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I Ate Too Much Borscht | A Comedy Podcast
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We're back! After a holiday break in which there was much yuletide cheer and a successful stint as a mall Santa by John, despite there being no malls anymore, we're back in action. John leads the first episode of 2024 on the topic of Nikola Tesla. An inventor, pioneer, and borscht fan (probably) Tesla changed the world as much as anyone ever has. We're here to talk about. Plus, Greg is on location from his bathroom. https://linktr.ee/historydefeatsitself
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Introduction and Banter
00:00:00
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Would you say that you have that entrepreneurial spirit? Hell yeah, I do. My little thing is not going up at all. Let me show you some pictures.
00:00:13
Speaker
I mean, it's not, uh, does this help guys? We just talked about the pills in the spray. I don't understand why you think this is funny. My little thing's not going up and down either, but I don't go. Fuck. My little, the little wavy things, my recording, both of yours are. I see them both. Okay. On my end. It's the important thing. Apparently Greg's is bigger than yours. Yeah, it is. Well, yours is the biggest of all, which is, which is standard. Yeah. I make sure that happens.
00:00:46
Speaker
History defeats itself as a comedy podcast. Kevin, John, and Greg are not experts, historians, or even all that smart.
00:01:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to History Defeats Itself. My name is Kevin Rosenquist. Thank you for being here. Thank you for allowing us to take the little time off. We just took a little break for the holidays and we're back and we're very, very excited. When I say we, I am of course talking about my two hosts, two men who I hope makes their New Year's resolution to be nicer to me, John Banks and Greg Mitchell. Gentlemen, how are you? My New Year's resolution is about legs. 2024, the year of my legs.
00:01:30
Speaker
Meaning like, are you going to just start shaving them or are you going to work out? Just so you can do squats all the time and definitely not going to be nicer to you because apparently doing squats raises your testosterone and makes you have low T. Well, that's that's why people don't do it. Don't do a leg day because it just makes them angry. Yeah. Well, I'm going to direct all that anger towards you. Oh, OK. That's the opposite of what I was hoping for. Well, Craig, coming to us live on location from his bathroom. How are you doing?
00:01:56
Speaker
I'm doing very well and you know, you're setting yourself up for me to mean you already. Greg, Greg, can you tell us what, what is it you're seeing right now? Right now I'm seeing a floater.
00:02:09
Speaker
And, uh, I'm actually not sitting on the toilet. This would be a weird spot for the toilet if it's like, where do you have it? I'm sitting on a chair, but I mean, but do you have a desk in there? I do have a little, uh, it's my wife's makeup mirror. Little built in table and.
00:02:29
Speaker
Yeah. Since you, since you had house guests, have you checked for any top shelf action there in the old toilet? Oh, that's no, I have not done that. And I probably should do that. They call it the upper deck upper deck. Yeah. If I do find one, I will randomly select one of the two of you to send it to.
00:02:47
Speaker
How will you randomly select? It's Kevin. Will you put our names into a hat or it's going to Kevin? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's not. I'm going to figure it out. Are you going to? Is that a picture or are you actually going to melt the turd? I'm going to mail the turd. That's who wants a picture of a turd. That's that disgusting. Is that considered terrorism like domestic terrorism? No, no, no, no. It's not fucking. It's it's not going to explode. Hopefully.
00:03:14
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's just a lovely little post-Christmas gift. Oh, that's very nice. That's very nice. Well, it's good to see you guys. Happy New Year to you both. Happy New Year. Do you have any New Year's resolutions? Like real ones besides leg day or no?
00:03:30
Speaker
I, I'm, I'm going to just resolve that I'm not really going to do anything in life. So it's not really a resolution. I'm just really resolved to that. Well, I mean, no, I've been fighting it. And would that be dissolution? It's just, I think I'm getting real in 2024. Okay. I'm not, I'm not. So you're saying that you have been lying to yourself for all these years, telling yourself that you're going to be successful because the beard doesn't say that's what you've been thinking.
00:03:58
Speaker
Wait, are you implying that I gave up with the beard? That's what I figured. Listen, guys, I know that you think this is funny, but we have a very limited audience and half those people are bearded people. So you have them have beards that look like yours. And the other half are bearded clams.
00:04:19
Speaker
That's what is that, Greg? Yeah. Can you tell us what that is? I think if you go take a little spin on the old Google machine, find out really box. How about you, Kevin? Do you have a, do you have a resolution? No, I don't think, uh, I don't think I do have a resolution. I didn't get to answer mine. Both of us. Okay. Fine. I actually have an answer.
00:04:42
Speaker
Please then, enlighten us. We're waiting. Okay, well, I'm gonna try to, it's gonna sound lame, but I'm gonna try and exercise five days a week. You exercise a decent amount, don't you? Yeah, I kinda do that, and I wanna keep that going. I wanna keep the momentum going. Makes me feel better. You know, makes me like myself a little bit more. I would like to change mine, if I can. Is it too late? Nope, no, no, not at all.
00:05:08
Speaker
I am going to at least five times a week ask Greg if he's worked out that day. That's going to be while eating in the griddle. Yeah. Well, no, there's not a McDonald's in walking the system. So I don't know. You got to buy in advance. Yeah, you'll save money that way if you buy in bulk.
00:05:28
Speaker
10 McGriddles, please. Can you not cook them? They come frozen. They're all frozen, right? So can you just give me four to five frozen McGriddles per week? I think they were created, cooked. Like there's no way to make a McGriddle raw.
00:05:46
Speaker
True. I don't think anything at McDonald's, I don't think you can consume anything at McDonald's that's raw. Okay, do you know what I want in my life? I want a sausage drawer like they have at McDonald's, right? Because they basically, they get this drawer where they just like, they have a whole bunch of sausages in there and it's just heated up. So you just pull it out and you're just like, you know what, you know what, I'd like, you know what would make me feel good right now? A sausage. Okay. You better, you better fucking not get behind on your consumption though, because that's going to get stinky fast. It is going to get stinky, yeah.
00:06:13
Speaker
I'm gonna just like after four weeks of having my sausage drawer. I'm gonna have a massive coronary So is it all breakfast sausage or is there gonna be other kinds of sausage? It's just breakfast. It's just the patties. They just have like a drawer full of patties. Oh Did I have a syrup drawer? No, I think they have bottles I do like dipping sausages in syrup. That's delicious. Oh man. Yeah
00:06:37
Speaker
It's the best way to get them in you. All right. What is it? What are you going to do? Feels good. Feels good to be back,
Who was Nikola Tesla?
00:06:46
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guys. John, it's your turn. Wait. No, no, no. Did you say what you were going to do? My resolution. Well, as we talked about earlier, I have left the day job. So I am. I think my New Year's resolution is to not end up homeless on the street now.
00:07:03
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I would also could also recommend maybe some sort of tanning of some sort. It's not healthy, John. I mean, as long as I'm alive, Sheena and Elwood will always have a place to live. Just want to make that clear. It's nice of you, Greg. Appreciate that.
00:07:23
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As long as I'm alive for the next four weeks with my sausage drawer. That's true. Sausage drawers not helping you at all. January 31st, 2024, they got a place. They're welcome here. Someone's going to come bust down your door, you know, trying to trying to save you and you're just going to have so much just sausage embedded in your beard. Well, I just I think in my arteries is a problem. I think the beard is not bad. It's not osmosis, Kevin. You have to ingest.
00:07:53
Speaker
Okay. So you guys ready for the first episode of 2024? The first episode of the rest of our lives. That's right. So today we're going to talk about a man.
00:08:07
Speaker
I don't know why it's it's Greg. It's Greg's favorite person in the world. It's Daniel Boone. Oh, my God. How did you know? I'm a genius. That's who my favorite person is. Yeah, I thought it was Tesla. Is it not Tesla? Because that's what I'm doing it on. Can you switch it to Daniel Boone real quick? Hold on one second. Chad GPT. Tell me about Daniel Boone. Give me 30, 30 things, Daniel Boone, that I could put in the podcast and the lyrics to that song. Daniel Boone. Yeah.
00:08:37
Speaker
There's a song called Daniel Boone. Yeah. There's Daniel Boone was man was a big, you don't know that song. No.
00:08:46
Speaker
I did not make it up. I like how it started out with Daniel Boone was a man. Real, real man. No big man. So do you guys, do you guys know who Nicholas Tesla is? I do. Yes. Do you know anything about him? Don't you remember when I did my episode on him? Did you do an episode on him?
00:09:09
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Yes. Well, guess what? What? We're doing another one. Are we doing it on him or something specific? Well, we're doing it kind of on him. It's it's him. We're doing it. OK, that's another biographical one. Did you use my episode? Did you use my episode as like your source? Did you really do it already? Yeah. No, no, he didn't. Shut up, Kevin.
00:09:32
Speaker
We've gotten so deep into these episodes that it's impossible to know what we've done and what we have. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. These are dogs, and I knew you'd already done dogs, so... And God knows, I've already done taxes. And roundabouts. And roundabouts. I mean, taxes could be another nine episodes, but that's for a more intelligent audience and also a more intelligent presenter.
00:09:53
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So, too shy. Not the podcast for us. All right, so this guy was born on July 10th, 1856 in Smiljan, which was inside the Austrian Empire, which would be modern-day Croatia. Greg is really looking for that song. I found it. It was from a TV show. Hold on a second. I mean, you said you found it and still just waiting, still boring.
00:10:33
Speaker
Okay, this was a TV show? Yeah. Alright.
00:10:39
Speaker
Thank god I found it. Otherwise, I would have thought that I had a brain hemorrhage. Okay. It could still be happening. I'm ready. We're doing Tesla again. Let's not rule that one out. We're talking about Elon Musk. Well, funny you should mention him.
00:10:57
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because we're gonna kinda get to him. I figured we might. Yeah. Why? How's it related? They both were rich. Actually, Tesla was not a very wealthy guy. He can never seem to get it off the ground, his inventions. So he studied electrical engineering. Spoiler alert. I'm sorry, I mean, I don't wanna ruin it for anybody. Maybe he was rich, maybe he wasn't. Who knows? I know he wasn't.
00:11:24
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Didn't Musk get something off the ground and go into space? He did. He did get a little... Was it the roaster? And he also launched a Tesla into space. No, I know. It was a roaster, right? Or was it the... It was a convertible Tesla. And it was the S. Have they been coming back yet? I thought they kept blowing up.
00:11:41
Speaker
Did you blow up every once in a while? Wait, the Tesla or the rockets? The one that's in space blew up? No, the space exit. They launched one in space and that thing's gonna be orbiting, is it orbiting us or it's orbiting a, or it's in the, I don't know. I don't know, man, I'm not there. But I don't pay attention unless it's happening in this bathroom. Here's the thing though, right? You're like, hey, I could do $10 million and I could launch a car into space or I could feed some people. I'm gonna launch this car into space. Yeah.
00:12:12
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I'm going to launch this car into space and spread anti-Semitic hate. Hey Kanye. You ready for gay Kanye? You want to hang out? Yeah. Does he though? Does he? I mean, he went to Israel. Let's not be there. Does he spread hate?
00:12:33
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Uh, he does. Oh, okay. Again, unequivocally on his own platform, which he is destroying. Really thought you guys were going to have something funny there. Just bringing the sad truth. Um, he studied electrical engineer. I wonder if my toilet reclines. I gotta get comfy. Why don't they make toilets recline?
00:12:59
Speaker
Because you're not supposed to stay in a thing an hour. Do you guys have a bidet? Do you want to see it? Yeah. No, I don't want to see it. I was just curious. Can I tell you about Japan? Can I tell you about how awesome that was? So in Japan, they have they have a bidet.
00:13:15
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Like in a lot of the bathrooms, they have bidets, but then they have heated seats, they have like these noises you can make so people can't hear you pooping. It's like the best, and it's like white noise. It is the, what's what happened to the good old fashioned cough? And they're long too.
00:13:45
Speaker
Bathroom noises are so funny. The airport, it's the worst. Apparently travel gives everyone diarrhea. The bathroom at an airport smells so atrocious, no matter what time you go in there. I feel like they should sell things in those bathrooms that you can bite down on when you shit, because that's how bad it is.
00:14:10
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There's like an attendant, he's like, do you want some kalo? Maybe a leather belt. That's how I ruined my last passport. How am I going to get back from Russia? I just chewed through my passport. Fuck, I got to go through. Why did I decide to go to Russia? It's a terrible idea right now. I've got to find Edward Snode. He can make me a Snode. I ate too much borscht.
00:14:41
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You know that fucks you up. I'm sure it does. You panic? You're like, oh, I'm dying. I'm literally dying. Oh wait, I had borscht for three weeks straight. And then I did a 15 hour flight. Made everybody happy.
00:15:01
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Delta. You're completely destroy an airport bathroom. And then on your way out, you run into the janitor that's coming in and you're like, sorry. Just give him a 20.
00:15:19
Speaker
Those guys all have the same look on their faces. My life sucks. I really should have learned algebra and school. All right. He's in my country. I'm a gynecologist. Here I clean your shit.
00:15:43
Speaker
Oh, all right. Uh, electrical engineering at the technical university of Graz at the university of Prague and the university of Prague. Um, he moved to the United States in 1884 when he was 28 years old. He had a tough time getting through the airport. Well, he just came over on a ship. So they were shitting the whole way. Everybody had dysentery and a few people got scurvy because people still got scurvy back then.
00:16:12
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Yeah, that's not fun. Citrus baby, citrus. You got scurvy? What are the symptoms of scurvy? Do you guys have you know? You get a peg leg and a patch over your eye and a parrot. And this parrot won't leave you alone. It just sits on your shoulder. And those fucking feet live forever. Hey, you got scurvy.
00:16:31
Speaker
Right, you got scurvy. Actually, I don't know what the symptoms of scurvy are. I know what causes it. Kevin Depression was spot on. That's going to be his new gig. He's going to do parrot voiceover. I'm going to be the parrot in every animated movie from here on out.
00:16:51
Speaker
It's a nice gig. I'm up into whatever right now. That is a good one. When he was 28 years old and he worked initially with Thomas Edison and he diverged from Edison due to differences in views on electrical engineering. Would you like to know what the historical beef between those two were? Thank you. I kind of know what it is. Because if you don't, then this is going to be kind of ACDC, right? Is this an order episode? Yes. Yes. It is.
00:17:21
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It's ACDC and one of them killed the fucking elephant. Thomas Edison. One of them was a back in black fan. The other one more hell's bells. Is that what you're saying? Highway to hell. Yeah, that's what he called his trips to the bathroom.
00:17:38
Speaker
Oh, Thomas Edison and Nicholas Tessa, they were a war of the currents. In late 19th century, competition between Edison direct current DC system and Tesla's alternating current AC system for electrical power distribution was the battle. Not to be confused with ongoing debate of which lead singer for ACDC was better, Bon Scott or Brian Johnson. And everyone knows it's Bon Scott. It's Ben Scott, yeah.
00:18:04
Speaker
What is the difference? What is, what is the difference between AC and DC and technical terms? So in technical terms, direct current, I actually know this. I do know this. So a direct current is, it goes from an electrical source to the outlet or whatever device it's powering. And there's no, it goes from one source directly. So it's a direct current. The problem with that is any surge or anything that happens from the power source is going to transfer to whatever is receiving the energy, which is why you have blowouts and stuff alternating current.
00:18:35
Speaker
goes back and forth. So it actually, by, by constantly going back and forth, you don't get the surges that you would in a direct current. And it also, and I don't know the reason for this, but it also makes it easier and cheaper, uh, to transfer energy over power lines. But I don't know. I don't know why. So would you say direct, direct current is more dangerous if you're in the bathroom and you're playing catch with a toaster. That's what I mean. If you're just standing in the bathroom, I think you're fine.
00:19:02
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Well, I think, yeah, it depends. It depends if you have a breaker in your house or not. If you have a breaker in your house. And if you're currently in the tub. Yeah. Right. This is what I'm saying. If you're in the bath and you don't have an outer body made of adamantium. So I know that actually that would kill you still. What? What is that? That's to make that up. It's a marble metal.
00:19:25
Speaker
Oh, is that like the Wolverine thing? Yes. Oh, yeah. That's how he heals himself, right? Well, he done his healing. No, no, his claws are made of that metal, are coated in that metal. Oh, okay. Yeah. Is it, I mean, is it really? So what about you, Greg? Nevermind. Greg, what do you fall, Bond Scott or Brian Johnson?
00:19:47
Speaker
Bonskott, obviously Bonskott for sure. But you give Brian Johnson lots of props because he does a really good job and coming into that gig was not easy. No. And I mean, he does better than I can do so. Yes, that's true. Wasn't quite the David Lee Roth, Sammy Hagar situation. What do you like? Do you like Sammy Hagar better? I mean, I can't always go with the original. Mm hmm.
00:20:12
Speaker
I mean, Van Halen was not that great. Yeah, I mean, I feel like Van Halen sucks with whoever was singing for Van Halen. Yeah, they weren't. They had some, you know, people really like them. I mean, they made a lot of money and I had a 1984 poster on my wall. Yeah, I loved the song Jump when I was a kid. McDonald's made a lot of money, but it doesn't mean it's cool or good.
00:20:32
Speaker
You eat at McDonald's like four times a week. I didn't say it was good. He hates himself, remember? I thank you. That's right. I keep forgetting. Right. You know, I feel seen by you, Greg. I mean, for all of our flaws in our relationship, I definitely think you know who I am and you hate me for who I am. So I do appreciate that. I actually love you, John. Oh, I know. I know. And I like your beard too.
00:20:54
Speaker
Do you? Yes. So Edison, to discredit AC current, engaged in a public relations campaign highlighting the dangers of high voltage, AC, even electrocuting animals and public demonstrations to emphasize its potential dangers.
00:21:11
Speaker
Like the elephant. Well, right. He actually, he electrocuted an elephant, um, with AC. Uh, and he also really pushed the electric, he really pushed for the electric chair to be, to use AC current because he wanted people to associate AC current with death. Do you remember in the green mile when that motherfucking guard didn't dip the sponge in water?
00:21:35
Speaker
That's I do kind of remember that. Yeah. Yeah. He was the real asshole. And that's what and, you know, like the prisoner that got elected, went through like a hellacious amount of pain. Yeah.
00:21:47
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It's a good movie. I think that prison guard was Thomas Edison. So did Thomas Edison like legitimately dislike AC, the AC idea or was he just pissed because he wanted his idea? He just wanted his idea. He was like, you know, I think that's the thing about like, you know, Thomas Edison was a business.
00:22:06
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He was an inventor, but also he took other people's inventions. I'm not slamming him. I don't have any skin in this game of Edison and Tesla. I know there's some people who are very dogmatic about it. I am not. I think he was far more of a businessman than anything else. He wanted his DC current to win over Marvel.
00:22:36
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would you say Marvel I said over Marvel yeah over over Wolverine yes yes exactly exactly
00:22:46
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So wait. Oh, right. So despite Edison's efforts, Tesla's AC system eventually triumphed, becoming the standard for electrical power distribution as we know it today. So and Tesla's inventions, including the AC motor and transform and demonstrated the practical advantages of AC over DC. And he invented the induction motor transformer, crucial elements of AC power systems. So and he also he created this fucking like a.
00:23:14
Speaker
A bladeless turbine, which is far more efficient, apparently on smaller scale things where you need a turbine, larger scale things you want the blades. So if you guys are going to do any turbine and is it like that, that English inventor, that Dyson guy or whatever his name is, and he had came up with that fan that didn't have a blade in it. I don't know. Sounds like the same thing. Maybe he's using Tesla technology, maybe.
00:23:52
Speaker
There. That's all I've got. It works. You know, Dyson, they have a hairdryer and that thing is fucking incredible. Like I don't own it. We could buy my hairdryer or my hairdresser. She has it and she's and it is so incredible. It never loses suction. Well, no, it uses corners really well. No, it uses fire. It actually uses fire. So it dries your hair so fast. I have one of those Dyson vacuums.
00:24:07
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Kevin has nothing.
00:24:18
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Like, the handheld, whatever, for wooden floors or whatever. The thing kicks fucking ass, dude. Yeah, it is pretty amazing. Pretty amazing. Dyson, the choice of history defeats itself. Visit Dyson.com or your local retailer. Grab yourself a McGriddle and get to vacuuming.
00:24:34
Speaker
That's what we called it. Fuck you Kenmore. Kenmore still make vacuums. I was going to say is that where you went with the secondary vacuum? I'm coming up for another vacuum and I couldn't do it. We have the shark. We have a shark. Fuck you shark. Yeah, there you go. Hoover, right? Hoover. Oh yeah. In Great Britain, they don't even say vacuum. They say Hoover. Yeah, they do. It's our coke here. Or Band-Aid.
00:25:00
Speaker
Oh man, have you guys seen Narcos? Which one? I saw the first one, I think. So do you remember that they were like, they were, they, and I look at Escobar, right? Yeah, but they, they, they liquefied, they were trying to like, they had, they had scientists come in from Finland or something and they were like liquefying cocaine to transport it or to import it, smuggle it in.
00:25:20
Speaker
But they also, one of the things they did just for the shits and giggles of it, they put it back in Coca-Cola. They would smuggle in cocaine in Coca-Cola.
00:25:33
Speaker
Isn't that crazy bitches? I thought it was somehow going to be related to vacuums, but it's not. And that would have been full circle. It's a little disappointing. I mean, I guess your nose is a vacuum for cocaine. If you're an addict, is that, I don't know. Okay. You hovered up that cocaine that ties in. Thank you. I like things to have a pretty little bow on them. Um,
00:25:54
Speaker
Let's see. Oh, right. See, also, he he did this thing where he invented the it was called the Wardenclyffe Tower. And basically what he wanted to do was he wanted Edison or Tesla, Tesla, Tesla. Yeah, sorry. We just that was like they had like an ongoing thing.
00:26:14
Speaker
for years, but they were they were more like they weren't like mortal enemies or anything. They were just they it was like Elon Musk and what's his face? Who runs Meta? What's that guy? Zucks. Yeah, Zuckerberg. Right. So like like Edison and Tesla, they were going to have an MMA fight. But then somebody was going to say that they ever have a cage. They were going to. Yeah. But that time, you know, they just boxed with their, you know, in their leather shoes.
00:26:38
Speaker
I don't know. And they're sleep shirts. Yeah. And they said things like how I said good day. Here's my calling card. Now, let's box. But Tesla, both of you rascal, he came up with this thing called the rapscallion. Sorry. I don't keep going. I'm done. I'm out of them. Are you? Are you having insults? I'll come up with another one.
00:27:08
Speaker
I said good day. I'm trying. I can't think of any right now. God, Kevin's useless today. I'm totally useless. No, I can't think of an old timey insult. I kept thinking about the duels, but I don't know. Sir, you put your peanut butter in my chocolate.
00:27:26
Speaker
My chocolate's in your peanut butter. Wait, are we having sex? That's quite a confectioner. Confectioner, you delight. My senses are aroused. I think it's time that we undo those bloomers. Have a peek under the night shirt. Oh my goodness, I saw your ankle and I just my pants.
00:27:55
Speaker
I can't wait to see the rest of the rest of you in about 45 minutes. This could take me a while to get all these layers off. I have an idea about pronouns and and tops and bottoms. All right. So it's confusing back then is what I'm saying. It really was. Yeah. It was hard to know if you're going to fight somebody or fuck somebody.
00:28:24
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You wanted to find line back in the day, man.
00:28:26
Speaker
You're sending me mixed signals. Have you ever watched the British parliament when they like fucking fight? I think I've asked this before. It is the, like you have to Google it and watch that shit if you've never seen it. Like modern day or old times? No, no, no. Modern modern day. Because they're so educated, right? They're not like our politicians here. Like they're so educated and their, and their grammar is so incredible. And they just like, they're, they're just so classy about the way they insult each other. It's so fascinating and it's hilarious actually.
00:28:55
Speaker
And they're wearing powder wigs. It's not like Gates and Marjorie Taylor Greene. No. Not the same approach. No. Oh, man. So Tesla.
What was Tesla's vision for wireless electricity?
00:29:10
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Tesla. He had this theory about this thing called the Wardenclyffe Tower, which was basically a way to transmit electricity through the air. Right. And he started to build it. But the thing about Tesla is he had these successful inventions, but he also
00:29:26
Speaker
would come up with shit like this because he did believe that electricity should be free, or if not free, at least very affordable to the public. He believed that electricity was going to be the thing that saved the world. He invented this thing called the Wardenclyffe Tower and they actually started to build it, but the idea was that it would, through radio waves,
00:29:47
Speaker
because he was in what he also figured out radio waves or he kind of figured out how to capture them. But and he was the lead singer of Radiohead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of people don't know that, you know, there's that there's that conspiracy that Morgan Freeman was actually shit. What is that thing? There's like he was actually who was that? There was a really vanilla. No, no, no. From from like he. No, no, no. He's like he's known for the guitar. Black guy who's like kills on the guitar.
00:30:16
Speaker
Jimmy pay, uh, Jimmy, uh, Jim, Jimi Hendrix. Yeah. So there's this theory, like, no, there's this theory online, this conspiracy online where it's like pictures of Jimi Hendrix and then next to pictures of Morgan Freeman. And it's like Morgan, like he died or he faked his own death and became Morgan Freeman. So I've never heard that one before. That's awesome. And if you actually look at the picture, like some pictures of Jimi Hendrix and, um, Morgan Freeman, you know, you could, you could be like, Oh, wow. I could see how that would like.
00:30:45
Speaker
Like they do. They got there. Yeah, they do look similar. So. Interesting. Why would Jimi Hendrix fake his own death? He was Jimi Hendrix to be Morgan Freeman. Yeah, it's fine. But he's like, you know what I want to really do? I want to be the voice of God.
00:31:01
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All along the watch narrator ever. All along the watch. He also explored high frequency and high voltage phenomena, contributed to the development of X-ray radio waves and radar technology. And his personal traits, he's known for eccentricity and reclusive lifestyle. And he actually had this thing where he... One of his personality traits was electricity.
00:31:30
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No, no. Incentricities. Incentricities? No, eccentricism. He was eccentric. He was incentric? Yeah. He could read your thoughts.
00:31:54
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He was in sync. So he had this thing where he believed that in his later life, he believed that he had a connection with pigeons. And there was particularly a white pigeon that visited him in the early 20th century while he was living in New York City. And he believed this pigeon had a special significance.
00:32:15
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Tesla signed some blog meaning to the pigeons and claim that the white pigeon was a messenger of inspiration and enlightenment. He even said that the bird had come to tell him that he had finished his life's work. And he's like, Tesla, let's go, bro. So he's told him that.
00:32:30
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that tesla finished his life's work without the pigeon himself finished his life's work no no the pigeon the pigeon came yes the pigeon came to tesla and tesla said dude you're good you've done you've done it you've done it you've done it all yeah yeah you're a pigeon what more can you do you don't have some what is it with people in pigeons like pigeons are disgusting like mike tyson
00:32:50
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He was a big pigeon guy. He's a pitching guy? I thought you were implying that Mike Tyson was disgusting. Two things, one, that's not true, and two, Greg, he could beat you up really bad. Real bad. He can, but he loved pigeons. It's such a weird thing to me. I guess living in a city, I don't know how the pigeon population of LA is, but in Chicago, they were just, oh, disgusting.
00:33:15
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Shitting everywhere there was a when when Greg and I used to work in the same building in the same place there was we had all these pigeons who would come and like shit on all the wood and they would like get up in the Like rafters of these buildings and anyway, but so they this hawk There was like a hawk that started coming around and man that thing was it was very it was quite gruesome what that hawk would do to those pigeons and
00:33:37
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Like, if those other pigeons were watching, I don't know why they hung around. Like, if I saw somebody- Not good learners. No, if I saw somebody do that to Greg, I'd get the fuck out. I'd be like, hey. Like, whatever we did to make you mad, I'm sorry. I'm out. Can I please take my friend's head and legs away from here because you destroyed his torso.
00:34:00
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John's right. It was pretty graphic. Yeah, it was crazy. Like they were that those fucking things would destroy them. So, yeah. That hawk was a sick fuck. I see. He even. Yeah, he also he also claimed to receive some. Like pigeons have like wet naps. Like, how do they clean the blood off all their shit? Wait, why don't pigeons get blood on their shit?
00:34:31
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on themselves, like when they're tearing, ripping apart animals and they're eating them. Pigeons? Or not the pigeons, the hawk. The hawk shouldn't have a wet nap or something. It just flies through a car wash. Oh, makes sense. Yeah. I think I've seen that video. You guys are stupid. Sparrows clean the hawk. You guys, it's like you never watched a Disney movie.
00:34:54
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I don't remember that Disney had to wear a Disney movie where the Sparrow presumably licked blood off of a hawk. I don't. They want Jesus. What's wrong with you is they just washed him off. They wash the blood off with like a like a rag. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, like little buckets, little tiny buckets, little squeegee. It was like a car wash only. It was just sparrows. Yeah. They use they use like the tops of acorns for helmets for OSHA.
00:35:24
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That's a lot better than the racist crows. Oh my God. So this morning I left Courtney's house and I was driving home and there was a coyote at, sorry. It was like, yeah, it's a stop sign. And there was a coyote inward. What?
00:35:40
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We were talking about racism. No, I know, I know, but he said crows. He said crows. I saw the most racist coyote ever. So then there's this, well, maybe because there was a coyote and it was like, it was, you know, how dogs get in that like track position, right? It was kind of squatted down. Like it was really focused in and I look at the stop sign, I look to the left and there's a crow and it's literally like they're having a standoff.
00:36:03
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And I was just like, like, and then I was, I wonder, like, do coyotes did a lot of crows? Because crows are supposed to be pretty fucking smart and pretty vicious. So, like, I was, I was wondering, like, I wonder if, like, the crow is somehow trying to trap the coyote, but I don't know for what purpose to weaponize it, train it and send it back into the coyotes to kill them. He was so tired of that coyote fucking with him. He's like, I'm standing up to this bully once and for all. Did you? I was going to be so proud. Did you not stick around to find out what happened?
00:36:32
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No, I had to get I had to get going. I had shit I had to do. Where did you have to go? I got I'm just getting out of here. How could you go? I have time to see this. You didn't have to go anywhere. You have to leave Courtney's house. I did. Well, no, that's not true. I did say we put together a puzzle for for Christmas. Oh, my God. Me that. Yeah. Yeah. That's fascinating. That's boring as fuck. I mean, what did you do? Get drunk again?
00:37:03
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which I was going to say which day, but either any day. Well, Christmas day is the one we're talking about a particular Christmas day. Yeah. Was that yesterday? Yeah. That was dude. I was up. I was up. Sheena and I were up till one in the morning putting together this play kitchen thing on Christmas Eve. So yesterday I was pretty tired. Was he, was he stoked? I loved it. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. No, it was a lot of fun. It was fun. Were there any Dyson products in his kitchen? No, but it's, but she and I joke, we're like, this is nicer than ours.
00:37:34
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It was a nice one. It's like wood. You guys should have Mattel come in and remodel your kitchen. Hey, listen, if they could do it like that, there's like a backsplash and everything. It's very nice.
00:37:46
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Let's see. Oh, wait. Pigeons. Right. Okay. So we talked about that. We talked about that. So some, some other things. So Tesla invented the Tesla coil. And that was basically that it has to do with transformers circuit. So it's a coil that basically again, allows you to have power in your house.
00:38:06
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Oh, nice. So, um... Is it solar panel based? No, it wasn't. It's very, uh... His name. He was definitely in on the power situation. He liked the power situation. He did, yeah. That was his whole thing. There was like a...
00:38:21
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Yeah. And then there's like, oh, there's like weird little, and there's like all this like folklore around him. Tesla. Dude, you're the one who's presenting. I know. I mean, there was, there was, there was that I had that a couple of weeks ago, there was some stuff. I had a defense. We were going to have an episode, ended up canceling it and taking a break. And then, uh, uh, he lost his notes.
00:38:47
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About 30 minutes ago. His dog ate his notes. His dog ate his homework. Nope, nope. I just didn't fucking hit save, man. That's why you got to do Google Docs, man. It saves it automatically. That's because it's a very new concept. You used to have to hit save, but just recently I think they came out with that, right? That you have to hit save? Yeah. Well, yeah, for me, seeing that I used to type things up until six months ago.
00:39:11
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You don't have to fucking save typed paper, Greg. So jokes on you. I know you're trying to be mean. You typed your episode? A typewriter? I did. And I would read out loud as I typed. I'm like, ah, look at this. Greg, you still write yours down, don't you?
00:39:30
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Not by hand. Oh, okay. But you always have notes. I print them out because it's the way I present the topic. When I was only using one screen, I didn't want it on my screen. I wanted to be able to see you guys. Naturally. Now I use two screens. Two screen really is the key. Kevin has seven screens. I have three screens. There you go. Did you do both screens in the pooper or are you just doing one?
00:39:59
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Well, I got to knock down some walls. Make room. Please do. I will get my hard head on. So X-ray technology, Tesla's research on X-rays and their production contributed to the development of X-ray technology used in medical imagining in various scientific applications.
00:40:22
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Imaging or imagining? Let's get with the one you said. Okay, not what I said. He said them both. Did I? Man, listen, it makes sense. It totally makes sense. Our listeners aren't smart anyway. No, I know. No, they're not. No, no. If they were, they would be smart enough to listen to a better podcast. Whoa.
00:40:49
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There's no better podcast. We teach things and learn stuff. Listen, I was joking. We're the best podcast out there. And our listeners are the best listeners out there. Fuck you, Rogan. Yeah. He's a real fucking asshole lately. And Huberman Lab. Is that a new thing, Greg? I'm pretty sure he's been an asshole the whole time. He's been extra asshole lately. Do you listen to him? No. I just fucking always see him on social media putting his fucking big ass foot in his bald mouth.
00:41:14
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Yeah, he does that often. I don't think his mouth is bald. Yes, it is, John. He shaves it. I mean, I guess, is your mouth bald? No. I gotta hurry him up. Do you have balls in your mouth? I got mouth pubes. Go ahead, Kevin. Kevin's raising his hand. I didn't mean to do that. It was an accident. I hit the I have something to say button.
00:41:36
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No, Joe Rogan every single day when I look at this podcast newsletter is number one on Spotify. So he's doing something right.
00:41:48
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Have you ever listened to his podcast or? I tried one. I tried one time. I listened to one where Josh Homie from Queens of the Stone Age was on there and it was really boring and I really like Queens of the Stone Age and it was just so bored. They were just like they were just shooting the shit and I was I mean, his part, they're like four hours long, too. I didn't. I think they're like three or three or four hours. I listened to I listened to like probably for like half an hour, 40 minutes of it. And I was just like, man, this isn't for me.
00:42:15
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But I've never actually heard live any of his weirdo controversial stuff that he's done. I haven't either. I mean, I've listened to it, but but yeah, but like I usually like like I'll pick somebody that I like and then I'll listen to it. Like I don't know. I don't listen to like when it comes to those types of podcasts. I don't listen to like a podcast. I'm just like, oh, like Brian Cox is like you like to guest. And then I like that guy. So then I listen to that episode. He's fine. Like he's a pretty good interview, actually. Yeah. I mean, obviously he's doing something right. Yeah. So he's also seems like kind of a prick.
00:42:45
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Uh, he seems that way. Yeah. I mean, yeah. But I don't know. Maybe he's a nice guy in the world. I really, I really don't know. No, he's not. Who would you say is the nicest guy in the world? My brother is the nicest guy in the world. Your brother is pretty nice, Greg. My brother does seem very nice. He is incredibly nice. Yeah. He's like a really good person. He does like really good things for the world. He's he's a nice guy. Healthy. All right. We're going to go. We're going to go with the great brother. All right. Darren, thank you. Yeah.
00:43:15
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All right. Gary's, Gary's the nicest guy in the world. There is no reason to go on. If that is what we've decided, that is, I feel like that's last call. Yeah. Okay. No, I'm kidding. We arrived. So he also did a fluorescent lighting or I guess, as I would say,
00:43:35
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That's not super handy. I mean, when it came to some sort of powder coating that made of fluorescent light, he knew what he was doing. So, you know, okay, go, go, Darren. I didn't, I didn't know this. There's some other things that Darren's done. Let's hear it. The remote control, just a pattern, remote control device and early concept watch TV.
00:43:56
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Yeah, that's how we watch TV without having to get up. What's the remote control that Tesla invented? It's an early concept that paved the way for the development of remote control technology used in numerous devices today.
How did Tesla influence modern technology?
00:44:12
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Did he come up with the one that had the Netflix button on it?
00:44:16
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I hate the ones with the buttons on them. I always accidentally hit them. I'm like, fuck. I think the way you want to think of it is Tesla came up with like he carved out a wooden wheel and then later somebody was like, oh, we can make this thing out of rubber. Right. So it's like he's he didn't make that TV remote, but he did. Hey, John, we know. I don't do you because sometimes you're. Yeah, we knew he didn't make the rubber tires. I thought you said the remotes. No.
00:44:44
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What are we talking about? He made an entire analogy. Jesus Christ, Kevin. He invented tires too? No. God damn it. He invented wood. No wonder you like him so much. Kevin's so fucking stupid. So here's an interesting question. Do you guys think cable television would exist without the remote control?
00:45:09
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I mean, 100, 200 channels. Right. Every time. Well, I know it had to come along eventually. It was going to. Yeah. I mean, it would have like pornography. It's when when you would watch girl on girl porn and they weren't roaming each other.
00:45:27
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And now it's like everywhere. It was going to happen eventually. That's that's your analogy. So it just speaking of Tesla. Yeah, I want to be clear. Tesla is the rimming of porn. Is that what I know? Yes, he's the he's the rimming of remotes.
00:45:47
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But no, I mean, I think it would have come along, but I don't think it would have been successful. Like somebody would have tried it, but then they'd be like, well, people aren't getting up to watch fucking like John. John, which which way do you want us to say it? I don't know. Why don't you tell us how our opinions should be now? No, I mean, yes. A remote would have come along no matter what, in my opinion. I agree with John. And you know what? Maybe maybe it would have taken longer for it to work.
00:46:09
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Yeah. And I also agree with Craig. It did take a little bit of time before Rimming became the norm in Porno. But now it is every single one. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you can't have a scene without Rimming. I know. It's even in Starbucks commercials now. You're like, I just want coffee. I saw it in a Hallmark Christmas movie.
00:46:30
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I just want to know how many ounces are in a venti. Timmy, Timmy, your dad saved Christmas. Now I'm going to go bring him in the bathroom. But who are you here? My mom.
00:46:48
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This episode is making me sick. That was your analogy. I know it was. You guys took it too far. We took it too far at the Hallmark reference. Apologize. Rim and Dad for Christmas.
00:47:01
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Better a Hallmark reference than a Holocaust reference. True. True. That's true. Robotics and automation. Robotics and automation. Man, you better seriously trust technology. So we're glossing over a lot of things because of our rim job jokes. But so so no, seriously, that's like as we are want to do as we typically will. But he was like a pioneer in robotics, too. I didn't know that.
00:47:31
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I saw a documentary about him a long time ago but I don't remember it. Was it that movie with Will Smith?
00:47:38
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Will Smith did a test robot. It was actually a PBS American, whatever documentary. It was very fascinating. My favorite part about I robot was the fact that Will Smith was the only one that thought something could go sideways with all these fucking evolving robots. I never saw I robot because I don't really like Will Smith. If you're going to reason like him, Will Smith is a very good actor. Before the whole slapping thing, like I just never really thought he was right. He's always that didn't make him a better actor. That's for sure.
00:48:07
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Sorry, I'm allowed to win awards for acting. Don't let John talk. Maybe maybe Will Smith really tapped into in that slap. He had tapped into something emotionally there. Now he's a much better actor, but I won't know because I won't. I won't be saying it couldn't. It couldn't hurt. No. Well, it could hurt Chris Rock, but it didn't. It couldn't hurt anything else. That's true. That was weird, man. And their relationship, Jada Pinkett and
00:48:29
Speaker
It's everywhere. It's in your face, and they're just stop and they're like are they still are they still polyamorous too aren't they polyamorous fuck them I'm so sick about her shit attention-seeking behavior
00:48:43
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Oh, he's trucking nerve here, Jon. Let's move on. No, let's drill down. Let's find out. What does Greg think about Will Smith and Jada Pinkett? Nobody gives a fuck about them. I agree. I don't give a shit about so many things. I don't understand how TMZ is a thing, because who the fuck cares? I mean, people obviously do. People do, though, man. People love the celebrity gossip shit. There's YouTube channels that have lots and lots and lots of views. A lot more than us. Like I said earlier in the show, if it's not happening in this bathroom, I don't really give a fuck.
00:49:15
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That's not true. I care about things. But you do a lot of stuff in there. That's where I do my best thinking. Yeah. And you're, and you're jerking off. Whoa. You don't know where I'm FaceTiming you. Then you have a pretty good idea. I'm just assuming.
00:49:33
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I'm assuming you're not leaving there anytime soon. I guess this is what I'm assuming. Every time we FaceTime, I put on a tropical background, so I thought you thought I was in the jungle. I don't know why you're assuming I was in the bathroom. I was actually on my bed because it's comfortable. I can only get off if there's a tree with coconuts.
00:49:52
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It's a childhood thing. I don't want to talk about it. So robotics and automation, Tesla's ideals and inventions, including remote controlled devices, contributed conceptually to the development of robotics and automation technologies.
00:50:07
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Again, I feel like Tesla was the guy like in every steampunk movies, like speaking a little bit like Wild Wild West, like in those movies when they had those steampunk robots. I feel like I feel like that's what Tesla would have like if you would have lived. I feel like that's where our society would be a steampunk society. If you would have lived like lived to be like an immortal, like forever. OK. Yeah, that's fair. Like then he couldn't live long enough to actually make the remote control with the Netflix button on it. Yeah, I could have.
00:50:37
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Son of a bitch. I wonder what this thinking would have been about Bitcoin. You think it would have been like a Bitcoin, bro? Like, no, no, you just don't understand it, man. It's all about the blockchain. You're like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's not money. It doesn't make sense. Pyramid scheme. It's like, no, no, but it's just like, there's all these people who commit to the pyramid scheme. So it's not a pyramid scheme. Got it. I've been alive hundreds of years and this is the voice I decided to evolve to.
00:51:07
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Tesla out. Tesla's vision of wireless communication and energy transmission has parallels in modern technology such as wireless telecommunications, Wi-Fi, and mobile charging technology. Did he create the Jetsons?
00:51:22
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Did what? Did he create the Jetsons? He did not. He did not. It is interesting, though, like, like that he was pretty forward thinking. I mean, he's he thought of a lot. He had ideas for things that really haven't been, I don't know, really in the forefront till recently.
00:51:40
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Yeah, like I mean, when you were when you were a kid, didn't you think about flying cars and, you know, yeah, but I mean, the robotics thing, I don't know. It seemed like he had he had thoughts that were pretty pretty ahead of its time. Oh, I thought it was just the robotic dance. Yeah, he pioneered the robot. Ain't nobody got no Mr. Roboto. Wayne Gretzky, Tesla, Michael Scott.
00:52:10
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Um, so then do you think, so, so the reason, so, okay. So now here's, I'm going to tie it all together. Oh, here we go. Here we go. This is, um, stretch it out. So I'm going to get another beer for this because, okay. So, so Tesla, so do you think that,
00:52:31
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First of all, like you're talking, so Tess, I think Tesla's like once in a generation kind of person. Right. So it's like, you know, there's so many people on the planet. Most people aren't going to do anything that's going to change the course of human history, but some people do. Right. And I think Tesla's one of those. And then he's like Connor McDavid. Yes, exactly. It's a generational NHL player. Yeah. Gotcha. Um, but do you think that's going to be better? Who's going to be better? But aren't, I mean, it'd be nice to see, but he's going to have to do a lot of things. Right.
00:53:03
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I feel like you guys are just making them names. We aren't. But how would I know? Are you literally doing that? How would I know? Because you're both liars. So so so what are you saying, John? So it would be so much better if you were wrapping up this episode with like a cork board and a bunch of push pins and some lines, red string going so connecting all the dots.
00:53:29
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I'll work on that for the next episode. So do you guys think Elon Musk is our generation's Tesla? No. I mean, why not? I don't, I mean, because he stood on the shoulders of giants, but, but kind of everybody stands on the shoulder. Right. I mean, I know. I just felt like saying that. I liked that. I liked that.
00:53:51
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I don't know that, like, it's quite the, uh, he's like, he's like, they're like, uh, sir, what would you like a Kim or refrigerator or, uh, or I don't, thank you or a Tyson. And he's like, they all stood on the shoulders of giants. He just walks away. It always applies. No, I think just, I think we got here, man. I just don't think that Elon is the, is the visionary that a guy like Tesla was. I think Elon is,
00:54:23
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you know, despite all of his questionable personality traits, um, the, the invention side of things, I mean, he, he does, he doesn't do as much on his own. Doesn't he take kind of take credit for a lot of stuff that he didn't really pioneer? Well, I think the car pretty much on his own. Well, no, he, he kind of think so. He didn't do that. But, but I will say he's, I think he's like Edison in that one. I think he's way more like Edison than like a Tesla.
00:54:49
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I keep thinking, anytime I've ever had, I've had one deep debate about Elon Musk with somebody and she will remain nameless, but she sometimes listens to the show, so she'll know who she is. But she kept focusing on Neuralink. She does know who she is. Is it Jeanine? That's true. But she focused a lot on Neuralink about the stuff that he's doing with brain science.
00:55:16
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And I get it. I get it. Like, but at the same time, what I'm just if he's if he's the guy leading the charge, don't you want the person leading the charge to also have good intentions and be a good person? And I just don't think Elon's a very good person. But OK, do you do you think that equates being a good person? Do you think that equates with doing something good for society? I think I think it helps with your intentions. Yeah.
00:55:43
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You know, I mean, I think that that if you're if you're if you're really super smart, but you're kind of a piece of shit, I don't think that's good. That's how I mean, that's how like, you know, you love your Marvel movies. Magneto is very smart. Not a great person. Well, if you knew his whole story, he was a good person at one time, but everybody gets things happen and they change. So how dare you bring him into this? He was in Nazi Auschwitz, buddy. Was he really? Yeah, that's part of his backstory, at least in the movies.
00:56:12
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Oh, I don't remember that from the comic, but I didn't start the comic from the beginning and I was very young. But I guess that's, that's my point is that as I don't, I just don't think that just being, just being innovative isn't, isn't necessarily, or just being someone who is, um,
00:56:29
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you know is is he's obviously smart and he's got he's got ideas but the problem is he's also got all these biases and these questionable uh ethics and strange outlooks on certain things like free speech yeah you never know what his angle is well his angle always seems to be
00:56:49
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kind of Elon to me. And, you know, like he always, he's kind of, you know, he wants to be able to say whatever he wants and do whatever he wants. And he made sure that his platform could, you know, he bought Twitter and then let all these people back on because he wanted to say what he wants and he ties it in free speech.
00:57:07
Speaker
I don't know. I'm just, I'm not a very big fan. Twitter is a cesspool now. Yes. Okay. So we're digressing. So, so my question is, you guys don't like Elon Musk. Got it. Um, but do you think, so not, not him personally.
00:57:23
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Right. But like, do you, do you, in other words, do you think that, cause Tesla did things that changed the course of a minute and whether that was through creativity and, you know, and Tesla was the only guy Edison did, sure. You know, Carnegie did, um, the Rockefeller, like he's the guy who worked with Cocksucker.
00:57:40
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I was going to say Ford, but he was, yeah, he was kind of addictive. Ford did too, right? Ford didn't have any new ideas in a car. His idea was in how to manufacture, right? Was to mass produce it. Yeah. But in other words, they were- To your point about the businessman aspect. Right. So not for the argument that they were good people.
00:58:01
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But do you think that—so when I say do you think Elon Musk is our Tesla or Edison or pick any—like any person, you know, do you think what he's doing now is gonna like change the course of our future? Which I think it will. Like I—I—I—I'm kinda with you. I'm not a fan of Elon, but I definitely think like the companies he has is gonna change the future.
00:58:19
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I guess I agree, but I think that someone who would be more influential in that way will be Sam Altman, the open AI, because I think that where they want to take things, they're moving so fast and it could go either way. He's moving awfully fast.
00:58:39
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The technology that they're developing is so advanced. It's it's it's you could you know, some people might say it's more advanced than what Elon's doing, but it's different. You know, like Elon started his own A.I. efforts, but it's very new. So I that's my personal opinion is that Sam Altman would be more that person or or or the other guy. There's another guy. I can't remember his name. He's less the face, but maybe he's more the tech guy. I'm not sure. But is it Greg Mitchell? Is it me?
00:59:12
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Greg, you're an AI genius. What do you think, Greg? Fuck yeah. Um, about Musk in particular.
00:59:20
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Well, yeah, right. I mean, I think he is going to have a lasting impact on our society in the future. I mean, he's made changes already that and he's so fucking rich. He's going to have an impact on the direction that is true. And he does control an entire social media company. Right. So that's how long, though. I mean, you got to imagine that's not going to be a social media company for much longer. Yeah, but he's already kind of made his impact.
00:59:44
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And you know, he's continuing to do shit. And I think by default, some of those companies are benefiting humanity. But yeah, these fucking guys, man, look at Bill Gates, you know, he's devoted his entire fucking life now to
01:00:01
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to his charity to philanthropy to philanthropy. Yeah. And it's like, okay, is that going to end up being a good thing? I hope so. He wants to get drinking water and food access to the entire world. And, you know, and there were people that said he was a piece of shit at one time. There's people who still do, there's still like all these, like he'll do things and people like there's, you know, there's whole conspiracies around him being like,
01:00:23
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this puppet master and you know, it's like, he's part of the world health organization. Wasn't he part of the vaccine? He was like, yeah, he was like trying to put chips in you. And there's like crazy fucking stuff around it when I think no matter who you are, if you have a huge following and you're that influential people, people are going to hate you. Right. Especially it seems like when you're a business slash tech mogul, I feel like you kind of, but I don't think it's the jobs or I don't think it's a small segment of the world. I think it's a much larger section of the world now who believe that kind of stuff than did 10 years ago.
01:00:53
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I do anyway, so I guess my question is so then the other question is so all those guys right so good and bad like you like them you don't like them you think they're philanthropists not philanthropists do you think that it is worth what we get from them in exchange for the loss of Control of our societies because once you know because what if you create something that's that big and you get so wealthy Like you guys are saying you have this influence now that you didn't have before
What are the parallels between AI fears and historical fears?
01:01:24
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That'll be for history to decide. I don't think we can kind of see where, like Kevin said, the AI is moving so fucking fast that we're not going to know. It's going to end up being the fucking end of all of us anyway. Right. Right. So I think it's probably on the face of it. It's bad. Everybody fucking seems to agree that AI eventually will be bad. I just want to have sex with a robot.
01:01:50
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crazy. I don't even want to have sex with a robot. I just want to rim a robot. That's right. That's what we call a callback, everybody. You brought up the Bitcoin thing, John, and I think it's interesting because the whole idea of the blockchain, even if it's very confusing and we don't need to go off on a tangent, but it is about decentralization. It is about
01:02:12
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about about having more personal control over things and not having to be reliant on, not reliant on a central bank or a government or, or, you know, whatever, whatever the Elon Musk's or Sam Altons of the world bring upon us, you know, I mean, obviously, there's certain things that you can't control, like, you know, if robots become sentient, murder us all like we can't really control that's happening for sure.
01:02:41
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It's a done deal. It's already in the tea leaves, man. It's already happening. What if they get sentient and just doxxus on social media? That's all they do. They just go on social media and they're just total assholes. Yeah, they're just trolls. Yeah, that's what AI is going to be. What if they become sentient and they're just really helpful and they're just like, hey, I got that, man. I'll clean up that dog poop. You go inside and watch football.
01:03:03
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I'm a machine. You, sir, are a human. You have a conscious. I am just here to do your bidding. Uh-huh. Yeah, man. I don't know. I think that, but it's, you know, if we go in that more direction of decentralization, I do think that we have some checks and balances against what you're talking about, John, as far as the power that we give people, because that's kind of what you're saying, like the power that they get from- Well, yeah, I'm going to sum up mine.
01:03:31
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I'm gonna sum up my thing in the last call. But yeah, I mean, I think it's like you can go broader and broader and broader, right? In other words, you can really start dissecting this whole thing and there's a thousand ways you can go, but I guess to just simplify it, right? So right, we cannot predict what these things are gonna have for the future, right?
01:03:50
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Right. We know that Rockefeller was a bastard, but he also was the one who figured out how to get oil from one place to another in a very fast way, which jumped, you know, which which is able to give us these things like cars and, you know, lights in our house and running water and all these things. Right. You know, because it's like the plot of there will be blood. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, right? It's a lot of people confused.
01:04:17
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It's like H.W. Plainville or whatever his name was. So we know that he's a bastard and we know that all of that energy is going to have a negative impact. So we're heating up our world, but also our lives are also simultaneously very amazing. So I don't know that I would trade the Industrial Revolution for still living in caves or using carriages.
01:04:43
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But at the time, people were scared of it. And I think it's kind of the same thing with with what we talked about in the Monsters episode that I did about how like where we always have a fear and fear. Our fear now is AI. Our fear. Our fear right now is technology taking taking over. And it's just because of what is happening around us. It could end up being that, you know, when
01:05:04
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You know, we're long gone that people are talking about the revolution as a as like a turning point for positive in a positive way. We don't we don't know. Yeah. Yeah. But I think as human beings, we were very good at imagining the absolute worst. We'd love to go that way. We totally go there immediately. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, here's how I know that we don't end up in that horrible scenario situation because a T 1000 has not come back in time to kill me. And we all know that I'm the John Connor of our generation. So, you know,
01:05:34
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Yeah. Greg, you're, you're laughing. Why are you? I don't think, I don't think so, John. I don't see you just because you share a first name. I don't, I don't think that you're the guy. I just don't think you're the guy. I'm going to legally change my name to John Connor just in case.
01:05:50
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I don't know, what does that prove exactly? Nothing. Shut up, Kevin. That's what it proves. All right, last call. I have nothing for that. Raise a glass and hold it up to the light because if it wasn't for Tesla, the current coming into your house would be all cattywampas and your light bulbs as well as your computers would explode.
01:06:12
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What does Tesla have to do with history defeating itself? Let's face it. Most of us aren't going to make much of a dent in the world as far as creating something that advances humanity. These people are once in a generation and we need them, but at what cost do they come? I don't know, but that's probably how we're defeating ourselves. Cheers. Cheers.
Conclusion and Reflections
01:06:35
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Thank you, John. Thank you, Greg.
01:06:38
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Hey, it's nice to be back with you guys. Happy new year and to all of our listeners. Happy January. Some of them second. It comes out on the second. Happy January 2nd. No, the third. I think it's the third January 3rd recording at life. Happy New Year. Yeah.