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SERIAL - Leonarda Cianciulli ”The Soap-Maker of Correggio”
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Happy New Year! For this week's story, Lisa is telling us the story of the Italian serial killer Leonara Cianciulli. While on the surface she was a woman with a traumatic past and made her money through being a 'teller' for her clients on what their future would hold - however the events of her past, her own future that was told to her and the love she held for her children would turn this woman into a killer....and it will blow your mind.
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Transcript
Chaotic Start
00:00:06
Speaker
Well, hello and thanks for tuning in to another episode of Twisted Tales with Faith and Lisa. And hello. Hi. It's been a long day. I was going to say, you definitely said hello more than once. I did. I realized that after. Hey, guys, how are you today? What happened today with you today? Maybe I need to lube up my brain with some hummus.
00:00:37
Speaker
All right, well, you said a lube. I'm sorry. What you said all this was used for, you dumb dumb. I was I was more happy about the word lube. Well, I see. All right. And anyways.
Faith's Unpreparedness
00:00:55
Speaker
Faith is clearly unprepared because I left all my notes at home. So we were supposed to record two episodes this weekend and that didn't happen. So you're going to get to hear from Lisa again and something about soap or soup, depending on how you spell it. Well, it's definitely not soup. I know I misspelled it. I know it was amazing. This is the worst intro in history.
00:01:21
Speaker
No, I'm pretty sure we've had worse. If we if we listen, we've had worse. Yeah, that's probably a solid point. Solid point. I do want to know, though, based on a a podcast that I listened to earlier about the website and things of that nature. And we were where we are with that. We're exactly where we were last time I mentioned it. Oh, cool. So you've done nothing.
00:01:44
Speaker
Correct. I also saw all these people out there that are like excited to all like my mom and your mom and my best friend started listening. So three. Your best friend that has been on the podcast that one time and still not listening. Yeah, she's a cheat on you, Destiny. Agreed. I wanted the last name you, but I did not. Should have should have.
00:02:11
Speaker
Well, what do you have for us,
Introduction to Leonardo Cincioli
00:02:13
Speaker
Lisa? Well, one of us needs to be prepared. I have a story, guys. Would you look at that? Oh, so I am actually going to take us into the way back machine again. I love the way back. How way back, though, your way back and my way back differ very greatly. We'll get there when we get there. All right. Lord, this is actually this is a. A place that.
00:02:40
Speaker
Rewind. This occurs in Italy. She talks for a living. Oh, your home country. My home country, except for one small problem. Still can't pronounce the towns for crap. So I'm going to name like one town and then I'm going to be like, and then they move towns. Because you know what, guys, sometimes it's just better to not. Yeah, it is. It is. It's true. Silence is golden. It really is. You're a lot smarter when you're quiet.
00:03:08
Speaker
You peer that way at least like I didn't mean you specifically but that came out Yeah, and you're looking right at me over here. What do you want me to do? And I don't see that's why I got a lot of stuff. You're an idiot tough stuff. You're the only person out here to look at. Hey, I prefer not to see you face I'm trying to dig my way out Keep digging. You're doing a great job. So Italy you say
00:03:34
Speaker
Do they have cannolis? I love cannolis. This is the way you're you're you're trying to put me back on track from being upset with you or calling me a dummy online. It's OK. I accept it anyways. So we are going to talk about a woman this time named Leonardo Cincioli. Leonardo Cincioli. Leonardo Cincioli.
00:03:53
Speaker
And she was born on April 18th, 1884. Eighteen hundred. Eighteen hundred. That is way back. It is way back. Way back. This is a good way back. All right. Continue to truly. And she was born in Montella, Italy, which is the only city we will name.
00:04:13
Speaker
I probably didn't even say that one, right? You probably didn't. There's always your Italian lungs are just shriveling up and dying and becoming a redneck as it has been for years. I'd like to see an Italian. Never mind. You go grab that catfish out of the water, you bastard. But they're also probably a lot smarter than us anyways.
00:04:44
Speaker
Oh, so there is, again, with all this crap that I pick, there's not always like a huge amount of information about these people because it was so way back when. Right. Right. But on one account of research that I had done said that her mother was raped and forced to marry the man that raped her.
00:05:03
Speaker
Oh, again, you're you're going back in the day. You're 80 hundreds. I mean, yeah, if you got pregnant, you marry who fathered whoever fathered regardless. Exactly. So I can't confirm that, but I can't really deny that either. That's not good. Needless to say, though, it was not a happy home.
00:05:20
Speaker
Her mother was not really a kind woman to her because I mean, I mean if you're thinking about it logic not logically because even still it's just emotional It was not great till Leonardo, right? It's a constant reminder of what happened and what happened to you and what your life became because of what happened to you Yeah, but that's a really selfish way to look it is a very selfish way But we're humans and humans are inherently selfish people
00:05:43
Speaker
Touche, that is correct. How do you get someone to change behavior you don't like? You make it affect them because if they're bad behavior doesn't affect them, they're not going to change it. They don't care what it does to you. That's good. But for Leonardo, that's not really going to be the case because he's kid. So it's never kid's fault. No, never. It didn't choose it anyway. So like I said, I can't confirm it or deny it.
Marriage and Motherhood Challenges
00:06:13
Speaker
But she was not not a great mom. In fact, Leonardo attempted suicide twice by the time she was a teen. Wow. In 1917, her mother arranged for her to marry a wealthy man. Leonardo actually refused it and ended up marrying a registry clerk named Raphael. Pensardi. And I know I said that badly correctly. Pensardi. That was even worse. All right. Not going to do it. Yeah, that was terrible.
00:06:42
Speaker
Her mom was pretty pissed, right? And supposedly put a curse on them. Oh, OK. OK. So I'll keep going before the questions start, because the question is going to start here soon for you. So she married this dude. And in 1927, Leonardo was arrested for fraud. No idea what the fraud was. Later in the story, I can only assume it had something to do with
00:07:11
Speaker
with what happens later on in the story. I don't want to give away like the Pearl just yet. OK. But that's my assumption. OK. Yeah.
00:07:23
Speaker
When she was released, the couple moved to another town. See, told you I'm I'm refusing to name any other towns, but they went to another town during their marriage. Leonardo was pregnant 17 times. She lost three to miscarriage, like one, seven, three short of twenty one, seven.
00:07:43
Speaker
She was no epidurals back in the day. Well, you got to listen. Hell's bells. No. OK, well, actually, it really doesn't help. Three past of miscarriage. Right. And then 10 died before they were even in their youth. OK, so. So she's like, she had she had four kids that made it to adulthood. And she was insanely protective of all of them. What happened to the 10 that died before teenage years?
00:08:13
Speaker
Well, Faith, they died, so nothing. I don't understand. Are you being intentionally obtuse? No. How did they die? How did Alton dies? I mean, all the stuff that ran rampant back then. Mama didn't put something in the porridge? No, it was absolutely nothing like that. So she was a good mom. She for all intents and purpose. To this point in the story, because she was a good mom.
00:08:41
Speaker
I really got to work for the stories when Lisa's telling them, don't we, guys? Work, work, work, work. I'm done. And so, yeah, she had four kids that made it to adulthood. And like I said, she was insanely protective of all of them. Leonardo believed fully that all of her kids died because of her mother's curse. Do we know what kind of curse was put on? Do we have like the rhyme that was given? No, we do not have any of the rhyme. It just had to be a rhyme.
00:09:11
Speaker
Well, I think curses are are usually in, you know, how do you know her mom wasn't just like, you know, I hope you marry a moron and your kids die because she already knew who she married. Dumb, dumb. That's why she cursed them. Language. OK, I so I whispered it. Maybe it won't come through this time. No, you've got the good mic. It's definitely coming through. Now another one. I was talking about beavers. You are not. I was talking about you sit on a thermal ice.
00:09:43
Speaker
What movie was that? Elf? Yes! You're not Santa. I hate that movie so much. I did it first, but now I love it. All right, continue. I literally hate that movie. Anyways, like I said, she believed that the mom's curse, the reason all the kids died, her family were a family of fortune tellers. Aha! So they believed in all the tarot cards, all the, you know. So they were gypsies.
Beliefs and Self-Fulfilling Prophecies
00:10:12
Speaker
Basically, I would say well, I don't know about gypsies. No other gypsies. We're sticking with gypsies. We'll go gypsies. I love gypsies. They travel in tents. And caravans. I had it. I had it. Tense travel. Exactly. Do you ride them? Like a pony in the back of a caravan? Dum dum. But they travel in them in the tents on the back of the caravan. Don't try to don't try to fault my logic. I got it.
00:10:36
Speaker
This is 1800s. They don't have caravans. Yes, they do. They just a caravan. It's a horse carriage at this point. It's a caravan of gypsies. All of their horses and buggies. I'm thinking caravan like like a Dodge caravan. Yeah. No.
00:10:51
Speaker
Like really take windows not tell people how stupid we are Well, what's the language of Brazil Brazilian? That was not me Yeah, I will say I did have to Google it What do you speak English?
00:11:26
Speaker
Guys, I'm sorry if you don't find us amusing, but we think we're hilarious You know so you know what poor thing is to use yourself. I do it daily. It's okay. Here's the deal, too You can you can have a story and some morons and it's you get a great story out of it at some point when we shut up and
00:11:43
Speaker
Yeah, and then maybe once or twice would make you laugh. I don't know who knows who knows. They're probably just laughing like these girls can walk and breathe at the same time without reminders. Brava. Sometimes I need help. Brava. So you enter the gum and it gets real hard. All right. So gypsies gypsies. So apparently, Leonardo had gone to some
00:12:32
Speaker
Betting both of these things happened eventually. Yeah, it's called a self-fulfilling prophecy You know and that's the exact thing that I was talking about like or I was thinking about not talking what I may have talked out loud um
00:12:35
Speaker
the fortune variety
00:12:44
Speaker
But if somebody speaks something over you and you believe it so wholeheartedly, does that not just become you at some point because it devastates you or raises you up so much? It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's just like when you think I'm a loser, I'm never going to mount anything. I'm just going to be like my drug addicted family who, you know what I mean?
00:13:06
Speaker
around here that live in a trailer and don't do. And then that's what you think about yourself. So you don't apply yourself at school. You don't try. You drop out. You get hooked on drugs because that's what you know. Yeah, you literally just don't think anything's going to matter. So it's, I mean, some of it's environmental, but it's just like kids who come from very wealthy families of entrepreneurs.
00:13:26
Speaker
They're told you can do anything you want to. You're going to build a great business. You're going to be until and they are because they know that they are. This is what they've been told. So while some of it is environmental, I believe it is just my personal opinion. I'm not licensed. I know nothing as the Brazilian taught us. But the Brazilian is an actual human.
00:13:49
Speaker
Brazilian language, though. Oh, I just talked about that. Keep up. I think a lot of what we become is what we tell ourselves like in our head. If you tell yourself you're worth. It's not even just what you tell yourself. It's what's spoken over you daily.
00:14:03
Speaker
But if you choose not like if you're told, yeah, that's true. That's no good point. I just literally saw a meme that said once once you inherently have like sound confidence in yourself and you know who you are, people's negativity and backwards comments and belittling comments no longer matter because you don't find your worth in other people's words. But what you know about yourself.
00:14:30
Speaker
So people can tell you whatever they want about you. Yeah. But it's what you believe and internalize that you typically end up becoming. Just personal opinion. You want to know the best meme I ever saw? What? It was a picture of like a dude on a wave runner. And it said now if your life was only as cool as you made it out to be on Facebook.
00:14:54
Speaker
And I was like, yeah. Right. Yeah. So true. You know, my favorite one I've ever seen. What have you prayed about it as much as you've talked about it? Oh, boom. Yeah. That's a punchy in your nose. Lap in the face. He slept. I don't want to say the bad word. Yeah. We'll get you there someday. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm going to move on with my story, please. We've rambled long enough. So Leonardo wound up.
Giuseppe's Decision and Consequences
00:15:22
Speaker
becoming a teller herself. And by all of the accounts, she was really good at it. OK, so she made enough money to help support her family, to raise her four remaining kids. At some point, her oldest son, Giuseppe, that Giuseppe, where's her husband in all this? Is he still in the picture? Oh, he's around. Well, we don't talk about him because he's irrelevant. OK. Continue this story is definitely.
00:15:49
Speaker
has nothing to do with the husband at all. OK. Yeah. So Giuseppe. So when her oldest son Giuseppe was old enough, he went to Leonardo and was like, hey, mom, I'm going to join the Royal Italian Army and prepare myself for the Second World War. No, you're not. So I want you to think about this logically. How do you think Leonardo responded?
00:16:15
Speaker
I'm assuming I've lost not well. 13 kids and someone told me I'm going to lose all my kids. Yeah, not well. So she's upset. OK, any mom is super upset. Like you can be proud of your kid, but that's still scary because here's a woman who's like I spent my entire life protecting my remaining kids from harm. And you're running into it. Yeah. And now her precious son is is running into it going off to war.
00:16:45
Speaker
She swore to Giuseppe, made him a promise that she would do anything in her power to keep her safe while he was gone. Keep who's safe? Giuseppe. You said to keep her safe. I'm sorry, keep him safe. OK, back with you. Yeah, sorry about that. So like she's going to do the voodoo. She's going to do whatever it takes. How's she going to do anything from there? Spirit one.
00:17:10
Speaker
OK. Spare to woman. She's going to do whatever it takes. Continue to keep him safe. And I don't think he fully understood exactly what that meant. Oh. What is that? Tell. As I was saying earlier, she was a teller, right? She had a pretty good client base fortune teller, right? Yes. You say teller. That's a bank teller. Oh, sorry. I'm just making sure we're all on the same page here. Just not good enough for you.
00:17:41
Speaker
awkward silence, and we are a go. She was a fortune teller. Yes, she did the tarot cards and whatever, and I couldn't spell tarot. Tarot, I don't even know how to say it. So should we just pause it and end it now? I think so. No, you got to wait. It's a good story.
00:18:08
Speaker
Um, she had a really good client base. OK. Because like I said, she was doing all this getting paid for it. Yeah. Like supporting her family. She had she had a following. Yeah. So according to the others, she was a very spiritually gifted woman. OK. This was like people from her town, neighbors, whatever. They all said that she had a gift. OK. One of her clients. I got to remember how to say this name again. Faustina said he
00:18:39
Speaker
had become had been going to Leonardo for help trying to find a husband. You know, women get lonely. And what else do you do except go to a fortune teller? So Leonardo told her of a nice man in Pola. And asked her not to tell anybody about him just yet, because, you know, we don't we don't want to jinx anything. OK, so she persuaded Faustina to write letters to her family
00:19:09
Speaker
and her friends and tell her that she would be. You know, move into this poll place or whatever, and that Leonardo herself would would mail them when she got there. OK,
Grisly Murders and Misguided Protection
00:19:22
Speaker
this isn't good. There is no poll. So Faustina left Leonardo's home, kept her word, didn't say a thing to her family and friends. Some days later, Faustina went back to Leonardo's home and basically to say goodbye, say thank you so much for helping me. Leonardo's like, let's celebrate.
00:19:39
Speaker
OK, so she she poured two drinks and pretty much like slipped her an old age Mickey into Faustina's drink and she passed out. At this point, Leonardo whacked her over the head with an axe. OK, let's take a she drug her body to a closet, cut her into nine pieces. She put her blood in a bucket. And what I'm about to say to you is a direct quote
00:20:08
Speaker
from Leonardo when she was finally captured. OK, so this is like word for word verbatim. OK, are you ready? As I'm going to be. Cool. I threw the pieces into a pot, added seven kilos of caustic soda. Which I had bought to make soap. And stirred the mixture until the pieces dissolved into a thick, dark mesh that I poured into several buckets and emptied in a nearby septic tank.
00:20:38
Speaker
As for the blood in the basin, I waited until it coagulated. I dried it, put it in the oven, and then ground it and mixed it with flour, chocolate, milk, and eggs, as well as a bit of margin. Needing all of the ingredients together, I made lots of crunchy tea cakes and served them to the ladies who came to visit me.
00:21:07
Speaker
I thought you said beware, though, not though Josephi and I also ate them. I thought he was in the army. I'm sure he wasn't like gone forever. Did he know what he was eating? People, people, I literally looked at it. I don't know. And there was a lot of speculation that the husband and Giuseppe knew exactly what was going on. But what would just just listen to my story. OK, stop asking so many intelligent questions. I don't like it. Oh, yeah.
00:21:38
Speaker
So. She got away. Scott Free. Nobody knew a thing. Right. Because they had all these handwritten letters from this woman saying that she moved. To a different town. Right. And it was all proven to be her handwriting. So needless to say, Leonardo, pretty manipulative. Yeah, you think. Yeah. So then we move on to Francesca. So wave.
00:22:08
Speaker
Not saying that right, I'm sure. Suave, I don't know. Was told by Leonardo that she found her a job. She did not find you a job. Your job is filling the bellies of her patron.
00:22:22
Speaker
That's that's one interesting way to look at it. So she was persuaded again to write these letters saying, I got you a job opportunity. Here's where I'm going. I'll contact you further when blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She agreed to all of Leonardo's terms and met the same fate as Faustina. And she was the second victim.
00:22:48
Speaker
And again, not a whole lot was said about Francesca. But the final victim. Gets kind of interesting. You are so not paying attention to me at all. No, you're not trying to find pictures of this woman. So they're everywhere, dude. So Virginia. Uh, we're just call Virginia because I can't say her last name.
00:23:15
Speaker
fell into the web of this of this vicious woman as well. She was also told by Leonardo that she had found a job. Now, Virginia was a former soprano that was said to have sung at Larski Scala Scalia, the scalia, maybe. I don't know. You don't know. So when she was told that Leonardo found her her job,
00:23:41
Speaker
as a secretary, helping organize operas in Florence. Like literally, she was ecstatic. Yeah. OK, because this is exactly. Let's just throw out there. Something seems too good to be true. It probably is. You're going to be a treat. Oh, OK. Anyways. Oh, Faith, I hate you. You're going to have to edit that out. What?
00:24:06
Speaker
So we go back through the process. Don't tell anybody. Let's write some notes. OK, let's do what we got to do. How is any of this helping keep her son safe? Like she's supposed to be keeping Giuseppe safe. How is making human chocolates? Yeah, but what does she do? She baked them into goodies. She did. What does she do first?
00:24:34
Speaker
Cuss him up before that. She lied to them. You missed the tweener. I think I did. She killed them. Yes. What? Why do people kill people in a religious belief? Because they're crazy. Yes. Because they haven't done their research on what real sacrifice, honey. But she didn't say human sacrifice. I get that. But in her little montage of what she did with it, she didn't say she did any kind of ritual. She just said I chopped her up and I baked her.
00:25:04
Speaker
That was literally like the motive. It was human sacrifice killing one to save her son. And then making her son eat the remains. Yeah, that was she's crazy. Great. Has there ever in the history of any case that we have done thus far a rhyme or reason for what they've done? Yes. Not victims killing the people. No, Dexter. Again.
00:25:34
Speaker
He was a victim. And we still can't prove the lives that he took. Oh, well, he will. He's probably got his butt kicked, isn't OK? We can't go back into this. Not only that, but you haven't even posted that episode yet. I did have to take it down. Editing per problems. Yeah, I'm a dumb dumb either way. Either way. All right. So she's literally taking human sacrifices to try to save herself. Gotcha. Hmm. Hmm.
00:26:06
Speaker
blah, blah, blah, blah. That's just like she did with two other women, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yep. That's my research is the best. This is one time a bank. No, I'm done. OK. So once again. After all was said and done and she found her this great job and everything's honky donky, Virginia leaves the house.
00:26:28
Speaker
But they all always go back to say bye and thank you. Why? Why? I don't think people don't be polite. Yeah, who needs it? Nobody's helping you for free, bro. No, like they didn't know she was never she gets paid for this. So she's taking their money and killing them and eating them and making money off the tree. She's selling to other clients. She doesn't sell them. She gives them to her paying. She just gives them to people. So keeping people coming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:58
Speaker
So Virginia goes back. Don't say they let's celebrate. Let's have a drink together. Way Virginia. It's not safe. Everything is great. Life is great. I'm about to be as happy as I can be in the afterlife. So she passes out. And she's been a repeat. She has been a repeat. And she got whacked with an axe chopped up into nine pieces. Lord.
00:27:28
Speaker
The only problem was this time Virginia's sister-in-law watched her go into the house because she can go look.
00:27:37
Speaker
Oh, smart Virginia. So the secret. Always have a buddy system. Hey, I got this great job. I'm not going to tell anybody, but wait, my sister in law. You you always tell somebody to. Absolutely. I call you and I find a good sell on Black Friday. I don't. Well, I was going to say, dude, even if you have a deep dark secret, who am I going to tell? I don't know people. No, we don't like the people. I don't care. Hmm.
00:28:05
Speaker
Oh, sounds like drama. I'm out anyways. So, yeah, Virginia's sister-in-law's are going to the house. Found it highly suspicious that she never came out. You're a smart lady, Virginia. Smart woman. Right. So she called the cops. Oh, man. Did the cops respond? They opened an investigation. They finally arrested her. Leonardo.
00:28:36
Speaker
She refused to confess until the cops speculated that her son, Giuseppe, had something to do with it. And then the details of her crimes came pouring out of her mouth like diarrhea. So she literally like they're like, I think your son's involved. No, let me tell you what it did. Exactly. Yeah. Good mom. So. Direct quote, horrible person. Good mom direct quote. From good old Leonardo.
00:29:06
Speaker
when she confessed to Virginia's murder. She ended up in the pot like the other two. Her flesh was fat and white when it melted. I added a bottle of cologne and after a long time on the boil, I was able to make the most exceptional creamy soap. Oh, I gave the I gave the bars to neighbors and acquaintances. Can you imagine washing your hands with that and figuring out as people fat?
00:29:35
Speaker
Bro. You would never be clean again. That's like Matinee's roadside barbecue. What if they wash their baby with that? Oh man, why are you going to take it to that point? Because you know that's what happened. Like they're washing their hands and then eating with their hands. With people fat on their hands. Yeah.
00:30:05
Speaker
She gave the bars to neighbors and acquaintances, but she also made tea cakes and handed those out to all. So neighbors and acquaintances all ate the coagulated blood of. These women. Yeah. Quote, I'm not hungry, quote. Are you ready? No.
00:30:37
Speaker
She was really sweet, and she tasted better than the others. Oh, ma'am. You need to be institutionalized. How do you get there? How do you ever eat another thing again if you're one of the people that ate one of her treats? I would tell you two things. One,
00:31:01
Speaker
We always go to on to Florida, right, for vacation. And everybody always has the handmade soaps and everything's honky donky, right? Yeah, yeah. I'll stick to my dial bar of soap, which you never know. No, no. I guess I'm just going to be dirty from now on. I don't know. Sometimes like when I go through the McDonald's drive through. I'm wondering, you know. Did they wash their hands after they took a dump?
00:31:29
Speaker
Well, who cares? This point is dirty either way. Yeah. Wow, I've never had a tea cake ever. And I shall not. I shall not ever have one. No, I'm all said. But if I ever visit Italy.
00:31:44
Speaker
No tea cakes, no tea cakes, no homemade soap. Yeah, no fancy little bars of soap. No. Keep that rose-shaped petal away from me. Keep that rose-shaped petal away from me. And you know they've got all those people on Etsy and Facebook and TikTok that's like, oh, look, I'm making this. Now I'm going to be like, who'd you boil up to do that? No, thank you. I don't want your Angela brand.
00:32:09
Speaker
Lilac said it's so far, ma'am. Oh, my God. Who did you boil to make that? That's going to be in my mind. I'm sorry. I'm not making fun of these poor women indoors. Oh, well, no, because, OK, look, this is not victim shaming. This isn't anything is when you sit here and you listen to these stories and then it makes you think
00:32:35
Speaker
Like, I could have literally could have been so susceptible to that. No matter what. Do you think I've ever eat a treat that comes into work now? That's nope. I don't know. It's about how many things in the stories that we've told. Well, we probably never do again. A lot of them. You know what I'm saying? I don't. It's not it's not a comical thing when we when we do what we when we say what we say.
00:33:00
Speaker
It's more or less like it's funny because now, like, literally I'm afraid of everything. I don't want to get like, you know what I mean? Ourself. All right, I'm not quite done yet. Oh, geez, there's more. So the police had their doubts that this woman would be able to chop up these victims into nine pieces. OK.
Confession and Conviction
00:33:23
Speaker
And so they start attacking the husband, which I talked up the firewood the other day with little log. I thought I was going to die. No comment. You're lazy. One comment. OK. Touche. Touche. So she told the cops. If you don't believe me, take me to the morgue. Oh, dang.
00:33:50
Speaker
And so they did. What? And they gave her an axe. And let her go to town? And she showed the cops, God and everybody, that she could chop a body into nine pieces with an axe. No. Supposedly. Y'all can go look this stuff up for yourself. It's not a joke, OK? This is dead, dead ass. Whose body were they like? Oh, here.
00:34:19
Speaker
I'm sure people die of illnesses and stuff, but they got family, I'm sure. Maybe they were like criminals. That's OK. I don't know. So during her trial, naturally, she showed no remorse because she did. She was found guilty, sentenced to 30 years and died in during her prison time of cerebral craziness. No. You could probably help me with this word, actually.
00:34:48
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apoplexy. I'm going to go on a limit. You're not pronouncing that. You've got the fastest on the wrong syllable. Probably. More likely. There were a number of artifacts in the case, including the part or the pot that she put the victims in that are on display in the Criminology Museum. The criminal criminological. Do they have some of the soap?
00:35:16
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I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that everybody at that point was like, I'm going to melt this down to nothing. Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine finding out that you ate the tea cakes and use the soap? Yeah. I think the tea cakes would have messed me up a little more like outside flesh. Right. But then consuming it. Oh, that's just jacked up. But, you know, you know, it's a it's a cake. How many kids you think ate those tea cakes?
00:35:46
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Don't want to know I've never had a sweet treat that my kids not like mom Baby bird here The I don't know what that noise was um I'm just gonna let that one go so then yeah while she was in jail She also wrote a book Called the confessions of an embittered soul, okay I looked around
00:36:15
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to see if it was like available. Of course you did. I can't find it anywhere. But if you can, let me know. Well, it's probably because it's very interesting to think like, um, I've killed three women. I made soap and tea cakes with them. And I'm going to write you a book. Is it like a how to? Is it is it a do it yourself? Like,
00:36:41
Speaker
What are you right about? Confessions of a bitter soul is probably talking about how horrible her mama is. All the kids. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Wow. That's a weird one, isn't it? I told you it was not a very long story. Nothing safe. No. You've ruined soap and tea cakes all in one night. That's that's I'm not done. I will ruin more things for you. It's either there's more.
00:37:11
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this story no but I'll ruin something else. Well you've ruined hummus for me. Oh that was a good story though. I feel like I've ruined a lot more than that for you. I don't know. I feel like you said that a lot. I tend to forget the things you say pretty rapidly.
00:37:32
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Yeah, I don't I don't keep my memory bank for your words. Would you? Except for the parents. No, I'm done here. We cannot. We cannot always bring up the classics every single day. All right. Well, short, sweet to the point, we've ruined both washing and edible treats for you all tonight.
00:37:58
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Well, if the water is hot enough, I mean. No, no, I would never feel clean again. And you know, people were a lot. You know, there was one person that was like, but the soap is so good. I don't even care. It is so smooth. You know, do you remember that episode of Criminal Minds with? Oh, my gosh. You know, he was in the screaming movies, I think.
00:38:23
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He was the weirdo and he was killing the girls and then he volunteered to do a search party and he made the chili.
Reflections on Trust and Homemade Goods
00:38:31
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Yeah, no, that was it. Now it's Jamie Kennedy. We don't care about the methane. Methany. Methany. Whatever. Joe Methany. Yeah, we talked about him. It reminded me of that one, too. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:45
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Why? If you want to murder and eat someone, I don't condone that. First of all, that's wrong. And that's bad. And you should seek professional help. Deep, deep, deep professional. But why you got to go feed them to everybody else? As I said, suspectively. Well, my question is, at what point in your life are you like, well, I think I've had enough red meat.
00:39:16
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I'm just saying, guys. People ain't right. No, people are not right. So moral of the story. We don't trust homemade soaps. No. So we do not eat tea cakes at all. We don't trust sweets given to us by acquaintances unless we know them personally. What is a tea cake? Don't still don't know. Probably one of those like little petite deflores or whatever, like the little, you know, it's like little square like cake things like a brownie.
00:39:45
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No, it's called it's called a petite. It's a brownie petite. OK, no, it's a brownie. Oh, my gosh. You uneducated swine. So we don't eat tea cakes. We don't eat. We don't need anything given to us by acquaintances at all. We don't. I'm going to learn to speak Brazilian, guys. We're going to call it a night since I'm such an uneducated swine.
00:40:11
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I'm going to go shove my face full of food and call it a night because faith is a whore. Oh, we've got downhill quick. You made me angry, but you were laughing. You're not angry.
00:40:26
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So. I hope that that's enough. I will post pictures when I can get the name close enough to Google to pull a picture. Oh, at least it shows me her show notes. I guess I could do that. And besides that, I hope you guys have a safe, safe and happy rest of your week. Absolutely. Faith, I look forward to you actually telling a story at some point. Your stories have been so good, though.
00:40:53
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That was a good one. That was a good one. Freak. My story is amazing, though. Yeah, your stories always piss me off. No, this one will not. Yeah, this one will piss you off. But what else? It always does. Well, guys. So anyways, guys, I hope all your Christmas shopping is getting done. Oh, taking time as a ticket. I don't have.
00:41:15
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Anyways, we hope you guys have a fabulous night. Ah, evening, day, morning, whenever, whatever. Just just time in your life. And we'll see you later. Bye. Bye.