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Fight for Freedom in the Philippines
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Lisa is giving us a synopsis of Stephanie March's report from the show Foreign Correspondent, on a particularly difficult subject regarding the child sexual abuse and sting operations in the Philippines. We discuss the story of one child in particular that was currently being investigated and attempting to solve but also look at the bigger picture of the individuals who dedicate their lives to stopping child sex slavery.
TRIGGER WARNING: Sexual abuse of a child will be discussed in this episode.
Link to Episode: Inside the Global Taskforce Fighting Child Sex Abuse in the Philippines | Foreign Correspondent - YouTube
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Transcript
Introduction and Weather Woes
00:00:04
Faith Pezzulo
Well, hello, happy day to you all and thanks for tuning in into an episode of Twisted Tales with Faith. And Lisa. And our allergies. Yes. I was going to sneeze just that and my apologies. It's East Tennessee. It is ah absolutely freezing outside. And so we've got all kinds of things going on. So sniffles and coughs and whatnot will probably happen.
00:00:29
Faith Pezzulo
It'd be super cool if it wasn't like, I don't know, 59 one day and then 12 the next. do That that's a problem. So just bear with us. um We had our first snowmageddon of the year. We had we did we had a solid three inches Shut the town down my friends um You know, it's funny. I went to food city for lunch on Monday just to pick up something ah Nothing, there was no like frozen pizzas. There was literally they cleaned it out. I went on like Wednesday or Thursday before snowmageddon hit on Friday and
00:01:05
Faith Pezzulo
There was nothing like there wasn't a single egg. And I was like, I said I would make pancakes tomorrow.
Grocery Store Chaos and Podcast Growth
00:01:10
Faith Pezzulo
There are no eggs like there was nothing. No. And you would think people would prepare a little bit better because chances are fine. We get snowed in of all the things that are likely to happen. It's going to be a power outage. OK. Right. Not that we're going to get killed with snow and have a right. And they're picking up things that.
00:01:29
Faith Pezzulo
You have to heat. What's this old adage of get the bread and milk? What are you going to make? Milk sandwiches. So bad. Yep. And milk sandwich. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway. Yeah. We survived. We are still frozen. And then it sucks when you are frozen that actually needs the milk. Like I literally planned on going to get milk today. Oh yeah. And there are there's just nothing. There's nothing. Now what am I going to eat my damn cereal with? Nothing. Yeah. Anyway.
00:01:57
Faith Pezzulo
Sorry, we have ah been missing in action for a while. I will totally take full blame for that. I will give her full blame for that. um Things have been chaotic. Sorry, guys. You know, you know, it's been a couple of months. Yeah, you don't need a ah play by play, but it was my fault. I'm sorry. I'm a failure. I have noticed, though, that there are people liking our Facebook page.
00:02:18
Faith Pezzulo
absence makes the heart grow fondant. That must be it. I doubt that. I doubt that. I still think that they just like it because they're like, oh, they're finally gone. I don't like this pitch. They're not talking. So yeah. Anyway, so it is my turn to speak tonight. And before I jump into my story, I have a small rant.
Netflix and the Glorification of Criminals
00:02:39
Faith Pezzulo
Oh, goody. All right. There's has anyone ever heard Lisa going to rant that small? That's me either. But let's yeah continue on together.
00:02:47
Faith Pezzulo
All right. So first off, I'm thinking like, because all of these things are popping up on Netflix for like ah all these new movies that are coming out. Right. And so they gave. Right. Zac Efron. Yeah. Played a serial killer. Yep. No, Ted Bundy. but ah And then you get this other kid that played.
00:03:06
Faith Pezzulo
Dahmer. Yeah. And it was like miniseries. OK, that's right. Whatever. I guess play whatever. And then I'm sitting here here and I start thinking about it. And I'm like, man, they they really do this a lot. Right. Where you're you're coming up with these movies that are based on these real individuals. Right. And it doesn't it doesn't seem like they're just telling the story anymore. Oh, no. It's almost like a glorification of which like yeah monster. Right. Like at least they had common courtesy enough to like make her look Like you look like her. Yeah, like in Warnus, right? Like you line them up. You can't tell the difference. Yeah. Like she played a bad guy. Right. Yeah. But they I feel like they give too much like like they do. They do give it glory, but they almost justify what they did. Because like we've always said, feel bad for the kid that it happened to. But you still get the death penalty. You make your own decisions. Right. But they like justify their actions.
00:04:04
Faith Pezzulo
And now they've got another one coming out with Ed Gein, who was like the grossest human I've ever seen. And they've got some big, tall, like attractive guy. And I don't know if you guys have never researched Ed Gein and go for it. All right, dude was nasty. He was the nipple guy, right? The nipple guy cut off the nipples and made a belt or something.
00:04:26
Faith Pezzulo
I'm pretty sure like he was one of like the skin suit types of people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And um I don't remember if he was cannibal or not. I have to go back and look I don't think he was a cannibal. He went after young boys. I mean, no, I'm mixing. I'm thinking of the guy that dressed like a clown. That's great. That's John Wayne Gacy. Yeah, I'm the kind of gay. No.
00:04:45
Faith Pezzulo
But neither neither here nor there. Yeah, they I do agree. they I feel like they glorify the killer and justify why they did what they did. And the victims are just kind of like a footnote. Yeah. And it's like they're not even making it out to be like. You would think like if you're going to tell a story like that, it would be a horror film. Yeah. But they're not even doing it in a horror film kind of a way.
00:05:11
Faith Pezzulo
They're doing it in a he's telling the story of what his life was like. Yeah, it's like it's yeah. I don't know. It really just pissed me off because I'm going through like a bunch. It's not even a documentary like they're they're giving. They're doing a little bit of, you know, creative. Elaboration or whatever, you know, they're they they're taking into entertainment, liberties, creative liberties as well. I was trying to think if I couldn't think of the word liberties.
00:05:34
Faith Pezzulo
But they're making it like it's not it's not it's a movie. It's not a documentary. Right. And I can't say that, you know, I never have never seen Monster. I can honestly tell you that. I never watched it. I have. I watched it with the Ritz back in the back in the day. Yeah, I watched it make. Right. But I'm going to tell you, like, I didn't know because this is I mean, back when I was young. Yeah. But I didn't know that was based off a true story and it is messed up.
00:06:03
Faith Pezzulo
Yeah. Oh, I mean, she was a lunatic. Oh, she didn't. And it sounds crazy. Yeah. 100 percent. Yeah. But um I don't
Documentary Doubts: P Diddy and Epstein
00:06:13
Faith Pezzulo
know. It just I went down a rabbit hole on like because I saw it on TikTok. I think they were yeah talking about the Ed Gein story. And I was like, what are what are we coming? Like, what are we doing now?
00:06:21
Faith Pezzulo
Mm hmm. That these guys have a voice and it's not we're not talking about them in disgust the way that we should. Mm hmm. And our judgment didn't come to nation. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. So sorry. That's my that's my rant for the moment. Are you excited about the P Diddy documentary coming out? Again, I I I can't 100 percent get on board with that one yet, because how long did it take?
00:06:47
Faith Pezzulo
for anything to come about about with Epstein. Right. Netflix did want like one special. Yeah. But where you they were telling the story, everybody wasn't even like. Like that, you only got like maybe a tiny fragment of that, like the massage. Right. Well, OK, you know how, which, OK, this is all, you know, this is all here, say whatever. But you know, how do you know? Have I told you about how 50 Cent holds a grudge? Mm hmm. Like.
00:07:16
Faith Pezzulo
The best story ever, in my opinion, is he hates Jarl Rule. Well, it's Jarl Rule. Right. No one knows why, but he hates Jarl Rule. He's got had a beef with Jarl Rule all the way back to the day when they were both super popular. Jarl Rule went to prison for whatever, comes out of prison and is doing like his comeback tour. And 50 Cent went on Groupon and bought out the first entire four rows of his concert.
00:07:40
Faith Pezzulo
And John had to go out there and perform to an empty like the first four rows. Nobody just 50 Cent sitting there smiling. Oh, my God. Yeah. So he holds a grudge and he's ready. Oh, yeah. So 50 Cent has known about like it because he's done several interviews and gone on podcasts at this point, allegedly, but he's known about the stuff with P Diddy. Everybody's known about the stuff with P Diddy in Hollywood, let's be honest, allegedly.
00:08:06
Faith Pezzulo
I don't have any money, so come after him if you want to. My husband's been out of job for a while. so yeah um But 50 Cent on his own for years has been interviewing people that have been but he knew were victims of P Diddy. He's got recorded statements, written statements. He's done the footwork for years for when it finally busted.
00:08:30
Faith Pezzulo
And so as soon as pet did he got arrested, he went to everybody saying, here's all my stuff. Who wants to do a documentary? Wow. So he already had all the all the witness testimonies. He already had all this stuff ready to frickin go. Yeah. So as soon as he got arrested, it's national news. Everybody in the frickin world knows about it. Yeah. So he goes to everybody. First person that buys it buys it. And I don't know. Is this the one that's supposed to be dropping on? um i I was going to say, I don't think the 50s.
00:09:00
Faith Pezzulo
cock Paramount Paramount. I don't know. I thought 50 Cent documentaries come out on HBO on HBO or Netflix. OK. All right. So I don't know if this is it, but that just goes to ship. But that is an example of people have known about the situation for forever, compiled evidence and just waited until they could cash in basically. Yeah.
00:09:22
Faith Pezzulo
So while the documentary is quick, I don't think it's going to be discounted because people have been compiling things for forever. And they're just they're going to make the most money now while the iron's hot. So they're striking. I don't disagree. And not like I said, I'm like, I didn't say I wouldn't watch it. I'm just saying it just seems a little quick for me. It does. But I don't know. Yeah.
00:09:45
Faith Pezzulo
I think there are way, way bigger fish to fry, and that'll tie into Epstein when, you know, call it a ah conspiracy there. Call it what you want. This seems like R. Kelly all over again. I think he's a fall guy. I really hope Elon Musk was correct when he said if Trump gets elected, the Epstein list. He wasn't the only one that said it. that If Trump gets elected, the Epstein list will go. He gets inaugurated in four days. yo So President Trump, I am waiting for the list. I would like the list to be public so we can all throw stones.
00:10:18
Faith Pezzulo
Anyway, now that we are done with our 20 minute talk, we're going to get on to your story. Kind of like lead into what I'm about to talk. Mine did not. I no like yeah yeah sort of i remember that guy. I talked too much. That's fine. One of us talked too much to be one of us. Yeah. OK, so. Even even with that, like leading into that.
00:10:44
Faith Pezzulo
We have all these stories and documentaries and all these things that are dropping.
Human Trafficking Awareness
00:10:50
Faith Pezzulo
And you hear about like the worst of the worst, right? Like your John Wayne Gacy's and your Ted Bundy's and but there's there is a subject that you and I have talked about over and over and over again. And it just feels like it never gets touched the the way that it should. OK, so I had actually started this by watching a I was a child ah Joe Rogan podcast, actually.
00:11:12
Faith Pezzulo
And he was, when they were talking about human trafficking, he was like, I don't understand how all of these cases are just a blip on the news. And I'm sitting here thinking, cause recently didn't they arrest like 20 or I'm sorry, 72 people yeah in Texas? I want to say Texas.
00:11:28
Faith Pezzulo
And it's like it's just a flash. It's two and a two minute segment and because they don't want to bring attention to it. Yeah. And so I decided I was just going to start doing a deep dive. And this was not the original podcast that I had started. It was this literally started. No, no, I'm being honest. Like it started because of Joe Rogan. Yeah. And so. I was like.
00:11:50
Faith Pezzulo
You've you've got your movies like Sound of Freedom, right? That's probably the biggest one that we've seen that actually drew attention to what human trafficking looks like. Right. And it's still it's sub level. Oh, yeah. OK. And so I started going ah through YouTube just looking to see like what other people had posted. And I actually came across a. um Sorry, my phone is telling me I need to go to data. Sorry.
00:12:20
Faith Pezzulo
love the five G. Yeah, I gotta love it. um So this was done. I'm not really sure that the year that this was done in because at the bottom it said that it was posted a year ago, but I doubt that it was a whole. You don't know if it was publish a year ago probably older than that. Yeah, correct. So take with a grain of salt that.
00:12:41
Faith Pezzulo
As we go through the story, this may not be the up to date, most accurate information that I'm telling you. It could be worse, could be a little better. I don't know. So the story was told by Stephanie March and um it starts in the Philippines. And um this is a and I'll send you the link to it um posted by foreign correspondence. It's like a Australian Because their stuff is so much better than ours, news-wise. Oh, 100 percent. So my 100 percent. Like our date line and stuff is so like. Lame. Yes. You go to like Australia's like their date line. It is great. It's hard to watch sometimes. Well, I mean, they actually like talk about news. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:13:27
Faith Pezzulo
You know, not what. But I will post a I'll post a link to the episode to the YouTube. Yeah, I'll send it to you after this and we can we can post it. So she starts telling a story of a missing seven year
Law Enforcement Challenges in Trafficking Cases
00:13:39
Faith Pezzulo
old girl. Oh, that's in the Philippines. um the The Philippines national headquarters or national police headquarters um basically made up a team, right, with men and women that are from around the world. So I'm going to first stop and just say that they take it so seriously in the Philippines at this point that they have volunteers and people that come in to help. And I watched another documentary of a guy who is from Britain, I think. um And he goes over and does it when he can. And then after after we tell the story, I can tell you guys some of the other things that I've watched in preparation for this. But this was the the main story that I was going to tell. Yeah.
00:14:20
Faith Pezzulo
um And so they literally come together from around the world and try to find kids that are being sexually abused regularly on the Internet. OK. So Caleb Carroll was a former U.S. police detective detective.
00:14:37
Faith Pezzulo
said that pretty much COVID when that hit. So it's it's fairly recent. Right. But we're not I don't like I said, I don't know if it's up to date, up to date info. Yeah. So when COVID hit, it pretty much drove everybody online. Right. Like nobody had access to anything. And that was where like a true explosion of this shit hit the fan. Yeah, because you couldn't. Yes, you couldn't go to a park and end up to get anymore. Yep. yeah Everybody was sheltering in place. Pretty much so.
00:15:06
Faith Pezzulo
We don't have resources or this is him. We don't have resources to stop real time abuse and graphic assault on children, which is true because I mean, a lot of people have this firewalls or they change IP addresses every 10 seconds or, you know, I mean, it's whatever I.T. geeky thing that is. He said most sex offenders come out of the United States and second. Want to take a guess? Philippine. No, no, no. The people that are that are craving this crap written.
00:15:35
Faith Pezzulo
ahre Really? Really? You don't hear about it. That's shocked me. Yeah, you hear about Britain a lot. U.S. 100 percent. Like I look at some of these people on the news and I'm like, yeah yeah yep, yep, yep, Pito. Right. I'm sorry. I don't judge people like that. But if it walks like a duck, you know, I'm just saying. um So, yeah, that that one that one shocked me. I'll sell you to shock me. Yeah. So basically, these predators use an app to communicate. um The offender sends graphic videos or even live stream filth.
00:16:07
Faith Pezzulo
to people looking for this kind of material. Right. So short exploit of what they're doing and who she's with and how they are coming about to this story of the seven year old girl. Yeah. So they um we go back to the seven year old ah that and they basically found her pictures and her videos are streaming on the Internet and they were like, we got to find this kid like we know she's here. Like we know she's in the Philippines. Right. And we need to do what we can. We got to try to save this kid.
00:16:36
Faith Pezzulo
Um, for ah the, for the documentary sake, they ended up naming the girl Jolene. Okay. So there were no actual real names yeah throughout any of this. It gets sent through enough. Even if you know a real name, you don't need to share it. A hundred percent. So they found the videos, analyzed them of a girl being sexually abused, um, seven that they, they believed it was Jolene. Um, and it looks like from what they could tell at that point that mom's boyfriend,
00:17:06
Faith Pezzulo
made some of the videos and that. um What are you doing? I was trying to. Great. I didn't make one continue. All right. And so the the officers on on scene believe that they have an idea of where this guy is kind of hanging out. Right. So they have to go try to find a warrant, try to get to this guy. um One of the detectives said all we can do is wait, basically, so they That's got to be they get frustrating thing in the world. OK, so that's what I was going to say. So I kind of did like some notes to all of this. So basically what happened is they they found it a track. Right. And they wanted to follow this lead. And they found this guy and they think that it's the mom's boyfriend who had been doing all this. Right. So now they know his name. They know where he is. And now they need to get a warrant. Yeah. And at that point in time,
00:18:01
Faith Pezzulo
It took them, I think they said six hours. That's too much time before they would even turn over the warrant. So they had to wait that long. No, I'm just. Yeah, I know. I agree. 100 percent. I think we need we need service on these like Jimmy Jocks. Fast.
00:18:18
Faith Pezzulo
I agree. Like, if it's an hour wait, it's too long. If you know the location, you should... And especially if you know you have enough proof that you're handing to this guy, you're saying this kid is in deep. Yeah, you should be out. yeah It should be like, ah you should walk in and walk out within a five minute done. Yeah. Personally speaking.
00:18:37
Faith Pezzulo
So during the time after they had gotten to they literally like waited at the courthouse for a judge to sign off on this warrant. OK, so during the time, the journal journalist was told about different cases and one of which was a guy named Ian Chappelle from Australia. He had fifty five thousand videos and images of sexual acts on children as young as. No.
00:19:00
Faith Pezzulo
Chappelle was they paid 40 Australian dollars to ruin the life. Forty. Yeah. Forty Australian dollars. You can't go out like 2040. Yeah. Forty dollars continue to. I'm angry. Basically do the thing. Right. And that's why I said I need a mental break from some of this stuff sometimes. Right. So.
00:19:25
Faith Pezzulo
As it turns out, ah that piece of freaking crap, um his youngest victim turned out to only be three. No. That he sold crude, gross images and foul, immoral, disgusting to a moral foul, immoral, disgusting individuals. OK, now, I couldn't come up with any more names without cursing on what I wanted to call these people that are watching this.
00:19:53
Faith Pezzulo
um like I could probably go on for a couple days though. If you would allow me to cuss more on this podcast. I'm just saying. I could come up with some pretty nasty things to call some people. All right. So we're going to jump back into Jolene. So like as Stephanie is telling this story, as they're waiting, she's interviewing cops and kind of getting their take on things that they've been through. Right. So that's kind of the podcast going to be jumping around a little bit with them. All right. So we'll jump back in with Jolene.
00:20:21
Faith Pezzulo
The police went to the judge to approve the warrant. Journalists basically said it's a possibility they won't. what Why? oh I really don't know. Okay. I don't think there's not, he's I mean, I'm sure like I was just going to say, I was going to say, I maybe as a subscriber, I don't know. um So let's see. ah If they, if they do, the police can go to the alleged offender's house, arrest him.
00:20:49
Faith Pezzulo
Save any child that could be there, right? So that's their given the The what they're wanting is the warrant to be signed over fast enough to even if it wasn't Jeline in the house any kid That's there can be rescued. Yeah Okay Like I had said they waited five hours five hours. I'm sorry. um Oh that makes all the difference in the world, right? Yeah, so one of the office I'm sorry. The lawyer was up all night writing the plea for the search warrant. So like you had one lawyer who stayed up all night when they got this information for an entire night and I'm sure based on any kind of like any paperwork ever that I've written, written, read words you on ah any kind of legal documentation. It's got to be a book. Oh, yeah. So this guy in one night wrote out this plea deal and basically threw a prayer up and said, please, you know, give me the warrant so we can get into this house.
00:21:41
Faith Pezzulo
You shouldn't have to do that in this case. You should say, these are the facts that we know. This person's harmed this many children. We have this reason to believe he's at this address right now. Yes. OK, here's my signature. Go with God. And so here's the part. You shouldn't have to sit there and argue it. So in this plea deal, this is a part that pissed me off so freaking royally. So one of the one of the officers that gave his statement on what he had to watch. OK.
00:22:08
Faith Pezzulo
That was in in part of this plea deal for Jolene and getting the search search warrant. OK, let's see. Oh, he said that during the videos that he's seen Jolene keep screaming and begging for the abuse to stop after eight long hours, they finally approved the warrant. So they waited around for five hours to see if it would get approved and then they ended up leaving. And then three hours later, it got approved. OK, no.
00:22:37
Faith Pezzulo
But as soon as they got the go, they they already came up with a plan. Yeah, of course. So they were like, oh, they give a red alert. We're going. All right. So they immediately put the plan they already had and into place to raid hello this guy's house. So they went to the suspects homes or they didn't find Jolene. What they did find was enough evidence to arrest that suspect. OK, so there weren't kids there. They didn't find Jolene, but they at least got one.
00:23:06
Faith Pezzulo
dickhead off the street. Right. So when the journalist asked what kind of material was found and how bad it was, the officer ah that was there responded with it was disgusting. And I really can't explain it. So now here's the thing. I know a lot of people always want like the graphic details. You don't need it on a kid or really any. No, got them not even really on anything. That's what I changed my statement. Yeah. So anyways.
00:23:34
Faith Pezzulo
The police think that the so seven year old Jolene is actually back with her own mother. I would love to know where she was this whole time, which is what I've been thinking as soon as you said the mother's
Parental Desperation and Child Exploitation
00:23:44
Faith Pezzulo
boyfriend. but yeah can you So um they actually believe that she's a willing participant in the abuse of her daughter. Nope.
00:23:56
Faith Pezzulo
yeah So they move into a facility that help they moved to um interviewing ah this facility that helps kids that are suffering from abuse, helps them to attempt to recover. So like the A21 campaign, the Christine Kane, it's kind of like that where they they'll rescue these kids and then they kind of help them attempt to live a normal life. into yeah So Jessa, I'm not going to say this right.
00:24:24
Faith Pezzulo
Lizette Lazz, Lizatti, Lizatti. She's a social worker that works for this particular rescue. She said that the day of the rescue is the worst day. Oh, no doubt. Her conversation with the reporter would like literally sink the hearts of any normal human being. OK, she said you can hear all the stories of their lives being taken, how long they had to suffer the abuse and how long or how their own mothers abused them and exploited them.
00:24:53
Faith Pezzulo
Justin said that it is difficult to hear. Yes. yeah As she said before, the day of rescue is the hardest because kids have been through serious trauma, but the younger ones don't really understand what's going on. Yeah. Why they had to leave their families, why they had to leave their mom. And so she mom pause for a half a second. Yeah. And think about that for a minute. OK, so these kids, while being violently abused,
00:25:20
Faith Pezzulo
At that age, they don't. And that I think when when you people talk about a child's innocence being taken, that's what they mean. Yeah. Like this kid at this point in time has never you've never given him a reason to not love you. Yeah. And he wants to stay with you even though you're crap. bad Yeah, even though you're the one causing all the damage. Yep.
00:25:44
Faith Pezzulo
The most common question is when when can they see their their families again? They don't fully understand what happened to them, therefore, they don't understand why they can't be back with mom and dad, right? So attorney ah Catherine Molesco started a conversation about supply and and demand.
00:26:06
Faith Pezzulo
um You know, like iPhones and laptops. Right. People want it. So they buy it. Right. So the officer in ah the Philippines said if they could put a stop to the demand, then, you know, hopefully, you know, nobody's going to freaking supply that. Right. Right. Conversation got a little bit darker in the dirt. The journalist asked if poverty had anything to do with kids being sold 100 percent. That's her answer. Yes, ma'am. She sure is.
00:26:33
Faith Pezzulo
So she followed by saying it's a parent's job to provide for their children, not the child to provide for their parents. Yep. And that um and took Stephanie down like a really dark road. She is also a mom. um And so she's sort of really kind of thinking to herself. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. Go. If any sense of decency that takes you down a road. In a nutshell, yeah. um So she starts talking.
00:27:02
Faith Pezzulo
or like think it to herself. And she's like, I don't understand how bad off I could possibly be yeah to where I would say, but I'm going to do that to my kid. I couldn't be that often. So she ended up um getting the opportunity while all this other investigation was going on with Jolene. She got the opportunity to to speak with a woman who had been arrested for basically what we everything we've just talked about. She was selling her own kid. And the woman said that when the pandemic started, everybody lost their job.
00:27:31
Faith Pezzulo
She said she did what she had to do, which was sell her kids for sex um so that she could keep her family fit.
00:27:42
Faith Pezzulo
You've got a body. You want to sell something? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you really want to go down that road. okay So, I mean, honestly, Stephanie just straight up asked her. She's like, you know, I'm a mom, too. I don't think I could do that. No. And this woman looks at her and she's just like.
00:27:58
Faith Pezzulo
Well, you've never been faced with the same situations that I've been faced. So how would you know what you would do? Well, I can tell you exactly. OK, so let's just break for a second here. Marty angry. Let me just ask you a question here. Mm hmm. As a mom, as all of us are moms. When you you hear stories like this, like what's your first thought? That goes through your mind.
00:28:23
Faith Pezzulo
of of the mom. Oh, of the mom. I just want to know. I'm like, I don't know. There's a lot of thoughts because on the one hand, I want to think what happened to them to make them so jaded or just so like what happened to them that they would think this is OK. You are even acceptable.
00:28:46
Faith Pezzulo
I mean, that's where a part of my mind goes. But on the other hand, like, in the same second, there's nothing that could have happened to you that justifies you perpetuating the same damage to your child. Like, quite frankly, there are several better options stealing.
00:29:04
Faith Pezzulo
Yeah, that's your sentence, too. I'm just saying. Yeah, like you steal what you need. Go clean floors. Like do what you got. Sell plasma. Do there's several. You've got other options. Are you know what? Give them to a family that can't have kids that will help. Yeah. Like there's so many options. I mean, I know in other countries, there's not like there's not quite the same as in America, but at the same time,
00:29:29
Faith Pezzulo
There's stuff out there. Do there's anything, anything else? Anything. Go, go, go your own fruit. Yeah. Go find a field and kill a wild animal. I don't care. Yeah. There's other options. Selling your child is not ever a viable option. I agree. Ever. Like there's nothing there's nothing you can do to justify it. And I just want to know how like and the other part of me, that was my question. So just as I was sitting there thinking to myself, like, how do you get to that place?
00:29:59
Faith Pezzulo
where you could be so selfish and so damaged. I'm not even going to call it damaged because I feel like it's a selfish thing. Oh, yeah. I don't want to make any sacrifices. So I'm just going to sell my kids for sex. I'm going to make you make exactly like I don't know how and you if anybody else has an opinion about that, please let me know because I really can't wrap my head around it. I really can't.
00:30:27
Faith Pezzulo
Is it culture? Is it saying, well, I mean, everybody's pretty much desensitized to sex at this point, right? Like at every, every single culture, every single continent, every single major town and even minor town. It's not just an American thing or everything. Everywhere people are selling their children. Yeah. Just took national people. Yeah. Whoever do whatever you want with them. I just.
00:30:57
Faith Pezzulo
I don't know. I have no words. Yep. Neither did I when I was going through and I was reading this and watching this documentary actually just pisses me off because there are people like that who can pop out 10 kids yeah and will literally sell them for people to sexually and physically abuse so they can go get drugs. And you've got good people who just can't get pregnant.
00:31:23
Faith Pezzulo
Yeah, who would love to take care of a child would do any would sell their organs Yeah to have a baby and they can't and it that that's what always sticks out with me is and you can have a kid Yeah, like I know it's a selfish thought and you know, well, I mean, I don't I don't disagree with that statement at all It's like you really think you can't take care of your kid
00:31:47
Faith Pezzulo
You know, that's what pisses me off. People like that, that'll do those things, can just pop out babies every year. And people who would take such good care of that kid can't have one. And it just doesn't make logical sense to me. It's true. And it infuriates me. But I digress. No, I agree with you 100%. Why ask the question? For me, it's just something that I can't wrap my head around.
00:32:12
Faith Pezzulo
It will not make sense to me. It cannot make sense to me. you You can't. I don't. I really don't think even if I was sitting across from somebody, a mother who was trying to please let me sit across from her. So as she sat there and tried to convince me that that was her only option. Sure, but I don't care what what just let me. I mean, I'm thinking like, OK. I don't. Yeah, I don't want to say it that's dark. That's just dark. I'm not going to say that statement that just came across my mind.
00:32:40
Faith Pezzulo
But anyways, huh, it's a nice self editing. Thank you. I appreciate it. Let's work for me later. Well played. Well played. So the documentary just starts wrapping up after with Marie, because basically they lost track of Jolene and her mom. So she has now basically gone and they can't find her. So did they they found him, though, right?
Emotional Toll on Law Enforcement
00:33:06
Faith Pezzulo
They arrested the boyfriend and he didn't give up the mom.
00:33:12
Faith Pezzulo
You would think he would have. Don't think he cares. But although if they give up the mom and they have the kid, they have her testimony against him in a nutshell, then, you know, where's the money maker? That's going to bail him out of jail. Right. Right. So I'm just saying, oh, I hate people. So there were a few other documentaries that I had actually gone through. ah One was a guy who worked for freedoms, freedom something. I don't remember what it was.
00:33:39
Faith Pezzulo
I didn't write all this down because the main story was Jolene. I just want to kind of give you like a take on what that story was about and that what other people are doing. Yeah. So we talked about a 21 campaign. There's another one out there. I'll go back and we can post all of them in the links. But there was a good interview. I watched for like an hour and a half. And it was a guy who was trained in the military as like
00:34:04
Faith Pezzulo
technical forces or something. It's basically like, you know, a geek. Yeah. But he's he's no geek. He could definitely probably rip off some faces. And so he ended up sitting down and doing this because he he but put in for his retirement because he was like, I would never be able to sit down and do this because I am on the ground in these scenarios. And the moment I show my face, I can never go back undercover again. Yeah. In a nutshell, he starts telling stories about how he got where he got and um the training that and and things that he had to go through. And he was talking about having to watch these videos. Nope. And he was like. I can't explain to you what it does to your mind. Oh, he's like I. Just it's sickening. Yeah. And he said, you know, as
00:34:55
Faith Pezzulo
A lot of the other guys that are on our team are all ex-military and the first thought they have, and they have to be trained out of this when they start working for these ah nonprofits and people trying to do these rescues, is a lot of these guys are ex-law enforcement.
00:35:09
Faith Pezzulo
OK, so whether on it's oh yeah whether it's some kind of armed military force or it's another way we're called. Yeah. First thing they want to do is shoot these people in the face or beat the hell out of them. Right. And they they literally I want it to be elongated punishment. Yeah. But they ah they yeah they actually have to like detrain them to react to scenarios when they're out and they're trying to rescue these guys. Right. It out there. I have no military background.
00:35:37
Faith Pezzulo
I have no police background or special ah background or any background in the enforcement. Yes. You could not deep program me for not if I found them on the street, not beating them to an inch of their life, letting them recover and okay over and over again. But here's his response to that. He said, yeah, it would feel better if we just took him out. Yeah, would. But then what about all the kids he has that we don't know where they're at? He's never going to give those kids up.
00:36:06
Faith Pezzulo
But here's the thing, that's how they get where they get, step by step, right? yeah and so And so, but he was talking a lot about i'm just basically telling these guys, like, you program we have to infiltrate like the worst of the worst. So the guy that was doing the interview asked him, he said, you know, can I just ask you, what's it like in your, like, in your everyday life, like your day to day with your family? He's like, I literally have to be two different people. He said, that's she, and that was like the biggest thing is he, that's what he said. He's like, I have to be two different people.
00:36:36
Faith Pezzulo
because I can't be the guy around my children that I am when I'm the guy that has to go to work. no And then I sat there and I really like kind of took that to heart and I was like,
00:36:51
Faith Pezzulo
These guys are really out there making a sacrifice. Yeah, not just physically. No, mentally, mentally, more mentally than physically. And he said you he's literally like he's like hours in this basically call on himself. Yeah.
00:37:07
Faith Pezzulo
yeah Anything like their mint. I mean, I don't see how at some point you don't like I mean, I know this is extreme, but I don't see how you don't break and form to completely separate identity Oh meaning like like a yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay are how it used to be turned multiple personalities how you can't because you have dissociative you have to protect your family self from your work It's not even just your family. So just how do you protect your own brain? You can't like like did just opening yourself up to I mean, have you ever just sat there like in the middle of just anything and had a thought of something that happened like, I don't know, three years ago and you're like, oh, why am I thinking about that? Yeah, all the time.
00:37:53
Faith Pezzulo
Hello. Yeah. And they've got like images of our to their freaking brain because they have to watch the same. Like I've watched documentary similar. They have to watch the same video over and over to see if they notice anything out the windows yep on the wall. Any reflection or any. Yep. Any any background sound. So they're watching the same horrific image more than once. Yeah. And they're paying detailed close attention.
00:38:19
Faith Pezzulo
Yeah, like they're trying to catalog everything and they do catalog and they have to. yeah And so you can't miss a second. No. So you hear this kid screaming and crying over and over. I don't know how you don't break. No, I could. There's no way. There's no way. You know, as much as I would say, oh, yeah, I'd get involved and I'd do whatever. No, I wouldn't. I don't think I could.
00:38:46
Faith Pezzulo
mentally. I don't think I could. I bet off as enough as I am just with this podcast. There's no way if I had to see like actual footage. I could do it. No, I'd be puking my guts out. I don't know how. I would be in a dark room in the fetal position for the rest of my life. so Right. Yeah. If if I didn't slit my wrist. Begging God for fire and brimstone. Yeah. On these people's lives. Oh, yeah. Because what else I mean?
00:39:10
Faith Pezzulo
Because even if you rescue one, how many others have you seen that you didn't get like you just you can't do enough? No. Like I honestly feel like you would have to have no family, no friends and no life. Yeah. Because if you had any of those things, you couldn't afterwards. Because every time you go to dinner, like, ah you know, you go to an hour dinner, how many how many minutes?
00:39:37
Faith Pezzulo
of footage because you have seen what kid could you have saved during this? You know, yeah, i like the constant mindset, like everything you do is how many kids are being harmed while I'm out here living my life. Yeah. And then retiring. Like, how do you retire from that? You don't. You don't. You don't. And that's. And that goes without saying to anybody that's retired officer, that's seen something because I'm not saying that this is only in regards to kids. I'm just saying. Oh, OK. Yeah. All right. I'm sorry. I am going to categorize what I think is the worst. And it's always going to be a kid, a kid, because the race. Yeah. Kid and rape right after. Yeah. But they're still adults. OK. Adults can process things a little bit better than the kids.
00:40:24
Faith Pezzulo
Yeah. And when you look at a kid, especially.
00:40:29
Faith Pezzulo
Tiny, they're vulnerable, they don't know. And to be OK, I get like women are vulnerable, but it's not the same thing. they ah They're aware and they know that what's happening is wrong. OK. Yeah. These kids are getting just. Literally tortured out of their ah out of their childhood.
00:40:50
Faith Pezzulo
Their innocence is freaking gone. And the sad thing is some of them don't realize that this isn't the way
Raising Public Awareness on Trafficking
00:40:57
Faith Pezzulo
it's supposed to be. Yeah, because they grew up that way. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's.
00:41:05
Faith Pezzulo
I was other things that I was seeing in some of these other areas where pink curtains for girls, blue curtains for boys type of areas in the world. Like that's just their everyday life. And they're like I said, there were quite a few documentaries that I've watched. Oh, yeah. I've watched some that were actually I almost was 100 percent sure you were going to share one that I watched. I was going to be pissed because I've got it's it. It's it's it's one that I'll eventually share. I've seen the documentary, but Well, I got sucked into a doctor a documentary at lunch today. I needed I needed a full mental break. So I didn't actually like sit and do work while I was eating. What's that like? And it just popped up. it It was. A lot of the same. Yeah, because I'm still trying to do what I'm doing on my lunch break, but so people ask me questions.
00:41:54
Faith Pezzulo
um But it popped up on YouTube because I'm sure because of all the searches that I've already done. Algorithms. And I only got about 15 minutes into it. And it was dropped in 1997. This documentary, the guy's name was Edward. Right. And that's all they called him. Yeah. um But he was talking about all the guys that he knew and the videos that he'd seen. And he was trying to get these guys like in trouble. And I guess he was a gay man in the scene back then who the two were kind of hand in hand and
00:42:26
Faith Pezzulo
You know, it's still the the come up as an acceptance of of of homosexuality at that time. But you know, you're still going to find other people in your scene that aren't exactly, you know. Yeah.
00:42:37
Faith Pezzulo
up to par, right? Right. There's there's bad people in every genre, every religion and everything. He was really bringing like some hardcore truths as to what he was seeing. And nobody believed him. Oh, yeah, no. And I mean, this is this is happening on fucking VHS. It's it's easier just to say it doesn't exist than actually examine.
00:42:58
Faith Pezzulo
Because if you but if you if you understand the deal, here's the deal. If you understand and you truly believe that child sex, slavery and child human trafficking exists. Yeah. How do you do nothing? So one of the guys, one of the officers that was talking about in that one that I've not finished yet. Yeah. He said something that made perfect sense. And he was like, it's not something that's discussed because they call it like smut or You know, child pornography, right? Mm hmm. But it's kind of like what the average brain considers that to be. Yeah. But it's not reality. No, it's not actually what's happening to these kids. Yeah. OK, this is not like it's a horrible innocent child baby. Yeah, I just it's.
00:43:51
Faith Pezzulo
When I thought about it that way, you're like, yeah, OK, so you say, oh, yeah, a child pornography. What the kids naked in a bathtub? Yeah. OK, that's not what we're talking about. And I think that's where the split comes in. I think it's what your mind will allow you to to think it's, you know, it's kind of like someone who's been through like trauma in their past, like horrific trauma in their past. And they dissociate from it a little bit. And it happened to a friend or happened. You heard a story once, but it didn't happen to you.
00:44:20
Faith Pezzulo
And I think that's how our mind kind of protects us is it's, you know, and when you hear the word, you know, like you said, child pornography, it is just, you know, indecent pictures, not the rape of a three year old.
00:44:34
Faith Pezzulo
correct
00:44:36
Faith Pezzulo
And you you know, you hear smut and it's just it's a story, right? It's not, you know, the real life telling of what a five year old was because your mind doesn't want like we want to believe it's like it's the same reason why when somebody dies, everybody, they were the best. They lit up the room. No, they didn't. You hated the ground. She walked on. Yeah. But our mind always want as negative as people tend to be. You still want to believe the best.
00:45:04
Faith Pezzulo
Yeah, especially in a situation like that, you don't you don't want to hear that that that kind of evil exists. I don't I don't know how you go to sleep at night.
00:45:17
Faith Pezzulo
knowing like it's it's so hard like I mean I'm out I'll tell him myself here before we go to bed every single night I check every freaking window in my house yeah make sure every single door is locked and I mean on my child's bedroom like I put all the force I can into her window to make sure it can't open And even though there's an alarm on her window, like you open her window, it freaking blares. And quite frankly, if anyone goes in that room, they're going to meet a Rottweiler that's pissed off because if you go near my kid, the dog is absolutely furious.
00:45:50
Faith Pezzulo
But it's still like and I'll wake up every time because I i can't sleep anymore. But I wake up several times through the night and I go straight to her room to make sure she's there. Check under her bed. Check the window again. Check the closet like it's it's an upset like it's an OC. I think I was just going to say but it sounds more to me like you're obsessing at this point. Well, it is like, I mean, I am obsessing to a degree, but I'm so you can't i mean I was looking on Facebook this morning, just as I was waking up, just flipping through Facebook and they found a freaking kid yesterday morning, ah a newborn. Yeah. In Tennessee. They're showing you the shirt he was wrapped up in because the baby was thrown like behind a dumpster. And it was a baby that was like three hours old, left to die in the elements.
00:46:35
Faith Pezzulo
It's cold now and I'm in leggings, two pairs of socks, a long sleeve t-shirt and a puff jacket. And I'm freezing my butt off and I'm sitting in a garage. And that infant that was only a few minutes old was thrown behind a dumpster. And they're trying to identify who it is. like I feel the same way. Yeah, I feel the same way because I was saying like it's all these little blurbs of 72 people were arrested for human trafficking. It's like. And it's you know, it's both Amber works everywhere. Oh, yeah, they we they did a it now. This is this is this has been like five years ago because Bella was.
00:47:10
Faith Pezzulo
either right before kindergarten or kindergarten and they did an underage sting operation here locally in Knoxville, Tennessee. And there were a bunch of people busted and one of them was one of my clients. so I didn't know about it because I, again, you have to search high and low to even get the blip that the underage sting operation happened. Yeah.
00:47:33
Faith Pezzulo
But his wife called in because we did his commercial and personal, called in to his personal and was like, take him off everything. I'm divorcing him. Take his cars off. Rewrite everything. Wow. And told the personal lines account manager what happened. He got busted in an underage thing. He thought he was going to be the 12 year old.
00:47:51
Faith Pezzulo
So of course my coworker calls me and she's like, Oh my gosh, did you know so? I, and this guy, I mean, I have spent hours with, cause anytime he came into my office, he'd literally sit and talk to me for like an hour or two. Nicest guy in the world. I wanted my boss's office. I gave the account information and his name. And I said, I just want you to know, he got busted in an under-age thing operation. I will not manage his account and I'll work on his account. Fire him if you want to. And my boss sent him an email that day, even though the guy was in prison still saying, you know, welcome to our office. We're having all your policies canceled. Go wherever you want to. we would But yeah, no, my boss is good and put anything but like this is the least of the worst things that should happen to that guy. This is this is a guy that I again have spent hours with who sat next to all my daughter's photos in my office.
00:48:38
Faith Pezzulo
And so that's kind of like I watched a lot of shoe crime a lot of you know fake crime SVU whatnot like I watch all this stuff I feel my head with i still think crab is based on real a hundred percent it is I watched episode the other day and I was like I know what case this is based off of right yeah um But ah you know I do feel my head with all this crap I get that but then there's real life scenarios that make you paranoid when you have a child especially when it hits close to home because then I don't know I It was years ago now, but the hotel in right up the road for more. Uh-huh. That they got. Yeah. had Human trafficking, literally, you know, them talk about Turkey Creek all the time. There's only stories running around Turkey. Oh, I know. This way to go either their way. Yeah, because it's connected to so many highways. I know. I personally know people who have been with their kids at Turkey Creek and the kid was almost snatched. Yeah. Like.
00:49:27
Faith Pezzulo
You're kidding. So you never told me about that. Oh, yeah. No, she was in a crafting store, let's say, in Turkey Creek. OK. And maybe you did tell me about. Yeah. Some guy like grabbed the kid and she just held on and started screaming. Yeah. I mean, I've been with Bella at just the frickin Walmart, not in Turkey Creek, but at the Walmart. And some guys follow us around to where I've gone and got someone to walk us to our car. Well, she doesn't go shopping with me anymore. Frankie's nothing. Yeah. But so I wasn't Brian doesn't let me go shopping or to the gas station or anything by myself. It's.
00:49:57
Faith Pezzulo
You're marrying your father. um He's right behind you. I know. Yes. But but no, I mean, there's been so many scenarios. Yes. Just weird freaking people. So you can. So yes. So I'm sorry. I don't care that you want to come with me to Wal-Mart. It's slightly obsessive. I get that.
00:50:15
Faith Pezzulo
But you can't hear and see and have dealt with the things that we've seen heard or dealt with True and fictional and it not have an impact on your life. It is true So because that's any noise any noise I hear downstairs. I'm immediately like grabbing little little something something, right? So dagger out that that's me. Imagine these people going after How do you separate?
00:50:40
Faith Pezzulo
No, that's what I don't. don't understand how you can. I'm going to tell you what, like, I mean, heroes isn't even a good word to describe the the men and women who torture themselves. Yeah. To try to find people like this, the men and women that have to sit and listen to these stories. Oh, yeah. Try to give these kids any kind of help guidance. Yeah. Help relief from any of what they feel. Yeah. Especially the kids old enough to know.
00:51:07
Faith Pezzulo
Any, yeah, I just, yeah, this is, I'm gonna sleep with my child tonight. Yeah. For probably the rest of the week. Oh, wow. Like I said, there are so many other ones. I'll, I'll send you a list of the, some of the ones that I had watched. Yeah, send me the links and I'll post them in the show. Because there was another one. Pretty one else that wants to ruin their mental cavity as well. But you know what? I'm sorry, but if it stays in the dark,
00:51:33
Faith Pezzulo
yep and nobody brings it to light, then the topic doesn't get discussed and it needs to be. And quite frankly, you got to rub the crap in people's face to get them to go clean out the yard. Yeah. Because until everyone just admits this is happening and this is a problem, we need to fix it. It's going to continue to be a problem that everyone wants. So stop not talking about that. This is a real issue.
00:51:59
Faith Pezzulo
You know what I mean? If you see those news clips run across your TikTok or your Facebook or whatever, start sharing it, man. Yep. Because no one likes it. I think there was like um it was during the the last.
00:52:12
Faith Pezzulo
ah Trump rallies and election and stuff where that it was like this. It was overtaking everything that was happening with the election. And it was just called Save the Kids. And it was people protesting. Save the kids. Save the kids. But again, they got like a blurb. but Right. And I'm sure I know a lot of that was based on conspiracy, right? Because people were watching. It's only conspiracy until you can prove it. That's true. But like but I'm saying like the only, you know, they they just everybody was cuckoo for cocoa pots and they're only doing that based off pizza gate, whatever, whatever.
00:52:48
Faith Pezzulo
OK, it doesn't matter what the cause is or what started you don't just stop it, right? It's it is happening, right? It may not be Bill Gates. OK, but right. This is happening to kids around the world. It's happening to. You know, people next door. Mm hmm.
00:53:08
Faith Pezzulo
And not to mention the fact. And I'm going to say it before we end the podcast, all these slap on the wrist, one, two, three, four years of prison for these ass hats. That's got to stop. Agree. That's got to stop. They shouldn't ever get out. Do me a favor and release the little weed smokers from prison. Right. Because it's freaking weed and nobody cares. OK. And sentence these guys to some real time. Yeah.
00:53:36
Faith Pezzulo
It's like, you know, they'll say it best, right? I mean, you go into prison and they're not rehabilitated from anything. As a matter of fact, they're going to come out worse. No, 100 percent. I don't know how to do that. But what did my uncle used to say? Dead people don't can't press charges. Yeah. Anyway, well.
00:53:58
Faith Pezzulo
There's there's our story. That's our story. Mm hmm. Sorry.
00:54:05
Faith Pezzulo
It's got to be said, it's got to be shared. Oh, before we go, I'll have to find which network I was watching it on. But I thought it was something that you and I should definitely get into. What? But it was historical.
Ending on a Lighter Note: Conspiracy Theories
00:54:19
Faith Pezzulo
Is this one of your? OK, so side note, I was going to ask if it was one of your final foot. Can I finish what I was saying first and then you can side note me. Hey, we're done with the episode. If you if you guys want to turn this out, this is this is personal stupid. Yeah, that we listen to. but i So it's historical tortures methods. I saw that. Did you see it? Oh, I watched like the first one and I was like, OK, I always thought the guillotine was kind of like a nice way to go.
00:54:48
Faith Pezzulo
It is not Nothing back then was a nice way to go. No, I think we should watch that series and tie in which punishment We think they should get right. That shall be that shall be the way we end every podcast All right. Is it the guillotine? Is it the golden eagle? Is it like ah the pair of despair? so Here's my thing I forgot to tell you about that I got really excited about because you know, you're me I'm a bigfoot. Hey, sometimes you just need some conspiracy in your life you got Even Bigfoot and you watched Bigfoot finding people on 100% you I don't believe in Bigfoot. I just want to see here's they go to find this thing When we're when we we're at Disney for my birthday um It's me my mom your brother and Bella and we earn a line I think for Guardians of the Galaxy ride okay, and so we're just sitting there chit-chatting cuz it was kind of a long line and my mom's like oh my gosh did you know that there are people that look for Bigfoot and watch Bigfoot documentaries like in real life faith like they honestly believe that and I literally am laying on the ground.
00:55:49
Faith Pezzulo
Damn your mom's judgy. I'm laughing. I'm crying and my mom is like looking to me like I've lost my dang mind and I'm like And frankie just literally and my life in Bigfoot I watch everything on the animal planet, okay 72 dangerous house like my favorite show Lisa I have watched a lot of whats a lot of it. Yeah. But my mom had never heard of it and was like amazed that there were people out there. And when I were one of them, like her face, i I couldn't see it through the tears. I mean, I cannot stress you.
00:56:35
Faith Pezzulo
Wheeze laughing like I am gonna send a group text to you Frankie and your mom and be like Just hangs his head and he was like I he goes how am I related to these people? My mom was like I've met my brother that i She could not but she was so shocked Yeah, there are people out there that believe they're Bigfoot and that's me told her you were one and I completely forgot to tell you You're the worst human being ever. Oh, no, dude you know what there were self-fun and games so they find bigfoot okay yes sure cool there's aliens too they confirmed that already oh that is a ploy to put your mind off of them human trafficking kits anyway sorry all right well at least we ended on a happy note we did end on a happy note you and your bigfoot people me and my bigfoot people and
00:57:27
Faith Pezzulo
and multiple ways to torture that we need to watch. We didn't need to watch that. I thought i meant to text you when I saw it on like a commercial because that's when we first talked about do when I tried to talk into doing this podcast with me back in the day. Yeah. I was like, oh my. And you we because we're trying to figure out a name. Yes. And I wish you'd have thought about the pair of despair because that right. had been Yeah. We'd have been the pair of despair.
00:57:50
Faith Pezzulo
that anybody who just joined us that was a, uh, what do they call it? Totally pronounced what I was trying to say. Um, but yeah, pair to spare kind of stuck. We like it. I can't even think of the real term anymore. Well, we still never did the Parthenon.
00:58:10
Faith Pezzulo
Uh-huh, it's gonna be the part that's on forever. Actually, it's set up, I just haven't made it go live. Well, you know I mean, you only record- Well, I mean, you only super commit to all of this. We only record once every three months. Dude, you know, you ask. last time and you were like, hey, are you ready to record? Hey, you ready? Ready when you are. And you're like, OK, let me know when you're ready. It's your episode. No, the last time I called you out and I was like, well, if you're ready and you were like, what do you mean if I'm ready? And I was like, dude, I did the last one when I thought it was you. that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK, I'll give you that. I'm not the only tool in this toolbox. OK, there's a lot of there's a lot of us. Well, thanks for tuning in.
00:58:49
Faith Pezzulo
I am going to go home and go check my locks and windows. Yeah, I am going to go and actually I'm going to go try to get filling back my feet. Yeah, it's really cold. We're supposed to get more snow this weekend. So I better go get all my milk and bread. It's not there. It's not. They never They never stopped. All right, guys, stay warm. Have a great night and we'll talk to you later. Have a good one. by Bye.