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Stranger Things Season 4
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Welcome to Fright Central
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right. Welcome back to Fright Central. I'm Doc and I'm back here again with Keck. How you doing, buddy? And what's going on, man? Fuck that up. That you always do like that stutter thing in the beginning. And I had like a whole like zinger plan for like how it's going to block you and you didn't fuck it up. All right. So that's why I took that deep breath. I'm all right, man. I'm all right. How have you been?
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Welcome to the light.
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Yeah, good, good.
Stranger Things Season 4 Deep Dive
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I just got a few things news wise before we get into our topic tonight, which will be Stranger Things season four. There will be spoilers. So watch the show then come back. We're not going to do like too deep of a dive or like, you know, Easter eggs and shit like that. But our basis, basic, basic talk about it.
Salem's Lot Remake Postponement
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But news wise, the Salem's Rock
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Salem's Lot remake that was... So that would be fucking cool if it was like Salem's Lot, it's now Salem's Rock. Salem's Lot, yeah. Salem's Lot 2, Salem's Rock. It'd be a sub-pilot, you know what I mean? Yeah, but that was supposed to come out September of this year, it's got pushed back to April next year. Salem's Lot, was it going to be another miniseries or is it a movie remake? I believe it was a movie because it was pushed from
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movies, you know, from the theater released September 9th, got moved to April 21st. So that sucks because I was looking forward to that one coming out on the Halloween season. Well, the get like pumped up for watch the miniseries with Rob Lowe and Donald Southerland. I'm sure I will before it comes out. Yeah, if you're just trying to like get real sales off because like the original two movies they made, I think in
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when then i think they might have been both in the nineteen seventies but they were they left a lot to be desired so anyway moving on. So they're supposed to be remember the castle rock with that second season was kind of loosely uh salem's lot ish as well you know it was like taking different stories from king yeah misery i think like part of that was like salem's lot as well so i thought that was pretty well done but
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Yeah, I know they're supposed to be Jerusalem's Lot, which is like the prequel to Salem's Lot. Well, that's what the Rob Lowe miniseries was. He never refers to it as Salem's Lot. No, I mean, I think there's another, yeah, there was another prequel movie coming out as well. But I haven't heard any updates on that recently, unless it's already out loud. And it was terrible. I have no idea.
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I haven't paid that much attention.
New Aliens Game Announcement
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But yeah, anyway, the Aliens franchise is getting a single player action horror treatment for consoles, PC and VR. Wait, did you play the Alien Isolation here? No, along with the Xbox where it kind of takes you. Oh, yeah, you're going to want either the a new Xbox or a new PlayStation so that you have
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unless you have like a Kinect set up at your house. I have a Kinect set up. Yeah. All right. So if you have a Kinect set up, you're good because it's all it detects decibel sound. It detects motion and stuff like that. And the newest systems are already out for it to do that. So if you already have that, you're good. Great fucking game. Great fucking game. This game is supposed to take place between one and two and you're supposed to play like a Marine.
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Yeah, like more of a first person. So it's going to be like a dude type thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it seems like. Instead of like hiding from the alien, you're going in and shooting at it. But for VR, like, I mean, like I've seen some of that Walking Dead VR, which looks fucking terrifying. You saw that you saw the alien isolation VR thing, too. You saw that as well. Was that VR? They have they have a VR option for the game.
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Oh, so yeah, you can do it like regular calls so you can do it in like VR. But I hear there's a lot of bugs in the VR experience because it's not like an official thing. It's something like somebody like took the source code for. But like apparently a lot of people like really like it. They said it's like very well made. It's just not like something that was like done officially by like the developer.
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or something. Yeah, I was gonna say because that came out before like VR was like getting bigger. Exactly. So, you know, it might leave something to be desired.
True Detective: Night Country Teaser
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But anyway, I don't know if we talked about this before, if I mentioned it, but there's another season of True Detective coming out. I actually did not know that. I thought season three, what they were calling it. I thought it was the end of the thing. I thought they were starting something else.
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So it's just going to be true detective season four and just move on to another topic. True detective. Night country. It's with Jodie Foster. Oh, nice. And it's going to center around detectives who are looking for to solve a case of six men who operate in an Arctic research station vanishing without a trace. This sounds very the thingish. Well, I mean, we know, I mean, seeing Jodie Foster like play like law enforcement or like federal agent, you know,
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iconic role, Silence of the Lambs. So I mean, you know, that she definitely, uh, knows how to like fit that character real well. So, I mean, you're going to be thinking Silence of the Lambs when you watch Jodie Foster as like law enforcement agent.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward to a new season of True Detective. I mean, I just rewatched Mine Hunter season two. Yeah, great. But then, of course, shortly after that, I saw a black phone and I kind of wanted that to just be, you know, more like realistic ground it.
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stuff without any supernatural elements to it. So I was a little disappointed there. I was like, man, you take all the supernatural stuff out of this and this could be a cool true detective Mine Hunters type of serial killer series.
The Uncertain Future of Mindhunter
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Mine Hunter is my not just favorite suspense horror
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Like it's basically my favorite in recent years mine hunter I would say since like 2015 mine hunter has been my favorite series that I've watched on television and I've been really jonesing for a third season which Apparently they announced then they like walked that back and said now we don't know and now I'm not sure where it's
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It all depends on when David Fincher's, you know, yeah, he's up, but he wants to do it and they haven't technically canceled it. So when. Yeah, if I was going to lean one way, I think it's going to happen. Yeah. But like, you know, if I were to be a gambling man, I was going to say like it is or it isn't.
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I would say I'm leaning towards it's probably going to happen, but it's just a matter of when, because now we're really stretching it off. When was season two? When did that end?
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It's been like three years, probably like 2019, probably. Yes. So now we're getting to a point where if they can't figure it out, like very soon, then, you know, maybe the odds will
Review of Penny Dreadful: City of Angels
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like increase because then it would be like basically making a whole new thing. Cause you know, once you get like over four years, like, you know what I mean? Like if it doesn't, if they all announced by 2023, then I'm going to be skeptical of whether or not it's going to happen.
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Yeah, there was another show that I watched recently, and I'm not going to read you, I'm not going to tell you what the show is first, but I'm going to tell you what the plot line is and tell me this doesn't sound like a true detective or mine hunters series. So when a grizzly murder shocks Los Angeles in 1938, Detective Vega and his partner, Mitchner, become embroiled in an epic story that reflects the troubled history of the city.
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Does that not sound like a true detective type? Yeah. And detective Vega, I've heard that name before. I've heard detective Vega before. Maybe I'm thinking of Lieutenant Vega from Mass Effect. I don't know. I feel like I heard from Paul Fiction, the Vega brothers. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not Vega from Paul Fiction. I'm feeling like I watched something recently where there was a detective Vega, but I could have been thinking of Lieutenant Vega. I don't know. But it was actually Penny Dreadful, City of Angels.
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Oh, cool. Yeah. And if they take all the supernatural out of that, that that could have been easily a true detective fucking show. Because I think all the supernatural in that show was kind of dumb. But like the you mentioned that you said you liked like the mystery suspense detective element of it.
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But you said that, um, you could have actually just done without like the whole super natural aspect altogether. Yeah. Again, it could have also been because I just watched my hunter. So I was in that mindset of that's all I want. And you were, you were hoping for something a little bit more serious and a little less surreal. Yeah. I think that might've influenced my, you know, viewing of this and my influence, my view of black phone as well. So yeah. Yeah.
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Well Mindhunter is just so well done like every aspect from the new. Just the music is also perfect. A lot of it's just two guys in a room talking and it's so captivating like what they're doing.
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It's such a suspenseful thing because for the first episode, I hated the actor that played Holden. I was like, he's just too much of like a pussy. Like, I just don't, I don't see someone as lame and as like, you know, kind of like socially awkward as his character was at first.
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I can't see him being someone that would be able to stomach this type of work. Like, you know, I mean, he seemed very green, very young, like a little boy, like it just didn't seem like it would be serious. But I don't know his character quickly grew on me, like his personality, like issues, like sort of grew on me. And I was like, Oh, wow, he's actually perfect for this. Yeah. So yeah.
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Well, yeah, that's that's all I had to say about that. But yeah, I could get talking on mine. Sorry. I didn't like I said, so I could just go on a whole fucking couple of hours talking mindhunter and
Ghostbusters Afterlife Sequel News
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shit. So moving. Yeah. So Ghostbusters Afterlife did well enough to get a sequel. And that's no. Wow. They're getting the sequel to that. Yep. It's scheduled to hit theaters next December. So they've already have a date for it.
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No, no other announcements have really been made. I think Ernie Hudson is supposed to have a bigger role going forward in the franchise. But other than that, I don't know if any other original cast members are coming back or, you know, member. I'm sure there'll be people from afterlife coming back in it if they're doing a drill. It's going to have you think it's going to have that same family come back into it. I don't know. I was going to go somewhere else because
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Well, getting the kid from after that was in Ghostbusters Afterlife, who's also in Stranger Things season four. What's his name? Finn Wolfhard. That's his name. Yeah. Well, anyway, he looks like he aged a lot and looks like he might have been doing some heroin. That's my first impression of Stranger Things season four.
Stranger Things Season 4: Aging Characters
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When I saw his character, I was just like, damn, dude.
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Like, I mean, he already, he was always a very slim guy, but this, like, I was just like, I don't know. He wasn't really in it very much. So, you know, he like, wasn't like a central character this time around. He looked like he might've done some heroin.
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Yeah, I think the whole cast, like the first thing I thought was pretty shocking that they all looked like they aged like three or four years. Most of them. Yeah. He did not look like he aged that much. The kid that's missing teeth. Lucas looked like he got real jacked.
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Uh, you know, the basketball player who was running with, he looked like he got like a little bit big. I don't know. Um, I had read that they actually were trying to make him look younger. They were talking about, they were trying to make him look younger in this one, but see the one, the first observation of stranger things that I had was you had told me at first that it took place in California, Russia.
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and back in Hawkins, Indiana. And I had initially thought that it went from Hawkins into California and then into Russia. That's what I initially thought. But you explained to me that obviously it's happening concurrently. Now, the Russia thing
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and the California thing, as you rightly pointed out, they had nothing to do with really the central story. You can argue that it all reconvened at the end, but at the very last 20 minutes. The last two episodes, the Russia thing finally became relevant.
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And then like the California thing finally become relevant, like the last episode, you know? Yeah. So like why on the writer's character and her partner, what was his name in the, uh, in stranger things. I can't even think of his name. The conspiracy guy Murray. No, uh, the doubt was in prison in Russia.
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Popper Popper and why on the rider like they have really nothing to do with like the central plot of that's why I was saying they should have just killed him off last season when they had the chance and they could have also killed off. They could have also killed off. I can't think of his name.
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Why don't you bring up the cast list so you can look at it while we're talking about it? I can't I can't remember. I can't remember. I'm trying to think of their names, but these are people that weren't like really in it, like Steve, Dustin, the metal dude. I don't I don't know any of the character names. I just wasn't really paying attention to it. But like half of the characters of Stranger Things that were like regular characters
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in the first three seasons, they basically are not like really even part of season four. They got really involved in a totally separate side story and they're not tied to the central event. So rather than like
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name each character that's part of it. I'm just going to say half the character, like everybody that was in it, except for Billy, in the first three seasons, like only half of those characters are actually tied to the central plot in this
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So like Hopper and why I'm the writer, they are totally separate and fucking will. And the kid that gets sucked into the upside down in the he's the one that really looks like I didn't even know who the fuck he was. Yeah, I didn't know the same haircut. Yeah, he had. That's all he had. Yeah. Like he I did not know who he is, who he was. But, you know,
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him and uh i'll tell you right now how about this i'll go through the list the name who was where you try to guess who these fucking actors names are well let's start with uh this i'm not going for actors names i'm going for character yeah i mean i'll tell you the characters names this season takes place like the last season took place in july this season takes place the following spring so they've gone from middle school now to
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freshman in high school, but they all look like there are seniors in high school now. Yeah, you know, and the people that are that have done look like there are seniors in high school. Others really did not look like they aged up. Yeah, yeah, but let's see Jim Hopper is in Russia from the last season. Then you have. He has nothing to do with the main theme. Yeah, then you have 11 who's in California.
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Jonathan Byers, who's in California, Will Byers, who's in California, and Joyce Byers, who are in California. Then everyone else is in Hawkins, but then Mike flies out to California to go visit Eleven.
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and Mike and Will. They have nothing to do with the story. And Jonathan was supposed to fly the Hawkins to visit Nancy, but he doesn't. He stays there. And he's been like getting high with this pizza dude the entire time. Who I do not want to talk like he was like that pizza guy was the worst part of this season. I did not stand his personality. So
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You know, so yeah, hold on. Let me let me finish the. So then that crew over there like 11 kind of gets in a little bit of trouble with this girl at school and then she like is being hunted by like the the government because they think she's the one that's causing these things to happen in Hawkins.
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So then she gets picked back up by Paul Reiser and Matthew Modine, who I thought was dead, but apparently he wasn't. They go to like this secret base down the desert to help Eleven get her powers back by going through like this memory retrogression thing. And then everybody else
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like didn't like everybody else out in California was just trying to like get to her I mean there was one cool scene when the military raided the house I thought that was a cool scene but other than that like yeah they don't do anything until they find I mean they meet up with Dustin's girlfriend at one point
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And then they then they continue on. They finally catch up with 11 and then they go and to a separate. Everybody's already seen this. Everybody knows. But you said you skipped a lot of that. So I was trying to explain what was happening. No, I was able to get the gist of like what was going on. Yeah. I'm just saying the only thing I want to point out was Mike Joyce. Jonathan. Will.
00:19:13
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Yeah, I just said all those names and they said they were all in California and they have nothing to do with the show. Yeah, they had nothing to do with the show. Until the very end when they helped Eleven get in that deprivation tank so she can go fight Becknet. That was the only time. What I should have actually said was that Eleven, Dustin, Nancy, Steve, Max. Max was probably the most central character. Yeah, I agree with that. The most consequential character.
00:19:43
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And Lucas. And then Lucas's younger sister Erica as well. Yeah. Well, she doesn't really come into it until later on. But like those names I just mentioned, except for Lucas's sister, I don't think she was a very big part of it.
00:19:58
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The names of the characters I just mentioned come and help out. And she has more of a part of it than anybody in California or Russia. She has more. Yeah, no, that's great. Yeah, that's great. I'm saying she is not like a main character. No, no ones I just mentioned. Those are the main characters that have something to do with the central theme. Lucas's sister in the last two episodes, she does become a part of it. But the characters I just mentioned
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are absolutely integral to the central plot and take up the majority of screen time throughout the whole thing. There were several parts where I thought the California crew, like they hadn't even been mentioned in it in like two episodes. And I was like, oh, all right. So they're just not part of, you know what I mean? Like I thought they were just going to be in like the first couple episodes. Like I forgot they even existed.
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I thought they were going to handle all that California and Russia stuff by like the middle of the season and then they were yeah and they were all converted kind of like how the previous seasons were like they've all gone off kind of on their separate adventures
Critique of Stranger Things Subplots
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in the series but but by the end they've come back together to share information
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and fight the fight the big bad. And that doesn't happen. That's like, yeah, that's what never comes back in until the very end. Like almost like the post credit scene is when they come. Yeah, like that's exactly that's they had almost nothing to do with the central. Well, you know, why on the rider and Jim Hopper, they had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the central plot because they basically are post credit. They don't even see each other until the Hawkins situation.
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Well, if you want to say resolved, yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying until the season's writing has resolved. Yeah. So until everything, until everything has come to its conclusion, that's when they answer it. So they basically are post-credit. Well, let's talk about the main, the main story. The part that was actually interesting was the whole Vecna story. And it's, yeah, that was all right.
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has been totally resolved.
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And it was very nightmare on Elm Street was the first thing I took to and the fact that they got Robert England to do a cameo. Yeah. And he plays the father of Vecna who's the one manipulating people's minds. I thought that was nice. I don't think that was a coincidence.
00:22:28
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It's like the robbery on purpose. But I'm just saying, because it's like that. Yeah, that's all the Duffer brothers are like 80s nostalgic like whores like they like went through like everything. It was very not only a nightmare, a very hell raiser ish to. Yeah, no, I like. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. The alternate dimension, like which is how that's like.
00:22:51
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like a reoccurring thing. Like at first, you know, you think of it as kind of like purgatory or just like an alternate reality, but it is very, very hellish over there. That and shit like that. Yeah. It's basically like being in hell. It's nowhere where you would want to visit. Like, you know, like, cool. I'll check out the alternate reality. The alternate reality is a very, very miserable, terrible place where there's like lots of creatures.
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in season one, they also revealed that that alternate reality is toxic to the human lungs in time. So I didn't like where they went
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I didn't like where the Vecna character ended up becoming like a human who like just happened to be like in Eleven's like underground child testing facility, like experiment and how she, I thought that was pretty silly. I would have really liked it if he was just to be like a demon from another dimension.
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He didn't start off as human and also like does 11 and like does she have the ability where she could go into another dimension and just Survive without eating or drinking water like because that dude like that's something I thought when she cast him into that other dimension
00:24:10
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Like he was able to survive and seen, he said that I became like an adventurer and he's just like walking the planes of this other dimension, which I got like the idea that he was like walking for like weeks and he wasn't eating or drinking. So I guess like. Well, I mean, he kind of became one with that world. You know, that's why his body and stuff. Well, he finds the creature. Who knows?
00:24:35
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yeah i think he was feeding off of you know the children from fucking you know that's that that was what it tied back into from the first one it tied yeah i get that i'm talking about when he first gets over there yeah i don't know him like going around be like eating and drinking that wasn't necessary i didn't feel like they had to show him eating and drinking you're just like yeah but there was nothing now or drink over there there's no way for him to survive he could have been eating the monsters or
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all we know he was eating the monsters for all we know I'm just saying like I don't think it was that big of a fucking deal do you don't fucking watch people eat and shit in the fucking tv shows and movies at all like that's just I thought it was a big deal that he was a normal human being that got cast into this other dimension and when he's going through the story of how he came to be what he was he talked about how he wanders
00:25:34
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for long periods of time before he found the main creature. Yeah, I'm sorry that he didn't stop to tell you how much he ate or drank along the way. I would not have. I don't care about how much food he consumed or how much water he drank. Well, it made it seem like he was going on this long pillage for weeks on end with no way to survive. That's the only thing I would have liked to have known was how did his body
00:26:04
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physically sustain weeks of wandering without any nourishment because there was no nourishment in the upside down. Well, he takes over the control of that mind flier thing and bends it to his will. Yeah. There was a long period of time before he finds that.
00:26:27
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All right, but listen, he's this powerful fucking psychic and like he became one with the fucking dimension. And so he probably just fell off the fucking dimension. You never see. You see Jack Bauer once in eight seasons, 24.
00:26:40
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Yeah, that's way more, that's way more than the upside down. We're just going to have to. I think you're getting too hung up on that. That's all. I'm just saying like, I would have liked if the story just told how he was able to survive until he met that.
00:27:01
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That's all like it would have been cool if like he was like, yeah, I just started like feeding off the environment, like anything. I just would have liked to know because the way it was, it was like, he was like Moses in the wilderness. Like you got it where he was just wandering for who knows you could have been wandering for years. I just would have liked if they said how his
Debate on Vecna's Origin in Stranger Things
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normal human body survived that that's
00:27:28
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Oh, I'm a little touch on season five. Who knows? Maybe they will. I don't think so. I just would have liked that. Yes. I didn't want to see how much he ate per day. How much it sounds like you did. How much exercise he was getting. I don't care. I just want to know, like, because it looked like he got burned up, like, you know, he like turned into like the Freddy Krueger.
00:27:52
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his body looked like it was in terrible shape. And yet, like he just seemed fine when he got over there. He's like, Oh, I'm just going to walk for weeks on end. Nothing really fucks with me. And I'm able to just, you know, survive without eating or drinking or, you know, doing anything that a normal human may be on a big meal before he went in there. Anyway, I just didn't like how they got there. I like how you're all hung up on that. And my,
00:28:19
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I was very hung up on that. Yeah, clearly. Because I didn't like how I didn't like the way they reached his story. See, I liked how they tied everything in with like, it was all about being like her and Modine and like the father, Papa, was really just manipulating these psychic kids to like do their bidding to like, you know, so they can originally was to spy on like Russia's, but then like,
00:28:48
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They opened this other portal and like he kind of cared about these kids, but in his own manipulative way and then.
00:28:56
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When he lost him, he like this whole time, like he was trying to get back into this world. Cause he was like, oh, there's like, maybe we can use these creatures as weapons and shit like that. But like, I liked how it tied into season one where it's like hit the whole reason, like these creatures have been coming after 11 and stuff is because of, she was the one that put him over there and he's now controlling like the mind flare and the demigorgons and all this other stuff. So I thought that, I thought it was nice how they tied everything together.
00:29:25
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I don't know. Yeah. I didn't like that. I liked everything else. Like I, I liked season four better than I liked season three. Um, I thought season one and two were very good. Season three was absolutely awful. I thought season four was pretty overall bad, but I liked it more than I liked season three because at least it like made like, it was like part of like the main story with the Demi Gordons and stuff. I liked it. I liked it that it like kind of continued.
00:29:53
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From the theme of like season two and season one. I like that. And, um, I, I, I enjoyed the creature. I enjoyed like, you know, the bad guy that they protagonist, but, um, I just didn't like how they wrapped it up. Like the conclusions they grow, like the origin. So I would like to have him just been like a.
00:30:13
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mysterious monster from another dimension. I didn't like that whole part, but I definitely thought that this was a more quality season than season three, much more pertaining to the original themes, the original ideas of the developers from the first two seasons, if you just exclude everything from California and everything from Russia.
00:30:40
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Those characters should have either not been in it or should have died in the very first episode. I think that's the only reason why I like season three better because I can watch the whole thing and not feel like there were any parts that weren't part of the overall story where season four like the parts in Hawkins is better than all of season three but there's all this filler around it that brings it down as a whole complete series for me.
00:31:06
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I didn't get that at all. Each episode was an average of an hour and 10 minutes. I understand the first episode being that long because you have to re-establish what these characters have been doing. Yeah, that's fine. Whatever. But every episode, there were nine episodes, correct?
00:31:23
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Yeah. And they were all about an hour and 10 minutes, which is like 13, 12, 13 episodes. There was no need, no need for it to have filler episodes. There was no need for it to have filler content. They could have made nine 50 minute episodes and that would have been
00:31:43
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everything in Hawkins. That would have been the central theme. That's it. There would have been a solid nine episodes that were between 50 and 55 minutes. They did not need the film. So I was just totally confused by that. Yeah, I think the other two was there. The other two storylines should have been wrapped up by season three and they should have been back in Hawkins by like three or four. We're going to see the four. They should have been back in Hawkins. Everybody's involved in the story. Let's go.
00:32:11
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It was just weird. Why did they fucking decide to do it that way? I don't know. We're running out of time here, but before we go, I just want to say my favorite. I really like the very end where the upside down is breaking through Hawkins.
00:32:32
Speaker
Yeah. Everybody's together and everyone's going to be fighting that for the next season. I think that, I think that's really interesting. Everyone's back in Hawkins now. So I think hopefully season five isn't going to be too many side stories where everyone's going to be involved because this is the final season too. Yeah. I thought, I thought season four was the final season. I went in thinking that they were wrapping this up. Yeah. I went in thinking that they were wrapping this up and that that was the final season.
00:33:03
Speaker
And yeah, I don't know, maybe in season five, they will kill off several characters that for some reason didn't seem like they were like supposed to even be in the season.
00:33:17
Speaker
Yeah. It seems like they should have killed Hopper off last season and they should have killed at least one or two more off this season. The people they did kill off this season were like brand new characters. Like I thought they were going to kill Max off. She's just in a coma. Like they killed Eddie off, but he had a great, I liked it. I liked Eddie when he played master puppets on the trailer at the end. Yeah. No, he was a great addition. No, he was a great addition. But the thing with Max is it would indicate that she did die.
00:33:47
Speaker
at the end of season four. And the reason I would say this, and I really liked her character. I hated her character in season three.
00:33:56
Speaker
but like, she was the central character in this season. But it said that he needed to kill four people to open four gates. Like, this is sort of like a reference to like, biblical shit that happened in hell. Fucking, he needed to open four gates. So it seemed like for that gate to open, which it did, so realities are now like, mixed. Max is like, she would have had to have died.
00:34:24
Speaker
So maybe maybe it's her mind. So she's in a coma. She kind of died on mine. And like, I'm guessing we're going to figure out a way to bring her back. Yeah, I'm guessing to stop it. Yeah. So, yeah, like maybe she like was technically dead for like, you know, a half hour or something. And that was enough to like make the, you know, the ripage and time and space at three dimensions collided. And then like 11 is going to somehow bring her back. I mean,
00:34:54
Speaker
I personally think that's probably going to be what it is. And that's pretty fucking corny, but, you know, whatever. Well, so I think sacrifice herself to close the gates. Yeah, I don't I have no I have no idea like what was in Hawkins, what was the major story I thought was pretty fucking cool. I just have no idea why there's other characters because
00:35:22
Speaker
I saw the characters that weren't really involved in the main story.
00:35:27
Speaker
The ones that were in California, they were in it so infrequently, it was almost like they were just being made cameos. Yeah, I forgot half the time what was going on over there every time I cut back. Yeah. What was going on? Oh, right. They're not doing anything with this story. Now, Hopper's story, he was in it enough where you were like, you know, he wasn't related to the main story, but he was in it enough. So it wasn't like a cameo. He was a part of season four. But like it's just him being in prison.
00:35:57
Speaker
yeah nothing to do with nothing to do and then the end of the season he I guess the face off the Demogorgon and they see that some of that mind flayer dust is there so they're like oh there's a portal open but you take all that out and it has no effect on what happened in Hawkins so yeah I didn't the only thing I saw of him in prison over there really
00:36:14
Speaker
was when he was in the arena with the guy from Game of Thrones. Yeah, that was kind of interesting. Like I saw the prison fight where they, you know, they were doing the Roman gladiator thing with the Demi organ.
00:36:28
Speaker
But like other than that, I took your advice and skipped everything from California, skipped everything from Russia, but I made a note of how long I was skipping. So I was like, Oh wow. So I'm trimming like about 25 minutes out of each episode, but it was still, I mean, so I made note of it, but like, I think if I had watched that, I would have probably not been able to get through the whole season.
00:36:56
Speaker
because it seems so pointless. Yeah. So that's where I was at. Yeah. Well, yeah. Before we go, favorite characters this season? I like Max. I liked Steve was probably my favorite. Steve, the Steve Robin Nancy combo is my favorite right there. Well, I like always fucking kills like every episode. I sure as fuck like Nancy. But
00:37:22
Speaker
My favorite character was Max and that was a big thing because I hate it for character in season in season three and my least favorite character would have been.
00:37:35
Speaker
Why are the rider maybe? I don't know. I don't know. The new stoner kid was your. Yes. In the main group was the new stoner pizza guy. I despise this character and I've nothing else. I think Steve has consistently been my favorite character since season, probably since season two, at least he's been one of the hated pizza delivery guy. But anyway, yeah, that's really all I got to say.
00:38:21
Speaker
All right. Well, thanks for joining me and we'll see you next time.