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Cabinet of Curiosities part 1
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Introduction to Fright Central
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Speaker
Welcome. For real. Good evening.
Discussing 'Cabinet of Curiosities'
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Speaker
Welcome to Fright Central, where we talk all things horror. I'm Keck here with Doc, and tonight we're going to be talking about Netflix's semi-newish cabinets of curiosity.
Del Toro's Signature Style
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It came out
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late October of last year. Yes, it's presented by Guillermo del Toro. He kind of does like the Hitchcock thing from, you know, Alfred Hitchcock's series or like the Twilight Zone.
00:00:49
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He does the I assume that anybody that would even be even remotely considering listening to a horror podcast knows who he is. So I mean, I mean, the younger, younger, younger generation, maybe newer. Yeah, newer fans might just be checking out a horror show, but like, oh, it's kind of like it's kind of like Black Mirror.
Initial Expectations vs. Reality
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I mean, which has got a new season as well. Yeah, I saw that. I haven't watched any episodes of that yet, but
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Uh, just talking about, uh, yeah. Um, if you don't know who del Toro is, uh, I mean, I guess I can give you a rundown real quick of like the stuff he's done. Uh, most famously, probably, uh, hell boy one and two, but, uh, his best ones are probably, uh, devil's backbone and pan's labyrinth, which are both Spanish, uh, films, but they're definitely worth checking out and they're amazing.
Praise for Series' Elements
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Yeah, I mean, and they're, they've done very well with American audiences, too. Yes. So yeah, they're, they're very well known. But before like getting into the meat of, you know, the episodes of cabinets curiosity, I just wanted to give like a quick initial impression. And that is, I had
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I really didn't have very high expectations for this, but, uh, I gotta say, I thought it was fucking excellent. Um, I did not like, obviously there were some, um, you know, each one is about a 55 minute short. Um, if you, I mean, 55 minutes. Yeah. I mean, it's not quite a full length movie. So.
Hope for a Second Season
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I would consider them shorts, but I mean, they're very full. I mean, they're very compact. There's a lot of character development that goes into them, and they're shorts, but they are
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very well-developed stories. And I was just, I thought the quality of the writing in each and every episode was good. There was a high production value, I thought, for every episode. And this just exceeded all my expectations. I was very, very impressed by this. And, you know, this was like just
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I mean it's just good classic horror at its roots and I think even some of the episodes that I didn't like that much they
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I think that I would have probably liked them more given if it wasn't for the overall quality of just the entire series. You know, it was just very impressive. It was very well done. And so my initial impression I just wanted to share was that this was a fucking amazing series. And I'm not sure if there's going to be a season two.
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of cabinet security. I'm not sure if they're continuing on with this, but I certainly hope they
Comparison to 'Black Mirror'
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are.
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Yeah, I haven't heard anything yet. But yeah, like you said, production value in the writing and everything has been really spectacular. And a lot of these series, even with Black Mirror, I know that's probably the most popular one. But even with that, it's very hit or miss with those. And I can't really say one season is better than another. But I can say certain episodes are better than others when it comes to Black Mirror. But this overall, I thought was just fantastic, even if
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there was a couple there's maybe one or two that I was what was like okay that was good but like compared to what else like you've like just showed me like they played them in like a different order
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Yeah. At the same time, it was just like, yeah, it was like, they're still good, you know, especially compared to other things, but compared to like the episodes in here, they were almost like the weaker ones, even though they were pretty, I thought they were still pretty solid overall. Yeah. The one thing I will note, and we discussed this in private a little bit last night, I was surprised by the reaction that I saw on IMDB.
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except for one episode, which was my favorite episode, actually, that we'll probably talk about in a little bit greater length. None of them had over a seventh in overall user reviews. And I was really surprised by this, because like I just said, I thought that this was very well done,
Surprising IMDB Ratings
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very solid. And I was surprised by the reaction. I thought that,
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you know, especially because you were able to rate them by episode rather than like just the season as a whole. And I was surprised that like the initial user reaction wasn't a little bit better. That's the only other thing I was going to know. Yeah, you never know. It could have been a whole lot of
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like not really, you know, big horror fans that just kind of discovered it. And like, and a lot of these episodes are very heavily Lovecraftian inspired. So like, oh, yeah, yeah. So it's almost like if you're not a Lovecraft fan and like this and you're just want to watch like this horror story, like, yeah, I could I could see them not really enjoy it. Well, I mean, that leads us right into
Episode 1: Lovecraftian Themes
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first episode, which I thought was like the most like, I mean, it was pretty much like Lovecraft, like
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you know, just out on a plate, you know, it was the racist army veteran, I think he was. Yeah, to play by Tim Blake Nelson. Yeah, that's where the story by Guillermo del Toro, and it was directed by Guillermo Navarro, who was, he's done a lot of television episodes, but he was like, del Toro's like cinematographer on a lot of stuff too. So like, they've worked together and everything.
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But yeah, like he was basically like this war vet. It takes place like early 90s because you see on like the TV, like Bush is like an office. Yeah, he's listening to like like like Fox News, like Tucker Carlson rant or something like that. It wasn't the equivalent to that. Like, you know, when Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson hybrid conspiracy theory, you know, like immigrants are coming to destroy us all.
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this country is going to hell, blah, blah, blah. He's like chiming in and, you know, like talking, you know, with the with the anchor, whatever. And, you know, a man, brother type shit. And yeah, it was very interesting because I wasn't exactly sure where this was
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going like the ending kind of got me by surprise. Um, he basically started out like, um, kind of like, uh, the ninth gate and a, and a bet where he, well, not actually started out that way. It started out with him, like he owed money. So he's like one of those guys that goes to buy, buys like a old, um,
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store units like tries to like you know hopefully find some good stuff in there that he can sell and he's in debt and he's trying to pay off this uh this debt and he and he feels like he's been mistreated since he's gotten back from the war and like everybody's against him now like so like that's kind of like turned him into what he is as well and uh and so it kind of just starts out with him like you know
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being a real dick to people but like you know like I gotta get ahead I need to pay this debt back so I'm gonna buy the storage unit and then like his like guy that I guess he they've known each other because I guess he goes to buy old lots all the time like he works there like he shows him like this real weird video like the guy who used to come there like every day and do like some weird ritual before going in and like he's like yeah I don't really care like I just let me get my uh storage unit and open this shit up so like
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He's really like arrogant and like, you know, like he's just like, I need my, I need this money. Like, I don't care about any of this other type of shit type deal. So, but yeah, then like he ends up finding like this. I don't know. It's really like a witchcraft board with like three hidden books inside. Well, before you say that, just,
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A lot of the units that he was buying, like he's basically buying these like vacant units or units that got foreclosed, the owners couldn't pay their bill.
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And so he would go in. But most of the time in the past, these were people that just disappeared. They stopped paying their units when the foreclosure, everything got auctioned off. In this instance, as soon as he goes there, there's like this Spanish woman, I think it was. I think she was like a Hispanic woman. And she was basically saying, like, look, I just want to pick out a few sentimental items like
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I'd like it if you didn't fuck with my shit, but like, I know you're going to, could you please just let me grab a few things that aren't worth very much. And he tells her to go fuck herself. You know, he's a racist asshole. Like his, like her suffering kind of like almost like made him happy in a sense.
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And so anyway, but I just wanted to put in the context that like this unit wasn't like somebody just disappeared. There was like a woman there while he was going through everything, begging him. That was a different unit. That was not the same unit.
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he had another unit of hers that she wanted to get into because it was the old guy that was like you saw in the beginning that was like butchering and then he has the heart attack. It was his unit. Oh, really? And so what was, but she, it was another day had bought that he had bought the same place.
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that, that she had like not paid on and he wanted to get in there and he was like, no, you can't get it. Like it's mine. You're not, you're not getting in there. It wasn't her. Then I misunderstood the premise. I, I thought it was her stuff that he was going through and her stuff that he was pawning off. I don't even know why that she was like upset about it. I don't like, I don't know like what her because apparently it was like mistakenly sold to him, but like he's like, yeah, like, cause it was like,
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her a lot and he like, uh, wanted, just wanted some family belongings from it. And she was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, I don't give a shit. It's mine now. I need to fucking find something valuable out of here. But it wasn't, uh, it wasn't the same unit. It was the different unit. Cause like the, the unit that even care about it, if it wasn't her stuff. You mean
Episode 2: 'Graveyard Rats'
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at the end? No, like I'm talking about like, why didn't even care.
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It was a different unit that she had, she had a unit at that same storage unit that he had bought as well. And that was her unit, but not the one where he finds the books. That was a different unit.
00:12:24
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Okay, well, you'll have to watch it yourself. I'm totally confused. I thought I understood. I have no idea. But anyway, he's basically he's pronouncing people shit. He was there like the when it when it showed him buying that one lot, that was the guy who was doing the ritual and the butcher who was like chopping meat. That that was a different lot. And then like, as he was going to like open that lot, the lady came in to talk to the owner of the thing and was like, hey, like,
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Um, where's my lot at? Like you, you sold that by mistake before. And he was like, Oh, well that guy's over there. Like he just bought this other light. It was a completely different lot. She was there to collect items from a different storage unit. He had just, he was doing the same thing that he was doing. Like that was her thing or no, she had a storage unit there and she, I guess foreclosed or whatever that wasn't keeping up with her payments and her, her, her storage unit was sold to him.
00:13:22
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Yeah, well, whatever. There was racial tension between the two of them. And he finds this like crazy book. And then he finds like a room. German seance table and three volumes on demon summoning. Yeah. And he goes to a broker to try to sell it. And they're like, oh, there's a fourth volume in this.
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And then like that, and they were like, okay, well, I'm going down there to search for it now and brings that dude with them. And that's when they find that, uh, that extra space. And the room that they find it's in the storage space, right? Like the room where this like, where the seances were happening.
00:14:05
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Yeah, they said that he noticed that the storage units were a little bit smaller and it was because previously it had been larger ones that they'd made smaller. So that's why he was able to have that hitting room there and then went into like
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the basement or whatever. And there was like Seeker Chamber where the fourth one and like a dormant demon were there that were like, but it was like sealed. And it was the old man's like long missing sister that he like, like she went missing and like he allowed like the demon or whatever to take over her body and he was bringing meat to the demon to like feed the demon and keep it alive.
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But instead of like, you know, listening to the other guy that was there with him to not break the seal, he just was like, I need that money. And he just went broke the seal and got the book and it unleashed the demon.
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And it consumes that other dude like almost right away. He was just kind of standing there in shock and he tries to escape. And then when he's, uh, when Tim Blake Nelson's character is trying to like get out, he like the door is locked and he sees the, uh, the Mexican woman who he like refused to, uh, to give her stuff out and she just, uh, locks the outside of it and just watches him get eaten by the monster. Um, that's cool. I thought the creature looked, uh, really, really cool.
00:15:32
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Yeah, you know, it was just like if you, you know, if you if you saw just the creature itself, like you would immediately think Lovecraft, it was like the very like iconic thing, like the artwork that you see, like from people that like drew things from the Necronomicon and artists that like drew like Lovecraft inspired work. It's just like the typical like it was kind of like a
00:16:01
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There was like legs and there were lots of tentacles and stuff like that. And I mean, it just looked rad. It was really cool. And I did not see that happening. I mean, I knew that there was going to be something dark and terrible in that unit, but like.
00:16:16
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I had no idea that it was going to come to that. And yeah, and he met like a very grizzly end. And yeah, and that leads right into the second one because the second one was sort of like based on that too, because the guy was a grave robber.
00:16:35
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Yeah, and he was real greedy as well and just wanted to. And I remember you telling me you were thrown off by the second episode because you thought it was one long series with all connected stories and not an anthology. Well, I thought that the series were I thought I knew that they were different stories, but I thought that they were all supposed to be related in some way where there was going to be like tidbits of the past in it.
00:17:03
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Like I didn't realize that every story was completely individualized. That's what I didn't know. I thought you were going to see some characters that you had seen in the other episodes and stuff like that. I thought there was going to be summary occurrence, but, you know,
00:17:23
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It all had like a common theme, I guess, going into the second one, where Guy is basically a grave robber. Well, this one's called Graveyard Rats, and it was written by Henry Kutner, who is just a sci-fi fantasy horror writer.
F. Murray Abraham's Episode
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And it was directed by Vicenzo Natelli. He is a director history writer who did such horror films as Cube, Cypher, Nothing, and Splice.
00:17:54
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So, uh, yeah, this one takes place like what, like early 1900s, like in Salem, Massachusetts. And, um, was it, was it, um, it was the early 1900s. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. It said like an exact date, but you could just tell by the way they were like dressed and everything. Yeah. The one guy was dressed where it was in the very beginning. Um, the guy he's talking about, because this guy, um, is like a grave robber as we've established.
00:18:24
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And, um, he's also the grave take, he's also the cemetery, uh, uh, grave, uh, caretaker. Cause he, but he's a great, he's a grave robber. It's all scammed. But he goes in the very beginning and he is in deep financial problems. And basically he owes money to some very bad people that say like they're going to tell him if he is not able to come up with the money in a week or for German.
00:18:50
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do something really terrible, but, um, the guy he talks to in the very beginning, he seemed like he was like some dude that like I could meet in Brooklyn, like to that.
00:19:01
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Like she did not seem like he was from the early 1900s. Like he seemed like he could be, you know, some dude that I just like randomly meet on the street today. Like he was, I don't know what he was doing. He was in like a mechanic shop or some shit or a butcher. I don't know. So they were in the morgue.
00:19:21
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and he because he was trying to get the teeth and all the uh all the gold the the gold teeth from the the probably it was like cutting because like yeah because every time he would go every time he would go get the uh from the graves he noticed that like the bodies were missing it was because the rats were taking them so he was trying to get before they were buried and like he had like a deal with like the uh the guy
00:19:45
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The mortuary guy but he was like, now you have to wait like we get the family's got to come see him they got to do the autopsy stone shit. So he was trying to get him like right before they got buried because like, yeah, shortly soon enough like as he goes to get the body with all these jewels and everything the rats come and like pull the body underground so he goes chasing after him.
00:20:08
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And yeah, the issue is the guy that the people that he owed money to like that. Yeah. Yeah. I know you're talking about. Yeah. Anyway. But that guy, he was trying to explain the predicament with the rats. Yeah. And like he was trying to, you know, say like, you know, I'm having trouble paying you guys back my debt because these rats are doing it. And the guy totally doesn't believe. Yeah.
00:20:38
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you know, he's like, yeah, like rats don't do that in a very like present day New York accent. And yeah, but I know you mean like, obviously it was the guy talked in like, you know, early like 19th century, like, you know, so yeah, I know it was supposed to be like,
00:21:00
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roughly around 100 to 150 years ago, something like that. But that guy, he just really drew me off. And he was basically saying like, rats don't do this type of shit. Like, you know, you're out of your mind, you're just dicking us around. And then things just really get crazy. The guy starts like, you know, going after like the graves and
00:21:23
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He's in like a labyrinth under the ground, like organized. And I think at like one point, like there's even like a zombie body that like comes after him and tries to block him. He's like going down there and then like he, I guess he awakens like an ROUS as they say from princess bride. They are right over a rodent of an unusual size.
00:21:48
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I don't really believe they exist.
00:22:01
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And but then he notices that like all the jewels are still there. And as he's like picking up the jewels, he spots like one like a necklace item that's on this like corpse. And he also realizes that he's deep underground and and and what's a black church is what it's called. It's it's like a what was rumored to have been like a satanic like church.
00:22:29
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back in like, you know, the sale of which times and stuff that like people would worship stuff. And and that's where the rats were basically taking the the jewels to was the black church. And that's where the shiny object and he takes that one off the corpse and awakens the corpse. And so like the corpse is now chasing him. And then he's being chased by the the rats as well. And then he is just like a lot of chaos. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, for me, I just
00:22:59
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I like the first, I actually like the first episode more. I don't know. I just, I really liked this episode. Cause it really, I thought it really like the claustrophobic in it. Like when he's like in the digging through the tunnels and stuff, I thought the claustrophobic was really good. Uh, the rats, when he like pulls the, uh, the, he sees the tail on the ceiling and is, uh, in his hotel room and he pulls on it and then all the rats come down on them and like, they're all like eating them and shit. I thought that was fucking, uh,
00:23:27
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pretty fucking dope. I thought the, uh, the corpse is like crawling after me on mine, mine, mine and the giant rat. I don't know. I thought it was just a fun episode. I really liked it. Uh, but, uh, yeah, I do think the first one was better, but again, it was like, it's, it's hard to compare. Like they were both, they were, they were both very good. They were both very well done. I mean, I, I think,
00:23:49
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Part of it for me at least might be, like I said, I had low expectations in the beginning, but then the next episode is what really liked
00:24:02
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just boy things up for me where I was like, Oh wow. Like this is something really special, which features F Murray Abraham. Yes. Uh, and this one was a, uh, was written by, uh, Michael Shea, who was, uh, another fantasy, uh, sci-fi writer. And it was, uh, directed by, uh, David Pryor who did, uh, the empty man. And, uh, I've never heard of this series for VAR V O I R.
00:24:32
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Never heard of that, but I haven't seen The Empty Man either, but apparently it's a cult horror film. The teleplay was done by David S. Gore, who's worked on a bunch of stuff with, you know, comics, screenplays. I think he did like, he worked on the Blade trilogy and stuff like that. This one was called The Autopsy, like you said, with F. Murray Abraham. If you want to tell him what the story was on this one, go for it. Well, I mean, the story, it's a,
00:25:02
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This was like, um, a very like detective noir feel to it.
Masterpiece Episode: 'The Autopsy'
00:25:08
Speaker
It reminded me of, um, the Night Stalker and the Midnight Strangler. Um, if you're familiar with any of those, I know, uh, we saw both of them together. Um,
00:25:19
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F. Murray Abraham had like that very like old school, like detective vibe to him. The I knew the the other actor, too. I don't know the guy's name, but I've seen him in a bunch of stuff. It was Glenn, Glenn, rather determined. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's played. They were old friends and he's like the lead investigator in this case. Yeah.
00:25:45
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In the beginning see it seems like it was going to be like a vampire story that's what i know it starts out with them like you know it shows like the accident that happens in the mind and then he arrives there than my eyes copy tells that marie a brand news the,
00:26:03
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corner or the guy who does the autopsy. He tells him the story of what led up to the incidences. And yeah, it's like they somebody's gone missing. And then because he went to look at the stars, whatever, and he come back and they find him in a bar, and he's like under a different name. And then that guy goes missing, but bodies are starting to be found that are that are drained of blood.
00:26:29
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Yeah, well, that's what. Yeah, anyway, they find a body that's all like kind of like bandaged up in a tree in the woods. They're doing like a search party. Someone has gone missing and they find the body and it's all drained of blood and like hacked up. And it just seemed like it was going to be like a vampire story. And I was just like, oh, well, you know, hey, still, it's cool. It's F. Murray Abraham. Like, you know, I mean, like
00:26:57
Speaker
But after you see in the intro, there's a very bizarre like mine cave in where a guy has like a bomb. So, like, I knew there was going to be like something more to it, but I didn't. I did not see it going this way. If anyone has seen the movie The Head, which I hope you have with God damn it, his brother, our child, the Glen talk now, how.
00:27:26
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Oh, yeah, I'm thinking of the other. Anyway, if you're familiar with the hidden, it's how there's this like evil alien creature that comes down and it's like a slug looking thing with like tentacles, like kind of like a squid looking alien. And it like crawls up inside the people and it controls them.
00:27:46
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And it basically uses them as like the host, and it does whatever it wants until that body has expired till they've have worn it brag it and then it moves on to a fresh house, and it just keeps going and.
00:28:03
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just constant mayhem. That's what this alien species likes to do. And that's what happened in the hidden and that's basically the same premise as this. There's an alien that just goes from person to person. It likes being human. It likes suffering. It likes chaos. And it works up on F. Murray Abraham in this more
00:28:26
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while F. Murray Abraham is doing an autopsy and he is transcribing his notes in an audio recorder.
00:28:39
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then everything just goes fucking nuts. Yeah. Well, the, uh, the alien can't survive outside of humans. It has no, it can't see, it has no senses. It can't see here or smell or anything like that. So it has to live inside of a human body. And so that was basically the same thing as the head. Yeah. It's like the same exact, it was, they could not survive in our environment.
00:29:07
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this alien creature could not survive. So it was obviously an evil, like this was like a consciously evil alien race. Like it wanted harm. It liked to inflict suffering. Um, the guy basically as, uh, he is able to, um,
00:29:31
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immobilize F. Murray Abraham and he's like telling him how he, you know, F. Murray Abraham, by the way, his character has cancer. He only has a few months left. Yeah. And the alien doesn't know that. So yeah. Yeah. Well, the alien does actually know that. He says, I can, I can smell your cancer. Like, I think it will taste wonderful. And he's telling F. Murray Abraham, don't worry.
00:29:54
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I'm going to kill your buddy and all your friends and, you know, I'm going to let you watch it.
Beauty and Madness
00:30:00
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And, you know, he just kind of carries. I think he takes some of the consciousness of every person that he's ever been in with him and kind of keeps them in some suffering. I wasn't 100 percent sure on that. I mean, I could do a cast just about this episode, so I don't want to delve in too deep.
00:30:18
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But I mean, this was the most highly rated of all the episodes by the users. And I just thought it was like a masterpiece. And without like a lot more time to talk about it, I feel like I'd be doing a disservice. So I would just say if you only watch one episode,
00:30:41
Speaker
watching the entire scene. But if you only watch one episode, this would be the one that slightly wins out.
00:30:57
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Yeah, I'm watching. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying if you if you were only going to watch one of the eight, this would be the one I would say that you watched it slightly edges out for me. Yeah. And I mean, that's like I said, I could do a much deeper dive. It ends in a fucking brutal fashion. I mean, it's just fucking awesome. So if you if you don't watch this, you're doing yourself a disservice. It was amazing.
00:31:27
Speaker
Moving into the final episode of the first half of the series. I just watched this one today because we had talked last night and somehow I don't know if I had missed this episode or if I had been distracted because I watched this whole season with a few other people.
00:31:49
Speaker
And I had no memory at all of season four. Who was in this? Who did this one? The outside was a, this one was directed by Anna Lily Annaport. She is a Iranian descent. She directed her, a girl walks home alone at night, which is- Oh yeah, I heard about that. There was a piece on PBS about her actually.
00:32:17
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about women, yeah, from the Middle East and film. Yeah. Yeah. First Iranian vampire spaghetti Western. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's based on a web comic by Emily Carroll. Yeah, that's funny. I recently I just recently heard about her on the piece that PBS did about Iranian women. However, I would say
00:32:43
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In my opinion, this was my least favorite episode in the entire in the entire season. I think the last episode probably was my least favorite. But real quick, since we don't have a whole lot of time left for this first half of the series.
00:33:00
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It's basically about this real awkward woman who has a loving husband who's a cop, but she's always feels like outside it at work. She works at a bank with all like these beautiful women and she always feels like she wants to be accepted by them and like them. So like during a Christmas party, she's given like a popular lotion and she has like a reaction to it. So she goes home, but like,
00:33:28
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She starts watching like she sees like an infomercial the infomercial is talking to her and it is very Video drum. Yes. Yeah, even though the commercial itself says it causes uh, hallucinations and stuff But she keeps using it because like she she doesn't she doesn't care about the rash. She wants to become beautiful and then eventually like I think everything was basically after that like
00:33:55
Speaker
a hallucination for her. She also does taxidermy because then she kills her husband, even though he's a real supporter of her at home and doesn't care about him. Yeah, he was a very good guy. He reminds me of the husband from Fargo season one.
00:34:17
Speaker
Or, yeah, he reminds me of the husband from Fargo, uh, kind of like, yes ma, no ma, like he kind of like seemed like he was sort of like Canadian to me. And, um, yeah, but he was just like a really, really, um, all in all, like great guy, loved her, told her, you know, she was beautiful no matter what. Anyway.
00:34:38
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just like an extremely supportive spouse. Like the ideal partner that you would want to like spend your life with somebody that was totally devoted to her, loved her, and yet she murders him and cold blood. I mean, she goes crazy.
00:34:54
Speaker
Yeah, she is crazy. She's like a beautiful version of herself that comes forms out of a lotion and then she goes into the tub and then she comes out and she cuts her hair, puts on some makeup and de-dressing and goes to work and everyone and everyone's like, oh my God, you're so beautiful. But I think that's all hallucination. Yeah, I got
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00:35:12
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the same. I got the same impression. I think she went to work and she sees it as everybody saying, oh, you're so beautiful. My God, can we please be your friend? Can we touch you? Can we smell you?
00:35:23
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But I think in reality, she shows up at her work the next day.
00:35:29
Speaker
And she looks like most of her skin has melted off. And I think those women are basically shrieking in horror. And we're just seeing her perception of it. Yeah, we're just seeing her view. Yeah. They don't say that explicitly. But I mean, we both got the same take from it. So I think that's what the director was trying to convey. Yeah, absolutely.
00:35:55
Speaker
Yeah, it's all hinted at in the infomercial where they talk about the side effects and stuff like that. And the infomercial guys played by Dan Stevens. Yeah, I knew I recognized him from somewhere.
00:36:10
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, he was great. He was like, I would say, like, for me, he was probably my favorite part of this episode. Yeah, I mean, I still enjoy that episode. But of the first four, it is the weakest one. And I think of all of them, it is lower on my list because there are some great ones coming up in part two, which we will be talking about soon. Yeah, definitely. But anyway, if you have not yet, definitely check out Cabinet of Curiosities.
00:36:41
Speaker
It's been really, really, really great. And yeah, in our next cast, we're going to be discussing the second half, which was
00:36:52
Speaker
every bit as good as the first half. I would probably say the second half I actually liked better, even though my favorite episode was in the first half of the season. But anyway, that's all we got for now, and thank you for listening. Yeah, stay tuned for part two. See you soon. Peace.