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Ep. 263 – World War 3, Bible Camp Truth or Dare, and Other Such Perilous Battlefields image

Ep. 263 – World War 3, Bible Camp Truth or Dare, and Other Such Perilous Battlefields

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Well, I guess we’re at war… again. So we’re lamenting the fact that our country seems bound and determined to drag the world into a meat grinder one more time before the empire dissolves, and then we examine a post from a young man who is bound and determined to drag his fledgling relationship into the meat grinder before it even starts. Stay safe out there, kids.

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Awkward Social Dynamics and Judgmental Behavior

00:00:00
Speaker
why did you do remember when you did that, that thing? Like, why did you do something so slutty? Is that, are you normally that gross or this like, was that exceptional what you did?
00:00:11
Speaker
Just wondering because you might not be marriage material. Yeah. I just want to make uncomfortable and kind of position myself in a, in a, in a, in a dominance role over you spiritually and emotionally.
00:00:26
Speaker
Hey, I know we haven't gone on one date yet. I just want you to know, I don't think I can in good conscience marry a woman other people have seen naked on the beach. Yeah. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but like, I don't think I can in good conscience marry someone who's other people have seen their butt cheeks.
00:00:44
Speaker
yeah ah I just keep thinking about how, like, if we got married, you've already like spoiled my wedding gift. Yeah.
00:00:57
Speaker
I can't help but thinking that if we get married, like if we get like, I don't want to get ahead of myself. Like I know we haven't gone on a date yet, but if we get married, I kind of feel like everyone who played truth or dare with us is in the room with me when I have sex with you for the first time.
00:01:10
Speaker
If it's the first time, it should be the first time, but it doesn't have to be.

Growing Up Christian Podcast Introduction

00:01:32
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And I'm... i know this is weird disposition to maybe have right now, but I'm feeling a little bit thankful.
00:01:47
Speaker
i I was just a wee lad when we had Bush's War on Terror, and... A lot of that zoomed right over my head. i you know, I was, I knew it was correct. I knew Bush was a hero. i knew he was doing the right thing to keep me and my family safe. um You know, it was, I was in and I told people, you know, at my, ah you know, at my church, I would, I like to be the guy to bring it up. Like I thought I was in the know because we had Fox news running on repeat all day. I thought we hated all the right people. Yeah, dude we hated Muslims. We hated the French for daring to question us.
00:02:30
Speaker
We call their French fries freedom fries. Hated hated Rosie O'Donnell for like whatever reason. I forget. She said something liberal one time.
00:02:41
Speaker
We turned our back to on and every single actor that decided to go, you know. live in the UK for a little bit. If, if that was where they were from, they're like, I'm going to go home for a little bit. And we're like, wow, what a traitor to this country. You shouldn't even listen to our movies anymore.
00:02:57
Speaker
That's a phrase that we're going to have to bring back is, uh, you're, you're, you're letting the terrorists win. Yeah. And now it's so it's wild. So now that now that i now that I'm we're living in 2026, I've been seeing a lot of clips of like side by sides, right, of ah this administration justifying the war we just started in Iran and George Bush's, um you know, rhetoric around like the his justification for the Iraq war.

Media Influence on War Perception

00:03:33
Speaker
And it's really crazy how, how logically it's the same amount of stupid. It sounds a little bit smarter coming from George Bush. When Trump talks, he's just sounds really dumb all the time, but like the logic is just the same. I mean, I didn't even realize that, but one of, one of Bush's points at one time when he was probably just caught in the moment was that like,
00:03:58
Speaker
what he said, he said Iraq tried to kill his dad or something stupid. So he was like, so we have to do this. I mean, what what do you expect? A lot of bad justifications for the war in Iraq that I wasn't aware of. And now I'm realizing like for people who were on the left during that time, while I was just kind of chilling on Cape Cod being like, this is awesome. I watched the bombs go off on screen. i'm like, look what we're doing to the bad guys. This is, this is, we are,
00:04:27
Speaker
doing the right thing. And then you realize like how the rest of the country felt is how I feel now. And it's like to have no concept of how, how upsetting war could be um as a 12 year old, you know, is ah now I'm thankful that I get to, I've been given the opportunity to ah make repayment on that lack of empathy that I had Almost everybody has to make repayment on that because that was an extremely popular action at the time. Yeah, it was. Everybody was in favor of it.
00:05:01
Speaker
Now, thankfully, thankfully, this is this is like the reaction that you hope people have when they try to sell us a new conflict,

US-Iran Military Strategies

00:05:10
Speaker
you know? Yeah.
00:05:11
Speaker
And ah it is refreshing for once. And yeah, like a lot of the logic is very similar between like the Bush administration's you know, public pitch.
00:05:22
Speaker
It's just that like Trump didn't even have the decency to false flag us before. ah yeah he is I know. And he's getting bold, man, because he like he just he worked over Venezuela real quick.
00:05:36
Speaker
Three weeks later, we're bombing Iran. And now he's already now he's he's like he's already lost his stiffy and he can't get hard again until we do it to Cuba. It's nuts. Yeah, he should have like, I mean, really, the that the smart thing to do would have been to like, you know, set off sarin gas and like crypto.com, you know, dog racing track or whatever. Yeah.
00:05:59
Speaker
kill a bunch of the dregs of society. And then we can use that as justification. Like, Oh, the, uh, the imams did it or whatever. du I think one of the surprising things to me though, well, not really.
00:06:11
Speaker
Um, you know, we know how, we know how all of our media is being bought up by right wing hacks, Zionist hacks. Um, But watching all these clips from mainstream media, like try to just like soft pedal what's going on is actually crazy. like Is it even a war? I mean, would you call this a war? you're Like, yeah, I think when you assassinate the the highest position of a country on live television and you just and then you.
00:06:41
Speaker
talk about putting in their replacements and then being Trump being like, Oh, actually our strikes were so successful that we, uh, you know, actually all the people we thought we might be able to replace him with are also dead, dead, like second, third string, dead, all gone. We killed them all. That's how successful we were. That's how successful our bombs are. Um,
00:07:02
Speaker
Turns out we don't have a puppet regime anymore, which whatever, obviously is Israel's cool that they're they're more than happy to turn Iran into a failed state so they can just kind of like poke it for the next 10 years until it's theirs. that's yeah cool That's the thing that like I feel like people are...
00:07:19
Speaker
That's where that's the message that needs to get out is that like nobody's nobody in power's goal here is to lift Iran up into some sort of like democratic regime or something, you know, like help the people take charge of their country and free themselves from the bottom of the Islamic administration or whatever. It's it's to create a rump state engulfed in civil war and have it fragment into like five or six warring cultural groups, all controlled by like a minority people group that they can then fund and equip with weapons and stuff to keep the chaos going.

Iran's Resilience and Leadership

00:07:56
Speaker
And we'll we'll we'll fund both sides where.
00:08:00
Speaker
We'll set we'll arm both sides um and watch it play out. They yeah, that's the point. It's just let it fail. um And that's why they're like, oh, this will be over quick. It's like, yeah, because once you kill all their top officials, like you're good to just pull out now. Like what they didn't expect is Iran being like, now we're going not stop launching missiles at you.
00:08:20
Speaker
We're just going to keep doing it. They're so dumb that they basically like this most recent attack is like the fourth time that they've rug pulled the Iranians, you know, like, you know, it's coming now. Like they know when you start talking too much about diplomacy and negotiations that like, oh, we're about to get bombed now.
00:08:39
Speaker
Like, no, you can't pull that trick. four times in a row you know right and like they're the last the last attack that they did i think really shook up the iranian regime a little bit and made them understand like hey we cannot have like this singularity of of leadership in the country like we need layers of leadership that can assume power should the worst happen and a bunch of our people get targeted I think they probably also like really changed their security procedures because that was apparent in the last round is that, you know, they were completely compromised. Israel knew where like all of their top guys were

American Military Dominance Myths

00:09:19
Speaker
and managed to kill a whole bunch of them on like the first day, you know.
00:09:23
Speaker
Now, I mean, they did take out a number of them, but like they're prepared for it now. Like they they have an ah ah a succession plan in place. They've already appointed. Apparently they appointed Khamenei's son, whose name is much much Taba.
00:09:39
Speaker
I don't know how you say that, but he's the new supreme leader. Yeah. The Ayatollah, is that it? Yeah, I guess he's the Ayatollah now. Maybe that's what Supreme Leader means. don't know. I'll honest, this is the first time I've been really noticing the word Ayatollah in the past.
00:09:56
Speaker
really noticing the word ayatollah and recognizing what it is. Islamic titles are pretty good. Like yeah they have some cool words for things. It's so funny too, because like I was with, uh, so this over the weekend, I took, um, a bunch of my like top performing salesmen. We went to Scottsdale and hung out and got an Airbnb. It did a bunch of fun stuff.
00:10:25
Speaker
And, uh, you know, they had the, the, the war launched while we were there. And, You know, like I've said before, most everybody I know outside of like this podcast is pretty right wing. So like listening to some of the reactions to it and stuff, it's like everybody is just so certain that America has like this just undeniable military dominance that cannot be watched.
00:10:51
Speaker
And it's like, dude, we've been getting our butts kicked by guys in caves for like 30 years now. Like, how do you still have this idea that we're just to crush everybody? And like, they're like, well, you know, they can't, they have to know that they can't possibly win. It's like, well, what does win mean?
00:11:07
Speaker
What does win mean like at this point? Because, I mean, if win means they invade the United States and cut off the head

Middle East Geopolitical Complexities

00:11:14
Speaker
of the president and like hang it in Times Square and then put us all in like a caliphate slave system, whatever the right wing fantasy is, yeah you know, whatever, whatever they jerk off to when they think about how cool it would be to be in like, ah you know, Middle Eastern Red Dawn.
00:11:31
Speaker
ah You know, that's probably not exactly what victory means. Like at this point, victory just means humiliating the United States. yeah yeah Yeah. If they if they can last like six weeks and completely grind the global economy to a halt and they shake the foundations of all of these like rump states, you know, ah like.
00:11:53
Speaker
ah subordinate regimes like you know Dubai and you know Saudi Arabia and all these people that just play along with whatever we seem to do. yeah That's victory at that point. and and And the calculated attacks is like going after natural gas, going after oil like ex ah refinery. like We obviously make enough of our own oil, but dude, I mean, what...
00:12:20
Speaker
Some of the attacks that they've launched are ah absolute. It's an absolute shock to the world economy. And they're just like, yeah, fuck you guys. Like i being in the Middle East is nuts, dude. Like you really are just surrounded by every like when you look at the map like where did you like I do it. I remember playing. I hated the game risk as a kid.
00:12:43
Speaker
I fucking hated it so much. It was so unfair anyway. And then you, my my kids were playing it when we were at a friend's house recently. And you see people who have like the swarms of armies that just are like, I'm watching. I'm like, this, it's not even fun to watch. Risk is a terrible game. It's, and,
00:13:01
Speaker
and And then like just watching it again, I'm like, I get what it's so it's like, that's real life. That's it sucks because it's how real life is. Like if you, if you're a stronghold accidentally ended up being in like the fucking middle East, you're just surrounded on all sides and you can just get poked and prodded by all the other players who form an alliance against you and you're fucked. It happens all the time. And then you go, that's actually real life there. Like you're literally completely surrounded and you've, You have like these loose ally ships with people that are very temporary based on how like whether whether or not we enact a regime, change war, or whether or not like um
00:13:41
Speaker
you know they have some sort of civil war and leadership changes. like Everything's so gnarly over there. And yeah it's like, I don't know, it's it's really hard to not sound like...
00:13:54
Speaker
It's also the framing still, the same old framing of, like, the the world's leading funder of terrorism is Iran. And you're like, what the fuck are you talking about? What that mean? You hear it on the news constantly. CNN. like loose Who's staged, like, 15 color revolutions over the past 20 years? I mean. That seems like a terrorist act.
00:14:14
Speaker
We... It's nuts. it's All we do is fund terrorism. We're the world's leading terrorist funders in this country over the past century. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. the and And of course, like the the the nation. Terrorism is in the eye of the beholder.
00:14:30
Speaker
the The nation pointing the finger and being like, oh, the terrorists, they're terrorists is like completely destroyed every one of its neighboring countries.

Media Narratives and Public Perception

00:14:39
Speaker
Yeah. It's and massacred their populations. Yeah. Like it's, it's really rich. I mean, you probably have seen the video, but like there's this like Israeli dude and he's standing in the rubble of like an apartment building yelling about how this is a war crime. And the reporter's like, well, what about Gaza? What about the women and children there? And he's like,
00:15:00
Speaker
He's like, look, look, look, look. this This is terrorism. This is a war crime. War crimes are what happened to me, not what There it is. it's It's pretty funny, but... And it's obviously awful. Like, people... ah It's not fair to the people of Israel to have to suffer missile attacks. Like, yeah just wondering.
00:15:24
Speaker
i'm not just I'm not super worried about what's fair for them at this point. I mean... You know what? You live there. You live there in the middle of that mess. Yeah. I mean, what do yeah they're almost all expats anyways from other places. So like, yeah, just go home. You can go home. They're all trying to go home. They're fleeing in large numbers. I mean, i don't want anybody to get hurt, but like at some point, hey, you know, you're living in the backyard of like an absolute, like ah ah a mass, a modern massacre on a scale that like we haven't seen since like, I don't know, Paul Potts.
00:15:58
Speaker
You know, the the the Holodomor, like what what do you whatever you want to say? I mean, it's absolutely insane. They're still restricting food flow. They're still bombing the Gazans and stuff like that. They're about to annex the West Bank. I don't have a lot of sympathy for anybody that's like, I know and we're not even talking about

Public Apathy and Military Conflicts

00:16:15
Speaker
rocket.
00:16:15
Speaker
Well, who cares? I, we're not even talking about like the West banks finished. It's finished. We've moved on as a world. We don't talk about it anymore. That's nuts. That, that shows like, I think and this, and this is what I, this is, I, we talked about this when everything started happening in Gaza, dude. Like,
00:16:34
Speaker
We fuck it was like, no, no, we started talking about this back in um when you when Russia invaded Ukraine. It was like they did it. Nothing happened. They're still doing it. They're still warring with Ukraine. And we and it was like, and what happens? Nothing. Nothing happens. We just have to move on. You can't stop it We see even that one, though, that's that's another one that like it's just dude, there's so much that happened in the lead up to that.
00:17:04
Speaker
Like they shouldn't have invaded. They've killed a lot of people. It's horrible. Lots of war crimes and all of that. Right. But like all of that has like U.S. and Western involvement all over it. You know, like they keep pushing, pushing, pushing up against Russia's borders and annexing different things and and then propositioning like Ukraine joining NATO. And it's like.
00:17:25
Speaker
You know, you push against that red line like it's not right for them to react, but like they're going to read. They're going to react. What are you going to mean? But my point is that like that was just that was a an assault on another country.
00:17:43
Speaker
That wasn't you were not at risk of being attacked. Like, I mean, they would say they are because of the and but the, you know, the flirting with NATO and shit like that. But either way, my only point was they did it. Nothing happened.
00:17:55
Speaker
Nothing happened. and We fought. We gave we gave some stuff to, you know, Ukraine and pretended like we were on their team. But and zen then then we had Israel now. Then we have Israel and Gaza. And now we go to Venezuela like there in the past like few years.

US Military and Defense Limitations

00:18:11
Speaker
It's just this new worldwide precedent is set that there are no more. And there's an international law was made up. It doesn't matter. It was pretend you can do whatever you want. Might makes right. And then as soon as like the only thing that's going to stop this, like, I don't even know what stops this. What like what?
00:18:29
Speaker
I mean, we're talking now Trump's like, we need Cuba. We're going to invade Cuba. Like he's so fucking hard for this shit now that it's like, it's like, well, he's about to get real flat. Stop. Yeah. This is not going to work out. No, this is good. This is not going to work out at all. The pain is only going to get worse on this too, because you know, and if, if at this point, like there's some of this stuff that you haven't heard, like, I don't know, you need to switch up like news sources or whatever, but like the crazy thing,
00:18:56
Speaker
So talking about like, you know, like the claims of like the number one terrorism sponsor and stuff like that. Like the other thing that we've got into is this, this idea of like American military superiority and like our untouchable, like technological advantage and stuff like the iron dome, the, the, the PR around the iron dome is incredible. Like we all have this idea that like, it's just an untouchable force, you know, and it's not, know,
00:19:26
Speaker
Go look at some TikTok videos of what's going on in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv right now. They are getting hammered. And the you know the fact of the matter is is that interceptor missiles like we use to to defend against like incoming rockets and stuff like that are super expensive, and we don't have many of them. They're like five times the cost of the missiles that they're hitting. It's like... Yeah, if not it's not more. it might like It might be more. And we use what?
00:19:53
Speaker
A minimum of like... three to five to try to knock down a a missile. Yeah.

Rhetoric and Foreign Policy Critique

00:19:59
Speaker
And then, and you know, those are like drone, like suicide drones and rockets. Like, you know, if you start talking about like sub supersonic missiles or ultrasonic, whatever you, whatever the word is for it, like they do not work against those.
00:20:13
Speaker
They're extremely hard to stop. And yeah, you have to use like five, six of them to, to knock down some of these things that, you know, to effectively defend against them. Iran has tons of these things. Yeah.
00:20:25
Speaker
In fact, during the 12-day war last summer, just during that 12-day period, we used up 25% of the U.S.'s total stockpile of interceptor missiles in 12 days. And now Trump's talking that we're going to do this for four to six weeks and then it's all going to be over. like That's the thing. Victory means a lot. the The terms of victory for the Iranians is a very flexible thing. If they can just outlast our interceptor missile stockpile, then every single rocket or drone they fire at any direction is a direct hit.
00:21:02
Speaker
I mean, yes. and and ah And then they hold the cards. They they hold leverage at that point. Wait until the the Israeli regime has to start explaining to their citizens how they prioritize using those interceptor rockets, because they're not going to just they're not going to throw them up at just anything and everything that comes into play. Like some targets are going to get hit and they're going to have to be cool with that.
00:21:25
Speaker
You know, it's just like you're not going to conduct this kind of operation with impunity anymore. Nobody has that like, you know, domineering military might that we did in the wake of World War Two when every other nation was in flames except for us.
00:21:41
Speaker
We don't have that. We are not that anymore. And we can maybe impose our will on Cuba, but we're not going to be able to impose it on Iran or whoever else. Did you see the um the claims that were coming out after we ah kidnapped Maduro about... um Oh, okay. Two things.

Preemptive Strikes and Political Motivations

00:22:01
Speaker
First, real quick, I want to make this connection.
00:22:03
Speaker
Because the other thing that's wild about something Trump just said is... um Obviously, when we kidnapped Maduro, he wanted to do this whole like, all right, Maduro, you need to say that you interfered in the 2020 election. and And now, now he's saying he just like flippantly off the cuff was like,
00:22:25
Speaker
accused Iran of interfering in the 2020 election. for the that That's never talked about before. No one said that. the only motivating thing for him. he's It's crazy. It's like, it's like ah I don't know, it's just election fraud Tourette's at this point. He can't he can't have ah like ah he can't have like a ah a thought or a conversation without accusing somebody of stealing the 2020 election from them.
00:22:51
Speaker
um So that's wild. like so So far, our justification for going for bombing Iran is they might have had ah stole the 2020 election from Trump. um They were trying to obtain nuclear capabilities, which this is nuts.
00:23:09
Speaker
During the negotiations, first of all, no, God, it's so hard. You can't talk about one thing without pulling on 15 threads. Yeah. They were concerned about the nuclear capabilities that Trump very clearly, without mincing words, stated that we fully destroyed back in June when we bombed them. Of course. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:28
Speaker
Now, all a sudden, a few months later, they're like back on top. It's a major risk. During the negotiations, I forget which news site. Was it Dropsite News that that put this one out? I forget. um But it was during the negotiations, Iran supposedly agreed to zero nuclear and, ah yeah, I mean, uranium enrichment. Zero. They're like, all right, fine. We'll do none. We'll do none. We'll go back to this agreement that we had under Obama. We're good with none. And they said no and bombed him 24 hours later.

Global Political Dynamics

00:24:01
Speaker
yeah it's It's crazy. The negotiations were just stalling tactic so that they could position all their aircraft carriers. and Right. And then our our request for a ceasefire was just an opportunity to reload.
00:24:11
Speaker
Yeah. And they turned it down. They're like no, fuck you. How about instead of a ceasefire, we bomb more of your shit? It's. It's nuts. They have to make this hurt now. I mean, that's the only way through it is to make it really hurt. they need but For all of the their neighbors, you know, places like Dubai, dude, they they have to light that place up because it needs to be so painful of an experience that we're not in the same exact position a year from now talking about how we got to go in and stop their nuclear program or whatever. Now it's now it's their missile program. Dude, Carolyn Levitt today was like, we have to make sure that they can't manufacture IEDs anymore, like improvised explosive devices. Like, what are you even talking about?
00:24:54
Speaker
Right. You could do that in your garage. Gregging morons. Dude, they spilled the beans yesterday on it. Like, I forget, Hegseth and Rubio, I think both came out. um And Mike Johnson, all three in different ways, came out and said that, like, the reason we attack them is because Israel was going to attack them. And we knew that.
00:25:13
Speaker
if they did attack them, that Iran was definitely going to attack our bases and stuff like that. So we decided to strike preemptively. It's like, yeah, and they left out the part where they're actually only doing it because Netanyahu has blackmail on the entire United States regime. Yeah.
00:25:30
Speaker
And he owns us. He owns the United States. We're just it's crazy because we talk all this shit about like it feels like it's a sleep. It's like a sleeper agent situation um like All this time we've been talking about the color revolutions that the United States launches, all the regime change wars, everything we do. And then also it's just like this weird, like plot twist at the end of a cool movie where you're like, it turns out we've been MK ultra this whole time. Yeah.
00:26:02
Speaker
And now we're just like, where we're actually Israel's puppet. They've been the ones in charge this whole time. but They played the long game so good.

Satire and Media's Role in Shaping Opinions

00:26:12
Speaker
i mean, they've been playing this long game for like 40 years. Yeah.
00:26:15
Speaker
yeah Yeah. I mean, I got to say, i i hate them. It's disgusting. They're despicable. But I'm kind of proud of them. I mean, that type of patience, the U.S. could learn something from. we it's ah It's a Palpatine-esque plan.
00:26:31
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty good. It would make a good movie. You could just see Netanyahu being like, unlimited power! The problem with making it a movie is no one's going to watch anything to do with Israel anymore. I actually been wanting to see this. I don't on Apple TV. There's a show that seemed to have pretty good reviews called Tehran.
00:26:52
Speaker
I don't, I, it has something to do with some like Mossad agent. don't know. It's like a pass. ah Yeah. It's like a spy thriller kind of thing. And I, had I'm like, it looks,
00:27:03
Speaker
People say it's good. Its reviews are good. I haven't watched it because I just can't sit down and watch any more Israeli propaganda. Do you remember? You know, it's funny because it was like even before I had really fully broken out of that that mindset.
00:27:19
Speaker
But there was I was like scrolling through like ah HBO Go when I was traveling all the time. And there was a show about like the Seven Days War.
00:27:31
Speaker
that from like the 60s or whatever. Okay. And it was about Israel being invaded by all their like neighboring countries or whatever. And I remember like sitting down to watch it thinking like, oh, this will be interesting. Like I've only I don't really know a whole lot about that conflict, just that they won, you know. And then saw that it was narrated by Sacha Baron Cohen and you weren't so sure about it anymore. Boy, I'll put a pin in that. Yeah. I remember like sitting down to watch it and I made it through like the first episode and I'm like, God, this really feels like just a blatant puff piece.
00:28:08
Speaker
I don't think I can watch this. I was still in the mindset of like, you know, Israel's like our our ally and this and that. Yeah, so a while back, I sent you an article that I was kind of shocked by about Sacha Baron Cohen.
00:28:23
Speaker
And at the time, it was still early enough where it was like, is this legit or is this kind of, you know, like an anti-Semitic thing or drawing connections wherever? But like, it basically outlines... Like Charlie in episode of It's Always Sunny where he's got that map and all the strings and fucking shit. Yeah, Pepe Sylvia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like that type of conspiracy.
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah, and it was like talking about like his connections to the Israeli government and he's basically a propagandist chill and it really like, you know, parts of Borat and stuff were pretty funny, but like yeah looking back on it, it's kind of gross now. You know, he created like this absurdist caricature of like a Muslim man, kind of de ah like defamed an entire country And, ah you know, the dictator is another one. I mean, that was clearly supposed to be, you know, a lot of their rivals in the Middle East and whatnot.
00:29:23
Speaker
I don't know. Ali G was another one. He's always like a Middle Eastern man, ah just like making it seem ridiculous. um and It's funny because at the time, you there were parts of you that felt like you go it's it's it's satire. So for him to be like, oh, like they do this. and like to make those like I can't even come up with this specific example. But like it's always those goofy parallels where he he pretends like it's normal to do this and because that's what they do in his country. And you're like, oh, they're satirizing it
00:29:59
Speaker
like the heinousness of it but really they're like the the article was really fucking interesting and it it was more of like a calculated effort to fly under the radar under the guise of um satire while reinforcing negative stereotypes um to kind of western culture in the middle of the war on terror too where like you know Everybody was was ready and willing to you know chastise Muslim countries and

Cultural Perceptions of Islam

00:30:33
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stuff. It is surprising to me, you know kind of like i was saying before, like some of the conservative people that I know and stuff, they still are kind of on this beating this dead horse of
00:30:44
Speaker
you know ah Islam is like some enemy of the West and they're like a danger to us and stuff. And it's like, what exactly have they I mean, they've we've just been like taking chunks out of them for decades now, you know, like what exactly are they a danger to us for?
00:31:05
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Right. Because they're the number one sponsor of terrorism, dude. Come on. You don't get it yet. Right. There's so much terrorism. Have you heard of Hezbollah?
00:31:14
Speaker
Hezbollah? No one says it right. It says it feels say different every time. Dude, but your point that dude this is um your point to the way that we have caricaturized Islam. Look, I'm not Muslim.
00:31:29
Speaker
I don't care for it personally. I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with Islam the same way I have a problem with the end result of most religions. It doesn't always do the thing that you would think it would do for you.
00:31:43
Speaker
Sometimes it makes you a worse person. That is not unique to Islam. It's not. We do a lot of stories on pastors getting arrested here and they...
00:31:55
Speaker
despite devoting their life to the faith, it didn't make them better. They're not, it doesn't make you better. This whole conversation that we had at Liberty and in evangelicalism about sanctification, ah it's bullshit.
00:32:08
Speaker
Every old person, all the olds are worse than the youngs. They always are. I know that's ageist, but look at old Christians. They suck. They can often be worse. They just like wrap their racism and their like classism and their,
00:32:22
Speaker
homophobia and, you know, oh, Christian rhetoric. It's fine. They're old. That's what they think no matter what. They just, that's the language they use. It's fine. It's just, religion is just there.
00:32:34
Speaker
It's just there. And it it, if that's the language you're going to use, all I see is what kind of person you really are and how you use that as a tool to, you get what you want out

Religious Practices and Personal Values

00:32:48
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of life. And that, that, that's it. And it can be good. It can be bad. So it has the same pitfalls of every religion. Yeah. It's not different. It's the same.
00:32:57
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And I will say that culture, like, don't know if culturally speaking, there are some setups. I'm not sure if there's quote unquote progressive,
00:33:09
Speaker
Islam. Like I know there kind of is, you know, the ones that want women to drive. Uh, but like i when I was in college for getting my master's, I had, there was a good, it was a varied assignment of just putting yourself in a, in a space where you would be uncomfortable, not uncomfortable, but out of your element, have zero connection to what the fuck was going on.
00:33:32
Speaker
Um, so I reached out to, uh, a ah What the fuck? and I'm already forgetting the right terminology. Muslim house of worship.
00:33:44
Speaker
Mosque? myth Thank you. Jesus Christ. A mosque. I reached out to the imam at a mosque. um And explained who I was and what I was doing. um And he's like, yeah, we'd we'd love to have you. i'll be i'll i'll I'll meet you there at the front door because, you know, this is going to, it's unusual for you. He was wonderful. My correspondence with him was truly great. um So you get there, you have to take your shoes off.
00:34:11
Speaker
Um, we go upstairs. but the thing that, the thing that was the hardest for me to get past was there's a like a line, uh, in the back and all the women and children have to be like behind that line. And then all the men are in front of that line. And that I understand, like, I understand I'm bringing my own cultural bias into this. Um,
00:34:35
Speaker
That, you know, you can you can live your life as a Muslim attending the mosque under those stipulates like under that type of structure and and just be a a wonderful family, um you know, an egalitarian couple, whatever. So, like...
00:34:55
Speaker
I'm done with the caveats. Now I'm just going to say, but like the piece, but it was like, that was uncomfortable for me. That was fucking weird coming from, coming from evangelicalism. What to go off racist King. Yeah. But that was super weird for me. And I go, I could, despite there being things that I liked about it, like I, because I don't really think that I think religion is mostly just a skin you wear.
00:35:20
Speaker
um And that you can find, like, i think there are good things about it. I, that sounds dismissive and people who are Christian hate when you say that shit, but like, um, my point is like, you can be Christian or you can be Muslim and you can assent to the same, like understanding of your position in this world and how you, but like what you believe God to be and how that spurs you to live a better life. And that's dope. Um, but,
00:35:49
Speaker
So there are times where I'm like, just to almost like it would be cool to just be like, I'm going to do this really. I'm going to, I'm going to dive really hard into this religion. um And but it's certain things like that that would make it like because it would for me it would just be like, yeah, I can. I'll just use this language to access the thing that I'm trying to access. But because of that kind of stuff, I do have a hard time with it. I don't think I could practice religion in a space where the women are required to be separate from the men.
00:36:22
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That would be too uncomfortable for me. Yeah, I mean, i think there's probably there's probably a host of things at most evangelical churches that would kind of echo the same sorts of sentiment, even if they look a little different. You're totally right.
00:36:38
Speaker
I think ultimately— like Which is why I'm not there either. We attribute a lot more— um you know, motivational importance to other people's religion than is probably warranted. Yes. Yeah. yeah yeah i By and large, like, I think people sculpt their religious views around their preexisting values in

Extremism and Societal Despair

00:37:02
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a lot of ways. Like, yes, maybe their, their faith changes them and the way they act in certain, so you know, in certain areas of their life. But like, like like with Shia LaBeouf.
00:37:12
Speaker
ah Right, right, right. You know, perfect example. But like, The same thing goes for like for Russell Brand. American Christians take what they want from Christianity and then they put the rest in the back pocket and they don't worry about it. You know, they make Christianity reinforce their views on lots of different things. yeah it's almost to the It's almost like it's pointless to even argue with them about what Christianity actually means in a lot of instances. Yeah.
00:37:42
Speaker
So like, i don't know. I think the other thing too is that like, you know, when you see extremism, like all of the programming that we've been through over, you know the course of our lives and the war on terror and stuff like that, like all of that has designated like religion as the motivating factor in that extremism. But I think it's, you know, like suffering and hopelessness breeds extremism a lot more than like religious doctrine. and And ultimately, like, I think where you see terrorism and things like that pop up are in places where people are in despair and they have no hope. Like most people want to have a family and raise their kids and maybe own a business or, you know, save up a little money for themselves and their kids and stuff like that. Like that's universal. That's what humans kind of want to do. Yeah. when that is unavailable to them
00:38:35
Speaker
they move to extremes and naturally so. And you'll see it everywhere. Dude, like if you like, you know, just going back to Ukraine, like nothing to do with Islam or really Christianity or anything like that. Like there are some extremist sects in Ukraine that have popped up out of the, you know, just the despair that that country has experienced in like during the USSR's reign over them during the transitional, like post-Cold War era. And now, I mean, we're going to see a bunch more of that, you know, as a result of this war that's been ongoing and, you know, is probably going to stay

Religious Rhetoric in Military Actions

00:39:13
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ongoing. Like, that's what people do, you know? Suffering breeds extremism. And that's why it's, like, so important to, like, that's that's one of the lingering effects of war that, like,
00:39:25
Speaker
you have to factor in like there's no yeah quick and easy in and out war that starts and finishes and everything's clean and happy afterwards. Like the lingering effects are a lot of times more gruesome and bleak than the war itself.
00:39:40
Speaker
that That kind of brings me back to it but before I went off on that tangent. um So now a couple things. Three things. First, um I listened. There was an interview. it was on a mainstream news network. I watched it through another clip. um But it was some Iranian official or a professor who was like, yeah, I mean, most of the kids here, most of the kids here didn't understand their parents or their grandparents hatred to the, to the United States. They knew the pop culture. They knew like, they they were just like, yeah, whatever we're, we're, we're fine. Like that's their thing.
00:40:17
Speaker
And we all know that like everyone here has that like grandparent that hated a certain country because of something that happened when they were in their twenties. you know like that that's a thing and so now though like so for ah for for them to cite terrorism sponsoring terrorism as one of the reasons for bombing iran is like the the irony being that they have just created an entirely new generation of potential future terrorists like Yeah, take everything from those people and see what happens. Yeah, depending on how hard we go, we are sealing our fate for future terrorism with them.
00:40:55
Speaker
Secondly, my commenting on the United States, ah before I went off on that dumb tangent, ah the United States in our cultural understanding of Islam, right? is Oh, it's it's violent.
00:41:09
Speaker
They call for jihad. blah, blah, blah, blah. All this stuff that we pretend and people pretend to know, but don't really know anything about that's debated within Islam itself. Um, the irony is we're there now. We made it guys. We get to ring that bell. We are doing Holy war. It's so cool because we just had us troops are, to to are saying that, um,
00:41:34
Speaker
Hegseth was like, yeah, like Trump is anointed and we're basically like launching this war is going to bring about Armageddon. So look that up because that's stupid. Like it's hundreds of soldiers have been reporting that this is the information that they're getting. So we are now.
00:41:52
Speaker
An ethnostate! Congratulations, we made it. This is everything that my family and my homeschool group and my teen-packed groups, all that stuff, they all hoped we'd get here one day, and we did.

Public Sentiment Towards Military Conflicts

00:42:06
Speaker
So we are now officially at the same level of what we've accused Islam to be this whole time. We are now on a jihad.
00:42:13
Speaker
We've made it. We are jihad-ing the country of Iran. So here again, this is like one of the things that's kind of interesting about, you know, like by and large, people do not support this war.
00:42:24
Speaker
Like the polling is abysmal. This is the high watermark probably for it. You know, like they they they sold it so poorly that probably the best numbers they're going to get out of this is 25 percent that support the war.
00:42:38
Speaker
And that's the 25% who would get on their knees and gobble Trump's cock if he walked into the same room as them and told them to do it. Right. Like they're in. they're full They're in. They will spread their cheeks for Trump no matter what.
00:42:54
Speaker
So I saw this post on Reddit and the Christian, the true Christian subreddit earlier. And I, I actually found this a little like encouraging.
00:43:05
Speaker
Somebody says is a true Christian subreddit. Yeah, it's our slash true Christian. Nice. So this is, can someone explain the end time stuff to me like I'm five? I'm here because of of a quote I saw from a U.S. military commander telling his troops that Trump was, quote, anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth.
00:43:27
Speaker
My goodness, I wasn't raised evangelical, so sometimes I see these things and immediately think it's insane, but I try not to judge too fast in case there's something I'm just missing. Why do so many think like this? Is it even biblical? The church I was raised in did not teach us to think like this. Growing up, I was taught to live my life with Christian values and honor and serve God.
00:43:47
Speaker
There wasn't really emphasis on much regarding the end times as at all, as we know it'll eventually come and there will be signs, but we won't know exactly when." Isn't saying something like this blasphemous? Are we as humans able to usher Jesus' return from for him to come sooner? Why are we trying to cause Armageddon? I know we all want to eventually be with Jesus, but I thought no one knows when he'll come. Is the recent bombing of Iran really another sign of the end times slash that it's coming closer?
00:44:16
Speaker
Things like this are so, so hard for me to understand, honestly, and a bit scary, especially with it ingrained in American government. I don't really know what to do with all of this." So that's pretty valid question from somebody who's actually trying to wrestle

Societal Discourse and Controversial Topics

00:44:30
Speaker
with it. And dude, almost every response in here is like, yeah, this is blasphemous. Like there's different schools of thoughts on things, but like, yeah, anybody who says that they can usher in Jesus's return or knows when he's going to return is, is a false prophet or whatever. Like it they're almost universally negative in the, in the ah responses, which there are a lot of
00:44:54
Speaker
Nice. That's nice. That's encouraging. i um i don't I don't know what the vibe is would in my area. i um I don't talk about that. like you i like that you have the privilege. i think I'll call it a privilege and an opportunity to like actually have... like ah you have an average You actually have these conversations with people, subtly to a degree. like You're not probably going super hard on it, but like these conversations come up for you in your day-to-day environments. um
00:45:29
Speaker
It seems like you know for if you're able to have these conversations with people you work with and people on your team, like they're they're not getting weird. It's just like a cordial conversation about how you see things. And that...
00:45:44
Speaker
To me, that shows that is healthy and that is an opportunity for um
00:45:53
Speaker
potential for growth or change or something like that. Like the world I live in, we walk on eggshells. No one says shit. We don't talk about So I can't tell. I don't know like where family members might be with this. I can Make some inferences based on a couple of things that I won't specifically mention, but I may have sent you a picture of something earlier that makes me assume that some people in my family are very much ah in full-blown blind support of everything this motherfucker does. But other people, I don't know. I'm not sure. i want to know. And no one wants to talk about it it's like, it just...
00:46:35
Speaker
You just don't. You just don't. Otherwise, things get weird. um So, like, i there i don't there's no space in my life where I'm having conversations with people that I don't agree with about important things. I kind of miss that. That was a nice thing about college, despite the fact that I was wrong and on the wrong side of almost everything in college.
00:46:59
Speaker
But it was those conversations that helped me. I shifted because of those types of conversations with people I cared about and people I thought

Family Dynamics and Political Beliefs

00:47:10
Speaker
were good people. So it is like, like, so to go from that over, like, and then i have like, and to not have that, like over time you go, this is why people don't change. Because, like, if I'm not having these conversations, they're not having these conversations with people who think different. Like, we're all just silently living in a space together and uncomfortably with the tension ah and just moving on. Like, we don't...
00:47:37
Speaker
it's stupid. It's really stupid. It's really fucking stupid that no one can talk about anything and that we just have to like sit there and feel uncomfortable about the fact that we're all thinking about the same fucking thing. Like tonight, uh, I try to avoid talking about this side of the family in regard to anything. And there's nothing specific. Um, but like, was that my in-laws? Uh, my brother-in-law is in the air force. Um, so there was some conversation about having your 48 hour bag ready or something like that. Uh, And it was just weird to me. Everything was eggshells. It was like, yeah, you know, stuff going on. We talked so-and-so about this and that. And, oh, did anyone else talk to him? And then, like, one of my wife's brothers like, yeah, I did. And it was just like this weird conversation where we're all kind of like floating around.
00:48:27
Speaker
Like trying to talk about his life as someone who's in the Air Force, but not able to actually talk about anything. No, it's just like the most weirdly neutral conversation about the worst fucking thing of all in my life that like I can remember that's happening.
00:48:43
Speaker
You're right. I feel like so. especially just having some conversations about it this weekend, like there's a lot of doubt about this. Like there's not a lot of solid sentiment behind it. You know, like people don't really think this is a good idea. Some of them are trying to be troopers about it.
00:49:03
Speaker
You know, be true real yeah trooper they're throw on the chin. They're trying to like, be like, well, you know, I mean, I think, uh, You know, they must have a plan in mind, you know, or else why would they why would they go bomb em and It's like because there's they do have a plan in mind. It's, ah you know, Bibi Netanyahu's plan. It's bad for us, you know? Yeah. But they're trying to, like, hold out hope that maybe there's some grand design behind it, like everything else with Trump,

Media Consumption and Political Understanding

00:49:31
Speaker
you know? The other thing, though, is like the people who are still just like supporting some of this stuff, like at the surface level, just because it's Trump and they like Trump and that's that, you know, they're not following this stuff very closely.
00:49:46
Speaker
Yeah, they're casual observers. Like we had a discussion this weekend. They were talking about whoever, you know, they're they're blasting Elon Omar and something, you know, and they said somebody said something about like politicians being bought off and stuff. And one of the guys said, Well, all but one.
00:50:05
Speaker
And I said, who do you mean? And he's like, well, Trump. Shut up. it was like the time It was like the one time that I slipped into like a little bit mean. And I said, I was just like, are you freaking serious, dude?
00:50:19
Speaker
He's like, yeah. I'm like, he took $100 million dollars from Miriam Adelson, not to mention like how much money he took from Elon Musk. like He's taken money all over the place. His net worth has raised by $1.2 billion dollars since he took office last year. It's almost $5 billion now. Oh God, it's worse. I think it's, you I think it's four last time I saw it like over a month ago, it was 4.4 before he hawked a new scam.
00:50:46
Speaker
He goes, so he said something along the lines of like, Oh yeah. Well, who's, I don't know. i don't know who that is. And then he immediately like his response after that was like, you know,
00:50:59
Speaker
When I was growing up, like people didn't really know about all this stuff. like Nobody really talked about this kind of stuff all the time. Now it's like everybody everybody's reading about it all the time and stuff. like Buddy, I don't know what to tell you here. but oh Back when I was growing up, you could just say whatever lie you wanted and nobody knew enough to check you on it. And you could believe your own made-up react like fansy fantasy world. I don't... I can't believe I want to go back to that where people can't challenge my well line of thinking and I can just say things frivolously.
00:51:31
Speaker
I think I think everybody kind of walks into those situations and conversations, assuming that like other people are following this stuff as closely as they are. And in just in a lot of cases, they aren't. So and they make some offhanded comment about like supporting ice or something like your immediate reaction is like, oh, you see all the awful things that they're doing and you still like support them like you're disgusting or whatever, like.
00:51:56
Speaker
I think a lot of them just... They're not following this stuff at all. Right. And they're following not really an excuse, but it

Metaphors for Political Chaos

00:52:03
Speaker
reality. mean, think... They're only following it from a perspective that's bolstering their narrative. So, like, they're not... They're literally not hearing why...
00:52:12
Speaker
like why the execution of pretty and the execution of good was like actual murder. Like they're not hearing that. They're not hearing. Oh, well, yeah you know, didn't she try to run him run over the cop?
00:52:26
Speaker
Right. There's like, obviously ah, no. but do you want to hear ah You want to hear some responses to this guy's post? This is my favorite one. um So OKSafe7316 says, In the Old Testament, Levite priests were anointed with animal blood on the right ear, thumb, and big toe. This is what happened to Trump when he was shot in his ear in the attempt to assassinate him. Remember, he had taken off his shoes.
00:52:52
Speaker
This is a clear sign he is anointed by God for a purpose. Whether Trump is meant to bring in Armageddon, I don't know. Nice. Oh my God, dude. So stupidde this isn't Reddit, but I have, I'm going to read something.
00:53:05
Speaker
I'm going to assume my friend, I'm not going to, I won't say names. He's probably not going to listen to this. He occasionally does listen. He probably wouldn't even mind if I, you know, shared his name. I've referenced him him before, but I've never, I don't mention his name. um Cause I don't do that to people, but he, I'm going to read something he wrote.
00:53:24
Speaker
It's it. it's This guy's a he's an English teacher. um I've talked before about how I appreciate the way that he kind of brings.
00:53:37
Speaker
He has a way of bringing life to writing in. and Man, I'm trying to remember what it was. The last time I talked about him, it was just on the podcast. It had to do with something he had wrote. And I was like, it's beautiful. Like, it's just he has a way of just explaining things and a grasp of the English language that is intentional.
00:54:00
Speaker
um So he put this on Facebook. And it's just a yeah little metaphor. But so yesterday I took a bus into the city and about five minutes into the trip, the driver started behaving weird.
00:54:15
Speaker
First of all, he referred to himself in the third person, which is always a sign and saying that he owned everything that we were passing his city hall, his stores, his forest.
00:54:27
Speaker
All of this, by the way, without a mic, he was just shouting things back at us. Far more importantly, his driving was way too fast and erratic and grew worse as the trip went on. At first, he kept turning at the last possible minute.
00:54:41
Speaker
Then, about a third of the way, he started to blow through stop signs, like not even pause, just flew through them. I counted at least three plus a red light. Cars were blaring their horns at us, and they and they and the guy would just scream back at them, asshole, etc.
00:55:00
Speaker
The people sitting around me were looking around at each other, honestly panicked. There were actually a couple people up front that started like cheering him on as he blew through the red light. It was complete chaos.
00:55:13
Speaker
The absolute worst bus run I ever had. This was only... Supposed to be a four hour ride and less than an hour into it, I was looking for a way off.

Public Reactions to Political Events

00:55:23
Speaker
At one point, a few people up in the front of me started shouting up to him, please pull over.
00:55:29
Speaker
But he completely ignored them and just kept on going. Then he picked up his radio, said something unintelligible into it, and completely steered into the wrong lane. Cars had to pull off the road and avoid us.
00:55:39
Speaker
This is what it feels like for me to be living in our country right now. It's chaos, and I'm just praying and gripping the seat in front of me. Wasn't it just a couple weeks ago that people were talking?
00:55:51
Speaker
We're taking the street, taking to the street in defiance of ice, killing our own citizens, Epstein's bullshit. And now I ran just steering us into chaos. And all I can do is pray that someone somewhere far smarter than the complete maniac driving our bus knows what we are doing.
00:56:07
Speaker
And this is where it starts to feel like Reddit. There's this guy who will not stop commenting on everything he posts relentlessly. He can't stop. It's like pathological.
00:56:19
Speaker
I almost want to dox him, but I won't because I'm better than that. And he goes, have you asked the families of illegal alien murder victims or Iranian and Venezuelan civilians who are today dancing in the streets, their thoughts on the matter?
00:56:35
Speaker
Oh my word, is this an Israeli bot? And this is what I mean. Like, this is, this is what you're talking about. This is like, what is this guy watching? This guy doesn't know anything. He got a ah lot of people responded. Well, some people were like, I agree. Very cool. You're really smart.
00:56:55
Speaker
um But he just like really has this in a, he always is like, oh man, I wanted to find more of what he said. Cause, oh, here we go. He sorry, scrolling back up.
00:57:09
Speaker
People responded. What would you say the Venezuelans say? What would you say to the Iranians of Venezuelans? Would you say, I'm glad you're happy, but you weren't supposed to be free yet.
00:57:21
Speaker
You weren't supposed to be liberated that way or by that president. I'm pretty sure the Iranian people in Venezuelans are very thankful, regardless of whether you approve of the method of the or the timing.
00:57:33
Speaker
And my friend responds, exactly my point. It's only if, well, whatever. ah If only our president wasn't a narcissist, liar in chief, I would be able to celebrate us li liberating an oppressed country from a violent regime. But we all know the overflowing empathy that our president has for brown skin foreigners from highly oppressed countries.

Critical Thinking in Political Narratives

00:57:55
Speaker
He isn't trustworthy. And so the whole thing falls into the trenches of bullshit that he has been digging.
00:58:02
Speaker
And I and I get to hold on for dear life with no trust whatsoever for what he's doing. so It's like, yeah, like it's the irony of this of this guy being like he really is trying to liberate these two specific countries. Like, what are you talking about? There's no liberate. You can't just liberate countries. It doesn't work again. Millions of upon millions years and see how free they are.
00:58:25
Speaker
Right. So it ah the last one I'll read is just another reply from the guy who thinks Venezuelans and Iranians are dancing in the street, which also to just show the low IQ state of a person like this is like you can always find video. Like, yeah, I'm not going to I'm not going to bat saying Maduro was the man like I i don't. From what I know, he sucks.
00:58:50
Speaker
I'm not going to go to bat for the Ayatollah. I don't know anything about him. I don't actually know anything about the current modern day politics of Iran. All I know is that if you can find some people celebrating their death, that does not justify an illegal and offensive war ever. It doesn't.
00:59:08
Speaker
No. Because if someone blew Trump, if if the if the Ayatollah of Iran blew Trump's fucking head off, on screen for us to witness how many motherfuckers would be dancing in the streets. Are you going to use that as the barometer for justice? That that was okay? That they made the right choice? Obviously fucking not.
00:59:28
Speaker
It's so stupid. These people can't actually... with Everything they say, they actually don't follow it through to any logical conclusion. If you just kind of Just pick it on it a little more. It's like you can't get there. You're really dumb. It's just team sports. He has no investment in any of that stuff. It's just... his guy did this thing. So he's going to go to bat for it. Like it's, it's a game. He seems really passionate about how Venice was an Iranians feel. I would venture to guess that he spends most of his life thinking about it based on the sincerity of the way that he approaches this topic.
01:00:01
Speaker
yeah millions upon millions millions I bet he doesn't even know the population of Iran I don't know the population of Iran but I would never go out of my way to suggest that millions and millions of people were doing anything unless I had the specifics um no millions upon millions of good Iranians Venezuelans I like that he thinks some Iranians are good though he's like I just want to be clear I don't think all Iranians are bad there's a lot of good ones non-Muslim ones and non-communist Venezuelans What do you what do you have to say about the brown skinned Americans who agree with the president's immigration enforcement? I would say they haven't been targeted yet. That's my I would say they have not gone to alligator Auschwitz.
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, it is funny. to and Their child used as bait to arrest them. Yeah, it it is funny. it's like It's kind of like when somebody starts arguing about like the treatment like the basic human treatment of people and and like the pro-subjugation sect will be like...
01:01:08
Speaker
Like, well, they're not American citizens and we don't have to like treat them as such. It's like well this isn't about Americans versus non-Americans. It's about basic human rights. They apply to everybody. All men are created equal. That's kind of like a foundational principle in your document, your right you know favorite document, right?
01:01:27
Speaker
Dude, we're in hell. We're just it's all hell. It's all chaos. It's like zero consistent like the right is zero consistency zero consistency there's no significant contingency of people that support this war so like it's all gonna crumble now because like yeah when gases jumps you know at a dollar fifty a gallon and and that's one of the biggest indicators too like that and that also shows you how stupid we are as people like The worst shit can be going on in

Economic Concerns and Public Sentiment

01:01:59
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the world. And if gas goes over $4 a gallon, that's it, dude. Approval rating in the toilet. No president can survive.
01:02:07
Speaker
can No president's approval rating can survive, you know, 380 a gallon for the only economic yardstick that like. but We as a nation understand. It's because it's the only it's the only price point we drive by 17 times a day that's advertised on a flashing billboard. We don't notice the $1,700 extra dollars we spent this year as a family due to Trump's tariffs, which is way more than we'd spend on gas if it goes up an extra dollar. What gas prices are to the average American
01:02:39
Speaker
To me, it's ah it's it's the cost of a large Diet Coke for McDonald's, okay which fluctuates a lot. and It's concerning. It's very concerning. I feel like we might be above $2 pretty soon, and I just don't know that I can i can withstand that budgetarily. you know I know that when mike for my kids' last basketball game, they wanted me to get them some Gatorades.
01:03:04
Speaker
and I got... Gatorades are nuts. two twenty Maybe it was two twenty was it the 24-ounce ones. the twenty it Probably 20 or 24-ounce Gatorades. Models that don't fit in any cup holder. Yeah. It was two for five, two for $5.50.
01:03:20
Speaker
And when you think about it, 20 ounces of Gatorade costs more than a gallon of gas. It's like water and rock salt. That's crazy. Yeah. That's a little food coloring. Everyone complained about the price of gas and you can't get 20 ounces of Gatorade for under $4. Dude, nobody, nobody can afford and can afford to buy one Gatorade.
01:03:44
Speaker
You have to buy two or economic. It's just like throwing away your, your future. That, that, that is one beverage that is always like buy to get a discount on ever. Always two for five or one for eight.
01:03:59
Speaker
I don't know why they don't they don't do that for cigarettes, honestly. You want to sell more cigarettes, you know, one for $14, two for $20. Perfect. Get two packs of cigarettes, $20. Oh, because, like, you can buy the carton and get a discount, but no one feels like a bigger piece of shit than when they're buying a carton of cigarettes.
01:04:20
Speaker
Yeah. Like I would, you could buy two packs. I don't even smoke, but I'd buy two packs of cigarettes and still feel like a regular adult man that has responsibilities that can go about his life. If I, if I bought a carton of cigarettes, I'd be like, I should probably go to my car and eat a gun.
01:04:36
Speaker
The best is like, this is like, uh,

Christian Dating Dilemmas

01:04:40
Speaker
back in the day when like States varied so much on taxes and like people would drive over the state line to buy like eight cartons of cigarettes and then drive back.
01:04:50
Speaker
And sell the Lucy's. i want to i want to go back my bo i want to I want to go back to people selling Lucy's. yeah Buying cigarettes by the singles. I love that shit.
01:05:03
Speaker
Do you want to hear a couple of fun posts? Can we ah lighten the mood for a bit? Let's lighten the mood. Okay, so checking out Christian dating for these two posts. All right.
01:05:14
Speaker
This one is, this person has posted a couple of things in Christian dating in recent days here. So their username is strict roll.
01:05:26
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It says, please, someone should advise me. Oh, i did I actually read this one earlier today when I was looking for something to share. Advice me harder, daddy. That's all I thought of when I read that. That's why it sticks in head. This is a real pickle, guys.
01:05:42
Speaker
says, I dated a guy for almost two years now. He never told me anything too important about him. He convinced me into falling for him, and I also thought he loved me. Convinced me into falling for him. i don't know a single thing about this guy's life.
01:05:58
Speaker
Even though we had mysterious, as the mystique around it is what made me so attracted to him. Yeah, I thought he loved me. Even though we had issues, but we always solved them. We were good like if we had married, we would have been the best couple. But guess what?
01:06:15
Speaker
There came a day that a woman called me with his phone. He told me that that was her husband and the and the have and the have a kid. I was hurt, but I never believed because he didn't say anything like such to me.
01:06:30
Speaker
I confronted him and he was like, that's the baby mama. He still never wanted to tell the tell me the truth until I made my own findings and I got to know the whole truth.
01:06:42
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this is But nothing but the truth. but I don't think this person's first language is English. I want to believe that. I do want to believe in that. If I had to guess, this is a white man.
01:06:55
Speaker
But then I wife and kid. I've already fallen for him and I don't want to let go of him till date. Please. I need your advice. What do you think I should do? but Break up with him. Duh. ah I think this is a white man who was, has been interested in having an Asian side piece. That's what I think. I don't have a lot of evidence for that, but based on what I know about plenty of white men, it would track.
01:07:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. i like that she's asking for what do I do? I'm the dude's wife called you. What should you do? never believed it. That's the resolution. She called that's the resolution like she calleds you And you go, oh, shit.
01:07:43
Speaker
He never told me that. I guess this is over. Like, you're just like, what do I do? No, I want to keep being the side piece. She never went to his apartment or house. He always went there. Two years.
01:07:55
Speaker
Two years. Yeah. Yeah. if you didn't suspect something, then i don't know. What are you know This guy is pouring money into your pocket. i hope she has a fucking Lambo. I hope like I hope she hasn't paid rent in two years.

Christian Beliefs and Moral Dilemmas

01:08:11
Speaker
I hope she thinks the place they have is their place together. That is as far as she's concerned, his apartment, which is why there's been no questions about can I come to your place tonight?
01:08:23
Speaker
So she has three total posts. So this is a pretty account. So that was posted one day ago. She posted two posts in the Christian dating advice thing four days ago.
01:08:34
Speaker
um So the first one says, Dating Christian. Please, I need someone to help me with this. When unmarried Christian have sex, is it a bad thing? I know funication is a sin, but in this side... are Fun occasions?
01:08:52
Speaker
funication is a sin but in this side they are really certain they will get married all right yes so it's a bad thing for unmarried christians to have sex even if they're sure they'll get married it's a bad thing for unmarried christians to have sex especially when one of them is actually married I think that most of these people that hang around the Christian dating subreddit, like nothing is more of a turn on to them than someone asking if it's okay to have sex.
01:09:20
Speaker
Yeah. So pumped about it. They just like sex is exclusively reserved to marriage alone. All else is sin. If you are a real Christian, you do not put yourself or any other. dude like wolf fire The harder they go against it, the more, you know, they're fucking regularly.
01:09:38
Speaker
And feeling so bad about it, which is so hot. That's why like premarital Christian evangelical sex is so hot. You just like you weighed your options of eternal damnation and you fucked anyway. And you're you'll never come harder than you did when you used to do that. That's it. Like that is your blasting ropes. Your, your cock is throbbing. It is like, that's back in the day when you couldn't believe how hard your penis was. Cause it almost hurt. You're like, nothing is going to tame this beast. It's never being soft again. That's where your jeans would rip first.
01:10:15
Speaker
It was least before my thighs started killing my jeans. You used to get lightheaded from boners. Yeah. So ah the second post on that same day says, advice for my friend.
01:10:28
Speaker
I have a friend who lived all her life in the world. She didn't know God. She had many men, and I said to her to stop all that. Now she wants to leave all that, but she can't because she is used to that. What advice do you have for me, please?
01:10:43
Speaker
ah It's so stupid. Rational Thought Media responds. Thank God somebody jumps in, right? Rational Thought Media says, praying for you both. Are you saved? Is it your job to plant the seed of salvation? That is your first and foremost responsibility.

Purity Culture Critique

01:11:04
Speaker
When it comes to her sin, yes, confront it. But leave it at that. Focus on her finding Jesus. Without him, she will never be able to leave that life. Any chance to read the Bible and pray with her?
01:11:16
Speaker
I like this. Dude, the whole idea that the only people who can hack abstinence are Christians is hilarious to me. It is funny. You can't hack it unless you have Jesus on your on your team. Because it works so well for so many of them. Yeah.
01:11:34
Speaker
There are so many people just who don't have sex. like I know it's weird. like People act like it's weird, but there's a lot of people who aren't having sex like that. No. I mean, yeah, that's kind of like the whole NoFap thing or whatever. There's plenty of culturals that don't do that.
01:11:54
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, so this was the other post that I saw that I thought was kind of funny. um This is from Pleasant Exchange. Says, is this really a huge red flag or is my friend overreacting?
01:12:07
Speaker
I love these. I, 20 male, really like this. This could go in so many, like it could be like, he could just actually define an instance of rape and we'd be like, and he'd be like, is this a red flag?
01:12:20
Speaker
You know, like they the Christian dating world is nuts when it comes to like the how obtuse people are. Yeah, it could be something totally benign or it could be like an abominable thing. It could be like they licked the envelope too hard before they sealed it or like rape. It could be either one.
01:12:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I noticed my thigh squished up against a girl's thigh at choir practice, and I liked it too much. Is that a red flag? This guy reminds me of me when I was that age, ah so I thought it was kind of funny. i Did somebody's cowboy boots turn them on?
01:12:58
Speaker
Really like this girl, 19 female. Recently, a group of us from church, all 18 to 22 ish, three guys and four girls went on a camping trip for a weekend. It was pretty chill. And one night we ended up playing truth or dare around the fire. It was OK.
01:13:14
Speaker
That's the red flag, right? You only play that if you are horny. Yeah, like that's the only reason. It's only for people to dare someone to kiss someone else. Yeah, people pretend Truth or Dare is just like funny, off color. Oh, we're going do some wild. I'm going to dare you to jump in a lake naked. But it's always something like that. Truth or Dare is only for horny singles. That's it. you really ah jumped ahead.
01:13:40
Speaker
yeah you This happens a lot, actually. I will pat myself on the back. It's like no one who has a relationship is playing truth or dare. It's only for single youth group kids.
01:13:54
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, okay. It says, it was pretty tame. Just asking random questions, trying to embarrass each other and silly dares. Anyway, one of the other girls, 21 female, I think dared the girl I like to jump into the river. He thinks she's 21 or he thinks she's a female.
01:14:12
Speaker
yeah It's open to interpretation. So he dared the girl I like to jump into the river naked. That's crazy, dude. I swear to God I didn't read this. at
01:14:26
Speaker
She was just like, okay, and took off her clothes and jumped in and then jumped out and ran to her tent and got a towel. It was pretty dark, but I guess we did all definitely see her naked. the kind The game kind of ended there because everyone was laughing so hard and that was it.
01:14:41
Speaker
It never really came up again. and anyway, a couple weeks ago at church, I asked her out and she said yes. I told my friend about it because I was really excited. He was also on the camping trip and he said it was a bad idea.
01:14:54
Speaker
He said now that we all saw her naked, I shouldn't date her because she's no longer pure. but my God.
01:15:07
Speaker
He was just wanting to ask her out. He wanted to get with her, dude. He's hoping he'll botch it so he can be like, I like I'm pure girl. She's a freak. i i mean that That's nuts.
01:15:20
Speaker
Let's dare her to do something and have absolutely zero culpability. You're on pure too then, bitch. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, you were laughing so hard, remember? Is he just overreacting? I should add that I live in a country where that's where it's not uncommon for girls to go topless at the beach, and I definitely didn't feel like there was anything about her actions that were really sexual.
01:15:41
Speaker
Edit. I ended up texting her about it. She said she's never gotten naked in front of anyone before, but she didn't think it was asexual at all, so it wasn't a big deal. So wherever he lives, topless at the beach is a normal France. So what they saw her butt crack.
01:15:58
Speaker
I mean, in the dark, this see, this is like, this is one of those things that when you're that age and you're a Christian kid, you like get all worked up and worried about. And then later down the road, you're like, boy, I wish I would have just shut up and had a good time and not fretted over something so stupid. Absolutely.
01:16:18
Speaker
It's so funny. I just love that they like they can play truth or dare a very sinful game for youth group students. Dare. You can have the audacity to dare somebody else to take their clothes off and pretend like you don't have any culpability here.
01:16:36
Speaker
that Your mind was in the gutter. Your mind was in the gutter when you asked her to do that, you sinful fuck. So she does it,

Judgmental Attitudes in Relationships

01:16:43
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runs into the lake, goes in her tent, grabs a towel. Ha ha ha.
01:16:47
Speaker
Everyone's... And now... 14 square inches of fabric away from being a normal beach goer is what you're saying. And like, yeah you're like concerned that she might be like the whore of Babylon. No, you can't. That that was he.
01:17:03
Speaker
You're right, dude. He that the guy who's like, no, I don't think it's a good idea. She's on pier now is ah ah dude. I want to go back. He's already texted her about it. Like this relationship is ruined.
01:17:15
Speaker
Yeah. like You've already you've already preemptively. You might as well not go out with her because you've already wrecked it. You overplayed your hand. Hey, um why did you you remember when you did that that thing? Like, why did you do something so slutty? Is that are you normally that gross or is this like was that exceptional what you did?
01:17:35
Speaker
Just wondering because you might not be marriage material. Yeah, I just want to make uncomfortable and kind of position myself in ah in a in in a in a dominance role over you spiritually and emotionally.
01:17:49
Speaker
Hey, I know we haven't gone on one date yet. I just want you to know, I don't think I can in good conscience, marry a woman. Other people have seen naked on the beach. Yeah. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but like, I don't think I can in good conscience, marry someone who's other people have seen their butt cheeks.
01:18:07
Speaker
yeah ah I just keep thinking about how, like, if we got married, you've already like spoiled my wedding gift.
01:18:20
Speaker
I can't help but thinking that if we get married, like if we get like, I don't want to get ahead of myself. Like I know we haven't gone on a date yet, but if we get married, I kind of feel like everyone who played truth or dare with us is in the room with me when I have sex with you for the first time.
01:18:34
Speaker
If it's the first time, it should be the first time, but it doesn't have to be, but it should be. And I'll be, I'll feel bad if it's not. And we'll have to make up for that and pray to God for forgiveness. But dude I could just hear the creepy youth pastor that he's forced to do wedding marriage counseling with before they'll marry him. Like bringing like basically saying that he'll throw her into the bus so fast. dude No, what the way he'll do it is like they'll they'll be meeting with the pastor.
01:19:01
Speaker
And they'll be talking about how they keep getting into some arguments about simple things. Like, I don't know. I just keep getting frustrated. like Well, is there any sexual sin in your past? He's like, well, not for me, but she showed everybody her tits at the youth group camp.
01:19:14
Speaker
And then he'll be like, oh, that's why you guys are arguing so much. It's actually all her fault. And a he'll walk away vindicated. Yeah, and it's just it's just one post after another of of people being like, the fact that you're asking about this really tells you a lot about like how your heart feels. you know like Clearly, you know that this is immoral and wrong.
01:19:38
Speaker
Yeah, or the fact that people are asking about that from an evangelical community is because they've been just so fucking indoctrinated and their feelings are incongruent with what they've been told that their beliefs should be, that they're actually trying to parse it out in real time with other people.
01:19:56
Speaker
The idea that every concern you have is just your conviction is crazy. Yeah, yeah. And like every... Every concern, meaning every little like insecurity that you have.
01:20:10
Speaker
Anytime you feel uncomfortable, like you get to outsource your responsibility for your insecurity to like some sort of like divine pressure from God telling you that like this person is clearly going to lead you away from me.
01:20:25
Speaker
it's the logical it's that has the same logical in logical consistency of Uh, well, my wife and I's relationship hasn't been so like, we've been pretty distant lately. She must be cheating on me. It's that it's the same fucking thing.
01:20:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It just, it's like everybody's worst impulse gets co-opted in this, in this subreddit. There's like every judgmental loser that just can't wait to to like tell someone that they're that they're stupid or not serious about their faith. You know, like they just there's it's just full of these. And the harder they go, it like I said, the harder they go, the worse they jerked off to porn right before they wrote it. that Yeah. Yeah.
01:21:10
Speaker
It just it's it's tried and true, man. And the guy who was like, I don't think it's a good idea to go out with her is you're totally right. it Definitely upset that he didn't ask her out first. He saw her run to the water that night and was like, I think I could be with that. And then he just he didn't shoot a shot fast enough. And now he's trying to sabotage his bud, which is classic evangelical Christian youth group shit.
01:21:33
Speaker
you you you if someone you know likes the girl you like you have to sabotage it with spirituality yes 100 that's what it is that's what it is you bring god into it to seal the fucking deal so you get your shot you're a little jealous of your friend it's time to like guilt trip them And then anything that goes wrong in their relationship from there forward, you get to be like, I told you I told

Christian Subreddit Critiques

01:22:03
Speaker
you. yeah A house built on sand cannot stand, dude.
01:22:07
Speaker
You weren't. You didn't put God first from the get go. um Butt cheeks. Can I give you one more before we close out? Yeah, let's it. Another nervous Christian kid.
01:22:18
Speaker
So this is in the the r slash Christian music subreddit by Purple Bridge. I need to sub to that one. I don't have that. This is another one that I i remember I relate to from young my younger years. It says, am I worrying too much?
01:22:36
Speaker
Ever since people here told me that I can't listen to all music, I've tried to listen to songs with only clean lyrics, but I have only a few songs that I allow myself to listen to because even just a single line makes me feel bad.
01:22:49
Speaker
I've given up songs just because of a verse like, "'Cause I'd rather waste my life pretending than have to forget you for one whole minute." There's a song where the singers say that he can't separate himself from what he's done, or lyrics that just said, "'You'll be sorry, baby, someday when you reach across the bed where my body used to lay, just because I feel like it's implying sleeping together before marriage.'" I even gave up a ah song because it said something like, you can't run away from these things that hold you down, even though the whole song isn't even about making someone hopeless. Am I worrying too much? Because if I'm not, then I don't have anything to listen to.
01:23:28
Speaker
I don't really enjoy the Christian bands I've been recommended, and making music is my dream, but I can't even practice the songs that I've loved on my instrument. Oh my God, he's a terrible musician.
01:23:42
Speaker
I'm worried about the fact that he said on my instrument. What is it? Is it a record? It's, it's a recorder, isn't it? He plays the oboe. He's worried about the cultural implications of chopsticks.
01:23:59
Speaker
I'm actually, is it, um who's our, oh my God. I hate when I just miss the name, like when it slips my mind. Don't worry about it. I won't have any inspiration unless I just learn the song despite the lyrics, but I'm not sure if I can do that. Should I just accept this knowing that listening to such songs would be unrighteous and a sin? I was wondering if I should ask the priest from my parish, but the commenters gave a good argument, which is 1 Corinthians 10 31.
01:24:27
Speaker
And I'm sure priests are full of great advice about what music is okay to listen to. Oh, yeah. Is this from is this from ah you you slash Peyton Parrish?
01:24:39
Speaker
the
01:24:43
Speaker
Dude, he's definitely going to hell. He sang all that pagan Viking music before he made the trip, to the conversion. No, he but he converted, so it's in his past and he's good. Dude, this kid this kid's concerns are wild. i This is one area that I never felt bad about and I'm thankful for. I never cared. I was all in on my faith. I was super Christian.
01:25:08
Speaker
I never cared about non-Christian music. i It just didn't matter to me. It was like... like This guy, what what does he play? Like music is my passion, bro. I can tell you for sure that you are, you're fucked. You're, you can't, you'll never be able to live in the, you can't do it.
01:25:28
Speaker
You won't listen to green day. Talk about being an American idiot and green day plays four chords. Green day is Christian music. yeah Musically speaking played from below the belt.
01:25:40
Speaker
It's just, oh, it's so sad. I feel bad for this guy. I can't, like, this is this is this is Christian OCD is what this is. Part of it, part of it I feel bad for, right? Because it's like, oh, clearly, like, he can't just enjoy anything or whatever. And then part of it I find annoying because there's ah there's an element of, like, look what you' amazing conviction I have that I'm willing to give all this up. it's and There's a little bit of both in there.
01:26:08
Speaker
It could be. It's hard to know. You're right. it is hard to decipher. Like, is it, is it like, are you soliciting empathy for, and for your performative actions? Is this literally just like, yeah, like that. is it just a, uh,
01:26:24
Speaker
just a performance to make people think you're holy? Or do you have OCD to the point where your Christianity is impacting your mental health to the point where you like everything you read, i mean, everything you listen to, you have to read the lyrics and make it and and in and think about what they could be meaning and then have that ruin it for you like that. That screams

Conspiracy Theories in Music

01:26:47
Speaker
kind of OCD, too. So here's some of the like worthless advice that you get on Christian subreddits.
01:26:54
Speaker
a user true podcast says, if you're not feeling it, don't listen, but don't do it out of guilt, but rather conviction. You've been given freedom in Christ, not shackles. You're of the world, but not in it, which means you can be around. There is no choice here unless you lock yourself up.
01:27:11
Speaker
Listen, eat anything that is not made directly to honor God, but you don't condone it or become part of that frame of mind unless it is direct conviction to you were obviously meant to be against God. Like you don't have to eat only at Chick-fil-A, a cause that's God's chicken, smiley face.
01:27:30
Speaker
Oh my God, dude. All this shit, dude, these Reddit pages, all it is, all it is, is just a bunch of people doing like costly signaling and fucking credibility enhancing.
01:27:44
Speaker
Like it's, it's just, that's ah enhancing their own credibility. That's all it is. If you are looking for clean bands that are more heavy like punk or ska, check out Tooth & Nail Records.
01:27:55
Speaker
Fuck off. um There's a couple out here. We got to check out Tooth & Nail Records. You need to grow the fuck up. This is 2026, bitch. We got Tooth & Nail Records in 2001. We got Tooth & Nail Records because we also 9-11.
01:28:14
Speaker
all right we got tooth andale records because we also got nine eleven all right Yeah, we earned it. You need your new thing. you have We have a new Iran war, and you get to get you need your own Christian record label to coincide with that. We got wet have that. yeah we We didn't have the internet. We didn't have the internet to find music in a way that was meaningful. We had Tooth and Nail and Solid State, and that told us everything was okay to listen to heavy music.
01:28:41
Speaker
And Toby Keith. these motherfuckers dude here's a fun one dr promethazine says oh i gave up worldly music because yeah i didn't like that most of it was glorifying sin which is just insane so dumb but it gets worse it says but i always felt like they hid witchcraft rituals and mind controlling features in it
01:29:06
Speaker
ah Dude, if it honestly, i feel like they're holding mind controlling features and it shows us how much of a low IQ piece of shit you are. Yeah. Oh, I was being mind controlled by Lady Gaga.
01:29:18
Speaker
So blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, I'm mind controlled now because she likes gay stuff. In the lyrics, beats, infrasounds, all of it. I looked into declassified files and found the mind-controlling part true. Then when I found out Hollywood is named after the druid the wood druids use to make wands to cast spells on people, I gave it up entirely, along with most shows. There's so many different genres of Christian music.
01:29:49
Speaker
This is like, this is the person. This guy is the same person. like You know when you meet somebody who you go, oh, you have no interest in participating in the actual conversation. You're just looking for ways to tell us the things you think you want us to know. Like you want to, you just want to put your personality on display and everything we say is like an on-ramp to what you want to tell us. That's it. It's not this isn't even part of the fucking conversation that's being had. He is he is Heidecker's character in that. I think you should leave sketch who puts all the jazz musicians into the game of charades and then tries to eat the gazpacho soup.
01:30:34
Speaker
It's true. A different user says, there is a lot of evil going on in the music world. Remember, Satan himself was a worshiper before he fell. Not only do many of the very famous musicians practice witchcraft, including efforts to inspire listeners, there is power in music to influence us.
01:30:53
Speaker
Music gets us dancing and singing along, often not even properly conscious of what we're repeating. I think there is a lot to be said for being intentional about what we allow into our minds and our and to influence our subconscious.
01:31:06
Speaker
From the person who probably listens to Fox News on repeat all day. I know, dude, that's what I said. like oh you like this person's like so concerned about mind control and like the subtle subconscious like you know ah ebbing away of your sanity and your positivity. And just listens to OAN constantly. Yeah.
01:31:29
Speaker
He's just like got Tim Pool on 24 hours a day. Yeah. The old bald beanie wearing douche. Oh, he's a fuck dude. I hate that guy. Yeah, he sucks.
01:31:40
Speaker
So yeah, um Christian ah subreddits are still lame. yeah

Criticism of Amateur Musicians Online

01:31:46
Speaker
But ah let me let me close you out on a little bit of a worship song that I that i found that I really enjoy. here i'mnna Not if I close you out first.
01:31:54
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Oh, you got one too? I do. i'll you You play yours and I'll close this out because I sent you that Peyton Parrish song. And um I think I was like, what is this? The anthem for incest porn? It's supposed to be like, it's supposed to be kind of, it's supposed to be Christian because everything he does is Christian, but it's uncomfortably sexual about your sister. So you go first and then I'll ah i'll i'll close out.
01:32:20
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Okay, this is a lovely young lady from somewhere probably close to me. Out of sugar, spice, and everything nice. And some girls are made out of guns, racks, deer tracks.
01:32:32
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Little bit of that beer on tap. Little bit that Sunday morning hallelujah too. Made of gunpowder and lead with whiskey and cornbread. Yeah, I don't know about you, but made gun.
01:32:48
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It's like Taylor Swiftie. She's trying to it has a like ah old, like early first album, Taylor Swift sound. Have you seen the woman who's trying to jumpstart a country career?
01:33:00
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Um, she's very much middle-aged. She looks like she doesn't know what to do with her hands and all of her videos. Oh, I think I know exactly who you're talking about. It's, uh, I, we should find, i want to actually kind of look into her a little bit. Maybe we should talk about her in the next episode. If I can find some information, I don't know much about her life, but maybe I'll scour her socials. It it very much has that, like, I'm 45, but going the Rebecca Black route of just trying to, like, pay someone to record everything I do. It's all real cheap country songs. Yeah. One of them's, ah she got that, I want to fail, like, I want to fail like Disney.
01:33:38
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I want to fail like something else that's real big. And then it's all about how she wants to, like, you know at some point maybe these things were failures but then they were real big i don't know it's not good it's really bad might not be the one i'm thinking of but she's genuinely like really serious about her music and her comments just like fucking shit on her so much and she kind of like get like just kind of trolls back like she's she's honest about it it's not like i'm doing this like goofy shit um it's
01:34:09
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it's not if It's not for a joke, and it that makes it sad, but um you do feel bad because you're like, look, I get it. like you're you're older You're getting older. you You probably always wanted something like this. You're giving it your shot, and to be denigrated like that, like and that's fair. I'm not going to tell people that they can't do that shit. This is the internet, baby. It's been around for a long enough time, and we know how this shit works.
01:34:34
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If you put something out on the internet, people get to say whatever the fuck they want about it. If we started this podcast and people bullied me and us into submission, that would have been fair. We're lucky we're here, but this is, that's, that's what happens. If you put something online, people get to say whatever they want. You made it public domain.
01:34:55
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Um, There's a boomer guy that like is a country wannabe dude. He's a he's always wearing a hat and cargo pants and he really squats when he's like 1998 kid rock.
01:35:10
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His song that keeps popping up all the time. is's He's like just a boy from misery. It'll be any misery. It's he's doing weird squatty boomer bouncy dance while he's doing it You can tell he thinks he's like so cool. All right. Country has really taken the spot that rap had like a couple years, like a couple of years ago. It was like every awful, annoying person was trying to become a rapper and it's now it's country. They're really making an effort at It's like, and you just have like a bunch of bizarre, uh,
01:35:47
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like boilerplate country slang on refrigerator magnets and you slightly rearrange them and boom, new song combination. Like the guy at ah the TPUSA halftime show.
01:35:59
Speaker
I just want catch my fish, drink a beer, drink a beer. i want to listen to this news. I don't want to hear terror. Fuck my wife's sister.
01:36:14
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Hit my kids.
01:36:18
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Go to the titty bar.
01:36:39
Speaker
What? What is that from?
01:36:54
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making amazing hand motions. Damn it.
01:37:01
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Give it to your sister. Is that a Disney song? I don't. It's maybe. He likes to do like metal, metal Disney songs. It's in Canto. But when I watched in Canto, I didn't think anything about incest. It's only when I look at his dumb face and his fucking weird studded jacket that I think gross. I think gross. Stop trying to fuck your sister. You weird fucking freak. I messaged him to try to get him on the podcast. He has not responded.
01:37:28
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He's he's too big of a deal for us. Yeah, he isn't, though. That's what's crazy. Like, he's not talking to anybody. He's not doing anything. He's just putting shit up on Instagram and feels like a big deal. He has no music career. He's not going on tour. He's not getting money. Like, I don't know where... He's definitely a silver spoon asshole.
01:37:47
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I guarantee you, on his tax returns, none of it comes from, like, actual music. Yeah, I mean, he's really a TikToker more than a musician.
01:37:58
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Yeah,

Musicians Converting to Christianity

01:37:59
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I... God, these people disgust me. Also, in case you're wondering, Jacoby, the front man from ah Papa Roach, got saved recently. He's been on the podcast circuit.
01:38:14
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i'm I'm sure he is such a powerful testimony. Yeah, it's all that it's kind of the same thing we heard our entire lives. You know, we had to get sober. he was drinking, which good. I'm not going to knock sobriety. I understand that that's really important for people destroying their lives with alcohol. It just sucks when it goes. It's like comorbid with becoming a Christian. That sucks. that Yeah, it's the worst. The worst kind of Christianity happens when you have to get sober.
01:38:42
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I feel like you kill Papa Roach like, okay, fine. But the fact that Jesus killed Korn kind of makes me upset. yeah Hey, Korn's coming back. Brian Walsh is working with his back with Korn to put out a new album, and it's supposedly the heaviest thing they've ever made. so Oh, my God. That sounds so heavy.
01:39:03
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ah So we'll see. That could be fun. We'll see. Anyway, we should wrap this up. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening.
01:39:13
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We will see you next
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time.