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Ep. 271 – Dare to Discipline: Dr. Dobson’s Glossary Criminal Slang
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This week we’re revisiting the must-have book for any parent: Dare to Discipline by Dr. James Dobson, the Kim Il Sung of Focus on the Family! There’s a riveting chapter about the perils of child drug abuse, and Jimmy D will teach you the symptoms and slang terms necessary to spot a budding barbiturate dependency in your tipsy teen-turned-prostitute. But before that, we’re once again cracking open the Apocrypha to study a scathing rebuke of both potty mouths like Sam and, well... women in general. Enjoy the show!
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Introduction to Substance Use Symptoms
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Thank you. Every drug has different symptoms. Everyone also includes alcohol and tobacco in the listed drugs. Oh my God. well just so you can Loser.
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Two extremes of energy may be represented. The individual may be sluggish, gloomy and withdrawn or loud, hysterical and jumpy. Also known as the full spectrum of the human experience. Yes. At any given time you represent one of those two things.
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Yeah.
Podcast Hosts Introduction and Mother's Day Discussion
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Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. And I'm Casey. And to all the mothers out there, I hope you all had a fantastic Mother's Day.
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Because... Mamas! All the dads out there... Tell your children, they're gonna be gay. Whether they showed it or not, we're probably a little stressed out.
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I get really anxious around... i So, the way it works... My wife's birthday is in May and Mother's Day is in May. My birthday is in June. Father's Day is in June. So it's kind of like a double whammy.
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And I kind of like that because I get really anxious about holiday stuff. Like, what do I do? Am I doing too much? I don't want to do too little. We've never really done much big stuff for Mother's Day and Father's Day. We try to make it more about like...
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getting the kids engaged. um I did good this year. The nice thing about them being close together is if there is something like bigger that you wanted to do, you just couple it together. It's like a, it's a double whammy, you know?
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So that worked out for me. But my daughter this year went was like fully engaged in Mother's Day. and um And she had all these plans that required me to do a lot.
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Like, oh, my God, I love that. Oh, wow. What a great idea. I can't wait to just be busy all weekend now. But it was super cute. I really actually loved it. So, like, um my daughter doesn't sleep in her room.
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She likes to share a room with her brother because they're best friends. So we'll let that ride out until they get old enough and can't stand being in the same room together. You know, it's fair.
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Yeah. So it's great. They're super cute, super sweet. um So that her room's like open and my wife thinks the mattress that she has in her room is like the most comfortable mattress in the house. So my daughter's like, oh, why don't we, i want to do like a hotel theme for mom.
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So it was like, mom gets to sleep in that bed, which means I'm on baby duty all night, um which whatever, that's fine. One night I don't nurse a baby. So I have absolutely no right to complain. Turns out my son, nine months old, is just way easier when she's not in the room because he wakes up normally and he just looks over at her and screams his fucking ass off until he gets fed.
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um But if she's not in the room, he wakes up a good bit. He woke up like four times, five times. But you just like we have this little vibrating hedgehog that... sings lullabies like to a piano tune. So you just smack that and throw a pass in his mouth and the kid rolls over and goes back to sleep. Like really pretty easy. um But her other thing was this thing that all kids think is a great idea, but actually every adult thinks is not fun at all, which is breakfast in bed.
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No one wants to eat breakfast in their bed. that Yeah. we Disney channel needs to quit promoting that as a thing. Right. Like it's mom's just chilling. Like, oh, I love they bring a tray in and they're just like everyone's hanging out on the bed. It's like it's not a good time. No one wants to eat like eggs and bacon in pancakes with syrup and shit in their bed. But so she wanted to do that. So I got up and I was like, if I'm getting up, you guys are getting up to watch the baby so I can actually make breakfast. Yeah.
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So it was just, it was like just this nonstop. She just loved it. And then it was like, she wanted to do the spa, the spa theme to go along with the hotel night, which was like giving my wife a full pedicure, which they did run out of time for, cause they wanted to run out and do some other stuff. So she didn't get to paint the nails, but she did the full foot bath and everything. It was super cute.
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But um i I imagine it won't be as extravagant for Father's Day. It never is.
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And we all know. We all um grew up with moms. We all everyone's like, but i mean,
Parenting and Pet Ownership Humor
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you and I. ah Sorry to our listeners who didn't grow up with moms, I guess. But. uh it's or shitty moms i don't know they run the full fucking spectrum uh but i it's just like a general like trope right that like kids pay more attention to stuff like that they want to like do more for their moms oh what should we do for mother's day like father's day was like find like a 15 action movie out that at the 15 bin at walmart and give it to my dad and say happy father day if it had arnold schwarzenegger sylvester stallone like you were good like you just picked out a random ass action movie that you know he didn't have father's day was a banger yeah pretty much i feel like um maybe kind of a modern rendition on this whole thing is what if you made it so it's kind of like a a national understanding that like mother and father's day are the two days a year where millennial parents can hit their kids
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Yeah, that could work. I also am a little more progressive than you, and I think it's ridiculous that we still have Mother's Day and Father's Day. but Just Parents' Day. Let's have two Parents' Day a year. And they could decide, the parents can decide which one gets which date.
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Sure, or why not? I mean, come on, dude, get with the times. You can include everybody so that nobody gets a special date. Yeah. he I think it's kind of messed up that, ah you know, people like me, I don't I don't have kids. So what I don't i don't get to celebrate.
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Is that what it is? That what this means? Oh, I have to celebrate other fathers. Well, that's why we also need to have, um you know, parentless couples day. And that's when all their friends who have kids get them gifts.
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I like that idea. yeah Actually, it's it should be where the the couple without kids gets their friends with kids gifts. Your job is to like watch someone's kids for the night so the parents can get away in a hotel and have sex for the first time in six months.
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How about Cat Dad Day where like ah my my pets just agree for 24 hours not to put their foot in like my bowl of cereal? Yeah, try to scoop out the marshmallows out of your Lucky Charms.
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Yeah, but i feel like with cat dad day or like cat parent, I'm a cat mom, cat dad. I feel like every day is that day because the people who feel that way about their pets never shut the fuck up about it.
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Yeah, there is a thing where it's like, I'm a cat. You gotta, you gotta chill out with the, uh, with the dog and cat talk. Yeah, slow down a bit. One mention, one mention. And I have abused that recently because everybody who asked me how I'm doing, I'm like, well, my dog broke her leg. Yeah. And then I tell a story for the 1800th time. Yeah. I'm not doing it anymore.
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See, at least I can accept that if it was just like my dog had diarrhea and I got really scared, turned out everything was fine. No one needs that story. No one's feet will really feel the same concern. Um,
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You had an actual story that had a financial cost and people can empathize with that. They resonate with that unless they hate animals. They're like, why don't you just put your dog down, dude?
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I bought I bought like ah an obligatory listen from everybody I know, basically. That was the cost of my ah my dog's leg. Yeah. No, when you when you get hit with like a high-dollar, unexpected, whatever, it's an ah you have i mean it's a general rule of being an adult that you have to share that with people.
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Yeah, I think so. Dude, my dog did have diarrhea this week, and I spent... ah The problem with cleaning up diarrhea is that like like his is like, it wasn't completely liquid, it was somewhere in between.
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Yeah. You know, it was kind of a a fecal custard. OK. And like so it's sort of like ah it's kind of like a lump on the carpet.
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But like did you get it fresh or did it start to dry a little bit? i got I got all ends of the spectrum this time around. i found some I found some right away. Some of it I didn't see until it was, you know, it had time to congeal. But it's sort of like if you break the surface tension of the diarrhea, like, you know, it's like... It bubbles over like a lava cake.
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Yeah, it's like a French dessert. Yeah. now So I found if you use a paint scraper or like a putty knife, you can just kind Like you're not trying to yout you don't want to break the yoke, you know? yeah Was it on the carpet?
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Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. It would be so much easier if it was just on the like pergo. Yeah. have that Like he doesn't want to poop on on on laminate flooring, I guess. Which is so dumb.
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Their asses don't touch. They act like their asses touch the surface they're shitting on and they don't. Have seen this phenomena with certain dogs where they like pooping on vertical surfaces?
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Yeah, I've seen ah like Instagram reels and shit about it. I wish I could train them do like that. They put their legs up like and go against a wall or something like that. Yeah, like just like, ah you know, Dairy Queen soft serve right onto the side of a building or whatever.
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Yeah, it's nice. It's respectful. My my small dog, I got a, you know, an 80 pound idiot and then, well, whatever, 20 pound idiot, but both my dogs are really dumb.
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And my small dog, when we when I take my dogs for a walk, she won't, Like most dogs let you know, like they go off to the side, they stop, they go, they do their business um by a little dog.
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She shits while walking. um So like I'll sometimes notice that she's kind dragging behind and it's like, just because she's kind of like, like doing the arch, but while her back legs are still moving and I turn around, there's just, you know, ah Like there's like three feet in between turds. It's just like bop, bop, bop, bop. And she'll do the same thing while peeing too. It's so dumb. That should be a Fortnite dance. Yeah. Probably go over well with the kids. It would.
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You could just shit while walking, teabag while walking. Do people still teabag in video games? I don't know. I hope so. I know. Tradition and all. You got to respect your heritage. Honor your forefathers. If the parents are training their children upright, their children are teabagging the corpses of fallen four-nighters.
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And calling
Reddit Post Analysis on Inappropriate Attention
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people the N-word. Yeah. Well, don't don't teach your kids that. We got a good few little things we want to get into tonight. um So variety show. Yeah, it's a it's a cornucopia.
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ah I think that's right. Cornucopia. It's eclectic. um But I found a really great post on Reddit in the in the true Christian podcast.
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uh sub and uh it's a doozy a little bit long couple of edits uh because this is the kind of thing you want to edit probably more than twice but you know he landed they got a couple in it yeah um so the headline is uh a teenager at my church has a crush on me and i'm struggling with my own thoughts how do i handle this biblically oh no What is, okay, is this a male author? If you want to handle it biblically, you buy her from her father and you make her have sex with you.
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This is a male author. Yeah. yeah Oh, no. All right, I'm buckled in. You have my attention. i get I actually was like, today I thought I should have screenshotted this because these are the kinds of posts that disappear sometimes.
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ah He says, I'm 26 and serving at a very small church where a few teens and the rest are older adults that really aren't there really aren't any women my age there. There's one girl. That's a good thing to clarify, because that's important for what we're about to hear. Right. He needs you to know that he's desperate and there's no one else available. So he doesn't really have a choice before you pass judgment. OK, there's no other girls my age.
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Yeah. It's just toddlers. hi Oh God. Have you ever been horny and lonely? That probably would have been a better, you would have instantly had people on your side and maybe like it would have softened the blow of telling us that she's 16 years old.
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ah There's one girl, 16, on the worship team who keeps looking at me a lot during services. It's not random. There have been multiple times where she looks at me. I look back. We kind of lock eyes for a moment and then both look away.
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She also tends to sit somewhere in my line of sight. It's been happening consistently enough that I feel like it's intentional and I'm starting to think she might have a crush on me. That already makes me uncomfortable, but what's harder for me to admit and is my own reaction. I've been feeling really lonely. Oh, there it is.
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My life is basically just church and home every week, and I've never properly dated or had a real relationship. My family was very overprotective growing up, so I never really developed that part of my life.
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Or you stunted that part of your life, and that's why you're having eyes for a 16-year-old. Yeah. It seems like a lot of factors that aren't his fault. Is that what we're supposed to glean? I mean, I think that's what we can glean from almost every Reddit post that we share.
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Yeah. i think It's not my fault that I hit her, but she made me really angry, so you must understand. Because of that, I catch myself actually liking the attention.
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I even find myself thinking about her after I get home. Uh, I, he omitted in the shower, but that's probably for the best. Um, just keep on digging, buddy. And it honestly disturbs me even thinking if this might work, if it were to happen, I know clearly this would be wrong and I don't want anything inappropriate at all.
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But the fact that part of me is drawn to the attention makes me feel ashamed. Since the church is so small, I can't really avoid her completely or just step away from serving. I know the Bible says God provides a way out of temptation, but I don't know what that looks like in a situation like this. How do I actually escape this in a practical sense?
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Should I actively avoid eye contact? Yes. And distance myself? Absolutely. Should I talk to my pastor or another trusted adult, even though I feel like they might not understand? Yes. I can assure you there's an 80% chance your pastor understands.
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yeah
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that's too good i should just comment with that he's he goes to talk to his like 67 year old pastor and he's like i've been feeling the same way why does she keep staring at us
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yeah He goes, ah and how do I even pray about this? Honestly, without just feeling guilt and shame. I really want to important thing. You know, how do you pray? Don't be ashamed.
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Yeah, right. I really want to handle this in a way that honors God and protects everyone involved. Protects. Now you recognize you're a danger to society. That's nice.
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I'd really appreciate honest biblical advice. Edit one. Sorry, I should clarify that I meant by serving. I help in the sound booth. So it's more of a technical slash volunteer role. I'm not in any position of authority over the youth, and I have and gone to Bible school, though I'm considering it for my future. We need that. You have to point that out so people know that you take your faith seriously.
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Yeah. Being 10 years older than a 16-year-old girl doesn't put you in any sort of authority over them either in that environment. Right. Yeah. I have shared my testimony before and once gave a short message about fasting.
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Maybe consider fasting from the gaze of teenagers. If you're so good at knowing about fasting and and can teach your church about it. um I'm hitting up hebophilia for Lent.
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But I wouldn't consider myself in any kind of leadership role. I just wanted to make that clear so the situation isn't misunderstood. Edit two. Thank you for your messages. I have decided to tell the pastor if this goes on any further. It only goes on further if you carry it on, you sick fuck.
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and Yeah. Well, he says, until then, I ignore her when she looks. How do you know she looks? No, you just ignore her. If you're saying I ignore her when she looks, it means he's still noticing. He's still looking.
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Dude, this is, oh man, this is like where you you want to just like like grab these people and just be like, hey, you need to go to, a you need to talk to a therapist, not a pastor or a subreddit audience. Like you need to go talk to a therapist, not connected to your church that can be like, hey man, this is a real problem. You shouldn't be thinking that way. here are some resources for you to fix this.
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Yeah. like And then send them a link to a dating app. Yeah, there's some... I mean, this, like... Well, there's just no so there's just no women my age around. Like, give me a break.
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Yeah. So far, the advice is pretty... it's It's fairly within the realm of reason from within Christian circles. The most advice I can give you is to flee from temptation. He's asking how to flee.
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um There's no... me okay. There's no one at fault in this situation. Yes, there is. There's a guy who keeps staring and encouraging this behavior from a teenager. Yeah. Uh, but he's like, she's a teenager. They have crushes from what you said. hasn't made any efforts to communicate you, communicate with you.
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ah whatever. If your goal is a wife, I highly recommend you branch out to a larger church community, whatever, just kind of run of the mill advice. Can you imagine like, okay, think about like the language used here and the subject matter. And and like, I think there's a there's an issue in that this like, absurd purity culture stuff. It's sort of like infantilizes these people.
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Yeah, it does. And this guy's 26 years old and he's talking about, you know, girls having crushes and like making eye contact across the church and stuff like he's a teenager, you know, and it's like, come on, man. Like you need to go talk to some women.
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Right. Get out of here. Go have a conversation. Quit this like nonsense, like. you know seventh grade like passing notes stuff. You're too old. You're old. Right. Yeah, we're looking at each other. It makes me feel something. and i get Yeah, you didn't have that experience as a kid. i don't Who knows if they were homeschooled? This is kind of like I didn't have a lot of interaction with other people's behavior, but...
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I went with the youth troop, the Dairy Queen, and on the way there, we played Truth or Dare, and somebody dared me to say who I liked, like more than friends. And I said, I'll give you a hint. She's in 10th grade.
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It's this one guy goes, ah he's he's the brashest of the bunch. And ah i I appreciate his candor. He says, thank you for being honest. But as a 26 year old man, you should not be attracted to a 16 year old girl.
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I'm 24. And even meeting 18 year olds makes me feel ancient because of the difference in maturity. She's a child. There shouldn't be any attracted, blah, blah, blah. You would have nothing in common with this girl. I think you need to seek therapy and really look inward. You need to think about being ah father. Imagine how disturbed you'd be if a 26-year-old man was pining on your high school-age daughter.
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He goes on to basically just say that same shit, like, go get your shit figured out, bro. Dude, i heard ah I heard a story today from ah from one of my like coworkers that was telling me that there's a big like scandal,
Scandals and Abuse Allegations in Religious Contexts
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controversy thing at his kid's school because a parent saw another, like a father of one of the kids like waiting for him at the bus stop or whatever.
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I forget where the situation was, but but basically while they were like waiting, somebody caught this father of one of the kids taking pictures of one of the little girls in his class. Oh my God. I'm like, ah what are you, what even happens there? I'm not, I'm all for, you know,
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privacy rights but if you get caught doing that it should just be an open warrant and all of your personal electronics Yeah, I think so. That's probable cause to me for it to be like, if you took a picture of a child in that kind of a context, not because they're like, not because you're chaperoning an event and you're whatever. Obviously, we know the difference between like contexts.
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But it's something like that. It's like, no, just so just seize everything this man owns and and just do a quick check to make sure that like. We don't get some weird shit happen in the background. And then head it off. Get this guy ah some immediate immediate invasive therapy.
00:22:35
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Without a doubt, that guy has sick stuff on his computer. Yeah. Definitely. Well, because we've talked about that so many times. Who in the world would ever do that? Like that pastor we talked about earlier.
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ah months ago and in trader joe's who was taking pictures up a woman's skirt like once you get to a point where you're bringing that to society where you're bringing your like that kind of weird shit out into the world like you've you've done something else like you don't you no one starts there that's where things go before they get even worse Dude, I haven't made it all the way through it yet, but I started listening to, I don't know if I, I don't think I really like this guy all that much, but um there's this guy, Sean Ryan. Have you heard of him? ah That sounds super familiar.
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he has like one of the biggest podcasts right now. He's like huge, but he's like an ex military guy of some sort. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He has kind of like breakdown videos on like the quote unquote Trump assassination, at alleged Trump assassination attempts. No, no, no. That I know who you're talking about. That's a different guy. Okay.
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This guy's kind of soft spoken. He's like, it's like surprising that he's been so popular as a podcast host. Cause he's not like a big personality or anything, but, um, he One thing he's done that's been kind of great is he's sort of like on the warpath against this Christian camp in Missouri that is tied to, i mean, hundreds of abuse cases.
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And it's all been like swept under the rug and pushed it, you know, statute of limitations and this and that and the other But like he had this lady on who her brother was molested at this camp.
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And then he ended up offing himself. And so she like she's like all in guns blazing, like going after these people.
00:24:39
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And it's some real. real sick stuff and these are like this is like a high level this is like if jerry falwell was like running at a kids camp and and like molesting children on missions trips and stuff like that like there's trafficking tied into it like international stuff because this church had like ministries you know quote unquote in like haiti and over they did a bunch of stuff in china like He was like bringing it was all like young boys, at least that he was involved with. And like he was taking young boys on these missions trips and stuff and then like photographing them nude, like getting massages and like where was this in China? It's a so the the the whole thing revolves around a Christian camp in Missouri, Missouri. OK. Let me see. I got to find the name of it. I'll i'll tell you what the name of it is That's crazy. Dude, that that's a weird thing about, you know, these these churches opening like their ministries across the globe.
00:25:41
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Right. Like they do often fly under the radar. um It's crazy that nefarious shit that like churches can get away with. For a long time. I mean, we see it. I mean, it always comes up. Like, I mean, even if it's not like, I mean, we've done stories here where it's like people are in trouble because of something that happened. Someone 20 years from so a thing from 20 years ago, someone finally spoke out and it's like, yeah, that's, those are the people talking, but they're just, you're not going to convince me that that was a one and done thing. It didn't just happen 20 years. Like, It's never the case. It's never the case that you did it that one time. It never is. This is long, long, there's probably, there could be like thousands of victims in this thing as long as it went on because it started in like the fifty s Is it still around? Yeah. it so Okay, so it's Camp Canacuck.
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Okay. Canacuck. Canacuck, yeah. Yes, you can. Yes, you can, apparently. Yeah. in uh it's like branson area basically in missouri so so this article says canna kuk disputes podcasters claims demands retraction after epstein files episode uh canna kuk ministries the branson area christian youth camp network is pushing back publicly against claims repeated by a popular podcaster saying allegations aired to a national audience were false speculative and significant exaggerations In a demand letter dated January 21st, attorneys for Kennecuck told host Sean Ryan to remove part of a podcast episode and issue a public apology within 10 days or face potential legal action.
00:27:18
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The letter sent by Springfield-based attorney Brian O. Wade of Hush Blackwell LLP focuses on a comment Ryan made during an interview with U.S. Rep. Ro Khanna that was released January 15th. So I think this set it off. So they sent him like a cease and desist or something after he mentioned their their camp on this episode. So he had on like this lady that's like leading the charge against him and she just like lays it out.
00:27:46
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That's crazy. So here's their response, or at least give you a little part of it here. It says, our response to abuse and child safety, and it has a picture of a blob on the lake above it.
00:27:59
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Very strange. For over a century, Kanakuk has existed to draw people closer to God while building lifetime friendships and growing in character and confidence. Our mission of developing next generation Christian leaders is one we pursue passionately, as we believe wholeheartedly that we live in a world where broken by sin and separated from God.
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We hold sacred the confidence and trust that parents place in us when sending their children to Kanakuk. For many, their their happiest memories have been made here, and they cherish them for life. But for some, a dark chapter in Kanakuk history destroyed that sacred trust and continues to cause hurt and pain to this day.
00:28:42
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We wish that chapter in our history didn't exist, and we also wish we hadn't added to the pain and hurt written within. We know we did, and for that, we are sorry.
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We're sorry. When Pete Newman confessed to crimes against children in 2009, it was a first step towards healing for many survivors and their families. We've been privileged to walk alongside many survivors over the years, supporting them along the way and learning intimately the devastation that the sin of abuse causes.
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We've shed tears with them, prayed with them, and prayed, as we continue to do, for the great Lord to show himself a great comforter and healer to each and every one. That's wild. we've We've prayed with these victims and shed tears. of that like We've also sent them threatening legal notices. Yeah, yeah, right. and But that's it they victims aren't returning to those places to be prayed with by those people. like They're not.
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then That's a lie. They're lying. But healing journeys are not all the same, and each survivor of abuse walks a different path. We understand this better today, but confess that this is something we did not fully appreciate for many years.
00:29:49
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We failed to appreciate that our words and actions were not always sufficient, and not nearly enough to mend the wounds and scars they bore. If you are a survivor of abuse and this describes you, we're sorry.
00:30:02
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but i saw I love this language. It's like so flippant. um is the Is the next thing to ah for you for them to please reach out and then they give the number to their legal team?
00:30:14
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Yes, send us all your information what you're afraid of. Please reach out to us so we can make this right. We know that sorry is pitifully insufficient and that we've inflicted pain upon pain in our ignorance. But the truth remains that we are forever sorry and we will never stop being sorry and are praying for your healing from the one who is able to do far exceedingly beyond anything we could ever ask or imagine.
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Following Pete Newman's confession, we dedicated ourselves to dramatically improving our child safety efforts. And that okay, we're just, that's enough of this. We're not going to recall it, but- that They had a strict, like, don't ask, don't tell policy.
00:30:51
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And in the don't ask was an actual command. Don't ask. This was... Okay, you think back on, like... Okay, go back like six years where, you know, like right, you know, around the time Epstein died where like there was public awareness of Epstein. But like nobody, most people did not have like an intimate knowledge of what he actually did. Right. And when people would talk about it, they would be like, come man And it was always like this thing where it was like, dude, imagine how many people would have to keep that a secret if this was all some big conspiracy.
00:31:31
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Which is always the go-to with government conspiracies. And it was. It was absolutely true. And in this case, this is the same thing. Tons of people kept this secret and kept this going and protected all sorts. There's tons of abusers that were present in this community. And the way that you make that work, right? The way you make... Oh, imagine all the people that would keep it secret. Yeah, because you have to make sure that they all have something to lose. And, dude, I've been watching... ah
Ethics of Predator Sting Operations
00:32:00
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There's a YouTuber named Jideon that he's pretty... He's been famous for a long time, I think. He used to do, like, prank stuff, and then he kind of had, like, a religious...
00:32:12
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awakening or whatever and then uh now he does like predator sting videos but they have a distinctly like less uh icky feel to them than some of you know some of these are getting like very wild like assaulting people and stuff like it's not the way to do and and a lot of these guys are not actually like taking any sort of legal action against the people they're catching it's just youtube views right which is crazy predatory to like oh I'm gonna I'm gonna use this situation to bolster my YouTube fame but not go through any proper channels to make sure that like these people are actually held accountable oh one of those guys just like two weeks ago is he got into big trouble his name's uh Vitaly
00:33:00
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Old school YouTuber and just a piece of garbage. He just got out of prison in like Thailand for just being the worst person in the country, basically, like annoying people to the point where they imprisoned him in like a Taiwanese like detention center, which is not.
00:33:18
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It's not an American detention center, and it's definitely not a Norwegian detention center. But anyways, that he got he's in like hot water because they were doing these predator stings, and he accused somebody that wasn't... He like mixed up accounts and like accused this guy of chatting up like a 16-year-old, and it wasn't him. And like they put his public information out there. They called his family on the video, like...
00:33:45
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Oh, my God. It's like and and you look back at these guys as videos of like they're not doing anything to try to take legal action against any of these people. It's just for like clout. Right. But this Gideon guy is actually like doing it the right way and like finding these guys and actually like setting them up to where, you know, law enforcement can step in.
00:34:06
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But, you know, he was talking to this guy. he he caught this guy the other day I was watching, and he was like a youth, some sort of a youth leader in like a local LDS church.
00:34:18
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Okay. This guy's a lunatic. like And he really tried to hide behind like his mental health like as he was you know figuring out, if as the noose was tightening. Right.
00:34:31
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i have I have bipolar, schizophrenia, ADHD, you know, BPD, blah, blah, blah, blah. The panic when that news tightens in those videos, though, is always not Yeah. I mean, he starts like you can you can tell like he's clearly with it enough to think about how he's saying things and what information he's like volunteering so as to like try not to incriminate himself. But he's too dumb not to incriminate him because that's how it always goes. They make it way worse.
00:35:03
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Yeah. And then he starts doing the like I'm going crazy routine. and he's like slapping the ground and hitting himself in the head. And he's like, I'm in a very bad mental state right now. And just, but you know, like hearing him talk about it, like he's talking about these people online that he talks to that send him, you know, stuff that he doesn't want to see. And this, this is a really long rendered tangent, but basically like these people find Like-minded people.
00:35:30
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Like, that is one thing that is prevalent in like, all these cases is that they find people who are prone to the same sorts of things, and then the probing starts, and they start testing the waters to see if you're, are you down or are you not?
00:35:45
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Like, the same thing goes on in these all these, like, big organizations that have, like, abusive, you know, tendencies and stuff. It's like, they find people who are going to play ball and do the same sorts of things that they are.
00:35:57
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Yeah. I don't know how they vet each other, but like they clearly do. It's huge. It's just it's a weird like human social phenomenon where that happens. So like because even on benign things like I remember ah someone ah that we knew when we were going like when we went to when my wife and I went to Liberty, um it was like.
00:36:21
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Someone we knew was like, I'm going to decide to go to Liberty too, because she was like, I just want to get away from all these types of people that I've surrounded myself with. And she comes to Liberty and she immediately surrounded herself with the exact same kinds of people again. Like, and this is, this was just like, you know, but this is benign shit. This is the, you know, smoking weed, maybe dabbling with something else. Who knows? Probably not even really, um, drinking, partying, all that kind of stuff. The stuff that Christian kids feel bad about it, like 18, 19, 20 years old so like,
00:36:58
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She goes and then it just boom immediately back into the same thing, which she's fine. Like where someone we know where adults you grow out of it. Most people like, but like that, that's, it's like a magnet.
00:37:12
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Like you don't just like, that's just what happens to people. Like yeah if you remove yourself from a situation, unless you do some sort of work or grow up or change in some way, you you're it's like, it's like,
00:37:25
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that like it's almost like like with the the same thing of like like women who end up in an abusive relationship, like are incredibly likely to end up in another abusive relationship afterwards because you're like, for whatever reason you're picking, people are picking up on things. You're giving off signals.
00:37:45
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It's super subconscious. There's a lot of probably weird psychology that goes into it, but it just happens. And it's sad in situations like that. But it's what people do.
00:37:59
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um And it's not without work and effort and care and thought that you can like go in, like remove yourself from a situation and not find yourself back into a similar situation shortly afterwards. Mm hmm.
00:38:14
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Yeah. It's interesting. if you're If you're interested at all in that stuff, check out that guy, Gideon, because he has a fascinating way like... It's Gideon? It's not Gideon?
00:38:25
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No, it's Gideon. Interesting. I forget exactly how it's spelled. It's spelled a little odd, but you can find it. Yeah. But to this guy, dude, he... has like a very disarming way about him. He's like kind of a, he's like not a big muscular guy, but he's like a big black dude, but just was like very disarming in how he talks. And like he, dude, he just talks the pants off these dudes. And pretty soon, like he's talked to them into like giving them, giving him their phone and their passcode.
00:38:57
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And he's like, he's like, is it all right if I put your phone in airplane mode right now? And I think that's so they can't like so they couldn't delete stuff, you know, in a panic or oh do I have seen this guy. As soon as you said, big black guy, I I just watched a video.
00:39:11
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I just saw video from him. It was like just, ah you know, on Instagram or whatever. That was dude he's a genius at that. i mean I mean, it was like a guy. it It might have been the one you're talking about. It was a guy. It was a pastor who totally freaked out.
00:39:24
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And and the but did the cops come and he gave the cops his phone and shit? Yeah. Yeah. I saw that, dude. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's great. Yeah, it's a it's really incredible. Like he's unbelievably good at like talking. I watched a couple of his videos and he's like by the end, he's got their phone. They've shown him like what kind of stuff they're looking at, you know, and he he'll he'll be like now, look, I understand, you know, this is something you you're caught up in. Like, do you want to be rid of this stuff? Do you want to have it removed? Like.
00:39:57
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yeah, i I do. I want to be rid of it. and he's like, okay, but it's got to be professionally removed. Like you can't just delete it. Now, is that the kind of help that you want? Cause we can have it removed. And they're like, yeah, I'd like to, I'd like to get it removed and stuff. And then pretty soon like a cop's walking up and they're like, Oh, Oh, Oh, what, what, what? Yeah. Cause I, I, in the video, he's like going, he has a dude's phone. He's showing the cop and the cops like has a look on his face. Like, like he's keeping it cool, but he's, it's one of those like,
00:40:28
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Whoa. Okay. Like that's not what I expected to walk into when I got a call about some shit, you know, that's not what you expect to just roll up on. yeah Yeah. On a nine to five, whatever normal day as a cop. And then, but what I, what kind of threw me was when the guy was going through his phone,
00:40:47
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jitty on guy was like yeah like he's got the he's going through it casually i'm like dude you're seeing this shit that's crazy that you're so chill about it like yeah dude yeah yeah i mean it's that it's that's nuts i don't know man it's crazy oh chris hansen busted a uh israeli like bodyguard bodyguards what are the odds of that ah what are the odds of that I mean, Chris Hansen, he still goes hard.
00:41:19
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He does. And if you go hard, he'll know. yeah Yeah. And he'll ask you about it and make you look directly in the camera and talk about it. Are you hard right now?
00:41:30
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You're really hard right now, aren't you? Well, okay. um That's enough of looking down your nose at other people. I think I've got a little message that is specifically for you. And then we're going address all of the the women listening to this. Oh.
00:41:48
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So was reading. love when we address women because it's usually from someone who has really great opinions on how they should conduct themselves. Yes. Yeah. and and And hey, look, this is going to be a tough listen, but me to you, you need this. Okay. okay So both you and the women. You first.
00:42:09
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So this is from the, apo I was reading, I was doing my daily devotional in the Apocrypha today. Okay. Back in the Apocrypha. It's been a minute since we've looked at heretical texts together.
00:42:20
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Yeah, well, you know, I was just thumbing through one of my favorite apocrypha books, Ecclesiasticus. could You could have tried a little harder with a name. We already have Ecclesiastes. Come on.
00:42:33
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What's funny is like I was trying to read like the forward to this book, like to Ecclesiasticus. And ah is it just so confusing? Is it just like Ecclesiastes, but just more of a cock bitch?
00:42:46
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I don't know. It's like it's like ah from it's the it's the accumulated writings of a guy named Jesus by his son, who is also named Jesus, but neither which are the Jesus of Nazareth that we're all familiar with. OK, it's helpful. It's a disaster.
00:43:04
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So, um okay, here we go. So this is Ecclesiasticus chapter 23 and starting in verse eight, if you're following along at home. My heart is open.
00:43:16
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The sinner shall be left in his foolishness. Both
Interpretation of Ecclesiasticus and Religious Texts
00:43:20
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the evil speaker and the proud shall fall thereby. Accustom not thy mouth to swearing, neither use thyself to the naming of the Holy One.
00:43:30
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I see. I see where you're... I see the shade right now. I do. I think you're getting defensive, and I'm challenging you. Okay. I respect that, my brother in Christ. You just accept...
00:43:43
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Hey, look, if you're feeling a little tense right now, it could be defensive. It could be, you know, it's just the text, the the inspired words pulling on your heartstrings a little. Okay. All right. I'll step back.
00:43:57
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For as a servant that is continually beaten shall not be without a blue mark. Ha!
00:44:09
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This is just beautiful prose. for For as a servant that is continually bleating beaten shall not be without a blue mark. So he that sweareth and nameth God continually shall not be faultless.
00:44:24
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A powerful analogy. It is. um I'm struggling with it a little bit. It's making using the Lord's name in vain or as a swear.
00:44:37
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I'm going to, it's like i'll it's like I'll be getting beaten. I'll be being beaten. Is that it? As a man. I'll be chastised. As you are beaten, just like a a slave who is beaten cannot hide his bruises, so a man who sweareth, who uses potty words, shall not hide his dirty countenance.
00:44:57
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i don't I feel like I've been pretty good. I feel like I've come out pretty unscathed. But let's see. maybe i Maybe I'm not aware and this will enlighten me into ways that Christ has been tugging at my soul for the past 20 years. I think 20 years is probably when 20 years ago at least is when I realized that ah those kinds of words don't matter. But...
00:45:25
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ah A man that uses much swearing shall be filled with iniquity, and the plague shall never depart from his house. If he shall offend, his sin shall be upon him. What's the new virus that's out? The Hunter virus? is a Yeah, the Hunter virus. I'm going to get that. That's what's going happen. That's the plague that's coming to me.
00:45:44
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If he shall offend, his sin shall be upon him. And if he acknowledge not his sin, he maketh a double offense. And if he swear in vain, he shall not be innocent, and his house shall be full of calamities. And you know what? I think your house is full of calamities sometimes. that I can't disagree with that. I feel like every three months i'm I bestowed a terrible gift.
00:46:11
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I guarantee you somewhere within your line of sight, there's a rat like hauling off a double A battery or something. yeah Dude, I am paranoid. i well we doing it I keep like scanning my environment while we're talking.
00:46:25
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There is a word that is clothed about with death. God grant that it not be found in the heritage of Jacob. For all such things shall be far from the godly and they shall not wallow in their sins.
00:46:37
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Use not that amount. wallow in mine. I'm just fine with them. it's It's a little wallowy. Use not thy mouth to interpret swearing. Intemperate to intemperate swear swearing. I don't even know what intemperate means. it I had to look up a couple of words while I was reading this today.
00:46:57
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For therein is the word of sin. Remember thy father and thy mother when thou sittest among great men. Be not forgetful before them, and so... thou by thou by thy custom become a fool and wish that thou hadst not been born and curse thy day of the the day thy they day of thy you can get it is this the is this a book of mormon i believe and curse they day of thy nativity that's a stupid work that's a stupid sentence i
00:47:29
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What does it say about parents? I'm disrespecting my parents. What am I doing to my parents right now? You gotta remember them and not break, you know, be a man of bad custom.
00:47:40
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The assumption that your parents care, but I guess that's on them. that yeah Those hot coals will be heaped upon their heads in the afterlife. Remember thine parents and how that's, that's did share the parable of the Florida man hauled into the deep by dolphins to build a city therein.
00:48:00
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I mean, to some degree, it to this is a disappointment to the parent, to parents, to my parents, my in-laws, whatever. It's not their favorite thing. but But my dad's come around. He doesn't listen regularly, but he likes to.
00:48:18
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he He does like to occasionally call me to talk about an episode he listened to. And he's never once brought up my foul language. Wow. Last time we had a conversation about it, it was um he listened to us talking about how the Israeli government is a terrorist organization. Bibi Netanyahu is Satan himself.
00:48:41
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And if he was like, you know, I think I i think i think I agree with a lot of what you guys are talking about. And I said, welcome aboard, father. Welcome aboard.
00:48:54
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Here's another good word for you. The man that is accustomed to opprobrious words will never be reformed all the days of his life. I'm incapable of reform. What does improbrious mean?
00:49:09
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I think it's like offensive, vile, bad language. Improbrious or improbrious? O-p-p-r-o-b-r-i-o-u-s.
00:49:21
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r i o u s That's so good. I'm going to start reading the word, but just so I can expand my vocabulary. Approbious is an adjective describing language, behavior, or actions that are severely critical, scornful, or disgraceful. That describes me.
00:49:38
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yeah It indicates intense disapproval or abusive condemnation, often aimed at shaming someone. The term also refers to actions that are shameful or infamous. And I think that's great because I appreciate ah taste. I like to call it tasteful blasphemy.
00:49:57
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Here's we get into a broader ah rebuke. Okay. I felt like that was pretty broad. It didn't really address the specifics. I felt like it was mostly about you, honestly. It didn't it didn't tell me what words are off limits or exactly what the problem was. It's very ah culturally locked in. It's ingrained entirely in what society dictates as appropriate or inappropriate. So... I don't know. I'm still on the fence. I think I still have a chance, but we'll see how this broader, this, ah you know, what the what you said, painting with a broad brush, how that ah how that covers my multitude of sins.
00:50:35
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Two sorts of men multiply sin, and the third will bring wrath. Okay, I hope I bring wrath. A hot mind is as a burning fire. It will never be quenched till it be consumed. Which one is that?
00:50:48
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Which type of man are we on? I feel like he's not really specifying, if I remember correctly. I what? it's up to the It's up to you to guess. That's stupid. As as is most scripture, I guess. yeah Yeah, okay, fair. A fornicator in the body of his flesh will never cease till he hath kindled a fire.
00:51:06
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All bread is sweet to a whoremonger. yeah He will not leave off till he die. Well, I'm not a... I am not, nor have I ever been a fornicator.
00:51:19
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I have kept all my nuptials to confines of marriage. Well, that's good, because that's the next section. "'A man that breaketh wedlock, saying thus in his heart, "'Who seeth me? I am compassed about with darkness. "'The walls cover me, and nobody seeth me. "'What need I to fear? "'The Most High will not remember my sins.'" Such a man only feareth the eyes of men and knoweth not the eyes of the Lord are 10,000 times brighter than the sun, beholding all the ways of men and considering the most secret parts.
00:51:52
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Hmm. He knew all things ere they were created. So also after they were perfected, he looketh looked upon them all. This man shall be punished in the streets of the city and where he suspecteth not, he shall be taken.
00:52:08
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I feel like I'm good there, honestly. I don't think I have anything to worry about in the streets. Yeah. Well, I don't think I'm a whoremonger. At least I got that going for me. Yeah, well I think we're both clear there. What's next?
00:52:21
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Thus shall it go also with the wife that leaveth her husband, and bringeth in an heir by another. e For first, she hath disobeyed the law of the Most High, and secondly, she hath trespassed against her own husband.
00:52:38
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And thirdly, she hath played the whore in adultery and brought children by another man. i love how it's all her fault. Yeah, is. Just keeping it real biblical right there. I love that.
00:52:51
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There's a rebuke for everybody here. But yeah, mostly women. I'm good there. I'm still good there. She shall be brought out into the congregation and inquisition shall be made of her children. Oh, I know churches that have done that to women.
00:53:05
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Here's what here's what this seems like some Dark Ages stuff. Her children shall not take root and her branches shall bring forth no fruit. It's like, what does that mean? Abortion. and I like put them in the like the Iron Maiden or something like that. Yeah. The the ones that don't take root were publicly aborted in church at the age of six.
00:53:29
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ah she shall leave her memory to be cursed and her reproach shall not be blotted out. And they that remain shall know that there is nothing better than the fear of the Lord and that there is nothing sweeter than to take heed unto the commandments of the Lord. It is great glory to follow the Lord and to be received of him is long life. Oh, here's what's throwing me about like, okay, so we know the Bible is fraught with problematic statements, but,
00:53:56
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This book and other extra biblical texts really dwell hard on certain things for prolonged period of time. And isn't it cool that there are just churches across the globe?
00:54:09
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Because the Catholic Church includes the Apocrypha, right? There are churches across the globe where any seven-year-old could pick this book up out the back of a pew and learn this great information.
00:54:21
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Yeah. Like if, if you did, if this wasn't part of the, apartment if you, if, if somebody just wrote this and then posted it online, everybody would want to, everybody would want to kill that person.
00:54:35
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They might get banned from YouTube. They like, there are so many problems with this in, in the, the extremeness of the language and the irony, right? The irony of calling out swearing when your entire book is hate speech is hilarious to me.
00:54:52
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Yeah. Yeah. Don't let her kids take root quick, you know, drown them quick with hate. I forgot that the ladies were included on that one, but this is the main message that I had for the, uh, the women out there.
00:55:06
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Okay. It's similar, but and and you know, women pretty well, I'd say, right? Yes. I've talked to one of them for sure. Yeah. it wasn't related to me. Yep.
00:55:18
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ah So now we're skipping a forward to chapter 42. Wait, did she work for you? In a way. We work together. Okay. ah So chapter 42, and we're starting at verse 8. "'Be not ashamed to inform the unwise and foolish, and the extreme aged that contendeth with those that are young.
00:55:41
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Thus shalt thou be truly learned and approved of all living men.'" The father wake it. This is I I don't know what all this means. It sounds bad.
00:55:51
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OK, it sounds bad, but, you know, it's directed towards women. The father, you know, women. That's right. Yep. If I know one thing, it's it's women.
00:56:02
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The father waketh for the daughter when no man knoweth, and the care for her taketh away sleep when she is young, lest she pass away the flower of her age, and being married, lest she should be hated.
00:56:16
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What? That's wildly uncomfortable. What does that mean? It means exactly what we're assuming it means, which is the younger the better. Yeah, and keep it in the family, I guess. Yeah, the daughter. Really it sounds like we're talking about molesting your daughter. you i think you mean, as the royal family would say, keeping the bloodline pure.
00:56:39
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Right, right. So that she doesn't pass away the flower of her age, you know, and being married, lest she be hated. i have i have no no idea what that means.
00:56:50
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In her virginity, lest she should be defiled and gotten with child in her father's house and having a husband, lest she should misbehave herself. And when she is married, lest she should be barren.
00:57:04
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I don't actually get this at all. Is it is this just someone that gets passed around until they're married off? I don't know. i don't know. What does it mean? It sounds awful.
00:57:17
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Keep a sure watch over a shameless daughter, lest she make thee a laughingstock to thine enemies, and a byword in the city, and a reproach among the people, and make thee ashamed before the multitude.
00:57:31
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Behold not every body's beauty, and sit not in the midst of women. For from garments cometh a moth, but from women wickedness." why is that How did this make the cut? I don't know. I mean, I guess it didn't, but it it made it into the ah the you know the director's cut. It made it enough. and Why did it make the director's cut? This is the Snyder cut of the King James Bible. This is...
00:57:57
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ah what The extended scene ah like was in Lord of the Rings, at the end of the movie, like there's like that extended scene where they're all like it's all in white linen and shit. a like Giggling in the dappled sun. Yeah.
00:58:14
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it's like It's like that, but were like it's that unnecessary. Like 30 minutes of like Frodo and Sam just going... All like giddy and shit. yeah I was like, even when I was a kid, my first thought was like... ah not I swear to God, I'm not kidding when I'm like...
00:58:37
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is are they trying to tell me that Frodo and Sam are gay? And I wasn't even being like, as a kid growing up in the, you know, what, early two thousands where you could just say things were gay. Oh, that's gay. I wasn't, it was like, I,
00:58:55
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this feels gay. Yeah. And I wasn't even moralizing it. I, I, I would have, like, I would have moralized it and I knew it wasn't true, but I was just like, this is some Jonathan and David shit, right? was just thinking that. Yeah. I was really baffled by that level of like intimacy amongst the white linens.
00:59:19
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Yeah. It was a strange scene. I think everybody kind of had that thought. And you're just like, why is this? Like this, it felt too much. Like if it was shorter, but it was really the last like 10 minutes of the movie.
00:59:32
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Yeah, it was long. And then, yeah, you get an even longer cut, I think, in the ah in the extended version. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. like this is really and you're like This is a lot like a an extended cut of the original Bible. Like, most extended cuts, you just go, oh, I i don't know why I asked for this.
00:59:53
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I don't want it. Yeah. This particular verse, I think, even though it didn't make it into the Bible, it somehow made it into the church. ah It says, better is the churlishness of a man than a courteous woman.
01:00:08
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A woman, I say, which bringeth shame and reproach. So better is like the obnoxious, annoying, haughty, proud, like scornful man than a courteous woman.
01:00:25
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I mean, because obviously women are awful and we the Bible tells us. So that's how we know it's true. This guy was not a fan, whoever wrote this, Ecclesiasticus or Jesus the jesus the the the Minor or Jesus the Major or whatever. This guy, he wrote this immediately after being cheated on. And that's all you need to know about his backstory.
01:00:49
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Yeah, and it is like, ah it does spend a strange amount of time like focusing on, ah you know, how awful unchaste women are.
01:01:00
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It seems to be a real theme in that book. So yeah, that's Ecclesiasticus. I hope everybody learned a lot. I did. ah Not about myself. I'm good there. But I will take everything that wasn't about me to heart, just like a good Christian.
Critique of Drug Abuse Symptom Lists
01:01:20
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ah So, okay. Now we're we're jumping to a different topic. A couple weeks ago, a few weeks ago or whatever, we read a passage from the New Dare to Discipline by Dr. James Dobson.
01:01:34
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yes very riveting stuff very informative it really changed the way that i'm going to approach parenting um especially if one of my kids turns out to have autism i know that i'll have to make some real serious changes in the way that i approach addressing that yeah you just chubby bunny them with candy and then if they're naughty you put them in the box Right. yeah and and box I can't see out of mine are mine. At least I know would be the talking kind. So like i can rule out some of the more egregious examples of what to do through what he would call ah strict behaviorism. I'm glad I don't have to do that because that would hurt me maybe um more than it would hurt them.
01:02:25
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ah But luckily, ah that I know already crossed that I already crossed that bridge. So ah could you know use lesser forms of behaviorism to to change their way. But we'll see. um you know Jury's still out on one of them. We'll see um where we go. But I'm thankful i have this book to direct me and guide me. it That happens to be something that I and my child have to deal with.
01:02:54
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and So we're jumping kind of pretty far into the book. This is right at the end. It's actually in the appendix. um This section, set it's called A Quick Survey of Drugs and Substance Abuse for Parents.
01:03:06
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Okay. And being that we're in an economic, you know, ah tailspin, and usually that sorts of time period correlates to, you know, substance abuse and depression and things like that. I thought this would be a really useful chapter for us to pick through. um So it opens up with Dr. Dobson just kind of giving us ah a good look at what substance abuse is and why it's important.
01:03:31
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There is no more certain destroyer. It's important to abuse substances. Yeah. There's no more certain destroyer of self-discipline and self-control than the abusive use of drugs.
01:03:42
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Teens who have begun taking drugs in whatever form often show a sudden disinterest in everything that challenged them. Is getting high on the a abuse of children not a drug? I'm still not sure based on this book. Yeah, he's kind of a junkie for that sort of thing. He can't stop.
01:04:00
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Their schoolwork is ignored and hobbies are forgotten. Their personal appearance often becomes sloppy, which is maybe the most part. They refuse to carry responsibility and avoid activities that require effort. Their relationships with the parents deteriorates rapidly and they suddenly terminate many of their lifelong friendships.
01:04:18
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Drung drug root users are clearly marching to a new set of drums and disaster often awaits them at the end of the cha trail trail. To help parents recognize and understand what a possible drug problem with in their sons and daughters, we have provided the following overview of the basics. Are they tucking their shirt in like Twitty from Even Stevens?
01:04:39
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ah ah Twitty. I forgot about Twitty. I pray that neither you nor they will ever need it. Though some of the facts are technical, I recommend that you are carefully study and even memorize the important details from this summary and review the glossary of drug world slang later in this chapter. Drug world slang.
01:05:01
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I hope you have that dog ear. I want to know it is. Yay! can't wait. It's so good. i I love how he's like, in case you don't know, like he's about to lay out some concrete, hardcore facts on what using drugs might look like. And if you're, if you're wondering like, well, where did Dr. Dobbs and learn all this stuff? He says, I am indebted to several law enforcement agencies and other sources for their help in compiling this information, which he probably went straight to the detectives that testified during the satanic panic that like, uh, Pink Floyd was was turning into gay murderers or whatever.
01:05:42
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What are the symptoms of drug abuse? And I think what's funny as you read these is like how many of these just sound like a teenager? Yeah, ah I'm expecting them to be mostly benign.
01:05:56
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Listed below are eight related physical and emotional symptoms that may indicate drug abuse by your child. May indicate. And this is what's so funny is like he's just laying out like, all right, if you're going look at like the the DSM,
01:06:12
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and but in order to diagnose like some like severe mental health ailment or any sort of mental health. Like the DSM is used as a diagnostics for ADHD, like whatever. It's just, but it always will list like, here's 12 things.
01:06:29
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Or it'll be like, here's eight things in this category and four things in this category. And in order to be diagnosed with this, you need to have four from this one and three from this one. Like, it's very specific. He's listing eight things and then that's it. Like,
01:06:45
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I bet you could actually, I'm glad he's going to law enforcement because you probably could just like hit up the DSM real quick for like what addictive behavior looks like. And it'd be, and then you might have some of those symptoms, but he's just, here's eight symptoms that could possibly indicate no indication as to how many of those you might need in order to i'd say be diagnosed. two If you get any two of these, you can conclude that your kid is a junkie. I'll keep that in mind, and then we'll decide how much I'm addicted to substances. Number one, inflammation of the eyelids and nose is common. The pupils of the eyes are either very wide or very small, depending on the kind of drugs used.
01:07:27
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Yeah, okay. Also, that depending on the kind of drugs used, the fact that we're just using this carte blanche as potential users of drugs, and then he's just being this vague about symptoms, like...
01:07:41
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Every drug has different symptoms. Everyone also includes alcohol and tobacco in the listed drugs. Oh, my God. well just so you can Loser.
01:07:52
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Two extremes of energy may be represented. The individual may be sluggish, gloomy and withdrawn or loud, hysterical and jumpy. Also known as the full spectrum of the human experience. Yes. At any given time, you represent one of those two things.
01:08:11
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Three, the appetite is extreme, either very great or very poor. Weight loss may occur. Yeah. Also known as being a teenager, also known as potential body dysmorphia, also known as potential eating disorder.
01:08:25
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Good job, Dawson. Blah, blah, blah, drugs. Yep. a Four, the personality suddenly changes. The individual may become irritable, inattentive, and confused, or aggressive, suspicious, and explosive.
01:08:38
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Also known as puberty. Here's an important one. Five, body and breath odor is often bad. Also known as puberty. Okay. Cleanliness may be ignored.
01:08:51
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So if you're like, i have a teenager who is sluggish and has bad breath. You're like, dude, I'm taking you to rehab. I'm not taking no for an answer. the digest six The digestive system may be upset. Diarrhea, nausea, and vomiting may occur. Headaches and double vision are also common. Other signs of physical deterioration may include change in skin tone and body stance.
01:09:17
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So if your teenager has diarrhea and bad posture. or Or maybe they had bad posture. Now they have really good posture. Any sudden change, I think, is suspect. Yeah, you got to be careful.
01:09:29
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With intravenous drug users, needle marks on the body, usually appearing on the arms, are an important symptom. the puncture These punctures sometimes get infected and appear as sores and boils, which, okay, maybe.
01:09:43
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Sure, that could be a sign. um what kind of What age kids are we talking about here? Right. If you're getting into using needles...
01:09:55
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prior to the age of 18, there's a good chance that you knew about it. You don't need Dr. Dobson to lay out symptoms for you. Like, oh, ah did he leave out sleeping for 72 hours straight?
01:10:10
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Because that probably was the first tell.
01:10:14
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My kid was experimenting with meth. They slept for 72 hours straight and then didn't sleep for four days. Like that's this guy. This guy's actually a fucking idiot.
01:10:26
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Well, number eight is probably the most important. OK, moral values often crumble and are replaced by new outlandish ideas and values. Each drug produces its own unique symptoms.
01:10:38
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it Which is different values to occur out of each drug. And he lists eight, eight possible symptoms. What is like, uh, what is like excessive, uh, nicotine usage? Is that just libertarianism? Yeah. It's a direct symptom. It's doing that like, uh, just constantly like, well, it depends on the nicotine, I guess. Uh, I want to see the symptoms that he has for like kids who got on Zins, you know?
01:11:09
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I think it's, yeah, I think it's ah ah it's like an over-obsession with free market capitalism. they They start overcompensating with their speech by pursing their lips so you don't see the corner of the packet at the side of the lip.
01:11:24
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Everybody is doing those now. Old guys I know are suddenly doing like zins. I mean, it's... do The way I said that sounds, I sound like Dr. Dobson. Yeah. I, I, I feel like all on all the data we have on ways to ingest nicotine, it's definitely going to come out that Zins are by far the best way to do that. Maybe second to nicotine gum.
01:11:50
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Um, obviously we know big tobacco is trash and evil and they don't care about getting people off the cigarettes. Most big tobacco companies have bought all the, the nicotine pouch companies at this point. Um,
01:12:04
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because originally, as all things are marketed towards getting people off of cigarettes. um But at the end of the day, if you switch over to something like that, if you smoke regularly and you have your entire life and you switch to that, that's great. Unfortunately, as with vapes and now nicotine pouches, it has increased the chances of smoking in a lot of people. People who normally wouldn't have smoked are like...
01:12:31
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Oh yeah, I'll give it a shot. Like, but as, as a way to ingest nicotine, which is similar to caffeine and its long-term side effects and its impact on your body and your health and your whatever. Like nicotine in and of itself isn't really a problem. It's an addictive substance and it comes at a financial cost.
01:12:51
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But like cigarettes are trash. Cigarettes are horrible for you. I'll go to bat for the nicotine pouches. If you smoked. I'm going to say number nine, moralizing and making excuses. I think du i think you're doing Zin.
01:13:04
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I have, look at look, look, look, look. like look I'm showing you lips, my leg of hair, I'm clean. even have an under-lip tattoo. Like, you're not a real scene kid, dude. You should have gotten barbecue, like, tattooed on your lip.
01:13:17
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I might not do zins, but I did tattoo zin in the upper corner of my lip. Make a little packet, like a little packet tattoo. So, like yeah, I'm technically always doing a zin, but also not doing a zin.
01:13:31
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well Each drug produces its own unique symptoms. Thus, the above list is not specific to a particular substance. and No kidding. Parents who suspect their child is using dangerous drugs, including alcohol and tobacco, should contact their family physician immediately.
01:13:48
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Or just call the cops. Yeah, I mean, call the DEA even. I would call the DEA. You'd swat your 12-year-old if you catch him with like a a vape.
01:14:00
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Yeah. what are Where are the drugs obtained? Illicit drugs are surprisingly easy to obtain by adolescents. The family medicine cabinet. Dobson doesn't know how to get illicit drugs. knows.
01:14:12
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No way he knows how to get his hands on anything. All he knows how to do is get cigarettes and alcohol because you can still buy them at any store. This guy doesn't know how to get weed.
01:14:23
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I would love to watch Dobson act like he knew how to get weed. He took all this directly from Detective Carbuncle that does the dare. Yeah, I want a roadmap from Dobson on how he explains how children get weed. That would be very entertaining. The family medicine cabinet usually offers a handy stockpile of prescription drugs, cough medicines, tranquilizers, sleeping pills, reducing aids, and painkillers.
01:14:46
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Paint thinner, glue, and other toxic materials in the garage are also liable to be used as a means of getting high, which, wow, we're going totally out into left field if we're talking about like huffing gas. Yeah. know Furthermore, a physician can be tricked into prescribing the desired drugs. A reasonably intelligent person can learn from a medical tax the symptoms of diseases which are usually treated with the drug he wants.
01:15:13
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This is a talking about something that he has heard of, but like it's just like when you hear like a Fox News talking head talk out their ass about how terrorist networks work.
01:15:26
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Yeah. It's like, they not you don't know, dude. one hundred You just that heard from somebody. It's bullshit. Prescriptions can also be forged and passed at a local pharmacy. Oh my That's not a thing anymore. It's really not. They get called over from, no one walks into a pharmacy with like a handwritten script.
01:15:47
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Some drugs reach the street market after having been stolen from pharmacies, doctors' offices, or manufacturers' warehouses. However, the vast majority of drugs are smuggled into this country. Surprisingly, many of them are first manufactured here and sold abroad before finding their way back as contraband.
01:16:04
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Does he go, is the next chapter all about why we need to stop illegal immigration? ah I'm sure he had strong opinions on it. This is a, this is an interesting section. Okay. We're working up to the grand finale.
01:16:18
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ah How much do drugs cost? Okay. Though the prices of various illicit drugs vary a great deal. Does he say that they're free at first to get you hooked? I wish, I wish there was a piece on that.
01:16:32
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Usually they start out free. yeah Usually they give you a so a free sample. And then once you're hooked, they charge a lot. Old scruff McDobson. Yeah.
01:16:47
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Laid it out. ah A very great deal from from area to area and dealer to dealer. Depending on quantity and quality, the following figures represent the approximate black market values for the substances indicated at the present time. No way!
01:17:02
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He's getting into details. He's not... The option is the kind of guy that thinks that like thinks the black market is like a, like where black people sell stuff. yeah Yeah. You just walk in in a ski mask and like pick up a a basket and just kind of go around and pick stuff off the shelves. The black markets, the Trader Joe's on the south side of town.
01:17:24
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ah ah
01:17:28
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Amphetamines, $1 and up per pill. Methamphetamine. It's 20, dude. now this when what This is old, right? Oh, yeah. this ninety This was updated in the 80s or I think. It was originally written in the 70s or something. I forget. $1 a pill. Yeah, it's like $20. I think if you...
Drug Pricing and Potency Comparisons
01:17:47
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No, over a decade ago, it was like... i My understanding was that it was... um Like, if you want... I knew a kid... I worked with a kid who would like snort perks before work and shit. I'm pretty sure the pharmacy is charging more than $1 per Vyvanse.
01:18:02
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Right? It's actually cheaper to get that shit on the black market. ah I like the units of measurement in some of these. Yeah. Methamphetamine, $10 per injection or snort.
01:18:17
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Oh, yeah. Real scientific measurements given you. That's nice. It is widely available in both powder and ice formulations. He doesn't even know what that means. He he re wrote that down. He doesn't know.
01:18:32
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and typically smold in small plastic bags containing about a quarter gram of the drug. He thinks the ice is actually frozen, you shove it up your asshole, and while it melts, it slowly gets you high.
01:18:45
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Many people call it the poor man's cocaine. That's the one you get at the black market. $1 and up per pill. ah Four, and this one's important. Marijuana cigarettes.
01:18:59
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Oh my God.
01:19:03
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$2.50. $2.50 and up for each. Okay, a okay chef. Marijuana is... was $3.50. Sorry, I didn't... Failed that joke. South Park reference. I don't even know if you knew my joke.
01:19:19
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Marijuana is commonly sold in small plastic bags for $10, enough for three to four cigarettes. Due to advanced growing... to here's Here's some great propaganda. Does he say how many blunts?
01:19:31
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He doesn't know what a blunt means. don think I don't think he uses the word blunt anywhere in here. Here's the propaganda part right here. Due to advanced growing techniques, today's marijuana is about three times as strong as was ah what was available to the Woodstock generation during the 60s and 70s.
01:19:49
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By the pound, cheap homegrown marijuana sells for approximately $250. The same amount of a more potent, better grade marijuana can sell for anywhere between $1,300 and $3,000.
01:20:01
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1300, like using very specific numbers to add, ah you know, credibility to his nonsense. Like, why is he even getting into that? I don't know.
01:20:12
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Heroin, $10 to $25 per injection. It is often packaged for sale in small kitty balloons for $30 and up. Enough for three quote unquote hits. A pound with an average street purity of 10% costs $20,000 to $25,000.
01:20:29
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Heroin is still as popular today as it has ever been, though cocaine and marijuana currently seem to attract more attention in the media. Cocaine, $5 to $20 per usage, whether in powder for snorting or hardened rock slash crack format for smoking.
01:20:47
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Commonly sold on the street in plastic bags for about $25 and up per quarter gram, enough for two to four quote-unquote hits. A kilo of cocaine, about 2.2 pounds, typically sells for between $17,500 and $28,000, but 40. This all just a flex.
01:21:04
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He's just flexing. he's like He just wants you to know he knows. That's all. Yeah, that's ah that's all this is. This sale of this drug is truly big business.
01:21:15
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This one's fun. Hallucinogens. $1 to $10 per usage, though prices vary considerably depending on the quality and type. Just like symptoms, apparently.
01:21:28
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These days, LSD, acid, typically sells on blotter paper imprinted with colorful decals of cartoon characters, cars, etc., and is frequently referred to by the decal. Thus, if the picture on the blotter paper were of Mickey Mouse, it would be called Mickey Mouse acid.
01:21:50
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ah
01:21:56
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LSD also comes as a liquid and as a gelatin substance. freak you Figure $100 to $300 for 100 hits, another common hallucinogen. PCP is widely available in liquid form at about $150 $250 ounce, powder. runs the actual gamut on this.
01:22:17
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PCP is often used to lace other drugs, especially marijuana and cocaine. Oh my goodness. if your eight-year-old is taking PCP, like the state should take them away from you. PCP is a threat for your teenager. like the the The fault is yours. you know yeah I don't know. Sometimes people would dip a cigarette in PCP and be like, you want to smoke?
01:22:45
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What are the most common illicit drugs? Dangerous drugs can be categoried categorized into five major divisions appearing below. Fundamental details are probably presented to allow parents to learn what their teen probably knows already.
01:23:01
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ah Stimulants. Oh my god, how how much how long how much does how much more does he do on this? Oh, quite a bit. ah He lists out each each specific drug and then like the slang terms for it.
01:23:15
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So he says, benzadrine, bennies, whites, dexedrine, dexes, hearts, methamphetamine, speed, meth run, crystal meth.
01:23:27
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I hate him. I actually hate him so much.
01:23:32
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ah Depressants. ah Let's see. Second all. Red. Red devils. Pinkies. Pink ladies. this This guy, he's not a real person.
01:23:44
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Nembutal. Yellows. Yellow jackets. Two and all. Rainbows. Double trouble. Ametal. Blues. Blue heavens. uh hallucinogens um lsd uh acid vitamin a psilocybin magic mushrooms or shrooms wow he nailed it he got that down this one's confusing he says peyote and the slang term is mescaline ah peyote sounds like the slang term for mescaline that's what i would have thought too but what do i know i'm not doc i'm not a doctor you know or a drug addict
01:24:22
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ah Uh, PCC. going to see count Kratom. Sure. Or energy drinks. Yeah. the Oh, dude, they're making Kratom illegal here. Are they really? Apparently so. I talked to a guy at the store today and he was like, yeah, they're illegal like ja July 1st.
01:24:38
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And I'm a hopeless addict, dude. I need Dr. Dobson's help. Um, okay. Marijuana. You ready? Because maybe you're familiar with some of these slang terms.
01:24:51
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grass, pot, joint, weed.
01:24:59
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Hey man, wanna to do some joint?
01:25:06
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ah ah Narcotics, heroin, horse, H, hairy, smack, brown. Dude, I'm just going to keep going. I'm done with this guy. I don't give a fuck anymore. We haven't gotten to the good part yet. No, this is too much. It's been going on for too long. We've we've arrived. All right, pause real quick. I'm going to pee. I have have to pee out all the drugs that I took while you did this.
01:25:34
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Okay, our bladders are empty, and we're ready to embark on a journey. Oh my God, we've been on a journey, dude. So we've arrived at the at the, this is the cherry on top, the glossary of drug world slang.
Drug Slang and Family Speculation
01:25:49
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The following list will help you identify today's common drug world slang, but keep in mind that the terminology varies in different parts of the country and changes extremely rapidly. Didn't we just do this? How is this going to be different?
01:26:03
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it's ah Well, this is more comprehensive. Also, with the prevalence of wiretaps and electronic surveillance techniques used in drug enforcement, users often call drugs by anything but what you see on the list.
01:26:17
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For example, an individual who wants to buy, say, a couple of pounds of marijuana from his usual source might use the word taco, banana, radio, shirt, telephone... Or some other nonsense word instead of the more usual grass, pot, weed, et cetera.
01:26:35
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So if every if you can use any nonsense word, it means you've wasted all this ink, dude, because people are going to call it. It's just a safe word at that point. Maybe you don't every understand. Okay. It's whatever you made up.
01:26:48
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I'm going to call weed Dobson from now on. Yeah. I like that. You guys want to go out and hit a Dobson?
01:27:00
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Thus, if you were to hear their conversation, it may sound something like this. Oh, we're getting into it. I'm looking to cop a couple bananas.
01:27:11
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Okay. I'm looking to cop a couple feels. I've got one banana now and can clean another banana and a half by Saturday.
01:27:21
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As it is said, a rose by any other name smells just as sweet. Likewise, drugs by any other name are just as dangerous. Don't be fooled. he yeah Dude, he worked on that line a lot. He had writer's block trying to seal that one up. He thought that was really clever because hearing your kid say, I want to cop a couple of bananas. How soon can you have a half banana cleaned for me?
01:27:48
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Dude, one of his kids has to hate him enough to talk to us. I would imagine. Yeah, there's got to be a grandkid that just hates his gut. Doesn't he have a trans grandkid that just wants to like just just crap on his grave or something?
01:28:01
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He probably statistically it's not, it's like almost impossible not to, because I feel like they had a large family. Yeah. So we're moving on to the the glossary of terms.
01:28:16
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Okay. And this is pretty comprehensive. So kicking it off, we have acid, um also known as LSD, paper acid, blotter, blots, tabs, windowpane, green star, sugar cube, blotter, white lightning, micro dot, acid green, red green, blue heaven, vitamin A, AC, CID, or fry.
01:28:38
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This is just this has all the feel of the.
Complexity of David Lynch's Works
01:28:44
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What's his name? Who's the bug eye dude from all the Adam Sandler movies? Oh, Steve Buscemi Buscemi. It says all the feel of like that Steve Buscemi meme where he's got the skateboard over his shoulder and he's like, hello, fellow kids.
01:29:01
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Okay, so maybe you're out and about with your quote-unquote friends, although we could question that. And you hear them mention acid heads. You may not know it, but that means users of LSD.
01:29:14
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I thought it meant someone laced their condom tip with poison. ah That's a common Russian assassination technique, but that's a whole different subject. ah Blue velvet combination of a paragoric, an upper with an antihistamine.
01:29:35
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Wasn't that a movie? what Oh yeah. That's a very weird, just disturbing movie. Did they use that? Whatever it was combined with antihistamines? No, they used a guy like getting hard to watching a a dude beat up a lady.
01:29:50
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Oh, okay. It's very... I certainly didn't get that movie when I watched it way back when. I don't know if I would get it now.
01:30:02
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um There's some stuff, like David Lynch stuff, I just... Look, I'm not smart enough for it. I know people love it. I know people talk all to all the time about... Oh, what's that? What's that TV show that people are obsessed with?
01:30:16
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OK, that's a lot. David, the David Lynch show. Is it Euphoria? Did he do Euphoria? No, dude. I don't know who David Lynch is. I don't know directors because I don't care about movies, really. Twin Peaks.
01:30:31
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Oh, Twin Peaks. Have you ever watched that? No. I watched I tried to watch it. I got through like the first season. i I don't get it. I think I'm just too dumb. I know people love it. I know there's something there to love and I don't understand it. So I think the problem is mine, but I just don't get it.
01:30:51
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yeah um Okay, here's a good one. Booze. that means alcohol. Okay, thanks. But you might also hear it referred to as brew, juice, suds, liquid gold, or sauce.
01:31:06
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what are we ah What are we watching? Fucking Shawshank Redemption? Oh.
01:31:13
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ah Suds is is is beer made in a ah in ah in a prison like sink. I think that's a specific term. I don't know if he nailed it on that one.
01:31:25
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Bunk. You ever hear the term bunk and think, huh, what does that mean? That means poor quality narcotics. Oh. ah Dope.
01:31:36
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That just means drugs. Yeah, all drugs. Any drugs. Also known as junk or stuff. Say say nope to dope. We know. ah Coke.
01:31:48
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This is a good one because there's a lot of terms for it. Okay. That means cocaine. along Also known as blow, flake, crack, rock, kibble bits, lines, snow, cola, powder, dove, sea, lady, free base, toot, baseball, base, girl, doing a line, snorting, dynamite, eight ball or white.
01:32:12
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He left out booger sugar. He did. it's not comprehensive, you know, toot. Just you want to do a toot. You want to, you want to toot.
01:32:23
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Want to toot together. Let's go a little further through here. You know, it's so funny to think about like boomer moms reading this being like, Oh my God. Like thinking he's a genius.
01:32:36
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Like a lot of parents read this thinking that this guy was miraculously well-informed. Yeah, he lays it out. I mean, he put a lot of work into this particular part. um Took months and months of research.
01:32:50
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He didn't have the internet then. Drying out. Abandoning drug habit. Also, kick. Cleaning up act. Cold turkey. When a user quits without help of other drugs.
01:33:04
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um This is a good one. Feds. That means federal narcotics agents. Also, Sam or Wally Nark? What?
01:33:16
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Wally Nark.
01:33:20
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Dude, you got to watch out for a Wally narc. Were those the fat guys in the wheelchairs that tried to get Wally sent up to space? Yeah, it must have been. Or down to Earth. What'd they do with Wally? I don't know. I saw that movie once. They were security on the ah the galactic fat cruise ship.
01:33:36
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Yeah. That's where the Hunta virus should have broken out.
01:33:42
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Dude, who is Okay, I know this might be like slapping some people in the face that listen to this show, but like why are you on a cruise ship? like Why are you taking a cruise?
01:33:54
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A cruise is like... ah cruise is That is like NPC plug-and-play vacation. ah Dude, I would do a cruise. No, come on now. Look, you know me enough to know that you should have thought about that before you said that, because you have a sense of adventure.
01:34:13
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You like to do things. if If you haven't learned enough about me by now to know that my ideal is like... to be stationary an area and just drink. You just want to get drunk and eat bottomless world's worst Belgian waffle.
01:34:33
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and I don't like waffles. Come down with a, with a rodent born disease. Like I don't want your cabin with diarrhea. I don't want to go on just any cruise, but my kids think the idea of a Disney cruise is dope as fuck. I would do a Disney cruise. I'm not, I'm fine with that. I,
01:34:52
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and Also don't have a lot of money. And so sometimes cruise is the best bang for your buck because of the cost that it comes with. The kids are involved. I get it. Like I get that a cruise ship is probably great if you have kids because there's lots of activities and it's somewhat like cordoned off from things,
Pros and Cons of Cruise Vacations
01:35:13
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you know? Yeah. And the great open ocean that your kids could drown in. But yeah, I see what you mean. That's college kids stuff.
01:35:21
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I don't... I wouldn't just do any cruise. I would do an Alaskan cruise. I would do... Honestly, if it was cheap enough and all-inclusive, I'd do most cruises.
01:35:35
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Why not opt for something more fun? I mean, i would if I could afford something more fun. There's got to be so many things that are more fun and affordable than going on a Yeah, but they also require doing stuff. like you like You'll drive 20 hours to go look at a rock in the middle of fucking nowhere, dude. And you'll jerk off the whole time. And you'll love it. You are good. I took breaks.
01:36:02
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There's shit behind one. okay i but I just had this like this like gnawing fear that I was going to like trip backwards and fall in it the whole time, you know? i i also just tumble down the mountain covered in my own crap.
01:36:25
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But I also wouldn't do a cruise like Jill and I wouldn't just do a cruise like An Alaskan cruise where you see the Northern Lights all the time. Something cool like that for a few days, sure. But like, if we were going to do a vacation, we would just pick an all-inclusive resort and go hang out there for five days. That's what we would do.
01:36:43
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Five days. Yeah, dude, I don't give a shit. to dode Okay, you don't have kids, so fuck you for thinking doing nothing is awesome. Or is it awesome? I...
01:36:55
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Would be to sit on the beach every day and until I fall asleep and get sunburned to a crisp. I would be good with that. If I could just do it and not have to cater to anybody else's needs.
01:37:06
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Abso-fucking-lutely. That sounds great, dude. And I'd do some excursions. I'd do some shit. I just wouldn't want to have to plan it. I would just sign up for it through the fucking all-inclusive. i I'm not good at relaxing. No, you're not. I have to move all the time.
01:37:23
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why you and I can't go on vacation together ever. I'll kill myself if I go on vacation. I would run somebody into the ground on vacation. I would go if it was like a, no, I would like, if it was like a couple's thing, it would, it wouldn't, it wouldn't go well because it'd be too many conflicting ideas of what's fun. But if you planned like a five day, like road, like trip where we did a lot of driving and it was just us,
01:37:51
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I would go along for the ride if I didn't have to plan anything. And I would just be like, I will go wherever Casey takes me to whatever weird backwoods, whatever. Like I would, I would go. um ah I also like just going along for the ride. If it's not, if I have zero responsibility to plan anything and to make sure someone else has a good time, I'll have a good time.
01:38:11
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Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, speaking of your kids, I think there's a couple of terms here that we need to just clarify. Make sure your kids are not in danger of becoming addicts.
Humorous Comparisons of Addictions
01:38:24
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My son's addicted to making paper airplanes right now. I don't know if that counts. Oh, there's got to be something here about that. All I know is I have so many, dozens.
01:38:35
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He watches YouTube videos of how to make different types of stunt planes. Oh, that's kind of awesome, actually. I love it. It's hilarious. Because all I do is see him running around my house just launching paper for hours on end. It's it's it's super cute. And then he takes them outside. But it is like...
01:38:55
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if there' is If there's an addiction in my household, it is ah my son wanting to fold paper to YouTube videos. Well, if he ever mentions grass, that means marijuana.
01:39:09
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Also referred to as pot, reefer, weed, joint, J, Mary Jane, bag, herb, hay, tea, dope, bud, sensimilla, sensimilla, tie sticks, hash, hashish, dime, nickel, quarter, smoke, green, skunkweed, rope, acapulco acapulco gold panama red mexican red hair kona gold maui wowie this is before perp apparently i guess so um this is there are some strange ones in here it's also weird how redundant he's been because he i think he's trying to meet a publisher's word count
01:39:52
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It does seem so. he He defines five o as $50 purchase of drugs, typically rock cocaine, also 2-0, etc. Isn't 5-0 like ah police?
01:40:05
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Yeah. yeah Which I never knew why. Why is 5-0 the cops? i don't I don't know. I'm not sure at all. I'm going to look that one up while you read through 17 more drug names. The Heat.
01:40:16
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Okay? That means police. Also known as Pigs, The Man, Big John, Cops, Narcs, Fuzz. Big John.
01:40:28
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I like that he said pigs. That's fun. These are referred to as five. Oh, due to the popular 1968 to 1980 television crime drama, Hawaii. five o Oh, interesting. That's it Very simple.
01:40:43
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um Here's a term you may have heard. Hooker. Oh my God. Is he worried about you? He thinks people are, he thinks teens are addicted to hookers now.
01:40:53
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Also known as working girl, strawberry, ho, whore, street Walker, lady of the night. Turning tricks. They're known as turning tricks.
01:41:05
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I think he thinks they are. Yeah. Turning tricks for joint. She was she wants to cop a couple of bananas. Silly rabbit tricks are for kids.
01:41:15
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ah Let's see. Uh... Mouth holding. it Whoa. Drugs. Him and his wife almost got divorced over his research on this topic.
01:41:29
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yeah He became a man of the world. he He views this. He views his research on the same level as just being an undercover cop trying to bust open some like just insane cartel. I think where you're like doing drugs and holding a lot of his deacons like steaming semen.
01:41:50
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:41:54
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pass out that means lose consciousness from drugs i hate him can i we can we i i'm ready to be done with this i hate him so much oh there's so many good ones you can't stop you're this is i love it it's so good uh that is close to the end uh strawberry prostitute seahooker See, hooker. Oh, that's so stupid.
01:42:24
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ah Uppers, a stimulant, amphetamines, methamphetamines, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah Also, holy smokes, what a list. Crystal, crank, speed, fast, go fast, peanut butter, crystal, yellow, crosstops, white tops, hearts, Benadrine, bennies, copilots, dexedrine, dexies, peaches, whites, whiteys, LA turnabouts, black beauties, crystal meth, mother's little helpers,
01:42:50
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preludin bumblebees footballs biphetamine lid poppers wake-ups popping uppers speeding being wired flying pre-state didrex voronil tenu tenuit tepanil pediminum soonest dude he lost he lost me it took a long enough Snitch, also in informer, also rat, goner, dead man.
01:43:19
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i think he's saying... That's a message, dude. Snitch is a dead man? I think he's like sending a little... That's a little company bulletin to to people that focus on the family thinking about talking.
01:43:34
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Yeah.
01:43:39
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Smokes. Did he say bitches get stitches anywhere in this? I think it's implied for sure. ah Okay, we'll end with one one last one. Smokes.
01:43:51
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That means tobacco or nicotine. Just call them cigarettes. Call it cigarettes and then do the slang. Stop being a fucking weirdo about it. Also, cigarettes, chew, cigars, puffs, and snuff.
01:44:04
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Snuff? Apparently. Since when? This is stupid. oop
01:44:15
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Oh, how did a man this brilliant die? Clearly he wasn't as brilliant as our ah president because that guy's still plugging along. stra why Why do the worst people live forever?
01:44:33
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i don't know they just keep on going it's like they talk all these any lack of shame and self-reflection is like a a life extending technology it is because all these people talk about how like uh how sin rots your soul and uh and then these people just live forever it's not your soul yes that's it dude That's the lesson in all of this.
Philosophical and Humorous Drug Slang Discussion
01:45:01
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It's the stress that comes with feeling bad about what you do, which is why like you can just rape children into your 90s and live forever if you don't feel bad about it.
01:45:11
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Yeah, it's like the old George Costanza line where he's like, it's not a lie if you believe it. yeah ah Oh, boy. Well, keep an eye out for your kids trying to cop bananas and doing joint and whatnot.
01:45:30
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Dude, hate you for this one, actually.
01:45:36
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I feel like I got a real ear to the street right now. I'm on top of things. dude i cant I need you to start a YouTube channel where you just investigate shit using Dobson slang.
01:45:47
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You walk up to a group of teens and be like, hey, teens, you have any banana?
01:45:55
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I could be a walk-on on the wire after reading that chapter. Do you have bananas? Then they shove their dick down your throat and you're like, that's not what i meant! I'm copping it too hard! No more copping!
01:46:08
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I didn't know you were women of the night! what I'm a mouth-holding right now. feel like a real strawberry.
01:46:21
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ah Oh, man. Well... All right, folks, thanks for listening, and we will see you next time.