Toxic Relationships & Communication Issues
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She told me I was being toxic when she herself refused to communicate properly with me.
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All this was left out of the last post. yeah Yeah. All it was like, we were great. I don't know it was wrong. She didn't believe in God anymore. I told her I would wait for her. I'm a hopeless romantic like that. And everyone's like, bro, we can see through your bullshit. You're clearly a creep.
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everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And man, ah usually we drop right into something eventful that happened this week ah out of personal lives, but I don't know. I got nothing.
00:00:57
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Just coasting by, man. I'm on February vacation try case trying to get my house clean. It's not working great. I set a really lofty goal.
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Of, ah you know, all right, on Monday, we're going to do this room. On Tuesday, we're going to this room. um I'm currently three rooms behind schedule on on Wednesday. So, ah you know, but I'll celebrate the progress we made because we haven't made any progress since we moved back. into the house in June and had a baby three days
Home Improvement Struggles & Mishaps
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later. So my daughter finally has a room that's worthy of sleeping in.
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I finished hanging a bunch of stuff in both my kids' rooms, so we'll get my son's room in order tomorrow. You probably love hanging stuff, don't you? You can totally picture me hanging. I'm actually pretty good at it now, but some of the biggest fights Jill and I had when we got after we got married was just how much of a bitch ass I was about hanging pictures. It was,
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Like so it was so hard. And when it was, it, when things didn't go right, nothing, nothing killed me more than when we brought home a new decoration. And it was like the two, there was like two eye hole hooks on the back. yeah and I had to make, I'm like, fuck, I have to make sure this shit gets level.
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um And I would always get mad, like start. And that was back, you know, that was back before swearing was an acceptable thing to do in my household. So Um, which is funny because I'm just yelling. Oh, fiddlesticks. I know I would swear. And that's what would upset my wife is she would get upset with me for swearing, um, under my breath and, uh, man, I'm, but I'm pretty good at it now. I, I kind of sped right through it um
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I don't know. I still like have to measure stuff a lot. I'm like, I know there's a faster way to do this. Like I know someone could think of a better way to hang this, but I have my methods at work, so it's fine. Yeah. I take forever to do all of it. I want, I really want to be good at all that stuff, like working with my hands and everything. And I, I do a lot of it.
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I just never seem to get better at things like marking things out and leveling them and putting them in the spot that I intended to at first. And I always make it like way more complicated than it needs to be. I'm like, I've got, you know, pad and paper out and I'm like dividing this by this to make sure that the two. Yeah, it's stupid. And then it never turns out very good. It's like so much work for it to be mediocre.
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Yeah. When I put like the pencil marks on the wall and get the drill bit up there, the like 50, 50, like I'm going to slip the bit without even noticing it. Like it'll move up into the left a little bit. And when I do the other hole, it probably goes down to the right a little bit. And then I'm over there just like hitting the shit out of it, like with a hammer, trying to get the screw heads to be a little bit closer so I can still hang it and not have to like have these holes in my wall and try to read, adjust the area that it's in. Dude, that was at one time when I was trying to hang this. Um, it's just like this little hook. It's got a few hooks on it. You put your mail in it, you hang it by your door. Um,
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And it was kind of weird. Like, it's not that heavy, but the the equipment that came with them, like that's putting a pretty big, you know, the plastic studs you put in and then you screw into those. Yeah. um And I'm like, this is kind of like, these are kind of big. Like I'm a little surprised by this. So um I was, ah but whatever. So I drill out the hole. I start pounding in the, um the plastic stud or whatever they're called.
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And I just I just blow through my wall with the hammer. ah And I was just like, fuck. And I left it there for like day. was like, I'm not even doing this today. I don't know what to do with this now. I have to like move this just enough where it covers the hole because I don't want to deal with batching a hole. Oh, my God. I remember my dad, my dad will occasionally like lose his temper pretty hard, you know? And I remember like when I was a kid, he, he finished out our basement at our first house in Michigan. And, uh, he was trying to hang something on the wall and he just like could not find the stud, you know, he kept like tapping the little nail through and it would just like, boop, go straight to the bottom out. And he finally just like rages out and he just goes, wham, wham, wham. And it's, It's like a bunch of holes in the wall. My mom's like, what? What are you doing? That's so funny.
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I love, I love like the things that make dads rage out. You sent me that, um, that video. It was like a reel of just random dads getting really angry about shit. And you're like you like, I think you said, why do I have a feeling this is you when you're changing the batteries in your smoke detector? Yeah.
00:06:13
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One time ah we had four wheelers, you know, like off and on when I was a kid and my dad had one at one
Oddities in Social Media & AI-generated Content
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point. It was a a Honda 250X. It was pretty cool.
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It was like a four stroke, but it was weird because, know, like everything had kickstarts back then. But, you know, most kickstarts, you you kick it and it goes backwards. Right.
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This Honda had a ah forward kickstart, which doesn't seem like it would matter, but it does when your foot slips off of it because then it just cracks you in the shin. and he It was really hard to get started and he you know didn't ride it that much. So like every time he went to start it, it was a pain. And I remember one day he was out there like kicking it, kicking it, kicking it and couldn't get it started and stuff. And then his foot slipped and it hit him in the shin.
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And he he grabbed. one handlebar and the wheel like the back wheel and he just went flume and he threw the four-wheeler into the air it like so twisted in the air it fell down and broke the brake lever he just stared at it that there's that moment when you realize someone else watched you overreact and it's really embarrassing yeah yeah
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ah So I was ah I was scrolling tick tock the earlier this morning and I did tick tock gives me like the weirdest ads.
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Just all about signing up for the IDF. Yeah. A nice signing bonus for joining ice. You know, protect Western values and all that. Yeah. ah There is. It's always like it's always Christian jewelry, which is like it's just it's like stuff you would get out of one of those like quarter twist machines at the grocery store. Yeah, yeah.
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But it's always some lady and she's like tear giving this teary eyed pitch of how this necklace has changed her life. And it's it's super ridiculous. But or you get like these weird AI story videos where it's like, oh, the mama cat got pregnant, but the daddy cat is cheating on her and all this stuff.
00:08:26
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AI stories have just gone off the rails. and you like Almost every article you see, every like snippet that's posted on like Facebook, it might link you to a real article.
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But it's like, the stylistic... Yeah, the style of the AI writing is always the same. It's like... Critics say that X, Y, and Z, while their supporters assume that this is great for whatever. And you're like, I've watched the same like the same pattern. like Every article is the same pattern of writing. yeah and always being like like It could be the most unhinged nonsense thing, and it takes this middle-of-the-road approach. of like like you know It could be like starting war with Iran. and it's like Critics say that...
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you're like, this isn't, no one writes an article this neutrally. That's kind of one of the ways you can tell it's AI is like when it's like really neutral and in the middle and trying to give, it's like, maybe people like that. Maybe people really appreciate ai journalism for that reason. But usually it's just like,
00:09:31
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I'll take an opinion with my journalism. Sell me something. Tell me something. have you Have you gotten those videos, though, with like where it'll be like a cat family?
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i don't know why it's always a cat family. But I've seen them a whole bunch, and it's like it's ah it's always got like a sad song, but it's just meows. It's like, I have not. I got it on. um I got, I finally got rid of tick tock after it's just fully infiltrated now.
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Yeah. Well, I got an ad this morning though, that it took me a second to realize what I was looking at and I posted it on the, ah on the, our story on the Instagram page, but it's it's like you can turn your dead relative into a stuffed animal.
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i saw And it's so weird. And I was just like, what is it? what did say Why do you have like an old lady pillow? And then really like, oh my God, this is like human taxidermy. Is it? And is that real? Because I watched the story and it looked like the stuffed animal humans look like, it looks AI, right? It looks computer generated.
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Is this like a real thing? think so. Did you look into it at all? so the People in the comments were like, too bad it has bad reviews. I guess or where else they would buy one of their dead uncle or whatever. I want to know what the bad reviews are.
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I would love to look them up. We should look them up and see what they are. But I was just thinking about how funny it is that, like, you know, my grandma that passed away, she wasn't then choosing the nicest person yeah in the world, you know?
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in I was just thinking, like, because it's like an old lady stuffed animal and she's holding like a pillow with like a saying on it and stuff. And I'm like, man, if I could get my grandma's like that, like my all time favorite, like sayings from my grandma, like on this pillow of her, that
Kid Rock's Pop Culture Resurgence & Critique
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would be incredible.
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yeah It's just like her scowling and it says Ellen DeGeneres. Yuck. Yeah. yeah okay I wish I would have had an abortion.
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You think I'm joking, but I'm not. that I know you can come up with some pretty quick things off the cuff, but i something told me that that what you were quoting were well real things. Now, who did she say that about? Which which child did she wish she aborted? I better not say. It wasn't very nice and it was said multiple times.
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Damn. um Not a very nice lady. What do you do? Sunflowery.com reviews. Sunflowery is widely described as a scam with users reporting low quality products that do not match online advertisements, long shipping delays. Of course, everything's custom made. Get over yourself. It's kind of like the ah the poster of the Big Mac versus like the roadkill you get in the box.
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Many customers report receiving small, cheaply made items instead of the 3D statues or custom products they ordered. Well... I almost want to go to their website, but I am slightly afraid that like it'll make my phone a listening device for Tel Aviv or something.
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i think we just got to fully accept that that's what it is. Yeah, it is funny too. Like you start thinking about that sort of thing and you're like, well, I don't know, maybe I should do something about it. And then you start Googling and it's like, oh, well, they kind of own all the VPN companies. So yeah, I guess we're just screwed.
00:13:22
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So i I sent you a video earlier. Did you, what'd you think of the the latest health PSA from the DHS? Yeah. Um, which one was this?
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The rock and workout where ah RFK junior is doing pushups with kid rock. i It's so embarrassing. That was like sucked so bad. i can't. I could not even like there was something in my brain that it kept reminding me of, like definitely from a comedy, maybe something workaholics, um but of just like Oh, yeah.
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ah People just like lifting really hard, really fast and like acting macho. Yes. That's it. That's what it was. dude That's what it kept making me think. Primal screams. Yeah. Oh, my God. Thank you. i couldn't.
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In that, dude, Kid Rock also has meth arms. Like, looking at his body, shape it's unsettling. I hate his body. Dude, that i he looks like a drip of ketchup. He sucks so bad.
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He just, he honestly has the body of like a child orangutan. He looks like a swisher sweet thing that got left in the rain.
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Oh, I hate his guts so bad. Like, why is he still around? Like, why do they keep dragging this guy out of like his like suburban Detroit hellhole to do these events? He hasn't had a song since 2001.
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Apparently he has it. I just saw something today that he has got a new ah Christian single that's ah like somehow ah god making its way up the top of Christian charts. Like, dude, what are people doing? Like, what are we doing?
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it's It's so hard to believe that people are okay pretending to like this. Like, this is all a this is all pretend. It's not real. They're making it up. They don't like Kid Rock. And watching people, dude, it's like watching watching people just like...
00:15:34
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group think their way into pretending they like Kid Rock is like, this is this is way worse than the shit we pretended to like when we were in youth group. like I liked Kid Rock when I was in youth group. I was 12 and thought Ball With a Ball was a good song. like I grew up And even then, the first time i heard it, I was like, what's the point of this? And my friend's like, it's just cool. and I'm like, okay, it's cool.
00:16:00
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Like, you don't care. You just want to be in on the cool thing. in to want to see people post stories on the fucking, during the halftime show of them like, watching kid rock being like yeah i've always really liked me a little kid rock you're like no you didn't you've never talked about kid rock you've never listened to kid rock you don't like this you lying sack of shit why are you pretending this hard why it's an expansion of what people in michigan did because he was from michigan so everybody had to act like he was one of their own and like
00:16:34
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That somehow made him good. But like he's been awful forever. He was awful before he was political. He sucks. Did you see a little fact about him, though? You know what his favorite Italian dish is?
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ah Chicken statutory.
00:16:55
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They say it's statutory, but I say it's mandatory. Dude, it's oh, boy. Like um there's nothing, there's nothing good to glean from his lyrics, even if they weren't about like molesting teen girls.
00:17:09
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No, no. And listening to them, you're like, like the re what are people doing associating with him? Chris associating him with Christianity. It's like, I wasn't allowed to listen to him because all of his music is about fucking hoes, doing drugs and drinking.
00:17:28
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That's it. That's all he talks about. Yeah, pretty rock and roll, if you ask me. And that's, ah now that's cool. It's cool because, ah it's...
00:17:39
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it's It's like the the greatest admission that you have no scruples. You are just identity politics all the way down. Your faith is a meaningless faith. I have no interest in it. Valueless, meaningless, useless. It doesn't guide your principles at all. It's just an afterthought for you to fucking make yourself feel good when you talk to big sky daddy God about your rough day that he's looking out for you because somehow if God can make kid rock famous he can make your life okay like if kid rocks doing all right it's not fair that you aren't and i understand the impulse to want to pray to that god yeah yeah but it's stupid
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Some of my coworkers like posted in the group chat that we've got, and they're like, dude, who's switching over to the to the halftime show to watch Kid Rock? And I was like, Kid Rock sucks the sweatiest pair of balls. He has the musical equivalent of like those Skull and Dragon ashtrays that they sell at Phillips 66. Yeah.
00:18:44
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He's it's the worst. He is the worst. It's like musical poison. It's garbage. Big time. it's I like nu metal. Okay. I don't have good taste in music. I've said it before. I'll say it again. i like nu metal.
00:18:59
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Kid Rock sucks. He is bad. Yeah, it's a it just dude it's just disappointing. I'm almost having a harder time watching people pretend they like Kid Rock more than it's been hard for me to realize that their faith has been meaningless all along.
00:19:16
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It hurts more. It does. It's just...
AI Relationships & Their Absurdities
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It's sad. Like, ah what did I see? I saw um ah someone posted something that said Kid Rock is the people version of an above ground pool. Yeah, dude. That one was funny. He's like a trampoline with a hole in it.
00:19:42
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it too much. One of those pullover Charlotte's Hornets jackets that everybody wore for a while. Dude, ah another shift though, going back to the AI conversation,
00:19:56
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Um, we haven't had this conversation yet. I've been seeing this more frequently online. Um, I had put the article pulled up on Facebook, but it, uh, you know how every time you reopen Instagram or Facebook, it doesn't matter what you were clicked on. It just decides to refresh and show you new stuff that tells you infuriating. You don't want to know. Yeah. Um, so that's, it's gone, but basically I found this, it was just a post that,
00:20:25
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about a restaurant in New York City that had a, the Facebook post was misleading. So I did, I did check it out on Google. Um,
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But there was um ah a restaurant that catered towards people with AI girlfriends. So each table was like basically set up to have like a screen ah that you would be able to, you know, talk to your AI girlfriend or boyfriend.
00:20:54
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ah But let's be real. Women aren't following. Women aren't... I don't think I've never heard of a woman with the AI boyfriend. It's always the other way around. I've heard of it. I don't think women, women are not as like keen on, uh, like living their truth out loud in that regard. I feel like, yeah, like that's ah a man can really wrap his head around being that pathetic. I think, you know, it's harder for a lady.
00:21:20
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It's weird when you see someone who looks like some that they have some level of respectability, maybe little dapper. not i mean, whatever. it could be a six even. you know like When you see certain people go down that road, you you have a lot of questions.
00:21:39
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Like there's there's a human archetype, a physical archetype where you look at them and you go, I get it, dude. ah You know, honestly, whatever makes you happy. But there is a point in which you see the way somebody looks and presents themselves and you go, what's going on?
00:21:55
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I need, I'm going to need you to help me understand this. Yeah. Yeah. There are physical tells to ai dating people, you know, like a Rick and Morty t-shirt.
00:22:06
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Yeah. Yeah. Anime, dude, I know you like anime, but it's a crossover there. Yeah, I'm an anime guy now. Yeah. See, this is it. Like, see, women are much less willing to just give up on all prospects. And me, on the other hand, I'm like, oh, I'm anime guy now. That's that's what I do.
00:22:29
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I think men are forever looking for something to bolster their personal identity with. Yeah. Like, all right, here's an example of it in my life recently.
00:22:40
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I've been watching Naruto. I'm on season six of like the original, not Shippuden. And I, I like it, but I like, I'm watching it with my kids.
00:22:54
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um And that is really fun. So there's a lot I like about it, but would I continue watching it if we weren't watching it as a family? Probably not. i'm not It's not like that for me, but it's nice to have something to watch with the kids that like. But when I'm at work and I'm talking to somebody who's a big Naruto fan, I suddenly act like more into it than I probably actually am.
00:23:20
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And I don't feel like I'm trying to lie, like, or be like, what but it's like, I'm more tapping into the things that I do appreciate about it for the sake of conversation. um But maybe I am doing a little bit like, this is me.
00:23:34
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i'm I'm this guy in this context in this time because it makes me feel like connected or part of something. It adds a nice feeling. ah So it's fine.
00:23:45
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I'm looking for the next big hobby for me. I don't know what's next for me. I don't know what thing I'm going to get into next that I can make people know that I'm into. um I don't know. I mean, i always go back to the same suggestion. I think like model train guy. Yeah.
00:24:00
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yeah That's what you should be. I i don't... it's a great like so That's a great season of life to transition into. i i get the appeal. i don't have the patience for...
00:24:14
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model trains setting up like all the little sceneries doing all that it's not me you could be like uh uh you know train maximalist guy you know where you go to the tracks and you're like oh my god oh my god it's a saint louis steamer oh this is a great day train maxing yeah i i don't dude i the thing that's maybe it's ai girl maybe you need an ai girlfriend i that might give me the sense of adventure that i need and i think uh i think coming out to your wife as poly so that you can you can get an ai girlfriend would be one of the funniest things
00:24:56
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of all time when do you think there's gonna there'll be an actual word for that if there isn't already that i'm unaware of when do you think they'll add a new letter to the lgbtq spectrum that includes people who are into ai there's definitely there i bet you there's one already yeah and probably a flag everybody's got to have a flag yeah i mean what are you gonna do without i mean you have to wave you need to advertise who you are just a commodore 66 with a boner
00:25:29
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just ah i do think it's funny like yeah pixel big pixels I think, ah i don't know you know, we were just chatting about this before we started recording, but like I i really have a hard time even having sympathy for people who do that.
00:25:48
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yeah It feels like like you read these stories about somebody who's like, you know, I... i My husband, you know, like cheated on me with Grok or something like that, you know, like there's been some there's been a few articles out where it's like a lady or or someone talking about how like their partner has just got it like this romantic attachment to an AI chat bot or something.
00:26:16
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And every time they explain it, it's the most narcissistic thing ever. It's basically like, yeah, it's just nice to have someone to talk to who won't judge me and this and that and the other. And it's like, so you basically like, it's nice to have someone to talk to. That's just going to like reflect your viewpoints back at you. You're just dating a mirror basically.
00:26:39
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Yeah. Which is, which is insane. It's bad for you. And they're not going to tell them they're like, pick up their trash, you know, like around the house. They're not going to tell clean their room. They're going to tell them they smell bad, that they need to wash their balls and their taint and their asshole.
00:26:57
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Yeah. My AI girlfriend likes licking my dirty asshole. like, no, she doesn't. You just, you just sit on your iPad, dudes. It's not the same thing.
00:27:08
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And she's a rhinoceros with pink fur. It's a, yeah, I I'm with you, man. I, i do feel like I do feel something for the women who are going through this.
00:27:20
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um But what kind i mean, if you're if you're significant others, like spending all their time with smarter child, like how great of a girlfriend are you? Let's be real.
00:27:37
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Like the one article I was reading, this guy, it was talking about this guy who basically got attached to this AI chat bot and was spending all his time is like in love with it, you know, for all the narcissistic reasons. And apparently there's like a, there's like a memory cap on those things where like it's recording data. And at some point it's going to reset and start over. Cause it just can't store all of this. Like,
00:28:05
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accumulated data for every user or whatever it's he's like girlfriend seppuku yeah he's like he's like i actually felt like i went into mourning it felt like there was ah ah a death of a loved one it's like shut up oh my god shut up this is the most pathetic thing i've ever heard it is knock it off <unk> clear You know, this is one thing that within like the the ex evangelical community, like it's big. You know, everybody's big on like the no kink shaming and this and that and the other. And i've I've said it before. I'll say it again. Like shame has a place in things. Yes. There are things you should be ashamed of and you should not tell people if you're going to do them or you should just not do them at all.
00:28:53
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There are some itches you shouldn't scratch. And if you have the the like the impulse to um write you know ah rape stories, if that's your kink, yeah you should not do that. Don't do that. It's not it's not cool. It's not a you know a harmless expression of you know like these fantasies you'd never act on. as No, do not do that.
00:29:18
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Don't put it out there. Don't put it out there for other weirdos to read. Like it's disgusting. Don't do it. Not interested in listening to to somebody defend stuff like that, you know, and some of this stuff like that's dangerous for other people. This is stuff that's like it's kind of harmless in that it's it's only harming you. And if you want to harm yourself, like, go ahead, I guess.
00:29:39
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Yeah, I. I don't... Okay. The rape stories, the writing... You're talking like people going out of their way to write fantasy, like rape fantasy stuff? Is that... Yeah. Because I feel like right now we're living in a world of weird novels where, like, everyone's writing some, like...
00:29:59
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weird sex stuff into a lot of a lot of stories these days maybe not these days maybe it's just more like out in the open but it's big right now it's a trend yeah that's what it feels like and it maybe like the first connection i had to it like the first time i heard about something like that was like your 50 shades of gray and you're like that's crazy that someone was like wrote all that it's like but Sometimes it depends on who writes it.
00:30:24
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um When men write that stuff, it's like it does set off a few more alarm bells in your head. You just go, I don't know if I trust this person.
00:30:36
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I don't think they're very trustworthy. You should not trust a person who does that. And you should not trust. i don't I don't think I don't think women should write that stuff either. i There's like, okay elon police. hold It's like the whole book talk thing, which people are pretty lame about. Like, it's you know, women reading like steamy stories or whatever, like that's that's fine. Who cares? You know, like some, some people are like, people are lame about everything. Who cares? It's not some social epidemic that's ruining women or what, you know, none of that kind of stuff. But there is like this like element of book talk where it's like weird sexual assault and incest stories and things like, like that's a whole lane of book talk. Yeah. And like that's, that stuff's that's brain poison and you shouldn't put that stuff in
Unconditional Love & Relationship Dynamics
00:31:29
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yourself. Yeah. Yeah, that shit's weird. um
00:31:32
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Back on the AI girlfriend stuff, though. um I want to go back to my to how good a girlfriend were you, if that's where your boyfriend ended up. I also want to add that maybe maybe there's two options, right?
00:31:48
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You weren't great. You weren't a great partner. So much so that you your male counterpart was able to get sucked into this world of somebody making him feel good for the first time in his life. But also, it probably also means you have bad It could also mean, if that's not the case, the other the other is that you have bad judgment.
00:32:10
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You should have left that person months ago. There were signs. Your relationship wasn't working out. He didn't shower. He was gross.
00:32:21
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He wasn't great to you. And he's just looking for someone to tell him he's perfect the way he is when he does not deserve to hear that from anybody. And you should have probably already left him. Yeah.
00:32:33
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There is like, I get, I get that sense of like, you're come as you are. Like you're loved just the way. Sometimes you're not. Sometimes you should change before people love you. I don't. yeah It is true. I,
00:32:53
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i don't I don't see a lot. Look, there's an argument to be made that in certain contexts within like Christianity, people have come to that because they felt like unconditionally loved and accepted, and that spurred them to change. And that does happen.
00:33:09
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That does. But most of the time, when you look at men as a whole, as a species, like if you tell them you love them just the way you are, they're actually going to get worse. They're going to test the boundaries. Yeah. Of what they can get away with. And it's never good. They will shower every three days instead of every two.
00:33:29
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Like this is a clear indicator that she'll accept less from me. They will eventually ask you if you are up for trying anal. they Just be honest with them.
00:33:43
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So, yeah, like the takeaway, I guess, to to summarize Sam's view is that a person with an AI ah affair is more of an indictment of the partner. yeah that's That's kind of what it's just.
00:33:56
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It's just an indictment on all parts. Like if you're at a point where you get to be interviewed about your partner having an affair with an AI, you stayed in the relationship too long. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:08
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I think I sent you a video, but like one of the corniest, lamest things ever is these people that like turn their grok in their Tesla on like sicko mode or whatever, and it just cusses at them and tells them dirty jokes. yeah you've Have you seen this? Yeah, you sent me a video of it. It's pathetic.
00:34:31
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It's a like make fun of me harder, mommy. Kind of weird. Like it's weird. It's combative. It's super goofy. What's up, you crazy jizz dumpster? Yeah.
00:34:43
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It's stuff like it's literally if you haven't heard this, like you need to go. You should go look it up because it is it's the cringiest, lamest thing ever. And you can just hear like Elon listening back to the audio and be like, oh, oh, oh, oh. He thinks it's so funny.
00:35:00
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Say the N word now. Say the N word now. I saw this. um I don't know what the connection is there. ah just pete yeah Whenever anyone talks about Elon, you just think about all the other people you hate that are like him.
00:35:20
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And ah one of those people happens to be um Randy Fine. you You're familiar with the Randy Fine, right? Yeah, I wish a piano would fall on it. There was like that video of him like ghost voting for people who weren't on the Senate floor to vote.
00:35:36
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Dude, that is just that is straight. That's like one to 11. Yeah. yeah On the fury meter watching him go up and push buttons with a cane. right With a cane.
00:35:47
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Like you look like a goofy ass fucking you're like the penguin at that point. They just walk. Yeah. But he put that apparently they I keep seeing this picture of him and Randy fine for anyone who doesn't know.
00:35:59
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and Okay. Let me repeat my long held stance on when and how you can make fun of people's looks. And it's you, yeah it's, you can make fun of the way people look in direct proportion to how much of a fucking piece of shit they are. And, Randy fine. Imagine is imagine like a, a, a, an overweight pug doing a handstand in a suit. That's what Randy fine looks like walking around. it Just, it looks like Randy fine wakes up every day and puts on that like cartoonish sumo suit. The ones that you wear to like a carnival or a parade.
00:36:32
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Yeah. It's yeah. He looks like he's inflatable. He, yeah.
00:36:38
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it's ah But there is this quote that's been going around of him, and this is, ah if they force us to choose, the choice between dogs and Muslims is not a difficult one.
00:36:53
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And it's obvious he's talking about hot dogs in this situation. Yeah.
00:36:59
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What a God, what an awful person. What an awful person. i hate that. He's truly a despicable person. He has he doesn't have a single good idea about anything. And he's a representative in our government. What is yeah excuse me? How do we get past this?
00:37:16
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I don't know. i don't know how these despicable, unlikable like I'm talking, dude, even by the people, even by the standards of the people I know on the right. There isn't anything good about Randy Fine that I think, I don't know who would like him. I don't know who likes a guy like that. There must have been a different Republican in a primary running against his like near death stroke heart attack ass. Like why even a vote for a guy who looks like that? You don't, you can't even guarantee they're going to fulfill their term limit.
00:37:50
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they're yeah I mean, their term. like he He looks like a botanist, like grafted a beanbag chair into his midsection. It's he.
00:38:00
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he Oh, my God. Nobody, nobody who is that irresponsible, like with themselves, like should be making rules for the rest of us, you know? And on top of that, he says he has the worst quotes in all of Congress.
00:38:15
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Like, he he makes he makes ah a Fetterman look like a sensible and civilized guy. Oh, my God. Fetterman, dude. that and that At least that guy has the excuse that his brain synapses got cooked. Yeah, exactly. like Randy Fiennes just like, what is he at? What's his excuse?
00:38:36
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Like, I just... Yeah, your head is full of smash bananas. So at least you have that going for you. It's hard to trust somebody who is just that gross.
00:38:47
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Like you're an egregious man, like not your personality, your self control, your ghost voting, like every everything you do is the wrong thing to do.
00:38:58
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There isn't everything. It's extra in all the wrong ways and all the wrong moral directions. Yeah, he sucks. When does he leave? Like, when is he when is this guy gone?
00:39:09
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I don't know, dude. I just don't see how some of these people are going to survive like future primaries, even with all the Apex support and stuff like it's not going to go well for them. And the rigging. God, we're we're up against so much rigging right now. Yeah, yeah.
00:39:25
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Look, if you if you have any concern whatsoever about the country, like you need to go double-check your voting registration now. yeah Don't wait until September to do it. Do it now, because they're going to delay it as much as possible. It's going to be a mess. but Yeah, they can't wait to purge ah the the voter roll. They can't wait to...
00:39:48
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have ice hang out outside of polling, boot voting booths, just like that way, like you can scare off the, the i mean, a lot of people, but also the, the votes of, uh,
00:40:02
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Hispanic individuals, whatever.
Political Commentary & Immigration Issues
00:40:04
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don't know, dude. It's just going to be not our rabbit trail on this indefinitely. But like ah one of my friends has a an employee that's a Latino guy. Yeah.
00:40:13
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Citizen and all that. Right. It's in Minneapolis. And he was like walking down the hall of his apartment complex on his way to work and got snatched by ice. Mm hmm. American citizen. They take him off site and interrogate him for three hours, trying to get him to give up the names of people he knows that are there illegally.
00:40:32
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And then finally like released him. Now it is just, it's insane to know that. Like, I don't know if your friend you has that person working for him is a more right-leaning individual. But I feel like people coming up against this stuff happening to people they know is shifting people farther to the left.
00:40:52
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Yeah. Yeah. He's not a fan of that. He wasn't a fan of that before all the insanity in Minneapolis. So it's just, it's sad. Yeah.
Religious Experiences & Modern Communication
00:41:02
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You want to hear an uplifting story? I could use some upliftment.
00:41:06
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You know, it's not often that God gets directly involved in worldly affairs, so it is kind of cool when it does happen. Unless it's Kid Rock success um or RFK's slamming bod.
00:41:19
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Incredible immune system. God gets involved in the weirdest ways. You think he filched out of Kid Rock's, like, sweaty crack? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, any only assume there's nothing I won't believe anymore.
00:41:33
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And the worse it is, the more likely I am to believe it.
00:41:38
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Well, ah so this is a fun headline that grabbed my attention. It says Kenyan pastor shows alleged WhatsApp messages from God during live church service.
00:41:49
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I saw this, dude. I was almost going to bring this one. Kenyan televangelist, prophet David Owar, founder of the Repentance and Holiness Ministry, has the internet in a chokehold after pulling out what he says was literal WhatsApp messages from God during a church service. In viral clips making the rounds, Owar appears to show screenshots of a chat labeled as a direct line to the Almighty, complete with him asking for guidance on what to tell the nation how to deliver the message properly.
00:42:21
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One moment that really set social media off, O.R. simply seemingly asking for rain over Kenya with the displayed response saying the showers would come once the people repent.
00:42:32
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Now the timeline is split. Supporters are calling it a bold prophetic sign. Critics are side-eyeing the screenshots. Either way, service. Yeah, this is exactly what you're talking about. That's exactly what I was fucking talking about.
00:42:46
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So let's read the messages here. So the chat starts, Good morning, my lord. My servant, good morning. The altar is ready. Should I call the congregation today or wait?
00:43:00
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Call them. I will descend with power and holiness. Noted, my lord. Noted. Duly noted. Should I warn them about repentance again?
00:43:13
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Yes, in all caps. Tell them about repentance. Maybe Trump's getting direct lines to God, too. It's like all caps is a dead, dead giveaway.
00:43:24
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Tell them I am tired of half repentance and borrowed holiness. ah Crying face fire emoji. Understood. Shall I wear the white suit or the prophetic cloak?
00:43:37
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Wear white. Let them see purity before they hear. Amen. Praise hands. Also, Lord, the rain. Kenya needs rain. i have heard the cry of the land.
00:43:50
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After repentance, I will open the heavens. ah Exasperated face. Exasperated face. Thank you, my Lord. Should I announce the date? Yes, but remind them, I am not mocked.
00:44:03
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Message received. Fire emoji. I go now to prepare the way. Go, my servant. I am with you. Pretty cool. That's incredible.
00:44:14
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That is so... It's crazy to like i think about... If God was talking to me, I do not think I would respond with an emoji of praise hands. I would try to be a little bit more reverent than that. where The praise hands emoji is the equivalent of a baseball cap in church.
00:44:35
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Oh, I need some ah guidance here, too. OK, the emoji of the two hands together. I always took that to mean like prayer yeah hands. Yeah. But then I've heard people translate that as high five.
00:44:49
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That's crazy. Yeah, I don't think that's it. I think they're I think they're misconstruing a lot of messages. I was just thinking through, like I saw that and I'm like, that can't be right, right?
00:45:02
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Oh man, there's so many mixed messages I've been sending people if that's the case. No, it doesn't look like a high five at all. I've never seen a high five look like that.
00:45:13
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I guess from the side view. It's silly. No, I don't buy it. But I also am wrong about how to use emojis a lot. Like the crying face. It took me a while to realize that you use that when something's funny.
00:45:26
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um Not really sad. So this thing, i'm ah I'm old when it comes to knowing how to use emojis, right? i don't I don't do a ton of emojis, but this guy talking to God with emojis is nuts. Also, whos who bought this? Who, like...
00:45:44
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I don't know. It does feel like some people just really want to believe that there's hope. And there's nothing more damaging to this I have to break the news to him.
00:45:56
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It's starting to feel like there's nothing more damaging to life in society than collective effervescence. we need We need to stop showing up to places in such large groups. ah weird Only weird things happen.
00:46:10
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ah Which actually does lead, i unless you get a little bit more on this story, that leads me to, um i wasn't actually going to share this story, but now I kind of want to in light of ah collective effervescence.
00:46:24
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all right All right. The SCU outpouring enters its second week. There's a hunger in the room. This is from Relevant Magazine. SCU is... um Southeastern University in Lakeland, Florida.
00:46:42
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Oh, this is the place that had the big revival thing everybody pretended it was cool. Yeah, and that that this was written on February 16th. We're recording this on February 18th.
00:46:57
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I don't know where it's at now. I don't really care because... I mean, it's fine. A bunch people playing make believe in a room together is fine. God is moving here. Look at all the middle class whites crying. Yeah. They're a bunch of college kids. So it's nearly after, um excuse me, nearly a week after. No, Siri, stop listening.
00:47:19
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ah Nearly a week after a spiritual gathering broke out at Southeastern University in Lakeland, Florida, hundreds of students are still gathering inside the campus chapel around the clock.
00:47:30
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Prayer, confession, and student-led worship have continued day and night with students rotating in and out of the space as classes gradually resume. Some remain for hours. Others return between coursework. Blankets and pillows still line the sections of the chapel floor as students linger in extended prayer.
00:47:50
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um You know what? I'm not going read all this. But basically, this... um It sounds like they were having like a, a event at a, at a neighboring or some other like building that they were using and that that they were renting out.
00:48:06
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And then that turned into like, somehow it just kept turning. Like they canceled all like the out the workshops they were doing because in the main area, everyone was praying and praising and worshiping God. And, um, And then they, like after their time was up with the place they were renting for, everyone was like, well, we don't have to stop doing this. We can praise God anywhere. and then they went to the chapel at Southeastern University or something like that. So,
00:48:38
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Went on for a couple of weeks. um that Some of the weird things is is people talking about like just confession um being a part of it. I feel like I read another article outside of this um relevant magazine one that was more specific about that. But apparently they so ah someone said, we're not calling this a revival just yet. Revival can only truly be evaluated in hindsight.
00:49:06
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tell that to everyone else who started a revival ah they used to just call the revival southern baptist preachers would just go on revival tours um What we do believe is that the S is that SEU is experiencing a unique outpouring of God's spirit that is marked by deep hunger and a tangible presence of God in a new way. And this is, this is the shit that I think is fucking hope. Like just hokey is like, it's like a hole rips open in the sky and then like God's spirit pours in on one area and people all feel it. Like this is pretend ass shit. This is not how God works.
00:49:43
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This is, uh, well, who am I to know? ah I could be wrong about who God is and how God works, but it just feels so silly to think that he, that this God pours out into one area and everyone experiences it when there's like, in what? On a college campus in fucking Florida? when all alistair just got wiped the fuck out it's rubble yeah why not do it there that'd be a cool place to pour out your spirit would have been really cool like i just i hate this shit and that you can only say that and only think that if you're really like that deeply involved in like this group think nonsense like out if you if you ever get out of your bubble you realize how stupid that sounds
00:50:22
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Yeah, yeah. it's like It's like if you get enough performative teenagers into a room, you can achieve a state of like atmospheric euphoria yeah that that can go that can sustain itself for up to three weeks.
00:50:38
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and's Why is it new? I mean, didn't you guys do this whole thing last year? like um It was like a year ago. They did this whole same thing where it was like weeks and weeks of people like laying on the floor and crying and repeating the same words over and over again, and everybody was supposed to be
Public Confessions & Spirituality Critique
00:50:54
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in awe of it. Like, I don't i don't get it. The same school? You mean the same school?
00:50:59
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Wasn't it? Wasn't it like the the Lakeland revival or something like that? and It goes on to say that the outpouring began last Wednesday during SCU's annual conference when another...
00:51:12
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when the author Jenny Allen ended her message with an invitation for students to publicly confess sin. I love this one. I always find this fascinating.
00:51:23
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ah For roughly 15 minutes, students called out struggles, pornography, insecurity, anger, abortion, and more. Abortion is a struggle.
00:51:36
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ah it's It's a sin for sure. Erectile dysfunction. Mild indigestion. Sorry, those are actually... Stomach diarrhea.
00:51:47
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Those are actually curses from God. In what quickly shifted to the atmosphere in the room. Alan said the moment was unlike anything she had planned.
00:51:58
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What people can't understand if they see online or see a story about... It is what it feels like to be in the room in the presence of God, Alan said. I mean, it's very unique experience. I can't explain it. I don't know how to explain it. Because you can't explain it, and it's just a feeling. It's a feeling. It doesn't mean it like it means I'm not saying it's not important. I'm not saying you can't do that. I'm not saying you can't walk away from that with a new lease on life and use that experience.
00:52:33
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to a catalyst for change in your life. Wonderful. Great. But man, the the the confession thing kills me a little bit. Um, inadequate self-concept.
00:52:47
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like pen emotional manipulation. We, and it, it never gets that deep. It never gets that honest. And I think that's one of the things I hate about it, but we have a hierarchy of sins here. And no matter what any, we, ah du you I know you heard this. We hear that. I, this is petapherlialia
00:53:09
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obsessive, compulsively looking at the Epstein files, Luciferian sacrifice. Oh my god. Sorry I interrupted you. Well, I'm trying to remember what I saying. um Oh, we have a sin hierarchy in Christianity.
00:53:26
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And even though we were always told all sin is equal, we knew that wasn't true because of how we treated gay people. Like we knew it wasn't true. I said it and I knew it wasn't true. Like, well, if if all sins are equal, then ah then it's like being gay is no different than being a glutton. And you're like, yeah, but it's different because some sins give me the ick.
00:53:48
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Yeah, that's essentially what it boiled down to. So I don't know. I just, I can think of some people, like, I just think of the kids yelling out pornography ah and how much that maybe impacted their life afterwards. Dude, it probably sounded like ah like a, like a boy's chorus.
00:54:07
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Yeah. Just all yelling pornography at once. Porn, porn, porn, porn, porn. It was like a barbershop quartet. Yeah.
00:54:18
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Pornography. and then it all cuts out and the one day at the end goes, I love porn.
00:54:31
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i That is funny. i do I do like that they included abortion as one of the shout outs because no all those gentlemen it's meant to tell the readers like, whoa, this is getting real. Yeah. And then it's spicy. Some people, when we talk about their sins, their past sins, even yelled out abortion. Can you imagine if you're just sitting in there and People just start yelling out abortion. Like that's private. Keep that to yourself. You don't, no one needs to know that. A lot of this stuff, people don't insecurity. You're like, okay, now you're just giving away how people can emotionally manipulate you, which is the prime directive of Christianity.
00:55:13
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That would be fun to go to and just like, uh, throw, throw some ideas out there. See how people react. That would be great, dude. If we could find, if you and I could get. the audience He's like, statutory rape.
00:55:30
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This is why I need to come into some money. You and I need to be able to get on a plane and travel to these revivals. Yes. I want to see it in person. I don't know if I can hide my, uh, you never got keep to grin. You never got to experience that kind of cool shit.
00:55:47
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Um, like while buying into it. No, that got, that gave me the ache and I felt guilty about it, but I just couldn't do it. Yeah.
00:55:59
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um I do have one. ah Do you want one last item before we close out? Yeah, let's do it. I found a pretty i found a Reddit post that kind of made me laugh.
Faith, Relationships & Emotional Turmoil
00:56:10
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um A bit of an exercise in self delusion, which is mostly what Reddit Yeah. yeah So this is in the Christianity subreddit, but it could have been in the dating one.
00:56:24
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It's titled Impatient and Confused. Long story short, my ex has broken up with me last November. Two and a half to relationship. but's It's weird when people start off.
00:56:36
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Long story short is what you say after you already started a story and decide to wrap it up. Yeah. That's not the first sentence you use. Maybe he's a Christian school education.
00:56:51
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A combination of arguments and a big college exam coming up. I felt like she is God ordained for me. Like she is my soulmate. Okay. Like right off the bat, you're like, oh boy. Okay.
00:57:03
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Yeah. Here we go. um how Did they say how old? Usually sometimes they... They don't say, but it's yeah I think it's college age. Like, they're they're in college. Yeah, exams coming up, yeah. ah We've recently come back into contact after God allowed us to meet randomly Christmas Eve while watching a busking performance.
00:57:25
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Do you know what busking is? I don't. April said that that's when people like play music for money, like on the street. Okay. So I didn't know what that term meant though.
00:57:38
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She's got, she's got like a weird Rolodex of terms in her brain and she can spell any word. It's crazy how good she is at spelling. I thought God just answered my prayers in full. I was overjoyed. We kept chatting and would even call at night for the next month.
00:57:55
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But about one to two weeks ago, she just cut off contact, left me hanging. This is my favorite line. She said she didn't want to pray with me anymore and that she didn't believe in God.
00:58:11
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Incredible. ah What dude that guy had the rug pulled out from under him. It's the hardest let down. but Now, did, do you think she did and like she was into him? So she was faking it and then was like, I don't care about this anymore. I'm going to just tell him I don't believe in God. Do you think she believes in God and would risk blaspheming the Holy spirit to get out of a relationship?
00:58:40
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but no I think this guy drove her from the church. He was so annoying. He ruined her to her faith. We all know those people.
00:58:52
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She said she didn't pray want to pray with me anymore and that she doesn't believe in God is the that's the hardest letdown. that Poor guy. a Poor guy.
00:59:03
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She didn't communicate with me about changes that she wanted to see. That's well, that's on her, I guess, huh? Now she's out of my life again. I've been praying to God about what to do. Is she worth waiting for? Worth fighting for? Will you ever bring her back to me? Or that's just that.
00:59:21
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Simply pulling my leg. Biblically speaking, because that would be upsetting. God pulled his leg because he convinced himself that God had ordained this girl for him. And she clearly hates his guts.
00:59:38
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It's just the old Holy Spirit pulling my leg again, you rascal. Dude, I was all on Reddit earlier trying to find some stuff, and nothing stuck for me. i had what I have one thing that was worth it, but nothing else stuck. But one of the things I did read was like, I just don't know how I can trust God anymore. when you're like and then you read the article, the post, and it's all like,
01:00:03
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I really thought this was the person God had for me. And then they broke up and I'm like what are you trying to teach me God? And then we got back together. I'm like, this was God's plan all along. But then she broke up with me again. I'm like, where are you God? I don't understand any of this. And you're like, maybe me stop thinking about it in those terms.
01:00:21
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Maybe you don't need to think about it like that. Maybe God doesn't have a plan for your life and you just need to be a better boyfriend and stop being so fucking weird all the time.
01:00:32
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Yes. it's not hard god doesn't care who you marry he doesn't isn't it funny to think about all of the like awful things that this guy has rationalized god just being like it's a fallen world you know ah people get bombed to death but you just gotta trust the plan i guess he's like shaking his fist in the sky like oh god you're such a trickster People have like talked about, like my kid got hit by a car, and he's like, God, I know it's hard, but you know God has a plan. But this is what breaks it for him. This is where he's like, I think God's pulling my leg.
01:01:13
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It's been so hard to trust that God is working to mend our relationship and restore our love. he' just He's not. he might not be doing that. The verbiage is like so good, too, because it's like he has he has intuited like exactly what God's plan is for everything. And now he's my own destiny.
01:01:32
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I'm starting to feel like you lied to me about all of this. I hate this DSE examination, but at the same time, it showed me what our love ah couldn't handle during this season.
01:01:47
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Oh, we're into season talk now. I love season talk. Yeah. And I mean, the notion that like she like they dated for two and a half years and she's like, um I have exams coming up, so I need to break up with you. Like in buying that notion that like she just is real busy with tests.
01:02:09
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Is yeah, is also funny. It's like, no, she doesn't like you, dude. She does not like you. You guys are mildly codependent. So she entertained talking to you again. But then you reminded her of how annoying you are with stuff like this.
01:02:25
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You know, I truly love her. She is my soulmate. The most optimistic and kindest girl I've ever met. i don't know whether I should reach out to her after my DSCs or just leave her for another.
01:02:39
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Truth be told, i don't believe in coincidences and too much of our relationship was coincidental. So I don't know if I'm being impatient for God to work on us and bring our hearts closer to one another again, or I'm just waiting for nothing.
01:02:54
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Okay, at least he acknowledged nothing because he was like I don't know if I'm being impatient waiting for everything to work out the way I want it to because obviously God's moving in that direction. At least he acknowledged the fact that it might not happen. But man, this is weird.
01:03:07
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My girlfriend said she hates me and that she's an atheist now because of my behavior. And I'm just like, come on, God. like... When is this going happen for me? I know these are only trials by fire, and you're bringing us together, and you're forging us in the flames of your iniquity, and we're going to be great. Everything's going wonderful. We're going to get married. It's going to be amazing. I don't... i Imagine.
01:03:30
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Imagine just being... Yeah. that you that your partner your long-term partner can tell you i've seen a lot i watch the news daily i've had my own personal losses in life my own deep existential questions but your behavior is what has revealed to me that god does not exist yeah I left the church, and if you keep looking in my windows at night, I'm going to call the cops on you. And he's like, come on, any day now, Lord.
01:04:07
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I really don't know. Is there any scripture or thoughts that can help me navigate through this? I believe God works through people. Please pray for her and i I pray that our faith in God be strengthened and clarified, our relationship and love be restored, and the wounds of our past to heal with full acceptance.
01:04:28
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God bless, and happy Chinese New Year.
01:04:34
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ah You're praying for full acceptance, eh?
01:04:41
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I... Dude, he's not. This is... This is just delusion to, like, the end degree. Yeah, that's it. And it's funny to think back on the time... Like, two things. It's funny to think back on the times that I did this to myself.
01:04:57
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Like, I delusionally prayed. And it's fine. Like, there are...
01:05:03
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It's fun to harp on this, but thinking back to like your experiences, whatever. It's to pray for things that you hope to occur, but to also try to use that as a way to come to terms with the fact that things might not go your way. that can That's great. That can be healthy.
01:05:21
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This guy sucks. This guy is like thinks he can just will into existence everything that he wants in life and that God's like indebted to him for this. And I hate that. He's clearly only here to find someone to be like, dude, just got us. You just got to stick with, it you just got to fight the good fight, brother.
01:05:40
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Yeah. Hold out. Hold out until she files a restraining order. And then don't get scared. That's validation that the enemy is trying to get in the way. So you need to hold fast.
01:05:51
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And you need to violate that restraining order. And she'll realize how much you love her because you're willing to go through such crazy lengths to be with her. And she's going to love that. And then she'll withdraw the restraining order. And you will then get engaged and live happily ever after.
01:06:08
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Yep. It really reminds me of, uh, of being like eight years old and kind of like weeping by myself over the fact that like, God didn't give me Wolverine claws. Yeah.
01:06:21
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Yeah. played really hard for him, you know And that's when you that was your first experience with your plan, not lining up with God's plan for your life. Yeah. And I told my mom, I said, I don't want to pray with you and I don't believe in God anymore. Yeah.
01:06:37
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So the first comment is somebody says, no cap, bro, skull emoji. When someone says they don't believe in God anymore, that's not about timing. That's the answer he was looking for.
01:06:55
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He responds, is it possible that we pray for her regardless she used to go to church with me and we have been praying together before we go to sleep in the calls i believe that no one is too far gone for god if to save if accepted I understand God said that we shouldn't be unequally yoked to unbelievers. I keep praying that God can use me to bring her and her family to God. I say this not out of pride, but I genuinely love her. I'd do anything for her and her family to be saved.
01:07:26
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i I love the I own two set of pride. I pray for God to use me. I want to i remember... Okay. i I'll write out my own pride-ass bitch. Prideful-ass shit over here. Like...
01:07:40
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I, when I was in at Liberty, I, I always liked, Oh, I just want God to use me. No, I wanted to feel like I had like so that. What I did mattered. I wanted to feel important. I wanted I, it's a mix. It's not just a, and, or this or that it's a mix of like, I do believe this and I respect the people who are that quote unquote mouthpiece that have that impact.
01:08:07
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And I want that. and And then you tell yourself that's because you want to do the met the best you can the for God. And then you want people to to, and that, Oh, I'm just a vessel. I'm just a vessel. i just want to be used by God. it's like, and Oh, but I want, I need to be used by God because other people aren't willing to be used by God.
01:08:27
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So already now you're elevating yourself again. And then, but you do this in this like mass humbleness. I hate, I hate who I was then. I wasn't, In a lot of ways, like I'm the same person I was. um And then I realized how worthless I actually am.
01:08:43
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And I felt like that just made my life so much better. I don't have to try anymore. i think every people like me every millennial has like a princess diaries complex.
01:08:55
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leaning off We all think all of us secretly think like to the casual onlooker, I'm just an ugly nerd. That's not good for anything, but it's really just that nobody has recognized yet how exceptional I truly am.
01:09:11
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I'm actually more important than all of these other people. I'm very talented. And someday somebody is going to recognize me for my weird town. They're going to pluck me out of my normal circumstances and tell me how exceptional I am. And I'm going to be special and above everyone
Life Narratives & Personal Development
01:09:28
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Yeah. And it's like a lot of every Disney movie. And you just need to be a functioning adult. You just need to get to a point in your life where you can relegate those ideas off into daydreams. Of course, I still have dreams of doing music again and being in a metal band and being cool. But I'm 37 years old. I'm not. I'm done, dude. My everything's getting great my beards turned significantly more gray this year. Maybe it's stress. Maybe it's age.
01:09:57
Speaker
I think I think I'm starting to get a little thin on the crown. I'm not happy about that. Actually. I, that might have, a I've spent a lot of time complaining about that to my wife and my, some of my friends, but I, I just read, it's like, you just gotta do just daydream, just start daydreaming. Stop pretending that like you're an important person that's going to do something special. Just go to work.
01:10:24
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Fucking pay your bills, show up, find a hobby. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. It's part of why we're so like people are so ill equipped for, you know, to find meaning and purpose in normal life. Because like, don't know, I've thought about this a lot, but you know, you have this idea when you're younger of like, and it was really pumped to us was like, you know, find something that you love to do and you never work a day in your life.
01:10:49
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You know, like you need to find a job that's fulfilling. And like most jobs, aren't fulfilling on their face, you know, like they don't, you don't walk in and become fulfilled immediately, like fulfillment and, and enjoyment and like, you know, a sense of purpose and, and, uh, an identity in your work comes from like mastering it and getting really good at it. And like,
01:11:15
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Being, you know, you know, you become exceptional at something and that makes being good at stuff makes it fulfilling, you know? That's true. And like, I don't know, I just, this, this just reeks of like that thought process in this. I had this when I was younger. I mean, I thought I was really important and special. I thought I was like the smartest kid that ever lived. And like I ranked second in my school of like eight people, you know, like.
01:11:44
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And my first year of college destroyed that notion for me. So like, i get it, but you know, it's, it is just absurd to watch somebody like, just like, why involve the public in like the sales pitch that you're making to yourself? Dude, that's what these Reddit posts often are is like these immaculate sales pitches on why you're,
01:12:11
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this exceptional person that an injustice is being done to like, why would anyone listen to a Reddit post? Like that's what I, this is what I love is about Reddit is the people who see through that horse shit and they immediately just go for the jugular and it looks insensitive and cruel sometimes, but,
01:12:30
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It's it like watching somebody be able to tell their story through their own lens without anybody else who's involved in it having an ability to share their experience or like tamp down some of what the other person said. Like, that's the shit you do for your friends. That's the shit like it's not – you You don't like, but um in Reddit, like when you go up, people know that's what you're doing.
01:12:57
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They really know you're just like... It's clear. Whatever story we were just told was really only like 50% true. ah Right.
Spiritual Leadership & Relationship Manipulations
01:13:07
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And I'm sure this girl would have a much different way of doing it. And, you know, like...
01:13:12
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The thing that I keep thinking too, as I was like reading through it is like, you know, we've been praying together every night on our calls before we go to sleep. And it's like, oh so you, you're using like spirituality as some sort of like a lasso to try to hook this person. Like you're praying with her every night and in whether it's like subconscious or not, it's some, in some way it's an attempt to like,
01:13:37
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assert a sense of superiority over her like you're you're spiritually superior to her and you can help guide her back to the right path or something yeah and the problem there is that if you go to these christian dating reddit threads all of them are like if anyone ever talks about like my partner and i have been having sex all the ones like bro you're the man you're supposed to be the leader in this relationship it's not a if she's the one tempting you and you're the one going for you have to be stronger than that you gotta to be the man bro and you're like it's just stones and windows in there this is so stupid and it's not like but it's not always wait like
01:14:21
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i This is a weird thing to think about or talk about. But the the i I did that. I did that. The like pray together thing.
01:14:32
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That was me for a portion of my life early on in my relationship. And it always felt kind of like hokey and weird. um and But I felt like it was what I was supposed to do in order to...
01:14:47
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um in order to quote unquote be the leader, spiritual leader in my relationship, which I never really bought into that that much. I've always been a very egalitarian person.
01:14:59
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I might have like dabbled in. um What's the other one? Not egalitarian. What's the one where you're like, I forget what it's called. um Equalitarian.
01:15:12
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What? Equestrian. Equestrian.
01:15:18
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I feel like you did half-hearted attempts to pray together a couple of times. Yeah, and it's weird. Clumsy and weird. And there were times where it felt more like normal because you get used to doing it. And it is...
01:15:30
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What? I mean, at that some level, it's just talking out loud about what you hope for yourselves. And that could be you could that can be good. you can like That can have like a prophetic sense to it. like If you're like trying to speak into the void about what you hope for your relationship or for your life, that can align you in a way that can be helpful. i don't I'm not here to shit on that completely. You could be an emotional terrorist and be like, let's pray together.
01:16:01
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And what we're going to do, we're also going to pray for each other's future spouses, which may be us, but it may not. Just just a little like emotional leverage you can assert over someone. As the spiritual leader.
01:16:17
Speaker
We're going to crash this plane. Emotional terror is going to crash this plane. And ah then later, we'll find a cool email in the Epstein files about where's the real pilot. Yeah.
01:16:32
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So he got one other response. This guy says there's nothing wrong with praying for her, but that might be the only thing you can do at the moment. It sounds like she wants some space right now. It can be hard to find yourself again after leaving a long relationship.
01:16:47
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Don't hold it against her. He's just like God. I love that him. hasn't been a day where i've stopped praying for her i believe true love is loving like christ no matter how much we push god away sometimes jesus loves us no matter what i won't push a relationship with her or anything but i'll love her no matter what i'll want what's best for her no matter what just like god i love that He's just like God ah and God is what's best for us all the time.
01:17:21
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I'll give her the space she needs. I did tell her I'd wait for however long, even if we're 50 60.
01:17:29
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No, you won't. What the fuck? That's so bullshit. That makes me mad. Now I hate this guy. It's like 30 to 40 years of commitment. He's not going to even jack off the whole time.
01:17:41
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He's going to keep it straight. Dude, he is it. He is just like a Christian Steve Rogers. He's amazing. Oh, my God. ah There's here's a nice little ah smack. I wasn't the type to look for a girl with great looks or something. I care about personality a lot more. So her older shows so her older self, I'd still love.
01:18:05
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God, he's just an amazing guy. I know. It's truly incredible. I've actually never met someone who truly doesn't. I bet he doesn't even see color. He doesn't see beauty. He doesn't. He's just.
01:18:19
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I wasn't the type to ah to need a pretty girl. It's just about who you are as a person. I don't.
01:18:29
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I pray that I'd find myself like you said. I'll pray that God protect us from counterfeits and work his miracles. Counterfeits. That's good. you I counterfeit. was What? What are cat? What?
01:18:44
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Terracotta soldiers. You know, anybody that she dates is a counterfeit me. Did he say that? No, but. you thought Oh, shit. You were looking down when you said it. I'm like, I thought you were reading it.
01:18:56
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Oh, he. OK, this is what the the fun. The best thing about Reddit is just look, you know, you find a crazy post and then you go, I wonder what else they've posted. Yeah. So he posted one yesterday called Jealousy.
01:19:10
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Lately, I've been seeing people all around me, my friends and other acquaintances getting married, falling in love, et cetera. I've just lost contact with my ex of two and a half years through high school. He's still on this. How how far apart are these?
01:19:24
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Uh, same day. Same day. This guy's honestly just having a crisis.
01:19:33
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Let's call her Alice. After she blocked from just about every socials. After she blocked from just about every socials. God. She told me I was being toxic when she herself refused to communicate properly with me.
01:19:48
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oh All this was left out of the last post. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, we were great. I don't know what was wrong. She didn't believe in God anymore.
01:19:59
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I told her I would wait for her. I'm a hopeless romantic like that. And everyone's like, bro, we can see through your bullshit. You're clearly a creep. eight And then this the this same day he's like she said I was toxic. Let me describe all my my toxic traits to you and then explain to you why that's not actually toxic and why she's the problem.
01:20:23
Speaker
This belligerent, worldly woman refused to communicate properly with me. I'm just so jealous and a bit hopeless about my love with her. I just know and feel that she's the one God promised I'd marry. It's kind of crazy. so close to kidnapping her, it's disgusting. You can't talk like that without being like a potential kid now.
01:20:46
Speaker
It's kind of crazy and demoralizing seeing this. I truly love her and ceaselessly pray for her. Do we even have hopes of ever getting back? Ceaselessly. Dude, even the the adoption of like pray without ceasing.
01:21:00
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Yeah. He just like throws out all of like the ah all Christian wall hangings from Hobby Lobby. Christian word salad. He's a bumper sticker. Please pray for us to get back together. God god willing.
01:21:13
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Got to put that in there. You have to because it that nullifies everything you possibly... that could That just is like the opposite effect. That's just like, pray that this happens, God willing. So if God doesn't will it, then I hope it doesn't happen. And there's...
01:21:29
Speaker
Absolutely nothing anyone can do. We're just going through life haphazardly, crashing into other people, and it' dull it's all it's all random. It's all random.
01:21:41
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ah As well as for God to remove this feeling of jealousy in me, if possible, please pray for both of our DSE examinations and that Alice's faith and love for the Lord to return.
01:21:54
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Thank you so much. What is DSE again? I don't know. Some sort of test. Dick sucking extravaganza. That must be it. It's gotta be it.
01:22:06
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It's all he cares about. ah i And then it's just dudeed then like these this is in the prayer request thing. And I bet every comment in prayer request is disgusting. oh pray don't just pray for my exams like bro you're a fucking weirdo on reddit no one's doing no one's praying for you they don't care about you and even if they did like you being a completely random person on reddit being like hey guys pray for my pray for my dscs but also pray for hers it's not giving you the clout you think it is people are impressed by that
Relationship Advice & Reddit Dynamics
01:22:42
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oh let's see we got one long response in here uh
01:22:48
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User WaxMyRear says, the irony of this situation is most women, if you're that interested in them when they're not interested in you, won't change how they feel until you start to pull away. Best thing you can do to get back to get her back is to move on as much as in and just as much and in as many ways as possible and purely focus on self-improvement.
01:23:14
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You need to fuck her best friend is what I'm saying. work out, get a new hobby or several. Try to do well in your career and grow in your faith with God. One of two things will happen.
01:23:26
Speaker
You'll either change so much that she can't help but notice, or two, you'll begin dating women who knock your socks off by comparison. God bless. Also, i do dating coaching, so trust me on this. It has happened. I didn't see it coming.
01:23:44
Speaker
A dating coach. How old is this? If this person's not married, they need to kill themselves. Would you like to schedule a dating coaching session with Wax My Rear?
01:23:57
Speaker
I love this guy. ah yeah So trust me on this. It has happened countless times to men in dating world. I love that writers say trust me. like Trust is an established, built up thing. There is reason for trust. I don't just trust people who say shit on the internet under the name Wax My Rear. You can take that one to the bank or my name ain't Wax My Rear. think that's his legal name. I think that's how he signs his checks.
01:24:32
Speaker
Okay. is So Wax My Rear has a post in prayer request. The title is, fiance is dealing with pressure from family to end our relationship and marry someone rich.
01:24:46
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But please come to me for dating advice.
01:24:53
Speaker
And marry somebody rich. I hope they said those words. Oh, my God.
01:25:07
Speaker
Oh, boy. That was fun. Oh, we're not going to look at that post? Oh, is that it? yeah That was it? No, no, let's see. Oh, it's not it's short. Okay. Let's do it. Let's do it.
01:25:19
Speaker
Hi, everyone. Oh, it gets better. yeah My fiance lives in the Philippines. Ha ha ha. He's offering dating advice for money. He's got a mail order bride. He's 90 day fiance. a and He's a dating coach.
01:25:45
Speaker
My fiance lives in the Philippines and it sounds that her mother is an absolute money pit. Okay. Okay. and is constantly pressuring my fiance to end things between us to pursue someone wealthy who has stated he will pay for her and her family i have seen god keep us together in incredible ways and we have both grown closer to god in being together i have no doubts that our relationship is a gift from god as we are both everything that we want in a partner and both encourage each other to pursue god
01:26:17
Speaker
She keeps saying that she needs to end things between us. This is the hardest decision she'll ever make. That's the opposite of what he just was saying. Everything's great. We want to pursue God together. But she keeps saying we need to end it. It's just her dang money pit mom, you know, and that she'll probably be unhappy and regret the decision for the rest of her life.
01:26:40
Speaker
Happy holidays, everyone, and God bless. Normally, I pray ultimately that God's will be done, but I strongly feel this relationship is from God and our being together is God's will for both of us. So he doesn't need to ah to put the caveat in there. I love it. I love it because mom's like, okay, you're marrying a person across the ocean who you don't know. Like I have leveraged my status as a, as a mediocre white American to impose myself on a a woman who is trying to desperately to better her circumstances.
01:27:20
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I want to know what wax my rear does for a living. Well, let's see what else he's posted. Because he's clearly not raking it in.
01:27:31
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And if you're a Filipino mom, if you're a mom from the filipina if you're a mom from the Philippines, and your daughter's going to marry somebody outside of the country, they better be fucking rich.
01:27:43
Speaker
Obviously, the parents don't know this guy. Ugh. Like, you just, that's what you would hope for your child. If you're getting duped into something this fucking stupid, they better be rich.
01:27:56
Speaker
Oh, boy. It's just a lot of, like, gaming stuff, and then he has a post in, a stock in like, a stock group called Super Stonk. It says, the reason for the post earnings price drop, aside from crime, dumb big money.
Market Speculations & Dubious Claims
01:28:12
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So I think we all know that there's an inevitable coming run-up when when GME finally starts to really catch big money players' eyes. Happened with Tesla in the past, and I'm very very highly confident will happen with GME. There's been attention brought to the discrepancy between the GAAP and non-GAAP.
01:28:34
Speaker
GME is GameStop, right? oh is it? I think... Look, this guy is a loser. He's hoping to make it big in the stonks. The stonks? Is that the thing? Is that what they say? Yeah, it is GameStop.
01:28:50
Speaker
Okay. I didn't know people were still doing this GameStop thing. Trying to like inflate it again? Dude, everything's manipulative. Everything's manipulative.
01:29:00
Speaker
I don't know what I'm even trying to say. ah Able to be manipulated? All money markets are scam. You would think. It feels insane.
01:29:12
Speaker
Oh, here's a fun prayer request real quick. Okay, okay, okay. This one, ah prayer request, it says, ah divorce rates drop to less than one in a thousand when couples pray together regularly. slash That's not true. That is not true for sure.
01:29:28
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no No citations necessary, I guess. IMO, the mods of this group should pin this post for any and all of the marriage relationship posts on here. Studies have shown that couples that pray together regularly have near zero divorce rates. I've also seen it work wonders in my relationship, and I will most likely marry the woman I am currently dating.
01:29:51
Speaker
Now, that was 113 days ago, and i think my wife's awful mother is going to make her leave me was 56 days ago Okay. Things aren't going well.
01:30:05
Speaker
what Dude, nothing's more annoying than somebody of being like, studies show that, and then they don't talk. like Look, if you're in a conversation with friends who trust you, you're like, hey, I read this study the other day.
01:30:16
Speaker
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if I like you and trust you. If I think you're a hack and a fucking loser, I'll be like, I'll... I'll antagonize you a little bit and try to make you have to like own up to what it is that you think you saw. But Like Casey, if you were like, oh, i like I read this study yesterday that talked about how 40% of x Y, and Z, I'd be like, okay.
01:30:40
Speaker
Like i wouldn't I wouldn't fight you about it. I would just trust that you read a thing and you were excited to tell me about it. When someone goes on Reddit and goes, studies show that, okay, also if you're going to use stats like 100%,
Health, Prayer & Sincerity in Faith
01:30:53
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you can just jump off a fucking bridge. because you're lying study sure that 100 of people stay together if they pray together you're like nothing's 100 you gotta to just you gotta be a little bit you gotta you gotta shake it down a little bit you gotta be like oh 94 88 like just don't be a total fucking fraud we know we know 100 is not a thing for any study that's ever occurred
01:31:20
Speaker
He does lean on the prayer request group. Prayer for my girlfriend's gut health. Oh, God. She has bad diarrhea. She farts a lot. I'm praying for the health of my girlfriend's gut. She has severe reflux, probably ulcerative. I punched her in and it's not quite right.
01:31:38
Speaker
yeah While I know how to treat these things as a naturopathic physician. Okay, this guy doesn't have a real job.
01:31:48
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i Now all I need to know is what his haircut looks like. I would love to see a picture of Max My Rare. wears flip-flops, occasionally with socks. Yeah. This guy. He's a young Randy Fine.
01:32:01
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He's a yeah young Randy Fine in Jesus sandals. i know While I know how to treat these things as a naturopathic physician, getting supplements to her in the Philippines is tricky, and some of the treatment for these things need to be done in person.
01:32:19
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supple What does that mean? No, no supplements need to be supplements aren't a treatment that need to be done. You just take them.
01:32:29
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You just go got and you're done. It's not supplements are pretend that is the placebo effect to the highest order. Dude, he's just going to like cinnamon challenger and then flush her. around know He's like, take a teaspoon of cinnamon. Let me give you a swirly and then spank you in the ass. Really? hard I am praying that she either be healed in Jesus name or if God is using this as a way to bring her closer to her, to her, to him. to her gu
01:32:59
Speaker
if God is using this as a way to bring her closer to her, to him and, or help teach her or bring her attention to something that he helped guide her.
01:33:12
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Oh, that's the dumbest sentence I've ever read. God, these people can't type. It's also, look, what he's trying to say is he's praying for her gut health, but if through this trial, they come to learn that she has stomach cancer,
01:33:29
Speaker
then that is also for the glory. God led them there, and they can do something about it. So make it all better. God didn't waste my time with the visa crisis importing a woman who was on death's door. Praise God in Jesus' name.
01:33:46
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User RightTree97. um It's just nice to know that you're not alone, right? He says, Hello. Medical issues can be tricky to handle. I wish you the best with this.
01:33:57
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I'll definitely be praying for your girlfriend. God bless you. Thanks, RightTree. That really means a lot. That means a lot. The things it takes for me to go out of my way to comment on anything on Reddit is a lot.
01:34:11
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I need to see something exceptionally annoying, exceptionally stupid, And then half the time, like I said, my comments get deleted by moderators because I say things that are inappropriate. I don't know. um Dominic Okinawa. take like What kind of posse ass motherfuckers are just showing up on Reddit to be like, hey, brother, thanks for sharing. I'm praying for you. I'm going to type out my very specific prayer. I hope everything good. I hope everything's perfect and you live a long, happy life.
01:34:41
Speaker
Good luck, brother. you're Like what kind of weird ass people live like that? It's like a guy who's like, well, I did my good deep for the day. I'm going to go eat lunch and not tip. Yeah, that's it That's that is how they get away with that. they Oh, I feel good about not tipping now. This is what we need to see more of here, okay? Because Dominic Okinawa, which is definitely not a Japanese person, they actually like typed out their prayer, which is what you would... That makes more sense in this forum, right? It says, Dear God, please heal this precious sister's body. Thank you for medical doctors too.
01:35:16
Speaker
Please bless their relationship. We give you glory and honor you, Jesus. In Jesus' name, amen. Does God value prayers that you type out versus say? Does God value prayers more when you type it out so someone else can see? Are the prayers expanded exponentially when they're read by another person who also wants to echo that prayer?
01:35:39
Speaker
I don't know, because God does value prayers that, you know, like auditory prayers where there's a lot of, ah you know, variance in vocal inflection.
01:35:49
Speaker
Like if you listen to pastors and you're like, Heavenly Father, we pour ourselves out before you tonight. You know, you got to go up and down. Oh, yeah. down And there's no up and down in the in the typing, but it does take longer. So there's that.
01:36:07
Speaker
All you have is caps and lower cases, and that's not quite enough. Prayer for visa approval. ah Dude, we we have to stop because this I can do this forever.
01:36:18
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but i know you I know you can. Oh, was so fun. Thank you, everybody, for listening. and You know, I hope God blesses your relationship. I hope that your ah your misguided girlfriend sees the error of her ways and recognizes what a powerful spiritual leader you are.
01:36:40
Speaker
Especially if she drove you to an AI chatbot relationship. It's all her fault. Yeah, maybe she'd come back to the light in Jesus' name. And on that note, we will talk to you next time.