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Ep. 257 – The Glorious Grifters of 2025 w/ Christian Nightmares image

Ep. 257 – The Glorious Grifters of 2025 w/ Christian Nightmares

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Hark the herald, Christian Nightmares is back! It’s been a few years since we last talked to the premier purveyor of Christian cringe, and does he have a treat for all of us… In this episode, we’ll be examining his list of the top 5 halleluiah hucksters of the year! There are a lot of familiar faces in the mix, but we sprinkle in a couple of oddities, too. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did, and if you’re interested in hearing more from Christian Nightmares, you can follow his Substack where he writes more in-depth articles about events, support him on Patreon, and of course, follow one of the best accounts on IG, @christian_nightmares!

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Introduction and Excitement

00:00:00
Speaker
For the record! i feel like i just snorted cocaine or something i'm so excited and i never did that before for the record ah weapon on the record i justla my head
00:00:18
Speaker
Dude, steroid-addled brain panic. Yeah, you hear the panic in his voice. Like, like what the fuck did I just say? Like he just called J.D. Vance an assassin.

Guest Introduction: Christian Nightmares

00:00:51
Speaker
Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And today we are joined, once again, long time coming, by our old pal Christian Nightmares. What's going on, man?
00:01:07
Speaker
ah Not too much. And I guess everything at the same time. Yeah. i know how How's hell, dude? We're all living in it We talk about it every week. How are you keeping yourself sane if you are at this time in this crazy fucked up world?
00:01:24
Speaker
I don't know if I am keeping myself sane. i I am just trying to deal with it the best I can. i mean, my daughter makes me happy. She's four and a half years old. So that that helps a little bit.
00:01:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's less than the sting a little bit. Yeah. But um I've I'm kind of I think what helps me in a weird way is is kind of diving into this stuff head first, you know, is just it's kind of as frustrating and frustrating and scary as it is. It's kind of cathartic still. And I feel like I have to respond to it in some way or else I'll implode. So. This is kind of like you've trained yourself for this moment. Like this is your world series right now.
00:02:03
Speaker
It's a four-year world series, if we're lucky.

Struggles with Sanity and News Overload

00:02:06
Speaker
Yeah. The hardest part now is like everything so we Casey and talk about this all the time. We're like you kind of just do the doom scroll. You just and you're like, i don' why do I keep why do I listen to this every day on my ride home from work, on my way to work? Why do i like just keep this constantly on in my life, feeling like I need to know everything? But then So that's like the bad part. But then we get on and we talk about it and we make fun. That's the cathartic part. yeah So some of it feels like research, right? Let me find the worst things you can. But it's hard to keep up right now. this is the The wildest thing about right now is how hard it is to keep up. like yeah I'm like, oh, I should save that for later. And then, I mean, two days later, there's been 15 other things and I don't even remember what it was that we I thought we should talk about.
00:02:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's nonstop. It's just, it's constant these days. Yeah, I i can barely keep up. It's like you got to have a mechanism for dealing with it. Like, you know, people used to count to 10. Mine is I recite RFK's originally poetry. Yeah, that helps. I am a river. I receive my harvest.
00:03:18
Speaker
Maybe I should try that. My friend sent me um said me something just a minute ago. It was like... ah like i still dislike said I still dislike the Star Wars sequels, but I can no longer fault them for running with the premise of 20 years after fascism, same fascism again, but stupider.
00:03:40
Speaker
Because we just lived through that. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's so good. Yep, that's about right. Yeah.

Grifters and Financial Malfeasance

00:03:50
Speaker
So Sam had messaged you and we talked about doing like kind of a ah Christian nightmares, favorite nightmares of the year roundup. And yeah, he mentioned two grifters.
00:04:04
Speaker
the Right? Biggest grifters? Yeah, we do love the grifters. Because I think there's a fascination the fascination with grifters is like like the level of belief. like that Anyone can make themselves believe something. like they The level of belief, it's kind of fun to figure out, but it's kind of irrelevant altogether because...
00:04:25
Speaker
you know, you can just make yourself think that the money is God's blessing as a bonus to you being a giant piece of shit. So you don't really know, but grifters will, will endlessly be like some of our favorites. Um, we, we will do some little, um, we often like to spend some time on like pastors who get arrested, here um, and we like to focus on financial malfeasance because it's usually comical how they, what they do with the money. Um,
00:04:54
Speaker
And the only other option is, you know, sexual predators towards children. And that gets old after a while. We don't it's hard to stay focused on. that Yeah. So that is fun. Yeah. So the the money ones is where you can feel like a little more comfortable laughing at their plight.
00:05:11
Speaker
Less, you know, maybe maybe the victims will get some of their hard earned cash back. Yeah, hopefully. that' um the The kind of grifters I focused on were are kind of a range of non traditional, I guess, in a way. You'll know what i mean in a minute.
00:05:29
Speaker
And just straight up just pure charlatan, trying to pull the wool over and trying to get rich at the same time. Yeah. um Man, it's it we did I'm trying to was it three years ago we did this or two years ago we did this? At least maybe three. Yeah, I think it might have been three. mean I'm
00:05:51
Speaker
I feel like every year I'm like, I want to do, but I got to do this again. and Here we are. So thank you. I just want to say thanks again for being here. I really appreciate it. Thanks for putting this list together. Yeah.
00:06:02
Speaker
yeah Thanks. Yeah. Well, I want to start with um the number five. I'm going to count them down, I guess. All right. Is this guy, Mark Fitzpatrick from Boise, Idaho.
00:06:14
Speaker
He owns a bar called the old old state saloon. Okay. Yeah. he kind of You may have heard about him because last summer he put on the Hetero Awesome Fest. yeah oh yeah that's what that's from okay i was trying to place the one clip and i'm like i've seen this video before but what was this from hetero awesome hetero awesome fest yeah it was his his uh counter to pride month you know it's so funny like it's just the i think the irony is that no matter how straight all these people try to be they'll never get that it makes them it just sounds so gay like every time that's
00:06:57
Speaker
That could be. So he's just done a few things. So with the Hetero Awesome Fest, it was, you know, he gets he gets a lot of publicity for these things. And, he you know, he pushes buttons, he stirs people up. But it was a huge flop, thankfully.
00:07:11
Speaker
um Not many people turned out. He ended up losing money. And then the grift kind of comes in with him then trying to raise money for his big flop. You know, you know he was he spent thousands and thousands of dollars on security and on booths and stuff. Security. He was afraid of all the trans warriors showing up to kill Yeah, exactly. They always like calling out, like, the peaceful tolerant left. Yeah.
00:07:40
Speaker
yeah Like I got an angry email from a 12 year old that told me to kill myself. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's, I mean, that's a good segue into the next one because he, he, um, earlier this year, he, um, he offered a free beer.
00:07:57
Speaker
i think it was free beer for a month or or something like that to anyone to be illegal. Yeah. What's that? That has to be illegal. maybe Maybe it is. But he was offering free beer to anyone who snitched the ice.
00:08:09
Speaker
um That resulted in somebody getting arrested and deported. How do you prove that? I don't even know. i think maybe one person was able to claim it.
00:08:21
Speaker
But he did. They were underage too? Yeah, probably. He... um so he, he did this, this, he made this offer a lot of coverage for it, but he got bombarded with, with angry emails and, and of phone messages and stuff like that. And then he, again, kind of cried persecution and was like, Hey, Oh, well one, one, one thing I should add this thing, got this um tweet that he put out about the free beer to people who snitched ice got retweeted by DHS, by the official
00:08:54
Speaker
DHS Twitter account. oh Oh my God. Which is insane. I'm surprised. Living in now. Yeah. So they retweeted it and it and it went cute you know it went viral and um and a lot of people thought it was awesome you know that you would expect to that are in line with that kind of crap. And then a lot of people called him out and he was getting a lot of you know voice messages and and emails. So then again, he cried persecution and and was asking for donations to help with security, beefing up security again. At his church, just in general. At his bar, yeah. Oh, his bar.
00:09:28
Speaker
Yeah. yeah I read a little bit of some of the stuff that was up on there, and it was like, see, he has a Kickstarter or something or a GoFundMe. Yeah. And the goal is a million dollars. Oh, God. Yeah, it's something crazy. He's raised like $7,300. Right. Which is still crazy that people would get. Dude, yeah. these These boomers cannot wait to give their money to an idiot.
00:09:51
Speaker
Like they just every day they they get up and scroll looking for a new one to give it to. It's like it's $10 more. dollars I don't have to leave my children. now It's like I think Kyle Rittenhouse got more money than this guy though.
00:10:06
Speaker
but Probably. yeah Yeah, he hasn't been successful at fundraising, but it doesn't stop him from trying.

Exposing Grifters: Failures and Mystique

00:10:12
Speaker
Yeah. yeah yeah also yeah I like the The consistent effort of like trying to throw these events and then when they're flops, like that that pattern of persecution and then trying to do a new fundraising scheme, like there's there's no lessons learned. like He's not realizing that people... like Because he looks at the news and he sees what's what's working and ah he's really having... i mean, what else could it be
00:10:43
Speaker
When it's working everywhere else and it's not for him, then the enemy. There's the only reasonable explanation. Right. Because everyone else is grifting so good right now, and it's really not fair.
00:10:54
Speaker
I think it's like ah it's kind of like the whole thing with horror movies, where like a lot of times the scariest horror movies are the ones that give you like very limited glances of the of the the monster, the ghost, the...
00:11:07
Speaker
the the you know, Kaiju that's destroying the city or whatever, you know, like the the trap that these guys fall into is like having to actually show up and be visible in public because it like the the specter of the event is very ominous and dangerous and people get excited about it. But then when you go there and it looks like somebody's filming Wally in like Toledo, Ohio, Like it's just loses. This is the same thing. So like when I was a kid, you know, I grew up in Michigan and in Michigan, like one of the things that people would talk about kind of like hush, hush, whisper, you know, once in a while is like, ah
00:11:44
Speaker
the the Michigan militia, which I don't know if that's anything anybody's heard of outside of there. I'm sure. Basically, it's like it was supposed to be like kind of ah an extrajudiciary like militia force, you know, made up of ex-military guys and stuff like that from across the state. and But then they would have like events and get togethers once in a while and they'd, you know, there'd be a bunch outcry about it and then people would go down there and film at the event. And it's, it's just sad. It's just fat old cosplaying as army dudes, like people who are never in the army and they're like 65 now and, and can barely fit a pistol belt around their waist. Like,
00:12:28
Speaker
down there to do target practice or uh you know talk about their their their everyday carry setup or whatever i think this this this whole thing works best when you keep it like like barely visible like it's got it you got to keep it ominous and and uh unpredictable right now like cash patel has he's been good with the unpredictable factor but the um As soon as he started making himself present and posting a lot on Twitter, it was ah that that was his downfall.

Absurdity in Grifter Narratives

00:13:01
Speaker
Yeah. Guys, I got to pause for one second. Yeah, no problem. Okay, sorry. ah Momentary pause because the UPS guy got stuck in my yard trying to back out and I had to pull him out with my truck. I've installed a makeshift moat in my yard now. it's full of water and i don't know.
00:13:22
Speaker
Skeletons of past UPS drivers. Yeah, so we got a couple of clips of this Mark Fitzpatrick guy. Oh, right, that's what we're talking about. all right.
00:13:35
Speaker
This is a so this is a good one. I remember this one making the rounds after he did it. He says would accept all immigrants. What would you say that demonstration that we have from Jesus's kingdom is that it has walls and there's no way anybody would be able to enter this kingdom that would defile it. and Walls everywhere. Best example of an ice commander. It's Jesus Christ himself.
00:14:00
Speaker
That's incredible. Yeah. That pretty much sums him up, Mark Fitzpatrick. It doesn't even like I'm actually I was trying to follow along and then i don't know if it was the fact that I don't know if it was that there are walls surrounding our country that threw me off to follow that logical flow. But to keep his demons out. Yeah, I missed the big connection right in there of how ice and Jesus are so remarkably similar.
00:14:28
Speaker
your name yeah Your name is not in the book. You have to go back to Venezuela. yeah Even if you were born there and moved at the age of two, go back. It was ah all those ah memes doing the rounds of like ah the administration kidnaps ah the Venezuelan president and then like ICE deports him back there by accident. Yeah.
00:14:51
Speaker
Oh, we do have a clip of, uh, what am no, no, uh, hetero awesome fest. There was one clip in particular that really made the rounds at the time. Do you, do you know who the guy talking is? Oh man, I did at one point, I'd have to look him up. I can send it to you guys if you want to add it in later, but, um,
00:15:11
Speaker
Must be a podcast host or something like that. Yeah, he is. He's a podcast host. Not another one of those. He's right in line with Mark Fitzpatrick. Real right-wing guy. And pretty anti-Semitic from what I've learned about him. And as you see, he's pretty racist.
00:15:35
Speaker
Despite what people want you to believe, anti-Semitism is... lower in that group than you would expect. no yeah not back yeah he's He's not one of these pro-Rizzeril guys. He kind of deviates from the MAGA pack there. Yeah, that's always that does stand out.
00:15:52
Speaker
That's old school nut. yeah but he was I think this is the clip you're talking about, Casey. is this is It's at the Heter Awesome Fest and he makes a racist comment. Yeah, they're talking about Boise. Patrick is sitting right there with him.
00:16:05
Speaker
I think this is necessary to point out for content. Okay, so here it is. but Boise, it's a really nice place. beautiful. an American city, It's top-notch American city. Absolutely. yeah There are still very good bars around, great food. There's the Basque District.
00:16:22
Speaker
Again, it's clean. There aren't any Black people here. And tons of Mormons, which is just Kansas City. That, yeah.
00:16:33
Speaker
it i was so I actually was expecting something slightly more masked, something a little more subtle. No, he's not subtle. Yeah. So that's that's kind of that's who's hanging out at the hetero awesome fest with Mark Fitzpatrick.
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah, and when he's talking about good bars, I can only imagine he's talking about Mark Fitzpatrick's bar. Yeah, the old state saloon. Old state saloon. So Sam came and visited me a couple years ago, and I took him to, in the town, the closest piece of civilization to where I live, there's there's a bar that,

MAGA Bar Experience

00:17:09
Speaker
it's called True Lies, and it's a MAGA bar.
00:17:13
Speaker
Hmm. And i I took Sam. I didn't really tell him much about it. I'm just like, hey, we got to go here. It's like something we need to see. And it's I think they had 2000 mules playing on the TV like while we were there eating.
00:17:26
Speaker
it was It's like it was like in the middle of what felt like an industrial park. Yeah, it's not in a spot that makes any sense. And it's an old, weird building, you know, like one of those old school bars that doesn't have any windows and stuff. Yeah, super depressing.
00:17:43
Speaker
Supposedly it gets rough at night. Like I've heard a lot of a lot of ah trailer park squabbles go down over there. So fun place. need a full documentary on that. But I liked the um the fairly good sized dance floor in the middle of that place good size i would i would be curious to see what kind of dancing goes on there at night uh after hours it a lot of obviously country music square dances boots cowboy hats uh guns and holsters probably not a lot of twerking i wouldn't imagine yeah i wouldn't think so but
00:18:25
Speaker
know Yes, Sam got to try ah Rocky Mountain oysters for the first

Catherine Crick: Exorcisms and Authenticity

00:18:30
Speaker
time. Oh, boy. He was not a fan. Yeah, i'm I've never done that. Don't think I will.
00:18:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely a texture thing yeah that makes it unbearable. He took a little piece, he put it in his mouth, he goes, mmm, mmm.
00:18:47
Speaker
It's like just like eating the... like I feel like it's like it's like eating the cartilage off of like you know a chicken bone. it's just It's like a fried suction cup.
00:18:58
Speaker
yeah That's calamari, actually.
00:19:05
Speaker
Oh, man. All right. I have another one here, number four, if you guys are ready for it. Yeah, let's move on. Number four. This is more of kind of traditional grifter in my book. um Her name's Catherine Crick.
00:19:22
Speaker
Oh, lovely Catherine Crick. Apostle Catherine Crick, I think she calls herself. 4C Church. What is 4... 5F Church, I think. 5F. 4C, 5F, whatever. Almost made it. 5F Church in in Los Angeles, California. Yeah.
00:19:41
Speaker
So it's interesting with hers. She started, I did some research on her. i i wrote about her a little bit on my sub stack. um She started off as an aspiring actress and she, she tried that for a few years. She's in this, um,
00:19:57
Speaker
I don't know if the show ever got made, but it was a pilot for a show, I think, where she played a porn star where the oh a square guy ah is roommates with a porn star. She plays the porn star. She was in this ad for for like something for about cougars, like cougars, cougars dot com or something about for cougars where she's running on the beach kind of Baywatch style with a bunch of other women.
00:20:21
Speaker
um And she did a few other things, a short film. But anyway, she it didn't seem it seems like the acting thing didn't really pan out. um She moved out to when she moved out to California. And then shortly after she decided another a prophet or somebody that she met told her that she was kind of anointed and and meant to start a ministry. something along those lines. So she started this 5F church.
00:20:46
Speaker
um You may have seen some of the videos. She does a lot of things in parks, parks out in LA. Really unsettling. deep Demons, you know exercises, quote unquote demons from people.
00:20:57
Speaker
Yeah. She makes me really uncomfortable. um I mean, actually exorcisms in general do. Yeah. Because none of them are real. Let's be. Well, yeah. ah But na like what? Yeah.
00:21:10
Speaker
what does it bother? What bothers me so much about all the people in on it together? it was like, and I understand that like there's a collective effervescence that could be going on as well.
00:21:22
Speaker
um But not in those scenarios. Like I look, I was part of like a charismatic Christian, like Pentecostally thing for a while when I was at Liberty University.
00:21:36
Speaker
um We would go like they had they had this like prayer building or something like that. i don't know. it was just like it looked like an old church had like probably six pews on each side, six or seven pews on each side. Nothing big, um neat little building. And we all just met up there and it got weird. that was where I first was introduced to people speaking in tongues. Um, all these gifts of the spirit prophecy, this and that. Uh, but I settled into it right. Uh, where I stopped feeling like put off by that. It just became comfortable. And then that's, I, that's where like I would watch some of that more bizarre stuff happen. Not, no, no, no exorcisms, but, uh, prophecies tongues. Um, and I'm like,
00:22:22
Speaker
I never really bought it, but I was with well-meaning people who who I didn't, they weren't they weren't faking it. um And i at that time, I was like, I still kind of believe that they're just kind of like able to roll into this because you're, it's like when you play Dungeons and Dragons and you just are in your characters, like,
00:22:43
Speaker
you're just playing your character, you know, that's Christian dungeons and dragons and it's fine. Um, and, but with like Catherine Crick and some of these like street apostles, I'm like in with her coming from the acting, world of like acting world. I go, all of this feels like,
00:23:00
Speaker
It's very fake. Like, I don't think there's I think you can genuinely believe you're doing these things and feel like maybe you're getting a demon extracted from you. um It might last a few days before that porn demon gets its grubby little paws back on you again. But like. It just, I don't know, like, watch that shit in the park. You're like, I mean, are they all paid actors? Like, it feels so crazy. think some of them might be. You see a lot of similar faces in all those videos if you watch enough. Oh, yeah. But I think some people, I don't know what it is. It's like, like, well, like you said about people speaking in tongues, and you said these people that you knew weren't faking it. Did you mean like...
00:23:42
Speaker
they really believe they were speaking in tongues or yeah, I think they did. Yeah. I think it might be something similar with this Catherine Crick exorcist stuff where I think, I think some of the people probably are paid actors and are in on it with her, but I think some people want to experience something so badly and they see somebody else experiencing it and they want it to be real for, I don't know. I think they kind of give themselves. Yeah. for that. Well, there's certain attention seeking too. Sometimes I think involved. i ah Oh, I think that's a lot of it. Yeah. Yeah. Think about you think back on your years in church and like, dude, every time there was any sort of open mic up front, somebody was clamoring to get up there and say something nuts, you know, or, or do a violin solo that they really weren't prepared for or sing a song that no one should ever have to listen to. Yeah. You know, I,
00:24:34
Speaker
There's, i think with this, it's like, if you want to be, you know, adding all this like demonic element to religion and stuff, I think it makes it more exciting. It feels more like you're a part of some movement or, you know, you're facing the forces of darkness or whatever. And these people love getting up there and doing their like demon impression.
00:24:57
Speaker
Like the the chick that's in this video here, ah She is so over the top. It's ridiculous. Yeah, you play yeah here we go. all right God is freeing you right now.
00:25:11
Speaker
I renounce ducing spirits. I renounce all the fallen that I've worked with. oh Every last spirit of witchcraft must leave her on three in Jesus' name.
00:25:24
Speaker
One, two, three. not for the covenants I made with her. Ah! comments all of those demonic covenants now i feel so embarrassed i'm like jesus having horrific secondhand embarrassment it's painful to watch in the order you entered all must leave in the order they entered first in first out system here i like that i bet she can stock a mean shelve at 7-elevens
00:25:56
Speaker
thank you You think inside of her there's like two lines of demons going like, you, me, you, me? No, pardon me. No, you first.
00:26:07
Speaker
She didn't address me specifically, but then she asked us all to come out. I don't know. Dude, the sneering and giggling is always a part of the demon routine. Like that's right that's a big piece of it But like they're mocking God.
00:26:22
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Like that's that's meant to be. But it's funny. we We've said it a thousand times, but it's hilarious to me that the demons never swear. Yeah. It's my favorite. I've never heard one cuss before, and it's like, oh man, just waiting wait. This, this evil creature wants to make a mockery of the church and stuff, but abides by the rules. yeah Says, gosh, darn it.
00:26:45
Speaker
yeah and' such it So Catherine Crick is, so she's, she's been doing this for several

International Influence of Catherine Crick

00:26:52
Speaker
years now. I think she may, might've started in 2017. That's early. I think it's fascinating. ah You offered up a bit of information I wasn't aware of and that she was anointed or someone told her she was anointed. Yeah, I'm pretty, I'm um almost 99% sure that that was. And whoever that person was is the real villain, the real demon, actually.
00:27:12
Speaker
Bob, what's your face? She just made that too. But she has millions of, follow she has at least, she has over 2 million followers on across social media. So people are interested in her for whatever reason. um I used to reach out to her here every like several months trying to get her on the podcast. Oh man, that was great. That never worked. i don't think she'll do it. but Those people don't love going into hostile territory.
00:27:40
Speaker
No, no. and Yeah, I can't see that. Unless we we're demon possessed. Maybe we could convince her to try to cast them out. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why not. I don't know how much money she's making. i really don't. I wouldn't be surprised if she is doing okay in that department. But what's really shitty, I mean, this stuff is ridiculous and absurd and she's a grifter and, you know, like like millions of other people have done you know, done these, this type of things before. But, um, what's really shitty about her is that she also claims to heal people from cancer, HIV, depression, you know, mental health issues. So that's where this gets really, you know, dangerous. Yeah, for sure. There's a real like popular clip of her that goes around and it's like, uh, it's an Asian dude. He's bald and he's there talking about his kid having autism and yeah,
00:28:32
Speaker
he's he He's clearly like he's nervous and he's talking off script, but like he says like, we've tried everything. He's just got no brains at all. I remember I posted that. yeah and then she starts casting the... the you know like the hegemonic demons out of him first and he does a somersault on stage yeah I remember and then his so then his kid gets up there and his kid when he gets the demon cast out it's sad but it's so funny it's like this little nerdy kid and he's like what just happened wow laughing laughing he's trying his best to play a along laughing laughing
00:29:19
Speaker
In my experience, the autistic kids have the hardest time just playing along. So you take a better person to cast a demon a pretend demon out of. Do you have any idea, like, I assume that she's doing like a weekly service of some sort. Like, does she do that every week? Does she like cast out demons and stuff? Or is that just like specific events or something like that? I'm not really sure. That's a good question. I should find out. um
00:29:52
Speaker
I know she does have a church and I'm pretty sure she has services every week, but she does a lot of that stuff in the park. Yeah, she's outside a lot. Yeah, she's outside a lot. She's also been traveling around the world now. You know, so she's taking it abroad. You know, she's taking the show on the road and, you know, bouncing across continents with this garbage too. so Spending in a lot of time in Europe, is she?
00:30:13
Speaker
Yeah. yeah They don't seem to stop in Europe very often. Yeah, right. In their world tour. Eastern Europe. Russia's a big spot. Yeah. every Every spiritual grifter has like a little enclave in Russia. Yeah. It's like the ah it's like the only foreign chapter of Amshin Rikyo is in Moscow. Yeah.
00:30:38
Speaker
Yeah, so that's Catherine Crick. You can look her up if you want anybody. just and Doesn't it get boring? like It just feels like it must get boring doing that. like I don't know. i don't know what drives her really. you know It's the same thing. every I mean, I get if the money. I guess it's just work. Money and i people...
00:31:01
Speaker
you maybe you start to believe your own lie. i don't know. You start to feel kind of powerful. more yeah i just feel like that's always a part of it. It's gotta to be like, yeah. ah I'm trying to think like what, like, like what would, if I could convince people that I was something I'm not to make myself feel powerful, what would it have to be in order for me to commit my life to it and screw everybody else over?
00:31:23
Speaker
Oh, you could do ah you could do a great meme coin launch. Yeah. you Pump and dump. We should do that together. I think we're late in the game to pump. I do at least have the track record where I could ah fleece a bunch of lefties. You know, I might be able to like if I get someone who could say the things the right way and I can just like tie my face and personality to it. Maybe maybe we can fleece a bunch of leftists. But no. They don't have a lot of money, unfortunately. Those guys kind of just like, you know, we're all just kind of fucking barely making it.
00:31:57
Speaker
know Yeah. Wrong, wrong audience. Yeah. Old people. That's the best audience. yeah So number three, Stephen Furtick.

Stephen Furtick's Charisma and Wealth

00:32:08
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I don't really know much about Stephen Furtick. I've seen a couple of clips of him pop up, but like, Sam, don't you know somebody that goes to like a Stephen Furtick church? I know someone who's a pastor at a Stephen Furtick church. Really? really um Yeah. I don't know. He was one of the people who led that ah charismatic prayer group that I attended. He he went on to see. He is a campus pastor at Stephen.
00:32:38
Speaker
what's What's his church called? Elevation Church. Elevation. he iss ah He's a campus pastor at Elevation Church. Wow. What's his name? he He is like when he became like Casey. So what's his name? ah I mean, not that it wouldn't be public. What's his kid's names?
00:32:58
Speaker
he His address even. um he I think what is very strange about Steven Furtick's cult of personality is that this kid I know. i Look, I think he was... I always really liked him.
00:33:15
Speaker
I thought he was a great guy. So I'm disappointed that that's where he ended up. I've never doubted his sincerity. i think he's sincerely wrong in where he's parking his ah beliefs. But I...
00:33:30
Speaker
ah the cult of personality, Stephen Furtick was like, became really clear to me when he went there and started dressing the same, talking the same, preaching the same, same haircut. Like he like kind of turned into his mini me yeah in a way that it was just like, that's disappointing that you don't even see that or that your family isn't like, I thought you were my dad, but is Stephen, is this Stephen Furtick? Like, I don't know.
00:33:56
Speaker
Stephen Furtick my dad? Is this Stephen Furtick? He's raised sneakers. Yeah. Steven Furtick's got um that that. I have. Oh, my God. There's a lot of issues with his this situation.
00:34:08
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, cult of personality is a good way to put it, too. mean, he is kind of like this hyped up testosterone fueled like christian Tony Robbins, you know. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. It's just this like, you know, he's he's really just a motivational speaker, you know, self-help coach.
00:34:28
Speaker
But um yeah, he just, he talks a lot, but he doesn't say very much. I was just going to say the same thing. You know, a lot of long pause, like he can, he can stretch a 20 minute sermon into 45 minutes easy. Yeah, just, and and I don't know if you,
00:34:44
Speaker
remember him from years ago, but he was a pretty scrawny, thin little dude. And now he's this jacked up Muscle bro. Muscle bro head guy who, you know, I have no idea what's going on there, you know, but. um I'll speculate for us I certainly would assume it's steroids. alleged I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? Is it like that? Is it like to lambiesis level? Lambiesis level. if you Google him, if you Google Stephen Furtick from like 15 years ago and Stephen Furtick today, it's it's crazy. The difference
00:35:19
Speaker
Here's the thing. You can say whatever you want as long as you start with allegedly. So it doesn't matter. Allegedly. but But he's huge now. i mean, his church is is big He's... ah He still wears the same size t-shirts he wore 15 years ago. He's reportedly worth $60 million dollars now.
00:35:37
Speaker
a oh He has millions of followers on social media. um Yeah. he's You got a clip lined up, Casey? Yeah. Let's hear from Pastor Steve. Yeah, he's got a little of that... ah that Rubio shimmy going on. This clip was one of my favorites of last year as far as just ridiculousness and his seeming ah confession.
00:36:04
Speaker
<unk> know every adler. I know them all.
00:36:09
Speaker
Keep the beat going. Keep the beat going. I'm clapping. I'm praising. I feel like I just snorted cocaine or something. I'm so excited. And I never did that before. For the record.
00:36:20
Speaker
For the record. For the record. For the record. I'm clapping my head up.
00:36:31
Speaker
Dude, steroid-addled brain panic. Yeah, you hear the panic in his voice. Like, like what the fuck did I just say? Like, he just called J.D. Vance an assassin.
00:36:46
Speaker
ah So that's, yeah, that's Stephen Furtick. What is his, like, problematic... ah Is it just all the traditional, like, evangelical nonsense of...
00:36:58
Speaker
Yeah. it I don't know. It feels like it's just... it Dude, it Tony Robbins, he said it just right. it was it's It's like the power... it's you can't The power can't be in you because it's all about God, but it's the same type of rhetoric, but instead of like the power's in you, it's just you say the Holy Spirit and you you're like... It's that like intense, like real intense like repetition of words. Like...
00:37:27
Speaker
And then getting people to confirm what you said was true by being like, can I get an amen church? Did you hear what I said? no one could come against you. Did you hear what I said? Like you get so into it It's literally like you, he just juices up and like, and it's, it's like a drug, you know, like, don't know if you guys are, did you guys go to Christian camp and in the summer?
00:37:50
Speaker
oh yeah. yeah Yeah. The only Christian camp I went to was Christian apologetics camp. Yeah. Oh, really? Wow, that sucks worse than my camp. I just remember like you know a week at camp and like I'd come home and I'd be all like riled up and like on fire for the Lord, quote unquote. and And then like you feel like pretty good for like maybe a few days and then it kind of slowly you slowly crash and that kind of wears off and then you feel like, whoa, what's wrong? you know I don't know. i feel like that Stephen Furtick church, it's like you just get that dopamine hit all the time. You must yeah have to keep coming back for that.
00:38:27
Speaker
you know ah You must feel so p you know jacked up when you leave there. I don't know. I could see how it be addicting in a way. For sure. And it feels like you in a lot of ways, I and ah i hate i hate to say this, but in a lot of ways, he's probably not saying anything like anything dangerous or bad or he's not i don't know he maybe he is casting out demons maybe he's getting into the weeds on some weird shit but a lot of it's just like you can go out there and be great you can be your best self like i think he plays probably like benign like the thing that one of the things that he had a big he got hit for big was like um and this is what always happens with pastors right is like him his book deal he made he makes tons of money on his books and technically like you can't
00:39:15
Speaker
yeah He can't get this rich off his books if he wrote them on like within his capacity as a pastor. um And he's like, no, I never once wrote one time during my operating hours as a pastor. I only wrote at home when I was done being a pastor. And it's like, shut the fuck up, dude. We know you didn't do that. like And then, yeah, the $60 million. dollar He's worth $60 million. He's probably got like a, I mean, his home, I don't remember. Last time I looked, he built like a 20 million dollar fucking mansion he's just like uh he's basically like uh a mix of joel olstein and the pit piltdown man more or less that's what it sounds like it's like joe rogan meets joel olstein he's not like uh he's not like an outright lunatic in the same way that like greg lock is
00:40:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. No, no. And he's probably stayed largely apolitical to his best efforts. Yeah. I think he plays it pretty safe on purpose. you know Yeah. Non-offensive.
00:40:19
Speaker
You can make the most money. Right. Right. I don't think Greg Locke's making money. is he's got a He's got a real air of desperation about him nowadays.
00:40:30
Speaker
Yeah. He's kind of not getting as much attention anymore. Yeah, it's because everyone everyone in our current government is way more insane than you, so he's got nothing. Right. He's feeling left out. Once you're out insanity by every single member of the fucking government, you're like, ah, shit, I don't have a shtick anymore. Yeah, exactly. He's the only member of the ah the Spiritual Advisory Council that hasn't been convicted of like child molestation or owning CSAM or whatever, you know? Let's see.
00:40:59
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe you he goes to the White House and you're like, maybe he'll be a good influence. don't know. He's the only one that thinks like, I mean, he lives in a rural area where he's like the age, he's actively lobbying for the age of consent to go down to 16 again.
00:41:17
Speaker
God, I hate that guy. He's one of my least favorites. I really hate him. Yeah. He's terrible.
00:41:24
Speaker
All right. So who's at number two? right. Number two, i have Carolyn Levitt, the White House secretary press secretary.

Carolyn Levitt's Public Persona and Politics

00:41:35
Speaker
that's That's such a good one here. That's such a good one.
00:41:40
Speaker
Oh, thanks. um I don't know if I say thanks, but um yeah, I have her as a, i don't know if Grifter's the right charlatan maybe is a better ah term for her. But um I don't know. I just, just thinking about how she, she prays before. i don't know if you've seen these videos of her praying before her white house press briefings. She intentionally, at least, at least once has posted it.
00:42:05
Speaker
I feel like it's been more than that. Post these videos of her praying with her team. And then she goes out to, you know, to to press briefing, to lie her face off and yeah to support this administration. That is the complete antithesis of anything. jesus She's going out to face the enemy head on. She has her.
00:42:24
Speaker
I don't I don't even remember what the armor of the Lord is. Her spear, her shield of righteousness or helmet of teleprompter of deceit. Yeah. but so I think this is the clip of her ah before the press conference. OK. Lord Jesus, please give us the strength, the knowledge, the ability to articulate our words, have fun, and be confident in Jesus' name.
00:42:50
Speaker
Amen. Have fun? Did she say have fun and be confident? Let's have fun. Look, do our best. Let's fun out there, guys. Just have fun. yeah Let's just have fun calling reporters pigs. Like it's a sports game. It's so insane. Yeah.
00:43:07
Speaker
So yes. So she's number two on the list for me just day after day lying to people supporting the Trump administration. Yeah. And she lies. It's look, you got to respect being able to lie that quick on your feet. Like they're not good lies, but she like, she doesn't flinch. She's got a feral energy.
00:43:28
Speaker
get there's very few sociopaths on the planet that would that would go in and sell it that hard you know well i mean it to not cave under that pressure and under under the heaping masses of your own lives that are just like caving in on you constantly and you're like you're smiling and selling that shit with the straightest like posture and With a crossfire acting like everyone. It's like it's just like if there was like um if there was a national award for gaslighting, she would win it. sure Yeah.
00:44:04
Speaker
Where did she come from beforehand? Did she? come home I should know this. I don't even know for sure. I'm not even sure. um She's not. She's pretty young.
00:44:15
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. i'm Like a bartender in Mar-a-Lago or exactly. You notice they didn't bring back all Mother Abigail for the second round.
00:44:26
Speaker
which it What's that awful lady that was the press secretary for a while? Wait, was it Sarah Huckabee Sanders? Huckabee, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. She was terrible. yeah she That's a stern lady. yeah she she Her quitting was pretty funny, though, because I i remember like she would get more flustered up there, right? Yeah. She wasn't the right type of psychopath. No. Carolyn Leavitt is like...
00:44:56
Speaker
like she had No hesitation. don No, because she's truly psychotic. like Sarah Huckabee Sanders was just like, like she's and on the wrong team um and she's wrong about things, but she like really believes. like She believed in what she thought, like in that. like She was like, um yeah, this is the right thing. And then when she was just like hounded to her face about every dumb thing that was happening, she collapsed because she's like,
00:45:24
Speaker
Like she wasn't psychotic enough to like disassociate like truth and in reality from like what you want to be true. So like unlike this lady here, she is she's fantastic at that. She's living in a completely different universe than the rest of us. Sarah Huckabee Sanders was under the the mistaken notion that the trick is to have thick skin.
00:45:50
Speaker
But the trick is to have no feelings to hurt. Yeah. That's it. It's true. An empty vessel underneath a scowl. That's that's what you want to be. Who takes that job anyways? Like, oh, who in the world wants to be the press secretary for the white whatever administration like nobody's ever like, wow, that person's a really great press secretary. Everybody hates you. And then afterwards, like ah old what's her face, Pierre from the Biden administration, like she's still on her speaking tour talking about how like.
00:46:25
Speaker
you know, ah Biden was actually really confident. yeah You can hang up your spurs now and just talk like a normal person. right But ah yeah, Carolyn Levitt, even just today, actually talking about the, um,
00:46:46
Speaker
terrible shooting in Minneapolis, ICE agent was, yeah they held they had a press conference today and she said that the the shooting was a result of a larger sinister left wing movement.
00:46:58
Speaker
That was one thing she said. And the and she also said the you know it's because the brave men and women of law enforcement are under an organized attack. So that's what she's spitting out today.
00:47:09
Speaker
Because somebody tried to drive away. Yeah. yeah An organized attack. One person is involved and it's an organized attack. I mean, look, we're all getting rounded up on some database right now at this point. Anyone who speaks up against it posts a meme, posts whatever.
00:47:25
Speaker
But to refer to us as organized, like my biggest gripe is that we're not organized enough. like I'm with you. Yeah. It's like, no, bitch, you're wrong in all the wrong ways, though, because like...
00:47:37
Speaker
Like, I'm sad that you're wrong. Like, this is the one time you're like, like, I want to be true. Like, I need what you're saying. I need, we need an organized effort. the The part of it that gives me hope, because I'm in Kansas, right? And most everybody that I'm around all day long is, you know, right wing person, a lot of MAGA people and stuff. But this isn't, they're not selling this to that group like they were.
00:48:05
Speaker
like There's a core group of MAGA people that are just unwavering and they're never going to change. you know But like the vast majority of the people who voted him in this past time, they're just not buying these like absurdist statements that are just completely false like they were in the past. think that...
00:48:23
Speaker
cause it i think that I think if Trump was, I think he made a mistake going for the second term because the last thing that he needs for his legacy is to be is to be held responsible for results.

Trump Supporters' Evolving Views

00:48:39
Speaker
And I feel like there's nowhere to, like the economy and everything is at such a tipping point now. There's nowhere to run. You're not going postpone economic despair till the next administration and just pass it off as Bidenomics or whatever you want to call it. You know, like, The the chickens are coming home to roost it within this term. And I think, oh i don't know, man, just the people that I talk to, it seems like a lot of them have jumped ship to some extent.
00:49:05
Speaker
They're still right wing. They're still conservative. But like when they come out and just say something absolutely absurd, like, yeah, this lady trying to drive away was part of a left wing attack on ice.
00:49:16
Speaker
ah People are are just not gobbling that up like they used to. Do you really hear people speaking questioning it more now out there? Maggot people? Yeah. Yeah. That's to hear.
00:49:29
Speaker
Israel's like a big breaking point. Yeah. And it's like... you know There's always like contingents of people who are like anti-Semitic in the you know in the way that you would imagine. right But like most people are just like, man, stuff sucks here. Everything's falling apart. like Why did we just pledge another $8.5 billion dollars to to supply Israel with F-35s? That stuff is they're just not going to be able to sell that to people anymore. And I think the more of it they do, which it's just so blatant and on the nose nowadays, like This Venezuela thing, everybody was, you know, it's hard not to like root for the troops when they go in and do like some really efficient operation like they did or whatever. It's basically it's just a coup. I mean, he got turned over by his own people, but.
00:50:19
Speaker
People are not going to buy this like we need to rebuild Venezuelan infrastructure and we need to like subsidize the oil companies to make investments in in Venezuelan oil and stuff.
00:50:32
Speaker
I just don't I don't think it's going to happen. Right. the The average American taxpayer is never going to see a penny from that. And they've got to know that. Yeah, I hope it does turn on him. But i don't know if I don't know if Trump cares about his legacy. I think he cares about getting rich, you know making more money. i don't know. I don't i don't even know. I think that's more salient for him. And i think I honestly think he's like, I have to run. I have to run and I have to win or I am going to prison.
00:50:59
Speaker
like he was i think he was just on his way to going to prison. um and maybe minute Maybe he would have gotten out of it, but I i do think running and being president again was a a part of that. He's also owned completely, right? We know that. He's got so much blackmail on him at this point. Well, that's not fair. It was like, oh, we can and we can instill just a complete puppet president, and all of our little shadow presidents get to like run the world and play patty cakes. And then he gets to get out of jail and, uh, you know, buy his time, and figure out how to like, how to move on after all this in the next four years. Or like maybe he knows as well as us all of us that he might just, he might just die in office.
00:51:44
Speaker
Chances are high. there Yeah. And then every, every day his face gets a little more a play-dohy on one side. does good. Everything's leaning. Yeah.
00:51:57
Speaker
Barely keep his eyes open. But what does that leave us? Diddy Vance? Yeah, and that's actually... It could be worse. It could be worse. I because i really i don't i don't know how you get worse because it's just already... we're just This is it. like it's just that That group is just ruining everything. it's like That's why I'm like, you know, what? You and you impeach Trump and then you get J.D. Vince. It's like the plan all along was just like, make someone even shittier the backup so that way...
00:52:27
Speaker
like you really can't do anything because what's the chances of you getting two impeachments done in a row like that well if one of them's a stroke then maybe right maybe maybe can you like can you must be able i don't even know the rules around what to do with the runner-up like who knows never thought we'd be here but yeah uh want to move on to our other grifter here speaking of running from the law yeah yeah This this this person made number one on my list.
00:53:02
Speaker
And he's number one on my list, too. I'm I'm with you on this guy. watched him a lot over the past year and more than past more than the past year. But Russell Brand, um just how he has, you know, his complete 180, you said, Sam, when we were talking before the show, 100% embracing MAGA Christianity, speaking at Turning Point USA events,
00:53:29
Speaker
baptizing people in his tighty whiteys,
00:53:33
Speaker
bu and baptizing people with Sean Foyt, the Christian musician, worship like guy who's leading worship services in the White House.
00:53:44
Speaker
um Yeah, so Russell Brand apparently is all in on Christianity now. and Oh, yeah, super Christian. At around the same time that he's um been charged with multiple counts of sexual abuse and rape.
00:53:58
Speaker
um So, yeah, I think, yeah, he's he's number one on my list. He's been very outspoken. um He's right in there with MAGA. And his trial is coming up this year in June.
00:54:11
Speaker
So we'll see what happens. He's hoping for that that that DT pardon, the DTP. Something, yeah. The guy is, he's good off the cuff.

Russell Brand and Allegations

00:54:21
Speaker
He's a talker. I mean, he he's non-stop talker.
00:54:27
Speaker
I remember... that i'm trying I would almost want to like catalog his his um his shift a bit. Because during COVID was when I started seeing a lot more of him.
00:54:38
Speaker
ah Clips from his podcast. Him just being the kind of guy who asks questions. But it was still well within the realm of like the internet. right like A lot of people were doing that and it wasn't overly politicized. yeah um There was plenty of...
00:54:55
Speaker
ah the you know, as time goes on and as information came out, like there, and we learned some things about Fauci, like there were there. it I can't, as much as I, I did the COVID vaccine. i wasn't worried about it. I'm still not worried about it. I don't give a shit. I think that people are going down the wrong path when they try to get really conspiratorial about it. Yeah. Your lumpy sperms are still doing the job. Yeah, obviously. Uh, I, but I, I get why people felt the way they did about it, um, to a degree. Um, I, you know, when you try to talk tell people things, uh, because you think it's for their own good and then they find out things that backfires every time, like, and in the age of information, you have to be really careful with that. Um,
00:55:46
Speaker
But all that to say, he had a lot to talk about, about COVID, about um about how countries can not even just a vaccine, but I remember all these videos about like using it for travel restrictions. and I don't know. he He got really in the weeds with it, and I would watch it. I had friends that would send it me, and I'd be like, fuck this guy. This is just This is just kind of that catastrophizing horse shit that people just love, including myself. Look, I am watching catastrophizing horse shit all day long now. So don't, I'm not on my high horse here, everybody.
00:56:28
Speaker
But it was like that curious, somewhat left, somewhat not really, but, and I don't know, like it it felt like it started there though. You started seeing like the shift, um but then like it was, us It feels like it was a very, very quick like turn from like curious questioning to like like just diving in headfirst and being like... i Because I remember when he first got saved, quote-unquote saved, and then I remember an interview he did afterwards where he was still kind of wishy-washy with it, but it was felt like an intentional... slow move. Like he's playing chess, right? Like, it's like, you know, I, I believe these things, but like, I still have these questions. It felt like he was trying to not sell it too fast. Like, like he knew if he was just like, went all in, people would be like, that was too fast. Um, so he like pumped the brakes a little bit and then he had new charges against him and he was all in like the charges, like took the governor right off that engine. And it's been,
00:57:42
Speaker
Let me pull up a clip. Sort of corresponds with with when he joined the Daily Wire, too. Was he playing the Wire? I thought he was, wasn't he? Isn't that where he took his podcast?
00:57:54
Speaker
not sure. I'm not sure. Was it The Blaze? Was it called another another amazing news publication? The Blaze is another one like that where I could see it going there too. I'm not sure. He might be on Daily Wire. i'm not I thought he was still just doing it on his own, but he's he's got a ton of followers.
00:58:08
Speaker
He has like over 20 million followers on social media. All right, let's hear from him. I'll describe him in this video as well because he looks like a total fuck. Most adored and beloved friends, season's greetings. And it's the season of Christ to Jesus, Lord and Savior, the coming of the light and the power.
00:58:33
Speaker
This is a time of great darkness. We're all aware of that. A time of confusion and dispute and conflict. But I've learned in my own life, that attack can bring about grace.
00:58:45
Speaker
I'm so grateful for the opportunity that in my own life that I get to participate in change and transformation and growth and love. And I feel so blessed that I have the opportunity to atone for the many things over the years that I did wrong the opportunity to ensure that people understand the truth of my situation and scenario.
00:59:06
Speaker
Ah, there it is. That's where I wanted to get to the truth of his situation and scenario. right And it was on that day that that video came out that we got to see that he had more charges brought against him or more accusations brought against him. Right, right.
00:59:23
Speaker
His hat, he's wearing like this camo fluffy thing. He's got like a pink, a neon pink hat that said with ah a heart on it that says Jesus loves you. Like his his attire like his is like straight out of like Christian youth camp. um And he just, that's that's his entire wardrobe now. It's just like beautiful.
00:59:46
Speaker
fake ass like youth group Jesusy things. There's really only one appropriate response. That's our favorite drop. yes always there's really only one appropriate response
01:00:03
Speaker
that's our favorite drop Yeah, he's a scumbag. It is a weird... I think I was mistaken. He's not a Daily Wire guy. No, he's still independent. It's just a bunch of articles of, like, Russell Brand accused of rape.
01:00:19
Speaker
Oh. so They're actually doing some reporting. That's great. One person is. Yeah, Daily Wire. Daily Wire, that's Ben Shapiro. What was the blaze? Is that Matt... um No, that's Glenn Beck.
01:00:33
Speaker
ah glenn beck Oh, right. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's cool. He's had a couple of good, good clips this year.
01:00:44
Speaker
can't believe it. Dude, Glenn Beck's special place for me because I used to listen to his show a lot when I was still like a conservative radio guy, like back right after college. and After Liberty?
01:00:57
Speaker
Yep. I kind of dove into that. Like, I didn't go find a church or anything. I just got really into, like, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and and Sean Hannity. I'm so sorry.
01:01:09
Speaker
for the i remember, like, I listened to him quite a bit for a while. And, like, I eventually, like, i i i remember, like, the day that I stopped listening. Like, he...
01:01:20
Speaker
He had published a couple of books and then all of the sudden, like the blaze was publishing a new book from him every month. Oh, really? and they Like they didn't explicitly say that, but it was like once a month, Glenn had a new book out and he was before AI.
01:01:37
Speaker
Right. I don't know if his book said anything, you know, but he every single time he would give a teary eyed pitch for why this book is like, you got to buy it, you know, and I remember the the the day that I quit listening to him.
01:01:52
Speaker
Still steeped in conservative politics and stuff, but he got on there and he was releasing a book. It was around Christmas and it was called like the Christmas sweater or the Christmas shoes or something. I remember that. I remember that sounds really familiar.
01:02:08
Speaker
And I remember him being on the show and he was like, I just want to look. this book, this is the book that your family needs this Christmas.
01:02:20
Speaker
And I'm like, that's it. I'm done. I can't do this anymore. i Like, like watched a couple clips of him. Yeah. That was like, that was it. the I watched a couple clips of him recently.
01:02:34
Speaker
He's doing the same stick. He's been doing it now for like 25 years. He was on there crying. The last clip that I saw of him, he was on there crying and talking about how like he had written Benjamin Netanyahu a letter asking if he could become an Israeli citizen.
01:02:52
Speaker
i have I have nothing to offer except my voice and my love.

Glenn Beck and Dramatic Pitches

01:03:02
Speaker
But I would really love to be a part of the thing. God, Glenn, get... Oh, just die already.
01:03:10
Speaker
You still go back to check in on him once in a while. i do If it was that easy, if you could just write the president of any country that you sent before, I'd be able to get into Canada, probably.
01:03:25
Speaker
Scotland. I said a lot of nice things about Scotland and Ireland. i could probably, you know, to start writing letters. right
01:03:36
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Well, and that was quite a roundup. So Russell Brand. ah One last thing I just wanted to say, if anybody, ah uk but Channel 4 in the UK did this documentary on him called Russell Brand in Plain Sight.
01:03:48
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I think you can find it for free on YouTube or it's streaming, but it's it's it's an incredibly um disturbing but informative documentary about the allegations against him. If anybody wants to check that out, um he's really kind of like a more annoying Jared Leto.
01:04:09
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Like, yeah, I feel like that's the niche he was going to carve out for himself was to have like a little harem of, of like female fans that he brainwashed and abused, but like just didn't pan out. He's too annoying.
01:04:23
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Yeah. I mean, these allegations against him too are horrifying. And, you know, so he... Yeah. And there's a lot. i We talk about this here good bit, specifically in relation to Trump. But like, when you... Once you have, you know...
01:04:42
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25 to 30 sexual assault allegations against you, you don't even need, you don't need need a trial. You just like, you just pick one and you say guilty because you're like, you're, you're 100% guilty of at least one when there's this many allegations. Like it's impossible not to be like, you're likely guilty of every single one of them. Because as we talked about last week, like the whenever a woman comes forward about stuff like this, people go, you, Oh, that, Like they act like it's to their advantage. Like they're just trying to take money from like, I want to see, like, I just want to see on paper, every single person who's ever laid out accusations against somebody of status and how well it's worked out for them, because it almost always works out very badly. Right.
01:05:27
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You don't get your money. you they destroy They character assassinate you. They try to ruin your life. They stalk you. They scare the shit out of you. They park people outside of your house to make you terrified. like It's nuts. These people do crazy shit to try to get away with their crimes. and it's ah that that That age-old plot line of just blaming people for trying to like take the money of the successful is just pathetic. It's not...
01:05:55
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You did it. You just fucking did it. Like it does kind of follow the Dan Carlin rule of like, you know, quantity quality over quantity, but quantity has a quality all its own.
01:06:06
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Yeah. yeah Well, we'll see. Yeah. So this trial is, is scheduled for June of 2026 for Russell brand, but I wonder if it would be will be televised like, uh, like some other celebrity trials. I hope so. I don't know, but I think it'll probably go on for a little while. And, uh, I'm sure it'll get a lot of attention, but it'll just be interesting to watch him amp up his involvement in with TP USA and, you know, his posts about how he's transform been transformed by the love of Jesus. You know, it's just. Well, that absolves you of your former friends. No more accountability. Right.
01:06:42
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I hope he's representing himself. I could totally see him representing himself, right? dude Just him doing the Delmar O'Donnell speech from O Brother Wartow. He's like, neither God nor man's got nothing on me now. Come on in, boys. The water's fine. He wears half of it. He like goes like kind of like, just gets like... ah you know, half of his suit is like orange jumpsuit and the other half is like suit and tie. And then he's got his hair like half up in a ponytail on one side and down on the other. And he just kind of flips from back and and forth side to side so he can play all characters, you know, put on his ah really, really stretch acting chops, like a one man play. Wouldn't put a past him. He's just narcissistic enough to try something like that.
01:07:34
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Well, I have a few that I wanted to throw at you. Yeah. we had Some of these. You've probably heard some of these, but ah maybe not all of them. So there's a couple. i Oh, man, I'm so excited because I feel like ah i feel like Pinhead. I'm like a Cenobite. I'm like, I have such sights to show you. Yeah.
01:07:58
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Okay, so first, this one's a recent one that I've i've enjoyed.

Bizarre Prophecies and Christian Humor

01:08:03
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This is ah Kim Robinson. i don't know if she's a prophet or whatever, but speaking about ah the the the fallen St. Charlie Kirk.
01:08:13
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You know what you know about him, but I saw Charlie this morning, riding on a horse with Jesus and Jesus has given him like a horse ranch. He has a ranch and he has all these animals. And I just feel like Charlie loved horses.
01:08:29
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And right now, with this this morning, you know, he was on his he was on these horses and he was riding in his horse ranch with Jesus. And I'm just like, isn't that amazing? I like the wow in the background. Wouldn't it be funny if he hated animals? He probably did He's just like, Kim, you know, that sounds more like something you would want. Right. Yeah.
01:08:57
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I was, I... Having a good time. yeah I was hoping for a bacta tank full of semen.
01:09:06
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That's my heaven. i Just hearing... Can you guys think of like anything worse than your legacy being obliterated by a horse girl talking about what you're having experiences like? but ah i've i've I've known two horse girls. One is actually...
01:09:28
Speaker
I don't know her well, but decent person actually like the old, but there was one I knew growing up in youth group. And this is a kind of like one of the youth leaders we were, this is on a missions trip to Jamaica, I think is where we were at the time.
01:09:47
Speaker
and It was well known that this girl was a horse girl. She liked to bring up horses in a lot of conversations and, This guy got sick of it. This is the kind of, it's not, I actually hadn't really considered that it was a terribly mean thing to do to a child until right now, but I stand by this man and I would be a, I would, I would be a character representation for him in court. need be So let's get that out of the way.
01:10:13
Speaker
But she was talking about something and he was just like, Oh my God, have I told you how much I love horses? And, Every time she tried to say anything, he would just talk about horses and probably went on for like five, six minutes, you know, nothing crazy. And she laughed along and then he stopped doing it when she clearly wasn't having fun with it anymore. So he knew the time more or less to stop, but that's a core memory for me in youth group is just youth leader making fun of horse girl.
01:10:50
Speaker
I enjoy these like prophesying people though, because it's kind of like somebody telling you their dream where you're like, july I know you think this is interesting, but God, it's not like,
01:11:04
Speaker
feel like And then I woke up in this area and I don't know where I was. It was like it was like my house, but it like it wasn't my house. It was kind of like a baseball field that I visited in 1986. But like they were in the dugout. But it was like I knew it was my house, even though it didn't look anything like it. And my mom was there, but she didn't look like my mom either. And you're like, I don't I have no interest in hearing. Yeah.
01:11:31
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Oh boy. So yeah, that's Kim Robinson. Kim Robinson. um Prophetess. Kim ros kim Robinson. Prophetess. The Reverend Kim Robinson. um This one.
01:11:43
Speaker
ah So this is almost sort of a favor us playing this one. This is a friend of the show. Lift with Christ. so you I remember these guys.
01:11:54
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he is He has messaged me several times asking me to pass along videos to you, hoping that you would share them and he would get trolled into internet stardom. He's asking for that. Really? Yeah, he does.
01:12:10
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And it's interesting because he assuming, ah who I want to compare him to like Chris Pratt's character in ah Parks and Rec.
01:12:23
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right where it's just kind of like you don't know what's going on really, um but you're nice. You're nice. You seem like a nice guy. You're not the brightest guy. You're just kind of a meathead, and he's just impervious to how other people view him or feel about him, and that's what makes me think of the Parks and Rec character is...
01:12:47
Speaker
um the parks and rec character is ah It's just like the him wanting to send you the videos and asking us to do it on multiple occasions, knowing like that people think it's goofy is like he doesn't care. He's just like, I just I need to build an Internet brand.
01:13:04
Speaker
That's it. low inputs industry No, but we know that's what I mean, that's the simplicity of the conversation we're having. Right. You guys interviewed him, didn't you? Yeah. That was the one time we got a bunch of shit from people too. Really?
01:13:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. They were like, you platformed a Nazi. All right. Well, but are they still doing his thing? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So here's his, uh, here's his latest, uh, he tries a lot of things out.
01:13:35
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Um, you gotta respect the grind and the commitment to a bad ga gag. I don't have to, but. Excuse me. Yeah. What makes Halloween demonic?
01:13:47
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are clearly demonic traits. And the only way to combat that is by getting jacked and lifting weights because God has plan for every man to be jacked and tanned.
01:14:15
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What that doesn't convey is how much spit he came out of his mouth. yeah Can you send me that video? yeah I'm not saying I'm going share it, but i won't like I'll get it to you. He, he does a lot. he He's let, I mean, he did some rhyming there, so he's still trying to be in the game adjacent, but he's not that he's not, they don't do like the go to churches and do the rap thing anymore. I don't think, um,
01:14:44
Speaker
but he's really trying hard to get like this, like Jim bro, Christian Jim bro yeah page off the ground. Everything's type swolly gains in the comments. He, he put, um, he posted a a bunch of stuff with him meeting, um,
01:15:01
Speaker
Hulk Hogan Hulk Hogan. Yeah. You know, this Christian stand up. Wonderful man. Hulk Hogan. The guy. No, no, no skeletons in his closet. Hulk Hogan. He did a little like he's he's made a couple of songs that are like Christian raps about lifting weights. You know, it's the same type stuff.
01:15:20
Speaker
And he in the in the music video for one of it, I think it was like the last song you put out, but he had a video of him like meeting Hulk Hogan. And so when he would post it, he would type like like Swoley Gaines Christian rap featuring Hulk Hogan.
01:15:45
Speaker
Hulk Hogan agreed to be part of this. Yeah, like he was going to spit some bars on it. And he's retired from music for several years, you know. Have you ever heard his ah his album?
01:15:58
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I don't Hulk Hogan's. I don't think I have. Yeah. So he he put out a rap album in the 90s that was kind of like, I guess, targeted at kids or whatever, but it's just about being fit and this and that and the other. It's very hokey, like white people's version of rap in the 90s, you know?
01:16:17
Speaker
and But he he has a song on it that's like a real, like, you know, somber contemplative track called Hulkster in Heaven. Oh, wow. it's about a kid. And afterwards, it's like this whole the whole story came out. and he's like The story's a total like fabrication, basically. But it's supposedly about a true story about a kid who was like a make-a-wish kid who had cancer. And his last wish was to... be at WrestleMania and see Hulk Hogan.

Hulk Hogan and Entertainment Oddities

01:16:48
Speaker
And and it's a the story is like him being on stage and he's rapping and stuff about, you know, like meeting this kid there and he looked into the stand and there's an empty seat.
01:16:59
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Cause there's a little Hulkster in heaven that it's so good. Oh man.
01:17:10
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oh man I know what I'm looking up right after this. So, so lifted Christ is really like, really just kind of following those footsteps between the, the rap and the,
01:17:23
Speaker
lifting and the that's really interesting i forgot about the hulk hogan album um he's on that route the next logical step in his career if he's trying to mimic hulk hogan is to drop a very public n-bomb yeah yeah that's and parcel with hulk hogan uh cn did you um See, I saw some stuff going around about Vanilla Ice playing for a bunch of fuddy-duddy Republicans singing Ice Ice Baby.
01:17:53
Speaker
i Did you see that one? At Mar-a-Lago, right? Yeah, that's right. I think it was New Year's Eve. It was like, so you're watching people like try to kind of sing along and they're just like arms around their partner and they're just like, yeah, barely lifting their fists in the air. They're like ice, ice, baby. Even though it was kind of stiff and awkward and.
01:18:18
Speaker
ah Until they sense that the camera's on them and then they kind of do a. Yeah. Yeah. And Christy Noem kind of, I think, didn't she sing into the camera? I think she did. I think that's who that was. Yeah. Yeah.
01:18:29
Speaker
Like, I sent that one to Casey, and i was just I was, like, mad about it at the time. Like, this is so... like it, it's crazy that they all like all 25 of them just gather around the stage for this guy. And they, they're like, yeah, this is so funny. Like, this is so cool. Like there it's just to be that lame, to be that, yeah to be that unfunny, to know, to have no understanding or concept of self-awareness. muburger And yeah, it's self-aware. It's like,
01:19:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's ice, ice, baby. hu like it's so It's so bad. It's so bad. like, we're silly and fun. It's pathetic, yeah. Dude, Stephen Miller, the next thing you know, he's got ah he's got a ah finger mustache tattoo. He's popping into videos.
01:19:19
Speaker
i saw I saw a Nick Mullen clip the other day, and he was like he's like, yeah, anytime you see a millennial that has a missing finger, you have to assume that that was them removing a finger mustache tattoo. yeah Okay, so um this is another one. i'm sure you I'm sure you heard this one, but this is Dee Pruitt. She's like kind of a crazy lady that sings songs.
01:19:46
Speaker
I'm not sure. is not Oh, yeah. Tesla is an American company. Praying peace, prosperity, and protection in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Yeah. Holy flame retardant. Satan is the enemy seeking to kill still and destroy our country.
01:20:18
Speaker
Just ours. No, he already got the other ones. Yeah, that's yeah there's that's a fair point in and of itself there. and All the other ones have fallen. The only country ordained by God. The only other country okay ordained by God. Yeah, I definitely remember that video. I just put that on my my um most ridiculous Christian nightmares of 2025 list that I put out the other day.
01:20:41
Speaker
Yeah. That was a good one. You got to see that video too. Because she just looks... She looks exactly like the lady that taught junior church on Wednesday nights when I was a kid.
01:20:52
Speaker
Yeah. She was like an old lady with a guitar and she would sing, you know, like, ah she had a whole list of like weird songs that I never heard any other church sing.
01:21:03
Speaker
Like, did you guys ever have to sing I'm a Happy Christian Cowboy? No. She'd like strum her guitar and

Nostalgic Reflections on Childhood Church Activities

01:21:11
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like I'm a happy Christian cowboy going down that winding trail. I'm a happy Christian cowboy going home. Yeehaw.
01:21:18
Speaker
Oh, nice. i Songs. I definitely did some Christian songs with yeehaws in them. Oh, and hand motions. Oh, yeah. Oh, VBS. I was like, ah that was.
01:21:31
Speaker
that when you, there's that age that you hit where you're like, you still kind of want to do VBS, but you also like, are like, i want to do it mostly probably because you're old enough at that point where there's a girl you like in it, but they, but you're not old enough where they don't make you stop doing hand motions in front of the entire church. Yeah. Singing the dumbest songs yet. And you're like, and wide. Yeah.
01:21:56
Speaker
You have to like really weigh the risk and reward of looking like a total fucking idiot as like a 12 year old in front of the entire church and like hoping that you get to hold a girl's hand or have someone say that they like you.
01:22:11
Speaker
i had my mom hosted the vacation Bible school at our house. At your house? that's ah That's special. And I had to invite all the kids in the neighborhood. so copy rock yeah yeah yeah was That was her way of trying to keep you a virgin. Yeah, it worked. Do you remember any of the like games or anything that you guys played?
01:22:38
Speaker
I forget. I just remember, was a long time ago, but I remember those, do you remember those like felt boards? Oh, yeah. The flannel graph. Yeah, the flannel graph. i just remember those. and what were some of the games? I don't even... I know i must have blocked it out. But it was the songs. That's traumatizing to have to invite all the kids in your neighborhood. Yeah, it sucked. It really sucked.
01:22:59
Speaker
We played balloon volleyball, atomic sit up. Balloon volleyball. volllleyball yeah

Unusual Motivations and Prophecies

01:23:08
Speaker
Okay. This is a recent one ah from an old favorite of the show, Pastor Hank Kuhneman. Oh yeah.
01:23:16
Speaker
They say you have seized Venezuela for the oil. Yes, this is true. that there is that which has been brought to the forefront of this kind of like Mr. Mackey from South Park. Very wordy, but but the enemy is sought because seeking to bring war and to bring conflict through Venezuela and to control the oil of the earth.
01:23:47
Speaker
Satan wants control oil oil. Satan's active. Oh, that's we're worried about. 2001 again.
01:24:05
Speaker
andre with two thousand and one a again says the lord The one world order. First of all, that's kind of what we're trying to do at this point. At least a one word one hemisphere order, you know, that they're really hard on for these hemispheres right now.
01:24:22
Speaker
love how Hank Kuhneman just kind of he talks slowly like he's getting the direct message right there, you know? yeah i went tune in the anananna Yeah. He lost signal for a second there when he was like, this is true of that which is in this earthly war. Yeah. Did you notice his collar in that video? Cause it's massive. Yeah. What is that? Absolutely massive. It makes me think of um that scene in scary movie three, when they get pulled over by the sheriff.
01:24:51
Speaker
And every time this the camera cuts back to the sheriff, the brim on her hat is bigger. and hip i It's like, I want to see that with his collars where eventually they're just like a vampire collar where it's just that cone that encompasses your face.
01:25:10
Speaker
Got a real anime cloak going on. He's so stupid. Of course, the classic Hank Kuniman. Oh, yeah.
01:25:24
Speaker
That's right. claim to fame. He's not far from me. He's in a he's in like Lincoln, Nebraska or something like that. man. Or Oklahoma? or Nebraska or Oklahoma? Yeah. Yeah.
01:25:35
Speaker
Yeah, we could visit. Next time you come out, Sam, we should go visit. Yeah, there's probably a couple good ones in your area. Oh, boy. Okay, so ah I think this is the last one I had for you here, but this one, I don't know who this guy is. Okay. He's ah he's a college baseball player.
01:25:55
Speaker
And you got to kind of think of it. Think of like, ah you know, a double digit iq college bat baseball player. And he's got a flat brim on that's like two sizes too small. So it looks like it's pinching his head like an eggplant. And he's got the hair sticking out underneath it. Yeah. Got the little baseball mustache that all those guys grow right now. But he's talking about what, you know, what's his inner fire for baseball? What what motivates him to play baseball? And he had a he had an interesting answer.
01:26:25
Speaker
My dad and I turned to him and i said i know why I want to play the game of baseball. He goes, oh yeah why? I want to play the game of baseball because of the millions of kids who were aborted in their mother's womb.
01:26:39
Speaker
I'm sure at least one of them would have loved to play the game of baseball. At least one of them. Or do what I'm doing at this point really anything. So that's why I play the game of baseball. That's why I play the game of baseball. I... I first thought he said boarded.
01:26:58
Speaker
Well, every time he says game of baseball, he misses one more syllable. Let let me tell you, I really figured out the reason why I play a game baseball.
01:27:10
Speaker
like like His tongue was swelling up as he was talking. Like, Like one of those fish in Alaska when you reel it in too fast, you know, and the swim bladder pops out like that's what was happening to him right there. His has made a big leak chew.
01:27:28
Speaker
he's like I know why. i ah I know why. For all the aborting babies. it's It's when you're trying so hard to make a connection something.
01:27:38
Speaker
it is like, it's like when you're in youth group ah and someone asks you like, and it's, it's like when I was in youth group and I was being grilled on why I joined a band that wasn't a Christian band. Like, Oh, you know, there's a lot of, just like connected to the first Christian thing you can think of. So people get off your back. You can reach more souls this way.
01:28:01
Speaker
Yeah, I'm just trying to reach more souls than the guys in the band. They're like really close to they never the that they're pretty close to accepting Christ as the person Lord Savior. and i did then yeah It's really a witnessing opportunity. think it's funny. Like you see it with him. You see it with like the the lift with Christ guy and stuff is like it's almost like an extension of the millennial problem of like, well, anything that you're interested in, you need to monetize.
01:28:26
Speaker
Yeah. Like, oh, you like to knit? You should knit and sell it and that's where should Yeah, you can't have hobbies anymore. Yeah, like you have to turn it into something in the church, though, you have to turn it into a ministry. So like you can't just like fishing. You have to be a fisher of men and a fisher of fish somehow. they correspond And it's like you do it by making fishing YouTube videos, but then like sharing a Bible verse at the end or something. that' correct like This is now a ministry now.
01:28:54
Speaker
It also allows you to start a GoFundMe for your bar or whatever. great.
01:29:05
Speaker
Well, i think ah I think we're in for another banner year for nightmares. I mean, I feel like... yeah yeah I'm glad you're not sick of it yet because they're not sick of you. They they like they need they need the platform. They're all lift with Christing it, you know? I didn't say I wasn't sick of it.
01:29:22
Speaker
Yeah, there's no shortage. But yeah, I feel... Yeah. I mean, we're what, how many days, eight days into the new year? And it's already, I mean, it already feels like it's been six months, but it's horrifying that it's been only a year under this regime. Like ah know one year, one fucking year. It's been my, everything's turned grayer on my face since i know January of last year.
01:29:50
Speaker
Yeah. I'm going to keep doing it, but, um, Yeah, I hope things get better, but I'm not confident at all that they will. so We need you. You've trained your whole life. for This is like your World Series. This is like you're in you're in the capsule doing push-ups. You're about to go fight Frieza.
01:30:06
Speaker
I don't want to. I really don't want to be in the world. I don't. know Yeah, but I'm, yeah, I'm going to, like I said, i it's cathartic to a certain degree. So, and I feel, i do, I don't take myself too seriously, but I do think it is important to to push back on this stuff and to call it out.
01:30:27
Speaker
I and think it is important. more important, you know, and I mean, especially on a daily basis, all the gaslighting that's going on. Yeah. what's I think now, yeah, like you said, the gaslighting is severe and consistent and constant. um And I actually thought about this, like, I remember before I had like woken up to the fact of how bad things were in, especially in evangelical Christianity, where there was, like I would get that feeling still, right?

Hypocrisy in Evangelical Christianity

01:30:57
Speaker
Where people would be like,
01:30:59
Speaker
would post something bad about it and act like that was most of it, like mostly the thing. And i'd be oh, well, come on. There's a lot of people doing a lot of and then like, what it it and sure, we you could really try to like split the difference if you wanted to. But one of doing this podcast and especially starting to like, especially this past year, even where it's like,
01:31:22
Speaker
um in like these groups where the the people who rage out the hardest against sexual malfeasance, sexual predators, who think that all the Democrats are running a like a pedophile ring, blah blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, now we see that and it's in the conservative government.
01:31:42
Speaker
And then you go on, like I said, we'll, go through like pastors who've been arrested and have multiple a day, multiple a day posts like ah shared on Reddit of just a Christian pastor slash teacher arrested for child sex abuse material. Every, if you can just scroll for hours and hours and hours and find that every single day, multiple pastors are arrested for this stuff. And you just start to realize that like, yeah, Yeah, it's actually just, it feels mostly bad. And I know I'm filling my so time and space with that. But like when when that many leaders who are speaking out against a thing that they're getting arrested for consistently across the country and across the world,
01:32:29
Speaker
It's just like there's something there's something incredibly wrong with what's happening and how it's how it's actualizing. And I'm not saying you can't still be Christian and find a meaningful way to have that work in your life and and spur you on to do great things. Like I'm not inherently against religion or finding religious like meaning through religion, whatever one that may be. But we're scams.
01:32:57
Speaker
yeah But the grift is too heavy and too strong in the cope in the, the, I accuse you of what I'm doing is just so it's just, it's over the top now where it's really hard to like give anything the benefit of the doubt.
01:33:15
Speaker
Yeah, these aren't just occasional things that happen. and They become kind of the norm. you know Dan Savage, i don't know if you know who he is. he's a ah He's had a um a sex advice column for a long time and he's a blogger and really smart guy. But he had this thing called Youth Pastor Watch.
01:33:35
Speaker
where he was was almost what you guys are doing, like on a weekly or um every other day basis past posting about youth pastors that have gotten arrested, usually for sexual abuse.
01:33:46
Speaker
um And it just the list goes on forever, you know, and he he says something like, you know, if if kids got molested or sexually abused at a Denny's as often as they do, you know, in a church, and I forget, he says something that people would stop going to Denny's, you know, There'd be no more. There'd just be no more Denny's. right be Yeah. but yeah No more moons over Miami.
01:34:09
Speaker
yeah moods over ah Yeah, well, I think, man, thank you for, ah go ahead, Casey. Well, lasts thought I just, you know, I want to finish on a positive note here. So I think let's, let's play some words of wisdom from one of our most, you know, the really like the, the, the matriarch of ah of America at this point.
01:34:33
Speaker
Rosie O'Donnell. And I rest easy in knowing that he's sovereign, but he's just. And so let the Lord handle that. That's the first time I've ever heard someone say anything like that in my 37 years of living in this earth and being related to Christianity. Interesting. Yeah.
01:34:53
Speaker
What a way to end it, Casey. that' a jolley lady He's sovereign and he's love, but he's just, yeah but he does love your or everything, but he doesn't always let you know that he knows everything. There's just a lot going on there and we'll just use the words we need to, to get you to shut the fuck up and sit down and say, amen It is just in sovereign will. He let my husband's neck explode on national TV.
01:35:19
Speaker
We didn't talk about Erica Kirk. That's one of the greatest grips. That was. Oh, that's it. Yeah, that's it. just watched... ah i just It was such generic speech, I wasn't able to really connect it to one individual.
01:35:34
Speaker
She was talking to the greatest journalist of our time, Barry Weiss. but ah okay I just watched all dogs go to heaven for the first time in a long time. And I can't help but think that maybe that predicted the fall of TPUSA in a way like Charlie was floating through the clouds trying to turn his watch back and it just didn't pan out.
01:35:56
Speaker
Yeah. i Let that be a lesson with all. Cartoon dogs need to be able to smoke cigars in Disney movies again. Yeah.
01:36:05
Speaker
yeah Thanks for lighting it up, Sam. yeah Well, thanks so much for joining us, man. It's always good hanging out. Yeah, likewise. Thank you guys for having me on again. Really appreciate it.
01:36:19
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Is there anything you want to promote that you got coming up or anything like that?

Promotion of Christian Nightmares' Substack

01:36:24
Speaker
Not really. I guess maybe just um I've been posting a lot on Substack. um So for the more kind of ridiculous, absurd stuff, it's you know Instagram and other social media platforms. And then more kind of, I've been focusing more on ah like Christian nationalism and, you know, effect on current politics and what's going on in America on my Substack. So Yeah, if you feel like it, you can check that out. And if you want to subscribe, that would be great too.
01:36:54
Speaker
But yeah, that's about it. That's what I got going on right now. Awesome. Well, everybody go follow. Everybody already follows Christian Nightmares, but one of the greatest pages on Instagram. And thank you for listening, folks.
01:37:10
Speaker
See you next time.