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Ep. 250 – Do You Want a Revolution?! WHOOP WHOOP w/ Spencer Bland
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EPISODE 250!!! It’s crazy to think we’ve been doing this show for almost 5 years… We’ve met so many great people and had so many interesting conversations over the last half a decade! And what better way to celebrate 250 episodes than with our friend, comedian Spencer Bland. Spencer has moved to LA, and he’s pursuing a career in standup comedy full force. We talk about life in LA, the slow radicalization of Sam, and get into some r/christiandatingadvice and “pastor arrested” stories that made us laugh. We hope you enjoy the show, and thank you so much for listening over the years!
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TikTok DM from Snake Eyes Official
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I would love, you know, it's funny. I got a, I got a DM from something that is so obviously bait the other day on Tik TOK from an account called snake eyes official.
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don't if you guys can see that. Oh yeah. o I saw some emojis in there. was Oh yeah. Hands emojis. Yeah. And they're black prayer hands. So, you know, it's good. Um, and it says, hello, would you like to help us? We are snake eyes and we have a discord server for people who want revolution, but spelled with like numbers, like R three V zero L you know, Lee. Yeah.
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Yeah. ah hu And we're going to find more people who are like us. We're going to find people like us all around America and other countries. Please join us. We also find products for other people to use and for people to be helped and for products that help the environment.
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We also try to fund anti-fascist news stations to broadcast. And we are pro-LGBTQ, anti-fascist, pro-trans, and pro-disabled people. And then, and then, and a totally separate sentence and pro choice.
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ah Was it, we would really, my ai I think so. We would really like your help. Well, hold on. This isn't like broken English. We would really like for your, to help us in and your cause. You don't have to, but it would be nice.
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And then the invite link to the discord server. And I just responded with the, uh, the GIF of Tom Hardy from, uh, ah fuck the Mad Max movie where he goes, that's bait.
Celebrating 250 Episodes with Spencer Bland
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yeah You should clicked the link. You should donate. I think they sound like they're doing a lot of really important
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Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And today, for the episode 250... Which is nuts. 250 episodes. We've been... 250 episodes a lot of our time. We are joined two hundred and fifty episodes a lot of our time we are joined by Our friend, friend of the show, Spencer Bland. Thanks so much for joining us, Spencer.
Political Humor and Critique
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Such a special occasion.
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I know. Reporting live from socialist New York City. Oh, the new socialist republic of New York. i Yeah, psych, I'm in neoliberal Los Angeles.
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Oh, dude, Gavin Newsom, though? Have you heard about him? Yeah. I hear he's such a loser. He's so cringe and stuff. one of my favorite meme, he like ah made like insulin affordable a few weeks ago. Yeah. One of my favorite memes is like there are two wolves inside of Gavin Newsom and one wants like working class families to do well. And the other one wants to light homeless people on fire.
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Gavin Newsom, such a he is a weird character. I don't i he's he. received It's the level of hatred he receives, I think, is bizarre. like He's a mixed bag for sure. He's nothing.
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Yeah. He's whatever he needs to be in the moment. That's why he's straight. He's straight poop Pete Buttigieg. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. ah And even listening to like, i don't like listening to his tone. He sounds like not a real person.
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No, he sounds like. ah He there's a particular character, like a sketch comedy character, like the straight man in something where like he just.
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like he the the sub The subtle ways he blows smoke up his ass, stuff like that, it's just kind of like... off-putting but i mean he's the t1000 if he was a politician like he's just very much yeah did you guys see the clips of him he was on a podcast with a couple of black hosts the other day oh hell yeah he turned it up did he really oh he's like called him brother a lot i was young i was just it's just straight hustling you know making oh god i was out you know he tried to code switch dude he's like
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His hand motions and stuff are so just off. But he's like, you know, I'm in the basketball or i'm into I'm in the backyard and I'm just bouncing the basketball. brutalodle i got I'm sitting in front of the TV. i got the I got the stack of Wonder Brett. It's like you can tell he's just like um making up legends for himself. oh yeah like when Did he come dressed like he was an extra in an old Will Smith music video?
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Yeah. It's like when Hillary Clinton was like, here's the one thing I keep in my bag. It's hot sauce. I don't know you guys remember that. I'm trying to get you to Pokemon go to the polls. She was, uh, she was on it maybe was it one Oh six and park, but it was like ah but it was like a radio. it was like a very like popular radio show up in, I want to say like Harlem.
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And, uh, they were asking her they're like, what's, they're like, what's, what's in your bag? Like, what are your like items? She always carry around. and she's like, well, you know, I always keep this thing on me. And she pulls out like some Texas Pete and they all were like, mm-hmm, okay.
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Like... this right i love it when ah when politicians go on The Breakfast Club and and try to do that stuff in front of Charlemagne. Yeah, yeah wait I can't. Wait, I think it was The Breakfast Club now that I think about it. No, i It's just... I feel like we're moving past that era of just...
00:05:24
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everything's a plant. Uh, like we've had so many phony politicians for so long. Like we yeah knew Hillary was phony. We knew kamala we knew joe like they're all like it's just phony ass bullshit you're not real people like you don't have a real personality i feel like if or if you do you're not allowed to show it and if you do it's probably not good like you because you're just that that desire to be in charge of shit is like you the the amount of people who think
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It's any job. it It's cops. It's running for office. It's just being the fucking manager of a local retail chain. like yeah just It's anything that makes you feel like you are...
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the boss, like that change, that changes who you are. It's like, you ever try to go out with your boss? Have you ever gone out? Like Casey, it's a little different for you. I got some stories. You can like your boss.
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um ah I worked for a company, a retail company, local in Boston, great company, great boss, a great owner. i still, we still check in here and there.
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Yeah. Like there's something weird in general about going out with your boss because it's like at the end of the day, like it's like, well, it's my company. Like I can do what I want.
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You can, it just, it feels weird to let loose. So when you're like around, And they can't let loose. Like it's weird. It's cause what I don't want to see is like my boss get like drunk off his ass and make weird jokes. Like you go, I don't know.
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This, this guy's a degenerate like me. ah Why, why is he in charge? You know, like you got partition some shit in life and it can be a bummer if you're like, you know, but we all know that boss who like wants his employees to love him is the worst boss.
00:07:25
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Oh, for sure. So anyway, I'm like, These are sweeping generalizations. Anyway, congrats on 250 episodes, guys. Yeah.
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That is pretty wild. Yeah, thanks, man. That's what, five years worth of, or almost five years worth of podcasts? Yeah. Coming up on it, yeah. Yeah. It's um in, jeez, I don't even want to know how many hours.
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And in in those five years, how many times have you guys hung out in person? want Once. Once. That's still so crazy to me. They came to visit one time. ah That's wild.
00:07:59
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It was a great time. I feel like we're due for another. Yeah, it was really fun. I took him to my local Lunatic Maga bar. Oh, hell yeah. It was nice. 2,000 mules on the TV while we ate like cow testicles. Yeah, good food. Yeah, what are they called? Texas oysters? What are they called?
Reality TV and Real-Life Challenges
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Rocky Mountain oysters? Rocky Mountain oysters. ah yeah Some cowboy caviar. Yep. Horrific. Cowboy caviar. It doesn't, it's not, that's not, it's hard for me to believe people buy those two because they genuinely enjoy them as an appetizer.
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Like it feels like for people like me who came from out of town, like, oh, I got to try this. That's hilarious. But it's, people do actually like cut them up. and enjoy them.
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It's like bumper stickers are like buying a joke that you can tell over and over and over again. and eating Rocky mountain oysters is you're just literally eating a joke. Okay. yeah So people are having fun with it. Like it's not a lot of general enthusiasts of like the texture and the flavor.
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I've actually never had them and I don't ever plan to cause I'm not gay. Um, yeah, yeah. and you get well And I am now. Casey and I are a little bit now. Just a little bit. and That's how we figured out Sam wasn't because he took one little nibble and he goes, he burst into flames.
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i can I can actually guarantee you I would have an easier time putting a human male penis in my mouth than another Rocky Mountain oyster. Yeah, I can. Yeah. as Speaking of someone who who's done that, it's yeah, it's not that hard.
00:09:42
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Whereas I feel like, whereas I feel like eating, eating a ah bull testicle, probably not so good. I don't know. You guys remember, you guys remember before Joe Rogan was destroying society. He used to run fear factor.
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Yeah. Yeah. wash all They used to eat shit like that all the time and it looked terrible. Now I know it's probably uncooked, but still. Yeah, that show was yeah that was a fantastic show. That was like the first my first like foray. We didn't have YouTube, people doing gross shit. like That was a lot of our first experiences with like watching people eat fucking nasty ass shit. Yeah, back when they had that. and whatever some other good What was the fucking taxi cab show where you could like win money?
00:10:19
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Cash Cab. Yeah, Cash Cab. Yeah. um I was talking, I was trying to explain the wonders of, um why why am I blanking on the name? ah Survivor.
00:10:34
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Oh. To a coworker who's like 12 years younger than me. Dude. And he's like, what's it? Survivor's back? I was like, I used to talk.
00:10:46
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I used to talk daily to my wife whoa wanting to get on that show. I have a friend who like tries every year. Yeah. It would be so cool. I think I'd be good at it. the game It's a game. I think I'd be good at it. It's fun. Here's my thing. Dude, hate it. No. Why would I hate it? Because you don't like being outside.
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But I like... I like outside. what if you have to eat a testicle? ah You don't. point. You don't. I've watched plenty of that show. It's not about eating those things. haven't watched it since the first season, but it's it's still going, so it must they must be doing something right.
00:11:23
Speaker
I haven't watched it in like 12, 13 years. what i want to be on most extreme elimination. i want to That actually sounds fun. i can think show I think Survivor, rather than putting them on a desert island, they should just ah give them a minimum wage job in America.
00:11:41
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Yeah. And say, and say, survive. Yeah. It's, it sucks because, um, somehow that's like, that's less fun than starving. I know. Right. Then like having to get along with people.
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Yeah. Uh, yeah. No, I found that game to be really interesting. I thought the way it was all worked together was how everyone at the end votes for the last two people. So it's like, you got to just really... You got to...
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way how cutthroat you're going to be because if you stab everyone in the back then you dont you automatically cut yourself out of a million dollars also I like that game shows over the past
Spencer Bland's Comedy Journey in LA
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20 years still have a million dollar prize haven't really shifted on that a million dollars isn't that great anymore it's sad to say That's like the target for my retirement.
00:12:33
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The average home in Massachusetts, $600,000 to live. That's the yeah target for my retirement to like live like meagerly. Like, yeah. Not like oh I'm set for life. That's like, can spend like 50 grand a year. If I can have a million dollars in whatever my account is like,
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And that's like hoping that when you retire, you get that million before the economy completely tanks and that's kind of worth a little bit more. Yeah, it just just puffs into the air. And if you're going to live off a million-dollar retirement, you probably have to retire around the age of like 94, 95 before. Oh, yeah.
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You die before you run out of that money. I don't think any of us are retiring. No, I actually – i I don't even have a 401k. And every time I, the ah last full-time job I had was like over a year ago.
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And they, or wait, no. Yeah, it was about over a year ago. And I remember they're like, do you want to contribute to the 401k? And I was like, no. And the guy, like, it was like a small company. And he like, I really think you should, man. That's not smart. And I was like, brother, I'm not retiring.
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Like, yeah. I don't know how much, you know how much you're about to pay me. So you know how much I can put in. Yeah. You know how old I am and we know where things are going economically. i was like, I need that money now. Yeah. Like, yeah, i need it tied up in pork futures.
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Today.
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Today money is my favorite money. Yeah. yeah It's helpful. It helps a lot. I'm not going to retire. I'm going to lead a war band. um so I was really bad. I had a 401k for when I was working for a private company.
00:14:04
Speaker
Um, I don't know where they switched companies at one point. I never rolled my money over. i have two, two poorly funded 401ks just sitting out there that I don't know how to access.
00:14:17
Speaker
You should find out access. No, it's not hard. mean, every year they send me mail cause I have to claim it on my taxes. So, uh, no you don't. Uh, so I'll find it eventually. But now that I work in a school system, I can't, I get it like 403 But I get a pension. They just send you a letter where it's just it's just ha ha ha ha. Typed out over and over again. however like That would make me feel better about myself.
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Actually, I just cool. That is cool. You get a pension, though. Yeah. So that's so if it exists. But yes, that people say that I think they're pretty well protected um in Massachusetts, at least. Oh, yeah. You're in one of the good states. Yeah. I'm not. I'm like, this is in North Carolina or Georgia. or Yeah.
00:15:01
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You know. any pretty much any red state where they don't, where they have. Yeah. Hate everyone funding of education. But, um, yeah, I had a 401k and then I cash it out to pay for a wedding that doesn't even exist anymore. So I mean, the wedding's still, it's, it's, it's a historical event.
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I will say there, there are two kids who were to my knowledge still alive that were conceived at that wedding. So it pretty fun, pretty fun wedding.
00:15:29
Speaker
Dude. Uh, So what's going on with you, man? you You said you had some life updates. I know you've been wheeling and dealing out there. Yeah. yeah in In California now.
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Speaker
Yeah, I'm officially an Angeleno. me tell you, I don't give a shit about baseball. So that was a a fun weekend ah watching. I actually wanted the Blue Jays to win because I just like anything that makes Donald Trump mad.
00:15:50
Speaker
Yeah. So I didn't even know there was a big baseball game being played. I knew because, ah my like closest friend to a big baseball guy. And then also the, the pitcher for the blue Jays after, um, surprisingly there, I didn't see any, but, uh,
00:16:06
Speaker
I also live in a very hipster part of LA, but, um, weird because Fox news showed your city burning down. cause Oh, it's, Oh, Fox is a show. My city burning down multiple times. I moved here and like the, the ice raids, uh, and riot started, which is great. Cause I immediately, i was like, well, I brought my balaclava. Let's go protest. Like, um,
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Uh, but yeah, I live in LA now. i'm I'm doing comedy full time at least I'm, I'm attempting to it. Boy, is it hard? Um, uh, I think I, I got a, I just did a little ah set for Netflix. So that was cool.
00:16:36
Speaker
Um, really nice yeah, a couple weeks ago, radio, Netflix radio, but still, uh, I remember posting. I didn't, I didn't, that is that like a serious station? Yeah. It's like Netflix. So Netflix is a joke. It's like their comedy arm. and I just did a a set for their, uh,
00:16:52
Speaker
they're like radio recording show. It is, a I had a couple of managers tell me it's a big deal. Um, but it was funny because i I posted about it and people were like, dude, how can I watch? And I was like, oh, there's a little word right there that says radio. Uh, so you won't be able to watch it.
00:17:04
Speaker
Um, ah um Unless you buy a brand new car that comes with Sirius. um Because that's the only way anyone ever gets Sirius in this country. Unless you guys have it. don't know. i The only time I've ever had Sirius in my life is when I bought a new car and I was like, sick. And they sent me mail. They're like do you want to update your subscription? i was like, absolutely not. How do you think that?
00:17:23
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i How do you think that company holds it together i don't know because uh you make a lot of money if you get comedy on serious well a lot is relative but you make a decent amount like i have friends who make like thousands of dollars a month from royalties on serious yeah wow yeah um funny bone yeah so it's very interesting but yeah i'm out in la i'm doing comedy full time that's great i um uh when will this air this week this week this week okay Trying to figure out legally what I can and can't say.
00:17:56
Speaker
um i i have been working. Depends on who finds it and listens to it. I know, right? Well, it's funny because I literally asked them today out because I need to post about it on like, I hate saying this, I need to post about it on LinkedIn ah so I can scrum up some other ah some other work around it. But i I've been working on a ah on a certain TV show ah owned by a certain company that is owned ah ah by a really rich, bald guy.
00:18:24
Speaker
Oh, okay. I don't know that makes it. You're writing season three of Rings of Power? I'm not writing it, but i I can either confirm nor deny that I am helping in some shape or form in the capacity of it.
00:18:37
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ah Yeah. And i you know what I can say? It actually might be pretty good. Not because of me, but i've i've I've seen some things and it looks actually pretty good, which is funny because we're meeting with the client all the time and he's like,
00:18:50
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the guy's like, we just, we got to get people to to understand that it's good this year. And I was like, Hey, what if we just say that?
00:18:57
Speaker
And they, I got to tell you that they didn't like that at all. Um, No, guys, it's just good this year. Take my way for it. I've been doing that, and then um I actually just found out yesterday i had a call with a director. I just got cast in something that ah that ah might be starring Nathan Fielder, so you might see me on the screen with Nathan Fielder at some point. Oh, my raing yeahre That's going to give me a wet dream tonight. Yeah. What...
00:19:24
Speaker
I can't. i I need that to work only so you can tell me what he is actually like. Because it's nobody knows. I don't think anybody knows. and like you You might have to sign an NDA to be in his presence so you don't ruin his joke. I have i have no idea. it's not I will say it's not his project. It's ah it's a it's something that I...
00:19:46
Speaker
submitted to and got cast for. And then I was talking with the director and he was like, yeah, we're actually in talks with these three actors to be in the thing as well. Cause they pushed filming like a month ah to like, like ah meet their schedules.
00:19:58
Speaker
That's all crazy, man. So did you like, how does that, that is such a foreign world to everybody. Like, Oh, you move out to LA and then you have, like you can move in that direction. Like, did you go, did you hire an agent as soon as you got out there? Is this all independent? Like, this is all independent, man. And i trust me, I'm trying to get representation. You can apply for an acting job. Like you can apply for any job.
00:20:22
Speaker
Kind of. Yeah. It was, I mean, it's, it's, it's one of those, it's all about like who, you know, um but the person who cast this project, actually McBride, I got it through McBride. Oh, that's it. Yeah.
00:20:33
Speaker
He, he sent me a friend of his who's a casting agent. And he was like, hey, this sounds like something you'd be good at because they were looking for a comedian specifically. And I submitted for it. And then ah what's funny is I the initial response I got there like, actually, this project isn't going to happen.
00:20:49
Speaker
And I was like, no, it's OK. It's kind of what I expected. And then like a week later, they're like, psych, it's back on. um Yeah. um So, yeah, no, like reboot is what you're saying. ah God, that'd be fucking awesome. psy creep It's Nathan Fielder and I'll be in blackface.
00:21:04
Speaker
um i can I can say that I'm dating a black woman. That's how it works. Yeah. ah No, she would hate me saying that. um But ah no, you can just submit to stuff, man. I actually, I just wrapped up like three months of acting classes because I moved out here and realized that like comedy is slow out here. It's it's crazy because it's like the opportunities you get are in front of decision makers and big people. Like the first the first week I got out here, I did like a recording for this smaller ah like comedy collective.
00:21:37
Speaker
And an agent was there that came like specifically for me um because they like knew me via Instagram and stuff. And they're like, hey, I want to put you on this industry showcase, like to be in front of a bunch of managers.
00:21:49
Speaker
And I bombed the shit out of that industry showcase. They straight up they just did not like me, dude. It was like a rough. Yeah, it was like. That's tough. i i'll say personally it definitely wasn't my best set but i still like gave it my best shot and they just is you know sometimes it was on the west side and i'm learning in l la that the west side is a very tight crowd you know it's like they kind of like they're like like ah ah funny you know like they're not going to like that's a weird thing about comedy in general too is like when it's like a kind of a
00:22:23
Speaker
push and pull of like, yeah when you're bigger and people learn about you or through certain channels, right? Like you, you have fans that want to hear that.
00:22:37
Speaker
Like, but when you're trying to like, trying to make comedy work for a broad audience and from town to town, city to city, state to state, like, There are, you're just like, you do come across audiences that it just isn't. just won't like it. for Yeah. It's just not for them.
00:22:54
Speaker
And honestly, that's what I'm learning. And I'm and like, I've met with three agents now and three managers separately. And it's like every single person has basically just been like, oh, if you, if you get more followers, I'd love to work with you, which makes you want to put a fucking bullet in my head.
00:23:09
Speaker
Dude, I had this conversation with my friend. A couple of all the time where, yeah, it's like bands. So ah we've had some dudes from this band, Tan and Handsome on the the show.
00:23:21
Speaker
Yeah. I love their band. I love it so much. They do not have a huge Spotify following. They are all like care about. That's all they're tight with Gray Haven. Gray Haven's doing their first full, full tour, headlining tour.
00:23:36
Speaker
Grey Haven was trying to get like them ah like to be on a certain leg of that tour. And they just got roadblocked by fucking promoters and whoever's involved in the decision-making around that. And it's like, bands don't even get a say in who they want to help, to who they like. who yeah It's a perfect blend. The band is the right band to open for them. And it's like, now they're just like, it's the same thing. it's like, well, we you know,
00:24:07
Speaker
it used to be labels were like, we think this band is marketable and can, obviously the the labels idea is this band can make us money. for sure We can get this band to make us money because we believe in what they're doing or we don't care what they're doing. We just think it's marketable.
00:24:24
Speaker
Yeah. um And that people will eat that shit up. And now it it is, it's just, Oh, well you don't have enough followers. You go, yeah, your job is to help with that. No, no. Your job is to do all the work.
00:24:36
Speaker
take an advance that you have to pay back and we can just maybe get you on a cool tour. That's not going to do a lot because you're, you know, now you have to, people who don't know you ah don't want to buy a $50 t-shirt. So the venue can take a 40% merch cut.
00:24:51
Speaker
It's like same thing with comedy. I mean, well, not same thing, but like, it's the point now where it's like a manager, an agent, they're like, Oh, I want, I want you to come to me with a hundred thousand followers. So I know that I can sell tickets to a room and scrape 20% off the top of that. And I'm like,
00:25:05
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I met with a manager on Monday and like, she's a nice lady, but it was just a nightmare of a meeting. Cause like, she basically started the conversation by being like, i don't know if I'm going have a job next week, which like that sucks for her. And that's not her fault. Yeah.
00:25:17
Speaker
But at the same time I i was like, oh, so this is hire you. Yeah. i was like, oh, so this is a waste of time. Like, um, and also I just think like personality wise, we probably don't rock too well, but she said the same thing that I've had multiple people tell me where it's like,
00:25:30
Speaker
yeah, you just got to make your own audience and then I'd love to work with you. And it's like, well, if I have my own audience, I'm just going to keep working with myself. Like, you're right. Cause I'm, I've, I've organized a tour. I'm type A enough that I can do that again. Like, so if I have more people, it's like, I need you to, to cause I like right now, like I email clubs or I email people or in LA, I just literally reach out to like people who run shows and they don't give a shit.
Cultural Differences in Comedy
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Cause I'm a nobody who only has like 25,000 followers, even with a Netflix credit.
00:25:56
Speaker
Like they don't care. You have to have like, it's an ever moving goalpost. So it's of the things where I got low key had a little bit of a mental breakdown yesterday about it. And I was like, all right, I'm just gonna fucking do it myself.
00:26:07
Speaker
um And I am, I'm going through a humiliation ritual right now because I'm posting comedy to my social media profiles every day for 30 days. And the algorithm fucking hates that. Let me tell you.
00:26:18
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I went I went from getting like an average of like so every now and then I go like pretty viral and I get like a million views on something like i I've gained like 15,000 followers since I moved down here. I started posting every day. I'm lucky if I get like a thousand views and like 20 likes on something.
00:26:34
Speaker
Dude, yeah, it'll do that. Yeah, but also I don't give a shit. Like it's one of those things where it's like I'm confident in my act. I know I'm funny. I'm fine. Like it's just a thing where it's like I'm just kind of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks now.
00:26:46
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um But yeah, comedy, and outside of that, comedy is still going pretty well. um I actually, I'll be opening for Mark Norman for a few dates in May back in North Carolina.
00:26:57
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oh nice. yes I'm doing a comedy festival in Alaska in April, I think. Alaska? Yeah. Are you going to have Genocidal Dictators offering to... No, no one's no one's reached out. i sorry Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, even even Trump. you know None of them have reached out to ask me to do anything. That's a bummer.
00:27:16
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I keep getting white dudes on my profile asking me if I'll ever be to ah go to Austin, and the answer is is no because I'm a Democrat. I'm not even a Democrat. I feel bad saying that. I'm not a Republican, so I just know that it's not going to go well there. I don't know anyone under 40 that
00:27:35
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would like to ever say they're Democrat. Yeah, it's gross. um But calling yourself a pedophile.
00:27:44
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And then, yeah, I'm going to go do some, I'm going to go do some shows. I'm going to go do some shows in England ah in in February. actually just talked to a guy about that today. So, nice i think things dude yeah things are looking up like i said i moved out here and kind of saw that like acting is a little bit more of a and sorry that comedy is a little more of a slow go so i was like oh i'll get into acting and we'll see where that goes but uh yeah having having fun in la uh moved out here and immediately started dating somebody and we're we're in love so that's fun hell yeah dude yeah and she's not white so my mom loves that yeah um
00:28:18
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Does she offer cool tips? Is there like, um, that she finds on the internet or, uh, she, she does, uh, she does try to, uh, goad me into saying slurs. And I was like, no, I won't. She's like, say it. She'll like take her phone and she's like, say it, say it as a joke.
00:28:33
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Uh, and I'm like, absolutely not crazy. Yeah. I don't, she doesn't mean it seriously. just want say that. like shit's Yeah. It's a bit. We do. Yeah. I can't, I, I always just get bath. I get shocked and surprised when people have the type of like a bantery relationship with their parents.
00:28:50
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Yeah. It's very fun. Um, having, a having like a, a going from note, no shade to my ex-wife, but going from a relationship that was like just deader than a doornail, um, to actually spending time with someone that you want to be around is it's, Hey, you know what? It's fun. And it makes living in a, uh, an extremely vapid and, uh, annoying place, uh, a lot better.
00:29:10
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Yeah. It has to be one of the more vapid locations. Oh, it's wild, dude. There's a guy who does like... Everyone walking around with their phones out in front of them, just like streaming constantly. and i would say it's not that bad. I haven't really seen stuff like that yet. I mean, I don't live in on the West Side, which is like where like more of that like type shit happens. um But it is just like, you can just tell when you talk to people. Their internal monologue is like, okay, what can this person do for me? And if it's nothing, I don't care.
00:29:39
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Yeah, that must be rough, dude. How do I make this about me? Everything's about me. That's tough. Yeah. Having this discussion with a guy, you know, obviously different business for sure. But um there's this guy I know that and I don't really like him very much.
00:29:56
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But he's struggling to find a foothold with a bunch of these customers and he was he was venting to to one of my guys the other day and he was like Yeah, it's just, you know, I'm just not like some of you other guys, you know, like these guys like want to go to dinner and stuff like that. And they all like make small talk and, you know, chit chat and everything. And I just want to talk about business.
00:30:22
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I just want to, you know, that's just me. I just want to talk about business. Like, yeah, you want to, you want to talk about like the thing that helps you get what you want. and yeah Yeah. And people sense that about you and they don't like it.
00:30:33
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like Yeah. Yeah. yeah It's not that everybody else just isn't serious. It's just that you are self-centered and annoying. Yeah, there's a reason people don't spend all day scrolling LinkedIn.
00:30:45
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like yeah i don't I don't know how to make the emails I get from LinkedIn stop, and I haven't logged into it in 15 minutes. Oh, you have to threaten terrorism in one of your posts.
00:30:57
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ah i I got shadow banned on, well, I got i got i got reported, and then I definitely got shadow banned. I got on there, and i was just like, Hey, I mean, in in way more eloquent terms. So I was like, AI is bad and there's a ah rampant rise of fascism in this country and it's wild that no one cares.
00:31:14
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um And I was like, anyway, drink more Ovaltine. um ah And yeah, I got like reported or whatever. That's so cool. love how cool people are.
00:31:25
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My favorite, the the the funniest like social media thing that's happened to me in a while was a couple days ago. i got notified that a strike I had a copyright strike I had on an Instagram reel from 2022 was removed.
00:31:45
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Oh, good. Warner Brothers Music approved my ah my use of Whippet from Devo. Throw it back in the algorithm. Get it back in there. It's going to viral now.
00:31:57
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It was a video of just like ah it was like ah a heron with a lizard in his mouth and he was just like shaking it this park that we were at. Did something happen? AI is good, and it worked.
00:32:11
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Yeah. so It's making all of our lives easier. Everything is it's worth all the water. I did. ah We have these things called Waymo's here in waymo Los Angeles. do Do you guys know what those are? It's like the self-driving cab thing, right? It's a self-driving cab. Uber, i own i think it's owned by so I think it's actually owned by Google. But you know basically, they're like, oh, we're tired of paying people. How can we ah can we get these pours out of here? Yeah.
00:32:38
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And I did, I did betray the working class and I i took one to a party Saturday night just cause I wanted to see. um And it's, it's very fun cause I just get in and I'm just like Waymo initiate gas sequence.
00:32:51
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like I can't – oh, so like it's literally nobody has to drive it at all. Yeah, it's terrifying. and it also I know this. I actually didn't know that that existed yet. I knew it's been – I didn't know you could get into a fully driverless car ah because they're not like on the market to own.
00:33:09
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Yeah. We were – well, I'm not going to implicate myself. ah People were lighting them on fire ah during the protests. Oh, yeah. I support that. they were They were using the app to like order them downtown and then just – And it's just firebombing them. They didn't think that one Which is a chaotic use of AI that I support.
00:33:31
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Yeah, it was very, very funny. Yeah, they're, actually, I don't know. They're Jaguar-owned cars, I think, ah but Google owns the company. bet they're electric, because they could probably plug themselves in and shit, too. I think they are electric, yeah. it's I will say it's it's crazy being one. Those fires gotta be wild.
00:33:47
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Uh, nice electrical fire. Yeah. I mean, dude, that's that's the worst thing you'll. And that's not even the worst thing you'll inhale in LA. It's it's it's a I mean, I love living out here. I'm thankful for it. I genuinely do love LA. I'm like way happier out here.
00:34:02
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um And it's like so rad being out here. But at the same time, there's just like, you know, there's a guy who like absolutely just gives my trashcan the business every night. um And it's like it's not his fault. He clearly is not thinking correctly.
00:34:16
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Um, and you know, the government has failed him to provide him the facilities to treat his mental illness, but he's in love with my trash can and he really loves giving it to it. So you have to hose it down every morning, dude. It is the, we're hosting the Olympics. What? In like a few years and the world cups next year, it is the world cup of homeless people out here. It's wild.
00:34:35
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Like, all the All the best or the worst, depending on your view of it, from every walk of life ah is is featured. And its it's it is frustrating because it just shows the sheer lack of care of humanity in the society.
00:34:48
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um But if you can separate yourself from that, which I think we've all gotten good at doing, and just seeing this tiny sliver of of of ah humor in
Economic Disparities and Political Critique
00:34:58
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it. um My girlfriend told me a story about how she was – the Christians have conquered parts of Los Angeles. We do have Chick-fil-A.
00:35:06
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And there's straw there there's a very popular Chick-fil-A, and she was like, yeah, I was there one day. And literally catty corner across the street, a homeless woman was just on her back with her ankles in the air just masturbating in public.
00:35:18
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No way. What a wild place to raise children. Cause you have to women go in that route. Yeah. Very often. Yeah. It's usually men just furious. You never really see someone actively DJing out there like that. And it was just, just going to town. It was crazy.
00:35:31
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like um But that's the kind of stuff you see out here. And it's a, it is both ah the saddest thing you'll ever see. But again, at the same time, You got to find the humor in it. Otherwise you will just cry every day. um And it is objectively very funny because the fact that someone is just openly masturbating and and ah under under God's watchful eye under the Chick-fil-A sign is crazy.
00:35:51
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Yeah, that's why like we spend so much time, like Casey and I trade Bob Hickman videos back and forth. Because it's like, yeah, this guy is and severely mentally ill, and he is holding hostage probably at least 400 FedEx t-shirts that he will not return to FedEx.
00:36:10
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He's just constantly posting the bottom of his sack sticking out of a FedEx shirt. Yeah.
00:36:19
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Why does FedEx want them back? If they've seen his videos, they should not be asking for their shirts back. You have to bleach them. Schizophrenic people on social media is is ah is unfortunately a gift.
00:36:32
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um I don't there's there's like a ah I assume he's unhoused, but an Asian guy who is just talking about how he's going to kill Elon Musk. I speak. Honestly, let's get this guy a weapon.
00:36:44
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i Dude, wish they for real. um Let's see what happens. I want to test his veros ferocity. for Yeah, i want to test I want to test his conviction. Yeah. yeah ah Yeah, or like, I mean, one of my favorites is just like, I even know they're schizophrenic or if they're just bored old people, but just like having old people who just clearly don't understand how to use a phone, but some but somehow they understand it enough to download TikTok is like one of my favorite things. Yeah.
00:37:12
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I feel like some of them are very religious about posting on TikTok. Like, yeah, because that's all my feed is is schizophrenic. Oh, same or like white trash. And, it's amazing. Like there's certain people that you, you find and you see a video of them like in a highlight or something like that. And then you look at their page and it's an entire, like the entire page is the yeah the same clothes and you're like, Oh, these all came from today. Like 40 videos from today.
00:37:40
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But the algorithm is giving them love. But for some reason I can't post comedy for some reason. That's going to be my, that's actually going to be my next, uh, uh, experiment in December. I'm going I'm going to schizo post every day in December.
00:37:52
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I think if you start using the R word in your reels, that helps these days. I want you so bad. ah that it's ah That's a double-edged sword, man. I know. have be real careful.
00:38:04
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so It's like Ben Solo in whichever bad Star Wars he was in where he's like, I know what i need to do, but i don't know if I have the strength to do it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:13
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And then also in your like audiences, it's like, Oh, these people won't like me unless I keep doing the thing that they make. It's funny. Cause the, the following that I'm their little monkey boy now.
00:38:25
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The following that I have gained is because I've had a couple like political ah posts like blow up, which is frustrating because it's like the only thing that social media ah rewards these days is controversy. um And I see people who follow me or they'll message me, which is very fun, very lovely. Sometimes it's gross.
00:38:40
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um And I just I they message me stuff and like I'm neurotic and that I have to respond to everyone because I hate seeing like a message. notification on my thing. Um, and I, you know, I'll be like, Oh, thank you so much. Or I'll just like like the post or something.
00:38:55
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But then I'm also in my head. I was like, man, if they like were in any of my group chats with my friends, they would hate me.
00:39:04
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I really enjoy posting, uh, depraved comments to, uh, like Tik TOK marketplace. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Recently found this lady. I showed Sam that, that she is constantly trying to sell a, uh,
00:39:20
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Like this, it's like an $8 necklace with a little square pendant with a cross on it. amazing And she's like, every time I go out, I get so many compliments on this necklace. And I just, I'm representing Jesus with it.
00:39:36
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Lovely. If you already, I know some of you already have one of these, but they're going fast and you're going to need to give a gift in the future. And she's a good gift. Oh my God. It's just, it it's, they lay it on so thick.
00:39:49
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Yeah. my so I love just saying something completely like bizarre in their comments. And they have no idea how to handle it. Yeah. It is wild. I, the last full-time job I had was I was actually working for a Tik TOK brand.
00:40:03
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Um, and was like, yeah, it was, it was kind I, know trying do i have have i signed an in d I don't give a shit. They, those dudes are sociopaths and they suck. Um, it was called sud scrub.
00:40:15
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It was these like shitty Chinese made like body scrubbers that they were like, no, we, we put silver and zinc in it. So it's antimicrobial. And I will say like from, from an actual science standpoint, like, yes, they, they did the right things. It was like antimicrobial, that shit. But it was like, they acted like they were like saving humanity's skin. And it was like,
00:40:31
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dude, it costs you 80 cents to make these and you're charging $40 for them. Like, dude, I, yeah. The millennial sales pitches now, like I'm just, I, I hate them so much. I can't deal with it. Like someone's getting fired.
00:40:46
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Wow. The company really fucked up. Like I hate all that marketing strategy where it's like, there's no way it's this cheap. And it's like, yeah, it is cheap. It's made by child slaves. Yeah. And like,
00:40:58
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It's like the Timu generation. like Everyone just needs... I never used Timu. um Same. You're fine. My wife has.
00:41:13
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She was like... You need to do x y and Z. you like You go in and then like you can get like these eight free things.
00:41:25
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and i know i i'm not I'm fucking dead ass about that too. Eight free things. So you buy one thing for like $12 and you get eight free things. It should not be that accessible. I don't even think pay for shipping.
00:41:38
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Yeah.
00:41:42
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So the I have never been more convinced that Timu is lit. I mean, oh, they're just whipping those kids. Yeah. And it's not I want to argue that it's not even entirely all related to child slavery. I mean, they're made by child slaves for certain.
00:41:58
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I'm thinking almost all of it is stolen. I'd imagine it's it's it's ah a wild combination of like things that have fallen off of a ship. Fallen off of trucks. Fallen off of trucks and shipping containers versus just 3D print factories who are just making knockoff shitty plastic versions of everything. like It's like the shipping container version of Storage Wars. Yeah. You you buy the shipping container that like floated up on shore for 15 bucks. Yeah.
00:42:28
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I got to tell you, i I'm actually living by a motto right now where it's like live a life that would make someone happy if they bought your storage unit. like I like that.
00:42:39
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That's it insane. You're getting a lot of rocks. Yeah, I have to think that mine's pretty good. I am in an apartment out here in in l LA, and I was in a house in North Carolina, so I've got a lot of my stuff still in a storage unit back home.
00:42:54
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And I was thinking the other day, and I was like, man, if I die and like that goes up for auction, someone's going to flip. Because like it's like I've got like my granddad's old – I don't even know what the fuck it's called. It's like a craft master, but it's this old like like multi-woodworking tool. Oh, yeah.
00:43:11
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Yeah, I've got that in there. But then like everything else is in like really nice, like ah not Rubbermaid, these like black containers with yellow tops. But like, dude, it is like it is saner Pokemon cards, Dragon Ball Z action figures, Legos like it is like all of my nerd shit. Like I went when I was back last month, I went in there to get some like jackets to bring back. And I was like, man, I want to bring back all this shit, but i don't think I can.
00:43:34
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don't think I can check the sword, the shards of Narsil on my flight. like
00:43:41
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A black bin full of Lego. If you, you fill an entire backpack, like suitcase with just Legos. Yeah. Just loose, like just shaking around in there. Yeah.
00:43:52
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They scan it. They're like, what do you got here, man? It's like, don't worry about it. Should you be traveling alone? Dude. I, yeah, it's, it's funny too. Speaking of like 3d printing a buddy of mine.
00:44:03
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um I don't know the legality of this. He says it's legal, but I don't believe him, but he, he 3d prints guns. ah don't think, don't. Yeah. That, that, that's sticky stuff.
00:44:15
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It's like every time he, every time he talks about it, he's like, I'm not going to say who he is or where he is or anything. Uh, but he's like, he's like, no, it's I've checked the laws in the state that I live in. It's perfectly legal. And it's like,
00:44:27
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ah can i be It very well might be. He's he's very, he's very LA. If it's not California, that's possible. He's, he's big enough online that, uh, who's the, uh, the lady that it's, uh, everyone says suck Trump's dick. And she has like, she looks like saw Laura Loomer.
00:44:44
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Yeah. Laura Loomer, like slid into his DMS and was like, we're coming for you. You, you liberal piece of shit. And it was really funny. Cause he was just like, you don't know who I am. but
00:44:55
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You should get into making a fragmentation lapel mics. There you go. Hey. and download Download the file from the IDF. Here is a ah big market forum, the Israeli government.
00:45:09
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Yeah. I have an idea to pitch you, Hugh. Because, like like you said, comedy is a slow burn. Yeah. You're obviously, you know, you're a... here You're a you're in a leftist extremist communist type character, right? I have idea what you're talking about. love Donald Trump and I think he's doing a great job and don't want to get put in a camp.
00:45:31
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So what if and this is all hypothetical? Of course. But what if ah you were to kind of start your little leftist terror cell? um You work out of, ah you know, like a sprint. We work.
00:45:46
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And you call your organization the Weather Overland. ah That's good. I like that. I would love, you know, it's funny. I got a, I got a DM from something that is so obviously bait the other day on Tik TOK from an account called snake eyes official.
00:46:04
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don't if you guys can see that. Oh yeah. o I saw some emojis in there. was Oh yeah. Hands emojis. Yeah. And they're black prayer hands. So you know, it's good. Um, and it says, hello, would you like to help us? We are snake eyes and we have a discord server for people who want revolution, but spelled with like numbers, like R three V zero L you leave. Yeah.
00:46:24
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Yeah. ah hu And we're going to find more people who are like us. We're going to find people like us all around America and other countries. Please join us. We also find products for other people to use and for people to be helped and for products that help the environment.
00:46:37
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We also try to fund anti-fascist news stations to broadcast.
Societal Reflections and Absurdities
00:46:41
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And we are pro-LGBTQ, anti-fascist, pro-trans, and pro-disabled people. and and And then and a totally separate sentence and pro-choice.
00:46:50
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ah Was it written by AI? I think so. We would really like your help. but Hold on. This is in like broken English. We would really like for your to help us in and your cause. You don't have to, but it would be nice.
00:47:02
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And then the invite link to the Discord server. And I just responded with the ah the gif of Tom Hardy from... ah ah fuck the Mad Max movie where he goes, that's bait. yeah You should have clicked the link. You should donate. I think they sound like they're doing a lot of really important work.
00:47:20
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um My current, I'm just trying to figure out how to get my rifle legally into the state of California. And from what I'm finding out is that I can't do that. So it's just going to stay in my storage unit. ah Yet another sweet storage unit find.
00:47:32
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Yeah. Yeah. My, my unfa, I think, no, I fired one clip, uh, my AR 15 that I bought. It was the, like it was the last, I bought it in my, remember she was my wife at the time, but my ex-wife looked at and went,
00:47:46
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And that was when that's when you knew things weren't going to work. Leftists are really going to have to come around on AR-15s. Yeah, like I think they are. I get the resistance, but, you know, it's time.
00:47:57
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ah Guns are cool, man. Guns are cool. They're fun. they're Are they dangerous? For sure. Should they psychotic people not be allowed to own them? For sure. um But at the same time, what are you going fucking put flowers in the barrels of the people trying to kill you? Like, yeah. Yeah.
00:48:14
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Yeah, that's a good opening question for all guests now. It's like, many people say that violence is not the answer. Explain why that's stupid and wrong. Actually, i'll I'll say this right now, and and you guys... Get Shane Claiborne back on and start with that one.
00:48:28
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yeah i I definitely have like a... a I'm being... but For the sake of conversation... You're in a safe place, my buddy. I know, until Kash Patel finds this. i I joke frequently about how um I am being radicalized.
00:48:49
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Oh, we all are. And it's funny now because when they put out the... Oh, you're part of a terrorist organization if you're anti-American, anti-Christian. And i'm like, you checked all my boxes. Yeah, yeah. i I don't know.
00:49:04
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And I don't own a gun. ah So you can't even like, I'm more safe. i I might be more of a planner. Yeah. ah But it's, I... It's weird to look at violence as like... Because you look at how easily um something something violent can fuck your shit up real bad, too. Oh, big time, yeah.
00:49:26
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But, like, is it never necessary? It's like... That... Now we're gonna... Now we have to talk for a very long time. Do I... I have a hard time believing that it should be, like, the focal point of a resistance movement. I agree i agree with that.
00:49:42
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But it's like... you can't also tell those people that like, if someone tries to drive their car into a crowd that you can't beat the fucking shit out of the person who did it. Like just fuck them up.
00:49:54
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Fuck them up. Who fucking cares? Yeah. it's it's That's when I get a little annoyed. Like I personally, like if I had to like define my personal ethos, value, I think I might consider, I might still feel or lean in that direction, but like, I'm not going to lose any sleep.
00:50:13
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I'm not going to get into a conversation about the morality of other people. It's like, I don't, if, if someone tries to enact violence in somebody else and you reasonably react and you fucking beat the shit out of them,
00:50:29
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Who fucking cares? Like, yeah, we, we, I work with, with children and we talk about natural consequences all the time. It's like, that's yeah well, you, you, you threw sand in that kid's face.
00:50:41
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You can't really be surprised that they pushed you to the ground. Yeah. Like, No, go ahead. I'm not telling you – I'm not telling the other kid that they should respond that way, but I'm telling you you need to recognize that you do some fucking shit and someone does some fucking shit back to you is how this goddamn world works.
00:50:59
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Yeah. It's – I mean, we've got what an eye for an eye, baby. But no, it's – I mean, it's obviously very nuanced. It's it's ah it's frustrating, but i I don't think that – I don't think you should lead with it ah at all, in my opinion.
00:51:15
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um But at the same time, it is extremely frustrating. To continue, especially in like the wake of the Charlie Kirk stuff. Now, I'll start this off by saying, do I think that guy deserved to die?
00:51:25
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No, but that was an obituary that was pretty fun to read. I'll say that, you know. um But, ah you know, it's it's a ah causation, you know, like you can't talk shit and say. About Israel.
00:51:42
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Yeah. we could I mean, we could even use that as an example. Like, like you know, those who killed Charlie Kirk? Like, and I'm not, we already forgot the name of the kid. They tried to pin it on.
00:51:53
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Yeah. I mean, we haven't even heard anything about the update because it's probably, because he's probably back home. Um, but, uh, trans boyfriend that doesn't exist. and he's he's He's writing stuff more on on shell casings.
00:52:05
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um A very well-known ah form of of media. you know You have snail mail, email, text, shell casings. um You remember those shell casings I was engraving?
00:52:17
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yeah Yeah. Direct quote from your pretend text. Remember that one that I Me, Tyler on? Yeah. Oh, sorry guys. I have to go get my vehicle.
00:52:28
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yeah But like, i looking at, and I'm not like a you know, I, I know I, um, am a pretty left leaning dude, but I'm not even like a, I'm not like a pro Hamas guy or anything like that. But like, I look at what happened on October 7th and I was like, yeah, that makes fucking sense. You look at everything that they've done. And it's like what you said, like someone throws sand in your face after eventually you're going to,
00:52:50
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throw a fist back. Like, um, my thing with, with, with the view of violence in America is like, I never want it to be the option. Um, but unfortunately, there's a, a very, uh, famous quote.
00:53:06
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Uh, and i I, I, don't know if I'm going to out myself using this or or just kind of, don't mean to diminish it. Cause it is from a Disney channel show. Now that Disney channel show, I think it's one of the best pieces of media in like modern times it's and or, but,
00:53:21
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Luthan's character says, I'm doomed to use the tools of my oppressors against them. Like we live in a system that is constantly violent towards us. And whether that, whether that is is is like actual physical violence or if it's, it is a mental warfare violence, or i think taking food from people is also a form of violence, you know, like certainly forcefully starving people is a form of violence.
00:53:45
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Eventually, You can't hand people Pepsi cans anymore. You know, sorry, Kylie Jenner, but like something's gotta, if you guys get that reference, but something's gotta give like, um and it's just one of those, ah I'd rather, I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
00:54:06
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Yeah. I would rather go ahead, Casey.
00:54:12
Speaker
I think we're a long ways from that point still. totally agree. As crazy as things are. i mean, like, i think yesterday is a perfect example of it. Like, the schisms that we have are less ideological than people make them out to be.
00:54:27
Speaker
Like, that's what gets all the hype, and so and that's what occupies the news channels and the puns talking points and stuff. But at the end of the day, like, Mom Donnie didn't win because of ideological reasons. Like, he won because...
00:54:40
Speaker
they're not delivering results. And if something doesn't change quick, like the Republicans are going to be out. I mean, that's just the reality of it. yeah and And, you know, if I think we all know that like,
00:54:55
Speaker
there are no good results coming from the policies that they're enacting. So at this point, it's like, hey, Democrats, this is yours to lose at this point. Like if you if you guys stick to your little pecking order hierarchy garbage and you run Pete Buttigieg this next election,
00:55:13
Speaker
then you deserve to lose and you are not, you know, everybody's going to have to look elsewhere. Cause like you need to bring a lightning rod into this next election. Ideologic, somebody who is ideological that doesn't have 30 years worth of connections to all of your scumbag. Like, yeah, like it's the same way. Like, um, I, I, I did some work for more perfect union, about a month ago.
00:55:38
Speaker
Um, but they released a really, really, I thought, uh, like powerful, long form video. um I cannot remember the guy's name, but he's a, he's a well-known like a leftist content creator, but he went to West Virginia with Bernie Sanders. know if you guys saw this video and Bernie literally was just like, I'm going to get lunch with these people. Yes, I did see this. And all these people were like, Oh, we thought you were the devil. We thought you wanted to steal all our money. And he was like, no, he's like, I literally just want you to be able to afford your life.
00:56:05
Speaker
You know? And it's like, I think that, will do way more effective action in this country than telling people to arm up and that there's some crazy war coming up. Now, I think you should be potentially prepared for that. I don't think you should be naive to that being a possibility, but it's like what you said, Casey, that's very far away.
00:56:24
Speaker
I think there are certain things that could exacerbate that and fan that flame and make it come sooner. But at the end of the day, as frustrating as it is, people just want to go to brunch.
00:56:35
Speaker
And I'm not saying I support that, but the the general American society is like, yeah, we just want to be able to afford our pancakes. Yeah. Whether it's $27 pancakes in l LA or $2 pancakes in West Virginia, people want to be able to afford their pancakes.
00:56:50
Speaker
And they got you got to find someone who is going to make those pancakes affordable. if If the oligarchs can keep us just comfortable enough, yeah then this is an indefinite stagnance.
00:57:04
Speaker
Oh, for sure. if the die Hopefully that doesn't happen. then there's going to be problems. Yeah. And it's not something that you just like kind of control that. Finally, I think they fucked up a little bit.
00:57:16
Speaker
I think they fucked up too much. They overreached and you can't just bounce the economy back in a way quickly enough where people can forget. uh yeah and we're just see like i just saw the thing i was like the you know seven eight nine richest in this country uh have made an extra seven hundred six or seven hundred billion dollars under the trump administration and you go other people people aren't stupid like that people
00:57:48
Speaker
Really, a lot of people are stupid. Yeah. me brief Let me rephrase that. A lot of people very much are very, very stupid and will always do the wrong thing because they were lied to. and For sure. they can't see through it. But enough people, I think, go...
00:58:03
Speaker
you keept You keep telling me the same fucking thing and I don't feel it. I don't see it. But I keep seeing that these guys have everything and I have nothing and things are getting worse. And 55 farms, 60 farms are closing every single day and that we lost our soybean ah contracts with China and where all ah beef farmers are struggling. And at the same time that Trump's giving 40 billion to Argentina and China took our soybean contracts and gave them to Argentina. And now Trump's talking about buying beef from Argentina. And you go, this is not America first.
00:58:39
Speaker
no America first actually is something that most people here kind of believe in because we're sick of fucking giving all of our money to Israel. We're sick of giving all of our fucking money.
00:58:50
Speaker
in being involved in these stupid fucking wars in the middle East. We're so sick of so much shit. All we're fucking begging for is that we have a hospital to go to that doesn't ruin our lives when we pay for it. It's like, that's what we want.
00:59:02
Speaker
Yeah. That's what everybody fucking wants. I've never been in more agreement with my dad or another Republican in my life. The only problem is and I think my dad's coming around on some things here and there, but the only problem is like, you can talk about the need and what you agree on. And it's the same fucking thing that it's not fair that our health insurance premiums go up $3,000 every four years.
00:59:24
Speaker
It's not fair that, like we've groceries are getting unaffordable. Like if we fund the Israelis universal healthcare. care Like, right. It's not all of this is bullshit and we all know it's bullshit.
00:59:37
Speaker
And then like, they go, yeah. And the way to do it is to just keep sinking all of our like legislation into unfettered capitalism. So oligarchs can fix it for us. And you go, and they don't think that, but that is what they're doing. And then like, I doesn't, I don't really know how to have conversations with certain people anymore about it. Cause it's like,
00:59:57
Speaker
ah You just we've been doing this neoliberal neocon. Yeah. Capitalistic horseshit for so fucking long.
01:00:09
Speaker
And it just keeps getting worse. And you keep telling us that doubling down is the way to fix it. And it's like gotten better. It's like when you look at ah there's ah a funny meme, but it's like, you know, they someone shows like a giant highway.
01:00:22
Speaker
And it's like, just one more lane, bro. I promise just one more lane and traffic won't exist. Just just make it a little bigger. And it's like, they're like, oh just just one more billionaire, dude. I promise that's going to be the one to fix. And it's like, Elon Musk is almost about to be a trillionaire.
01:00:37
Speaker
And oh my God. And listening to that dumb cunt talk about how... things should be fixed. Like he'll complain about what other people did wrong. It's like, bro, you have enough money to actually fix everything this country.
01:00:52
Speaker
And then people, people will, will argue and they'll be like, well, it's, it's not liquid. It's tied up in assets. And it's like, no, it's not. That dude could, and that dude could liquidate, in seconds, that guy's got more money than God.
01:01:04
Speaker
Like, yeah it's just so, so frustrating. I've met, I've met, unfortunately, a lot of, a lot of, lot of Elon Chud slurpers out here. Yeah. He's so, he's a genius. Yeah. He's a, he's a crook and a con artist. He's a, he's like every billionaire. You can, you're not a genius. You're just a crook and a con artist. It's a good marketer.
01:01:22
Speaker
I'll give him that. It's a pretty good market. And it's the same thing with like all of the GOP right now. I got to be your honest, dude. if i was If I was a staunch Democrat and they were in the position that that ah the Republicans are right now, and I don't know, fucking – if Kamala Harris was was uploading AI videos of her pissing on GOP protesters, I'd be like, that's kind of funny.
01:01:48
Speaker
Yeah. It sucks and it's not beholden to the office. But at the same time, I was like, that's that's dumb and silly. It sucks that we're where where that's where we are as a society. But we're just degraded.
01:02:00
Speaker
Yeah, life can't be better, but you can at least humiliate the people that you hate. with a Yeah, with AI. It's the little things. It's the little things.
01:02:12
Speaker
Speaking of which... Oh, we were both speaking of which. Yeah. ah Do you guys want to hear my ah my favorite Christian dating advice post I found today?
01:02:23
Speaker
Dude, I can't wait. I'm obsessed with... i'm on i've I've become a Reddit pud over past couple months. Is there a Christian dating advice subreddit? Yeah. Oh, God. That's amazing. Okay. I need to go look at that for material.
01:02:38
Speaker
It's a lot of just... ah It's sad. Actually, a lot of it does disappoint you. I imagine that. sad for you. I imagine any dating advice subreddit is probably going to have a lot of the same stuff, but it's like. Yeah, I think in any subreddit, it's pretty sad if we're being totally honest, but the Christian one's even worse.
01:02:55
Speaker
My experience is all subreddits are a lot of the same stuff. Yeah. Yeah. If God's real, then how come that? like Oh my God. I read the same post 17 different times in five minutes.
01:03:06
Speaker
Yeah. this ah I feel like the ah there's a lot of posts on here that are like, my partner and I were going to get married, and then they just dumped me out of nowhere with no explanation. that It's like, okay, we got lot missing here.
01:03:23
Speaker
So this one is called Clumsy Boyfriend. ah god And, okay, this guy should have his own Disney Channel show. My 29-year-old boyfriend is extremely clumsy, and I'm at 26 and getting sick of it.
01:03:41
Speaker
I feel like at times he's very careless, and I know no one is perfect, but a lot of his mistakes are at the expense of our life. And it so, you know, one paragraph in, you're like, well, this is a serious tone for somebody being clumsy. What, he spilled your spilled your coffee or, you know?
01:03:59
Speaker
He accidentally comes everywhere all the time. he says, he has gotten into an accident while driving my car when he was making a turn too fast and struck a pedestrian last year. Oh my God.
01:04:15
Speaker
Whoa. He's a real Jar Jar Binks. Just some light manslaughter, dude. Pray for forgiveness. Mesa, uh, clumsy. Yeah. Let me pray for forgiveness.
01:04:29
Speaker
Another time while driving, he almost went past a red light where an ambulance was speeding by. We could have gotten T-bones. With an S. G-bones, plural? All right, hell yeah. and that Fancy dinner.
01:04:42
Speaker
Another time while driving away Dota, recently on a vacation, he fell asleep on the wheel and made the car go off-road on a ditch. He was driving for three plus hours.
01:04:53
Speaker
That's not that long. It sounds like he's not clumsy. He's just a bad driver. Yeah. yeah this is a This isn't run-of-the-mill clumsy. All of these are car-related things.
01:05:04
Speaker
This guy shouldn't operate a vehicle, dude. Jesus needs to take the wheel. For real?
01:05:10
Speaker
Okay, so now we depart from the car. The real Mr. Magoo.
01:05:15
Speaker
Even small things, like forgetting to put my expensive cheese back in the fridge so it doesn't expire. He would forget and leave it out. How much does this bitch spend on cheese?
01:05:26
Speaker
Yeah, I want to know. One time he hit a pedestrian and he left my cheese out. The unforgettable. I mean, there are there are seven deadly sins, and those are two of them. So this one, this part, I didn't, um'm not I'm not sure what to think about this, okay?
01:05:40
Speaker
Because she says, just the other month, I asked him to carry my food, and he literally left it at the restaurant, and I had to drive a half an hour there and back to get to to go back and retrieve it.
01:05:51
Speaker
Did she have to drive because she was afraid of him driving? Probably. But did this person drive an hour to go get leftovers? Yes. Yeah, half hour there, half hour back to get leftovers. It depends on... Actually, let's I'm trying to think.
01:06:06
Speaker
It depends on the the level of... The quantity of the leftover, you know? Ah, okay. well Quantity, for sure. Yeah. quality I mean, quality to some degree. like They probably really saved up to go to the... Yeah, it could have been like a really nice... the other side of town.
01:06:25
Speaker
Yeah, but like... i don't think i I wouldn't drive 30 minutes for like half a steak. No. No. A steak that you're going to put in the microwave and it's going to turn gray. Yeah. Right.
01:06:36
Speaker
Yeah. anything Any leftovers you microwave never hold up the same way. No. No. If someone can invent a way to reheat leftovers the right way, they are that's going to be the next Elon Musk.
01:06:47
Speaker
That's it. That's the only billionaire I could support, honestly. That is a billion-dollar idea, and I'm okay with you making a billion dollars on I'll support that or whatever billionaire wants to make a working printer.
01:07:00
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, right. Oh, you know what? You want to know what doesn't work more than any other machine is I learned. I figured this out after starting to work at a school laminators.
01:07:14
Speaker
Oh, man. I to laminate shit all the time. Our laminators, we have two and they work for the first three weeks of school and then they're broken for the rest of the year. Every fucking year. They don't work.
01:07:26
Speaker
It's crazy. We gotta we got to find we got to find a tech mogul to fix these issues. yeah and can The problem is you need to find a tech mogul who cares about teachers.
Humorous Debates on Driving and Relationships
01:07:36
Speaker
Oh, that doesn't exist. There is a Dexter's lab. And no one laminated stuff more than teachers.
01:07:41
Speaker
Because he kept getting dirty. But then he didn't have any grip left on his fingers, so everything was sliding. All of his test tubes slid out of his hands. Oh, that's hilarious. and you just send of red oh He's just in a laminated gimp suit.
01:07:57
Speaker
It's like a 3D printed gimp suit. Oh my god, dude. kid a clean a transparent gimp suit would be the most disgusting thing ever. Everything just smashed sweaty. Regardless of how in shape you are, the body should not be squished like that and all on display.
01:08:13
Speaker
It's like when you press your nuts up against glass. Yeah, which I do frequently. To prank your friend. Yeah. now You're like, oh, look at this. Doesn't this look cool? And you press Or just to feel the cold sensation of glass on your boys. But yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes that chill, ah it's cheaper and faster and easier than an ice bath.
01:08:33
Speaker
That's crazy. ah that's I want to Google that to see if it exists, but I don't what to i don't want to do that. Me too. This is the phone that I get through work, so I'm not sure how to do it.
01:08:46
Speaker
I still can't believe this. i wouldn't I don't think I would be with someone who is that bad of a driver. Yeah, because that's a safety concern. Yeah. I'm a bad driver, but there's a real art to sleeping behind the wheel.
01:08:58
Speaker
Don't you work in the automotive industry? Yeah.
01:09:03
Speaker
Dude, I drive so much, I just can't care. That's fair. i i got definitely I got my new truck from work in Tacoma. ah tacoma ah the new one i love it was it the 2025 yeah the hybrid one um oh have a wait they have hybrid tacoma now yeah it doesn't get any better gas mileage but it adds like 30 or 40 horsepower and foot pounds of torque damn i i really i traded in my tacoma last year because i was like there's no way i can have a truck in la like i was also i was also getting like 18 miles of the gallon with that thing it was like on a good day like
01:09:42
Speaker
Yeah, the Sierra I had before was brutal. It was like 13 miles per gallon or something like that. And you drove a lot. Yeah, i got so I got this truck when we got back from Costa Rica. So it was like early July and i I've put 17,000 miles on yeah so far. What kind of color you got that bad boy in?
01:10:04
Speaker
It's ah it's ah the the like tannish color. Oh, the sandy one, the sandish one? Yeah, it's the oxide or whatever. Yeah, yeah what am mine i had i had mine was Lunar Rock.
01:10:19
Speaker
Was it a black color or gray? It was like a gray green. It like looked it looked like white in moonlight, but like when the sun hit it, it looked kind of like ah like a military green, but then like it was just this weird... Let's see if find a picture of it.
01:10:33
Speaker
They got nice colors on those bad boys. Oh, dude, that's that that's where they got me. Because I knew I had over 350,000 miles on my FJ. Still traded it in and got like 12K for it, which is crazy. What? That's crazy.
01:10:47
Speaker
um And then I got the Tacoma. And I will i liked it. I drove it. I think I put i put almost like 80,000 miles on that thing. um And then, yeah, I traded it in.
01:10:59
Speaker
And now I drive at the lesbian mobile. I'm in a Subaru Outback. Hell yeah, dude. I'm kind of down with the suit. dog I love it. it's It's lifted and it's got big tires on it and I still get like 25 miles of the gallon.
01:11:10
Speaker
i It's a 2018 too, so it's kind of nice. um I think my fucked up Civic is about... it's it's It's fine. It's got miles on it.
01:11:23
Speaker
Like i I just don't, I expect it to break down soon. Then you have to deal with that whole, am I going to keep putting money into this? Or do I want to take that money that I would put into it and just put it on a fucking down payment and deal with this shit?
01:11:38
Speaker
And so yeah nothing's more annoying also than you go like going out to your car and it doesn't work. And then you have to get towed somewhere. Then you have to borrow a car or rent a car. Like it's such a fucking nightmare.
01:11:50
Speaker
Just to avoid that nightmare, I want to just trade it in and buy something new. i want a r I want an old VW bus so bad, but it's like i just I know that's just like a financial... Old ones rip.
01:12:01
Speaker
I know, but I know it's just such a ah dumb decision. so that's like yeah If you can see, that's that was the Tacoma I had. Nice. guys I have one of those soft toppers on mine, too. Yeah, they're great, man. I love that. i throw the dog back there. Yeah, they're awesome.
01:12:15
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, we we kind of had that same thing with April. so She had a 14 Outback, and we just got rid of it like a month and a half ago. And she got one of those Hyundai Santa Cruises, the little truck.
01:12:30
Speaker
It's pretty cool. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, man. i really really—to put my capitalist hat on, i i sold my house ah when I left North Carolina, and i ah like opened up an investing account because I was like, I don't know what else I'm going to do with this money.
01:12:47
Speaker
Um, and I, I've made some okay investments and I, I, if this one stock actually does kind of well, I'm like, all right, I can justify taking some money out and maybe splash them like a nice vintage Westphalia.
01:12:58
Speaker
Like I love just those old VW vans are so sick, but also I'm like, With my luck, I'm going to buy it, and it's going to be like, yeah, the engine exploded. Sorry. yeah When I was traveling for work a lot, everybody would always take you to like their coolest like weird shop when you're out in the world. you know and there was ah There's a shop in Monterey, California that I went to.
01:13:21
Speaker
Yeah, and their specialty was taking those like old Volkswagen vans like that gen and then they like yeah the the newer ones that are kind of boxier and stuff yeah but they pull the power plant out of it and put like a like a drivetrain out of a mod you know like Audi A3 or whatever in it might have to look these people up it's it's very cool I mean I think it's a pretty big you're putting some money into it but then you can sure yeah cruise 75 down the highway and you're going to be a van god that's sick it's very cool
01:13:54
Speaker
Have we, uh, did we wrap up on this clumsy driver and you, we get little bit more You said the worst ADD ever. Uh, yeah, pretty much. That's us. this We're like, let's just pick two things and we'll take two hours to get through it.
01:14:08
Speaker
That's kind of how we approach this.
01:14:11
Speaker
Yeah. There's so basically what's, what was, what advice is she asking? If she should break up with a guy cause he's a bad driver. Kinda, yeah. She's like, I'm trying to be in my feminine energy right now, and he doesn't make me feel safe and protected. And it ultimately, like it seems to me, okay, some people are absent-minded, and that's that is what it I think, generally, when people think something is important, they pay attention enough to you know to not do that over and over and over again. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
01:14:45
Speaker
So, I don't know. the whole thing I just kept thinking, like, if if you're communicating that this is important to you and the person's not paying attention to it, like, I don't know, maybe it's, I don't know if it's relationship ending, but that might be a major schism.
Christianity's Role in Society and Identity Politics
01:15:05
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I would, if I, if I was dating someone and they actually were like genuinely a dangerously, like if they like ran off the road and did shit like that and I like conveyed to them, i was like, Hey, that I don't feel safe when you drive. And they kept being bad. I would, I would break up with them.
01:15:19
Speaker
I think that's a super reasonable because you're going to invest your life and time and energy into someone who is going to make you feel like shit when they kill themselves driving. That's so unfair.
01:15:31
Speaker
Yeah. Now the right question real the real question is, I can't get home more than like 10 minutes later than I expect her to without me spiraling and thinking she got in a car accident and her and all of my children are dead.
01:15:43
Speaker
Yeah, my mom thinks that way. it's And i I shove it down because I know it's ridiculous, but that's what you do. You go, what would I do? i I have this house. I have this. like How am I supposed to like do anything? I can't do anything.
01:15:56
Speaker
Life's over once that happens. I can't keep going. And then you like have to find a way to jump out of that. But like... If she was like such a bad driver where I was like, like, you're going she'll probably have kids with this guy.
01:16:12
Speaker
He'll have to drive them to get daycare. If she was such a bad driver, like that, I felt like I couldn't trust her to drive my children. That's a huge, that's actually a huge fucking deal.
01:16:23
Speaker
Yeah. And the more important question is how does this honor God? but eight Exactly. I mean, Jesus didn't have a car. That's what I'm mostly curious about. No, Jesus, he had one of those like Flintstone pedal ah vehicles. oh um that's i forgot about that.
01:16:39
Speaker
But hu why is this on Christian day? This needs to be on like automotive advice. Yeah. Why is this Christian? She did slip a little bit because the last example she gave was like, we like to use these, you know, a little earwax machines.
01:16:57
Speaker
And he was using one on me last night and dropped it in my ear and it like hit my eardrum and it hurt. And it's like, how late at night are we talking about? And why are you guys cleaning each other's ears?
01:17:10
Speaker
You know, after this guy, and this guy sounds like he might just be a klutz. I think in i was one of our other complaints is like, i you know, we really like to pray while we're driving and he just insists on closing his eyes for a prayer. he won't He just won't open. So it's like, make it quick.
01:17:28
Speaker
But he likes to pray long prayers because he actually really loves God. but Nothing worse than a long prayer. Nothing worse than a long prayer. Christ. I was so guilty of long prayers in my heyday, man.
01:17:42
Speaker
I would have guessed. I can long pray like the best of them. I could i can summon that back up if I had to. putting the Putting the verse in verbose.
01:17:53
Speaker
Yeah. I remember one time in like junior church, we were going around, you know, they would like your, everybody's heads are bowed and they would go around the circle and you could say like a prayer or whatever. And it was kind of like implied that you should, you know, nobody knew what to say. Popcorn. None of us lived any sort of normal life. Like we all just went to church Christian school and yeah went to church with the same people. But I remember one time we were all sitting there and one of the, one of the kids, he,
01:18:23
Speaker
breath He was a mouth breather, and he always sounded like his nose was stuffed up. And they got to him, and they're like, Jonah, do you want you want to say a prayer? And he goes, Dear God, please help me not to die.
01:18:41
Speaker
Oh, my God. That's honestly, and I hope he's still alive. hope the Lord answers his prayers. I think he is. He's doing all right. Dear God, help me not to die. is That's going to be the name of my next album. is um you got there's the He got a CPAP machine shortly after that. He's been living his best life. God, that's so funny.
01:19:03
Speaker
I remember, God, this would have been like middle school. On Wednesdays, ah my my friend, who was also my neighbor, his parents would take us to this like house out in the middle of nowhere. And we do like church in this person's house, um which is crazy that my mom just let me do that.
01:19:21
Speaker
um And we would, we would afterwards me and my friends and like his little siblings would make fun because when they prayed, the guy, it was like an old lady or sorry, an old man, an old couple.
01:19:32
Speaker
And obviously the man led everything as he should. And ah he was praying. And while he was praying, his wife would be in the background just going, oh, yes, God. and and and Yes, God. Yes. And we were like, is this lady busting? But well obviously, busting wasn't a phrase in the late 90s. But we were just like, what is this lady going on back there, dude? Like she's like, we had a hype man.
01:19:56
Speaker
She was getting filled with the spirit, if you know what I mean. Like, Growing up, ah I lived on like this dead-end cul-de-sac with like all our neighbors were old.
01:20:07
Speaker
yeah um and there was so We'd like see occasionally And I'll, I have this memory seared in my brain because without knowing what the deal was or like what it made me think of, I kind of knew before I had any sort of like sexual awakening where you would like have a dirty thought about the way someone worded something or said something. Yeah.
01:20:31
Speaker
And she, while like, while people would talk to her, so I'm over there cause my parents stopped by, they were saying hi, they were talking about whatever. And she's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah The whole time she never stopped.
01:20:49
Speaker
Doing that. Just like constantly giving you affirming. Yeah. Yeah. it i worry i'm i I was 11. I was 10, 11. eleven And I was like, I was looking at my, I remember like looking at my parents to try to gauge.
01:21:04
Speaker
Cause when you're that age, you're like, you're looking at adults to gauge their reactions to things to yeah kind of validate. what your thoughts or whatever. And I'm like, trying to see if my parents are having like a, like a weird reaction to it. And I'm like, keep looking at the lady. And she's, yeah, yeah.
01:21:25
Speaker
That would drive me up a wall. I was like, the very, that at a very young age, you realize like you miss a lot when you're 10. Yeah. That one stuck out like a sore fucking thumb.
01:21:37
Speaker
I've never forgotten. You got full consciousness at that point. Yeah, that pulled me into being... it I was a full-fledged adult after that. That i was like an audible assault.
01:21:50
Speaker
Did your mom have any friends that you just hated? Yeah. Mine didn't. my mom My mom had a friend that I hated so bad that I later blew up at her as an adult.
01:22:03
Speaker
because she was Nice, dude. Yeah. I remember ah I won't name her just to for the sake of doxing, but her name was Amy. um And she was a crude and vile woman.
01:22:16
Speaker
um She would like... pick her nose and like feed it to her dog. used to like ah her. She had this dog. Her dog's name was lovey. And it was also a very cute dog. And like, she, you know, loved this dog sometimes, or I don't know but in a weird way, you know, but she would, ah she, she would tell, she would say, lift up and let me love. And the dog would like lay on its back and lift its leg up. And she would pretend to masturbate the female dog.
01:22:40
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What? We are children. We're like under 10, by the way. Yeah. I hate this. This woman was insane. um And then years later, and by years later- You did the same thing to her? just No, that'd be crazy. No, she yeah ah yeah she's still like friends with my mom. Maybe not so much anymore. Anyway, she started like paying attention to my comedy career and she would comment. I used to post my clips to Facebook back when I cared about that platform.
01:23:07
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And she commented one time, Uh, like, this is so vulgar. I can't believe you're saying this. and it was like, literally all i like, I said like a cuss word, you know? Um, and then I put like a few days later, I posted another clip where like this guy was wearing a t-shirt that said eat pussy. And like, he was sitting in the front row. So I talk about it.
01:23:23
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She made this whole hubbub where she was like, I just can't believe you're this little boy that I knew. and you're making these vulgar statements and posting it online. And I literally just commented and I was like, you used to fake masturbate your dog when I was like seven years old in front of me.
01:23:38
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ah just to call out is so good did she respond my mom no she did not my mom called me and goes can you please just like not do that tell no tell her to not yeah have enough your dogs in the same way that like ah again not so much anymore because i'm not on facebook and i you know my extended family and i have moved past this but during trump's first term they would comment shit on my statuses and i would i would just comment like the like just the opposite, like ah my, one of my cousins shared like the plan Demic video. I know if you guys remember that.
01:24:10
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Yeah. And I, I like similarly to what I said to my mom a couple days ago, but I think I responded to my cousin and I was like, man we used to be like super tight. It sucks that you're retarded. Like,
01:24:23
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my, and my mom would call me and she was like, you can't say that to your cousins. Like she's like, she's like, I know you don't care, but she's like, but my sister calls me and gets mad at me. Like, yeah that's hilarious doing that. Like as adults too.
01:24:40
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Yeah. you Your a kid was mean to my son. Yeah, it's hilarious. It's also just a thing where I'm like, I'm at the point now where it's like, if you're shitty and you gave me any inkling, like if you're shitty now and you like are like pearl clutching and you used to be like a piece of shit back in the day, like I'm going to call you out for that.
01:24:55
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Like, yeah, as you should. Yeah. More of that needs to happen. We need to drag people's old business that they forgot about into the current conversation. I hate pearl clutching.
01:25:07
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I hate it. It sucks so bad because it's so performative. It is. It's like, oh, this offends me. It's like you're you're not commenting on this because it offends you. You're commenting on it because you're you're trying to like broadcast your identity to me and everybody else. And I don't care.
01:25:26
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I don't like you. And I don't want to hear from you ever. My mom my mom gets mad at me so often because she's like – we were literally just talking about this when I was home last week. and And she was like, why can't you accept my views? Why can't you accept that I'm a Christian?
01:25:40
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And I was like, first off, pause. I was like, hi i don't know if I'm still a Christian, but I still, I'm not like full on atheist. But I was like, I don't give a shit what you think about. I was like, I care when you then apply those principles to other parts of society that don't need religion.
01:25:54
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Like, That's when it becomes an issue. And then you get get all pearl clutchy because, you know, ah i don't know, like a movie that's not about God or anything related to God happens to feature something that doesn't tick your box of what like normal moral standards look like. And it's like, I don't know. You used to smoke cigarettes in front of children. That's also not good.
01:26:13
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yeah
01:26:17
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It's I have never been like. More convinced that.
01:26:26
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the that Christianity... but but When you look at Christianity in all of its forms, it can be anything. It can be whatever you want it to be. can be whatever you're told it is.
01:26:37
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it's like but at the end of the day, it's like... what it it is It's identity politics. It's the license for your beliefs.
01:26:48
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It's the affirmation for you that what you believe is right because you can't get there on your own through something logical. You have to resign yourself to this... to resign yourself to like this like idea of a higher power licensing your programming. Like, and that, it just feels that way. And I did the same thing and maybe I'm just projecting, but I don't think I am because when I look at Christians across the board, I just see the way that every one of them, like,
01:27:18
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Because the Bible doesn't agree with itself on any fucking topic from start to fucking finish. Yeah. And if you say it does, you're a liar or you ah you you don't understand it.
01:27:28
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Yeah. and you don't and if you And if you're appealing to somebody who spent their entire adult life for 40 fucking years going out of their way to try to explain why the things that obviously don't look like they make sense are actually do make sense when you get in the weeds enough that you convoluted so fucking much that no person listening can actually understand what they're talking about.
01:27:52
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And they show them bullshit maps and fake Greek words. And like, they just get so up their ass about you're like, All these, all anyone's doing is just like, I have this idea. i lean this way.
01:28:04
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I found a group of people that I align with on these things. And now we're going to use this idea of Christianity, this brand of it to license all of those beliefs. And I did it. And then I, so I started out as a conservative evangelical, you move on. You're like, Oh, well now I'm sort of progressive because I, I, I emphasize certain aspects of the Bible that aligned with my views and,
01:28:27
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it's like fine on an individual level insofar as it helps you, you know, ah do something decent. But when you start going like, and now we need to like the whole Christian nationalist thing is like, now we need to make this idea in our understanding of the Bible the way it is for everybody. yeah It's like, that's obviously when it gets super garbage.
01:28:51
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I don't have the hang. Like i'm I get annoyed with it. I think you're wrong. If you're like, I'm a Christian and that's why I believe in a strong border. and but Look, no.
01:29:02
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ah Dude, that Kirk Cameron video. I'm not going to go all Reddit atheist and berate you because you're misunderstanding Christianity. No, you believe in the thing you believe in and you're just pulling the Bible into it. If your belief changes on that, guess what you're going to use to ah license that belief? The fucking Bible.
01:29:21
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You're just going to keep using that because that's what's helpful for you and your community and to ah book that your identity politics. That's all. a book that like we don't even know if we're using the correct version of yeah like we we've been playing a uh what almost no i think ah over like a millennia uh a millennia's long game of telephone like while yeah while constant wars have burned down various
Controversial Pastor's Animal Abuse Incident
01:29:53
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records and libraries of of other things it's like
01:29:56
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That's what's just so funny to me where, i don't know, talking my mom about this because she was like, don't you don't you believe that like the Bible is is law and like it's the written word of God? And I was like... I don't know. I didn't see the guy write it.
01:30:07
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And I've also know a lot about history and I know that lot of history is written by the victors. So i think we're probably just listening to something that was written by people who wanted us to act a certain way. And then she's like, your generation just, they don't, they, they can't, they can't, they can't do anything with authority. And I was like, no, I just think we should ask questions. Like put it on them. You have to like, okay, why are you so confident that John wrote the book of John? like Well, that's the name of the book. you're like, yeah, but it also like,
01:30:35
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was written so far after anyone who knew Jesus, but not so far, but just at least one removed and one generation removed. Yeah. But I have Casey, unless you want to wrap us up on your story, I figured like this is episode two 50. We could go give us, give us one. I got, a I got a little story for us. I love it.
01:30:55
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Uh,
01:30:58
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Spencer, we like to talk about pastors who get arrested. We try best. We try our best to just not bring the vibes down with all the sexual assault ones because I have to scroll and scroll and scroll. Oh, yeah. there's a whole website dedicated to it.
01:31:16
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I should probably follow that website. And this keeps coming up. It's just like it's just crazy when you think of the number of people who are like, how dare they be gay? How dare they be trans? It just was like, oh, this other famous pastor got arrested for that same thing that, you know, they all do.
01:31:36
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I had a couple that like were on, I had them pulled up and then I went over to my other thing here, but oh yeah, here we go. A youth pastor who said Christians shouldn't feel safe with LGBTQ people in their churches.
01:31:53
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Joshua Kemper has been arrested for sexually abusing a child. Oh, what? No, dude, that never never happens. What are you talking about? That's crazy. Anti-trans ex-GOP lawmaker arrested on child porn charges.
01:32:08
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Like, we It just never ends. The name i can't i can't pass... Rep R.J. May. South Carolina. Do something cool. Do a heist. Go steal the Holy Roman Empire's crown or something. Like...
01:32:23
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Right. So we like, look, we the the stories are endless of people who who do that. How dare you be gay? So we try to avoid it. We we like to prioritize weird shit that happens. that's so much better. it's Anything now, it's like most accusations are an admission of guilt from the right. So that's, you can just kind of understand that's going, I like where this is going. Tell me more.
01:32:46
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And we financial malfeasance is a lot of fun for us. Oh, yeah. but This one, I got to skip over the first little paragraph because I feel like I want to bury the lead a little bit.
01:32:57
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um Prineville, Oregon. The Prineville Review was the first to report the charge against Jason Andrew Swick, 48, this week. ah Jason.
01:33:10
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He's a pastor. ah Having confirmed the filing with Crook County District Attorney, the Crook County District Attorney's Office has charged Jason Swick with one count of animal abuse in the first degree, said Hawthorne.
01:33:23
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He will continue to work closely with law enforcement and the cat's owner as the prosecution and the investigation continues. We are unable to comment further on this matter.
01:33:34
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The October 22nd charging document alleges Swick pastor of Prineville Church of Christ, did unlawfully and recklessly cause serious injury or death to an animal.
01:33:47
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SWIC is scheduled for an arrangement on December 3rd on the charge, which is a Class A misdemeanor. SWIC is accused of shooting a cat named Pumpkin several times at his Prineville home in early September before placing the injured animal in a dumpster at the church.
01:34:05
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Damn. Oh my God. Why? It's ah I look for first off. I, I, I do not support, uh, the abuse or killing of animals of any kind, but plot twist.
01:34:19
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I will say, i think we've all met a cat that we've, we've wanted to shoot. I can't, I've got like a clear eyeline at a couple of dogs. I'd like to shoot. Yeah. You've all met it. You've all met an animal that you're like, ah, I just, I wouldn't mind old yeller and you,
01:34:36
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ah Funny thing is the cat survived the shooting. Oh, how bad, of that's how bad of a shot? shooting Like a 22, but suffered several facial injuries that left him permanently blind.
01:34:49
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Switch says on his church's profile page that he is a basketball referee and substitute teacher at Crook County High School. The Primeville Review says state records confirmed Crook County. Amazing.
01:35:03
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um ah The local news station investigates the incident which has sparked protests at the church. We asked the pastor for comment to which he did not reply. However, he posted to his Facebook page that he believed the cat was feral.
01:35:20
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Which is not a word synonymous for dangerous, right? Rabid, yes. Shoot the shit out of a rabid animal. that Feral is just, you know, lives outside, doesn't have an owner.
01:35:35
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yeah Yeah. I mean, squirrels are feral. You don't just shoot them in the face until they die because they came near you at a dumpster. Well, hold on now. When I was in middle school, I had a BB gun, and i was I was really taking it out on squirrels for a little bit.
01:35:48
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yeah Yeah. You know, gut meal the squirrels because you high squirrels in my yard are going to die next year yeah because they took every single one of my pecans and they stuffed them in the attic of my shed.
01:36:03
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And a couple of days ago, we held six buckets of crap. Holy holy shit. You got to admire it though, man. They work fast. I was so excited for those pecans. We had so many this year. I'm like, we're going to have a ton. It's going to be awesome.
01:36:17
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I got four that they didn't take. Those squirrels are definitely taking Tylenol, dude. yeah They're hyper fixations, B cans. I told April, fro I said, next year around July, said, we're gonna we're going to put the drone up and we're going to drop leaflets around the woods saying this zone is to be evacuated immediately.
01:36:42
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And then three days later, firebomb. Yes. Smart. Let them know. Straight out the IDF playbook. i had I had to look up what the Bible says about this. Proverbs 12.10, a righteous person cares for the life of his animal.
01:36:58
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but maybe But even the most compassionate acts of the wicked are cruel.
01:37:04
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Well, that fits. Yeah. It is bizarre see something. He believed that the cat... Sorry, go ahead, Casey. No, it's just... How do you...
01:37:16
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How do you trust a guy to get up and talk about like whatever to give you like family advice yeah when they're so like needlessly cruel to like an animal for no reason? And an animal is not a person.
01:37:32
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Okay. I'm get that. And like people get kind of weird about animals and say, you know, so all that aside, just a guy who goes out and just plugs a, a, ah a cat for no reason, and then throws it in a dumpster while it's still alive.
01:37:48
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To be fair, he did think that this feral cat had been attacking his family's chickens. Oh. He had a strong ID on that cat. The post was later deleted, but Swick expressed remorse over what had happened.
01:38:03
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Plot twist. He's been assaulting those chickens. Yeah, it was him. this is a false a false flag operation. The cats are patsy, dude. He's a chicken molester.
01:38:16
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He like planted chicken feathers on the cat's body. Yeah. Turns out the cat's not dead. Ain't nobody going to pick them chickens but me. I think that the the most egregious thing he did here was throw it in the dumpster. i I don't know, you know, if if he mistook this cat for one that was like attacking his chickens, like, I don't know. I mean, I'd probably do the same thing.
01:38:37
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We also don't know where he was when he shot the cat. Yeah. Because it says... I wouldn't throw the cat at a dumpster. I'd give it a proper burial. I'd send it to Valhalla. But, you know, like... it It says that... um
01:38:49
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Yeah, okay. This is what's weird, right? Swick is accused of shooting a cat named Pumpkin. I like that they say named Pumpkin. like it as a name. Perfect.
01:39:00
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Is the cat feral or is it not feral? No, his excuse was that he thought it was feral. Oh, that sounds like this guy just wanted to kill a cat then. But Swick is accused of shooting a cat named Pumpkin several times at his...
01:39:13
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Prineville home in early September before placing the injured animal in a dumpster at the church. So he moved the body.
01:39:24
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That's when you know there's malfeasance. You're doing something very wrong. Putting it in a dumpster is disgusting too. yeah of That stinks after one day.
01:39:35
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Yeah, treating a living animal like literal trash is like kind of crazy. To be fair, he thought it was dead. or I'm saying even even but like even like, you don't need to be fair. That's crazy.
01:39:48
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Yeah, no, fuck this guy. ah There's no, ah we don't know. I'm looking forward to December 3rd. I probably should mark it on my calendar. to does that Is that the trial? That's ah the the arraignment.
01:39:59
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Yeah. He says he feels sorryy i we we sorry. guys. Depending on circumstances, the charge of first-degree animal abuse can either be a Class A misdemeanor or a Class C felony.
01:40:16
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The Prineville Review reported if convicted on the misdemeanor level charge, SWIC could be prohibited from owning animals for up to five years under Oregon law. What's this guy's full name?
01:40:30
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Let me scroll back up. Let's see if I can look him up. Something Swick. ah Jason. Jason Swick. Is that W-S-I-C-K? Yeah.
01:40:42
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Swick Wick. Let's just see what this guy looks like. Primeville, Oregon. So that's near Bend. That's on the right side of the mountains, if you know what I mean. Hey. All right, let's go. Images.
01:40:56
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Leadership team. Oh, he's bald. Yeah, you can't trust this guy. Yeah, I can't trust a baldy. He's bald, and it and he has a goatee. No, thank you. No, thank you. and Dude, I was trying to remember. I don't know why I was thinking about it, but you what was the do you remember the name of the family of pete of guys in Oregon that like occupied the...
01:41:20
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the like department of natural resources office because they didn't want to pay grazing fees for their cattle a few years ago. Yeah. Well, so because they had like a state. There's like a standoff, right?
01:41:30
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Yeah. I can't remember, but I, uh, chaotic, chaotic, good.
01:41:39
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They're probably Republicans, but yeah, we know whatever.
01:41:44
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Oh, leadership team. Oh, Pineville Church of Christ. So they're weird. Hell yeah. Hey, Church of Christ. Gotta love a Church of Christ. You think this guy prayed in tongues when he threw the cat in the dumpster? Maybe. I, uh...
01:41:58
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i ah
01:42:01
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I got one more. Do we want to do it? Yeah. Save it for later. No, I gave us something good. Come on. All right. ah This one's a little darker. Perfect. Love it. No one was sexually assaulted, so it made the cut.
01:42:14
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um ah Mostly because of the lies in the form of abuse ah that he enacted on others in the name of being a pastor really stood out to me as peculiar.
01:42:26
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This pastor here was accused of trafficking church members after forcing them to move in with him. This is Oklahoma City. An Oklahoma pastor is accused of trafficking members of his church after making them move in with him, according to officials.
01:42:45
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Elmer Baca floors and Oklahoma city area pastor forced the members of his church to quit their jobs and isolated them from family by making them move into the church where he also lived.
01:42:57
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We did a story like this not too long ago of a different guy doing something similar. Yeah. That was a high, that was a high output operation. That guy was hundreds of millions.
01:43:09
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This one is much smaller. Uh, but and this is, this is when it starts to like, you, you use your control. You say, Hey, quit the job, come work here. Glory to God. you know, you get food, shelter, everything will be good. We'll worship in community and love and sex.
01:43:27
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And, and it'll, so yeah, you can get like, you can get like a level of coercion into which people will hear what you're saying and understand it as spiritual authority.
01:43:42
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Where things fall off the rails for this guy is the victims were allegedly forced to work for Flores without any pay and he would threaten them with physical harm. if they attempted to leave, claiming he was a member of the violent gang MS-13.
01:43:55
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Oh, hell yeah. Okay. He's stolen that he's stealing valor from MS-13. This hybrid pastor MS-13 gang member is a lot. MS-13 stands for My Savior 13, okay? Oh, shit. he did that You're right. And there's there's a like and what's apost and you're you're trying to figure out, oh, what was there's apostles,
01:44:17
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but there's thirteen because this guy is the thirteenth apostle i this it all adds up it all adds up That helps. I would. I would. I would. That's his plausible deniability. He's like, oh, why? I my i said I was MS-13. Honestly, more pastors should be criminals.
01:44:37
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Well, I think a lot of I think a lot of them are. But yeah, I think we got a surprising number. Should be cool criminals. me back it up. These guys are all remarkably similar. Yeah, they are. It's just a it's a personality archetype that gravitates towards.
01:44:52
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this uh flores also allegedly spiritually coerced the members by targeting their religious convictions one of the members said flores gave her a test to prove her ability to resist temptation and sexually battered her during it fuck i wow ah no oh he was went sorry guys went with the classic i'm testing you i'm trust me trust me hey hey girl come on he get I got the old bait and switch on this one. I wasn't i didn't know we were going to be dealing with this subject matter. If you're going to move in with you, you're also probably going to diddle him.
01:45:23
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Yeah. He was arrested on three counts of lewd acts with a child. So this is getting darker by the simple act. did you not read this? Actually, I did. i read it a couple weeks ago. And... um It just blended together with all the other molestation cases. Yeah, I forgot.
Youth Group Experiences and Personal Growth
01:45:42
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Yeah, I forgot a lot. That's the end of it Sorry. You're in the house of the Lord. The only crime is apprehension.
01:45:48
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In October, his charges were adjusted to include five counts of human trafficking for labor and one count of sexual battery. So I don't know. His ah his attorney worked something out.
01:45:59
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Probably see a future plea deal in this, guys. Man, I got to tell you guys, if you ever see me turn to a life of of um becoming a man of the cloth, just know that I've committed several crimes.
01:46:10
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Yeah, I will assume that immediately. And I am using that to hide it. And I will then become a priest so you can tell me during confession and I won't be legally obligated to do anything. Exactly, dude. And that will be really close.
01:46:25
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It's like when you commit a crime, it's like legally you have to tell me if you're a cop, you know? Yeah. priests get Priests can get away. Priests don't have to tell shit. It's crazy. You can say anything in confession and they're like, it's hearsay.
01:46:38
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Yeah. You might well set it on the podcast. It works your advantage too because you can go full fryer tuck with it. Full fryer tuck. We're already going bald back here. Shave the top. Go full on. The fryer tuck is when you shave your pubes and tuck your dick, right?
01:46:50
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Is that what you're talking about? think in the Catholicism, that it's when you shave somebody else's pubes and tuck their tongue. Let's see. Hold on. i'm looking up I'm looking fryer tuck on Urban Dictionary right now.
01:47:05
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I feel like I made that one up, so if it's on there, i'm i'm goingnna I don't know if I'll be disappointed or... Or happy. nothing Nothing fun. Oh, wait, hold on. I'm going to add it.
01:47:16
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I'm going to write it in. Oh, no. This all sounds very gross. i don't like any of this. Ooh. Friar Tuck the Act. Well, there's one that's gross. i don't know if i'll read, but the one that you're probably referring to. Friar Tuck the action of tucking your boner into the waistband of your pants. Okay.
01:47:30
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The waistband. Oh, man. That's funny. So just the bald head pops up over the over the top? Yeah.
01:47:40
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That's crazy. I get it now. Oh, that's so funny, dude. I like that. ah Hit her with the old fryer. Did
01:47:52
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you guys, when you were younger, did you ever do that like Father Nelson joke? no No, I don't. You'd be like, you'd be like, hey, dude, let me I'll show you some wrestling moves. And you'd go, this is a half Nelson.
01:48:07
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This is a full Nelson. And then you'd hump up and you go, this is the father. Oh, man, that's so good. Yeah. Now, the one we did was a little more molesty.
01:48:19
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It's the one where like the impossible sit up. Like where you do you can't do a sit up if someone's tickling your abs and they're like, yeah, I can.
01:48:30
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And then someone, so like you you yeah have to blindfold them and then you... you someone pulls their bare ass over their face and they get... Did you successfully pull that off or did that happen to someone tried to do that to me twice.
01:48:46
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Second who am my attempt is bold. it was It's technically sexual assault. I was very upset by it. and i was like That's a hard cat to put back in the dumpster. Yeah. Yeah.
01:48:58
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and So many things that happen in youth group or borderline sexual assault is, uh, I was or just straight regular assault. yeah Yeah, for sure. I can think of two instances in which I was probably under the legal definition, sexually assaulted from the, ah as a joke, you know, there was a firestorm at my church, like after I was already at college where, uh, I know,
01:49:26
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A kid who is probably too old to be like at the youth group, but like too young to be a youth leader. Yeah, they did like a dangerous ones, dude. That's not. great They really are.
01:49:38
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Yes. Or energy level. But they did like ah they did like an all nighter at the school with all the boys. And heat told them to put like that. They could put icy hot on their taints. Oh, yeah. ah ah And word got out. yeah And they were like, this sounds like some gay stuff. And then they lost. There was a dude. It was like a turns out it is break out the pitchforks.
01:50:05
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Oh, so he was like the the idea was to prank them and make them have a weird feeling in their balls. And then they were like, that's gay. he does witch hunt They like they were really mad about the gay stuff.
01:50:17
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Yeah. I mean, it is legitimately a weird thing to ah to be talking to kids about at a sleepover at the church. Yeah. Yeah. Just a wee bit.
01:50:28
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When you're too old to be youth group member, but too young to be a youth leader. I don't... I think they suspected that this guy... You're the perfect age to end up in prison. That's for sure.
01:50:40
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I think they suspected this guy might be gay in the first place, too. So, like, this was just like... Ah, we have proof! Finally, get him out of here.
01:50:53
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God, it's... I was already gone by that point. no I had to put Icy Hot on my own balls. Yeah, you had to figure that one out all on your own. You didn't have the advice. yeah Nobody to hold my hand.
01:51:10
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Well,
01:51:14
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it's been fun. It's been real, guys. I'm going to go commit some crimes. Hell yeah. Let's know which ones you do. Let me become a priest. for I want to be a priest just so my friends can tell me what crimes they commit and I don't have to do anything. It's so funny that I almost like did become a pastor at one point in my life. um Yeah.
01:51:30
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i like I love that trajectory. God, I just think I, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to get on Facebook later and look up all the people I was in that weird, like youth ministry cult with it in college and see what they're up to.
01:51:42
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Dude, so did a podcast where you try to reach out to all those people and talk to them? um there's There's one dude particular, ah and look, i'm not I'm not going to judge anyone for how they acted in college. We were all fucking young, dumb, and full of cum.
01:51:56
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um But this guy his name was Lee. He was a roommate of ours for a little bit. And he would he was like a really like business major, very Christian, very conservative, but like, you know I'm going to be somebody someday.
01:52:08
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And he would always like, towards the end of our run in Christianity, we were still roommates and my friends and I, like we drink or we, or even like so we'd stay up late and play video games. And he would like come out of his room be like, you guys are losers. You're never going to amount to anything in life.
01:52:23
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And like my friend, this was a few years ago, like randomly was like, Hey, I don't know if you saw, but like Lee ah just got fired from working at a putt putt place for like touching kids. ah Oh my God.
01:52:36
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Yeah. And I was like, Oh, the guy that said that we weren't going to amount to anything in life. You should reach out to him. Yeah. See how he's doing. Can't believe my career at Pirates Go is over. Yeah. Just to see how he's doing. You know, you pretend like you don't know. you're like, Hey man, I'll never forget the way you talk to me.
01:52:53
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It really hit me. Uh, you know, I hope you're doing well. Just, yeah
01:53:00
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By the way, um I'm looking for a job. You're probably a mogul of business now, aren't you? yeah Yeah. I could sell stuff. yeah Sales, you know retail, whatever. I can do i can do any low-level job that you think that I would have amounted to. Exactly. in college yeah I do like the idea of you eventually just hard-twisting into Christian comedy and just being like i Mark Lowry's heir apparent.
01:53:27
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I've been asked so many times, like there's a, there, uh, not actually one, one time recently, but back home a lot. There's a guy, um who I, I, I don't really, he was like really funny when I started comedy a billion years ago, but he's never like moved past his current shtick, you know, cause you got to constantly be evolving. Excuse me.
01:53:49
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But he would always reach out and he was like, Hey man, And I'm not like disparaging him or anything. He's offered literally is offering me work. And he was like, I run these shows at churches all around the Southeast. Like if you can work clean, I'll hook you up with shows. And I was like, dude, there's no way in hell. Anything I say is going to be accepted by a Christian audience. me Working clean sounds like it just feels hard.
01:54:13
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Like, it's oh, it's way harder, but it's also like, but it's also way more profitable. Interesting. Oh, it is. It's usually less funny, which is why it's sometimes spectacular.
01:54:25
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I would argue why when it's when it's done the right way, i would argue it's it's funnier. Like, like, which is why, like, your date Bargatze. Yeah. And like. in like um Jim Gaffigan. We have some well-known major clean comics, but like the the Christian clean comic circuit, unless it's just a caricature that I have in my head of it, is not yeah it's not good.
Clean Comedy and Career Reflections
01:54:52
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John Crist.
01:54:54
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e yeah he Yeah. Someone else who got in trouble for touching people he shouldn't be touching. Yeah, he didn't keep his hands to himself too. yeah Speaking of which, I got offered Burt Kreischer tickets the other day. Should I go?
01:55:07
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ah for sure. Yeah. Yeah, like he here's, here's my thing about three. Here's my thing about Bert. I don't know him at all. Uh, but he employs a lot of my friends and has made a lot of their careers and I know they're very funny.
01:55:21
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So I know his openers will be stellar. Uh, I have not paid attention to him or his comedy and probably the better half of a decade, if not longer. So I can't speak to him. um He clearly has, he's doing something because he's packing out arenas.
01:55:34
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um But his openers are always really, really, really good comics. I think he seems like a genuinely like Like he like obviously like kind of a frat bro idiot yeah brain still, but like he does seem to like really want to help other comics get their way in the world. like i've I've never heard anyone be like, he's actually an asshole behind. Yeah. Everyone I know that works with him is like, he's a, he's a loving guy. Like sure. Is he loud and brash sometimes for sure. But it's like, I'll take that over being a fucking creep.
01:56:04
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Yeah. Right. And I enjoyed like, i never, I've never enjoyed his standup that much. Yeah. um I think he was, he's just kind of better off the cuff. Yeah. But then that got a little played out the more you you can only, I feel like it's hard to listen to him for a very long i think he overexposed himself a little bit. Yeah. That's a great way to put it.
01:56:24
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It's like it i was going to say, people are just going to like, if someone is successful for long enough in American society, people will just eventually go, ah, fuck that guy. Like Pedro Pascal, everyone loved him. And then he started showing up in every fucking movie. And then online sentiment was like, I don't like this guy.
01:56:42
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Yeah. Interesting. I didn't know that. I'm tired of it. I don't watch a lot of media to know that, I guess. So that he kind of like dug himself into a hole with like the the shirt thing and like,
01:56:54
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yeah he He did some things that didn't that worked at the time, but like you know long-term projection didn't help him a lot. um But whatever.
01:57:05
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Go. you got You were offered tickets. Yeah, if they're offered, why not? It'll be fun. i would never turn down free tickets or anything. I love free tickets. Comedy in the stadium is always weird, but I bet his opener will either be Shane Torres or Catherine b Blanford or um what's that other guy's name? Ian something. But it regardless, they're all very funny.
01:57:25
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Not the Ian Animal, dude. That's his Instagram handle, right? I think it might be him, yeah. I don't know. and He's the only one I don't know on a personal level, but he hangs out with all my friends. Ian Fidance.
01:57:37
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Yeah. I like him He's yeah funny. He's also a hardcore dude. He he like he goes to hardcore shows and shit. so I feel like I just want to like connect. to I want to like see him at a show sometimes. Seems like a fun guy. i think he's in New York.
01:57:52
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Yeah. His stories where he talks about being an addict and like, like drinking cough syrup and blowing his last dollar on prostitutes is they're, they're usually pretty entertaining.
01:58:05
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Yeah. Yeah. He has that, like that's erratic former addict. Yeah. It's fun, man. Yeah. Yeah. but Wow. It's been fun hanging out, man. It's always good to talk to 250, boys.
01:58:19
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Yeah, man, this rad. Thanks for joining us for it, man. it's It's always nice. one One day I'll be at a show in either of y'all's nearest. I know. Yeah. New England, man. I'll travel, man. New England is a it's not too big. I can get it's pretty easy anywhere in New England. So you pick you find an area in New England, I can get there.
01:58:40
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I drove through Kansas on my way out here. I took a little took a little pit stop in Kansas City. It was nice. Hey, there we go. Yeah. Yeah. um The rest of it, not so much, but hey.
01:58:53
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That ice in corridor is not the greatest part of the state. It's brutal, dude. But I appreciate you guys having me and It's always always super fun. I love this podcast. I was actually i was at the ah dog park right before this.
01:59:05
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And ah usually I'm there for a while. And I was like, oh, I got to scoot in there. Like, wow, what are you doing? I was I'm going to report a record a podcast with some friends. And I was like, it's the 250th episode. And they were like, what podcast? And i was like, you've never heard of it. Don't worry.
01:59:19
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So you didn't tell them about You could have done that. No, I didn't. I told them all about it. I was like, it's funny because I was like, yeah, it's called Growing Up Christian. Everyone was like, And I was like, it's not it's not like a pro-Christian podcast. Don't worry.
01:59:30
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I think it's so interesting how quickly people default to like growing up Christian. and that I don't know. i think it's funny how like there are a lot of people who are like, oh, is it a Christian? I've commented on stuff. They're like, oh, very becoming of a Christian podcast.
01:59:46
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I want to be like go to the page, click the first thing you see, and you will see us say something about somebody's dick. Yeah, you'll learn quickly. It's just a name. It's not like you can, you can learn very fast what this is about.
02:00:00
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And I don't know. People don't like to learn things fast, quick online. yeah You could just stop to people don't like to learn. People do not like learning. You hit an age where you just go, I'm good.
02:00:14
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Yeah. I'm all set. I'll just keep doing this forever. That's how I feel about, that's how I feel about music. It's like, I, I, I, I love music and I'll, I'll find a new band and I'm like, hell yeah. And then I'm like, I don't have any more space in my brain.
02:00:27
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Yeah. I feel that hard drives full once in a while. All right. Well, Everyone, thanks so much for listening. Spencer, thanks again for hanging out. Hell yeah, baby. Can't wait to do it again. Hopefully we can do it person sometime in the near future. Episode 500.
02:00:44
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Episode 500. Live from the work camp. We need live podcasts. I want to live. I might be, when you when you continue to establish yourself and Casey and I free up some time,
02:01:01
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Might ah have to travel out to LA. Yeah, that'd be rad. Piggyback off of your success for a live podcast. I'll get famous enough and I can afford to fly you guys out.
02:01:13
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Killer. Well, thanks for having me, dudes. yeah Yeah, man. Thanks everybody for listening. We will see you next time.