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Ep. 255 – Valhalla? Pssssh I'll Be Playing Air Guitar in Heaven image

Ep. 255 – Valhalla? Pssssh I'll Be Playing Air Guitar in Heaven

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This week we’re diving into a multifaceted tunesmith known as Peyton Parrish! Peyton has had a diverse career, starting with his smash hit country album “Cowboy Man,” then making his bones in Viking cosplay folk metal, and finally arriving at the genre where he’s sure to make it big: Christian rock. Ol’ Peyton has ruffled a few feathers along the way what with his abrupt identity swaps, but he stands firm knowing that all those who oppose him are demonic. A man of resolve, a man of conviction, a man of John Cooper-esque talent, Peyton Parrish is sure to be one of your top artists in 2026!

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Introduction & Sam's Plumbing Misadventures

00:00:47
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And Casey, I was texting you earlier, well yesterday, perhaps. So, i we know i'm ah I'm a savage for a good deal.
00:01:02
Speaker
I love saving money because I have so little of it. It's very important to me to do that. And... Well, actually, while i'm thinking about it, I started last week's episode off with complaining about water on my floor.
00:01:18
Speaker
ah That night... I texted you at like midnight because I had ah my foster son had thrown in a load of laundry. Turns out the water wasn't coming from the ground.
00:01:30
Speaker
It was blowing out where my water drains into the plumbing above the washing machine. So I came down it's just like, it's just blasting out the top. It's like, ah it looked like, it's like a whale spout. It's just blasting out the top. Yeah.
00:01:47
Speaker
And I almost just killed myself in that moment. i was like, I don't have to deal with this. There's an easier way out. Yeah. I was like, there's an easier, I always just put myself in the washing machine and let it finish the cycle. It was, uh, there was water everywhere. du And my, like I said, my basement floor is painted. So it fucked up all the paint. Like everything's peeling and or bubble at this point. Um,
00:02:14
Speaker
I'm like going around. So then I'm like, I don't know what the problem is. So i'm like, Pat, I'm like padding on the pipes. I'm like, they don't feel packed. Right. So then, ah you know, you start with flushing the toilet and then I go and run the the sinks and then i turn the showers on and I'm like, all right, water's going into my septic tank just fine.
00:02:34
Speaker
So there must be a clog in the yeah U-trap. Now I'm used to plumbing being like when you put the PVC together, right, you wrap it in a tape. Maybe you do that heated, whatever it is to like make sure that that shit's not coming undone.
00:02:47
Speaker
Um, And I hate dealing with that. I don't know how to do anything like you. You're like, let me try it. I'm like, no, thanks. I will. I don't, I've never really attempted to fix something that I didn't make worse. I'm not good at that.
00:03:03
Speaker
So I'm like, all right. I

Sam's Tech Anxiety and Deals Discovery

00:03:05
Speaker
mean, it's a U trap. Uh, I mean the only, I mean, all I need is just like a little snake thing to like, it's probably just a clog there.
00:03:14
Speaker
Um, So of course I go and get one and run it through and it just keeps stopping, but just on the, like the internal, like plastic of the PVC. Like, it's just not, it's not going to the U trap and I'm just like jamming it in there as hard as I fucking can. Like absolutely nothing happening. So then I'm like, then I realized the whole thing just unscrews. I could have just unscrewed it the whole time, but I didn't check because I'm a novice and an idiot.
00:03:43
Speaker
uh so then of course you undo it and then all the smells from your septic tank just blast you in the face it makes your basement smell like shit for 48 hours terrible yeah instant migraine yeah dude it's like i got high off of for a second uh you were basically doing jankum in your basement yeah dude i forgot about that So anyway, I'm like, nothing came out with the snake when I put it in, like, just ran it down the pipe.
00:04:15
Speaker
um ah Except for like a tiny, like, don't know, like gunk buildup. Nothing, nothing blockage related. The U-trap just poured out nothing.
00:04:27
Speaker
And then, so I was like, i don't know. I did a test wash on like a quick cycle. and everything drained fine. So I don't, I think I was just being punished by God for a moment. I don't know what I did. i feel like I've received my just punishments at this point, but I don't know. I'm like, and I'm in such a paranoid state of my life going incredibly wrong at all times that I did get a new car and I picked that up on, uh, like Tuesday.
00:04:57
Speaker
And, uh, i'm I'm like terrified to pull out of the lot. I'm like, I i know, i know, like I'm getting in an accident on my way home. There's no avoiding it. Like I'm going to hit something. Someone's going to hit me or my car is going to break down on the drive. Like I was actually anxious.
00:05:16
Speaker
the 40 minute drive home that I had, I'm like, ah I, something is going to go wrong. And of course that mindset can trigger that because you're like preoccupied with something going wrong that you could actually have something go wrong, but nothing did.
00:05:29
Speaker
Got my new car. Love it. um Washing machine seems to be draining fine. Got to give it another test cycle. And I'm on to my, back to my car complaint.
00:05:40
Speaker
So saving money. Okay. ah Verizon comes out of nowhere because they've been hemorrhaging customers, right? Verizon's been one of the most expensive cell phone plans for the past seven years.
00:05:53
Speaker
um T-Mobile, like Sprint and T-Mobile were like the undercutters, and then T-Mobile buys Sprint. They keep their shit low. Now you got Mint Mobile, Boost Mobile. You got all these Cricut Mobile, T-Mobile.
00:06:06
Speaker
Spectrum, mobile, like everyone's doing this thing for $30 a month, right? And so with various phone deals, at the very least, they pay off your phone for moving over to their carrier.
00:06:21
Speaker
Verizon comes out swinging with a four-line deal for $25 a line and four free iPhone 17 Pros. I've been Android for... i've been i've been android for Over a decade.
00:06:34
Speaker
My first smartphone was an iPhone. Switched after that. Never went back. i was I was just kind of one of those like people who's like, I don't care. I've never been like... you know Some people pick a side of that war and they they're really like...
00:06:49
Speaker
just annoying about it. but Apple's so much superior. and and it's ah Android, you can download stuff with viruses without it matter. You can just pick stuff to download. Apple stops you from downloading stuff. Nobody cares. its It was all about the interface for me. it was if I didn't use Macs. I used Windows. like For me, a lot of it just synced up better and was easier for my life. and When people would be like, I can't believe you have an Android. I don't care what you think. I don't care.
00:07:19
Speaker
I don't care if iPhone is technically better. I don't, it can be better in every way. um it's It's like the the phone discourse snob is one step above the black coffee guy.
00:07:31
Speaker
o Or straight liquor guy. Oh, you put that on the rocks. You know, it's meant to be drinking neat.
00:07:41
Speaker
Cool. ah So I, I'm like, if anything's going to get me to change my way of life, it's just a good deal. So I switched and I was like, this is the hardest thing out of everything that's been going on in my life. Like this is by far the hardest thing I've dealt with in the past five years is just learning how to use a new phone.

Tech Preferences and Ethical Concerns

00:08:05
Speaker
And I like, and I don't think I'm not, I'm not a, I'm very much a creature of habit. It's funny. I was talking to my wife the other night about it. I'm like,
00:08:16
Speaker
by all metrics, I should have turned out conservative. Like when you look at the way I live my life, how I gravitate towards simplicity, how I don't like change, how I have no sense adventure. You find the joy in every situation. No sense of adventure. She was like, Oh, vacation. I'm like, that sounds, I don't, the idea of vacation is stressful to me. If I'm not driving there, it's stressful. I don't want to do it. I would rather stay home and watch YouTube.
00:08:44
Speaker
Um, So like I should have been so, um but so out of, I've adamantly get like not opposed to switching, but like you've, you're never faced with this kind of a conundrum in that world. It's always just like switch to us, get a free phone of your liking, ah whatever. So I'm like, but we owed between the two of us $800 on our phone still. So they're paid off the 800 bucks, gave us free iPhones. I'm like, aye. Aye.
00:09:15
Speaker
can't turn this down and then they also verizon's like and we'll bundle all your shit so now all the apps that you use like the streaming services hbo apple netflix whatever all of that's just like you just bundle them all and it it's like 20 bucks a month so i'm saving like 30 bucks a month on fucking streaming apps no phone bill 25 bucks a line i might not become delinquent on my college no something to be, to be upset about. Yeah. But, uh, no, i'm I'm not upset. I'm getting used to it. Um, I'll say my only real complaint is that, iPhone's really annoying about the keyboard. They don't have the number line on the keyboard. That is annoying shit to me.
00:09:58
Speaker
Um, But that's something you just adapt to, right? I know with time, it's going to become irrelevant for the most part. I did download a third-party keyboard to solve that issue for me, but I don't like the placement of the comma, so that's annoying. I do like to use commas when I text. but ah by And then I was switching. for I'm like, they gave us i ah Apple Music for like nothing for a family plan. So I've been wanting to switch away from Spotify due to them being the absolute worst service for artists to pay out by like a 50% margin. I think the next the next lowest I think is Apple. So not great, but it's like almost 100% more than what fucking Spotify pays.
00:10:45
Speaker
Um, and so I'm like, man, whatever, I'll try something else. I, you know, uh, but then like, there's no good way. You can't switch over all the artists you follow. So now I'm like, I have to manually do this bullshit. Like, this is how they keep you locked in to yeah the CEO who's heavily investing in war drones to make his money. Uh, which is another problem I have with it on top of short paying artists. Oh no. Spotify, like, uh, the Spotify got like a big IDF donor. i don't I wouldn't be surprised about that, but he's just putting a lot of like investment stocks into like the fact that we're going to send drones over to Venezuela and nuke a bunch of people. you know It's like like everybody, I mean, who is it? like If you have the money, why not profit off of war like every other CEO? So I don't love that. Tim Cook also can, you know,
00:11:36
Speaker
can fuck off like blow his golden iPhone to Trump, like his child labor, uh, in China. Like who's not despicable. I know. So I'm thinking of changing back. Um, cause that's only saving me like $7 a month. I can, and look, I, I just, I think what's so frustrating about it is like, and then Bill Murray band. I love,
00:11:58
Speaker
their deluxe albums with the bonus tracks are Spotify exclusives. And I didn't realize the cost of activism was going to be so steep for me. So i I don't know if I can hack it. I might have to switch back.
00:12:12
Speaker
You know, it's good for artists. Keeps them humble. It's true. But I also was thinking about learning a new device. Cause I was like, this is crazy that this feels like this much of a struggle for me when like,
00:12:26
Speaker
this feels like a thing that would be hard for my parents like when i was a kid my i was like oh my parents would have hated technological change and then ah fucking sucks that it dawned on me in this like thought experiment or whatever you call that is like the process is that thinking back to the age i would have been when my parents would have been complaining about this shit is I'm actually their age at that i'm the same age as they would have been when they were complaining. And then that's crazy. Cause I don't, I feel so much more adept in that, that pool than like my parents ever were. Cause I mean, obviously that generation dealt with fast paced change from like nothing to, you know,
00:13:14
Speaker
Now, to where things ended up. but yeah know It's weird to like ah to recognize your brain is is actually slowing down when it comes to like learning and adapting to new things.
00:13:28
Speaker
And it sucks. Yeah, I think at at one point, you know, like... getting a new phone or something like they were so much different and so far improved over the last version or whatever run you had, you know, like it was fun to learn all the new things, you know, cause it felt like such a step up nowadays. It's just like slightly more complicated versions of the same technology over and over again. And like, I'm just not a, I'm not a tech guy. Like it doesn't thrill me to, you know,
00:14:01
Speaker
have a new gadget or to learn a new like little trick you can do on the phone or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So it's kind of like, it's always as a need as like an, as needed basis for me. Yeah.
00:14:12
Speaker
But really like the, the thing that I feel this about is spreadsheets. Yeah. I've done a lot of working on spreadsheets lately. And if I had my way, I would spreadsheets be like a, like Israeli pagers.
00:14:28
Speaker
where you click on that XLS file, like you insist that I send you an XLS file. When you click on it, you burst into flames and that's your punishment. Yeah. I mean, i feel, it's interesting you feel so strongly about that. Cause I, maybe, maybe this explains, maybe this is a good way to like gauge personality types because when the only thing I liked doing when I was in,
00:14:55
Speaker
my corporate job was me sitting at my computer dealing with spreadsheet shit. Like anything related to Excel. I'm like, Oh my God, you're telling me I get to just sit here with headphones in plugging in these like numbers that I don't care. Like I can sit here and no one bothers me. And people think that I'm being productive. Like I don't have to make excuses for my productivity right now. I just can mindlessly do this. That was, that was my jam, dude.
00:15:23
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not. So one of the things that kind of gets me in hot water at times, like at work, is like, I'm not a numbers guy. I feel the same way about reports and stuff as I do about like the phone thing. It's like, okay, do I need this for something?
00:15:40
Speaker
No. Why am I looking at it? I don't want i do want to see another sheet

Introducing Peyton Parrish & Viking Music Era

00:15:45
Speaker
that shows me the same information in a slightly different format or with the bars going horizontal instead of vertical. like I don't care. I don't want to sit here and look at spreadsheets. And that's like one of those things that...
00:15:58
Speaker
You know, especially in sales, like because you have the guys who are more like field oriented like me, and then you have the guys who are more like office oriented, like they manage from from home base, you know, looking at reports and stuff like that.
00:16:12
Speaker
And there's like a superiority thing that comes with being that person. Like, I'm just so plugged into my business. Yeah, yeah. like I don't care. I do not care. yeah I just want to go. I'm just going to go with you and you can show me what's going on. You know, don't want to look at a report.
00:16:28
Speaker
you know I don't care what that bar graph says. i feel like we're making money. ah yeah But my partner is the opposite. Like he likes all of that. He's good at everything that I'm terrible at and that I hate doing. He's very good at and stuff where you have like inverse like strengths and weaknesses. So we work like super well together.
00:16:53
Speaker
It's the, the, the work version of being equally yoked. We are and your car yo are equally yoked. And I think that's beautiful. Yes. Yes.
00:17:05
Speaker
so uh oh boy dude i i really wanna i can we jump in i really want to show you so okay we've talked a little bit about you know christian rock was a big deal when we were younger right oh yeah but we've talked a little bit about how it's kind of disappeared like it's really gone away rock as a whole has kind of i feel like disappeared like there's not Like if you think of all the great acts of the last decade, it's pop, you know, there's not like all the rock bands that are still like people talk about like Foo Fighters, shit like that, like however you feel about them, like all our big rock acts are from like the 70s and 80s.
00:17:54
Speaker
We might be going back because apparently like rap is just not charting at all anymore. Oh, really? K-Trop is really off kilter right now. Who's the guy now? Youngblood? That's the rock guy that people care about?
00:18:09
Speaker
Oh, my God, dude. Youngblood sucks so bad. I'm not into it. I hate it no but Apparently he did something with Aerosmith recently.
00:18:20
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah, they did like a whole collaborative like EP. Incredible. Aerosmith. Talk about trying to, so that's Aerosmith trying to pull himself into relevancy with younger listeners and um and him trying to get like those middle-aged moms wet. you know He's like, how do i how do we like cross our audiences?
00:18:42
Speaker
Yeah, Aerosmith is for people who vacation at Margaritaville. Yeah.
00:18:49
Speaker
That's the demographic. it for For people who have a special fedora that they only wear in Las Vegas. yeah
00:18:59
Speaker
so But yeah, like Christian rock as a genre of its own has kind of like disappeared. And we have like, you know, Christian adjacent bands. You've got a few that stand out like Skillet and P.O.D. that are still around. But if, you know, dude, it's been they're They're going on like 25 years or something. Yeah, and POD is a mainstream name insofar as you know MTV overplayed Here Comes the Boom, um which did have a good music video. That's your opinion.
00:19:30
Speaker
like That extreme ping pong video, that was good. Yeah, solid. So like, yeah, MTV kind of like the album Satellite got a lot of play and then they kind of fell into obscurity.
00:19:43
Speaker
And so if you weren't listening to POD in when they were around with, with satellite, then you're probably are, you're, you probably aren't super familiar with who they are.
00:19:54
Speaker
Probably not. same with skin But then again, like make mainstream with anything. Yeah. But more recently. Oh, like their radio, their radio hit now. and Charlie Kirk radio.
00:20:06
Speaker
yeah I'll bet you he made a Charlie Kirk song. I don't know. What is it? What's their hit? car What's their hit on the actual radio? A whole bunch of like TikTok hits.
00:20:22
Speaker
Oh, TikTok. I feel like there's one called like I ah i think it's called Monster. Yes, that's the album we listen to. Like we that's the one you gave us to listen to.
00:20:34
Speaker
Fucking. Yeah, yeah. My faith, my family, my freedom, that's what's back in me. Pretty good stuff. It's painful.
00:20:45
Speaker
So, cut from the same cloth as our boy John Cooper, today we are going to talk about a character that you may be familiar with, especially if you follow Catatonic Youth, because he's a frequent frequently shared artist there. Okay. Peyton Parrish.
00:21:00
Speaker
I'm not familiar with the name. i might I might connect with a song if if it was on Catatonic Youth. Well, okay, we'll we'll start by... saying we'll look at a We'll look at a couple of his like big hit TikToks.
00:21:17
Speaker
So he's a guy that that really ah got big off of like Viking songs. Okay. that's um He's one of those vis those dudes that talks a lot about being a Viking or whatever. Or he did it. ah that's so I feel like that like Viking metal was a thing.
00:21:43
Speaker
oh Yeah. Back, you know, I don't... So, for instance, this one is called... This is one that... And he posts the same songs over and over and over again, right? But this one is called... ah Valhalla Calling. Oh my god.
00:21:59
Speaker
He's dressed like a Viking and he has a crew of like Viking cosplayers behind him many of whom are shirtless. Did he co-write this with Kash Patel? Yeah. Part of why I wanted to say this so bad is because I know you will hate
00:22:20
Speaker
re a while on a play no island because i know you so since san ah ah And of course he's got like a lot of his stuff has like a, Oh
00:22:37
Speaker
yeah.
00:22:41
Speaker
It's all the same cadence. that It's nice to brand yourself as Viking rock. So you never have to change up your cadence from Viking sea shanties. Yeah, that's why i really never understood why people got excited about these strange like little like corners of metal, like to be like, I love pirate metal. And you yeah, why? why OK, here's another example. It makes me think of um like the ch like the what?
00:23:11
Speaker
In the other guys. Remember the scene in the bar? I've never seen the. Oh, my God. God, and that's a top tier film, dude.
00:23:22
Speaker
and you hold out of The Who? Isn't Mark Wahlberg in it? Yes, and I was just about to say... the stays sprayed up. the o he He wears a rosary in every scene.
00:23:35
Speaker
The only... That's the only Mark Wahlberg movie i I've... I've liked, and maybe the only Mark Wahlberg movie I've even fully seen.
00:23:48
Speaker
And I find him insufferable, unwatchable, a bad actor. he He's truly not good at anything. really hate him. He's not good. It's like it's crazy to that he's the most talented Wahlberg. Because all of his brothers, everyone in that family does things worse than everyone else who does the same kind of thing.
00:24:10
Speaker
Even down to making burgers. that's what Yeah, exactly, dude. Wahlbergers has... not, I don't think they've broken a three, five on any, any rating system, but like that is, um, I think what makes it work, obviously co-star Will Ferrell, um, is great. If, if you hate Will Ferrell, like I'm not going to sell you on the movie and I don't, ah that's not an argument I care about either. dont mind Most arguments I don't care about, but some people really are like, I don't find him funny in any movie. I don't like him.
00:24:47
Speaker
To which I say, don't watch the other guys. I'm not going to be like, no, this is the one Will will Ferrell is Will Ferrell in movies. And if it's not for you, it's not for you. But right I think the reason it works is the the things I hate about Mark Wahlberg are what makes his character work in in that movie.
00:25:03
Speaker
He's like, ever if if you think of the way he talks, the way that, that like I'm better than you, that bro-y, like everything. He's just, he's just kind of being himself and it sucks and it carries Will Ferrell's character well, and it works for that. So I'll check it out at some point and say, let's see, only Mark Wahlberg movie. i I think it's the only Mark Wahlberg movie.
00:25:30
Speaker
I've ever fully seen. i remember four brothers back in the day. That was, that was one of those. Yeah. He, that was a popular one. I skipped it over that one too, because of Mark Wahlberg.
00:25:43
Speaker
Well, um, this guy loves, I think Peyton Parrish probably loves Mark Wahlberg movies. So this song is called Ragnarok or maybe Viking song Ragnarok. I don't, I don't know.
00:25:56
Speaker
That's what the caption says. Everyone's hate watching this, right? No? Um... There is a dumb contention of people that love. everyone's hate watching this right
00:26:18
Speaker
That was nothing. Is there music? There's not a lot of music. It's kind of like the same. He does like put out songs here and there where there's like guitars and stuff. Like this one looks like got
00:26:35
Speaker
guitars. It's always about like battle and hoisting your sword.
00:26:43
Speaker
This one's called Viking Rise. It's skillet adjacent for sure. For sure. Yes. There is a lot of common ground between the two. It's that those ballady hooks, you know, it's like the, you like the thing, here's the thing about like rock, right? Like when you think of rock, when we were in high school, it's like,
00:27:09
Speaker
like when you start getting into metal, you give like that radio rock a bunch of shit and then you get older and you realize that all the metal core choruses that you love that were clean singing are basically just good rock choruses. And like, there are, there's a lot of like rock bands where you're like, yeah, that's, you go, I don't like this because like the 40 seconds it takes to get to the chorus kind of ruin it. Like there's no, there's nothing, there's no substance, but like,
00:27:36
Speaker
What made rock Rock was like, oh, do you have a great hook? I mean, it's all about the chorus-bridge-chorus combo at the end. That's the only reason anyone was listening to any of that shit. it was like the The verses were like four lines.
00:27:54
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of the times. Peyton Parrish is about... Sometimes he stretches them to four lines. so sometimes Yeah. And that's a couple of words. Drink them up for Ragnarok.
00:28:09
Speaker
You know, you can just say that 30 times. Nice. it so And what does that mean? Really? What does that mean? I don't know. I really like do the it's it's Viking buzzwords. That's what all of it was. like get the The intro is a perfect example. He's like Vikings. We will fight to Valhalla.
00:28:31
Speaker
like whoop Okay. What is this? It's like a line ripped from every Viking show ever. like what Let's name the... pop there's a There was a handful of popular Viking shows that came out within a three-year time span, right?
00:28:45
Speaker
Yeah. One was just Vikings, right? Vikings was pretty good for a while. And then I never watched any of the other ones, really. yeah i mean Vikings even got kind of lame after a while.
00:28:56
Speaker
It did it. It was it it was just on brand on trend for a minute. And then... You know, the well-timed um Assassin's Creed Valhalla. That one was fine.
00:29:08
Speaker
I played it, had some fun with it, got wildly repetitive after a while, kind of like every other Viking thing ever, including this guy's music. just Yeah. like what am i do I'm doing the same thing over and over. There's really just not the depth there that there is with like samurai culture.
00:29:24
Speaker
Yeah, dude, for sure. Samurai's rule. That's what I want to be when I grow up. Because Viking, this is going to be reductive a bit, but like... Because do you think of... like Some of the things that interest people in certain types of violence is like...
00:29:44
Speaker
is like codes, right? Strict codes. That's like a lot of people, like you get into that. Because ah and when you think of like samurai and like the skill, the training, the honor, the whatever, like you, there's ah there's a fascination with that.
00:30:03
Speaker
um And I want to say even within that, if I understand correctly, there's like a,

Parrish's Transition to Christian Rock

00:30:09
Speaker
there was an understanding that the total inverse of like the American worship of military, right? There was an understanding that like doing that was a, was a sacrifice in a sense that like you were really sacrificing your own soul.
00:30:28
Speaker
Not like I, so I'm, I'm doing this sacrifice to, for the country I love. It was like, i'm doing this and i'm not gonna be okay for it like there's like uh like like we've glamorized it in a way now where it's like because it's cool as fucking shit to watch them be awesome at their job but like uh samurai were kind of removed from society as a whole like Green Berets can drink at the same bar you do after they blew 45 heads off. And that's crazy.
00:31:06
Speaker
I watched I watched a v it was so dumb. I didn't even send it to you, but I watched a video of a guy arguing with the Green Beret. This Info Wars dude, he and this guy are arguing over Israel. And it's like, this is the stupidest conversation I've ever heard. Like you're both idiots.
00:31:27
Speaker
do So, yeah, that's that's kind of Peyton. That was Peyton Parrish's like shtick. He was really big on TikTok. I think he kind of like built a whole brand out of that now it wasn't always a shtick because if you go back in his timeline far enough yeah so yeah wait country no way not where i thought we were going hell yeah he's tried out a few different things that's part of what's funny about him and like this is one that i this is one that i saw today when i was looking around at his page so it says thank god for you
00:32:05
Speaker
All the Okay, so the caption, and this is really what's, I think what's fun about Peyton Parrish and his music.
00:32:18
Speaker
Same with like the buzzwords with the Viking stuff. The caption is, my new album, Cowboy Man. Cowboy Man.
00:32:28
Speaker
okay man is i read it april and i were like all this stuff and i read it i'm like my new album them cow cowboy man it's a pair i read that wrong wait a second no i didn't cowboy man that's self-parody that's so fun it's uh the auto-tune was wild on that too uh it's like he's like put it through chat gpt country filter yeah
00:33:01
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Yeah, he's kind of got, i don't remember what that artist is, that the country singer, but he he does the the the long black train song. Yeah. Don't go riding on that long black train. Dude, like country music, as much as we're giving this guy shit for like Viking buzzwords, country music is mostly...
00:33:24
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buzzwords too have you seen it's maybe the word defender the the page there i ruined it did i send you the did i send you the cold beer song where he just strings together like 50 country songs where someone sings cold beer It's like cold beer, cold beer. It goes on for like two minutes. It's one of my favorites. All the bellty all the best alcoholics I've ever known were perfectly fine drinking like warm beer out of a trunk.
00:33:55
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Yeah, so that's because they they not they're not alcoholics. They just appreciate a good cold beer. And they... That's probably like their biggest qualms with the British. you know There's a lot to you know your country folk out here could complain about. But I bet i bet if you did like a ah word search, like for all for all their phones listening to their conversations, I bet you'd find a couple percent of all the all the sentences being uttered are something along the lines of, did you know the British drink warm beer?
00:34:36
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Yeah, I didn't know that. Room temperature beer. I shouldn't say more. You're not heating it up, but there you go. The British are like, no, beer is supposed to be... Because when when when a beverage is cold...
00:34:47
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It actually reduces your taste buds ability to taste the full flavor. And they actually, this is where I learned that I don't want to talk to this person. and Yeah. But, and but the here, and, but I think the reason Americans are so obsessed with cold beers because we're a light beer culture. And as soon as that shit is room temperature, it tastes like you're eating ass. Yeah.
00:35:14
Speaker
So um Peyton was really big on TikTok. He's got like ah a million and a half followers on there. He's got a. That's crazy. He's got a he's got one point seven million monthly Spotify listeners to what?
00:35:29
Speaker
ah Yeah. For like these this word salad songs that he wrote about Vikings. One point seven million. Dude. Yeah. That's like, that's double what Bill Murray gets. Yeah. I was going to say like when I, there are artists I like where I like want to shoot them a message on Instagram when they break a a hundred thousand and just being like, congratulations. That's great. Like I listened to plenty of artists that have like 80,000 and I'm like, that's pretty good.
00:36:02
Speaker
Like yeah I know in the grand scheme, it's not of like your major acts, but. my God, 1.7 million for this slop. Yeah. So he was pretty successful online and it was a lot of it was just viral TikTok stuff, tons and tons, just pages and pages and pages of people duetting his like Viking songs, like chicks wearing like pseudo Viking makeup and humming along to like one of his songs and stuff. It's like hot topic, goth, baddie bullshit. You know, like this is like, yeah,
00:36:37
Speaker
Like, yeah you're 80% more likely to like Viking or some sort of, like, ah other... Like, just something within that... room What's the other one I'm looking for? Like, what what was um Dragon Force, right? There was, like, that power metal. Like, that kind of style. Like, it's just, like...
00:37:05
Speaker
you're just more likely to like that stuff if your mom drops you off at the mall for four hours a day. Yeah, pretty much. And she drops you off at the mall four hours a day because she's sick of you listening to that shit in her home.
00:37:18
Speaker
yeah Yeah, just the same sweep 300 times. The mall is your babysitter. She's hoping for a mass shooting.
00:37:27
Speaker
Well, the odds are in her favor. I know. Please, God, let this be the one. So about, I don't know, I think it was earlier this year, there was a a ah there was an abrupt pivot in Peyton Parrish's online presence. Oh, my God. He went Christian.
00:37:49
Speaker
He went Christian. Yes. He went hard Christian. Dude, that's the grift these days. Isn't it wild that we... Because growing up, it was like that shit got sidelined.
00:38:01
Speaker
And they claimed it was persecution. And it was like just, no, we're normal. And you're on the fringe. And it's weird. and Like, we're not mad. We just don't care. um But now, like, that is...
00:38:13
Speaker
It's crazy that like we've done that 180 where the grift is now going full Christian. Yeah. Yeah. and so
00:38:26
Speaker
So he just released his first full length album. Wow. Good for him. Christian rock slash metal slash whatever album. Do you want to guess what it's called? you'll You're going to love it.
00:38:40
Speaker
I don't know. like the The range is so broad. Yeah, there's no really good guessing. Let me ask a couple questions. Wait, wait, wait.
00:38:54
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Is it America related? The United States of America. Okay. okay um It's genre related. The title... is genre related okay it's all right you know what i'm out evangel core yeah
00:39:18
Speaker
evangel core one so there's sequels in the works i guess we called it christ core back in the day like that's way better that's way every everything that has to do with uh lyrics or titles or verbiage, Peyton Parrish does it the worst way possible. It never makes any sense. it and So we were kind of debating back and forth, April and I were, about whether or not we thought he used AI in making this music. I was going to say the same thing. right
00:39:54
Speaker
It's like the hack thing now to be like, sounds like AI wrote it. Like everybody makes that same joke on every post and it gets old. But like, there's just things when you go through his songs and you're reading the lyrics that you're like, this feels like it was put together. Like, I don't doubt that he could write something this stupid, but it it just feels like it's like the end, the uncanny valley of lyric formation. yeah but and But the problem we're having now is AI music is too good. that like
00:40:26
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it Now it just stands to reason that if it's really bad, it's probably not AI. Yeah, that is true. so ah let me Let me just give you... okay Let's just pick one of his songs here. I'm going to pick one out and then we'll look at lyrics.
00:40:44
Speaker
I know you kind of wussed out of the the album review club in our Discord, but I challenge you to come back and just to submit this one, force us to listen to this. Okay. This song is called
00:41:02
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word of God. Word God. We got
00:41:12
Speaker
some riffs. Got some riffs. This is.
00:41:21
Speaker
He's heavily disturbed into it. All right,
00:41:31
Speaker
let's jump to some
00:41:38
Speaker
Okay, so you got a general vibe for the song. Yeah. with yeah So let me give you some lyrics. It reminds me of something, but maybe because it reminds me of everything. It's hard to...
00:41:51
Speaker
It sounds so much like Disturbed. I'm going to show you one here in a minute that's gonna that you're going to be shocked by. That opening riff, based on what I know of him from just now, and his Viking music and his country, like i
00:42:11
Speaker
I think it... like This is full band. does Does he really have a full band? Did you look up? does have some other people like playing with him in the videos and stuff. So he's got to have, and I heard him say in an interview that he doesn't play instruments. Like he plays a little bit of guitar and a little bit of drums, but like, he's not, okay he's not an instrumentalist at all. Okay. Okay. So somebody is, is writing this for him.
00:42:38
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Right. But yeah, Lyrics wise. Okay. Here's and ah like I said, this is what we're dealing with. I'm going to, I'm going to say, I'm going to try to sound this out in the way it's written.
00:42:51
Speaker
There's a rumors, plural, of wars, plural, coming. there's a ru There's a rumors of wars coming, of nations repeating history again.
00:43:03
Speaker
Everybody's killing everybody for their God. But let me just let me tell you just a little bit about my God. He's the alpha and the omega.
00:43:14
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My God, he's the first and the last. My God, he's the beginning and the end. And now I carry the word of God with me. dude It's crazy that the Bible wrote his lyrics for him.
00:43:26
Speaker
You really just had to fill in the blanks. Yeah. A couple of just a couple of kind meetings yeah words, a couple of extra adjectives.
00:43:37
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So I carry the word of God with me. overcoming darkness from all of my enemies. I carry the word of God with me. Stand with the righteous to glory from my king.
00:43:49
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Stand with the righteous to glory from my king with the word of God.
00:43:57
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That's, yeah, not,
00:44:03
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it's the same. Now it's just, he went from Viking buzzword From country buzzword to Viking buzzword to Christian buzzword. That's all. he's Yes. The buzzword king here.
00:44:15
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Crown him in all of his glory. This one called Demon Slayer.
00:44:23
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I like the electronic aspect. He does mix some of that in. Yeah, very... Demon Slayer. God damn it. Demon Slayer.
00:44:35
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this is um this This has like Silent Planet RIP vibes, you know? It's like yeah he picked up most popular Christian metal bands and just ripped them.
00:44:50
Speaker
All right. He's going to rise through the ashes. It's going to blow up. It's going to blow up. I can feel it.
00:45:02
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Bring it. bring it
00:45:19
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He could write a catchy melody if he wrote this. If he wrote this, yep. The
00:45:27
Speaker
Demon Slayer. Dude, that's just such a sample drop, too, you know? Like, yeah the Demon Slayer. That's what you expect to hear at like, an EDM concert before the 808 kicks in.
00:45:42
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Ooh, verse two was my favorite on this one, okay? So, the chorus is... I stand with God against my foes. You can't take me alive. I'll face my fears. I'll conquer death. And you will know the demon slayer.
00:46:00
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Then, okay, verse two says, one, two, three, got my finger on the trigger. I'm a demon slayer. One, two, three, got my blade up in your liver.
00:46:15
Speaker
What's after that? What's after that? The bombs igniting across the skies, the gates of hell unleash their wrath, but I'll rise through the ashes. My soul is reborn. A test of might, a test of faith.
00:46:29
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I stand with God amongst my foes. Blah, blah, blah. He doesn't even attempt to rhyme anything. And he like left some rhymes on the carpet there. like he didn't There were options.
00:46:41
Speaker
There were other options. Yeah, I mean, we're going for low-hanging fruit. we're We're hoping for low-hanging fruit. It's the best you can hope for, right? And he still didn't take advantage of it.
00:46:51
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Like, if this was AI, unless he typed in to the AI generator and please don't rhyme, like, we would have got a better song than that.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah, you would sure think so. So, okay, I was telling you about his...
00:47:12
Speaker
is ah influenced by Disturbed. Okay, so I'm going to start real quick here. I want to show you a a Disturbed song real quick, all right?
00:47:26
Speaker
So this song is called Are You Ready? And by the way, the lead singer of Disturbed, legendary twat. Oh my God, dude. and he's still he still has those snake bite piercings, but they have that like the long metal thing, so they curl under his chin like fangs. And you know what also I don't like about him?
00:47:51
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Like a hog. he
00:47:56
Speaker
he's He went to Israel and signed a bunch of bombs? That too. I do hate that about him. He's a a staunch Zionist, but... all the intellectuals. God, is there a worse combo than being completely bald with a goatee?
00:48:13
Speaker
I'm not, not even a regular goatee. it's It's nothing around the upper lip. It's just the one that goes like down from the lower lip to that little patch. But like, look, I'm not trying to throw shade at the way People look if they're decent people. But I am going to make fun of just this guy because he sucks. And and look, therere there are exceptions to this rule. But in most situations, dudes who are bald, who have lost their hair, you grow some sort of facial hair.
00:48:52
Speaker
It's hard easy coming from me, right? i get i get My hair. my I'm afraid of losing my hair. But that's because my head shape looks really fucking dumb.
00:49:04
Speaker
Almost every single bald person I know looks good. Bald with a beard. To whatever extent they grow one. Could be long, short, trimmed, clean, whatever.
00:49:17
Speaker
Everyone I know who's bald looks pretty like with a beard. Look, they you don't think about it. You don't go like, oh man, you lost your, you just go, that's, that's you. And you look good, man. And women don't care. Guys don't care. It looks cool. You look great.
00:49:34
Speaker
Don't worry about it when you're, but when you're like going bald and you intentionally shave every part of your face. So you just look like no ho Hank from fucking,
00:49:46
Speaker
ah I'm blanking on the Bill Hader show. um
00:49:53
Speaker
That's a bummer. Oh, whatever. You don't like my phone. I wouldn't it You don't like Shaven Baldman. Barry. Barry. Do you watch Barry? No. I could see you liking that show.
00:50:07
Speaker
Anyway, just like the lengths he... it's like It's like the only thing he wants you to notice is that he still has an eyebrow ring and those stupid lip rings. That's like...
00:50:18
Speaker
Yeah. What are you doing, dude?
00:50:23
Speaker
Yeah, the old, ah the goatee with the shaved head is kind of like a biker bar glory hole. Yeah. Okay, so this song's called Are You Ready? Pay close attention because we're going to review it. People have been asking that question for a long time and nothing's happened.
00:50:49
Speaker
This is Disturbed. This is Disturbed. And it's not a Rapture song.
00:51:03
Speaker
You probably love this song, huh?
00:51:08
Speaker
I would have in 2004. Okay. okay Now, let me play you a Peyton Parrish song called Babylon.
00:51:26
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Oh my God.
00:51:33
Speaker
It's so close. It's so close.
00:51:42
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All right. I need to hear it again. Play the beginning of the disturbed and then jump to the beginning of Babylon. Keep that, keep that thing close to the mic.
00:52:02
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right, now the other guy.
00:52:07
Speaker
All right, Babylon. Shut the fuck That's so bad. You're a criminal. And he he so clearly, like, pulls from Disturbed for everything because he even, like, in several of the songs, he does the, like,
00:52:22
Speaker
wa wa Like he does that as a part of his, ah I guess that's a lyric if you're Peyton Parish, but. But this is another song with cool lyrics. So.
00:52:34
Speaker
ah So it's Babylon, but but but but bu but Babylon, but but but but bu but Babylon, Babylon. You never thought you'd feel the flames of fire. Flames of fire. The flames of fire.
00:52:49
Speaker
Kind of like the wet of water, you know. All of your wicked desires to reign over people with your dirty drink of poisoned wine...
00:53:02
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Drink of poison wine. your Your dirty drink of poison wine. All your spells, all your pride, and all your sorcery will be met with divine ferocity.
00:53:15
Speaker
And God's judgment falls on you tonight. This is revelation. Everybody in their sins living like the old days of Babylon. And my personal favorite lyric in the entire Peyton Parish catalog.
00:53:31
Speaker
Mesopotamia like Castlevania. What have we done? What does that even mean? they eat i wouldn' to ask out i want I wonder if we can get him on the podcast. I want to know.
00:53:50
Speaker
i just want to read his lyrics to him and say, so what does that mean? that's all That's the only conversation I want to have. he He doesn't seem like he does... interviews i can imagine there's very little of him at talking to someone else he seems to like control the situation whenever he's like talking on camera uh mesopotamia like castlevania what have we done the consequences of your secret life will come to light and that you know that's why we need our savior jesus christ our lord
00:54:29
Speaker
It just doesn't... it's It doesn't rhyme it. Not even in the slightest. On top of not even coming close to rhyming, I feel like just the way it reads. like

Cultural Appropriation & Ethical Debates

00:54:40
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There are poems that don't rhyme, but they pay attention to the number of syllables in a stanza. and like They have a pattern and a form. This guy is just...
00:54:55
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not I mean, he's nowhere near thinking critically like that about his writing. No, no. I don't believe he believes in anything. I think we're putting more thought into it than he is.
00:55:07
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So let me let me let's let's dive into the controversy. OK, because this was another fun, because sometimes when you dig into people, you find a bunch of great critiques by very smart people that make a lot of sense. Sometimes you find people who think they're Vikings that are upset about cultural appropriation.
00:55:38
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So i wish Christians would get more upset about cultural appropriation. ah Yeah, for real, right? That would that would be great. Please. So he's made a couple of missteps along the way, or he may not even think they're missteps, but um he's made some people upset because he kind of, like, he did the country thing. He he seems to have gotten his first, like, taste of virality in, like, 2020, and he covered some song from the Vikings, the show. COVID.
00:56:10
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. And and from there, he just went full force into like Viking cosplay stuff. Right. And that was 100 percent of his content for quite some time. um So he was kind of a big deal in that like fake Viking cosplay community.
00:56:29
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You know, there was a lot of everybody knew who he was and people listen to his music. but You go through the comments and it's. The comment section's maybe the most disappointing thing in a lot of this, because you look at it and it's like, me and my boys in my platoon listen to this song all the time before we go out on missions. You're like, God.
00:56:49
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Yeah, and by platoon, he means his Redditors, and by missions, he means exchanging CP. Yeah. ah
00:57:01
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No can do mom, big mission tonight. got it i got ah I got an eight gig mission tonight.
00:57:14
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It's like Snakebent after a while. he's like He's like, one little touch of this file ah is enough to put 300 people in prison for life.
00:57:31
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so um he He upset a lot of people when he made the switch to Christian music because it was very abrupt. i like I think he's been a Christian for a long time, but all of a sudden he decided that that's 100% of his identity and his online presence. and I mean, everybody faces that dilemma at some point in their life. It's the right of the blue pill, right? You're going to go full Christian, you're going to be a normal fucking person and operate within the universe we all live in.
00:58:00
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Yeah. Yeah. and So he... In the process of of changing over to, you know, this this alternate identity, he's made some statements that really upset people that were in the, you know, the fandom that he kind of got his is druthers in, I guess, you know. Yeah.
00:58:22
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So there's a clip that goes around of him talking about how he had to leave Viking music because it's so dark. Oh my God. It's just like, guys, it's, it's so dark. It's all about like, like demons and spiritual warfare. And he had one that went around of where he talked about how like,
00:58:44
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celebrating Halloween was so bad and nefarious because he's like, he's like pagans every year. Pagan sacrifice tens of thousands of humans on, on Halloween around the world, around the world. And you're celebrating that.
00:58:59
Speaker
This is like the 20 somethings white women on Instagram who talk about how they like had to leave Wiccan because it was so dark and evil. It's just, it's the same thing. Oh my God, dude. That is, that is That's perfect.
00:59:14
Speaker
That's perfect for what he's done. He's like, he's, and you know, these people are like, well, okay, if it's so bad and evil and you just like, you're so against paganism and stuff like that, like, why do you still have all this Viking metal stuff up? Like, clearly like that's against your beliefs and stuff. Why are you still like garnering views and and income and stuff from all these posts? And he's like, that's part of my testimony.
00:59:41
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Oh, my God, dude. i
00:59:47
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That that that is a nice thing about deciding to go full Christian is you can still profit off your old life. and just incorporate into your testimony. Like we've talked to many times about like the, the Harley guys that used to bash skulls in for, and break legs because someone owed a debt and they're like, yeah, but that was all before I got saved. All that stuff. When I was fucking all these bitches going to orgies, breaking legs, making money. Yeah. You know, that was cool. I'll talk about it everywhere I go. I'll post videos of it online, but that was, you know,
01:00:23
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That's all just part of my testimony now. That shows you the power of God. it God is so powerful. He was able to overcome all of that. Let me tell you how crazy my life was you know before I turned to Jesus. I gave all that up. As cool as it sounds, I gave all of that up.
01:00:41
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Yeah, is so he kind of that card. Let me see your search history. i want I feel like we need to start planting people at these like conferences, at these tell these evangelist events where they're like where they talk about their past being so sinful and how God saved them. And just people didn need to stand up. if that's all true, let me see your search history.
01:01:02
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he Just watch them. It's part of your testimony at this point that you Googled like stepsister porn 30 times a day. Yeah, so he really ruffled feathers every time he talked about it. you know People accused him of like cultural appropriation. and I'm going to tell you what.
01:01:21
Speaker
As annoying as Peyton Parrish is, I find a lot of the people making like the gotcha content about him just as annoying. like the right like He's like, ah you know if you if you don't think that pagans engaged in blood rituals, then like ah I don't know what to tell you, man. And then it's like, people playing the like curb your enthusiasm music and being shown a picture of like communion, like, ha, gotcha.
01:01:50
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Just, uh, the, the, the like little jokes where they're like, you know, talking about commuting with spirits and they go outside and pretend to talk to like the flowers or, or the tree or whatever. Like it's, it's terrible. It's just so annoying.
01:02:07
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I don't know how badly I want to go down this path. road, but especially for the sake of time. But when we think about cultural appropriation,
01:02:23
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they kind of you're kind of just doing historic remembrance if it's not really a contemporary culture, right? Yeah, I'd say so.
01:02:35
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Like, I know a guy. Who I love. One of the kindest men on the planet. i have i there's no No one person on Earth who's ever met him has a negative thing to say about him.
01:02:53
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He's a wonderful person. And he probably has some like Norse heritage. um And he's he's very into the Norwegian Norse stuff. As am I, brother. As am he had like but I. But to the degree that he is... like There's enough of a culture around it where...
01:03:18
Speaker
He is in training to become a shaman. He has a bunch of Norse tattoos. like it's It's not cosplay. It's real. he He finds a real connection to this, the culture, of the history. I don't know the degree to which he like you know actually believes in it versus just like metaphorically believes in. I don't know. i haven't talked to him about that. I don't, him and I don't speak often.
01:03:47
Speaker
We are connected more on social media now than we are in real life. And I don't care that he does. it I go that, It's like when you have like your mystic Christian who goes super far into it and you go, what? I don't have much to say because you're a very kind and beautiful person that only does good wherever you go. Like who gives a fuck? Like I don't, there's no argument to be had. There's no conversation to be had um about the the the actuality of it to the degree that they believe or don't. I don't know. You know what i mean? So like with him, I'm like,
01:04:25
Speaker
Like if I were to get into that in the way that he was or is, is it like, is that cultural appropriation? Because I don't have like, ah if I don't have a, an actual genetic connection to people from the land, like what are we doing? I just feel cares? Who cares? Okay. i I'll, I'll, I'll hear arguments about cultural appropriation from a culture that is repressed.
01:04:51
Speaker
You know what? Like, okay. I'll, I'll, I'll listen to that. I'm not very interested in it, but I can i can hear it and respect it from somebody who's who's talking about a culture that is repressed, right? It's repressed and it's being, and it's appropriated by a culture that's using it for, you know,
01:05:11
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to increase their status like that's just that's kind of feel shitty i yeah like i hear okay i hear where you're coming from for sure if it's like oh you're a you're a a white chef that specializes in cooking like japanese cuisine like i don't care i don't care okay asian-driven fusion bobby hill maybe like if you're a white lady and you're at a party going like Like, I want to be ninja.
01:05:38
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Like, have you seen that video? No. yeah It's just a white lady, like a middle-aged white lady at ah at a like a Christmas party singing in a fake Asian accent and and going way too hard into it.
01:05:53
Speaker
Yeah. And it's very uncomfortable. Like, okay, sure. That's appropriating culture, and that's pretty gross, right? But I don't want to hear about, like, youre oh, yeah. using norse culture to you know your benefit and blah blah like give me a break man i don't i don't care but to uh what he did when he would people because people keep going into his live streams and stuff and like peppering him with questions about it or like trying to push his buttons you know
01:06:25
Speaker
And, you know, one of the common references is like, well, you you sure made a lot of money off of this pagan culture that you are saying is so evil now, you know, like, are you going to give the money back? And like, oh, did he issue his tax return? Do we know how much money he made? No, it's TikTok really this is TikTok is monetizable as YouTube.
01:06:47
Speaker
I don't i know. it's not. But, you know, I feel like if you're ah a Norse cosplayer, like 300 bucks a month sounds like ah a massive amount it pays rent to your mom for living in her basement i which is where i'm sure this guy is dwelling yeah yeah it'll but it'll buy you some beard beads or something like that it'll put a down payment on a terrible like millionaire tattoo on your chest yeah it'll get you that cool rasta hat with real rasta locks sewn into it But he so he somebody asked him, like, are you going to give back all the money that you, you know, extracted from like your your pagan fans that that supported you? And he says he literally says, no, I'm not giving the money back. i'm I'm giving all the money to Jesus. All the money is going to Jesus. It's all going into my Christian, my Christian music, my Christian content.
01:07:41
Speaker
you just like god dude you'd be better off just not addressing it than being like i'm giving it all to jesus by building my music career with it yeah because it's my you know my testimony and whatnot my christian music career so um he also upset people because i guess like you know sleep tokens fan base is a big crowd and There's some real dorks in there, but... Oh, yeah. Big time dorks. You know, people consider them like a pagan band, which I think is pretty fair considering, like, the concept of, you know, like, worshipping sleep, like some yeah deity or whatever.
01:08:18
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People got really upset over this Damocles cover that he did. my God. will keep on seeking you, Lord Until my heart gets out of
01:08:43
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I... dude...
01:08:48
Speaker
It's weird... He's not even on... His timings out.
01:09:04
Speaker
Yeah, he really can't figure out like the placement of syllables. like he know he's His iambic pentameter is all wacky. It is bizarre, dude. it's It's bizarre when people try to cover songs from... like You can always have that debate. Was this cover better or worse?
01:09:27
Speaker
It's rare that people say better, but every once in a while someone does a cover and you're like, that was a really good cover. But like... A lot of people cover songs and put on YouTube. And as long as you, like, that guy from Sleep Token can sing.
01:09:41
Speaker
A lot of other people can sing. And they can cover it and it has their flair. And you go, that was really good. But if you're objectively worse than... Then the person singing it, and then you're wasting your time. like Because it's he he put like Christian lyrics to it, like pseudo-Christian lyrics that suck. I didn't even hear it. I was just so tuned in on the sound of his voice that i the the lyrics went right past me. He's like, when the timer runs out, will I hear, well done, good and faithful servant, blah, blah, blah, blah blah pray for me, this, that. Dude.
01:10:20
Speaker
And so there's there I can understand people being a little upset, like, hey, dude, you can't just take somebody's song and slap it around and make it into some other thing that it wasn't at all before. But I mean, Christian music kind of does that a lot. So, yeah, it's like for a minute what was that horrible band?
01:10:41
Speaker
Apologetics. Where they would take like. classic rock songs and they'd be like, you know, back in black, but make it Christian. ah It's the men in black, but make it Christian. That is real. And it sucks.
01:10:57
Speaker
So, um, you know, he got a lot of pushback from those people and he, do you want to, do you want to guess how he interpreted that?
01:11:11
Speaker
The, the feedback. Yeah. The pushback that he got. Oh my God. It's, I mean, it's going to be like that victim complex shit about how Christianity is under attack. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Here's him talking about like the toll it's taken on him and how oh wow he doesn't even care because he's serving Jesus. All right.
01:11:33
Speaker
Ready? So I just lost 3000 followers because I made a post about Jesus Christ. I don't care if I lose a hundred thousand or a million or however many people decide to unfollow me after this post. I'm here to tell you this. Jesus loves you.
01:11:51
Speaker
Jesus died for you. fuck no fuck you God calls upon you in repentance to turn from your sin and to come to him. For his yoke is easy and his burden is a light.
01:12:03
Speaker
Jesus is a light to the world. Jesus. I'm not, I don't like his breathy tone. I'm not going to be able get a boner for a week, dude. This guy sucked me inside my own body. I,

Reflections on Online Personas & Interview Interests

01:12:16
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this is so frustrating because
01:12:20
Speaker
I don't care if I lost 3,000 followers. He's got over a million, right? Oh, yeah. I don't i lost 3,000 followers, which means you're paying attention too much. yeah That's true. i You're just obsessed with your followers. And he goes, I don't care if I lose 100,000 more. You do, and that's why you're posting it because this isn't For every 3,000 you lose, you gain 20,000 fucking idiots who just slurp up this slop. They love it. There's a whole segment of the internet population that can't
01:12:55
Speaker
but They just, oh, it's it's just for the people who don't have the critical thinking skills to see through this bullshit. It's just for his it's it's for the it's targeted towards an audience that is incapable of seeing the grift for what it is. And then that's why we see people in that lane grow their grift daily, constantly. It's so calculated and so bullshit that And to do that little breathy, quivery voice is so fucking pastor.
01:13:27
Speaker
That's so pastor. Yeah, it's it's it's adopting the cadence. so this guy ah That I don't care. I'm taking a stand for Jesus. all. Always pulls in more than you lose. And it's just because it's about quality quantity, not quality. You don't care about you have no integrity. You have no artistry. You don't care about the quality of what you're doing. It's just about amassing a following. So that way you don't hang yourself in your closet jerking off later on that night. that's it well let's see what i value in this world oh i'm valuable now a bunch of strangers who think dumb shit love me and that's enough to get me through the next it's so pathetic so here's here's some calm let's just look at the comments real fast before you weren' look at the comments i have to go pee so bad okay i'll pause thanks
01:14:23
Speaker
So one person says, now it was probably based off your following the old gods, and then bam, there's Jesus. Somebody responds, well, considering how the old gods are weaklings compared to the actual creator, it's best to follow the one who actually created it all instead of once pretending that they did.
01:14:42
Speaker
Heart, hands, all that. I like the admission of other gods, though. I like that he's a polytheist. That's cute. Yeah. uh jessica says peyton they weren't your true friends fans or friends because you're a christian and i will always be there for you and your beautiful family i don't care what you've done as long as you say the right things now you're on my team
01:15:05
Speaker
tweak says amen heart even ragnar got baptized and learned how to pray I don't have the historical context for that. You did in the show, but... ah i'll ah I'll just... Yeah, you know, I'll i'll take it.
01:15:22
Speaker
I guess. Yeah, so um it's ah It's a mixed bag, but the the Christian community does rally behind these weird internet celebrities. They normally do once you toe the line, dude. They always... It's the straightest line in history.
01:15:41
Speaker
So I did find one of the things that's annoying about TikTok is like it's so hard to find original clips. You just keep finding people people reacting to those clips, you know. So this one I found that is ah is Peyton trying his hand at online faith healing.
01:15:59
Speaker
Oh, my God. He's really got oh, my God. And I apologize this again to the to the, what I was just saying, like somebody has cut it with that clips of Bruce almighty, but here we go. Listen to this.
01:16:15
Speaker
Just try it out for me a little bit. I said, I'm going to come. I'm going to come.
01:16:26
Speaker
I come upon her now in Jesus mighty name. I come upon her now? Dude, take it easy.
01:16:35
Speaker
dude take his
01:16:40
Speaker
just staring at the chat waiting her to wait he's just staring at the chat intently like waiting for her to type i'm all better it's not even video it's just through text yeah he's just like doing a live stream and someone's talking to him over it gpt heals people better than that yeah i i do find it very funny like the Like the the fake exorcist crap is very funny. The faith healing stuff is funny. But it's like even funnier when it's somebody trying to do it through like a Zoom call.
01:17:14
Speaker
That's my favorite. i Look, I know this episode's coming out tomorrow. But I do. I'm hoping like a lot of people who say yes to this podcast that they don't actually listen to it before they jump on.
01:17:29
Speaker
um is Don't put if you don't put his name in the title and he doesn't see it, you know, we might. I. Does he have an Instagram? Sure.
01:17:40
Speaker
Does he take messages? Are you following him already? I don't think this guy's going anywhere where there's a there's a possibility that he might get asked questions. Clearly does seem to avoid like any sort of interactions that might not be like that might not go his way.
01:17:58
Speaker
Oh, man, I don't know. I feel like... I feel like if you say it right, you just tell him. You just... This is a guy I don't... So, look...
01:18:10
Speaker
we've wanted to have people on in the past where it's like, but we're not debaters. We're not, we're here ourselves having fun, talking about stuff that's fun for us. Like I'm, I'm conflict averse in my real life. I turn into a giant coward when I'm in situations where I have to stand up for myself. So then I come here and I get it out. The things I want to say. And I disappoint my family, not to their face. its I, it's hard for me disappoint people to their face. Um,
01:18:39
Speaker
but there is a line like I've tried to get Catherine Crick. I've tried to contact her multiple times. A lot of these faith healers aren't going to go in spaces where, um you know, they don't think they're welcome really. And most of the time i'm very honest with people when I reach out and I say like, here's what we're about. I don't reach out to a lot of people these days. I feel like there's not, it's there's a lot of reasons for that time mostly. But there's also a lot of people like, I think we've,
01:19:10
Speaker
like we've talked about when we started the show, it was Larry like, Oh, we should get a guest every week. Now it's like, i'll we'll get a guest when someone comes our way that we really want to talk to. But, um, I've made the example plenty of times in our, like our discord with my friends where it's like, there are people who are accessible, um, for a podcast of our size. Um,
01:19:33
Speaker
Someone like the under oath guys are always doing podcast interviews and I don't want to talk to them because I'm conflict averse and I hate everything they've done for the past five years. And I don't want to talk to them. I don't think they're interesting people at this point. They say the same things over and over again.
01:19:49
Speaker
I'm sure they're nice people. I'm sure they're fine to be friends with like, but like, I'm not interested in having that conversation. So if you've ever hoped that we've talked to somebody from Under Oath, I'm never reaching out at this point. Like, I don't care. um But like guys like this, these are the kind of people I don't mind lying to because they're chronic liars and grifters.
01:20:11
Speaker
You can lie to these people to get them on a show. You're like, oh man, I'm really interested in your work. I love the shift. It's crazy. Like how you've come around to Jesus Christ. Like you can spin it any way you want. And it doesn't matter because you're a fucking loser. That's also doing that same game.
01:20:28
Speaker
You bought into the grift. So if you get, if you get like solicited by a grifter and you fall for the grift, then like, that's what you, that's, that's kind of just what you get. That's what you deserve.
01:20:41
Speaker
yeah The best thing would be getting 10 minutes into it and him leaving and us posting that. like That would be so fucking cool. I don't know, man. I don't know if he's a grifter or not. He seems so sincere, you know? So had a rapture dream for the first time ever, and I want to share it with you. So I'll try to do this quick. He's reading a script.
01:21:04
Speaker
i saw stars all in the sky and i thought wow god's creation magnificent well then there was a faint circle and he's reading a gri i was like that strange and I was like, babe, my wife, was like, babe, wake up, wake up.
01:21:17
Speaker
Now, I knew she was there in spirit, but I couldn't see her just because you know it's a dream. But I was like, hey, hey, something's happening. So i was looking out and this circle just got bigger and bigger and bigger. And it was like flames of fire. It was like orange and red. And it's like a massive ring. And it was growing and it was growing.
01:21:34
Speaker
like when somebody tells you about a dream because they can just make it whatever they want. Yeah, you can. and No dreams. Like, it's rare that dreams are that clear unless it's, like, from the Old Testament. Like, then they're clear as fuck. But, like, or your Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith had a pretty good lock on his vivid dreams. But whatever. Oh, my God. yes, we will continue to watch ah Peyton Parrish's musical career with great interest.
01:22:02
Speaker
and we'll see if you know the Christian Rock thing pays dividends for him. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't. i have ah I sometimes wonder if there's a disconnect between extracting likes and comments and extracting money from these people. so It's all an extraction game. That's what it comes down to.
01:22:25
Speaker
Yeah, there is definitely an audience for it. like I saw a clip of John Cooper came up on my... YouTube this week and the comments are filled with people being like, I listened to alien youth and it saved my life. I was going to kill myself. And then I heard you sing rebirthing and I didn't do it.
01:22:47
Speaker
Well, he's got 1.8 million followers on Instagram. He has a U S bookings agent. I'm going to look up dynamite dynamic talent and see if like he's behind that in any way.
01:23:01
Speaker
um EU booking is Ben at Dynamic Talent and US booking is Adam at Dynamic Talent. So, don't know. I'm going to... He's followed by Strongman for Jesus. don't know if... I know you love that guy. Oh, dang. I haven't seen him in forever. Did he die?
01:23:20
Speaker
no I see enough of him. um But, anyway. Yeah, I'll look into this guy. I'd love to talk to him, but... Yeah. We'll Thanks for bringing a good catch, man.
01:23:33
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks to Catatonic Youth, of the greatest page on Instagram, for making me aware of this wonderful artist. So, yeah. um I don't know if we'll have an episode next week with the holidays and stuff, but... Yeah.
01:23:51
Speaker
if we don't If we don't put anything out before then, hope everybody has a Merry Christmas, and we will see next