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61. Diddy Do It?
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We took a break but we're baaaaaack!! This week we're talking about the Diddy debacle, Amendments to the Constitution that didnt pass and a sort of AITA.
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Opening Jokes and Banter
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it's been a while i just checked it's been since september 11th was our last episode that was published which means that we recorded sometime before that wow yeah that's been a while it's been a month plus a few i forgot what you look like and smell like what you look like I like the same. So do I. You look right now like someone who does spoken word poetry at a coffee shop and like snaps to clap, like very beatnik cool. It's the glasses and blackish turtle neck. Yeah.
00:01:04
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Yeah, it is a black turtle. It's quite itchy actually. Unacceptable. It is what it is. I'm so uncomfortable. It is what it is. There's nothing I can do about it. I can't change. I can't not wear itchy clothes. I have to suffer. Yes, exactly. I definitely don't have a wardrobe full of clothes. in That's it. That's all you wear.
00:01:31
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So, well, for the listeners out there, um apologies for the little break that we had.
Reflections on Personal Changes
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I am recording. I am coming to you from a new property, a new location. Me too. Looks the same to me. Just kidding. i I just took this one room out of my house and put it somewhere else. Like in The Sims, where you can just copy a room and drop it.
00:02:01
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yeah Yeah, I'm in The Sims. Apparently, we all are. We're in a simulation. Absolutely, this is Matrix. I believe it. um Well, yes. so As you were saying, it's been a minute. um You're in a new property.
00:02:20
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You've had a lot of change and busyness going on, been really kind of hustling. and I think if anything, this break from each other has shown what a real piece of shit I am and a hard worker you are. Why? Because as we said before we started recording, it's like, I haven't done anything today for this." And you're like, well, I've got my paper here of all all of the content I've developed over. I've got my minder, which I've put together, laminated and put in alphabetical order. Now I haven't done that. I saved a couple of shit that we might talk about.
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And I'm like, oh, I just wanted to play video games in my basement and I'm very busy socially.
00:03:07
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So sorry. That's fine. Don't you worry. No dramas and it's good to be back talking shit. It is. Likewise. And boy, do we have some stuff to talk shit about today.
00:03:23
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Oh boy, we are going to talk some shit about all kinds of shit. Stuff and things that really is shit worthy. Really
Podcast's Humorous Mission
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is. I mean, coming up, we've got, we're going to touch on what's going on with Diddy. I've got an interesting story for you about God, I've forgotten already.
00:03:54
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ah other things we have got other things i've got other things we're gonna talk about and it's gonna be really fun it's gonna be a journey and you're gonna be like oh my god I missed listening to that yank and that Brit talking shit which is what our podcast is by the way a that's what we do we pick up a subject and we talk about it very accurately and matter-of-factly highly researched, highly, um you know, produced, put together. We're just the ultimate professionals in this.
00:04:39
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Yeah, that's true. Girl bossing the podcast world. Way to bring that back. I haven't heard that in a while.
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Why can't it just be bossing? Yeah, why is it girl bossing? I think because boss often connotes men. Yeah, that is often the case, as we all know.
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Yeah. so
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I am just like right off the bat moving into the substance of today.
Diddy Allegations and FBI Raid
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Like what is your understanding about what's going on with Diddy, AKA Puff Daddy, AKA P Diddy, AKA Diddy, FKA Sean Combs.
00:05:36
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The man of many names. um There seems to be a reason for it. Maybe he's going to avoid the law for a very long time. So, I mean, obviously I've seen a lot about what's happening, but equally at the same time haven't bothered to really read anything in much detail. But what I know is that he's been arrested and charged for alleged rape, sex trafficking and domestic violence.
00:06:11
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who um I saw a video of him abusing his ex Cassie who was I think the first woman to come forward and make these claims against him and have you seen it? It's like in a hotel hallway and she's clearly trying to leave and he just like fucking punches her to the floor and then like throws her across the room and Oh, my God, it's horrible, too. It's like horrible. And I'm I remember seeing that and thinking like the arrogance of that man doing that in a public building in a space where there's obviously going to be cameras and appearing to not give a fuck. Yeah. And how long ago was that? it It only came to light now because probably he's got a lot of money and power. Uh-huh. Exactly.
00:07:06
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um Well, this is the whole thing, isn't it? So since her lawsuit, seven more women have come forward and two more men have sued as well, accusing him of sexual harassment, non-consexual pornography, sex trafficking, and rape. According to ah this article I was just looking at that came out like last week, ah there was a press conference for that has that reported an additional 120 accusers.
00:07:37
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Yeah. So, safe to say that he, and I need to say this for legal reasons, is allegedly a piece of shit. So, so all this is happening, he's been arrested, he's not been granted bail.
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um But there's also, like, other shi-, so he used to have these parties, basically.
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And at the end of the party- And he's famous for the white parties, right? Like that was him? Yeah, that was him. And at the end of the party, things would get a little bit sorted from what I can work out.
00:08:27
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um So he, in March this year, like all his homes got raided by the FBI. He was then arrested.
00:08:39
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um There's an unsealed indictment that alleges that he abused, threatened and coerced women and others and led to a racketeering conspiracy that engaged in sex trafficking, forced labour, kidnap, arson, bribery and obstruction of justice among other crimes. Jesus. So it's not just like he's a piece of shit towards women. I think he's just a piece of shit.
00:09:06
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All round. Allegedly. Allegedly a piece of shit. um
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So yeah, I sort of seen little bits about it and then the other day my friend Nat, hi Nat, sent me a lengthy voice note. um She's gone down a huge rabbit hole on like TikTok and stuff.
00:09:33
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And it's like, there's these wild conspiracy theories. So from what I can remember, because there was a lot. So this isn't just Diddy.
00:09:49
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It's apparently also linked to Jay-Z and Beyonce.
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So they're somehow connected to this as well. I can't remember how. Sorry about the lack of information. um But so, so what I can remember about these two is that it's like, it's like kind of this like power ring of rappers.
Celebrity Conspiracy Theories
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And so, right, so.
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There's this theory that if people don't thank Beyonce when they receive awards, they get killed.
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So like you'll notice like when Adele won her Grammys like all she did was thank Beyonce, she broke her award in half and said this half of this belongs to Beyonce, wouldn't be here where I am. People are saying that you know the time Kanye West jumped on stage and interrupted and interrupted Taylor Swift like apparently he saved her life that night because that brought attention back to Jay Z and Beyonce. um Yeah there's all this shit and there's also like links too so some people are saying that he did he killed um Tupac
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and Biggie. Because he didn't think Beyonce. yeah
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I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh. Okay. That is crazy. That's crazy shit, right? But there's there's like other rappers that have died that apparently is linked to... It seems like he's some sort of, well, gangster. Mob boss, yeah. Mob boss, yeah, that is just like fucking knocking people off if they disrespect him and stuff.
00:11:37
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um There's also rumors that he is responsible for Michael Jackson's death. And he was the one who... What about Prince? do You think Prince too? Maybe. Who knows? and But with the Michael Jackson stuff. So obviously Michael Jackson was accused of like pedophilia and stuff. um And that was all like done by Diddy to take
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the spotlight off him for the shit he was actually doing. And they lived like four doors away from each other and there's apparently like tunnels from Diddy's house to Michael Jackson's old house.
00:12:21
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I was gonna say like why Michael Jackson but that makes sense son. who um There's obviously
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Justin Bieber has come out and and sort of alluded to the amount of abuse he received at the beginning of his career. um And obviously he was ah sort of, I guess, mentored by Asha. And Asha was very in with Diddy at the time and took Justin Bieber to these parties. So it would seem that he was passed around at these parties potentially.
00:13:04
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A lot of crazy stuff. I also read a thing the other day about how there was an incident I think back in the early 2000s or 90s when J-Lo was with Diddy.
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and they went to a club did he brought a gun but apparently J-Lo had the gun or like took the gun in for him and some kerfuffle happened and the gun got shot and some i don't know woman like it like scraped her face and could have potentially killed her and she was like made to be silenced and stuff um but has since come out and said like all this stuff and it was diddy starting like a gun war and shit i don't know yeah a lot of crazy shit going down
00:13:55
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Yeah, I'm looking at this New York Times article because they kind of have the, here's the latest, here's what we know. And it says like the federal indictment does not provide details of the arson accusation, but other and other court papers, prosecutors describe a sequence of events similar to those in a lawsuit that said Mr. Combs orchestrated the fire but bombing of the car owned by Kid Cudi. Ah, yep, that's one of them. And
00:14:23
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the freak offs which is the either post white party or in addition to white party parties that was like basically the hotel really like deviant and like dangerous and non-consensual like sex parties that were called freak offs um highly orchestrated performances of sexual activity in hotels and other locations that were fueled by drugs and could last for days. At these events, the government says women were applied with drugs to keep them obedient and of course to participate in sex with male prostitutes. can
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um and that law enforcement seeped various freak off supplies, including narcotics and more than 1000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant, which is would explain why I kept saying stuff about baby oil yeah on Twitter. That explains that. Yeah, I didn't know what that was really about. I thought I think maybe I I i thought it was related to Diddy, but it's also like, OK.
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um
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What else?
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Yeah, the lawsuit with Cassie Ventura.
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She accuses of him rape, physical abuse, and forced sex with prostitutes. And then the footage that was published by CNN and then I think maybe even the defense team for Diddy sued because they thought it was like leaked or inappropriately released. And it's like, well, you don't really get a right to privacy when you're in a hotel room. And yeah.
00:16:06
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It kind of goes back, it makes me think of there's probably non-disclosure agreements, kind of like what we heard about when the reckoning with Me Too and like Harvey Weinstein and ah like the courts were like, yeah, you know what? Non-disclosure agreements are actually not enforceable in the way that these are even. So even if they sign and get paid, they can still talk about like the crimes that they you know were victims of. Yeah, I think if you're being you know abused, coerced, raped,
00:16:33
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held against your will then you've got a right to release evidence that proves it. Did he also apologize for his behavior on the video with Cassie so like they I think he got you know chart there's a civil lawsuit but I think his attorneys probably tried to like get it taken down but then he said something about like I hit rock bottom my behavior and that video is inexcusable and I take responsibility for my actions.
00:17:02
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He's deleted that. Well, not fast enough for it to be available elsewhere. um He's currently denying the other. He says, let me be absolutely lee clear. I did not do any of the ah awful things being alleged. And this article was published um September 25th. The one I was looking at earlier from the 4th is I think now starting to pivot to, well, I got names of other people if this is the way it's going to go.
Impact of Scandals on Celebrities
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and I think that's what I've seen a lot of on Twitter was like we're going to release these names of these other people who are complicit and it's like speculation about who it is including, I think, Jay-Z and Beyonce. Do you think that's true? like and How is that going to impact you if it turns out that like they are somehow implicated in this?
00:18:02
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I mean, not that fussed about Jay-Z, like I think we've spoken before about how their relationship could have been seen as a bit questionable because he was like nearly 30 when they got together and she was like 19 or something like that. um But yeah, I will be upset if she's been involved in like murdering people and these weird fucking parties. Because you just assume that Beyonce is squeaky queen, Queen B, you know?
00:18:35
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yeah Yeah, I'm interested to hear these names because that's going to be interesting. Apparently Jay Cole's song, She Knows, links combs to the infamous celebrity deaths like Aaliyah's too. Oh yes, Aaliyah, that was another one. um There are a few others I can't remember. I should have taken notes when I listened to the voice note. But yeah, it's really fucked. I mean,
00:19:05
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M&M and 50 Cent have been trying to tell people for years in their lyrics. So it's obviously known in the industry because I've also seen other videos of like people on podcasts and interviews where you know they say they will not work with Diddy because they don't want to lose their arse virginity and stuff like that. It's clearly known in the industry that this goes on.
00:19:41
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Yeah, I mean, there's some things that I have no doubt are true, particularly like even certain aspects of these like freak offs. I mean, I think men in particular who have lots of money and fame have a lot of power and it's like, you know, we hear it's you know like famous bands get women, young girls to come on their bus and p play them with drugs and alcohol and engage in you know sex and consent becomes questionable in those instances or like way too young of women in relationships and stuff like that. um So some of that is really not all that surprising. I think the fact that this is like some sort of like criminal enterprise involving kind of like all a lot of really big names is surprising.
00:20:28
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um along with, you know, like, I mean, we, we know about kind of what Michael Jackson was accused of with young girl boys and like Justin Bieber being really young, like, and there's all these kind of conspiracies about famous liberals who have like child sex trafficking rings. That's like one of the things that QAnon and like a lot of really kind of extreme right-wing people kind of say about, like do you remember when that furniture company Wayfair became like apparently like the transportation for children?
00:21:05
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yeah who are being sex trafficked. Some of the things it's like, okay, if this are really happening and like this is being publicized as a thing now, like someone's going to look into it and like they're going to get caught right like with the things people are posting.
00:21:21
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as evidence. It's like if that's real, then that's going to be uncovered and unless it like goes straight to the top. you know The government doesn't care. I don't know, but the fact that the government is federally charging him with these things makes me wonder how long they've been looking into it and just like yeah gathering evidence and not saying anything, which is concerning because it's like how long did it go on for then when there was like probably known that this was happening. That's it. and The fact that they raided all of his homes at the same time, that's a very organised operation.
00:21:54
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yeah And clearly an attempt to stop him from fleeing anywhere. Yeah. Cause wasn't he trying to like go to the Bahamas or something? I don't know what extradition laws are like there, but I suspect probably pretty, pretty strict. But then like you were saying ah it's sort of about the other stuff and all the other sort of sex trafficking rings, you know, all the Epstein stuff, who that was all going to come to light. And then all of a sudden he allegedly killed himself in prison.
00:22:23
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right when he was going to release all these names so when there's potentially really powerful people involved do we get all the truth will we ever find out exactly what happened or is this just going to be buried like all the other cases that come to light yeah i mean this thing from it's kind of like it's the it's called the root and apparently they've published a lot of the conspiracies out there, but Diddy's former bodyguard said politicians participated in the mogul's famous freak-off sessions and Diehl, who worked for Combs in the 90s, stated that the producers' indictment may expose high-profile officials. This is all bigger than Diddy, but like i as far as I can tell, the indictment hasn't, right? No. I mean, all we can hope for is that the trial is televised.
00:23:23
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Great. One, that would be so juicy to watch. And two, nothing could be twisted that way. Nothing can be hidden.
00:23:34
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um
00:23:38
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I think they should do that. I agree. Do you remember when the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial was going on? Yeah. I mean, that was fascinating in a way um for a couple different reasons for me, the celebrity aspect of it. Yeah.
00:23:53
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And then also kind of like the details about abuse and then how each person was being conveyed. And we don't have to necessarily go into all of that today and my thoughts on that, but like it, it really highlighted, I think some some of the things that are maybe kind of troublesome about society and like what we care about, you know? Yeah, for sure.
00:24:18
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Yeah, this, I just, so Tony Busby who's advocating for 120 individuals who've come forward with allegations and he also says that the arrest and indictment gave people a little more comfort that they can safely come forward, which is good.
00:24:43
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and why it's important sometimes for I think people to, you know, vocalize stuff so it can give, you know, other people, you know, kind of the confidence to come forward about things because that's a problem in sex abuse cases. you um But Khloe Kardashian, Megan Fox, Pink, Usher, ah those are all some like people who've kind of scrubbed it ties, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ashton Kutcher, Mila Kunis, they're all listed.
00:25:13
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I mean, the thing is, like, if say if you're new to this industry or, you know, you're just gaining traction with your career and you get invited to Diddy's house for a party, you don't necessarily know about this shit. Yeah, you're going to go. Like, I'm sure loads of people are implicated in these parties. It's, I guess, trying to work out who was engaging in illegal activities.
00:25:41
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Yeah. Or if they were victimized, right? Yeah. Or if they were victimized, yeah. Like it sounds like with Bieber, he probably was a victim, but it also probably, if it's true, helped maybe with some of his fame or kind of assent to fame. And then did he also become kind of like a perpetrator at some point? Who knows?
00:26:05
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He definitely, like these days, kind of looks like someone who's maybe experienced some trauma. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, I saw something that said, like, Usher brought him to the party as a gift, oh god yeah which is a weird way of introducing a protege like that you're trying to help with their career.
00:26:30
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I mean I'm sure if that's actually true and that was the motivation behind it that was it was oh no people are gonna love you yeah ah but it's really difficult because like
Music Controversies
00:26:43
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all these are well a lot of these artists are people that I enjoy listening to their music not necessarily Diddy I've not really he'd been a huge fan of Diddy but like Asher I really enjoyed his albums and he's got like a resurgence you know yeah
00:26:58
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um So maybe I should just listen to all all the music I liked as a teenager now. and Get it out of the way. Before it comes to light that it's like Did you ever like Lost Prophets? Not like a super big fan but you know of course there were ah like I think some of the singles that were really popular that I probably sang along to, but it's so funny, I just mentioned them the other day, because I was listening to Brand New, and Brand New has got its own problematic. And I really love that band, right? And I was like, well, you know, it's not lost profits level of like, disgusting, abusive, deviancy. I mean, he, like, child predator to the max, right? And it was like, the stuff when that came out, it was so, so horrifying. Yes. Yes. And I,
00:27:50
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I don't think I've listened to them since that came out. I can't, I won't. Maybe you and I have talked about it offline, I can't remember, but like R. Kelly, you know I learned recently when I was in Maine that ah proceeds from his songs now go to victims. Oh, really?
00:28:12
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that The joke was, we can listen to R. Kelly again. now you know whether I really only liked remix to ignition. I don't think I listened to anything else by him, because I had said, we can't listen to that. And then someone was like, no, his proceeds go to victims now. um So I was like, oh, OK, cool. um And that should probably be what happens, because I think people, if they care about this, like they have a hard time reconciling their strong feelings about the music and separating the music from the artist, right? um And I get it. like Same with Michael Jackson. I think ah for me even, not that I'm a huge fan, like R. Kelly was an easy line to draw, Lost Profits was an easy line to draw, but even like Michael Jackson or Prince, Prince had some kind of
00:29:00
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stuff that I didn't love. um Like I think he like punched Sinead O'Connor or something like that. Did he? Yeah. Yeah. And she was just like, I think kind of being an advocate or standing up for herself or someone and he like, I think he slapped her or punched her and was kind of, has had his own anger issues and other things, but people like really lionize him. Um,
00:29:27
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So, but I don't think that like having the standard of perfection is necessary, but like I do have a problem with like lost profits, like capitalizing on their fame to engage in this behavior. Right. I kind of feel sorry for the rest of the band. Cause I'm like, you guys didn't know anything wrong, but I can't listen to you. Was it just the lead singer? Monster. Yeah.
00:29:51
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yeah yeah It's weird though because I've always been in the Michael Jackson's innocent camp. I'm not really sure why.
00:30:05
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I just- I think he was civilly sued, but I don't know if he lost that lawsuit or not. No, I think he might have paid them off.
00:30:16
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which I can't remember normal sort yeah circumstances that would make me think well they're guilty but I don't know there's just something about the Michael Jackson thing that he was so sort of abused by his father and was a child star and the way he I've watched a lot of documentaries about it and the the way he is with kids isn't in a predatory nature. It's that he is trying to be a kid because he never had a childhood. And I don't know why that indicates why that makes me. I think you're thinking about the intent behind it.
00:31:04
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yeah The intent is somehow less evil. It's more innocent than R. Kelly, Petey. But I think we could probably also say that maybe those men experienced some trauma or difficulties in their childhood too.
00:31:21
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you know Well, yeah. Trauma, you know, abuse stems from trauma, doesn't it? Yeah. two of cases I mean, and being black in America, it has its own generational trauma that gets passed down too. But so sure, I think you can probably look at culpability and intent behind actions and like whether Michael's was somehow less predatory or based on power and more about kind of
00:31:52
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developmentally, but he also had the ability to get access in a way that he wouldn't have if he wasn't a famous person.
Government Investigation into Diddy
00:32:01
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And I think he knew that, but and I think it was because with him, it was always the parents that were suing.
00:32:10
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But the children he spent time with always said he never did anything. We just had fun and played around. Sure. of Maybe there were some blurred boundaries, but nothing. and He was acquitted in the civil case too in 2005. So, but that also to me doesn't necessarily, it just means there was no evidence. That's why we say we don't say innocent. We say not guilty or acquitted, right? Yeah. Well, I guess we'll never know now. RIP.
00:32:40
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Yeah. And maybe that was Diddy's fault. Well, his yeah, that was on my birthday too. It was like, come on. I just wanted to have this one day to myself. Thanks, Diddy. Fucking ruining my birthday. Well, stay tuned on this. I think we'll probably continue to like explore this topic and watch for bombshells and talk about it more because I am curious to see if it's going to roll out the way that we're seeing online and kind of on TikTok, which I'm not saying is the most reliable news source, but if we start seeing other people implic implicated, I think that's gonna have, people are gonna have a hard time with that. Yeah. Stay tuned, folks.
00:33:35
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Well, should we, um, jumped something a little, a little less deep, maybe, a little less, why not? You know, heavy.
00:33:48
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So I came across this list of proposed amendments to your constitution that didn't pass.
Historical Constitutional Proposals
00:34:03
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hu ah And I thought we could run through them and just get your thoughts on whether you think that was a good idea or a bad idea. yeah okay Okay, so in 1876, there was an attempt to abolish the United States Senate.
00:34:28
Speaker
Just the Senate, not the House, huh? Or all of it, you know? Okay. Do you have any more context about that? Well, it didn't pass because, interestingly, okay, so amendments need to pass with states. Do you have anything on there about what exactly is needed for an amendment to pass or do I have to look it up because I can't remember? Are you going to look that up?
00:34:54
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Okay, so an amendment may be proposed by two thirds vote of both houses of Congress. And if two thirds of the states request one by convention called for that person purpose, the amendment must then be ratified by three fourths of state legislatures or three fourths of conventions called. So basically the states ultimately have to like, yeah. Right. And so there's a proposal and ratification process, but it's interesting that it says both houses of Congress. I assume they mean the house and the Senate. So like,
00:35:23
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the Senate had to vote maybe on whether it should be abolished. yeah And maybe some people were like, yeah. Yeah, actually, I don't want to jump. I'm ready to retire. Okay, also in 1876,
00:35:43
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They wanted to pass the amendment um for the forbidding of religious leaders from occupying a government, a governmental office or receiving federal funding.
00:35:55
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Interesting. Okay. So basically if you're a pastor, you can't be, can't be in government, can't be in government, federal government anyways. um I mean,
00:36:12
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I don't hate that idea. If I really thought about it, i might I think I might have some thoughts, but especially nowadays when I've seen things about like Christian nationalists trying to like get into government to make our government like kind of more aligned with Christianity,
00:36:33
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um and probably get rid of separation of church and state or whatever, because they think that that somehow is the reason why things are the way they are. um i i I don't hate that idea, but I suspect it was probably offered for reasons that I would be curious about in question. Now, getting money is interesting, because I think the the feds like give money to States in a variety of things because of different programs and laws that allow them to do so. And there's usually strings attached. One of the things I remember from law school is like, oh, the purse strings. you know And that was one of the things was that stuck out to me was the drinking age. and
00:37:19
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States can set their own drinking age, right? But the feds made it, so like if you wanna get federal money from us, then you should set your drinking age to 21. Otherwise, you're not gonna get these funds for roads or something. Yeah. But isn't it in America as well that churches or religious groups are tax exempt? Yeah, they have to like qualify for ah certain classification like you can't just be like well I'm a church like I couldn't just say I'm a church now so I'd have to like apply for a status in order to but yes that is true I believe oh here's a cracker in 1893 they proposed renaming this nation the United States of the earth
00:38:13
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it
00:38:16
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That is so egotistical, like as if we're the only country on earth. So therefore we'd, oh my God, people have. And apparently as part of the same proposal, there was also ah a suggestion to abolish the United States army and Navy. So, so rename.
00:38:43
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to United States of the Earth and no longer have any military. I mean, you know what? That sounds kind of like hippy dippies in love. I suppose it does, yeah. Like, no more war? Yeah. I mean, that's honestly not really what would happen. But when was that proposed? 1893. OK, so it's not like as a result of? They were ahead of that time. Yeah, like the hippies. Before the 16th. And they were like protesting the wars. OK, interesting.
00:39:11
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the United States of the Earth. Would we just be short? Would we just shorten it to Earth like we call it America? Yeah. So, oh yeah, I'm i'm from Earth. I'm from Earth. What the fuck?
00:39:27
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I'm renaming America a lot now, okay? Oh yeah, my Earth-akin mate, Kate, talking shit with an Earth-akin and a Brit.
00:39:42
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Okay. In 1894, they proposed acknowledging that the constitution recognize God and Jesus Christ as the supreme authorities in human affairs.
00:39:55
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ah
00:39:57
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Okay. You know, it's weird how like, separation from church and state, blah, blah, blah, but how much religion and God does appear in kind of the founding you know concepts of our nation and in a lot of ways isn't like separated, like the Pledge of Allegiance, all of that. so And it's supposed to be still there to this day. yeah you know yeah So they someone basically is like, let's just be honest about what we're doing here.
00:40:29
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This one you'll love. Is it about cats? No, I'm being sarcastic. In 1912, they wanted to make marriage between races illegal. Oh, yeah. We had to have a whole Supreme Court case about that. Wow.
00:40:47
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called Virginia Villa, yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised that someone actually tried to like explicitly ban it because that's the whole purpose of the Supreme Court is interpreting the Constitution. Like the the Constitution doesn't say a lot of specific things about like what we can or cannot do, right? Like it doesn't say anything about abortion specifically, but Supreme Court justices have had to use like the right to privacy, due process clause, a lot of things like that to interpret like laws ah but and constitutionality of things.
00:41:16
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And so I think because it wasn't specific, it doesn't surprise me that someone or a group of someone's were like, we should just be really specific about interracial marriage. In 1914, they wanted to make divorce illegal.
00:41:34
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Of course they did. Cause that's against God's will. It's not in the Bible. We shouldn't be able to allow it. You know, just like project 2025 wants to like kind of bring back fault, find it fault, fault based divorces, but also get rid of the whole. Hey, do you reckon they looked at this list? I'm just like, absolutely. They did. I'm sure they're like, I'm sure they did but i did. Yeah. We need to bring back some of these amendments proposals.
00:42:04
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In 1916 they proposed that, now I quite agree with this one, that all acts of war should be put to a national vote and anyone voting yes has to register as a volunteer for service in the United States Army.
00:42:20
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It's an interesting idea for sure. Um, I think there's probably a couple of things that might be a challenge, which is like voting is private, who you vote for is private and so, or what you vote for is private. So like by voting yes, requiring people to register is, I don't know how. I guess it just wouldn't be anonymous in that.
00:42:42
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Yeah. Or it's like, if yes, then also select yes for registering for, I don't know. But I think it's interesting because right. I No. And I think I get that motivation behind it. um Because as of right now, I believe the president has like exclusive authority to declare war. Or does Congress contribute? I think Congress can too, but I think it's like part of the executive function to also do that. Now I'm going to check myself on that one. Like there's a lot of things in ah like UK government and UK law that are just voted for internally within the government. And I'm like, why aren't these things put to the public? It's a good question when they're, you know, important laws that are going to affect
00:43:40
Speaker
ah citizens of this country. we should have like Imagine if Brexit wasn't put to a vote to the people though, which I'm glad it it was because I think that's a thing, but also had it not been, I wonder what would have happened because of all of probably the lack of information around voting. I'm going to correct myself too, because I'm going to feel like an idiot and I do. It's Congress. Constitution grants Congress the exclusive authority to declare. Right. But I think there are certain things that the president can do
00:44:11
Speaker
because he's the commander in chief, or she is the commander in chief technically. That's short of declaring war, and then after war is declared, they can do a lot of things, so. right Don't flame me for being dumb, folks, okay? I only can remember so much. You're canceled. But yeah, i ah back to what you just said, which now I can't remember.
00:44:38
Speaker
putting it to the vote of the people. Yeah. So that was in 1916. And then they tried again in 1936, an attempt to allow the American people to vote on whether or not you know United States should go to war. So someone clearly wanted this to happen.
00:44:54
Speaker
I mean, I guess here's the deal is like technically by voting in and voting for our president and our representatives and our senators, we vote for people who support what we support. oh And so then they're supposed to vote for their constituents, but there's a disconnect between what what Congress ends up passing and and proposing. And I think they're constituents, you know?
00:45:19
Speaker
yeah I think that's the problem with our so-called democracy at the moment, and isn't it? Yeah. In 1933, there was an attempt to limit personal wealth to $1 million. dollars how much of How much is that in today's money? That's a good question. $1 million in 1933.
00:45:49
Speaker
would be I'd be okay with that. Do you need more than that? I don't think so.
00:46:04
Speaker
um i And I guess this isn't saying everyone gets a million dollars. it's But I wonder what happened. like So you have to just forfe like forfeit the rest that you earn. There would be a chilling effect, I think, on like entrepreneurial thinking if that were to be the case. But I get it. And I think probably there is a way to kind of achieve whatever that was. Oh, like pay taxes based on how much money you earn. There's an idea. Yeah.
00:46:35
Speaker
I had this thing the other day, um which blew my mind. Hold on, let me just look it up.
00:46:50
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So, right, if ah if you had a billion dollars, which, are you know, there are a lot of people who do, right who do and you spent $1,000 a day, how long do you think you would be spending that money for? How long would it last? My whole life. 2,740 years. Yeah. You wouldn't, there's no way you would be able to spend it. So that means also you could spend $10,000 a day and still not run out of money. No.
00:47:31
Speaker
So you don't need that much fucking money. Give it to poor people. But what if I want to buy a million dollar thing one day? Then I can't spend any more money for the rest of the next years. Okay Elon Musk. You're stupid. You don't need that much money. Capitalism is stupid.
00:47:55
Speaker
yeah Okay. In 1938, they pro proposed the forbidding of drunkenness in the United States and all of its territories. Oh, was that prohibition? Is that too real or too late for prohibition? I don't know. Is the booze okay? You just can't get drunk. Yeah, you you get allowed to drink, but you're not allowed to be drunk people. What was prohibition?
00:48:25
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ah prohibition was 1920 to 1933. So we had prohibition and then five years after it was repealed, someone's like, okay, we got to rethink this. We had that catching up few years.
00:48:46
Speaker
Prohibition is a really good example of like not having enough understanding about what you're doing and the consequences of that because of like It was repealed because of the unintended consequences. And I'm thinking about like the war on drugs and like what that meant for black and brown people in society and all of that, because like no one in leadership cares to be like, what could this mean for the people that it's affecting? Yeah. I don't want to think about that, Kate.
00:49:20
Speaker
I wonder if the people who wanted to like effectively, well, we're not talking about getting rid of booze, just drunkenness. There's a difference. You can still drink, but like you have to limit it. And I'm sorry. That that's just going to disproportionately affect women because we're of like such a gentle, delicate nature that we get drunk way faster.
00:49:46
Speaker
And you know, We tend to drink wine, which is actually a lot more alcoholic than beer. Mm-hmm. Like a whole bottle of wine. Each glass is, you know, 11%. 46 beers. 46 beers a glass. Exactly. So it's not fair. Nope. Whoever did that hated, whoever proposed that hates women. Yep.
00:50:15
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um In 1947, they proposed that the income tax maximum for an individual should not exceed 25%. And that didn't pass? What is there right now? Oh, why would you know? I'm sorry, I don't know why I'd ask you that. In England, it's, well, it depends on what you earn, but below the the upper threshold, it's 20%.
00:50:45
Speaker
And then it goes up to 14 and then 50, I think. Okay. Income tax rates. It appears to stop at 9.85%. What? You lucky bastards. Yeah. I don't know. I don't, taxes hurt my brain. yeah So I could, I could be looking at the wrong thing. Oh, this is from Minnesota. I need the feds.
00:51:12
Speaker
Okay. 10%, 12%, 22%, 24, 32, 35, and 37. Okay. So they wanted to cap it at 25, but it goes up to 37. Depending on what you earn. Well, yes, because you're in, like you fall into a bracket yeah based on your your annual income and that's how much you're taxed, right? But I think there's something about like, it's only the amount over that rather than the whole amount. So like, yeah I'm,
00:51:38
Speaker
in one bracket and I earn, yeah. So yeah like our tax system is very confusing and fucked up too, but I also just like, if I earn, bill if I'm Jeff Bezos, yeah like 37% is probably like a couple weeks worth of earnings, profit, like huh fucking calm down.
00:52:02
Speaker
tax the fucking rich. All right. And this is spoken like a poor person. I get it. Yes, I agree. oh I think it's, you know, like one, the amount of money that governments could earn from these super rich people would help, especially in England, you know, the struggling infrastructures, public services that are on their knees.
00:52:30
Speaker
All you need to do is, and I'm not talking about just, you know, people that are in earning a decent wage, you know, a hundred grand or whatever. You're fine. I'm talking about multi-million billionaires. Obscene, obscene, unheard of, just like incomprehensible amounts of money. Like you, as we've just proven, you cannot spend that money in your lifetime. It would probably take a good fucking 10 generations.
00:52:59
Speaker
for your family to spend that amount of wealth. And that's assuming they didn't add to it or do something to it to continue it to grow. Exactly. And the more money you do- If it just sat in your closet. Yeah. In a shoe box. Yeah. Yeah. Text the rich motherfuckers. Okay. Final one then. In 1971, so not that long ago,
00:53:25
Speaker
I quite like this one. um They propose that American citizens should have the alienable right to an environment free from pollution. Would it be inalienable? It says alienable. I feel like alienable is the opposite.
00:53:46
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Yeah. Able to be transferred to new ownership. So, so I can no longer make sense, but cause inalienable, right? Means like there's nothing that can be done to like negate it. Right. So I get rid of he all pollution. I mean, I kind of like it too. I feel like especially since we know like poor,
00:54:15
Speaker
communities that aren't like majority white, get the factories that pollute, get the the things that truly impact yeah their quality of life. Um, so i I don't, I mean, I think for that to pass as an amendment.
00:54:34
Speaker
and be in the Constitution, um it would, like let's say that happened today, or even in 71, because I'm sure the issue still existed then too, but maybe not to on the scale that it is now. um it like so many It would take so many years to like actually achieve that, that there'd be so many lawsuits, I bet, saying like unconstitutional, which probably is what is necessary, but it just, knowing what I know now about the government and people who don't believe in climate change. Well, exactly. yeah I think if that had happened in the 70s, then we might be in a very different place right now. yeah We might not be having these fucking huge hurricanes that are destroying Florida. Yeah. and In North Carolina, or South Carolina, one of the Carolinas. Oh, carolina
00:55:21
Speaker
Nana, nana, nana, sweet Caroline. Well that was a rollercoaster, my favourite one. I didn't know a lot of those. it's of the earth Henceforth shall be known as the United States of armpits and butts.
00:55:43
Speaker
That is my proposal. I like it. Thank you. Someone commented, the first step towards Super Earth. That's probably their plan. Yeah. Make Earth great again.
00:56:06
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That would be the slogan. I love it. Well, there we have it. um Yeah. Some of them should have passed. Some of them definitely shouldn't have. I just feel like it's like, got a bad idea. Think about making it a proposal to the and amendment as an amendment to the constitution. Why not? Let's do it. Yeah. I like it. Okay. Now I usually end with, and am I the asshole?
00:56:41
Speaker
But we're not today, baby.
Lottery Winnings and Relationship Tensions
00:56:43
Speaker
Not today, baby. Well, it kind of is, but it just wasn't on. Okay. I'm on the other side. You know, anything can be an asshole if you try hard enough. That's true.
00:57:00
Speaker
Okay. I, 23 female, won $10,000 in cash.
00:57:12
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Nice. My boyfriend, who is 24 and male, of four years and I have been having a childish fight and I did something I can't undo. ten
00:57:25
Speaker
What was it? What level of pettiness are we about to hear? You shall see. He's a full-time student who works part-time in the summer. I have a full-time and part-time job. In brackets, he studies a lot.
00:57:40
Speaker
ah We live together and mostly live off my pay while he stretches what he makes in the summer. Neither of us have ever owned a car because it isn't necessary where we live. We both walk or take public transport everywhere to save money. In the morning we stop at a corner shop shortly before splitting up for the day. He buys cigarettes and coffee, I buy fruit for my lunch and on the weekend lotto tickets. He always makes fun of me for paying He always makes fun of me for paying the stupid tax. But I prefer, sorry, i but I figure my indulgence is cheaper and doesn't come with lung cancer. Something I jokingly tell him not to, oh, and sometimes I jokingly tell him not to expect a penny when I win.
00:58:28
Speaker
The day I won, he answered me with, fine, keep it all. It's not like I'm crying over a penny or nothing over here.
00:58:38
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all right mate.
00:58:43
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um I showed him that I'd won and he stared for a bit and then dismissively told me I'd probably spend probably spent more than that on tickets. ah In response I asked what I should blow his half on for myself. I was honestly joking at the time but he suddenly became angrier than I've ever seen him and I didn't want to admit I'd been kidding because he he was so pissed off, it pissed me off. Fair enough. I tell these people are young. He wants a car and I don't. He keeps trying to steam roller me, so I'm refusing to share the money. In all honesty, I'm willing to spend or save the money for us, but I don't want a car. I won't use a car and it will keep costing us money in parking and maintenance. Fair. Yeah.
00:59:35
Speaker
After weeks of him sulking and lettering me about his, in quotes, entitlement to the money, he took me to a car lot and tried to embarrass me into going along with him in front of a salesman. I threw a tantrum after we left without buying anything and I went to my mum's and paid our rent upfront to the end of the year and donated the rest to charity. He doesn't know. I fucked up and I don't know how to come clean. What do I do?
01:00:04
Speaker
Oh, disagree. You didn't fuck up. He fucked up your money, your money. He also sounds like a fucking dick. As soon as you get money, that's what he's going to act like. Dump his ass. That's my perspective. I ah agree. I. They're not married. He's not entitled to it. It sounds like she was also open to.
01:00:28
Speaker
You know, I always lose when I gamble. I don't really do that. I get mad when I put like 20 bucks in a slot or on roulette and lose because I'm like 20 bucks I could of have had. But you have to pay to win. You have to play to win too. So in like she won.
01:00:42
Speaker
Good for her. Sounds like she wasn't going to be a dick about it until he was first. and like like take Putting her in a position where she would have been like, I'm so embarrassed or like ashamed that I guess I will just buy this car that I'm not going to use is so fucked up. like That's so manipulative. I'm glad she stood her ground there. and You know what? Good for her for like basically covering an expense for a while. That would allow her to save and donating it to charity, good for her. I wouldn't have necessarily donated it all. I would have donated some. Maybe all. I don't know. Maybe if I were in her shoes, I would have. But she benefit she did something that benefited them both, would give him an opportunity to save some money if they split the rent and he could buy his own goddamn car then.
01:01:22
Speaker
um and Yeah. So I guess I don't think she fucked up. I don't think she has to come clean about anything if she doesn't want to, but she, you know, if she wants to be like, Oh yeah, I paid up our rent for the year and give the rest of charity. So stop nagging me about it, you asshole. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's like you've read all the comments for this.
01:01:47
Speaker
um i didn't one person said i don't think you fucked up at all another one me neither you spent your money buying the tickets except technically you're winning money it's not like you're married that'll be different he's just mad that he didn't support your buying the tickets in the first place and now he looks entitled i think you spent the money very wisely and plus now he doesn't have to worry about the rent he better not complain hmm Someone else agreed. The only way this would be a fuck up is if OP had a tax bill due and now has no funds to pay it anymore. And that would be her problem. That would be her problem, yeah. All in all, OP, p you sound like a very level-headed person. Your boyfriend, on the other hand, sounds like a huge jerk. Why are you with someone who treats you like that? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
01:02:42
Speaker
Someone else said, you paid the rent upfront for both of you or just yourself? And she said, it's my place from before dating him. I never ask him for rent because it costs me the same either way. OK, well, so then I guess he doesn't have that savings now, but she does. ah And she can kick him out and not have to worry about his deadbeat ass. Exactly.
01:03:10
Speaker
um MetroMetric said, I think you should seriously consider everyone's responses. Your boyfriend does not sound like he's respectful or appreciative of the effort you put into the relationship. That said, do you mean that your dad gave you money when you turned 18? No, this must have been a previous comment. Do you mean that your dad gave you... yeah fucking Oh, Fucking hell, my eyes aren't working. That said, do you mean that your dad gave you money when you turned 18 so that you could get yourself out of an abusive situation if you had to?
01:03:40
Speaker
because that's the first I've heard of a parent doing that, but that's a seriously awesome idea. I know a few women who keep saving specifically but because they want to have, in quote, an escape insurance in case of a situation, but never a parent initiating that sort of savings. If I ever have children, I'm totally stealing that idea. It's a good idea.
01:04:00
Speaker
She said, yeah, my dad sat me down and gave me the grown up talk about verbal and physical abuse and consent, how to recognize it, what to do, how not to be abusive. um And he then gave me this money and explained how to use it. He did this for all his kids, boy or girl. I hate to quote John Mayer because he's kind of a dick, but I think that's what the song, Father's Be Good to Your Daughters, is getting at. Yep. I agree. Oh, there's an update.
01:04:35
Speaker
Right, okay, here we go. Long story short, a couple of months before I won, my boyfriend had secretly dropped out of school to join a Christian rock band. Oh my God.
01:04:49
Speaker
yeah In brackets, he's not Christian. Anybody can be Christian if they dry hard enough. Sorry, go on. He secretly dropped out of school to join a Christian rock band and bartend to cover his new Coke habit, which it's been so much. He took me winning as a sign that they were about to make it and should go on tour. That's why he wanted the car so damn much.
01:05:20
Speaker
Obviously we had a huge fight. I sacrificed a lot because he told me that he'd never be happy without that degree. And he, I told him, because he told me that he'd never be happy with that degree. And he threw it away to play rockstar while I ground myself down at dead end jobs. I told him, I agreed to support him through one dream. And if he was done with it, I was going to chase after my dreams now.
01:05:44
Speaker
He's made all kinds of promises to me about how he'll take care of me when he gets famous. and yeah But I told him the only promises I care cared about were the ones he made to me when I agreed to help him through school. He broke up with me until I, in quotes, come to your senses. As far as I'm concerned, that's already happened. So I had his brother pick up his stuff.
01:06:12
Speaker
He tried to cause problems about me, in quotes, illegally evicting him, but I reminded him that you that I had some text conversations where he said, your apartment, your problem, and I don't live there anymore, so you deal with it. I have no idea if that's legally enforceable, but neither does he. My lease is up in three months, and I won't have to worry about it after that. It's been really rough accepting that he's not the guy I fell in love with anymore.
01:06:39
Speaker
um but the way he's been acting has made it a lot easier. I'm mostly angry, I sunk so much of my time and money and compromised my future for him but I guess it's better that I found out now instead of later. I got tested in case he cheated or was doing other drugs and so far so good. I'm also 9000% sure my ex staged the three break-ins we had in our apartment after one of his friends told me around that time that my then boyfriend was trying to sell my prescriptions and his laptop that I ended up replacing for fucks sake.
01:07:16
Speaker
my god um that were supposedly stolen. I told the cops and his friend agreed to make a statement but I don't know what's happening with that yet. Other than that I'm happy to report that I'm only working one job now and that's actually something I want to do and pays way more. My apartment is much nicer without his junk and now the toilet is never un-flushed and the seat is always down so I've got that going for me too. With all my free time I've rescued a kitty and I'm learning to knit.
01:07:46
Speaker
I was planning on becoming an old cat lady old cat lady, but I also went on my second first date ever. It was with another woman, which was kind of a surprise, but also somehow not. We've got a second date planned and I'm incredibly giddy with anticipation, which is really nice. Oh, and I told my dad how much he liked his dump him fund consent conversation. And he said his grandma gave him one when he decided to get married at 18. So he can't take the credit for that. Thanks for the well wishes everyone. Good for her. She lost 180 plus pounds of dead weight and I'm super happy for her. Yeah, that's really nice. Happy ending in the end and you got a cat. Is there something about Christian rock band and drug habit that don't seem to align?
01:08:44
Speaker
Are we sure it's just not a regular rock band? Maybe the Christians are super co-caps, we don't know. I'm not saying that you can't be spiritual or religious and i have a drug problem. It just seems to me like those two things don't really align. Maybe because he's the non-Christian one, he's like, well, I'm just in a rock band, I guess. Yeah. I'm going to do all the coke I can. Yeah. And I have to share with my bandmates. Oh, what the fuck. Fuck that guy. Good for her. Yeah. um
01:09:21
Speaker
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01:09:34
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01:09:44
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01:10:01
Speaker
Give us your conspiracy theories on Diddy or anything else and what your thoughts were on those proposed amendments. Or if you have any ideas for me to maybe take up the ladder.
01:10:12
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ah
01:10:15
Speaker
And your thoughts on a dump them fund or her dump her fund, yeah anyone having a dump them fund. I do too. um But until next time, it was good. Good talking to you. I was lovely chatting shit with you, my dear.
01:10:31
Speaker
Have a good rest of the day. And you? That's not a question. That's a command. It felt like a question. I know it did. I'm sorry. I meant it genuinely. And you, I hope um hope the rest of your day is wonderful and enlightening and refreshing. I'm going to go get vaccinated. What for? COVID, the flu, you know, usual stuff. Everything? Yeah. All of them.
01:11:01
Speaker
Just give me everything you got. You still got some of that polio vaccine? I want a big chunk of my skin taken out. That's what I'm going to say. I'm going to go right now and say that. Wish me luck. You spend a lot of time on boats. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll see you next time. Bye.