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Another quiet place to conjure
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We're back!! talking about Quiet Place 2, Conjuring 3, Book of Saw, Willy's wonderland, Psycho goreman, and Army of the dead
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Introduction to Fright Central
00:00:04
Speaker
Welcome. For real. All right. Welcome back to Fright Central, where we talk all things horror. I'm Kevin Dock and I'm back here again with Keck. How you doing, buddy? Hey, I'm all right, buddy.
Keck's Surgery & Recent Disasters
00:00:25
Speaker
Just had some fucking really towing surgery, but I'm on the mend and recovering well.
00:00:30
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Yeah, sorry for the delay, everyone. There's been some unforeseen circumstances. There's been mad fucking unforeseen circumstances. Like, my life has been real crazy the last couple months. I don't know about yours.
00:00:47
Speaker
Oh, but like I got locuses like there was like literally we have like cicadas and shit like that. Like biblical stuff has been going on down here. Aside from my surgery, we now have tornadoes. It fucking held like fucking quarter size ale stones the other day. Like it's straight up end times here.
00:01:08
Speaker
I mean, I heard Cal part of California is on fire again, but. I just assume it's always on fire, so I don't really look into it that much. Yeah, it's fucked up to laugh about that. I mean, I've just been working and, you know, you know, watching movies and falling down some rabbit holes and stuff, you know.
00:01:35
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Yeah, I do, I do know.
Alamo Drafthouse Resurgence
00:01:39
Speaker
So I don't I didn't really gather a bunch of news right now the only. I have like two items that I just like happened to see like, say what you got in the past five minutes so I did hear that the Alamo draft houses emerged from chapter 11, and they did announce they're going to open five more theaters.
00:02:01
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Two of them were in DC, I believe. Yeah, two in DC, one in St. Louis, one in Staten Island, and one in Manhattan. Chapter 11 bankruptcy is the bankruptcy that you declare if you want to try to restructure, right? Yeah. It's not what you do the liquid day. Yeah, it was just like a restructuring that the original founder, you know, owner had like Tim Leakey,
00:02:32
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you know, reorganize things so they had like a sale to Altima, Altima Capital Partners.
00:02:41
Speaker
Yeah. Is the funds managed by affiliates of fortress investment group and, and the Alamo draft house founder, Tim Lake. So yeah, I think that's part of like the actual like stimulus bill that got passed is to like help like people file filing for chapter 11. Yeah. So they just filed in like March. So it was a pretty good, a pretty good turnaround for them. Oh, that's nice. I like to
True Story of 'Cocaine Bear'
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hear that.
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And the only other thing I have is this casting news for this upcoming movie that Elizabeth Banks is directing. I'm not even going to tell you the name of the movie yet, but it's going to be starring. Oh, wait, hold on. Elizabeth Banks, give me a title or two that she's directed before.
00:03:27
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Oh, that she's direct. Oh, shit. Sorry. I mean, to put you on the spot like the way the way you said her name, I thought like you like we're going to be able. I thought just a couple of minutes real quick. I just. I don't know. Yeah, she's done some things. Wait, what the fuck? All right.
00:03:46
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I don't know what, like, yeah, sorry, I wasn't I wasn't trying to like sidebar on this. I just I just want you to like give me a reference of like a couple of maybe she's done. But it's really not a big deal. We can just move on. Well, she's she's mainly mostly an actress. So I don't know if she's acting in this one, but it's going to have a Carrie Russell, Ray Liotta, O'Shea Jackson like it already. I don't know this person, Jesse Tyler Ferguson, Alden Enderick.
00:04:15
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But it's called cocaine bear. I don't know if you heard of the story.
00:04:22
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No, I haven't. I mean, I have, I definitely know a little bit about cocaine. Oh, so Elizabeth Banks, she, let's see if she, what she directed, she did, she directed Charlie's Angels, the 2019 one, Pitch Perfect 2, but she's mostly 2019 Charlie's Angels? Yeah, that surprised me too. I was like, really?
00:04:47
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But, uh, yeah, she's been, she's mostly known as a comedic, uh, actor and she's been in like stuff like role models and, uh, um, hunger games and 30 rock and, uh, pitch perfect. Right. And what on American summer, she's Lindsay, she's the reporter that goes undercover.
00:05:11
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and what hot American in the series first day of campus. Gotcha. Yeah.
00:05:19
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So if that helps put
Plot Holes in 'A Quiet Place Part II'
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a face to the again, like I wasn't really trying to get in their history. I just thought like you would give me a quick reference. Like I'm not trying to like talk about like her career. Yeah. So anyway, you were saying, oh, I could have just scrolled down a new movie. Yeah, it's called Cocaine Bear. It's about a it's about a real life hundred seventy five pound bear who died on a pair of cocaine overdose.
00:05:46
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This is the whole movie centers around that. Yeah, it's according to the of the 1985 New York Times article, the bear was found dead among 40. Oh, sorry. Forty opened containers with traces of cocaine apparently dropped from a plane by convicted drug smuggler because he was carrying too heavy a load while parachuting. Oh, that kind of happened in one of the seasons of justified that you'll find out about. But like
00:06:15
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Um, what, how do you, is this like a documentary movie or is this like, this is like an actual, like, this is a drama or like a comedy drama? Uh, I don't know. It could be a drama, horror, comedy. I don't, I don't even know. I just don't know how you talk about that. I just don't know how you film this for 90 minutes. Like, are you, are you going from the perspective of the bear?
00:06:37
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I think it would have to open with the drug smuggler and then like dropping something. The bear finds it, the bear eats the cocaine, the bear dies a short while later. That's a five minute story. No, because apparently he goes on like a fucking like rampage. Oh, and that's true. Or she's just like adding that part in. Like the bear actually goes apeshit and like aches down.
00:07:04
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I because I think it was like was alive for like a while. I don't think it died like right away. Well, then this is just my ignorance. I simply I do not know this story. If you're saying that the bear ate the cocaine like I didn't eat it. It's stored. It's stored in all of it.
00:07:25
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I'm saying, like, if the bear then terrorized the town, it's like a night of like the residents of like small town America, like being terrorized by this bear that was coped out. It's like mauling people. Like, yeah, then I can see 90 minutes. But otherwise, it's like cocaine falls from a plane. Bear eats cocaine. Bear dies like, you know, a half day later. I guess. Yeah, I don't actually don't know. Oh, it's nickname is Pablo Escobar.
00:07:57
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this is going to be like a comedy yeah i guess i don't i don't know it's fucked up they're making a comedy about like a bear that like suffered and died like i'm assuming like like woke um animal rights people will be all over that shit yeah
00:08:12
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Well, I don't know, like if, if it did terrorize or do anything, I don't know if they just like, maybe somebody found the bear. Then when they found out what killed it, they were like, Oh, it got killed by a bunch of cocaine. And they're kind of like, you know, making up the rest of the story, maybe. Well, maybe it's more about the drug dealers than the bear.
00:08:31
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Well, I think I think it's going to be about the bear. All right. I was just saying like maybe it's like a situation where they find the bear and they see what happens to the bear and see like how rare of a situation that is. And like they, you know, determine the bears like migration patterns and then we're able to like triangulate the route that the plane was taking for its drug smuggling operations. And then like the DEA does like a sting like, you know,
00:08:58
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something like that and like they're able to like force down the plane and the rest of the cartel or something like that. I'm just trying to see how you could make more than like 10 or 15 minutes. Like Barry's Coke, it dies. Don't. Maybe Ray Liotta was the bear the whole time.
00:09:17
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Well, I think of Ray Liao that, you know, with his cocaine thing and like, uh, good fellas. And then he was, I think he was in that movie with Jason Patrick called narc, where he got huge and he acted like he was on coke that whole movie, dude. He put on like 50 pounds pure meat nuts in that movie. That movie was great. I love that movie. That's like probably Jason Patrick's best movie. It was very violent.
00:09:43
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after speed to cruise control. But yeah, anyway, that's all the news I had. So we've watched a bunch of movies. I didn't really get into any new TV shows, I don't think, at least horror-wise. I know there's some new ones out, like the season two of Black Summers out. The first season's really good, but if you're tired of zombies, which I know you are,
00:10:11
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that don't bother, but if you want something different than Walking Dead, I highly recommend the first season. If it was going to be like something like new, like, for example, like 28 days later, I was tired of zombies when that happened. But like when I saw that and it was like a totally like kind of like an original take on it, like I'm totally cool with that. Like if you want to do something that's like original and like, you know, I mean, like unique and like, you know, you know, bold and ambitious.
00:10:41
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then that's totally fine. I'm not totally against that point subject, but it's just this stuff that we're being force-fed right now is just such repetitive crap to me that I just can't get behind it. You should check out Girl With All the Gifts then if you want something a little different take on zombie movies. It was really good. But yeah, I'm looking at my list. I didn't see any new horror-wise. I watched a lot of more fantasy.
00:11:12
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uh, comedy stuff recently, but, uh, movie wise, I've, I've ripped through since we've last, uh, talked, I've read through like six different movies. I mean, I've seen spiral book of Saul, uh, Zack Sires army of dead on Netflix. Um, the Willy's wonderland, the, the Nick cage battle and animatronics. Yeah. I saw that. I saw psycho Gorman.
00:11:37
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which is on shutter, subtle original. That was pretty good. Quiet Place 2 and Conjuring Devil made me do it.
00:11:45
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Well Conjuring Devil made me do it and then of course Quiet Place 2 I think are like the two big ones I mean those are the ones that like you know made well how much the Quiet Place 2 make in the box office because they were like one of the first films to come out when like AMC reopened right? Yeah I believe it's past the uh the hundred million mark and it was like the first first I think it was the first one to do it post pandemic I'm not really uh
00:12:15
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quite sure what the exact numbers were when it passed it, but it did it did do really well opening. I'd be interested to find out how what the total budget of that movie was, because like to me, like the location, the shooting locations weren't very exotic. The cast was fairly small. And, you know, I mean, the special effects are nothing that I thought would be like groundbreaking that would cost a lot of money.
00:12:43
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And it was also a relatively short movie. I believe it came in that right around I think it was like an hour and 28 minutes. It's an hour and thirty seven. Yeah. So I mean, you know, it was like compared to like, you know, your two hour movie. That's, you know, not that. So I don't know what the budget was. But God damn, did they get one hell of a return on that opening weekend and made a
00:13:06
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47 million. Yeah. And US and Canada and it's gross so far 140 million US and 252 worldwide. But I think you have to kind of asterisk that and put it in perspective. Like I don't think in like the non pandemic era of people had not been like away from the movies for over a year, you know, cooped up at home. Like I don't think it would have done that well.
00:13:33
Speaker
Um, you don't think so. No, I do not think cause I think everybody really likes everybody really liked the first one. So I don't see why you think that if, if things had remained the same, there was no pandemic. You think that it would have grossed over a hundred million this quickly. I mean, it came out like it's been out for like a month.
00:13:57
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But it's only been in theaters. It wasn't on HBO Max. It hasn't been on any streaming service. It's only been in theaters, unlike a lot of other films that have also been available on other streaming services and in theaters. I'm just, no, it's your opinion, man. I'm just asking, you'd really think it would have done that well?
00:14:15
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like you don't think like people would make note that like yeah this was kind of like the big return movie like you know i mean movies opening again like new new sequel based on a popular you know
00:14:30
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No, because I mean, like, yeah, but I mean, it's not even like the first movie back. I mean, you had Godzilla vs. Kong was kind of the first big movie that was back. That's true. You know, that's that's a valid point. But that's the only thing is Godzilla vs. Kong, I guess, is
00:14:50
Speaker
I guess I feel like the audience. Well, you know, maybe not. I guess Godzilla versus Kong would actually be a more universal picture that people would go to say when a quiet place part two would be for people that more were just into horror movies or just bringing a date to, you know what I mean? Yeah, that physical interaction is like now a thing again.
00:15:13
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And the other thing with Godzilla vs. Kong, it was also on HBO Max at the same time. So that's another reason not as many people ran out to the theaters to see it. But it was also still like at the time, it was like what, March when that came out? So it was like still at the time when like people were just getting vaccinated.
00:15:36
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Yeah, and like now we're at the point where like people have already gotten their second shot and they're like, okay, we're ready to go back out again. So I think at the time Godzilla con con came out. My whole point that quiet place was exclusively released in theaters. Yeah, it wasn't available for you to watch at home. So I'm thinking that it's one of the few films since the pandemic
00:16:00
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has arguably gotten under control, that people go, that's the only thing I was like, you know, I got that. I guess we'll never really know. Yeah. Well, I can tell you the budget was 61 million. So it's definitely made its money back and then some. Yeah. And then some. Yeah. And then a lot. Yeah. And I know he's already planned. He's planning on another one, a third one. John. There's going to be a quiet place, part three.
00:16:27
Speaker
Yeah, and I know he, uh, John Cransey picked, I think it was Tom Nichols to do, uh, to do like a spinoff. So, uh, so a quiet place, Hobbs and Shaw. Well, why don't you talk a little about, because that actually, like to me, that's a possibility for redemption because there's so much of that story that makes absolutely no fucking sense to me that like a third movie, like,
00:16:57
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I wasn't a fan of the second one so like normally I wouldn't want to see a third one but I think in the case of A Quiet Place like a longer third movie that's sort of like a prequel to the first two movies would be exactly what that franchise needs. I mean it is now a franchise if it's going to get spin-offs and they're going to do a trilogy.
00:17:18
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Yeah, you know what I mean so it would be it would be a franchise and yet, like I said, I did not think the story was very well written so there is like tons of room for writers to go through that and drastically expand on the story. And I'll get a little bit more into that but what were your thoughts.
00:17:38
Speaker
Well, according to the playlist, Paramount Pictures has set aside March 23rd, 2023 as the date for a new feature film set in a quiet place world to be held by director Jeff Nichols. The new film is not expected to be quiet place part three, but it's being described as a feature film brought in the landscape already detailed in Kranzke's first two features. So expect the new crop of characters to be fighting the sound based monsters.
00:18:05
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And I believe it's based on an idea by Kranzke. And I believe like Kranzke like hand-picked Nichols to do it. Well, I hope it surprises me. What I'd really like is it to be like sort of a prequel, like, you know, that makes like sense of the nonsensical.
00:18:30
Speaker
Well, why don't you tell me what you found nonsensical about it because I actually really enjoyed this and I thought it was. This is this is what I thought the first.
00:18:39
Speaker
Go ahead. The first movie, what I thought was absolutely ridiculous, was that there was just no explanation to anything. And someone could make the argument, well, that's part of the mystery. They didn't want to hold your hand. But it seemed like the entire world basically got taken over by monsters that could be defeated with a single headshot.
00:19:04
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Like a single headshot with a rifle. And like there was just no explanation of how that happened. They also like, they also did not seem like they were very intelligent monsters. They didn't seem like they were coordinating their attacks. They didn't seem to have like some kind of like unison offensive plan. But yet it gave you the impression from the first film in the first few minutes, like after the child gets taken.
00:19:32
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They kind of like, um, you know, show you newspaper articles that suggest that the earth, the entire earth fell very quickly to these things. And there's absolutely no explanation of why, how they came, like, you know, I mean,
00:19:48
Speaker
it looked like in the beginning of the second one I was real pumped about Quiet Place Part 2. The first like 10 minutes I was like oh awesome this is exactly what I was looking for. Like a lot of background information they're going to explain things they did not in the first one that made the first one kind of silly and like this is and then it and then they suddenly hit the delete button and just went in a totally different direction.
00:20:13
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like they're at a baseball game and suddenly there's like monsters running everywhere and people seem to like sort of expect it like kind of like when they saw the meat like it looked like the way people were reacting they're just like oh shit there's monsters everywhere we should bounce like it just seems like they didn't seem like they were like that shot that happened and i was watching it with someone else at the time and i'm like
00:20:38
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Did it seem like they're a little casual I'm like, yeah, I was like, like, this has happened before right. But like, all you see is like a meteor in the sky, like you know I mean, like similar to like how Pennywise came into the year.
00:20:54
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And like, then after you see like the meteor, like all of a sudden, like shit just starts going down. Like you don't see like a massive crash or anything. No explanation. There's just monsters everywhere ripping everybody up. No explanation. But then later on, we found out that they have a weakness, the high pitch sounds, which is how they're attracted to people. And they can be simply executed with a single gunshot with a rifle held by one hand by a woman carrying a child.
00:21:22
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And that just makes no fucking sense to me. They're like, they're not going to have been able to overtake our most powerful military basis. They have no coordinated strategy, they could easily be eliminated like I don't, I just don't get it and part of me said well let's try to
00:21:42
Speaker
Like let's try to write this story in your head said that it makes sense maybe they were saying that like the earth wasn't annihilated maybe this was happening to a smaller population in isolated region of the world but after seeing the intro to the first one that invalidates that possible.
00:22:00
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because they basically show newspaper articles, recordings, like all kinds of shit of like the whole earth being taken over. So it really makes no sense to me. The goddamn things couldn't even swim. They weren't intelligent. They were just, they were their beasts that are completely
00:22:20
Speaker
they're completely dictated by instinct they kill an instinct based on sound they're like they seem like they're mindless creatures so i have absolutely no fucking idea who decided to do that like you know i mean to me it was just very lazy writing.
00:22:36
Speaker
They, they made the first one I don't know if they plan to do a second one, I would have said, I've heard people say that they did plan to do to the whole time, but like, I, I don't see that because it seemed like it would have been good for just a single movie. And you know you just kind of like.
00:22:55
Speaker
They weren't going to make anything after that. So the original story, they just left a lot to mystery. And, you know, that's cool. Just one. But now that they made two, like they kind of like, oh, like a some something of an explanation. And that just never came. Like it just did not make any rational sense. And yeah, I get it. Monsters coming to Earth and running over. Maybe that being a little bit too rational about it. But like it just didn't make any sense to me. What shit like that infuriates me.
00:23:24
Speaker
like when I see something like that I'm just like dude like me and my boys could handle these things like I don't know it just really pissed me off like I could have like a boombox
The 'Conjuring' Series & Courtroom Drama
00:23:34
Speaker
and a bunch of guys with beers and shotguns and like we'll have a pile around I I just I I do not get it like
00:23:42
Speaker
Yeah, so to me, the story was really bad. It was very lazy writing. I felt like they just did not want to do very much work. And yeah, I just thought it was poor altogether. I thought the acting, the good parts, I thought the acting was very good. I thought it had a great cast that did like a great job acting their roles. But that actually pissed me off even more is because you had quality actors that were acting on shit writing.
00:24:12
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And that's how I felt. Oh, okay. So, uh, yeah. Um, first of all, you couldn't just take him out with a shotgun to the, to the head there. The shotgun was purposely shot in their fucking mouth when it like was mad open and shit. And it was only one shoot one with a three Oh eight ball action rifle.
00:24:34
Speaker
with one hand in the mouth because it was open because of the sound because remember they try to blow it up in the in the other one and they're like yeah but you're trying to hard quickly deduce that they're attracted to sound like the check like and it would take you out you know there's a sound what did the sound that she found
00:24:55
Speaker
didn't attract them, it hurt them because it was, yeah. And that's when that's like the only time you could hit a. Did you see how fast they were? You don't, first of all, you don't know how many there are. If they're super fucking fast and they were just tearing through people, especially in the beginning of the first 10 minutes, the second one where like, I didn't think if they were going to get hit that soon, like they were, he was just like walking down and then just like, bam, like came out of nowhere and everyone's just fucking panics and runs.
00:25:24
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and you just see him fucking tearing through people like as soon as you even got like a shotgun to turn or shoot them you're fucking done dude like you'd have to get that sound to stop them to you know so they can fucking panic and react and open their mouth to shoot them down the fucking throat
00:25:40
Speaker
Yeah, look, I'm saying like, I don't think small town America was equipped to handle that. But like, I think like, you know, our most secure military bases, like, you know, with our most brilliant minds would quickly be able to tell like, oh yeah, these things are kind of like bats, like they're attracted to sound, they hunt on instinct, they're mindless, they're not intelligent. Like, you know, like we have soldiers just throwing flash bangs and then following up with frag grenade, like done.
00:26:09
Speaker
Like, I don't know. I mean, maybe, but like we don't know any of that yet. And I liked how they haven't really gotten into explaining it because I don't need all that explanation. I just monsters are fucking creeping around. You got to be quiet. Just fucking, you know, but at the same time, like we don't know where they're going to take the story. We could see a military side of it. And like what? That's like a prequel or something, then I could get behind it. Or if it was just the one movie
00:26:38
Speaker
I could get behind it with that aspect of mystery. They don't need to explain it if it's just one film. But now that they're making a franchise and like they're talking about all that, maybe they'll explain it down the road like we don't know. But like, yeah, don't do that. Then like, I just like these two, these two films were basically set around that family and that family alone.
00:27:00
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Yeah, so like, yeah, you're not going to get the backstory of how to defeat it, the military and stuff like that. You're only going to get the news clip in because it's not about that. It's about like how this family is surviving in this situation, in this aftermath of this, in this, in the middle of this alien invasion.
00:27:17
Speaker
and shit like i would have gotten an abortion if i was emily blunt i would not i don't know why they were like after they had their one child killed like they were still banging like in the middle of this fucking thing and like they knew a kid was coming yeah like that was such a part of the story that like absolutely infuriated me yeah if she yeah we talked about this i think the last time where like if she had had the kid before
00:27:41
Speaker
uh everything or she was pregnant like if she had found out she was pregnant before everything went down then I completely understand but like the way that they set the time up it was like she was pregnant after like everything it happened exactly yeah it did not make sense yeah I'm saying like I'm not saying like she should have necessarily had like a clothes hanger abortion if she was like
00:28:02
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you know seven months pregnant or something like that when that you know went down like that's pretty grisly and you know but like that's another thing that just did not make any sense to me at all with this story like i felt like the baby was supposed to like you know be something that um attracted you to them more to feel like great sympathy and feel like genuine fear for the uh for the family because they're trying to bring more life into the world that has
00:28:31
Speaker
somehow been decimated in a matter of weeks by mindless predators. And like it again, that was just another thing where I was just like, you know, maybe I'm being too rational, but like this really pisses me off. Yeah, I didn't run into that. I mean, yeah, I think we talked about it last time on Clyde Place One. We definitely talked about her having the kids was a little ridiculous.
00:28:56
Speaker
but yeah I really uh just talking about the second one though I really I did like you said like the first 10 minutes was was really awesome the meteor hits and then fucking everybody fucking scatters you don't see like I was you don't really see where they come from and then it picks up right at the end of the first one
00:29:14
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which I thought was really cool. And like them leaving the house and like, cause they had to, because A, it was, they were flooding out their hiding spot and they're like, you don't know how many more are going to be attracted to all the noise they just made. Although they didn't really leave immediately that she had time to like get some supplies and the girl had time to go to the roof. A lot of time to, you know, just kind of figure everything out.
00:29:38
Speaker
but uh yeah I didn't even know like I since I didn't I kind of skipped out on a lot of the trailers I didn't even know that was Killian Murphy like at all like until like until I was like oh Killian Murphy's in this movie like I was like oh that's sweet and then when he shows up later I'm like oh shit that's still him in that beard yeah yeah I mean that was one of the reasons I was like really pumped too because like I think he's like a great like very versatile actor and I like just about everything he's been in television and film and uh
00:30:08
Speaker
you know i thought he did a great job i thought he acted his ass off i just you know you can't like act if you know like you can't i it just again pissed me off uh i really liked i thought it was at least as good as the first one i thought the first one was probably slightly better but i i think it was still really good i really liked it so if you like i think you have the first 10 minutes like if the first one
00:30:33
Speaker
like they just started and they didn't have the newspaper articles and they didn't have like the television recordings and the audio recordings of like the final news reports. If they left it as a mystery I could get behind this idea because this could possibly be something that happened to like a very isolated like community and like a very rural part of like the country or very rural part of like the world like Canada
00:31:02
Speaker
somewhere in like you know the Pacific Northwest like a small community where all this shit could be like unfolding and like the community just goes dark and the rest of the world doesn't know what's going on or the danger like they could have changed the story up and like done a whole bunch of stuff but like the first like few minutes of the first movie like pretty much like set the stage that this was a global fucking event
00:31:28
Speaker
that like completely altered like life on this planet forever and that's why you know it just did not make sense like you know it just did not add up to me. I stumble into that problem that you had so. I don't know how you can't though because it doesn't make any sense. I mean.
00:31:49
Speaker
Did you did the meteor crash like did I go up and like, you know, take a pay or something and the meteor crash, or they saw something like land or something like that, because it seemed like they saw a meteor in the sky and then we're like, the fuck is that.
00:32:04
Speaker
They saw the meteor and they were like, fuck, we need to like, we should probably, yeah, we need to go. We need to go. What? Turn on the TV, call up a neighbor. You know, that's what they were pretty much going to do. And then like suddenly like it seemed like, I don't know. They just swarmed off of the meteor and like, you know, still in reentry. I liked how they didn't show that. Like.
00:32:27
Speaker
I kind of liked how they just were like, OK, they they came from the meteor. We don't know where where exactly these creatures are from or anything like that. I kind of like how they didn't over explain everything. They didn't like hold your hand and be like, listen, they came in on a meteor. There's fucking aliens running around. That's what they like. That's not the important part of the fucking that.
00:32:45
Speaker
that's the problem. They began to explain things in the first one. They made it clear that this was a massive thing and then they followed it up, which shit that just did not consistently make sense with like how things would go down. Like that's what it was. If that did not exist, I would feel the same way you did. I'd be like, Oh, that's cool. Like, you know, I mean, like if it was all shrouded in mystery where you left, like, you know, in the mind of the beholder, you know, for everybody to kind of like,
00:33:15
Speaker
think like what the backstory could have been or predict like you know what their vision was that like that's cool if you want to leave it in everybody's imagination but they did not do that in the first part of the film like they made like a backstory that they showed like and
00:33:35
Speaker
it just did not go together so if the third one gives us like the answers and the backstory then I think a quiet place could be really fucking cool if not then I just think yeah but what if like the what if they give you this backstory and it's real dumb and stupid and will you be happy just because they gave you a backstory over it like if it's dumb and stupid I can't
00:33:59
Speaker
See, I guess I can't like... You'd be like, oh, thank God they gave us that backstory that helped explain where these things came from. It could be really dumb and stupid. Like, I think it would take away from like the... Well, I can't perceive that it could be more dumb and stupid for them to keep going on and explain nothing.
00:34:18
Speaker
Like, I can't like, and these people are like on this island that was like totally like, what the fuck? Like, oh, man, it just, I, the, like I said, the first 10 minutes, a quiet place too. I was like, all right, cool. Like now I get it. They're doing exactly what I would have done. Like, this is real. This is the movie that I was looking for. You know, this is, and then they just suddenly like stopped and we're like, yeah, we're not going to do that. Instead, we're just going to do this.
00:34:49
Speaker
The end. All right. Well, great. There's no rectifying now. Yeah, I mean, we disagree on this, but yeah, I really enjoyed this one. He didn't so.
00:35:01
Speaker
Make your own make your own opinion. Let us know. I had a good time watching this with my friends. Like, you know, I, you know, I got a sneak peek a while back and like I did have a good time watching the movie and making jokes and like mystery science, staring at a bunch of people that all sort of felt the same way I did.
00:35:21
Speaker
But like, I'm not saying I didn't enjoy it. I'm just saying like, you enjoyed it in a different way than I did. Yeah. Yeah. A bunch of people talking shit about like, what the fuck? Like, you know what I mean? Like, then that's cool. But like, you know, other than that. So, yeah, it was enjoyable. Like, I'm not saying like I wouldn't go see it. But like, I'm not sure if I would pay the full admission price. I don't think I'd recommend that someone like go and pay full price to see this and that the other.
00:35:50
Speaker
Right now, unless your whole unless your reasoning is because I want to support business coming back and I want to stimulate the economy and I am say, with all the shit that they've been through like that's cool, but like I wouldn't tell somebody like oh you want to go see a really good movies and theater for fucking 12 bucks, go see a quiet place part like yeah I would
00:36:12
Speaker
What if somebody came up to you and was like, hey, I really liked Quiet Place 1, should I go see 2? Would you tell them, be like, well, if you liked 1, yeah. Because that's what I would. I'd be like, yeah, if you liked 1, you would like 2. If you liked 1, you're not going to like 2. I would have said, well, I would have asked them a little bit of what they thought of Part 1. And based on what they said, I'd be like, well, I think then you will like this. Or I would be like, yeah, you're going to be like, what the fuck?
00:36:40
Speaker
See for me like I think like like I said I think it was at least like on par with the first one so I feel like if you like the first one you're gonna like the second one. I like the first one didn't like the second one. Really? I don't know. Yeah I really liked the second one. But anyway uh and then what else did you see uh you said you saw a conjuring. Conjuring yeah conjuring. Which is like
00:37:04
Speaker
What like the eighth in the conjuring series but the actual third I think it was the eighth or maybe the sixth I think it was the eighth I think I think there were.
00:37:15
Speaker
um because i wasn't aware of like how large like the franchise was was that all canon like is that all like i believe they are all yeah okay yeah i think but only the only like the conjure movies you know follow like the warrens you know the frauds yeah yeah um i mean that's my biggest problem with the franchise is that the fact that they're like based on a true story then it's like
00:37:40
Speaker
A bunch of frauds like if I had done the first concert by the end of that movie, it would have been like, and it turns out they were frauds the entire time and the fucking, but like I get it it draws people in, like, it is technically based on something that happened, whether it's true or not.
00:38:00
Speaker
It's a really interesting story. I'll get into that a little bit, but like as a movie, how did you feel about it? I didn't think it was really that good. I mean, I was expecting, I was hoping for more of like, correct me if I'm wrong, but exorcism of Emily Rose. That was like a exorcism slash. I sent you a text about it. That reminded me, that was before I saw it and I was like, oh, so I'm going to get maybe like a little bit of like a courtroom drama.
00:38:28
Speaker
mixed with like the the Harlem and so but then when I didn't really get that and like they only showed like the beginning and then like the very end of the courtroom stuff I was kind of like oh I read like the courtroom stuff was way more interesting to me of like how they were presenting their case and stuff then like them going to find out what the thing was or the curse or whatever that was like you know doing everything
00:38:55
Speaker
Yeah, Emily Rose was well done. I mean, you know, the courtroom drama and then scenes of like sheer horror, like, yeah, I mean, that I jumped several times in that movie. I know that Jennifer Gardner, like, injured her vocal cords making one of the screams like there's a particular. I wasn't that carpenter. Wasn't Jennifer. He's a gardener.
00:39:18
Speaker
Oh, yeah, sorry, from Dexter. Yeah. I thought she was really, really good in the movie. And see, the actual story for this bit of the Conjuring actually mostly took place in the courtroom. Yeah. It would have like to actually tell the story and say it's based on the true story. Like it would have really like added up like that would have been a great blueprint for the fallout. Like because the story is very interesting.
00:39:45
Speaker
but like as a movie you just didn't you didn't feel i mean it wasn't it wasn't good yeah it was like man i'm like i get it but like i wasn't like there wasn't any scary moments or anything like that in it so at least that's lots of me i thought the kids like kind of left some things to be desired like i didn't like particularly buy their performance that much
00:40:07
Speaker
the two stars though. I mean I thought they did a good job. I thought the acting quality was good. What special effects it had I thought were like pretty decent. You could definitely see like the homages to like like Nightmare and Elm Street with like the bed and like coming through the bed and stuff like that. Like then there and like the oh I think there was like a
00:40:28
Speaker
boy in fucking Amityville or no uh exorcists one with the priest rolling up yeah uh yeah i was like wow they're just like uh taking all the different uh aspects of different horror movies and they did it was purposely special effects that much yeah yeah like there were there were a lot of
00:40:47
Speaker
points where I was like, oh, here comes the wild CGI fucking crap. And it didn't really happen very often. Yeah. So like, you know, I mean, I thought they had like a good balance there. You know, I'm trying to find the quality in the film. But like, what just sucked again was like the direction they chose to go. And like the actual story, I'm not sure how familiar you are with this. But the main headline was that this man was able to mount a successful defense.
00:41:16
Speaker
based on like his like spiritual beliefs and faith by saying that he was possessed by, you know, some kind of force that made him do this. And because of that, he not only avoided the death penalty, I don't think he was even charged with first degree murder. I think it was manslaughter, manslaughter is what they said at the movie. Yeah, I believe that he actually was out on parole in five years.
00:41:44
Speaker
And the story is about how he was able to avoid not only the gas chamber, but you know what I mean? Basically with this ridiculous defense and like, you know, they could have brought in that it was, you know, it was in a gullible population. It was in the South.
00:42:03
Speaker
it was you know gullible people where their religious beliefs run rampant kind of irrationally and they could have made like a cool movie from the court then back to life experiences like with Emily Rose and they could have like done like a great job and like it would have actually been like a horror movie that would be worthy of the title like based on a true story yeah exactly i mean because the Emily Rose thing although i really like the movie
00:42:29
Speaker
Emily Rose at the end, it says that the lawyer in the Emily Rose case like opened up her files and like you know shed this new light on like you know the surreal and the possibility for the month that in real life did not happen.
00:42:46
Speaker
um you know the uh the girl was a german girl and like the priests were actually found to have been at fault for several areas because they were more concerned about like you know trying to prove the existence of a demon than this girl's health who is probably like schizophrenic and fucking crazy you know what i mean this was in the 70s it was right after they actually said
00:43:12
Speaker
that in the case of Emily Rose, they believe the movie The Exorcist played a role in it because apparently, and this was before my time, but after The Exorcist got released, there was apparently in the next like year or two, like tons of like reported cases of people saying that they had like demonic issues or possession or demons and crap like that, saying all this crazy shit. I think Seanna Sam,
00:43:41
Speaker
even was said to have been influenced by the movie. So I mean, it's like, you know, that that was cool. Like, that was a great story. I think they missed a huge opportunity. Yeah. Yeah, me too. That's that's how I feel. I mean, I'm sure they'll keep making them and their spinoffs. So yeah, whatever. But like, it's not something like like I was like, oh, should I go back and watch like all the
00:44:08
Speaker
the movies in a row because i think i've only seen the first
Quick Takes on Recent Horror Films
00:44:11
Speaker
conjure and maybe the second i don't really remember but like i haven't seen any of the anabels or none or curse la lorona there's a new anabell i believe there's like three of them the one with the doll right yeah yeah
00:44:28
Speaker
Yeah, there's one on, I think, a see you see in the case in the scene where they go to the house, where they're like, Oh, let me take you to the house and you'll take this case and like, it's just custom like yeah we're taking this case.
00:44:44
Speaker
Yeah, I think the Annabelle is new. I think it like just recently came out on HBO Max, like another Annabelle movie. I saw a trailer for it. We thought about throwing it on. I was like, that does not look good. But I'm not sure if I saw any of the other conjuring universe.
00:45:04
Speaker
Yeah, I haven't either. Yeah. Like I said, I think there's like eight of them. So I have no idea. But yeah, I was like, should I go back and watch them all? And then I was just like, nah, I was like, I've seen the first one. So I know like, I know the two characters and I am like, so that's all I felt. I really need it. Just on another Amity though, instead another remake of it or.
00:45:25
Speaker
just another Amityville. If you're going to remake an Amityville, they should just remake Amityville. It's about time before the clock takes over the house. I love that. I'm not sure where that came. I think that was Amityville part four because there's Amityville.
00:45:45
Speaker
There's Amityville 2, there was an Amityville 3, there was an Amityville Dollhouse, there was Amityville It's About Time, then there were like two other remakes. I'm not sure how many. Well, again, I'm not going to sidebar down there, but like, you know,
00:46:02
Speaker
I would have preferred it if like, you know, rather than doing that and like trying to suck people in, saying it was based on true story. Why not just shit out another Amity about that? You know, a good, funny, bad, like, harm, you know, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, they knew they knew bringing it into the conjuring universe. It was it's like guaranteed to make money.
00:46:27
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it makes sense, but it's like really pumped up about that kind of possession, the exorcism that sells. There's actually, well, I guess Bye Bye Man was like a movie I saw a few years back that I thought was going to be absolutely shitful, but ended up turning into a B, like a
00:46:49
Speaker
I really enjoyed it. I keep seeing it pop up and I'm like, man, I'm not watching it because of that title. It looked like insanely stupid and had an absolutely awful title. But like, if you actually watch it, the story was fucking cool.
00:47:05
Speaker
Like you know I mean like and like it had it had elements like I really really enjoyed it, like I watched it several times with several people who also enjoyed it too. I'm not saying like it was going to win any awards. Yeah, the Academy is not like you know like.
00:47:22
Speaker
taking pen the paper or anything like that but like you know for like a horror movie like that was like with mostly unknown actors there weren't really any big names in it that I thought like I thought the story was really fucking cool I thought it was well written I thought the characters were well done
00:47:42
Speaker
special effects, everything. It was a really cool movie. But again, that's sidebarring. But that is by by man. If you have not seen it, you should definitely check that out, doc. I think you will like it. OK, moving on. Yeah, speaking of other huge franchises, I did see the latest saw movies called Spiral Book of Soul, which you don't have that work out for you. You don't need to see any of the other ones to like watch this one.
00:48:12
Speaker
I mean, cause it's like, it's, they mentioned, they talk enough about like, oh, there was a killer. Like, is it the same guy? Obviously not. Cause he's fucking, he's dead like fucking six movies ago or whenever the fuck he died. I don't know when any of those take place still like get up to mistress, even though he was dead. Yeah. There's like copycats and like, you know, his, his proteges. Yeah. Yeah. But this one like pretty much had nothing to do with them. It follows a Chris rock.
00:48:40
Speaker
and his and Samuel Jackson plays his dad and Chris rocks like a cop who bratted out like his partner who like had murdered someone and then was trying to plant a gun on them or something like that so like everyone in the real original
00:48:57
Speaker
Yeah, everyone in the Oh, dude, like it's full of such like, you might as well call that the movie all all cops are bastards movie. Yeah, it's like all the evil cop tropes are all in this movie. Like every single cop had this fucking thing. And like the like, if you if you couldn't guess who the fucking killer was within the first like 15 minutes,
00:49:18
Speaker
you'll get you'll know in like 30 minutes later when like he he's like oh let me borrow your phone because mine's not charged or something you're like yeah you're obvious it's like yeah it's like you're obviously the fucking killer like this is this isn't gonna come back at the whole anyone at all yeah it is like and like the lot of the traps weren't even like that creative it was like if you don't like like the first one
00:49:43
Speaker
The guy like wakes up and his tongue is like strapped to this thing and he's standing on a bucket and like this old underground like railroad and they're like.
00:49:53
Speaker
yeah if you don't like jump down and like have your tongue ripped out like within like a minute then this train is gonna come and you're gonna just get killed and it was like so if you don't fucking like do this immediately you're dead and like that's how like most of the traps were is like if you don't like immediately try to get out like there's no like taking a minute to like think about it
00:50:14
Speaker
So it's like somebody throwing a hand grenade in your fucking hand after they had already cocked it for a couple seconds. So you had to like immediately make like a life decision within like a millisecond. Like they held on to it, threw it at you. And then was like, by the way, here's the pen.
00:50:35
Speaker
Yeah. And then waited five more seconds to throw the pin for you to put it in. Like, yeah, it was like, yeah, I mean, they weren't even that good of like traps or like that good of like kills. Like, I mean, there was one where like glass is flying at this dude while Chris Rock was like using him as a shield while he was like trying to help him get down and shit like that. But like, and it was like a weird tone because like he's funny in some like he says funny shit.
00:51:04
Speaker
and you're like wait and you're like am i like like you you're like want to laugh and but you're like wait was he supposed to be funny here like it like yeah he is but like it doesn't fit the tone of the movie so it's like real weird like i don't know yeah i didn't think it was uh i didn't think it was that great
00:51:22
Speaker
Like that's a problem. I have a Chris Rock. I'm a big Chris Rock fan. I like everything he's done. Comedy wise. I think he's like a very solid comedian. I even like a lot of this standup. Yeah. Like as a serious actor, like, I don't know if it's just like pre-programmed in my mind, but like, I don't know if you saw the last season of Fargo.
00:51:42
Speaker
but like yeah man like Chris Rock needs to just go back to his roots man yeah he's just like he's just a naturally funny guy so like yeah and like the shit he says is like a lot of it is like he might just be stating the obvious but the way like he'll point it out to you and you're just like dude that's fucking funny and like and like everyone else is just like
00:52:06
Speaker
And you're like, why aren't you fucking laughing? Like, you're supposed to be laughing at that. And you're like, oh, he's dead serious. Like, he's not making a joke. Yeah. That's how the last season of Fargo was, too. There were many instances in this where, like, I was like, was he trying to be fun? Like, that face he was making? Like, it is just like, what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. I'm assuming that, like, that would have automatically, like, I was thinking about checking this film out, but, like,
00:52:35
Speaker
I had heard from other people in online that really don't waste your time with it. People were describing Chris Rock in the same way, saying it wasn't really his fault. He just was miscast for the role and that everything else was just kind of cliche and silly.
00:52:54
Speaker
Oh, super fucking cliche. Yeah. But anyway, then I saw, well, I didn't then see, but I did see the Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead, which I really, I really liked his Dawn of the Dead remake with that because that really surprised me. But this one, it was like the whole thing, like it takes place in Vegas and it's like a heist, you know, zombie movie, which sounds really interesting, but like.
00:53:19
Speaker
he was able to make it really boring and out of focus. And the whole thing kicks off because of a blow job. This guy's getting road head and it calls us an accident. I gotta tell you, man, wars have been started based on fucking blow jobs. So you know what I mean?
00:53:37
Speaker
I mean, look at the beginning of American Gods. Look at what's her name? Emily Browning. She started all that whole thing up. That guy would never would have flipped out that hardcore. Like, you know, the deck and the head. Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:54
Speaker
I'm just saying blowjobs are powerful, motivating fact. Yeah, it was just so ridiculous. Like the dudes getting roadhead coming back from Vegas and less army truck who's transporting, I guess, the super zombie, you know, and like they crash and the zombie gets out and like fucking murders everyone and goes to Vegas and starts the Stephen King movie thinner.
00:54:17
Speaker
Yeah. The whole reason that guy gets cursed was because he was getting roadhead and he wasn't paying attention. Once you get the beginning of that. Oh, I remember the beginning of that. Yeah. And he accidentally hits like one of the gypsies and the other gypsy comes up and it's like, you were getting it. Yeah. You know, it all starts because of a blowjob. His life really, really and the lives of people around them really went downhill.
00:54:45
Speaker
Yeah I mean there's like a couple good action like scenes in it but I thought a lot of it was like out of focus.
00:54:52
Speaker
And I was like, is something wrong with this? And like, and like, he doesn't, like, he doesn't sit, he doesn't focus on anything. Like you can't, I felt like the whole thing was out of focus most of the time. Like he doesn't, and there's so many fucking cuts. It doesn't sit on anything, you know, for a few minutes. It's like, he's constantly cutting to something else. They had replaced Krista Leah because, uh, uh, his like, you know, uh, him hitting on underage girls. So like.
00:55:19
Speaker
They cut him out and like replace them with a Tignataro and like she had never met any of the cast and she's like green screened in.
00:55:28
Speaker
and like they had reached out, but she's like a helicopter pilot and like there were only, like she's, there's only maybe one or two scenes where she's like, she's standing like between a fence. So you don't see, they're not in the same shot together. And there's only one other scene where they're like walking along. So I guess she's like next to them, but like you couldn't really tell, but like at the same time you're like, she didn't really have a whole lot to do in this. And then like,
00:55:55
Speaker
I don't know, there's like. I worked in plan nine from our space when what's his name died halfway through and the other guy just rocks a cape over. Yeah. Yeah. And then like, there's like.
00:56:10
Speaker
some weird stuff like there's robot zombies in there like suddenly with no explanation like you like you just see one of the zombies get shot and you kind of see like a blue like instead of red come out and you kind of see like a robotic and then it just cuts away and they never fucking like say anything about it or anything like that and then it's like and it was like two and a half almost three hours long i think i was like
00:56:34
Speaker
Why is this movie this fucking long? It does like no fucking horror movie should be two and a half hours long
00:56:42
Speaker
Well, I mean, if it's really, I mean, if it's like a work of art, you know what I mean? If it's not a work of art, a zombie movie, an hour and a half, hour 45. Well, doc, like you were saying about quiet place, part two, maybe like an hour and a half. It's not two and a half hours. I'm saying like maybe the reason that they didn't explain anything was to like promote the mystery and not hold your hand.
00:57:08
Speaker
two and a half hours and you're like, you better be fucking explaining shit. Like, you know, be like, God, I don't know. I just really didn't like that movie. But yeah, that's that's I had no idea it was that long. That's fucking ridiculous. Yeah.
00:57:27
Speaker
like the heist aspect wasn't even that great either and like the zombie tiger was cool it did it did rip uh some dude up uh but yeah and there's like interesting concepts with like you know if the if the main zombie bites you then you kind of you know regain some of your intelligence but then if like um you know it kind of
00:57:52
Speaker
There's a hierarchy, like if that person bites something, then you're just kind of a regular zombie. But then there was also like these dried up like, you know, zombies that like, you know, because of the heat and they're like somebody was like, oh, wait till it rains. And you're like, oh, is it going to rain and these zombies are going to come back to life? No, we're just never going to talk about it again.
00:58:13
Speaker
And they went on for more than two and a half hours. Two and a half hours of like setting some things up, I guess for the prequel or the sequel or the comic book. I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore. It'd be cool if like you got bit and then like based upon you seeing what happened to other people, you got bit and you knew you had 24 to 36 hours to bite someone else.
00:58:39
Speaker
and you would stop becoming a zombie and they would then have to pass the party on to someone else or they themselves would have to become a zombie. Sort of like watching that film in the ring. Like it's something like that. You get bit and you know you have a little over a day to bite someone else. You just have to bite somebody. You just have to pull on zombies. You know what I mean? You just have to Luis Suarez it.
00:59:06
Speaker
It's just going to have a lot of biting. And then it's going to come all the way down to the end. Like you're going to have like huge portions of the population trying to bite other portions of the population. And they're going to be sane at the same time. You know what I mean? Because the biters know they have to bite. They still have a mind of their own. And the other part of the population, they know that if they get bit, they're going to have to bite someone else. So you're going to have fucking going. There's going to be people just biting people for just because they have a chance to bite somebody.
00:59:35
Speaker
Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Like, you don't really know just chaos, you know, you could call it Jaws, just like the shark movie. And just, you know what I mean? A totally different take. That's what they should have done. I'd watch a two and a half hour movie about that, about people going nuts and like frantically biting.
01:00:00
Speaker
Like some turning into zombies, some not. Dude, I would totally watch that. I'm gonna write that down. Now I would watch two and a half hours of that. Go write it then. Did you see anything else?
Review of 'Psycho Gorman'
01:00:14
Speaker
Yeah, I still saw that that new Nicolas Cage movie where he fights animatronics and a run down, a banding, you know, Chuck E. Cheese type of place. It's called Willie's Wonderland. Basically like
01:00:30
Speaker
Oh, it was you have to know what you're going in for. First of all, like you don't go in expecting, you know, anything like, you know, it's like he has no dialogue in this movie, by the way. The cage has no dialogue. No dialogue. He's in the entire movie. No dialogue. Was it like, like a non narrative type piece?
01:00:53
Speaker
That's a non-narrative type. No, it starts out with like him, he gets like, somebody like throws out a spike strip and flattens his tires. A tow truck guy picks it up and like, he doesn't have any cash. And like, so he's like, the guy's like, all right, if you work at this place overnight and you know, clean it up, cause I want to reopen it, I'll have your car fixed in the morning for you. And the cage is just staring them down the whole time? And he's just like,
01:01:25
Speaker
and he's like got cases of like this energy drink and uh that he that he takes like mad of it and puts it in the bag and takes it takes it in there with him and he puts them in like the fridge and then like he has like a timer set and like every time the timer goes off he stops whatever he's doing he goes and cracks one open drinks it and he starts playing this pinball game that that he's uh
01:01:48
Speaker
you know found in the back of the place and like hooked it up and cleaned it up and he plays that drink and then it beeps again and it kills the uh the energy drink throws away and goes back to cleaning and like all the while like the these other kids are trying to come in and like you know burn the place down because it's like the the creatures have been coming back and like killing people it's like a whole like cult thing where like these serial killers had like um
01:02:14
Speaker
taken like had kind of taken over this kid place and we're killing families and stuff like that. And they were, I did not, I did not know that I have no idea what the pot is. They were all like Nick Cage, not speaking. Yeah, they were all like, they all did like this death cult thing where they took their, they did a ritual and their, their souls took over the bodies of these animatronics that, that, you know, take place in
01:02:41
Speaker
this little Chuck E. Cheese type place. I don't know how else to describe it, but it's pretty much Chuck E. Cheese place. And so they come back and the townsfolk have been feeding them tourists to keep them from killing the people in the town.
01:02:58
Speaker
And like the kids of the town are trying to like destroy the place and they're like, wait, he's still in there. We got to go in and help him. And he's just nonchalantly like fucking cleaning. They're like, nah, you got to get out of here and we'll come alive and I'll just like kill it. And then just go back to cleaning. Was Nick cage deaf? Like, was he like, no, no, he just says not deaf, not mute. He just doesn't say.
01:03:20
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A thing the entire time and like he didn't really he wasn't really focusing on like all that crazy shit He was just trying to go like he wasn't surprised by it at all Yeah, like when they come back to life He just fucking you know handles it like he kills him and then like goes back in one point about his business at one point there's a like this the one of the girls is like about to be attacked by it and Like he's like ready to fucking take it out and his watch peeps and he just goes oh
01:03:50
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And hands, hands her the fucking the the stick that he had and then walks away and goes does his fucking ritual. That's a motherfucker. That's a motherfucker with a serious routine. Yeah. I mean, the most important thing for him is his routine. Yeah. Like Wolf Blitz are on election night. You know what I mean? He's all about like, no, that would be cool. I mean, I'm actually kind of like with Nick Cage never speaks again.
01:04:20
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It's like...
01:04:23
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They fucking go to let him out in the morning. They're like, oh, I guess we got to get this body out of here. And they're like, they're surprised to find the place completely fucking clean. And all the fucking creatures have been fucking dead. He just walks out, takes his car, and drives off. No explanation of his character, why he doesn't talk. I was fucking cracking up the whole fucking time. And I was watching a friend of mine, and she was like,
01:04:52
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This is terrible. I thought it was going to be something I was like, I told you what the plot was. I was like, it's, it's Nicholas Cage battling. It's five nights of Freddy's with Nicholas Cage and no dialogue. Like what were you expecting? Yeah. I mean, I'm actually very excited to watch this. I'm pumped. I'm kind of upset. I haven't seen it. Like this might be the Nick Cage. Maybe I've been waiting. It's on, uh, I believe it's on Hulu right now.
01:05:19
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So I'll check. Yeah. Yeah. And then my favorite one that I've watched is this movie. It's on Shutter or AMC Plus, if you have it. It's called Psycho Gorman.
01:05:30
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And it's an 80s throwback. It's like a sci-fi horror where these kids find a medallion in their backyard and it summons this demon. And they have control over it. And the little girl's like a real bitch. And she really bullies her older brother and stuff like that.
01:05:52
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And like she takes like she takes and it was like, oh, now you I control you. You have to do whatever I say. And like it starts bullying like this fucking like demon monster into like doing shit for with them. And like she takes them around town. And like it's so like it's such like it's so good, dude. Like you have like there's a lot of like a lot of good gore and stuff like that. And so if you like if you like 80s horror show their original.
01:06:20
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I think it was a show original. Okay. Or at least it's at least it's on shutter. I know that. But yeah, if you like the old school, it was like something you would find in a video store and you're like, how did I miss this? Like, you know, that's how it looks. So it doesn't look like something that just came out. You know, it looks like something that you just somehow missed, you know, that was in the video stores in the 80s or 90s and stuff like that.
01:06:45
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It's such a fun movie. It felt like that way about Mandy. Yeah, exactly. Like from the 1980s or even maybe like the late 70s. Late 70s, early 80s, yeah. Because the style was just very unique and ambitious and it was kind of like a throwback to things but also like sort of like a nuance.
01:07:08
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like take on things at the same time. So, I mean, it was, you know, it was pretty cool. So, I think I understand what you're, you know, saying when you say that. Mandy felt like Texas Chainsaw Massacre on LSD. Like, yes. Yes, sort of. Yeah. Yeah, like Texas Chainsaw Massacre LSD meets, like, Children of the Corn, maybe. Yeah, something like that. Like,
01:07:34
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Yeah, I'm not really sure how to describe or Psycho Gorman yet, but yeah, it was it's a horror comedy. I thought it was I thought it was a lot of fun. Well, you described the vibe of the movie really well. Like, you know, I mean, because I know exactly what you mean. Like when you like it looks like it was something like the production like seems to be set in like another time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like if you like if you like the VFW.
01:07:59
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Yeah, yeah, it's it's all again VFW. Yeah, I totally know. I mean, that looks like a movie from like the late 80s or maybe like very early 90s. Yeah. Like that might have missed. It's that type of aesthetic where it's like, yeah, something from the 80s, early 90s that like, oh, how did I miss this? And it's like it works so well. Like I was fucking cracking up multiple times.
01:08:22
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Yeah. When they were making all the all those like kind of like the whole like punk scene where, you know, I mean, yeah, like all that like kind of like chaos shit. You know, I mean, that would have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely kind of reminded me of like, you know, like Return of the Living Dead series and like like stuff like that. Like it was it's a lot of fun. I definitely recommend checking that out.
01:08:47
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Uh, but yeah, it gets, it gets fucking wild and like bizarre, but like, it's like so much fun to like, you're like, yes, like I've been missing this in my life. Like, where's this weird fucking eighties sci-fi horror fucking bit, you know what I mean? They, you know, they brought a lot of that back with VFW, you know what I mean? Like, so like, yeah, I mean, that's like really what I'm looking for right now. Yeah. I've been enjoying this, like a lot more of that.
01:09:15
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I've been, I've been enjoying almost like this renaissance of like throwbacks and they're not, they're not remakes of an old eighties or something. It's something new that feels like one of those movies. Yeah. Yeah. And I've been really enjoying that. I'll have to come up with like a, a, a, see if there's like more like that or if there's like a list I can, uh, we've maybe we can tell. Television wise, it started with me like what stranger things.
01:09:39
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Yeah, like the first like the first season, I was like, Oh, what a perfect fucking homage to the 1980s. And, you know, I feel like they might have like kind of kicked off like this wave of, you know,
01:09:54
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like throwbacks that so yeah, that's really cool. I'll have to check that one out as well. Yeah, that's definitely I mean, I think I would have rather see those two movies than the two that watch whether you know, yeah, yeah, that's that's the only I mean, yeah, Willie Willie's Wonderland was fun, but you know, it was it was dumb and you kind of knew what you were expecting. It's it's it's not great, but
01:10:17
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Like I wouldn't be like, yes, you need to go out and see it. You know what I mean? But like psycho Gorman, I'd be like, yes, go, go fucking watch that. Like, that, like, that's totally your fucking type of movie. Like, so yeah, that's pretty much all I've, uh, I mean, I, I don't know if I would count that, uh, Liam Neesing cold justice, cold pursuit movie as a, as horror. Well, we could talk about that some other time. Yeah. Um.
01:10:47
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I don't think I really saw anything else since then. No, I think we covered everything back in May when we did. Those were the only six I've seen so far.
01:11:02
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I've seen some other non-horror movies.
Upcoming Horror Films & UFOs in Media
01:11:08
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But oh, there's something that came out yesterday that looked really interesting. It's called Vicious Fun. And I think it's another throwback one from what I understand. And I believe it's about this horror writer or critique guy from the 80s who finds himself
01:11:29
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uh like a serial killer party and he's has to like kind of blend in i hear it's a real blast but like it just came out like thursday or friday or whatever and like i've heard i've heard about the book things pretend like he's also a serial killer so i've talked about like his technique and his trophy yeah yeah that's all i i gathered from it but i've heard that i've heard good things about that so far and uh werewolves within it was just like a who done it
01:11:58
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you know, but with werewolves. And that just came out today on the second. And that's basically it was based on a video game, too. And it's all it's on VOD right now. I think you get it for like six bucks or something like that. So I think I'm going to I'm definitely going to watch those, too. So I'll be able to report back at least on those. I know The Forever Purge just came out today as well. And the first part of the three part fear Street series on Netflix, because they're going to do one a week.
01:12:28
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uh um they're based on the rl stein books but they're more adult oriented the shows i mean and the trailers looked really good so i'll have to check that out as well so i got a couple things that are
01:12:41
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That came out like this week, and I mean at least four things that came out this week that'll definitely be interested in seeing I mean we should definitely talk about fear shrieks that's gonna have like a three parter the next next week's is going to be fear street 19th, this one's fear street 1994.
01:12:58
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Next week's is fear Street 1974 and then the on the 16th is fear Street 1666 and they're all supposed to like tie together and stuff like that. So I'll definitely definitely interested in that. So but yeah, that's all I got.
01:13:15
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That's all I got. You know what else just came out is a report to the United States Congress about UFOs, which is, you know, something we're going to have a whole other cast. We're going to be doing that and we're going to be talking about the way UFOs and the aliens have been portrayed in film, literature, and, you know, now in real life on in the media, and now
01:13:44
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in front of Congress. So that's going to be a really interesting cast, I think. We're going to have Matt on for that. So that'll be an interesting discussion. I'm still not going back to watch Fire in the Sky just for this discussion. Yeah, I can't either. I mean, I guess that's just a testament to how fucked up that maybe made me feel.
01:14:09
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it's scary to me to the point where i i can't handle it i mean that's it's good for this cast though it's it's true horror like you know if you can't go back and watch something because it fucked with you so much like that's definitely something that you know you gotta talk about yeah well i mean i don't know how much i can even describe of that movie like yeah so
01:14:33
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all what you're like, like, so it was like, you actually got abducted by aliens. Your brain was so traumatized that you tried like, just blocked it out. Memories like regress from what you had seen. Oh, wow. So you had like a genuine alien experience.
01:14:55
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Or just drank too much and done too many other drugs that I won't mention. Now that Travis Walton has been all over the place recently, he's got a new book coming out. He's been giving the interviews out. He was on Joe Rogan for three fucking hours. There's a lot of content to discuss, that's for sure. That's for another day though. But yeah, that's all I got.
01:15:23
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Thank you for tuning in. Yeah, thanks for joining us. Thanks for joining me. I'm glad everything worked out with your surgeries and shit, and we can continue doing this. Yeah, I'm also glad that, you know, I'm not dead. Yeah, that's it. But yeah, that's all we got. Follow us on the Facebook group. No, we haven't changed our name yet. I'm sure that's still downloaded down in the pipeline. Again, we'll start doing
01:15:50
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You know, YouTube videos and stuff like that. Yeah. We'll bring that up as you know, as it goes. Yeah. When it happens, you'll know. So yeah. All right. That's all we got. Yeah. Tune in next time. All right. All right. Peace. Fire days.