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What Hooks You?
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Do you like green venomous snakes like Matt?
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Appreciating Green Venom Snakes
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I like green venom snakes.
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They are cool.
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Green snakes. Green snakes.
Experiences with Sprintfield Encounters
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So I was at the Sprintfields about an hour ago and this crisscrossing motherfucker I'm running down the field, the length of the field that a typical person would exercise on.
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And he's doing some crisscross walk thing back and forth the field. So every time I execute a sprint, I've got to navigate this motherfucker. I've brought this up before. I think what person does that? I'm always primed and ready to like, see what other people are doing and,
00:01:16
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You know, just be a good human being and work around them in the most logical way. I don't know, i'm wired for that, but some people just have no sense. So if I saw a guy sprinting, for example, there's a whole huge field on the other side that he could just do his little walk routine back and forth, or he could just adjust.
00:01:34
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and go up, down. How old are we talking about? It's like one those crazy old retired guys? No, maybe late 50s. But as sure he's got his shirt off, and he's just got his hands over his head. i mean, may what I don't understand is like what the...
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The logic is. Was he doing like that karaoke thing we used to, was it like he's well just walking on the back real quickness or he's just walking? Just walking. Just walking zigzag. And so I'm trying to like give him the benefit of the doubt in my head. But then I get to the point where I'm just like, fuck this dude. What what are you doing, bro?
Gym Etiquette and Considerations
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Dude, how awesome would have been just a Ray Lewis's ass. Just run right through him. Unreal. it would have been great. I mean, that but's it's just constant contention. So it's like, and the timing was really bad because like I do a sprint, I usually do a sprint and I walk back and it's like I had to, I felt like I had to like pause or avoid this dude 20 times. But stupid things like that really bother me. That happens to me all the time. and When I do sprints, especially i like I'll do sprints my daughter at this the health club we go to and there's always these decos walking around like holding each other's arms and
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always just like, why are you so close? Like, are you fucking blind? You know, it's like, what are you, what are you doing? It's really annoying, especially if you're like slightly out of shape, it's even worse. ah But dude, that's almost dangerous.
00:02:51
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If you're, if you're running sprints and then, and then you kind of like got to cut a little bit because, because this jackass, Yeah, I can see him from a mile away. i mean this is a huge field, but yeah, it's just sort of annoying that like there's so much more contention that I have to like navigate. Like, oh, if I start right now, I'm going to get real close to him.
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Yeah. And then, oh, on my walk back, it looks like he and I are going to meet at the 50-yard line. I'm like, what? I'll just wait here. It's just, i had to do that like six, seven times, but such is life, man. Yeah.
00:03:23
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Happy that you're getting out doing sprints on a Monday. Yeah. Dude, I don't know. There's something about when working out that, like, people, whatever they're doing just becomes more annoying, like, for some reason. Well, you want that workout done, right? You know, I mean, I would have no compassion for Iranians under fire while I'm sprint working, like I'm doing sprint work.
00:03:44
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Yeah. Yeah. You're like, what you fucking doing? Yeah, but as people get older, the weirdness of working out, what they think is, ah like, It'll be like, I'm not going to do. It's like you they'll do anything to mask actual
Humorous Workout Observations
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working out.
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I don't know how if I'm explaining correctly, but it'll be like, I'm going to walk and do arm raises. and stuff or some shit where you're like, as you get older, you're just inventing the weirdest shit. you know Dude, I'll see people.
00:04:09
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Yeah, they'll put their hands over their head and then they'll twist twist their body like this over and over again. i guess working their labs and just like, hey, hey, do something.
00:04:21
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Dude, they have the the every um a lot of parks in Costa Rica. I think this was ah what we call a chorizo. I think it was just like some guy got a contract. but they put I think they have in the U.S. those weird like calisthenic machines. They're not machines, but like they're in the park. oh yeah. they'll be like, one them be like, you roll your hands like this.
00:04:38
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Yeah, yeah. but And they're they're like, you're like, what is what is the point of that? They put them everywhere here, probably like some Costa Rica wellness campaign or something. And you just i tell I was telling Luca yesterday, that should be, he was asking me what, like he was telling me about the World Cup animals and shit that every country has and what their like logo is.
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And I'm like, for Costa Rica, it should be an old person
Adapting Workouts with Age
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doing one of those stupid machines like that that accomplishes nothing, but they feel like they they did something. It's like, why do they do that? I don't know. i but Maybe they do a little something, but it's like this.
00:05:10
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Yeah, I've not seen that, but I know. And actually, so my wife and I used to do this workout and it was pretty good workout, but they had all the calisthenic type. pull up bars and dip bars and and they had exercises written out at a couple different parks and we'd go around and jog in between them. That's pretty good workout.
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It's pretty good. Yeah, it's kind of like that, but some of them are silly. Like you stand on you just like go back and forth. That's pretty funny. I don't know. It's just like I'm active. You know, like there's there's like a trend of like workout tremor. It's like, well, just doing anything is better and doing nothing. So people are like, oh, really? said to get outside. It is good, but it just makes me laugh.
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Anyways, yeah, older. i I might. I wonder if I'll get. I am doing like I will say i adjusted down to just like a dumbbell squats. I like hold a 50, 60 pound weight like this instead of doing like actual heavy squats. yeah I feel like I made an old person move right there. Yeah.
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Yeah, I was at ah at the bar Saturday talking to a guy. He's pretty fit. And he's like, he's all about kettlebells too. And the nice thing about kettlebells, not super heavy. So you can do all those old guy workouts.
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Yeah, no no reason to ah you know try try to pursue 300 pounds on your back anymore. I feel like I get a deeper squat, but I'm not putting that much weight on. Like for some reason when I hold the like this, it aligns my body better.
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Yeah. This is some meathead shit right here. but Well, you want to do high reps anyway at this point, I think. Like what do you consider high reps? 15 and above. no The whole time I'm doing squats, I'm just talking myself how much I hate it.
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Yeah, it hurts. The bar, i like I started to like the bar, but the dumbbell, I don't know something about it because that because you can do such a deep-ass squat. so annoying. The bar is good, i think, if you are willing to warm up a ton.
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That's the thing as you get to our age. If you're willing to warm up a ton, you can do sprints, you can do heavier squats, heavier bench. But if you're not, I've always been an impatient, like, workout
Parental Influence on Sports Engagement
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person.
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So I just got to be careful what I choose. i never warm up at all. I'll ride the i'll ride the exercise bike for, like, 10 minutes. That's about it that's That's actually perfect. Yeah. I don't do a lot of stretching. Now that we're climbing a lot, my son and I, are like the guy who runs the gym is like up his ass about stretching and shit. He won't let it he won't let him climb until he's like stretched for 10 minutes.
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That's great. My son's like, come on, dude. Anyways. But that's what I'm into right now. Oh, yeah? little climbing? yeah Yeah. What do you...
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You're going to have, you have do you plan on going to, you think you'll go now you have no, I guess you got, you're going to be like interested in college basketball and your son's college basketball, but it's not like a hop, skip and a jump to get there. Once he goes to school, you think you'll be as in the like youth sports and youth basketball.
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Like next year, are you going to go back to the old high school and watch, watch the team and hang out with parents? Yeah. I define youth sort of cutting off at eighth grade, but ah pop I'll go see some high school for sure. I love high school basketball.
00:08:21
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Yeah, and definitely in the playoffs. But I'll go see my son's school, like ah in the rivalry game. I love it. I think for the money for the money, there's nothing better.
00:08:33
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I enjoy going to the games, but ah I mean, for me, my kids are young. they're They're like rotating through things they like and shit, and then that's what gets me into stuff. Like even to the level of like I could not give a fuck about the NBA playoffs right now just because no one close to me is really playing hoops. I'm not talking about it with my son. them I mean, I'm interested. Like what happened with the Knicks is pretty amazing, by the way.
00:08:56
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Yeah. ah the the What I'm getting at, Lance, is what what gets us into stuff? What gets you into stuff? and it's Especially as we get older. like everything Everything I get into usually is because my kids are into it.
00:09:12
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And then once that's gone... what Like you don't you don't follow the NBA anymore, right? How you do? Well, I do. I check it here and there, but not not as much as I had in the previous years. So yeah, it's a good point. yeah The kids are great for helping you explore different ah different hobbies and different things to do. Yeah, I don't know. i'm This is what I'm struggling with. i did it I love coaching and I loved coaching independent of my kid and enjoyed it more when I wasn't coaching him specifically because it didn't trigger me god to be a dickhead.
00:09:45
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Yeah, but what will will I go back to it? Like I'm really questioning if I'll go back to coaching youth. It's just, so I yeah do, yeah, I think your kids really, with that's because you don't have choice.
00:10:00
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So when you don't have a choice, you usually show up and you kind of figure it out. When you do have a choice, it'll be interesting to see what i where I go Yeah, it's kind of fun, too. I just think of all the all the cycles I've been through with my kids.
00:10:14
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Some of them I got into into, like, when they were really young doing, like, Taekwondo. I wasn't like, I'm doing fucking Taekwondo. That's why I drew the line. But I got into surfing kind of with them, but I always wanted to do that anyways. I knew that. My son, let's see, skateboarding.
00:10:29
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I didn't necessarily get into skateboarding when they were into it, but I got into surf skating, which is pretty fun, but that was because of them. And then they got out of that. So was like, let's see, skateboarding.
00:10:40
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Never really got into soccer. Basketball, like definitely was more into basketball when my son was into basketball. My daughter has just started taking ten tennis lessons. I'm guessing I'll probably end up playing some tennis with her.
00:10:52
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Because of that, something that I just would not do. um So I don't know. But even like, every even like i don't know, culture, music, ah although I can't really listen to most of the music coming out these days, like even that, you're influenced by your kids. It's like, what gets you in the shit? So think it's important as you get older, like what what engages you?
00:11:14
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Well, let's let's conclude that... by virtue of being a good parent, you're going to like participate in your kids activities. I think if you're a good dad, you try to play with them, and you try to do stuff with them. So we can put that one to bed.
00:11:26
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At what level is it is it is a good topic, too. But, you know, do I need to fucking go rock climbing because my son likes it? I think if you want to spend time with them, probably, yes, I would just conclude that that is.
00:11:39
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a way that good parents get involved in things that they didn't expect. But the bigger question, at least for me, is like, what else is driving my interests? And that's something to ponder.
00:11:51
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I'm not sure. i think my worries are a big thing. So I've been getting into sort of books about bubbles, like and investing and economic bubbles, because I'm sitting here going,
00:12:09
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what if my wife retires and all of our stocks crash 50%? That's so that like you're just driven towards that kind of thing. And which I find to be sad and pathetic. And I wanna like literally head but a mirror and have some of the glass shards like stay in my forehead. Cause I'm so mad at myself, but so worries or are one for me. i don't know if that that's for you.
00:12:34
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ah Worries maybe might i would say yes worries drive my life but not necessarily like what I'm into at the moment. Worries don't drive me to want to go surf or to like want to work and out or anything. What about health? yeah so that That worry of health and longevity or or just like falling off the the horse so to speak and then and then it being impossible to get back on it drives me.
00:13:02
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what do you What do you mean? The horse? Well, I feel like if i stop, like if I just say, you know what, fuck it, I don't need to do anything. Like for a few months, it's going to be really hard to to pick anything back up again, to get healthy again. So I try to like stay on. I mean, I did i do slip now with this trip to St. Louis and being busy and all that crap. and And it is hard to like lose some weight or whatever.
00:13:25
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and I can tell just like five, an extra five or 10 pounds affects everything I do now. It's harder to surf, it's harder to fucking climb, harder to work out. like It's harder to bang. No, like it it definitely banged better. That extra 10 pounds, it's more force, more thrust.
00:13:43
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When we started this, you were heavy into pickup basketball. It doesn't seem like you've played any of it. Yeah, i have no desire to play basketball, like at all. Because of the the fast food from St. Louis or what?
00:13:55
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No, I think that might be part of it is like I'm not really – like my son and I aren't playing. Uh-huh, yeah. I don't know. Several times my life I've been so into playing pickup hoops. It's so fun, and then I just like, I don't feel like doing this.
00:14:09
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I don't know why. I hate to tell you, you ain't going to be going back if you wait too long. I don't really care, honestly. Oh, mister, I don't care. All right, bro. Fuck.
00:14:21
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No, i'm just saying I have other shit I'm doing. It would suck if that was eat my only, if ah if that was like my sole source of health or exercise. And I'm like, well, now you don't do shit, but I'm still doing a lot of other stuff, you know?
00:14:34
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Right. But I don't know what it is I mean, if I went and played, probably I'd probably be like, oh yeah, this is fun and I want to play. But Maybe it's just because I'm not very good. and But that doesn't stop me with anything else.
00:14:48
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oh Well, you're not playing hoops, right? you ever going to play hoops again? Well, I had retire just because that right knee is. But you wasn't playing like an older older man's league and then you can take it easy on your knee, like a 50 and above league? or No, it's it's really a the way the injuries, the multiple injuries, the cut it's the cutting. Like I can straight on sprint. I can do anything straight on. I could do a little bit of cutting and like lateral movement and karaoke, but extended, even pickleball, I just had to cut it out.
00:15:17
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Pickleball doesn't seem like a hard sport, but like if you're if you're an athlete and you want to run a little bit, it's that stop-start lateral. ah So part of what we're into now is being dictated what our bodies can handle.
00:15:30
Speaker
Why, yes, Matt. That is correct. That's fucking sad, huh? Super sad. I love basketball. I could have played pickup forever. I mean, I loved it, and I love that challenge, but it's just that I would know – that either I'm gonna go get another surgery or my knee is gonna be swollen all week prevent me from doing everything else.
00:15:51
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and Why don't you choose, that why why not choose option A there? Where my shit's swollen? No, why not get another surgery? Oh, because it's arthritic at this point, but also like it just, it's not even that. I think you you would stress it over again.
00:16:10
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Like I could get the meniscus cleaned out, but it's still a risky knee because it doesn't have, you know, the bulk of the ligaments are not, or the cartilage and everything is not intact. So it's like not fixable 100%? I mean, not at this age, like youre not 100%, no. I mean, you can make it better. I just wouldn't do that. I mean, I'm i'm more of a person that would accept the age that I'm at. And i it's not like I didn't have a lot of fun, dude. I mean, shit, I went nuts for most of my life.
00:16:40
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yeah i don't know i don't know i have like if i i notice now if i do like some bouldering my son and then go surf my shoulder my right shoulder is a fucking mess just like too much of this movement but i just keep going and don't really care it's weird that it's your right enough from pitching yeah it's it's it's the off one i don't know what i don't know what it is but uh It's like if I if it's a combination, like if I'm doing if I'm lifting weights and surfing, which, you know, is a lot of this motion paddling.
00:17:12
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If I'm doing a lot of different things, it's it'll happen. But if I'm just like like I served three or four days in a row last weekend and it's fine because I wasn't doing anything else. i didn't feel it. Then if I like climb, it's i don't know what it is, but.
00:17:27
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No, you're old, bro, partly. i Like my ankle has been torn, or like rolled so many times, my right one, that if I'm out in the ocean like that, this the the swimming motion with your foot, what do you call that, kicking? i'm Like, ah that like wears it down and then it feels like it's almost dead.
00:17:46
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It's like a floppy dead piece of piece of meat on my body. Yuck. Wow. Well, not that bad, but it just feels dull. it's like it's like ah It's like something's operating on one ligament or one whatever, and it's completely toast.
00:18:02
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Fatigued. You need some, what's that the shot? the Cortisone? No. Oh, shit. I forget. Why are they like injecting youthful cells into people?
00:18:15
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Oh, yeah. don't know.
00:18:18
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Nah, I'm pretty happy with what my body can do still. So it's fine. I'm good. So are you susceptible to and like you anything else you're going to get in? Like could be music, entertainment? Are you like, what? what Like, are you going to like, yeah, I could get into that. Are you pretty much set in your way? I think I'm music. I'm kind of done.
00:18:35
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don't see myself finding too much new music that I like. But I've given up on like the entertainment industry and the whole. i don't see myself getting into anything ever.
00:18:45
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Again, like what what what would trigger you to be like, oh, I'm gonna i'm gonna get down with that. I'm more just exploratory in that sense. So, I mean, whatever, checking some things out. Like I'll go to, so if you want, NPR has the Tiny Desk series, which I think just like it's it's weird bands for the most part.
00:19:05
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I do like Tiny Desk, but I'm looking for people i already know though. Yeah, but some of the new ones, like, I've i've just come across. I haven't done much with it, but other than just appreciate. But, yeah, stuff like just exploring and, but really get into something, huh?
00:19:21
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Is that ever going to happen again in our lives? I guess the podcasting thing is something I kind of really got into in terms of the editing process, but but that was just. It's the last one, dude. Yeah. I don't know where the new learning comes from.
00:19:34
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That's the issue. i actually worry about that because that is a sign that you're going to get dementia if you don't fucking keep growing. I think that's what the base of this episode is. like is ah It's like, are we done getting into shit? there's no There's no more like a youthful, oh, wow, I just discovered that. I mean, maybe I could get into like cooking or...
00:19:54
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It all seems like, even to say this is cliche, but it seems kind of like cliche. I'm going to be like an older man. I'm going to take guitar lessons or some shit. It's like, come on, dude. need to go to the fucking community center.
00:20:06
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You almost just got to do that shit. I know. It feels pussy. What am I going to really get into? like ah and the yeah the the kid is The kids are an excuse. like My son, and I'm not going to get into it but he's like drumming as well. like Maybe I'll... so We watch a lot of drumming videos and he's telling me about great drummers and we're we're doing that together. Like i said, I'll probably get into, I'm going to go watch my daughter play tennis today. She's going to be like, why don't we go hit the ball around? probably be like, all right let's do it.
00:20:33
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Yeah, I don't know like what ah what I'm really going to get, if I'm open to get into anything. The rest of my life, just like, I don't know. Especially once they're gone. But maybe I don't really care. You will. I mean, you will. i guess the the big risk is if you're not partnered and you're just sitting there alone going through a routine.
00:20:50
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got a friend who lost his job. He just said he was just watching too much TV. And so his response to like having all that time was just sitting in front of the tube. I don't have that risk, but that's not good for you, obviously. um Yeah, I do just get worried about, I like make up things for deep analytical thinking. And I think with the investment thing, I just went through like a whole three day trying to learn this new technique. And it it really makes no sense for anything that I need to do, but I just needed deep analytical thinking. So I don't know where I get that.
00:21:24
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Sounds like you' having fun with it in a way, or at least it's engaging you like at a pretty high level. It is, but it's only for three days. I'd like to have some of that every week. I just don't know what to do it in. I need to, I'm getting into climate, but I don't like, the the challenge when you get to this age, like we were looking at some volunteer opportunities, Sarah and I, and we're considered like mature volunteers, like, you know, ones that can't really do anything heavy physical or or be up on our feet all day. It's it's so you start to embody that, like, ooh, that would be too hard. Or ah so i'm I'm a little worried about that shit.
00:21:59
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That reminds me of, ah remember my college friend Brian, who I think has lost his way a little bit. but Oh, yeah. When he was sober and, like, he was, when we were coming out of Colorado, he was he was thinking about joining Greenpeace.
00:22:14
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And they used to, I don't do that. They probably came up there, i I'm guessing, but, like, they'd come around colleges and be like, you can, you go to Greenpeace and then you you come, or was it Greenpeace? Yeah, think Greenpeace. come out with 10 grand or something. some shit and I just remember his roommate another friend of ours was like you fucking idiot you're gonna be in zimbbo Zimbabwe digging ditches or some shit you're not gonna be doing anything great and he was like whatever dude it just made me laugh it's a funny line but you and your wife are not candidates to be digging ditches in Zimbabwe for poor people you're saying?
00:22:42
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No, I think for me would be more of like physical education for really poor communities. So it'd be like showing up with a box of soccer balls and getting some kids moving or teaching them basketball. or That's what I could do. but Dude, so I papered my my nonprofit.
00:23:00
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I papered that. And so now I got to move forward that I could see you and your wife helping me with some fundraising projects. Fundraising is for f***, bro. you could Yeah, but a can you can do whatever you want.
00:23:12
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You could, you it doesn't even have, you're like, you don't even have to give a shit about what you're raising money for. And also somebody else, a friend of mine, she's like, why doesn't, what is it? Why doesn't Lance sing? Why doesn't he have a band? Why doesn't he sing? I would love to go watch him sing.
00:23:26
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Well, I got some guys that i jam with here and there, but yeah, you're That's, I keep going back to that. Like she's like, I said, well, he just thinks that no one wants to watch a 50 year old. And he's like, what are you talking about? I would be there in a second.
00:23:38
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Yeah, I know. I got it. You don't talk about other men that way. I said, yeah, dude, slap her. No, I know. I, I, the same way with comedy. I like you got out there. I gotta, I gotta to figure it out. I just, I'm not sure what the slippery slope. Cause you'll obsess about it, but like, no, but I'm like, yeah, fucking go do a show. Invite 40 year fucking friends. You and your wife make 300 bucks.
00:24:02
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Venmo it to me and we'll save three square meters of jungle. That's it. Okay. Done. And then you're like, you've got it all. You got you get to play music, you got purpose. You don't have to be like, I'm fucking trying to trying to become American Idol. All I'm trying to do is save a couple acres of rainforest.
00:24:20
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It's a good good idea. I need a proper motivation because many people are like, dude, why aren't you playing out? My wife is always like, you what why aren't you playing out? And I'm like, I don't have the songs. I need to rewrite. then of course I need to have 20 songs because I refuse to play covers.
00:24:36
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Dude, I think and there's something about, I think it might, it's like a mentality out, maybe it's outside of the U.S. But because I remember this with some Chilean people that we were friends with in Denver. They used to just go play. They were great. They were like great musicians. But I think they were like studying at the School of Mines.
00:24:52
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We met some girl at a bar close to our house who was like Chilean, spoke Spanish. And my wife started talking to her and we became friends. Dude, i don't know. You probably don't remember these people, but I think the guy, like her boyfriend at the time, I think you played Little League football with.
00:25:06
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And this the guy ended up dying. This girl, like, this is a fucking weird story. I played Little League with? him Yeah. You guys, we hung out. I mean, this is probably 2002. And we all hung out and you guys like were like, oh, yeah, we both played.
00:25:22
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middle school football together something. what's his name? I don't remember. Like, dude, this guy died, like rotted to death in the hospital. Like had a can, like skin cancer or something.
00:25:33
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White guy? Yeah. This, I don't know, this is a waste of podcasting time, but like this girl was Chilean and was like, I'm not saying she was a witch, but all this crazy shit would happen around her.
00:25:43
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Like people dying all the time. Anyways, but, but she had this other, all these other Chileans that she hung out with, they would just like go play music places and like book shows, but it was never like, this is what we do. They were like, they were at the school of mines, like learning how to mine. Cause it was like, you know, mining in South America and stuff. They were engineers. Um, But I think there's a mentality in the U.S. like or maybe it's just us. You can't really do it unless you're trying to do it for like commercial success. And I see like with Costa Ricans, whether it's sport, like climbing or anything where they're just like, oh, no, we're going to have a show. The point is like we're just going to put on a show for our friends or do an event. And there's no other motive.
00:26:18
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And people are just doing stuff to like enjoy it. And they might be really good at it, but they're like, no, I'm a lawyer during the day or whatever. They're not like, I'm trying to do this full time. mean, there are people that are trying to do shit, but yeah there's that mentality of like.
00:26:30
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Celebrate, do stuff. Yeah. We were like, well, you you just like to sing. You go to that. People like you. There's nothing else to it because you could just do it. they're the Like you don't have to.
00:26:40
Speaker
It doesn't matter if you're 50 or you're trying to make it commercially. We don't really have that. We're like taught to like you got to go all in and be successful. And it's like you don't really have to do that.
00:26:51
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It's like a mentality, you know? I know you're right. It's true. Added all that out. That was a waste of time, but you get my point, right? No, it's true. Yeah, it is ah It's a, it's it's trying to shut that off.
00:27:03
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And even like, you know, not everything has to be that good either. You can be even de decent and share it with people. It's just, if you've set a standard for it, it's it's ah harder to kind of break that.
00:27:15
Speaker
I'm having a hard time with it too. Like when I go up there, I do nothing with stand-up when I'm down here. like But when I go up there and I'm like, I got to do another show. you've've You've heard me. got it And then I'm like, it's almost like for you and me, i'm like i'm just pretty I'm good at it because I did it for a while and now I can just like go enjoy it for fun.
00:27:33
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So it's like, I should just be like, well, that's all I really need out of it. You know, it's just like, yeah, I can, when I'm up there, something to do and I'm good at it. So it's fun. And and like, and that's it. But it it feels, it just does not feel right to just do it for the sake of doing it.
00:27:49
Speaker
I'm like, I got to talk to this guy, books his club. And I'm like, what am I doing? Like, there's no relevance to it. I'm just like, I got to, I'm like up there trying to hustle bookings and make connections and all this crap. And it's, it's kind of ridiculous, but it's, I don't know, it is what it is. I mean, I just know how, how to do it and how you get gigs. And that's like part of the game. at the same time, it's like, I could just go up there and hit a few open mics, crush.
00:28:11
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And then that's it. It's like, great. You know, which is what you could do too. Right. Right. Yeah. It's just effort. Actually, I think what it needs to happen, but what we did when we were in that, it's consistent effort. No, I mean, it's like a schedule.
00:28:30
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Like you got it. Like the obsession drove the schedule back in the day. Yeah. Now there are other things in the way of that. And so now it's sort of being businesslike with it and saying, yep, I'm going to songwrite.
00:28:41
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twice a day for an hour and I'm gonna by this time I'm gonna weed down my songs to this and I'll have 10 ready to go by July 1st and then i'm I'm on the circuit.
00:28:54
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Yeah, which you don't need to do. But you know that you know that you're like, the only way you know how to do it or the way I know how to do it is like to be obsessed. am I know. Right. That's the scary part, I guess. But, but ah you, I mean, you could just go fucking sing covers and have fun.
00:29:11
Speaker
No, but that's the thing I couldn't. And I couldn't just go hack. Just funny. You're like, no. i couldn i'm say songs I couldn't do hacky songs either. I'd have to really like them. and enjoy playing them and that's so that but but there is a pathway to to that that's not that complicated it's a set schedule with some set goals and maybe i should give up all these other dumb ideas and just spend about two years doing that and see where it goes yeah but you're like you're already like making it more challenging than it needs to be yeah no no just a schedule because the routine is what
00:29:46
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builds the skill and confidence and and like and and I think fuels the motivation further. Well, I think you're probably like me where you got you're talented enough.
00:29:56
Speaker
You could go out and wing it and have fun and sing some fun. You saying you sang Oye Como Va at my wedding. I don't think you put too much time into grabbing that. No, I didn't. yeah um But no, we could do that. That's the thing. But i don't that's not sustaining for me.
00:30:11
Speaker
So yeah, I could go, like you can walk up on stage and and you know have a few bits, but there's a difference between if you had a 30 minute routine that was banging, that's a whole and nother level that would be fun, exciting and worth shooting for.
00:30:27
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ah And that's what I'm shooting for, but I'm also like, why? Like i have I'm put together 10 minutes and and be the best, like, i'm ba i'm I'm going, now, and last time was, I'm going to shows and people are like, hey, can you, can we put you in this spot so you can pump the crowd up and can you do a little longer and shit?
00:30:45
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And I'm like, okay. But I'm just like, oh yeah, this is like something pretty good at. But it's also like, I don't, so then I'm like, all right, I gotta get 30 minutes to go, then I can really, it's like, why?
00:30:55
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mean, you're right, it's just like, well, it'd be fun and I can book more shit and stuff. No, I think, because the challenge is what's fun. the Knowing you're good at it can go up there and wing it. is not That's not the fun part.
00:31:06
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Yeah, it's kind of like, oh yeah, a reminder of look at me, i'm I'm good at something naturally or whatever, but or I have a past experience with this. No, it's the challenge of having, that's that's what appeals to me by just setting the schedule and saying, you're after 10 songs.
00:31:22
Speaker
10 that you can stomach playing live in front of any, everybody, anyone. Not just your family. Do you have band? Do you have a drummer that you could could go and see? mean, not really. i have some guys who just want to jam, but they want to play.
00:31:34
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But, I mean, there's enough instruments in the jam group? No, I don't. One guy doesn't ever want to play out, which I don't know. We could probably twist his arm. but But I'm saying, and you have a guitarist? Are you you're gonna you got you going three-piece band? Do you have a bass, a guitar, and a drummer?
00:31:49
Speaker
Well, this these people are a bass and a guitar, are bass and drums. Drums. And what do you do? Just fucking scream? Well, I'm an acoustic guitar and sing.
00:32:01
Speaker
What do you sing? What do I sing? I haven't played with the bass player, but I just played a lot of my songs with the drummer. Yeah, but you could go, i mean, it's in one regard, stand-ups, I could go do an open mic like every night of the week, but is that possible, of music?
00:32:19
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like But you got to haul all these people around. Oh, yeah, I would never do open mic with a band. What do people do for that? Is there like a sit in band where you go, hey, play, give me two for time.
00:32:31
Speaker
Watch me for the changes. It's like back to the future. Yeah. Try to keep up. I don't really know what people, well, if you're doing an open mic, you're just doing a solo act typically, or sometimes two people will come together.
00:32:43
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But I don't know what like a three piece or an actual band would do ah these days. Back in my day, you would there were certain clubs that would give you like 20, 30 minutes. They'd want to listen to your shit before they booked you.
00:32:56
Speaker
But you'd just be a part of a maybe a six band night. Right, like a showcase night something like that. Yeah, showcase, there you go yeah. How do you know how are you making the music for our show?
00:33:08
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Just like... fun Oh, I get the... No, I just get the free free sound. I get certain music clips, and then I just sing over it. You can do that. You just have a computer, a laptop on stage plugged in the sound system, and you singing.
00:33:22
Speaker
People are doing that. I know they're doing that, but that'd be so lame. I got a guitar, and i actually can play it pretty decently, so... I would love it if you just did all the song parodies you're putting. I think a lot of people would, at least the people that listen to our show, which would be hard to get them all in one room.
00:33:39
Speaker
But not because there's so many, but because they're spread out. ah if you were If you were just doing songs like you do for our show, I think that would be awesome. Yeah, it'd be fun. I just like it. I don't know my personality could carry that being the goofball. Cause like, I don know i have two distinct sides.
00:33:56
Speaker
Like you're a dipshit pretty much exclusively. And I like have two really hardcore sides. One's very serious and thoughtful. and And the other is a total fucking. That's the beauty. If you, do if that guy is saying the serious guy is singing those songs, yeah which is what it sounds like before, like at the beginning of our show and after a show, that would be great.
00:34:17
Speaker
Well, I could work both sides. You gotta want it, dude. I got like an hour every day of serious songwriting and then the afternoon, an hour of dipshit songwriting. Dude, we we just decided we're not getting into anything else in our lives.
00:34:32
Speaker
So this is all you have. Well, it would be nice to get into it and actually do something with it instead of just have my guitar sit right next to me within arm's reach and just play it for myself, basically.
00:34:47
Speaker
how long how long would it take How long would it take from like now to where you're at now to book a show? What would have to happen? Well, I could just throw a house concert and invite a bunch of people. In fact, I could set up my whole living room to be nothing but like a a concert venue, a home a home concert venue, and just invite musicians I like and have people over.
00:35:07
Speaker
Where would you go in that corner? Like up in the front or back in the little layer? No, right in front of the fireplace. Because then people can stand stand in the kitchen and... Fucking do smoke pot. and Yeah, I did it before.
00:35:21
Speaker
It was great. I see the wheels turning. ah you like to cook no i ate it i'm the worst could you see yourself getting into cooking as you get older no no my wife wishes no that's another thing my son is like all in on cooking and he made like this amazing prime rib roast for us last night are you kidding yeah like he was stringing it up so like yeah made the chimichurri yeah he's making ah yeah he's really good but now i'm like i I love it because I'm just like, you guys go for it.
00:35:53
Speaker
It gets a little competitive. They both want to cook. But, ah yeah, I mean, that that's another thing. Like, um I can cook pretty pretty good, but I just make the basic shit. That can be something I can see myself getting into. yeah People that get way into cooking, kind of annoying. Like, most of the things that i'm like, i don't want to get nuts because people that are way into shit are kind of annoying.
00:36:13
Speaker
Well, yeah. I look at that thing. i my I robbed my kids of a lot of joy and because I was such a anal retentive, keep everything clean person. You seem like you can tolerate a shit show of a mess everywhere.
00:36:27
Speaker
And cooking really- ah He's the messiest, dude. The messiest. cooking really you know is so messy like I couldn't stand my kids doing and they've got the French influence so there's a lot of butter my you know just grass I've had everywhere but yeah I need to figure i I think I'm fine though as far as what I'm gonna get into I got a couple sports I like like to work out my kids are still young I got this fucking stupid business and then I always got pizza always got I can always do that you can always switch to men too bro switch
00:37:02
Speaker
Oh, did I say that out loud? I could get into what I, wait yesterday we took, i was sending you pictures. By the way, did you see that snake? and Yeah, of course, I think according to my son, he was like, that's, he said that they were on like a ah trip somewhere and that green snake is some sort of viper. It's one of the deadliest snakes in the world or something like that. but Are you kidding? had way to confirm it, yeah.
00:37:23
Speaker
But ah i I could get into shit like that.
00:37:29
Speaker
I like green venom snakes. They are cool. They are cool.
00:37:42
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Venom snakes.