Setting the Tone with Humor
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I'm piece of shit.
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Ooh, I'm piece of shit.
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Fucking wish you were at the comedy club with me this weekend. We would have been dying together. It's fucking every stereotypical thing that we ever, ever jived about happens for real in the black community.
Cultural Observations and Personal Milestones
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it's It's just so fucking funny, dude. That's on air. Everything that you used to mock the black culture about. That's what I mean. Well, I'm glad you're experiencing the world, man. I'm glad you're seeing some new things, man.
00:00:41
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Well, old things, but yeah will that was I talked to you over the weekend. That was the first time I made money doing stand-up in 11 years, I believe. 2015, I believe, was the last time I got paid to do stand-up. So I got booked. I landed in St. Louis last Thursday night, got a call from the booker at the Helium Comedy Club. you want to work this weekend?
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I worked in front of this guy named DK Kirkland that has like a couple shows on BET and a radio show. So I did a nice weekend in front of predominantly black audience, like 99% black because that's his his draw. And it was it was awesome.
Financial Realities of Comedy Gigs
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I was so fucking nervous, not because of the black people, but because I hadn't been on like paid to do stand up in a while. i was i was I had all the emotions. Damn. That's a rat, boy. What kind of cash, bro? 80?
00:01:32
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For the whole weekend? Not much. I was the host, so no, but it's ah honestly, i did five shows and it was $250 plus free everything. $250? Plus free meals and free drink. That's better than I thought, dude. You can make a living that way.
00:01:49
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No, you can't. Maybe four shows a week, thousand bucks. I guess if you if you book, I mean, no one's probably making a money money being a host ah at a comedy club, but you yeah let's just say you're you're between 200 and 300 a week is probably your max as a host because some some clubs might do less money per show, but they have more shows or whatever. So let's just say two yeah you can make a call at a thousand bucks a month.
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And maybe you can supplement a couple other shows here or there. But if you're the host, you're probably not ready to do a whole lot more than that. Yeah. You could do some shit on the side. It was fun though. And this guy DK is pretty funny, but it was just, uh, don't know I had, I have a
Returning to Music and Creative Ambitions
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great time. but I think you would love it. Cause it, it's, uh, it just reminds me of stuff we used to talk about coming to life. Okay.
00:02:40
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Dude. So we should mention you're on the phone making this podcast a continued piece of shit. Yeah. So I'm on the phone. well I'm driving, I think is what really pisses you off, right?
00:02:52
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That's what I meant to say. Yeah, dude. Yeah, on the I've done it on the phone before and we found that the sound quality is top notch. So this will be a another great conversation for me.
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a I did my part. I know that I know that you have not accepted nor acknowledge any sort of challenge about us returning to our creative roots outside of the podcast. But I feel like I've done my part.
00:03:18
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I feel like it really is time for you to grab that guitar and fucking hit an open mic. I've done everything I can. Have you heard chips and salsa, boy? Because that's what I'm talking about.
00:03:29
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I did. I the only reason I heard it is because some of our fans wrote me to tell me that they loved it. And so then I had to tune in. I can't do it all, bro. Is that enough? Is that enough? We're 80 and we're we're kicking it. Is that you're going to look back and be like well, I did return to music through POS. Is that enough for you? I'll I will stop forever asking you to do a show. If you can tell me you can look me in the eye and tell me that's enough.
00:03:57
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Yeah, I'm not hung up about it, but I'm writing songs i'm I've written. I'm at six or seven good ones. Like when I say good, I mean, it means I've sifted through some real shit to get there. Played it for some people. They like them, they're good.
00:04:09
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So I can play out. Like I'm ready to play out. I just not sure if I want to do open mics and be a bitch ass hoe like you. i don't Well, I don't know if there's another route. I say open mic because that's kind of how I got my feet wet again. But is there another route?
00:04:23
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Not that I want to pursue necessarily. So, i mean, we don't have to compete, dude, but you know, I got chips and salsa right now, dude. I'm going to come up with a new one I'll keep it rolling. All the creativity keeps flowing.
00:04:34
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My goal though, like down the road is, is do a, is a co-show. It's like where it all started. do a co-show. Like, i like if you have a half hour and i have a half hour, we could probably pull together enough people maybe in Denver out here to to
Balancing Serious and Humorous Songwriting
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just do a silly show. That's that's why you would do that, right?
00:04:54
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Oh, yeah. So you're asking me to write some comedy songs. not Well, not necessarily. just i don't Whatever you want to play live. I don't know if you need a band or you want to just do acoustical, serious songs, joke songs.
00:05:09
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I would think it'd be awesome if you did a little bit of both because no one would know okay if you're fucking serious. like You could do a real downer, but and then everyone's just waiting for the punchline, but nope. It's just a serious fucking song about breaking up or political climate and then you've bust out chips and salsa and everyone's like, what are we doing? But, but I'm not recommending your set. I'm just saying you could go either way with it.
00:05:34
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Okay. I mean, I'm talking 28, 29, not, not next week. Oh, yeah, I'll have plenty of stuff, but I might work on some comedy songs. I need a break from the serious, thoughtful stuff, dude, I'll probably do that.
00:05:46
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I could do that. But people like it. Chips and Salsa is not a song, dude, because you haven't even listened to it. No, I have listened to it because people told me i had to, that it's so good. That's that's what I'm saying.
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The listeners told me to listen to I didn't even know you put
Comedy Career and Lifestyle Considerations
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it out. You don't tell me when you put these things out. Why would I? You're too busy. You're always caught up in wood. You know why I'm here, bro. You know why I'm in St. Louis.
00:06:09
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Get that bag, boy. Get that bag. Uh-huh. So I have been busy last few days, dude. You're going to fuck up another job with your comedy addiction. It's going to be just like the last time. No. No.
00:06:23
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i would I would actually be pretty happy for now if... So the booker was really happy. And i think it like the one thing about being a host as opposed to everyone's trying to get up to be a feature or a headliner is that you're you're pretty versatile. Like if you go, I don't give a shit, give me the low man on the totem pole job, which is what I need right now. Because that's really like hosting a show is how you get good at being comfortable on stage and building your act. again Anybody worth their weight should be able to feature You got 20 minutes in the middle of the show, the crowd's warmed up.
00:06:56
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you're not You're not dealing with any of the bullshit. So I'm like, I'll host all night. So so if i if i every time I came up here or you know once a month, this guy would host me. That gives me all that all that stage time just work on shit. So I'd be completely happy with that with that. And it's not going to be a comedy addiction where I'm trying to drive around or pursue anything else.
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I don't think. Sounds like what somebody says right before they up the ante from pot to Coke. ah Oh, yeah. That'd be dope, man. like if What if like pretty quickly, I just got paid and stand up within like two months.
00:07:32
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I'm just fucking boozing and shooting smack into my arms. and Just a complete mess. a Serious question, though, related. because like How are you avoiding alcohol there?
00:07:42
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You got the stress. You got the long wait time. got You haven't hit a beer yet? is that just off limits for the rest of your life? It's not even like a thing. Yeah, you're not interested.
00:07:56
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I just thought it doesn't even come up. And like at no point in time was I, it's not, it's funny. Cause I don't even think, I think the scene's different too. i Like I don't, as far as I can tell, I don't even see that many people like getting fucked up boozing. Like I used to see. I'll be interesting see if you, if you find that depending on where your musical journey goes, if you find that like, dude, I told you on Saturday, just give you an idea.
Shifts in Substance Use and Cultural Trends
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It's not like a party event. On Saturday, granted, it was July 4th. We did a 3.30 show and a 6 o'clock show. I mean, I left the club. I did two shows. I left the club. It was light out. Got it. Okay.
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Yeah, I don't know. And I used to do a club here, the club I'm driving to right now. We had a midnight show on Saturday. So that was a fucking booze. it was It was super fun. But, you know, you can imagine the type of people that are there and and that kind of stuff. Yeah. And I think the culture is changing. There's an actual mocktail bar just opened in Littleton.
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So you you can't get alcohol there. You got to get the fake fruity drinks and all that. So that's interesting. Yeah. Do your kids booze? Like, does your son, like high school kids booze? Because I feel like the younger kids don't, don't like drink that much.
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He does, but I think people are are doing weed a little bit more in Colorado. But is he, is he trying to get, tra is it like kids that go have a couple of beers? There's still kids that are going out getting, trying to get fucking like you, bro.
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if anybody's doing that. Yeah, i feel like it's, ah if they are now it's like, it used to be like kind of a fun social thing. It didn't seem like a problem. Now it's like the people that are doing that, you're like, oh, there might be. Maybe actually it's better now. Maybe that's the thing where people would look at it's like, oh, you you actually have a problem that you need to address.
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Where it was like, you're a fucking badass if you're if you crush back in our day. Yeah, there's still some of that, I think. But I think we've scared people sufficiently with, you're going to get raped.
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Yeah, and pot sort of not quite a taboo thing now. No, not at all. Not at all, sir. I love bot.
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i don't I don't really use it that much right now. like Not at all, really, in a long time. but like That's probably not great for that to be pretty normal like in high school where just people are doing it went like edibles and shit all the time.
00:10:17
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Probably could have a negative effect. Is this a joke? Are we setting up a bit? Yeah, of course. That research has been out for years. It fucks your development. It's not a joke. oh not joke yeah It fucks the developing brain up a lot.
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I guess what my... I don't know. I didn't really... have a coherent thought about but I think you might kind of like you were saying yeah we we tell like you tell your kids that your daughters like don't get fucked up in public you never know what could happen to you and and the idea now might be like well if you're gonna do anything do weed because you're not gonna do anything that stupid And but I'm like, yeah, it's maybe not in the moment. But but if you're doing a whole lot of these fucking crazy, strong strands of dope or edibles, it's like at a young age, it's probably not that great for you. But it might seem like a positive, I guess is what I'm saying.
00:11:04
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this is like a This is like satire for a thoughtful comment. ah Yeah, if you're going to do pot all the time, it's you know i it' just just probably not good for you. Now, what would you rather have your kid Gun to your head. Get fucked up, trashed, or or get high. ah probably infrequently little bit of booze, but not, I think the problem with pot, problem with pot is now with the little vape pens they have, they can puff it constantly. And, and also you can, it is the type of thing that you can hit a lot.
00:11:37
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You hit it before you go to bed, hit it when you wake up and that's what's happening. So now I've reversed course on what I probably would have said five years ago and say, do a little bit of alcohol infrequently.
00:11:49
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See, this is not a, it's not a satire, Joe. It's it's something to be thought Oh, okay. My bad. I think it's pot's not as bad as what they like ah other generations made it out to be. But it's also like now kind of like, it's a good alternative to to booze and all the horror stories that come with with booze, violence, and drunk driving, and ah you know sexual abuse. But like it's not, i don't yeah, I don't know.
00:12:16
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It doesn't matter. My point is I don't have the urge to do any of it when when i since since I started doing stand-up again. okay We got there. i just want people to know I'm looking at a real close-up of this motherfucker in his car while he's driving.
00:12:31
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it's It's a pretty shitty experience for me. I just want people to know that. It's not people. you should know that it's not a shitty experience for him. It's not. It is quite a shitty experience. But i I will ask this question and hopefully get a serious answer, not a satirical one like the last thing we did. ah what What kind of cultural dynamics are being thrown out in the comedy scene now?
00:12:55
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What are some of like the reoccurring themes? And where I was this weekend or in general? Both in general, too. I mean, yeah yeah, because this weekend was a largely African-American audience. So, yeah. What were those themes? And then brought more broadly, what were what are some
Evolving Comedy Styles and Audience Engagement
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other themes? Because I think people want to know what the edge is these days.
00:13:15
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Yeah, and the other thing about this weekend more, ah like i would say different not besides the race, was that I think this guy, he had a lot of jokes about he was a senior citizen. He didn't look like it at all. He looked he was in good shape. But he I think he drew a pretty older crowd.
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So I thought, so his particular material was more like what you'd expect maybe from that older generation. Like ah Joe Jackson was a great man because he because he fucking straightened his kids out, shit like that. okay.
00:13:45
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men men men don't love the women they're with uh but i mean he was getting a lot of a lot of mileage out it lot getting a lot of you know well-written jokes out of these themes but like uh that shit that you would probably would have seen on like if you ever watch comic view or some of those shows on like bt that kind of shit Now, culturally and just the way comedy has changed, I don't know if I can go, oh, the younger generation is always talking about this or that.
00:14:13
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But what I think is like there's less emphasis on like writing jokes and like identifiable punchlines and just like speed, just like how many laughs can I get all the time? And you get like more and more like sort of storytelling and less emphasis on...
00:14:30
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like just getting your laugh i feel like and now you can be like just because you're watching shitty comics but i don't necessarily think so i think it's uh i don't know it's like maybe maybe people are trying to be more relatable than funny something like that huh so what do you mean they're not telling jokes how are they getting laughs without what it used to be like even if it was a shitty jokes you know like like uh I don't know. Like, you know, like when you, you've been in a comedy club where it's kind of smoking and it's like going well and it just feels like you're, you're, you're laughing. You're, and you're getting a laugh line like every 15 seconds. Right. So it's just like, and the people are what we call tagging the joke. So you might have a theme set up and then it's like, get you know, and this like stupid jokes. Turns out it was my mom, you know, like just, just fucking shit like that.
00:15:17
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And then, so you're just like milking laughter out of the room. And now it might just be a story about how your kid is fucked up or your mom's fucked up or something like, and and there's not these identifiable silly laugh points that, that I felt like before there was more of, which I think i written like comedy originally, like was more like that. And maybe it's like going back to that. Like if you watch prior or somebody like that, you're getting like longer stories.
00:15:42
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I don't know if I like that. Sometimes I do, if they're really good at it. But that special Chappelle did where he just sat there and told, probably a 45 minute story. was like, what the fuck is this, man? Why don't you do a podcast with this? And I'm not dissing the greatest ever. i Obviously I couldn't do anything he could do, but come on, dude, like that's a podcast. That's not a show. But I just watched um Mike Epps and he goes from joke to joke to joke, doesn't try to connect everything, just boom, boom, boom, boom. boom And it's great.
Celebrity Influence in Comedy
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he's He's a, he's a pro. This guy actually that I was with this weekend was talking about Mike Epps. But there's also a thing now, like comic comics are so, so big.
00:16:21
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and they're like the biggest stars in the U S right now. And so a lot of it becomes about that stardom and their experiences as the star. And that doesn't, I i don't know, like it it's not as funny to me as like when, like what got them there, you know, because they're just like great comedy writers and lives were fucked up and they were struggling. And all that shit is super funny if you're creative enough to like express it. And so not like hearing about how whatever great interaction you had with Charles Barkley or airport like someone approaching an airport, is it's like, ah.
00:16:53
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Well, let me challenge you. I don't think they're the biggest stars. Well, they're they're they're up, I don't know, what do you what do you you're a revenue guy, right? Torrevenue, that's always been your number. Take a look at ah examples of people we don't even know who the fuck they are, like Alex Cooper.
00:17:09
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She's the host of Call Her Daddy, which is a podcast. That bee has so many fucking fans and so many people that you and i we don't even know what the hell's going on there. I mean, those types of people are huge. So is like obviously Taylor Swift and other divas and things like that, Beyonce.
00:17:29
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so So I don't wanna pick a fight with you here, fella, but- All I'm saying is there's a handful of comics that when I first started, when I left, they were probably like, oh, they might come to Denver and play.
00:17:43
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What is that? The Paramount? Yeah. Paramount's 9000.
00:17:48
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No, no, no, no. Red Rocks, 9,000. Paramount's 1,800. I'm sorry. Yeah, so they might play one of those two places. Now, the bigger name, Nate Brigatti or Shane Gillis, or I don't even know. I'm not good at... I don't even know who's popping, but those two guys are. They're going to go play ball arena and sell that fucker out for, like, three nights.
00:18:06
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Or even bigger. I mean, some the shows they're doing are even bigger. They'd be in, like, a football stadium. And so... and But they're also, like, you know, they're getting big on, like... Like, Theo Vaughn probably could fucking...
00:18:17
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Yeah, they're big for other reasons than just their stand-up. Yeah, also their podcast. yeah Yeah, I don't even know if getting in movies anymore matters a whole hell of a lot. Yeah, they'll they'll like produce their own movie just for fun. Yeah. and but that yeah But that that all that's awesome. and It's good for comedy. It's good for them. But it's also like they're at a in a stratosphere now that's just bizarre.
00:18:40
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I see what you're saying now. So they're they're a personality that fans just go there to love on them, not necessarily to be entertained like in a classic way. They're just loving on the dude. I love fucking Theo. I don't care what he says. I just like the way he talks. Sounds like a country bumpkin. I love it. I love what he says. Stuff. Anything. Just anything. They just love him.
00:19:03
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Yeah, and then what's the incentive for that guy? I mean, I think some of these guys are still doing it because they they're they're awesome, but like, okay, they're going to sit and grind and keep writing material and going to open mic. There's a fine line between like being ah a successful touring comic that still goes to your open mic in your hometown every week when you come off the road to like, I just fucking sold out a...
00:19:23
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you know, in Vesco Field, like, are they going to go the open mic and and grind out new material? Like, takes a guy, but, you know, they might be in New York, so they might be down at the Comedy Cellar working it out or something, or in Austin.
00:19:34
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But, like, you're in a senate different place. You know, I'm sure it happens in musicians, too. Like, what's the incentive? you know like how many are there's not that many rolling stones out there just keep grinding for 50 years or yeah or uh so it it puts them like in a like their celebrity makes makes just makes it makes the experience different and that's why i don't want to get famous lance because i like to give an honest show
00:20:00
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my son went to a concert sunday i didn't even know who the dude was filled ball arena you know you never heard of never even heard of him man Wasn't that dude, that British guy in Denver last weekend?
00:20:11
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What British dude? or This weekend?
Musical Trends and Intergenerational Appeal
00:20:14
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ah I think he's British. I know this because I was kind of joking around with Sophia because I was looking at concerts in Denver when we were going to be there. It was Ed, Ed, Ed.
00:20:24
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Oh, Ed Sheeran? Ed Sheeran. That guy's a B. He's in Denver. Yeah, he was in Denver and this other dude was. So give me I don't really know much about itd like give but Give me your honest opinion about him as a singer-songwriter. Is he like a pop star? Is he a teen idol? like What's going on there? Because I think he sold out where the Broncos play, right?
00:20:43
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like he's He's pretty big. He's a crossover artist, and he probably leans more to older people. like Older women love him. He's got a good voice. He's a great songwriter, and it's very love-oriented and...
00:20:57
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yeah, it's very relationship oriented and older women seem to like him. So he's pulling from there, but, but younger people don't dislike him because of that. He's not a heartthrob. He's just a fucking charming. pretty Yeah. It's not just a straight up pretty face.
00:21:11
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No, not at all. I'm not, and they're not dissing him. um Not your type. I get it. but But you got respect for his chops. Oh, for sure. Yeah. His songwriting is is solid.
00:21:23
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I don't know. It's not where I would go necessarily, but I mean, I'm not selling out stadiums either. So fuck me. But have you heard of this guy? Don Toliver? Don Toliver? No. This is what I'm talking about. This dude was just filled a ball arena. And that's what all the kids went to. The young kids, high school kids.
00:21:39
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He's a rapper? Don Toliver. Really? Yeah, have no idea he is. No fucking clue. Don Toliver. How was the show? ah Like, when did your son come home, like, it was dope, or he was like... He's a kid of few words. He just said it was fun.
00:21:54
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I don't know, bud. I don't know what's happening. You know what he paid? hundred bucks. I don't know where he sat. but But listen, here's what you need to come to terms with. We don't know what's going on.
00:22:04
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I don't know how much longer your comedy career will last. You're about to be 50. You have no idea what's going on. Dude, you have no, like, you're so late to the party on telling me that I don't know what's going on.
00:22:17
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Like, I'm so far removed, like, twice because of my age, because I just never tuned in anyways, and then my, where I live, like... I mean, I cannot tell you how much I don't know what's going on. And it becomes obvious, too. there's a i will say you were talking about what are what are the kids talking about on stage.
00:22:35
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ever if i'm like Tonight, if I get on, I'm going to sign up for the open mic here at the Funny Bone. There'll probably be 40, if I hang out, 40 references that I don't know who they're talking about. like It'll be like pop. you know That's like a song by Tony Coleman. or' I'm like, who the fuck is that?
00:22:51
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you know Yeah, but... i ah yeah but Yeah, but that's good and bad because the other thing is like, so I can't write any topical jokes. So if I write a joke and it's good, most likely it's going to be something that i can use for a while because it's not tied to like a person or an a event.
00:23:06
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You're right. I'm a dinosaur here. But dude, I think though you're over, you're like, when I tell Pete, when I talk to anyone who listens to our show or a friend of mine who knows you, or they're all like, what is he talking about? I would go see him.
00:23:19
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It happens all the time. Like, I don't think people are that worried about our age as much as you are. What you're doing, like there is a ah precedent for like crusty old comics continuing in the scene, talking shit and saying stuff, right?
00:23:34
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Yeah. For original music, it doesn't help you to be older. that's all That's just true. But it helps you to be good and people react to your to your voice and your... Yes.
00:23:46
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And you don't look like a fucking... You didn't look like you let yourself go. Like, i don't... Here's the thing, I think, as you get older, you don't need to be a heartthrob or... You just need to be, like, stomachable. You know, like, enough where people are like, ah, listen to this guy because he's not going to make me vomit because he's fucking so hideous. I think... And you got that. You can check that box.
00:24:06
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Well, good. You know what i mean? I think it happens, too. Like, if you go see, like... like and Like the guys that are rolling into their 80s now, you're like, okay. like Like there's a drastic shift, I think, from like 70s to 80s. So you got like Paul McCartney, maybe some of the Pink Floyd is probably getting up there. like Or even fucking, i don't I don't know if he died. He might've just died. But just like Clint Eastwood, I saw him like a gap when he was like 75 to 93. And i was like, what the fuck? I wish I didn't see that. you know Any movie after that, I hear you. Yeah, dude, i know't these guys...
00:24:38
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I'm not sure why society continues to indulge them. Paul McCartney is a legend. Stop, though. It's time to stop and just kind of sit. This isn't a hot take. I think everybody's feeling this. Everybody's sort of like, boy, people in their 50s and 60s shelling out five, six, seven hundred for Paul McCartney again. My question is, why? yeah I know why. i know why.
00:25:03
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Well, one of the reasons why is it's always, this might be the last time. Like I've heard that a lot. This might be the last time I can see this guy. It's you're not seeing him. You're not seeing what you, what you're not seeing Mick Jagger, Madison Square Garden, you know, 75. You're seeing 1975. I mean, you're seeing an actual 75 year old or 82 year old Mick Jagger, but you don't have anybody like that. So you, maybe you don't understand, like this there's nobody that you've been tracking hard for 40 years or just like, well, it is what it is, but yeah.
00:25:33
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ah Well, i'm I'm good at letting go, but I just think the Rolling Stones need to stop. it doesn't It's impressive that you can still get out there and everything, but come on, make some space, let some people through. It's the same with professors right now. These tenured fucking professors won't leave because they have a good gig because nobody's ever gonna fire them, but they need to leave so we can get new people in to do some better research.
00:25:59
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Same thing with bands. We're following the same formulas. I'm not saying anything I do is innovative. I know it's not. It is classic, middle-of-the-road, GCD pop.
00:26:10
Speaker
But these these old dudes, they've got to go. i have no i have no love left for these dudes. Right. But you got nothing that – you don't have to feel bad. You're not you're not taking a young kid's spot if you go play a a gig or anything. It's like you're fine. You're not – You're not holding anybody back. I mean, there's there's a lot of, there's that happens everywhere where it's just like people can't let go. or that's but And it's also like that's what they do.
00:26:35
Speaker
Like they don't know anything else. Like you talk you talk you spent some time talking about people like people that their one track mind, whether it's like start a business or or I'm all in on rock climbing or whatever and that bothers you. Well, a lot of these people, this is it.
00:26:48
Speaker
You know, like what, what else are they going to do? Start gardening? No, fine. so I'm not saying that's ah an excuse, but like, but they don't know anything else. Yeah. Wow.
00:26:59
Speaker
And you don't know anything else but comedy. So you're walking into the club. Yeah. I'm just going to go hit a sign up and then I'll come back out. I'm, but I think I'm pretty at peace right now because I can't even get access to this if I want to for, for three, four weeks at a time.
00:27:15
Speaker
Yeah. So forced by geographic distance, I have to force myself to calm down and not be addicted. Yeah. And and like, what ah you know, if I go, what did you do this weekend that was so great? What what what kept you going? What entertained you? If I look at what I did, this would have done this weekend if I wasn't doing these shows, this was the best this was the best thing I could have done.
00:27:37
Speaker
Like, i didn't i want i'm not I'm not going to go out and party or anything like that. So i was like, I hung out, told some jokes, watched some people tell like make people laugh. It was like it was a nice weekend.
00:27:48
Speaker
well that's good, man. That's all I care about is you being happy, fella. There's probably like 10, 25-year-old comics that got fucked and they didn't get to work and pursue their dreams because my old ass was in the way.
00:28:03
Speaker
I'm a piece of shit.