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Single Minded Fools
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We don't want your contribution to society anymore. Can't you just go away? We don't want to see your face or hear your voice anymore.
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Remote Conversations and Evolving Interests
00:00:34
Speaker
Let get, the internet's little slow. I'm back in Costa Rica, so we'll see. No pre-show, we're just going for it, huh? Woo! Yeah.
00:00:44
Speaker
Hey, how have your interests over the years changed? Like, have you been locked in on, do you stay locked in on something like surfing for like a 10-year span, or do you, is it two, three years? What's your cycle, bro?
00:00:56
Speaker
Well, I think we gotta to go all the way back to Transformers, dude. And when I ditched them, I was late. First of all, I would like to say I was kind of late on everything. Like I probably still was like, let's play with toys up until maybe like freshman year in high school.
Surfing Passion and Hobbyist Tendencies
00:01:11
Speaker
But um I mean, my interest in surfing, it's, it's been, it's actually, I've been interested in it for like 25 years, but really in it, obsessed with it. It's, it all started in August of 2020 and I'm still, I'm still there.
00:01:26
Speaker
I was obsessed with standup for a long time. I literally like, Completely dropped out of it, didn't watch it, didn't think about it. 15 years in, 10, maybe 10, 11 years out, sort of limping back in, but with no real initiative.
00:01:43
Speaker
but you're kind of a serial hobbyist. No, definitely not, dude. Definitely not. You know serial hobbyists. We have a friend who's a serial ho hobbyist who like will go out and get all the gear. immediately Day one has got like the nicest guitar or the nicest golf clubs. or I'm not that guy. You're kind of monogamous with your hobbies.
00:02:02
Speaker
that's That word in me, don't get along, bro. Oh, yeah, okay. I'm having a hard time pegging you down. Boy, you're interesting. When you say monogamous, I think I only think about it in a relationship. um Yeah.
00:02:18
Speaker
Well, how do you see me? I mean, I've gone through phases, but some of it's related to where I'm at. Like I love, you know, I love snowboarding. I kind of built my life around it for a while. and moved up to the mountains, everything. And then i don't I don't know. I've gone through phases though with age and kids and stuff like that. Do I think I'll be surfing in 20 years? We talked about it, but I'd like to be, but maybe I'll just be like, I'm getting kind bored of this.
00:02:41
Speaker
Yeah, I guess the setup is really just to so to make fun of people that only do one thing their whole life. I know we talked about it a little bit. i think it's great. you know. No, and i don't I don't know.
00:02:51
Speaker
I don't know. I think it's maybe limiting. I have more of an exploratory approach to life where I'm open to putting aside the things that maybe I've tied my identity to and
Skill and Enjoyment in Activities
00:03:03
Speaker
trying some new things. Yeah, I've always been open like that.
00:03:05
Speaker
There's a balance of like, when do you, when can you really know if you enjoy it? And also like, Everything's kind of fun at the first time, but also you don't really get the true experience because you suck or you don't have the physical stamina or you're not you know you don't even know where to go. if it's Maybe it's artwork or music. like Does the guitar get funner as you get better? Or is it like that first time you actually played a song is as good as it's going to you know But I don't get bored of shit. yeah like there I know people, at and and this is something about with son all the time,
00:03:35
Speaker
Because he'll he'll go all in, like so all in on something. This is it. It's what I do. And then it'll be like, i don't feel like doing it anymore. that That doesn't really happen to me like like like him. I don't know if that happens to you. He's like all in. I'm a skateboarder. I'm a hooper. I'm a rock climber right now. But now he's at least mature. I go, is this it? Is this the one dude? and hit Yesterday we were rock climbing. He's like, I'm not saying that.
00:03:58
Speaker
I'm not saying that. You know how i am. And I was like, you know, you can rock climb for the rest of your life. It doesn't have to be, you don't have to be a fucking pro. You could just be like, oh, this is something i do for exercise occasionally. You don't have to quit.
00:04:10
Speaker
Or, you know, he thinks he's got to be like, I'm done. So you don't have to be done with anything. You go, you know. So, um but i'm not a I'm not a hobbyist where it's like, I'm bored. I got bored of this, really.
00:04:23
Speaker
Okay. Okay. so Yeah, I'm kind of an ease in guy. Ease into something, try it out, but I'm not afraid to like- ba You are?
Commitment to Interests and Energy Issues
00:04:32
Speaker
you talking about you're an easing guy what are you easing into nothing dude are you crazy uh i'm easing into the energy crisis i've got a book on coal right here dude showing it to him listeners showing it to him uh i ease in yeah ease into like biking or stuff like that but you didn't ease into it you're all in on the energy crisis you didn't ease into it you got rid of your cars you got a prius you got an electric bike
00:04:58
Speaker
Yeah, but that's over years, years of thinking about it. The Prius happened in 20, shit, dude, 16? Solar panels. 2016. 2020. See, do you see?
00:05:11
Speaker
The e-bike came in 2023. It's nice, it's nice ramp. Until you're like jogging to your destinations and in place of flying, you're going like, I'm just putting my toes in the water.
00:05:26
Speaker
I don't know. I don't see you as ah as a easy and ease in guy, really. I think my language is not emblematic of somebody who fucking is mellow. No, I sound like a fucking psycho.
00:05:40
Speaker
But in all reality, I kind of take a slow approach to getting into something. I'm not. I could see you as being, I got bored of this guy. I could see that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK.
00:05:50
Speaker
What's that mean? I see you more as again, I don't really know you, but I see you as like I'm I'm going pretty hard. I'm going form an opinion about something. I'm going to go in hard. I'm going to go all in. And then you might be like, all right, I did that. And I'm I i don't feel like doing that anymore.
00:06:09
Speaker
Yeah, you're gonna go all in and then you're gonna milk it and then you might be like, yeah, okay, i did that. I see what it is and I did it. um But what's, so like, what's what is guitar? What's something that you stuck with forever besides your marriage?
00:06:22
Speaker
Parenting. you didn You didn't get bored of that? Yeah, I'm pretty bored of it, dude. I'm not lying. ah Owning a house, bored. A job, bored.
00:06:33
Speaker
Those aren't hobbies. of they're They're like requirements,
Identity and Work Culture Critique
00:06:36
Speaker
sort of. it Well, some people make them hobbies, they make their job their interest because they have no other choice to justify their sad, pathetic fucking life. That's a joke. If you start a small business, you need to get one of those fools on your team so it's not you, but let them drive drive that bitch forward, you know? and See the sacrifices you've had to make to get this business off the ground?
00:06:56
Speaker
You are like, you know, you're loving wood right now. You like borderline worship wood. You know that's that's the kind of shit I i can't do. i i was at my supplier this morning, and i and I just happened to be there on the right day where they got a bunch of shit in, and I got to it before all all the other vendors.
00:07:16
Speaker
And I like, you know, I always liked the hook, like getting hooked up or or being the insider. Remember back when i used to line up all the parties? like The guy with no with information. I know you were too busy. I don't know what you're doing, but... This is Boulder? don't remember that. it was high school, dude. High school. High school. I threw the fucking parties.
00:07:36
Speaker
Well, I was one that got people there. Anyways. Oh, did you? Okay. Yeah. I mean, I was bridging gaps. Friends groups, cliques, high schools. i was I was pulling it together, dude.
00:07:49
Speaker
but Okay. You were only like guys that lifted weights. I had more range in friends groups. So you were like, I'm not partying unless you've got a decent bench press.
00:08:01
Speaker
That's true. That's true. Squat thrust. you're and ah You're all hand cleans. you You realize that was the most athletic weightlifting and that's you wanted explosiveness in your party. That's true. And the women needed to be able to do it as well.
00:08:14
Speaker
Yeah, I don't care. I don't fucking care. I don't care about the wood, but I do like the fact that, oh, the fact that I'm down here, like, oh, I got i was privy to this stuff. So I don't, I honestly, I'm not going say I don't care about the wood. I think it's cool.
00:08:28
Speaker
I just, it's just like something I got to do and and and I want it to work. so No, it's cool. But but ah do you find yourself suppressing aspects of it that are like, oh, this is fucking stupid?
00:08:40
Speaker
um do or do you vocalize those or, you know, and and if you suppress it, is it just to prevent barriers from getting in the way of what you know you have to do? Yeah, there's that. There's a little bit of just like, just plow ahead. It's more like that, just plow ahead. Like it is what it is, but, but There is like, I don't know about hobbies or fun stuff, but something like this. Okay. There's a, there's a little like wonder loss to, Oh, I started a business. It's working. and I'm building something. I did it myself. And then I'm, I'm over all that. And I'm bored of that. And every aspect it, like completely, I'm just like, who yeah cares?
00:09:15
Speaker
Cause I don't have any, any of the, I want everyone to know me as an entrepreneur, as a leader. have none of that, no aspiration. So it doesn't do anything for me. Do you know anybody that's like that?
00:09:27
Speaker
Everyone, actually. i do i know i do know someone like that. You know someone like that. And I think it's good. It's it's like encouraging our society. but i don't like i have no And I'm not saying this because I'm so cool that I'm above it. Maybe it's laziness or lack of self-confidence, but I have no desire to like make it my identity and be and be like, dude, I did this.
00:09:48
Speaker
like I just don't feel any sense of pride about it. Here's something that I've concluded having talked to you for three years and tell me if this is accurate. I think both of us could probably hang next to a beach, maybe have our fingers in something small and a pizza parlor, dumb, you know or playing music, maybe a little comedy here and there.
00:10:10
Speaker
And that would be that'd be all right. No more ambition. Yeah, 100%. No more desire. I think both of us would be just like, yeah, whatever, bro.
Ambition, Lifestyle, and Future Ventures
00:10:20
Speaker
I would do it in a second. I talk i mean, I even, i talked to the guy who's the supplier down here is who's, I mean, it's just another guy. It's pretty impressive what he done, what he's done, you know, find, just finding these ways to, you to get the supply chain going when he harvest trees and and all that stuff. and And I was just like, he's just like, yeah, you, you gotta be doing something. Right. And I'm like, not at all.
00:10:39
Speaker
I don't fucking care. He's just like, what what would you do? You're going to you get bored. You're just surfing. And I was like, well, let me find that out. It's like, let me, let me push the limit on that shit. Cause, uh, I might, I mean, I might, but it's like, let me do it.
00:10:54
Speaker
Let me, fit let me get there. You know what i mean? Let me say i got bored with this awesome thing. Well, that's what'm at my thing and and I'm gonna interrogate these types of people, but the the person that can never let go of work is the person that's always screaming out, you'd get bored.
00:11:11
Speaker
You get bored. I was talking some guys that probably two and a half years ago, six months after I retired, we were watching some basketball. My kid was playing, their kids were playing. And I said, what do you do? And I was like oh, I just left work. I retired. And one of the guys was like, had retired previously and then decided to go back to work because he got bored. And he is he's like, so how long you been retired? at Six months. So, oh yeah, talk to me in a couple of years.
00:11:35
Speaker
You'll be back to work. And I'm just like, I don't think so, bud. I don't think so. Now, I'm not – just to say it doesn't make me special, dude, but there is a certain type of dude that has nothing else but that touchdown scoring, work-related approach to life.
00:11:52
Speaker
and I don't get that guy. I don't really hang with that guy well, to be honest. You mentioned the a person we know who's like that, and I and and i hope – I mean, we're all getting old, so that person – probably has changed and realigned his security, and I would think, and and maybe he doesn't tie himself. like what He was trying to put some value on himself all the time. And we're all like, maybe now he he's not like yeah, that's not the only value I bring to the world. But like people always like that they put so much value in their work, and that's their only self-worth.
00:12:26
Speaker
So then, yeah, i don't I just don't have that. But but I will say this. I've mentioned a few times and we joked about it and you told me it's ridiculous and stupid, but I am moving forward to to make the the nonprofit for conservation.
00:12:39
Speaker
So my brother said it was stupid. You were like, that's a fucking dumb gay idea. Off the air, off the air. So no, no kidding. But I do see a path.
00:12:50
Speaker
where I tie everything together and it all makes sense. It's like from anything from this podcast to, oh, why did i do standup for so long? I i know all these these people where I'm like, I'm going to call them up and I'm going to do a fucking fundraiser and I'm going to do standup and it's going to raise money for for this cause. And the whole thing is going to be great. The whole thing just going to be fun. Like I'm doing something fun. And I'm like, I could see that as a great retirement for you, for me, my brother.
00:13:16
Speaker
you know, anybody I want to get involved. I could even my ex, or still my wife, but I could be like, you're a photographer. I just feel like there's like a lot of people I could potentially help But not that not that I'm some martyr, like you I think you meant said that before, but just like, oh, this this might be like the thing that ties everything together in my life. And there's a reason why, like I don't give a fuck about wood, but but there's a reason I'm doing this maybe. Maybe it's all tied together.
00:13:42
Speaker
So we'll see. That's a very- if you If you make it that, you'll have to just make it that though, which it sounds like you want to do. Wow. Right. But i well, the first thing is getting the 501 C, but, but here's where, where you and I think where we'd be cool with this or something like, Oh no, it's got it. You gotta be on, you know, that my goal is to market it on some huge, it's like, well, what if I have a show in St. Louis for 20 people?
00:14:06
Speaker
We make 150 bucks and I've been more to this fund. Great. Right. Like there's, yeah. Oh yeah yeah. I don't have, it doesn't have to be the biggest, it doesn't have to be United, United way or but and it and maybe it'll grow into that. But I'm also like, who cares that that's like a great way to beat. I can have the headquarters in a, in a fucking beach town or a pizzeria is. And after my kids are done and it's just like, Oh, that's a cool thing to do.
00:14:30
Speaker
So I'm, I'm thinking about that. Like, I don't know if this ties into what your original question is, but I'm like, Oh, that might be the way to handle retirement. You know what i mean? which I'm so far from retirement. It's funny. Yeah, I think that's fantastic. But how can we trash the way other people live in this context?
00:14:48
Speaker
Who's a target for us to make fun of? I mean, who's not doing it right? That sounds like a reasonable perspective. Who are the pieces of shit? I don't know. i mean, because even the people you talk about, I don't like i know i know them. I'm with them.
00:15:03
Speaker
like The people that are like, their whole life is work. And you're like, yeah you're like, Well, they're not doing it to be assholes, you know, necessarily. They are assholes because of it, but they're like, they're in in their, in their head. They're like, they're doing something great. Or some of them I even know that are like, if I don't do it, nobody will. And there's a lot of people depending on this. So got to do it. Or, you know, there's that kind of attitude or, uh, so I would trash those people, but I'm also like, they have what they, in their head, it's justified, you know? Yeah. It's, that's generous take.
00:15:39
Speaker
No, I was just curious like ah if that clearly for most people and in American society and and Western society overall, like the capitalistic framework obviously compels you to do work and to make work a big part of your identity.
00:15:53
Speaker
And i I've taken another path where I'm kind of battling against that, battling against it socially, also just living with a pace that most people to can't relate to. And it's just a contrast. So that's why I like to talk little shit. But like, yeah, most people can find a way to justify that.
00:16:10
Speaker
And they're not bad people. that They're all trying to get where everyone's jokingly and seriously trying to get where you are. but Maybe, yeah, I don't know. i just like they're just there' There's a sense of those there's never enough. There's a never enough. They want to get to where you are, where they're so confident that everything, any possible derailment is okay. you know like people People have so either a number or a life state or something in their head, but they're like, know thing i the only way I could do what Lance did or what other people did is if I have 10 million in the bank and and my kids are 40 and um what ah you know like people put these weird...
00:16:46
Speaker
things around it which I feel like that that's how I feel about this non-profit is like oh I don't need anything I don't have anything now so it's like I should just do it I don't have to be fucking Bill Gates right I mean someone who who secretly molested young women exactly that little fucking dweeb yeah so I wasn't very smart I wasn't smart Bill No, but most people would be like, um I don't do charity work until my life is set. And that's that's okay. I'm like that too.
00:17:13
Speaker
But then I'm like, you know what? Who cares? I could i could do something. It might work out. So I'm going to try it. Yeah,
Capitalism and Venture Capitalist Intentions
00:17:19
Speaker
yeah. And and ah I think that's good. I want to make fun of it some more, but I need to do a hypocrisy alert because obviously I'm sucking off the teat of capitalism with the many investments that I stare at every fucking day, quite literally every fucking day.
00:17:33
Speaker
I think people already know I'm a piece of shit, but it's important when I'm, ah Raw dogging. What's raw dogging mean, by the way? I mean, and I thought, of you know I mean, a couple of things. Sex without a condom, maybe commando's no underwear.
00:17:51
Speaker
but you What you were thinking, like, creatively. Well, I was going say I'm raw dogging. these people that are focused on work, but that means I'm probably like slapping my penis in their face, like rubbing my balls down their nose. I don't know. It it doesn't matter. I'm talking shit. You're criticizing them basically, right?
00:18:10
Speaker
ah Yes, I'm criticizing them as I suck off the teat of capitalism in a very big way. That should be obvious. But back to the boring fucking idiot that can only work. Do you know people that there's no necessity for it?
00:18:25
Speaker
they That they're still doing it? There's no necessity to add more money? Well, you could make the argument almost everybody, but they I mean, you could realign your life like drastically. but um Yeah, I know people like that.
00:18:39
Speaker
But they I can't- Yeah, they already won. they already they already got ahead, but they might be back in the game because they're investing in other people, me, younger you know younger companies or something. And I'm like, well, that is the way you're supposed to do it in this world. What do you think of those people, though?
00:18:57
Speaker
that invest their money in small business? No, like the venture capital person and that everybody's hungry hungry to be a venture capital or a private equity type guy who can pick winners and losers and and decide in the wonderful things to invest in and support great entrepreneurs because entrepreneurship is really the lifeblood of the American economy. Like what do you think of the person that- Is it any better or worse than you and i putting money into the market?
00:19:23
Speaker
I think then the name- venture capitalist makes it just makes it sound like someone who's just strictly in it to to try to get 10x out of it and that's it.
00:19:35
Speaker
but But that's the case. That's why I think it's worse. I think they're all these big big dream ah extend the size of my cock type guys. But they're yeah I mean some them are but also it's what it's led to a lot of ah positive positive stuff in people's lives probably.
00:19:54
Speaker
Really? Like when the local urgent cares are all taken over by some chop shop hatchet man private equity? There's private equity, but like our our business, which yes, ruined my life and got, yeah, just kidding. but my my The business that I just left, that I was there for like 15 years was was venture funded and it ended up employing hundreds of people.
00:20:18
Speaker
It grew from three people to hundreds of people and and most of people there, and had jobs and also got in the medical device field and are now like doing pretty well or or whatever. But like, I'm like, I don't, I don't know what the, in and they did the initial venture of investors get paid on the deal. They probably got paid, but i doubt it was what they wanted. It was like 20 years of investment to get a few acts back in in the end, I would think. But like, you know, I don't know. I met some of those people. They weren't like scoundrel assholes. Some them were just like,
00:20:49
Speaker
they I mean, literally, they're like older people in St. Louis that had money. They pulled they put a fund together and they investing in money. But they also put stipulations that you had to bring your business to St. Louis because they're trying to help the local economy.
00:21:01
Speaker
Let me ask you this. one moves to St. Louis, dude. No one without incentive. No, no, definitely not. Let me ask this. and And don't answer the question until I finish. a little more set up. Was it a net positive for society with the backdrop of insane poverty across the world, like a healthcare system that bankrupts people relative to investments back into people, was that business a net positive for society?
00:21:30
Speaker
Or could those smart people have put that ingenuity and that talent towards solving a societal problem? I think, well, I will, the other, the other aspect of it, which I think is, so I'm going say yes, but there was ah a bit of a partnership, which is how a lot of, you know, someone like Bill Clinton, when he's not getting sucked off would say, you know, the real, the real balance on what you're saying and what, what the venture people are doing is that balance of private versus in public, you know, like a bonding, those two things together to bring, bring something to the community. And, So their money was like tied to a fund, like also a public fund, the fund that we got. And then we had it like you had to put your office in like lower income areas and and like they were trying to revive certain areas. So I would say it was probably a net positive. Now, I mean, on the other side, it's a medical device. So then you're like, OK, so you're selling your instruments.
00:22:23
Speaker
and you're trying And you're trying to make a profit off people's sickness or something like that. Right. Yeah. The whole medical device industry in the whole, it's like, I, I'm a little like, i don't know. I think it's kind of weird, but I do see some innovation because of private equity and in that, in the space. And mean, I'm just like the same shit we we joke about. I'm just like, just be healthy before you, and maybe you don't need all that shit.
00:22:47
Speaker
Well, sure, sure. It drove up the price of healthcare to have the advanced technology. As I sit here and do nothing with the time I have and just stare at my investments, I question i question whether there shouldn't be a marketplace for solving society's problems that maybe aren't so...
00:23:07
Speaker
tied to 10x type of investment, but there's some other dividend or some other cultural dividend or societal accolade that people want to pursue to take their ingenuity instead of developing a fucking social media website or something like that that's harmful and actually stupid. will go after climate change and poverty and some of these major problems.
Aligning Investments with Societal Benefits
00:23:33
Speaker
I don't know if that's possible. I don't know where... where if you If you watch that Netflix special on Bill Gates, like he is that he's actually doing that, like trying to trying to make water filtration systems and nuclear energy that's is that's like on a small scale that's easily deployable and safe. and He's doing Yeah, he's doing that after after he made it so big that he you'd laugh him out of the room if he wasn't contributing back to society. It's like, well, can you get on the front end and can people create something big that's dedicated to the thing that's the problem? Plastic in the ocean.
00:24:09
Speaker
put Put the best MIT grads on on that. Right. Yeah. what Like how can you create that kind of marketplace where private equity comes to to put their name on this shit? And maybe it's not the full, obviously not the full part of their portfolio, but like this, these are the things that our society is going to need, or we're just going to have like 50% of the population and and cities are dystopian shitholes. And the other ones are like the UAE or the, the,
00:24:36
Speaker
You're like an Emirati fucking prancing on the beach, are just beautiful hotels. That's my, that's my take. When I listened to you talk about your stupid fucking nonprofit. It's all came from me going, do I quit snowboarding?
00:24:50
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, but there's no right, there's no right single bullet, you know? So like, I don't, I mean, as all the venture ventures relatively new, what does it mean? Be like a 40 or 50 year old industry.
00:25:02
Speaker
you know, all the tech, all the venture money that's been made and poured into tech, like, you know, I think you and I would say it's a net negative, but, but I don't know. It's like, ah I'm a bit of a hypocrite because I use it. I'm communicating with you on a, it's pretty amazing. We're in two different countries and we're lighting up the world and entertainment wise, you know, I market on, I'm able to market to thousands of people.
00:25:27
Speaker
you know, like through this, these stupid things. So I'm a bit of a hypocrite right now, but, um, yeah, I mean, i don't know. that's it point That's the point. Yeah.
00:25:38
Speaker
But I mean, you would hope that the, you know, back to the original thing about, do just get bored of stuff? You would hope that some of these things aren't that bad. Be like social media and stuff. Just because like, like, is this just like, bor like, don't just get bored? Fuck. Like it is pretty boring. Even yesterday, I think one of my kids was like,
00:25:55
Speaker
We're watching one of their hobbies on YouTube and there is like, I'm bored. It's like, exactly. Like, I don't know. boredom Boredom should be like, is the governor for mankind. You know, when you're doing something like just too much, it's like, oh, you're bored. Well, that's your, that's nature telling you to fucking stop.
00:26:13
Speaker
so Yeah. Yeah. I guess I wanted to get to like, is it okay for these venture capital private equity motherfuckers to just go off into the sunset and and just do something that nobody has to know about and and and not say, oh, I just fucking love leading and I love fucking growing businesses and young people and all. Nope. Nope. Can you go off and maybe like, I don't know, make candles, do some crystals, just get out of our lives. Because what I'm what i'm after is a little less venture capital and private equity.
00:26:44
Speaker
and a little more sitting by the beach fucking kicking it. You already did it. You made it. Can you get out of our lives? ah That's my main point for today. Yeah.
00:26:55
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But I think that's a self. I mean, that's a I don't know if that's like a societal criticism that comes down to the person and people just can't calm down. Like, but, but are they, it's like, in a way it's like, are you so insecure that you can't, you can't handle it that you're out of the limelight and that you're, and so that's your, that's your value is like, I'm this great moneymaker and that's the only value you bring to society. So you can't hang it up. Is that what bothers you?
00:27:22
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Maybe, maybe. Now the criticism me, well, but that's because you can't do it. And if you were on top, you would just keep going and crushing because you would be validated as a winner. And no, I just, some of these guys, they made their millions. they They kind of gang raped the labor force.
00:27:41
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They fucking brought prices painfully low and killed other businesses. And they still keep going and influencing the marketplace to the detriment of 50% of the population, I'm just like, well, you just fucking retire.
00:27:55
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Go live on a mega yacht and just get the fuck out of our faces. Like Peter Thiel, stop fucking going on a speaking tour and talking about the antichrist or whatever the fuck you're doing.
00:28:06
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Like to some of these people, I just want them to leave. And that's why i get a little annoyed when the everyday people admire these folks and it's all about pursuing the ten x pursuing the bigger thing growing growing growing never enough and then i hope to collect millions on my stocks in the future here it's such a hip what a great way bitch about it and pass go and collect dude the exploitation is so much worse than what what you see in the us i just stopped by to see a friend who got a new job
00:28:38
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She's just trying to figure figure out what she wants to do in her life, but she got a job and it's the big, it's like, holy shit. It was like, what building are you going to? When I went through like the gates and it's just, and it's like customer service call center land for like these huge, beautiful buildings, but like so many people. And it's like, they're all making between 700 and maybe a thousand bucks a month.
00:29:00
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And they're just fucking dealing with idiot gringos. Wow. or whatever, they're just like doing call center service and people are, and I'm sure some people are bankrolling it, you know, cause they're like, this great. There's cheaper labor down here and they speak English well. And so we're going to do it there. And it's like the exploitation is so, so much worse than what you even, what we think, what we consider getting exploited in the U S is so, it's so sad.
00:29:26
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It's so ridiculous, but yeah. Well, that's probably why i sent you that article about Amazon um fucking with Levi's and and ah trying to tell them to to lower their, or excuse me, raise their prices on other platforms and keep them low on Amazon. And I was like, oh my God, this is insane. And you're probably thinking about the the call center in Costa Rica and all those poor people working for peanuts.
00:29:53
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My only thing, my pushback to you would be like, why do we... Why, like everyone's trying to do it, whether we like it or not, right? There's like price gouging and people trying to, like, why do we, why is it so much more?
00:30:05
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i mean, why is it surprising? Why is it so much worse when someone like Amazon does it? Like it's the most normal thing in business to be an asshole and try to fuck other people, which is sad, but it's like, why is it worse? Because it's them.
00:30:16
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No, we've, it's not worse because it's them. It's we've accepted large businesses. Yeah, we so accept that large businesses do that. But like if a black man goes in and steals a TV during a riot, we'll put him away for 10 years.
00:30:30
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I'm not saying that people shouldn't take the incentives that the marketplace has before them and try to exploit them. It's just that we have drawn some lines around what's fair. And so let's stay within those lines.
00:30:43
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And that's all I'm asking, dude, because otherwise, why not just take out a gun, go to the grocery store, fucking fill your cart and... pointed at the cashier and say, fuck off. Like, what if we don't draw any lines on what's what's fair, ah that's my thing, bro. That's all I gotta say, doc.
00:30:59
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Hope my investments go up. Hope my investments go up. Hope they go up, up, up, up. Would you rather, okay, here's an example of our, my my business, it's like, it's just, it's pretty hard to um to be competitive. Like, like if we're buying table bases that are made out of steel. it's hard It's hard for any US company to be competitive because it's so much more expensive.
00:31:21
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If you were an investor in my company, would you be like, don't worry about the margin or my stock, just just use an expensive local guy to fabricate these steel bases? Or would you be like, that's awesome that you're 80% cheaper and better margin by getting it from China.
00:31:35
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Like, where do you draw the line on that that type of stuff? out of principle there by American? is that what you're asking? Like, are you principled in terms of buying American versus? I'm just saying, even that thing with Amazon, we were just like these evil asshole people. And I'm like, well, I got to buy legs from China because i because it's my job and it's it makes way much more business sense to do it.
00:31:57
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But it's not like i had fucking horns going out of my head. But like the ah the idea the other options just make less money, right? And no, no, I believe, no sorry. We have a little delay. So, but I believe in free trade, free trade, dude. So China does that better, fine. We'll buy that from them.
00:32:15
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Then I'll put it on a boat. There's environmental impact, there's financial impact. That article, yeah, the article from Amazon was that they were like racketeering. like Like if they were John Gotti, that's what mafia people do, right? Like they were like, you you this is the price you're gonna use, and which I admire.
00:32:32
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Yeah, there's a little movement in the millennial and younger crowd where they just go into whole Foods and steal shit. They're like, fuck Amazon. There's a name for it, isn't it? Like mob shopping or mob mobbing or something like that, isn't it?
00:32:46
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I'm not sure, but hey. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, that would be scary as fuck though if you're in a store and like 300 people just come in there and just start ripping shit out and running. taking oranges and pineapples and shit crazy especially if they're bosnians oh yeah fuck yeah bosnians yeah well good job man i know you gotta go i wish i this sucks that i gotta go i gotta go get my kids this is a nice one oh yeah we'll see about that dude i think we should you made me think we should revisit the the hobby thing because
00:33:21
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There is something I've done. and Now in hindsight, I've realized a few things that were very, very important to me, snowboarding and stand up. I quit like the way I quit cigarettes, like like cold turkey, like I'm done.
00:33:33
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i don't know if you remember, but i I quit. I think my bachelor party, I don't know if you're you there, we're up in Vail, snowed like all weekend. I don't think so. And I think that was the last time I snowboarded and i was like, I'm done.
00:33:45
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and then And then I really quit until my kids were like, come on, man. And then I started again. But I'm like, nope, I stopped. I don't snowboard anymore. What the fuck's that about, though? I don't know. That's why. that's Maybe we should revisit it. I'd like to get to the bottom. All right. Okay.
00:34:00
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All right. Until next time, fella. All right. Good job. I got to go.