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Q&A SPECIAL: The Statesman!
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Five-time top 100 finisher and two-time AFL Fantasy Classic hat wearer (3rd overall in 2018) The Statesman joins Dos & Lewy to answer all of your questions from social media! A special Wednesday night edition of the #PODPOD to prepare you for the second week of fantasy footy action!
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Transcript
Introduction and Expert Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
On this episode of the Point of Difference AFL fantasy podcast, we talk with the fantasy guru, The Statesman, to answer all your questions ahead of round two.
00:00:19
Speaker
Welcome to the Point of Difference podcast for a very special edition Wednesday night edition.
Round One Strategy and Reflections
00:00:26
Speaker
Louie, we've got a very, very special guest with us for this one, and it is five time top one hundred and two time hat winner, the Statesman. Welcome aboard Stado. It's great to be back on the draft, doctors. Only one week off.
00:00:43
Speaker
Nice to have you, Stado. No, no, no, wrong podcast, mate. This is the Pod Pod, but it's good to have you back on the airwaves for everyone to hear your very juicy advice. This time, of course, for AFL fantasy classic, and you are a guru in that region, but how'd you go for round one, Stado?
Ruck Strategy and Player Concerns
00:01:03
Speaker
Yeah, very impressed with my structure. It worked quite well. I pretty much went guns and rookies model. I know we're all pretty scared of the lack of rooks during the preseason, but they all fell into place for us, which is absolutely fantastic.
00:01:19
Speaker
Scoring wasn't brilliant, but I'm sort of got into that sort of mid 1800 range. But I lost about about 110 points with the wrong rooks on the field. But that's okay, they're making cash. I've got all the ones that I need to have. So I'm not chasing rooks week two. I miss the carnage.
00:01:41
Speaker
So that is fantastic. So I actually had a bit of coin in the bank, so I can actually make some moves that are going to help my team while other people were trying to manage the little damage. I'm sure a lot of people want to know what your rock setup is looking like this season, Stado. There's a lot of people rolling with the dual rookies like myself. I think you're a bit more conservative than that. You're a bit more old-fashioned. You like premium rock in there, do you?
00:02:08
Speaker
Yeah, I've got one Primo. I've been hot on Grundy in the whole off season, but I'm very worried about Steph Martin, to be honest. So I avoided Grundy thinking he was going to have a bad one, but probably wasn't seeing how much the rucks were going to be harmed by the new model.
Performance Concerns and Strategy Adjustments
00:02:28
Speaker
I'm not.
00:02:28
Speaker
Convinced that's the way it's going to be so With the easy run that he had I went gone Understand that's a massive price to pay and certainly didn't work around one and certainly having the sea on him Wasn't that healthy either, but I'm reasonably happy to sit it out for three weeks if the trend is absolutely clear then and
00:02:53
Speaker
then I'll make the cup but I'm quite happy to say he's going to be the top two ruckmen. So I've already paid the price, happy to accept that and the Flynnmeister is my R2.
00:03:07
Speaker
Beautiful, beautiful stuff. Well, Stata, we will ask a few questions of you, I think, during this show. That's what we've got here for a bit of a Q&A for the people. But I think our man Lou here might have some stuff to ask you as well that he's got lined up.
Trading Advice and Strategy
00:03:22
Speaker
Maybe before we get going, just a bit of highbrow fantasy, fantasy question here for you.
00:03:28
Speaker
Yeah, so I was actually really keen to ask you this Stata and my eyebrows picked up when you said that you underspent going into round one. So clearly you're thinking about the future a little bit. So I just want to ask you, do you chase a premium like McCray straight out the box if you have the funds? Bank the hope he's going to perform or outperform his price while being a weekly captain option? Or can you underspend this week and get a mills or a dusty type? They're going to be a keeper and after round two you can
00:03:58
Speaker
you can have that sort of 100K banked and look at a better option like Treloar for example.
00:04:03
Speaker
Unless you have an injury or suspension, I don't sideways trade at all. As soon as you do that, you're one step behind everyone else. So I don't make those moves unless the disasters really hit. Obviously, Gorn wasn't that impressive. The other one I had that I thought would be suited to the new rules was Andrew Gaff.
00:04:31
Speaker
but I'm pretty comfortable to ride him for three weeks as well because he's that type he can have a bit of a downer but then he'll just pump out a whole heap of 110s 120s so that's what I expect. I've still got the question mark about the western bulldogs and Bevo is Bevo so let's not forget that.
00:04:50
Speaker
I have got Dunkley, but it was because he was cheap and a forward. But I wouldn't jump on McRae. But I think my information and looking at round one, I thought it was going to be the outside players that were going to get the bump here. But I actually think it's both the inside and outside. So that's why McRae, Bailey Smith types are going to do really well. I think Sam Walsh,
00:05:19
Speaker
He's that type of player as well. I think he's going to go big and I've started with him.
Cash Generation and Mid-Pricers
00:05:25
Speaker
So I'm not using the coin to actually sideways trade and grab someone that I think I've missed. I've made my calls on my premiums. They stay. And what I do now is make cash.
00:05:41
Speaker
And I only started with three mid prices and those three mid prices will be used when I can to go for the breakeven. So a Stevenson will come in this week using a mid price option.
00:05:59
Speaker
Yeah, well, that's interesting points there. And you're saying you're not chasing a McRae even with the sort of a danger field out. You don't want to chase that big high priced premium with, you know, 110 break even, but could perform maybe get that 120 a week like Locky Neal last year.
00:06:18
Speaker
If I had danger and therefore I had a player that was out for three weeks, most definitely, you actually replace them with another premium. Yes. Well, Doss, I don't even think you can pay it from the cray because what we saw around one is a lot of bonafide fantasy guns, massively underperformed week one and they've dropped.
00:06:35
Speaker
30k already, their break evens are 150. We've got data to suggest they're going to probably go back to their 100, 110 ways.
Premium Player Targeting Strategy
00:06:44
Speaker
You can pick them up after around 250, 60k cheaper. That's guaranteed upside right there. Yeah, so you reckon weight as well. I think you and Statesman are on the same page. I might be a little bit behind the curve there. Might have to jump on the advice of Stato and Stato Jr. here in the studio here. Yeah, what have you got to say there, Stato?
00:07:04
Speaker
What I actually look at after each of these early rounds is I actually look at two areas. Those that are building values, so those that are dropped had a shocker that I don't have, so they become targets. So they're the ones, so you look at a Lockheed Neil, there's quite a few others sitting in there. You actually monitor them and watch the drop and see the trend. And once they start to get
00:07:30
Speaker
bottom out in their price. If you're ready to pounce, that's when you pounce. Yeah. So it's about not chasing a score you've already missed, chasing the guy that's going to get that value. And when he's ready to bring those scores for you, hopefully he gets his form back like a lock and he'll maybe an Adam Trelore if he gets those inside minutes. That's when you're going to pounce.
Listener Questions on Trades
00:07:50
Speaker
But Stato, we are here for the people on this pod and the people have responded at Pod Pod AFL on Twitter. We've got plenty of questions to get through. And the major thing that people want to know in this, though, is the statesman's stamp of approval back from a from a previous show that we've had. They want to know if they send through a trade that you very much approve of. Is the statesman stamp back for this show, the Pod Pod?
00:08:18
Speaker
Absolutely, the stodo stamp is back for the pot pot.
00:08:21
Speaker
All right, well, let's hopefully get a few stamps on the show tonight. Now, no doubt there's a few repetitive names here that we're going to go through that'll be mentioned a few times. I do apologize to that, but we do want to answer every single question here. So I'm very much a robot. I'll just read what's put in front of me. So if I read a couple of repetitive questions, I apologize. Stato, just answer quickly and concisely as you always do. This one from Anthony.
00:08:48
Speaker
He's gone row to Stevenson. Would statesman go Jordan Clark to Scholl if the luxury was there?
00:08:56
Speaker
So what I firstly avoid is the red dots. So if you've got a row, you've got danger field, you've got to move straight away, there's no point holding. But I wouldn't move Clark yet. Now, we all picked some Geelong players, I think you did too, Dossie, with the thought that they were just going to go massive against Adelaide. If you look at the preseason game with Port Adelaide, that's what we all assumed was going to happen.
00:09:23
Speaker
But Adelaide was much better, or Geelong was much worse than we thought, maybe it's a bit of both. But at the end of the day, Clark should get an improved role, especially if we got Menegola out as well as Dangerfield. So anything like this, you've got any prices for a reason, you research your ideas, always see if you can give them the two weeks.
00:09:49
Speaker
Yeah, I agree, especially looking at Clark. I rarely do look too deeply into the super coach stats, but Clark on that had 80 compared to his, I think, 50 odd AFL fantasy points. And he's a guy that I think actually.
00:10:04
Speaker
didn't look too bad on the eye test like Geelong were not good in that game and he still managed you know that it's not a great score by any stretch but he didn't look terrible and given they've had a suspension and maybe an injury to a menagola you think that his role hopefully won't be too damaged heading into round two are you a fan o'clock as well Louie heading and holding for one more round oh 100% yeah
00:10:28
Speaker
Got a whole next question from Elijah. What is the best play in replacing both danger and route if you own both? I missed on Stevenson and Goulden but those trades leave me 600k in the bank. Do I chase the value I missed or swap like for like?
Injury Replacements and Cash Focus
00:10:46
Speaker
Danger to dunk? Dusty.
00:10:48
Speaker
Ralph or a Caldwell type so that's sort of what we were talking at the top of the show with when you've lost the danger type Are you really keen to replace that if you've got a solid structure? I guess for a dusty or a Dunkley
00:11:02
Speaker
So what he's losing there is a primo and a mid price. Now, some people would have been thinking that Raoul was to become a premium, potentially keeper. I wasn't convinced that was going to be the case. So I was never going him in the guns and rookies model. And after the preseason game, it probably ticked the box there too. Didn't know what he was going to come back like with the shoulder as well, because I thought tackling was a major thing.
00:11:28
Speaker
I also didn't like inside players with the new model. Once we saw the pre-season it looked like it was going to be faster games so therefore that's why we've got the ruck issue and that's why we've got the inside mid-issue. So my thoughts are here, Gordon is a rookie you need. He is
00:11:49
Speaker
likely to be one of the biggest cash makers and understand I don't mind waiting one week for a rookie when they get named halfway through the season and that way I see if he's going to hold his position and whether he's going to make me cash. So you can just say hey this is what I've done with Errol. I've given him the chance to show us he showed you you should be hopping on that because what we need to do to get a completed team is make cash.
00:12:17
Speaker
So he makes cash and therefore I think you've got to miss out on Stevenson. I don't think Stevenson is a keeper. I don't think he ends up being a top six forward. Be interesting to hear your thoughts, Louis. I think there's a lot of risk, but with
00:12:35
Speaker
potentially Cunnington and we know Anderson's going to be back this week. Once all three of those are in does that mean because they're not getting enough on the scoreboard that they use him up forward more? So I'm thinking and I'm bringing him this week so don't get me wrong I don't think he's a bad target but I'm using him as a stepping stone. Does that make sense? It's not bringing in another premium because I don't have the coin to bring in another premium.
00:13:02
Speaker
So I would suggest that you get golden and then you get someone that you're keeping for the rest of the season. Yeah, so what are your thoughts on Stevenson, Louis?
00:13:15
Speaker
Oh look, I think the planets have aligned for Stevenson so far. I think that role is still volatile. That's why I didn't pick him. Cause I was nervous about that practice game where he did play forward. Um, I think there's, uh, I think he's a good value option and you do take the ride, but, um, yeah, he's certainly not a keeper and we already seen in round one that Western Bulldogs were able to dominate the ball and he comes up against them in round three. So that could be a massive roadblock for his cash generation. Yeah.
00:13:43
Speaker
So that's a good point. It's a good point on Stenson. I think by the sounds of it though, you both are going to ride the wave for a little bit, just given the break even. He's a pass for me, I think. Okay. Yeah. So you're not even going to bite on that. Just given that round three, potentially he could, even the Gold Coast, he might do a good score, but round three, it might end up being a hemorrhage of the, uh, you might have to trade sort of soon after that.
00:14:06
Speaker
Yeah, I'm thinking so. All right. This one comes from David. He's going gorn and broom to Stevenson and Jordan, but that leaves 630K banked and he could get meals instead of Jordan. The question is from Dave here. Cash grab this week with dollars for upgrades when rookies start getting dropped or the premium like Callum Mills this week and less cash for force trades next
Balancing Cash Generation and Team Strength
00:14:35
Speaker
week. Statesman.
00:14:37
Speaker
Yeah, so Jordan's an interesting one. He was on my bench and actually the last player. And I just didn't see scoring potential, but boy, I was wrong there. Boy, I was wrong. My issue is when everyone gets back, and we're talking players like Vani and Co, once they all get back, is he relegated to a bit role? Is he relegated to wearing
00:15:04
Speaker
the tracksuit waiting for a gig in the third quarter. So that's a bit of the question mark with him, but he's also available for cash generation right now. The part I don't really like, because I'm not even considering it myself, is Gawn. Because, God, that's hard to come back from if Gawn ends up being a top two ruck.
00:15:29
Speaker
Yeah. With Jordan, do you reckon the injury to James Harms, I think, what they say, fractured wrist, he did attend some centre bounces as well. Does that sort of alleviate the risk of your viny returning? I sort of got to be careful with this, but I, in a way, a little smile went on my face when we heard that news because it does protect Jordan, first and foremost. But I also thought, well, people have got three players, they've got a
00:15:59
Speaker
sort of look after but then he's only a 3% ownership which was a real surprise to me. So much talk about him in the preseason getting a midfield role as a defender. I actually thought he would be owned quite heavily but it's only 3% so it doesn't impact much of the competition.
00:16:17
Speaker
Yeah, so I think he gets a bit of security. So he's going to give you the five or six weeks we need to really make the coin out of him. So he's worthwhile to bring in. I just wouldn't look at that horn model. Who you go to in the, does that mean the McAvoy is popping in there, I suppose?
00:16:39
Speaker
Well, whoever you go for, go to, you have to back in. Like they, until they're by, they have to be your R1 or R2. So I'm backing in max score in there every day of the week.
00:16:50
Speaker
Yeah, I think we do have to just hold on, but it's hard not being owners, but I mean, we do have a statesman, Saison, you said you are a gorn owner, correct? So, I mean, I think if anyone's going to have the non-biased opinion from a man who actually owns gorn, it's better getting a perspective from that point of view. And statesman, you are saying just hold strong. He's still going to be a top
Holding Players Despite Early Concerns
00:17:12
Speaker
two rock. And I guess that you don't want to be burning a trade for someone that should be in your team at the end of the year is basically where you're at.
00:17:19
Speaker
Where's your point, Louie? Because mine's probably, if I get three rounds of 70 and Hickey's given me three, given three 90s, I'm probably looking at a move.
00:17:31
Speaker
Yeah, I think round three after round three is probably where you start looking at sort of exit stage left on Max Gorn, if he's still going at 70, but I don't think he will. No, I just don't see a scenario. And a lot of crying involved too. And the fact that Max Gorn is able to mark the ball at both ends of the ground, we're seeing that the ball is slinging from defence to forward. I think that sort of bodes well for his scoring as well, whereas a lot of other ruckmen, they sort of get the hit outs, they don't do much else.
00:17:58
Speaker
Yeah, and we saw when Luke Jackson was forward, he was able to do some damaging stuff, and Max Gorn's pretty damaging as a forward himself when he does have to move there, just didn't get the opportunity in that game. And trust me, wet games are going to bring the ruckmen back into, so the longer we get into winter, the closer we are to getting rucks being the premium scorers. Absolutely. And as we saw, you only have to look at someone making their debut, scored 99 on a wet day.
00:18:28
Speaker
Yeah, that the conditions played a massive part in a lot of the scoring this weekend as things go on It'll be interesting how things play out and that's why I really like Grundy as well because he plays like a midfielder He gets those tackles so on a wet day Grundy's gonna go pretty big as long as Darcy Cameron or Mason Cox isn't in his way So basically he's got a lower Sorry a higher floor Grundy's got probably the highest floor out of any of those premium ruckmen because he can get the touches around the ground and when it's a bonus when it's a wet day he can get the hit outs to go with it and
00:18:57
Speaker
Yeah, I think on his day, Grundy's got 10 to 15 more points than Gorn on his ceiling. Yeah, that's a big call, but it's probably something maybe some people were forecasting as well that Grundy was a little down on last year, despite having an amazing average to his name. This one comes from Carla C. Is de Goey for Stevenson worth the trade or is Duggan for Zach Williams a better option? Thanks, guys. Loving the new hashtag Pod Pod. Thanks very much, Carla. Stodo, what do you got for us there?
00:19:27
Speaker
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Dagoi, but I'm also, if you've brought them in, don't base it just on one game. I think it fix up your errors first and foremost, because you might have had Dagoi as your F1 or F2, and you would have considered that, and there would be rationale behind it. I'd stick with it for at least one more week to find out what's gonna go on.
00:19:55
Speaker
in saying that I wasn't a fan at the start, to be honest, and more the injury history than anything else. And you're also getting a midfielder back this week, is that right? Side bottom. So creating a little bit of an issue for his mid-time. Duggan's an interesting pick. I see him as a draft player, not a AFL fantasy player, to be honest. So I don't dislike the Zach Williams pick. All right.
00:20:24
Speaker
Yeah, Duggan only attended two center bounces on the weekend. That's why a lot of coaches actually selected him in the first place. So this isn't a trend. This isn't just him not scoring well, but he had the role. He didn't have the role round one and West Coast are pretty depleted. Xavier O'Neill had nine center bounces. So alarm bells ringing for me. And I think in the West Coast setup, he's only probably one defender injury away from just going back there. So I think I'd jump on Zach Williams.
00:20:50
Speaker
And if he wasn't attending centre bounces, and he still didn't score well in that wide open game, that's alarm bells that he couldn't get you a good score, not even attending centre bounces. Shave the mullet, Dos. Yeah, the mullet's gone. I mean, it was for charity, it was for charity, but gee, it's... And I'll just add to that, Dos, that if you're going to trade out at a Goey or a Duggan because of their prices, I think they're both in the 600s.
Minimizing Trades for Team Stability
00:21:16
Speaker
you actually want to be going to someone that you're not moving for another for the rest of the year unless they get injured so you want to start building your keepers so that's why guns and rookies work because it means up to 12 of your players you're not even touching it's just everyone else you're moving to get your completed team so the more sideways trades you make the less likely you are to get a finished team
00:21:42
Speaker
All right, this one comes from Sam Brown. How long can we ride these rookie rucks and what are the options? I like Draper outside of the top three ruck options. I think he suits the current game style the best. He's mobile, can layer tackle, and has that observable thirst we all love. I think he certainly does. Yeah, Mick Thurston, how was his observable thirst on the weekend? Yeah, okay, that was... I think it was roll dependent on that one. He's still thirsty. He's still thirsty.
00:22:10
Speaker
Yeah. But what do you think on Draper though? Titch has thirst. Rockliffe has thirst. The other guys you mentioned, I'm sorry. All right. So you're not a fan of Draper, I'm guessing from that. What do you do with the rookie ruck options though? And what are the options after these rookie rucks sort of fail us? There's only one option for rookie ruck, isn't there? Is that right, Louis?
00:22:37
Speaker
Yep, you go up to the premium or you chase the guy with the lowest break even to get to that premium. I don't think you can waste too many trades if you go on that rookie R2. That's why you've done it, right? There's only one to select and that's Flynn. He's the only one. All right. This one from Crafty McBeareface. Should our fix up trades focus on rookies, primos, or those mid priced value players? I think we've sort of mentioned this a few times, but stato.
00:23:04
Speaker
Rookies first, mid prices second and that's why I'm doing the mid prices this week because I've got my rookies right. If you've selected Primo's for a reason, let it play out for them. Alrighty, Locky Malks. Does Tom Green deserve another chance or should we sideways trade him to a player with upcoming cash generation, i.e. Jaden Stevenson's Caldwell, Hines, Scholl, etc.
00:23:34
Speaker
So firstly, Tom Green is a great selection in keeper league. Don't think he's too good for the pod yet. And that's where you want him. You want him at your M7 or on your bench in your keeper team. And so therefore, Steve O'Callwell-Hind or Scholl are all really good options, but understanding they are mid prices, they are stepping stones.
00:24:01
Speaker
All right, the next question comes from Will Babus. What's your ruck situation and what are you planning on doing, Stado? I think we mentioned that at the top of the show. You've got Gorny and you're holding strong Gorn and Flynn for now, is that right? Yeah, absolutely nothing. Hopefully not worrying about a thing until I'm considering who I upgrade Flynn to. Just on that too, Stado. Are you going to captain Gorn this week?
00:24:27
Speaker
God, I've thought about it. I'm going VC Sam Walsh, and then I'll work out everything from there. All right, that'd be a big call. I love it though. Matt Mottram, my trades involve Dow, so I have to make them Thursday before teams come out. Worried Flynn doesn't play and Meek is doubtful as backup. What do I do? First of all, you don't trade Dow, right Stado?
00:24:55
Speaker
Well, we always talk about this. There's green dots and there's red dots. And this early in the season, you don't move a green dot unless you got 30 green dots. And can I say, I did see this a little bit on Twitter, where we had row score 84, I think the score was, great performance. And a lot of people had him on the bench and so did I.
00:25:22
Speaker
But you don't chase that. You don't chase that early in the year. You get your structure right, you get your green dots. But I saw plenty of people actually talking about bringing in a red dot player so they could loophole to get the 84.
00:25:36
Speaker
it's not the way to play the game because all of a sudden you're a trade behind because you've collected a red dot and if you collected a red dot for him and you had danger and you had Rao and you had Managola all of a sudden you got four red dots and you're just in fixed city and you're getting further and further and further behind.
00:25:58
Speaker
I actually have to thank Louis for this because I mentioned, I floated that idea to get even a high moors, what was it? 62 or something. And I was like, Oh, what do you, what do you guys, what do you reckon Louis? Should I, should I cash grab, get Nick Murray for, you know, a potential call up next week and dump a Oleg Markov. That conversation did happen. Luckily Louis held me strong for Oleg. Yeah. You can imagine my reaction to that one Stado, I think.
00:26:28
Speaker
Oh, God. Why do we work with him, Louis? If your trades are involving Dow, look, you either take the risk or you don't. You risk the red dot or you go for glory. I think Flynn and Meek will play, but it's a tough decision. All right. This one comes from... Can I just say, Dossie, it's really important to understand that we didn't bring Dow in to be a keeper. We brought him in to make money.
00:26:54
Speaker
He's making us money. Still making us money. Letting us make his coin. Yep. Yep. He's an uber rookie. Yep. He's got a low break even still and and I mean he should be named have we the team's out now. I'm guessing he's Ford, Ford flank though mate. Williams in the guts. Oh I wish he wasn't named to look at your face right now. He'll still get rotations through don't you worry about that. I was ready with a song if he wasn't named.
00:27:18
Speaker
Let's be honest though, I don't think they'd name Dow in the team if he wasn't going to have that rotation because if we've seen what he can do as a forward and he's not that valuable as a forward, so they're going to use him in centre bounce rotations, you'd imagine if he's in the team. It's not that valuable as a midfielder either. It's a tough one. They've got lots of young midfielders in the twos as well. That's enough, Patti Dow slander. The next question is to do with Patti
Player Evaluation for Future Value
00:27:41
Speaker
Dow as well. Whenever Patti Dow gets mentioned again, you know what I'm going to say from here on in? Oh, here we go. Yeah.
00:27:49
Speaker
Do we hold down? So, yeah is the answer there. Do we hold down and play the break even game or move on to a rookie like Jordan, we have missed. Just hold him. Hold down. All right. This one from, this one from Joe blog in AFL fantasy, Caldwell plus 100,000 or Stevenson plus 100 K or Zach Williams. So another one of those few similar names here. I think the next question is related to that as well. One's a keeper Zach Williams.
00:28:17
Speaker
Stato Agree with Stato Junior. Yeah, Zach Williams is the keeper.
00:28:23
Speaker
Perfect, this one from James, might just interview Stado Jr. for the rest of the pod here, Stado. James asks, danger and row for Stevenson and either Caldwell plus cash or Tom Mitchell. Is that the similar thing you've got your caper there with Tom Mitchell? Is that the one we're going with or we go on value for Stevenson?
00:28:47
Speaker
I haven't seen Mitchell's game yet, but I'm told he got a lot of the peel. So you think he's going to be around that top eight mark. And if that's the case, then it's Mitchell bag him early. I think he's, from my memory, he was decent value. So he was certainly one of my first drafts until we heard he was going to miss a part of the early season. So I think he's value.
00:29:12
Speaker
And I'm pretty sure I was watching the game and like I've mentioned on the podcast the other night, I'm certain he started on the bench for the first 10 minutes of the game as well. They were just easing him in. He's a guy that previously in his brown low season played 90% time on grand in a 20 minute quarter match. He's one of those guys that you just leave out there and get him to work. Plus he attends almost all the center bounces.
00:29:37
Speaker
He was down at about 80% for center bounces and 80% for time on ground, easing him back in and he still dropped 108. But it's a pretty easy opposition as well in Essendon in a high scoring game. So that'll be easy to interesting to see how that plays out. Ninja spoon. Do we look to mid price guys or stash cash and wait for fallen premiums? No stepping stones as a rule.
00:30:02
Speaker
Now I use stepping stones. It's all about the rookies. I've only got three mid prices in my whole team. Everything else is Primo and Rooks. And the reason why I still always have a few mid prices is the first five to six weeks while the rookies are building the cash, I have something I can move. So you get two trades every single week.
00:30:27
Speaker
in this game. So I utilise them to bank as much cash. So make as much points and bank as much cash. So as soon as one of the mid prices starts to turn or has a bad week loses cash gen, I move it to the next. So that's why I'm playing the break even game week in week out.
00:30:47
Speaker
I'm feeling awfully comfortable with danger to mills and meeks or other rookies to row, says Punchy. Haven't changed this since Monday, yet it seems like everyone is chasing value, e.g. Hind, Caldwell Stevenson. Should I just stick with the more traditional fix up moves or chase mid price value? So who's he moving on, Louis? Meek.
00:31:15
Speaker
or other rookies, but 170K rookie, you'd think. Yeah, I'd be going to get all your rookies right first, then use the mid prices for stepping stones. I'd do the same. Find the way to make the most cash possible. There'll be guys that pop in round two as well. And then Titch or Zach Williams, who would be preferred from Alex Thornhill? Titch.
00:31:41
Speaker
All right. Roll in the boat. Old man leg, Oleg Markov. I'm guessing. Marks were a huge contributor to his score. Where do you think his average goes over the next five rounds? Did you manage to catch that game? And what do you reckon on Oleg? It was a high mark game. Does he maintain that? I mean, he can't maintain 108, whatever he scored, but can he score as an 80 on a week to week basis?
00:32:10
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's more of an averaging around a 70 mark, to be honest. OK, fair enough. That's still going to make us plenty of cash. Yep. H, long sleeve energy. How long should you hold underperforming premiums? I guess the guys like your Max Gorns are in this category or a locky kneel. How long should we hold these underperforming premiums? I'm three weeks. What about you, Louis? Yeah, three weeks. You got two weeks of data then.
00:32:38
Speaker
Perfect. This one from Darren V. How would you rank Scholl, Caldwell, Stevenson and Markov? I'll let Stato Jr. Louis go first, then I'll let the statesman Senia go. Okay, I'd probably go Stevenson, Caldwell, Scholl, Markov. Interchange those last two, I think. Throw a blanket over them. Senia?
00:33:02
Speaker
Yeah, I'll go break even, so therefore it is Stevenson for the forward line and Markov for the defence first and foremost, depending on what position play you need to do.
00:33:16
Speaker
All right, this one from stem Sam Hill, another Stevenson question, but he's got a third name to throw in. So, he's got Stevenson, Caldwell. Just quickly, are you guys both Stevenson over Caldwell, Louie? Yeah. And Stata? Yeah. Okay. Well, we've got a third name to throw in from Sam Hill. He's got Chera in there as well. So, we've obviously got a bit of extra cash floating around. Would you go Chera over both Stevenson and Caldwell?
00:33:42
Speaker
What's his break even, Doss? Yeah, you have to get that up for me, Louis. But while we get that up, we'll go on to another question. Jared Trainer asks, Will Brody, with a little X for a kiss for you there, Stado, I think as well. What do you think on Will Brody? Will Brody, no. Your boy might be back this week. Oh, fair any, yes, for the matter of hours. He might be back. He won't be. He won't be. So you want to train in the keeper league if he is?
00:34:13
Speaker
Oh, I'd absolutely want him back. Yeah, he needs to be on the squad. He belongs at home. So just on chair, he's got the 79 breakeven. So if you're really keen on him, he had the most center bounces for the Dockers of the midfielders on the weekend. But I'd probably avoid that breakeven and chases Stevenson or Caldwell.
00:34:31
Speaker
It's just a long way away from a top eight mid. So Stevenson has the potential to shock us and end up being a top six forward, but I just don't see Chera being a top eight mid. Dossie, if you've got extra cash, I actually really like Noah Anderson at 550K as a sideways option, if you're going to consider that.
00:34:57
Speaker
Yeah, well, that's an interesting option. I mean, he did have a bit of CBAs and he's talking about the options like you're saying Statesman earlier in terms of who are the big winners of the new rules. It's those guys that play inside and outside. Noah Anderson's probably one of those guys, maybe a bit young to take, well, I mean, we've seen a lot of second year players take the big leap. Do you like Noah Anderson, especially at that very cheap price?
00:35:24
Speaker
Yeah, I understand the theory, but I probably wouldn't go there myself. But in saying that, when you talk about the inside and outside, probably Chara fits into that model. So maybe he's one we should be watching a bit closer. So it's an interesting call when you think about it that way.
00:35:40
Speaker
There's two guys there. I mean, even you could just monitor them over the next couple of weeks. They're still going to be very cheap in a week or two if they do start popping, but once to monitor. Militime asks Mr. Number 5 from last year, cut to goy. And he said that's a rhetorical question. He's cut. So he's getting ready to goy. Wow.
00:35:58
Speaker
He's a cap wearer like yourself, Staceman, and he doesn't mind showing that, too. He doesn't mind showing his number five cap around town. But what do you reckon hold Dagoi here on the camp? I think we're all in the same camp. If you need to hold him one more week, he's got a pretty nice matchup. We saw what Dusty did. If Dagoi is Dusty Light, ultra light by the looks, he should at least get us maybe an 80 to 90 and hopefully higher if he actually pops.
00:36:25
Speaker
Well, Dossie, we picked him for the midfield role and we saw that on the weekend. He didn't have the scoring, but he didn't have the CBA's we wanted away. I'm not sure. I think he only had the nine centre bounces though. I think we were hoping for, you know, Yeah, but the pies, the pies were dominated by, by the dog. So I think they were looking for a bit of forward press, a bit of forward momentum. And he was a victim of that, which is something to flag going into the future. But I think the role is there, at least for now.
00:36:54
Speaker
Agreed, I'm in the same camp as you guys. Just being the devil's advocate there, guys, for you guys. Cutting Dow versus de Goey is our last question here from Lex Turnbull. Cutting Dow versus de Goey is if that's your only two options, I guess.
00:37:09
Speaker
Uh, Dow. Yeah. They're holding the potential, uh, potential top six forward. I'm just going to check if we have any late questions here. No, we're all set. We're all good guys. Uh, and we are at pod pod AFL for those Twitter questions. Statesman you can find at Statesman 33. Now, Louie, I do want to ask you though, you've got the great man here. Is there any final little questions you want to ask from your own perspective, your own selfish fantasy perspective that you want to ask the great man before we let him go?
00:37:38
Speaker
Okay, selfishly, I'll ask the great man. I'm someone, unfortunately, that got hit with the Matt Rau and the Patrick Dangerfield suspension and injury. So right now, I'm looking at going to sideways on a premium and sideways on probably someone who's going to be making cash like your high end Stevenson, Coldwell, what have you. So do you think the best way to look at it, Stata, was that you have to go to another keeper. You can't just,
00:38:08
Speaker
split it both ways is what I'm saying.
00:38:13
Speaker
The two people you're taking out to me is one primo in the forward line and one mid pricer in the midfield. So I feel comfortable that you're actually replacing because you're keeping the structure you had.
Managing Forced Trades
00:38:24
Speaker
The issue you end up having, and this is all luck thing, that you actually end up being the way behind in the proactive moves against the other coaches that are switched on.
00:38:39
Speaker
So the ones that won't end up in the top 100 are actually just doing sideways moves this week. A four sideways is completely different. You need to do it. You can't have danger field sitting on your bench. So I'd feel quite comfortable that you're actually going to go to one premium and then one mid price that's going to make your cash or play the breakeven game.
00:39:02
Speaker
Beautiful. Thanks for putting me on the spot there, Dost. Well, I've got my own selfish one as well. Dangerfield and Tana Bruin, who failed me last week, Stado, for Jack McRae and any 170K rookie. You're saying avoid Jack McRae and chase a bit of value, or can I go and ride the McRae train? No, no, no. That's fine, mate. No, no. What I was saying, it's not about avoiding Jack McRae. I just wasn't going to move any of the ones I decided were my primos to Jack McRae because of the sideways move.
00:39:31
Speaker
You're forced into it. It's a great opportunity. Tana Bruin was a bad pick to start with, mate, but don't get me started on that. You've got a history of those. That's okay. But correcting it by picking an elite premium and someone's going to make your cash is ticks in the box, mate.
00:39:53
Speaker
Yeah, so I think a really bad move would be sort of going to Goey down to Stevenson and then going someone you think is a keeper like your Tim Taranto up to Jackson McRae. You're gaining nothing. You're basically taking two steps forward just to take one step back.
00:40:09
Speaker
Yeah, that makes sense. So the two sort of variables, you've got to trade, you've got to trade danger. He's a guy that's already in your structure. I'm just basically manipulating my structure, chucking an extra premium midfielder on field and backing in a forward rookie, which we've actually had a couple of
Team Structure with Limited Funds
00:40:24
Speaker
decent ones. It basically just requires me to get one 170K guy named for this week that I'm semi-confident for job security, which may be. Oh, that's the only coin you've got. Is that what you're saying?
00:40:38
Speaker
Yeah, that is the only coin. Yep. Eli Smith, come through for me, baby. Anyway, stay a bit risky, but any final nuggets of wisdom heading into round two from a man who's been there plenty of times? Yeah, Toronto to be a top six forward.
00:40:58
Speaker
All right, there you have it.
Final Expert Advice and Conclusion
00:41:00
Speaker
Taranto, top six forward. Well, Statesman, we appreciate your time very much. Thanks for joining us on the Point of Difference podcast, and good luck for the fantasy season yourself. Yeah, same to you both. Good on you, Slatter.