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66. I know what you did last summer (TV); Twilight; Halloween 78
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Jim’s cranky and Brannyk goes on a 20 minute ‘trunk or treat’ rant as we both try to avoid the dog crap that was our solo picks (IKWYDLS TV version) and Twillight. We end with Halloween 78, one of the OG ‘modern’ slasher flicks that start a lot of balls (and heads) rolling. All this and more (ok, mostly Brannyk’s trunk or treat rant) on the next Streamin’ Demons. ///SPONSOR/// Zencastr.com Like our podcast and want to join the fun? Maybe you hate us and think you can do better? Well, boy do I have a deal for you! Use […]
Transcript
Introduction and Horror Movie Topics
00:00:01
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Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here, and boy am I tired. I'm tired. Today we've got, I know, flu and COVID vaccine same time. Today we got, I know what you did last summer. Eh, eh, eh. The TV shows, don't get excited. And then Twilight, the movie, so don't get excited. And then Halloween, 78, get your ass excited for that. All this and mole on next stream of demons, hit it.
00:00:34
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They were doing a lot. I live in Montreal area and they were doing like alarms. Are you going to do the alarms to this? It was like the SOS alarms, like making sure they're civil defense alarms workers about that. In every store, you're hit and miss. And my tinnitus is so bad. I didn't know it was just my tinnitus. Because I didn't stop after the alarm was done.
00:01:04
Speaker
You just kept going.
Banter and October Movie Challenge
00:01:05
Speaker
Yeah, that's how people start looking around. Oh, hey. Hey, kids. All right. Today's treatment demons. Hi, I'm Jim Phoenix. I'm with my co-host J.M. Brinek. Say hi or something. Hi. Your shirt says be kind. No, no, no. It's in the mirror. It says King maybe. Oh, my apologies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:31
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So today we've got a brand new episode and we are doing a tag team on one of them and we're going to hit it up with another thing. And we don't have a special guest, so we're just going to riff back and forth. That usually means I'm very worried about about Branek's choice on this because I'm worried about yours. Oh, I.
00:01:54
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So I've been trying to watch the 31 movies for October, you know, like 31. I know. And I was stupid enough to think like, oh, I can write little mini reviews for each one. I've written like six. That's not bad. And I've watched about 15 movies, so I'm a bit behind, but I'm still there.
00:02:22
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And so don't get yourself down. You're a big behind. Thank you. Yeah, thank you.
Twilight Discussion
00:02:30
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So I watched Twilight the other night. What was the way you wanted to do? Because is this in something else, right? Oh, well, I started watching it, which it's equally kind of as bad, but it's the case of the Whitechapel vampire.
00:02:51
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with, uh, okay. Well, really bad bread. I've been watching a lot of Sherlock Holmes, the old BBC series, um, like the black and white. There's black and whites. There's colors. There's you can mix them together. A lot more blood. A lot more. They solve the case of Jack the ripper, which what the shit good for them. That looks like the basil ones, right? It's not the fucking Brett.
00:03:19
Speaker
Oh, I've watched some of the basil ones. No, no, no. Like the ones with the blood is with basil. Oh, those were like more hammer, but I have watched a few of those. Um, Tom Baker ones. Dr. Sherlock Holmes. Um, well, I'm in preparation. I'm going to be traveling eventually and it'll be fun. And so I'm getting in the spooky, uh, England haunted
00:03:50
Speaker
spirit except i uh not with twilight i didn't okay so i've why was this how old was talked i was talked kind of into it because one of the actors from good omens is in it it was a fucking bet one of the actors in good omens is in twilight yes which which one michael sheen michael sheen isn't twilight did he lose a fucking bet
00:04:16
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He's had a lot of interesting roles throughout his career. I just wanted to see him as a Gothic vampire and apparently it's going to be a lot longer than I thought it was going to be. I went into Twilight with an open mind. I was never into Twilight and fine. People like it.
00:04:44
Speaker
I'm glad that they had a book series to be interested in. I'm glad that people are reading. You know, there's a lot of books that are fucking awful. You know what book's not fucking awful? Surviving Gen X. That's what I was going to try to like preorder now. Brought to you by Liquid Ivy.
00:05:08
Speaker
Uh, so I went into open minds, like, okay, maybe, honestly, maybe after years of all this, you know, it's going to be maybe a good movie, you know, because both, um, Robert Patterson and Kristen Stewart are good actors. That's not how it works. You know that because it became better actors after the movie, it doesn't make the movie all suddenly better in retrospect. I didn't know I was young and naive. You know, they're good actors now. I was.
00:05:39
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given it the old college try. And so it was definitely a movie of its time. It also made really not a lot of sense to me. And it was hilarious. I was dying. It was so funny.
00:06:01
Speaker
It is I you know what I'll try because I saw a bit of Twilight. I saw the first like 15 minutes when that one girl rescues the other girl from that car. And like, you know, I think it's Bella. What's her name? Is her name Bella? Yeah. And then I was about to hit by a car and the other girl kind of like, it's not a girl.
00:06:22
Speaker
That's a boy. It's Robert. It's Robert. Okay. So it felt really a lot like two gay teens. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen to me. Two gay teens, one male, one female, Romeo and Juliet.
00:06:42
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and trying to be straight together. It really felt like that to me because the chemistry was, and the pacing and the writing and the dialogue were all gobbled. Eventually. They were having a relationship during the movie. Afterwards. It wasn't during the movies.
Comedic Interlude with 'Tara Reid'
00:07:08
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It was afterwards. Oh, I got them hot. Oh, look at our shitty fucking plastic after.
00:07:12
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Apparently. And I feel so bad for Kristen Stewart because she was given the weirdest directions. I can only, her mouth was like always open and doing things. It was like her mouth, her lips were possessed. Can I see your version of that fucking movie? Her mouth was always doing things. It's just like,
00:07:38
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Yeah. Oh, I get it. No. Yeah. No. Hands actually kind of sexy right now. And like I said, it was just him running so fast. It looks so funny. And I was like, Oh my God, this is genius because
00:08:02
Speaker
15 years from now, a new generation is going to find this and be like, holy cow, these are a wolf. These are a big wolf. And they're going to just absolutely crack themselves up over this. Were you team Edward or team, what was it, Jake? Paul? Ryan Paul? Is that Ron Paul? Rand Paul?
00:08:28
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Yes, Ron Paul was in this movie as the other love interest, yes.
00:08:36
Speaker
No, no, no, no. As wolf boy. As wolf boy. You had this around the same time, true blood and true blood, they were straight fucking. And so I'm like, oh, that's just like not true blood at all. Like, no. Like I said, just them, it was like trying to have a romance and just smooshing it together.
00:08:59
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It didn't really work. Um, I actually liked her and her dad and her dad. Okay. So I'm going to ship this. I found the true romance of this story. Her dad and his friend who is what's his face is dad, the leader of the wolf pack. They have such chemistry and it's so, they're so cute together. And I'm like, I just want a dad, like a dad and a werewolf.
00:09:30
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love story. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Fuck. You know what? I think it's a murder. Oh, it's Tara. It is actually Tara Reed. She's celebrity bootcamp. She's calling in.
Promotions and Personal Projects
00:09:43
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I think she's still, you know, I just want, yeah, I want to talk to her all about that celebrity bootcamp. So we'll get to the twilight in a second, but go on Tara. You're on her air with J.M. Brannock and Jim Phoenix. How are you doing?
00:09:56
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Well, you know, I just wanted to call in and say, I heard you guys talking about that sexy werewolf boy and werewolf dad. Oh, yeah. You know, I don't think this is terrible. So what's your question? You have a sexy werewolf dad and boy. Yeah. But you know what? I think you really need something like sexy Bigfoot. I think that's what they really need. No, Bigfoot's gross. We don't like Bigfoot.
00:10:29
Speaker
He smells like ass. He smells like ass. He smells a lot of ass. Just as anyone. I don't know. I don't think this is Tara Reid at all. She's much classier. Oh, fuck her. I know. Yeah, I told you. God damn it. God damn it. Even Bobby Booey does. He did.
00:10:53
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00:11:21
Speaker
I want you to have the same easy experiences I do for all my podcasting and content needs. It's time to share your story. Your voice is getting higher and higher with each. I couldn't break the fucking ad. No, you couldn't. Take a breath. I know we have to say that shit, but. Yeah, you got to take a breath. You know what? Young kids would also be good to. They would be good to go back into the past, say in.
00:11:50
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No, I was going to plug your book again. Oh, Gen X surviving Gen X. Yes, they should go there. And you can learn all about Baba Booey Baba Booey. Ari Lang's in a book. Surviving Gen X. He made the book. I think so. The Howard Stern show.
Review of 'I Know What You Did Last Summer'
00:12:14
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Thanks.
00:12:15
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He makes a book because of that. Yeah. I mean, how are you like? Good. So it's not bad. Why like this? Well, no. And going back to because again, this is like all generational. And like I said, the next generation, I think there's going to this generation like Twilight like tweens at the time. So like, I guess shitty little millennials. Like, hey, dude, I'm an old millennial.
00:12:42
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So probably younger millennials right into that, you know, generation tail end, tail end. So the next generation is going to find it and be like, what the hell is this? And they're going to, I think they're going to like it. Cause it is, it is wild. It is a wild ride. It's me fucking roller gator for someone. This is absolutely going to be a roller gator to somebody.
00:13:10
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The Batman sparkles. It's the litmus. Yes. A litmus test. Okay. So what I'm going to give it, I'm actually going to give this a three. A three. Yes. Because again, I was entertained through the whole thing because like, you know, I had a bag of popcorn. I had a glass of wine. I was having a fun time because it was ridiculous.
00:13:41
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But again, you know, if you like it, that's fine. But I think people now can look at back to it and say, Oh, that movie was whoo. Yeah, that was a movie. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, why?
00:14:00
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I did have a friend who was, I think I told the story before maybe, but he was in the sequels. He even makes the movie poster and they cut him in post like exactly on the fucking poster. He's like on the fucking poster. Like, so who's that guy? I don't know. He probably has a fucking action figure, but they don't like it. That guy never made the guy that movie. He made the action figure and put him in the poster, but he's got zero screen time. He probably is. They probably love you. Yeah.
00:14:29
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And so I'm thinking like it launched a lot of careers and also just kind of like randomly cut people out for no fucking reason. Like they played a goddamn basketball or baseball game. Is that the one that played the baseball game? Yep. Yep. I know like limited things. Again, it was like, like two thirds of the movie, nothing happens. And then that final third of the movie, everything happens. And I was just laughing because of the pacing. It was just,
00:14:57
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It was so funny. The stakes got so high, so fast. Stakes, get it? Stakes. So you think this has a director cut somewhere? You know, I don't think I'd want to watch it. I think I'm good with this.
00:15:23
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This fucking Snyder cut it's gonna make me fall asleep every time I watch it you watch that Snyder cut I Tried I tried three times and I fell asleep each time and I said, you know what? I ain't it's my body isn't built for this. I
00:15:39
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That was me and Batman with Rob Harrison. I fell asleep every time I tried watching. I can't... Apparently, there's more than one villain. I had no idea. Okay, so it was... You gave it a three? Yeah, I gave it a three. Fuck, okay, I can't. I mean, it's camp. It's fun. Well, you know what's not camp or fun?
00:15:59
Speaker
I know what you did last summer. Oh, not the movie, not the movie where I remember taking a date to in Las Vegas and the Coca-Cola Cineplex thing down the bowl of Sunset Strip. My God. No, down the strip. And it was an awesome date. And did you get lucky? I'm always lucky with that person. Not in the way you probably think. OK, it was a good time. It was a good time. It was very nice. So you could you can say that that movie
00:16:32
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It actually, that movie had some kind of impact. I still remember it. I still remember. The movie is probably shit, but I remember going to it. I think I remember the experience of the movie. And so after just kind of deciding what I want to talk about, I couldn't remember the movie I watched this week. It was just beginning, by the way.
00:16:52
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I'm like, oh, talk about that movie. What movie? What was it called? I don't remember until we started the show. I'm like, oh, fuck, just beginning. And skip it. I don't know. It's a Blumhouse. It's whatever. But I saw I know what you did last summer
Horror Reboots and Their Merits
00:17:09
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being pushed on Amazon. I'm like, oh, my God, is this like the old one? Like they remade the thing was a TV show.
00:17:16
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I watched the first episode and I have to say it's, it takes place in Hawaii, Hawaii. And they're, the poster looks like they're like, we're recasting this for ethnicity. We gotta get some Latino and we'll get some like Asians in there. We'll get some, I don't know. It's like a blanket. I don't know. Some like one white kid for token. I don't know.
00:17:41
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And I'm like, oh my God, like Amazon really forced this issue pretty hard. And then I realized, holy shit, it's in Hawaii. So this must be like a native Hawaiian cast. No, no, no. No one talks like they're fucking from Hawaii. You got some blonde girl walking around. No one, no one's calling her holly girl. No one's saying no, nothing. None of the terminology is there. None of the chemistry that you actually
00:18:08
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See in Hawaii. Might as well be just fucking shot in Ohio. It probably was, to be honest. I might as well look that up. But so it was kind of like, OK. And then maybe it was a covid shot and the flu shot. But I couldn't tell the two white girls apart for a while. Like, oh, a blonde white girl for another blonde white girl. That's probably why they have a diverse cast.
00:18:34
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two white girls apart. And she's the main character. She's the protagonist. The protagonist. We're like, oh, we're making a Hawaii. Who should be the protagonist? One of the little white girl. Look at the white girl.
00:18:47
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Don't call her Hallie. No, don't call her Hallie because people might think that this is really Hawaii. Like I didn't even see the body hunter. That's how depressing it was. I'm like, maybe the body hunter will be less like he'll make an appearance like he hunts them down because he knows what they did last summer. Maybe that's a twist. It's him. That would be great. I found you fuckers. My paint gun. I'm going to I'm going to shoot paint pellets at you. That's what the body hunters do there.
00:19:14
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So it turns out, I believe, I believe that halfway through the episode, I realized that there were sisters or twins. That's what it looked like. Because I felt like, did she just go crazy? She's just talking to herself now, like in the mirror, but once wearing a necklace, no, it was not like this, like have friends because she's talking like, like bad about each other. I'm like, man, I don't really see.
00:19:41
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I think they're just fucking friends. Now, are they really sisters in real life, though? I'm trying to look to see if she has. Another role here, because it just says Madison Nisman as Alison, but doesn't say like the other person's name. And honestly, God, maybe she's only one actress. Yeah, it might be. It might be. That's that's how good the movie or the TV show is actually to give a fuck enough to look it up.
00:20:11
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Like, oh, so we took this really moment stealing, you know, the zeitgeist type genics. I know what you did last summer movie when we turned it into like this teeny bop limited series on Amazon, who I hope it doesn't get fucking renewed because I'll be depressed. Yeah, she plays both roles. She pulls both roles. Okay. Lennon and Allison. Great. The camerawork sucks ass because it looks like she played both roles.
00:20:40
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But I mean, that's what she looks so fucking just alike. But why is it the old looks like we were this Star Trek and they Kirk Minx, Kirk and Spock Minx. It's like a whole mirror universe bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what it is. But I think television has comes over since the last 40 years.
00:21:02
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or actually 60 years, I think they could have like maybe did something with effects, or even just a generated AI. I'm not sure. But they didn't. It's boring. It goes nowhere. Apparently, all they do is club and drink and party as the graduation day. Spoiler alert. This is the last time that the shirt off. It don't matter. It don't matter. I think a lot of shows are kind of
00:21:29
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you know, they're doing reboots and I don't completely understand why I didn't see the Hellraiser one. I did see part of the Chucky one, which I actually did like. So you like part of the Chucky one? Okay. Yeah. You've not seen the Hellraiser one? No, I haven't. I can't get it without renting it, so I'm not going to. So, but Chucky is decent then. I liked it because one of the main things is that
00:21:58
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The main character is a gay boy and it's not only about his sexuality, but it's about his family dynamics. And that's how kind of Chuckie gets his in is because he's like, you know, I can mentor you. And, um, and no, I don't know why he's doing both.
00:22:24
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But it was it was very interesting and very sweet. And it was kind of nice to see, you know, him come into his own. He has a crush on this one kid that's a podcaster. And it was just it was cute. So I have to watch more of it. I didn't watch all of it. But you know, I liked what they were doing.
00:22:46
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We're talking first, we talked about the other movie and so Twilight. Now we're talking about talking instead of I know we did last summer. Yeah, these things really are. You gave Twilight a three. I because it's funny. Let's tell you what, guys, do not watch. I know we did last summer. The movie or the TV show watched a movie instead. It won an award. So Fangor, I'm so sorry. I've lost all fucking. I don't know if I had any respect for you, but I lost anything I left.
00:23:15
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I was a nominee. Oh, sorry. It was a nominee for a chainsaw. It actually won the reframe. What the fuck's the reframe award? Fuck off. That's what the award is. Fuckoff.com. I'm looking at myself to the D frame award. I'm looking at the cast. Go for it. It does have Brann, and I'm probably saying this wrong, Choo. T-J-U. She was in Scream, the MTV series.
00:23:44
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And she was in, um, 47 meters down on caged, which I did see. Yeah. I, uh, I dunno, they're not good on this one. Honestly, so much of, so much of it comes down to writing and directing, you know, you have to have a good solid script and you have to have a director that
00:24:12
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basically has a vision of that script. And that's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. And, you know, again, we're seeing a lot of reboots and we're going to keep seeing a lot of reboots, you know, it's just the way of things. And honestly, in horror, that's always kind of been the case. Like, you know, you had Omega Man, you had Omega Man, Omega Man, Omega Man.
00:24:40
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Omega Man, and then what was it? Last Man Alive? Last Man on Earth. And then the Will Smith one. Nope. Not talking about Will Smith, but this was actually was film in Hawaii. So that's good. Oh, it was. Yeah. Yeah, that's sad. Yeah. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm giving this a two. Okay. Honestly, maybe it gets better. Maybe it doesn't.
00:25:07
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That's right. I didn't care if I should have bought any of the characters. I don't care about their teenage angst. Like a bunch of rich white kids in Hawaii don't give a fuck about. Sorry. What? You don't. Yeah, you can't. You can't because like five point four out of ten. That's actually probably too fair. They're not your every man. Not unless you do a bunch of coke through a fucking sniffer and then somehow kill your sister.
00:25:35
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And I don't know how to fix her sister like walking down in the middle of a road at dark. They're at the same goddamn party or some shit. I wasn't paying attention. They're like, oh, it's probably her sister's probably dead. I don't know. Her sister don't know. Well, actually, I don't know. One of them switched out. They're fucking playing twinsies on us or some shit. I spoke about this way too much. I'm doing it at one point five. One point five.
00:26:02
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The more you talk about it, the more you're going to put it down. The more like watching the like the fucking preview on loop. I'm like, oh, this sucks ass. But you know what doesn't suck ass? Halloween. Liquid IV. Oh, no, we're not doing that plug for them today. Oh, OK. Zencaster. Zencaster doesn't suck ass, but Halloween. Halloween. Seventy eight. One of the very first ones. Well,
00:26:30
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It is the very first one. I couldn't remember if it was that or Friday the 13th. I wasn't sure. It was either one of the horror movie things. Yeah, one of the first slashers. And like 80 something. Regardless, it's a pioneer. It's a pioneer to go. There's a pioneer and it is the reason why Jamie Lee Curtis wins an Academy Award.
00:27:00
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Honestly, I love Jamie Lee Curtis. She's. We're going to pretend like it is. Oh, it was not like, well, is it everything everywhere at once? You think she wants to deserve a war for that? Fuck no. She wanted because. Well, she thanked the horror community. God damn right. Because even she knows that's the reason why she wanted not to fuck the shit that she did for Netflix. Well, it's a lot of people like that movie.
John Carpenter's Influence on Horror
00:27:30
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A lot of people like things like liquid. I don't want to drink my liquid IV. Yeah, why don't you do that? You're sick and delirious. I'm grumpy. You are grumpy. Where's Chuck? Where's Chuck to put a smile on your face? Yeah, you know what I think about that? Who cares? Well, you know what? You're wearing a shirt that says be kind. Be kind to yourself.
00:27:59
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Yes. And grandma's cookies. Um, Halloween. Yeah. I actually didn't watch this for a very, very long time because I was afraid to. Why were you afraid? Because I hated horror movies and like growing up, this was like one of them. Cause you always saw Michael Myers and woo in his cool jumpsuit. Now you're making me,
00:28:28
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It's Michael Myers. Yeah. Michael Myers. You're making me, it's too late for this, Jim. That's why you saved me, Austin Powers, Michael Myers. Yes. I was very afraid of him. You're afraid of Michael Myers. Well, who? Yes. Director. I see that. But I didn't realize because I had known Jamie Lee Curtis from other films at the time that I didn't know that this was like her big breakout role and
00:28:58
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Honestly, the second one is really, really good too. But it's just such an iconic role. And she plays, she always plays such strong characters, no matter what she's in. I'm trying to think if she ever played the weak. She's not always a heroine, but she's always some sort of... Well, which movie is she not a heroine? She was in Terror Train. I guess Prom Night, maybe.
00:29:29
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Trading places? I think Eddie Murphy's the heroine in that one. But it's a hooker in it, but a hooker with a heart. Of gold. It's called Wanda. I think that's still a hooker with a heart, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was in Knives Out, too. Oh, you're right. She wasn't a good person in Knives Out. Spoilers. Jeez. I mean, that was part of her character.
00:29:59
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Uh huh. Part of the character. Anyway, Halloween. We're talking about Halloween. Halloween. Halloween. The kills were really good. They were very scary. They I mean, the music was great. The music. Simple as fuck, by the way. But worthy. Yeah, his music is just incredible. Yeah. Oh, I agree. It makes the movies.
00:30:28
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Oh, it absolutely does. And, you know, I've talked about it before of like how much the music really adds to like anything, but especially horror movies that can make her break a movie. And it should break them all. Break all the movies. You know what could also make him break a movie? What? I was going to go with Tara Reade.
00:30:58
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Oh, he's not terror. This is a good move. Why is not terror reading this? Oh, Donald Pleasances, though. And I love Donald Pleasance, but you need some terror reads. She's too young. Oh, fine. Whatever. I got kids in this movie, too. I got kids in this movie. They got Sandy Johnson's and Arthur Melitz and John Michael Graham's and Kyle Richards and Nancy Stephens and Brian Andrews. I'm just reading names off P.J. Souls. Why are you just reading names off?
00:31:28
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Oh, I don't know. So, yeah. I guess I could be part of my plug too. John Carpenter is an amazing composer. He still writes music and still does.
00:31:47
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And actually, his grandson was the one who kind of pushed him to release some studio albums. He released one in 2015 and 2016, 2017 and 2021. I do have Lost... No, I think that's great. I do have The Lost Themes, which is the album that he composed, but he also composed
00:32:16
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Halloween 3, which I know a lot of people don't like right now, although people are warming up to it. But I have that soundtrack and that's really good.
00:32:30
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It was about Halloween. It takes place on Halloween. Well, that was what it was supposed to do. That was what it was supposed to be. He wanted it in an anthology. So each Halloween he would have a, it was basically like, what is the American horror story? That's what he was trying to do. But everybody hated it. So he had to stop. No, no robots, turning children into snakes and bugs. No.
00:32:59
Speaker
Where's my where's my where's your kazoo? Okay, I'm just I don't know kazoo areas baby crying don't do this love Bigfoot This this episode, you know, you didn't even say in the beginning like oh, you know if you're new to this it's something we you know, we do together but but but We're just old cranky people today
00:33:29
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day we're old and cranky people and we are but you know what okay I didn't mind season of the witch I actually do like Halloween 3 as its own movie I don't think it's part of the Halloween franchise but it obviously it's not anymore but I liked it because I
00:33:50
Speaker
I grew up in areas like that. And that was very much a stranger danger thing. That was a glass shards in your took a treat bag. That was the B.S. people like pouring acid out and whatever the hell it was back then. Like Gen Z, you guys have a fucking kush. I'm sorry. Fucking helmets and all sorts of bullshit. Your food will randomly kill you.
00:34:17
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Yes, you do sound like an old man now, Tylenol. And you walked, you walked in the snow uphill. Shit. We had like, uh, God damn, our Tylenol was poison. It was. It was capsules. And, and nobody was found. Nobody was found about that. It's an unsolved murder. Yeah. Motherfuckers just take like, Oh, I took an aspirin today. No, but we had some real stranger dangers.
00:34:46
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Yeah, absolutely. With internet. Same with millennials. That's what kind of drew me to Halloween three. But the original Halloween, I love because it's one of the first horror movies I get to see at home. My dad let me watch it every Halloween and it freaked me out every time I did the coat hangers thing. Yeah, that's so good. I always freaked out and I always had to go outside after like, oh, I was like mopping the floors or some shit to stay up. That was kind of the trade off. Like do house work on it.
00:35:15
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Like, oh, I have to go outside in this spooky ass fucking middle of nowhere woods. Great. Awesome. I'll just go like not scared at all. I just fucking do this mopping mop bucket water. Yeah. My God. But it was cool when there's all this Shatner mask, too. So like you do that as on a low budget. They're like, oh, what's what's your mask? We'll do a fucking Shatner Halloween mask and just spray paint it. Yeah.
00:35:44
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and like turn inside out and spray paint it like white. It's effective. It worked. And I like that he was the shape in the first one because again, it's like this modern day telling of a boogeyman. The more all these things go on, the more lore that they have, the more that's just tagged on and on and on. Oh, that's something I should have done. I'd recently watched Jason Goes to Hell as well. And by that point,
00:36:13
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I think that's nine? It was right after he went to Manhattan.
00:36:19
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With the Muppets. With the Muppets. And then Jason went. How weird was that? Yeah. And then they had, they watched a show. It was really good. Um, but yeah, but just watching it, I was realizing how much lore had become out of it to where it just made no fucking sense. And you know, that happens with the Halloween too. Um,
00:36:48
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But I think that's Halloween also. Actually, Halloween too was very good because it starts exactly where the first one leaves off. Freddy Cougar as well. We did the Nightmare on the Street. Those are the times where they had the novelization of the movies coming out. Oh, my God. Level up. Right. Jaws for the novel. The novel.
00:37:13
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has voodoo in it like the shark is wait wait it's got voodoo in it it's good yes yeah that one who cares oh boy anyway so we're just meandering about halloween and i just always like it's so good
00:37:37
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What are you gonna say about the movie? If you haven't seen Halloween yet, the original, I don't think you're listening to this podcast at this point. You should go watch it. I'll rent it for you. Go steal it somewhere else. Do not watch, I know what you did last summer, a TV show, skip Twilight. What the fuck that was. Go see Halloween one and two. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised with them both. You know what? I can't even remember Halloween two. It was all in the hospital. That was the one where she was in the hospital.
00:38:07
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What is that? I don't remember. I don't I can't tell the queries apart. The one who's still alive. Oh, it's easier to tell them apart now. One's dead. Jim. Yeah. Like 20. Fuck off. Kind of like there's no there's my one F bomb for the. OK, let me like keep this out on. I'll get right out of here. Oh, no, that's not it.
00:38:34
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That's not it. There we go. Too little too late. What would you give? I mean, again, these are all practical effects or like kick ass. It's scary drama. And if you ever played Dead by Daylight, it transfers over like the whole stalking thing and the kill, kill, kill. I don't think I've ever watched that one.
00:38:58
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Oh, you should. Oh, that's pretty good. Dead by Daylight, the game. Oh. I think Evie watched you play it once. Yeah. Okay. I remember that now because I watched a YouTuber play it. And I got very scared.
00:39:17
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It is scary, but that's the thing. It becomes part of the design. It becomes part of the culture. It gets appropriated. It becomes the face of Halloween, the shape of
Halloween's Cultural Impact
00:39:31
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Halloween. Well, and it's the classic babysitter is stalked by this
00:39:39
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person, this thing. And that's like a lot of people's worst nightmares because you're very vulnerable because you're not yet at that cusp of adulthood, but you're in charge of other children.
00:39:59
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You know what? What? The babysitter being stuck by that thing. Yeah, that that's not even a trope. It comes from real life. It comes from Nickelodeon. I don't want to get sued, so I kind of beat this name out, but we all know what we're talking about. The file from Nickelodeon. Yeah. From what? The from Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon. Yeah. I don't. I'm not going to be sued. I'm beeping that shit out.
00:40:28
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No, well, because no, there, there have been real life cases. I know. I know. And they're in the, and they're litigious as fuck over at Nickelodeon. So I ain't saying shit beyond that. No, I'm, I, I have, I really have no idea what you're saying. I'm talking about. We'll talk about it. Okay. That's fine. Mine is from the forties. Sure. Sure. If you want to go back in time for that.
00:40:57
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I mean, that really happened back in the 40s. Happens now. Well, it does happen now. Everybody stays safe. Everybody stays safe. What was it like the babysitter did it? It's coming from inside the house. A lot of them like the monster in the house and babysitter has to save the world or actually.
00:41:16
Speaker
He kills a bunch of motherfuckers, like that one babysitter. Like, what was it? Like, it was the horror comedy. It was the Netflix one. Or you can read Bodies, which I actually have some poems about the babysitter in there. Bodies named after the Six Pistols song. Because it was really going to be Holy Woman Bleed and then apparently. And I said maybe. I was an Alice Cooper fan. I love Alice Cooper. Again, Michigan. He's from Michigan. Detroit Boy. I didn't realize there was a different connotation to that.
00:41:47
Speaker
Cause I think lyrically now like, Oh shit. No, the whole like will be a thing. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to. Yeah. Yeah. To not to your non-binary co-host. Right. But you know what, you know, it has zero trans a little bit. And uh, surviving Gen X available November 30th, uh, everywhere you've got books or both bodies also.
00:42:14
Speaker
That's by haunted MCL brass. I don't make money from bodies. I'm pushing. Yeah, but I make fame. I make fame, fame and glory. What are you giving me? What are you giving me? I give, I give haunted Montreal a one kazoo loser. Um, cash 4.5, 4.5. You know, I was thinking something four or five. It's not a perfect movie, but it's not perfect. Honestly, I think.
00:42:44
Speaker
But again, it's ahead of its time, you know, but, Kat, I don't want you on my lap. Seriously. If I listed you some John Carpenter films, you tell me which one is better than Halloween. OK, I'm going to see some John Carpenter films. The thing? That's the point. Because he's so prolific.
00:43:08
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The fog escape from New York. Oh, yeah. The thing. Halloween was Halloween. But the Halloween ones are almost like they live Prince of Darkness. I love better than the Halloween. I do. I haven't seen that one yet. You've never seen Prince of Darkness. Oh, I know. There's you know, honestly, there's a lot that I have to continue to continue to watch live.
00:43:35
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They live, it's perfect, it's beautiful. And like I said, it was like the beginning of it. So it was the one who was leading the race. And again, we're not saying Halloween is a bad movie. We actually booked it at 4.5 stars. It's a brilliant movie. We just think it's not a five star because John Carpenter did it.
00:43:56
Speaker
No, I love John Carpenter. Go give him your money. I love him so much that he did better movies. I'm rating, I'm rating his movie against his own movies. That's true.
Critique of Modern Horror Reboots
00:44:09
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But I think honestly the soundtrack is one of the best that he's, he's done. But this is okay. You know what really a five star movie from John Carver, they live. You know why? Mm-hmm. Roddy Piper's in it.
00:44:21
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Oh and Keith David. Keith David. Keith David. They have quaff fucking hairstyles. If Jamie Lee Curtis and Keith David writing paper on this fucking movie, 10 stars. He's. Thrupple. Thrupple goals. Fucking especially all the hair perfect and quaffing. Oh my god. Yes. Quacks. Beautiful. Yeah. Absolutely. Almost to the first day everyone's got clean gloves and shit. Absolutely. All right. So 4.5 for both. What do you want to plug box?
00:44:45
Speaker
Well, I already plugged John Carpenter. Give him your money, but I'm going to plug something controversial this, this time. Well, that too. Um, it is very controversial. I know I've read some of it. Um, I helped you with some of it. I know. I had to take some.
00:45:07
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recommend people get me shit. We'll double on that. So I received a couple of flyers. Huh? Like I know I have a black friend. I can use that word. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to go there. Where's my kazoo? I don't know where it is. So I've gotten I've gotten a couple of flyers from. Go for it.
00:45:37
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from local places. I'll just call them places. I'll just call them places, but they're for trunk retreats. And I'm very against inner city trunk retreats. Stay with me. You don't know what a trunk retreat is? Usually a trunk retreat is when
00:46:00
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usually a place of faith will have all their trunks open for the kids to trick or treat at basically in the parking lot. And oftentimes they do this so the kids won't go out for Halloween or they'll just say, Oh, you know, we already went and got candy. You have enough candy. That's yada, yada, yada.
00:46:23
Speaker
That is a huge thing. Now I understand trunk retreats in say like very rural areas where all the houses are spread out very far. Sure. Have your fun. I'm so glad. But in the inner city, the one thing that I love about Halloween is that it is the only true community holiday that we have.
00:46:47
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every other holiday. Grab a cookies during this Halloween thing. I have a diatribe Jim. I have a manifesto. So when that is unfortunately threatened, I get really upset about that because it becomes xenophobic.
00:47:09
Speaker
It becomes, don't trust your neighbors. It becomes, oh, there's razors in the thing, even though there's never been razors in the thing, except for very specific cases that usually lead back to people in the family or a neighbor that, yeah. My fucking sister checked her candy first, not my fault. I was gonna get the big bedroom, that's all I was trying to do. Can't blame my ass for razors in the fucking candy. I mean, I can, but I won't.
00:47:37
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So it's just really frustrating because again, this is the one holiday where kids will come to your, you know, your place. You'll see your neighbors that you haven't seen in years. Well, you're in Canada, which is less so than in America.
00:48:02
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And Mia, yeah. And me and my dad have a big thing that we do every year, you know, for all the kids and we dress up and I have a mad scientist lab and we have fun with the kids. And it's always fun to see what they come up with because kids are so creative and it's just a shame. They do say the darndest things and we're not going to even get into him. No, thank you.
00:48:29
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Oh, thank you. But so I am, I'm just saying, just have your kids have a fun Halloween. You know, I know it's not a weekend this year, but
00:48:47
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You know, let them go out, let them earn their candy. It's about going out, being safe to be scared. It's a safe way to be scared and to appreciate horror and to appreciate. You're talking about dating me. It's a safe way to be scared. No, it is not a safe way. It is not a safe way. Protect your hands on. No, no.
00:49:14
Speaker
Protect anything you have down there, up there, somewhere. All of the safe words are used within the first second. Telling you right now. That's actually my Tinder name. All the safe words are used for a second. Sponsored by my liquid IV code for my pictures. To wrap it up. Everybody be safe. Everybody have fun and enjoy your Halloween. It's a great time. It's a community time. The end.
00:49:41
Speaker
Kids, okay, that was a plug for not getting candy, I think. No, that's a plug for getting candy from your neighbors, for going to see your neighbors, for enjoying homey. Go to his house, go to his house, bang on his door. Trick or treat his ass. No, man. Well, not his ass, but. I got enough of that shit.
00:50:03
Speaker
Trick or treat responsibility. And sometimes I know it's not on a weekend this time, but sometimes municipalities make trick or treating that weekend. I don't like that. Make it a special holiday. I don't like that. Make it just a national holiday. I don't know. It is a Nevada. It used to be a state holiday. Oh, I like that.
00:50:27
Speaker
So my plug is surviving Gen X by Joe chef. Check. Go to amazon.com. That's how do you say you are? How do you say I've been Gen X surviving Gen X. No, Joe chef chef check. Yeah, you're not going to be able to anyways. Like you're checking your chef. Sure. So surviving Gen X. Check it out. Comes out November 30th. Pre-order it now on kindles and stuff like that.
00:50:57
Speaker
Oh, for Christmas, money goes to no charity whatsoever. Fuck yourselves. You are really grumpy today, even though your shirt says be kind. I'm just kind of me. So I'm grumpy today. No, look, look in the stores. A very cute kitty cat. I have a kitty. So if you see me in a signing, those books go to charity. I'll I'll give my fucking sales from the signings in the stores to where are you going to be signing?
00:51:26
Speaker
mostly Canada, so good fucking luck, I guess. I don't know. That's a big fucking country, dude. Yeah, I know. I'm trying to get the fuck out of the back. I'm trying to, it's like, see Canada. So go. Surviving Gen X. Go check it out. Leave a review if you liked it. Great. If you hate me, fuck yourself. I don't care anyways.
00:51:45
Speaker
But that's just a feedback I'm getting. I'm getting polarized. They're the press for calling it polarization. They either honestly so far, they either really love the book or hate me. Not even the fucking book. They physically hated me and like, what the fuck if you can't. I feel like our relationship, you know.
00:52:08
Speaker
But there you go. That's a show Good night everyone and stay safe From Jim apparently good candy from Churchill Was it chunker tree? Trunk or treat a chunker tree. I like that
00:52:38
Speaker
You need to go lay down and have some tea. Oh, you know what I need to do? I need to print down that mommy dearest poster so Lou Ferrigno comes to spina. You do! They'll be enjoyable. Say hi to Lou for me. Love you, Lou. I will. I hear a cat.