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85. Indie Horror Unleashed: Defining the Genre
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🎬 Dive into the thrilling world of indie horror with Streamin' Demons! In this episode, we unravel the essence of indie horror, exploring its niche themes and unique storytelling techniques that set it apart from mainstream fright fests.
Join us as we dissect four spine-chilling indie flicks: the mind-bending "Clone Cops," the heart-pounding "One Left Alive," the deliciously disturbing "Milk and Serial," and the bewitching "Inherit the Witch." We'll break down their production quality and overall entertainment value, giving you the inside scoop on these under-the-radar gems. Whether you're a die-hard horror buff or an indie film aficionado, this episode is your ticket to discovering the next cult classic! 🍿👻 #IndieHorror #StreaminDemons #HorrorReviews
Transcript
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jim_phoenix
Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here and today we've got a special horror. No, hold on. We got a special indie horror. Hold on.
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box they_them
yeah
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jim_phoenix
I think I saw that Gen Con.
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box they_them
Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
Indie horror. There we go. We have a special indie horror show with just indie stuff like Indiana Jones box. What are we doing?
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box they_them
and Something like that.
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jim_phoenix
independent. Okay.
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box they_them
Yeah, independent.
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jim_phoenix
We'll find out soon. We're taking, we're taking turns with indie horrors.
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box they_them
We're taking calls. We're taking calls.
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jim_phoenix
Don't say that Bigfoot has not called back.
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box they_them
ah
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jim_phoenix
All this and more next stream of demons hit it before he jinx us. Indie horrors. Can't wait.
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box they_them
I'm dancing along.
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jim_phoenix
I'm trying not to play the gay loop.
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box they_them
I knew you were gonna, because I was dancing.
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jim_phoenix
I know I had to. I'll delete that pretty soon.
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jim_phoenix
ah but but hey Hey everyone. All right. Welcome to streaming demons. We're talking about Siemens and demons and indie whores. Oars. Oars.
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box they_them
Something like that.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah. With my box host. Wait, what? My box host. My co-host box human.
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box they_them
Hi.
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jim_phoenix
Are you box human or to emperor? I see.
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box they_them
On the side, I'm J.M. Brannock. And then, you know, just box human as my Christian God-given name.
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jim_phoenix
Christian God given name back. Szymon G and Brannock. Good to have you. And if you are new to streaming demons season three, what the shit?
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box they_them
Holy wow.
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jim_phoenix
How the fuck are you new? It's almost we see we're heading towards season four. I mean, obviously that's how numbers work, but yeah.
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box they_them
Okay. What are we? Is it though?
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jim_phoenix
I mean, this, this is like end of September right now.
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box they_them
Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
We take off in about two months.
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box they_them
Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
We crushed the fucking Thanksgiving one, like the special and Thanksgiving. That's about it after that.
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box they_them
Yeah, we do a special things and then we kick off for a little while and
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jim_phoenix
Yeah. Enjoy your fucking Christmases and Hanukkah's and the holidays and Rama down, down long. It's probably down there.
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box they_them
I don't think Rama does then.
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jim_phoenix
I don't know.
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jim_phoenix
Fuck it. We're taking that one off too. New Year's Kwanzaa. I don't fucking know. I don't got a calendar.
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box they_them
of Festivus, for the rest of us.
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jim_phoenix
Best of us for the rest of us. So if you're new to streaming demons, cool. Welcome aboard.
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box they_them
Thank you. Hi.
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jim_phoenix
We review shit or movies.
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box they_them
so We do.
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jim_phoenix
And today we have a theme. The theme is independent film, horror, or horror, horror, or what?
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box they_them
or or.
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jim_phoenix
And Box and I are taking two each this time.
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box they_them
Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
And which one are you taking? Securus.
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box they_them
I am taking um left one behind and I am the whole.
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jim_phoenix
You're left behind? You're taking your left behind. Really? I'll take the right one then, Jimbo. Take a left, take a right. It's all good.
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box they_them
And then I'm also going to take milk in cereal and that's like S E R I A L.
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jim_phoenix
How is it?
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jim_phoenix
Oh shit, I did not know this is a S-P-E-L-L-I-N-G test.
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box they_them
milk and cereal.
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box they_them
Oh god, help us all.
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jim_phoenix
Welcome to Spelling Test, kids.
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box they_them
ah Welcome to the spelling.
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jim_phoenix
Like S-E-R-I-A-L.
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box they_them
It's not the cereal like you would think milk and cereal, it's the cereal that's like key, key, key.
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jim_phoenix
Oh wait, is this like Harvey Milk and cereal? Oh my God. Harvey's back and he's pissed.
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box they_them
i Oh my god, I would i'd watch the shit out of that movie.
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jim_phoenix
Back for revenge.
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jim_phoenix
Me too, only five people got that fucking reference button.
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jim_phoenix
That's all right, one shot in pen, like, I get that shit, like, God damn right you are. So, okay, you're doing milk and cookies, no, milk and cereal, shit.
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box they_them
milk and cereal, and left one alive.
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jim_phoenix
Focus, man. And my left behind.
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box they_them
Sorry, left one alive.
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jim_phoenix
So you didn't say left behind.
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box they_them
I was wrong. I did, I, I did say behind.
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jim_phoenix
You said, Jesus.
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box they_them
Look, where are we at?
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jim_phoenix
Oh my God.
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box they_them
Streamin' demons? What?
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jim_phoenix
Speem and Peemans.
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box they_them
Lehman?
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jim_phoenix
What were Speem and Peemans, kids?
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box they_them
screaming Streamin's... demons.
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jim_phoenix
The pemius show you'll find on this internet and I'll be doing, Oh, I can see, I got my room down though.
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box they_them
Yeah.
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box they_them
You do.
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jim_phoenix
I almost got it wrong though. The witch, damn it. No, I'm not doing the wish. Inherit the witch means the person who wrote the wish died and they gave you the witch, inherit the witch.
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box they_them
of the bitch.
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box they_them
And they inherited it.
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jim_phoenix
I didn't hear it.
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box they_them
They did.
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jim_phoenix
And clone cops, plural, not possessive. Or possession is pretense of the law, so it might be a parole possessive. All this and more on the next mustache marshal.
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jim_phoenix
What? Mustache marshmallow. That came out weird.
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box they_them
Now I'm confused as I was laughing.
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jim_phoenix
That will make sense in a bit. That will actually make sense in a bit.
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box they_them
Yeah. Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
I just interviewed the clone cops people today, and we're talking about the the head for clone cops.
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box they_them
Oh, okay.
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jim_phoenix
Spoiler. It's a marshmallow with a mustache.
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box they_them
Oh, that's cute.
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jim_phoenix
Helmet. That was very good.
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box they_them
That's cute.
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jim_phoenix
And I think we can get a bit into the laying down what we think indie filming is or indie horror is, and then we kind of do our picks.
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box they_them
ah Sure.
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jim_phoenix
Sound buff error?
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box they_them
Yeah, that sounds fine.
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jim_phoenix
We do not prep. Before the shows, we talk about random shit.
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box they_them
We do.
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jim_phoenix
We i was we' were talking about aliens today. We were talking about like...
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box they_them
We were talking, because we were supposed to do aliens for this podcast, and but I haven't seen the the newest one.
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jim_phoenix
Some was a slack-ass and didn't see Romulus yet.
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box they_them
hunt I was, I only saw, what, four movies so far?
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jim_phoenix
Oh, no, six, right? Eight. No, eight, yes?
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box they_them
well Well, not currently. it's Currently, it's only four. I've seen the first four aliens.
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jim_phoenix
We saw the prequels in the theater, at least one prequel, plus alien versus predator.
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box they_them
I did. I saw the prequels, yep, and I saw Alien vs. Predator in the theater.
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jim_phoenix
No, shit, see.
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box they_them
Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
We have a new special coming up, it was the alien special next. And guess what?
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box they_them
Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
oh Oh my god, I figured it out.
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box they_them
What?
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jim_phoenix
The aliens that eat cats, that's fucking Alf. He was watching fucking Alf reruns.
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box they_them
Wait, what?
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jim_phoenix
And he's like, holy shit, all these aliens are eating cats.
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box they_them
Yeah, that's out.
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jim_phoenix
he was He was talking about fucking Alf during the debate.
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box they_them
Oh, so yeah.
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jim_phoenix
Oh my god.
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box they_them
ah would be That would be why, honestly.
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jim_phoenix
What the shit? He did see, he said, I saw it on TV.
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box they_them
i don't
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jim_phoenix
I'm like, oh Christ, he's seeing Alf. He's talking about fucking Alf.
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box they_them
I mean, he's orange too, so.
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jim_phoenix
Ha, Mal Mac. Okay. That, that, this is getting scarier.
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box they_them
ah Anyway.
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jim_phoenix
It's getting scarier. where We can now decode the former president's logic strain. And it's as worse as I kind of wish it was just like he was blaming people. He was just blaming fucking the physical elf 80s TV show.
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box they_them
He was blaming an 80s show. Yes. 80s TV show.
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jim_phoenix
Oh, fuck me, man. All right. Okay. So if you knew this human doing this, here's the depression part of it. No. we will talk this out a bit on what really makes indie because we've viewed some really good indie films before and some really sure horrific ones before and some films like would you okay is evil dead indie to you right yeah i think that's has to be because it's the
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box they_them
yeah
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box they_them
Yeah, I would say the originals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. like oh And honestly too, and I'll have to talk to my dad because he was he worked for the studio where They had Sam Raimi come in with like the proofs, and they basically loaned out the cameras to them.
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jim_phoenix
Really?
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box they_them
And they would come back in with the cameras all like shitted up and gunked up because they're in the middle of fucking nowhere filming this. And like they would get really upset because they're like, these are these are quote quality cameras and you're like, gonna fuck these up.
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jim_phoenix
They were quality cameras.
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box they_them
Yeah. quality But yes, so I feel like if there's not a lot of um financial backing and also production backing from like a studio or or something like that, if it's very, a small scale operation that's generally like independent horror.
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jim_phoenix
No.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah, if they don't have a pimp, I think that's my definition of independent horror.
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box they_them
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah, yeah.
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box they_them
If they don't have a lot of studio interference and um
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jim_phoenix
Okay, then the how about this? Is Kevin Smith's Clerks independent film?
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box they_them
Mm-hmm.
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box they_them
I would say so.
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jim_phoenix
Because at the time he has zero studio, I mean, Weinstein kind of signs it on.
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box they_them
Right.
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box they_them
I mean, now he he does. I would not say tusk is independent.
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jim_phoenix
Okay, but let's no big here you go. I think Tusk was kind of financed by some dude who's like, yeah, that sounds fucking weird.
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box they_them
Well...
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jim_phoenix
Go for it.
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box they_them
It's, I guess... It is a little bit tough to say, but I would say a lot of the movies, especially within horror, there's a lot and lot of independent horror.
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box they_them
You can tell like the nun is not independent horror. Like anything Blumhouse, that's not gonna be independent.
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jim_phoenix
b Blum houses, yeah. I was thinking of the same Blum House or pumping them out.
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box they_them
That's gonna be...
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jim_phoenix
but is 2B originals independent because 2D, 2D.
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box they_them
2D.
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jim_phoenix
2B is a studio. Also 2D, it's my new studio, 2D TV.
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box they_them
I don't... TDTV.
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jim_phoenix
t Double O-T-I.
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box they_them
oh
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jim_phoenix
And you actually installed double O, because I'm fucked up that way.
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box they_them
Honestly, I would say those are not because again, it's coming from 2VA if it's coming from a studio.
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jim_phoenix
It's a studio.
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box they_them
Now, if it's like Shutter where the people make a movie, and I'm not talking about Shutter originals, but um the people make a movie and then Shutter will say, we will distribute it, that's still independent.
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jim_phoenix
Oh.
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jim_phoenix
They're the distribution.
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box they_them
It's just being distributed through a bigger company.
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jim_phoenix
kind of like, right, okay. Okay, now, so we've got this, go for it.
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box they_them
Okay, like Blair Witch 1 would be independent, but Blair Witch 2 would not be independent.
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jim_phoenix
Which we discussed last time that I did not write the SQL of two.
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box they_them
Yeah, supposedly, allegedly.
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jim_phoenix
Allegedly, allegedly.
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box they_them
yeah
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jim_phoenix
Yeah, know probably been better though. If they use my fucking the script, thanks for changing things. Entirely changing things. All right, so you have that aspect of it, but do you think special effects, the independent films have lack of special effects or do they
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box they_them
It depends on the movie. Like if they're very, cause I would say Phil Tippett's Mad God would be independent because that was a lifelong project, but it was highly, you know, in his style and highly um grotesque and very um ah like image focused.
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jim_phoenix
Oh my God. Yes. I think.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah.
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box they_them
So I think it just depends on the person who's directing if um Like I said, it's very small skeleton crew. So if they have people who are, you know, that's the focus of it.
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box they_them
um Like one of my my movies, it was great because I got to meet the director and he got to talk about some of the the um the special effects and the the creature designs.
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jim_phoenix
Oh, cool. Nice.
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box they_them
on It just really depends on the director or the people that are going to be involved in it.
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jim_phoenix
The back home behind it, like we we did Empire Queen, the the Golden Age of Magic and that special effects and the fucking cinematography was top notch and they were indeed.
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box they_them
hu Yeah, absolutely.
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jim_phoenix
And then we see things that we've all seen those indie films, cause we get enough of them that they're just like, oh, have anyone, but they go oof. And yet they inspire you because you're like, fuck, I can do better than this.
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box they_them
Yeah, I mean, I could say the same from major budget movies, though, too, like,
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jim_phoenix
True.
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box they_them
Oh yeah, that story. Okay. I, and could I have a pass at it? You know? Um, but I mean, I think I give indie movies a lot more leniency because I understand that they are working within restrictions.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah.
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box they_them
They have a big idea and how can they make that possible? So I do give a lot more leniency towards them because they are working, I would say even saw, saw one.
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box they_them
was an independent because it was very yeah carry always yeah um because they they did not have they had one location and they're like what can we do with one location well i'm just saying okay all right all right okay
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jim_phoenix
What the shit? You would say saw one of Corey fucking our carry for the house.
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jim_phoenix
Oh, okay, oh, you're doing location? Dude, they had a $1.2 million dollars budget.
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jim_phoenix
James Wan directed it.
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box they_them
Yeah, but that was before he was like a big name.
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jim_phoenix
Lionsgate, Lionsgate.
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box they_them
That was, okay, okay, okay, okay. I stand corrected.
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jim_phoenix
Like Saul Wan, like motherfucker with this.
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box they_them
I stand corrected.
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jim_phoenix
Oh, wait, was that Saul? I think I Saul, I saw Saul Wan. Did I see it in the theater?
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box they_them
You might've.
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jim_phoenix
Maybe. How about this? They live.
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jim_phoenix
not independent, but just low budget.
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box they_them
That's, it's, yeah.
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jim_phoenix
Cause now we go into low budget movies. They're not independent.
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box they_them
Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
They're just like being the the bees, the, the traumas, the, uh, that one guy who's I named like me so bad.
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box they_them
The the B movies, yeah. the bees. um
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box they_them
Roger Corman.
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jim_phoenix
I didn't thank you. I could have used it during an interview.
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box they_them
You're welcome.
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jim_phoenix
I was like describing it. Yeah, you know, either the movies, like a little house of sores and a little shop horse, the good version of it, which means the one of methylated.
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box they_them
Yeah, and well, and like our last last episode, we're talking about 13 ghosts and William Castle.
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box they_them
Yeah, so like the William Castles of it, you know, yes, there are also B movies, but that doesn't mean that they're independent movies.
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jim_phoenix
the monk.
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jim_phoenix
Right. Would you say Roger Corman because we brought him up briefly, but is that independent because he was financing the shit out of it and just like
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box they_them
I think some of his movies, yes. Like, yeah, like the one that we talked about with Roger Corman, that was with Jacqueline Colson. And it was the only Roger Corman movie that failed, but he completely funded it.
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box they_them
He put a second, his brother put a a second mortgage on his house to fund this movie.
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jim_phoenix
Right.
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box they_them
So I would say that would be, and no, no studio would touch it. So I would say that would be an independent movie because he was working just through his
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jim_phoenix
He put the shit out.
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box they_them
means.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah. Okay. So we get some fucking rules in this and
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box they_them
Yeah, you know, like, it's, it's, yeah, for the most part, I mean, I'm sure there is better definitions, but I would that's the definition that I kind of generally go off of.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah, I think that's one is fair to work with that one. And there's no longer independent films aren't getting like, it doesn't have a theatrical release. Like, no, straight to video was a thing, but now we have straight to streaming.
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box they_them
Yep.
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jim_phoenix
And just because it doesn't have a theatrical release, it could be doing film festivals.
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box they_them
Hashtag Chad to get the axe.
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jim_phoenix
And Chad did get the accident. Son of a bitch.
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box they_them
He did.
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jim_phoenix
We're
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box they_them
But yes, like like you said, and actually the one of the movies that I'm going to be reviewing the left one. Oh my gosh.
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jim_phoenix
The left behind.
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box they_them
I always left one alive.
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jim_phoenix
The left behind, dude.
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box they_them
Sorry. Left one alive.
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jim_phoenix
Stream and payments with the left behind.
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box they_them
Streamin' Sheemans.
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jim_phoenix
I should not have shown you that all porn awards bag before we started.
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box they_them
Seemanscremans.
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box they_them
I know. I mean, we talk about a lot of stuff.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah, I think it was like, so yeah, I'm so sorry. Your things broke.
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box they_them
Yeah, my microphone.
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jim_phoenix
Yes, yes, yes.
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box they_them
My very weird, large microphone.
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jim_phoenix
I don't want to hear it.
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box they_them
Yes, I know. um But like that movie, like I got to see one of the releases through um Motor City Nightmares.
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jim_phoenix
The snowball.
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box they_them
So he's been doing the con circuits.
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jim_phoenix
All right.
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box they_them
going to horror cons to show the movie.
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jim_phoenix
Okay.
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box they_them
So.
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jim_phoenix
I think, yeah, the the movie circuit thing. I think that's all good to people going to Joe Bob's Jamboree in Las Vegas in two weeks in October. I think that's going to be a lot of indie thrown in there.
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box they_them
Probably.
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jim_phoenix
And I think that indie is no longer that they have dirty word.
00:16:31
box they_them
No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
00:16:34
jim_phoenix
Because we've seen some very much some quality some stuff, you know, some really quality stuff coming out as indie.
00:16:39
box they_them
Well, again, like, you know, I think it does help when, like, say the Blair Witch or, you know, it becomes this, this Clerks, like it becomes this wider phenomenon and that really puts people on the map.
00:16:45
jim_phoenix
Clerks. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:52
jim_phoenix
found footage found footage itself. It's got to be mostly fuck indie, except for paranormal.
00:16:56
box they_them
Yeah. Yeah, paranormal activities.
00:17:00
jim_phoenix
Was that Blum, right?
00:17:02
box they_them
Um, ah yeah, I think that even the first one was.
00:17:06
jim_phoenix
OK, so we got it. We got a good thing going on right now. Now we are going to go through these. I'm lazy as hell. I need to Google how to spell which.
00:17:20
jim_phoenix
That's going to help.
00:17:20
box they_them
I think it's V-V-I-T-C.
00:17:22
jim_phoenix
V V I T C H. Okay. I'll get the IMDB for that one.
00:17:25
box they_them
The one that you really like, the one that you really like, the vivitch.
00:17:29
jim_phoenix
God. Well, guess what? There's a, there's a new, there's a new, uh, gunslinger in town.
00:17:35
box they_them
The bitch.
00:17:38
jim_phoenix
There you go. I've been up for too much. I'm gonna let you go first.
00:17:42
box they_them
Okay, both of mine are just one or one.
00:17:42
jim_phoenix
I'm tired. I'm lazy. Just one, one and one.
00:17:45
box they_them
okay
00:17:45
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:17:46
box they_them
All right, well I will go ahead with Milk and Cereal, which is a found footage horror film. You can actually watch it in its entirety on YouTube.
00:17:55
jim_phoenix
Oh, really?
00:17:57
box they_them
um Yeah, and it's making rounds with the kids these days.
00:18:00
jim_phoenix
On our channel?
00:18:03
box they_them
What?
00:18:05
jim_phoenix
On our YouTube channel?
00:18:05
box they_them
That is making, no, no, no, just on YouTube.
00:18:09
jim_phoenix
Oh.
00:18:09
box they_them
If you go to me Milk and Cereal found footage horror, you will find it. Let's see who it's...
00:18:16
jim_phoenix
That's the website Milk The Serial Found Footage Channel?
00:18:19
box they_them
no it's so it's it looks like that's a bad idea is the um the the the place you can find it that's the name of the thing but if you just look up milk and cereal oh my god anyway so milk and cereal
00:18:20
jim_phoenix
That's a hell of a fucking site.
00:18:29
jim_phoenix
dot com.
00:18:34
jim_phoenix
I think the bad idea was naming it that fucking long over the name.
00:18:40
jim_phoenix
Look, look, so spell it. M Y Q E. And for San, they actually spell out the ampersand.
00:18:48
box they_them
thank is basically, it's like a surprise birthday party prank.
00:18:51
jim_phoenix
A M P. Oh, so.
00:18:54
box they_them
um So it's about influencers and basically it's like a prank channel.
00:18:57
jim_phoenix
Oh, God. Oh no.
00:18:59
box they_them
So these people are like pranking each other and the stakes get really high in this one.
00:19:04
jim_phoenix
I hate fucking pranksters.
00:19:06
box they_them
And I don't want to give too much away because it's, but it is about a prank gone wrong and they do all go wrong.
00:19:12
jim_phoenix
They all go wrong.
00:19:15
box they_them
But it's, it is a fun movie. um especially like i said like for ah an indie horror that you can find on YouTube, very easy to get.
00:19:26
box they_them
It's like an hour and some change long.
00:19:30
jim_phoenix
And now we're some change long.
00:19:31
box they_them
And and it has like just a good um ah good story, to be honest. like It's very tight. It's very compact. It has good acting.
00:19:40
jim_phoenix
We're still doing phrasing, right?
00:19:44
box they_them
um and really good um special effects with the blood and things like that.
00:19:50
jim_phoenix
You know, you just said,
00:19:51
box they_them
What?
00:19:54
jim_phoenix
Yeah. So it's the best indie horror we found on YouTube and it's very tight and compact. And it's, it's ah um like, what that are you listening and very good at acting?
00:20:05
box they_them
What do you
00:20:06
jim_phoenix
Are you listening to what you're saying? You're basically pimping someone out at this point.
00:20:10
box they_them
mean? I'm not putting somebody out.
00:20:11
jim_phoenix
Not yet.
00:20:12
box they_them
I'm saying it's a good movie.
00:20:13
jim_phoenix
Oh, it is a good movie. Why is it good movie? Because it's tight and compact.
00:20:18
box they_them
Well, because again, it's not meandering. It has, like, i but a thing with movies, especially indie, sometimes they go on for a little bit too long and they overstay their welcome.
00:20:30
box they_them
And I'm just saying that it's it's a good flow.
00:20:31
jim_phoenix
Yes.
00:20:34
box they_them
The pacing is really well kept.
00:20:36
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:20:37
box they_them
um That's what I mean by tight and compact story, you know?
00:20:40
jim_phoenix
Okay, so it's got a fast clip to it.
00:20:43
box they_them
yeah it's it's it's a good flow it's a good pace you're never like oh what are we doing now and you're never like oh god what what just happened because it's it's really good at setting it up it's really good at a reveal um like i said i don't want to give too much of it away but but it's the acting is really good you can see people because you know you watch youtubers and some of these people that are on there you're just like
00:21:02
jim_phoenix
Right.
00:21:14
box they_them
Okay, they they don't seem real or natural or anything like that and it builds off of that.
00:21:22
jim_phoenix
So.
00:21:22
box they_them
It builds off of like these people who are caught in this thing of having to create content.
00:21:31
jim_phoenix
Okay. They're doing a character who somehow got famous in YouTube and now they're pressurized to do more content for the channel because we don't do content. You're going to like flame out and who wants to flame out when you're 12.
00:21:47
box they_them
Kind of, yeah. And I think it's it's really because one person manipulates another person into really believing that and into really following along with the events that happen.
00:21:59
jim_phoenix
Does this movie, without spoiling it, does this movie end with Mike Tyson beating the shit out of one of them?
00:22:06
box they_them
I cannot say that without spoiling it.
00:22:07
jim_phoenix
Without spoiling. Okay. maybe Maybe, maybe it's just how, how my version of this movie ends in reality.
00:22:16
box they_them
um But yeah, it doesn't really bring anything super new to the table, but it doesn't really need to. I mean, it's a nice, fun movie just to watch and enjoy, especially with friends.
00:22:23
jim_phoenix
Okay. yeah yeah
00:22:29
box they_them
um I watched it with a friend of mine, and we had a good time.
00:22:32
jim_phoenix
And they're still your friend.
00:22:34
box they_them
And they're still my friend.
00:22:36
jim_phoenix
Oh my God. It's like the opposite last show.
00:22:38
box they_them
I know.
00:22:39
jim_phoenix
I like that.
00:22:39
box they_them
Well, see, the problem is, if I wanted to watch it with a date it would probably end the date but with friends it's fine and even even this like i wasn't really making fun of it it was just fun to watch with someone else because it was like oh what what's happening here oh oh god you know it's fun to see other people's reactions when you're watching it
00:22:49
jim_phoenix
We can do a, these are good for friends movies because there's no tension needed. You can always make fun of it. Hey, look at this movie. It's a YouTubers. It was Bratz.
00:23:04
jim_phoenix
Right.
00:23:12
jim_phoenix
What's the sound effects? What's the music score? Is it all kind of but because it's found footage, right?
00:23:19
box they_them
It's yeah, well, it's I and I quote quote unquote found footage because again, it's a streaming movie.
00:23:20
jim_phoenix
More or less or quote unquote.
00:23:26
jim_phoenix
Right.
00:23:28
box they_them
So it's like instantly found footage because people are streaming or it will be their personal like vlogs, you know, kind of a thing um to where I haven't seen that one.
00:23:38
jim_phoenix
It's Dee Snider's Strangeland.
00:23:42
box they_them
Sorry.
00:23:43
jim_phoenix
You haven't seen Dee Snider's Strangeland?
00:23:45
box they_them
No.
00:23:47
jim_phoenix
Oh, never mind that, man.
00:23:50
box they_them
All right, okay, and okay.
00:23:50
jim_phoenix
Nope. Nope. But there's not putting a lot of you know music on it, because it's going to be YouTube hits anyways.
00:23:56
box they_them
The music is minimal, but it it is atmospheric. It does add to it.
00:24:00
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:24:01
box they_them
um There is a creepy person in it, and it does enhance all of the the creepiness of it, and it does enhance the tension.
00:24:11
jim_phoenix
And that creepy person, can you tell us it's, it's baby Yoda.
00:24:12
box they_them
So it is Baby Yoda.
00:24:16
jim_phoenix
Oh my God, he's getting so much love since Mandalorian.
00:24:17
box they_them
I mean, I didn't mean to spoil it, guys.
00:24:20
jim_phoenix
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
00:24:20
box they_them
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry.
00:24:22
jim_phoenix
Our bad, our bad, our bad.
00:24:24
box they_them
But the acting is really good.
00:24:25
jim_phoenix
Oh, that's their laugh. I didn't mean it.
00:24:28
box they_them
The acting is very good.
00:24:30
jim_phoenix
Okay. What would you give it a little out of five?
00:24:34
box they_them
I would give it, that's a hard one, um I would say because it's it's a quick watch, it's fun. I'll probably watch it again at some point, probably like a four.
00:24:48
jim_phoenix
Oh my god, a four.
00:24:49
box they_them
It's pretty big. It's pretty big. Yeah.
00:24:52
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:24:52
box they_them
Like I said, it's quick. It's fun. It's easy. Good acting. Bing, bang, boom.
00:24:58
jim_phoenix
And that's milk and cereal.
00:25:00
box they_them
Milk and cereal.
00:25:02
jim_phoenix
All right, and your next one's left behind. Okay, if we're doing it.
00:25:05
box they_them
Left one alive.
00:25:08
jim_phoenix
Oh wow, now I did it. Shit, okay.
00:25:10
box they_them
You did.
00:25:11
jim_phoenix
Tea cup saucer out.
00:25:11
box they_them
I feel so bad.
00:25:12
jim_phoenix
I will do. Ooh. Uh, this is a four.
00:25:19
box they_them
Yeah, I would say a four, yeah.
00:25:22
jim_phoenix
If you had to pick between doing a, for me, if you had to pick between doing a good one and a bad one, which one do you think I should do next? Cause I didn't see any of yours.
00:25:33
box they_them
Um, I think you should, well, I like both of mine, but you look bad.
00:25:38
jim_phoenix
Oh, you'd like both of yours.
00:25:39
box they_them
I do like both of mine.
00:25:40
jim_phoenix
Oh. shoot okay oh my god so we'll do a sandwich this way then i'm gonna do inherit the witch we'll do a sandwich sandwich and inherit the witch witch witch witch i get it now it's it's it's uh it's a minute 25 uh it's too long hour 25 and i'm reading this from the imdb in 1984 a family throws a 14th birthday party oh shit that's an entire sentence okay good for them
00:25:42
box they_them
Yeah, sorry. Womp womp.
00:25:47
box they_them
okay Okay, sandwich. Okay,
00:25:58
box they_them
okay yeah. Okay.
00:26:10
jim_phoenix
Oh, there's more. Well, they just got to edit it. Like, I don't know who does copy 30 years later. So that'd be the 44. Okay. They reunite the the family does at two isolated houses in the forest where horrific truths are uncovered about the family's a cult pack of an ancient evil that's embedded in their wealth and power.
00:26:32
jim_phoenix
Okay. I don't fucking know, man.
00:26:35
box they_them
What does the birthday have to do with any of that?
00:26:39
jim_phoenix
i I watched it.
00:26:41
box they_them
Oh, you did?
00:26:41
jim_phoenix
I watched it. I did. I did.
00:26:43
box they_them
Okay.
00:26:44
jim_phoenix
I did. And the tagline is if you're afraid, you're not alive.
00:26:46
box they_them
And the birthday doesn't really impact the ancient evil.
00:26:55
jim_phoenix
Oh wait, if you're not afraid, if you're afraid, you're not alive. Sorry. That one I read wrong.
00:27:00
box they_them
you're not
00:27:01
jim_phoenix
If you're not afraid, you're not alive. And it's it's from the UK.
00:27:05
box they_them
That's still, that's still a weird tagline.
00:27:08
jim_phoenix
Yeah. the The movie poster looks kind of cool-ish.
00:27:12
box they_them
Yeah, the movie poster doesn't look bad.
00:27:14
jim_phoenix
We're looking at posters, yeah.
00:27:16
box they_them
I'm like looking at it.
00:27:16
jim_phoenix
And I,
00:27:18
box they_them
It looks like, is there a Native American?
00:27:20
jim_phoenix
oh God, no, I think that's just, I, okay.
00:27:21
box they_them
He looks kind of Native American.
00:27:24
box they_them
Oh.
00:27:28
box they_them
Okay.
00:27:28
jim_phoenix
Okay, I got this release. Oh, it was released on Tuesday 24th. It's coming out soon, everyone.
00:27:34
box they_them
Oh.
00:27:34
jim_phoenix
Soon, soon, soon, soon on streaming services near you.
00:27:37
box they_them
Yeah, you can't you can't release that until almost.
00:27:40
jim_phoenix
Yeah, so we're actually talking about before it's released, so it's a proper review.
00:27:42
box they_them
Yeah.
00:27:43
jim_phoenix
It's past embargo time, so we can talk what we want.
00:27:46
box they_them
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:46
jim_phoenix
It's a UK movie, and I see these come in, and it's usually in my jam. I'm like, oh, I read it. It's like, oh, it's about witches, and it's from the UK. Oh, hell yes, I'll do this.
00:27:55
box they_them
Yeah, usually that works out pretty good.
00:27:59
jim_phoenix
So it's, yeah, about the trailer.
00:27:59
box they_them
Much kind of the trailer right now.
00:28:06
jim_phoenix
I'm gonna say it this i'm just to say it straight out. There's no easy way to say it. Remember when we did the movies that would break up a relationship?
00:28:14
box they_them
Yeah.
00:28:16
jim_phoenix
I think we did that episode too soon.
00:28:19
box they_them
Oh, okay.
00:28:20
jim_phoenix
I almost, almost did a first date with this movie.
00:28:25
box they_them
Ooh, okay.
00:28:26
jim_phoenix
Almost did a first date with this movie. And the person I was supposed to do it with, first thing, was very smart and said, ah, I'm ignoring that fucking text.
00:28:40
jim_phoenix
I'm not going to come over to watch that. No.
00:28:42
box they_them
yeah
00:28:43
jim_phoenix
I mean, because, you know, the first day, you know, and then I watched it.
00:28:46
box they_them
yeah Yeah, yeah.
00:28:49
jim_phoenix
I'm like, oh, wow. I dodged a fucking roller gator. I dodged a fucking during it, during it.
00:28:54
box they_them
Oh, no.
00:28:58
jim_phoenix
I actually started reminiscing about roller gator. Like, you know, this movie needs Joe Estes.
00:29:04
box they_them
Oh, but it looks so pretty. It does look pretty, ah like in the trailer.
00:29:10
jim_phoenix
Sure, sure.
00:29:11
box they_them
on
00:29:12
jim_phoenix
I'm gonna give it the best. I'm gonna give like the college go. Now, it's not because there's gay people in it. Let me get that out straight out. It's not because there's gay people in it.
00:29:22
box they_them
You hate it because there's gay people is that what the oh my god, is that the horrific truth?
00:29:24
jim_phoenix
All right.
00:29:28
jim_phoenix
Is that the horrific truth? Yeah, if they're not afraid.
00:29:30
box they_them
and There's gays
00:29:32
jim_phoenix
There's gays in 1884. But here's the thing. It starts out in 1984, right? And it starts out at these two people's birthday parties. But honestly, God, I don't know if they're twins or not twins or just happen to have birthdays close to each other, but apparently they're related.
00:29:49
jim_phoenix
And there's another girl who's there who's just just fucking there. He's like, I don't want to do any of these fucking games. And they're playing Twister in 1984. I'm like, really? Twister in 1984. Okay, sure. Whatever.
00:29:58
box they_them
No, why not?
00:29:59
jim_phoenix
For the 14 year old birthday party. And no,
00:30:02
box they_them
I mean, that's what you do when you're 14 and you want to touch boobs.
00:30:06
jim_phoenix
no, it's family Twister.
00:30:08
box they_them
Ew!
00:30:09
jim_phoenix
This is nothing.
00:30:09
box they_them
Ew, ew, ew!
00:30:11
jim_phoenix
Thank you.
00:30:11
box they_them
No, no, no, no, no.
00:30:12
jim_phoenix
Fucking thank the grandmas or the grandpas are doing that.
00:30:13
box they_them
No.
00:30:15
jim_phoenix
They they got the dads there.
00:30:16
box they_them
No, no, no. Like, Twister is supposed to be, like, your first time that you feel up a girl, like.
00:30:18
jim_phoenix
They got the entire left boob red. Yeah. Yes. If they did it that way, it wouldn't make sense.
00:30:29
box they_them
I think that was Twister's tagline in fact.
00:30:31
jim_phoenix
Feel a boob. Have one on us.
00:30:35
box they_them
Have a sack in your face.
00:30:35
jim_phoenix
Have some today's on us. Oh, Diddy, we miss you.
00:30:37
box they_them
It's Twister.
00:30:41
jim_phoenix
No, we don't.
00:30:42
box they_them
No.
00:30:42
jim_phoenix
No, we don't.
00:30:43
box they_them
No we don't.
00:30:44
jim_phoenix
I don't. You know, the sad thing is I can't name one fucking thing he did.
00:30:47
box they_them
ah
00:30:48
jim_phoenix
Anyways, but going back to this, it starts out interesting enough.
00:30:49
box they_them
Anyways.
00:30:55
jim_phoenix
They're using the we're taping this to with the big camcorder, the eighties as taping the birthday party angle. which kind of does work. I'm like, oh, the beginning is like, okay, it's kind of working.
00:31:06
box they_them
Yeah, it's kinda neat.
00:31:07
jim_phoenix
And then this woman who's might be the step mom or something, it gets kind of muddy on the relationship that comes later. She's like, Hey little kid, I'm a witch.
00:31:21
jim_phoenix
I'm going to give you a special treatment. like Oh, this is going to sound weird. Cause he doesn't give her to special treatment. Just say I'm okay. Whatever. And the guy's friends like, Oh no, a witch is a, I don't believe in you fuckers.
00:31:33
jim_phoenix
Oh, I'm a witch. I'll show you ah here. Give me your finger. And she starts freaking his finger and drink it into a cup. It's like, Oh, you're going to drink my blood. Like now, unless you want me to notice he's like a kid.
00:31:46
box they_them
This sounds weird.
00:31:47
jim_phoenix
Yeah. He's 13, 14.
00:31:48
box they_them
Stranger Danger. I feel like this is a movie about Stranger Danger.
00:31:53
jim_phoenix
It is. It really is. But the strangers from inside the house, it made me go like, okay.
00:31:58
box they_them
The Stranger Danger is from inside the house.
00:31:59
jim_phoenix
So the families. She's sucking the blood from the cup and saying, we're going to make a pack with you're inside of me. Now it's comes creepy and kind of like the Disney channel would say inappropriate for the time we filled it.
00:32:10
box they_them
Ew. Yeah, no. No, thank you.
00:32:20
jim_phoenix
And today's time to say, you know, I was like,
00:32:21
box they_them
yeah
00:32:23
jim_phoenix
I was watching Aladdin, they put that as a warning. Inappropriate from the time we filmed it.
00:32:26
box they_them
oh But here it is.
00:32:27
jim_phoenix
Here it is anyways, fuckers.
00:32:31
jim_phoenix
It's that, I'm like, oh, she's like a step away from just sucking his finger right now and she's definitely 30s or 40s.
00:32:37
box they_them
ah And she's like the stepmom.
00:32:39
jim_phoenix
Yeah, just that that vibe.
00:32:41
box they_them
It just gets weirder and weirder.
00:32:43
jim_phoenix
And she's not taping it. And then the next scene, it's a guy getting a blowjob.
00:32:50
box they_them
Oh, is this the kid fast forward?
00:32:54
jim_phoenix
I don't fucking know. And that's the thing.
00:32:55
box they_them
Oh.
00:32:56
jim_phoenix
That's where the movie fell apart. The next fucking scene for me, because I couldn't place any of the adult actors to the child that they were supposed to be.
00:33:07
jim_phoenix
So I had no idea who the fuck was who for a while.
00:33:07
box they_them
ah Oh, so it was like it, but you had no clues.
00:33:13
jim_phoenix
Zero.
00:33:14
box they_them
Yeah.
00:33:15
jim_phoenix
Cause like, I don't remember one of them being gay and getting blow jobs.
00:33:15
box they_them
Okay.
00:33:22
box they_them
Well, look, when you're a kid, you don't usually get blowjobs, even if you're gay.
00:33:22
jim_phoenix
I guess one of them was.
00:33:28
jim_phoenix
Just turn that shit down.
00:33:29
box they_them
I mean, that's just usually not how that works.
00:33:32
jim_phoenix
and then And honestly, god I didn't know if the guy getting head was one of the kids or the guy giving it was one of the kids or they're both for the fucking kids.
00:33:42
box they_them
Or both were one of the kids?
00:33:43
jim_phoenix
Yeah, because they had multiple kids there and I didn't know and the dude gets a phone call.
00:33:49
box they_them
Will he's getting head?
00:33:49
jim_phoenix
And then I can't or after me, I think it might be immediately after. And it's one of those things where the the sex scene is very awkward because like, oh, I'm faking it.
00:34:00
box they_them
Hmm.
00:34:01
jim_phoenix
Oh, this is so great. I like how you rim my nuts. Is that a thing? I don't know.
00:34:07
box they_them
ah Is that the movie's tagline?
00:34:07
jim_phoenix
How am I going to do that?
00:34:10
jim_phoenix
If you don't have your nuts being rimmed, you're not afraid or wait.
00:34:14
box they_them
You're not afraid. You're not alive.
00:34:16
jim_phoenix
You're not alive. Although I think that's my fucking new t-shirt. Hold on.
00:34:20
box they_them
I mean, that's a pretty kick-ass t-shirt.
00:34:22
jim_phoenix
I think that's the new hobbies tagline. rings of power five is the anal ring toss today. Ooh, I miss playing anal ring toss. All right.
00:34:31
box they_them
Okay, anyway, my mom listens.
00:34:31
jim_phoenix
Oh, going back to this. Hey mom, how are you? All right. So what we do is they do the phone call thing and you know, I have to give props to the person acting.
00:34:47
jim_phoenix
It's very hard to act as a phone call when you have no one else to work off of.
00:34:53
box they_them
Yeah, right, right. It's like working with green screen because there's really nothing there.
00:34:58
jim_phoenix
Yes. And unfortunately for the guy, they don't loop it. So he's, I think they're just taking the fucking sound of him saying things with no one actually feeding him lines, or at least that's what appears to be that painful.
00:35:08
box they_them
Oh god.
00:35:11
jim_phoenix
I'm like, Oh, I've done that for auditions before, but like never fucking like never have I done that live.
00:35:12
box they_them
Oh.
00:35:17
jim_phoenix
Like there's like, Holy shit, that's painful. And then you don't really hear the person on the other end.
00:35:25
box they_them
Are they supposed to be spooky? Is the other person supposed to be spooky?
00:35:27
jim_phoenix
No, no, fucking they're supposed to be talking on the other end. The camera cuts to them talking.
00:35:33
box they_them
Ah.
00:35:33
jim_phoenix
And sometimes you hear it and sometimes you just fucking don't.
00:35:36
box they_them
Oh.
00:35:37
jim_phoenix
And so you're like, am I supposed to not know who this is? And then here he goes. I didn't know if that was a sister transitioning to be a man.
00:35:46
box they_them
like transitioning to be a sister like oh okay so okay okay okay all right let's clean this up let's clean this up
00:35:52
jim_phoenix
I didn't know because there was so many years that fast forward it, which I kind of got like, Oh, this must be the kids, one of them. And the other one's the sister, but that's not the sister I remember, but that's also not the little kid I remember.
00:36:06
jim_phoenix
So who would the fuck knows at this point who these people really are. So you see my confusion. I was like, is this person transgendered? Is this person, what the fuck? I didn't know.
00:36:14
box they_them
so you have no idea anything.
00:36:15
jim_phoenix
I don't know. I have no idea who the fuck they are. I don't know.
00:36:19
box they_them
All right, so, okay, so, so the, okay, so the storyline is not great.
00:36:19
jim_phoenix
I don't know. Maybe it's just like, not the person to watch this movie.
00:36:28
jim_phoenix
but the The storyline is flashback footage video from 1984 shows, 14th birthday party, young Corey and his twin sister. Oh, the twins, Jesse, Jesse.
00:36:40
box they_them
Yeah, twin sister.
00:36:42
jim_phoenix
And apparently normal scenario, including Corey's older sibling Fiona and his half brother Rex. Oh, I didn't, I didn't know they're fucking However, also is present as Pamela, who wields secret power in plain view and tries to suck Corey's finger after being pricked with...
00:37:00
box they_them
Is that does that say that there?
00:37:01
jim_phoenix
Nah, I'm making that part up. Actually, here he goes.
00:37:04
box they_them
Okay.
00:37:06
jim_phoenix
However, also present as Pamela, who wields secret power in plain view, being in reality a reality of which and the head of a murderous occult church that holds this family in its grips.
00:37:19
jim_phoenix
Flashing forward. we meet these characters 30 years later on the occasion of the Pickarach death. Also called dad. When the family's tensions are rising over the substantial estate he is leaving behind.
00:37:32
jim_phoenix
Cory and his boyfriend Lars, oh I guess that was Cory getting a blowjob, arrive at the sketch of the secluded house in the New Forest and in New Forest, England, not far from his father's camel or parrot.
00:37:37
box they_them
Yeah, good for him. Good for him.
00:37:45
box they_them
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:37:46
jim_phoenix
Our Pamela is taking up this. is No, I'm gonna fucking finish this shit. Oh, my Christ. It's a paragraph box.
00:37:51
box they_them
Yeah, no.
00:37:51
jim_phoenix
Oh, fuck it. I'm invested. in No, I'm fucking invested.
00:37:54
box they_them
Okay, okay, okay, story time.
00:37:55
jim_phoenix
There you go. I'm even trying to do this proper. Corrigan is largely. Pamela is taking the rest of it. She is close to death and is supported by Rex, who is now access or constant companion fellow practitioner in the dark occult arts.
00:38:09
jim_phoenix
Fiona arrives after decades of emancipation from the family. That's weird. and brings with her memories of the childhood that Cori has expressed for so long. Memories of the outrageous violence and the cult mysteries that Pamela has orchestrated in order to attain the family's great wealth and privilege.
00:38:28
jim_phoenix
Back in the current day, oh fuck me, Pamela, I wish I was making this up, Pamela begins her ascent.
00:38:30
box they_them
Oh my gosh. Is this a trailer?
00:38:36
jim_phoenix
Remember guys, I didn't ask you, you asked me to review. so Uh, Pamela begins the sent into new life cycle, which renews the pressure on Corey and refocuses him on the dark path that she once faded for him.
00:38:52
box they_them
Okay, there's too many people.
00:38:53
jim_phoenix
Fuck me.
00:38:54
box they_them
Too many people.
00:38:55
jim_phoenix
ah No, it goes on.
00:38:55
box they_them
Too many cooks in this kitchen.
00:38:57
jim_phoenix
No, he fights hypnotic forces that pit Lars and Rex against them, and fights for his life as he tries to regain his natural birthright and head the new family alongside Pamela.
00:39:08
jim_phoenix
Wait, Pamela's a sister? No, Pamela's like the cult person?
00:39:11
box they_them
Okay, Pamela's the mom, like the mom.
00:39:13
jim_phoenix
the The mom figure? Okay, Jesus, so wait, the new cult figures are doing it.
00:39:15
box they_them
Yeah.
00:39:19
jim_phoenix
And I watched the movie, guys. Okay, at the last moment.
00:39:22
box they_them
And you're gaining more information.
00:39:24
jim_phoenix
Yeah, I'm trying to get this from this IMDDB storyline, by the way, I'm not making this up.
00:39:29
box they_them
Yeah.
00:39:29
jim_phoenix
And the last moment, will Pamela allow Corey back into the fold of a dark church to inherit the witch? Or has she been manipulating all along for own even more evil ends?
00:39:42
jim_phoenix
Drama horror.
00:39:42
box they_them
It's a lot.
00:39:44
jim_phoenix
The taglines are family relationships and evil.
00:39:49
box they_them
oh moon
00:39:49
jim_phoenix
It's an hour 25 and 25 minutes of me reading that fucking thing.
00:39:53
box they_them
Yeah.
00:39:55
jim_phoenix
ah So, you know, but yes.
00:39:55
box they_them
See, this is why I mean Titan compact.
00:39:58
jim_phoenix
And that's part of the issue. I honestly, God, I'm not. So, yeah, obviously we do an act when we get on the show, but I really did not know what it was a game of that game of Thrones is a House of Dragon movement when they jump forward in time, like, oh, what the fuck is this now?
00:40:17
box they_them
Yeah it would and honestly that's that's a jarring thing to do to just be like I'm a little kid and it's like now I'm getting a blowjob.
00:40:18
jim_phoenix
It took me more than a minute.
00:40:28
jim_phoenix
I'm getting a blow job, motherfucker. Look at me. And I'm going to be good or evil. And the guy's second mind is going to be good. eve I don't know. but It's like, uh, I'm
00:40:35
box they_them
I think it would be hilarious if it was like he's going on this like dark path and stuff like that and like his boyfriend is just still his like boyfriend like hi honey okay good luck.
00:40:46
jim_phoenix
gonna go kill some motherfuckers for you later on. Yeah.
00:40:49
box they_them
your Your family's weird, just enjoy, bye, I'm not gonna be part of that.
00:40:50
jim_phoenix
So yeah. And and that's the thing. If you're watching a movie. versus reading what I just read, they don't go together in my mind.
00:41:03
jim_phoenix
I was like, oh, wait.
00:41:03
box they_them
Yeah.
00:41:04
jim_phoenix
So the boyfriend was against him, but also Pamela's evil. So they should be against him as well. And she didn't seduce him as this other guy and the other fucking dude.
00:41:14
box they_them
And then the kids, and then Fiona.
00:41:14
jim_phoenix
And it was parallel. And that, yeah. And apparently Fiona is still a woman. But I don't know that because why would you not show me the fucking twin sister that they focused on for their first fucking couple of scenes?
00:41:30
box they_them
okay okay so it's it's you're not we're okay all right you're not a fan not a fan right right or the director gave them the wrong direction you know like yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:41:32
jim_phoenix
oh Remember, I'm not a fan, I'll tell you that. But remember when we talked about things we don't know if sometimes the acting gets shit on because people think, oh, it's just acting, but it could be like the sound is wrong, the fully is wrong, you know? Right.
00:41:53
jim_phoenix
Yeah, I think there were several systemic errors.
00:41:54
box they_them
that's what okay so you think you think that the acting the actors themselves are not bad or anything like that it's just yeah that's fair yeah sometimes it does and sometimes it does not
00:41:56
jim_phoenix
That's why.
00:42:01
jim_phoenix
I think they did the best they fucking could. I think that's what it is. They did the best they could with their their shit. And the writer and director also stars in it, which put a pin in that later on. And it doesn't. I'm so sorry, guys. It does not work out.
00:42:18
jim_phoenix
ah
00:42:21
jim_phoenix
Yeah, there's parts where the acting is plastic as fuck. But you can see where it's probably their first acting job. And the directing is just not there.
00:42:32
box they_them
Yeah.
00:42:34
jim_phoenix
The editing is really not as good.
00:42:37
box they_them
I'm gonna look it up. Crado Alexander?
00:42:41
jim_phoenix
Look at the ah IMDB.
00:42:43
box they_them
I'm gonna look this up.
00:42:44
jim_phoenix
If you scroll down to the storyline, but and you see like the AI I don't know. Maybe it's not AI, but it looks like AI written block of text.
00:42:52
box they_them
I'm just seeing what else he's done. Oh, he was a drag queen in Oz.
00:42:59
jim_phoenix
Nice.
00:43:00
box they_them
He was a gay mobster in the porn identity crisis. So he, there's a, there's a thrum.
00:43:08
jim_phoenix
Yeah. And this is this is the other the the weird thing that ah I guess is my fucking is is my business symbol.
00:43:19
jim_phoenix
I guess I can talk about it. They also wanted us to fill out a questionnaire to do interviews with them. I'm like, no, like I don't do that for Dan Aykroyd.
00:43:28
box they_them
The questionnaire, like what kind of questionnaire?
00:43:32
jim_phoenix
I'm not going to do it for you guys.
00:43:34
box they_them
Kind of questionnaire?
00:43:36
jim_phoenix
Like I submit like I was like, I was doing the whole, the polite thing. Like, Oh yeah. If you guys want to do interviews too, that'd be great.
00:43:43
box they_them
Yeah.
00:43:44
jim_phoenix
And like, oh, great, here's a fucking list of stuff to fill out. I'm like, paperwork now, fuck off. Sorry, just know that that's party file right there.
00:43:52
box they_them
Yeah.
00:43:52
jim_phoenix
You asked me to do something I don't need to fill out a fucking job application at this point. So that left a bad taste.
00:44:00
box they_them
Alright, so what, what?
00:44:02
jim_phoenix
And then the movie itself left a bad taste.
00:44:02
box they_them
Yeah.
00:44:06
jim_phoenix
And yeah, and that paragraph I read from IMDB left a bad taste.
00:44:07
box they_them
Lots of bad tastes all around.
00:44:14
jim_phoenix
I like supporting.
00:44:14
box they_them
That's fair.
00:44:16
jim_phoenix
I really wish to give this as hour, 25 minutes. I think the runtime is fine.
00:44:21
box they_them
Yeah. I think it's just, it's a lot.
00:44:23
jim_phoenix
It's just didn't know what the, it's just a lot in the end. We said Titan concise does not necessarily mean a longer short movie, but it should have a fucking direction.
00:44:31
box they_them
No, it just means the pacing. Yeah. The pacing is, is good. All right. So what would you, what would you rate it then?
00:44:41
jim_phoenix
That's hard. It really is. I don't want to shit on movies.
00:44:43
box they_them
Yeah.
00:44:46
jim_phoenix
At the same time, I have to give a rating.
00:44:47
box they_them
Right.
00:44:49
jim_phoenix
It's not a one.
00:44:50
box they_them
Yeah.
00:44:50
jim_phoenix
I think it has to be complete repulsively dog shit to be a one. it ah I mean,
00:44:55
box they_them
Yeah. It has to be pretty, pretty bad.
00:45:00
jim_phoenix
countable haul costs is a negative rating, you know, but it would be a one ish or 0.5.
00:45:03
box they_them
Yeah, yeah. You would probably say the Vivich is like a one maybe for you.
00:45:08
jim_phoenix
No, the vivish is not bad.
00:45:10
box they_them
Okay.
00:45:10
jim_phoenix
It's just not horror.
00:45:12
box they_them
No, it's four.
00:45:13
jim_phoenix
ah The only thing horrible about it is people's opinion is horror. ah I give this a 2.2.
00:45:22
box they_them
Okay.
00:45:23
jim_phoenix
I was gonna go 2.5, but that's too high and two is too low.
00:45:26
box they_them
Okay.
00:45:26
jim_phoenix
2.2 is fair.
00:45:27
box they_them
Okay. Okay.
00:45:28
jim_phoenix
2.2, you know what?
00:45:28
box they_them
Okay.
00:45:30
jim_phoenix
Fuck it, maybe just me. Maybe it's just fucking not Jimbo's day to watch this stuff.
00:45:34
box they_them
And, and that could very well be, I mean, all art is subjective, you know, but I mean, this isn't, yeah, exactly.
00:45:40
jim_phoenix
Check it out yourselves.
00:45:42
box they_them
Check it out yourself, see what it is. Inherit the Witch, brought to you by Blue Jobs and, and Time Draft.
00:45:46
jim_phoenix
and Inherit at the witch.
00:45:49
jim_phoenix
Blow jobs and time travel. All right, Box, give me your left behind.
00:45:55
box they_them
Okay, it's Left One Alive.
00:45:57
jim_phoenix
I ate you last. Oh, you eat last.
00:45:59
box they_them
ah I, what?
00:46:00
jim_phoenix
What? Left one alive.
00:46:02
box they_them
Left One Alive, and i i and I apologize to everybody because I keep getting that mixed up.
00:46:03
jim_phoenix
Okay, left one alive.
00:46:10
jim_phoenix
my left behind, which is not even a fucking movie.
00:46:12
box they_them
it's a loved mufre i I know.
00:46:13
jim_phoenix
It's not even a fucking movie you're getting mixed up with. You're making a new title up in this movie.
00:46:17
box they_them
I know I am making a new title. I i get it. And the funny thing is, ah okay, so with HorrorVer,
00:46:24
jim_phoenix
Horror?
00:46:24
box they_them
Um, so many times the title has nothing fucking to do with the the movie, like, it has nothing, you know, it's the stupid title, like, and it, right, and it, that is, that is the premise.
00:46:25
jim_phoenix
Uh-huh.
00:46:34
jim_phoenix
Like Ouija House is actually the name of the movie. like And it is the fucking movie. Right.
00:46:42
box they_them
So I like that.
00:46:43
jim_phoenix
A Sharknado is a Sharknado. Ouija House, Ouija House.
00:46:44
box they_them
Yes.
00:46:45
jim_phoenix
But then you have...
00:46:45
box they_them
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, the, you know, and I love giallo so like the house that drips blood, you know, like things like that that's great because then I can remember it as like a, you know, horror, you know, but like the uninvited the this and that like, there's so many words just like, and I love the uninvited with the cat, but I have not seen the other uninvited but anyway, left one alive is actually
00:46:55
jim_phoenix
Right.
00:46:58
jim_phoenix
But they're invited.
00:47:07
jim_phoenix
Wait. Oh, I'm thinking of the strangers. What's the uninvited?
00:47:11
box they_them
The Strangers, well it doesn't matter. So Left One Alive is actually a really good title because that is the premise of the movie.
00:47:18
jim_phoenix
Oh, nice.
00:47:19
box they_them
um So it's it's it's a very interesting movie in the fact that it's a little bit horror, it's a little bit drama, it's a little bit comedy, it's a little bit um psychological.
00:47:31
jim_phoenix
Rock and roll.
00:47:34
box they_them
It's just like a whole bunch of little bits all put in together. So basically our main character, Sarah, survived a monster massacre when she went out with her friends and they were partying and having a camp out and things like that.
00:47:45
jim_phoenix
Monster massacre or so like monsters were killing people Okay, just making sure I like is this like a new terminal, okay Ah They left her behind
00:47:48
box they_them
Monster massacre.
00:47:51
box they_them
Like monsters came out and were killing people. Yes. No, monsters came out, they were killing people. And they left her alive, so left one alive.
00:48:06
box they_them
And and basically, yeah, they left her behind and also alive.
00:48:08
jim_phoenix
A little bit thinner.
00:48:10
box they_them
um And, and honestly, that's where the movie starts. And I kind of like that, like, because we get so many horror movies where it's like, this is the big thing of, you know, surviving this this thing.
00:48:15
jim_phoenix
Oh.
00:48:24
box they_them
And that's really where her story kind of begins, because she's this nobody really, who suddenly gets, you know, people are telling her that she's crazy, that she she imagined it, that she killed them, you know, all this stuff, she has to deal with that.
00:48:26
jim_phoenix
Wow.
00:48:34
jim_phoenix
how about
00:48:39
box they_them
And then when People kind of do start believing her. A movie gets made um from her story. It's about legalities kind of of that.
00:48:48
jim_phoenix
Oh shit.
00:48:50
box they_them
like yeah it's this huge yeah it's very it's a very interesting premise and like i said it is there's a lot of humorous beats in it that you don't expect like i caught myself laughing quite a few times where i'm just like oh that's that's really funny even in this drama like dramedy horror type movie um
00:48:50
jim_phoenix
This sounds interesting.
00:48:59
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:49:10
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:49:12
box they_them
And then, she of course, she starts questioning herself. um She starts questioning the world which she lives in. and And then she basically decides to start trying to hunt these creatures, trying to to go back to the source and face these fears because it's starting to ruin her relationships.
00:49:31
jim_phoenix
and Oh, wow.
00:49:33
box they_them
So it's it's a very interesting promise.
00:49:35
jim_phoenix
That's deep.
00:49:37
box they_them
um There were bits that it's like, okay, they probably could have cut this and that. um But for the most part, it it kept surprising me because obviously you and I watch a lot of movies.
00:49:49
jim_phoenix
Well, one of us does.
00:49:50
box they_them
um
00:49:52
jim_phoenix
The other one reviews the same amount of movies.
00:49:53
box they_them
ah one of us ah yeah and One of us watches the trailers.
00:49:56
jim_phoenix
but does not, ah you I wish, watch the entire trailer.
00:49:58
box they_them
um
00:50:01
box they_them
um So, you know, obviously we watch a lot of movies.
00:50:03
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:50:05
box they_them
There's a lot of tropes.
00:50:05
jim_phoenix
yeah
00:50:06
box they_them
There's a lot of like, and as much as I love tropes, I love trope breakers because it is nice to see a movie where I don't know where it's going.
00:50:11
jim_phoenix
Right.
00:50:15
box they_them
I don't know what's going to happen, you know?
00:50:16
jim_phoenix
We'd be free wheeling.
00:50:18
box they_them
And, um you know, the ending, I was completely not expecting in the least.
00:50:24
jim_phoenix
Really?
00:50:26
box they_them
um And it was it was funny and it was also a bit heartfelt. And I wasn't expecting that either. um I did get to see this, like I said, at Motor City Nightmares.
00:50:39
box they_them
I got to meet the director who came out he and I got to meet the main star, Kalyn Sams.
00:50:41
jim_phoenix
so for cool.
00:50:46
box they_them
So I got to see them. I got to ask them questions about how he made the movie. um One of the, of course, my big questions was like,
00:50:51
jim_phoenix
is This is
00:50:54
box they_them
You know, you used a lot of practical effects, like all of it was, and he was like, all of it's practical effects. I'm like, and I liked that. And I'm like, you know what? And he's like, well, CGI is expensive and we can, we can create these things ourselves.
00:51:05
jim_phoenix
Is it? Wait, wait, wait. CGI is more expensive than practical? In 2024?
00:51:12
box they_them
According to him, yes, he would much rather do practical.
00:51:13
jim_phoenix
Oh, wow. Shit.
00:51:15
box they_them
So like the monster designs, the monster creatures and stuff like that, that was all made basically through.
00:51:20
jim_phoenix
Did Phil make this one, too?
00:51:24
jim_phoenix
Like, oh, no, it's just more expensive. Not because I bought a bunch of clay in 1982. I'm making these fucking clay monsters now.
00:51:31
box they_them
Yeah, poor Phil, but he made it great. He he made it good.
00:51:34
jim_phoenix
Oh my God, Maga is fucking fantastic.
00:51:34
box they_them
and It's.
00:51:36
jim_phoenix
So if this one, it goes along the sides of practical, which is going back to be goodness, right?
00:51:41
box they_them
Yes, yeah, it's it's practical.
00:51:42
jim_phoenix
That's your jam. My jam too.
00:51:44
box they_them
That's my jam.
00:51:44
jim_phoenix
Yeah. I agree.
00:51:46
box they_them
Again, with my jam, it's like it's nice to see um somebody who is alive, who is the survivor, who has to tell this tale.
00:51:55
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:51:55
box they_them
this completely crazy tale where her boyfriend doesn't believe her and her sister tries to believe her.
00:52:01
jim_phoenix
A lot of ghost lighting or gas lighting.
00:52:02
box they_them
But yeah, well, it goes lighting.
00:52:04
jim_phoenix
Sorry.
00:52:05
box they_them
Yeah.
00:52:05
jim_phoenix
There's no ghost lighting.
00:52:06
box they_them
Oh, that's not even that.
00:52:06
jim_phoenix
It's a horror movie motherfuckers.
00:52:07
box they_them
It's like, you know, I support you, but i I don't believe you. And that's a hard thing, you know, for anybody to have to go through. So
00:52:16
jim_phoenix
And she goes back.
00:52:16
box they_them
There were a lot of fun shots, um the camera work, there were a lot of cool angles or shots that they made that you can see that there was effort taken into it.
00:52:26
jim_phoenix
In an ankle shots.
00:52:26
box they_them
um
00:52:29
box they_them
I think there might've been one, to be honest.
00:52:31
jim_phoenix
You got really excited like, oh, there might be one.
00:52:33
box they_them
I think there might've been one, because I remember, I didn't take notes, I should've took notes, but I kind of like elbowed my friend like, whoa.
00:52:41
jim_phoenix
Fucking ankle shot. Look at this shit. This is Kino.
00:52:43
box they_them
I think there might've been, maybe not, but I'll have to watch again. I do want to watch again. I do want to put it on the website as well um because it was fun to meet a director because he was going around.
00:52:54
box they_them
he was He's not from Michigan. He was making going around to all the circuits to promote the movie.
00:52:57
jim_phoenix
Really? Were they?
00:53:00
jim_phoenix
You know where they're from?
00:53:02
box they_them
I don't. I think it was down south.
00:53:03
jim_phoenix
Is it states? of But it's states though.
00:53:05
box they_them
It was, yeah, it was the States. It was the States, but I think it was more Southern.
00:53:06
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:53:09
jim_phoenix
Oh, good for them.
00:53:09
box they_them
Um, and, and again, it was just, it wasn't a fun movie, a sad movie sometimes. Like she gets involved with the person who's portraying her in the movie.
00:53:21
box they_them
It's very interesting. Cause then it's like this weird kind of psychological thing. Um,
00:53:29
jim_phoenix
Who did that before?
00:53:32
box they_them
huh?
00:53:33
jim_phoenix
thence Didn't we watch a movie where the person playing the actor, like, oh, you're playing me and they ended up together for a while? Because they wanted to see how like how close they could be together.
00:53:42
box they_them
i don't I don't remember, but possibly.
00:53:46
jim_phoenix
Shit, was that The Simpsons? That might have been Simpsons. I don't remember that does, but it does sound very cool and okay.
00:53:51
box they_them
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that goes on in it, which I liked.
00:53:59
jim_phoenix
correct me if I'm miss like, if I'm missing hearing this one, if she has a traumatic experience, no one really believes her.
00:54:02
box they_them
Yeah. yeah
00:54:08
jim_phoenix
And then she fights for, and like, Oh, now we believe you sort of kind of maybe. And then she decides, fuck this. I'm going to take back my life by ah attacking the root causes of her trauma head on.
00:54:22
box they_them
Mm hmm. Yes, yeah.
00:54:25
jim_phoenix
ah psychological right there, man. That's a good second part of the underlying movie.
00:54:27
box they_them
Yep.
00:54:29
jim_phoenix
I like that part.
00:54:30
box they_them
Yeah, and and to be honest, again, it kind of flips it on its head to when she goes there. So I don't want to give away too much but
00:54:38
jim_phoenix
I'm the fuck. I did kill my boyfriends. Maybe I don't know. that I didn't watch the fucking movie.
00:54:44
box they_them
Uh, allegedly, no, I'm just kidding.
00:54:45
jim_phoenix
No, allegedly.
00:54:47
box they_them
Um, but yeah, so it is very, it was a neat, it was a fresh perspective and it was just a neat movie. It has not been distributed yet.
00:54:57
box they_them
So they're still waiting for the distributor.
00:54:58
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:55:00
box they_them
Um, but I hope, I hope so.
00:55:01
jim_phoenix
Shutter.
00:55:05
box they_them
I hope it gets on shutter, you know?
00:55:08
jim_phoenix
Yeah. Oh, I have to make an apology to the PR department of shutter. I think you're all very wonderful. And not just because you sent me a bunch of Joe Bob Briggs stuff, but I always thought you were wonderful.
00:55:18
box they_them
Aww, that's nice.
00:55:20
jim_phoenix
Even before you sent me Joe Bob Briggs stuff, I was just, you know,
00:55:22
box they_them
Hey, I, I, I, I have shutter.
00:55:24
jim_phoenix
I like, I like Sean. I liked, I liked the original team and then, you know, when AMC came and shook things up, I didn't like take that off. So I don't think people, but I think Shutter is great.
00:55:33
box they_them
Well, I, yeah, it is.
00:55:36
jim_phoenix
Shutter is a great service. And I think that'll be a perfect place for that movie. It would be Shutter.
00:55:42
box they_them
I think so too.
00:55:44
jim_phoenix
I think Shutter is smart.
00:55:44
box they_them
Yep, so I'm hoping so.
00:55:45
jim_phoenix
They got some AMC money throwing them away, man. What would you give the movie out of five?
00:55:51
box they_them
I would it a four, too.
00:55:53
jim_phoenix
Four, nice, okay.
00:55:54
box they_them
Yeah, like I said, the only things that I would say is like, um there are a few things that they could have probably clipped that probably didn't need to be in the movie. But, um, but it picks up the pace again, like when she she kind of gets a purpose.
00:56:10
box they_them
So, um,
00:56:11
jim_phoenix
There we go.
00:56:12
box they_them
I mean, that's kind of like the only kind of complaint I have. Practical, the the monsters were cool, they were neat, they were creative. Yeah, it was fun.
00:56:22
jim_phoenix
Oh, I can't wait. I want to see this now. that's I'm kind of really jealous that you got to see it like that.
00:56:27
box they_them
Yeah.
00:56:27
jim_phoenix
Okay, you know what? Usually I say I can't beat, I can beat a four this time. home I can beat a four with my last movie.
00:56:32
box they_them
Oh. Okay.
00:56:36
jim_phoenix
A movie I've been waiting for, oh my God, almost two months to talk about since John Con. And I've got the comic book prequel right here.
00:56:47
box they_them
Oh, Rologator 2!
00:56:48
jim_phoenix
roller gator five in 3d roller gator goes to space yeah define fucking jason and and or freddy and or pinhead i can't remember who else was in space the leprechaun came up there yeah no it's none other than clone cops and i saw this at jankon i got to talk to philip and danny from the the writers and
00:56:49
box they_them
That's awesome! Cool! Mmm.
00:56:53
box they_them
I mean, that's the logical exit.
00:56:59
box they_them
I think the labricon might have gone into space.
00:57:15
jim_phoenix
You know, Denny is the director and Philip is one of the clones.
00:57:17
box they_them
Brag.
00:57:18
jim_phoenix
I know. I got to toss them today, so I still have this all fresh in my mind. I love the movie. I, as press for Gen Con, we get a lot of emails for, come check out Boof 85, come check out this movie.
00:57:35
box they_them
Mm hmm.
00:57:37
jim_phoenix
ah Okay. And my schedule was slammed. I was supposed to be at a game. I'm not gonna mention the game's name. Like, oh, go check out this fucking game. And they had rules of stuff on the but the outside wall of the game, but there weren't rules to the game.
00:57:55
jim_phoenix
They're like, no no touching people.
00:57:56
box they_them
yeah
00:57:57
jim_phoenix
I'm like, what the fuck? And it kept going on, like, like oh man, I'm like, who the fuck's playing this game? But you have to tell them, basically, don't touch and like make their new comments and
00:58:06
box they_them
Obviously, things have happened before.
00:58:08
jim_phoenix
Yeah, a lot of fucking things. We took the whole entire goddamn wall up. I'm like ah like, I don't have time for this shit.
00:58:12
box they_them
Jesus. Wow.
00:58:16
jim_phoenix
If that's the rules just to get into your game, I can't wait to play this. No, we're good. And I ran into, it was fucking definitely nice wizard.
00:58:23
box they_them
It was not Twister. Not even Family Twister.
00:58:28
jim_phoenix
Yeah. And I ran into the the team for clone cops previously that day who took over the indie movie table at Gen Con to the point where I actually thought it was just their fucking table.
00:58:40
box they_them
Oh. Oh.
00:58:44
jim_phoenix
They were so good at promoting the movie. They grabbed bags. They got the swag here. He got clone cops there and the cast and crew are there and it's like, oh, it was fucking cool. It sounded like, my God, like,
00:58:55
jim_phoenix
The blood bank plus them is awesome. And so I'm like, fucking, I was so sorry. I'm like, I can't, why can't I have a, you know, doing some fucking thing for this one gaming thing. I can't be there that day, but you know, send me the link. I'll fucking check it out. and And it got to me and it got to me and it got to me. So I snuck in. I said, fuck this shit. I trashed. I didn't go to, I didn't review the game I was supposed to review. And I snuck into their film. It was packed.
00:59:24
box they_them
Oh.
00:59:24
jim_phoenix
It was packed. Now you have to understand at Gen Con, there's a couple thousand people doing shit. And most of that shit is gaming shit.
00:59:35
box they_them
Yeah, right.
00:59:35
jim_phoenix
They have movies. They have people come to your movie at Gen Con while it's competing with games and comic books.
00:59:39
box they_them
Yeah.
00:59:42
box they_them
ah ha Well, and honestly too, a movie is like an hour and a half like commitment.
00:59:43
jim_phoenix
That's huge.
00:59:48
jim_phoenix
Yeah, it eats up your fucking time. It absolutely does.
00:59:51
box they_them
Yeah.
00:59:52
jim_phoenix
And that's that was one of the things that there were some really strong movies this year at JonCon, and Clone Cops has definitely won the strong submissions. I'm gonna give you a before and after.
01:00:04
jim_phoenix
Okay, here we go.
01:00:06
box they_them
Okay.
01:00:06
jim_phoenix
This is me reading from IMDB, so there's no sleight of a fucking hand. A gang of outlaws defend their hideout until they discover a shocking secret about who they are and what they're up against.
01:00:19
jim_phoenix
Now it's a race against time as they look for a way to escape certain doom at the hands of the clone cops. The fucking end, short and fucking sweet. It sets it up and it works.
01:00:30
box they_them
yeah
01:00:30
jim_phoenix
Is it action comedy, sci-fi? I say this fits horror adjacent because I own the fucking business.
01:00:33
box they_them
Yeah.
01:00:38
jim_phoenix
No, I say it's horror adjacent because of the themes that they use in clone cops.
01:00:43
box they_them
Clones are weird.
01:00:45
jim_phoenix
And yeah, the concept of clones itself, they kind of set up as a, I'm trying not to spoil, will this spoil if I say, all right, I'm not going to even venture with how they set it up.
01:00:45
box they_them
Clones are...
01:00:56
jim_phoenix
Well, I'll just say the way they set up is clever and they could have done this as a straight comedy and it would work. It's like an hour, 25, hour-thirds more than that. But they go deeper into societal views of pandemic slash the post-pandemic would say what we've become as a society through TikTok and reality TV shows and shit like that.
01:01:21
box they_them
Okay, so it's like a social commentary on um social media.
01:01:22
jim_phoenix
And and yeah, it really is a social kind of social media for the last 20 years. I think that was a, you know, since survivor or MTV days, MTV stopped playing videos kind of thing.
01:01:39
jim_phoenix
That's kind of snowballs from there, but social media really passed forward. Tick tock generation, right?
01:01:44
box they_them
Okay, yeah.
01:01:45
jim_phoenix
And it goes into ownerships. And one of the things being owned is a fucking acting spectacular act.
01:01:53
box they_them
okay
01:01:54
jim_phoenix
It's spectacular acting. The effects are great. A lot of the effects are practical. A lot of the effects are practical. They're 3D printed for their helmets, which are marshmallow.
01:02:06
box they_them
What is, oh, the clone cap, the clone cap.
01:02:09
jim_phoenix
Yeah. The club cop helmet. Yeah. It's basically a a half naked a guy. Uh, they came out all naked and then they get like the uniform sprayed in and it's, it's very, it's very clever, very cool.
01:02:16
box they_them
Okay. Yeah.
01:02:20
jim_phoenix
And there's things, uh, let me see, the interview was already out. If you're listening to this, we taped it that same day, but, uh, this program will come out next week and the interview is coming out tomorrow.
01:02:32
jim_phoenix
So there you will remember for my interview, wink, wink, Hollywood magic that they shot this all at a location, a single location.
01:02:43
box they_them
Okay.
01:02:44
jim_phoenix
And just like one big fucking empty.
01:02:47
box they_them
That's very indie.
01:02:49
jim_phoenix
Yeah. Like using the budget, every inch of that budget is accounted for and not going over and they're cleaning up.
01:02:52
box they_them
Yep.
01:02:55
jim_phoenix
They had a screening at the Tennessee ah film festival. i I believe I'm getting one correctly that sold out.
01:03:02
box they_them
Okay.
01:03:05
box they_them
That's fantastic.
01:03:05
jim_phoenix
People could not fucking buy tickets to it. It sold out. And that is an amazing aspect of it. And I think this is what makes me excited about Indies. It makes me excited to go to festivals. It makes me excited to see just new stuff because we have smart writing with great acting and the editing and the effects and everything in it is just top notch.
01:03:36
jim_phoenix
And of course, what part of that comes through. And I think you had this experience with you're left behind.
01:03:44
box they_them
Yes, yes.
01:03:46
jim_phoenix
It's the passion of the movie maker going out directly and being very open with it and pushing it through because they know if they don't, who the fuck will.
01:03:58
box they_them
Yes, yep.
01:03:59
jim_phoenix
You could hire a PR team, but that's just a PR team at the end of the day. They're doing 25 other movies too.
01:04:05
box they_them
And it's a lot of work.
01:04:06
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
01:04:06
box they_them
It's a lot of work.
01:04:08
jim_phoenix
Yeah. And you they're believing in themselves and pushing themselves. And that's what the personality of the people and clone cops, the buy-in, it helps you get excited about it and have the buy-in.
01:04:19
box they_them
yeah
01:04:19
jim_phoenix
I hope they get there for the theatrical release that that they deserve, and I hope to see them screaming sometime soon.
01:04:25
box they_them
Yes.
01:04:27
jim_phoenix
I'd love to do another review of this later on. So that is my end cap, because yeah, I love this movie.
01:04:33
box they_them
You didn't read? Oh, so five, yeah.
01:04:36
jim_phoenix
I'm giving this a five. Five out of five kathoos. Five out of five kathoos. I love the movie, and I think part of the experience of loving this movie is I got to see it in the in a theater setting.
01:04:47
box they_them
Yeah. I think, I think that really makes a difference because I, I did get to see, it was in a theater per se.
01:04:50
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
01:04:53
jim_phoenix
Left behind, right?
01:04:55
box they_them
Yeah. Left one alive.
01:04:55
jim_phoenix
But it's a still, you know, yeah, it's a group setting with the bigger screen and the live action.
01:04:58
box they_them
Yes. With other people. And there is an excitement to that.
01:05:02
jim_phoenix
Yes.
01:05:03
box they_them
There is an excite. And that's why I said with the the first one milk and cereal, it's a good one to watch with friends because to have that, that community around you to excite you to the movie.
01:05:17
jim_phoenix
Do you think that and Cereal would be a good one to do conage au trois with? I forgot the fucking name of the show we didn't release because of issues.
01:05:27
box they_them
Well, I don't know, cuz Carnagetois, yeah, Carnagetois...
01:05:29
jim_phoenix
Streaming a streaming movie? Streaming a streaming movie that's about streaming?
01:05:34
box they_them
I don't know.
01:05:34
jim_phoenix
That's fucking meta.
01:05:36
box they_them
It's hard to tell, especially with Indy, cuz you don't want to step on anybody's toes too, you know?
01:05:40
jim_phoenix
Especially those motherfuckers are clones.
01:05:44
box they_them
Especially when they're cloned cops!
01:05:44
jim_phoenix
I don't want to step on those. Oh, fuck yes. The clone cops. And if if you are listening and you're like clone cops, where the fuck do I go to clone cops, movie.com. it's It's well worth it. Check it out. The poster is fun.
01:06:02
box they_them
The poster is really fun.
01:06:03
jim_phoenix
It's fucking
01:06:04
box they_them
I did see it.
01:06:06
jim_phoenix
a bit of a Freddie Mercury.
01:06:06
box they_them
I so i saw the trailer too, and that was really cute.
01:06:08
jim_phoenix
The trailers, is' it's all funny. it's It's all well done. And I'm not going to give too much of the interview away, but they only had four helmets printed out.
01:06:19
jim_phoenix
So the multiple clones you see, they're just really four fucking basic people because that's all they had the helmets for a while.
01:06:25
box they_them
That's amazing.
01:06:27
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
01:06:27
box they_them
That's amazing.
01:06:28
jim_phoenix
And they did a lot of labor of love. So five out of five kafus love the Indies. I think this is going to be the year for the year.
01:06:39
jim_phoenix
My God, it's almost over. This is going to be the decade for Indies, the decade for indie movie, because this shit's getting cheaper to make a movie.
01:06:40
box they_them
Yeah, it's over, I'm like, I'm like the year.
01:06:47
box they_them
It's getting cheaper.
01:06:48
jim_phoenix
It's it's yeah.
01:06:48
box they_them
And honestly too, I think you're right. Like most people do see like another movie and they're like, fuck, I could do that.
01:06:54
jim_phoenix
I can do this shit.
01:06:55
box they_them
Then do it. Okay. Well then fine. I'll fucking do it.
01:06:58
jim_phoenix
Damn right I can do this. And that's what, that's more the better, the more the better. If you want to, if you want to stream your movie somewhere that gets like 20 views, no, not a day, 20 views, give it to us.
01:07:12
jim_phoenix
We'll put that on fucking Health and Empty. I will be a new streaming service. Just our YouTube channel. Actually, Night of Living Dead and Nosferatu.
01:07:18
box they_them
We could...
01:07:22
jim_phoenix
I get king of some good hits on that.
01:07:23
box they_them
Yeah, no, i no doubt.
01:07:24
jim_phoenix
Yeah, I read through channel. Yeah.
01:07:27
box they_them
No doubt. um You know, and again, like we were talking about like before with um Evil Dud, you know, and and you you have you used to have to, you know, get cameras and certain lighting and get yelled at him.
01:07:28
jim_phoenix
So.
01:07:35
jim_phoenix
Evil dead.
01:07:40
jim_phoenix
And mud on them, get yelled at for mud. Make your own dollies.
01:07:43
box they_them
ah Yeah, but I mean, that's another thing is like, it is getting much cheaper to get working cameras that are very fast that, you know, you can add it very easily.
01:07:57
box they_them
Um, there's a lot of resources out there.
01:07:58
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
01:08:01
jim_phoenix
There's a ton, especially people are learning to turn to pandemic. I remember in Danny Boyle's film, what was it? 28 days later, the zombie film.
01:08:10
box they_them
Yeah. I'm so good.
01:08:12
jim_phoenix
I remember the big hubbub.
01:08:13
box they_them
Yeah.
01:08:13
jim_phoenix
I was talking to, um, a named up. Uh, Nick Groff and Mike Martinez and I are talking. Uh, but we were, we were talking about this when it came out because we're like, how's this going to look on the big screen?
01:08:27
jim_phoenix
Cause digital film back then looked like ass.
01:08:30
box they_them
Yeah.
01:08:31
jim_phoenix
And so it was a big fucking gamble. They put it in the fucking theatrical release on this. It's a fucking home video.
01:08:36
box they_them
Mm hmm.
01:08:37
jim_phoenix
and it worked well. And people are like, holy shit, we can just do it with a digital camera? Yeah, you can probably do it with a digital camera. I've seen that great movie that used two iPhones to record the entire fucking thing we reviewed before.
01:08:50
box they_them
Look, hey, hashtag Chad gets the X. It was all iPhones, all of it.
01:08:55
jim_phoenix
See, right there in... not to give Apple more props, but we have things in our pocket that, God, I just, I remember making movies for film festivals that we use like the VHS recorders for, like by all that shit and like, yeah.
01:09:12
box they_them
Yes. Yep. I had my, I had my dad's BHS recorder and I tried so hard to get into claymation and the filter bed. I love you, but it is not the medium for me.
01:09:25
jim_phoenix
Patience of it.
01:09:27
box they_them
The patience. I don't, I did not well. And I just would move it too fast and this and that. And I'm just like, this is not, this is not for me.
01:09:36
jim_phoenix
Yeah. And that's why it takes skills. And I think things like Phil's.
01:09:41
box they_them
Yeah.
01:09:43
jim_phoenix
Okay. What do clone cops, empire queen, mad God, I'm guessing my left behind.
01:09:46
box they_them
Okay.
01:09:52
jim_phoenix
No, what's, what's actually the title?
01:09:53
box they_them
Left one alone. Uh, life! Left one alive!
01:09:56
jim_phoenix
left one alone, left one alive, all have in common.
01:09:58
box they_them
one alive. Left one alive. I'm so sorry.
01:10:03
jim_phoenix
I don't know about milk and cereal, this might be not, I don't want to include that one.
01:10:05
box they_them
Uh, practical effects? I don't know.
01:10:08
jim_phoenix
Not only, good yeah, practical effects, but all labors of love.
01:10:11
box they_them
Oh yes, absolutely.
01:10:12
jim_phoenix
That by extremely talented people that can pull it off.
01:10:16
box they_them
Absolutely yeah.
01:10:17
jim_phoenix
Yeah. And I think that goes a long way. You don't always have to get, ah you have to get paid for a movie, I think, but you can also do things that are within your wheelhouse or learn new skill and trade and just really go out with it.
01:10:23
box they_them
Yes.
01:10:31
jim_phoenix
If you have a friend who is really good at sound and you're really good at film editing, fucking combine that shit. It'll be fine.
01:10:40
box they_them
You know, and, just and, and be willing to learn because like that was being a part of a podcast was like a dream of mine that I had for years. I don't know why now, but wamp, wamp, wamp.
01:10:50
jim_phoenix
I make dreams come true, motherfucker.
01:10:53
box they_them
But during the pandemic, like I was like, let's, let's do a podcast and here we are, you know, and yep,
01:10:56
jim_phoenix
And what do we learn? And this is true. you You have to do it to learn it. You have to learn those skills.
01:11:04
box they_them
yep.
01:11:04
jim_phoenix
We learn never to edit rule number one, never edit shit.
01:11:06
box they_them
Yeah. Look, look, I used to edit the shit out of mine. Like it would take me five to six hours, five to six hours.
01:11:11
jim_phoenix
Oh yeah.
01:11:14
jim_phoenix
Just pure. Yeah. I was talking about.
01:11:16
box they_them
I would take out the props and this and that.
01:11:18
jim_phoenix
The ums, the fan, the all that shit.
01:11:21
box they_them
Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
01:11:24
jim_phoenix
Yeah, fuck this.
01:11:24
box they_them
All of that.
01:11:25
jim_phoenix
Now Zen Caster can do most of that automatically.
01:11:29
box they_them
Yes.
01:11:29
jim_phoenix
They will cut the filler words out.
01:11:30
box they_them
Yep.
01:11:32
jim_phoenix
It's the AI like fucking press play.
01:11:34
box they_them
Yes, it's amazing.
01:11:36
jim_phoenix
You you have your soundboard has become, and that's only in three years less.
01:11:36
box they_them
But,
01:11:41
box they_them
right? Yeah, it's become much, much more advanced and practical to use.
01:11:43
jim_phoenix
It's yeah.
01:11:48
box they_them
um Same with ah video editing and things like that.
01:11:48
jim_phoenix
There's no excuses.
01:11:50
box they_them
Like it, it, it takes work. Don't get me wrong. It does take a lot of work, but you know, a lot of that time that work is worth it.
01:11:53
jim_phoenix
Shit, no shit, yeah.
01:12:01
jim_phoenix
And the more you fuck up and the more you have to edit out, the more you're like, God damn it, I'll never do this on air.
01:12:06
box they_them
Right, right.
01:12:08
jim_phoenix
If I ever see a guest, I'm gonna fucking stop him right there. Because I know I'm gonna spend like another 25 minutes editing that shit out then.
01:12:15
box they_them
Yep, exactly.
01:12:16
jim_phoenix
you become very aware of what not to do. It was just kind of cool.
01:12:20
box they_them
Yes.
01:12:21
jim_phoenix
So yeah, indie people, if you don't have a PR rep, send the shit our way.
01:12:23
box they_them
Indeed.
01:12:26
jim_phoenix
We'll review it. Honest to fuck.
01:12:28
box they_them
Yeah, what's your email address?
01:12:28
jim_phoenix
I'll have you on my email address. Fuck you dot.com.
01:12:32
box they_them
Yeah.
01:12:33
jim_phoenix
That's my fucking email address.
01:12:34
box they_them
No.
01:12:34
jim_phoenix
I ain't getting mine. I'm not getting my email.
01:12:36
box they_them
For the, for Haunted MTL, if they, if people are interested.
01:12:39
jim_phoenix
Oh Jesus Christ. Sincerely just hood us up on socials. The only email address we have is mine.
01:12:44
box they_them
Okay. Uh, yeah, you asked me if I wanted one and I said no.
01:12:48
jim_phoenix
Fine, go to Jim Phoenix at hauntedmtl.com. That's my email address.
01:12:52
box they_them
Okay.
01:12:52
jim_phoenix
That's the only one we have.
01:12:54
box they_them
We also have, like you said, socials, we're on Insta, we're on Facebook.
01:12:58
jim_phoenix
Insta, Facebook now.
01:12:59
box they_them
for
01:13:01
jim_phoenix
We are on threads. We are no longer on X because I just couldn't abide that shit anymore.
01:13:07
box they_them
Yay. Yay.
01:13:10
jim_phoenix
And YouTube, YouTube's a big one now too.
01:13:10
box they_them
Yeah. Yeah, YouTube as well.
01:13:13
jim_phoenix
Trying to grow that nicely.
01:13:16
box they_them
Yeah.
01:13:16
jim_phoenix
Give a shout out. If you really want to drop a line, Jim Phoenix, I'll help them out to y'all.com. It all fits out. I'm gonna spam your ass anyways, or not spam you, but you know, I'll filter you out as I do anything else.
01:13:26
box they_them
Yeah.
01:13:28
jim_phoenix
All right, nice show. We did a lot of indie stuff today and we did mostly great indie works.
01:13:29
box they_them
I did.
01:13:33
jim_phoenix
A lot of great indie shit. I'm excited. Next time's Alien though.
01:13:38
box they_them
Yeah, next time is Alien.
01:13:39
jim_phoenix
The one that gave me nightmares as a kid.
01:13:40
box they_them
Aliens.
01:13:42
jim_phoenix
That still does.
01:13:42
box they_them
an alien three And and 4.
01:13:45
jim_phoenix
Three, four, are we doing Alien versus Predator?
01:13:49
box they_them
Maybe. I love to see words streaming.
01:13:52
jim_phoenix
Okay, I can give a mention to Free League's Alien role-playing game.
01:13:56
box they_them
Oh, that's true.
01:13:56
jim_phoenix
It's being redone for second edition of Kickstarter right now, and well, yeah, that's pretty cool.
01:13:59
box they_them
Oh, nice.
01:14:01
jim_phoenix
I love Free League anyways. And then the Alien VR game that's gonna scare the shit out of me. Can't wait for that heart attack.
01:14:07
box they_them
oh my god yeah no that's good luck with that what i'm gonna plug is the thing that we've been talking about go out and oh yeah okay whatever yeah that might plug though so again like just google what kind of film festivals are in your area like
01:14:11
jim_phoenix
Yeah, I don't know if I want that right now, but I'm gonna try. So what do you want to plug? What are you going to plug?
01:14:22
jim_phoenix
Oh, who cares? Jimbo made up beer. That's your plug, Jimbo. I don't like, I don't like making a beer in a while.
01:14:35
jim_phoenix
Dot com. What kind of Phil Festers are your area.com?
01:14:39
box they_them
No, yeah, yeah.
01:14:39
jim_phoenix
There's a name of the new movie.
01:14:40
box they_them
Just Google. Just Google.
01:14:42
jim_phoenix
Just Google it.
01:14:43
box they_them
Google it. But go to film festivals, you know, like
01:14:44
jim_phoenix
Off the visas. Yeah.
01:14:47
box they_them
They're a fun place to go. You get to see cool movies. You sometimes get to meet directors and actors and people that are into in the industry. And it supports indie films. you know It isn't important, especially within horror, for us to keep these indie films because they're the things, they're the voice of the people. ah Horror especially is the voice I feel of the people. And especially when it comes to indie, like you said,
01:15:15
box they_them
they are This is their babies. This is their idea and their dream that they have fought for.
01:15:17
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
01:15:21
box they_them
So go ahead, check it out, see what's in your area. I know there's a few coming up I think in spring for me that I'm looking forward to checking out.
01:15:32
jim_phoenix
Springtime has sprung. And speaking of small in independent festivals, i guess well I guess it's not really a small independent festival, but
01:15:41
box they_them
Why are you saying it like this?
01:15:46
jim_phoenix
ah Joe Bob's drive in Jamboree in Las Vegas, October 4th to 5th, 2024 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Check it out. He's got Rhonda Sheer, Bernke Stevens, Spelenguly, the new, new, new? No, the new, new one?
01:16:04
jim_phoenix
Leanna Quigley, Michelle Bower, Felicia Rose, Dave Sheridan, and I'm not sure if I'm saying this a little unknown guy, so I apologize if I mispronounce this name. John Carp, Cape Carp, Carp, like the ah guy who built stuff, Carpenter, John Carpenter.
01:16:29
box they_them
Oh, John, didn't he do like scream or something?
01:16:34
jim_phoenix
I did some kind of indie stuff, I don't know.
01:16:36
box they_them
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:37
jim_phoenix
ah have I think he's very busy around Halloween time. No, John motherfucking Carpeters being there too, yeah.
01:16:40
box they_them
Is he?
01:16:43
box they_them
Oh, I think he was in Aliens, but in the back.
01:16:46
jim_phoenix
He was in the back of the alien, he was, watch, look at his, I do feel like, holy shit, no, Fox is right.
01:16:54
jim_phoenix
Yeah, holy fuck, man.
01:16:55
box they_them
No, he was not. But he had things to do with aliens. He did, like one movie.
01:17:00
jim_phoenix
The thing.
01:17:01
box they_them
Yeah.
01:17:02
jim_phoenix
He did a thing thing. So go check it out.
01:17:04
box they_them
The theme.
01:17:04
jim_phoenix
Joe Bob Briggs is stuff, uh, September, October 4th to whatever I said, Las Vegas. I think the six check it out. Las Vegas itself and October is nice.
01:17:16
jim_phoenix
West wind drive in as it still stands.
01:17:16
box they_them
Yes. It's spooky season.
01:17:21
jim_phoenix
Spooky, spooky, spooky, spookies. I can't wait. And if you are anywhere in Toronto, T and each house got a fucking event.
01:17:29
box they_them
Oh,
01:17:30
jim_phoenix
ah Unfortunately, why I'm in fucking Italy and Prague, but.
01:17:33
box they_them
oh oh, no. Oh, ah no, I'm in Italy eating pasta.
01:17:38
jim_phoenix
I know, but here it is. Here it is. Here it is.
01:17:41
box they_them
Oh, no.
01:17:42
jim_phoenix
I don't know. I'm like Florence, Florence, even now.
01:17:44
box they_them
Cappuccino.
01:17:45
jim_phoenix
Fucking boss.
01:17:47
box they_them
Oh, my God.
01:17:48
jim_phoenix
I but it made me jealous. Like, oh, I want to be there too. Check them out. Go Google some of the stuff boxes, right? Go find your own freak and let it fly.
01:17:57
box they_them
ah
01:17:58
jim_phoenix
And if you do like the movies we said, give their people a shout out.
01:17:59
box they_them
Yes.
01:18:03
jim_phoenix
People need to hear it behalf of myself.
01:18:04
box they_them
Yes, left one alive is on Insta, so you can go find that.
01:18:08
jim_phoenix
Go to my left behind at Instagram dot.com.
01:18:10
box they_them
No.
01:18:12
jim_phoenix
Go check out my left behind. All that and more on the next stream of demons with aliens next time.
01:18:17
box they_them
Yeah.
01:18:18
jim_phoenix
Bye, everyone. now how wow
01:18:22
box they_them
I'm dancing again.
01:18:26
jim_phoenix
Oh, oh, oh, Tara Reid started calling. I didn't look at the board.
01:18:31
box they_them
I don't think it's Tara Reid though.
01:18:33
jim_phoenix
Oh, it's too late. I can't even. Sorry, Tara. We'll get to you next time.
01:18:37
box they_them
Sorry, we know you're in a lot of indie movies like Mummy Dearest.
01:18:38
jim_phoenix
Sorry.
01:18:41
jim_phoenix
Mommy Dearest with Lou Ferrigno. Tara Reid is some dude who plays piano. That's all I remember that movie. ah I don't even know the guy's name.
01:18:49
box they_them
Oh, the piano, he was sweaty. I remember that. Yeah.
01:18:53
jim_phoenix
Sweaty piano masseuse.
01:18:57
box they_them
Yes.
01:18:59
jim_phoenix
Yeah, motherfucker.