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75. The Crow Franchise (the good, the bad, and the WTF) image

75. The Crow Franchise (the good, the bad, and the WTF)

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Welcome to the ultimate deep dive into the dark and captivating universe of The Crow, brought to you by the Streamin’ Demons Podcast. In this special series, we immerse ourselves into every facet of The Crow saga, from the iconic movies and the original graphic novel by James O’Barr, to the immersive game developed by Evil Genius. Join us as we explore the tragic beauty, relentless vengeance, and the undying love that defines this cult phenomenon. The Crow Movies: A Film-by-Film Analysis Our journey begins with a comprehensive review of each Crow movie, starting with Brandon Lee’s unforgettable performance in […]
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Introduction and Viewing Order Debate

00:00:01
Speaker
Call the call. Hey, everyone streaming demons, Jim Phoenix, and we're starting a new one out coming at you soon. We've got Crow two, three, one. That's what we have all the crows. We did Crow for last time. Oops. Now we're going two and three and one in that order because. Oh, I thought we were going three, two, one. Oh, no. Three, two, one. You want to do three, two, one contact motherfuckers all this more.
00:00:30
Speaker
on the next stream of demons. Three, two, one, contact. I like that. We'll do that one. Can't get any worse. We did four last time. That's exactly how I watched them.

Hosts Introduction and Podcasting Experience

00:00:46
Speaker
Is this a theme song? Sounds? Do I ask? I always think it's that same song now.
00:01:05
Speaker
I believe this is called Gay Loop, by the way. I don't think that's mine. Oh, hey, everyone. Hey, hey, kids. Hi, everyone. Jim Phoenix here and my co-host, Box Human. What are you on this thing? Jay and Brannak. I'll learn it one day. It's only been four years. It's been a few years.
00:01:28
Speaker
I don't know. Sometime. I just can't wait to do this episode of Crow.

Listener Engagement and Technical Issues

00:01:36
Speaker
So and Crow and also Crow. If you want to get it out of the way right now, why don't you like and subscribe to our podcast before you hear what the rest of it is? I think you like it better. Oh no. Although he's a Crow, right?
00:01:50
Speaker
Yeah, Crow, and then Crow, and then also Crow. Crow-T-Robots with us. Oh my god, I should have got Crow-T-Robot. Ah, that's a missed opportunity. I would have loved that. That's a missed opportunity. I am a fan, big fan, me. And if we were going to be on Riverside FM, because they'd have fucked me over 12,000 ways like Zankass who just did. You like it. Yeah, no, that way. You never said the safe word. They could have fucking spit on their cock before they did it to me.
00:02:20
Speaker
Ooh, there's a, there's a, hi mom. There's a hi mom. Hi mom. Hey mom. Not mine, really. Which is why I could, when I was going to visit my mom and surprise her for her birthday, I knew I could say it on this podcast because she doesn't listen. I could tell her every present I got her. She would have known. She would have known.

Humorous Gift Discussion and Future Topics

00:02:43
Speaker
Which means today's special podcast. I'm telling your mom every present you're getting.
00:02:50
Speaker
That's right. For what? It's not my birthday. No, it's not. It's not your birthday. You're getting your mom something. Why would I tell you your presence? I'll be spoiling it to you and not your mom then. Why do you know what I'm getting mom? I read credit card statements. Oh, okay. That's fair. Not necessarily mine. By the way, you are having something coming to mail soon. Well, thank you.
00:03:17
Speaker
Which reminds me, if this goes well box, you want to do JAWSes? Well, if we could do JAWSes. I've seen them all many times. How many JAWS are there? There are four. Can we do cruel JAWS as part of it too? Oh, well, okay. I think cruel JAWS is JAWS too. Here's the thing.

Critique of Crow Sequels and Viewing Experience

00:03:38
Speaker
I cannot know. It's not, but JAWS too is not much better. Um, I,
00:03:44
Speaker
Okay. Watching free movies was hard because they blurred together after a while. Well, okay. Hold on, hold on. Watching three movies from the crow franchise hard because after the first one, they just copy the shit out of it. Okay. It's not like watching Jedi and okay. I actually liked that idea. I actually liked that idea. The concept of that where the crow goes in and basically does the same thing. Um,
00:04:15
Speaker
It could have been done better. What? Four cis white males? I guess Brennan Lee, but three cis white males and Brennan and Lee. Well, okay. So I don't want to go too much into the crow too, but I was, okay. So I watched them, like I said, in order of four, three, two, one. Right. Which oddly enough, I did the same thing.
00:04:39
Speaker
I saw the first one like years ago, but that's how I rewatch them. I've never seen the first one. So it was, it was a delight when it was slowly getting better. Although three was horrible. This one was getting better. This franchise looks awesome in reverse. It's a shit show the other way.
00:04:58
Speaker
Should we talk about number three? We should, should we just, so what we did and since then, you know, no one's going to go, we're going to go first. I think we did salvation, Crow salvation. We did Crow city of angels and then the Crow we're talking about in that order. So we already talked about what Crow Genesis number four was four, number four, Tito Santana and this magic wiener dancing.
00:05:27
Speaker
It had, it had, okay, I actually liked the show before. I really liked.

Chaos of Crow 4 vs. Crow 3

00:05:33
Speaker
You liked four? I liked four because it was balls to the walls crazy. It was wild. And, um, it has actually a lot of good actors in it as Tara Reed. It has, uh, Edward furlough, furlong, and then it has, um, our boy, help me out, Danny.
00:05:53
Speaker
Yeah, I forgot his name too. I actually call him Edward. David Boreanaz. Oh God. No, no, no. David Boreanaz. Right. It has a bunch of talent, except for the writing and the fucking script and the directing. But it's so funny and wild. And again, Danny Trejo question mark playing a native American question mark, playing a priest question. It was great.
00:06:20
Speaker
But you know what? That tells you how bad crow salvation, crow three is. Cause you actually reminiscing about coral four. And so talking about the fucking movie for, I know, I know, I know. With Kirsten Dunce. She gives such a, you know, who else is in this? Oh God. It's William Atheron, Eric Mabius, Demi fan.
00:06:47
Speaker
So it also has the guy that was a Ghostbusters and also the reporter from hard. Walter Goggins, isn't it? And Walton Goggins. I can read today. Walton Goggins isn't it? If you don't know, I don't know what Walton Goggins done. Can you tell me justified? Holy shit. Okay. I don't. You need to stop watching shark 12,000 NATO 16 and watch him fucking

In-depth Criticism of Crow 3

00:07:14
Speaker
justified.
00:07:15
Speaker
I'm good. Masterclass of acting the entire fucking series and writing too, by the writing is phenomenal. So I guess this is in Salt Lake city, which I do kind of like the crows being in different major metropolitans. I do enjoy that as well. Are they actually there now? Is there actually something going on in the Salt Lake city? Yes.
00:07:43
Speaker
I haven't. This one was kind of weird because, okay, I do also like that the crow time to become the crow gets shorter also, the more to the first one we get. Is this the one where he could turn into the crow or into a crow?
00:08:04
Speaker
I'm getting confused with that. This is the electric chair one. This is the one where they do the botched electric chair at the beginning, right? Yeah. Because he killed his girlfriend, but not really. The cops are corrupt. And Kirsten Dunst is there and she's all like, I hate you. She's like 10 years old watching someone get a fucking
00:08:24
Speaker
Oh my god faces of death. That was me. I was christened. Yes, you were christened. All you need is a guy with a car.
00:08:34
Speaker
So that's how he gets the weird scars. That's how he becomes the crew is because of the box. Okay. No, his face is fucking burnt to a crisp. How the fuck did he peel his skin off and have like makeup underneath his fucking skin? I enjoyed the face peel. I did. There is a lot of body horror in this, which I did. Like there is the guy at the scar, like the killer of the scar and like the end scene, which we'll get to probably about that one too.
00:09:04
Speaker
Yeah, the beginning was wild because it just showed the same scene over and over and over and over again, which was really weird for me because I'm like, wait, didn't we just wait and we just wait. It really was. But yeah, the killer, the true killer has
00:09:27
Speaker
a weird scar on his wrist, which I was watching this with Audrey and she's like, Oh, that's where they put the drugs. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Like they put the drugs in the arms. Wait, what do you mean shooting up? Yeah. I think so. Or they're hiding the drugs. I don't know. It was weird. Okay. The killers were cops.
00:09:54
Speaker
in this one. Okay. So, so they weren't trying to hide drugs to get them in. They could just bring them in. But the whole, but the whole thing was about drug smuggling at the end of the day. You got that for this fucking movie. You got this at IMDB. Yes. I got this on Wikipedia and IMDB because this movie, Oh God, the writing is absolute shit. And by the way, I have to say this again.
00:10:21
Speaker
On IMDB, if you look at it, James O'Barr is listed as a writer. He did not fucking write this. He had nothing at all to do. Allegedly. He wrote this. Allegedly. No, it's like they credit him for because he creates a comic book. Oh, Bard worked on one Crow movie. It was the first one. The rest just put his name to it. They probably had some fucking production deal.
00:10:52
Speaker
I didn't care for this crow. I will say that he did not care for this crow. OK, watch this movie has so many wrong things with it, including like a cop that was raping a 10 year old or some shit. Or like, yeah, sorry, 15 year old, like how old are you, 15? Well, unzip. It was pretty wild. That was.
00:11:23
Speaker
pretty darn wild. And this crow is very, she has like the eyes, like he has the bugged out eyes and that's kind of his whole character. Like he, he tries to do one liners and he just can't pull them off, nor are they good. Okay. One liners. Now. Mm-hmm.
00:11:52
Speaker
for the guy that did it, Eric Mabius, you have to admit he was probably the best actor in this fucking film. Besides Walton Goggins, you know, because he can't do any fucking wrong, but Walton's like in a half minute of this shit. Hi. It's so hard because nobody won in this movie.
00:12:20
Speaker
Nobody won in this crowd. Crow doesn't fucking win. Crow doesn't win. People don't win. The bad guys sure the fuck didn't win. Kirsten Donston win. You know who she plays after this?
00:12:34
Speaker
I looked this up because I'm like, wait a minute. Was she like Jane Watson? Yeah. Like I was looking this up because I'm like, Oh, surely she was doing just crap at this time because like, no, before she was doing pretty major things. And after she was doing pretty major things, like vampire, like obviously before this, and she was somehow younger, right? That's how age works. Oh, interview with the vampire. Yes. In 94, 94.
00:13:02
Speaker
She was in Little Women. Um, she was where we are. She was, yeah. I'm not, I'm not picky like Kristen Duns was. She was a little woman. She was a tiny, tiny baby woman. To be honest, like, like we said, she was just, her lines were just spat out. Very like, how could you do this?
00:13:32
Speaker
How could you? She's not. She's she's not a good character. That's the thing. I don't know if she's not a good character or she's not. We know she's a great actress. Yeah, she's a good actress about this movie. Oh, she did not give a shit about this. It wasn't there for this movie. Or maybe she was like, holy shit. They're going to ask me to be Spider-Man and Spider-Man fucking film. I think I have to get through this piece of shit first. OK. I think that was it. I think that was it.
00:14:03
Speaker
But to be honest, like it's like plot on plot on plot on plot, but not really going anywhere either. Which is really weird because this is the third fucking movie in that franchise. This is the third movie Salt Lake City. There are zero Mormons. I was upset about that. More men than what Jimbo?
00:14:28
Speaker
Zing. That's the thing with these movies too, and we'll get to even Crow 1, we'll get to all this.
00:14:38
Speaker
There's nothing that says, this is the city that we are taking place in. And that's kind of a shame because then it just becomes like dilapidated building town. And that's like what this was. Are you saying there's something, let me, let me tell you the IMDB top tags for this rape and revenge. Oh, attempted rape. Wow. What the fuck? Rape. These are, this is the first three rape and revenge is one of them. Attempted rape and rape. Those are the first three and then salt lake city, Utah.
00:15:07
Speaker
Yeah. And like, well, and here's the thing, but there's nothing in the movie. It's not like, Oh, that's a landmark that like, and it follows, you see it and you're like, Oh, that's Detroit. Oh, I know where that is. You know, like, but with this, it's, it could be any town, but every town is dilapidated and burning for some reason. Um, but yeah, so they actually do film in Salt Lake city, by the way.
00:15:34
Speaker
Did they really? Well, they didn't utilize it. They did not utilize it very well. Um, and this one too, this is the, um, the one where she, like basically every cop ever in Salt Lake city is in this corrupt, completely corrupt. There are no Ernie Hudson in this shit.
00:15:58
Speaker
No, and they're all involved in sex clubs that are also online, and this is also how they get money. And also, even though it's What's His Face's daughter, they all rape and kill her. They talk about stabbing her 37 times or something.
00:16:15
Speaker
And they blame the boyfriend and it goes way. Yeah. And they go and the William out through bonds and I can never. Oh man, he was he in real genius? William Atheron. I don't know. He plays. Yeah. He's a real genius. He's professor Jerry Hathaway and also in ghost. That's the guy from Ghostbusters you're talking about. Yeah, that's the Ghostbusters in this shit. And the die hard and die hard too.
00:16:41
Speaker
Cause he gets punched in diehard and then he's in diehard too, which is amazing because I like that. He gets punched in Ghostbusters as well. I think so. He's just a punchable face. Oh, and guess what? He's also in on it. Sorry. I'm just going to spoil it because it's not worth seeing. No, I think it's like 24 years old. You can pretty much just say this should happen.
00:17:07
Speaker
And I was like, Oh my God, I can't wait to see this 24 year old movie, the Crow 3 starring the dude for Resident Evil and Ghostbusters. Here's the thing too. Like I had to ask Audrey to borrow her account for Paramount because that was the only place it was. Like it was not streaming anywhere. Even Tubi would not touch it.
00:17:32
Speaker
He's like, no, no, you don't mean that. Do you, you don't mean the crew cartoons with those crows with Tom and Jerry that that back then definitely wasn't blackface. They wanted to know to be was like, we have the crow for, we have the crew too. We do not have cross salvation. We do not talk about that.
00:17:52
Speaker
Well, you know what? I'm going to give you a bit of a devil's advocate or a crow advocate. Okay. A cure. According to this one feature review on IMDB, they really enjoy this movie. And when you see the person signing off on it, Lady Jackhammer. Yeah. Yeah. So if you have the mentality that your name's like Lady Jackhammer, which could be a lady who Jackhammers are most likely. Maybe, maybe we don't know. An eight out of 10. Fuck me. That's gotta be sarcastic, right?
00:18:21
Speaker
It has to be. It has to be. To be honest too, we've talked about revenge movies before. The I spit on your graves and whatnot.
00:18:35
Speaker
Even with explosions and so many explosions, so many explosions, the car took out a fucking helicopter. But not in a fun way, in a boring way. And the crow was so CGI'd, the crow was so CGI'd and it was very upsetting. And that none of the deaths were really all that memorable. And again, like he's,
00:19:03
Speaker
trying to be so okay this is what i don't like about the crows except for crow one is that everybody tries so hard to be like oh i'm so badass and when you try to be that i have my cat here yeah hi not only badass but
00:19:23
Speaker
It's just too much. It's like so cringe. It's sad. Cringe. I'll try to be Brendan Lee. I mean, if you ever watched it, we all have not watched all the crow movies. We have. There's only one pro movie they can actually explain the fucking makeup for. And that's the first one. Everyone else. So suddenly pulls it out of their ass. It looks like a crow now.
00:19:44
Speaker
Okay so even the first one, the guy peels his fucking face off to find his makeup. He peels his goddamn face off. I liked it. He peels his face off and goes, oh look, I just happen to look like a makeup artist thinks about Brennan Lee with like, I don't know, does he have like red eyes, like anti-histamine?
00:20:02
Speaker
fucking drop was kind of liked that because they were trying to do it without doing it. And it's like, okay, I'll give you props for that. And that's creative. At least guy who's staring at a fucking eclipse. But his eyes were just all buggy and weird. And like I said, he was just trying so hard to be badass. And it just was not working out. We're not even working out. What's the love interest in this one?
00:20:30
Speaker
Like the girl, I know the girl who gets killed in the beginning, but did you care at all about her?
00:20:38
Speaker
No, because you didn't know her. You didn't even know her. Exactly. You didn't know her, like at all. You did not know her at fucking all. Like, Oh, sex to be you. Your girlfriend died and you got framed for it, I guess, or some shit. I don't know either of you, but I don't know any of your motivations. I don't know any of her motivations, except she, why was she even in that club? Why did she even go upstairs? What the fuck did cops motivate? It's like, what are any of these motivations of, okay, revenge, revenge. And he gets brought back twice.
00:21:08
Speaker
Yeah, he does get brought back twice. Fucking Groundhog Day, because he's like, oh, sorry, apparently my intel was bad. I thought you killed them all, even though you probably killed. Yeah, well, yeah. All right, so we can trash this movie all we want. Yeah. Are there any redeemable parts of this movie besides Honest of God? It was so forgettable. The helicopter exploding after a car explodes from like an ashtray or some shit?
00:21:39
Speaker
That was at least, wow, you had a budget and you fucking did this with it. You had a budget and you're like, what should we spend at the shittiest thing we can do? I know the sad part. Yeah. Cause they did have the practicality of, of, of having the budget for explosions and million dollar budget.
00:22:02
Speaker
It had a, I believe a single theatrical release. And I don't mean nationwide. I met a single fucking movie theater, a single movie theater showed it. They pulled it. They pulled it very, very close. Because the reactions were so horrific. Like, holy shit. Are we still doing straight to video? Because this is 2000. You could kind of get away with straight to video in 2000. You could definitely have done it in the nineties.
00:22:30
Speaker
A lot of shit, 80s and 90s were a lot of straight to video shit. But 2000 was kind of like, fuck, it was actually $10 million straight to video. Robert Corbin would have made fucking Godzilla having sex with Mothra and coming on Catherine Kirk's face for $10 million. We got this. Hi mom. Thanks for still listening.
00:22:52
Speaker
Um, the, the problem for me obviously was the writing, but was the plot. It was boring. It was corrupt cop. Yeah. And that was, and everybody's corrupt. Everybody's. There was one part, what was kind of cool, the corrupt part, corrupt cop part. And James Abar, I think does take some of this for later on for his IDW release for his comic book later on. Like not the release of the original one, but the continues afterwards. Yeah.
00:23:19
Speaker
The cop knew what the crow was because most people in the crow movies like I don't record this guy. This guy doesn't even fucking make up on. He looks just like the guy who electrocuted. Except it's like a little daughter. You think you would recognize a motherfucker like, oh, yeah, my girl daughter is a ex-boyfriend. And like he rises up real quick. He rises up real quick. It's not like a year later. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right. He was in the morgue.
00:23:48
Speaker
Oh, I think it like rises really quick because Brendan Lee took like an hour to dig through the fucking ground, which we don't know Brendan Lee's in Crow 1. We're talking about later on. It's because it's been so long. Yeah. And they're all drug addicts. But cops should be able to like in the morgue. So how long is that a week? A couple of days? Yeah. Yeah. The cops just can't remember who the fuck they killed a couple of days ago.
00:24:12
Speaker
No, apparently not. Apparently execution happened with apparently an executioner hood and watching, but whatever. That was, that was weird. And then they bond later. It's just, it's just a mess. It's a fucking mess. It's a fucking mess. It doesn't go into work. What would you give it as a, as a get through the, we spent like 20 minutes talking about this. That's how much we had one.
00:24:42
Speaker
Fair. One. One 1.5 tops. Yeah. Only 1.5 was because, yeah, no, it's a one. You're right. I can't even get a movie. I mean, even the music was just not great. It was, it was trying to try too hard. Everything was trying too hard and the plot was boring. I don't want corrupt cops. And at some point I'm like, man, I wonder how bad Rob Zombie's movie had to be that they put this out instead.
00:25:09
Speaker
because I saw that too. I saw that too. How bad did you fuck up your movie track dude? Like they wanted to have Rob Zombie, right? You know, and, and, and whatnot. And I love Rob Zombie films, man. I love his original work. And I, I'll be one of the people who admits it. I even love this Halloween.
00:25:29
Speaker
Okay. I mean, I think his houses are better than the last three from Blumhouse. Here's the thing is he has a vision. He has a very clear vision and he has a style. He has a very clear style. I think this would have been very stylized to him and it might've worked for that time period, especially. I think it would have worked better for his style. I think he was making one in the future or some shit, but meaning it was set in the future.
00:25:54
Speaker
Next one for Crow, the City of Angels, setting the future of 2002 LA. We will have to watch the new Crow that's coming out this year. I'm not watching that. Fuck off. Yep. We're going to have to. Somebody's going to have to.

Crow 2: Best and Worst Nominations

00:26:10
Speaker
So Crow, City of Angels, who both got nominated.
00:26:16
Speaker
for the best movie in 1997 by the International Horror Guild and nominated and won for Fangor Chainsaw Awards for 1997 worst movie. Oh. Both the best and the worst fucking movie. Okay. I liked this one a lot better. I thought he was a better crow. Um, okay. So this one, okay. This one was,
00:26:45
Speaker
Not Vincent Perez, I just, yeah, Vincent Perez this one. Yeah. Right. Uh, I think, yeah. This one has Iggy Pop and Vincent Perez. Iggy Pop. Okay. Yeah. I was in Tui Trang. It was Tui Trang. She was the yellow power ranger. This was like one of her movies before she passed. All right. The yellow power ranger passed away? Yeah. Yeah. She was in a car accident.
00:27:13
Speaker
Oh, I did not know that. I'm so sorry. Yeah, she was very young. So this was like one of her only films. This was, I think her last film, to be honest. We have at least also some characters from the last movie. I mean, the first one was Pro 1. Which again, because I'm watching them backwards. I'm like, who the hell is this chick? And apparently she's a tattoo artist now.
00:27:43
Speaker
This is in Los Angeles, so going a little bit to Crow. Crow 1 was not set in Los Angeles. This is set in Los Angeles. Again, burning buildings everywhere. In the future, everything's just on fire. She is in this
00:28:03
Speaker
We're dilapidated loft with amazing lighting, a million candles, a million fucking candles. And so in my notes, I said, I really hope this is a girl crow. And I really, really wanted it to be. Almost. It was almost a girl crow. That was part of the pre-production plan. I wanted it so hard to be a girl crow. That was part of the pre-production and it would have made sense.
00:28:33
Speaker
Yeah. And she's psychic. Oh, okay. I think she's psychic because she spent, cause she's the original little girl from the original weight because she's not the actual original girl. I disagree. I disagree. I disagree. Just read all you want, but that's literally the, I know it's supposed to be that, but boo. And, and also she wants to fuck the crow and the crow wants to fuck her now.
00:29:03
Speaker
because he's a single dad who's ready to. Well, yeah, I guess they're fucking he's not a single dad no more. He's a he's a what's that they're not orphaned because he loses his kid, right? Yeah, he's not orphaned. What is that? Just like fucking losing your kid. I guess. Yeah, that's his fucking vengeance plot. Yeah. So which was a pretty brutal death, I will say, because they were tied together, shot and then like kicked off a pier.
00:29:34
Speaker
And then he crowed up from underwater. From underwater. But he didn't, he didn't bring his son with him the first time. I thought that was interesting when he crowed up. He did crow up and scream. This is where the movies and get very, maybe not weird for you, but it might make you understand things a little bit better on how this was presented for you.
00:30:04
Speaker
OK, who puts his film out? I don't know. Miramax. OK. This is one of the times where I would say Miramax and Weinstein was doing a lot of fucking bullshit cuts. Oh, so this is not necessarily what the story should have been, even the way they shot it.
00:30:27
Speaker
This is being caught up and being sliced and diced at a point where it didn't resemble even the track of what would have happened if he just read it as a book. Which makes so much sense because everybody talks so cryptically in this movie. Right. If you reshuffle the fucking scenes and you add the ones they caught out, it goes, oh, it makes perfect sense. This is my original Harry Potter movie moment.
00:30:56
Speaker
where if, there's one, okay, I know this, it'll make sense, watch. There is a Harry Potter, like Goblet of Fire or some shit like that, or Order of Phoenix, where if you didn't read the fucking books, you have no idea why they just cut. Do this other thing, like, what the fuck this guy pissed off about? Like, I don't understand any of this shit. And then you read the books, like, oh, okay, you're supposed to read the books to understand the movie now? Fuck you, something got cut, and that's your fault.
00:31:24
Speaker
Not you. But this comes with no cleft notes. This is exactly it. This is if you saw it in the theater, you're like, what the actual fuck? We get to have the credit of, you know, time because this came out 20 years ago. Fuck me. Almost 30 years ago. Almost 30 years ago. This can drink. This can drink. This has children now. This can have fucking heart problems.
00:31:51
Speaker
But this has a machine box. This has fan edits. It's not a director. There's actually fans with the director kind of supports. OK, that's how bad our mind seeing cut this shit up. So I didn't mean to hit my mic. Obviously, I didn't hit my mic. So you have very, very passionate. It's the second, it's the first crow movie after Brendan Lee dies.
00:32:15
Speaker
Yeah. And James Abar was supposed to write it and he just can't fucking do it. He just can't do it. He can't just fucking he just fucking can't do it. And that's why he hasn't. I don't think that's I think that's the reason why he just haven't been able to do one since.

Brandon Lee's Legacy and Crow 2's Strengths

00:32:28
Speaker
Because they were friends and he just like James Abar blames himself for Brennan Lee's death. Oh, well, I didn't do this shit and it wasn't him. He wouldn't have died. And, you know,
00:32:41
Speaker
And we'll get into the first Crow movie in a half second. But check out the fucking soundtrack. You said you hated the last soundtrack. Yeah, this one was good because it has Iggy Pop and it has to be good. Yeah, it has to be. Honestly, he was the best fucking thing about this movie. He was. And the funny thing is he still fucked his scenes up because they're out of order.
00:33:06
Speaker
So all the shit he's reacting to is something you don't see what happened yet. I thought it was great that she need him into the junk. That was pretty cool. We do get to watch some sweaty guy whack off. I thought that scene transition was actually kind of cool. Too much scene of him jerking off.
00:33:34
Speaker
But I do like the scene where he's watching this live girl, you know, and she's being like, Ooh, do I make you horny? And stuff like that. And then it turns off because his coin is, is gone. And then he turns it back on and the crow is there. And I'm like, yeah, strip. I'm not going to complain.
00:34:02
Speaker
about that. Did number three have any nudity? No. No, they did because remember there was that BDS sex thing that they were putting on the internet and getting hits on or whatever. And then number four has done what's right.
00:34:22
Speaker
Yeah, no, I don't think so. I'm really glad at the Church of Satan, but I don't think any full. Yeah, we did not say. Apparently tits. Yeah, we saw Danny Trejo's tits. That's true. Ten out of ten. And then crow to just like they go full fucking everyone. Tits. This is the hamiest crow and I liked him. This is where everybody's acting as at like a twelve hundred percent. Like everybody's acting is like.
00:34:51
Speaker
up there. And think about how many name actors you had in this movie. OK, think about how many names versus the other one. There you go. I just named them all for you. All the ones you would recognize before this film, you wouldn't recognize Vincent Perez because that motherfucker like a French Swiss dude, you wouldn't recognize. Well, you'd recognize Iggy Papa as an actor. Oh, shit. Wasn't Bon Jovi supposed to be this fucking dude?
00:35:26
Speaker
But anyone else on this task list, like Tracy Ellis, you OK? You can't try trying. Sure. As a powerpuff girl. What are the power rangers, the power ranger? But how many fucking power rangers they had? They're basically child. There's two girls. There are two girls. This one and the girl that did play the stripper movie, the stripper movie that was not also not good. What's the pink girls?
00:35:46
Speaker
I have no idea.
00:35:55
Speaker
Yeah, showgirls. You see her tits? Well, I should probably rephrase what I'm about to say, but yes. I don't know. No, I'm not going to go into it. Good. Like, you know, it's like really hard. You know, exactly. You don't know because it was this one because like, I don't think that's my place to go. But I saw it. There's no one here. Yeah, no, but it was it was much more entertaining.
00:36:23
Speaker
Judah reminded me of the guy, like the leader in the Warriors, like the good guy who gets killed in the beginning. Can you dig it? But the, but evil. No.
00:36:43
Speaker
No, it's not book a T. This one has a storyline. Okay. This one has an actual fucking storyline. We see has a son Danny, you know, it has, uh, the guy takes over for smiley faces, bullshit, drug, pin, overlord thing that went from apparently Detroit to LA. And we have the psychic. Although the way the psychic dies.
00:37:13
Speaker
She doesn't really die, right? No, I don't think so. She gets dropped out of a fucking window. Yeah. And breaks her back. Okay. I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, the deaths in this were pretty good. Um, I do like curves death leaving him to die. Flower petals in the shape of a crow. I died laughing.
00:37:41
Speaker
And it is day of the dead festival, which I also liked because crow one was devil's night. And this incorporated day of the dead. And I did like that. I thought that was kind of neat.
00:37:53
Speaker
Right. And for IMDB, it's back from the dead post-punk psychotronic film edited from movie, which probably is an evolution to the the fan films that did much better. We should watch a fan films once like later if we got time, but not well, maybe we'll talk about who knows, but not rape, not like the first three in the next film are all rape. Yeah. Right. There's no fucking plot. It's just rape, rape and more rape.
00:38:21
Speaker
Yeah, thankfully they did not rape his child. They just killed his child. Yeah. But I did also like that his child was also kind of like a wandering ghost who would sometimes cheer him up. Like, come on, Dad. You can do it, Daddy. Get your punk ass up, Daddy. Kill these motherfuckers. Come on. We want fucking everything. We want Grandma's cookies. Yeah. Kill her, Daddy.
00:38:51
Speaker
Yeah, that was basically, again, I did like that Sarah was a tattoo artist. I wanted her to kill somebody by tattoo. Although her boss, I feel bad for her boss because he did not give her up and he got hurt from that. Well, okay. You can feel bad for her boss, but you know what you can't feel bad for? Liquid IV.
00:39:18
Speaker
Like what IV.com? That's right. No, you can't feel bad for the soundtrack. Yeah. No, it's performed by Bush. How the fuck did they get? They got some A-list shit on their soundtrack, man. This soundtrack was probably the best. It's really, it was pretty good. Yeah. It was very good. They, they, they use their money wisely.
00:39:45
Speaker
I did and there was there was actually there were good deaths there were good um there was good practical effects there were good explosions um
00:39:58
Speaker
Iggy pop just a million dollars was more expensive than number three and yet actually made money because it had a theatrical release and the people in the theater probably like what the fuck is this but they just okay 96 they wanted us and the crow came out in 94 they wanted to see I remember this shit we didn't know how it was a child
00:40:26
Speaker
Okay. My generation, we didn't know how it would be without Brennan Lee because we're like, holy shit. How do you fucking do a crow sequel without Brennan Lee? So it, it didn't have to be Eric Raven, which thank God it wasn't Eric D. Reagan. Get it. Ha ha ha. But it was its own thing. Ish. Yes. Ish. And enough of the fields, not for the world as world building.
00:40:51
Speaker
Yeah, I think this is this was like a natural more natural community. I can't speak more of a natural continuation. Thank you. Then any of those movies were just kind of like a Randall. I'm a crow now. What's that? I don't know. Yeah. Crow fest. God, that was bad. But like I said, I like the concept that it does change people.
00:41:12
Speaker
But I also want, like I did like the flavor of Day of the Dead. I wanted actually maybe Latino Crow, you know, or...

Crow 1: Cult Classic and Influences

00:41:23
Speaker
Hold on to that. Huh? Hold on to that. Okay. Because I'll tell you, I'll give you a small hint.
00:41:32
Speaker
My plug is from Evil Genius Games, and they have an entire the crow licensing that they wrote a role playing game for. And it goes into a whole bunch of fucking shits. You can make your own crow until you're trying to make my own different types of crows. I would make it, but it's explained. It's fucking insane. The powers are. That shit.
00:42:02
Speaker
would want maybe even a Latina Crow. Cause that was the thing. I wanted this to be girl Crow. I really did. When we started off as Sarah, cause I didn't know who the fuck Sarah was. I was just like, Oh, girl Crow, like, yeah. And then he came in and I was like, fuck. And then she's like, I'm down to fuck with you. And he's like, I am too, but we can't box. There is a girl Crow. When Cheryl.
00:42:32
Speaker
What? Say it out loud. Cheryl. Cheryl. Say it out loud. Cheryl. Say it with me internet. Was it Cheryl? Cheryl. Cheryl. I don't know what you're saying, dude. There's a girl, Crow. Yeah. Say it with me. Cheryl. Crow. Thank you. God, that took a while to get there. I know. All the good jokes take 12 minutes to get to the punchline.
00:43:01
Speaker
And also you have to explain it to you. Okay. Okay. So Cheryl Crowe's a singer from the nineties. And then what happened was she had last seems crow. I think she's a woman. Oh, six degrees of crow, six degrees of crow. And Tom servo is in this movie too. What?
00:43:25
Speaker
Lying. No, he's not. You're a liar. I just thought I was lying. Yeah, I know. And you are lying. By the way, also filmed in Los Angeles. Yeah, okay. But again, it doesn't look anything to me, like anything. It didn't? Anyway. Okay, so I wrote this down because I thought it was really, really funny. It's a line that Eggie Pop says, which is, fuck you, bird dick.
00:43:53
Speaker
And I thought that was really good. I don't think he even knew he was on camera. Honestly, he was great. He was great. He was funny. He pops a good fucking actor. He is. And he's just, he's, he does have comedic timing. He really does. And he's a lot of fun. Like I said, I think this was one of my favorite crows. I would say this is my second favorite crow because he was really hammy and just like,
00:44:23
Speaker
Really getting into it. What would you give this one? What would you give this one? This one I would give Very okay, it tilts into three me too. I'll say about three. Yeah, it was fun. The music was great It is rewatchable Back to back that shit
00:44:46
Speaker
Like I said, it's it's weird, but weird in a way where it's this little time capsule of like, wow, this was life back then. Like, this is what we thought was cool. It was fun. Yeah, it was a fun ride. And you can kind of see where he turns the crow a slight bit on camera, but not quite like crow three. The motherfucker just like a transformer. This is like the shadow work for the one of the camera angles. Yeah. Yeah. Makes illusion.
00:45:16
Speaker
Honestly, the ending where they're having this big day of the dead parade festival concert thing, I thought that was a lot of fun too. The extras were having a blast, or at least they were acting like they were having a blast. And that was kind of fun. Now, all this brings us to the original.
00:45:43
Speaker
The crowiest crow that ever crowed. It can't rain all the time. I can't rain all the time. Back from the dead super action village a lot to the abandoned church urban setting last week. All right. What did you think? Now you want them backwards. Yep. I went to the original and honestly I think that's the way to do it because they just get better. That way.
00:46:08
Speaker
The first one, I could see why it was such a hit. I could absolutely see why it's gained such a cult following. It was very stylistic. It was very smooth. Of course, you know, what I really missed with the other crows that you really get with this crow is that... She got the woman who gets killed? Well, and she actually... Okay, so there's like the whole thing of like, oh,
00:46:36
Speaker
The lady, does she do anything? Does she have any hopes or dreams? And she did. She was fighting against basically gentrification. They were kicking them out. And she was fighting against it. And that was what led to this whole thing, by a steampunk vampire. That's how he dresses. He dresses like a steampunk vampire.
00:47:04
Speaker
with his sister lover. Um, it was by lane. I didn't know that was by lane. We don't know if they're by or not. You can't be saying that shit. That's her name. Oh, that's her name. That's her name. What if by lane was in? Huh? What was she's in a bunch of stuff. She's in a bunch of stuff. I'm I'm completely high voltage. She was in a bunch of stuff. Like what?
00:47:32
Speaker
I'm looking up. John, he lied. I did not. Hawton studio, Kung Fu slayers, Baba Yaga, Passy Lee and the keepers at five kingdoms. Yes. I know you are. It has Ernie Hudson in this. It's got Tony fucking Todd in it. Tony Todd. Oh man. And he plays such a slick fucking character. Um,
00:48:01
Speaker
I mean, she was on entourage and lost. Anyway, so got some good stuff in it. And even the people get it from the non people, you don't remember their names. They, everyone does such a great job acting. Do you know who T-bird was? T-bird or David Patrick Kelly? Uh, T-bird was, yeah, David Patrick Kelly. He was the clink clink warriors come out and play.
00:48:28
Speaker
I don't know warriors. This is my second Warriors reference, by the way, I know about that.
00:48:44
Speaker
So this okay, I did not realize that this was set in Detroit because it does not look anything like in Detroit All of them they're all set on fucking no, I know but it doesn't look anything like it nothing In Detroit
00:49:05
Speaker
It doesn't look like it. No, it's actually North Carolina. It's North Carolina. Okay, that makes more sense. I'm like, this looks like it was shot on the moon because that's not Detroit.
00:49:15
Speaker
I did not realize until we were talking about Devil's Night, and I'm like, that's odd, because only we say that. And then they were talking about Motor City something, and I'm like, that's weird too, because we're the Motor City. And then I had to look it up. I'm like, oh god, it's in Detroit. So you could put this, honestly, I feel like this is like a, what do you call it? Like a spiritual sequel to like Robocop, because it is very like, oh shit, bad shit's going bad, you know?
00:49:44
Speaker
We have this Avenger to come and fuck shit up. But yeah, so going back to the girl, yeah, she had actually something. And what I liked about this too is again, immediate crow. We don't know anything about what happened. We come upon their death scene. We don't know who these people are. And that was so clever and so smart because then we're piecing together who he was, who she was, how the relationship was.
00:50:15
Speaker
Brendan Lee, um, Brandon Lee, sorry, Brandon Lee. He was, he's so good at martial arts that it's so believable. Like every other crow, they're just flying around flopping around on people. This, the action in this was so satisfying. But I'm, I'm giving you a big book. Okay. For me with your big butt.
00:50:44
Speaker
I'll come back to bro. Okay. The reason why this is really good isn't because Brennan Lee is good at martial arts because he can fucking act. Oh, he's an incredible actor. He's a tremendous actor and he can act with his face. He can act with his fucking face and his body. He put his body through fucking torture just to look like that.
00:51:09
Speaker
Oh man, he looked good. He looked good. Like when he's going, when he's going up those, those, that ladder, I'm like, damn, damn.
00:51:24
Speaker
He, no, he did a phenomenal job. And what I liked about it too, the writing was very good, but also he can deliver those lines and be on that cusp. And I kind of liked this that all the other people were trying to do on that cusp of being jokey and also being melancholy. Like it's that, that balance. Like when he's, especially when he's with Ernie Hudson, like, and I love that buddy.
00:51:53
Speaker
to them. Like, cause Ernie Hudson's a good guy trying to do what's right. He's a cop. Um, and, but their, their chemistry is really good. You care about him. You care about Ernie Hudson. You care about Sarah. You care about Brandon Lee's character. Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. I really liked her. I know that this is like, this doesn't mean anything. This is just me going like, Oh, um,
00:52:23
Speaker
But it was like such non-binary energy that Sarah was giving out that I loved it. It's called skateboard. It was great. No, not just that. Sarah was a skateboard punk. It's the shaved head, the skateboard, the boy clothes. No skateboarder. You're describing a skateboarder from this time period. Okay. Yes. From this time period. But it was like very, everything about her was very, non-binaries can be skateboarders too, dude.
00:52:52
Speaker
but everything you described was like, no, no, you don't understand. She had like a white shirt on, like that's the skateboarder look. Oh no, but she had like a skateboarder. It was a vibe, it was a vibe. You know, she had a, I'm like still a skateboarder. It was a vibe, it was a vibe. Hey, she's like seven this fucking film. I don't want to hear no vibes. Man, where's my fucking zoo?
00:53:17
Speaker
Yeah, I'm using that shit on you. Talking about non-binaries. That's all I'm talking about. But honestly, like you said before, just everybody who's in this, they did a great job at casting. It was really incredible to see. Yeah. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to see.
00:53:36
Speaker
And the writing, because this goes in with James Barr, who does the fucking Crow comic books, you know, it's got more of his imprint on it. It's got more of his imprint on it. And the lighting was perfect. And OK, and here's another big thing that I I kind of lost my mind at is that the Crow actually like touches.
00:54:05
Speaker
randomly, you know, like the other crows were just like, Oh, that's a picture of a bird that I'm watching. But this one actually interacts. One was just fucking Denny traded naked. Yeah. And like T bagging the guy like, come back to life, son. It sort of said T bagging the guy. Hey, the crow, the crow came back, didn't it? The crow, the crow. I'm coming back. Shit, man.
00:54:30
Speaker
He did. And also, the music, this was very music heavy because the crow was also a musician, we find. So basically- Which makes the makeup fit. I didn't understand that. I will be honest. He had a mask, he put some paint on. It's a whole theatrical Giannis two-faced opera, nevermind. Okay. I mean,
00:55:01
Speaker
I'm sure it goes more into it in the comic. To me, it was just like, okay, he has a mask and he said boo to her once with the mask. And so he's going to use that. I'm sure it's much more explained, but I did enjoy him going to the pawn shop, finding her ring and finding it not by the look of it, but by the touch of it.
00:55:31
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, in the comic book, let's just say it's a lot more graphic. Oh, I'm sure you can get away with more. But anyway, yes, it was, it was a fun film. I enjoyed it. And apparently it is a Detroit film. So I'll have to add that to my list of horror and Detroit.
00:56:00
Speaker
Rocksteady, Detroit, everything's, this was, oh, and by the way, you know how the other one wins the Fangoria chainsaw war for the worst fucking film? This one wins the best. This one's for best wide release film and best actor for Brennan Lee. Yeah, no, and I can, I can understand why. Absolutely. Like he, he brings a real, um,
00:56:24
Speaker
Honesty to this work. Like humility and humanity to it. Yeah. Yes. And, and also inhuman. He was really good at doing honestly the first, okay. So Jellybeans did not like this movie because it has an angry cat in it. And she got very upset at that part. She jumped off me and was very upset.
00:56:48
Speaker
Um, but he has a cat and that's actually the first line that he says is he calls the cat by its name. And I thought that was really telling because it's like, that's the first time he becomes kind of like a human again is like when he goes back to his old apartment and starts after a year and the cat's still okay and everything like that. It's an amazing cast and like Rochelle Davis, she also wins an award for best supporting actress.
00:57:18
Speaker
Okay. So everyone. And this one, it was so much worse too, because he experiences, and this was interesting too. He experiences the pain of, again, rape is not our sponsor, but of being raped by everyone, by being killed by everyone. He is, when he crows out,
00:57:43
Speaker
He experiences all of this. Oh, he experiences, like, because he gets to see his, okay, and the graphic novel, they spend some significant time showing, not because, not too much time, but he gets to see his fiance being beaten and raped and then shot. Well, he's basically paralyzed after being shot in the head. That's how the film starts out.
00:58:08
Speaker
I kind of like this version because it's like he experiences. So that part of the vengeance is so much more gratifying. Cause it's like, it's her vengeance as well. It's not just him, it's her. Sure. Which is missing in the other three movies. No, I agree. Absolutely. And that's okay. Not to go back to the graphic novel, but if you want the graphic novel, it's amazing thing. James Barr is a great writer. So go for it.
00:58:38
Speaker
It gives a more nuance on his mindset. The graphic novel, the Crow fucks with them, I think, in the graphic novel a lot. Because Crow's like, you know, I can show you these fucking things, pal, but he ain't gonna fucking like it. I can do it. Are you sure, dude? You really have to go through this shit? Okay. I warned your ass. Here we go. And that's another thing about this movie is the Crow has more of a presence.
00:59:06
Speaker
It is a character. Yeah. And we're just, and except for you who watch them backwards, the audience is figuring out the crow mythos as we go. Cause you know, we can watch a graphic novel, but most of us were for those that weren't
00:59:24
Speaker
of the age. Graphic novels became very popular now. They were still just comic book bullshit back in the day. It was frowned upon. You couldn't get them half the fucking stores. Or if the stores had them, it would be Superman and Batman and maybe- Or it'd be like a fucking arm and a leg or you would get like this issue, but then you couldn't find this issue and then you got the next issue. And then it's like, fuck, I miss so much. Like what's going on?
00:59:54
Speaker
It wasn't like it's not like the internet now, too You can't just go on and be like hey guys, you know, no, you know this now So after all that with the acting and the fucking writing even I'm not gonna say it because of Brendan Brennan Lee died for this but Take that murder. That was so sad him getting shot because of shitty conditions working conditions Yeah, take that all other
01:00:20
Speaker
The movie and just finishing the movie with the I know I should take it out and bring it back in. Finishing the movie with his family's permission, with his family. They actually have the family like finishing it off and with their blessing and putting it out to be his lasting legacy of this fucking because he could have gone out on a fucking body or body cop comedy with Dolph Lundgren. But he doesn't. He goes out. No. And God damn, it's a fucking type movie. Yeah.
01:00:50
Speaker
It's really a masterpiece to his acting abilities, to his physicality of his acting. Because to be honest, if you watch Crow 1 and Crow 4, you will see like, oh, yeah, having a fight scene is also a work of art. Absolutely.
01:01:15
Speaker
There's a lot of physical acting. It is a part of physical acting. And he was just very well-rounded. And it was a shame. It was a tragedy. The movie as it is. What do you give a shot of Five Cthulhu? Well, it's hard. I feel like there were a few things that could have been cleaned up or made a little bit more coherent.
01:01:48
Speaker
And it's hard because I do want to give it more because it was his last film and it was very well, like I liked the character. I'm going to say, I'm going to say a 475. 475? That's all good. Yeah.
01:02:07
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was really good. I'll watch it again. Absolutely. This starts entire franchise. It starts everything. This was. This is Dark Knight before Dark Knight. Yes, exactly. If you were a gothy kid back then, this was your movie because this was this was the only fucking movie for you. This is like, you know, like whatsoever. But, you know, yeah, I can see it. It was romance. It had drama. It had family in it.
01:02:37
Speaker
It's a comedy and a comedy fucking funny guy. Especially when Ernie Hudson's like, what are you going to just like vanish in a thin air again? And he's just like, I was thinking about using the front door. Right. No, I laughed. I literally laughed out loud. That's good. So you gave a four, seven and five. Yeah.
01:02:59
Speaker
Yeah, well above a 4.5, I'll probably still give it a five, but I can see a 4.75. I'll still give it a five, maybe because I saw it in the fucking theater. Yeah, and I think too, because for one, I was too young for this. And also too, it was just, if I think I'd seen it in a
01:03:22
Speaker
When I was younger and seen it again, I think I would have had fond memories and might have bumped my score a little bit. Doesn't on eight. I mean, a lot of things age poorly. This does not age poorly. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. This does not age poorly. You could show this in another 20 years and it would still be just a solid fucking 80. But sure. I'll be shitting my pants somewhere. Oh, honestly, that's what.
01:03:47
Speaker
It's going to happen in the old folks homes later on that are just going to show Crow reruns and people are going to be like, I remember. The cure. The cure. That's, I mean, that's what the generation's going to be. They're going to be playing the cure. Who else was in this? There's a lot of other things. Nine inch nails, I think. Joy division. Rage against the machine.
01:04:17
Speaker
Yeah, so there'll be.
01:04:19
Speaker
They'll be playing all that in old folks homes. I'm sure one day and people are going to be like, I remember the crowd. No way. I think you're right. We did this correctly. I think starting out with four last week or last time and then three, two wanting it. There's no way we could start with number one and then go and they get worse. At least the one on the happy note. Boy, three was a piece of shit. I'm so glad we gave like Crow one five minutes to get to three. You know, now.
01:04:49
Speaker
I think we did it the correct way. And Crow 1, an amazing piece of work. Crow 2, I think is rewatchable, but not right away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can watch Crow 1 every year. I honestly would not watch them back to back. I wouldn't recommend that because you're going to see more flaws in Crow 2. Yes. But space it out, you know? Crow 3, I would imagine.
01:05:14
Speaker
Yeah, no, don't watch it again. Or four. Fuck you. Nope. I'm going to watch four again, probably with Audrey at some point because I, Dennis Hopper and Dennis Hopper trying to play black. Yeah. Hopper's trying to play black. Yeah.
01:05:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's so bizarre. Three holes playing indigenous. Native American. The kid from Spermetor is playing a toffee. I don't know, man. Yeah, he is. And I think also Latino. Right. We could never figure that shit out because that was the last episode. I don't want to get it. I'm not going to give him more anything with that.
01:05:56
Speaker
So now what are, I have a very special plug, not really a special, but I have a plug for this. What's your plug first though? Okay. Well, because it does take place in Detroit, which I did not know, um, but I do now. And because it is like a post-apocalyptic like thing, um, I'm going to talk about a, uh, nonprofit that creates a success for neighbors.
01:06:25
Speaker
And it is basically by neighbors for neighbors called Brilliant Detroit. And it's brilliantdetroit.org. And basically it's communities led by neighbors that get everything they need for kids to be educated, healthy, and stable. So they really work with education, health and family supports, and trying to get kids reading
01:06:48
Speaker
you know, early on and just being supportive. So again, that's brilliant. Detroit.org. And so let's not make this a post apocalyptic future for Detroit. Detroit where I can buy properly as fucking monopoly.
01:07:09
Speaker
Okay. Well, yeah, you guys have a feature. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. And I mean, I can buy houses on a credit card. Hey, look, our, our motto is from ashes. We rise. So look, Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I meant asses. We rise. I don't want to buy that. That's not bad. That's not bad. I mean, I'm not doing a charity. I'm doing evil genius games. Go check them out. Evil genius, dames.com. If you like the crow, you can also obviously do James Lamar's book, the graphic novel. If you want to role play the crow,
01:07:39
Speaker
The best one I found out that I played and I loved was the Crow Cinematic Adventures Digital Editions or Print Editions. The artwork's beautiful, the story makes sense, and you can kind of map this to the rest of the Cinematic Adventures or Everyday Heroes game system.
01:07:56
Speaker
But go check it out. The Crow from Evil Genius Game. That would be fun. It would be fun to play different crows. It puts in a lot more effort explaining. That game puts in more effort explaining the background of the crow and the different crow powers in the makeup than two or three of our combined. The only thing it's missing is a half naked Danny Trio. Half naked Danny Trio is in there and Pimp Daddy Hopper.
01:08:25
Speaker
It would have been the perfect fucking thing. What if I played a Pimp Daddy Danny Trejo? You could do that. There's probably a character called Pimp Daddy Danny Trejo in there. Check it out. Evil genius games. That's it for us. Do you? Okay. I think we need to take a small break from our, because I need, okay, this is me saying I haven't watched Jaws 2 probably since it came out in the theater. How about you watch, how about we both watched together Jaws 1. You watch Jaws 2 and I'll watch Jaws 3.
01:08:55
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Oh man, but I like 3d. You haven't seen two in a while. I want to torture you. And that's like the worst one. The worst one. Yeah. It's scar jaws. No, it's, it's scar jaws. Scarface jaws. Yeah. It's got jaws with a scar. He gets electrocuted. Okay. So maybe that's her thing. We're going to start doing franchises now. Oh,
01:09:24
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alien franchise that we could do. I mean, we could do a lot of franchises we could do even.
01:09:32
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We did Ghostbusters before. It's actually, franchising started off with Ghostbusters. We did all the Ghostbusters movies. Yeah. And that was a haunted episode because I, my internet died. Yeah. And we said some major, major fucking, we talked so much shit about that Ghostbusters. Kate McKinnon. Other than we both drooled. Oh man. We could say like fricking gorgeous. And that was gorgeous.
01:09:58
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We love the cast. Everything else follows a piece of shit, but the cast is nice. Yeah. And not just for looks, but it's just talent level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so we could do critters. We could do critters. I've never seen critters. I've never seen tremors. We could see... House only had two, right? One and two? No, House had three, I think. Three? I didn't even know fucking three. I think House had three. I mean, there's a lot of franchises. Jason's and Freddy's and shit like that. And Puppet Masters.
01:10:28
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I mean, there's a lot. There's a lot. This is, is this turning into sequels? I think the sequels were supposed to like make them better. That was James squared. I think this is turning into sequels. I like it. It's easier for me to understand what movies we could, we could do at least a season of sequels. Let's do that. Shit. This is our season of sequels. You know why? Because not only I like doing it,
01:10:57
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01:11:18
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Look at that fucking account felt so freeing. Fuck y'all. All right. Yeah. Myself, Jim Phoenix and my co-host J.M. Brannock. I got the name right this time. I bid you good day. That wasn't the Harvey Weinstein. That was Harvey. Harvey's the last name. Vince Harvey, Bruce Harvey, the guy from the Midwest that always do like the moments like the
01:11:48
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Um, Harvey, Jim Harp, wait. Or wait. Paul Harvey. Oh, we were born the same fucking day. That's why I like Paul Harvey. Not every fucking doctor makes an old day of born on. Oh, well, that's fine. He's also an invisible rabbit.
01:12:27
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Goodbye, everyone.