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84. Scream Queens and Ghosted Kings: Horror Flicks That Killed Our Love
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Ever wondered if The Exorcist could possess your love life? Welcome to Streamin' Demons, the hilarious podcast that explores how horror flicks can turn date nights into nightmares!
Join us as we dive into spine-chilling tales of relationships gone wrong, all thanks to the silver scream. From first-date frights to breakup bloodbaths, we've got it all!
🚩 Uncover relationship red flags hidden in horror tropes
🤣 Laugh at our personal dating disasters inspired by scary movies
🎭 Explore the terrifying tango of humor and horror
Whether you're a horror buff, a dating app warrior, or just love a good chuckle, Streamin' Demons is your go-to for frighteningly funny entertainment.
Don't let your love life become a horror story – tune in now and learn from our mistakes!
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Transcript
Introduction to Relationship-Ruining Horror Movies
00:00:01
jim_phoenix
Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here, and today is the one that we've all been waiting for. That's right. If you thought you had a significant other, these are the movies you should watch. You get your pre-nup, you get your post-nup, you get your nuppy nups, and then you listen to this podcast. We're gonna give you the horror films that killed our relationships and our bad first date movies. All this and more on the next stream of demons. Hit it.
Technical Difficulties and Guest Introductions
00:00:29
jim_phoenix
Fuck me. No, no, no. Hold on. There we go. That's the music.
00:00:36
jim_phoenix
I guess that'll be the first thing for a killing relationship.
00:00:42
jim_phoenix
wow Box is quiet. It's weird. Box is back from assignment.
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box they_them
Yeah, I- I muted to be polite, but I guess it won't be polite.
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jim_phoenix
ah I can't hear box at all.
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jim_phoenix
It's like they're in Detroit rock city.
00:01:12
jim_phoenix
That's so weird. Hey, everyone back again. Jim Phoenix and gang. That's right. We've got special guests. We've got box human AKA J.M. Brannock. Say hi.
00:01:24
box they_them
Hello.
00:01:25
jim_phoenix
back from, I think I had you hunting Orca or hunting Orca hunters.
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box they_them
No, um I was hatching on the orca.
00:01:31
jim_phoenix
I had you something.
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box they_them
It's different.
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jim_phoenix
You're hunting on the Orca as well. Glad to have you back.
00:01:37
box they_them
Yes.
00:01:38
jim_phoenix
Cause last time I, well, we'll talk about that.
00:01:38
box they_them
Thank you.
00:01:41
jim_phoenix
Our, our first host kind of like, uh, went away to North Korea. Next up we've got none other than Jennifer from the website. Hey Jennifer, long time no see.
00:01:53
jim_phoenix
How are you?
00:01:54
Jennifer
I'm good, how are you doing?
00:01:56
jim_phoenix
I am always pan tabulous. Thank you very much for asking. And we've got a new edition all the way from, I won't say the word cause I can't pronounce the name Christine. I can pronounce your name, but I just can't pronounce where you're from. Christine. and How are you?
00:02:12
Christine
ah Pretty good, thanks, how are you?
00:02:15
jim_phoenix
I am almost wonder woman. Riffic. There you go. That's all we need. I'm going to plug that hand carved wonder woman thing. And if you want to to win one of these hand carved wonder women key chains, you like him subscribe and then you still got going to win. But just like and subscribe and I'll tell you where to get one in hell. No, I'm kidding. It's probably comic con. Let's go there and buy one.
Special Edition: Movies Across Time Zones
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jim_phoenix
Today's a very special stream and demons. Not only do we have multiple time zones being covered, but we're talking about something near and dear to my heart. Rolligator.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah.
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box they_them
Yeah. Yeah.
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jim_phoenix
We're going to talk about movies that maybe weren't the best idea for a date, either a first date or completely destroyed a relationship.
Discussion: Movies That Destroyed Relationships
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jim_phoenix
And, uh, for once it's not porn.
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box they_them
And everything in between.
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jim_phoenix
Well, maybe that is the problem with that.
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box they_them
Yeah, we can talk about what small hands of burning angel.
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jim_phoenix
Everything in between.
00:03:11
jim_phoenix
yeah Oh, small hands burning angel. Yo, they don't break enough enough. They make things all nicey nice.
00:03:21
jim_phoenix
For those who are wondering what boxing are talking about, one day box and pain watched some horror porn together.
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box they_them
yeah
00:03:28
box they_them
Not together, not in the same room, not in the same country, is not even in the same country.
00:03:28
jim_phoenix
And then they recorded a 12 hour review.
00:03:35
jim_phoenix
It wasn't the same continent, you know, it's all continental drift. If you get my meeting and I think it does. Yeah. Jesus pain. Anyways, so if you're new to streaming demons, we usually do a theme or we talk about a movie and review it.
00:03:50
jim_phoenix
and There's no real spoilers, except for these movies. I'm pretty sure most of them are old enough to just give full spoil. You don't have to worry about that. if they're Unless someone's got like a brand new movie.
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Christine
Thank you.
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jim_phoenix
like I just saw aliens rhyme with this and it broke me up. I'm like, wow, shit. Oh, you can swear too, by the way. Yes, you can also swear.
00:04:06
Christine
you were getting that in
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jim_phoenix
And I also didn't do that anyways. No. If you are wondering, we used to do a
Podcast Format Changes and Personal Horror Stories
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jim_phoenix
new borrowed in blue thing.
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jim_phoenix
We no longer do that. So I know some people have been in that show for awhile. So right now we just go through, give your name, give your rank.
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Christine
You were getting that in.
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box they_them
hey
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box they_them
It's a theme.
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jim_phoenix
It is a theme.
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box they_them
It's a theme.
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jim_phoenix
It's a heartbreak theme. It's all about heartbreak.
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box they_them
Oh, this, this is about, you know, just awkward connections and, and movies that, you know, might've tainted what could have been or maybe what is, but you're welcome.
00:04:45
jim_phoenix
TikTok tees tainted. Thank you. Ankle shot ass.
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jim_phoenix
Thanks. Thanks.
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box they_them
Hey, look, look, I watched the movie the other day with ankle shots and I was delighted.
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jim_phoenix
Oh, yeah. But did you actually make your significant other like walk through a Best Buy parking lot so you can take an ankle shot for your co-host? So they like, hey, this isn't creepy at all.
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jim_phoenix
I'm thinking ankle shot of I won't say their name. I hope they don't take offense and then ah submit that like this kind of like really weirdo porn.
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box they_them
No, I didn't do that.
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Christine
Thank you.
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jim_phoenix
No, you didn't do that.
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box they_them
I didn't do that.
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jim_phoenix
Really? I don't, I wonder why.
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box they_them
No.
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jim_phoenix
Yeah. Yeah, really.
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jim_phoenix
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, it can all be good as we are very lazy. We always let the special guests go first.
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box they_them
and I don't know.
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jim_phoenix
So Jennifer, I got you.
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Jennifer
Oh, okay.
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jim_phoenix
I got you. I got you, Jennifer. So i by the way, I, your, your finger, I'm gonna say your finger porn. Oh, I'm tired. Your finger.
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box they_them
is on the pulse oh it
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jim_phoenix
Spider art creeps me out because spiders creep me out.
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Jennifer
Oh yes.
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jim_phoenix
I'm like, ah, his finger is smarter than that. The fuck?
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Jennifer
It's getting even worse then because that was the tame one.
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jim_phoenix
so Oh boy.
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Jennifer
Yeah, well, you know, this is what happens when you ask AI to do anything with fingers or spiders.
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box they_them
just goes by worse and worse
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Jennifer
It's just not pretty.
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jim_phoenix
I, I think spider baby from father Ted might be part of the next one.
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Jennifer
um
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jim_phoenix
Spider baby's gonna make an appearance, I'm pretty sure.
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Jennifer
Um... No, AI didn't quite go there, but it has its has its moments, and it didn't give me what I wanted, which was a spider made out of fingers.
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jim_phoenix
Oh.
00:06:24
Jennifer
I tried so many times to get a spider made out of fingers, and it would not give me a spider made out of fingers to save my life.
00:06:25
box they_them
Oh.
00:06:32
Jennifer
It gave me spiders on fingers, and it gave me fingers on spiders, and it gave me weird combinations therein, but the whole, ah and it gave me mechanical things.
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box they_them
This is why.
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Jennifer
I don't know why.
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jim_phoenix
yeah
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Jennifer
Because I never ask for mechanical things. I'm like, why am I getting robot spiders?
00:06:48
jim_phoenix
Oh, I was thinking like, because it always gives you mechanical things.
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box they_them
This is why AI won't win. It can't even give you. spider yeah it doesn't even give you a spider made out of fingers rude i
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Jennifer
Well, I mean, what could you possibly ask for that would be better from AI than fingers and spiders?
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jim_phoenix
Although.
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Jennifer
I mean, come on, it can't get those correct.
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jim_phoenix
Oh, ah Jennifer. If you asked it to look at Mr.
00:07:07
Jennifer
Yes.
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jim_phoenix
Hankey or Bad Dragon toys, I'm pretty sure AI can whip you out a spider finger thing.
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Jennifer
Maybe.
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jim_phoenix
See? Yeah, it's got to model it.
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box they_them
have i have
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jim_phoenix
It's got to model it correctly.
00:07:19
Jennifer
I'll leave that. you can you can you can You can respond to those in kind later.
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jim_phoenix
Yes.
00:07:23
Jennifer
you you can You can manipulate the system to that end.
00:07:24
jim_phoenix
I will ask Bad Dragon to make a spider finger, to make spider finger toy.
00:07:28
Jennifer
Yes, I will be impressed.
00:07:31
jim_phoenix
That would be horrific for so many reasons. Well, okay. so Now that we kind of gauged a level of, of mad madness, as Larry Schmoller say, what was your movie?
00:07:43
jim_phoenix
What was your, okay. So it was a first day you're talking about.
00:07:46
Jennifer
It was a first-date movie.
00:07:47
jim_phoenix
Right.
00:07:47
Jennifer
um I'll give you a little bit of backstory first. So I met this guy. He came in when I was working as a an art consultant for an animation gallery.
00:07:58
jim_phoenix
ah How do we get you?
00:07:58
Jennifer
And um we just...
00:08:03
jim_phoenix
Like, you know, when I was an art consultant for animation galloping, how the hell are you working here now?
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Jennifer
Well, yeah, that it's a there's there's been a lot of history that's gone all over the place in my life.
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jim_phoenix
I mean, thank you.
00:08:14
Jennifer
but to Now he came in, I think we were talking about Thundercats, I don't remember, but we kind of hit it off and so then we wound up deciding to try going on a first date and at first I thought he had stood me up but then, you know, we wound up connecting and our first date was we were going to go and see a movie and we went and saw Event Horizon.
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jim_phoenix
Oh.
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jim_phoenix
Oh God.
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box they_them
So romantic.
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jim_phoenix
but the The black hole one where everyone's kind of like, there's the the horror.
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box they_them
It's fat Lawrence Fish burr. And, um...
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jim_phoenix
Yeah. Is it Lauren Fishburne? It looks like he was kind of melty though.
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box they_them
No, he wasn't melty.
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jim_phoenix
Is that the one?
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box they_them
No.
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jim_phoenix
Who's in that one?
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box they_them
It had seem neil ah Sam It had Sam Neill, and he had the, you don't need eyes for where we're gonna see your burr.
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jim_phoenix
Who isn't?
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jim_phoenix
Oh yeah. They're not melty there. The eyes are kind of messed up.
00:09:01
box they_them
Yeah, he let, he cut out the eyes.
00:09:02
jim_phoenix
Yeah. Okay. I knew something was weird. Okay.
00:09:04
box they_them
yeah yeah
00:09:05
Jennifer
And I'll admit, I don't even remember this film that well. We were obviously not on the same wavelength as far as what we were trying to do at all, as like building this relationship.
00:09:15
Jennifer
And we went and it was pretty obvious from then that the relationship shouldn't have gone anywhere, but I pursued it for like three months after that. I don't know why.
00:09:23
jim_phoenix
Wait, I have to ask whose idea was event horizon.
00:09:24
Jennifer
So... It's his.
00:09:27
jim_phoenix
Was that yours? Okay It was his that he watched a trailer before Okay
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Jennifer
Totally his.
00:09:30
box they_them
Okay, okay. Did he like it?
00:09:34
Jennifer
I think that he knew, um he followed some of that the actors that were in it. And that was where that suggestion came from. So I don't, and he was more into things of that genre than I was at that time.
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jim_phoenix
i
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Jennifer
I was very young and very naive. I was, you know, still, I was still in art school then. This is a long time ago.
00:09:54
jim_phoenix
Oh wow.
00:09:55
Jennifer
So um yeah, no, but we went. And of course, for whatever reason, that one just tickled me like the way that um Congo did when my stepmother and I went and saw Congo and everyone else in the audience is like, you know, absolutely like terrified.
00:10:09
Jennifer
And we're just giggling the whole time.
00:10:12
box they_them
Like you were both giggling?
00:10:13
Jennifer
And I couldn't stop laughing. And I felt so bad. I'm like, OK, I'm sorry, this movie just rubbed me that way. I don't know.
00:10:21
box they_them
So were you just giggling or was he giggling along with you?
00:10:24
Jennifer
Oh, no, no, it was just me. that Like I said, I should have known that wasn't going anywhere because of that response. You know, like I went one way and he went the other way.
00:10:35
Jennifer
And then we tried to make it work for three months. And then he was like, you know, I miss the girl that I should have gotten engaged to in Michigan.
00:10:43
Jennifer
I was like.
00:10:43
jim_phoenix
Oh.
00:10:44
jim_phoenix
Oh.
00:10:44
Jennifer
Well, you know then you should have gotten engaged to the girl in Michigan. That's how that goes.
00:10:48
jim_phoenix
Oh.
00:10:48
Christine
She probably liked the better island.
00:10:49
jim_phoenix
Wait, three months?
00:10:49
box they_them
Yeah.
00:10:49
Jennifer
It made him totally reassess his life, figure out what it was that he wanted out of it. And he actually went and proposed to her. And like I don't know if they're still together. We didn't stay in contact. But ah the trying to go back into the dating scene after that experience, I think he was like, yeah, maybe when I packed up and moved you know several states away and thought that I was just going to leave that life behind and start over, maybe I was wrong.
00:11:14
jim_phoenix
That life being the the event horizon first date life.
00:11:15
box they_them
Oh, wow. Yeah, I wonder if he called her.
00:11:18
Jennifer
Well, no, no, that was the life that he tried to start new and it didn't really go anywhere.
00:11:20
jim_phoenix
Oh my God.
00:11:23
box they_them
I wonder if he called her and he's like, did you see a Event Horizon? And she was like, it was so great and scary. And he's like, yes, you're the one.
00:11:30
Jennifer
but Right?
00:11:30
jim_phoenix
You're it. That's, I'm so, I'm so sorry, Jennifer. That that's harsh. That is pretty harsh. Like, so you guys were together for three months and he's like, Oh, fuck this. I'm going to go back to my ex.
00:11:41
jim_phoenix
I was like, is my ex still available?
00:11:42
Jennifer
well Well... It wasn't working anyway.
00:11:47
jim_phoenix
it' still It's still, it's not like an apartment.
00:11:47
Christine
Thank you.
00:11:47
Jennifer
it was It was three months of not working anyhow.
00:11:47
box they_them
Yeah.
00:11:50
Jennifer
It was fine. It was just kind of funny. I mean at that point in time I packed up and moved to New England so it wasn't going anywhere between us anyway.
00:11:56
jim_phoenix
The new England. When old England was not good enough. So what was the second date? What was the second date? I'm just curious what the second date was.
00:12:03
Jennifer
I think we went and saw Good Will Hunting.
00:12:06
jim_phoenix
Oh, but it was the hunting movie.
00:12:06
box they_them
That's a complete change.
00:12:09
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:12:09
box they_them
That's a complete change.
00:12:10
jim_phoenix
But to be fair, he probably thought it was like a snuff film. It was like Good Will Hunting.
00:12:13
Jennifer
No, no, no, he was a huge mini driver fan.
00:12:14
jim_phoenix
Today.
00:12:15
Jennifer
So, you know, that's how we wound up.
00:12:16
jim_phoenix
Oh, as we all are, you know, nothing wrong with me.
00:12:16
Jennifer
over the Yeah. ah so
00:12:22
jim_phoenix
Wait a minute. Hold on. So he, who do you see event horizon for? I thought it'd be like Larry or Lawrence Fishbork. So who do you see it? We've been rising for, who, who was he following?
00:12:31
Jennifer
I have no idea, I don't even remember.
00:12:31
box they_them
Sam Neill?
00:12:33
Christine
send you.
00:12:33
jim_phoenix
Sam.
00:12:33
Jennifer
Like I said, that was so long ago and I have absolutely no recollection of the movie at all.
00:12:33
jim_phoenix
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:35
box they_them
um now
00:12:37
Jennifer
It was funny, I was telling my my best friend about it later and she was all like, oh, I saw that movie, that was terrifying.
00:12:37
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:12:43
Jennifer
I'm like, really? I didn't think so.
00:12:44
box they_them
Sam Neill?
00:12:45
Jennifer
I couldn't stop laughing.
00:12:47
box they_them
I just love that movie.
00:12:47
jim_phoenix
I couldn't stop.
00:12:48
Jennifer
I just, the suspension of disbelief on that one went a little too far for me.
00:12:48
jim_phoenix
yeah
00:12:53
box they_them
See, I think in the theater, I would have been the opposite too.
00:12:53
jim_phoenix
ah It's not bad.
00:12:57
box they_them
I'd be like, no, Sam Neill, he's beating us right now.
00:13:02
jim_phoenix
They're all doing it now. So I'm gonna ask this because I've laughed in apparently inappropriate movies, Passion of Christ. And apparently that that's gets frowned upon in the theater.
00:13:16
jim_phoenix
Did people like look at you when you're laughing? You're like, what the fuck is wrong?
00:13:19
Jennifer
some Yeah, you know you kind of get over that. Like like I said, when my stepmother and I were in Congo and had that response, the rest of the theater kept sort of glaring at us like, why won't you shut up?
00:13:30
Jennifer
And it was just like, but there were two of us then. So we were backing each other up. It was you know like we had our own little laugh track going.
00:13:34
jim_phoenix
Yeah, the speeding off.
00:13:35
box they_them
Kago, Kago is different. Kago is so different. It's monkeys and lasers and sign language. I get that.
00:13:41
Jennifer
I know, how can you even take that seriously in the first place?
00:13:44
Jennifer
That movie was brilliantly funny.
00:13:44
box they_them
I get that.
00:13:46
box they_them
I'm like, Tim Perk trying some kind of accent and not pulling.
00:13:46
Jennifer
I don't know, it was weird.
00:13:47
jim_phoenix
Monkeys layers.
00:13:48
Jennifer
I guess it was just the audience at the time.
00:13:53
box they_them
It's great. It's funny.
00:13:55
jim_phoenix
I love box how you remember what Congo was. I'm like, I kind of remember the poster, Christine.
00:13:58
box they_them
Yeah.
00:14:00
jim_phoenix
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:01
Christine
I'm lost here.
00:14:01
jim_phoenix
So. so So, Christine, you've seen, event we've we've all seen Event in Horizon, but yeah, Congo, I might have seen the poster for, like maybe.
00:14:11
box they_them
So, Congo, yeah, I was really into it because at the time I was really into, um, like, apes learning sign language and gorillas learning sign language.
00:14:11
Christine
I'm going to look it up here. I'm Googling.
00:14:22
jim_phoenix
that That's the reason why you saw Congo? Like, hey, this is what about apes learning sign language.
00:14:25
box they_them
Yeah.
00:14:27
jim_phoenix
I can't wait to watch this one.
00:14:27
box they_them
Yeah. ah And you know what?
00:14:29
jim_phoenix
Blood guts and ass, probably.
00:14:30
Christine
wow okay so so the uh google has put a um review in quotes this is easily one of the dumbest movies i have seen in a long time and in all honesty it is also the most brilliant
00:14:30
Jennifer
that's his That's as good of a reason as we had.
00:14:31
box they_them
And you know what?
00:14:33
Jennifer
We wound up there because Tim Curry was in it.
00:14:34
jim_phoenix
That's it. Now I'm looking at it.
00:14:35
box they_them
Tim Curry was.
00:14:36
jim_phoenix
Can Kim Curry's in it? How do I miss Congo?
00:14:38
box they_them
Yes. and with a but
00:14:46
Jennifer
but
00:14:54
box they_them
Yes.
00:14:56
jim_phoenix
Oh, my God.
00:14:56
box they_them
Yes. Agree. Fire degree.
00:14:59
jim_phoenix
This is so Ernie Hudson's in it.
00:15:00
Christine
and have right now
00:15:02
box they_them
Yes. Ernie Hudson. Oh my God. He, he has a fun role.
00:15:06
jim_phoenix
Was he busting ghosts?
00:15:07
box they_them
Yeah. No, he was not busting ghosts.
00:15:09
jim_phoenix
That's the only fucking movies I've seen him in.
00:15:10
box they_them
Oh, ah Joe Don Baker is in it. um Who else is in it? There's a lot of people in it.
00:15:17
jim_phoenix
Okay, I think we'll go with the, had a $50 million dollar budget.
00:15:18
box they_them
There's a fight about sesame cake. There's a sesame cake fight.
00:15:22
jim_phoenix
Okay, so we'll go with with the Google review. This is the dumbest fucking movie ever.
00:15:26
Christine
I'm gonna have to go before it now.
00:15:27
box they_them
It's great.
00:15:27
jim_phoenix
But you know what? It's got a 23%. I can see laughing at that.
00:15:32
Christine
It does.
00:15:32
box they_them
It's fun.
00:15:34
jim_phoenix
I can see laughing at Congo. Hey, Venerizon, maybe I was...
00:15:37
box they_them
I can't.
00:15:39
jim_phoenix
I was gonna watch that again.
00:15:39
box they_them
I can't.
00:15:40
jim_phoenix
When you were talking about a Venerizon jet, I'm like, my God, I wanna watch that again. I thought, okay.
00:15:45
box they_them
We should do space horror next time.
00:15:47
Jennifer
i need I need to give it another chance, I'll admit that. Like I said, the mood that I was in when I went the first time was not the right move mood for that movie.
00:15:55
jim_phoenix
Yeah, and I was probably black out. So I probably saw like, hey, this is a great movie. Space Aliens or some shit.
00:16:01
box they_them
It's very like space Cenobites. Like it's very space Cenobites.
00:16:06
Jennifer
Yes, yes, i I definitely would agree with that assessment.
00:16:07
box they_them
And I ah dig that.
00:16:09
jim_phoenix
Oh, so it's like Hellraiser 8.
00:16:11
box they_them
I dig it.
00:16:12
Jennifer
Yes.
00:16:12
jim_phoenix
Hellraiser in Space. Which I actually, yeah, Christine, there's actually is a Hellraiser like 12, like Painhead Goes to Space.
00:16:14
box they_them
Yeah, but better.
00:16:19
box they_them
Yeah, I mean, we all go to space, like Jason went to space.
00:16:19
Christine
Really?
00:16:21
jim_phoenix
I wish I was lying, but yes, it does. It is.
00:16:25
box they_them
um
00:16:26
jim_phoenix
Freddy with the space, Herbie the love bug with the space, Jason with the space.
00:16:28
Christine
Yeah,
00:16:29
box they_them
Yeah.
00:16:31
jim_phoenix
it's a
00:16:31
box they_them
What take leprechaun? Did leprechaun go to space?
00:16:33
jim_phoenix
It's, no, just up, Jennifer asking the space.
00:16:34
box they_them
I know he went to the hood. I know he went to the hood.
00:16:39
jim_phoenix
The, leprechaun, chucky, conjuring then regularly and all in space, that's gonna be scary as fuck.
00:16:39
Jennifer
Give it time, Leprechaun will make it there.
00:16:42
Christine
yeah I think they're gonna make that now.
00:16:42
box they_them
Yeah. Or the Conjuring. The Conjuring has to.
00:16:46
Christine
chucky and
00:16:46
box they_them
Like Annabelle. Annabelle in space.
00:16:52
box they_them
Yeah.
00:16:53
jim_phoenix
Okay, what would you give, Okay, so what would you give the movie overall? What would you personally give that movie overall from one to five good fools?
00:17:04
jim_phoenix
I know we don't remember most of it.
00:17:05
Jennifer
I don't remember it well enough to rate that on Cthulhu's.
00:17:08
jim_phoenix
What would you give the date one to five? go There you go. I think that's that's it.
00:17:12
Jennifer
Oh, the date?
00:17:13
box they_them
That's better.
00:17:14
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:17:14
box they_them
That's better.
00:17:15
Jennifer
That should have been a sign, like I said, so like maybe two tops, like that should have been a sign.
00:17:20
jim_phoenix
Two.
00:17:21
box they_them
You're still gracious.
00:17:21
Jennifer
But actually, we had fun.
00:17:23
jim_phoenix
ah
00:17:24
Jennifer
um I mean, we enjoyed getting to know each other after that.
00:17:24
box they_them
Okay.
00:17:28
Jennifer
but We had a second date. I mean, we kept dating for like three months. So you know I guess it it was probably better than a one or a two, because otherwise that would have just dropped off there. That would have been it.
00:17:37
jim_phoenix
All right.
00:17:37
Jennifer
Then I would have been having my you know the movie that destroyed the relationship before it started conversation.
00:17:41
jim_phoenix
The food.
00:17:43
jim_phoenix
Damn event horizon.
00:17:47
jim_phoenix
Tell me not to watch that one, Jimbo. Always go of alligators or roller gators.
00:17:50
Christine
yeah
00:17:51
jim_phoenix
What was it called? I forgot what it was called, right?
00:17:52
Christine
it
00:17:53
jim_phoenix
You know, maybe 2.5, you know, halfway through halfway.
00:17:56
Jennifer
Yeah, yep, yep.
00:17:57
jim_phoenix
I'll give it up for a second date. Yeah. Nice. Well, very, very cool. Thanks for thanks for starting to stop. Christine.
00:18:05
Christine
Hey!
00:18:06
jim_phoenix
What was your movie? What was your movie?
00:18:07
Christine
Look. I don't have a movie in particular. I've been married for many, many years. Like I said, um've I've been with my um husband since I was 19, so I don't really remember dating.
00:18:15
jim_phoenix
Oh, yes, you.
00:18:22
Christine
But we have very different horror movie styles, which is very um divisive in our house.
00:18:26
jim_phoenix
Uh-oh.
00:18:32
Christine
He is a slasher. um saw, the purge, loves watching people getting murdered and cut up. I am very much the haunting of Bly Manor and um paranormal sort of horror girl.
00:18:50
Christine
And so, it doesn't break up a marriage, but it does kill the vibe for the night when we're watching each other's horror genres.
00:18:50
jim_phoenix
OK.
00:19:00
jim_phoenix
So how do you do that? Is like your turn and his turn and your turn his? Does it bounce off and back?
00:19:03
box they_them
Yeah.
00:19:04
Christine
Yeah, yeah, it's a bit like that. Sometimes it's just a bit of like, you have to put up with it. Yeah. And sometimes we just leave it up to the kids.
00:19:17
box they_them
All right, so do you like watch half of one and then half of the other just to like compromise?
00:19:18
jim_phoenix
Well, blame the kids.
00:19:18
Christine
So. um
00:19:22
Christine
Oh. yeah that that would be a fair watch half of um soar and then let's put on paranormal activity for the rest of the night we
00:19:33
box they_them
yeah right i just yeah just put the first one and then the last like you know bit of the last you know your one and then that can make a yeah right right right right and then make a story between that
00:19:34
jim_phoenix
and You probably won't miss. You probably won't miss.
00:19:43
Christine
could just watch 10 minutes and minutes and
00:19:49
jim_phoenix
get the fullul foot There has to be a movie that follows in both places. I'm thinking almost like would Hellraiser fall into both where it's still kind of paranormal spooky and then still gory.
00:19:58
box they_them
a
00:19:59
Christine
there There are a couple that we've sat back and gone. Yeah, that was good. Both of us.
00:20:03
box they_them
Okay. What's, what's, what's the one that like, that you most watch like together?
00:20:05
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:20:08
Christine
13 ghosts sort of hits.
00:20:09
jim_phoenix
Okay. The original or the new, the remake.
00:20:11
box they_them
Which one? Which one?
00:20:12
Christine
The 90s one?
00:20:14
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:20:15
box they_them
Oh my God.
00:20:15
jim_phoenix
The proper one.
00:20:16
Christine
The problem?
00:20:16
jim_phoenix
Sorry boxes.
00:20:17
box they_them
know No, no, no.
00:20:17
jim_phoenix
This is where, this is where box and I disagree.
00:20:18
Christine
I didn't know. Was there a remake? Did they remake that?
00:20:20
box they_them
I disagree.
00:20:21
Christine
Oh, it was a TV show.
00:20:22
jim_phoenix
No, no, no. The 13 ghosts is a remake of the Vincent price one that no one at all besides box and apparently Jennifer watch.
00:20:24
box they_them
No, no, no.
00:20:27
Christine
Oh, okay.
00:20:27
box they_them
No, no, no.
00:20:28
box they_them
It wasn't Vincent Price. It wasn't Vincent Price.
00:20:30
Jennifer
Mm hmm.
00:20:32
Christine
ah Yeah, I haven't seen that.
00:20:32
box they_them
It was in Vincent Price.
00:20:34
jim_phoenix
It was Bella the ghost.
00:20:34
Christine
Is it?
00:20:34
box they_them
It was.
00:20:34
jim_phoenix
say Who was it?
00:20:36
box they_them
No, it was.
00:20:37
jim_phoenix
Who was 13 ghosts?
00:20:38
box they_them
Let me look it up because it's not going to be anybody.
00:20:39
jim_phoenix
You're looking it up. Oh, whoa, box, box, box.
00:20:41
box they_them
Yeah.
00:20:42
jim_phoenix
I found it. You know who it was?
00:20:44
box they_them
No, shut up.
00:20:45
jim_phoenix
So it was, it was who cares.
00:20:45
box they_them
Shut up.
00:20:47
jim_phoenix
No one watched that version ever.
00:20:49
box they_them
It's a better version.
00:20:50
jim_phoenix
It's the better version, better of what I, there's no better
Debate: Original vs. Remakes of '13 Ghosts'
00:20:55
jim_phoenix
versions out there. Trust me. Jimbo is the better spur version that he ever gets. No, dude.
00:20:59
box they_them
Oh, it's a William Castle.
00:21:00
jim_phoenix
Virgin not version.
00:21:00
Christine
Does the better version follow the same storyline?
00:21:02
box they_them
That's my boy. William Castle's my boy.
00:21:03
jim_phoenix
okay
00:21:04
Christine
Is it basically the same?
00:21:06
jim_phoenix
I think so.
00:21:06
box they_them
No.
00:21:08
jim_phoenix
It's not.
00:21:08
box they_them
No.
00:21:08
jim_phoenix
They don't go to the house and they like try to summon the dead for the.
00:21:09
box they_them
It's not.
00:21:11
box they_them
They get the house.
00:21:13
Christine
Oh.
00:21:13
box they_them
No. No, no, no, no. That's all different.
00:21:16
jim_phoenix
Really?
00:21:16
Jennifer
Mm hmm.
00:21:16
box they_them
That's all different.
00:21:17
Christine
Really?
00:21:17
box they_them
They get a new house and there are 13 ghosts in it, but it's not about whatever the fuck that was with magic traps and glass.
00:21:25
jim_phoenix
That was awesome. That was the part of the coolest.
00:21:26
Christine
What?
00:21:26
box they_them
No.
00:21:27
jim_phoenix
That was the best.
00:21:27
box they_them
No. Hard. just
00:21:29
jim_phoenix
I don't know what boss is talking about.
00:21:30
Christine
And look how sort of it sort of gave off to so many other different franchises.
00:21:31
Jennifer
Mm
00:21:34
Christine
it's
00:21:35
Jennifer
hmm.
00:21:35
box they_them
It's- It's very different.
00:21:36
jim_phoenix
Yeah. It gave monk and Matthew Lillard a career boost.
00:21:40
box they_them
own Tony- Tony Shilhube is the only good thing about that, maybe.
00:21:41
Christine
Yes!
00:21:44
jim_phoenix
Oh, Matthew Lillard is good too. Come on.
00:21:46
box they_them
He's- Yeah, he's fine, I guess. He's fine.
00:21:49
jim_phoenix
ah Okay. Don't make me do scrappy or I can't do Shaggy's voice right now.
00:21:50
box they_them
He got work. I- Zoinks!
00:21:55
jim_phoenix
I'm gone. Yeah. That's not me. And no one's wondering that was not me doing that voice.
00:22:00
box they_them
That was totally Jim. It was weird.
00:22:02
jim_phoenix
Yeah. Oh, it was you. jump i I saw your lips move. Shut up. pain So you have the real 13 ghosts, kind of like the real Ghostbusters box.
00:22:10
box they_them
No, no, no, no, no, no. William Castle.
00:22:13
jim_phoenix
Which one came first, the real Ghostbusters or Ghostbusters with the ape? Ghostbusters, the ape came first and it sucks. Which came first, the black and white 13 ghosts or the real one everyone watches?
00:22:19
box they_them
I'm not, I'm not saying it's one thing or the other. Look, look, look.
00:22:24
jim_phoenix
The real one everyone watches.
00:22:26
box they_them
Look, it's by my William.
00:22:27
jim_phoenix
I can't see nothing. It's a dot. You're orange dot.
00:22:30
box they_them
buddy, William Castle, that I'm reading his book right now.
00:22:34
jim_phoenix
Is it me? You read my book? Oh, then I don't know.
00:22:38
box they_them
Oh, oh, can you not see me?
00:22:40
jim_phoenix
You don't have a cam on. but Yeah.
00:22:42
box they_them
oh my cam my cam is on for me okay okay fine no i thought i thought you were okay i'm reading his book right now what william castle william castle who bell castle who did 13 ghosts i'm not to that point yet so no spoilers
00:22:42
Christine
You're an orange dot.
00:22:44
jim_phoenix
like I wonder if they were wondering if I was just taking the piss when I said they're orange dot.
00:22:48
Christine
No, no, she's an orange.
00:22:50
jim_phoenix
No, you're an orange. Yeah, you're an orange dot box.
00:22:55
jim_phoenix
Mine.
00:22:56
Christine
Peace?
00:22:57
jim_phoenix
Oh, William Castle, Bill Castle.
00:23:04
jim_phoenix
Yes. Yes. Here we go.
00:23:08
jim_phoenix
No spoilers. They all die. Oops. Sorry. I said no spoilers.
00:23:12
box they_them
That's funny because I can see me.
00:23:12
jim_phoenix
Oh, I thought, I thought box was going to read the book to us.
00:23:13
box they_them
Anyway.
00:23:16
jim_phoenix
So I shut the hell up for a second.
00:23:16
box they_them
I will. I can. I can. Let's see where I'm at.
00:23:19
jim_phoenix
Oh, you are going to read the book. Okay. I thought you're reading. Okay. Quick read time.
00:23:22
box they_them
When I finally reappeared on deck, he charmingly told me he had a concoction that would fix me up immediately. The end of the the chapter. No, I'm just kidding. Anyway, Christine.
00:23:31
Jennifer
Okay.
00:23:32
box they_them
So 13 goes to the wrong one. Okay. Is there another one?
00:23:35
jim_phoenix
Oh, that's part of the book? That's very specific. It's only written to a people named Christine at this point.
00:23:41
box they_them
I know.
00:23:41
jim_phoenix
I don't think you're reading from the book anymore.
00:23:42
Christine
We're all right.
00:23:43
box they_them
No, I think I am. So is there any other one that you guys can kind of like come together and make peace instead of war?
00:23:53
Christine
Not really, no. It's very far and could be.
00:23:55
box they_them
Wow.
00:23:57
Christine
I'm happy to take some um suggestions because...
00:24:01
box they_them
try the Try the original 13 Ghosts.
00:24:03
jim_phoenix
don't try the original thirteen goes
00:24:04
Christine
yeah Do you know what?
00:24:04
box they_them
I mean, it's fun. It's fun.
00:24:07
Christine
I don't think I can pass it by him though because he's very anti... um anything before...
00:24:11
jim_phoenix
Black and white?
00:24:12
Christine
no, anything before 1999 probably.
00:24:17
box they_them
Oh, past.
00:24:17
Christine
Like he's a very modern, like, you know, like, you know, give me poltergeist and fire starter and all those, but nah.
00:24:18
Jennifer
Oh, wow.
00:24:18
jim_phoenix
Just like my dating life. Ooh.
00:24:26
box they_them
Well, me and Jen are are now turning in our early graves.
00:24:31
Christine
yeah Yeah.
00:24:31
Jennifer
I was gonna say, yeah, no, that'd be hard for me because like my all-time favorite is the Shining, like the old Stanley Kubrick one.
00:24:35
box they_them
Right.
00:24:38
Christine
Yeah, that's.
00:24:38
box they_them
Well, and Jen, you and I go go to the black and whites, too, quite often.
00:24:39
jim_phoenix
And not the remake, yeah.
00:24:43
Jennifer
Oh, yeah, well, that's what I grew up with.
00:24:44
jim_phoenix
Oh.
00:24:46
box they_them
Yeah, the classics.
00:24:47
jim_phoenix
Oh, see, I would say if you like Firestarter, they redid it with Zac Efron.
00:24:48
box they_them
Like there are a few ghosts.
00:24:54
jim_phoenix
They read it like two years ago, and the girl in it looks just like Drew Barrymore.
00:24:56
box they_them
The dream boat.
00:24:58
Christine
What was it called?
00:24:59
jim_phoenix
Firestarter.
00:25:00
box they_them
Fire starter.
00:25:01
jim_phoenix
Yeah, they just redid it.
00:25:01
Christine
Oh yeah, I've seen that one.
00:25:01
jim_phoenix
They relaunched it.
00:25:02
Jennifer
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:02
Christine
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen the new one.
00:25:05
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:25:05
Christine
I think he's just tainted because he just doesn't like the original. He's very difficult.
00:25:12
box they_them
Mmm.
00:25:12
Christine
I'm realizing now. that's from
00:25:15
jim_phoenix
Today's mirror therapy session brought to you by...
00:25:17
box they_them
oh So this could maybe put some some cracks into this foundation.
00:25:20
jim_phoenix
Shit. shit No, I'm kind of like worried, like, okay, whatever you do, k Christine, and don't watch any of the movies we talk about today. Just don't.
00:25:29
Christine
We might just speak to comedies.
00:25:30
box they_them
Yeah, no, don't.
00:25:31
jim_phoenix
Just don't. Yeah, yeah, the perfect. Watch Dale and Tucker versus Evil. Boom. It's comedic.
00:25:36
Christine
Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
00:25:36
box they_them
Perfect.
00:25:38
jim_phoenix
It's got some chops on it.
00:25:40
box they_them
That's a pretty good one.
00:25:41
jim_phoenix
So I'm curious, what would be one movie for each of you, if you can speak for him? What would be one movie that's just a dead out, no. I ain't gonna watch, no.
00:25:51
box they_them
Like, absolutely not.
00:25:51
Christine
wait he He would like absolutely not anything of the Stephen King.
00:25:51
jim_phoenix
Ain't happening.
00:25:52
box they_them
Yeah.
00:25:58
jim_phoenix
Oh wow.
00:25:58
Christine
but i'm back in the death, which are like, that's my jam.
00:26:00
box they_them
Wow.
00:26:02
jim_phoenix
Oh wow.
00:26:02
Jennifer
I like those too.
00:26:03
box they_them
Yeah.
00:26:04
Christine
That's my stuff.
00:26:04
jim_phoenix
Oh wow.
00:26:06
Christine
I love it. i I don't know how you guys feel about this, but I really, really hated, and I love Mia Gough, but I did not like the three, ah the Maxine Pearl X that she did.
00:26:20
Christine
Have you guys seen those?
00:26:20
box they_them
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:22
Christine
Oh, just a bit much for me.
00:26:25
jim_phoenix
Oh, I didn't see those. Where are they? I didn't see it.
00:26:28
Christine
It's got me a goth and it's kind of like they're kind of linked. She kind of plays the same character throughout except for I think Pearl, she does too.
00:26:34
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:26:37
Christine
I don't know. it's It's a bit confusing, but.
00:26:38
box they_them
I think they're Ty West movies.
00:26:42
box they_them
I think he did. I think he did acts to I think.
00:26:44
Christine
That sounds right.
00:26:45
jim_phoenix
Box just like knocking it out of the park today.
00:26:47
Christine
Yeah.
00:26:48
jim_phoenix
Jeez, man. Are you like looking shit up box? Is that why your your owner's dotting it?
00:26:51
box they_them
I know I'm not really a big fan of time lost, so I kind of avoid them.
00:26:56
Christine
Well, me neither.
00:26:56
jim_phoenix
But you know them.
00:26:58
Christine
ah
00:26:59
jim_phoenix
But you know them. So it's OK. There are some hard-nosed for both of you. And that's unfortunate with Stephen King. is It's like even Castle Rock.
00:27:05
box they_them
Yeah, that's classic.
00:27:06
Christine
Oh, I tried.
00:27:08
jim_phoenix
The Castle Rock is the outsider, Holly.
00:27:09
Christine
I tried so he he just looks at me after about an episode and a half a minute. I think this is your thing.
00:27:17
box they_them
Look, Christine.
00:27:17
Christine
i
00:27:20
box they_them
Christine, I'm just going to say this. Christine, I'm going to say this. There's a reason why you're writing for us.
00:27:26
Christine
Okay, yeah.
00:27:28
box they_them
and
00:27:28
jim_phoenix
Oh, yeah.
00:27:29
Christine
That probably explains it.
00:27:30
jim_phoenix
We all have that. We all have that great outlet. OK, well, thanks. Oh, damn, man. Oh, I don't have to follow that. Oh, thank God. I'm like, I'm not going to follow that shit. Box.
00:27:39
Jennifer
I gotta go.
00:27:39
box they_them
<unk> Hi.
00:27:40
jim_phoenix
Oh, bye, Jen.
00:27:41
Christine
Bye.
00:27:41
Jennifer
Bye.
00:27:41
jim_phoenix
Bye bye.
00:27:42
box they_them
Bye, John. and Bye, John.
00:27:43
Jennifer
Take care.
00:27:44
jim_phoenix
Take care.
00:27:44
Jennifer
Have fun.
00:27:46
jim_phoenix
Thanks for coming.
00:27:47
box they_them
Thank you.
00:27:47
Jennifer
Thank you for having me. Take care.
00:27:49
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:27:49
box they_them
As always, of course.
00:27:51
jim_phoenix
Always welcome.
00:27:53
jim_phoenix
Box.
00:27:55
box they_them
Hi. How's it going?
00:27:56
jim_phoenix
Boxalox.
00:27:57
box they_them
Hi. What's up? Okay.
00:27:59
jim_phoenix
So.
00:27:59
box they_them
So I have, I have two. I have two. So I loved this one movie, which is one of my absolute favorites before I met glorious ex spouse.
00:28:12
box they_them
Um, I first and watched it when I was like 15, 16.
00:28:12
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:28:19
box they_them
And then I dated her at like 17 and throughou throughout our 20 years of marriage, I have a quote from her for my review on our website, which I please everybody go to it.
00:28:22
jim_phoenix
Is it Jaws?
00:28:34
box they_them
I love it. It's my magnum opus. And this is from 2020. There is no way that you are ever going to convince me that this is a good movie. And I'm not saying this was the straw that broke.
00:28:49
box they_them
and I'm just kidding. But it was honestly one of the things that I wanted to be a review writer for horror movies because I felt like it deserved a good shake.
00:28:59
jim_phoenix
It was Jaws, wasn't it?
00:28:59
box they_them
And I still do. It was not Jaws. Jaws was beautiful and brilliant. And this is beautiful and brilliant in a different way.
00:29:03
jim_phoenix
Jaws is an absolute trash box.
00:29:07
box they_them
And I watched this um before we met
Contentious Movie Preferences in Relationships
00:29:10
box they_them
today. And I just remembered all the things that I loved about it. And I need to write a follow up to my magnum opus because there's a lot more that I want to write about, but no, no, that's my second story.
00:29:18
jim_phoenix
Oh, fuck, it's philosopher-pastor, isn't it? That's not? so What the shit is it?
00:29:23
box they_them
That's my second story. No, this is surf Nazis must die.
00:29:28
jim_phoenix
oh Oh, I still have not.
00:29:30
box they_them
Yeah. yeah
00:29:33
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:29:34
box they_them
I, I had a doll commissioned by yeah, commissioned for the protagonist of this film.
00:29:34
jim_phoenix
Uh, you had a doll who is not Hitler.
00:29:40
Christine
me
00:29:44
jim_phoenix
I hope.
00:29:46
box they_them
so No, no, no, no, the Nazis are bad.
00:29:46
jim_phoenix
Okay. Hitler's not the protagonist. I got it.
00:29:48
box they_them
The Nazis are bad and they're bad and they're bad.
00:29:50
jim_phoenix
Oh, wait, wait. The Nazis are bad in the movie only or the Nazis are a bad period.
00:29:53
box they_them
Yes. All. They're bad. Period.
00:29:58
jim_phoenix
ah bad Okay.
00:29:58
box they_them
You can read all about it in my, cause I do go into neo-naziism.
00:30:01
jim_phoenix
Read about Nazis.
00:30:03
box they_them
I do go into the rise of it. I do go in, again, you got to take this from a 2020 perspective.
00:30:09
jim_phoenix
All right.
00:30:09
box they_them
So a lot has changed within these few years, but.
00:30:13
jim_phoenix
Bill, 25.
00:30:13
box they_them
I do go on about talking about racism within Neo-Nazi and the Neo-Nazi community and how it actually kind of does link back to this film and what a great job it does at portraying them as the villains, misguided villains that can't get their shit together and how the protagonist is completely the opposite of them and is the champion of the movie.
00:30:29
jim_phoenix
No.
00:30:37
jim_phoenix
So, is there surfing in this?
00:30:40
box they_them
There is, there is, and they're surfing gangs.
00:30:40
Christine
Okay.
00:30:41
jim_phoenix
There is.
00:30:41
Christine
Or is that the end?
00:30:43
jim_phoenix
Wait, wait, Christine, have you seen this movie?
00:30:43
box they_them
They're surfing gangs.
00:30:45
Christine
No but I'm just looking it up and it looks fantastic.
00:30:47
box they_them
but
00:30:47
jim_phoenix
You're looking at it right now, okay. Oh no, not the watch, oh man, not the watches, no.
00:30:50
box they_them
Tooby. Our Lord of Master Tooby has it on constantly.
00:30:54
Christine
and
00:30:56
box they_them
I did find the record on eBay, which I'm going to purchase because I'm going to enjoy listening to these.
00:31:01
Christine
Is it like Beach Boys type music?
00:31:01
jim_phoenix
There's a record.
00:31:03
box they_them
There's a record.
00:31:06
Christine
What kind of music is this?
00:31:06
box they_them
No, it's all synth music.
00:31:08
box they_them
It's like, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, like, synth-y, like, aggressive kind of music.
00:31:11
jim_phoenix
Don't do don't do don't do the house.
00:31:14
Christine
very 80s.
00:31:15
box they_them
It's it's very 80s. It was by trauma, but it doesn't have the same trauma feel as the other ones, because it is very human. It is about the the monstrous side of humanity, and basically how we can treat each other when obviously things go awry and you know people are racist or you know homophobic bigotry all this stuff and how one person and she has all that weight on her and she manages to be victorious against them and she's a senior citizen she's a black female widow senior citizen who is the protagonist of this story and I love it
00:32:04
jim_phoenix
Huh, huh, that's kind of weird there.
00:32:05
box they_them
I do. I do.
00:32:07
Christine
This, I mean, I would like to, she breaks out of her retirement looking for this for tonight.
00:32:10
box they_them
She's...
00:32:14
box they_them
Yep.
00:32:15
jim_phoenix
What, what?
00:32:16
box they_them
Yep. To avenge her son that they had killed.
00:32:17
jim_phoenix
so
00:32:21
jim_phoenix
1997 slightly it's it better rating than oh I just think I just oh 87 I'm so yeah 87 my my glasses ain't for seeing you know I mean
00:32:24
box they_them
It's gotta be older than that. It's gotta be older than that. It's in the 80s. I think 88?
00:32:30
Christine
Seven.
00:32:31
box they_them
87. 87.
00:32:35
box they_them
It's okay, but it's just, it's a fun romp. It's kind of like warriors that there are different like gangs on the beach. Um, there is a lot of like homophobia in it. Um, internalized, I think homophobia. There is like, I said racism, but it's so, Gail Neely just presents mama Washington as just this incredible like powerhouse and she's fantastic. And yes, I i commissioned a doll.
00:33:05
box they_them
of her.
00:33:06
jim_phoenix
What?
00:33:06
box they_them
and she's
00:33:07
jim_phoenix
Okay. I have the assets.
00:33:08
Christine
You're going to have to show us the double.
00:33:09
jim_phoenix
I'm looking at the poster. Yeah. Do you have the doll box?
00:33:14
box they_them
ah it's She's packed up, unfortunately. She's in my stuff.
00:33:17
jim_phoenix
Wait, wait box.
00:33:18
box they_them
But I did.
00:33:18
jim_phoenix
Is that doll actually on a belt? Is it cursed?
00:33:20
box they_them
No, but actually, if you look up my stuff in Haunted MTL, I did cut a trailer of the doll.
00:33:21
jim_phoenix
Will it kill people or kill Nazis?
00:33:28
jim_phoenix
Did you fuck?
00:33:29
box they_them
So you can see, I've made a whole small video.
00:33:30
jim_phoenix
I need to.
00:33:34
box they_them
about, um, serve Nazis having a sequel. And I put that on the website. So you can find that on YouTube.
00:33:40
jim_phoenix
Did I block this shit out? Are you telling the truth?
00:33:42
box they_them
I think you did like this shit up. No, you can find this on the website.
00:33:43
jim_phoenix
Shit. Shit.
00:33:46
box they_them
Like, I love this movie.
00:33:47
jim_phoenix
For real?
00:33:49
box they_them
I love it. I love it.
00:33:51
jim_phoenix
God damn it.
00:33:51
box they_them
And, um, yeah, the first time I tried, okay, so this was my litmus test too, because I love the movie. Obviously it's cheesy. Obviously, but it has, I feel like, a lot of heart in this really good message.
00:34:03
box they_them
And every time I showed it to people, they're like, that's trash. It's not good. And I'm like, you're not seeing it. I'm going to be a fucking reviewer and prove you all wrong. But the first time that I showed it to my ex, uh, she started making out with me so she wouldn't have to watch it.
00:34:21
box they_them
And I should have seen the red flag there.
00:34:22
jim_phoenix
Wait, that doesn't kill your life.
00:34:25
Christine
not a relationship
00:34:28
jim_phoenix
Yeah, I just woke up with a good builder then.
00:34:28
box they_them
I mean, I know, but again, like throughout the 20 years, she would not watch it with me. The whole thing.
00:34:35
jim_phoenix
Hold on, hold on, Fox.
00:34:36
box they_them
And, um, she refused.
00:34:37
jim_phoenix
Fox, I have a question now, I'm so sorry.
00:34:38
box they_them
Yes.
00:34:41
jim_phoenix
So you're saying the movie is so bad, someone rather make out with you than watch the movie.
00:34:41
box they_them
Yes.
00:34:45
box they_them
Yes.
00:34:48
box they_them
Yes.
00:34:50
jim_phoenix
But that's not, you're not selling, okay.
00:34:50
box they_them
Yes. No, I'm, I know.
00:34:52
Christine
This is not a relationship kill event.
00:34:53
box they_them
And that's fine.
00:34:53
jim_phoenix
I'm gonna help you out in dating life.
00:34:54
box they_them
Like I'm not great at, I'm not great at making out.
00:34:55
jim_phoenix
You can't be saying that.
00:34:57
box they_them
I'm not great at making out.
00:34:57
jim_phoenix
You're not great at me. Don't put that on your profile either.
00:35:00
box they_them
I do! Like, is that why?
00:35:01
jim_phoenix
Do you really?
00:35:02
Christine
Don't put that out of the world.
00:35:02
jim_phoenix
Oh my god.
00:35:03
box they_them
Is that why? Is that why I don't get dates?
00:35:06
jim_phoenix
Oh yeah, no, we need to go through your profile, man.
00:35:08
Christine
No, it might just be because you're showing people surf Nazis on the first day.
00:35:08
jim_phoenix
We need to...
00:35:09
box they_them
Okay, okay, okay.
00:35:12
jim_phoenix
Yes.
00:35:13
jim_phoenix
Do you like surf nazis? That's actually the Tinder profile, surf nazis. It was too big to...
00:35:13
box they_them
Alright, look, if you- if you can't- if you cannot love me at my surf Nazis, you cannot have me at my worst, or bust, or anything in between, because this is- that
00:35:18
Christine
That's why.
00:35:22
jim_phoenix
Oh, that cuts. That cuts. But did you see the poster that the poster is just a dude looked like a Nazi with a silver hand going over a blonde woman.
00:35:28
box they_them
looks great.
00:35:32
box they_them
ye
00:35:34
box they_them
Yes. And I actually, if you go again to my review, I talk all about it as well. It's fun.
00:35:41
jim_phoenix
but But there's no mom in Washington. I thought it was named that right.
00:35:44
box they_them
I know because it's just, it's an 80s poster, man. Like people take liberties.
00:35:49
jim_phoenix
Take liberties by not showing the protagonist on it?
00:35:51
box they_them
Yeah.
00:35:51
jim_phoenix
That's a lot of liberties.
00:35:52
box they_them
I mean. It comes out as as a surprise then, you know? You're like, you're not expecting it. You're like, oh, who's this ah lady? This old senior citizen lady. Surely she's not going to be the protagonist and get a gun and hunt Nazis.
00:36:05
jim_phoenix
She's smoking a cigarette this side of her mouth through most of this film.
00:36:06
box they_them
You would be wrong. Oh, hell yeah.
00:36:08
jim_phoenix
I love it.
00:36:09
box they_them
She is.
00:36:10
jim_phoenix
Oh, it looks like a, is it a blunt?
00:36:10
box they_them
I mean, she's, I think it's a point.
00:36:12
jim_phoenix
No, it's a swisher, yeah, it might be.
00:36:12
box they_them
Yeah.
00:36:15
box they_them
Yeah. I mean, she smokes it in the old hood, like folks home and she tells them I'm going to like, liven up you bitches. And she makes friends there. It's really fun.
00:36:26
jim_phoenix
Sure. When she does it, it's really fun. It makes friends, but I do it. No, I can't do that.
00:36:31
box they_them
Yeah, you gotta do it in an old folk song, obviously.
00:36:32
jim_phoenix
So ah maybe, maybe. So if that was the first one. I'm not going to have your but really but in relationship that way, but for the movie, not the.
00:36:37
box they_them
That was a hard one. Five out of five, a million out of five.
00:36:43
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:36:43
box they_them
Oh yeah, for that, that's lame. Now anybody who dates me, they have to at least watch it and have come up with one nice thing about it.
00:36:51
jim_phoenix
One nice thing about it.
00:36:52
box they_them
One nice thing about it.
00:36:53
jim_phoenix
I like the way you cast through it.
00:36:54
box they_them
Um, but the second one, and this was semi recently, so getting back into the dating scene, of course, you know, a lot of people like horror movies.
00:36:54
jim_phoenix
No.
00:36:57
jim_phoenix
yeah yes
00:37:03
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:37:04
box they_them
So I always put that out there.
00:37:06
jim_phoenix
They do shit.
00:37:07
box they_them
Yeah. Girls do.
00:37:09
jim_phoenix
Really? Oh, okay.
00:37:10
box they_them
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so I put that out there, you know, like, Oh, I love horror movies. And then you get into the nitty gritty of it. And then there was one time that so ah one of the girls said like, Hey,
00:37:22
box they_them
Um, I really love dinosaur movies and like, I'm like, Hey, me too. I love dinosaur movies.
00:37:26
jim_phoenix
No.
00:37:29
box they_them
And she's like, ha ha. I had to like watch this one the other day and it was terrible. And it was called like, Velocipaster. And I'm like, I love Velocipaster.
00:37:40
box they_them
It's hilarious. Instantly ghosted me. Unmatched.
00:37:46
Christine
Ouch.
00:37:47
jim_phoenix
Box, box. When someone says they like dinosaur movies, they mean Jurassic Park.
00:37:48
box they_them
Yeah.
00:37:51
Christine
Yeah, generally.
00:37:51
box they_them
And so do I.
00:37:52
jim_phoenix
Maybe Flintstones, maybe Flintstones.
00:37:52
box they_them
So do I. I love Jurassic Park 2.
00:37:56
jim_phoenix
But no, no, no, no, not to the end.
00:37:56
box they_them
I love it too.
00:37:59
jim_phoenix
They mean Jurassic Park.
00:37:59
Christine
Yeah.
00:38:00
jim_phoenix
That's all they mean by dinosaur movies. They mean, if they say movies, plural, is to franchise a Jurassic Park.
00:38:03
box they_them
let's and and That's a a franchise. There's so many other ones though, you know?
00:38:10
jim_phoenix
Name other dinosaur movies that people want to see, that people want to see.
00:38:12
box they_them
Future War. Oh. Um, people who like MST3K.
00:38:18
jim_phoenix
No, no, no, no, name the movies.
00:38:19
box they_them
Which is a great segue, which is a great segue into yours.
00:38:22
jim_phoenix
I'm not.
00:38:22
box they_them
Okay, what about that Adam Driver one, about dinosaurs?
00:38:25
jim_phoenix
There's an Adam Driver dinosaur movie? That was Star Wars, motherfucker.
00:38:27
box they_them
No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:38:29
Christine
That was 65.
00:38:29
box they_them
There is like one where he goes into the future, and there's dinosaurs, and he fights the dinosaurs.
00:38:32
jim_phoenix
but then Oh, Star Wars was a long time ago of Galaxy Far, Far Away.
00:38:36
box they_them
ah No, no, no, no, no. No, it's an Adam Driver one.
00:38:39
jim_phoenix
The marriage story? That one?
00:38:41
box they_them
No!
00:38:42
jim_phoenix
That's not a dinosaur, that's Scarlett Johansson. Jeez.
00:38:46
box they_them
She's not a dinosaur?
00:38:47
jim_phoenix
60.
00:38:48
box they_them
Yes!
00:38:49
jim_phoenix
Okay, yeah, I didn't watch that.
00:38:50
box they_them
Yeah, yeah.
00:38:50
jim_phoenix
I didn't watch either of those.
00:38:53
box they_them
You didn't watch any of them, my bad.
00:38:55
jim_phoenix
No, my life, I've got too many things to do in my life.
00:38:57
box they_them
I should- I should write, like, a dinosaur movie list at some point.
00:39:02
jim_phoenix
You could punish me one day, and we can do the best dinosaur movies ever.
00:39:05
box they_them
Va- Velocipaster.
00:39:08
jim_phoenix
I'm like, shh, I need to watch some stuff.
00:39:09
box they_them
Tina- Wait, wait, wait, no, Tammy and the T-Rex. That's another dinosaur movie.
00:39:13
jim_phoenix
I've seen Tammy and T-Rex who drove joe Bob Ricks.
00:39:16
box they_them
Okay. All right, there's that one.
00:39:17
jim_phoenix
I've seen that one.
00:39:18
box they_them
What about the Whoopi Goldberg one? That one's really weird.
00:39:20
jim_phoenix
There's a Whoopi Covert one?
00:39:22
box they_them
Yeah, she was contractually obligated.
00:39:23
jim_phoenix
Sister Act? Those are nuns.
00:39:25
box they_them
No, no, no, no.
00:39:26
jim_phoenix
Jumping Jack Flash?
00:39:27
box they_them
It was no, she gave a verbal agreement and then he took her to court over it.
00:39:27
jim_phoenix
That's like a British spy.
00:39:34
jim_phoenix
That's Ted Danson.
00:39:35
box they_them
And so she had to do, she had to do the movie.
00:39:37
jim_phoenix
No.
00:39:40
jim_phoenix
I can't wait to do a star like that.
00:39:40
box they_them
Yeah. and it's
00:39:41
jim_phoenix
I've got to do this movie now. i Sign up for it. all right ah Mick McGee was going to say something about a movie that
00:39:46
box they_them
yeah
00:39:50
jim_phoenix
He found a movie that broke up his parents' relationship. I guess it was just porn.
00:39:55
box they_them
I think it might have been dinosaur porn, to be honest.
00:39:55
jim_phoenix
It wasn't horror.
00:39:59
jim_phoenix
It might be, yo.
00:40:00
box they_them
But, you know, I gave you a great segue.
00:40:02
jim_phoenix
Little arms.
00:40:04
box they_them
I gave you a great segue, though.
00:40:05
jim_phoenix
Yeah, fuck.
00:40:05
box they_them
I said, MSV3K.
00:40:06
jim_phoenix
I can't right say it wasn't. Yeah, and I know. I know. I know what you're talking about.
00:40:10
box they_them
um and how many How many times?
00:40:10
jim_phoenix
I know.
00:40:12
box they_them
how many Oh, I watched it the other day, actually.
00:40:14
jim_phoenix
Shit. Did you really? With somebody?
00:40:16
box they_them
I did.
00:40:16
jim_phoenix
With somebody? but somebody Exactly.
00:40:17
box they_them
No. Well, my cat. my
00:40:20
jim_phoenix
Fuckin' don't watch your cat, man. Don't shink, shink, shink. Okay, so there's a movie that Box made me watch for horror.
00:40:29
box they_them
gently We gently made you.
00:40:30
jim_phoenix
Dude, you're like, we have to review this.
00:40:31
box they_them
Gently made you.
00:40:34
jim_phoenix
It's a great horror movie. I'm like, I don't know.
00:40:36
box they_them
I said it's the worst movie, but it's not the worst movie I found in the- No, I- Well, I don't know.
00:40:36
jim_phoenix
I don't know. Fuck it.
00:40:42
jim_phoenix
You found Vlastopaster.
00:40:44
box they_them
Well, the same people I think did, um, Baby Ghost, and that was pretty hard.
00:40:44
jim_phoenix
Oh, you hate Baby Ghost?
00:40:48
box they_them
And it- It's just- Ghost Ed still- No.
00:40:50
jim_phoenix
But ghost dad's okay. there are no There are no ghost family members that are good. Like baby ghost, sister ghost, mother ghost.
00:40:57
box they_them
No. Mother Ghost.
00:41:02
jim_phoenix
You know what's good?
00:41:03
box they_them
Okay.
00:41:04
jim_phoenix
13 ghosts. The actual one that people watched, the old one from the 90s.
00:41:05
box they_them
Yeah, the old one. The old one. You're right.
00:41:08
Christine
The real one.
00:41:09
jim_phoenix
The real one from the 90s, yes, yes, yes.
00:41:11
box they_them
No, no, no, no.
00:41:13
jim_phoenix
All right. So the one we're tiptoeing around is of course roller gator.
00:41:15
box they_them
you
00:41:19
jim_phoenix
That's allegedly, let me see if I can bring this one up. but Roller gator is a movie that should not exist.
00:41:22
box they_them
Is it a movie?
00:41:25
jim_phoenix
It looks like a,
00:41:26
box they_them
Is it a movie that
00:41:28
jim_phoenix
Well, okay, it's basically a dude who wanted to get with the girl. It's like, I could put you in a movie, and that movie turned out to be a Rulogator, which is ah like shot with a VHS camcorder.
00:41:36
box they_them
ah yeah
00:41:39
jim_phoenix
I think it was pretty much a camcorder.
00:41:40
box they_them
It was pretty much a camcorder.
00:41:41
jim_phoenix
It's 96.
00:41:42
box they_them
i It was probably <unk>s probably shot without any permits at all.
00:41:47
jim_phoenix
Oh, permits, permissions, people's knowledge. It was basically Bowfinger with Eddie Murphy, you know.
00:41:54
Christine
Is this supposed to be scary?
00:41:57
jim_phoenix
Bach said it was scary.
00:41:59
box they_them
It is scary.
00:41:59
jim_phoenix
And here's a storyline.
00:42:01
box they_them
That alligator, that gator, is terrifying.
00:42:03
Christine
it It reminds me of that old children's show, Dinosaurs, and they were like, people dressed up.
00:42:05
jim_phoenix
Oh,
00:42:10
box they_them
Okay, that was a million times.
00:42:11
Christine
Do you remember that in the 90s?
00:42:14
box they_them
It was a million times better, not the mama.
00:42:14
jim_phoenix
I do remember that. I do remember that.
00:42:16
Christine
That's what it looks like.
00:42:17
jim_phoenix
Yeah, you're right.
00:42:18
Christine
It looks like something to watch at the cinema and laugh.
00:42:18
jim_phoenix
It kind of does.
00:42:20
box they_them
But it, it doesn't though. It just, it mouth is the only thing that moves and it wraps.
00:42:25
jim_phoenix
i think I think what happened, yeah, no, it's not even the hand puppet.
00:42:26
Christine
Is it just?
00:42:26
box they_them
It does. Not even that, not even that. it ba It's it's barely.
00:42:31
jim_phoenix
It's not, yeah.
00:42:33
Christine
Is it a guy dressed up?
00:42:34
jim_phoenix
I think, no, no, no.
00:42:34
box they_them
it
00:42:37
box they_them
No.
00:42:37
Christine
What is it? Is it a step?
00:42:38
box they_them
eat
00:42:39
jim_phoenix
Might as well be a teddy bear made out of styrofoam, or not styrofoam, like foam rubber.
00:42:40
box they_them
and like ah
00:42:46
box they_them
oh
00:42:46
jim_phoenix
It looks like they went to the dinosaur a lot and they stole like something that was like discarded, doesn't work anymore, and it's like, where are we making movement from this?
00:42:53
Christine
Did you just say dinosaur lot?
00:42:54
box they_them
It barely works.
00:42:56
jim_phoenix
Yeah, they like to, you know, this would keep all the dinosaurs there.
00:42:56
box they_them
Yeah, just, you know, a dinosaur lot.
00:42:58
Christine
and where they keep all the dinosaurs.
00:43:01
box they_them
Right, right, yeah, absolutely.
00:43:04
jim_phoenix
It's, this is how bad it is. This is the storyline. A teenage girl tries to help a small purple jive-chalking alligator escape the clutches of a greedy carnival owner, as well as an assortment of characters so he can be reunited with his owner.
00:43:21
jim_phoenix
And one of the top three tags is acoustic guitar.
00:43:21
box they_them
It has- It has an Astabuzz. It has an Astabuzz.
00:43:27
jim_phoenix
It does. It was got kind of like the dollar store sale bargain bin on fire in the background.
00:43:31
box they_them
He's- He's Martin Sheen's uncle.
00:43:37
jim_phoenix
Estes. Sorry, Joe. Actually, Joe Estes is going to be joining us next week. So I like Joe Estes. Yeah.
00:43:45
box they_them
I- I like Joe Astabuzz. I do.
00:43:47
jim_phoenix
we We actually do like Joe Estes. We do.
00:43:50
box they_them
Bless that man. I do.
00:43:51
jim_phoenix
Right.
00:43:51
box they_them
He has such a passion for anything he's in. He will oversell that shit like crazy. He was in Baby Ghost 2 and he- Baby Ghost really did disturb me in a lot of ways.
00:44:04
jim_phoenix
Well, this movie broke up, not one, not two, not three, not even four, not even five.
00:44:08
box they_them
I kept watching it.
00:44:14
Christine
Why are you playing it for people by this day?
00:44:16
box they_them
So like, it's like a litmus.
00:44:18
jim_phoenix
Because the, yeah, so the first time you're like, oh my God, this movie just broke up my fucking relationship. And the second time I'm like, holy shit, again. Because you then but you just kind of make an impression, you know, the second time was kind of like,
00:44:30
box they_them
so
00:44:32
jim_phoenix
ah yeah and I was dating this person, but they broke up over this movie.
00:44:36
Christine
Well, you know what to do. Yeah, you know, when whenever you want to try and break up with someone, the relationship's feeling a little bit stale, you know what to do. You just drag this movie out and fix it.
00:44:45
jim_phoenix
Pop this shit in.
00:44:45
box they_them
like zaka Exactly. Exactly. I'm being like, I watched this six times.
00:44:49
jim_phoenix
yeah And that that's the thing, is like I don't even pretend it's good. I tell them it's the biggest piece of shit they'll ever watch. And they don't believe me.
00:44:56
Christine
And still sit down and watch it.
00:44:59
jim_phoenix
first yeah And they're like,
00:44:59
Christine
It's like a challenge really, isn't it?
00:45:01
jim_phoenix
Challenge fucking accepted. I'm watching this piece of shit with you right now. And like, we we can't, we can't. It's like, man, it's not like fucking snuff porn. It's not actually a God movie.
00:45:12
jim_phoenix
I'm like, shit.
00:45:13
box they_them
What's a wrapping purple alligator?
00:45:15
jim_phoenix
No, no, no, fuck yeah.
00:45:15
box they_them
and yeah
00:45:17
jim_phoenix
It does not rap. It says it's gonna rap. It says it's jive talking.
00:45:20
box they_them
and
00:45:21
jim_phoenix
It's actually roller gator. There ain't no roller blades. There's no rapping. It's just purple.
00:45:26
Christine
Yeah, boy, why is it roller gay now?
00:45:26
box they_them
No, there's a ninja. There's a ninja. Look, she rollerblades.
00:45:30
jim_phoenix
like I think the ninja has no wait. Yes, someone does roll her skates, but not the roller.
00:45:34
box they_them
She she.
00:45:35
jim_phoenix
She does okay, but not the Gator And and the ninja who is practicing ninja sticks and on the beach dressed in full ninja garb Yeah, bailey i there's a ghost in it
00:45:36
box they_them
ah Wait, I think. And then there's a person with a slingshot.
00:45:44
box they_them
There's a ninja.
00:45:47
box they_them
who
00:45:48
Christine
This sounds like a five-year-old just grabbed all the concepts.
00:45:48
box they_them
me
00:45:55
box they_them
Honestly, I mean, a five-year-old has better storytelling, I feel. Like, I feel captivated by a five-year-old. This is difficult.
00:46:05
jim_phoenix
Yeah, this the user review kind of sums it up by Jeffrey Gaughan on IMDb. Should be a zero. Only because IMDb doesn't allow a zero to get a star. I imagine the movie was made with the idea that it would somehow catch on as a cult classic and sell it on some beta max VHS copies.
00:46:22
jim_phoenix
And that's true. I mean, we've done movies in the past with VHS.
00:46:24
box they_them
It's not for children.
00:46:27
jim_phoenix
Why not?
00:46:28
box they_them
It's not for children.
00:46:29
jim_phoenix
ah Why?
00:46:30
box they_them
That's terrifying. He's terrifying.
00:46:31
Christine
Is it actually terrifying though?
00:46:32
jim_phoenix
is Is...
00:46:33
Christine
Like could I sit down with my 12 year old and watch this movie?
00:46:34
jim_phoenix
God no.
00:46:34
box they_them
He's terrifying. Joe is terrifying. Joe is like screaming all the time.
00:46:41
jim_phoenix
Oh, almost kayfabe. But it's only some dude screaming.
00:46:44
Christine
He it it says purple alligator.
00:46:45
box they_them
What was that, Christine?
00:46:47
jim_phoenix
why is
00:46:49
box they_them
Oh.
00:46:53
box they_them
yeah he's is more of a dick he's just a no he's toxic he's very toxic i will say the riff the riff tracks are funny i feel like the riff yeah i felt like the riff tracks were funny wow okay i don't
00:46:53
jim_phoenix
ah
00:46:54
Christine
Does he make jokes? Is he funny?
00:47:01
jim_phoenix
I've never been in a state of mind to make this movie good or funny or even kind of like palpable.
00:47:06
Christine
It has its own fandom.
00:47:12
jim_phoenix
Really? I have not seen the riff track version. No, damn it. I'm going full. I'm going straight in. You see this is the worst wall horror movie in the world.
00:47:22
box they_them
yeah apparently apparently like i think honestly the this is kind of like the ring for relationships you watch it and they have to break up with you that's why it's scary something
00:47:24
jim_phoenix
I'm going straight for the jugular on this guy. I'm not going to mess around the riff track.
00:47:36
jim_phoenix
and Seven. Yeah.
00:47:38
Christine
that day.
00:47:39
jim_phoenix
It don't take seven days. It don't take seven days box. The last time this happened was this year.
00:47:48
jim_phoenix
I didn't tell you about, I didn't tell you about it.
00:47:49
box they_them
so still It's still recent.
00:47:51
jim_phoenix
I didn't tell you about it.
00:47:52
box they_them
The curse continues.
00:47:53
jim_phoenix
Yeah. In fact, always said is we're going to watch this movie. They googled it and said, fuck off.
00:48:03
jim_phoenix
So i i've I've actually got lost count in how many relationships now. Yeah, Christine, yes.
00:48:08
Christine
Do you enjoy the movie though?
00:48:11
jim_phoenix
Fuck no.
00:48:12
Christine
No.
00:48:13
jim_phoenix
God, no. If someone, if I sat down and I go, oh, you want to go out and like, ah and a girl puts this on and where're her place, she puts this on.
00:48:23
jim_phoenix
I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?
00:48:24
Christine
So this is what's happening to you.
00:48:25
jim_phoenix
you I was sort of like questioning my life choices.
00:48:27
box they_them
really
00:48:29
jim_phoenix
Yeah, but I'm up, except for the first time, because I said, but okay, the first time is on box, because I said, I have to watch this, and she was like, the girl was like, oh yeah, I'll watch it with you, why not?
00:48:30
Christine
You're scaring them off.
00:48:35
box they_them
look
00:48:41
jim_phoenix
Like, I didn't know how bad it was. After that, it's kind of, I warned them, like, this is a piece of shit, it breaks up every relationship.
00:48:46
box they_them
Yes,
00:48:47
jim_phoenix
Oh my God, are they using this movie to break up with me?
00:48:50
box they_them
yeah
00:48:51
jim_phoenix
Do you think, oh my God. Because Christina was saying the dude with the opposite, if I wanted to break up with them, the watcher would be.
00:48:52
box they_them
I think right
00:48:57
jim_phoenix
But if I say this is the worst movie ever,
00:48:57
box they_them
Look, I think it's just cursed. I think this is just a cursed movie. It breaks up relationships.
00:49:03
jim_phoenix
It might, I want to see this in the last drive-in. I want the, I will pay to put this on the last drive-in just to see how many people's relationships explode the next day.
00:49:10
box they_them
and but Yeah, it would be a phenomenon. It really would be.
00:49:16
jim_phoenix
Mass breakups.
00:49:17
Christine
It could just happen right there in the drive in.
00:49:18
box they_them
I think that's why it's scary.
00:49:18
jim_phoenix
I'll be like, I'm buying energy. Yeah. Like, why? I can't do it.
00:49:22
Christine
Yeah, just a lot of cars driving out with single people and left there, and were standing around.
00:49:23
box they_them
but it's
00:49:25
jim_phoenix
Dude, I should, that's brilliant.
00:49:28
box they_them
Alright, right. like
00:49:29
Christine
Wow.
00:49:30
jim_phoenix
Joe Bob's doing one in October, and I bet I can put this as an indie movie.
00:49:30
box they_them
not
00:49:35
jim_phoenix
I'll have to lie and say it's mine. Like, this is my indie submission, Joe Bob. Play it.
00:49:42
box they_them
I'm he hasn't, but I mean, it it is...
00:49:45
jim_phoenix
Fucking played things. Son of a bitch.
00:49:47
box they_them
...burst.
00:49:48
jim_phoenix
Things.
00:49:50
box they_them
And it's- it- It doesn't bring people together.
00:49:50
jim_phoenix
Not the thing. Things.
00:49:53
box they_them
It's like speed dating. It's the opposite of speed dating. You watch it, you're done.
00:49:56
jim_phoenix
Yeah. um Shit, you know what challenge accepted.
00:49:57
box they_them
Immediately.
00:50:00
jim_phoenix
I'm putting this on my tinder profile. yeah
00:50:03
box they_them
so You must watch the Roolergator.
00:50:04
Christine
You know, you're asking for trouble because there's going to be some fans out there that are going to really want to be dating all the Gator fans.
00:50:05
jim_phoenix
partially Yeah Oh, yeah, I know like but I don't know what the fuck happened there You're right, that'll be my luck to my god Well
00:50:16
box they_them
I think the Roolergator fans are gonna be scary people, you know, and that's fine. But I i mean, i'm I'm part of it, but I have to watch it through the riff tracks. But I have watched it willingly like four times.
00:50:31
jim_phoenix
Dude, how did you get through it? I can't. I watched it once willingly. The other times, I didn't like it. I was like, this.
00:50:38
box they_them
but Okay, I will be honest, I might have been inebriated the last time and I needed something that was just...
00:50:44
Christine
It sounds like that kind of maneuver.
00:50:46
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:50:47
box they_them
Yeah, like, the Yeti movie scared me too much. But I went to Roller Gator and it was like a comfort. It was like coming home.
00:50:58
box they_them
Like not to good home, not to like a loving home.
00:51:01
jim_phoenix
the homes on fire. You know, you can't wait to be, be later on.
00:51:03
box they_them
Like, but if there's that nostalgia of like, oh, this is garbage.
00:51:07
jim_phoenix
Oh, that's where the meth stain went.
00:51:08
box they_them
And this is really cool.
00:51:12
box they_them
I think that was fine.
00:51:13
jim_phoenix
It's a meth stain on your love life. Uh, I ain't going to give no star rating of this.
00:51:16
box they_them
the
00:51:20
jim_phoenix
I think you're right. It's a curse movie.
00:51:21
box they_them
I think, I think it's a five star in a breakup capacity. Like it's so far, like, yeah, like what?
00:51:26
jim_phoenix
God,
00:51:28
Christine
Well, it's got 100%.
00:51:31
box they_them
Five zero? Like,
00:51:32
jim_phoenix
Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a batting of like a hundred. It's perfect.
00:51:35
box they_them
but
00:51:36
jim_phoenix
If you want to break up, you just go get roller gator right now.
00:51:38
box they_them
Yes.
00:51:39
Christine
You could sell it.
00:51:40
box they_them
Exactly.
00:51:40
Christine
You should get some copies and I'm sure that there's some people out there that are looking for a way yeah ah to break up.
00:51:40
box they_them
This.
00:51:46
box they_them
Oh,
00:51:46
jim_phoenix
I made someone watch. I remember now I made someone watch this at my alter egos, uh, placement of employment will say, and they're like, what
00:51:55
box they_them
no.
Audience Engagement and Social Media Stories
00:51:56
jim_phoenix
did you do to me?
00:51:57
jim_phoenix
Like, yo, dude, I didn't, I warned you, but you said you were hardcore.
00:51:58
box they_them
Yeah.
00:52:01
jim_phoenix
The roller getter. You get through that.
00:52:03
box they_them
It's the Ringo of. a break of relationships it really is it's gonna get you no instagram us insta oh oh i mean okay okay
00:52:08
jim_phoenix
Yeah. Absolutely. okay so that's that that's ah if if If you have a movie that broke you up, I honestly do want to know. I won't say tweet at us, but we're on Twitter. So, thread us.
00:52:20
jim_phoenix
Insta us, thread us. We're on Facebook now. We're on Facebook now.
00:52:24
Christine
Are we?
00:52:26
jim_phoenix
Yeah, I know. That's what I said too. I'm like, we are? Shit. ah They let us out. I had to get an account for the books. I said screw it up.
00:52:33
box they_them
So if you, so a few boomers really like.
00:52:38
jim_phoenix
Okay. I don't know. I i want to see this on a lifetime channel. I want to see the full, I want to see the direct, you know what?
00:52:43
box they_them
Wow.
00:52:45
jim_phoenix
Maybe the director is cut for roller gators in the case of mass.
00:52:46
box they_them
Director's cut.
00:52:50
box they_them
I think the director's cut is going to be like 20 hours and it's, it's really like one of those art like.
00:52:50
jim_phoenix
Maybe we'll get Donald Jackson on.
00:53:00
box they_them
expansion things where you have to just endure it and then there's a support group at the end of it and that's the art like yes exactly it's paint drying and fact honestly yeah maybe that's fair thank you
00:53:02
jim_phoenix
Passion pride.
00:53:06
jim_phoenix
It's just a fucking Andy Warhol time movie where it's just a clock. Yeah. Okay. So I dig it. I wish this paint drying. That'd be less painful. I dig this very much and I'm not going to give it starving, but we usually do some plugs. If Christine, if you have any charities off the top of your head, do you want to give love to.
00:53:32
Christine
Not that I can think of. You dumped that on me at the last minute. Thank you.
00:53:35
jim_phoenix
I know, I know.
00:53:36
box they_them
I know. He always does.
00:53:36
jim_phoenix
I forgot to set it up. I forgot to set it up as on me.
00:53:37
box they_them
He always does. He always does.
00:53:39
jim_phoenix
I always forget.
00:53:39
Christine
I'll be ready next time.
00:53:40
box they_them
You could plug you could plug yourself on the, what like, what are you working on, on the website?
00:53:41
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:53:44
jim_phoenix
Yeah. What do you work on the website? Jinx.
00:53:46
Christine
What am I working on? I am working on... Oh, what am I working on? I've only just posted yesterday. So, i yeah, so there's a new one up there.
00:53:53
jim_phoenix
Yay.
00:53:57
box they_them
What was it?
00:53:57
Christine
Wasn't great.
00:53:59
jim_phoenix
That was good.
00:54:01
Christine
It was The Bloody Chamber by Angela Carter.
00:54:06
box they_them
hi
00:54:06
Christine
I had some difficulty getting through it.
00:54:06
jim_phoenix
And judge.
00:54:09
Christine
It's an oldie, but they keep re-releasing it as a classic. So I thought, let's give this a go. And it was a little bit, um you know, when your mind wanders because there's so much heavy description and then you have to go back and figure out what just happened because you forgot to concentrate.
00:54:20
box they_them
for
00:54:25
jim_phoenix
Yes.
00:54:26
box they_them
You're talking about the material, not the review. The review is great.
00:54:28
Christine
Ah.
00:54:29
jim_phoenix
No. the No, the view is perfect.
00:54:30
box they_them
It's stellar.
00:54:30
Christine
ah
00:54:30
box they_them
they should
00:54:31
Christine
and The material, yeah.
00:54:31
box they_them
and like
00:54:33
Christine
Oh, I hope so.
00:54:33
jim_phoenix
The material.
00:54:35
jim_phoenix
I've read Stephen King before and that's a Stephen King muscle. Sometimes I, and I love Stephen King. I just got done with most, all those books ready. And there's some times where Stephen King will describe huge sections of his book.
00:54:48
jim_phoenix
You're like, okay, next, next.
00:54:48
Christine
When does something start happening?
00:54:50
jim_phoenix
Okay. I got it as a fucking dark night.
00:54:50
box they_them
Yeah.
00:54:53
jim_phoenix
I get it as really dark night.
00:54:54
Christine
Yeah.
00:54:55
jim_phoenix
Fucking stark night. So it's kind of like that, but without the Stephen King ability to make you want to read it.
00:55:01
Christine
Yeah, yeah, I was just drifting.
00:55:02
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:55:03
Christine
And because it was short stories, like some of them were like two pages and it was like, you know, a big gratuitous, like there was one that was like child rape and it went for two pages and I felt really, no, definitely not.
00:55:06
jim_phoenix
Oh, geez. Oh, no.
00:55:15
box they_them
Mm.
00:55:18
jim_phoenix
And that's, yeah, that's not our sponsor.
00:55:19
box they_them
Rape is not our sponsor.
00:55:23
Christine
But um yeah, it went for two pages and it was a bit like, oh, that just slapped me in the face.
00:55:23
box they_them
but
00:55:28
box they_them
Oh,
00:55:28
jim_phoenix
Yeah.
00:55:30
box they_them
this o
00:55:32
jim_phoenix
The tack of it all.
00:55:32
Christine
Yeah, that's a lot.
00:55:33
jim_phoenix
Yeah. And sometimes you're just wondering, like we, we had one who reviewed it. It was either Evie or court court was Evie gave it like zero stars, zero Cthulhu.
00:55:42
box they_them
whoa it was Evie. It was Evie reviewed it and ah she had a hard time with that one.
00:55:47
Christine
Oh, what was that?
00:55:48
box they_them
Yeah.
00:55:48
jim_phoenix
It was basically child rape the entire fucking, it was child rape the book.
00:55:51
Christine
Oh, it's, it's, why?
00:55:55
box they_them
Which we don't.
00:55:57
jim_phoenix
Yeah. I'm like, we're trying to figure like, yes, it can be horror. We get it, but it has to have artistic purpose behind it.
00:56:04
Christine
Yeah, exactly.
00:56:05
jim_phoenix
It has to have some sort of forming for it. So I hear you for that. I hear for that. Oh, hopefully your next couple of books coming out. Good.
00:56:12
Christine
I hope so.
00:56:13
jim_phoenix
Good reviews.
00:56:13
box they_them
Yeah.
00:56:14
Christine
I hope so.
00:56:14
jim_phoenix
Good reviews. Good reviews. Brian, what do you want to do?
00:56:18
box they_them
Okay, so um I usually talk about charities.
00:56:21
jim_phoenix
Nice.
00:56:22
box they_them
And so I found one that is basically it helps people have healthy relationships, because we're talking about relationships, you can go to join one, love, stop, join one,
00:56:31
jim_phoenix
You're gonna go to Baby Yoda for relationships? Oh, sorry. Stop Baby Yoda, I can't.
00:56:36
box they_them
Join OneLove.org.
00:56:37
jim_phoenix
Yes.
00:56:40
jim_phoenix
Fuck me, how do you spell that? Join, J-O-I-N, ah like O-N-E.
00:56:43
box they_them
J-O-I am oh and yes oh-N O-N-E, Love.org, or you could just Google it.
00:56:50
jim_phoenix
L-O-V-E.org.
00:56:52
box they_them
I'm sure it'll come up.
00:56:52
jim_phoenix
Okay.
00:56:53
box they_them
Basically, the core values is that love is the most important thing in our lives, yet we're taught very little about it. OneLove is on a mission to change that.
00:57:00
Christine
Nice, yeah.
00:57:01
jim_phoenix
Bob Marley, okay.
00:57:03
box they_them
So, OneLove, JoinOneLove.org.
00:57:07
jim_phoenix
So, Bob Marley is suing them later on.
00:57:10
box they_them
I don't think he can.
00:57:11
jim_phoenix
Well, he's a state can. You know, one loves his thing, right?
00:57:15
box they_them
I don't
00:57:16
jim_phoenix
Is it is it Bob Marley inspired, do you think, looking through it?
00:57:19
box they_them
know. It doesn't say that, um but it's it's basically about partnership and um just like knowing what is healthy, what's unhealthy.
00:57:32
box they_them
um They have workshops to kind of talk about healthy relationships. And relationships can not even be like a romantic thing. It could be all of our relationships.
00:57:40
jim_phoenix
Right. All of them all like pain and eyes. Why dig it? Join one love.org. Yes. Nice.
00:57:49
box they_them
Yep. Yep. Got it.
00:57:50
jim_phoenix
Check them out. And speaking of healthy relationships or unhealthy relationships, I'm going to plug surviving Gen X by Joe Shefcheck.
00:57:57
box they_them
ah
00:57:57
jim_phoenix
It's his birthday today. So a happy birthday to him.
00:58:01
box they_them
This is birthday today?
00:58:01
jim_phoenix
Be go by his book, surviving Gen X and find out. Yeah, that's why I'm hurting. Find out what?
00:58:09
box they_them
hey joe
00:58:10
jim_phoenix
To him, I know, right?
00:58:10
Christine
That's a joke.
00:58:10
box they_them
it just
00:58:13
jim_phoenix
so structure
00:58:13
box they_them
good job do che ji exactly
00:58:14
jim_phoenix
to Yeah, go buy his book. ah That's a great present. And I think if you buy enough of those books, he might even give to a charity, namely the Roller Gator Foundation for me.
00:58:24
box they_them
yeah
00:58:27
Christine
Oh.
00:58:27
box they_them
i
00:58:27
jim_phoenix
every every for Every book you buy of his, he's going to give me a dollar to rent Roller Gator so I can improve my love life.
00:58:28
box they_them
have
00:58:33
box they_them
Aww, that's sweet.
00:58:35
jim_phoenix
So it's kind of it's finding each other. I love it.
00:58:37
box they_them
I do have his book. Um, it's sitting where I can see it. So, I mean, it gives me comfort.
00:58:45
jim_phoenix
Damn right, I love looking at it.
00:58:45
box they_them
Yeah. It has a great cover.
00:58:47
jim_phoenix
All right. ah It's not, you know what? They didn't win the award. They didn't even get shortlisted for the cover. And it's like, what the cover's my face, how the fuck is it?
00:58:55
box they_them
Oh, what? The cover is actually really cool.
00:58:59
jim_phoenix
Well, I appreciate that, thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:59:01
box they_them
Yeah.
00:59:02
jim_phoenix
Now, that's it for our show, and if you haven't liked and subscribed yet, do it. Just do it, man.
00:59:07
box they_them
Please mom, please moms, all the moms.
00:59:09
jim_phoenix
Hit that bell, ring the things, ring a ding ding. Next up on streaming demons, we're gonna do, what was that one that box threatened me with? Dinosaurs or something like that? Why not?
00:59:19
box they_them
I think we were actually going to do alienses.
00:59:23
jim_phoenix
Oh, shoot, you're right. We're doing all the aliens. Each we're going to do this is going weavers.
00:59:29
box they_them
Alienseses.
00:59:32
jim_phoenix
We're going to do like the the chess poppers.
00:59:33
box they_them
There's so many of them.
00:59:35
jim_phoenix
We're going to do all those legal and maybe quasi illegal aliens.
00:59:35
box they_them
Yeah. there's
00:59:39
jim_phoenix
Whatever makes you horrible, America. Getting just.
00:59:43
box they_them
Honestly, the series too is like so long, they eventually do go into space.
00:59:49
jim_phoenix
I will. I've got a lot to say about Romulus, by the way.
00:59:52
box they_them
Where's, where's the babum ching? That was a good joke. That was a good, that was a good callback.
00:59:55
jim_phoenix
Oh.
01:00:00
jim_phoenix
um I'm sorry. That's the callback for you. That's the callback for it.
01:00:02
box they_them
ah ah
01:00:05
jim_phoenix
All right. But thanks very you know thanks America. Wow. Geez man. Thanks Christine or America.
01:00:10
box they_them
You're not even in America!
01:00:13
jim_phoenix
I was, I was today.
01:00:15
box they_them
Oh, were you?
01:00:16
jim_phoenix
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:16
box they_them
My and my condolence is...
01:00:17
jim_phoenix
I went for dinner. I know. I love it.
01:00:20
box they_them
What?
01:00:20
jim_phoenix
Vermont. They put apples on their hamburger. That was awesome.
01:00:24
Christine
What?
01:00:24
jim_phoenix
Hey, it was good.
01:00:25
box they_them
What kind of America is that?
01:00:25
jim_phoenix
It was good. Apples on a hamburger. man a kick ass America. That's what it is. All right. But thank you much for Christina.
01:00:33
Christine
Bye!
01:00:34
jim_phoenix
Thank you very much to Jennifer. And of course, Jim, Brian, the goal is forever course. I'm Jim Phoenix. And I'm bidding you good day. Bye, y'all.
01:00:43
box they_them
Bye.
01:00:45
jim_phoenix
Outro, outro, outro, outro, outro. bound wow
01:00:55
jim_phoenix
Oh, that kicked in. Oh, it's sending in.
01:01:05
jim_phoenix
found And today on the stream and the stream ends, I forgot to give my promo code.
01:01:16
box they_them
Mm hmm.
01:01:16
jim_phoenix
Oh, promo code stream and beemans for candles.
01:01:17
box they_them
Yeah.
01:01:21
box they_them
Stream in. Stream in.
01:01:28
jim_phoenix
Yeah.