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73. TLDI: Buckets of Blood, Teen Wolf Too, and Natural Born Killers
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The journey of horror in cinema has carved its path through the hearts of audiences for over a century, evolving from ground-breaking classics to modern thrillers that keep us at the edge of our seats. Classic horror movies, with their chilling narratives and iconic villains, not only frighten but also captivate, making them unforgettable experiences that linger long after the credits roll. Diving into ‘A Bucket of Blood’, ‘Teen Wolf Too’, and ‘Natural Born Killers’, this article explores the diverse facets of horror and satire, from its early satirical horror to the thrilling depths of psychological terror. Each film showcases […]
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Introduction and Movie Themes
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Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here and I'm tired, but I'm tired because I actually watch these movies motherfuckers. That's, that's not special streaming demons when Jimbo gets through the movies. That's right. We've got none other than a bucket of blood from the last drive in the Robert Corman film from 1959. And then box, you got Teen Wolf two.
00:00:24
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Mean Wolf, T-O-O. T-O-O. And we're tag team movies and natural born killers with none of us remember watching this ship, apparently. All that and more on an extreme in demons. Hit it. God damn it. Hold on. Is that the new one? I'm going with it. Oh my god. There we go.
00:00:52
Speaker
I don't know. I can't see my sound board no more, man. You OK there? Yeah. Kind of like that.
Film Selection Process
00:01:02
Speaker
I can't hear anything now. Oh, oh, oh, you're froze. You're just like a smile. I see you blinking.
00:01:21
Speaker
Okay. Hey, we're back and I do too. Welcome back y'all from our last episode. We're really discussed. Uh, I think just two movies, right? We didn't do the third one. Uh, no, I don't think so. I think we just, yeah, just did a two for a two for a two for two for two. That's pretty good. I like this one. Now we got three, a three for two.
00:01:48
Speaker
That's reefer. It was a, I'll, I'll tell you, I'll be honest. It was my choice. It was my pick national born killer because I remembered it in the theaters. Yeah. And it was, I've never seen it before. Yeah. Yeah. And we're talking about Oliver John Oliver, not John Oliver films, Oliver Stone films. Oh fuck me. Yeah. Yeah. Or John Oliver films.
00:02:12
Speaker
Whatever. Yeah. Sly. And, uh, I will, I'm going to save this a bit for the total review, but apparently I did not watch that in the theaters.
1994 Nostalgia and Movie Memories
00:02:29
Speaker
Well, what year did it come out on? Back this up. It came out in, these are the wars that went on. Hold on.
00:02:40
Speaker
1994. Yeah. I was blackout drunk. Okay. Most likely the reason why I don't remember watching this. I remember going sort of, and then probably seeing it on HBO later on going, Oh, I watched this film already. And then that was it. And then that was it. That was the end of the story. Yeah. Until now. Until now. And then re-watch it and going, Holy shit, all these people are in it. And then another one I picked just for you.
00:03:07
Speaker
I picked a bucket of blood from last drive and Roger Gorman thing, a bucket of blood because it has smooth jazz. It's a smooth jazz car. That is scary. That's terrifying. In fact, yeah. And, uh, just like, I'm going to say someone's game. Yeah, I know. I'm like, Oh my God, this is awesome. I think they would definitely love this one.
00:03:28
Speaker
But, uh, apparently prison kills a cat in it too. And you picked teen was too, just because I picked teen wolf T O O because I just wanted something fun and silly. And to be honest, I never even knew this existed. So really.
00:03:47
Speaker
You didn't know the sequel that none of them, like, did any of the original cast members come back? Cause I know it's like Bateman and, uh, uh, it's got, I think some of the side characters who come back. Like his friend, like the, yeah, basically like the front character is the same. Um, baby Yoda's in it. Baby Yoda is the same. Yeah.
80s Film Reflections
00:04:13
Speaker
It's basically like, Hey, do you remember teen wolf one?
00:04:17
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Um, you're his cousin or something. Um, and everybody loves him, but they don't love you. So do you think that there was a script they just held around and didn't necessarily have to be a teen wolf too, you know, or just kind of like, Oh, it was definitely a teen wolf too. But also a teen wolf T O O not a T W O. I don't think it has that fame to it.
00:04:43
Speaker
Yeah, we didn't want to get the sequel. The squeak, the squeak will says they would go. Oh, right. It was Alvin and chipmunks. Make a team with movie. How would you figure it out? They're off. Holy shit. Did the eighties just have a big furry face and no one noticed? I mean, no one did have Howard the Duck. We had Howard the Duck. We had critters. Yeah. Gremlins. Gremlins.
00:05:11
Speaker
Um, trying to think of what else we had. Oh, the rock collar fucker. Um, I mean, that's Henson though. Right. I mean, like that's just what they do. They just be doing what they do. What kind of furry troll, which is kind of a furry movie because I think there were just furs. Right. I mean, there were just weird little gremlin-y things.
00:05:40
Speaker
They weren't really trolls. I don't know. I think it was a hidden troll thing. Oh, Harry and a hundred cents to Henderson. Holy. Oh yeah. God damn it. Box. I know. I fucking summoned this shit, man. Yeah, I did. I jinxed us this time. It was me. It wasn't you. It was me. All right. You're on there. Jim Phoenix. How are you?
00:06:04
Speaker
Yeah, so I heard her talk about my movie, Harry the Henderson star of Terror Read. I don't think that was a Terror Read movie. I can't understand anything he's saying. It was Harry the Henderson's 2 of Terror Read. Mine. Oh, it's Terror Read. Yeah, that would have been amazing. They also did a T-O-O. T-O-O. Wait, are you saying, Terror's Harry somewhere?
00:06:32
Speaker
No, no, no, no. So anyways, it was a hairy thing that was into the thing. And all I heard was, oh, you fucking son of a bitch. Nope. How'd it come off? We're not doing
Upcoming Episode Plans and Movie Releases
00:06:43
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that shit anymore. Yeah, no, no, no. Because we do have Terry coming up next week. We do not. Yeah, we do not. Not next week. Next episode. So probably it's like going to be either right before Easter. Oh, God.
00:07:01
Speaker
We should do an Easter episode. I actually have an Easter screener. Do you really? Is it holidays? Good pal Justin. Good pal Justin from Arrow. Yep. And from a lot of other stuff. But yeah, from our good pal Justin, he gave me a screener for a new, uh, Easter movie. Really? Well, fine. Fuckers. Then I got a screener from, uh,
00:07:29
Speaker
someone's name and a kill right now. Uh, cure cure gave me a screener from the Hamlet with, uh, Ian McKellen for Easter. Yeah. It's got Jonathan Hyde in it. And, uh, I think that's easier enough. Ian McKellen, I mean, Suri and the gun as Hamilton and you're kind of kind of stretching, but dude comes back from the dead.
00:07:57
Speaker
That's Easter, right? That's the whole story of it. Is that Hamlet? Yeah. Well, Hamlet's ghost dad comes back to the dead. He's still dead by the end of it. What Hamlet were you watching? The Hamlet of Ian motherfucking McKellen, sirs. It's going to be the classic tale of revenge and tragedy directed by Sean Mathis at the S.
00:08:21
Speaker
You know, it's fun. We're not talking about the movies. No, because I want to get the plugin, like people know cause I fly like for a hamlet coming on Blu-ray and digital eight of April. So that's Easter. Callioscope home entertainment. Hells. Yes. It's Easter's in March this year.
00:08:41
Speaker
Oh, it's in March? Oh shit. Well, then if you're doing a March, you know what I'm doing right for by like the Easter thingy that they're a haunted hospitals from T and E channel original season five coming out. I've seen the screener is scary as shit. It's got kids. Easter kids. It's got Easter kids. It's got Easter kids. Therefore it's scariest shit. Yeah. Well, it makes them easterly kids.
00:09:09
Speaker
Because you know what? Honest to God, without spoiling too much of it, one's got a balloon balloons. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. I don't think you know, I don't think you know. Okay. Well, apparently you don't. I thought it was like balloons and haunted hospital season five on T and E and Hamlet through kaleidoscope home entertainment. In McKellen's.
00:09:36
Speaker
Fine, I'm gonna get my screener out too. We're gonna compare screeners, okay? Trust me, I got like Ian fucking McKellen, my screener's gonna win no matter what. I mean, it probably will. And plus, truth be told, that haunted hospital season five, the screener I got with the kids, creepy as shit. Okay, well, I mean, kids are kind of creepy.
00:10:01
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Yeah, kids naturally are creepy and like ghost kids. Oops, said too much. Well, I have Easter bloody Easter. Easter bloody Easter. Easter bloody Easter. How do you know it's an Easter movie? It could be anything. When a bloodthirsty Jackalope starts a fluffy murder spree at Easter time. Yeah, I think, I think I know. Is that one also starting Ian McKellen? Cause that would be very cool.
00:10:29
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but maybe I'll have to watch to really find out. There you go, find that shit out. No, that sounds cool.
Easter Movie Discussions
00:10:37
Speaker
I did see Joe Bob Briggs tweet out something I was thinking for a long time. I've always wanted to review this movie for us. And if you want to do an Easter theme next time, we really could. Passion of the Christ. No, yes, Passion of the Christ. Wait.
00:10:56
Speaker
The Mel Gibson thing? Yes, that Mel Gibson thing. Because that's just like a snow film. This guy's subtitles and shit. You like subtitles. Yeah, that gives me a lot of trauma, though. See, it's hard. You like gore porn. It is fucking gore porn. And it takes all your boxes. It's a it's a lot of a lot of stuff coming all at once. Mm hmm.
00:11:25
Speaker
Coming all at once. Why don't we, why don't we watch Night of the Lepus? I think that was another one he tweeted out. I have no idea what, what, what it is. It's about killer. It's about killer bunnies. Is Ian McCollan in it? Um, no, but it does have somebody, I forget who, but somebody famous. Let me see.
00:11:50
Speaker
Oh, wait, wait, wait, I know who who cares. That's it. That's it. Who cares? Oh, no. Why you look that up? I. This is actually I was looking up side effects. My new heart. Actually, same heart meds, but apparently just a bigger dose now. And I'm like, generally, that's why I'm genuinely.
00:12:15
Speaker
Wait, Janet Lee, Janet Lee, like Bruce Lee's sisters. No, she was in psycho. She was in psycho by Birdie. The original psycho? Yeah, the original psycho. Not the original psycho. Yeah. She was marrying Crane. I don't know about that man. Yeah. Okay. I don't know what the original psycho. I think it just had like one character. Yeah. Jamie like Curtis is her daughter.
00:12:46
Speaker
No, it can't be Jamie Lee. Curtis is the, oh, I think that Jamie Lee curses his daughter was bad. No, she's Janet Lee and Jamie Lee Curtis. Got it. That makes sense. Oh, I know that one. Yeah. I didn't believe this. Anyway, I'm still going to watch passionate Christ. We don't know, man. That's heavy. I'll tell you what, I'll watch one. Then you watch that one and we'll watch the third one. What third one we're going to get?
00:13:14
Speaker
What's a good Easter movie as a third one? I think Hamlet starring Ian McKellen from Kaleidoscope home video. I mean, I got, you know, I'm always up for Ian McKellen. So I could watch that if it's going to be streaming. You know, April 8th, it will be. Oh, wait, right. Easter's before then. April. Yeah, you can't do it. All right.
00:13:38
Speaker
We can watch roller gator, I guess. Fuck off, man. That's a good Easter movie. No, no, no. We ain't doing that. You know, for Terror Read, what... I don't want to do Weedy House. Definitely don't want to do Mummy Dearest. Weedy House was good, though. What's a good Terror Read movie we can watch for Easter? Well, I mean, I don't like them as much, but we could watch The Shark One, Sharknado. Sharknado's? Yeah. I think there's one in space.
00:14:09
Speaker
I don't know, but I know the one she's in is like the first one. Oh shit. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, we got a perfect one. I did not know she's in this. Are you fucking kidding me? The Crow wicked prayer? I don't know what the fuck that is. The Crow wicked prayer 2005.
00:14:34
Speaker
Wow. That must've been gone straight to fuck you videos, but yeah, it must stars teedle or tease. Nice. And she's on the poster. Oh man. No, wait, wait, wait. She's on the poster. She's actually, she is. It's got David Boreanaz. Oh, okay. That's the one. Okay. David Boreanaz and Tara read. Okay. And Danny too. Mother fucker. We gotta watch this shit and Macy great. Okay. I mean, I'm in.
00:15:04
Speaker
Okay. Fine. We'll try to find this thing. We'll watch, uh, passionate of Christ, crow, the wicked prayer. And then you're watching your Easter bloody thingies from hell. All that. I'm glad that we got our meeting taken care of in front of everyone. Thank you everyone for, for being here. Trust me. If we're talking well this much about the movies, we didn't see yet.
00:15:34
Speaker
Uh, this might be a hint. All right, box. What's your first fucking movie you're talking about? Teen Wolf to, to T O O. Yeah. So I remember using this movie as a blank and taping it over for wrestling. Yeah. That's how good this one is. Yeah. It does have Jason Bateman.
00:15:55
Speaker
It's his feature film debut. Is it really? So he just did that facts of life. What was in the silver spoons? No, that's the other guy. Um, Valerie. I can't remember. It says a little house on the Prairie, but I don't remember that tasting fucking Bateman doing little house. It said that on Wikipedia.
00:16:19
Speaker
from 81, 82. The Hogan family. The Hogan family. There you go. Valerie. So it was actually Valerie because then she says goodbye and then there's a Hogan family or the opposite way. I don't know. I didn't see it. So, but I did see this. And you know, he does a fine job. He does a fine job for what, Oh my gosh, it was produced by Bruce Bateman.
00:16:47
Speaker
Oh, his dad. Oh boy. It's a family film. Good for him. It's a family film. It is. Um, it's for those films where it just keeps reminding you of how good the first movie is because it's like, no, it's not. So it's about,
00:17:13
Speaker
a werewolf person, but he doesn't know if he's going to be a werewolf or not because he hasn't changed yet. But basically him going off to college, it has the old Gomez in it as like the headmaster. Really? Yeah. And they want to turn him into a boxer for whatever reason. They want to turn Gomez into a boxer? No, no, no. Gomez wants to turn Jason Bateman into a boxer.
00:17:43
Speaker
The dog? Huh? He wants to turn him into a dog, he's a wolf. He wants to turn him into, no, not the dog, but he does have a big dog that he feeds wieners to. Wiener wieners? Like Ben Wilder. Hot dog wieners. Hot dogs, okay, so not wieners. It's very strange. But Gomez, he's having his best life in this movie, and I'm glad.
00:18:10
Speaker
But they want to turn him into a boxer and it's never really explained why. Probably because the first one he was, you know, Michael J. Fox was good at basketball. Basketball. He needed something. Beat boxing, those three. But Jason Bateman only wants to science, guys. That's why he went to college. He wants to be science.
00:18:33
Speaker
So he wants to be a nerd, but everybody wants him not to be a nerd, and eventually he does wolf out, and he turns into a massive asshole. Not even charismatic. Michael J. Fox in the first one, he was getting to be an asshole.
00:18:52
Speaker
He was still charismatic. You can see why. No, this is like straight up just a fucking asshole. And all of his friends who were not really good friends, but they're like, you've changed, man. And, um, so he goes to fight the bad guy and is he going to wolf out or is he going to stay true to his science? Ness. He also has a love interest who's into science. Is it a sister?
00:19:22
Speaker
No. Please say it's his fucking sister. It's not a sister, it's a love interest. Well, no, I mean like Jason's sister. Oh God, I hope not. I don't think so. It truly is a family affair. Look, dad's doing this, Jason's doing that. But there is a professor that he has a lot of chemistry with and it's very weird. Like chemistry? No, like sexual chemistry. So that was also kind of weird.
00:19:53
Speaker
Uh, cause he's like, you know, supposed to be like 18, 19. She's supposed to be legal and legal. Play ball. Still weird. Still weird. So anyway, it's all about being true yourself or whatever. Whatever. I have plenty of questions about this one now. So he was atrocious. Well, was it atrocious late eighties was at least rock.
00:20:23
Speaker
No, it was like, it was like synth music, but on the screen were people that were pretending to play violin and stuff. So it's like, oh God, you couldn't even get people to actually play violin and stuff. You just decided to synth over it. It was very strange. As one does. There was montages. There was like four montages in this whole moving. And honestly, there were one after another after another. It was like six minutes of just montages.
00:20:54
Speaker
Good. I like six minutes of montages. It was absolutely wild. Um, is one of the montages like the trailer, one of the Montage, like, okay. So the montage is like him getting ready for like a big test he has to do because of course he has to fucking do a big test before the big match. So he's studying for the big, the test, but then he's also like,
00:21:22
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driving around, but then he's also like practicing for like the boxing thing. It just like, it goes on and on and on, and then it stops. I wish. We know how to do the montage where they do like 12,000 things, it's only like one hour. Yes, I wish. But it was literally, and then they break, there's a break, they have a conversation, and then it goes right back into the fucking montage. Just like, what is going on?
00:21:51
Speaker
Is this editing or just kind of like, I think it's just, they're like, we need to fit as many tropes into this goddamn movie as we can. And also always lie back onto teen wolf one, uh, but do it worse. This basketball team. We want a basket. We want boxing. Now it's a boxing. So that's, that's the thing. Cause teen wolf one, Michael J's Fox's character liked basketball.
00:22:21
Speaker
And he uses Team Wolf abilities to play basketball. So this dude doesn't even like boxing. Has he ever boxed people like say any mention of him boxing ever before? They said something about like they wanted to get him on a scholarship, but he didn't want the scholarship. He wanted just to science. So he doesn't even like boxing. It's not even a passion of his. And to be honest, like as I was watching it, I'm like,
00:22:45
Speaker
Like when he wolfs out and he boxes, he's like almost killing these other people. Like would not the other team be like, um, excuse me, he seems to be a fucking werewolf. Um, doesn't that like stop the rule? Right. Well, I asked because like, if you've never boxed before, like what's going to be the scholarship getting the shit kicked out of you? That's going to go well. Well, basically they want him because his cousin wolfs out like, Oh,
00:23:14
Speaker
So they already have wolfing out as a established universal fact. Okay. So they think everyone that family is going to wolf out is the male gene. It could be like, wouldn't it be funny if they did that to Jason Bateman's character and it turned out the milk man fucked his mom. So it wasn't the, actually like the real cousin kicked out in the boxing ring for no reason at all. Even when he joins, he, he's never wolfed out. Cause like his uncle's all like,
00:23:44
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wolf doubt, which I believe is the same actor as the dad in the original one. And the dad's just like wolfing out in the car, you know, like no, no business, no, no problem. And he's like, don't worry. I bet you'll wolf out too. And he's like, maybe I won't. You don't know that. And it's like, wouldn't that be a great movie? You just never did. I think that'd be a better movie. Better movie. I think Jason Bate would probably think it was like,
00:24:12
Speaker
Damn, I could make that movie now. It'd be a better fucking movie. It would be hilarious. Um, we'll be like, uh, three, but spelled like there for dyslexics and shit. Yeah. Cause teen wolf too. I can't believe they did the T O O. That's how you know, it's good. It feels like a T O O. Yeah. It's okay. So you hate the music. You hate the acting. Okay. The acting was.
00:24:41
Speaker
Fine. I mean, like, again, it's kind of like, um, like say mannequin two or, you know, a sequel to something like that where it's like, it's fine. You know, um, it's not what the original was. Uh, and they're just basically trying to capitalize on the original. So Jason Bateman did his best. I'm glad that it didn't kill his career. No, he did quite well after that one.
00:25:11
Speaker
Yes, he does our house and Valerie and necessarily roughness after all that stuff. And yeah, so he did, he did fine. Um, like his love interest. She was real cute. Um, his love interest at the chemistry. No, I looked at the photos. She was really cute. No. His, um, his girlfriend who has brown hair and she looks real mousy. Kim Darby does have brown hair, maybe black.
00:25:40
Speaker
Professor Brooks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you actually seeing that really was the girlfriend? No, no, the girlfriend, who was the girlfriend? I can't remember who she was. Um, thank us Kim Darby. No, it's not. That was professor, but she was good too. She was fine. She, I'm not going to, I don't know if I should spoil it or not, but she, she doesn't sleep with him. She doesn't.
00:26:08
Speaker
She doesn't that we see, but she is a werewolf too. She is a werewolf too. She does a movie with, Oh no, no, no. That's a John Cusack, but does she do a movie with John Cusack? I have no idea. She's like a random ass. Like they did fine with the, I feel like the, um, the casting.
00:26:34
Speaker
It was good, but again, it was just always like kind of just weird. Okay. No, really not funny. The casting and I am correct. She does do a movie with John Cusack. Oh, okay. Yeah. She plays Jenny Meyer, which must be John's sister or something. I don't know, but I don't think they sleep together. Okay.
00:27:00
Speaker
Maybe. I can't. Allegedly. Allegedly. We can't. So how was the whooping out? Is it actually good whooping out? Is it makeup good? The makeup was fine. It was okay. Um, I just remember his like, he was a scary wolf. He wasn't like, he looked scarier than Michael J Fox. Michael J Fox looked like a fun wolf. Like you'd want to hang around him. Jason Bateman just looked like a scary, like grumpy, grumpy old wolf.
00:27:31
Speaker
Maybe this was going for, I guess maybe, but like I said, as soon as he was out, he turns into a huge asshole, like right away. He's just suddenly like a huge asshole. Like I said, there's no like, um, charisma like there was with Michael J Fox where it's like, Oh, you see him. Like it's more of a character thing of like him getting too big for his britches kind of a thing. Um,
00:27:57
Speaker
Whereas this is just like, Oh, I have this big test and I also have this fight. And also I've been a jerk and I'm sorry. And everybody was like, Hey, it's okay. And like, that's conflict resolved. That's not that bad. But I'll tell you what the tagline to the movie was. Oh, it's hair raising comedy. Mmm.
00:28:27
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Awesome, okay, so I didn't hate it I know I feel like this would be a fun movie for like an 80s night with a group of people Link, you know having some drinks having some pizza watching something Yeah
00:28:51
Speaker
Break out your red dog beer. And some Zima, maybe some wine coolers, have Bruce Willis playing and harmonicas. Boxed, boxed wine. Yep. I mean, just have it. And you'll have a fun time. I have to wash my jeans tomorrow. So I'm going to give it two because I didn't hate it. But again, it, it was very lacking. Yeah. It wouldn't have made it better. I think.
00:29:30
Speaker
I think that would have made it better if you wolfed out and they just liked a bunch of orgy stuff. I think that would have been so much fun. Honestly, I feel like we're due for a Teen Wolf sequel. Not a sequel, but a reboot. I think we're due for a Teen Wolf reboot. Or is you in pain going to write this shit for pornos? Is that one of the pornos you're going to write? Teen Wolf doubled 3Ds?
00:29:54
Speaker
I feel like teen wolf too as a, no, thank you. Um, I'm going to pass on that, but I feel like if we had a teen wolf now, it's got hair vaginas. It's got Harry balls. Oh, Harry balls could be in it. Jason Bateman's name already works still. Come on. It's brilliant. Oh my God. Get all cast in there.
00:30:22
Speaker
Okay, that's pretty funny, but I think that would be kind of funny if like they did do that and like Jason Bateman was in there and maybe Michael J Fox can like Randomly walking through hair in the palms. I knew I should stop to I can voiceover You know, I can get it to Not that much Okay, I am doing the last that Ivan presents the Roger Corman thingy who's a
00:30:52
Speaker
We sponsored, but they apparently fucking forgot. Oh no. Well, that's okay. Maybe next time, maybe next year, maybe next year. This is the last one. Oh, there'll be the Jamboree again next time. I'll be like, Oh, get the shit. I was like, I'll get in writing. I already got in writing last time and we're off too well. Oh, you know, I'm out zero money. It's all good.
00:31:21
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I actually converted all that shit to a trip to see my mom for my birthday anyways. So fuck it. Yeah. I wish liquid IV dot com. Now that was I'll be honest, I was kind of depressed when I didn't see our fucking logo up there. You know, whatever. Yeah, I guess I should know better. All right. So I didn't know better. Don't worry. That's kind of like there's no way in hell they're actually doing this for real. Thank you, Johnny Stewart, for telling me that long time ago.
00:31:51
Speaker
So a bucket of blood. And this one has got Dick Miller and Anthony Carbone. I thought you were just going to say, I thought you were just going to say Dick. It's got Dick. It's got Dick in it. And Tony's and Dick's and Ed Nelson's. I don't know where Payne's voice is coming about, but we're doing it. I don't know why.
00:32:15
Speaker
And then we got this, Oh, I know why. Okay. Yeah. Listen to Brian Johnson. And sometimes Brian Johnson from ACDC, he'll talk like this about these guys. He's a Geordie. And I figured out on a smite bit, it's a take the accent out is actually pain. Like, Oh shit. Brian Johnson is actually paying his voice.
00:32:34
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This is the storyline for Michael Brook at Michael at everyman.demon.co. This is how good your movie is. We've got some jackass rando. Sorry, Michael, I don't know you.
00:32:46
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and giving the IMDB up for it. So Walter Paisley, nerdy busboy at Bohemian Cafe, is jealous of the talented and popularity of its various artistic regulars. But after accidentally killing his landlady's cat and covering the body in plaster to hide the evidence, as one does, he is acclaimed as a brilliant sculptor. But his newfound friends want to see more of his work, so he starts to claim people. I mean, as you do.
00:33:15
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Yeah, yeah, as we does, as we does. And this is a set that we use for other people, productions like The Little Shop of Horrors. So this is pre Little Shop of Horrors. So 1956 shop came out 16. It's everything you think of. Robert. Roger Corman. Yeah, it's it's. Hey, man, they get my name right. I get their name right now. Roger Corman. Thank you.
00:33:44
Speaker
They're all like, man, we can't fucking. It's it's twin alter alter ego, Robert Corman, Robert Corman. That's how it gets so much in there. And I will say from the last drive in, which Bob Briggs. I feel badly blew off an interview with them. Oh, man, we did. Yeah, yeah, I just I was doing an interview for my book.
00:34:08
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So I'm like, I got, I got, I can't make that fucking time. I'm pushing my shit, man. And then, uh, Kath, it was sick. Gate was sick. And so she couldn't do it. So I was like, my bad. But anyways, as watching it,
00:34:28
Speaker
It wasn't bad. I like hearing the stories behind it. I kind of do like the, as his brother, Robert, Roger would say, I forgot which one was the fake one. As his brother Roberto would say, Roger's a good dude. Roger's a good dude. He makes movies that make money, but not by much.
00:34:50
Speaker
And he basically uses his own money. One of the things that was taken away from us, he doesn't pay people a lot, but he pays people. I'm like, oh, I can respect that. I can respect that. I think that's the whole thing. That's what we do here, believe it or not. And the storyline made me immediately think of you because this is the beatnik fucking thing. It's got some shit going on. It's got the black and whites all over it.
00:35:16
Speaker
And the soundtrack is all smooth jazz. A hundred percent. This is your horror. Terrifying. It is terrifying for you. It'll be absolutely terrifying. I think that is correct. Is beaten the core classics. And matter of fact, for the streaming demons, I think we're all doing a horror classics. We did whatever that horror classic was this horror classic next horror classics. I'm just saying that because it's easier to rank SEOs. Okay.
00:35:45
Speaker
I can't remember a fucking thing about the movie other than jazz though. Jazz, sculptures, and killing. That's all I fucking remember. And beatniks. Yeah. You know, beatnik horror was actually a thing. I mean, not a big thing, but it was a thing. It was a big thing for Dick Miller. One of the, um, there was, oh gosh, it was, um, a beatnik horror that I had seen and it was introducing Dean Stockwell.
00:36:15
Speaker
And I was like, baby Jean Stockwell, just like, this is baby Jason Bateman. It's like, aw. It's cute. They can do something together and do some sorts of things. So babies. It's so cute when you see that. I'd rather be watching that movie. I've watched some of Dean Stockwell's older movies, like when he was a little kid. I'm like, well, not a little kid, probably in his 20s. But it's like, my god, because next time you see him, he's like,
00:36:42
Speaker
He's like older. Sam Ziggy. Yeah. So overall I like the CGI. I think it was very believable. Yeah. This is the CGI movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, a hundred percent. Wait, I thought this was in the fifties or something. Right. The early 1900s. Okay.
00:37:11
Speaker
What? No, they didn't have CGI, did they? No. Oh, wait, what am I thinking of? I don't know what you're thinking. But in the fifties, they do. That's damn right, Nick McKee. That's what I'm thinking of. No, it's not. No CGI. This is before CGI. And honestly, God, I just hope it didn't kill a cat. That's all I'm thinking, like, man, I hope this cat's not really dead. No, I'm sure they didn't. I'm sure the cat's fine. It's okay.
00:37:40
Speaker
It's a Roger Corman, man. I think he made it in a day or maybe they have, you know, 10 bucks for 10 bucks about that. Like today's money, 10 bucks. It made 110 million or 10, 10 million. Jesus, man. I made 110 grand, but I think it costs like 10 grand to do. Yeah. He's got some money back. Yeah, that's a good amount. The writing is okay. There's nothing wrong with it. The acting is pretty good. Dick Miller's great in it.
00:38:10
Speaker
the concept I think is fun because they're just making fun of the beat neck generation. A hundred. They're just taking it to the next level. Like what would it be next? Cause you know, a lot of big decks were just douche bags anyways. Like that's a fucking hipster shit. That's every, that's every generation. You're not hipster already box. I am probably with that hat. I do like your hat by the way. Thank you.
00:38:35
Speaker
But there's some things that you do, I think you said you identified as a hipster before. But I also had you and Evie confused for like 10 years. Yeah, you did. You really did, which is weird. I didn't sleep with either of you. Oh. And votes. All right. Anyway, what would you do? I can't even hear the sound thing. Where's the kazoo? Was that the kazoo? Yep. Sure was.
00:39:12
Speaker
That was the consumer there. No, it's not. That's a lie. You are a liar. But yeah, it's, so you be a hipster. There should be a movie making fun of hipsters. There really should be. There should. There should. I agree. I think that'd be fun. Um, so you said it was fine. It was fine. It was fine. Candy man, the reboot. If you ever seen candy man, the reboot of candy man,
00:39:39
Speaker
It's that, but better. And like a hundred years earlier. Oh my God, it's almost a hundred years. 1950s. Holy shit. That's like 74 years. I mean, yeah. I mean, we're not there yet. We're like halfway there. Halfway, halfway from 1950? Yeah, because it's 2024. Yeah, 50 plus 74 years.
00:40:10
Speaker
Yes, I'm saying we're halfway to it being 100. Well, more than halfway. Although it's 56. Yeah, it's 56. But it's fun. It goes by quickly. But if you like jazz, this is definitely your movie. If like Roger Corman or Robert, it's definitely your movie. It's Ronald. Ronald. All the Rs for Corman.
00:40:39
Speaker
It's kind of a comedy, but I don't know if it's purposely a comedy. Did you just stab yourself? Oh, I know. My cat did. Oh, I can't. I will say this is. You know what? It's an hour long.
00:41:09
Speaker
No, that's not long at all. No, so 3.5. Cthulhu. That makes it better. It makes it better because if this movie is any longer, it's just like, what are we doing eventually? But it's an hour, it's in, it's out, it's smart. It's the premise of Roller Gator. Roller Gator was tighter and it did it well. It's the premise of TikTok. TikTok tease, right?
00:41:35
Speaker
Okay. If that ticked off piece was an hour, a tight hour, you love it. Yeah. But they had a two hour bullshit and it sort of slagging right there. And weirdness just like weirdness. But anyway, yes, I, okay. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. So I can see this. I can see this and Roger Corman has been in the business for like 70 years. Million years.
00:42:01
Speaker
Yeah. And I'll still see this movie. Seems like a dude. I liked it. So 3.5 because that's my final. Okay. Now we bring you to natural born killers. Wow. We sure do. Don't we? From Oliver Stone, written by Quentin Tarantino star, Woody Harrelson Juliette Lewis, Tom Sizemore.
00:42:31
Speaker
Ronnie Dangerfield. Yeah. And oh boy, Ronnie Dangerfield. Robert Downey Jr. Which I did not realize that was him for like most of the movie. If you've never seen Robert Downey Jr. do a Australian character in Tropic Thunder. This is basically the same character but without the blackface. Yeah. And also like
00:43:00
Speaker
Hoo boy, like, on coke. Like... His character. His character. His character. His character. Very much. He plays really well. Oh, he plays it very well. Yeah. But yeah, this was... So I've never seen any Oliver Stone before. You're like, oh, we should watch Natural Born Killers as, like, you know, the gateway into it. And I've always seen this post, like, the box when it used to be, like,
00:43:30
Speaker
a box as a VHS. I'm that old. So I remember just seeing the box. Yeah. And it's just like, oh, and those glasses were very popular around that time. Like, very popular. I think the movie brings them back. Oh, no, it does a hundred percent because like I had an ex who had those kind of glasses. I remember seeing a whole bunch of people who had that kind of glasses. It was big. So it was like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Let's,
00:43:58
Speaker
Let's watch that because I thought it was going to be something more like, um, Oh shoot. I did not. I didn't realize what it was going to be. Like I did not realize there's going to be all this. No, I thought it was going to be like, um, I'm trying to think of the one that, uh, Daryl is in from way back in the day. They're both Irish and Daryl and my, what Bob Newhart, Daryl?
00:44:28
Speaker
No, no, no. In The Walking Dead. The Walking Dead. Oh, not there. Oh, I got the guy's face in my mind. No, it's OK. It's got a bunch of fucking people in it, man. It's got a bunch of people in it. It does. It has. Tom Sizemore in it. It's Edie McClure. Tommy Lee Jones.
00:44:54
Speaker
That's right. Tommy Lee Jones. That's what I forgot. Tommy Lee Jones as like, I mean, everybody brings their A game and above. They really do. They really do. They are like. Rodney Dangerfield was fucking phenomenal in it. Oh my God. Rodney Dangerfield. That was a very big choice that he made to accept that role. That was a really big choice. And I think he did it with a lot of
00:45:25
Speaker
He went for it. He went for it. Well, you know, he went for it. I'm not going to do it worse. He went for it because he was raped as a kid. Oh, God. Really? Yeah. I did not know that. For money, dude. Holy shit. It was incestuous a bit. And so when he's doing incestuous thing with her, it's almost like self therapy. Like, oh, he's like channeling the fucking asshole, basically.
00:45:49
Speaker
By the way, yeah, we're going to put a trigger warning on this. It's a lot. And I did not realize it was going to be, but it's a perfect time capsule of like the nineties and in that era of like violence and sexuality and
00:46:17
Speaker
also just anger at the status quo. And so it really, it felt very Tarantino. It was written by him, but he tried to, I guess it was rewritten and supposedly he tried to get his name off of it, but it's very controversial. But also in the fact that it was like, I don't know, it's seeing it from today's lens, which is kind of weird. Dicks today, I think.
00:46:45
Speaker
because the media makes them stars. They glorify these, they're not really, they're circular, but they're just basically assholes. But they're glorified, so it makes them stars, where we see that on the internet now. We see assholes become stars on the internet because people keep fucking clicking this shit. They didn't go clicking shit. Are you dehydrated from your teen wolfing out? Oh my god. We got a flavor for you.
00:47:14
Speaker
Harry balls like liquid IV.com though. Kidding. But yeah, I think it predicts it. I honestly, God, I think this predicts a lot of the internet fame. Shit. This happening, man. I think it so much predicts it as it sees that it was a trend. You know, I think, um, serial killers have always been widely publicized, widely road, you know, romanticized in a way. Um,
00:47:45
Speaker
Yeah, and I feel like this is what it was trying to kind of envision is like Bonnie and Clyde to the fucking extreme. It's supposedly a romance. I think it is a romance. I can see it as a romance.
00:48:07
Speaker
Woody Harrison and Julie Lewis. They are fucking thick and thin. That's right. That's the definition of ride and die. I don't care about Thelma and Louise. Harrison and Lewis ride and die. Mallory and Mickey. Yeah. A lot of motherfucking dying too. There was. Some riding. I mean, it was, it was basically kind of like two, two psychos in love kind of a thing.
00:48:33
Speaker
going back to the movie Psychos in Love and also going back to, I don't know, it seems like it was trying to be what it wanted kind of the Joker and Harley to be, if that makes sense. I can see that. I can see that.
00:48:53
Speaker
She's just kind of crazy. He's kind of crazy. They're crazy together, crazy in love together. I don't think it's so much as a romance though, because I feel like it's two very damaged people who are damaged together and things could slip out of the cracks. There's that moment when he wants to include a victim into their relationship.
00:49:20
Speaker
And she gets very upset by that. Yeah. Again, some of not being our sponsor, but now they want to rape a woman they kidnapped. Right. And that also goes back to her trauma, you know, and also it goes back to he's, he's looking at other, you know, women and you know, this and that it's, it's no longer about their relationship.
00:49:47
Speaker
Um, but I think every, Oh, I got phrases correctly. I think every relationship has a bit of a lull and I think he was just trying to get through his by, you know, rape. Um, yeah. Uh, hmm. So I think it's almost like he was doing the cult leader thing at that point.
00:50:14
Speaker
I don't think he was doing a cult leader thing at that point. I think he was getting to the point where he was thinking, is this, you know, Mallory and Mickey or is this Mickey and Mallory? We talked about the demon and winning in love and show it that throughout the entire movie. Yeah. There's a lot of like metaphysical, uh, bajeba. I'd like to say like, you know, they literally have a fucking native American.
00:50:46
Speaker
Well, yeah, they have Russell Means. Yes, yes, but it's like- The only accidental death. Yes. The entire movie. It's the only time he's ever sad he killed someone. But it's, it is the whole like, you know, he's trying to exercise the demons from them. Um, cause they got, is it, I forget, did they get bit by a rattlesnake before that or after that? I think after that.
00:51:14
Speaker
after because he thought he was coming for it and then see freaks out and he starts he actually does shoot the guy by fucking accident. He does. Unintentionally kills him. Unintentionally. And that was the only unintentional, but again, it's, it's the whole, I don't know. They did this a lot in the nineties where it was like, you know, like, Oh, native American secrets and I think that's how poltergeist two starts.
00:51:43
Speaker
I think it kind of is. It has it in the middle somewhere, I guess. It has it. I mean, it was very, that was just part of the times. And it's interesting to kind of look back on that now. This is some Edward Said. I would honestly completely scrap the first part. Really?
00:52:03
Speaker
Enjoyed the second part so much more so when they get to the rest I would keep the first purpose Tom Sizemore's performance is amazing He becomes like I can I can I can catch a killer if I am the killer Yeah, like he he goes off he goes off like yes because he's he's there basically to catch them He's a police detective He's also romanticizing them and romanticizing like
00:52:33
Speaker
capturing them, but also being them. It's very, it's very interesting. He tries to get with Louis. Yeah. Again, there's a lot of rapey, dapey things. Um, she leads him on to, to, to obviously like pull a fast one on him. So there is a lot of rapey stuff in there, but is it unnecessary, rapey stuff?
00:52:59
Speaker
Is there any rape scene that says you ever see any of them that were like, this is inauthentic? I feel like, um, I just feel like the one with the victim was just weird, you know, especially not inauthentic. I mean that they're kidnapping a woman. It's different when you just kill them just to kill them for fun, but that was a different killed. She was kidnapped though. That's what I'm saying.
00:53:27
Speaker
It was different. It was a different MO. If they were just killing and he had maybe looked at one of the victims and she would be like, what the hell are you doing? Instead of him, because obviously he knows that she was very hurt by being raped by her father.
00:53:47
Speaker
The character that Rodney played. No, no, no, no. Um, and that death scene was very, although I feel like the mom got it way worse than the dad. Uh, the dad's was very quick. Um, but it was really good and fish tank and whatnot. Which is weird because the mom was taking a bunch of shit from the dad too. Like she was the typical mom who took the beating as well.
00:54:15
Speaker
Yeah, but she didn't, she didn't speak up. Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah. That's a typical that time period mom. Yeah. That's true. Um, but like I said, I feel like it was a bit unwarranted in that fact. Um, I feel like if they're going to play the love thing, like maybe don't do that. Cause that goes against their MO. Their MO is just to create chaos and fast and like fast chaos is kind of the thing.
00:54:46
Speaker
I don't think so. I don't think so because when they get married, it's very, very ritualistic. Blood ceremony, right? It's like blood brothers. Yeah. Yeah, basically. And they get married together. So anyway, yeah, the first part, like I know it needed to be there, but to me it just
00:55:11
Speaker
was weirdness, chaos. I was watching scenes and I'm like, okay, where are these going? Okay, that's where I went. All right. Yeah, basically. That was a very 90s thing. Yeah, that was a very 90s thing too. But it was when we get to the prison because they get captured and we get to the prison. I think that's where it finally started to become fun for me.
00:55:36
Speaker
Because they had a goal in mind at that point then. How do you get to that goal? How can you survive that goal? Who's going to live and who's going to die? I did like the interview. I thought the interview was really interesting and fun.
00:55:55
Speaker
But yeah, so, and that's when we see Tommy Lee Jones, who's incredible. And that's where we see Robert Downey Jr., who again, I did not even recognize for a really long time until he had said one thing and I'm like, it was like Oppenheimer all over again. I'm like, he said one thing and I'm like, holy shit, that's Robert Downey Jr. So yeah.
00:56:22
Speaker
Um, it ended, it ended kind of where I thought it was going to end. Um, and, and, and that, that, that was a movie that I watched. Okay. Now, because you don't remember, you don't remember watching this before. You never watched it before. Which was it? I've never watched it. I've never watched this before because I didn't remember why I knew I watched it.
00:56:48
Speaker
But then we were going through the people and they're like that motherfuckers. Really? What the hell? That's another, another one. Who knew? I will say that this does time capsule the shit that we watched in the mid nineties.
00:57:13
Speaker
Pretty well, it made fashions. It may or may not make Quentin Tarantino's career, you know, right or wrong. Let's see, Quentin Tarantino, what movie did he do before and after? Um, I'm looking.
00:57:34
Speaker
So he does Pulp Fiction right before and Reservoir Dogs. Reservoir Dogs. Yeah. But only a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. And then Pulp Fiction, boom. Yeah. Really big. And then, and then Jacky Brown. So he does Pulp Fiction and Natural Well Killers come out in the same fucking year. Yeah. That's a big one. That's a big thing. Yeah. And then Dust of Dawn's, Jacky Brown's come out a little bit later. So Kill Bills, of course.
00:58:02
Speaker
Yeah. And again, like, I don't know, Pulp Fiction had a lot of the same, I mean, not the same message, but a lot of the same style, but it felt more substantial than
00:58:16
Speaker
Well, first of all, the interrelated story is going to each other. And this is going to be more, it's still one story, but because of the amount of drugs and we see the lensing through it, it gets a little bit disjointed of it. And I think the reason why, and this could, I could be wrong, but the reason why I think you like the movie when it goes into the prison, I think this, when you said it because of the structure, right?
00:58:42
Speaker
Yeah, I think the structure changes because it's one location Instead of a road change. Yeah, so yeah kind of makes it into a middle It does and and like I said before like before that it was like what was their goal their goal was to kill And that's just be chaos demons and then when you get to it like you have a lot more fun characters that are there for the whole ride and that
00:59:10
Speaker
I mean, cause Robert Downey Jr's character goes through a huge. He does a character arc. He does. He doesn't do a character arc. He does a fucking character arc, man. He does. And, and so does, um, what's his, well, the other guy doesn't do a character arc, but it is size more just because size more. Yeah. Just get, um, just get into the mix of that. And, and again, like, uh,
00:59:38
Speaker
It was fun. And again, how are they going to get out? What are they going to do? How are they going to survive? Are they going to survive? The stakes were much more, I feel like, just approachable and reasonable and engaging. Whereas the first part was just like, again, just kind of like, yeah, we're doing this, we're doing that. Now we're in the desert and there's a Native American who's our spirit guide.
01:00:05
Speaker
All right. How your memory works when you're on drugs. You're not going to remember everything. No, I'm going to blow your mind in a second. You ready? I think so. So we named a bunch of people was in it, right? Well, we forgot Stephen Wright, the comedian, Stephen Wright as a therapist. So a lot, a lot of fucking, he was like, Oh,
01:00:28
Speaker
We've seen Steven Ray is going to be semi balding with the curly hair, a little bit lucky. I'll name the people we didn't see yet. Ashley Judds in this. Oh yeah, that's right. Ashley Judds in it. What else? Very hardy. Mark Harmon is in it.
01:00:51
Speaker
And Boris Boris Karloff's in it from our side footage, not actually in it. Yeah. Who else? OJ Simpson is it? They had an actual murder in it. You're talking to about like some of the director's cut. Ashley Judd was in the director's cut. It was Dennis Leary. Dennis fucking Leary. But I can't believe they actually had a murder. Maybe natural bone killers is actually about OJ. Allegedly.
01:01:19
Speaker
Allegedly about, oh dear, allegedly he killed his wife and brutally murdered her lover, or his ex-wife and the lover. I'm not sure which alleged about that is. I think it's interesting that obviously this was, it's surprising it didn't get the NC-17. I'm sure that they had to cut it a lot.
01:01:41
Speaker
Yeah, then it caught him killing his wife. Sorry. I'm sorry. To all the people that OJ killed before, I apologize. On behalf of society for letting him out. And we should probably talk about the controversy that surrounded this because it did romanticize being a killer and being cool and having cool glasses. Having cool glasses. The John Lennon glasses.
01:02:11
Speaker
Yeah. And it supposedly did have some copycat crimes that happened because of it. Was OJ one of them? No, no, you know that. Oh, because Mickey doesn't kill Mallory and Tom Sizemore's character. Where's my kazoo?
01:02:39
Speaker
Anyway, anyway, they had had some. Thank you. They did have some, I guess, copycat because again, I mean, if you look on it at its face, it's saying that we are romanticizing these killers, but also it romanticizes killers. Spoiler alert, it ends happily.
01:03:10
Speaker
It does. Well, not for Robert Downey Jr's character, but no, I think for his as well, because he gets exactly what he wants. He gets to be famous, famous and free. Yeah. So what would you give? And we, by the way, Leonard Cohen does part of the soundtrack. So, Oh yes, I forgot about that.
01:03:36
Speaker
When it started off with Leonard Cohen, I'm like, holy shit, what is happening? Um, because I, I did, I do love Leonard Cohen, RIP. Um, so the soundtrack, the soundtrack. It did have a 17 original rating. Oh, okay. That doesn't surprise me. They changed it off. So they did some cutting as you said. Yeah, I'm sure you would have to. Um, I'm sure, especially for like the demon scenes with Mickey and, and
01:04:07
Speaker
you know, when he's demon-ing out. The music was good. The soundtrack was good. A great little encapsulated, you know, time. The action was good. The action was great. I thought it was, it kicked some ass. The blood was good. The blood.
01:04:33
Speaker
I mean, the acting again, like Woody Harrelson is such a, he has such a large range of what he can do. Yeah. He was basically the goofball from Cheers before and killing motherfuckers. Like I can tell people I don't do comedy no more. Yeah. A bunch of motherfuckers. Like, and he, he has such a huge range and he's still an incredible actor. So I'm, I'm glad that he was able to.
01:05:01
Speaker
do something, you know, that was completely different. Um, Juliette Lewis, I, I do love her. I felt like this was a little bit, a kind of a little bit manic pixie killer dream girl. Right. Um, I do like that she did, you know, have some agency and she could kick ass as much as he could kick ass. That was kind of nice. That starts off in the very first scene.
01:05:29
Speaker
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I feel like the stylized bits feel dated. I feel like they're going to feel more dated as we go on. There were some good ideas with it, but some of them too were just like, OK.
01:05:55
Speaker
I didn't really particularly like going from black and white to color and switching back and forth. And, um, some of the other stuff, yeah, it gets kind of druggie sequence. Let's, that's Oliver Stone. Yeah. I mean, again, it's, it's a stylized choice. I just don't particularly enjoy it. Um, like I said, I think my favorite part was at the end. I feel like that had the most, uh, energy to it.
01:06:26
Speaker
and more of the comedy that I was expecting.
01:06:34
Speaker
Yeah, that's my thoughts on this movie. So that's not bad. Thank you. If you like this movie, you really love. Why am I looking at my own fucking book? I don't know the goddamn title. You really love surviving Gen X. If you like this movie, you want to go with like Gen X, go to surviving Gen X, get it from Joe, chef, check, go to Amazon, who gives a shit, buy it now, steal it from the shelves. I don't care. Get some of that. Yeah. If you want another like encapsulated thing from the 90s that like
01:07:03
Speaker
is stylized as well. You can get Surviving Gen X. Get the book that our book talk calls a book. That was very painful to me to watch. You know what? I'm gonna talk about this after the movie though. So I like this. I love the movie. I love the characters in the movie. I love the acting in the movie. Everyone does a phenomenal performance. Phenomenal performance from everyone involved. But motherfucker, there's time I was watching like,
01:07:33
Speaker
maybe like you were doing it, what the fuck's this? Every once in a while, I think I even took a fucking screenshot, I was watching a movie like, box, what the fuck is this? You did, you did, and you're like, I said, I'm just starting it now, and you're like, good luck. Yeah, I was like, good luck, motherfucker, stop it, I'll shut up. But it doesn't match up to my memory, but again, I was blackout drunk. Simba, or Kimba, or Simba, Simba.
01:07:59
Speaker
I think everyone should watch it, though. I, you know, watch it at least once. There are some trigger warnings you must be aware of. A lot of shit's going to go down. Read The Frontal Guide. No spoilers there. But it's worthy of watching it. And I'm looking at. Julett Luce's movies before California for Kay. That was a pretty fucking hardcore movie as well. Cape Fear. She goes. Yeah, she goes hardcore.
01:08:28
Speaker
Basketball fires happens after this. Dasta Dawn happens after this. Nick's nuts, okay. Not everyone's. But there's some fucking chops in this. And this is really cool to see. I liked it enough to watch it again, but I won't buy it though. I won't buy it. I had to rent it. I did have to rent it.
01:08:51
Speaker
Oh, I'm sorry. Invoice me. Okay. Tom Sizemore, I mean, everyone does a great fucking job as a cast. If I'm doing acting and just acting, five out of five Cthulhu's. But motherfucker, I think you're right. Yeah. An hour and 59 movies like two hours, a non-director cut. Yeah. You can probably do an hour 30.
01:09:19
Speaker
You have a tighter fucking movie and actually have the less, let's say, less masturbatory scenes of just the self gratification of we can suit this scene because we can. Yeah, it doesn't really do much to the storyline. It's Joker and Harley Quinn, but with.
01:09:43
Speaker
I don't know, like brand new movie person. I mean, you could cut it down. You don't have to keep telling us, oh, they're killers and then showing us, oh, they're killers. We got it. We got it in the first scene. We got it right there. Yeah, absolutely. Beyond that, it's just kind of like a chase movie that fought a lot of chase. And then it's like, maybe they'll escape, maybe they won't. And then they hit the jail.
01:10:12
Speaker
I wouldn't even watch this if this was a because sometimes like, well, maybe if they took longer to tell a story, it'll be better. No, it would not be better. If there's a mini series, there's a hang as a mini series. Yeah. Like true detective is great. Woody Harrison is it? Oh, absolutely. Because it's a mini series. This one I can't just fucking can't do. All right. So if we're doing this for real, it's not just the acting. Fuck, would I give the other one three five?
01:10:43
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I think so. Three, five, six, seven, three, five, four, five. It's better than the other one, but it's not a four for me. It's just not. I would give it a three. A three. But I would not recommend everybody to watch it. I would say if you're interested in something of like a time capsule of that time, if you're interested in film and how it progresses over time, I think that's a good place to also go.
01:11:12
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To be honest, the story just didn't stick. I would much rather say watch Pulp Fiction or watch Jackie Brown or something like that to get, I think, a better story. Cape Fear. I want to watch Cape Fear. It's been a while since I've seen Cape Fear. It's weird to say this.
01:11:37
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It seems like a movie that wasted the acting talent and yet the acting talent did phenomenal jobs.
01:11:52
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to watch Jim Malkovich be a black and white clown was like genius, right? Like this. I mean, there's, there's moments in here that are just genius. Like Tommy Lee Jones's character is phenomenal. Um, Robert Downey Jr's character and character arc is fucking phenomenal. The fact that he gets one, the fact that every fucking person here gets a character arc, unless like,
01:12:18
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Maybe the parents in beginning cause they fucking get killed early on. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty amazing to see, but it's genius. Yeah. There, there is some, and that's why I'm, I'm giving it a three. Like I'm not going to discredit it. It's just, it wasn't really the movie for me. It's not the style that I like. Um, but I think if
01:12:40
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Like I said, if people are really interested in movies of that time or looking at film and seeing how film progresses over time, that's a good place in the 90s, the mid 90s.
01:12:50
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Absolutely. Absolutely. I think it's worthy of a horror cult classic title because that's, it's a cult classic, meaning it's going to have it in this audience. People are going to watch it again and again. They're going to be natural born killers, like, oh, we have to watch it when there's fucking 16, 15, whatever it is nowadays. And then they'll forget about it. See, I feel like if a team were to watch it today, they would find it cringy.
01:13:20
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I feel like, I feel like they would find a cringe. I do. No way to find out who's got a teen who has to fucking do this experiment, but you know what? I like teens teens in our audio. The nineties where you could still sell cigarettes to kids.
01:13:41
Speaker
And in fact, you know, I kind of miss menthols. If I miss Virginia Slims and people smoking, uh, marble lights. And I do know that sometimes we talk about sponsors and did you know that quitting smoking as 20 years of your life? Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, it's smoking's not a great thing to do.
01:14:11
Speaker
Right. I feel like where are we going? My doctor was very pissed at me for doing that. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. No. Well, I figured because my heart and shit like that, it was short in my lifespan. So I figured if I start smoking and then they quit, it actually adds 20 years. So the heart's taking off. Yeah. It's like a net gain of 10 years. Yeah. That's not how that works. That's what the fucking doctors have to be today too. God damn it. That's how math works.
01:14:40
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Mine is 10 plus 20 smoking. How about you? How about you rehydrate yourself? Because we hydrate myself. Yeah. Cause that's a much better, uh, goal to have in mind. And you can do it at liquid.com.com. I hear team Wolf isn't ball sweat. Is it here? Ian McKellen is really into staying hydrated and fit.
01:15:08
Speaker
hydrated and fit. We're spinning, we're spinning, we're spinning. So what you got for me for a thingamajigger? Oh, my thingamajigger? Okay. Good plug. That's what I want to say. I'm getting it right now. Um, so there was fandom Trump's hate again for it's, I don't know what year, but basically if you want to go do it, it's already too late, too bad, but one of the places.
01:15:37
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that I did donate to because of them is called pollinator.org.
Pollinator.org and Conservation Efforts
01:15:43
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Again, that's pollinator, P-O-L-L-I-N-A-T-O-R.org. Basically, what they do is they help conserve and maintain honeybees and pollen and making sure that we don't go extinct.
01:16:05
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extinct. Yeah, but they have like a lot of like, um, farming certifications that you can do. They have, um, pollination partners and making gardens that are rich for, um, to pollinate, to have bees come into, and that's what they do. So part of my money went to that and I say, go and check it out.
01:16:27
Speaker
That's not fair. And world B day is coming up. World B day. I'm waiting for world double D day. You know what I mean? That's the way, that's the day I want Jimbo. We're all double days. What about, what about bees? Bees. Bees are right. You know, I ain't thinking no more. I don't think it pain ever was piggy. Honestly, I don't think it was. So it's the pollinator.org pollinator.org.
01:16:55
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But that are, okay, that's not bad. I can dig deep. Take these guys down pain. These bees. These bees. These bees. And then for me, I'm going to push.
01:17:09
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My what's
Entertainment Events and Live Shows
01:17:10
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cracking. That's right. We got rubber beetle coming up. We got hardcore Jones. We got, we got chaos comics. We've got haunted hotels. Wow. Haunted hospitals is coming up and I learned one thing coming off my press junket. You know what? I learned box coming off. I pressed fucking junket for my book to learn after coming off your press junket for your fucking buck.
01:17:37
Speaker
I'm really fucking good at what's cracking. You are fucking nightmare shit. Oh, was it that bad? Some I, I, I loved all the, all the people who had me on the show. I always thank them and it's all awesome sauce. And then sometimes you see other PR or other press go out about it. I'm like, how the fuck did you do that?
01:18:02
Speaker
Like I had to reread my book for one of them. Like, what the fuck? Anyways, so I appreciate everyone who does a good job out there and I can't wait to do beams, B E M S again. I loved you guys. That was awesome. Talking about some stuff and it's all live. They do a live show.
01:18:21
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like beams fucking, uh, voice of indie does a live show. That's a maze balls, man. That's, that's fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we do like a live show only because I don't edit shit, but they actually have very live because people aren't, you know, besides terror reads or big foot. Yeah.
01:18:41
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but they had collars. It was pretty wild, but I can't wait to talk to people from haunted hospitals as teeny channel season five, haunted hospitals. And I cannot wait to have a crack with Kim there. Wow. Okay. Brian Johnson. Yeah. The boys are coming back out there. You know, it's a Brian Johnson and I can't, I can't wait for Kim and Meg.
01:19:07
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I'm hooking them up pretty soon. Very creepy stuff. Go check it out. Season five, haunted hospitals. Check out Hamlet with Ian Sir Ian McKellen.
Ian McKellen as Hamlet
01:19:16
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Sorry, Sir Ian McKellen. And that's going to be a full course from Kaleidoscope Productions. I'm Blu-ray. Yeah. Home entertainment. Classical poem entertainment. I fucked that blog up. Blu-ray. You can't let Ian McKellen go Google the shit.
01:19:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Hamlet. It's Hamlet. I mean, if you don't know what Hamlet is now, you should know. You should know by now. And Ian McKellen plays Hamlet. And the first thing I heard about this, like, when I first saw him, I was like, how the fuck is he playing Hamlet? He's like 80. Yeah. But it works. Interesting. And it makes me wonder, like, shit, I can play Hamlet. I can't wait. I really thought like he was going to play the dad.
01:20:05
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dad ghost, ghost dad. We see talk about, Hey, rape is not our sponsor. I would much rather have Ian McKellen as my ghost dad. I'd say I'd much rather have Ian McKellen than Bill Cosby.
01:20:25
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As my ghost dad. As your ghost dad? Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna be after myself.
Wrap-up and Humorous Reflections
01:20:30
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Jim Phoenix, my guest host, guest host, like co-host. I don't know, man. I'm tired. I don't know. Box human, like, subscribe, pass it on. I don't give a fuck. All of this and more on the next. Oh, treatment demons in it. Or wait.
01:20:52
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That's your outro, hold on. You already did, yeah. Oh man, I guess we'll see you guys for Easter. Wait, we do want to do the Easter thing? I'm serious. I want to see Passionate Christ. I'll do a fucking write-up of that shit. Alright, we'll talk about it. I've already been banned from churches for my book. Let's keep the fucking good times rolling on that shit. Churches and schools now, by the fuckers. Yeah. We want to do that. And what we're... Wait, which one were we doing together then?
01:21:24
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Wait, wait, it's a crow one with Tara Reid. Yeah, it's the crow one. I hear a cat