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Speaker: Welcome. For real. All right, welcome back to Central. I'm back. I'm back here again with kick. How's it going, buddy? It's all right, man. I got covid. My friends all have covid. I mean, I feel all right, but I have covid so.
Speaker: objectively not great, but not that bad. Yeah. Well, uh, sounds, sounds fun. Yeah. I mean, I don't really have any symptoms like I, you know, but like, you know, and neither do pretty much any of my friends, but we all have it. So yeah, the fun. Yeah. It's fun. Um,
Speaker: Yeah, so we're going to talk about the watcher in a bit, but first I did have some news. There was two new streaming services, horror streaming services. One's not really new. Screenbox has been around the same time as Shutter, but it never picked up. Who were they affiliated with?
Speaker: I don't think they were affiliated with anybody at the, when they first started, but, um, now they've, uh, affiliated with, uh, bloody disgusting .com, uh, who has their own, like, uh, live streaming, uh, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard bloody disgusting before. Okay. Yeah. They're pretty popular. They've been around for like 20 years or so.
Speaker: I mean, but like, are they like, are they like affiliate with like a larger company like NBC or Fox or, you know, somebody like, you know, more known or just going to be a, another random charge on your credit card every month. Yeah. Another random charge. Yeah.
Speaker: Well, they are owned by like a bigger company, but not like a big studio or anything like that. Like they have an over see here, but it's not like a an AMC like owns shutter. So but they do have a Terrifier to.
Speaker: which is, oh, I mean, my, my goodness gracious. I mean, why are, you know, we not signing up just based on that. Yeah. Uh, they also have the documentaries for it, pet cemetery and hell razor. And, uh, they are getting a, uh, an exclusive, um, always all jacked up and full of worms, which is a, which was a popular, um,
Speaker: I don't know if it was, it wasn't Sundance. It was a, some festival thing that everyone's talking about. You led with, they have Terrifier part. Nobody knows what that is. My goodness gracious. That is not good promotion for them. I mean, led with that.
Speaker: I mean, it kind of is. I mean, it's in theaters and it's making money right now. Terrifier two is in theaters. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was not aware of that. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like, so it is terrifying. Terrifier one was not, I mean, if you're not familiar with Terrifier, I mean, it's real bad.
Speaker: Terrifier one had like what budget of like fucking nine grand Yeah, I really love budget but yeah, the second one got a there at a limited theatrical release So then they kept they kept it in theaters because people kept going to see it so Yeah, so yeah, it's still in theaters now and select theaters obviously it's not and like I
Speaker: everywhere. But I'm pretty sure it's going to get a third one too, because they've already talked about it. And they are putting it up for, you know, they're sending in the the Oscar nomination thing, you know, to see, you know, submitting it to the Oscars for for Best Makeup Award. So they're trolling. Not like, not like Best Picture Anything, but Best Makeup, I think, I mean, I thought the makeup was really well done in this, you know, the special effects.
Speaker: All right. Moving on. It's let's see. I can probably tell you how much it is made to make a million dollars. 10 million women, 10 fucking million dollars. Yeah. Since it's originally released in theaters. So, dude, that is great. I guess I'll have to like, you know, skim through it. Like, God, damn, it is long. It's all that happened this one. It is like two and a half hours.
Speaker: Oh yeah, you did mention that. I mean, I mean, it's like the story is real dumb. Does anyone else get solved in half? Not solved in half, but there's some pretty brutal shit in it. There's some solving. There's some.
Speaker: there's some things. I can't remember who the lead actress was in the first low budget one. But like, she is like one of my dream women. She's like one of the most like, when it came on, I was like, wow, this is really stupid. But that woman is dead up gorgeous as shit. And I just ended up watching it for her. And, you know, I saw the scene where he saws that one check in half. And I was just like,
Speaker: Yeah, it was worth it. You know, I mean, but the first one was only like, um, an hour, hour and like 10 minutes, hour and 10, hour, 15 thoughts. So like, it wasn't like I lost too much of my life. Like I can't imagine two and a half hours of terrified. Well, uh, that's getting way too into terrifier. I mean, maybe we'll have a cast about that. Like after, um,
Speaker: everything. We'll see how much money it makes. And if it like merits talking about it, we could do a budget test or something like that. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Well, I have a lot of free. I'm going to have a lot of free time over the next couple of weeks. So maybe I'll check it out. So sign up for a screen box and and watch Terrifier two and all jacked up on worm and full of worms. The other streaming service is a brand new one called Hard TV.
Speaker: Again, both of these are real cheap. They have a sale going on. It's supposed to be more like fan curated. They did a Q &A the other day. I haven't watched it yet, but he wants more input from the fans of what they want to see. He's going to try to get stuff on there. I think they only have a few movies on there now. I haven't really looked at their list yet.
Speaker: But I mean, it's another horror stream of service. We'll see how long that lasts, but now there's three of them out there. So if you don't, if you've already watched everything on shutter, you have screen box and now you have horror dash TV. So yeah. And you got both of those on your credit card bill every month. Yeah. The yearly one and cancel it. But yeah, the other news, I don't know if I mentioned it before, but they were working on a prequel to it.
Speaker: called welcome to dairy and development on HBO. There's supposed to lead kind of into it chapter one and the
Speaker: the mooch and eddies, right? Is that how you say they're, you know, Barbara and is he going to be, is he going to be the director of it or a producer? They are. He's one of the showrunners. I think they're both actually showrunners. They're executive producers anyway. And Andy is being I to direct the pilot.
Speaker: So, and then they've got the Fuchs and Kane as well. Jason Fuchs and Brad Kane are the other two showrunners. It's still, they just got the showrunners and executive producers. They haven't announced any casting. Any cast. Yeah. So we don't, we don't even know if they're going to pursue him or not. I hope they do.
Speaker: I would, yeah, I mean, I would like it if he was, I mean, I definitely like have more faith in that. I personally would like the, uh, most of that factor to like go away though. I'd like to see new people take over the project. Well, yeah, I think he's just going to direct the pilot and then somebody else will do the rest of those change directors for the rest of it. So he's going to set like the, pretty much the tone in the way it looks. Uh, and, uh, and then from there, like the other directors were directors will have more, uh,
Speaker: freedom, but they have to go within the confines of the looks in it. They can't just change the look.
Speaker: Yeah. I just, I'd like, um, I'd like fresh, I'd like a fresh, um, fresh eyes on it. I'd like, um, fresh writing and stuff like that. I'd like a new, uh, I'd like a new vision if they, uh, do this. I don't know. Also, I mean, not going to get too into it, but, uh, yeah, I'll definitely look for it. But, um, yeah, I, I, I'd like them to take a slightly darker direction. Yeah, that'd be dope. I mean, it's going to be on my show. So we'll see. Yeah.
Speaker: Um, yeah, that was it. That was it for the news so we can get into the Watcher now. Uh, and when we say the Vacha, we mean the series. Yes. This time we made the film because we were going over, uh, all the Watchers and there's been like several, well, that was Watcher was, we
Speaker: You know, and not actually the watcher cause I had like made the error. Well, if you like where to do like an IMDB search and just type in watcher over the last, uh, I guess just this year, there was like two or three.
Speaker: And over the last 20 years, I think there's like about five movies that were, at least five productions that were either Watcher or The Watcher. So to be clear, this is the 2022 Netflix series that just premiered. I believe it premiered on October 13th. That features Naomi Watts and Bobby Cannavale.
Speaker: And Mia Farrow. Yes. Yeah. But yeah, it's basically about a married couple, Naomi Watson and Bobby Cannavale. They move in. They move into a dream home in New Jersey, threatened by and they were threatened by terrifying letters from a stalker signed The Watcher. It's from Ryan Murphy, who did American Horror Story.
Speaker: Uh, he's the, you know, the creator and, um, it's based on a true story. I mean, very inspired by something that happened. Well, you know, they put based on the true story, like on the, uh, poster and in the beginning as well. So they always do that. Like they have to do that. I mean, I don't know, but like, um, just.
Speaker: I saw like some interviews with Bobby Cannavale and like some of the other casts and I had read some stuff and they were very open. Like the production team, they were very clear that this was very loosely baked. Like the events, like they made it known. Yeah. They sensationalized the fucking hell out of this story.
Speaker: So nobody was trying to like say like, oh, you know, this is closely nailed down until I mean, as much as they say that when you watch, when you look at the trailer and they say based on a true story and they put it on the fucking poster as well, you kind of like tend to make people think that like a lot of it is true.
Speaker: And that's why I don't like that at all. Like you can go out and say it, but not everyone's going to watch the interview or read about it online. They're just going to look at it on the poster when they go to turn on Netflix or like, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, I guess American audiences. Well, you know what? I assume that.
Speaker: Intelligent viewers who like realize how horseshit that is, like, you know, I mean, when they see like based on three story or inspired by true events. Like, for example, a good example would be like the exorcism of Emily Rose with Jennifer Gardner that came out with Laura Linney.
Speaker: And, you know, that was based on like a girl in a young lady in Germany from a very religious family in the 1970s. She became like possessed and they went through this whole thing. And, you know, there was a court case and the church was on trial for the treatment, whatever. But like at the end of Emily Rose, like Laura Linney's character,
Speaker: was they tried to make it seem like her character was real and it said that she released her court filings and like disclosed like all the discoveries she made and how true the story or when these character didn't fucking exist there is no person in real life never existed there was no one that released all their shit like it was just completely fictitious i'm just saying like at least
Speaker: With the Watcher, when the cast and crew was interviewed, they said this is exclusively based on a true story. And I hope that a lot of people that go and watch these movies, I hope they know that most of this shit is all sensationalized bullshit.
Speaker: If it's not like a documentary, if you know what I mean, it's not like there's not narration. If there's not like actual clips and footage within the film or show itself, you should be taking it with a grain of sand. So that's just like my little rant on like, based on true shit, you should never believe that it is even close to verbatim what happened.
Speaker: Yeah, but I think that's one of the reasons why like the reviews aren't as good as they probably should be. Well, that's something that yeah, that's something that you could talk about. We were just mentioning it before the cast. I am the pay. I mean, is like I, let's just say first off, I enjoyed the show. Yeah, I did too. I thought it was decent. I actually went back and rewatched a few things. But
Speaker: If you were just to go based on IMDB, and I generally do follow IMDB on whether or not I think this is going to be worthy of my time, and usually if a television show is below 7 .5,
Speaker: I won't even touch it like you know I mean unless it's something for the cast or something that I know is going to be like kind of shitty and like but like I have an interest in I think it's gonna be funny bad horror something like that.
Speaker: Dude, this is, it's got 45 ,000 ratings and it's 6 .5 on IMDb and it's got a great cast. And I thought it was like very, I didn't think it was anything groundbreaking, but I thought it was very, very decent. And I'm shocked that it, I mean, these are the type of reviews that like low budget Netflix things got.
Speaker: like you know I mean like this is like well no I was gonna say Resident Evil like bad reviews not Resident Evil was like 3 .3 or something but um I'm just saying like it got absolutely hammered by uh user reviews at least. What would you rate it?
Speaker: Like on IMDB, I'm not sure what I will. I'll tell you this, it would be higher than six point five. Yeah, I always say like I say it's close. I'd say it's like at least a seven, seven point five somewhere around. I would say like I'm going to say seven point six, seven point seven, something like that between seven point. It's not going to be eight point. Oh, but like I'm saying like with with.
Speaker: considering you have 45 ,000 people that have reviewed it and rated it, I would say that it's like between like 7 .5 and like 7 .75. That's that's where I'll go. That's usually shit.
Speaker: Yeah, I bet it's a lot of the bad reviews were probably from people who like didn't know that it was like an unsolved case or like didn't know like his lead at the end kind of does leave you like Unfulfilled because they we should know they already signed for a second. See yeah, I did I know but like yeah at that point It's kind of like what else you're gonna do with the second season
Speaker: So I think you're going to go completely off the fucking rails because this had, I really wish that they did not add the whole, I think you're right. I think a lot of the criticism the show has got and just skimming through the forms and reading some of the actually written user reviews, people have taken great exception with the fact that like a lot of people were saying,
Speaker: that they thought the actual story that what actually did transpire here at Westfield, New Jersey was more interesting than the show. I saw that mention more than once. Now, I have not dug in too much to the actual story, but here were some of the key takeaways that I noted before actually getting into the show itself. One, the family never lived there, I don't believe.
Speaker: In the actual story, the family purchases the house and they were doing it for financial gain. They were planning to renovate the house and turn a profit in the future. That was their motivation. They considered possibly
Speaker: having it as a temporary residence for a while but their main factor was they were taking advantage of a you know a housing market that was very favorable to buyers and they were planning to flip it for a substantial profit.
Speaker: and they never actually lived there so the family was absolutely at no point in time is there any evidence that the family was ever in any danger uh the watcher himself the guy that was writing these malicious letters which did happen and at first
Speaker: The letters that they got were actually positive letters when they first bought the property. They were actually positive, like welcoming letters. They thought it was someone from the neighborhood, stuff like that. And then they got darker over time.
Speaker: But the main thing is the family was never in any danger. The watcher did not know the names of the children or anything like that of the family. So basically the only thing this was was a fucking stalker writing a bunch of fucking crazy letters. And there were some like
Speaker: I think some bizarre occurrences around the house, like I think maybe somebody like trespass, I think there might have been some vandalism or something like that. Maybe you can check me on those facts. I'm not sure if you know for certain, but basically other than like someone purchasing a property, planning to flip it and getting nasty letters, everything else was just fucking bullshit. This is just all made up.
Speaker: Not quite everything. First, the letters were a little more serious, you know, threatening in the beginning. The first one was... I thought they were polite in the beginning. No, I can read you the letter if you'd like. It's short. Yeah, go for it. You have the original, the first letter. Yes. They put it online. Go for it, yeah.
Speaker: Dearest new neighbor at 657 Boulevard, allow me to welcome you to the neighborhood. 657 Boulevard has been the subject of my family for decades now and as it approaches its 110th birthday, I've been put in charge of watching and waiting for its second coming. My grandfather watched the house in the 1920s and my father watched in the 1960s. It is now my time. Do you know the history of the house? Do you know what lies within the walls of 657 Boulevard? Why are you here? I will find out.
Speaker: And like, yeah, that was the first letter they got. Yeah. I, I guess I read something where they said the letters were first, like, you know, hello neighbor, like, we're glad you're here. And then like, it started to get like.
Speaker: It started to get darker and darker and darker. So that's just like straight up, like from the very beginning, like I'm here to fuck with you. Like there, there, there's no, there's no friendly like hello neighbor. There's no nothing like this guy is like a fucking like a male stalker. That's, you know, from the very beginning. Yeah. Do you want the, uh, the next one?
Speaker: I, if you want to, if you think it's relevant. Do you need to fill the house with the young blood? Yeah. Do you need to fill the house with the young blood? I request it better for me. Was your old house too small for your grown family or was it greed to bring me your children?
Speaker: Wait, or was it greed to bring me your show? Yeah, okay, it's not me. Once I know their names, I will call to them and draw them to me. And then the author, at the end of the letter, signed it, welcome, my friends, welcome, let the party begin, and signed it the watcher. So some of what he read in the show was actually verbatim. Like there was the Youngblood thing that was
Speaker: but there's no evidence whatsoever that the Watcher actually knew this guy's like whole family information, how many kids he had, names of his children, anything like that. Like he didn't start like listing their names and ages and senses or anything like that. He wasn't like, that was all absolutely like made up. Yeah. And the children were a lot younger as well.
Speaker: Yeah, again, they had never moved in the house. He got these. They never were even on the property. Yeah. Like, yeah. Well, no, the guy renovation and he checked the mail and found the found the workers that way. Yeah. But yeah, those those are the two layers. Also, the.
Speaker: the graft murders that happen, you know, in the show, it happens like in the house. Yeah. Where he kills his mother, his wife, and then his son and daughter. A son and daughter, but like he eats the sandwich stuff. That all actually happened in real life, just not in that house, but in the same town. It was the, it's called the list murders.
Speaker: And is it Westfield, New Jersey or West Plainfield? It's Westfield. Westfield. That actually happened in that town.
Speaker: And the guy had actually vanished for like 18 years and they, uh, he, I think he had moved two places and they called him in like Florida probably or someplace like that. And he was remarried. And, uh, the only reason they called him was because they did a thing. He went to Florida. He went to Florida, the remarriage. Of course he did. He, um,
Speaker: They found them because they did a special on America's Most Wanted. And they made a cast of what he would look like aged up and it looks shocking. So Robert Stack ended up getting them? Yeah, right. That guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he was a non -solved mysteries guy.
Speaker: Yeah. And when when did those murders occur, roughly? You said in the 1970s that that is when they because you went missing for for 18 years, I believe. And then they called him in like the 90s, I think it was. And he was, you know, he didn't actually it wasn't a situation where he actually like in the show, they said that he cut himself out of every family photo.
Speaker: And the police had absolutely no idea what he looked like. In fact, the police did have a photograph of him. So they knew what you... Yeah, because in the show, he makes it seem like he was able to completely erase all living photos.
Speaker: Yeah, that's what I thought that was good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I guess I guess it was 1970. Still, your photo would be if you have a driver's license and I guess you have the paper driver's license at the time, but there would be a photo of you would have a voter registration, something like that, like he would have been on file, especially like owning an estate in like that.
Speaker: rather pricey, sort of like exclusive, like upper middle class to wealthy area. And, you know, he was also a, he was actually a member of the community. And to my understanding, two other things to takeaways is, one, the town
Speaker: did try to downplay those murders because that was considered to be a very safe place in America. And especially in the state of New Jersey, what county was that? And I think it was... I'm not sure where Westfield is. I think it was Warren County or one of those, but it was in a very nice area and the police did actively try to
Speaker: Sort of downplay on the murders. The other thing was that in the show.
Speaker: the police were actually much more cooperative with the uh in real life you mean in real life they tried the police like when the guy was showing the police these letters they were getting they had said you know like oh wow you know this is something we take extremely seriously and the police went to great lengths
Speaker: to try to find out who the fuck was doing this. They went and they started stocking out mailboxes. They went to postal authorities all over the place. They were trying to find this guy as a credible threat.
Speaker: They've gotten handwriting analysis and private investigators as well. So where where Shooter McGavin, who's the police, who's the police chief in the show, is trying to like blow him off and being like, oh, you know, this is nothing in real life. They took the police in New Jersey, took it very, very seriously. And, you know, they put like actual significant resources into this. And, you know,
Speaker: they just came up short, so that kind of led more of the mystery. Also, I don't believe a private investigator was ever hired by... They did hire a private investigator, but I don't know... The police did, or the owner of the house? The owner, yes. Oh, okay, so that's true. I did not know that. I did not believe that the family hired a private investigator. How much of her character is actually true is probably not at all, but...
Speaker: The yeah the cop wasn't true at all there was no realtor, but the characters that were true, that were at least based off people like throwing the renovations one of the painters and saw two people like in lawn in like lawn chairs across the street. And so like those rich you know Richard kind and.
Speaker: God, what's her face? They were both based on... Yeah, I know who you mean. They're both based on real people. Mia Farrow and her son, you know, the one that was like in the... I guess that was her son. For the record, when you have renovations being done to an old historical house,
Speaker: neighbors outside on lawn chairs like watching the renovations isn't really that suspect. No but it was just like you know they saw them and was and decided to base those characters because they thought interesting or whatever and then like yeah then the two other neighbors Mia Farah they were actually uh real people as well and they were also investigated as um you know suspects and the uh teacher um he actually did write letters
Speaker: like to the house and had kind of and like 2657 or like they say in the show like to other houses.
Speaker: I think it was the other houses as well so it wasn't the other house so it was like to the neighborhoods and he wrote positive things though right or yeah so it wasn't right in weird letters like that but yeah he was a suspect as well so yeah there are some characters that are are true or at least based on uh true people but like
Speaker: Yeah, there was no. There was only one sinister party that they were able to identify. And that's someone that they were actually not able to identify. Yeah. There was no like ball between other neighbors. The police had no reason to suspect that there was a concerted effort by multiple individuals. They believed that it was one lone nut. Yeah. At least from what I read.
Speaker: And the owner did write one of the letters in real life as well. To the actual house itself. I don't know if it was to the house or to the neighbors. I think he wrote it to the neighbors like like in real life. Yeah. With the help of the police. No, he kind of wrote it in frustration. Oh, yeah. So he was starting to become paranoid.
Speaker: like he was starting to really like it was starting to really well obviously it was riling him up because um i believe them selling for a loss that was like one of the big uh story points was that they did lose money on yeah i think they bought it for like 1 .5 and they ended up selling it for like 950 yeah yeah it was well in the movie that was a big thing too because in the
Speaker: i believe they pay like yeah it was way less in the house the real life house isn't nearly as grand as that one either it's yeah i think in real life it was something like between 1 .3 and 1 .5 million in the show it's actually like over three million
Speaker: Um, so yeah, that that's also like, oh, rather we're talking about like double the actual value. So that's a big factor too. But, um, yeah, they ended up like losing significant money to this fucking, you know, crazy letter writer. I mean, I don't know if I would have like.
Speaker: cave like that, but I don't know. Like apparently the real owner was not in as much financial strain as the guy in the show, I don't believe. I don't know. They ended up just buying a house in the same like town, like not far away, like less. And they were renting out that house for a while. Yeah. But they weren't able to flip it for the profit that they wanted. Now they lost $400 ,000.
Speaker: Yeah. So this letter writer fucking cost them like big money for, for, I mean, we don't really know what the guy's motive was. He could have just been a total fucking cook, but I mean, I know we kind of like got like really hung up on like the real story, just in terms of like content in the show. How did you feel about like the
Speaker: No, I thought the acting was great. I thought it was pretty well paced too. And like, it kept me, uh, interesting and, you know, throwing on another episode each time. So I kind of binged it and like, I mean, it took me about a week, if not even.
Speaker: So yeah, I, I watched the whole thing. I think in, well, it was only seven episodes. I believe I watched it in maybe four days. So, you know, it kept me, it kept me enthralled. And, um, you know, I thought Naomi, Naomi Watts, I really have.
Speaker: i can't think of a movie she was in that i did not think she gave a stellar performance uh bobby gave a great performance um i thought all the other supporting cast i thought the acting was top quality
Speaker: Um, yeah, I mean, it had a very suspenseful vibe and there was never, I mean, there was the only like real ridiculous thing because there wasn't any like ghostly stuff going on except for that ridiculous scene where there's the security camera.
Speaker: in the room and that girl appears in there like it like like I don't know if she was supposed to be like some like crazy person that just like wandered in stripped naked and got in bed with him like this young girl or she was supposed to be like a ghostly apparition they never really
Speaker: got that clear with that yeah i did kind of wish they just since they were just basing it they should have just you know gone their own way at that point and just done whatever they wanted to because it seemed like they were but then at the same time they were like dialing it back a bit that was the one thing that bothered me was that whole thing where the girl appeared in bed with him
Speaker: like that i thought that whole thing and the fact that the security guy decided to put a camera in the house and that was just really fucking silly to me and the whole idea that he was interviewing all the previous families like that had lived there
Speaker: and had also been a victim to the Watcher. And they were where they thought the neighbors were a satanic cult. And there were these underground passages. I mean, they just really went off the fucking defense. Yeah. Well, I mean, I kind of enjoyed that. I enjoyed that stuff. But like at the same time, it's like you should have wrapped it up better. Even if you were going to like tell us who it was and keep it a mystery. Yeah.
Speaker: You know, at one point, did they know they were making the second season because I mean, I don't think they. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. So the way this ended, which I think the ending is what drove most people to have issues with this show. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker: I think the ending is what got the people. And it looked to me like that was supposed to be the actual ending. It was just going to be left an open mystery. But now that season two is guaranteed in the works,
Speaker: We can see where it's going to go. Now you have a very good segue to a continuation. Yeah, or at this point, I kind of think I kind of wanted to focus on maybe a different story, a different, different, like a different house. Yeah. Yeah. Well, another five. I don't know.
Speaker: I'll say this about the ending, the way they left it, there are tons of possibilities of where it could go. It could go in a whole bunch of different directions. And just follow a new family that moved in again. So yeah, you never know.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, other than that, there's not too much to say. Do you have any closing words? I know we didn't get too much into exactly what happened in the show, but I mean, I don't think it was that necessary. No, I think it's worth watching, but I thought it was more important to let people know what was true and what wasn't necessarily.
Speaker: Bottom line is check out the watcher is definitely a good watch regardless of what is historically true and not. I highly recommend it. I would not listen to the haters. Yeah. Give it a look. Yeah, definitely. All right. Thanks for joining me. Yep. Always, man. Take care.
Speaker: than ruin in the actual plot, because it is pretty good.
