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The Dark and The Wicked (2020) & My FAVORITE BEER!
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Welcome back to LHOHP! We have Austin from Frightmares back on to discuss this hidden gem from 2020, The Dark and The Wicked. Also, my favorite brewery started canning and I was able to review one of their beers. Hope you enjoy, cheers!
Transcript
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littlehopsofhorrors
thanks drag welcome back to little hops a horse podcast i'm john your host as always thank you again for the continued support we are here balls deep in spooky season uh finally it's our time to shine uh horror fans uh don't make me laugh yet ah Guys, today we're checking out The Dark and The Wicked from 2020, which is one hell of an underrated ah hidden gem. This is a fantastic fucking movie directed by Brian Bertino, who also did The Strangers. ah He did some other shit too, but like most notably like The Strangers series. um This is sitting at a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes, 6.1 out of 10 on IMDb.
00:01:17
littlehopsofhorrors
R scores a 9 out of 10. This is a great fucking movie if you're into a 24 Horror, you'll like a movie like this um I was actually kind of surprised that it's not an 824 movie because it has that that ah kind of like elevated horror atmospheric You know spookiness um that you get with those kind of movies um Beer we're drinking today. So I'm super pumped to to introduce this. This is my favorite brewery in Pittsburgh. This is my favorite brewery um probably fucking anywhere. It's Helicon Brewing. I've talked about these guys before. um I've been going there since fucking like day three of them being in business and I haven't stopped. um So they recently started canning. This is their Hellas Lager. It's my favorite beer in the city of Pittsburgh. It's my favorite beer
00:01:59
littlehopsofhorrors
probably of all time. I can just drink this over and over again. I love it. It's sitting at a criminally low 3.61 on untapped. You fucking losers rate it higher. ah It's a great pair. And it's a 4.9%. So it's just like a nice easy drinking beer. It's good for any time of year. And it's just super cool to drink my favorite breweries beer um at home anytime I want. So ah but also, you know, we got a little something for you guys today. We have Austin from Frightmares joining us to dissect this movie a little bit. What's going on, everybody? How are you doing?
00:02:29
Frightmares Podcast
Aside from me dying laughing saying that you were that we were balls deep in spooky season, I'm doing good. It's a Wednesday night and we're gonna rock and roll on this movie, so I'm stoked.
00:02:42
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, this drops in like literally a few hours. So I know you got some exciting things cooking up over there on Frightmares. If you guys haven't checked out his podcast yet, I mean, you guys are really missing out. He's a significantly better podcast host than I will ever be. But anyway, go check his shit out. But he's got some cool stuff brewing. What do you got coming for us, Austin?
00:02:59
Frightmares Podcast
Well, since this drops tomorrow, ah for you guys listening yesterday, we me and you dropped a Halloween episode on my podcast where we reviewed the Rob Zombie remake that we are diehard fans of.
00:03:12
littlehopsofhorrors
Mm hmm.
00:03:13
Frightmares Podcast
And you can go listen to us rant and rave about that movie over on my podcast.
00:03:14
littlehopsofhorrors
Mm hmm.
00:03:16
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:03:18
Frightmares Podcast
Find it everywhere where you listen to podcasts. This month, we're doing the theme of Slashtober. It is like the fourth year I think we're doing this. So we've got, A lot of good movies lined up.
00:03:29
Frightmares Podcast
we've got We did Halloween. We're doing Scream. We're doing Terrifier 3. We're doing The Final Girls. And we're doing Freaky. So there's a little sneak peek of ah every movie we're doing.
00:03:42
Frightmares Podcast
And ah come check us out, man.
00:03:42
littlehopsofhorrors
Hell yeah.
00:03:44
Frightmares Podcast
It's a good time. I am very excited. And coming in November, we interviewed a very, very special director of a very special movie that I don't want to give away. But you should check that out at the end of November. It is going to be an excellent episode. So.
00:03:59
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, dude, congratulations on all this cool stuff you're pulling. like This is awesome to see. um yeah How you come up with all these like themed months is it always cracks me up. I love your puns. like Don't ever fucking change.
00:04:10
littlehopsofhorrors
This shit is fantastic. like so like what was you What was the one you did in August?
00:04:14
Frightmares Podcast
ah James Wagist. Slow down.
00:04:18
littlehopsofhorrors
What about July? What was July?
00:04:20
Frightmares Podcast
Uh, July was Thai July where we did Thai West movies. And then June was Dario Arjunto. That one was too perfect to not do.
00:04:27
littlehopsofhorrors
Right?
00:04:29
Frightmares Podcast
My least favorite month of the year. So you can go listen to me shit all over Dario Argento movies if you really want to.
00:04:36
littlehopsofhorrors
It's just fun though. you got i mean like its It's hard to pick a movie to like review and like you don't want to do too many of the same genre in a row or whatever it is. so like I like that you keep it fun and kind of shake things up over there.
00:04:44
Frightmares Podcast
Right.
00:04:47
littlehopsofhorrors
um so we We're both big fans of this movie, obviously.
00:04:47
Frightmares Podcast
I try.
00:04:47
Frightmares Podcast
I try.
00:04:50
littlehopsofhorrors
um You want to do your rating now or you want to do it at the end?
00:04:51
Frightmares Podcast
Yes.
00:04:54
Frightmares Podcast
You did yours now or just a minute ago.
00:04:55
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:04:56
Frightmares Podcast
So I'll do mine now. I'm right behind you. Four out of five on my scale. So eight out of 10 on yours. it's It's just a fucking solid movie. I have very little problems with this one. and In fact, it's really just one that we'll get into later.
00:05:09
Frightmares Podcast
But yeah, no, I think it's extremely solid, very underrated. It was even on my top 10 of 2020. I believe I told you is my number eight of the year. Like it's it's fucking solid It is a good atmospheric creepy very a 24 ask movie that I'm surprised is not a 24 or like neon or something like that.
00:05:19
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:05:26
littlehopsofhorrors
right right it definitely has that like artistic feel um but you definitely i mean if you're into like any of these a24s and you have not seen i got some like when evil lurks kind of vibes and in like modern day witch vibes um because you can it's not the same but like there's definitely like parallels i pull from both of those movies um
00:05:36
Frightmares Podcast
Oh Yeah
00:05:47
littlehopsofhorrors
But like you said, you know that with the atmospheric horror, like it's definitely very creepy, um very unsettling. There's not much of a score, um but it's just really like intense, right? and And when those moments, like there's like really terrifying moments like ah you know, appear, ah you're you're really drawn in.
00:06:05
littlehopsofhorrors
um And it just, I don't know, they make the most of it scares the absolute fucking shit out of you. um But yeah, like, there's some great scares here, we're actually going to talk about one. Well, we'll talk about them all. But one of them um is contender for fear of the year for our words episode that you were coming on for at the end of the year.
00:06:19
Frightmares Podcast
o like yeah
00:06:21
littlehopsofhorrors
So um yeah, that's one of my favorite scares probably of any movie ever. And it's in this movie. So I'm excited to talk about that. um What didn't you like about this?
00:06:32
Frightmares Podcast
Uh, the only thing I didn't, the only thing really thing I didn't like is that, uh, I'm a, I'm usually like, I like some sort of explanation. There's legitimately like not what, at least I did. I maybe I missed it, but there's not one like spec of an inclination to what is going on. And it's like.
00:06:49
Frightmares Podcast
it would have been nice to have like a little bit like something I don't need like a whole lore mythos that's about it but something just something you know I assume it's something devilish and demonic but you don't really get any confirmation but I also it's weird I kind of also like that because I feel like any explanation probably would have been good enough but it's kind of something I'm on the fence about I'm like I don't like it but I kind of like it so that's really my only like gripe with the movie
00:06:54
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:06:58
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:14
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, that's that's a good point. I mean, you kind of want some kind of satisfaction of of an explanation, like you said, as to like, well, is this a lore of this area? Is it like a Native American burial ground that they're on and something's haunting them?
00:07:25
Frightmares Podcast
Right.
00:07:26
littlehopsofhorrors
Is it, you know, or or what is it? There's even a part where like, this isn't really much of a spoiler, but some priest stops by and drops off a Bible and everything. And like, one of the main characters is reading the Bible, trying to find out maybe Is this why all this shit's happening?
00:07:38
littlehopsofhorrors
Um, but yeah, they really don't tell you. My only real gripe with the movie is there's a couple scenes that have some really bad CGI. And yeah, there's one scene with the dad and then one scene in that, like, uh, in the trailer where Charlie's living.
00:07:45
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:51
littlehopsofhorrors
And I'm just like, come on, man. Like it looks really fucking bad.
00:07:53
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:07:55
littlehopsofhorrors
The rest of this movie, how good it is. Like you're going to just on the practical effects or figure out a better shot. I don't know. to Instead of taking the cheap way out.
00:08:02
Frightmares Podcast
right?
00:08:02
littlehopsofhorrors
Um,
00:08:03
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:08:04
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, but ultimately it's it's still a solid movie. Those those two little you know gripes that we have like really don't affect the overall experience, I would say. All right, you ready to jump into spoilers here?
00:08:14
Frightmares Podcast
Spoiler time. Let's do it.
00:08:17
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay, let's do spoiler time. We'll see you guys on the other side.
00:08:26
littlehopsofhorrors
That's right. It's spoiler time. So if you guys have not seen this movie um and you don't want it ruined for you, that's your fault. We forgot to give you the warning, but come back after nine minutes or so. um If not, hey, we're going to talk about this fucking movie. So ah essentially the patriarch of a rural ah family is gravely ill, essentially in the home equivalent of hospice care.
00:08:46
littlehopsofhorrors
When his kids show up to help and mom is absolutely not fucking thrilled at all that they're here. She even insisted that they do not come. She tries her best to convince them to leave.
00:08:58
littlehopsofhorrors
um when they get there, ah but you know, it it doesn't take too long before whatever entity like you you pointed to, um whatever this is, it starts coming for them too. um and And it's kind of revealed early on that this family isn't exactly close. ah You can tell that they're ah they've kind of grown apart over the years and they, not that they're there out of guilt, like that they should be there in dad's last days or whatever it is, but you can tell it's not like, mom, you know, just saw you two weeks ago. Like it feels like they had the travel and like this is very like,
00:09:29
littlehopsofhorrors
I don't know, like a labored love kind of thing.
00:09:32
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, I agree with that one.
00:09:35
littlehopsofhorrors
um So, you know, the the movie kind of does take a minute to to kind of get going here, um which is these like kind of weird, awkward interactions, you're trying to figure out, you know, what's going on exactly. But um after the was it the first night or so, um the the the kids go to bed. And by kids, I mean, they're like adults and everything. But if you guys have watched that, you know that if you haven't watched this, that's your fault or ruin it.
00:09:56
littlehopsofhorrors
um but mom feels like chopping carrots in like the middle of the fucking night for whatever reason when this is when the first kind of Sign that something is going on here. This chair just slides up behind her um And she starts chopping a little faster and a little more recklessly
00:10:09
Frightmares Podcast
Oh,
00:10:12
littlehopsofhorrors
And you kind of get the impression that there's definitely something here ah haunting them.
00:10:13
Frightmares Podcast
shit.
00:10:16
littlehopsofhorrors
And um this is when mom, ah you know, she cuts her fucking fingers off. And that was such an unsettling fucking scene, like the intensity that she did it, not just the intent behind it initially.
00:10:29
littlehopsofhorrors
You're like, ah, fuck, she did that on accident. And then she's just like, chopping more. And they just really focus on that scene. And like, I was a chef in another life and I've cut my hands. I don't know how many fucking times, like probably a hundred times.
00:10:42
littlehopsofhorrors
And so like that's a relatable pain of like knowing what a blade feels like going through your finger. um And that was just an uncomfortable watch because like i I feel like I have PTSD in my hands.
00:10:50
Frightmares Podcast
Mm.
00:10:51
littlehopsofhorrors
like Anytime I grab a sharp knife, i'm like like I just feel like all my old ward wounds like popping up on my fucking hand.
00:10:53
Frightmares Podcast
Uh...
00:10:57
littlehopsofhorrors
like Don't do it again. Don't do it again.
00:10:59
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, no, for sure that ah what I what I really like about the opening of the movie is Right off the bat, I knew this was going to be a fucking ripper because the opening shot is of goats.
00:11:12
Frightmares Podcast
And I'm like, okay, whatever. And then the next scene is like the creepy lady singing and you're or singing a creepy song and you're like, don't like that. And then you have the cutting board scene with the chair sliding over.
00:11:22
Frightmares Podcast
And it's just like, this this is going to be, it's going to be a ripper. I know it for a fact. And I was not, uh, not incorrect in that thought.
00:11:26
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:11:29
Frightmares Podcast
So.
00:11:29
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, it has, it sets the tone early. Like you said, it's very, it's very atmospheric. That's when it it starts and it just gets darker and more wicked from there. Um, sorry, that was low hanging fruit.
00:11:41
littlehopsofhorrors
I'm an idiot.
00:11:42
Frightmares Podcast
had to, someone had to, if you didn't, I was gonna, so.
00:11:43
littlehopsofhorrors
its done Yeah. Right. um So I did like the the day um Like the day like thing that he was doing throughout the movie where it was like Tuesday Wednesday Like that was like a nice way to like transition in between like some people might call that lazy I don't think so I i really like that like hard cut, you know Cuz you don't have to like that's a way to fuck up a movie honestly is is over explaining something or whatever um Or just trying to make up for whatever the fuck just happened in the previous scene.
00:12:14
littlehopsofhorrors
All right, um, I
00:12:14
Frightmares Podcast
It's cool though, because like you, you kind of get a sense of, you know, how one, how long they've been there to how long this thing takes to kind of like get inside your head.
00:12:21
littlehopsofhorrors
Mmhmm.
00:12:23
Frightmares Podcast
So yeah, I'm, I'm with you on that.
00:12:23
littlehopsofhorrors
Mmhmm.
00:12:24
Frightmares Podcast
I enjoy like the Sunday, Monday, Tuesday kind of thing he did.
00:12:28
littlehopsofhorrors
um Well, Tuesday's gone with the wind now and the two kids come downstairs that morning and they can't find mama, ah but they see the bloodstain kitchen and and um you know they're a little worried as anyone would be. um But in their search of the farm, they find her hanging from the fucking rafters of the bar. ah At some point in the night, she must have walked out there and hung herself or something helped her do that. um you know They don't really allude to one way or the other, but that's not the last time you see her, which is so fucking terrifying.
00:12:55
littlehopsofhorrors
um she She's so creepy in this movie. um But the kids are now stuck there, essentially, watching over their dad in his final days, weeks, whatever. They're, you know, filling in mom's shoes there. um And they have a hard time coping um with all of this and everything. And the entit entity kind of sees this as like the perfect time to make its first move. um And this is when Louise played by Maureen Ireland. um I hope I didn't fuck that name up.
00:13:18
littlehopsofhorrors
is in the shower. And this is the first CGI scene that I wasn't a huge fan of, but she's in the shower and she hears somebody come in the bathroom.
00:13:22
Frightmares Podcast
yeah
00:13:25
littlehopsofhorrors
ah She assumes it's Michael and then she opens the door and she sees sees dad, you know, just shaking violently. His eyes are in the back of his head. He's pissing all over the floor, you know, and then she freaks out. um And this is where Michael, who's played by Michael Abbott Jr., who famously starred in the death of Dick Long, right?
00:13:41
littlehopsofhorrors
What a fucking name for a movie.
00:13:42
Frightmares Podcast
More like the long, more like the long dick of death, am I right?
00:13:46
littlehopsofhorrors
Right, right? so like it's I don't have my drum.
00:13:48
Frightmares Podcast
Have you seen that movie?
00:13:50
littlehopsofhorrors
Which one?
00:13:51
littlehopsofhorrors
The one I said or the one you said? ah No, but I think I've seen renditions of the movie you said on a different website.
00:13:51
Frightmares Podcast
The Death of Dick Long?
00:13:54
Frightmares Podcast
No, The Death of Dick Long. Have you seen it?
00:14:00
Frightmares Podcast
I'm just saying that movie should have been called The Long Dick of Death. And if you watch it, you'll understand. ah Oh yeah, The Death of Dick Long.
00:14:04
littlehopsofhorrors
and Okay, you have seen this movie?
00:14:08
Frightmares Podcast
and I've watched i watched almost every A24 movie because I'm a fucking fanboy. ah that was so
00:14:13
littlehopsofhorrors
That's an A24 movie? I didn't even know.
00:14:15
Frightmares Podcast
A24, it's a very, very weird movie. Sorry to derail you.
00:14:19
littlehopsofhorrors
that's fine no no no it's i just i really thought that that was just like a one-off like a like not like a lifetime movie but just like a random fucking movie that somebody does and it's just in there like i did this when i first started acting you know
00:14:29
Frightmares Podcast
Repetar.
00:14:32
Frightmares Podcast
No, yeah, yeah that that is an A24 joint all day long.
00:14:35
littlehopsofhorrors
Well, I'm not totally surprised.
00:14:36
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:14:39
littlehopsofhorrors
But anyway, you know Michael comes in to try to check out what the fuck's going on, sees naked sister they're in the and the shower. And then ah that's it. Now there's there's some filler scenes that go on here um for a little bit.
00:14:49
littlehopsofhorrors
Nothing really happens um until the scares start going. And I feel like once they start, they really don't stop. um And the first one that jumps off the page for me is when Michael is trying to go to sleep um and his lights turn on.
00:15:04
littlehopsofhorrors
all by themselves and that's you know you're like maybe it's a one-off with the electricity i don't fucking know maybe i like didn't flick the switch down all the way i don't know so he goes up shuts it off and gets back into a bed gets all tidied up and then they come back on again uh that at that point yeah nope nope nope i'm fucking done uh no fucking thank you uh he gets up you know checks outside to see if anything is out there and of course
00:15:05
Frightmares Podcast
only
00:15:28
littlehopsofhorrors
Mama's there, floating in the fucking yard, just a big creepy smile on her, like, dude, if I so if i saw that, why would you stay?
00:15:31
Frightmares Podcast
Mmm. Mm-mm.
00:15:37
littlehopsofhorrors
that Like another day, I don't understand.
00:15:39
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he does make a great decision later that kind of doesn't work out for him, but he, you know, uh, yeah, I would have been that second would have been out.
00:15:44
littlehopsofhorrors
Nope.
00:15:50
littlehopsofhorrors
Mm-hmm, yeah.
00:15:50
Frightmares Podcast
That would have been my bye moment. See you later. I'm, I'm, I'm good in the past.
00:15:54
littlehopsofhorrors
yeah at at that point dad's already on his way up maybe just a pillow like let's just get this let's just get this moving just throw it over top of him let's just come on man like i just right um yeah so it and you know there was like a cheap jump scare in there uh when she like appears behind him in the room or whatever um and and that one didn't really get me i was kind of like
00:15:59
Frightmares Podcast
I don't think he'll put up much of a struggle. Uh, you know,
00:16:17
littlehopsofhorrors
on that one, but um I don't know why I have a, what what was with Louise waking up with with lipstick all over her face the next morning? did Did you get any context of what the fuck? And there was like lipstick in the bed.
00:16:29
Frightmares Podcast
Hmm. No, I remember that scene, but now that you're saying it, I also don't know why that was a thing. I don't remember anything that led up to that.
00:16:35
littlehopsofhorrors
ah Yeah, there's just a random scene.
00:16:37
Frightmares Podcast
Hmm.
00:16:38
littlehopsofhorrors
She just wakes up and you're like, did you like give yourself a makeover in the middle of the night?
00:16:41
Frightmares Podcast
Ma'am.
00:16:43
littlehopsofhorrors
What is going on here? You fall asleep.
00:16:44
Frightmares Podcast
It was the demons.
00:16:46
littlehopsofhorrors
Right, ah but ah Seriously um So they they they call the priest like the local priest I guess who had been stopping by the house to check on the family and they accuse him ah which was I thought would you know an interesting take of Filling their mom's head with the thoughts of suicide.
00:16:47
Frightmares Podcast
terrible at makeup, you should get another job. but
00:17:05
Frightmares Podcast
Mm hmm.
00:17:05
littlehopsofhorrors
um They like reading through the the Excuse me um like the Bible or whatever that he dropped off and everything now was that There's a scene later in the movie.
00:17:17
littlehopsofhorrors
Is that the same place that Louise calls?
00:17:20
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Who's like, I don't know. I don't, I'm not even in tech. I've never been to Texas. I'm in blue Louisiana or wherever.
00:17:26
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep. Yep.
00:17:28
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Same priest. So he wasn't even there. That was all some, yeah.
00:17:31
littlehopsofhorrors
This entity thing.
00:17:33
Frightmares Podcast
some the got the the The demonic entity was using him as like, you know, to disguise. as I don't know. Yeah. It's like, Oh, so he wasn't even ever there at any point. tight.
00:17:42
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:17:42
Frightmares Podcast
Loved that. That was such a feeling of dread and just like existential crisis when he said he'd never been there. I just, the my stomach just dropped. I was like, Oh, that's a, that's like a great scare.
00:17:51
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep. Not even the first time. Yeah.
00:17:53
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:17:53
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:17:53
Frightmares Podcast
Not even the first time.
00:17:53
littlehopsofhorrors
Not even the first. Yeah.
00:17:55
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:17:55
littlehopsofhorrors
Um, but to your, to your point, they were talking, um, you were mentioning like the barn early on with the goats and the bottle thing, which I don't know what the bottle thing was about.
00:17:56
Frightmares Podcast
Great. Great.
00:18:03
Frightmares Podcast
Hmm.
00:18:04
littlehopsofhorrors
They didn't really explain it, but just the fact that it's there to warn you against something. Um, you hear like the wolves howling constantly out in the distance and everything like that, but just the fact that it's there.
00:18:14
Frightmares Podcast
I think it's actually for, I think it's for the wolves. If the wolves go underneath it and hit that, then they'll know, Hey, wolves are on the property. I think it's for the wolves and notifying them.
00:18:25
littlehopsofhorrors
You think it's got like a dual meeting there?
00:18:27
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's there to notify if any wolves are there to, you know, to go out there and protect their goats. I think that's the, that's the least thing I got.
00:18:33
littlehopsofhorrors
Right. This is a different, this is a different kind of wolf.
00:18:35
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, yeah exactly.
00:18:38
littlehopsofhorrors
There's you wolf you're fighting against. Gotcha.
00:18:40
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:18:41
littlehopsofhorrors
Okay. Um, and and I don't know why Louise was out there. Oh boy. Come on. I just, what, what is going on here? Did I lose you?
00:18:48
Frightmares Podcast
Uh-oh.
00:18:49
littlehopsofhorrors
I really lost. Are you still there?
00:18:50
Frightmares Podcast
I lost you.
00:18:50
littlehopsofhorrors
Are we still here? Do I still have you? I'm going to pause here for a second.
00:18:54
Frightmares Podcast
Okay. Yeah. I lost you for like 10 seconds.
00:18:54
littlehopsofhorrors
You motherfucker. You motherfucker.
00:19:04
littlehopsofhorrors
Really?
00:19:06
Frightmares Podcast
What did it do? Oh, no.
00:19:09
littlehopsofhorrors
Fuck my internet. Seriously, fuck you Elon Musk, you little dickhead. You always fucking talk about how great Starlink is and all this shit. It ain't no better than any other fucking internet we've had out here and it's twice the price. Get your shit together, you fucking douchebag. Richest man on earth, you fucking prick. All right, anyway, here's my rant over.
00:19:25
littlehopsofhorrors
um
00:19:26
Frightmares Podcast
Are you giving to a man fuck that guy?
00:19:26
littlehopsofhorrors
and cost Costing me my fame, my podcasting fame here. Fucking dick. um All right. So anyway, ah back to the barn thing. While Louise is out there, I don't know why she was. I don't know if she should check in on the fucking barnyard animals or whatever. um And she gets kind of creeped out. and You see that big ass shadow kind of creep out behind her, right? um Super fucking creepy. But um this is where Michael, you know, shortly after reveals that he had that encounter with their mom, like the night before and everything. And they're just like,
00:19:57
littlehopsofhorrors
Eh, whatever, we'll just go to bed, no big deal. Um, and this is where the priest comes back, and this scene was fucking creepy. Like, come outside! You should come out!
00:20:06
Frightmares Podcast
Come outside.
00:20:07
littlehopsofhorrors
Ugh, dude!
00:20:07
Frightmares Podcast
How about no?
00:20:08
littlehopsofhorrors
No, no, no!
00:20:10
Frightmares Podcast
How about no?
00:20:11
littlehopsofhorrors
like Bro, it's three o'clock in the morning! You should just come outside! and Then the phone starts ringing, and...
00:20:15
Frightmares Podcast
ah it's Like you can't come out here. It's so late. What are you doing?
00:20:20
littlehopsofhorrors
right, but I loved this twist with with the phone, um because the entity is fucking with them so much. So you think that that phone, it's just another way for them to get into their head when it's Charlie calling them in real time trying to warn them that something is happening.
00:20:37
littlehopsofhorrors
And they need to be aware of that. um And they unplug it, which, you know, kind of takes away that last line of defense against like people that know them, I guess, is they still have cell phone stuff.
00:20:45
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:20:46
littlehopsofhorrors
But anyway, um Yeah, that was super cool. But um unfortunately, this is pretty much the last GC of Charlie, the entity found him. um And this was another one of those weird CGI scenes where she's like glitching, essentially, and just like cutting herself and then ends up killing him. and And that's it. But like, kids, practical effects always win, right? They're always just going to be great. Doesn't matter how good the fucking CGI is. It still looks like CGI. And 20 years from now, it's going to look even worse. So um just effects are always fun um But that, you know, like I said, so Charlie checked out early, he's done.
00:21:19
littlehopsofhorrors
And this is where we're talking about the next day, Louise calls the priest like, why the fuck are we you at our house? And he's like, who the hell are you? I was never there, all this other stuff. And they're like, now it's time to get out, right? Let's get dad to some kind of hospital, you know, let's just like, transfer him somewhere.
00:21:33
littlehopsofhorrors
And ah the doctors are like, No, he'll probably die the second we, you know, put him in the ambulance or whatever, get to the road. And I mean, if I'm them and I've seen all this shit already, I'm like, is that such a bad thing right now?
00:21:47
littlehopsofhorrors
Like just trying not to you guys.
00:21:48
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:21:50
littlehopsofhorrors
Why don't you stay here for the night and we'll go back to the hospital. You know, you guys can fucking deal with this shit.
00:21:55
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, I'd rather be anywhere but that house, so.
00:21:59
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, it's so fucking oh creepy as shit, but it only it gets worse. um At some point, the goats escaped. escaped Can I talk tonight? um The goats escaped. I don't remember that part or when that was like a thing. Do you remember that?
00:22:14
littlehopsofhorrors
ah
00:22:15
Frightmares Podcast
Um, I believe when they go to get mom down that she's, when she's hanging, I know all the goats run out from that barn area.
00:22:26
Frightmares Podcast
So it might've been at that point, or it's just, they got let out into the field and it wasn't shown on camera, but I'm pretty sure it's when they go get mom, uh, down when she's hanging.
00:22:27
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:22:36
Frightmares Podcast
Cause I know they all leave the barn. So maybe it was then, but yeah, they're all out there.
00:22:38
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:22:41
littlehopsofhorrors
They're all out there and now they're all fucking slaughtered. Well, most of them anyways. There's the one that comes back with like three legs and shit. And they're all just scattered about.
00:22:47
Frightmares Podcast
That was creepy.
00:22:49
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, definitely creepy. um But again, just pass CGI. Like, just kill a bunch of goats. What's the problem? here I don't understand.
00:22:55
Frightmares Podcast
i don't i don't seem to ah What's the problem there?
00:22:56
littlehopsofhorrors
No, I'm just kidding. it Right.
00:22:58
Frightmares Podcast
Come on. You don't got a bunch of dead goats lying around?
00:23:01
littlehopsofhorrors
ah Somebody, yeah.
00:23:02
Frightmares Podcast
Geez.
00:23:02
littlehopsofhorrors
god yeah go back to talk to what's his face from what was that poltergeist he had real skeletons that's the hero we need in the movie like this we made real dead goat skeletons um um
00:23:11
Frightmares Podcast
Oh, fuck. It's got to be a big market for those somewhere. Come on.
00:23:17
littlehopsofhorrors
from at least in horror movies anyway, I don't know.
00:23:21
Frightmares Podcast
yeah come on
00:23:23
littlehopsofhorrors
um but Where the fuck? ah but but bu but but I lost my place in my notes. This is where I see, because I didn't fucking highlight. I just skipped ahead. um Goes to check on the animals in the barn.
00:23:36
littlehopsofhorrors
ah Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the part. Oh, this was so fucking creepy. He goes to check on the animals in the barn after they get all the fucking goats back and everything. And he has this really unsettling um moment with mom again, right?
00:23:46
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, come on. Yeah, again.
00:23:50
littlehopsofhorrors
Like she's like walking into the barn towards him and he's like, stay away. And she just calls his bluff and gets right in his fucking face and he just cowers and she's naked.
00:23:58
Frightmares Podcast
Oh, and she's naked too, so there's that.
00:24:01
littlehopsofhorrors
Like, I don't know. Like just seeing your dead naked mother, like walking towards you moment, like what, two days after you just pulled her down off of a fucking noose, like Jesus Christ.
00:24:09
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:24:12
Frightmares Podcast
Now.
00:24:14
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:24:14
littlehopsofhorrors
But he.
00:24:16
Frightmares Podcast
It's really surprising that this isn't an A24 movie because there's a naked old person. A24 loves doing that shit.
00:24:23
littlehopsofhorrors
Fucking love it, yeah. Looking at you Stanley Kubrick for starting this with the fucking shining, having a naked old lady in the bathtub.
00:24:28
Frightmares Podcast
Right. He started all this.
00:24:30
littlehopsofhorrors
yeah my
00:24:32
Frightmares Podcast
God damn it.
00:24:32
littlehopsofhorrors
dickhead. Yeah. ah But he is luckily escapes unscathed for now. um But that's one of this. This is the scene I was talking about earlier coming up.
00:24:43
littlehopsofhorrors
um That's one of my favorite horror scenes of all time.
00:24:44
Frightmares Podcast
Hmm. Hmm.
00:24:46
littlehopsofhorrors
Being in bed, right? You're safe space and you feel something crawl into bed with you. And it sounds like some sort of beast, right? It's snarling. It's got this heavy breathing, this presence.
00:24:58
littlehopsofhorrors
Like that is so fucking terrifying. And Louise is just like, hoping that this is a dream that it's gonna go away that whatever it is right and it's so aggressive like whatever this is it's not just like it can't be misconstrued for anything else other than it's it's some kind of beast right you don't see I'm talking about
00:25:17
Frightmares Podcast
a Oh, yeah, that seems I don't even know what it was, but it looked like a doppelganger of the dad leaning over himself, like breathing into his mouth. I don't know what was going on. This shit was fucking terrifying.
00:25:31
littlehopsofhorrors
Right, right, it was so scary. And and like they they don't show too much, right? So it kind of lets your imagination kind of fill in the gap there, which I think is you know you know brilliant. um But Louise does everything she can to withstand it before finally like fleeing herself up to bed only to realize dad isn't there anymore.
00:25:47
littlehopsofhorrors
He's just hanging out on the fucking ceiling staring at her. um right just as like And then she wakes up.
00:25:53
Frightmares Podcast
um now
00:25:56
littlehopsofhorrors
ah But we're on a Sunday now, right? We're getting towards the end of the movie.
00:25:58
Frightmares Podcast
ah
00:25:59
littlehopsofhorrors
um Things obviously seem to be getting worse around the house. um And, and I love, I love this point of the movie where you kind of have to be skeptical about everything you see. Like even the interaction with that sweet little girl is sinister when she stops by to say that Charlie's dead.
00:26:14
littlehopsofhorrors
And I got a little like smile vibe here, right?
00:26:15
Frightmares Podcast
Oh
00:26:17
littlehopsofhorrors
Where she was like confining and talking to this girl and she's like, I can smell him.
00:26:18
Frightmares Podcast
no!
00:26:21
littlehopsofhorrors
He's here. And you're like, I thought you were on my side.
00:26:23
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, he's rounding like, Oh yeah.
00:26:24
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. like I thought you were. Fuck. I'm all alone.
00:26:29
Frightmares Podcast
You're like, Oh, I have forgotten. I have forgotten everything outside. I'll be right back. Uh, like no fucking thank you.
00:26:35
littlehopsofhorrors
uh-huh yep yep but Louise decides to call Michael and say hey uh you know where you at he's like oh I left oh wait what didn't say anything I just fucking left and like what ah like I don't blame but like
00:26:37
Frightmares Podcast
I am going to pass on that all day.
00:26:53
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah, that was... I don't blame them either, but that was such a dick move.
00:26:57
littlehopsofhorrors
it's like yeah I'm four states away already I left the middle of the night I didn't want to wake you up like I'm getting terrorized in bed you dick you didn't even fucking wake me up ah but yeah so Louise is upset and and she realized now she's all alone with dad um and the nurse stops by at some point and she's like kind of religious you don't really
00:27:06
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:17
littlehopsofhorrors
I can't remember too much about that part, but she like lights the candle and then she ends up turning anyway and like stabbing herself with this fucking neat knitting needle things and all that other stuff. And, you know, that's what kind of pulls Luis away from that whole scene. um And then she knocks Luis out and that's it. So now we go to this this scene, which I thought was fucking brilliant. And and this is the last one. Again, half hour, this movie, all these awesome, cool scares happen. um Michael arrives at home to see it's a very heavy scene.
00:27:46
littlehopsofhorrors
see like rounding that corner the camera workers was beautiful and also like so haunting just seeing like these two dead kids like just just dead you know like on the fucking kitchen table kitchenette whatever the fuck it is and you know moms there with a knife in her hand she's also dead on you know in the kitchen you're just like god damn it and he breaks down and you know ends up killing himself, slits his own fucking throat in the kitchen. Um, then he looks back up and they're not there. They're walking through the garage door and they see dad. It just slid his own fucking throat. And of course that's going to be our kind of pains me to do that because that was a rough fucking scene.
00:28:30
Frightmares Podcast
But at the same time, let me just, let me just say the fact that A, he left, which was something that doesn't usually happen in horror movies. So that's the first thing I like about this too.
00:28:41
littlehopsofhorrors
Mm hmm.
00:28:43
Frightmares Podcast
He gets home, sees his, you know, quote unquote sees his family dead and is so distraught by that, that he kills himself. All right, that's something that ever happened. And then on another layer to that is, oh, that was still whatever was going on at the house, fucking with him.
00:29:00
Frightmares Podcast
That never happened. You know what I mean? Usually the, the spookiness or whatever you want.
00:29:02
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:29:04
Frightmares Podcast
to The demonic possession is usually like linked to the house or something, but it was affecting him hundreds of miles away.
00:29:05
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:29:10
Frightmares Podcast
Like that is, that was a chef's kiss, brilliant, completely different, like horror moment that I'd ever seen. And I was like, I love that so much.
00:29:19
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, I honestly couldn't agree more because I love that you you thought that there was some hope there that he, you know, he got away, you know, he was the the smart one to leave.
00:29:24
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:29:27
littlehopsofhorrors
Cause like you said, that never happens in horror movies. But then for him to take that extra step and like, you know, my family's gone. I'm just going to join them. And then for you to look back up and curve ball, they're actually not even there.
00:29:37
littlehopsofhorrors
You just did it all by yourself.
00:29:38
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:29:39
littlehopsofhorrors
Idiot. You're like, Oh fuck. And then they walk in and see him. You're like, Oh fuck.
00:29:43
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. That's the whole scene. It just like keeps compounding on itself.
00:29:44
littlehopsofhorrors
ah
00:29:46
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:29:46
Frightmares Podcast
And you're like, and it's not even like his family had been dead for days.
00:29:50
Frightmares Podcast
They're like freshly bleeding. Like it had just happened.
00:29:54
littlehopsofhorrors
Yep.
00:29:54
Frightmares Podcast
So that whole entire scene just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. And you're like, i I can't, you can't do anything beyond this. I can't take anymore. Okay. You have to stop.
00:30:01
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah.
00:30:02
Frightmares Podcast
Please.
00:30:02
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah. Yeah. And it's a matter of seconds. Like I feel like that whole thing transpired in a matter of like, like maybe less than a minute. So it's like processing all this and you're like, Oh, fuck.
00:30:09
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. Easy.
00:30:12
littlehopsofhorrors
Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck.
00:30:13
littlehopsofhorrors
like
00:30:13
Frightmares Podcast
yeah My brain can't work this quickly.
00:30:16
Frightmares Podcast
you I cannot process trauma that fast. Come on.
00:30:34
littlehopsofhorrors
She's it, and this thing eventually takes her. um you don't you you just kind I'm guessing it was dad that just kind of lunges over at that last jump scene, which is great. um But I like it. I mean, there's no no happy ending here.
00:30:45
littlehopsofhorrors
Everybody gets taken out. Like you said, it's it's just, yeah, man, it's just, you know they don't explain exactly what happened, how it came to be.
00:30:49
Frightmares Podcast
so
00:30:52
Frightmares Podcast
oh
00:30:56
littlehopsofhorrors
um There's no escaping it, though, once it gets ahold of you, which is very terrifying. Um, but yeah, this is a great fucking watch and why, you know, people don't talk about it a lot. Um, for whatever reason, this feels like one that's still even with all the, you know, horror pages and recommendations and all this shit still slips under the radar.
00:31:19
Frightmares Podcast
I do have, like ah and i've been as we've been talking, I've been kind of like configuring this theory. I wonder if, and of course it's all up to speculation because they don't explain anything. I'm thinking that maybe the wife, the you know the older the older lady, the wife and husband, I'm thinking that you know the wife was so distraught by her husband's condition about him getting worse and worse and worse that she reached out to the other side in hopes of of having a miracle, but got in contact with like a demonic spirit that took everything from her instead.
00:31:48
littlehopsofhorrors
and Yeah.
00:31:50
Frightmares Podcast
That's kind of what that's where my head goes, thinking about it now. like It's gotta be something like that. you know like Or making a deal with the devil to help him, but then the devil's like, fuck you, I'm just gonna take everybody.
00:32:01
Frightmares Podcast
like So maybe it's something like that, like you know like but it's all open to speculation. so
00:32:06
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, I never honestly considered that. You just assumed that it was there. And um i kind of like and this is why I said I got like, When Evil Lurks vibes, because he it kind of like coincided with the sickness, like an illness.
00:32:18
littlehopsofhorrors
and And that was the way that they had their possession um in that movie. And this actually came out before When Evil Lurks. Now, that was like probably the better movie. It was definitely a more graphic movie.
00:32:28
littlehopsofhorrors
um So maybe it's just like, you know whatever you like that day.
00:32:29
Frightmares Podcast
um
00:32:32
littlehopsofhorrors
ah But there were a lot of parallels to this, I thought. um I kind of put these these two in like the same realm.
00:32:35
Frightmares Podcast
Agreed.
00:32:38
littlehopsofhorrors
um If you're into this kind of if you're like one, you're probably like the other. um But yeah, no, this was this was this was cool.
00:32:42
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:32:45
littlehopsofhorrors
And definitely an original take on a possession movie. I'm assuming this is the possession movie. I think it is. um Again, they never really explained like you said.
00:32:51
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah. I definitely would consider it some sort of possession, at least not necessarily on everyone, because I really think it only possessed like the, you know, the mother and father didn't really possess the kids, but it definitely fucked with their heads a lot.
00:33:07
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, for sure, for sure. um Cool. Well, dude, thank you again for for jumping on here. Always appreciate you having some time to set aside for us to to hang out and bullshit about horror movies.
00:33:17
littlehopsofhorrors
You are coming back for a Terrifier 3, hopefully?
00:33:21
Frightmares Podcast
Oh yeah, I'll be here, baby.
00:33:21
littlehopsofhorrors
Yes. Okay. Okay, cool. Yeah, we you have tickets like the day before I do, so don't fucking spoil anything. Just tell me if it's worth it or not.
00:33:28
Frightmares Podcast
hell no it'll just be it'll be a thumbs up or a thumbs down and that's what that's all i'll send you or maybe two thumbs up yeah i don't want to over-hype it though you know
00:33:28
littlehopsofhorrors
thats
00:33:35
littlehopsofhorrors
Yeah, or something along those lines because if you really like something that's that's what I get. Cool. All right. so ah Tell people where they can find you tell people what you got coming up so they have something else to look forward to and then we'll get out of here.
00:33:51
Frightmares Podcast
Uh, yeah, you can follow me on Facebook, Instagram, Tik TOK and slasher app at Freight Mars podcast. Uh, you can follow me personally on letterbox at dr Proctor, see what I'm watching, see what I'm rating it. And like I said before, it is slash tober. We just did our Halloween episode, uh, me and John, that was released yesterday. And next week we are tackling me and my wife, Gabby are tackling scream from 1996. So.
00:34:16
Frightmares Podcast
Come on over, ah give us a listen, give us a rating, give us a review, whatever you'd like to do. Uh, every new episodes every Wednesday. So yeah.
00:34:25
littlehopsofhorrors
Look at that, two horror podcasts in two days. So you he get his on Wednesday and you get mine on Thursday.
00:34:30
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:34:30
littlehopsofhorrors
Cool beans. Well, yeah next yeah, next week, guys, we have Haunt, right? So right right in the middle of old haunted house season, hopefully. This was a fun haunted house movie. We actually do touch base on the McKamey Manor documentary.
00:34:44
littlehopsofhorrors
Also, if you haven't seen it, it's on Hulu. I think it's called The Monster Within or Monster or something or other. um But basically it's this guy who tortures people um and gets away with it because they just sign his bullshit waiver. And that's it. And he offers him $20,000 or something like that if they can make it through. ah But he's a real sick son of a bitch. so ah but And then we you know we talk about Haunt, which is a pretty solid movie. After that, we're doing Terrifier 3. And then I'm not sure what we're doing after that, but I know we're ending the month with Sinister from 2012. There we go.
00:35:15
littlehopsofhorrors
ah Solid fucking movie. So ah go go check out Austin. He does great stuff. Go like subscribe rate all that other bullshit If you can do the same for me, I'm still waiting on my fear free beer sponsorship dudes and do that But until next week will Give you my free fucking beer.
00:35:15
Frightmares Podcast
Yeah.
00:35:28
Frightmares Podcast
Get this man his free beer. Come on.
00:35:31
littlehopsofhorrors
Fuck you Elon Musk. We'll see you guys next week. Cheers