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Rose Plate Special: Golden Bachelorette Joan - Week 6
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We're already at hometowns! We get not one, but TWO , Chicago dates, a Lake Tahoe outing, and a Wichita ranch. Could a Golden Bachelorette ask for anything more? We spend a lot of time dunking on Chicago in this one, sorry in advance.
Also, go say nice things to @iced__tay on TikTok and check out Sammi's TikTok @SammiDitto for movie deep dives
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:17
Sammi
Hello, I'm Sammy.
00:00:18
Steve
Oh, hello. And I'm Steve.
00:00:23
Sammi
And you're listening to Rose Plate Special. The most dramatic, is it really in Chicago-ing-ist, wish to Lake Tahoe-ing-ist, happy as a larking-ist recap podcast of the Golden Bachelorette ever?
00:00:39
Steve
Ever.
00:00:40
Sammi
And ah you found us here, so obviously you know one place to find us, but you can also find us at popculturediner.com. um If you're confused, just look for Pop Culture Diner. Rosebilly Special is is up special within the diner.
00:00:54
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:00:55
Sammi
You get it? Makes sense?
00:00:55
Steve
It's like a like a menu in a restaurant see Yeah, it's called branding we're doing it
00:00:58
Sammi
Yeah, there are other menu options. This is just the largest one.
00:01:05
Sammi
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there you go. You can find us at Pop Culture Diner and TikTok and Instagram and all that good stuff.
Character Analysis: Chuck's Perception
00:01:13
Sammi
um Oh, and I just remembered I was going to watch a TikTok video from Chalk's daughter, and I totally forgot to watch it because apparently Chalk's getting a bunch of hate.
00:01:23
Sammi
um So I don't know. It's like I don't really get it. Like I don't really get the hate, but we can talk about that.
00:01:28
Steve
I don't know. I've, I've, I've struggled with Chuck cause I think he's really in it. Like he's committed and he's like genuinely in love with her.
00:01:34
Sammi
He's
00:01:38
Steve
Uh, I, my problems are, well, I have a few problems with Chuck problem. Number one, I can't take him seriously because his name is Chuck and that's hard for me.
00:01:49
Steve
Problem number two, well like let's Let's take ourselves out of the fact that we are watching a television show or even within the context of the television show.
00:02:00
Sammi
her
00:02:00
Steve
Let's look at how he chose to introduce his girlfriend to his family and close friends. What if the first time you met your future husband's family was when he invited you home and then said, surprise, it's my mom's funeral.
00:02:13
Sammi
huh
00:02:18
Sammi
I mean, it was to be fair. OK, what's weirder? A funeral for a dead bird you've never met.
00:02:27
Steve
Yeah.
00:02:28
Sammi
OK, like a dead like or a celebration of life where they're planting a tree like it's not like the full out funeral.
00:02:29
Steve
Also weird.
00:02:37
Sammi
It's a celebration of life. It's different, I think.
00:02:40
Steve
i I don't know.
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Sammi
But now I want to know what
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Steve
i I personally would not want to lead with my mom died.
00:02:46
Sammi
his daughter said. But i had it I had it saved. And I was like, I'll watch this right after the episode. And then I was like, oh, we got to record. We got to do this and that. And then I like completely forgot.
Personal Anecdotes and Technical Difficulties
00:02:55
Steve
Well, now she's going to say that guy, Steve from pop culture diner, bros played special as an asshole.
00:02:55
Sammi
um
00:03:00
Sammi
is such an a-hole. No, I don't really get the, I don't think that, I mean, obviously, Joan is really important to talk to the point that he forewent, you know, being home.
00:03:00
Steve
So yeah.
00:03:14
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:03:14
Sammi
um But I am so sorry, I can't report on that. um But I will try to remember to link it. And then you can watch it for yourself and then we'll we'll be surprised together. But we're not there yet.
00:03:26
Sammi
OK. Oh, first of all, new nails, new nail alert. Hold on.
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Steve
wowa
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Sammi
I don't know if I can show you.
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Steve
Whoa.
00:03:32
Sammi
I'm bad at this. I'm so bad at this. Also, my camera is going out still, but there's like little stitches for Lisa Frankenstein.
00:03:37
Steve
Oh, and is that it is that a classic red there? We love it.
00:03:40
Sammi
Yeah.
00:03:41
Steve
We love it.
00:03:41
Sammi
Yeah. I love it, too. I'm so excited. um Yeah, because I'm going as Lisa Frankenstein.
00:03:47
Steve
Oh, well, as you can see from my nails, I'm going as guy who doesn't really take care of himself that well.
00:03:48
Sammi
So I had to dress apart.
00:03:53
Sammi
Well, you know, listen, self-care is important. um But yeah, anyway, sorry if my camera ah cuts out. I don't know. I literally restarted my computer and I have like all of the parts for my new computer, like ready to go, ready to buy on October 29th.
00:04:08
Steve
he
00:04:12
Steve
Well, last week the the Gremlins were in my computer, and now they're in your computer, so it's fine.
00:04:13
Sammi
That's the day I'm buying it. Yeah.
00:04:17
Steve
We just can't have a week where we're both on.
00:04:17
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:19
Steve
That's how it works.
00:04:19
Sammi
It's just gremlin. I was just really happy because yesterday, because I had had a calamitous. I won't go into detail, but I had a calamitous webinar like a week ago and I had one yesterday that went off without a hitch.
00:04:32
Sammi
So, you know, like, I don't know what's going on. I like literally have Googled is mercury and retrograde like five times. And I know it's not until like November, but I'm like, it has to be something. But there is all those like solar, solar events that
Travel Destinations and Guarded Hearts
00:04:46
Sammi
were happening, right?
00:04:46
Sammi
Like. um that caused aurora borealis, that caused extra northern lights.
00:04:57
Steve
Siri, what's the plural of Borealis?
00:05:01
Sammi
Well, AP style would say borealis is probably, ah you know, like syllabuses and octopuses.
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Steve
Probably.
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Sammi
um
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Steve
I don't get that. So you got you because you got your octopus octopi, you got your cactus, you get cacti. What's what? do What if you got more than one fetus?
00:05:17
Steve
Should be feet tie.
00:05:19
Sammi
Well, you know, well, you taught AP style, right?
00:05:22
Steve
Yeah. Oh yeah.
00:05:22
Sammi
Didn't you teach AP style? Yeah. Okay. Anyway, AP style makes no sense.
00:05:24
Steve
Oh, English is bullshit. Nothing makes any sense.
00:05:28
Sammi
so Which is why we had to test on it and and students didn' get really confused. Anyway, that's a peek behind the curtain into our former lives. um But let's talk about OK, so we start ah with Guy in Lake Tahoe and I was like, oh, OK, so he's rich, rich.
00:05:43
Sammi
Got it.
00:05:44
Steve
Oh yeah. He's loaded.
00:05:44
Sammi
Yeah, didn't know. Yeah, I was like, I mean, just looking at him, I was like, he's got money. And then she was like, I'm in Lake Tahoe. And I'm like, oh, OK. I don't think anyone broke lives in Lake Tahoe.
00:05:55
Steve
No, no, that's nobody could afford that except for, I mean, look at his jawline.
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Sammi
Yeah. No. Yeah.
00:06:01
Steve
Of course he's got Lake Tahoe money.
00:06:03
Sammi
Yeah, he's got Lake Tahoe money. So anyway, so so they go there and they're going to go boating and make a wish in the lake because apparently that lake is magic. Maybe that's why everybody there is rich.
00:06:15
Sammi
Maybe they all wish in the lake. Maybe we just need to go there and wish in the lake and then we'll be rich. It's amazing.
00:06:20
Steve
That's probably the move.
00:06:20
Sammi
I didn't even think about that. Yeah, that's probably the move. um So anyway, ah Guy feels sorry, and I'm looking at my phone because I'm trying not to add any more string to my computer, so I'm not ignoring you or texting friends, everyone.
00:06:31
Steve
Wow.
00:06:32
Sammi
You are my treasured audience, but this is going to be a little pared down today. um But yeah, so they go um they go boating. Guy's talking about guarding his heart.
00:06:43
Sammi
We've got a couple we've got a couple of guarded men on on this on this ah season.
00:06:45
Steve
Good little little heart guarding.
00:06:49
Sammi
Yeah, you know, and it's not them saying I will guard and protect your heart. It's them saying I'm guarding my own heart. um But the but.
00:06:57
Steve
You gotta have that reckless love guy.
00:07:00
Sammi
Oh, yeah, that's another one. Jeez, Louise
Special Episode Considerations and Hometown Dynamics
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Sammi
is men.
00:07:02
Steve
ah Oh, they're the worst.
00:07:02
Sammi
um Also, do you want to do do you want to do like a special episode on the new season of Love is Blind, just like a one off?
00:07:11
Steve
Sure, yeah.
00:07:12
Sammi
Are you watching it?
00:07:13
Steve
Um, I am not watching it with any frequency. It's one of those things that's on like ambiently for me.
00:07:18
Sammi
Yeah.
00:07:20
Steve
And I just like, like I'm folding laundry and it's just there and I'm absorbing it.
00:07:24
Sammi
Yeah.
00:07:25
Steve
But I can, I can give it a critical watch for the sake of the podcast.
00:07:27
Sammi
Well, I mean, just when you get to the last, I mean, I'm on one of the last episodes and I'm just like, these men are anyway. So um anyway, answer I just made me think of that with the trash men.
00:07:39
Sammi
I think we should probably ah do a one off for that. I think it would be fun. um So John or Joan wants love. But, you know, she's having a hard time letting go of John. But, you know, she thinks her life would be better with someone else in it.
00:07:52
Sammi
And guys like you take all the time you need. It's fine. It's fine. I get it. And ah we see Guy's family. Lots of G names, lots of G names in this family.
00:08:03
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah, we love Kim man he wrote her a song yeah
00:08:04
Sammi
um And OK, so when Joan meets Guy's family, at least in this edit, she talks about Charles, but that she doesn't talk about Kim. And I'm really sad about the Kim ratio.
00:08:16
Sammi
Yeah, the Charles thing was sweet, though. He had like guy did have like two winning moments on, you know, this season where, you know, he put Charles's mind at ease, like after feeling tormented for so long. And then, you know, but also saying, Kim, I will sing your song with you.
00:08:35
Sammi
Everybody else is a jerk. OK, and I'm here for you, which was really cute. um So, yeah, so I don't know. I don't have a ton of notes for this. Like the date goes well.
00:08:46
Sammi
The family really likes him.
00:08:48
Steve
Yeah.
00:08:48
Sammi
One of his sisters said happy as a lark, which I don't feel like I've heard in a long time.
00:08:54
Steve
No, that's real old timey.
00:08:55
Sammi
I'm like, people still say that you're happy as a lark.
00:08:58
Steve
Yeah. I mean, this is, this is your standard hometown thing where it's like, we, we have learned nothing new about these individuals.
00:08:59
Sammi
Yeah.
00:09:04
Steve
It it just kind of like is what it is.
00:09:04
Sammi
Yeah.
00:09:07
Steve
Um, the only thing I know is like guy is definitely wealthier than I thought he was.
00:09:11
Sammi
Yeah, for sure.
00:09:12
Steve
And, uh, and again, I guess I'm for the record, I'm not dating chalk, but if I was, I would not want to go to his tree burial for our for first meet the parents date.
00:09:26
Steve
Uh-uh.
00:09:26
Sammi
OK, yeah, well, OK, the only thing, well, and we'll get there. But i I did say to talk, I was like, can you imagine going to Lake Tahoe and then like kind of not Chicago and then Chicago and then Wichita, Kansas?
00:09:43
Sammi
What a letdown.
00:09:43
Steve
No, what a letdown. Yeah, I've been to Wichita.
00:09:45
Sammi
No offense to Wichita, no offense to Wichita. But I mean, yeah, I'm just saying I would start in Wichita.
00:09:48
Steve
Yeah, not my speed.
00:09:54
Steve
who Yeah,
00:09:55
Sammi
and then escalate and end in Lake Tahoe. That's
Culinary Debates and Regional Biases
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Steve
it is nice.
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Sammi
what I would do.
00:09:59
Steve
ah I don't know. Is it nice or is it not so nice that she got a twofer in Chicago? Like I would like to travel. Like I want people from exotic locations.
00:10:08
Sammi
Yeah, well, you know, what's funny is, OK, so. Do I have anything to wrap up the guy thing? I and then we'll move on to that. The only thing I also have to say is like this season, the going all in looks very different from like The Bachelor of Bachelorette, right?
00:10:27
Sammi
Because Guy just says like, I'm really falling for you.
00:10:27
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah I thought it was like isn't isn't he like a North Shore guy or something?
00:10:30
Sammi
And that's going all in. So that's the bar. um So here's the thing. Do you know where in Chicago. Pascal's businesses.
00:10:46
Sammi
Yeah, Glencoe.
00:10:47
Steve
Okay, okay
00:10:48
Sammi
He's in Glencoe, so I was like, I mean, sure, Chicago.
00:10:52
Steve
Yeah. And then, and then where is, uh, uh, what's his face? Uh, like how I'm blanking Jordan.
00:10:55
Sammi
Well, I don't know where Jordan stuff is, but.
00:10:58
Steve
It looked like he was in like, like wicker park ish.
00:11:01
Sammi
Yeah, somewhere around there, well, near Lumel Nadi's.
00:11:03
Steve
We're like one of those neighborhoods, like, like he's like kinda by Wrigleyville, but not like the part of Wrigleyville where a Cubs fan is going to like pee on your garage door.
00:11:08
Sammi
Yeah.
00:11:12
Sammi
Yeah, like, I don't know. I mean, I just, okay. First of all, okay. now We're just gonna do the Chicago thing and then we'll go back, I guess. um Do you, like, I don't know enough about deep dish.
00:11:26
Sammi
i'm And I also just kind of think deep dish sucks.
00:11:29
Steve
Yeah.
00:11:29
Sammi
um I'm a Detroit style gal myself.
00:11:31
Steve
Oh, so am I as a, as a former Metro Detroit native for the first like 23 years of my life.
00:11:33
Sammi
I know. ah
00:11:37
Sammi
It is the most legit pizza.
00:11:40
Sammi
It's the most legit pizza.
00:11:40
Steve
Yeah.
00:11:40
Steve
It's the best.
00:11:41
Sammi
In my opinion, I think Detroit style pizza is the best style of pizza. And I think Milwaukee also has very good pizza.
00:11:48
Steve
I agree.
00:11:48
Sammi
and
00:11:48
Steve
That's my one of my two.
00:11:49
Sammi
Yeah, Milwaukee does more like the thin crust, but it's really, really, really good.
00:11:53
Steve
Cavern style is the Chicago folks would say. Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:56
Sammi
Yeah.
00:11:56
Steve
It's really good.
00:11:56
Sammi
um ah Yeah. You go to Ned's Pizza, you're going to get one of the best pizzas you've ever had in your life. OK. Heard it here first. um So, yeah, like I feel like we've been spoiled.
00:12:09
Sammi
We're from very good pizza places. Um, and then you go to Chicago and you're like, what is this soup? Like, this is just a disappointing casserole.
00:12:20
Sammi
And and then he picked Lou Melnotty's as the place to go.
00:12:23
Steve
Which is like that's like a chain Yeah, that would be like
00:12:24
Sammi
And that's so touristy. Like you don't have you don't actually have a favorite Chicago deep dish place like that, to me, rings so false.
00:12:31
Steve
Yeah, which which the equivalent. it's It's such a red flag, I agree.
00:12:35
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:12:36
Steve
And the equivalent would be, so for like Detroit style pizza, would be like if I took someone to hometowns in Detroit and I took them to Buddy's Pizza, which is good, but Buddy's is a chain.
00:12:45
Sammi
Okay.
00:12:49
Steve
There's probably 50 Buddies in Michigan.
00:12:49
Sammi
Yeah.
00:12:51
Steve
So like, what or or Jets Pizza or something, like why would I do that when I could take that to like a really special spot?
00:12:56
Sammi
Yeah.
00:12:58
Steve
So that that was a major red flag for me. And I just wanna say, My hottest of hot takes is I do not care for the regional city delicacies of Chicago.
00:13:13
Steve
So if you look at their big three, I think your pizza is a casserole and I shouldn't have to knife and fork it.
00:13:13
Sammi
No.
00:13:19
Steve
Not interested.
00:13:20
Sammi
We're gonna get in trouble today.
00:13:22
Steve
I think your hot dog is absurd.
00:13:24
Sammi
I actually like the hot dog.
00:13:24
Steve
Okay.
00:13:25
Sammi
I will be honest about that. I like the Chicago dog.
00:13:29
Steve
Listen, listen, what did Coco Chanel say?
00:13:30
Sammi
I'm just saying I like it.
00:13:32
Steve
When you when you leave the house, you gotta take one thing off. That hot dog put 10 things on.
00:13:36
Sammi
What would you take off of the hot dog?
00:13:37
Steve
You've got literally anything. There's so many things on there, it's just like, why? You oh gotta to have the celery salt. if that If I don't have celery salt, the whole thing's ruined. Absolutely not.
00:13:47
Steve
Get these gimmicks out of here. Your special bun, your goofball peppers, your big ass pickle, no, no, okay? And then the worst, and this is the one I'm gonna catch flack for.
00:13:58
Sammi
Yeah.
00:13:58
Steve
Chicago beef sandwich, the hot the hot beef sandwich.
00:14:00
Sammi
Yeah, you don't like the you got beef with the beef.
00:14:01
Steve
i do I got beef with the beef. How do you make a sandwich that is somehow soaking wet, like soggy, and yet dry at the same time? Like the bread is just falling apart and and the meat is like shoe leather.
00:14:11
Sammi
Yeah.
00:14:15
Steve
Absolutely not. Chicago, you're getting a wag of the finger for your culinary delights.
00:14:19
Sammi
Wow, you really don't.
00:14:22
Steve
Yeah.
00:14:22
Sammi
and That's interesting. Yeah, I have no opinions.
00:14:23
Steve
This is how we grow our audience. I have to court controversy.
Pascal's Hometown Journey and Family Dynamics
00:14:26
Sammi
Yeah, well, I mean, we're also like, I mean, I'm contractually obligated from birth to hate Chicago and you grew up with it, so that's good.
00:14:35
Steve
Yeah, yeah.
00:14:36
Sammi
I mean, does did Detroit and Chicago have any beef or is it too far away that it doesn't matter?
00:14:41
Steve
Too far away doesn't matter.
00:14:41
Sammi
Yeah, yeah, that's what I figured.
00:14:42
Steve
It's like two different worlds.
00:14:43
Sammi
Yeah, yeah.
00:14:44
Steve
Whereas Chicago is just like, we're expensive and we think we're better than you. And Milwaukee's like, we're not expensive and we're still pretty cool. Leave us alone, you bullies.
00:14:53
Sammi
Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah. Yeah, that's very that's accurate. um Yeah, it was. I mean, yeah, I don't have any opinion about like Chicago beef at all because I've never had it. But I mean, I feel I don't know. Like what's a Wisconsin equivalent to that like French dip? I don't even know.
00:15:13
Steve
I don't know, but it's like, if you go like regionally, if you go to Philadelphia and you get a cheesesteak, it is everything that a Chicago beef sandwich will never be.
00:15:16
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:15:21
Sammi
you You can't really miss with a cheesesteak.
00:15:24
Steve
No, they're beautiful.
00:15:25
Sammi
Cheesesteaks are like perpetually good.
00:15:27
Steve
So good.
00:15:27
Sammi
um Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's like I mean, I guess I mean, Milwaukee has brats and brats are good and you can't I mean, it's hard to mess up a brat and cheese curds are fantastic.
00:15:35
Steve
Yeah. Cheese curds, beer.
00:15:39
Sammi
And we've got really good pizza.
00:15:41
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:15:41
Sammi
So and good tacos.
00:15:42
Steve
Mm-hmm. Yeah, we're, we're better.
00:15:44
Sammi
So it's like what more do you need? You really don't need anything else. um But yeah, it's just yeah, I was just like you take I mean, I'm like Lou Melnotis either gave him money or Jordan's got to explain himself but and I'm sure other people in Chicago are mad um because I'm like.
00:16:00
Steve
He's, he's an invest. He's an investor in like a local Lou Malnati's franchise.
00:16:04
Sammi
Oh, maybe I don't know. It was just like I was like, what is going on? um But I just thought it was funny. So we'll go back to the Pascal day. But I thought it was funny that, you know, with Pascal, they were like in, you know, she's like, we're in Chicago in two days. I'm like, yeah, I'm sure it's like not.
00:16:20
Sammi
chicago and i was like oh yeah glenco um but he it looks like he had a salon in chicago maybe at one point and i'm not dogging on pascal i like pascal and i think this was his best date for sure like i think his hometown went the best it was the best date um he has like an extremely photogenic family
00:16:32
Steve
Yeah. Mhm.
00:16:40
Sammi
And they're all like really sweet. There ah it was like the most like heartwarming date um out out of the four.
00:16:47
Steve
Yeah.
00:16:48
Sammi
um But I thought it was funny that when she got to Jordan State, she goes, I'm in the heart of Chicago.
00:16:54
Steve
The real one.
00:16:54
Sammi
I was like, I'm in Chicago. And then she's like, I'm in the heart of Chicago. And they're like, look, here are even street signs in the river.
00:16:58
Steve
Mhm.
00:17:00
Sammi
So you know, for sure. You know, but anyway, so I thought that was really funny.
00:17:04
Steve
Yeah, i I still have a lot of question marks around Pascal.
00:17:04
Sammi
um
00:17:07
Steve
I do not see a path to victory for him, just because I think her biggest concern was like, is Pascal serious about this?
00:17:10
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:17:17
Steve
And she talked to his family and they're like, yeah, he's got, he's had a lot of girlfriends, he goes on a lot of dates that he's just got a sick of dating, but we think you're the one, this is gonna be different.
00:17:22
Sammi
Yeah.
00:17:27
Steve
And it's sincere and I believe it, but also it's like,
00:17:29
Sammi
her Yeah, I don't know.
00:17:31
Steve
i still don't I still don't see him outside of a, you know, he's he's the good time. He's not the long time.
00:17:39
Sammi
I mean, I think I knew that the date went well enough for him to secure the next one. like I put down his name before she gave him the rose.
00:17:48
Steve
Yeah.
00:17:49
Sammi
I was like, it's gotta go to Pascal. like He's gotta get one. If it's between him and Jordan, he's getting one. I felt like Jordan was gonna get the ax.
00:17:57
Sammi
even though that date went well, too. But anyway, so let's talk about Pascal. um Yeah, it was really cute to see him at the salon. Adorable. um He needs more Google reviews, everybody.
00:17:57
Steve
yeah
00:18:08
Sammi
Go give him nice Google. He's only got 40 reviews on Google. They're good.
00:18:12
Steve
What?
00:18:13
Sammi
Yeah.
00:18:13
Steve
Really? Only 40? That's actually surprising.
00:18:15
Sammi
Yeah.
00:18:16
Steve
Yeah. Go give, go give Pascal review.
00:18:17
Sammi
I know. They're like, I mean, go get your hair done and then give it a review. Make it honest. um But I was like really surprised.
00:18:23
Steve
Yeah.
00:18:25
Sammi
I was like, you only have 40 reviews, but he's got 4.6. That's respectable um on Google. Really nice. um Everybody said it's real it's incredible.
00:18:35
Sammi
So nice. Love Brenda. Had good experience with getting your hair dyed. Wonderful caring people best on anywhere professional staff.
00:18:48
Sammi
Oh They just love it second to none. Yeah, pretty much everyone gave gives it five stars. So he's got good reviews um One person didn't like it somebody gave it a one-star review Yeah, there's only there's like two stinkers Someone said I got taken advantage of and robbed I
00:19:00
Steve
Oh, there's always somebody.
00:19:11
Sammi
Um, she, I don't think so.
00:19:11
Steve
a
00:19:13
Sammi
I'm looking at the price. Listen, as someone who spends a heinous amount on my hair, like I hate it, like way too much, way too much on my hair and my nails.
00:19:22
Steve
Yeah.
00:19:23
Sammi
I mean, if I had the opportunity to marry someone who ran a salon, forget about it. Oh my God. I would do it. I would do it in a heartbeat.
00:19:33
Sammi
What a fun, fancy thing to do.
00:19:36
Sammi
Um, yeah. Yeah, I think I think that's the way to go. You know, um I mean, I get like free logos. So that's the perk I get. I get free identity materials.
00:19:36
Steve
Yeah, I highly recommend it ah That's not bad yeah, I've got a graphic designer
00:19:49
Sammi
Yeah, exactly. Actually, it comes in handy way more often than you think. I'm like, can you create a little label for this jam that I made? And he's like, yeah, how's this? And I'm like, that looks so professional.
00:20:00
Sammi
Thank you. And then, you know, I just save myself a bunch of money. So anyway, what I'm saying is if you're going to marry someone, make sure they do something interesting that can save you money. That's what you want.
00:20:10
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:20:10
Sammi
That's what you want. um Yeah, but um okay. So here's my marketing advice for Pascal. make Address these one-star reviews because there's only a few of them. Most of them are five stars. These are probably like, I mean, knowing where this is located, I know exactly the type of person who's complaining. um So um if you need some marketing help, Pascal, I will help you. um just in exchange i And I've driven very far to get my hair done.
00:20:36
Sammi
OK. And I'll do it again. So if you need it, that's that's the offer. I will I will help you if you do my hair. OK, great.
00:20:45
Steve
we're here for youddy
00:20:46
Sammi
So we've established that. But no, like the family is really lovely. He has some really tender moments. I feel like we actually do learn more about Pascal on this day and like we see a more tender side of him. And, you know, one of his daughters, one of his daughters seemed like she didn't want to be.
00:21:00
Sammi
She seemed like she did not want to be on camera. She didn't really talk very much. I had to like rewind because I was like, is that is that his son's girlfriend? But no, they all look alike. I think that's his other daughter. And I had to like rewind to confirm that that was his daughter. But she was just like really quiet and didn't want to be on camera. I don't think.
00:21:17
Steve
Sure.
00:21:17
Sammi
Um, which is fine. Um, but yeah, his older daughter was like, I think she's part of the family already. Like, and you know, all that stuff. And, um, and then we see the, did you kiss my grandpa clip?
00:21:32
Sammi
Just kept going to, and she's like, I did. Isn't that weird?
00:21:35
Sammi
And he's like, And he's like, oh, that's so awkward. um But yeah, it was cute. His friends were sweet. um Yeah, it seems like he's I don't know. It just seems like he's got a well rounded life and he's got like he's got it together and all that's missing is.
00:21:35
Steve
i i
00:21:48
Steve
Yeah.
00:21:52
Steve
A little Joan.
00:21:52
Sammi
I don't know, maybe not Joan, but but we'll see. um And then oh, and then I said, oh, maybe we'll see Maxime on The Bachelorette someday market. I don't know.
00:22:04
Sammi
I don't know.
00:22:04
Steve
Possibly.
00:22:05
Steve
You never know.
00:22:05
Sammi
I don't know. I don't maybe he's maybe he's not interested or it's not applicable.
00:22:10
Steve
Apparently this is like the big thing on the internet right now, ah which again, I try to stay off of these things, but yeah, the the the women that I work with in my office that I i talk about The Bachelor with and Bravo shows with, um they were like, yeah, everybody's talking and they they all want Pascal's son to be on The Bachelorette.
00:22:13
Sammi
Really? Oh, I didn't even notice.
00:22:30
Sammi
but Well, see, I saw I saw I I calls it like I sees it. i I saw him and I was like, he'd be a really good contestant.
00:22:34
Steve
Yeah.
00:22:37
Sammi
That's all I'm saying. OK, I didn't know that everybody was saying that, but doesn't surprise me.
00:22:39
Steve
You never know. Yeah.
00:22:41
Sammi
um
00:22:42
Steve
Which by the way, everybody could just be the women on the seventh floor of my building. It's hard to say, but it sounds like they're, they, when they say everybody's talking about it, I believe them.
00:22:47
Sammi
Everybody's talking about it, everybody. I mean, listen, it's not like it wouldn't be near the first time we've had lots of family members on the show and some
00:22:58
Steve
Oh, bachelor loves that. That's like their favorite thing.
00:23:00
Sammi
it's like It's like so weird though when they don't when they don't disclose it. And then you find out later like, wait, you two are siblings.
00:23:06
Steve
Yeah.
00:23:09
Sammi
And like they never said anything. And they're like, oh, yeah, they're siblings. It's efficient. It's efficient for casting reasons.
Jordan's Date and Dining Controversies
00:23:19
Sammi
OK, so now we're OK.
00:23:20
Sammi
Yeah. Now we go to the Jordan date. Oh, oh ah Pascal also says he's looking forward to the next chapter. That was kind of his closing for for the state. um So, yeah, so now they're actually in Chicago um and they go to Lumen Melnides.
00:23:34
Sammi
I also want to know where that cake is from. I was trying to figure it out and I can figure it out.
00:23:37
Steve
Oh, it looks like the the horrible vending machine cake and at airports.
00:23:41
Sammi
Yes, it does.
00:23:43
Steve
That's that's what i so I was watching. I was like, is that vending machine cake?
00:23:46
Sammi
I don't think it's the vending.
00:23:46
Steve
Jordan, you should be cut now.
00:23:48
Sammi
I don't think it's the vending machine cake, but I'm like, what, is does Lou Malnati's also have cake or is this like another place?
00:23:56
Steve
It's literally just like a vending machine on Navy Pier.
00:23:56
Sammi
Because they they got a top billing. Well, they got top billing and then it was like, and then they did, oh, wait, hold on. Is it Leza or whatever?
00:24:06
Sammi
Is that the one? Leza cake? Because there's they sell that together.
00:24:11
Steve
Is that the big red vending machine?
00:24:14
Sammi
Well, that's like, what's his face? um Why can't I think of it? It's, you know, like, is it Cake Boss or is it the other one?
00:24:23
Steve
Oh yeah, it's, it's called Carlos bake shop.
00:24:23
Sammi
The other cake guy?
00:24:28
Sammi
Wait, did you find it?
00:24:28
Steve
That's, uh, no, I, I didn't find the one in the bachelor.
00:24:31
Sammi
Oh.
00:24:32
Steve
I just know that's the, that's the cake vending machine that's in airports and casinos across the nation.
00:24:34
Sammi
Oh.
00:24:37
Sammi
i think it I think the brand is Leza. You heard it here first, but I could be 100% wrong.
00:24:41
Steve
Okay.
00:24:43
Sammi
um But it looks like that's like a Chicago thing that is known and they do have a picture of a... Well, I don't know if they do rainbow cake. Anyway, um really good reporting, Sammy.
00:24:56
Sammi
ah Good job. You don't know anything. um But there's one that has sprinkles on the outside and it could have rainbows on the inside. Who's to say?
00:25:04
Steve
We don't know.
00:25:05
Sammi
Could be. um Jordan, spill your secrets and tell us what your actual favorite deep dish pizza is. Don't lie.
00:25:11
Steve
Yeah.
00:25:12
Sammi
Don't lie. OK, anyway, um so.
00:25:15
Steve
Confirmed. They have a rainbow velvet cake.
00:25:18
Sammi
Oh, you did.
00:25:19
Sammi
Oh, you confirmed it.
00:25:19
Steve
Yes.
00:25:20
Steve
So that confirmed it. Yeah.
00:25:22
Sammi
Oh, OK, so I was right, maybe.
00:25:24
Steve
You, you were correct.
00:25:25
Sammi
I'm assuming because they sell that with Lumel Nattis. You can get that bundled.
00:25:29
Steve
Yeah. It looks like this could be it.
00:25:30
Sammi
It's like taste of Chicago.
00:25:32
Steve
I don't know though. This is more like, these are like more earthy colors. It it doesn't have like the comical rainbow.
00:25:37
Sammi
Oh, see, that's what I said.
00:25:39
Steve
Yeah, I, I'm starting to think, hmm.
00:25:39
Sammi
OK, all right, anyway.
00:25:43
Steve
I think it's a cake vending machine from the airport. They went to O'Hare.
00:25:45
Sammi
Okay, Jordan, you need to tell us you need to tell us it's otherwise we're going to spread this conspiracy theory that you like vending machine cake. Okay.
00:25:51
Steve
Yeah.
00:25:52
Sammi
So just admit it.
00:25:54
Steve
That's right.
00:25:54
Sammi
Admit it.
00:25:54
Steve
Come clean, Jordan.
00:25:56
Sammi
Yeah, Jordan, don't be afraid of the truth. And then say, then say what is on your mind that Milwaukee is
Chalk's Hometown and Midwestern Vibes
00:26:02
Sammi
better than Chicago. No, I'm just kidding.
00:26:03
Steve
Yeah.
00:26:04
Sammi
So I don't have a lot of notes about Jordan's ah date, except for I think when people say things like, and and this is me speaking, not from personal experience, but from personal observed experience.
00:26:15
Sammi
ah When people say things like making fun of me is the pastime of the family, that shit makes me so sad. I know he thinks it's like fun. ah That depresses me.
00:26:25
Sammi
um I don't think it's ever all the way fun.
00:26:25
Steve
Yeah.
00:26:29
Steve
No, probably not.
00:26:29
Sammi
But that's all I'll say about that.
00:26:30
Steve
Yeah.
00:26:31
Sammi
um But, you know, his family's cute and they're all cheering him on. And um he definitely has unconditional love for his kids. That's very cute.
00:26:42
Sammi
um But he isn't. He's like holding back. He's not ready to say I love you. He's not. He's like doesn't he's like, I wouldn't be ready to get engaged if that happened.
00:26:50
Steve
No, he he is the least ready, and he has been the most anxious the whole time, which is why last week I was like, this guy's cooked, I'm picking him to win, because I'm always wrong, so.
00:26:52
Sammi
Yeah.
00:26:55
Sammi
Yeah.
00:26:59
Sammi
Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that would be yeah that was quite a daring choice.
00:27:03
Steve
Yeah, I should have been playing 4D chess, I should have not picked him, because of course I would pick him, because he's not gonna win.
00:27:03
Sammi
um So, yeah, I don't have a.
00:27:09
Sammi
Yeah, that's wow. you're um Did you see by the way?
00:27:14
Steve
Wow, Steve, that's really impressive, yeah.
00:27:17
Sammi
By the way, did you see them? Did you see the substance? Have you seen the substance yet?
00:27:20
Steve
I did see the substance, yes.
00:27:22
Sammi
Oh, my God, I I'm going to be thinking about this movie for years.
00:27:27
Steve
That's so good.
00:27:27
Sammi
I'm never going to stop thinking about it. It's incredible. But when you're tired I'm like when you said 40 dress, I was just thinking about like and I won't know spoilers or anything.
00:27:37
Sammi
um But I will be doing like a long review on TikTok probably this weekend. So ah go to Sammy Ditto if you want to see that um deep dive.
00:27:48
Sammi
But um it made me think about like keeping the balance, maintaining the balance when you said you're playing 40 chess with yourself.
00:27:52
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:27:56
Steve
Oh yeah.
00:27:56
Sammi
OK, anyway, that's basically that's all I'm going to say. No spoilers. OK, so then we go to Wichita, Kansas at a ranch. So we go from Chicago to Hay bales.
00:28:08
Sammi
Celebration of life for my mom. What a big deal. Kathy's father is here.
00:28:12
Steve
Yeah, which Joan seemed to be into it. She was all touched and stuff and shock was hype.
00:28:15
Sammi
Yeah, no.
00:28:17
Steve
But I was just like, I guess this is why, like it's Joan and it's not me, but I still think that's a risk. That's a big swing.
00:28:23
Sammi
It's like, but it's like I also think it's.
00:28:24
Steve
Everybody else is like, take a shot of my Lord and have my vending machine cake. And he's like, my mom died.
00:28:27
Sammi
Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention the molar. I wrote down the molar and I forgot to mention it. um Yeah, that's why I was like, it's got to be like a Chicago brand, right, ah for the cake.
00:28:37
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:28:37
Sammi
But anyway, maybe not. um But yeah, so ah yeah, so Kathy's father's there, Chalk's father's there, brother's. The thing that I thought was interesting is that Chalk didn't have like, at least we didn't see like a full date before they did that.
00:28:55
Sammi
They just like went straight to the ranch and it was just all family time.
00:28:55
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah
00:28:58
Sammi
So like on the other dates, you know, it was like we're having some one on one time and then we're going to this other thing with, you know, with family and friends and stuff for the hometowns. So I feel like that I mean, not that Chuck can be put at a disadvantage right now, because I feel like he is definitely strong and probably still in the lead. um But yeah, there it was just kind of weird that it was like composed that way.
00:29:27
Steve
Oh, it was so weird.
00:29:27
Sammi
You know, yeah.
00:29:27
Steve
Yeah. Like they didn't, they didn't do any fun activities. We don't even see like chalk's house. It's like, do you just live in a, in a grassy field? You live out on the range chalk.
00:29:37
Sammi
Well, yeah, it was this it was his it was his friends ranch.
00:29:41
Steve
Yeah.
00:29:42
Sammi
Yeah.
00:29:42
Steve
But I was like, where's, where's Casa de chalk? Cause as far as I could tell, he's just Kevin Costner and dances with wolves.
00:29:44
Sammi
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:47
Steve
Like what's the difference?
00:29:48
Sammi
Well, I don't know. You got to ask him. Well, he's got to have some place where he makes that soup.
00:29:54
Steve
True. true
00:29:56
Sammi
I don't know why I thought of that.
00:30:02
Sammi
He is it chock full of kitchen supplies somewhere. I don't know where, but it's somewhere. um But yeah, so they I mean, they do. It was interesting, right? Because they do the celebration of life and then they're like, OK, back from commercial break time to party. um And they're like,
00:30:18
Sammi
put on these Dorothy slippers and um that kind of stuff. And I don't know, it's like yard games. It's like very Midwestern. It's like we're all hanging out outside and, you know, throwing things into things and eating on paper plates.
00:30:33
Sammi
And, you know, um it's fun.
00:30:34
Steve
Yeah.
00:30:35
Sammi
um And, you know, Joan gets emotional about chalk and she's like, I see a future with him and like, you know, and then I and then I wrote down, I kind of
Relationship Speculations and Fantasy Suite Impact
00:30:47
Sammi
blacked out.
00:30:47
Sammi
I got a little bored. um I mean, I know that they like each other. I just ah don't know. It's the least interesting.
00:30:54
Steve
Yeah.
00:30:55
Sammi
What? OK, now and here's another thing I'll say. Here's another vote in Pascal's favor.
00:31:01
Steve
Okay.
00:31:02
Sammi
She because I was like I started leaning towards the men that she said, oh, I feel safe. Reminds me of John reminds me of John. The only man she said reminded her of John now at this point in the game is Pascal.
00:31:16
Sammi
She didn't say any other man.
00:31:16
Steve
This is true.
00:31:17
Sammi
Reminder of John. Now that could be good. That could be bad. But obviously she's having a hard time letting go of John.
00:31:22
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:31:23
Sammi
That's a long relationship. It's of course understandable. And she's never going to fully let go and fully move on. She's always going to carry him in her heart as she should.
00:31:33
Sammi
um So would that be easier with someone who reminds her of things that that she loved about John? You know, she's like, he always like and I guess I didn't realize that about John until she mentioned that on Pascal's day.
00:31:41
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:31:46
Sammi
Like she was like, he always ah makes everything big and Pascal makes things big and and it's exciting and I like that and and she was like and I could really see a life here and it seemed like she had no hesitation like I'll pick up and move like absolutely.
00:31:50
Steve
Yeah, big personality.
00:32:01
Steve
and And he can do her hair too, which is important.
00:32:03
Sammi
And so I'm saying that's like such a win, you know, so she obviously has a very big, like emotional connection with chalk as well.
00:32:06
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:32:15
Sammi
um But the things she said about the two of them were different. And that's just me like completely discounting guy.
00:32:26
Sammi
But I don't I think next week it'll probably come down to pass Well, I don't know. Maybe Pascal will go. It's hard to say. It's hard to say.
00:32:36
Steve
Yeah.
00:32:37
Sammi
I just don't know if I see it with Guy either. I feel like it's going to come down to chalk and Pascal and it'll be exciting.
00:32:43
Steve
Yeah, I think chalk is is the safest bet.
00:32:46
Sammi
Yeah.
00:32:47
Steve
I wonder it Do you think, this is something that's always on my mind too. We've seen in the past where there's there's drama that arises during the fantasy suites because all of a sudden the light bulb turns on and a jealous guy or in some case jealous woman goes, oh no, they're banging the other ones too.
00:33:00
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:33:12
Sammi
Yeah, that's always weird.
00:33:14
Steve
Now, Will this be an issue? Is a guy from Wichita, Kansas, Chuck, who by all means is the front runner, is he too, you know, is he too conservative for something like this?
00:33:18
Sammi
Hmm.
00:33:26
Steve
Could that turn him off? Or, you know, whereas, you know, Mr.
00:33:29
Sammi
Yeah.
00:33:30
Steve
Lake Tahoe, this is every weekend for him, Pascal. Oh, in France, come on, bring them all in the room.
00:33:35
Sammi
Yeah, I don't I don't think I.
00:33:37
Steve
We'll have one fantasy suite.
00:33:40
Sammi
I don't think Guy or Pascal would be bothered by it. I agree that Chuck could get bothered by it just based on and because he's just like, it's me, right?
00:33:44
Steve
No.
00:33:46
Steve
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:50
Sammi
It's me all the way to the end.
00:33:51
Steve
Yeah. Is it me? Yeah.
00:33:52
Sammi
First kiss, last kiss. This is it. You know, so he might also like take it harder, you know.
00:33:59
Steve
Sure. But also if I'm Joan, even if I have a favorite roller coaster, I want to ride all the rides.
00:34:00
Sammi
um
00:34:03
Steve
So.
00:34:05
Sammi
Yeah.
00:34:12
Sammi
Okay, so if the men were roller coasters, so if the men were roller coasters, what kind of roller coasters would they be?
00:34:12
Steve
I just i specifically said that to see what face that he would make.
00:34:18
Steve
Yeah.
00:34:19
Sammi
Tell me.
00:34:20
Steve
Wow. Well, a guy like Pascal, you know, he's, he's a big personality and he's exciting. So he is clearly the top thrill dragster at Cedar Point.
00:34:30
Sammi
Okay.
00:34:31
Steve
Uh, whereas, uh, you know, ah a guy like guy, there's, there's still an era of mystery to him. Do we really know the real guy? I'm not sure. He's kind of like space mountain, which is shrouded in some darkness, but still a good time.
00:34:43
Sammi
oh Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, great time. One of my favorites.
00:34:48
Steve
Yeah. Uh, let's see. Jordan would be the, that pirate ship ride at like a county fair.
00:34:55
Sammi
No, Jordan's Batman. Jordan's Batman.
00:34:58
Steve
I think he's the pirate ship ride of the county fair. Cause it's not really a roller coaster and you get a little nauseous and it's, it's committed to only doing the same thing. And it breaks sometimes.
00:35:07
Sammi
No, I think Jordan's Batman. I think Jordan's Batman, Six Flags Great America.
00:35:09
Steve
Why is he bad, bad?
00:35:11
Sammi
Well, because there's nothing more Chicago than going to Gurney. And and it's only 20 seconds.
00:35:14
Steve
It's true. Jordan's actually the outlet mall. Uh, yeah.
00:35:19
Sammi
And, you know, um and yeah, that also breaks a lot. um And it's kind of an awkward way to sit because you're kind of your legs are hanging out and stuff like that. I think Jordan's Batman.
00:35:27
Steve
yeah Okay, you make a compelling argument.
00:35:30
Sammi
OK, just saying.
00:35:31
Steve
Also, I just want to say, Jordan, if you ever want to hang or if you ever want to do an interview for the podcast, I will meet you in Gurney at the Rainforest Cafe.
00:35:38
Sammi
Me too.
00:35:39
Steve
named the Name the day and the time.
00:35:39
Sammi
Me too.
00:35:40
Steve
Yeah, Sammy will be there.
00:35:40
Sammi
I'll come too. A hundred percent I'll be there. That's one of my favorite activities.
00:35:43
Steve
We love the Rainforest Cafe. Did you know they have gluten-free buns there?
00:35:48
Sammi
Did you know? Yeah, I love Gurney.
00:35:53
Sammi
No, Jordan, um Batman is one of my all time favorite roller coaster rides. So just saying I'm giving you one of my favorite roller coaster rides. OK. And then Guy. Wait, do we say Guy?
00:36:04
Steve
Yeah, Guy's Space Mountain.
00:36:05
Sammi
Oh, yeah. Well, I know what chalk is.
00:36:05
Steve
So what's chalk?
00:36:07
Sammi
Chalk's American Eagle.
00:36:08
Steve
It's a good choice. That's a very good choice.
00:36:11
Sammi
I wanted to do all six legs ones, but I think Space Mountain is good.
00:36:13
Steve
Yeah.
00:36:14
Sammi
I've never been to Cedar Point. I know crime.
00:36:16
Steve
You're missing out. That was a big one. When you grow up in Michigan, you go to Cedar Point.
00:36:20
Sammi
Yeah, yeah. Well, when you grow up in Wisconsin, you go you go to Gurney.
00:36:21
Steve
You go to Great American, yeah.
00:36:24
Sammi
That's all you do. You go to Gurney and then you go to Disney
Personal Reflections and Rose Ceremony Predictions
00:36:27
Sammi
like a couple of times.
00:36:27
Steve
So I've never been to that six flags.
00:36:30
Sammi
No.
00:36:31
Steve
i've i've only yeah I've only been to the one in in California, so yeah.
00:36:31
Sammi
um
00:36:35
Sammi
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Great America. It's a good one.
00:36:38
Steve
Oh my God.
00:36:38
Sammi
It's a good one. um Yeah.
00:36:40
Steve
When I went to the one, it was actually really annoying when I went to the one in California because this is back when I many years ago, dear listeners, I was a high school teacher and the senior trip was to Six Flags.
00:36:53
Sammi
Mm-hmm.
00:36:53
Steve
And you have like, when you're a teacher, you have to like volunteer for certain things. Like there's a list and I'm like, hell yeah, volunteer for Six Flags. That's easy. So I go to Six Flags, everything's fine.
00:37:04
Steve
Cause like I'm a chaperone, but essentially these kids, I'm like, you need to like literally check in with me for three seconds but every couple of hours. And otherwise I don't care what you do.
00:37:12
Sammi
Make sure you're alive, yeah.
00:37:14
Steve
Yeah. And then one of the kids took a bunch of drugs. ah Yeah.
00:37:18
Sammi
Oh my God! hi
00:37:21
Steve
So I just have this kid just like tripping balls on Molly. And I was like, you.
00:37:25
Sammi
No.
00:37:27
Steve
Yeah.
00:37:27
Sammi
Oh, that's awful.
00:37:29
Steve
And then he's like, I didn't do anything. I'm like, I know exactly what you did. I was you once.
00:37:36
Sammi
Oh, my God. You know, OK, so like, you know, it's funny. So when I was in high school, we road tripped it to Disney as like a band and choir and orchestra.
00:37:46
Steve
Oh my God.
00:37:47
Sammi
So it was like four buses. Like we're all 24 hour ride to Disney. OK. And, you know, of course we stopped at Cracker Wheel. Like, of course.
00:37:59
Sammi
you know, and then we'd stop at those like, you know, like big truck stop, you know, gas stations and stuff and whatever.
00:37:59
Steve
Double.
00:38:05
Sammi
And I thought we did not stop very often. I mean, we stopped like a handful of times and we made it down there and then we did the same thing back. You know, we just 24 hour bus ride back and um and we were there for maybe like five days, six days, we were there for quite a while. But basically we had to perform a certain amount of time. So like we'd go, we'd perform somewhere at Disney and then we'd basically get to fuck around like the rest of the day. And I was in everything because.
00:38:37
Sammi
I think that's obvious.
00:38:38
Steve
Yeah, Sammy does everything.
00:38:39
Sammi
um So yeah, so I was in the band, the choir and the orchestra. So like I did the most performing a person could have done in our group, you know, at Disney. And even with that, I mean, it was like we would perform and it would be like an hour of our time to like get there, get everything ready, perform.
00:38:57
Sammi
And then it was like, now you've got like 12 hours or whatever to do anything you want at Disney. And I was so certain that someone was going to fuck it up for us, you know, and like where freedom was going to be severely restricted. And I remember just like looking around at everybody like, nobody ruined this for me. I am having a good time and I don't want to be told what to do. And, you know, because they would just like let us off the bus and they would be like, just meet us here for lunch or meet us here for dinner. Literally, everybody showed up on time. Everybody did everything that they were supposed to do. I have never been with a better behaved like high school group.
00:39:34
Sammi
because like none of us wanted to mess it up. So we were like, we are all going to be perfect on this trip. And it was so it was so much fun anyway. So I have not experienced. I had did not experience the tripping balls ah student or anything like that.
00:39:48
Sammi
We were all perfect little angels.
00:39:49
Steve
Yeah.
00:39:50
Sammi
And then on the last night, um some of some of my ah my boyfriends, but not boyfriends, ah came into our hotel room and then we were like curling.
00:39:59
Steve
Scandalous.
00:40:00
Sammi
We were curling their hair and doing their makeup and like wrapping them up in toilet paper.
00:40:05
Steve
That's fun.
00:40:05
Sammi
And then like the chaperones came over and they were like, ah you're good. OK, bye.
00:40:12
Sammi
They were just like, ah carry on.
00:40:13
Steve
Oh my God.
00:40:14
Sammi
You all seem like you're having a really good time. And we're like, we are. um So anyway, um that was a fun question asking ah what rollercoaster is there.
00:40:25
Sammi
But yeah, chalk is definitely American Eagle wooden.
00:40:25
Steve
Mm hmm. Why is a wooden?
00:40:28
Sammi
um
00:40:29
Steve
Yes, he has to be a wooden coaster for sure.
00:40:30
Sammi
wooden. Wait, did you ever? And so have you ever read it? Does six legs have American Eagle at other six legs?
00:40:37
Steve
So they have they have a wooden coaster equivalent. And then, of course, you have Cedar Point roller coasters like the mine ride, which is I'm sure very similar.
00:40:41
Sammi
Okay.
00:40:47
Sammi
Mm. Oh, that also sounds very chalky. Yeah.
00:40:51
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:40:52
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah. American Eagle is like a wooden coaster. Now, the only thing that maybe makes it not as good of a fit is sometimes they would do it backwards.
00:41:03
Sammi
So like, depending on when you went, sometimes they would have it go backwards. Which, you know, is a little thrilling, but maybe, you know, maybe got trucks trucks got it in them.
00:41:09
Steve
Yeah, little thrilling.
00:41:12
Sammi
You know, I don't know.
00:41:12
Steve
That's, yeah, that's why he's chock and not chuck because he's got a little bit of mystery to him.
00:41:15
Sammi
Yeah, because he's got a little something different. So like every once in a while it goes backwards.
00:41:18
Steve
Well, something different.
00:41:19
Sammi
Yeah.
00:41:20
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:41:20
Sammi
Exciting. um Every once in a while he adds something different to that soup. And you're like, I'm tasting a little something different, Chuck. What's going on in here? What's in the soup? So, yeah.
00:41:32
Sammi
ah So Joan gets to the rose ceremony and she's kind of in a funk, but that weren't dress was really cute.
00:41:35
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:41:39
Steve
I know she looked great to quote a past Bachelorette ah contestant.
00:41:40
Sammi
So, yeah. Yeah. I was like,
00:41:44
Steve
She was looking like a smoke show.
00:41:47
Sammi
Yes, complete smoke show.
00:41:49
Steve
Complete smoke show.
00:41:49
Sammi
Yeah, that orange sequined dress was so cute. um So not a lot happened, obviously, during the Rose ceremony. Biggest thing is we she chose chalk first, then guy.
00:42:02
Sammi
And then I wrote down Pascal's name before she even said Pascal, because I was like, it was short and I'm just walking away from this ah TV. um So of course I went to Pascal and then they're going to Tahiti, exciting.
00:42:13
Steve
Ooh.
00:42:13
Sammi
They get to go somewhere. So good for them actually getting to go somewhere. um So do you have predictions at this point? Do you think it's just going to be chalk all the way or do you or or or is it going to be a surprise?
00:42:26
Steve
Well, so here's the thing.
00:42:29
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:42:31
Steve
In the past and and by in the past, I mean last week, I said, I'm always wrong. Why not choose the least obvious choice? The person who's clearly going to lose who is Jordan?
00:42:41
Sammi
her
00:42:41
Steve
and then Jordan clearly lost. So what does that tell me?
00:42:44
Sammi
yeah
00:42:46
Steve
That tells me I need i need to bet on the winning horse. And the winning horse in this race is the roller coaster known as Chalk, the old American Eagle.
00:43:00
Sammi
OK, I'll bet for Pascal just to make it interesting.
00:43:05
Steve
and Okay, okay.
00:43:06
Sammi
I don't know. I don't think that's going to happen, but I like taking chances. But not like Jordan as a chance. That was too much of a chance. I was like, that doesn't make sense to me.
00:43:15
Steve
It's too much of a chance. Yeah, exactly Yeah Well
00:43:17
Sammi
Too much of a chance. And I like Guy. I just don't see it enough between the two of them. I just am not seeing any like chemistry. You know, like I would say with her in chalk and her in Pascal, it's the most evident, you know, because she was like, oh.
00:43:33
Steve
guys hard to root for too I was like, I'm sorry you have a perfect jawline and You're incredibly handsome well into your 60s and rich enough to live on Lake Tahoe. I think you'll be okay.
00:43:44
Steve
I
00:43:44
Sammi
Well, yeah, no matter. Well, I mean, obviously he's been through some rough stuff. You know, his family talks about that and whatever.
00:43:48
Steve
Yeah.
00:43:49
Sammi
And I was like, oh, God, not another one embroiled in controversy. But I I don't think it was actually, you know, um I don't think it was his fault.
00:43:55
Steve
No.
00:43:58
Sammi
um But who knows? But I don't think so.
00:44:00
Steve
Yeah. And it's hard with these old guys too because, and and somebody asked Joan recently, I think she she was on like the Vile files or something like that.
00:44:02
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:44:07
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:44:09
Steve
And they're like, yeah, so this thing with guy, like, what's, what's up with that? And I guess her response was, well, we're all old as shit. So we've lived entire lives and large swaths of those lives may not be things we're proud of, which is that's fair.
00:44:20
Sammi
Right.
00:44:25
Sammi
Yeah, I mean, I think Joan is like a really yeah, she's just like a very level headed gracious person.
00:44:25
Steve
Yeah.
00:44:32
Steve
Yeah, she is.
00:44:33
Sammi
um Yeah. And I mean, and i and and that's the thing.
00:44:35
Steve
Unlike me.
00:44:37
Sammi
And that's the thing, like the standards are different, the Bars are different.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:44:42
Sammi
The evaluation is different on a show like this versus like The Bachelor of Bachelorette or like Love is Blind.
00:44:42
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:44:49
Sammi
Like the the the way you evaluate people is going to look different because of that and because of how much time people have had to grow and change and and go through stuff.
00:44:58
Steve
Yes.
00:45:01
Sammi
And, you know, ah like there's um I feel like I've talked about tell the bees on on here before. um Tell the bees on TikTok. But they were talking about like they've been doing a lot of good stuff, good work around like, oh, so you don't have anything in your life that like you're like that if people um like blew it up and put it on social media that you like wouldn't be like ashamed of.
00:45:25
Sammi
Like we've all hurt people.
00:45:26
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:45:27
Sammi
We've all done things that are like maybe out of our character or like in a certain situation or like a bad moment or whatever.
00:45:27
Steve
Yeah.
00:45:35
Sammi
Like we've all done those things. And to act like you have it is just like denying being human.
00:45:40
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:45:41
Sammi
um There are certain things that are like, well, I don't know if there's really any coming back from this.
00:45:45
Sammi
I would like Or you know like you have to understand that people might like view you differently and not like you after they find something out. But also, you know I think it is important to look at like ah the whole of a person and
00:45:45
Steve
ah
00:46:01
Steve
Yeah.
00:46:01
Sammi
you know, the combination of things that they've done to really get a feel for like who they are. And I do think, you know, in the case of Guy with like the tiny little sliver that we know about him, that, you know, production has let him let us know about him, that editing has let us know about him.
00:46:10
Steve
Yeah.
00:46:16
Sammi
It's like he had two very kind moments in the house um with with people who are well liked.
00:46:21
Steve
yeah
00:46:25
Sammi
um And it made him more well liked, you know, and it didn't. And he wasn't doing it for any kind of like, it wasn't like, oh, I'm going to do this. And so I'll look good in the house. Like, like you can tell, like, that's not like you don't get those vibes.
00:46:36
Steve
Yeah, no, not at all. None of these guys have that in their mind. There's like no like asked this play.
00:46:41
Sammi
No, there's no strategy in this.
00:46:44
Steve
No, no.
00:46:44
Sammi
Yeah. And that's the other thing. That's like another difference between like this and, you know, the bachelor bachelorette is like there's no strategy for like, how do I look good in front of the cameras?
00:46:49
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:46:54
Sammi
Like these are all people whose kids put them on the show for the most part. Like, oh, and and it's also interesting.
00:46:59
Steve
Yep.
00:47:01
Sammi
It adds an extra dimension because a lot of those kids are showing up on TikTok and talking about their experiences in a way that you don't you wouldn't happen. You wouldn't see like the parents of
00:47:10
Steve
Yeah.
00:47:11
Sammi
You know someone on The Bachelor or something like that be like well, this is why editing is wrong You know, so it's just like it's a totally different um Way of experiencing the show and and like the the production and then like what happens outside of production looks so different um But anyway, yeah, so like I
00:47:13
Steve
No.
00:47:31
Steve
yeah
00:47:35
Sammi
I don't know. It could be anyone's game. I think Chalk is. I do still think it's like Chalk's game to lose.
00:47:42
Steve
Yeah. Agreed.
00:47:43
Sammi
But yeah, a lot can happen in fantasy suites. Things can. I mean, you brought up Nick Byle. I think you can turn upside down.
00:47:49
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:47:50
Sammi
You can turn totally weird.
00:47:51
Steve
You never know.
00:47:53
Sammi
And then you never know. so um But I think those are good predictions. and um And we'll find out next week as we get a little bit closer what unfolds. And yeah, we'll talk ah we'll figure out a good time for it. Yeah, because I have like so many thoughts about Love is Blind. I have so many thoughts. I can't even keep them in. So frustrating. Between that and the substance, I have so many feelings. um but But until next week, everybody,
00:48:21
Sammi
um if you're watching If you're watching or listening to this before the weekend, have a good weekend. you know Maybe um it would be a better weekend if you went over and any of the places that we have podcasts and you can leave reviews and just leave a little five-star review and talk about how nice we are.
00:48:34
Sammi
It would be no tricks, only treats right now, please.
00:48:37
Steve
Only treats.
00:48:37
Sammi
Thank you. um Otherwise, it's spooky and I don't like it.
00:48:44
Steve
Yeah. And won't do needle drugs.
00:48:50
Sammi
I was like, that I didn't really lead you in that well.
00:48:52
Steve
No.
00:48:52
Sammi
Sorry.
00:48:54
Steve
And now we don't have the, where's the outro music?
00:48:56
Sammi
It's playing. You can't hear it.
00:48:57
Steve
Okay. No, I can't hear it. ah Needle drugs.
00:49:04
Sammi
and you ma you yeah we need are we mean or mean
00:49:07
Steve
Don't do them, kids.
00:49:07
Sammi
mean mean and mean
00:49:09
Steve
They're bad.