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Rose Plate Special: Bachelor Grant, Week 1
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We are SO back! This may be the very first season with all unique first names, no last initial required, and we are loving it! In this episode, we talk about Insomnia Cookies, our ongoing beef with Illinois, body glitter, and the Jane Goodall of hot girls.
Here's an old Jane Goodall of Hot Girls article, and the Tell the Bees take on the Matt & Rachael breakup. (Also, to be fair, we hadn't watched that ANNOYING fry video, but also, let's not act like an immature man is the Antichrist).
Our favorites so far? Gotta be Chloie and Zoe. And, of course, Parisa for channelling Sammi's love of PowerPoints.
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts
00:00:17
Sammi
Hello, I'm Sammy.
00:00:17
Steve
Oh, hello. And I'm Steve.
00:00:21
Sammi
And you're listening to Rose Plate Special, the most dramatic, ah sparkly, dressing-ist, wedding, caking-ist, drama-laming-ist recap podcast of The Bachelor ever.
00:00:37
Steve
Ever.
Unique Contestant Entrances
00:00:38
Sammi
And we are on episode one of grant season. And why do I keep wanting to be like the grant chiller?
00:00:47
Steve
Not your best pun.
00:00:48
Sammi
No, not like not.
00:00:49
Steve
Although I just not screamed at my television this this week because someone, and in case you're new to the show, this is the, you know, one of the first, I'd say three to four episodes where I'm just gonna constantly get people's names wrong.
00:01:05
Sammi
Yeah.
00:01:05
Steve
But a woman comes out and she's kind of like dressed like, I don't know, like a genie or something. And she's got like a little lamp and she's just like, oh, rub this and hopefully your wish will be Grant.
00:01:17
Sammi
Yes, I.
00:01:17
Steve
but bri Granted is fine. correct
00:01:21
Sammi
I wrote that down. Your wish will be grant it.
00:01:23
Steve
was
00:01:26
Sammi
I was like, it just say the rest of it.
00:01:29
Steve
You'll get it.
00:01:29
Sammi
It's OK.
00:01:30
Steve
It's cool.
00:01:31
Sammi
It will be you could be like your wish will be granted. Like, yeah, I was like, but you know, here's one thing that I will say about this season. I feel like we have like the most unique, interesting names we have maybe ever had on the show.
00:01:46
Steve
I hope that helps me.
00:01:46
Sammi
the Yeah, there's like, I don't even think there's anyone that has to have a last initial, because everyone has their own name this episode this season that like never happens.
00:01:58
Sammi
There's always like an Ashley C or a Courtney B or whatever, you know, so it's like, yeah, everybody is their own person.
00:02:02
Steve
Yeah, no one's ever been their own person before.
00:02:06
Sammi
And also, like, I can, I feel like I can tell more people apart. early than I've ever been able to. Like there's seasons where it's like, yeah, I don't know. It's just the same white girl copy pasted five times or whatever. So I'm like, oh my gosh, this is exciting. I feel like we have different looking contestants with unique names. And this is already a huge leap forward for the franchise.
Special Announcements
00:02:33
Steve
Oh, totally, totally.
00:02:35
Sammi
in 2025 took them long enough. um So that I'm very excited about. I have the cast in front of me, so I will hopefully not get anybody wrong. And I tried to like um place people as they spoke outside of like quick montages and things. um Before we get into the episode real quick, ah Jilly will be shipping soon. So in the next couple of weeks, we will have a Jilly box.
00:03:00
Steve
Very exciting.
00:03:00
Sammi
um Yes, if you missed outside of our regular season, we do have two special episodes that we posted. One was ah Courtney Robertson's book, which is definitely my favorite Bachelor Nation book so far. I mean, Bachelor Nation is a good book. um But this was like really interesting. And it was one of the first of its kind, if not the first of its kind. So definitely, it's two and a half hours long. Do it while you're like doing laundry and dishes and cleaning your house and stuff.
Cookie Preferences: Insomnia vs. Crumble
00:03:26
Sammi
Um, and then we also just did one last week on the secret lives of Mormon wives season one, which was really enjoyable. Um, we got a, yeah, someone else mentioned, someone commented on our tick tock video.
00:03:37
Sammi
We have a clip about like the Mormon stuff and someone was like, Oh, also crumble cookies and came from Utah. And I was like, Oh, I didn't know that.
00:03:45
Steve
Didn't know that makes sense Mm-hmm
00:03:46
Sammi
I was like, thank you. I learned something new. Yeah. um Yeah. It doesn't surprise me that crumble cookies came from Utah. But again, like so if crumble can spread, we can get a swig.
00:03:56
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:03:58
Sammi
We can definitely get a swig.
00:03:58
Steve
We can get a swig. Or like one of those combo things, like when you see like the KFC and the Pizza Hut and the Taco Bell altogether, give me a swig crumble.
00:04:03
Sammi
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:04:07
Steve
That'd be nice.
00:04:08
Sammi
OK. Here's my hot take. I think, well, I can't eat anything at crumble, so that could be part of it.
00:04:13
Steve
yeah Neither can I, probably.
00:04:15
Sammi
But there's like no part of crumble cookies that look good to me. And also, like if you have insomnia near you and you're not getting that instead of crumble, I don't really know what's wrong with you.
00:04:25
Steve
Wow, that is that is piping hot.
00:04:26
Sammi
That's my hot take. Yeah, people are gonna think it's rage bait again.
00:04:31
Steve
Yeah, yeah. I will say, I think i think that Insomnia Cookies has gluten-free cookies.
00:04:32
Sammi
It's not, it's not.
00:04:37
Sammi
They have gluten-free, yeah, because I've i've had them.
00:04:39
Steve
Yeah, okay, well there you go.
00:04:40
Sammi
They have gluten-free vegan cookies. And that's what I go and get.
00:04:43
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:04:44
Sammi
And they have multiple varieties, okay?
00:04:46
Steve
Mm.
00:04:47
Sammi
So you don't just have one, at least for the vegan. I think there is at least two or three gluten-free types as well, depending on the location you go to.
00:04:53
Steve
Mm.
00:04:55
Sammi
Plus they serve at night, which is
Contestant Backgrounds and Trends
00:04:57
Sammi
great. And I used to do this like, um I'm trying to not say the name of the thing but I used to do this like creative networking monthly meetup thing and we would bring like free food and free coffee and we'd have a speaker and we'd kind of go around the city to different places and whatever.
00:05:10
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:05:17
Sammi
So I was like one of the people who was organizing that and insomnia like this is hot tip insomnia gives ah food away to stuff like that.
00:05:27
Steve
Oh.
00:05:28
Sammi
pretty freely. Like they're pretty cool about it. Like you just say, Hey, like, so if you have like a student group or like a nonprofit or something like that, and you're like, Hey, we're putting on this thing for free.
00:05:31
Steve
Hmm.
00:05:38
Sammi
And this is what it is. They have like, they were like, just come on in. and We got like several dozen cookies for nothing. It was really cool. um Don't all try it at once, though, because then they're gonna say no.
00:05:49
Steve
Yeah, then they'll take it away. Can't have that.
00:05:51
Sammi
Yeah, but I mean, shout out to insomnia because they were like so accommodating and so cool, very easy going. So um and I just think crumble cookies always look like they're not fully baked.
00:06:02
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:06:02
Sammi
Like they always look kind of raw in the middle.
00:06:05
Steve
Yeah.
00:06:05
Sammi
And they're also ginormous. Like, yeah.
00:06:07
Steve
They are. And it's I mean, it's the difference between like a donut shop and like a donut shop where everything is like a $5 donut.
00:06:12
Sammi
Yeah.
00:06:13
Steve
And i I mean, I enjoy the Instagram ability of a $5 donut, but also it's like, come on, I don't i don't always need that, so.
00:06:21
Sammi
Yeah, it's like sometimes you just want like a honey dip or whatever.
00:06:24
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:06:24
Sammi
um But yeah, so it was anyway. So yeah, crumble cookies also from Utah.
00:06:30
Steve
There you go.
00:06:30
Sammi
I there now we did start this episode, almost start this episode with a Mormon. Did you notice? Did you notice? I was like, yes.
00:06:39
Steve
Oh, there is a Mormon. Yeah. She's on the horse ranch and she's like, I have 27 brothers and
Poker Lifestyle Insights
00:06:44
Steve
sisters. I was like, this feels familiar to me.
00:06:44
Sammi
Yeah, she was like the youngest of like somewhere between 11 and 13 siblings. I have a written down. um Is it Latia? Is that how you pronounce her name?
00:06:53
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:06:53
Sammi
OK, I wanted to make sure I got it right.
00:06:54
Steve
Yep. I think so.
00:06:55
Sammi
I I didn't write down the pronunciation. And then the last time she was on my screen, I went, OK, Grant's going to say her name. Right. And then I don't think he did. And then I was like, damn.
00:07:02
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:07:03
Sammi
OK. But yeah, so she's so first of all, she's a venture capitalist from Salt Lake City, Utah. Yeah.
00:07:11
Steve
What is that? That just means independently wealthy. What?
00:07:14
Sammi
Well, I mean, wasn't it kind of obvious from like all like all of her shots?
00:07:17
Steve
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:19
Sammi
It was like it was like, you know, my my family, like my parents met and why now she does have a sad origin story because her dad died when she was like three months old. So sad.
00:07:30
Sammi
um But then it was like, yeah, like they were doing all like rich Mormon shit. It was like we're horseback riding and yeah.
00:07:35
Steve
Yeah, yeah. Hi, my name is Steve and my job is generational wealth.
00:07:42
Sammi
Yeah, and it's well, I mean, you know, but she seems really sweet, I will say. And I really liked her outfit. It was really sparkly and cute. There were two that hers wasn't like one of the two dresses I liked the most. And I want you to guess which two dresses.
00:07:57
Sammi
um But it was a nice dress, but I don't know what it is. Like a few of the women had like things across like draped across their neck. Did you notice?
00:08:05
Steve
Yes.
00:08:06
Sammi
And hers in particular kind of reminded me of that story that we all read as millennials as kids of the lady with the green ribbon around her neck.
00:08:11
Steve
Mm hmm. Yeah. And then you take it off her neck and then her head falls off.
00:08:14
Sammi
Yes. Yes. So I'm like, but we do have other shots of her not wearing stuff like that. So I'm not worried. I'm not scared.
00:08:21
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:08:21
Sammi
um But it was a little scary for a second. And then they got into like her package and I was like, okay, she's She had her head is attached, so it's fine.
00:08:31
Steve
Yeah. Also, Sammy, I feel like
00:08:34
Sammi
Yes.
00:08:36
Steve
It is truly the year 2007 all over again.
00:08:39
Sammi
Yeah, tell me why.
00:08:40
Steve
um Couple of reasons, and we've we've noted this before,
Grant's Personal Story
00:08:45
Steve
particularly I think it started maybe the last season of Bachelor in Paradise, but it is in full swing. Body glitter is just unstoppable right now.
00:08:51
Sammi
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:08:52
Steve
ah it is It is a supernova force running through this season, ah including one gal who is just, she just looks like she covered herself in Vaseline and then rolled around in some in some glitter.
00:09:05
Steve
It's incredible stuff.
00:09:05
Sammi
Wait, which one was that? I don't know if I remember.
00:09:06
Steve
Might've been one of the early gals. ah I think she had like an orange dress on or something. This this is the part where I struggle. But body glitter, hot. um I saw at least one belt that I would describe as a chunky belt.
00:09:20
Steve
And that's very 2007.
00:09:20
Sammi
Oh. Well, because we're well, we're entering recession court, you know, it's going to be like, you know, wine colored houses again, and like wine colored interiors and all that stuff.
00:09:29
Steve
ah I hope so.
00:09:31
Sammi
It's coming. in It's coming back. And like the Italian bistro kitchens and the roosters are coming back.
00:09:33
Steve
i
00:09:37
Steve
Oh, yes, okay, this is great.
00:09:38
Sammi
And Nora Jones on the radio, so it's going to be fine.
00:09:41
Steve
Did did she ever leave? ah Here's the other thing.
00:09:43
Sammi
She never never not in my heart. Yeah.
00:09:47
Steve
So these things we witnessed on The Bachelor. And then in real life, because The Bachelor isn't always real life for me. I feel like they're a little more cutting edge on the trends because these are like these are like hot girls.
00:09:54
Sammi
Right.
00:09:57
Steve
They know what's going on.
00:09:58
Sammi
Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.
00:09:58
Steve
But you know to really understand the common man, you must go to a bowling alley in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, which I did for ah for a birthday party.
00:10:09
Sammi
Didn't we just talk about bowling alleys last week?
00:10:10
Steve
and Yeah. Yeah. But a girl there, she had a, uh, a digital camera. So this is 2007 core is in full effect. It's it was vintage too. It was like a three megapixel Canon or something.
00:10:21
Sammi
Wow.
00:10:22
Steve
And I'm like, don't you have a phone? And she's like, no, this is more fun. And then she posted the pictures and I actually got nostalgic for like just crushed bit rate, ugly washed out digital. So it's 2007.
00:10:33
Sammi
Wow.
00:10:34
Steve
Let's have a housing market crash. Let's go.
00:10:37
Sammi
OK, all right. Well, OK, then I don't know if I will go that far.
00:10:40
Steve
ah No, don't, don't crash housing market.
00:10:41
Sammi
um No, you just you just reminded me, though.
Creative Contestant Impressions
00:10:45
Sammi
um I don't know if you know Esther Pavitsky. She's she's an actor. She was in Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and that other show that I'm forgetting the name of that she co-starred in.
00:10:53
Sammi
And I'm losing it. But she's done a lot of character actor work and she's stand up. OK, anyway. She does a segment on TikTok where she says she's the Jane Goodall of hot girls. And she'll be like, this is what hot girls are into. And if you haven't watched it, I'll put it in the description. I highly recommend her videos because she'll be like, this is what all the hot girls are doing. And it's just like the most random stuff you've never even thought about. And she's like, well, that's what they're doing right now. I'm just telling you that's what they're doing.
00:11:24
Sammi
Like they're drinking this coffee and they're wearing this underwear and you know, whatever. And you're like, okay, I believe you. And she's like, I've spent a lot of time researching these hot girls and that's what they're doing.
00:11:35
Sammi
Um, yeah, body glitter. I mean, well, so it's funny cause. Well, I dunno, I dunno if this has ever happened to you where like you posted a video about something and then people ask you completely unrelated questions or have completely unrelated comments. I dunno. I had one video where I was like out in natural light and I was, and I was like talking about something kind of serious. And the comments I got were like, what's your prescription?
00:12:00
Steve
ah
00:12:01
Sammi
And I was like, bad, thanks for noticing. um They're like, those glasses are wild.
00:12:06
Steve
What's your prescription? Is it Coke bottle? ah
00:12:08
Sammi
Yeah, come on, Millhouse. And I'm like, yeah, they're terrible. And then but the other question was, Oh, my God, I love your eye look. And what did you do? And I've got I just got like, I had bought this like glitter eyeshadow thing, like a like a stick basically from Sephora forever ago.
00:12:25
Sammi
And now I just wear it every day because I get compliments when I wear it. And it's very glittery, but you can't totally tell on here. But so I'm very much in support of the glitter everywhere.
00:12:36
Sammi
I mean, I've that never left my heart.
00:12:36
Steve
The shimmering woman.
00:12:39
Sammi
So like, I guess I don't even notice. Like, I'm just like, yeah, you're covered in glitter.
00:12:42
Steve
No, you just, you've been a glitter gal ride or die like for the past 20 years.
00:12:45
Sammi
Yeah.
00:12:46
Steve
And now yeah I never left.
00:12:46
Sammi
Yeah. i Like you're covered in glitter. That's my vibe.
00:12:49
Steve
Where'd you guys go?
00:12:50
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah, that takes me back.
00:12:52
Steve
Uh, maybe I'll give it a shot.
00:12:53
Sammi
Yeah. ah Anyway, so oh, also, I they spent some music budget on Grant. So good for him. They actually got like a real song that we recognize.
00:13:01
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:13:04
Sammi
I was like, Oh, Sultan Beppa. Okay, that's cool.
00:13:07
Steve
Yeah.
00:13:07
Sammi
Sometimes they like don't spend any money on um the beginning packages. So good for him.
00:13:12
Steve
And and real quick real quick, how do you feel about Grant overall?
00:13:16
Sammi
Mm hmm. I will say, oh, yeah, I was I should have brought this up early. um The beginning part where he's kind of like talking about family stuff and all of that, I feel like Grant makes way more sense now, like right away.
00:13:30
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:13:32
Sammi
um I know he
00:13:32
Steve
Yeah. Well, and they do a lot of work, too, because we didn't get any of that on the season that it was on.
00:13:35
Sammi
Yeah, we yeah, we didn't get anything yet at all. But it's like when he's talking about like, yeah, like his dad and all of that and like growing up in a family where everyone's fighting and like you know, and and just like wanting like a happy call.
00:13:51
Sammi
Like I see what he's trying to put out in the universe is something that he just like very, very much desperately wants.
00:14:00
Steve
Mm-hmm
00:14:00
Sammi
um And instead of it feeling like um
Family Dynamics and Show Exits
00:14:05
Sammi
I don't know like phony I think it's just him being like hopeful and aspirational and so like he makes a lot more sense in that context as soon as he started talking about that stuff I was like ah yes okay yep this makes sense now it didn't make sense when you see a sliver of him but when you see kind of a bigger part of the picture, like it makes more sense.
00:14:11
Steve
Yeah
00:14:28
Sammi
I also knew they were going to put Taylor on the show in a bigger way immediately because I was like, wow, she's stunning his sister. And I was like, ah show but I don't know. She'll be a part of Bachelor Nation in some way, you know.
00:14:41
Steve
Oh yeah.
00:14:41
Sammi
So as soon as she showed up, like I was like, oh, yeah, well, at least she's doing that.
00:14:41
Steve
we
00:14:46
Sammi
Like, but I don't know.
00:14:47
Steve
Oh yeah. if If you got like a ah hot sibling, they're involved.
00:14:48
Sammi
She might be back. Yeah.
00:14:50
Steve
It's, this is how it works.
00:14:51
Sammi
She's like gorgeous. Yeah, they they look a lot alike and she's like just absolutely beautiful.
00:14:53
Steve
who
00:14:57
Sammi
So I was like wow.
00:14:58
Steve
Yeah. Also, my favorite line of the whole night is when she walked in and all the girls were like whiplash, like, what?
00:14:58
Sammi
Yeah.
00:15:05
Sammi
Yeah. Who is she?
00:15:06
Steve
Because she's really hot.
00:15:06
Sammi
Yeah.
00:15:07
Steve
Who is she? And then they like go to the confessional and the girls are like, yeah, we're like, who is that bitch? And then somebody else was like, she just walks in like a boss, vagina first, vagina first.
00:15:17
Sammi
How did I miss that?
00:15:19
Steve
I love that. I was I was literally just going like vagina first at the TV.
00:15:24
Sammi
And then and then all of us and then it's like, oh, it's my sister. And then they're like, oh, we love you, then we're fine with it.
00:15:30
Steve
We love her.
00:15:31
Sammi
And I was like, yeah I mean, I think I think I mean, some of the women seem like sweet and cool, but there's definitely it seems like there's going to be some tension, I don't know, pretty quickly from the previous not to get too far ahead.
00:15:31
Steve
She's so cool.
00:15:43
Steve
who
00:15:45
Sammi
um
00:15:45
Steve
Yeah.
00:15:47
Sammi
Very cute. Grant gives his grandma the first rose, which shut up. That's so cute. Oh, and the other note that I had was a lot of the establishing shots reminded me of like the photos that I use when I need to do presentations about Houston, which I actually have to do fairly regularly.
00:16:04
Sammi
because I have a Houston client. So I'm like, oh, I know where that is.
00:16:06
Steve
Yeah.
00:16:08
Sammi
That's in that park that I always like find pictures of and put in presentations about, look at how nice Houston is.
00:16:09
Steve
Mhm.
00:16:15
Sammi
Don't worry about all the traffic. Don't worry about that park. Just look at this park.
00:16:17
Steve
um
00:16:18
Sammi
It's so and so nice. I was like, oh, that's so funny. um But yeah, ah that those were kind of my beginning notes about about Grant was just like, yeah, like, and I'm glad his dad's doing well. And um that he finds this as like a a new fresh start for both of them. And that's very, you know, that's very sweet. And so Yeah, I mean, I'm rooting for him.
00:16:45
Sammi
I'm I hope we get to see more of Grant. And I feel like we already have done. I mean, that's what always happens. Right. We're like like Jen. It was like, we don't know anything about Jen. And I'm like, Jen's amazing.
00:16:57
Steve
Yeah.
00:16:58
Sammi
So like, don't talk bad about Jen. um So it's just it's so interesting. Yeah.
00:17:03
Steve
Mm-hmm. Yeah, my impression of Grant is i'm I'm glad we get a little more into who he is and what he wants.
00:17:10
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:17:12
Steve
And he seems like he's like, I want a wife yesterday and 37 children.
00:17:16
Sammi
Yeah.
00:17:18
Steve
We're doing it now. Like he is very gung-ho, which sure.
00:17:20
Sammi
Mmhmm.
00:17:23
Steve
ah I think he is a very classically molded bachelor contestant, which is to say he's handsome. He has traditional values, i.e. I want to get married young and have a gazillion children. And he seems like kind of an idiot, like not not the biggest idiot, just like he's not the smartest man. he's not He doesn't have a PhD. Only red flag, I still don't like that he's a day trader. I'm sorry, that's not a job.
00:17:50
Sammi
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
00:17:51
Steve
That's a job where 97% of people don't do it after a year because they lose a bunch of money.
00:17:57
Sammi
Right. right
00:17:59
Steve
It's not, it's not, I mean, you could say my job is slot machines at Potawatomi casino and you would have a better track record than day traders. So much better odds if you're a professional poker player.
00:18:08
Sammi
Well, yeah, and well, and you know, I served a lot of professional poker players. That's a job. That's a job. Yeah.
00:18:17
Steve
Yeah, much better job.
00:18:17
Sammi
Well, especially if they treat it like a job. I mean, I will say they they tipped like it was a good job.
00:18:23
Steve
Oh yeah, there no you can make a lot of money doing that.
00:18:24
Sammi
So, yeah.
00:18:26
Steve
And you get to like wear sweatpants and not shower for four days.
00:18:26
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:18:29
Steve
like That's dope.
00:18:30
Sammi
Yeah.
00:18:31
Steve
But you have tons of money.
00:18:32
Sammi
Yeah, it's interesting.
00:18:33
Steve
like Poker players are like the stinkiest, scummiest dudes who have so much cash. It's nuts. And they'd be the first to say that. They'd be like, yeah, I smell like balls.
00:18:41
Sammi
Shout out to one of my BFFs who's a poker player.
00:18:45
Steve
Right?
00:18:45
Sammi
ah
00:18:45
Steve
And i bet I bet she's nodding her head right now. She's like, yeah, all those dudes smell like balls.
00:18:49
Sammi
No, he. Yeah.
00:18:50
Steve
Oh, he's okay.
00:18:51
Sammi
Yeah.
00:18:51
Steve
Then he definitely smells like balls sometimes.
00:18:52
Sammi
He smells fine, he smells fine.
00:18:52
Steve
He knows this.
00:18:55
Sammi
At least when I hang out with him, I don't know, maybe he cleans up.
00:18:57
Steve
Yeah. Cause he's like, i'm I'm hanging out with Sammy. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta wash it off. But he knows, he knows. I guarantee he's been like, I have a shower in a bit. It's fine.
00:19:04
Sammi
Wow.
00:19:06
Sammi
Wow, this is so, I didn't think this would go in this. ah Wait, now I have to ask you some questions because I used to work at Potawatomi.
00:19:12
Steve
Yes. Sure.
00:19:14
Sammi
What's your opinion of Vince Van Patten?
00:19:17
Steve
Vince van, pat I don't know Vince van Patten.
00:19:18
Sammi
You don't know Vince Van Patten? He was like the face of Potawatomi for all those years, remember?
00:19:20
Steve
I don't.
00:19:22
Steve
I have no idea, I have no idea.
00:19:23
Sammi
Oh my gosh. Okay. You know Dick Van Patten.
00:19:26
Steve
Yes, I know Dick Van Petten is.
00:19:27
Sammi
Okay. So he's his son, Vince Van Patten.
00:19:29
Steve
Oh.
00:19:31
Sammi
And you watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You don't know Vinny?
00:19:33
Steve
okay i Okay, now it's all connecting with me.
00:19:36
Sammi
Yeah.
00:19:36
Steve
Okay, I had i had no idea, this all makes sense.
00:19:36
Sammi
OK. OK. OK. Yeah. Yeah. So Vince Van Patten. OK. I never got to meet him. So I don't have an opinion. But I've heard he was very nice.
00:19:45
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:19:46
Sammi
But I never met him in person. But yeah, he's married to. um Oh my God. Why am I b blanking on her name? That's so bad. You know who I'm talking about? ah Soap opera star.
00:19:57
Steve
Oh.
00:19:58
Sammi
Patten. Wife. Sorry. Everyone, I have to Google this. Stop yelling at me. It's Eileen Davidson. Um, so he's married to Eileen, Eileen Davidson, who was on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills for a number of years.
00:20:07
Steve
Yes, yes.
00:20:08
Sammi
And, and yeah, he's a professional poker player and he used to be the face of Padawati bingo casino. Um, around the time that I worked there and before you don't remember it, like he always had the slick back hair and he would like, you know, flip the bingo trip and stuff like that.
00:20:14
Steve
Wow.
00:20:21
Steve
Oh, yeah.
00:20:22
Sammi
Yeah.
00:20:22
Steve
Okay, this is all this is all connecting with me now.
00:20:22
Sammi
Okay.
00:20:24
Steve
That makes sense.
00:20:24
Sammi
So that's okay. I thought maybe we would have an opinion on Vince Van Vatten, but apparently
00:20:28
Steve
No, the man with strong opinions on the most frivolous things is like, let's be a bad, I can go either way.
00:20:33
Sammi
I have no idea who he is. Um, but yeah, so anyway, he's a professional poker player. He does other stuff, but he's been a professional poker player for a really long time, which I thought was really interesting that they had him be the face because that was actually his job.
00:20:45
Sammi
And also, you know, he's been an actor and stuff like that as well.
00:20:48
Steve
Sure. Yeah.
00:20:49
Sammi
Um, but I, I know he feels this way. Like this is something that I learned when I worked at the casino and it's so funny cause like I don't gamble at all. I feel like I've mentioned that before, like, I've put in money and then I'm like, I win.
00:21:01
Sammi
I'm done. Um, but he, um, yeah, he talks about it at like, well, you know, when you're up, it's a good day at work. And when you're down, it's a bad day at work, but you go home and it's the end of your work day.
00:21:10
Steve
Yeah.
00:21:11
Sammi
And you know, you come back the next day and you know, to not have that like emotional attachment to your money. And I always thought that was really interesting. Um, but I'm too cheap for that.
00:21:22
Sammi
So, I know, actually, I would just rather blow my money on tangible things. That's really what it is.
00:21:28
Steve
Sure.
00:21:28
Sammi
um So but anyway, yeah, I mean, you know, day trader, whatever. I mean, he'll just become an influencer. So it's fine.
00:21:36
Steve
Oh yeah. No, he's, he's already, he's got to be already transitioning to that. Like he's, my job is brand deal. Like that's going to be his new thing.
00:21:42
Sammi
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I could see him being someone who um ends the show and writes a book for sure.
00:21:49
Steve
Really?
00:21:50
Sammi
You know, yeah.
00:21:50
Steve
Really? Why do you think, why do you think he's a book writing guy? What, what gives you the vibes?
00:21:52
Sammi
Um, I think he's like a motivational book writing guy.
00:21:55
Steve
Okay. Yeah, I can see that.
00:21:55
Sammi
I think he's like an Eric type. Yeah. Who, who talked about who moved my cheese? Like I'm bachelor in paradise.
00:22:05
Steve
Oh my god.
00:22:05
Sammi
And I was like, you're supposed to be relaxing and you're like, and not to say that it's not on my shelves, but I haven't read it. So I don't know.
00:22:10
Steve
Yeah. Yeah, it's just its but Yeah, you're just at the bachelor mansion.
00:22:12
Sammi
Yeah.
00:22:13
Steve
There's this beautiful like pool and just all and you're just like, Have you guys read Rich Dad Poor Dad?
00:22:19
Sammi
Yeah, it's like that. It's like that. That's what I'm saying.
00:22:21
Steve
No.
00:22:23
Sammi
I think I think Grant is very rising grind. You know what I'm saying?
00:22:26
Steve
you
00:22:27
Sammi
Like so not.
00:22:27
Steve
Oh, LinkedIn mindset.
00:22:29
Sammi
Yeah, not my type, but you know, but I can see why he's a type for a lot of women. Also, he's very good looking. I mean, you know, and ah like and yeah.
00:22:38
Steve
Yeah. What's the opposite of rise and grind like lay down and coast? Is that that's more my style.
00:22:44
Sammi
Yeah, I don't know. Well, I don't I don't really like the opposite either. but Somewhere in between.
00:22:52
Sammi
Rise and do an OK job.
00:22:55
Steve
Okay. That works. That works.
00:22:56
Sammi
Yeah, something like that, something like that, ah even though like I have to push the rise and grind out of me anyway. So OK, so we talk we get to the women. Oh, Rose is the first one who comes out.
00:23:06
Sammi
She also has like kind of an OK pun. You know, she's like, will you accept this rose?
00:23:11
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:23:14
Sammi
How about it?
00:23:15
Steve
Oh, it's me.
00:23:15
Sammi
a Yeah, so that was good.
00:23:17
Steve
I'm the rose. Yeah.
00:23:20
Sammi
um
00:23:22
Steve
Rose, don't watch this clip. You're going to pick up a jerk.
00:23:26
Sammi
Um, anyway, well, she's from Illinois, so it's just like par for the course for us.
00:23:30
Steve
Oh, yeah, exactly.
00:23:30
Sammi
We just have to like hate on her.
00:23:31
Steve
Smack talking.
00:23:31
Sammi
Yeah. Uh, fibs. Uh, anyway, so, but yeah, so, and then we get to Latiya. I mean, she was really sparkly too, but her dress was more sparkly than her body.
00:23:37
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:23:40
Sammi
So I don't think that's who you're talking about.
00:23:41
Steve
No.
00:23:42
Sammi
Um, and then Janay comes in and she's got like the powder and she like comes out and she's like, wait and she's like, yeah, she's like, do you want to,
00:23:48
Steve
Oh yeah, the LeBron James. And then she's like, do it with me!
00:23:51
Sammi
Yeah, she's like, do you want to shake off some pregame jitters? And he's like, OK. So they do that.
00:23:56
Steve
which is great cause he's wearing like a black tux. So like the moment he does it, he's just covered in baby powder, which you gotta think of you're the next girl who comes out. You're like, what, what is it going on?
00:24:03
Sammi
Yeah.
00:24:03
Steve
Like you can't see it right now, but I I'm wearing the nice clothes cause I just got out of work.
00:24:08
Sammi
her
00:24:08
Steve
Um, but I, uh, you'll actually really appreciate this Sammy.
00:24:13
Sammi
OK.
00:24:13
Steve
Um, I, I had a, a vegan yogurt, uh, because there was a breakfast thing at work, and but I came in late.
00:24:17
Sammi
Uh-huh.
00:24:21
Steve
So there was only vegan yogurt, but that's beside the point.
00:24:24
Sammi
What brand was it?
00:24:24
Steve
It was, I was silk. And, uh, yeah, I would agree after I tasted it.
00:24:26
Sammi
Oh, that's my least favorite vegan yogurt brand.
00:24:30
Steve
I was like.
00:24:30
Sammi
<unk> i've I wrote a really bad review on that like 12 years ago.
00:24:35
Steve
Yeah, no, I, I, they should call it paste. Uh, but I opened it and I don't know why, but like, I just opened it and it literally exploded all over me.
00:24:44
Sammi
Hmm.
00:24:45
Steve
And I, and it was, so I just had like, it's, it's still all over my, my shirt. So I just walked around as vegan yogurt boy all day, but what are you gonna do?
00:24:53
Sammi
uh nobody likes vegan yogurt boy yeah
00:24:56
Steve
Nobody likes vegan yogurt boy. and And then after it exploded all over me, I'm like, wow, there's still three quarters of this left. So I'm going to eat it. And I took one, but I'm like, this fucking sucks.
00:25:03
Sammi
Yeah, it's my least favorite brand. So for those who don't know, one of my side, side, side things is I have a ah yeah, and a terry free blog that I've started in 2013.
00:25:09
Steve
Oh, wow. You got a side hustle. That's so weird for you.
00:25:16
Sammi
And most of what I review is yogurt for I don't know what reason. I think it's just because they can be so bad. um So I started ah reviewing all the vegan yogurts that i've tried and silk was like my first review and i was like i hated it it was terrible um so delicious is really good um if you like if you like something a little bit thicker like i kind of like like the greek yogurt islandic yogurt like yeah something like that um then i would go for oh what is it called it's like coconut
00:25:37
Steve
Hmm.
00:25:43
Steve
Yeah, take with three C's.
00:25:51
Sammi
coconut collaborative or something like that, coconut collective. um I just had recently and also. um Coolina is really good, and that stuff is like not as sweet, but then you can like add stuff to it, which I like, but that shit's like, you know, sometimes it's like pretty expensive.
00:26:10
Steve
No.
00:26:10
Sammi
You know, and if you're getting out of the one to two dollar yogurt territory real fast. It's like six dollars for a little thing of yogurt, but it's
00:26:18
Steve
That's a bit much.
00:26:19
Sammi
But it's really good. It's really good. You know, so it's like I'll get them for myself as like a little treat. You know what I mean? Like, especially Colina. That shit's super expensive, but it's really good.
00:26:28
Steve
Bougie. You go to the arrow on to buy that, Sammy.
00:26:30
Sammi
Yeah.
00:26:32
Sammi
Dude, I wish I mean, I would I would be someone who would go there, but I would buy like one thing, you know, and then.
00:26:38
Steve
$30 jug of water.
00:26:40
Sammi
Yeah. And I'd be like, this is amazing. um But yeah, I don't know what I don't know why the Koolena so expensive, but it is so good. Koolena sponsor us because I'm obsessed with your yogurt.
00:26:51
Steve
Yeah I need good vegan yogurt.
00:26:52
Sammi
I really am. There's something about it that's like. I don't know, because it yeah, it's like it feels like a dessert, you know, so it's it's really nice.
00:27:02
Sammi
I don't know if it meets the standard of identity for yogurt. But anyway, that's a question for my food science friends. OK, so OK, Parisa comes in. She doesn't say a lot, although she's the one she's like the crystal um PowerPoint person.
00:27:20
Sammi
Right. That comes in later.
00:27:21
Steve
Yeah, I love her.
00:27:22
Sammi
OK, but when.
00:27:23
Steve
She's from Birmingham, Michigan, which means she's got money.
00:27:23
Sammi
Yeah, me. Yeah.
00:27:26
Steve
Okay, so that's good. She's like, here's my rock collection, but it's just like a bunch of like crystals and shit.
00:27:32
Sammi
Yeah.
00:27:32
Steve
And then she's just like laying with her rocks. And then she's like, the best way for me to make a good impression is to build a PowerPoint with creepy photoshops and weird AI stuff.
00:27:45
Steve
And then just like be like, Here's our babies. Here's what our wedding looks like. Totally normal stuff. She's amazing. 10 out of 10.
00:27:53
Sammi
My favorite quote of the whole night was, I thought he liked my PowerPoint.
00:27:58
Steve
Yeah.
00:27:59
Sammi
When she's like standing there in the row ceremony she's like, I thought he liked my PowerPoint, and now I just don't know I think I made a mistake.
00:28:02
Steve
No, literally. In my notes, I write, I wrote PowerPoint girl dash Sammy core.
00:28:12
Sammi
ah hundred percent
00:28:13
Steve
Make it a PowerPoint for a man is the most Sammy ass thing you can do.
00:28:13
Sammi
ah here's
00:28:17
Sammi
Here's another thing that you need to know about me, friends. um And Steve has participated in this in the past. I used to do um like Ignite talks. So those were like five minute PowerPoint talks, like 20 slides, five minutes, whatever.
00:28:30
Sammi
And I was like the official like Milwaukee branch until this guy tried to snake it from me and then try to take my email. And I said, I'm not giving you my email.
00:28:38
Steve
but
00:28:39
Sammi
So I don't know. I don't even think he did anything with him. And he was from Chicago. So it was on principle.
00:28:42
Steve
Oh, no, do it down there.
00:28:43
Sammi
So I said, no, because he didn't even live. yeah I was like, you're not even from here. Like, what are you doing?
00:28:47
Steve
You jerk.
00:28:48
Sammi
Yeah, I was like he was trying to do Chicago and Milwaukee at the same time, so I just like never gave it to him anyway.
00:28:51
Steve
No,
00:28:53
Sammi
So I mean, he can still technically do it, but he doesn't get the email that I got from Google for free.
00:28:56
Steve
yeah
00:28:59
Sammi
Like, I don't know, whatever, by a domain domain.
00:29:00
Steve
no no.
00:29:02
Sammi
Anyway, um but one of the things I started to do that became really popular was um PowerPoint karaoke. which was an idea that I like it's not my idea like came from somebody else.
00:29:09
Steve
Favorite.
00:29:13
Sammi
where But basically what you do is you put up a bunch of PowerPoint slides. You don't tell the person what the topic is before they get up there. And then they have to make up a five minute talk based on the slides that are happening behind them.
00:29:25
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah It
00:29:25
Sammi
um So I would just do themes like I don't know, like how to be a good friend or like how to be really good looking or whatever. And then they would just like talk. And so Steve did what I don't remember which one you did.
00:29:37
Sammi
But ah
00:29:37
Steve
was not like animals it was not like sloths or something
00:29:40
Sammi
Yeah, I would just do like yeah, it would just be like all animals all glamour shots all whatever and then they'd have to talk Yeah every 15 seconds.
00:29:45
Steve
Yeah. And then the slides like would automatically change like every 30 seconds. And then you just have to roll with it or 15 seconds. There you go.
00:29:51
Sammi
Yeah.
00:29:51
Steve
Yeah.
00:29:51
Sammi
Yeah, it was so yeah, it was like Really oh my god
00:29:52
Steve
It was great. it's It's like my favorite thing that I've ever done. It's yeah. Like I, I was literally, if I have no applicable skills in life, except for whatever that is.
00:30:03
Sammi
Well, it's funny because I've been trying like I've been meaning to start something up here. So, OK, you've given given me the confidence to like get it going.
00:30:10
Steve
Yes.
00:30:11
Sammi
But it's so funny because I used to do it was like those were just space fillers. So like if people dropped out last minute and like they couldn't do their talk and I had people talk about like going on dinosaur digs and doing ultra marathons and like all kinds of stuff.
00:30:25
Sammi
Like someone talked about like their divorce, like, you know, it was just like whatever they want to talk about. They could come talk about for five minutes and um I thought that that would be like the bigger draw than PowerPoint karaoke.
00:30:36
Sammi
And then it ended up being that like by the end, the last event I had planned, it was going to be everyone's doing PowerPoint karaoke because it became the most popular thing we did.
00:30:44
Steve
Yeah.
00:30:48
Sammi
um But that actually got canceled because it was in April 2020. So yeah.
00:30:52
Steve
I was going to say, yeah, i I was, I was all hyped up for that.
00:30:55
Sammi
Like you were signed up.
00:30:55
Steve
Cause I was going to do, yeah, I was signed up to do it.
00:30:56
Sammi
Yeah, you were going to do it again. Yeah.
00:30:57
Steve
And then we got pandemic. I was like, damn it.
00:31:00
Sammi
Yeah. So anyway, so 2025 maybe will be the year of when I resurrect PowerPoint karaoke, but I highly encourage you to do it. It is not my idea. I do not own it. And as long as you're not from Chicago, feel free.
00:31:12
Steve
Yeah. But if you're from Chicago, you can't have it.
00:31:13
Sammi
isated You're not allowed to have it.
00:31:15
Steve
Not for you.
00:31:16
Sammi
Yeah, not for you. But yeah, it was so fun. So yeah, as soon like I was like, I wanted to make fun of her for that. I'm like, that's literally me. So I would just be hating myself.
00:31:25
Steve
Right.
00:31:26
Sammi
She's like, check out my crystals and like my power white. And I'm like, that's like, yeah, that's kind of um the intersection of me.
00:31:31
Steve
Nope.
00:31:36
Sammi
Did I talk about Grand Theft Hamlet, by the way?
00:31:38
Steve
No, I don't know what that is.
00:31:39
Sammi
Oh, my gosh. OK, sorry, not to get us so far off track, but that's what this podcast is anyway. It doesn't really matter.
00:31:44
Steve
Hmm.
00:31:45
Sammi
um Friends, if you um I think AMC has it. I know Alamo has it. I don't know for how much longer. um If you have a movie subscription, you can watch it, um which you should.
00:31:57
Sammi
Like that's one of the best streaming services. um Grand Theft Hamlet is playing and it's all about these two friends um and one of them, his wife is a documentary filmmaker, um super handy. um This was during like a later lockdown um in the UK. They decided to reenact Hamlet inside of Grand Theft Auto online.
00:32:24
Sammi
It's my favorite movie. um I'm like, I don't know. This could be best movie of 2025 for me. I mean, it's early. So there's a lot of other things that could take its place. But ah yeah, I just I think my review is like amazing use of free will and humans are incredible.
00:32:38
Steve
No.
00:32:38
Sammi
um And people are like, I don't know. It seems a little staged to me. I'm like, do you know how hard it is to like create anything like to do that inside of a video game, the technical That's so I don't even care if some of the conversations are staged.
00:32:51
Steve
Yeah.
00:32:52
Sammi
Do you think I care? Like that's so impressive.
00:32:54
Steve
Yeah. It doesn't matter at any moment.
00:32:55
Sammi
Yeah, it was so cool.
00:32:56
Steve
Someone could just like, I don't know, like roll up on a Vespa and shoot you. I mean, that's, it's a real risk.
00:33:00
Sammi
That's exactly what happened. Yeah, it was so fun. So like they'd be doing the serious scene and they had to get bodyguards so that they wouldn't get shot while they were like delivering a soliloquy.
00:33:11
Sammi
It's like, you don't think that's awesome? like I don't know.
00:33:14
Steve
Yeah.
00:33:15
Sammi
So I was like, that's the exact intersection of my interest. like Grand Theft Hamlet.
00:33:18
Steve
Oh,
00:33:19
Sammi
like Shakespeare and video games like I was like, this is so cool.
00:33:23
Steve
yeah.
00:33:24
Sammi
ah Anyway, so go watch that or watch it on movie if you can. I that was my first five star review of the year. I like no notes. I really loved it. Um, okay. Anyway.
00:33:35
Sammi
Oh, Carolina. That was one of the dresses I loved.
00:33:39
Steve
Okay.
00:33:39
Sammi
That one that was like, I don't know how to describe it, but it was like, it had like waves coming off of it. You know what I'm talking about? It was like all the, yeah, that dress was so like, as soon as she walked out of the limo, I went, whoa, that's cool.
00:33:46
Steve
Yes, yes. Oh, she looked great. Yeah.
00:33:54
Sammi
Yeah, Carolina, really pretty, um great dress, and pretty funny. She was like, she's like, Oh, yeah, my last boyfriend was a DJ. So like, basically, only go up from here.
00:34:07
Sammi
It's fine.
00:34:08
Steve
Yeah.
00:34:09
Sammi
um So she's self deprecating. We like that. I don't know. I like her. I think she'll probably make it pretty far.
00:34:14
Steve
Oh yeah, I think so.
00:34:15
Sammi
Um, yeah, she seems like really good. Um, Ellie Jo, uh, brought in the pizza. She's like Jersey girl. She kind of reminds me of Topanga a little bit. I was like, she's like the Jersey version of Topanga.
00:34:24
Steve
Oh yeah, she's very like Italian core, like this she's very like Jersey Shore.
00:34:26
Sammi
Yeah.
00:34:29
Steve
She was just like, my personality is Italy, but America, which is going to be weird because there's another like Italian girl who rolls in from Boston at some point later.
00:34:30
Sammi
Yeah.
00:34:39
Steve
So.
00:34:40
Sammi
Oh yeah. Was that Juliana or yeah.
00:34:42
Steve
Yeah, I think so. So I don't know if they're going to like team up and be buds or if they're going to have like Italy beef with each other, but yeah, Italian beef.
00:34:48
Sammi
Italian beef. Sorry.
00:34:51
Steve
I just did a grant or not a grant, but whoever dreamed was just like, your wish is grant.
00:34:53
Sammi
Oh, your wish is grand.
00:34:59
Steve
ah
00:35:00
Sammi
um And then oh, yeah. And then we get Dina and she is an attorney. Her parents are from Romania. She's one of 11 children.
00:35:11
Steve
Oh, my God, Dina.
00:35:11
Sammi
I don't know how many ah what of ah of children ah Latias, but I know Dina is one of 11 and she's like,
00:35:17
Steve
I like Dina because she seems very no nonsense. And I feel like she's going to cause a lot of conflict because her whole personality is just like, Hi, I'm Dina.
00:35:20
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:35:25
Steve
I live in Chicago and I'm a hot bitch. So everybody watch out. like Okay.
00:35:30
Sammi
Well, and also she's like, she's like my parents like my parents and my family have these expectations, but they know I do my own thing. So obviously she's like done her own thing for a really long time. So she's got that headstrong quality.
00:35:40
Steve
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:43
Sammi
So either like, yeah, she'll make friends or she won't. I don't know.
00:35:47
Steve
No steamroll people.
00:35:47
Sammi
We'll see what happens. Yeah. Um, we've,
00:35:50
Steve
So start beefing with the Italians.
00:35:52
Sammi
Yeah, um we've got Radhika. She does a Bollywood dance as she enters. People started coming really fast and then I ah my notes are not so good. Alicia is the one with the genie in the bottle that says I wish might be Grant.
00:36:04
Sammi
um Natalie is a PhD student from Kentucky. She was the psychology, psychology, psychology.
00:36:11
Steve
Yes.
00:36:11
Sammi
OK, she brought worry stones and then she did that like breathing exercise later. um Beverly was almost in Miss Dominican Republic and she brought war sash, which was nice.
00:36:22
Sammi
And then she flipped it around and said, Mrs. Ellis. I was like, oh, sneaky.
00:36:25
Steve
There we go. Good little bit.
00:36:27
Sammi
um The only thing I posted on Blue Sky, I am going to try the live post, but Monday was a dumpster fire. And I did. I had I was so behind on work. I had to get shit done. I had to do academic things.
00:36:38
Sammi
Um, but the only thing I posted on our blue sky so far, it was like an out of context bachelor reference. And it was, uh, from, uh, the emperor's new group.
00:36:48
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:36:48
Sammi
And it was like, he's supposed to be dead. That's the only thing that I did.
00:36:51
Steve
Yeah.
00:36:54
Sammi
So, uh, yeah, so we have, uh, Alex, isn't it, is it still pronounced Alex despite the extra E, right? I think, yeah, it's just a French Canadian thing.
00:37:01
Steve
Yes, yes. who
00:37:03
Sammi
Um, so um Alex comes in with a no drama llama and they were like, is it a llama? Is it an alpaca? I don't know.
00:37:10
Steve
Well, and then she's walking in and Grant's like, is that a donkey or have you ever seen a donkey in your life?
00:37:14
Sammi
yeah Okay. Yeah. Maybe a little, a little low brain cell.
00:37:18
Steve
Alpaca or llama is a, that is a reasonable question.
00:37:21
Sammi
Those are reasonable guesses. And I saw it and I went, that's a llama. And then someone said alpaca.
00:37:25
Steve
or donkey versus mule, that's fine, but this is not a donkey, Grant.
00:37:28
Sammi
Sure, sure.
00:37:29
Steve
We're not, you're not in the correct, like, genus.
00:37:30
Sammi
Right. Well, to be fair, he's in Houston like you don't like it's just all cars. You don't see you don't see any donkeys.
00:37:36
Steve
Yeah, that's true. There's no animals.
00:37:39
Sammi
No animals. They have parks, but they just have dogs like.
00:37:40
Steve
Well, they got cars, they got freeways, they got strip malls, they got humidity. That's it.
00:37:45
Sammi
Yeah, that's what they got um and good food. I would be I would get in trouble.
00:37:50
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:37:50
Sammi
If any of my Houston people watch this, they'd be like, Sammy, we have also excellent food. Yes. OK, calm down.
00:37:56
Steve
optional
00:37:57
Sammi
It's fine. I had Peruvian. It was really great. It's really awesome.
00:38:00
Steve
and
00:38:01
Sammi
Um, but yeah, like, uh, I, when I saw the llama, I went, that's a llama. And then someone said, actually, that's an alpaca. And I'm like, Oh, I don't know anything. I'm so bad at this. And then, then she's like, this is a llama.
00:38:13
Sammi
And I was like, I knew it was a llama, but I like instantly questioned. I was like, I don't know what llamas look like.
00:38:19
Steve
Well, and let me tell you what I love about the llama.
00:38:19
Sammi
I don't belong here.
00:38:23
Steve
Normally, someone's like, Oh, I rode in on a horse or I brought a a dog or I brought a marmot or whatever.
00:38:29
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:38:30
Steve
And then the animal has to go away. But the llama was allowed to stay and
00:38:34
Sammi
Linda the Llama.
00:38:35
Steve
This brought me great joy because this was a very by the books first episode, nothing wild, just pretty standard stuff.
00:38:37
Sammi
she just Yeah.
00:38:43
Steve
So the fact that I had a little llama that they could keep like, you know, cutting back to to do reaction shots. I really enjoyed that. A very pro llama.
00:38:50
Sammi
I like that they're like, is she allowed to be in here?
00:38:54
Steve
Yeah, just walking around.
00:38:55
Sammi
Who is she? To call back to our special episode. um ah Juliana, yeah, so she is the one who brings in cannolis because she's like, I see your pizza and I raise you a cannoli.
00:39:10
Steve
Yep.
00:39:10
Sammi
In our city, we would say pepperoni cannoli, because that was kind of, go around with the cooler and sell pepperoni and cannolis to us at bars.
00:39:19
Steve
Sure. Yeah.
00:39:20
Sammi
You don't remember him?
00:39:22
Steve
No, I, I am very aware.
00:39:22
Sammi
Wait, do you know who I'm talking about?
00:39:24
Steve
It's like a Brady street thing.
00:39:24
Sammi
Okay.
00:39:25
Steve
Yeah.
00:39:25
Sammi
Yeah, he died though.
00:39:27
Steve
Oh, RIP.
00:39:27
Sammi
He was really old. OK, sorry. Anyway, not to bring down the room.
00:39:29
Steve
That's true.
00:39:30
Sammi
um So, OK, and then Chloe, we have Chloe. um She's a model and she's like a normal size person, but they call her plus size, but she's just a normal size human.
00:39:41
Sammi
So that's cool. But she's she seems cool. She seems cool until Chloe is one of the people I would hang out with from the show, like So far out of all the women, I would probably hang out with Chloe the the most, um especially because then we get ah where was the T-shirt cannon a little bit later?
00:39:58
Steve
Oh, that's Zoey and then Zoey and Chloe become BFFs Zoey is a goddess.
00:40:00
Sammi
Zoe.
00:40:04
Steve
Okay
00:40:04
Sammi
OK, that was my other favorite dress was Zoe's dress.
00:40:07
Steve
Yeah, of course it was.
00:40:08
Sammi
I was like, holy shit, what a cool dress.
00:40:10
Steve
I'm sorry. Yeah, Zoe could wear dish rags. I think she'd be fine.
00:40:13
Sammi
Yeah, Zoe's gorgeous.
00:40:14
Steve
She's like, hi, I have a job in tech, so I have money, but also I'm a model because look at me. I just strut around like I own the place. And I walk in with a t-shirt cannon. And coming from just a man's perspective, if a beautiful model with ah with a just shining smile on her face handed me a t-shirt cannon, I'd say, stop the show.
00:40:34
Steve
We're done. I would do a Claire Crowley. We're calling it.
00:40:36
Sammi
You're like this is it.
00:40:38
Steve
This is it.
00:40:38
Sammi
She's the one.
00:40:39
Steve
And then they get to shoot it over the mansion and they're just like dive bombing contestants with t-shirts?
00:40:42
Sammi
Yeah. I was like, I can't believe that they cleared this. I was so shocked that they allowed the T-shirt cannon to happen because me, too, because I'm like, well, I mean, you know, if it can kill Maude Flanders, you know, like it can definitely do some damage.
00:40:48
Steve
Yeah.
00:40:51
Steve
I was hoping it would break a window. that's That's where I was going. Yeah.
00:40:57
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:40:59
Sammi
So I was actually surprised.
00:41:00
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:41:02
Sammi
But yeah, that was so fun because I'm like, Chloe is so cool because she was the only one who put the shirt on. Like she was just like, oh, hell yeah.
00:41:08
Steve
Yeah.
00:41:09
Sammi
Free shirt with someone else's face on it. I'm cool with it. and she And then, yeah, and then she's like, who is this? And she's like, you almost took us out and they hug and stuff. And so, yeah, I'm pro Chloe.
00:41:19
Sammi
I'm pro Zoe. um I'm into the always in this house. They both seem very cool. ah So, okay. Oh, and then Bailey is the social media manager.
00:41:30
Sammi
She did something later. Oh, yeah. She did the Bob.
00:41:33
Steve
Took a selfie.
00:41:33
Sammi
She brought, she brought Bob's. Do you remember? She brought those wigs.
00:41:37
Steve
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. She's like, okay, we're going to try out wigs. He's like, it's itchy. And then later she's like, maybe I shouldn't have brought wigs.
00:41:43
Sammi
and
00:41:45
Steve
i Maybe.
00:41:47
Sammi
She's like, yeah, she's like, she's like, it's a Bob moment. Yeah, it was funny because they're like, we're going to let you have this phone. um And ah you know, but only but it looked like not a smartphone, right? It's like, here's this like old school football phone you can take pictures with.
00:42:03
Sammi
And she's like, because I'm in social media, I have to take pictures.
00:42:06
Steve
but i now
00:42:07
Sammi
Yeah, yeah, it was fun. It was a fun little segment. Let's see. Wait, I missed. I lost all my notes. Oh, oh, I got interrupted by Grant's head carried by Sarafina.
00:42:18
Sammi
She brought in this giant cardboard cutout of Grant's head.
00:42:21
Steve
Very large. It's like a six foot tall, or probably not six feet, but close to it.
00:42:22
Sammi
Yeah.
00:42:25
Steve
Just the big.
00:42:25
Sammi
That costs a lot of money. those like I remember one time we were trying to price out a cardboard cutout for someone's retirement and it was too expensive, so we just got a tabletop version. We were like, we would rather spend the money on like gift cards that he will use like for stuff he likes.
00:42:38
Steve
Yeah.
00:42:41
Steve
Oh, sure.
00:42:42
Sammi
So we were like, You're just going to get it. We're not going to spend $400 on like a cardboard cutout. You get a 12 inch version and we put it on like three tables.
00:42:53
Sammi
um Let's see. Oh, ah Christina from Fargo, North Dakota. She kind of reminded me of Kirsten Dunst a little bit. um Like her. She seems cool.
00:43:03
Steve
Yeah, but she I mean she doesn't she doesn't even make it out of the first round That's the thing is I saw her and I'm like, oh she seems like a normal gal.
00:43:07
Sammi
Yeah.
00:43:09
Steve
then I was like, oh no, she's in trouble already
00:43:09
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense that she didn't make it. Nisi is a pediatrician, and she's like, that shows I can commit to something for a long time. And I was like, that's true.
00:43:21
Steve
Mm-hmm She's the one who walked in with the ah the basketball jersey, right?
00:43:21
Sammi
um We have Kelsey. She's the interior designer from Brooklyn. Wait, was it? Wait, no, I can't remember what name. Hold on. um Oh, no, Rebecca. OK.
00:43:34
Sammi
Oh, what did she?
00:43:35
Steve
Yeah, yeah
00:43:35
Sammi
OK, OK. Oh, where it was like name like on the front and she's like, and then it's our future name on the back. That was her. OK, I did not have detailed notes on that. OK, Savannah is the wedding planner.
00:43:47
Sammi
She brought in a wedding cake. Here's my qualm with Savannah. Why didn't you just share the wedding cake right away? Come on.
00:43:51
Steve
Yeah. well Nobody has eaten that.
00:43:53
Sammi
Was it real? Was it real cake?
00:43:55
Steve
It looked real because it had some weight to it.
00:43:56
Sammi
Yeah, that's what I thought.
00:43:57
Steve
Like she was like really struggling to carry the thing.
00:43:58
Sammi
Yeah, I didn't think she was like acting like.
00:43:59
Steve
So yeah.
00:44:01
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't like empty coffee cup. Bad acting either.
00:44:05
Steve
Yeah.
00:44:06
Sammi
um So it seemed real. ah Oh, Vicki. OK, Vicki comes in. She's a nightclub server and they're like, is she a battle girl? And I'm like, shut up.
00:44:13
Steve
Yeah.
00:44:14
Sammi
Shut up.
00:44:14
Steve
As a former shot boy, I am appalled that anyone would disparage the good name of a bottle girl.
00:44:19
Sammi
Yeah, she brought in like that fun sign. You know, you're just jealous.
00:44:24
Steve
Yeah.
00:44:25
Sammi
She just seems like fun.
00:44:27
Steve
Also, it's like the best job.
00:44:27
Sammi
I bet she will be.
00:44:28
Steve
You ever been a shot boy or a bottle girl or anything like that?
00:44:29
Sammi
Yeah.
00:44:31
Steve
What do you do? You give people free alcohol or you give them stuff that somebody else probably paid for and then they're really happy and they just give you large quantities of money.
00:44:34
Sammi
With sparklers coming out of it. Yeah.
00:44:41
Steve
They're like, here you go.
00:44:42
Sammi
Yeah. What's not to like?
00:44:43
Steve
What's not to like?
00:44:44
Sammi
Yeah, seriously.
00:44:45
Steve
Yeah.
00:44:45
Sammi
Well, I think she's going to be one of the people who will be like, let's play a game. Let's do this. I don't know. That's she's she definitely gives off like team building exercises, but not lame energy.
00:44:57
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:44:58
Sammi
I don't know. We'll see. um So I like her. Let's see. Oh, um then. OK, this is when the T-shirt cannon comes out. Yeah. Zoe. um Yeah, I said Zoe and Carolina, favorite dresses, um good vibes.
00:45:11
Sammi
And yeah, the t-shirt cannon was amazing. Then we get to the bop.
00:45:13
Steve
Oh, so great.
00:45:14
Sammi
Then comes Parisa's PowerPoint presentation. Yeah.
00:45:19
Steve
So great for us and not for Grant.
00:45:19
Sammi
um
00:45:21
Steve
Grant's just like, yeah. ah
00:45:23
Sammi
She's like, look, look at my slides. I thought she was going to do a dating rap, though. I thought she was going to be like, this is my dating rap 2023 or whatever.
00:45:28
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:45:29
Sammi
And I was like really looking forward to it.
00:45:30
Steve
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:31
Sammi
But anyway, it's fine. um Alicia. um Oh, they she gets one on one time. OK, this was a part that really bugged me because they brought up a movie.
00:45:42
Sammi
Do you remember this part?
00:45:44
Steve
No, wait, wait which which movie did they bring up?
00:45:45
Sammi
OK. The notebook. I'm like, no.
00:45:48
Steve
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they did bring up the notebook. Yes, yes.
00:45:50
Sammi
But of course, Grant's like, oh, yeah, I like the notebook. I'm like, you would like the notebook, Grant.
00:45:52
Steve
It's book every movie. Yeah, shut up, Grant.
00:45:54
Sammi
well often Like, no, but that's like, you know, of course that will work for some women, not me.
00:45:56
Steve
Don't even say that.
00:46:04
Steve
No.
00:46:04
Sammi
um So, yeah, of course.
00:46:06
Steve
It's just annoying because like you can pick another movie that is universally beloved by every woman.
00:46:07
Sammi
her
00:46:11
Steve
like I can sit here and say, I love When Harry Met Sally.
00:46:14
Sammi
It is so good.
00:46:14
Steve
and It's so good. It is like a perfect rom-com.
00:46:16
Sammi
It's such a good movie. Yes.
00:46:18
Steve
It is the template for the romantic comedy.
00:46:19
Sammi
Yes.
00:46:21
Steve
It is without flaws. And I can say that. What am I to say about the notebook? It's it's slop.
00:46:27
Sammi
Yes, exactly.
00:46:28
Steve
It's just sappy. It's so good.
00:46:29
Sammi
That's the thing. Yeah, it's like you could pick like, yeah, any any movie like one here, you meant Sally. And, you know, yeah, you'd get women being like, oh, my God, um I'm watching.
00:46:34
Steve
Yeah.
00:46:38
Sammi
ah This is a non-spoiler for the show Laid. Have you watched Laid, the American version?
00:46:43
Steve
No, I haven't.
00:46:44
Sammi
OK, so it's starring Stephanie Shue. I know at least you can watch it on Peacock. I don't know where else.
00:46:50
Steve
Okay.
00:46:50
Sammi
um But her character is very it's kind of reminds me of like um Mindy in like the early seasons of the Mindy project where you're like, God, you're so unlikable, but I just can't stop liking you.
00:47:03
Sammi
You know what I mean?
00:47:04
Steve
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:04
Sammi
Like, you're just like, wow, you suck, but I love you um is that's kind of like the vibe for her character. um But she's very obsessed with Billy Crystal.
00:47:15
Steve
I love that.
00:47:16
Sammi
Yeah, it's so
00:47:17
Steve
But not a lot of competition in that realm, like she can have them.
00:47:19
Sammi
Yeah, she's like so obsessed with Billy Crystal because you're talking about like 90s rom coms and she's like so obsessed with them and she's talking about like him and Meg Ryan, obviously. And then she would say, but she made an argument that she thought Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks didn't have good chemistry.
00:47:32
Sammi
And I'm like, are you kidding? Sleepless in Seattle and You've Got Mail are like my two other favorite. ro So what are you talking about?
00:47:38
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:47:40
Sammi
And Sleepless in Seattle makes me cry every time.
00:47:41
Steve
I Have issues with you've got mail because I'm just like why why do you want to like give up your dream for Jeff Bezos? Like I get so mad at it. Like I would never die.
00:47:50
Sammi
Yeah.
00:47:51
Steve
First of all, I would never date Jeff Bezos. I want everyone to know that right now Yeah, he keep he keeps asking and I'm like listen up you little Lex Luther looking motherfucker I'm not going to Applebee's with you
00:47:53
Sammi
Oh, OK, everybody, just so you know, in case you were wondering, he won't date Jeff Bezos.
00:48:08
Sammi
Applebee's, he is cheap and out, too, like he's not even taking you anywhere nice.
00:48:09
Steve
Yeah. yes He is, he is. Exactly.
00:48:13
Sammi
Oh, my God.
00:48:14
Steve
It's, it's, it's horrifying. You ever buy something on Amazon and you're like, this looks nice. And he just shows up and it's just like cheap crap. That's, that's him. That's his life.
00:48:20
Sammi
So that's at Applebee's.
00:48:21
Steve
He's like, I'm going to wine you and dine you. And it's, it's the house, red, it Applebee's and the the sizzling fajitas.
00:48:29
Sammi
Well, at least he got you fajitas.
00:48:31
Steve
Yeah, that's true.
00:48:33
Sammi
um That's so funny. No, I had to watch You've Got Mail in school, in grad school.
00:48:38
Steve
Hmm.
00:48:39
Sammi
Yeah, because I took What is the Internet?
00:48:41
Steve
Oh yeah. Classic Mike Newman show or class.
00:48:41
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:44
Steve
Yeah.
00:48:45
Sammi
Yeah. So we had to watch the net um ah war games and you've got mail for class.
00:48:51
Steve
Love it.
00:48:51
Sammi
Yeah.
00:48:52
Steve
Love it.
00:48:52
Sammi
And I wrote a paper on you've got mail.
00:48:52
Steve
Love it.
00:48:54
Sammi
Yeah, so that's and then I use that New Yorker caption, but I changed it. And so I was like, on the Internet, nobody knows you're a fox. And I was like, really proud of that ah title.
00:49:05
Steve
Good.
00:49:05
Sammi
It's really proud of it. That's like one of my favorite papers I've ever written. You've got mail.
00:49:09
Steve
yeah
00:49:10
Sammi
So anyway, so not to say that I would choose that because, yeah, I mean, I someday, hopefully will own a cute storybook you know bookstore, storybook bookstore.
00:49:21
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:49:23
Sammi
We won't call it that.
00:49:24
Steve
Storybook star.
00:49:24
Sammi
but No, I think I want it to be all horror books.
00:49:25
Steve
We'll call it Storybook Star.
00:49:29
Sammi
I think I want to do like an all horror bookstore. I think that would be fun.
00:49:33
Steve
Yeah, Sammy's Spooky Dome.
00:49:33
Sammi
You know, yeah.
00:49:35
Steve
Come on down.
00:49:38
Steve
We're workshopping that.
00:49:39
Sammi
Spooks, spooks and books.
00:49:41
Steve
Spooks and books.
00:49:43
Sammi
You have to say it in a ghost voice for it to sound good.
00:49:46
Steve
Yeah, it literally says, in parentheses up above the side, it says, ghost boy, spooks and books.
00:49:49
Sammi
Spooks and books.
00:49:53
Steve
Be great. See, this is a million dollar business idea. Any potential clients out there?
00:49:56
Sammi
Yeah, thank you.
00:49:57
Steve
ah
00:49:58
Sammi
Thank you. All my favorite ideas are not lucrative. That's what I will say. They are not ah ah profitable in any sense. OK, so um oh, Juliana comes out next and has like one on one time.
00:50:15
Sammi
um Her family is ah so picturesque. It's ridiculous.
00:50:21
Steve
Yeah, I would argue.
00:50:21
Sammi
They're like singing row row row your boat in the car or something like that.
00:50:24
Steve
Yeah.
00:50:24
Sammi
I can't remember what song some some public domain song they sang in the car.
00:50:25
Steve
Little, little too good. Little too good. Yeah.
00:50:30
Sammi
um They're like, we're doing karaoke, everybody. Here we go.
00:50:33
Steve
Well, I'm like, seems a little wholesome.
00:50:33
Sammi
And then it was like. Yeah, it was a little um but, you know, whatever. um Yeah, I said they're cheesy and sweet, I guess. um But she gets a she gets a kiss.
00:50:44
Sammi
um So wait, who else? Oh, Alicia. And she was the one who was like, well, I'm like my kids on the first day. And they're like, they're like, that's foreshadowing. They said that to her face.
00:50:52
Steve
Yeah.
00:50:53
Sammi
And she was like, no, I'm totally not going to do that. And they're like, it's always the one who says they're not going to do it. Who does it? And they were right.
00:51:00
Steve
And they were right. And then she's immediately like, I didn't even do that.
00:51:01
Sammi
Yeah.
00:51:04
Steve
It's like, what did you, you just did it. What do you, after talking about not doing it, we saw it.
00:51:06
Sammi
Yeah, it's like we we all saw it. um Anyway, so and then, yeah, he talks to Carolina for a while. There's like a montage. Oh, and this is when Taylor comes in and they're like, a new girl, who is she?
00:51:18
Steve
Yeah.
00:51:18
Sammi
And then um and then they're like, and then they're like, I need advice.
00:51:19
Steve
Vagina first.
00:51:22
Sammi
I need to know. OK, I got to make her like me. um And then oh, and then, yeah, Latia spends a lot of time talking to Taylor and then she spends more time with Grant and they kiss.
00:51:34
Sammi
And I was like, wow, no garments and kissing like that. OK, Mormon anyway, no garments.
00:51:37
Steve
Mmm interesting.
00:51:41
Sammi
That was my favorite part of Secret Lives and Mormon wise when they made fun of Jen for not bringing garments on her trip. And she's like, I know it's so bad.
00:51:51
Steve
It's really naughty of me.
00:51:52
Sammi
She's like, I'm sorry. I just she's like, they were trying and I forgot. um And they're like, they were like, no garments on the girls trip.
00:51:56
Steve
Mmm.
00:52:00
Sammi
And they're like, you're going to have a low cut dress. And she's like, it was so funny. um I like it when Jen's a little, little bad.
00:52:09
Steve
well flostered Yeah.
00:52:10
Sammi
Oh, God, it's so funny. OK. Alex, I keep saying like, ah like I'm going to say Alexa, but it's just Alex.
00:52:16
Steve
Yeah. Don't say Alexa. Oh, now I'm doing it. Now it's like everybody's, everybody's, uh, little smart devices are going to go off.
00:52:18
Sammi
Sorry, I don't have one. Yeah.
00:52:23
Sammi
Alexa, play pop culture diner.
00:52:28
Sammi
Um, anyway, so sorry if that did something.
00:52:29
Steve
I have no regrets.
00:52:31
Sammi
Uh, so, oh yeah, this was interesting. So Alex was like, I'm going to have you say stuff in French. And then this was funny. Like, I don't know what movie this reminds me of, but it reminds me of some kind of movie.
00:52:42
Sammi
Cause it's like Grant starts pronouncing things in French. And then he's surprised that he, at at least to my ears, had very good pronunciation. It sounded very good. And he was like, he was like, said it. And then he was like, whoa, it was like those movies where someone like just starts speaking like, you know, fluent Mandarin.
00:52:54
Steve
Oh,
00:52:57
Sammi
And they're like, I I didn't know I knew how to do that.
00:52:57
Steve
oh yeah.
00:52:58
Sammi
Like, it was kind of like that.
00:53:00
Steve
It's the secret talent convincingly French.
00:53:01
Sammi
You know what I mean? Yeah, not like a specific movie, but like, you know, I think they even did that.
00:53:03
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:53:06
Sammi
They did that in Wayne's World. um So yeah, that was interesting. um But yeah, it's like he even kind of had the sounds, you know, so it was pretty good. um Then we get yeah Vicky.
00:53:17
Sammi
Right. Wait, Vicky. Right. Is that the Vegas girl?
00:53:20
Sammi
Is that her name? Vicky. Yeah. Vicky nightclub server. So she comes in. She's got one on one time. She brings bottles with sparklers and she gets a kiss because that's pageantry. um And then and then Zoe is so confident, too.
00:53:20
Steve
m Yes.
00:53:35
Sammi
She was like, I just let all the other women have time.
00:53:36
Steve
Oh, yeah.
00:53:38
Sammi
It's fine.
00:53:39
Steve
Yeah. But I mean, how could she?
00:53:40
Sammi
Now I'm just relaxing.
00:53:41
Steve
Yeah, she's literally just like, look at me and you're like, yeah, okay.
00:53:43
Sammi
Yeah, and she's like, I'm obviously going to get attention.
00:53:43
Steve
Yeah, you win.
00:53:45
Sammi
And he's like, you sure are. And she's like, that's what I figured. Plus, I already showed you a t-shirt cannon. So it's in the bag for this week.
00:53:51
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:53:52
Sammi
I'm not worried about it.
00:53:53
Steve
Yeah, she's my pick.
00:53:54
Sammi
um
00:53:54
Steve
Like if I had to pick like an instant final four right now.
00:53:57
Sammi
Yeah.
00:53:57
Steve
Done.
00:53:58
Sammi
she's a good choice and yeah and then um yeah Dina I think also and maybe Parisa and maybe Latia I think those would be the four that I would probably pick in terms of women who made a big impression on me and I think on Grant um let's see so then okay
00:53:58
Steve
Done. She's in Senator hometowns.
00:54:05
Steve
Yeah.
00:54:11
Steve
Okay. Mm hmm.
00:54:20
Sammi
Yeah, this was interesting, too. OK, so Savannah's like, here I come with a cake. Right. And she's walking around and then and then I think it's with and he's with Natalie and they start kissing.
00:54:31
Sammi
And Savannah's got the cake and she sees them. And then she's like, oh, and then they just cut to commercial. And when they come back, none of that is happening anymore.
00:54:39
Steve
Nope, nope. Savannah got, she got steamrolled.
00:54:42
Sammi
Savannah got nothing. um That was weird.
00:54:44
Steve
I felt so bad for her.
00:54:46
Sammi
Yeah, she was just like, oh, it was
Humorous Bachelor Moments and Activities
00:54:50
Sammi
gone.
00:54:50
Steve
Yeah.
00:54:50
Sammi
And then she didn't come back. I was like, that was weird.
00:54:51
Steve
Literally, literally, like, oaped her way out of week one in the Bachelor mansion.
00:54:54
Sammi
Yes. It was so weird.
00:54:56
Steve
Just see you later.
00:54:57
Sammi
She should have. See, that's what I'm saying. She should have just come in and been like, let's all eat cake. Like that would have been the way to go.
00:55:03
Steve
who
00:55:04
Sammi
She would have gotten more time, even if she didn't get time with him. We would remember her more anyway. It was very funny. um Then Rose is like, let's manifest. And I'm like, let's not. um But she's like, we're going to do clay and blindfolding and let's make rings.
00:55:19
Sammi
And then sure.
00:55:20
Steve
Sure. Yeah. like Yeah.
00:55:22
Sammi
And she's like, it's like ghosts. I'm like, I guess, but not really.
00:55:24
Steve
If ghost is weird. diets Yeah.
00:55:28
Sammi
If Gus was with someone you just met, and you were blindfolded, and they weren't behind you, they were next to you, and you were working on your own projects instead of one project, and Whoopi Goldberg isn't there.
00:55:32
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:55:35
Steve
Yeah. If ghost is like. Yeah, what if ghost is a different movie? but
00:55:42
Sammi
So, it's not like Gus at all.
00:55:44
Steve
Not too ghosty.
00:55:44
Sammi
Anyway.
00:55:45
Steve
Yeah.
00:55:46
Sammi
Yeah, not that ghosty. um So, yeah, but um whatever. They make clay rings, they kiss, blah, blah, blah.
First Impressions and Roses
00:55:52
Sammi
um Alex gets the first impression rose that didn't surprise me either.
00:55:56
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:55:56
Sammi
Although, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. um I need to see more from Alex. I like the llama, though, like I'm not going to lie.
00:56:03
Steve
We do love a llama Yeah.
00:56:04
Sammi
So that was good. I think she did leave a good first impression. She was like one of the only people who brought like, yeah, any kind of
00:56:11
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:56:11
Sammi
s thing with her like you know she had like the biggest gimmick and it was a good one um okay these are the names that i wrote down um who got roses i think i got everybody i think uh rose zoe ella natalie allie joe juliana vicki carolina beverly bailey dina
00:56:22
Steve
Okay.
00:56:37
Sammi
Chloe and I wrote, yes, because I really like Chloe. Rebecca, Rebecca looks like she was going to poop a couple of times. Did you notice she was like she had like a furrowed brow and I was like, she like I don't know.
00:56:46
Steve
Yeah.
00:56:50
Sammi
She seemed very uncomfortable.
00:56:51
Steve
Girls are sweating on this one.
00:56:52
Sammi
um Yeah.
00:56:53
Steve
Parisa was sweating bullets. She was like, I power pointed too close to the sun.
00:56:55
Sammi
Yeah, well, Teresa had, I think a couple of them. Well, which one? Oh gosh, I'm trying to remember who it was. It was like, I'm doing great. I'm feeling great. And I was like, yeah, yeah, it's getting late at night.
00:57:06
Sammi
It's getting late at night. Had a couple extra drinks. They're like, I'm doing awesome.
00:57:09
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:57:11
Sammi
Um, can't remember who that was. Um, but yeah, I was like, oh, I don't know. If, if, uh, Courtney was on this season, she would tell us if Rebecca had to poop, but she's not on the season.
00:57:20
Steve
yeah
00:57:21
Sammi
So she won't.
00:57:22
Steve
no
00:57:22
Sammi
Uh, cause she, I mean, she had um several chapters about poop, uh, Sarafina, Alicia, and, oh, and then. So then Jesse comes in and he does like final rose ASMR.
00:57:34
Sammi
He was whispering so much at the end of this episode. Did you notice that he was just like, ladies, this is the final rose tonight.
00:57:38
Steve
Yeah. This is it, ladies.
00:57:40
Sammi
Whenever you're ready. He's like, Grant, how are you feeling? And I was like, he's right now. You can just talk to it. Like it was weird.
00:57:47
Steve
Yeah, it's fine, man.
00:57:47
Sammi
It was very weird. He was like, how's it going? Is everything okay? And I was like, did Jesse like blow out his vocal cords or something? it Like it was just weird.
00:57:55
Steve
Got to touch the laryngitis.
00:57:56
Sammi
Like, he never does that. Like, he speaks softly, but he just completely whispered at the end of this episode.
00:58:01
Steve
Hmm.
00:58:03
Sammi
It's very weird. um Yeah. And then, yeah, Parisa gets the final rose.
00:58:07
Steve
I think it does.
00:58:08
Sammi
Thank goodness. we he i thought I thought he liked my PowerPoint. um and then And then we see a clip at the end, you know, all the stuff. And I don't know.
00:58:18
Sammi
They like kind of hint like is Grant going to be
Contestant Predictions and Biographies
00:58:21
Sammi
the next Brad?
00:58:21
Steve
Hmm.
00:58:22
Sammi
Don't know. Don't know.
00:58:23
Steve
We don't know.
00:58:24
Sammi
Like this is wild. I mean, if the clip is to be believed, which it usually isn't, we know this.
00:58:29
Steve
no Yeah.
00:58:29
Sammi
um But he was like, Jesse was like, Grant, we need to know who you want to come down first. Because like that means they lose, right? And he's like, I you know, the thing is, I just don't know.
00:58:42
Steve
Mmm.
00:58:44
Sammi
So I don't know. I don't know. um
00:58:47
Steve
Hard to say.
00:58:49
Sammi
Yeah, any any like bold predictions? We didn't go through a lot of the bios either.
00:58:54
Steve
No, I don't think I have any like major predictions other than like Initially just my first impression is Zoe McGrady is an unstoppable freight train and She's gonna roll into the final rose station.
00:58:54
Sammi
um
00:59:00
Sammi
Mm-hmm.
00:59:11
Steve
That is that is my only prediction And I can never pick a winner though
00:59:12
Sammi
You're usually really good at figuring out like who's gonna make it super duper far. I feel like you're really good at that. um and Yeah, but I have just blinders on, because I'm like, they're my favorite, and why wouldn't everybody love them?
00:59:24
Steve
yeah Yeah, I love her. Why doesn't he love her?
00:59:27
Sammi
That's always my problem, but I know it's my problem, so I know I'm not good at predicting.
00:59:28
Steve
Yeah.
00:59:31
Sammi
um Let's see. OK, here's some of Zoe's. Let's go through a couple of bios, at least, before we close. Zoe isn't afraid to go after what she wants.
00:59:41
Sammi
We know this. And what she wants right now is to find her Prince Charming. Zoe is super impressive. It's like you wrote this bio. ah
00:59:49
Steve
Yeah.
00:59:49
Sammi
and that's not just because she graduated from Duke University with a degree in mechanical engineering.
00:59:54
Steve
Amazing.
00:59:55
Sammi
ah Very impressive. When she's not working, she likes to adventure outdoors with activities like boating, jet skiing, surfing and ice skating. All seasons, all seasons you're covered.
01:00:06
Steve
who
01:00:06
Sammi
ah Zoe loves cooking fancy dinners for her partner when she's in love. So hopefully Grant's ready to be surprised with tasty tokens of her affection.
01:00:16
Steve
Yeah.
01:00:16
Sammi
She wants
01:00:16
Steve
Okay. So she, she can cook too. This is great.
01:00:18
Sammi
Yes, she wants to.
01:00:19
Steve
What else?
01:00:20
Sammi
Yeah, she's she's got it all. She wants to meet a man with transparency who is supportive and as committed as she is. Go get him, Zoe. um Nothing makes Zoe happier than puppies and babies.
01:00:33
Sammi
You're like Zoe can't and won't. She can't and won't live without tacos.
01:00:39
Steve
Bear.
01:00:40
Sammi
Don't make her do it. um Zoe was the first female wrestler to join her high school wrestling team.
01:00:42
Steve
Bear.
01:00:45
Steve
What?
01:00:45
Sammi
Oh, my God. It's like.
01:00:49
Sammi
that The end.
01:00:52
Steve
The end.
01:00:53
Sammi
Everybody go home.
01:00:54
Steve
11 out of 10, no notes.
01:00:57
Sammi
You're like, I don't know about the babies and puppies thing, but everything else I can live with it.
01:00:59
Steve
Now.
01:01:02
Sammi
Oh, my gosh. I also just realized Chloe spells her name a little different, like it's O.I.E.
01:01:08
Steve
Yeah, it's like Claude Loy.
01:01:09
Sammi
That's fun. OK, so so she lives in New York, but you can totally tell Chloe's a Midwesterner like you can pick that up very quickly. um This Midwest beauty moved to to the Big Apple to chase her dreams of being a fashion model. Her dreams came true when she landed her first major brand campaign, and there's been no turning back since when she's not working it in front of the camera. Chloe enjoys hosting dinner parties or watching romcom classics like You've Got Mail and When Harry Met Sally.
01:01:36
Steve
Hmm. There you go.
01:01:38
Sammi
There we go. She's looking for someone who is family oriented, ready to settle drop down and dreams of having so many kids that could form a basketball team.
01:01:39
Steve
Love it.
01:01:45
Sammi
Well, um, are Chloe and Grant destined to live?
01:01:47
Steve
You're too many for me.
01:01:48
Sammi
Happen heavily ever after it. We're excited to find out. Uh, Chloe loves a dirty Martini. Um, she still sleeps with her baby blanket. Hashtag no shame. Uh, and Chloe dreams of seeing herself on a billboard in NYC.
01:02:02
Steve
Oh, could have happened.
01:02:03
Sammi
That, that might've already happened, Chloe. I don't know.
01:02:05
Steve
We don't know.
01:02:05
Sammi
Could I happened? Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, pretty pretty good chances with her. And then, OK, Parisa, we got to look at Parisa. So, yeah, so she is from Michigan. She's empathetic, resilient and ready to settle down. She's always dreamed of starting her own family and longs for an emotionally intimate connection with someone with whom she can be a power couple.
01:02:30
Sammi
She loves to cook, travel, and enjoys charcuterie nights. And not to be cheesy, but Parisa is truly one of a kind. She's hoping to meet a man who is loyal, honest, and funny, and is excited for, uh, for, wait, what? And is excited for her, the power of love to guide her on this journey. What?
01:02:54
Steve
Who wrote that?
01:02:55
Sammi
How could you mess up your bio? Don't mess up my girl's bio. Will Grant be the love and happiness she's been searching for? Parisa, let the journey begin.
01:03:02
Steve
Sure.
01:03:04
Sammi
Parisa has a rock collection. Well, they also misspelled whiz.
01:03:06
Steve
We know this. Yeah.
01:03:08
Sammi
Well, I don't know, unless you say it's a wizard, but I would say WHIZ, right?
01:03:12
Steve
Yeah, I'm a WHS.
01:03:13
Sammi
She's a whiz with PowerPoint.
01:03:14
Steve
Yeah.
01:03:15
Sammi
Parisa relaxes by watching organization content on TikTok. All right.
01:03:19
Steve
Sure.
01:03:20
Sammi
Sure. I like it.
01:03:22
Steve
Yeah.
01:03:22
Sammi
um Yeah, so that's pretty good. Let's see. OK, Alex is a small town girl looking for a big time love. Oh, she's Canadian. Oh, yeah, I knew that. she's Yeah, she spoke French.
01:03:33
Sammi
OK. ah The Canadian beauty beauty grew up on a farm surrounded by goats, bunnies, and chickens, love it, ah which led to her lifelong love of animals. In her free time, she loves to travel, play beach volleyball, and make all of her friends laugh.
01:03:46
Steve
That's nice.
01:03:46
Sammi
Alex is bubbly, fluent in French, and always knows how to get the party started. She's ready to find the man of her dreams and want someone who's open-minded, hardworking, and an all-around good human. We can't wait to see if there's true amour between Alex and Grant.
01:04:00
Steve
Can't wait either.
01:04:01
Sammi
oh of course she loves ketchup chips that's so canadian to love ketchup chips um she's addicted to cooking competition shows and she doesn't do karaoke ever so not for me sorry that's a deal breaker bye
01:04:04
Steve
That's deeply commit. Yeah.
01:04:14
Steve
Yeah, we're done.
01:04:15
Sammi
Yeah.
01:04:15
Steve
Not happening.
01:04:16
Sammi
um Yeah. Carolina. Let's see. She is a bold beauty who isn't afraid to go after what she wants or speak her mind in English, Spanish or French or tri-lingual.
01:04:28
Sammi
Carolina is super adventurous and loves to be the life of the party. She wants her relationship to feel like a movie and is hopeful to find a man who can live up to her childhood crush, Joe Jonas.
01:04:39
Sammi
Anyway, she's ready to settle down with someone who is ambitious and honest and is excited to meet our bachelor. Will Carolina catch the love bug with Grant?
01:04:48
Steve
Ooh.
01:04:48
Sammi
Sure hope so. um Okay, she describes her vibe as cool grandma. Carolina, that's my thing.
01:04:54
Steve
Sure.
01:04:56
Steve
I'm the cool grandma.
01:04:58
Sammi
Yeah, my my dad was like, hey, Sammy, did I mention this on the podcast? I can't remember. I called my parents like they went to Mexico for like a week to spend time at like a friend's house.
01:05:08
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:05:09
Sammi
And before they left, I like called them to just check in. And my dad's like, hey, Sam, I read something in the newspaper about grammar core. And I was wondering what you knew about it.
01:05:21
Sammi
And I said, outside of the fact that that's just me,
01:05:23
Steve
Yeah, that's...
01:05:25
Sammi
Yeah, he's like, yeah, I mean, I just feel like you were way ahead of the curve on that one.
01:05:31
Steve
You invented it.
01:05:33
Sammi
I was like, I am grandma Corey. Like, you don't even know. um So, OK, Carolina, you and I have to duke it out for a cool grandma vibe. Carolina's pet peeve is menus with no photos.
01:05:45
Steve
um so I cannot take her out to dinner.
01:05:46
Sammi
ah
01:05:47
Steve
i but That's not gonna happen. That's...
01:05:49
Sammi
And Carolina dreams of being roasted by Nikki Glaser. Not looking so good.
01:05:53
Steve
How does she, where where does she go out to eat? Does she only go to Denny's? What is? Where do you go where there's just pictures for everything?
01:06:01
Sammi
I don't know. There's a lot of restaurants that have pictures for everything. I'm trying to be nice.
01:06:06
Steve
That's a real Denny's ass problem. No, I can't.
01:06:10
Sammi
OK. All right. Well, well, sorry.
01:06:12
Steve
What have you changed the menu frequently? You just snap a new photos? Come on.
01:06:16
Sammi
Oh, my gosh. um Well, Bailey is a loyal, witty and confident woman who's always on the go. This jet setter lives a fast paced life and loves being a social butterfly, no matter ah where she is on the globe.
01:06:29
Steve
Hmm.
01:06:29
Sammi
When she's not working in social media, she loves to shop, dance and play with her toy poodle. He saw, I don't know, ESA. I don't know how to pronounce that.
01:06:37
Steve
Sure.
01:06:38
Sammi
um Bailey is looking for a man who is funny, thoughtful and very family oriented. And bonus points for a guy who can snap a cute pic of her. ah Bailey loves living, but that was obvious from the show.
01:06:49
Sammi
She was like, Southie loves living life to the fullest and is hoping Grant is along for the ride. Bailey's comfort items include bread and a heating pad. Relatable.
01:07:01
Sammi
One of my favorite fun facts ever.
01:07:03
Steve
yeah
01:07:04
Sammi
Bread and a heating pad, yes.
01:07:05
Steve
That's all you need, baby.
01:07:06
Sammi
You have no idea how much that resonates with me. um Bailey once took a flight solely for the purpose of leveling up her status with an airline. Can't relate to that, but that's cool. um Bailey dreams of seeing a polar bear IRL. Gotta hurry up.
01:07:22
Sammi
Also, can't I mean, I've seen them at zoos, but maybe she wants to go see one like in ah IRL, IRL outside of a zoo.
01:07:24
Steve
Yeah. It's like, what? don Like C1 C1? Yeah. I guess. yeah
01:07:31
Sammi
I don't know. Maybe she'll get to do that on the show.
01:07:33
Steve
Yeah.
01:07:34
Sammi
That would be interesting. um I'm trying to think who else? Oh, Dina ah can accomplish anything she puts her mind to. Agreed. And now she's set on finding her husband. Yeah, I don't know if Dina and Zoe will like be buds or they'll butt heads.
01:07:49
Sammi
hard to say.
01:07:49
Steve
yeah
01:07:49
Sammi
They both do seem very like strong willed. While her career as an attorney has taken the front seat for most of her adult life, she's finally ready to shift her focus and put her personal life first. Being one of 11 siblings seen as looking for someone who's kind, ambitious, and family oriented.
01:08:04
Sammi
A lot of people are looking for someone who's family oriented. What if you said, like I'm looking for someone who does not want family at all. Why am I on the show?
01:08:10
Steve
Yeah.
01:08:11
Sammi
um Most of Dina's best friends are either married or in a serious relationship and she's ready to join the club. Dina likes to consider herself a little mysterious, but she's ready to let her guard down if it means letting in a man like Grant. She's never met anyone who's cleaner or more organized than she is. That would be a deal breaker for me.
01:08:29
Sammi
um Dina wishes she had more time to read for fun. Oh, true. Same. When asked what her favorite style of dance is, she said, Dina dancing. If you know, you know. What does that mean?
01:08:39
Steve
What is Dina dancing? What is she like a wacky inflatable man?
01:08:40
Sammi
She's like, obviously.
01:08:42
Steve
Like what what's it look like?
01:08:42
Sammi
Yeah, she's like, it's Dina dancing. Anyone else who want to look at any of the Jersey girls?
01:08:48
Steve
I think we hit the heavy hitters.
01:08:48
Sammi
I don't know. I think we did, too. I think they're going to be kind of like the stand out for Savannah. Sorry, Savannah. um Yeah, and I'll just read.
01:09:00
Steve
sorry sava
01:09:01
Sammi
I'll read Juliana's fun facts real quick. Juliana wants to own a dog friendly bar one day. I think you can do that.
01:09:08
Steve
You can do that.
01:09:09
Sammi
um Juliana was raised on Frank's natural music.
01:09:09
Steve
That's, that's totally obtainable.
01:09:12
Sammi
Can't out Italy me.
01:09:14
Steve
Yeah.
01:09:15
Sammi
Juliana isn't afraid of heights, but she has no interest in jumping off something high. They're going to make you jump off something high on this show.
01:09:22
Steve
Yeah.
01:09:22
Sammi
Juliana never say that.
01:09:23
Steve
Congratulations. You just signed up for bungee jumping.
01:09:25
Sammi
Never say that.
01:09:25
Steve
That's Oh yeah.
01:09:27
Sammi
Don't do it. Ellie Jo. Yeah. Ellie Jo does look like Topanga. She looks like Jersey Topanga. You're telling me she doesn't. um She's a boxing trainer. That's so interesting.
01:09:38
Sammi
OK, anyway, ah you will never see Ellie Jo leave the house without lipstick on.
01:09:44
Steve
Same.
01:09:45
Sammi
That's also sounds very Jersey. Ellie Jo is very organized, but it's terrible at folding. That's fine. Ellie Jo dreams of shopping in Dubai. Again, I think that's like and you can attain that dream.
01:09:57
Steve
You can do it.
01:09:57
Sammi
You can do that if you really want to.
01:09:57
Steve
Yeah, you're fine.
01:09:59
Sammi
You could you could do that.
Media Narratives and Controversies
01:10:02
Sammi
Yeah, I think I think we kind of have a good read on some of the women ah we're going to see a lot, I think. Yeah. um Yeah.
01:10:10
Sammi
So i any other predictions, any wild predictions, is anyone going to end up hospitalized as you know, any broken bones?
01:10:17
Steve
I would love to watch Ali Joe knock somebody out. I just said just a Jersey throw down and she just clocks the Italian girl from Boston or whatever.
01:10:20
Sammi
Well, you know.
01:10:25
Sammi
If she makes it kind like, you know, within a couple couple weeks, they might do like a group boxing date and then she'd be like, I'm in my element, you know, like, yeah.
01:10:31
Steve
Oh. I love that where they do like all the big giant boxing gloves and she just like clocks a girl.
01:10:39
Sammi
Yeah, yeah, she that could that could happen.
01:10:40
Steve
Oh.
01:10:42
Sammi
They do that a lot, you know, where it's like if they have someone who they know is good at like a very specific sport, they'll do the group date.
01:10:44
Steve
Yeah.
01:10:49
Sammi
And it's like, come on, this is part of the reason they're here right now.
01:10:52
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:10:53
Sammi
And you're you've planned it for right now. um So, yeah, I don't know. Seems like it'll be a good season. Like I said, I'm excited because like everybody has their own name. There's no last initials.
01:11:04
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:11:04
Sammi
It's great. We I don't I don't know the last time we've ever had that.
01:11:07
Steve
It's gonna make our job a lot easier, hopefully.
01:11:09
Sammi
Yeah, I hope so. um Yeah, I feel like I already recognized more women than I ever have in previous seasons.
01:11:18
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:11:18
Sammi
They do look more distinctive and like they just stand out more. I don't know if anybody else I try not to like look at too much commentary because I want to just like for my own opinions when I start watching the show and then I'll like after we post this I'll like look and go, oh, yeah, that's what I said or whatever.
01:11:38
Sammi
But that was like my biggest takeaway was like, wow, I feel like this is such a unique season and that's cool. And like I think the mix of women is interesting and they a lot.
01:11:48
Sammi
of There's a lot of good choices. So but I mean, that usually happens. Like The Bachelor tends to have a lot of good choices. The Bachelorette's not as not as many.
01:11:58
Steve
Yeah, that is great. Not as great.
01:11:59
Sammi
Not as many good choices, you know, but then you get like a Jonathan thrown in there and it's like, well, at least we have Jonathan, you know? But then it's like, but of course she's not going to pick them.
01:12:09
Sammi
So I'm going to be frustrated the whole time.
01:12:10
Steve
No, he's a Sammy boy. Sammy boys don't get picked.
01:12:14
Sammi
Yeah. Well. Everybody wanted to pick him afterwards. So obviously I made a good choice for once. um ah A popular choice for once, I'll say.
01:12:23
Steve
Yeah.
01:12:23
Sammi
They were all good choice.
01:12:23
Steve
Yeah.
01:12:24
Sammi
Well, except for the the man we won't talk about who really made me so sad. He likes knitting and you betrayed me and you know who I'm talking about.
01:12:32
Steve
Yeah. yeah
01:12:34
Sammi
um Before we close, we should briefly mention the Matt and Rachel of it all because that is hitting the news big time. Did you not hear about it?
01:12:43
Steve
Oh, no, i know I know about this.
01:12:43
Sammi
You're looking at me like,
01:12:44
Steve
I know about this.
01:12:44
Sammi
OK, here's what I think is weird.
01:12:44
Steve
Yeah.
01:12:46
Sammi
I'm going to take the same position as tell the bees on TikTok and other platforms. And they were like, well, because tell the bees if you and I will add a link to their video.
01:12:58
Sammi
um I'm going to make a note so I don't forget. um So tell the bees brought this up on TikTok um that there's like, you know, the the. like the victim of the year, you know what I mean? Like that like the the wronged woman of the year, like the scorned woman and like brought up like Chrishell and brought up Jen and brought up Ariana and they said, you know, and now it's Rachel. But what is weird about this is like people just are forgetting about all the weirdness that happened with Rachel in the beginning. It's like, no, let's forget the fact that she went to a plantation party. It's fine. It's fine. You know, and I'm like, that's weird. And I'm still like, I haven't forgotten until the beast was like, ah why are we just like letting this slide? And why is it? And it's like, I don't know. I think there's a difference between going, OK, yeah, I guess she was young. She was an adult.
01:13:55
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:13:55
Sammi
with like access to the internet, like, I don't know, and it wasn't that long ago.
01:13:59
Steve
No.
01:14:01
Sammi
Like, and all that that's always been weird. um But okay, sure.
01:14:04
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:14:07
Sammi
But to go from like, just like tolerating her and being like, well, she's a human who exists and like everybody does mess up and they deserve grace to like, she's a baby and we have to like love and support her and like,
01:14:15
Steve
We have to love the baby.
01:14:22
Sammi
Yeah. It's just weird. Like, and so she was just on call her daddy and like she did, you know, an interview.
01:14:26
Steve
oh
01:14:27
Sammi
Yeah. Like it's like, you know, and it just sounds like, I mean, listen, I think we were both kind of like lukewarm on Matt as well, but like, I don't think he's like the scum of the earth or anything like that.
01:14:35
Steve
Oh, I don't know about that.
01:14:41
Sammi
And people are like, Matt James should have never been the bachelor. and He's a terrible human. And I was like, where's this coming from? Like. It's just like really weird. Like I can think of a lot worse men who have been the bachelor.
01:14:53
Sammi
Okay.
01:14:54
Steve
Sure. Yeah.
01:14:55
Sammi
um Anyway, so sorry, it's something in my throat. We just had a whole special episode about somebody who like made a terrible cream dreams rap who should have never been the bachelor ever in a million years.
01:15:06
Steve
ah forever Ever, ever, ever.
01:15:07
Sammi
Okay.
01:15:07
Steve
What he was, in a world of Juan Pablo's, Matt James cannot be the worst bachelor.
01:15:08
Sammi
Yeah, Matt didn't do that. Right. Right.
01:15:12
Steve
I'm sorry.
01:15:13
Sammi
Exactly. There's like so many other ones that I would place as worse than Matt. And it's just like the switch up is weird.
01:15:18
Steve
he
01:15:21
Sammi
The like it sounds like she got blindsided. That's her perspective. I don't know. You know, it's like we were on the same page. We're on the same page. And then you like pull the rug out from under me.
01:15:32
Sammi
Like that's the story that I'm hearing. I have no idea how much of that is whatever. But just just it was weird because it was like I mean, Skandval was like legitimately shocking and he is legitimately trash.
01:15:47
Sammi
like That was, like I think, very cut and dry for most people.
01:15:48
Steve
Yeah, yeah.
01:15:51
Sammi
you know um And I also think it's funny like how mean...
01:15:52
Steve
you
01:15:56
Sammi
like people were on the show about her like gaining celebrity status from it, whatever. Let her like she's getting a check and she's good at it and she obviously has good agents just like let her get it.
01:16:07
Sammi
But also like she doesn't have like a weird sorted past that we have to like contend with her getting a redemption arc, you know?
01:16:07
Steve
Yeah.
01:16:16
Steve
Yeah, her entire past is on every season of Vanderpump if you're you're interested.
01:16:20
Sammi
You can see it. And I mean, outside of the yeah, maybe how you get them is how you lose them. You know, maybe that's the thing. She was pretty young and people that's not I don't think at the level of like dress up as antebellum era people like that's weird shit, you know. So it's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't have a problem with her being treated like, oh, my God, or like Jen, like Jen didn't do anything wrong.
01:16:50
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:16:51
Sammi
Devon sucks, you know, and to have her get a redemption arc on Dancing with the Stars was wonderful.
01:16:54
Steve
Yeah.
01:16:57
Sammi
She totally deserved it.
01:16:59
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:16:59
Sammi
You know, so it's just like, it's weird that Rachel, it's in my opinion, it's weird that Rachel is getting this treatment. I'm just kind of like, Okay, like she got dumped out of the blue that sucks and maybe there's more to the story but it's just like very I don't know I think it's odd, but I'll let tell the bees tell the story you can look at their video But what's your take on it?
01:17:10
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:17:19
Sammi
I'm curious.
01:17:20
Steve
Yeah, I mean, I'm i'm not gonna sit here and, you know, like, obviously, like, know in the case of something like Tom Sandoval and Scannable, it's like, it's easy because I already hated Tom Sandoval.
01:17:20
Sammi
I feel like I've been talking a lot Yeah
01:17:33
Steve
Give me another reason. Thank you. And then let's let's turn someone into a star because of it. Great. Awesome.
01:17:39
Sammi
Mhm.
01:17:39
Steve
and And I mean, think about it, too. It's like, I don't like Tom Sandoval, but What is what was jack's doing on bander pump like every single season that he was hot he was like every single thing he did every single arc that he had was a scan of all but somehow we we're like okay this is the one great it's it's all about like who your agent is and how you're spending it she's putting a great.
01:17:49
Sammi
Right.
01:17:52
Sammi
Mhm.
01:18:01
Steve
um i I personally wouldn't marry her i don't like a very mad james either i think. It really does kind of lie in the middle. We shouldn't infantilize her and and ignore that she did some shitty shit a few years ago, and hopefully she's grown from that.
01:18:14
Sammi
huh
01:18:16
Steve
But also, ah yeah, I don't happen to think that Matt James is is Satan reincarnated. Like, that it doesn't doesn't track with me.
01:18:23
Sammi
Yeah, like it's just it's just weird. The switch up is just weird where everyone's just like, I mean, now I do think some people have some valid criticisms for Matt. And like we talked about it way long ago on our podcast.
01:18:33
Sammi
like you know If you want to go back in the old, old seasons, you can find it.
01:18:34
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:18:38
Sammi
um But you know some of the criticisms were that he, because I haven't really followed like Matt and Rachel at all. like i I don't follow a ton of Bachelor Nation.
01:18:45
Steve
No, neither have I.
Closing Remarks and Advice
01:18:48
Sammi
There's a handful of people that I like watch their stuff, but it's It's a very small group, um but apparently they were doing a lot of like food content afterwards. Like they traveled a lot and they ate a lot of food. And this, I think, is like a very valid criticism. um People are like, yeah, he like rolls up to a place and is like, this is the best food I've ever had. And either it's like everybody. It's like the most touristy, popular place that everybody goes. So it's like everybody knows about it. And like and it's either really good or it's really shit. And you obviously got like paid to say it was good. And I don't think you actually ate the food.
01:19:23
Sammi
matt because if you did, you wouldn't say it was good or you're lying or both or whatever.
01:19:27
Steve
Yeah.
01:19:28
Sammi
And so like hate him for that, hate him for like misleading you and making you waste your money on like food that he might be getting secretly sponsored for and he's not disclosing it.
01:19:39
Sammi
And that's, I mean, not like the, f I mean, no federal agency has any teeth right now, but if they did, the FTC would be on your ass, but they're not right now.
01:19:49
Steve
but but Yeah, it's actually a great time to do that.
01:19:50
Sammi
ah Yeah, actually, it's a great time to lie about anything.
01:19:53
Steve
Never been a better time.
01:19:54
Sammi
Don't disclose ads.
01:19:54
Steve
Yeah.
01:19:55
Sammi
It's great. um But yeah, so like get mad at him about that. I don't know, like being immature about a breakup, handling a breakup. It's like, yeah, it doesn't make you the devil. it maybe Maybe makes you like not great, but like it's just weird anyway.
01:20:07
Steve
Yeah.
01:20:09
Sammi
So that's what I'm going to say, because I know the people want to know what our opinion is on this breakup and we don't have one really.
01:20:14
Steve
Yeah. We don't have one. Yeah. Pretty Switzerland on the whole thing. I don't care.
01:20:17
Sammi
Yeah, it's just like, OK, sorry. Sorry for your loss.
01:20:19
Steve
Yeah, I want a little, I want a little more juice. Come on.
01:20:22
Sammi
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't care. I don't care one way or another. It happened. I figured we had to talk about it and that's it.
01:20:29
Steve
Yeah.
01:20:29
Sammi
Um, but, uh, we will see you next week and I think this will be a record time for us getting to know people's names. So that's going to be great. And in the meantime, listen, be safe.
01:20:40
Sammi
There's like a lot of stuff going around and the FDA is not going to tell you about it right now. So just, um, read news. Okay. Just read the news and be safe.
01:20:49
Steve
But don't do needle drugs. That's like really unsafe if you do.
01:20:52
Sammi
Yeah.
01:20:52
Steve
Yeah, it's not good.
01:20:54
Sammi
Yeah. And just like think twice before you eat lunch meat, you know? Cause they won't tell you if there's a Listeria outbreak.
01:21:01
Steve
Yeah, ah nobody wants that.
01:21:01
Sammi
Very scary.
01:21:05
Steve
Where my Listeria Gurley's at?
01:21:11
Sammi
Side-eye those soft cheeses.
01:21:13
Steve
ah