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Rose Plate Special: Bachelor Grant, Week 2
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Are they crisis bangs or just cute bangs? You'll have to watch our video to know for sure! On this episode, we talk about the one-sided beef between Allie Jo and Zoe, the continued domination of Chloie and Zoe, and how Grant is maybe the best singer so far in Bachelor Nation!
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Transcript
Introduction and Setting the Stage
00:00:16
Sammi
Hello, I'm Sammy.
00:00:17
Steve
Oh, hello. And I'm Steve.
00:00:22
Sammi
And you're listening to Rose Plate Special, the most dramatic, ah basket, balling-est, tarantula-ing-est, stealing, timing-est recap podcast of The Bachelor or ever.
00:00:36
Steve
Ever! Did you like that pregnant pause that I gave?
00:00:38
Sammi
Yeah, I was like, are you glitching? What's going on?
00:00:41
Steve
just like Mentally glitching because I was thinking I was like, oh I didn't turn my bachelor podcast lighting on which I'm gonna do right now And if you're in an audio format, this probably doesn't matter as much as you think it does But it actually adds quite but a bit to the eye Look at that Do I do I look 37% sexier now?
00:00:48
Sammi
OK. Ooh.
00:00:54
Sammi
Yeah, this is this is yeah. Everyone, you get to see how the sausage is made. Ooh, it's very different. It's funny.
00:01:05
Sammi
Yes, obviously, yes.
00:01:05
Steve
Thank you
00:01:06
Sammi
And it's the pink. It it has to be pink. That's the rule.
00:01:10
Steve
That's the rule.
Hair Salon Stories and Experiences
00:01:11
Steve
Yeah.
00:01:11
Sammi
Um, yeah, it's funny cause we were, we were, started talking and I'm like, let's just hit record because, because we have to address the elephant in the room. It's not just your lighting. It's also my bangs. Everything is different.
00:01:20
Steve
Yes. Immediately if upon log again, I was like bags.
00:01:26
Sammi
Yeah, it's funny because, okay, so last week I went to the hairstylist and I said, I said, okay, the state of the world, is it time to get bangs? So they kind of are.
00:01:38
Sammi
You know, you're like, they're not trauma bangs, but I was kind of like, and I started a TikTok video.
00:01:40
Steve
Yeah.
00:01:42
Sammi
I did, oh, first of all, just, here's a PSA, everyone. I didn't know TikTok was doing this. They started putting sounds, multiple sounds in the middle of videos.
00:01:54
Steve
What?
00:01:54
Sammi
I don't know when they started doing that so like I recorded a video and it said no sound and I was like great but it was like a sound called no sound and then there were also annoying and there were also two other sounds in there so it's like I gave a 10-minute recap of companion that I was really happy with and then like a minute and a half and it's like the loudest sound you've ever heard over my talking I'm like great Great.
00:02:19
Steve
Oh my god.
00:02:19
Sammi
That's so cool. But I started the video and I was like, I'm still not sure if I like these bangs, but I got them because of what's going on in the world. But ah that's not what this video is about.
00:02:30
Sammi
It's a review for companion.
00:02:31
Steve
Oh.
00:02:33
Sammi
But thank you for saying you thought they looked nice. So that that's nice.
00:02:35
Steve
They do look nice.
00:02:36
Sammi
Thanks.
00:02:36
Steve
and And there's things that I've learned, like if if a if a woman gets her hair done, ah you it's it's good if you notice, say, hey, that looks great. you know If anybody, woman, may it doesn't matter, you tell them. However, if they get bangs, I always have to follow it up with, and the bangs look good, but and they're not trauma bangs, because you know when someone gets the trauma bangs.
00:02:55
Steve
And if they are trauma bangs, you still say they don't look like trauma bangs, but sincerely, yours aren't trauma bangs.
00:03:00
Sammi
Now I don't know how to feel. You're like.
00:03:03
Steve
Sammy, we've known each other long enough that I would be like, do we need to have a conversation?
00:03:06
Sammi
That's true, that you would be like, are you in crisis?
00:03:09
Steve
Yes.
00:03:10
Sammi
Yeah, that's so true. um So funny. But yeah, well, Tux Reid was he goes, first of all, he was like enamored when I came home. He was like, I think they're so cute. I also have like calico colored hair, but I don't think it's as obvious on here.
00:03:23
Steve
Yeah.
00:03:24
Sammi
And I wanted to get a little bit chunkier. but we're doing like two phases so we didn't add any light this time we just added dark so like the hair itself is darker um but there's also you can't really tell but there's like some yellow and orange and stuff going on you can't really tell in this light but so that's what I was excited about but tuck was looking at me like this and I was like what's going on he's like
00:03:29
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:03:46
Sammi
I don't know you just look like um just a little bit more mischievous like in a good way like you could get in a little bit more trouble and I think that's cute and I was like thanks I guess so that's his review of my bangs but he really enjoys them too yes I'm ready it's about bangs so okay hmm
00:03:51
Steve
ah
00:03:56
Steve
That's great. i I have a question for you. ah before Before we actually move into what the show is about, it is it's regarding hair.
00:04:08
Steve
So when you go to get your hair done, do you have a vision for what you want? Like, did you walk in, you were like, bangs, calico, more volume, we're doing a thing.
00:04:15
Sammi
Hmm, can I show you on Pinterest? Let's see. I did have a pin in mind Here's the thing I usually walk in and go I have no idea just do something that looks different from the thing we did before or I like the last thing Let's just do that again, and I'm actually like very emotionally unattached to my hair so I'm just kind of like
00:04:20
Steve
Okay, so you had some inspo.
00:04:31
Steve
mm hmm okay
00:04:37
Sammi
You know, like I've had it very short. I've had it very long. I've had it every color. I've had it shaved of everything. So I'm always just kind of like, I don't know, what do you want to do this time? And I'll be like, I kind of want to go more orangey or something. And then lyn that's kind of it. And then it I mean, I'll have my glasses off like this happen. I even cut some of it, you know, and And I have my glasses off and I can't see a thing without my glasses.
00:05:02
Sammi
And my stylist was like, like, put, you know, did like this and said, OK, I'm going to cut this much off. Is that OK? And I said, I literally can't see that. So yeah I'm just going to say yes.
00:05:11
Steve
Yeah, sure.
00:05:11
Sammi
So whatever you have right there, you just just chop it. So like, I don't you know, and it's funny because I used to work with somebody who and i I brought this up to myself who like would just was Burnett did balayage every time.
00:05:16
Steve
Okay.
00:05:24
Sammi
And one time they were like, they went too late. And I literally could not tell the difference. It was probably like the, the you know, it's like, but they got the same haircut and style every single time.
00:05:32
Steve
Hmm.
00:05:37
Sammi
And if it was like a little off, they'd be like, everything is wrong. Like this is not okay. And I was like, I don't know the difference, but I went, no, it looks fine, you know, because I'm like, I don't know what to say.
00:05:49
Sammi
But I so not that, you know, I'm the kind of, you know, I used to go to like students and stuff and just be like, do whatever you can mess it up.
00:05:51
Steve
Okay.
00:05:57
Sammi
It's fine. You know, yeah.
00:05:58
Steve
Yeah, yeah. And well, cause I'm kind of the same way, but I didn't know if this was just like the boring white man's lament of I sit down in the barber chair and they go, what do you want? And I go, like now, but less. Like that's pretty.
00:06:13
Steve
yeah
00:06:13
Sammi
You're like, just make it look put together. I don't know.
00:06:15
Steve
Yeah, yeah.
00:06:16
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:16
Steve
i never I never know what to say. And I previously had a hairstylist for a couple of years, and she was ah an older, very stern Russian woman.
00:06:27
Steve
And I would just sit in the chair, and she wouldn't ask any questions. She would just go. And I was fine with it.
00:06:32
Sammi
Wow.
00:06:33
Steve
And then she would be done, and she would look at me, and she would she would say, handsome man. And I go, yeah, thank you. Thank you. But then she abruptly moved to Ohio, which I feel like is a punishment.
00:06:46
Steve
um I don't know what happened in her life, but, but then I had to, I had to switch and I got a new lady and she's great too, but I just, I feel bad every time. And I don't know, like if you're a hair stylist, am I an upsetting person to you?
00:06:57
Steve
I'm not, I'm trying not to be. I just see you as the artist. I am the canvas. Please know that I have a typical nine to five corporate job and must look semi respectable in that way.
00:07:08
Steve
But otherwise I don't care what you do to me. ah Go crazy.
00:07:11
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it was funny because I was talking to my stylist about this last week and I said, I feel bad because and I sometimes have ideas and sometimes I'll have like three phases of ideas and I'll be like, I want to go here, then I want to go here, then I want to go here, you know, and I just have not had any ideas outside of like, I just wanted to be colorful and semi-maintainable and like when it fades, it
Bachelor Group Date Drama
00:07:32
Sammi
looks cool. And that's all I really care about.
00:07:34
Sammi
and And I'm like, this is a good time to get bangs, because we're just out of the static season, and we're not in the sweaty season. So like let's do this now. But now I'm like, already, after seeing companion, I'm like, maybe I want to grow them into companion bangs, because Iris's bangs are so cute.
00:07:50
Sammi
um But that's a thing to grow into.
00:07:50
Steve
Yeah. And then you can light your arm on fire.
00:07:56
Steve
Sorry.
00:07:56
Sammi
um
00:07:56
Steve
Reference to the trailer for the movie companion. For those of you who.
00:07:58
Sammi
Yeah, it is just in the trailer, luckily. um But yeah, like and she's got like those um those hairs that like stick in the front, like that yeah which reminds me of every 70s to 90s Disney and Fox princess.
00:08:15
Sammi
Do you know what I'm talking about?
00:08:16
Steve
Yes.
00:08:16
Sammi
Or they had that little thing in here, and I was like, God, that's so cute.
00:08:16
Steve
Yes. so
00:08:19
Sammi
So I'm like, okay, I kinda wanna grow into that next, but you can start with these bangs and grow into it, so it's fine. But, um yeah, I usually don't have ideas and like lately, and my stylist was like, Well, I like it when you have ideas because I feel like I work well with an idea. So like I had pins and I mean I do that for my nails too, i except last time when I was like I want AOL and some messenger nails and she was like that literally no one's done that. um But I already have like a bunch of pins for Thursday when I'm getting my Valentine's nails done, you know, because I but I had like, you know, like, this was here's some inspo can see
00:08:55
Steve
who
00:08:56
Sammi
You know, I was like something like that, you know, and we went a little less.
00:08:58
Steve
yeah
00:08:59
Sammi
And I said, you could go wilder with the contrast. And and but we didn't do as many light things. So she's like, next time we'll go we'll go light and we'll do the lighter hair. And then it'll kind of give this look.
00:09:10
Sammi
And then she's like, well, do you want bangs?
00:09:11
Steve
Fun.
00:09:12
Sammi
Because they all have bangs. And I said, yeah, let's do bangs. And hey, the worst worst that happens, I can move them to the side. It's not it's not a big deal. I don't really I just have never really cared um about my hair.
00:09:21
Steve
Yeah.
00:09:24
Steve
Well, congratulations on your bang era. This is a big moment for you.
00:09:26
Sammi
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I've had many bang errors, but this is one of them.
00:09:31
Steve
This is the latest of of many.
00:09:32
Sammi
This is one of them.
00:09:33
Steve
Wonderful, wonderful.
00:09:34
Sammi
Yeah, it's basically like how my hair looked when I was seven, but a little bit longer. um All right.
00:09:39
Steve
Great.
00:09:39
Sammi
So I missed the first two minutes of episode two because I was running home because I had a field trip, um which is fun when you're in grad school and you get to have a field trip.
00:09:44
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah, that is that is fun I can tell you emphatically that you missed very little if anything at all truly Yeah
00:09:50
Sammi
That's the best. ah Yeah.
00:09:56
Sammi
I just I it started with Topanga. I mean, Ali Joe talking about like i maybe I'll throw some punches. And that's where I started.
00:10:05
Steve
that's That's basically it. So we're we're starting things off with a group j with a group date. um It is a competitive sportsy group date.
00:10:14
Sammi
Yes.
00:10:14
Steve
And it involves my favorite group date twist, which is, I want to have children. What are your maternal instincts? ah So there's some kids involved, although they are quickly uninvolved, like almost immediately.
00:10:24
Sammi
Yes.
00:10:27
Sammi
Yeah, I was for ah when you said that, I went, wait, what part?
00:10:27
Steve
And it's weird.
00:10:32
Sammi
And I forgot that there were kids there.
00:10:34
Steve
Yes, it was weird, because if because they're like, okay, we're gonna do some drills.
00:10:35
Sammi
Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:10:39
Steve
And I think that the reason that most of the kid's stuff was jettisoned was either because it wasn't fun enough, or ah because our girl Zoe ah did a little little sneaky, steely move, and everybody was standing around grumpy, and so we couldn't do fun things with children, because I can only love children, and my man is around, you know how it is?
00:11:02
Sammi
Yeah, I totally know how it is. It's so funny because i I did do three live posts. So it was better than last week's one post that I did one day after on Blue Sky.
00:11:12
Sammi
So I'm getting better.
00:11:14
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:11:14
Sammi
um But one of the things I did, why I did talk about Chloe and Joey dominating basketball because they did.
00:11:20
Steve
Yeah.
00:11:20
Sammi
And then also.
00:11:21
Steve
A CNC connection.
00:11:22
Sammi
Yeah. And then Zoe taking the time to, yeah, pull him aside. And people got really, Ally Joe in particular, got really mad about Zoe literally playing the game.
00:11:35
Sammi
And it's so annoying to me, like.
00:11:36
Steve
It's the game.
00:11:39
Sammi
Yeah, and so I posted and I said, I said something like, you know, Zoe is just playing the, what did I say exactly? People show up to each season like this show hasn't been on 20 plus years.
00:11:50
Sammi
Zoe's completely right. You gotta to play the game.
00:11:53
Steve
Yeah, that's it.
00:11:53
Sammi
um Yeah.
00:11:54
Steve
ah I mean, truly, truly, this is like maddening at this point because we see this all the time. And, you know, people are constantly trying to play the game.
00:12:05
Steve
And that's not to say that some people can't be jerks about it. Like, I think, I think Devin, who turned out to be a colossally bad person ah by any measure that I would use, ah he didn't do this very well.
00:12:08
Sammi
Right.
00:12:17
Steve
He was bad at it.
00:12:17
Sammi
No.
00:12:18
Steve
The funny thing about Zoe, is not only is she just playing the game the way that it's meant to be played she's not even that good at it guys like you could easily box her out to use a ah basketball metaphor here it wouldn't be hard the interaction that she has with him when she pulls him outside of the gym or whatever
00:12:28
Sammi
No.
00:12:38
Steve
No one goes to try and interrupt it. No one's trying to stop it. And on top of that, she's not even that good at it. like She's kind of like awkward and and just kind of like, hey, so we're here.
00:12:50
Steve
It's like she knew she wanted to pull in because she knew that that one-on-one time was important, but she didn't actually think through the steps and the processes of, okay, I'm here, now what?
00:12:54
Sammi
Mmhmm.
00:13:00
Steve
ah Which is great.
00:13:01
Sammi
Yeah.
00:13:01
Steve
This is so funny. And all these people can do is is just pout and stomp their feet. Guys, you can do it too. Anything is possible when you're on The Bachelor.
00:13:12
Sammi
Yeah, I mean, you know, if we compare it to, you know, I'm just thinking a lot about Ben season because that's what I watched right before this. But like Courtney was really good at pulling Ben away.
00:13:19
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:13:23
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:13:23
Sammi
Like she was a complete pro at it. And she was like, none of the other women are doing this right or want to do it. and Like she said the same thing, basically like if they wanted to pull him away, they could.
00:13:35
Sammi
And Zoe said the exact same thing. like She was like, I mean, and that happened later in the show, but she was like, if someone else wanted to interrupt me, they could. That's all part of the game. Like that doesn't bother me at all.
00:13:45
Steve
Yeah. Oh, and the way that the show is trying to set her up too, major, major Courtney Robertson flashbacks, especially after just reading the book, I was just like, total recall moment.
00:13:47
Sammi
You know.
00:13:53
Sammi
Yeah.
00:13:57
Steve
ah Because this is this is what we're seeing. It is this stunning, tall, beautiful woman who clearly just like from her physical presence, intimidates a lot of the girls.
00:14:08
Steve
And then she's also playing the game it's meant to be played, the way that it's meant to be played. And this is upsetting for some folks.
00:14:15
Sammi
Yeah.
00:14:15
Steve
And I don't know why this is that villain behavior. Okay. It's not even like comical over the top stuff. This is not like, like, this isn't Corinne in like naked under a trench coat.
00:14:22
Sammi
No.
00:14:25
Sammi
I was going to say, yeah, correct. Yeah.
00:14:28
Steve
Like.
00:14:28
Sammi
Right. It's like it's pretty mundane stuff.
00:14:31
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:14:31
Sammi
It's more like Taysha, except she didn't get in trouble for it.
00:14:34
Steve
Yeah.
00:14:34
Sammi
And Taysha was smoother than Zoe.
00:14:37
Steve
No.
00:14:37
Sammi
But like, but it's just it's very similar. It's like it's nothing threatening. And and if, you know, I think you could take Zoe to task if other women tried to steal him and then she got bent out of shape about it, but she was literally like, that's the way it goes.
00:14:51
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:14:53
Sammi
That's the way it goes.
00:14:53
Steve
Yeah, let just do it.
00:14:54
Sammi
That's fine. Yeah.
00:14:55
Steve
That's what you're supposed to do. Yeah.
00:14:56
Sammi
And then she was like, well, you know what? I'm going to sneak back in and say good night. And I mean, and the other thing, like somebody reposted my post and added to it and said something like, you know, something about like production encouragement.
00:15:08
Sammi
And I said, yeah, exactly. That's the other thing. I'm sure there are producers that are encouraging her and other women to like do this.
00:15:13
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:15:16
Sammi
But it seemed like they were really laying into Zoe like, you know, don't you think you want to like to me, that felt like a don't you want to go say good night to him? I think you should.
00:15:24
Steve
Yeah.
00:15:24
Sammi
And then she's like, Oh, you know, I just wanted to say good night or whatever. But it's an Ali takes it. Ali, Joe, Ali, Joe takes it very personally. Like she gets super upset, you know.
00:15:33
Steve
Oh, gosh, yeah. This is Jersey Alley Joe. This is, yeah.
00:15:37
Sammi
Yeah, they had the jerseys coming out. So um but anyway, ah yeah, and then and the women acted like like the kid coaches thing, they acted like breaking that up was like sacrilegious. It was just weird. They're like, there are children here. Won't somebody think of the children? And I'm like.
00:15:57
Steve
Super weird.
00:15:58
Sammi
This is like an adult date. OK, like what why would there be children there? Let's just get them get them away. um But yeah, so then they do this like head to head basketball thing to go back to the game and everyone is losing nails.
00:16:13
Steve
Yes.
00:16:14
Sammi
Which is amazing, honestly, and they're like, they're like, if we're going to lose all our nails, we better win. We better win. So it's really funny.
00:16:21
Steve
Well, and then you could kind of tell ah just completely from the jump who was going to win this because one team was just like, oh, weird. There's a short girl team and a tall girl team like, yeah, gee, I wonder who's going to perform better in the game of basketball.
00:16:32
Sammi
Yeah, yeah, obviously the short girls.
00:16:36
Steve
Yeah, that's it.
00:16:36
Sammi
No, no, not us.
00:16:37
Steve
It's, uh, also the, the fundamental misunderstanding of how basketball is played too. Like the fact that like there was some physicality and, uh, Ali Joe, again, uh, Long Island, Tiffany, Amber Theson was just like, I can't believe someone's got to bump into me.
00:16:43
Sammi
her
00:16:55
Steve
I'm gonna throw them on the ground. And then she like literally just like shove someone on the ground.
00:16:58
Sammi
Yeah, I'm like, well, that's not I don't know basketball that well, but I don't think that's allowed.
00:17:00
Steve
That's a little different. Yeah. Yeah, sorry, Bill Lambier.
00:17:03
Sammi
um
00:17:05
Steve
You can't do that. If you don't know who Bill Lambier is, Google it, and then you'll laugh at that joke. Trust me.
00:17:08
Sammi
OK. What's it called when you like fake? Is it flopping? Is that what they call it?
00:17:13
Steve
Yeah, flopping. A lot of flopping going on.
00:17:14
Sammi
Yeah.
00:17:15
Steve
And then some extreme retaliation.
00:17:18
Sammi
Yeah. OK, thanks.
Unexpected Talents and Mall Date Surprises
00:17:20
Sammi
Just want to make sure I know sports terms, not really.
00:17:22
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:17:22
Sammi
ah Well, unless it's football.
00:17:24
Steve
Yeah, and I'm sure all of our listeners do too. A lot of sportsy folks out here.
00:17:26
Sammi
Yeah, we are all sports goers.
00:17:28
Steve
Yeah.
00:17:29
Sammi
um But yeah, so Chloe gets the MVP as she should. And they get some one one on one time together. And I was like, this is interesting, though.
00:17:39
Sammi
Well, I don't know. So she said, you know, some people are in your life for a season, a reason or a lifetime. And she's like, I think you're in my life for a reason. And I'm like, but does that mean you already know that it's not going to happen?
00:17:50
Steve
Not going to last. Yeah. why it move Yeah.
00:17:51
Sammi
Because I was like, a reason is usually like, yeah, like, even if you fall out or break up or whatever, like, it was meant to teach you something, it's even worse than a season.
00:18:03
Sammi
So I was like, yeah, I was like, but you know, there are already theories swirling that she's meant to be the next bachelorette.
00:18:04
Steve
That's kind of.
00:18:10
Sammi
And I would love that. So listen, if she doesn't make it that far, and she's the next bachelorette, I'm already
00:18:16
Steve
It's fine.
00:18:16
Sammi
very into it. She's got, she's got like a great personality. Like she's like the perfect person to be the bachelorette. Cause you can already see it. Cause like with a lot of these bachelorettes we've had, we haven't even gotten to see their personality.
00:18:26
Steve
Mm-hmm Yeah
00:18:30
Sammi
And then we find out like they're pretty cool after, but she's like already like, here I am. And like, she's fine. She's beautiful. Like, come on. Like she's the best choice. Anyway, she's my favorite.
00:18:40
Steve
No, totally, totally.
00:18:40
Sammi
So yeah.
00:18:41
Steve
ah It's nice we can see people's personnel, because obviously I have expressed some of my hesitation about Grant as the bachelor, and I think he's fine.
00:18:49
Sammi
yeah Yeah.
00:18:50
Steve
He's ah he's a classic bachelor, which is to say he is a himbo, um which we we love a himbo.
00:18:54
Sammi
Yeah. He's pretty cookie cutter. Yeah.
00:18:56
Steve
he's He's a cookie cutter himbo.
00:18:56
Sammi
Yeah.
00:18:58
Steve
I am concerned about his job, but it turns out he can sing and play basketball, so sky's the limit.
00:19:04
Sammi
Yes. OK, yeah, we need to talk about that one in one day, too. Let me make sure I don't have any other basketball notes. Yeah, this was kind of weird. Yeah, this was when like the stealing back and forth happened and all of that.
00:19:17
Sammi
And yeah, she's like so he was like, you have one shot at the whole experience and I'm going to give it my all.
00:19:18
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:19:22
Sammi
And I'm like, yeah, that's you did the exact right thing if someone gets mad at you about it and you're not even being catty about it. So like if they're being mad about it, that's ridiculous. Yeah, it's like Maria had a bigger target on her.
00:19:33
Sammi
Well, They have kind of the same size target, but like Maria was more blunt. You know what I mean?
00:19:39
Steve
Hmm.
00:19:39
Sammi
Like Zoe's just being nice. I don't know. It's just weird. um But we did kind of say like I think you said last week that Zoe you predicted Zoe would make enemies quickly. So here you go.
00:19:49
Steve
Oh yeah, yeah, totally.
00:19:51
Sammi
Yeah. um And yeah, she said no one said you couldn't take him back from me. um But then what was kind of interesting was neither one of them got the rose. Natalie got the rose and she was the one who kind of like pulled the kids aside and was like, I don't like basketball, but I can teach you a breathing exercise. And I was like, fair, good, essential. um So that's great. And then I missed something. I went downstairs to grab food and then I came back up and I heard something about tarantulas that was
00:20:20
Steve
ok this is
00:20:22
Sammi
So I missed that, so I'm so sorry.
00:20:25
Steve
fully, fully deranged. um And because we're still early on, I'm not sure who was doing this. um I think it was like Juliana maybe or Parisa?
00:20:37
Steve
I don't know. I want to say Juliana. Juliana feels right in this situation.
00:20:41
Sammi
OK.
00:20:43
Steve
She's literally like, she sees a spider, like a normal, just like garden spider that you would see in California.
00:20:47
Sammi
Uh-huh.
00:20:52
Steve
And she's like, there's a big spider and I just got it. And then she like goes up to the web. It is like doing she's like, I just got to find all the bugs. I'm like, I'm sorry. What? And she's like, I know there's tarantulas in California.
00:21:05
Steve
So instead of just like being like normal paranoid of bugs or creatures as most are, she's like,
00:21:10
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:21:14
Sammi
Parisa, it was Parisa.
00:21:14
Steve
actively, actively seeking out the animals. So she's like in the bushes, she like finds a hole and is like poking a stick in it.
00:21:23
Sammi
I can't believe I missed this whole thing, I got to go back and watch it.
00:21:25
Steve
And then at one point she's like, ah! And then she's like, ah, it's just a lizard. I'm like, girl, can we, why why are you looking for trouble? This does not seem like, what what is your best case scenario?
00:21:35
Steve
That you you find a giant tarantula that you don't want to touch or be near?
00:21:41
Sammi
That is so funny.
00:21:41
Steve
It was incredible.
00:21:43
Sammi
I can't believe I missed that. Sorry, everyone.
00:21:44
Steve
Yeah. So I was completely befuddled, but at the same time I was like, I love you.
00:21:45
Sammi
Well, well that's OK.
00:21:48
Steve
i Okay.
00:21:49
Sammi
So Parisa. So that makes sense because she's our vision boarding crystal girly PowerPoint.
00:21:53
Steve
Oh yeah. Crystals, uh, somehow has a steady job.
00:21:55
Sammi
Yeah, Queen.
00:21:57
Steve
It lives in Birmingham, Michigan, which is a very like upper crust city to be in.
00:22:00
Sammi
Yeah, she's a pediatric behavior analyst and she's like, I got to find all the bugs.
00:22:01
Steve
So love her. who Yeah, it's wild.
00:22:07
Sammi
OK, that's amazing. I have to watch that. Sorry. One of the reasons is I'm actually on like media deprivation again this week, but now I'm looking at all these websites, which is what I mean, it's for it's for a purpose.
00:22:13
Steve
Okay.
00:22:18
Sammi
um So I was like, I have to watch it live, but I just got back from this field trip and I was hungry. And so I like ran downstairs and like grabbed hummus and then I came back up and I heard her say like, Well, I'm going to be here with the tarantula as well.
00:22:29
Sammi
She's on her date. And I was like, what's happening? I was gone for one minute and like something happened. um But anyway, so this is like the date with Alex and they're at the Beverly Center.
00:22:39
Sammi
And I didn't know the Beverly Center was a mall. So now I know that I've never been to the Beverly Center.
00:22:43
Steve
yeah Quite a treat. It's a mall.
00:22:47
Sammi
Yeah.
00:22:47
Steve
It's any mall you've ever been to.
00:22:48
Sammi
Yeah. and That's what it looked like. But you know, what's exciting is I do I don't feel like they've had a we're all alone in a mall date before.
00:22:57
Steve
No, and this one was weird to me, okay?
00:22:58
Sammi
Yeah.
00:23:01
Steve
So I'm like, oh, this is great. They're all alone in a mall and I'm thinking like, it's gonna be a like a shopping date or whatever.
00:23:09
Sammi
Yes, that's what I wrote down. I was like, oh, it's a shopping date.
00:23:11
Steve
Yeah.
00:23:12
Sammi
And then I was like, it's not a shopping date.
00:23:13
Steve
And I was like, this early, that's exciting. And then it's not a shopping date.
00:23:16
Sammi
Yes.
00:23:17
Steve
It's a, we're in the mall date.
00:23:19
Sammi
Let's jump on beds.
00:23:20
Steve
What? We we couldn't, this is what we have?
00:23:23
Sammi
Let's chase around. It's like that's the other thing. OK, so first of all, Maybe they did this in the past. I don't remember this in the past.
00:23:30
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:23:31
Sammi
It could have definitely happened. But it's like in the early to mid 2000s, a mall date would be more exciting because more stores would be open in the mall ah for them to go to.
00:23:39
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:23:41
Sammi
um These days, it's like even in popular malls, you're hard pressed to find every store occupied with something or you'll find like repeats or whatever.
00:23:48
Steve
Yes.
00:23:51
Sammi
And it's not like they're at the Mall of America, which is one of the closest malls to me now, which is weird.
00:23:53
Steve
No. Oh my God. Do you know what this felt like?
00:23:58
Steve
God. Yeah. They got like camp Snoopy there and that's not camp Snoopy anymore.
00:24:01
Sammi
It's not Camp Soompy anymore.
00:24:02
Steve
Now it's like Nickelodeon adventure or whatever.
00:24:03
Sammi
Yeah, something.
00:24:04
Steve
I don't know.
00:24:04
Sammi
Well, well we' we've talked about the Queen Spinner shell shock, right?
00:24:04
Steve
Whatever.
00:24:09
Steve
Mm-hmm. I think so. You and I have.
00:24:10
Sammi
Okay.
00:24:10
Steve
I i don't know. We've talked about other the show, but.
00:24:11
Sammi
Okay. Well, I mean, just saying, if you go on Wednesdays or I think Sundays, you can go see the queen spinner of shell shock in action.
00:24:16
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:24:19
Sammi
It's the most impressive thing I've ever seen in my life. I'm going to be really honest. She does like 60 spins in like one ride and she counts her spins every time.
00:24:27
Steve
See, this is something, that this is what you can see at the Mall of America, yeah.
00:24:28
Sammi
Yeah. That's that mall of America culture.
00:24:33
Steve
ah So ah it just kind of hit me, but this one-on-one mall date was extremely like bachelor COVID season coded to me.
00:24:43
Sammi
Yes.
00:24:43
Steve
Like,
00:24:44
Sammi
Yeah, it would totally. I mean, that's what it felt like. It's like that would have been more exciting than just being like, we're doing everything at NIMA colon, you know, which was fine, I guess.
00:24:54
Sammi
oh Well, since Matt's been on everybody's mind lately and in everybody's mouth, um that sounds wrong.
00:24:54
Steve
ah
00:24:59
Steve
Hmm.
00:25:00
Sammi
Um, his name has been in their mouth.
00:25:02
Steve
Well.
00:25:03
Sammi
Um, uh, you know, what's interesting? Uh, so this is like a little meta commentary. Uh, we talked about that whole situation on the last episode at the very end.
00:25:13
Sammi
And I was like, let's not clip that and then change my mind because now the tides are finally turning and people are like, actually remember all the racism that Rachel did?
00:25:24
Steve
a
00:25:24
Sammi
And I'm like, Oh, I forgot about All of I remembered some of it. I didn't remember all of it, but I knew that I didn't like it. um And I was like, oh, it's worse than I remember.
00:25:32
Steve
Yeah.
00:25:34
Sammi
it and And now everyone's starting to go, actually, why are we all acting like she is innocent and without fault? And I'm like, there you go. There you go. OK, you came back around.
00:25:44
Sammi
I was waiting because I was like, I don't want people that come, you know, come at us with pitchforks or whatever. But now people are saying to go, actually, that was weird, wasn't it? Um, but yeah, the Malday, like, it could have been like, you know, you go to like the Chicago suburbs.
00:25:59
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:26:01
Sammi
Chicago just catches Chicago just catches strays every episode now.
00:26:01
Steve
Boy, my favorite.
00:26:05
Sammi
But you know what I mean? They've got like those those like elevated malls, you know, where it's like you go and there's like designer stuff, um but there's still like a.
00:26:09
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:26:13
Steve
Yeah. Get yourself a Swarovski crystal.
00:26:16
Sammi
Well, I'm talking like, you know, there's like a product store or whatever, you know, things like that.
00:26:19
Steve
Yeah. Fancy pants. Yeah.
00:26:20
Sammi
There's like some regular stuff and then there's like designer stuff and there's still a food court. Like I can't remember the name of that one, but it's probably like woodland, blah, blah, blah, something like that.
00:26:25
Steve
Yeah. Yeah, you can give me Prada, but I still gotta have my Sbarro, so.
00:26:30
Sammi
Yeah, exactly. So like there's a lot of malls like that. Well, now I need to see what kind of stores are in the Beverly Center to see how how screwed she got.
00:26:40
Steve
Hmm.
00:26:40
Sammi
This is it's a premier shopping and dining destination. Oh, my gosh, that's so oh, wait, no, nine I got excited.
00:26:45
Steve
I remember it being pretty nice, but I haven't been there in a very long time, so.
00:26:49
Sammi
Well, I'm like, if they had fancy stuff, I mean, there's like, I don't know. There's Balenciaga. Well, ones yeah. But you know what I mean? There's Burberry. There's there's like Coach.
00:26:56
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:26:58
Sammi
There's I mean, there's like there's like Dolce and Gabbana. There's like designer stores.
00:27:02
Steve
No, they could they could bear, they couldn't get the rights to anything.
00:27:03
Sammi
And and they just like they went inside a footlocker.
00:27:05
Steve
They got the rights to like the, yeah.
00:27:08
Sammi
That was sad.
00:27:10
Steve
And like the, the mattress store, like nobody want to do a brand partnership here.
00:27:12
Sammi
Yeah.
00:27:15
Steve
Come on.
00:27:15
Sammi
better change it yeah there's like that's what i'm saying there's like all yeah there there is a prada see what am my what am i telling you and they've got that sprinkle maybe they got that sprinkles machine that's that plays that music really loud when you grab a cupcake makes you regret ordering a cupcake they got Versace they got wetzles pretzels um yeah it's like they could have
00:27:18
Steve
Mattress Mart.
00:27:22
Steve
No, God.
00:27:35
Steve
You know, I'm ride or die for Auntie Annie's. Don't bring that wetzel to my house.
00:27:37
Sammi
Yeah. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Same. Absolute same. But like, it's so weird. Like, yeah, there's, there's plenty of stores here that could have like, they could have worked with and they could have stayed openly to do something.
00:27:52
Sammi
So that's kind of sad.
00:27:53
Steve
Nope. Nope.
00:27:55
Sammi
And they're like, let's just chase around on those.
00:27:55
Steve
We're going to just do like mall horses or whatever.
00:27:57
Sammi
Like, yeah. Yeah. yeah They're like, let's chase around on these things and jump on. They didn't really do a lot like,
00:28:03
Steve
No, no.
00:28:05
Sammi
alone in a mall, like mall to yourself is like, I think a lot of millennials dreams come true.
00:28:11
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:28:11
Sammi
And, and I got excited. And then I was like, this did not leave, like, live up to my expectations.
00:28:17
Steve
No, it's it it went from like, oh, wow, this is going to be a big, cool, like unbelievably massive swing for a first date to like, this is profoundly lame.
00:28:18
Sammi
No.
00:28:29
Steve
Just leave leave leave the COVID dates at home, OK?
00:28:29
Sammi
Yeah, it was just kind of sad.
00:28:33
Sammi
But I think, OK, do you think that Grant is one of the best performers we've had in Bachelor Nation?
00:28:43
Steve
in terms of like just on-camera talent, like and it like he can sing, he can dance, he can basketball, he can be handsome on TV.
00:28:50
Sammi
Yeah.
00:28:51
Steve
Yeah, he is good at that, which did not come through as much when he was on The Bachelorette.
00:28:53
Sammi
Yeah.
00:28:57
Steve
So again, shout out to production for seeing him and and you know what his talents are. um But yeah, he's he is a talented guy. He is a guy who should be on TV.
00:29:09
Steve
So look, he is.
00:29:11
Sammi
Yeah. Well, you know, it's, I mean, cause this is what I'm going to say. Like even people, like, who is that guy? Jed, Judd, Jed Panis season.
00:29:19
Steve
Yeah. Are you talking about Jed from, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. the The guy who plays guitar and he's just like, oh, Hannah B, I'm going to serenade you and then smooch a lot of other women.
00:29:22
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I feel like he wasn't like that was his job.
00:29:32
Steve
Yeah.
00:29:32
Sammi
And I don't think he was as good as Grant. That's my point. Like a lot of the times when people and this comes from someone who's like. Classically doing musician, I'm saying um what I'm saying is like a lot of times when people perform on TV, on these shows, even if they can be good in certain contexts, like it just comes off like they're straining their voice too much or they're a little off pitch.
00:29:52
Sammi
It just feels like kind of cringy. You know what I mean?
00:29:55
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:29:56
Sammi
And I'm like, I feel uncomfortable watching this.
00:29:58
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:29:58
Sammi
I don't want to watch this. But like, what I liked about Grant's performance um from a classically and trained musician standpoint, no, um is that he stayed on tune.
00:30:09
Sammi
He didn't strain his voice.
00:30:09
Steve
Now, that's the key.
00:30:10
Sammi
He stayed within like his range. And and he was just like very casual with it. Like he was literally like just like making up a little song on the spot.
00:30:17
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:30:18
Sammi
And then he's like, I just made this up. And she was like, he didn't. He's like, yeah, I don't know. And it was just like, no big deal, whatever. And I was like, that I think that to me feels so much more talented than these people who've come on the show.
00:30:30
Sammi
And it's mostly men um who are like, here's the curated song that I wrote for the show. And then I'm going to sing it like this and you're going to be really uncomfortable.
00:30:41
Sammi
And
Emotional Pressures and Comparisons
00:30:42
Sammi
I'm like, I don't like this at all.
00:30:42
Steve
Yeah. And I'm just watching my TV like cringing and trying to c chug as much white wine as I can to dull the pain of watching it.
00:30:44
Sammi
um
00:30:50
Sammi
Yeah, it's just like like really breathy and weird and and like, yeah, no.
00:30:51
Steve
Yes.
00:30:53
Steve
Mm hmm. Don't like it. Don't like it.
00:30:55
Sammi
So like I like that yeah anyway. So I was like, I like this. I also feel like um they boosted like they mixed it well, like they boosted his voice a little bit.
00:31:03
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:31:05
Sammi
Like, I don't know. So shout out to the editors and also shout out to Grant because I I think he was just like very on pitch and that's nice because we don't always get that. And it was not painful.
00:31:15
Steve
That's right.
00:31:16
Sammi
So thank you for not being painful.
00:31:17
Steve
Grant, he's got real talent. For real. It's good.
00:31:21
Sammi
For real, it's not annoying. um Yeah, so I was like, wow, I was actually very surprised.
00:31:23
Steve
Now,
00:31:26
Sammi
And it wasn't like the most amazing song in the world or anything like that, but he was just like he was just like farting around. Did you know, by the way, how good Jen is at piano?
00:31:35
Steve
no I had no idea.
00:31:36
Sammi
She's fantastic.
00:31:37
Steve
Oh, again, it was never showcased here.
00:31:38
Sammi
Yeah, she's just like, well, yeah, it's it was on like, I think it was on one of Sasha's like TikToks. Like she just sits down at a piano and she's kind of like, like fucking around for a second. And then all of a sudden she like goes into like a whole thing and she's like all over the piano.
00:31:51
Steve
Hmm.
00:31:52
Sammi
And I'm like, wow.
00:31:54
Steve
Good for her.
00:31:54
Sammi
Yeah. And then she was just like, and then she did that little, you know, smile like, Oh, did I just, did I just like show you how talented I am again?
00:32:00
Steve
Oh, wow. Am I amazing at something?
00:32:03
Sammi
Like, first of all, she's a great dancer. And then she was just like, yeah, also I'm excellent and piano. And I was like, damn, like, and you never got to see that on the show. So I was like, wow, look at you. Anyway, um, yeah, so I think that's all I had.
00:32:16
Sammi
Um, let's see. Yes. I miss. Oh, I miss a little of some of Alex's backstory as well. She said she was talking about family stuff and I miss it because I was trying to do two things I wanted yesterday.
00:32:29
Sammi
Bad me. So I don't know if there's anything there, but I have that they slowed danced in a mall and that was the end.
00:32:31
Steve
Hmm.
00:32:35
Steve
Yeah. And maybe there's fireworks outside. Who knows?
00:32:39
Sammi
Yeah, who knows? But they did. But instead, then said they get like the animated rotating rows.
00:32:40
Steve
Because they were in a mall.
00:32:45
Steve
Yeah.
00:32:45
Sammi
That's what they got instead.
00:32:46
Steve
Come on, guys. What is?
00:32:47
Sammi
I mean, they couldn't even go to a mall with like an ice skating rink.
00:32:49
Steve
Nope.
00:32:50
Sammi
Like, come on.
00:32:51
Steve
Nope.
00:32:51
Sammi
Oh, by the way, I watched one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life the other day.
00:32:56
Steve
Oh, do tell.
00:32:57
Sammi
Um, it's called look away. I don't know if you've heard about it, but it's like, it's like something about like evil twins and mirrors or something like that.
00:33:00
Steve
No idea what that is.
00:33:05
Steve
Fun.
00:33:05
Sammi
But here it was, um, my letterbox review said something like he's over here officer. If that gives you a feel for like how creepy I felt watching it.
00:33:14
Steve
Hmm.
00:33:15
Sammi
Um, It's not fun. It was like creepy uncle made this movie. But the best part about the movie was for some reason. OK, like you've seen she's all that. I know you've seen she's all that.
00:33:25
Steve
Yeah, of course.
00:33:26
Sammi
You know what? Like the part of she's all that when it's like prom or whatever and they're like, OK, everybody, here's the dance that we've all been rehearsing as an entire school. Let's all do it together.
00:33:37
Sammi
And you're like, when did you do this?
00:33:37
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:33:40
Sammi
How did you get everyone to do this? Why does everybody know this dance? I know you're like, just like we rehearsed. And I'm like, that doesn't explain it.
00:33:47
Steve
Now.
00:33:47
Sammi
Like that would be a logistical nightmare. What do you mean the whole school knows this dance? Like that doesn't make any sense.
00:33:52
Steve
Now, unless it's the Macarena.
00:33:53
Sammi
In this, yeah, and in this movie, it's, yeah, but that was like a, it was like a complicated, like,
00:33:59
Steve
No, I know.
00:34:02
Sammi
proprietary dance that Usher choreographed.
00:34:05
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:34:06
Sammi
But anyway, in this movie, the version of that is like, they're all ice skaters.
00:34:13
Steve
Oh.
00:34:14
Sammi
It's a whole school of ice skaters. And so their school dance is on an ice skating rink. And if you don't know how to skate, you're gonna look like a real asshole. And I was like, that's the weirdest choice you could have made.
00:34:28
Steve
Damn, ah yeah, you better not be like the boyfriend who goes to another school, boy, you'd be in trouble.
00:34:29
Sammi
Yeah.
00:34:33
Steve
If I showed up and there's a skating rink, I'd be like, I need one of those, like, you know, they they're usually shaped like penguins. They got little like handles on them.
00:34:39
Sammi
Yeah.
00:34:40
Steve
And then you, like, you just ice skate with that in front of you.
00:34:42
Sammi
Yeah.
00:34:43
Steve
That's what I would need. I can't, I, my thing is, is like, I can actually stand up and I can go, but I never figured out how to stop.
00:34:44
Sammi
Yeah.
00:34:49
Steve
And that's kind of a problem, especially in like a public space with sharp objects attached to your feet.
00:34:51
Sammi
Yeah.
00:34:54
Sammi
You do need to know this stuff. Just go like this um or go like this, you know, you know, pizza, french fry kind of not really can go like this and then I'll stop.
00:34:58
Steve
Just kind of get we're just fall. I fall a lot.
00:35:05
Steve
Yeah.
00:35:07
Sammi
Anyway, no, I'm like, ah yeah, I'm decent at ice skating.
00:35:08
Steve
You got to make the noise.
00:35:12
Sammi
Thank God. um So I would have been OK at this school. But ah yeah, I was like, what a weird choice to put in a movie that like everybody knows how to ice skate except for like the main character.
00:35:15
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:35:22
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:35:23
Sammi
And so they use that to like punish her or whatever. Anyway, um don't watch that movie, though.
00:35:26
Steve
Super weird.
00:35:27
Sammi
It's terrible. I give it a half of a star.
00:35:30
Steve
Oh, wait, but transition to the next, the the next group date, because talking about coordinated dances.
00:35:30
Sammi
um Yes.
00:35:36
Sammi
Yes, OK, OK, I have a question for you.
00:35:38
Steve
Okay.
00:35:38
Sammi
Well, number one, I wrote down but the only one of the other things that I posted on Blue Sky was, wait, Mario's here checks calendar because I'm like, what year is it that Mario's on the show?
00:35:50
Sammi
Again, we're going to malls like we know we're headed into another recession. OK, we're going into malls and Mario's on the show. What is going on?
00:35:56
Steve
Yeah.
00:35:57
Sammi
What is going on?
00:35:57
Steve
Also, here's the woman who invented the Pussycat dolls. It's like, <unk> we're on the verge of the 2008 housing crisis now.
00:36:01
Sammi
Yes, she can't let that go. OK.
00:36:05
Sammi
Yeah, that's what I feel. I'm like, you are in danger. You are in danger. um But yeah, OK, my question is, do you feel I don't know enough about R and&B? OK, so maybe I'm naive.
00:36:20
Steve
Yeah. Good thing you're asking me. Go ahead.
00:36:21
Sammi
good Two white people ask each other.
00:36:24
Steve
Yeah.
00:36:25
Sammi
No. Okay. But it felt like it just felt like a mismatch, but maybe it's because like my idea of R and&B is like very slow paced and like lots of silk flowing in the wind.
00:36:26
Steve
You know, it stands for rhythm and blues.
00:36:34
Steve
Oh, you look the slope. You need that. You need that Keith sweat.
00:36:38
Sammi
Yeah.
00:36:39
Steve
Shit.
00:36:39
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah. That's, but that's what like, but Mario was there and then it was like pussycat dolls and it just felt like two different tempos trying to combine into one. Am I wrong? I could be wrong.
00:36:48
Steve
it
00:36:48
Sammi
I could be very off.
00:36:49
Steve
Everything about this was a colossal disaster.
00:36:51
Sammi
It just felt like a weird mismatch of things that they were trying to convince us went together.
00:36:56
Steve
Yeah.
00:36:57
Sammi
And I'm like, now I could be an out of touch white lady. It's happened many times before, but like, this doesn't make any sense to me.
00:37:04
Steve
No, no, no. And I don't know if this was like editing a colossal lack of talent or or what.
00:37:05
Sammi
Okay.
00:37:11
Steve
But the way that it's presented is I don't know. Like imagine you had all the ingredients to make a delicious cake. But in this case, instead of a delicious cake, it's a girl group.
00:37:22
Steve
You've got fun outfits that I'm unsure if they're like retro intentionally or just kind of like vaguely ugly. um You've got the Pussycat dolls. You got Mario. You've got all these girls and they got to like write their song lyrics and stuff and but but like no one ever comes together to like do actual choreo or like there's no like shared moments there's no shared choruses it's just like a line and a beat and then it's like okay go out there and rap kind of shitty
00:37:55
Sammi
Yeah, it just felt like it just felt a little too fast for the type of song I thought they would be writing. Like the tempo felt too fast.
00:38:02
Steve
Yeah. And there was no song. It was literally like, it was just a random beat at a, at a faster than it probably should have been tempo.
00:38:05
Sammi
Right.
00:38:11
Steve
And the, but, but yeah, like, where's the, the girl group stuff? You got pussycat dolls, lady, and you're not going to give me like a little bit of coordinated dancing at all? At all?
00:38:20
Sammi
like you Like they learned how to do it though. And then, and there were two women who actually like sang and sang on beat and made it sound like it could actually go with the backing track.
00:38:25
Steve
Yeah.
00:38:30
Steve
yeah
00:38:36
Steve
Yeah, so Rebecca.
00:38:36
Sammi
And yeah, Rebecca was one and the other one was Carolina.
00:38:43
Steve
Yeah, Carolina, who won? She ended up winning.
00:38:44
Sammi
Yeah, Carolina and Rebecca were the only two who actually did the thing that I thought they were supposed to do.
00:38:52
Steve
Yeah, I would also say they are the only two who tried.
00:38:53
Sammi
Yeah.
00:38:56
Steve
ah Like, everybody else was the weakest shit ever.
00:38:56
Sammi
Yes. Yeah. And they actually did try. Yeah.
00:39:00
Sammi
Mm hmm.
00:39:00
Steve
Like, don't, I'm sorry, I i i know you're like, haha, I can't sing, Teehee.
00:39:05
Steve
Try, fucking try. Just go out there and do something. And none of them did, they're like, I can't rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you.
00:39:16
Steve
Like, that's not, you can't do that shit.
00:39:19
Sammi
Yeah.
00:39:19
Steve
No. And our winners, you know what they did? Rebecca, she goes out there. She tries to sing a little bit. She's got some thoughtful lyrics. She ah writes ah Mrs.
00:39:28
Sammi
Yeah.
00:39:28
Steve
ah What should we call it on on Mrs. Ellis?
00:39:31
Sammi
With Ellis, I was like, it's Ellis, right?
00:39:33
Steve
Yeah, Alice, Grand Alice.
00:39:33
Sammi
Yeah.
00:39:34
Steve
Yeah, she writes Mrs. Alice on the on the back. A little bit of effort. What does Carolina do?
00:39:37
Sammi
Yeah.
00:39:39
Steve
not Not a ton of talent either. It's quite clear to me, but you know what she is talented at? ah Speaking seductively in Spanish and grinding her ass on the man that she is out to get.
00:39:45
Sammi
Being bilingual. Yeah.
00:39:51
Steve
And I respect that. If you can't sing, grind the ass.
00:39:58
Sammi
Oh, this is gonna become a clip.
00:40:00
Steve
this
00:40:00
Sammi
Uh, anyway.
00:40:03
Sammi
The ranting. Um, clip that, clip that.
00:40:08
Steve
this this is all This is all my hatred for Chicago food, food but fueled into something's more positive, I guess.
00:40:08
Sammi
Uh, anyway.
00:40:13
Sammi
yeah but yeah so i would yeah i was just confused because i'm like i don't know because it's like mario came out he sang a song that was slower paced that yeah r and b slow jam and then it's like what are the pussycat dolls this is arguably faster paced and a different feel and i don't know if i would call the pussycat dolls r and b i guess i always thought of them as like pop but maybe
00:40:19
Steve
Yeah.
00:40:33
Steve
Yeah, she's a pop girl group, whatever, you know.
00:40:34
Sammi
Maybe I'm like out of touch. I don't know. And so then I was just like, this feels. Yeah, this feels wrong and weird, but at least two of them tried. And yeah, they're the only ones who did. And so then when they were like, great job, ladies, I'm like, you are lying to all these women.
00:40:43
Steve
Yeah.
00:40:48
Steve
yeah
00:40:48
Sammi
They did not do a great job. They kind of phoned it in. And maybe it's like they had no time to do it. This is what it felt like. This would have felt like to me. It felt like the Pussycat Dolls lady and Mario were like, yes, we would love to be on the show.
00:41:01
Sammi
And they. They were planning them for different days, but they're like, this is literally the only day we are both available. And so they're like, we'll make it work.
00:41:09
Steve
yeah
00:41:10
Sammi
We'll do it in the same day. It's fine.
00:41:12
Steve
or like the space they rented, they they only had it for an hour.
00:41:12
Sammi
But they like wanted one of them to come later. Yeah.
00:41:16
Steve
So they're like, okay, so um we're gonna we're gonna shoot B roll.
00:41:16
Sammi
Yeah.
00:41:19
Steve
We're gonna do this. You have 20 minutes to sit down and write a song, go.
00:41:23
Sammi
That's what it felt like. It just felt like they had absolutely no time.
00:41:24
Steve
Now.
00:41:26
Sammi
Like a lot of, time especially cause that's what I'm saying. Like you think if it's Mario and it's an R and B song and it's like, then you'd see like the segments of them being like, I really wanted to connect with how I feel in my heart.
00:41:37
Sammi
And what I wanted to write down was an expression of like where I see us going and what I think love is and dadadada like, that's what you would expect from a segment like that.
00:41:44
Steve
Mmhmm.
00:41:46
Sammi
And then, yeah, it was just kind of like, I can't even imitate the way that most of these women did this. It was so bad.
00:41:53
Steve
It was so bad.
00:41:54
Sammi
It was so bad.
00:41:54
Steve
And then the the real thing that drove me nuts is like, yes, the girl who just ended up like mounting the bachelor and making out with him one, which is like the cheapest win ever. Sure.
00:42:04
Steve
But no one tried.
00:42:04
Sammi
Yeah.
00:42:05
Steve
So what are you going to do?
00:42:06
Sammi
Exactly. But that's the thing. That's the theme already.
00:42:08
Steve
And then they all got mad about it. They all got mad. They're like, I can't I can't watch her kiss.
00:42:10
Sammi
Yes.
00:42:13
Steve
I can't watch her kiss him. It's what is it? Fucking weak to you can do it.
00:42:17
Sammi
They are all acting. brand spanking new, like, you know, that's the thing.
00:42:20
Steve
I know.
00:42:21
Sammi
They're like, they're like, I'm sorry. You pull him away to get more time with him. You kiss him strategically in a group date.
00:42:25
Steve
Yeah.
00:42:27
Sammi
It's like, have you not watched the show for 20 years?
00:42:30
Steve
Yeah, exactly.
00:42:30
Sammi
Like I have. Oh, I guess not. You're kind of little, but like you could have.
00:42:33
Steve
And this is not the week leading into hometowns, okay? We have not formed bonds. Zero bonds have been formed.
00:42:40
Sammi
Right. This is when you've got to take the time that you can get to get out in front because the you know, the the nose are the are a bigger number.
00:42:43
Steve
Yeah.
00:42:49
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:42:49
Sammi
So you've got to like try to make it through to the next round of the next round.
00:42:52
Steve
Exactly.
00:42:52
Sammi
And then you have more one on one time. and You can make a more lasting impression. Like this is literally how you survive the early rounds of the show if you don't have an early one on one.
00:43:00
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:43:00
Sammi
And like whether you like it or not, this is still a game and you still have to play it um anyway. By the way, ah should we recap the latest season of traders once at some point?
00:43:13
Sammi
I think we should.
00:43:13
Steve
Absolutely.
00:43:14
Sammi
OK, because I've I've been seeing so many clips of Gaggy and I'm like, I love it.
00:43:17
Steve
who
00:43:18
Sammi
I just love how gab what Gabby has become since the show. We loved her on the show. But since the show, I just think about how amazing ah how much she is just blossomed.
00:43:28
Steve
She's
00:43:30
Steve
Yeah, she's great.
00:43:31
Sammi
yeah
00:43:31
Steve
She's amazing on that show.
00:43:31
Sammi
yeah anyway and we don't know not gonna speculate we could speculate and and we did well maybe we will maybe we won't anyway
00:43:32
Steve
Also, we could talk about is Tom Sandoval just dumb and sweaty or is he on drugs? We don't know. Impossible to say.
00:43:42
Steve
Yeah, perhaps all three.
00:43:44
Sammi
Yeah, well, I've heard them say they're like, it wasn't that hot in that room.
00:43:48
Steve
Yep.
00:43:49
Sammi
That's all. That's all I will say. OK, anyway. um Yeah, so that ah why did I scroll all the way up?
00:43:56
Steve
Hmm.
00:43:57
Sammi
OK, Carolina wins. Yes, I said right choice. ah Both of them did well, but that's fine.
00:44:00
Steve
Love it.
00:44:03
Sammi
And then, yeah, there's like this. OK, the women are already breaking down. Yeah, that was the thing that was weird. It wasn't like that they were just mad. Some of them were like crying.
00:44:12
Steve
Yeah.
00:44:12
Sammi
And I'm like, you just met this man.
00:44:14
Steve
I know, and and and what's your what's your face? ah New Jersey boxers, all upset, Allie Jo. She's upset about everything. um Dina, the hard-nosed Chicago lawyer who's like 32 and is like too old to be this emotionally distraught over something so silly is just like, oh, in all my years as a Chicago lawyer.
00:44:29
Sammi
Yeah.
00:44:34
Steve
ah It's like they're all just completely spiraling, spiraling.
00:44:39
Sammi
yeah
00:44:40
Steve
Why?
00:44:42
Sammi
I missed, maybe it was, I don't know if it was Rose. I don't know who the hell it was. There was somebody that was talking to Grant and she's like, I have a crush and I missed who that was. I'm sorry. Again, I was very hungry. Okay. I was like.
00:44:57
Sammi
I was literally like at commercial breaks like running up and down and like grabbing like hummus and like little bits of food just Trying to survive the show and we don't have an antenna on our downstairs TV. It's very hard here hear Anyway, so Latia was talking to Grant. um Oh, this is interesting I missed the part to where he said he said to her that like you probably don't get told no and that really bothered her and good for her for um saying hey actually that was kind of triggering and I didn't like that because I've been told no a lot and like the reason I'm here is because I got told no because I got dumped so Yeah, I get told plenty and and he was and but he was like cool about it and he was like, you know what?
00:45:31
Steve
Yeah, what? Isn't that the idea?
00:45:39
Sammi
Yeah, okay. You're right I am so sorry and this is valid and I'm sorry that you've had that hurt and he was like pretty cool about it and I think he
00:45:45
Steve
Yeah.
00:45:48
Sammi
treated it the way you would expect and um He listened to her and she felt validated and it was good So what could have been a bad situation with like a shittier man was just like yeah, you know what actually?
00:45:50
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:45:59
Sammi
Yeah, shouldn't have said that. Thank you um and then ah Carolina talks to Grant and she's like I feel guilty because the women are upset and they like cried about me kissing you and he was like, uh That's weird.
00:46:02
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:46:13
Sammi
He was like
00:46:14
Steve
Yeah.
00:46:14
Sammi
Yeah. He's like, we just had fun. Like, why would you feel guilty about that?
00:46:17
Steve
Exactly. Let me tell you something.
00:46:18
Sammi
He's like, the nothing. Yeah.
00:46:20
Steve
There's a few things in this world you never apologize for. And one of them is for being a hot, assertive Puerto Rican woman. Okay. Like just, just go with that. You're, you're good. Not that you need to hear it from me, Carolina, but you're fine.
00:46:31
Steve
Like it's it's ridiculous.
00:46:32
Sammi
Yeah.
00:46:34
Steve
Um, and I'm glad that Grant was fine with it too.
00:46:34
Sammi
Yeah. He was just.
00:46:36
Steve
So it's
00:46:37
Sammi
Yeah, he's like, it's totally like normal. It's a part of the yeah, it's a part of all this stuff. And he's like, he's like, we are just having fun.
00:46:42
Steve
literally the game.
00:46:44
Sammi
And if they give you trouble, you'd let me know because I will.
00:46:49
Steve
Yeah, it's gonna get their ass.
00:46:49
Sammi
I'll say something about it.
00:46:50
Steve
Yeah, I love that.
00:46:51
Sammi
And she's like, oh, OK. So that was good. Letia got the rose because she shared the most and was the most vulnerable. So.
00:47:00
Steve
Can we talk about Bailey though? Is Bailey okay?
00:47:03
Sammi
Bailey's not okay. Um, no, Bailey's not okay.
00:47:04
Steve
Bailey's not okay.
00:47:07
Sammi
Um, yeah, we're, we're, Oh, I just said she, yeah, she's feeling like not too comfortable. Okay. So she's already like, listen, they're trying to paint me into this corner of being like silly influencer girl.
00:47:20
Sammi
And I don't like it. And I want to actively reject it. And you know, I'm more than just like selfies. Okay. And more than selfies. I'm like a real person. I'm a real person.
00:47:30
Steve
I just think she's a woman of extremes because
00:47:31
Sammi
Yeah.
00:47:34
Steve
i First of all, this is, I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but from what we're showing on television, it's like no one's trying to paint you in any corner. Like I forgot about you for long periods of time. And then to go from like, I need to be taken seriously. I'm not just some fun selfie girl to immediately having your first real conversation with Grant and and just ah just crying, just crying uncontrollably. I'm like, oh no.
00:47:58
Steve
Are you going to be all right? And she's like, sorry, I don't normally cry until the fifth date. I'm like, you have a crying date? Well, don't have that. Don't cry.
00:48:07
Sammi
I...
00:48:08
Steve
It's OK.
00:48:08
Sammi
I cry on the fifth date. You don't cry on the fifth date.
00:48:10
Steve
Yeah.
00:48:13
Sammi
Yeah, that's yeah, that's kind of interesting. I'm looking to see if she posted anything. um
00:48:18
Steve
And i' I'm just, I mean, we're, we're, we're poking a little fun here, but only the sense of like, really like, I know this is like an emotionally strenuous experience. I can only imagine we're still pretty early on.
00:48:31
Steve
I just hope that she can just relax a little bit. Take it. Take a float in that bachelor house pool.
00:48:36
Sammi
Yeah, I don't know.
00:48:37
Steve
You know?
00:48:37
Sammi
Apparently she's already getting crap from people. She said she and like whatever, like this is obviously the character they had her play. I don't think she's like this or anything, but she said she said to my critics, I am listening and I hear you.
00:48:45
Steve
No. now
00:48:50
Sammi
I promise to put the phone down and never use a cell phone ever again. I am typing this from my iPad. Hashtag iPad kid. Hashtag Kim. Stop taking selfies. Hashtag.
00:49:01
Sammi
I love my friends. So she said. So, you know, whatever.
00:49:05
Steve
yeah
00:49:06
Sammi
um Yeah, she she's got. Yeah, she's got cute stuff. She's got cute posts and stuff. um Let's see. All jokes aside, what did she say?
00:49:16
Sammi
She didn't say anything else about like being upset, though. I'll cherish this memory forever. I'm so excited for this journey. Thank you to my friends and family for always inspiring me to be myself, for loving and supporting me and for always loving a good laugh.
00:49:27
Sammi
Mondays are for fabs.
00:49:27
Steve
Yeah.
00:49:29
Sammi
I don't know what that means.
00:49:30
Steve
I don't know what that means either.
00:49:31
Sammi
I don't know, because we're not we're not like young and with it.
00:49:34
Steve
Yeah, not young hip and with it.
00:49:34
Sammi
That's the thing. Yeah, we don't know anything. um But yeah, so anyway, yeah, I don't know. I think she I think, you know, for some some people, like it's a lot of pressure, like it's a weird environment.
00:49:48
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:49:49
Sammi
And, you know, sometimes it's like, yeah, if you haven't pooped or you haven't gotten enough sleep or, your you know, you're dehydrated, you just like start crying like so.
00:49:57
Steve
Now, I'd be in breakdown mode so quick.
00:50:00
Sammi
Yeah.
00:50:01
Steve
It'd be like, snap your fingers, there's Steve having another mentee bee in the corner.
00:50:01
Sammi
Yeah.
00:50:04
Steve
I could not handle it, but I'm also not on the show, so.
00:50:05
Sammi
Yeah. See, yeah, see what i i I feel like if I was on the show, they'd just be like, Where's Sammy? And they'd be like, Oh, she's in that corner over there.
00:50:14
Steve
You'd be with Parisa, like looking for lizards in bushes.
00:50:14
Sammi
Like, yeah ah you so one I'd be like, I'm down. Let's do it.
00:50:20
Steve
Let's find a tarantula. This is great productions like hyperventilating that do not find a tarantula, please.
00:50:22
Sammi
Yeah.
00:50:25
Sammi
I'm like, what does this do? Can I use your camera? and They'd be like, I'd be like, tell me how everything works. Like, because I'd be like, I'm so I'd be like, I'm so bored.
00:50:33
Steve
Yeah. What are the chlorine levels in the pool? oh Yeah.
00:50:38
Sammi
I can't read. Like you need to teach me something or I will decompose. So like I need to be doing something.
00:50:43
Steve
Yeah.
00:50:45
Sammi
um It would be like that. Or I'd be like, oh, I just ah ripped up all my clothes and I'm starting to weave them together because I need to do something with my hands.
00:50:46
Steve
but
00:50:51
Steve
Yeah, lack of stimuli, you would you would spontaneously combust.
00:50:55
Sammi
That would be an issue.
00:50:55
Steve
you you would You would cut your hand and then high five a volleyball and draw a face on it and start talking to it and shit.
00:50:55
Sammi
I would just I'd be in there fidgeting the entire time.
00:51:04
Steve
you would You would not survive.
00:51:06
Sammi
That's the thing. Yeah, that's the problem. It's like if I don't have I mean, that's I'm doing like a media focus. Right. And I'm like, oh, I get to look at Instagram while I'm doing this. withs like
00:51:18
Sammi
And like inputs and outputs, I need them constantly. um Yeah, so that would be the hardest part for me. I think would like, I can, you know, my, my um approach when I'm in like a group setting is always to like, yeah, find the one person that I enjoy enough to spend extended periods of time with, who's like not too, like extroverted and not too negative.
00:51:39
Sammi
Like, yeah, someone who wants to go find bugs, like I'll, yeah, I'll go hang out with you or whatever.
00:51:42
Steve
Mhm.
00:51:44
Sammi
or, yeah, they want to, I don't know, talk about like The Simpsons or something. um and And I'll go do that and stay out of like the big group stuff. I would always be like, yeah, like the one person out by the pool with somebody else or something like that.
00:51:54
Steve
Yeah.
00:51:59
Sammi
um But yeah, I don't know. I just I couldn't do the whole like Like all that stuff like that would and I would also probably be a person who would be in the kitchen and just like cooking and stuff just to deal with like Okay, this is a thing I can do.
00:52:06
Steve
now
00:52:14
Sammi
This is a thing that I you know can control I will make food for everybody and then I will prove my worth So yeah, I would probably do a lot of stuff like that But I would likely lose my mind if I didn't have access to even a book that would be really hard.
00:52:24
Steve
Yeah.
00:52:28
Steve
Yeah.
00:52:29
Sammi
So I Yeah, I don't envy them. And that would probably make me cry. They'd probably be like, I just want to read something. Just let me read something. I'm like sitting in the bathroom reading shampoo bottles because I because I can't do anything else.
00:52:43
Sammi
um But yeah, so anyway, ah yeah, I don't know. I don't think Bailey's OK, but I think she's like not OK in the way that a lot of people are not OK when they do a weird show like this.
00:52:52
Steve
yeah
00:52:53
Sammi
I don't think. I don't think there's anything unusual.
00:52:54
Steve
Totally.
00:52:55
Sammi
I think it's just like, this is a lot actually. um And I ah understand. um But I don't understand because I will never go on a show like that. ah But let's see.
00:53:07
Sammi
So oh, the okay. So I kept missing Beverly's name. And I just wrote the pretty lady in my notes.
00:53:14
Steve
Ha ha! That works too.
00:53:17
Sammi
I was like, that pretty lady is talking again. And I was like, Beverly, Beverly. I feel like they're not showing the names as often as they do sometimes, or I'm just missing the exact moment that they put it up.
00:53:25
Steve
No.
00:53:28
Sammi
um But yeah, so so Beverly was saying she wants to have a ah be with a person who makes her feel supported and safe and and she. Yeah. protecting, hugging, and she's got a kind and warm heart and all that.
00:53:43
Sammi
And so she had a nice moment with Grant, but I spent, I was like trying to take notes and also get her name. I was like, pretty lady. What's her name? Beverly. um and Oh yeah.
00:53:54
Sammi
Ella. So Ella comes out. Ella's one of the, Ella crashed out, like more than Bailey.
00:53:58
Steve
Totally crushed out. More than Bailey even.
00:53:59
Sammi
Ella crashed out.
00:54:00
Steve
Yeah, she was, whew.
00:54:01
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah, so she's okay, like these cape things, these things that are like draping over whatever you I don't what do you call a piece? You wouldn't know.
00:54:10
Steve
we also what Who you asking?
00:54:12
Sammi
Like in a dress that goes across the neck and down the back.
00:54:12
Steve
Oh, the strength guy can't dress himself properly. What do you call a very specific type of accessory for a woman?
00:54:19
Sammi
I literally don't know what that's called because I've like never worn one like it's not a shawl.
00:54:23
Steve
No, I don't.
00:54:25
Sammi
It's not a bolero.
00:54:26
Steve
It's not a cape.
00:54:26
Sammi
It's not. It's not a cape, but it like looks capy. You know what I mean?
00:54:30
Steve
Yeah, it's it's like a ah big flowy scarf.
00:54:33
Sammi
Like, what is that thing? Like, and Bailey wore one, too.
00:54:35
Steve
Exclusively for women and Lenny Kravitz, I don't know what they're called.
00:54:38
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah. Scarf-like thing for fancy dress. Let's see if that that ah results in anything.
00:54:45
Steve
Yeah, and it always it like matches the dress too, like it's like the same, yeah.
00:54:49
Sammi
Yeah. it's like it's like a It's like a half scarf, half cape.
00:54:54
Steve
Shawl thing, but it's not a shawl, because a shawl is like shoulder warming, I would think, I don't know.
00:54:55
Sammi
It's not a shawl, either. Yeah. Shawl cape. fancy dress. Like, what do you call that?
00:55:03
Steve
What do you call it?
00:55:04
Sammi
Everyone's yelling at us what I will figure out what that's called and I will bring it back next week.
00:55:10
Steve
Someone all caps it in the comments. We don't know what we're talking about.
00:55:12
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah. scar Yeah. I literally don't know what that is, but it's a really it's a really popular thing this season to have a dress that also has like a neck portion.
00:55:16
Steve
Anyway, Ella had one.
00:55:24
Sammi
We'll call it because I don't know what to call it.
00:55:25
Steve
even Neck portion.
00:55:27
Sammi
um
00:55:28
Steve
It sounds like you're ah like chopping up chicken gizzards. what do he
00:55:34
Sammi
yeah i I don't know what to call it.
00:55:36
Steve
Another neck portion, please, Sammy.
00:55:40
Sammi
I don't I don't know what to call that, but it's a thing that goes around your neck.
00:55:40
Steve
Yum.
00:55:44
Sammi
I mean, Latia had one and Bailey had one week one.
00:55:46
Steve
yeah
00:55:47
Sammi
Ella had one this week and maybe someone else had one. I can't remember. But it's like it's obviously a popular thing, just like when crushed velvet was popular and everyone was wearing crushed velvet.
00:55:50
Steve
Oh.
00:55:55
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:55:56
Sammi
It's like it's the thing that everyone's wearing this season. And I don't know what it's called.
00:56:00
Steve
Can I tell you what what I knew Ella was cooked?
00:56:03
Sammi
one when the poem wasn't...
00:56:04
Steve
I was like, cause she was very like middle of the pack, middle low. And when she started talking about, she's like, I can, I can just picture him as my husband. I just see him as my husband.
00:56:15
Steve
I'm like, you are so done. You're not getting a roast. It's week two. None of this is real. You're done.
00:56:22
Sammi
Yeah, I mean, it's very like, yeah, and it could be editing, right? But like we haven't seen her at all.
00:56:29
Steve
No, no.
00:56:30
Sammi
So like that's concerning that we haven't
Cultural Perspectives and Contestant Dynamics
00:56:34
Sammi
seen her. And then all of a sudden she's popping up. It's like, yeah, like sometimes people do that as like a Hail Mary or whatever.
00:56:40
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:56:41
Sammi
um I will say a lot of these are just saying the word scarf.
00:56:44
Steve
Just a scarf.
00:56:45
Sammi
Scarf gown. So maybe it is a scarf.
00:56:48
Steve
Maybe there's just scarf, yeah.
00:56:48
Sammi
We're like, we're like, that's not a scarf, but maybe, you know, what's interesting.
00:56:51
Steve
man Oh.
00:56:53
Sammi
I was just learning yesterday about, um, the difference in Eastern and Western cultures in my field trip class.
00:56:59
Steve
oh
00:56:59
Sammi
And we were talking about like, okay, this is so random, but it was like, imagine there's like three items, right? And like the first one was like a cylindrical wooden.
00:57:13
Sammi
like thing, it was like so cylindrical wooden cylinder. I don't know. It's a wooden cylinder and they called it like, they're like, this is a docs or whatever.
00:57:20
Steve
cylindrical cylinder, go on.
00:57:26
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:57:26
Sammi
And then they show like, like a blue cylinder and then like, like a square, like it, you know, it's still like same height, but it's like squared and it's made of wood.
00:57:35
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:57:38
Sammi
And they're like, which one is a docs between the two? So like if I showed you like wooden cylinder and then like blue cylinder yeah versus square.
00:57:48
Steve
or square, I would probably go other cylinder, yeah.
00:57:51
Sammi
Yeah, see, that's and that is interesting because that's like Western mentality that like the same shape means it's like got the same name and they and they did this in like Eastern cultures and they're like, well, it's made of wood.
00:57:59
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:58:04
Sammi
It's the same substance.
00:58:05
Steve
Oh.
00:58:06
Sammi
So that's yeah. Anyway, so that's what that made me think of because I'm like, but it's interesting because we're like we just did it like opposite because we're like it's made of something different. So it can't be a scarf.
00:58:17
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:58:18
Sammi
ah Anyway, and that just made me think of that.
00:58:18
Steve
Yeah.
00:58:20
Sammi
But anyway, so yes, if if not scarf, why a scarf shaped?
00:58:23
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:58:24
Sammi
So ah that's what they're called.
00:58:25
Steve
Exactly.
00:58:27
Sammi
They're called scarves, even though we don't like it. um But yeah, so Ella, Ella definitely like went for it and it did not work.
00:58:34
Steve
Nope.
00:58:35
Sammi
um I don't think I got everybody's name, but I think the biggest thing was like Ella went home and Alicia and did Rebecca go home or did she get a rose?
00:58:45
Steve
but No, Rebecca and Vicky.
00:58:47
Sammi
OK.
00:58:47
Steve
And Vicky is the bottle service girl?
00:58:48
Sammi
And Vicki. Oh, the bottle girl.
00:58:50
Steve
Yeah.
00:58:50
Sammi
I didn't even realize she was so there.
00:58:52
Steve
Yeah, I didn't either.
00:58:53
Sammi
Which is okay.
00:58:53
Steve
I was like, she seems fun. And then she was gone. Rebecca seems really interesting.
00:58:56
Sammi
Okay.
00:58:57
Steve
She seems kind of like, uh, she's got like a, uh, the way she talks. It's this very like soothing, kind of like new age. Like I want her to tell me about a crystal or something. Uh, but yeah.
00:59:09
Sammi
Yeah.
00:59:09
Steve
And then she did really well in, in the dance competition thing, but not, not obviously not for him.
00:59:09
Sammi
Well, she could be a paradise person. Yeah.
00:59:15
Steve
So, you know.
00:59:16
Sammi
Rebecca is an ICU nurse from Dallas and she's never met an animal she didn't like.
00:59:22
Steve
It's nice.
00:59:23
Sammi
She loves to play Scrabble and she, maybe, she is always aims to be the best dressed person in the room.
00:59:24
Steve
Tarantula.
00:59:31
Steve
Okay.
00:59:32
Sammi
Yeah, so that's so that's kind of her. She wants to meet someone gentle hearted like Grant. Well, she did, and now she's got to meet somebody else, I guess. um She's 31 too.
00:59:44
Steve
Oh.
00:59:44
Sammi
um So she's a little older. I mean, let's see, who's like, what's the age spread on this?
00:59:46
Steve
Oh. I don't know, Rebecca see you on paradise. She did well enough.
00:59:51
Sammi
I think she'll make it to paradise.
00:59:51
Steve
I think that's, she's going to land there. Yeah.
00:59:53
Sammi
There's not a lot of like super young people, which is good. Like Natalie's 25, Latia's 31.
01:00:00
Steve
who Yeah.
01:00:02
Sammi
They're all kind of in the same range.
01:00:02
Steve
There's, there's a lot of people in the in the upper twenties, early thirties, but yeah.
01:00:04
Sammi
There's not a lot of spread.
01:00:08
Sammi
there's That's the youngest person, I think.
01:00:10
Steve
Really? Okay. So there's no, there's no super babies. 25 is as as low as we get.
01:00:14
Sammi
Yeah, and Anisie, who's not on anymore, was 32.
01:00:15
Steve
Interesting.
01:00:20
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:00:21
Sammi
Yeah, but everybody is everybody's like 28 to 30 pretty much, or 27 to 30 rather.
01:00:25
Steve
Interesting.
01:00:28
Sammi
um Yeah, that's so interesting. Yeah, the youngest the youngest person is Natalie, um which she doesn't like, she she didn't really grab me as being the youngest either, but that's because she's a PhD student in and that adds years to your life, so that's why.
01:00:32
Steve
Hmm. No. Yeah.
01:00:43
Steve
middle age yeah
01:00:44
Sammi
It's not her fault. It's not her fault.
01:00:45
Steve
yeah
01:00:46
Sammi
Um, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Like Alex is 27 Bailey's 27 Beverly's 30 Chloe's 27 Carolina's 28 kind of give you a picture. Dina's 31.
01:00:56
Sammi
Um, yeah, that's, I don't feel like we've ever had like this narrow of an age range before on the show.
01:01:02
Steve
No, because usually there's a couple of the, you know, there's, there's a few 32 year olds, but then there's a couple of 23 year olds and you're like, okay, and they just gotta, you know, balance each other out.
01:01:03
Sammi
Yeah.
01:01:09
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah, that's so weird. Anyway, didn't know and like the most unique names, Parisa's 29.
01:01:13
Steve
me
01:01:16
Sammi
Oh, man. She said, ah yeah, I forgot. I got to watch that clip again next week when I'm allowed to to see her talk about bugs. um But yeah, anyway, any predictions at this point in the in the season?
01:01:29
Sammi
Also, are we getting a Bravo crossover next week? Is that what's happening?
01:01:32
Steve
Oh, we are.
01:01:33
Sammi
What the hell is happening?
01:01:34
Steve
and let me The only prediction I have for this season is Zoe's gonna keep pissing people off, but what really matters is Steve is gonna be the happiest little boy in the whole world next Monday because Lisa Vanderpump is gonna be on The Bachelor, and it's just all my all my worlds are colliding.
01:01:50
Sammi
I'm like very confused by this because Bravo is like an NBC company, right? Am I wrong?
01:01:58
Steve
No, but there is some crossover because Vanderpump Villa is a Hulu show and Hulu is owned by ABC.
01:02:07
Sammi
Gotcha, gotcha. OK, that makes sense. That makes sense.
01:02:10
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:02:10
Sammi
OK,
Rich People's Priorities and Predictions
01:02:11
Sammi
I'm understanding it now. um Yeah, because I was like.
01:02:14
Steve
This is the insightful stuff I'm here for. This is the first season.
01:02:16
Sammi
Well, and that was like that. And then I got excited because I saw Secret Lives, Warm and Wives is on after this. And I was like, what? And then I was like, oh, it's just the first season. And I got really excited. And then I was like, oh, because it's too low, right?
01:02:28
Sammi
So they're just replaying it on ABC, like, OK, whatever.
01:02:28
Steve
Yeah.
01:02:31
Sammi
So um yeah, but ah ah Hannah Burner, like, I could do without Hannah Burner any moment of my life.
01:02:41
Steve
Sure.
01:02:44
Steve
It's fair.
01:02:45
Sammi
That's I don't know. I just yeah.
01:02:47
Steve
It's That's okay.
01:02:50
Sammi
Never been my favorite. So but that's OK.
01:02:52
Steve
That's okay.
01:02:53
Sammi
Lisa Vanderpump.
01:02:54
Steve
Yeah, they're gonna go to her little doggy boutique and she's gonna be like, ah, my one pet political issue is dogs.
01:02:55
Sammi
That's good.
01:03:02
Steve
It's my favorite thing about rich people.
01:03:04
Sammi
Yeah, it's so weird. Well, I mean, I guess it's better than homeless, not toothless.
01:03:08
Steve
Yeah, I guess so. that's I just love, like they're just like, yeah, what if like we got rich on the back of poor people, but also all I care about is dogs. like what There's a dog without a home, we gotta put that dog in a home.
01:03:20
Sammi
We've got to but like listen, I am like such a dog lady, but like I'm not like that.
01:03:26
Steve
Yeah, no.
01:03:27
Sammi
I'm just not like that. Can't relate. Yeah, it's weird. Did you ever watch the movie Friends with money?
01:03:32
Steve
No.
01:03:33
Sammi
Oh, my gosh. um This is it's ah quite an old movie at this point because I'm old. um Gosh, how old is that movie? It's from 2006.
01:03:44
Steve
Okay.
01:03:45
Sammi
Yeah, because I'm old. I would recommend if you have not seen Friends with Money, watch the movie Friends with Money. It's really good. Apparently, it's on Netflix, so you can get it. Not too and difficult.
01:03:56
Sammi
in a difficult way. But it's about like all of these like rich people, but it's like the best cast ever. It's Catherine Keener, Joan Cusack, Frances McDormand and Jennifer Aniston.
01:04:03
Steve
Oh.
01:04:06
Sammi
Like it's so good. And um it's like rich friends with their like one, like broke friend, like all hanging out and stuff. um And one of the things they talk about this is not a spoiler.
01:04:19
Sammi
It's not really like a movie you can necessarily spoil. It's just kind of like rich people problems. Am I right? It's like one of those shows. um but they're like they're talking about um like a gala that they're doing and they're like why don't you just give the people the money.
01:04:35
Sammi
Like, why do you have to spend $100,000 to do a party to give them $10,000?
01:04:38
Steve
ah To raise money, yeah.
01:04:41
Sammi
Why don't you just give the people the money? And that's like when one of the things there's a lot of moments that have like stuck with me from that movie. But that's like one of the ones that stuck with me from like the beginning.
01:04:51
Sammi
And if you like Nosferatu, Simon McBurney is in it. So there you go.
01:04:55
Steve
Hey.
01:04:56
Sammi
You get to watch him not be like totally, you know, unhinged and like eating rats or whatever.
01:05:04
Steve
Who among us does not love eating a rat?
01:05:04
Sammi
He doesn't eat rats in this one.
01:05:06
Steve
Yeah.
01:05:09
Sammi
But anyway, yeah, I don't think I have any predictions outside of, I do think Chloe and Zoe will continue to outperform. I would like to see a very fun one-on-one date with Parisa.
01:05:15
Steve
Mm hmm.
01:05:18
Sammi
I hope she gets one. I believe that she's good enough to get one.
01:05:21
Steve
Yes.
01:05:22
Sammi
And I don't think I, I don't know if I have any other predictions. I think that's kind of it. But I do think we're gonna see more drama and breakdowns. And I think Ali Jo will um eject from, like self-eject from the show by like putting your foot in her mouth or something.
01:05:38
Steve
I can see that for sure.
01:05:38
Sammi
I don't know. I feel some foreshadowing where it's like maybe there'll be a two on one date and she gets booted.
01:05:42
Steve
She's a boxing teacher, maybe she'll jawjack someone just
01:05:45
Sammi
Yeah, you never know.
01:05:46
Steve
Punch him. and never know
01:05:48
Sammi
You never know. But hey, me and my crisis bangs. We'll see you all next week. And until then, friends, ah take in news, but not too much.
01:06:00
Sammi
Value your sanity and get outside if it's not too cold.
01:06:02
Steve
Don't do needle drugs. None of them. Don't do that. That's like injectable bangs.
01:06:17
Sammi
take a hike or something, but not in a take a hike kind of way.
01:06:20
Steve
Yeah. Take a hike. Take a hike. Get away.
01:06:28
Steve
That's what I'm gonna start yelling at people. Just be like, take a hike. Like nicely.
01:06:33
Sammi
But like you should get outside and take a hike, yeah.
01:06:33
Steve
It's good to get outside. Yeah. Just kind of like breathe. Be, be in nature.
01:06:37
Sammi
Yeah.