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Rose Plate Special: Bachelor in Paradise 2025, Episodes 8-9
10 Plays13 days ago
Believe it or not, we recorded this a couple of days ago, but Sammi is still in recovery mode, getting back into the swing of things after her surgery, so be PATIENT!
If you are curious about the cozy games Sammi talks about, they are available here:
Also here's more info on Sean's dad, you can look it up yourself. We didn't get too much into the ALLEGED scandals.
Also, support Parisa in her amateur chef journey!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Troubles
00:00:16
Sammi
Hello, I'm Sammy.
00:00:17
Steve
Oh, hello!
00:00:20
Sammi
We did not have to start this three times.
00:00:20
Steve
I'm Steve with no technical difficulties.
00:00:24
Sammi
And you're listening to or watching Roseplate Special, the most dramatic, treasure-hunking-ist, I forgot already forgot what I said, scavenger-hunting-ist, three ah um camp-outing-ist recap podcast of The Bachelor ever.
00:00:39
Steve
Ever.
00:00:40
Sammi
Wow, I can't believe the second time was worse than the first when I used the same ones two times. um And hopefully we'll get through this whole recording in
Sammy's Surgery and Recovery Journey
00:00:48
Sammi
one piece. I don't know.
00:00:49
Steve
Yeah, and my fingers crossed.
00:00:49
Sammi
um i think it's I think the technical difficulties are our our podcast is rebelling against us because I didn't do a podcast the night before my surgery.
00:01:00
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:01:00
Sammi
And now it's six days out from my surgery. And it's like, actually, fuck you. ah It's not cool that you were gone and you shouldn't even be recording right now.
00:01:05
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:01:09
Steve
Yeah, you busted ass face.
00:01:12
Sammi
And that's yeah, thanks.
00:01:14
Steve
No, you look fine. My face was way more busted when we recorded. Mm-hmm.
00:01:18
Sammi
and Well, and to that I say thank you. um Yeah, no, I was like so stressed out the night before the surgery. Like my Garmin was saying my stress level is at like a 95 and I felt like I was crawling out of my skin and I could not be relaxed at all.
00:01:35
Sammi
I was just like, I don't know what it's going to be like. I don't know you know. I don't know. yeah Even if it's like, I know it's not that big of a deal. I was only the procedure itself took, I think they said 30 minutes.
00:01:46
Sammi
So I wasn't under for very long.
00:01:47
Steve
I
00:01:48
Sammi
It was very fast. Like, um, it's still like, you know, I got intubated and I had to, you know, like get all ready and they ask you all these questions and you meet an anesthesiologist and they say, do you have a will?
00:02:00
Sammi
And I'm like, Oh, I don't, I should have one.
00:02:03
Steve
should probably do that.
00:02:04
Sammi
I should have one. Um, just give it all to the dogs.
00:02:07
Steve
Wait, this this this counts as a will.
00:02:08
Sammi
Uh,
00:02:10
Steve
Sammy leaves everything to me.
00:02:13
Sammi
You heard it here first, friends.
00:02:14
Steve
That's right.
00:02:14
Sammi
ah Yeah. So I was just like, oh, my gosh. And what if I don't make it and I'll never know what's in the fall jelly box? I'll just never know because I didn't open that email and.
00:02:22
Steve
Nope. Nope. We would have, ah you know, we would have done ah at your funeral, Tuck and I would have like together put it on top of your, of your coffin.
00:02:28
Sammi
Open the jelly box.
00:02:32
Steve
And we just would have let it go down and into the ground, never opening it.
00:02:36
Sammi
Oh, wow.
00:02:37
Steve
let Letting that secret fly with you to heaven.
00:02:40
Sammi
Wow, that's beautiful. Yeah. yeah So anyway, I was like very nervous and scared, but I feel pretty good for being six days out from surgery. Like um I definitely feel kind of congested right now just because my nose is like super swollen. i can't feel some of like the front of my mouth like it's numb. And they're like, it's going to be like that for weeks to months.
00:03:02
Sammi
I knew that going in. I have like a weird cut on the inside of my mouth that like gets irritated every time I eat, you know, it's like, but I want to eat.
00:03:10
Steve
Yeah.
00:03:10
Sammi
But anyway, um and I couldn't believe it yesterday. They took out. OK, this won't be that gory, but it will be a little gross. If you're squeamish, just skip a couple of minutes. i For those of you who don't know, I had a septoplasty. I have a deviated. and Well, I don't have a deviated septum anymore.
00:03:24
Steve
That's right. Consider it undeviated.
00:03:25
Sammi
my septum is normal but they so i and it's all just an inside job so like the outside of my nose outside of being a little more puffy than normal and having like i definitely feel the pressure right here for my glasses so like i've been going glasses less a lot and just mr magooing around the house but um yeah outside of that it's all on the inside um and so they basically just like you know get that Straight.
00:03:54
Sammi
And then what they do is they take these two like splints and they put them up your nose and then they like secure them. And then yesterday i went and got those taken out. and And they said after that, like recovery goes a lot faster because like –
00:04:07
Steve
you don't have shit up your nose.
00:04:08
Sammi
You have like this big thing is in your nose. I didn't realize how big they were. Like I have was told um by somebody who got it done um not to Google too much until after.
00:04:24
Sammi
And so I didn't, you know, I knew the basics, but I was like, I don't want to know all the grisly details, you know, until after it's all done. And so I didn't like look at anything. And I went there and they like did the snippies and then they pulled them out. And I, no shit, they were this big.
00:04:42
Sammi
They were like these huge silicone things in my nose. And I was like, in one, one in each nostril, I was like, how do they even fit in there?
00:04:49
Steve
Yeah, where they going? Are they just tickling your frontal lobe?
00:04:51
Sammi
Like, were they were my brain? Like, like Yeah, I was like, they were huge.
00:04:54
Steve
you know
00:04:56
Sammi
I like, I, you know, she had me like hold a basin, you know, as she took them out. And then I was like, okay, I want to look. And I looked at him and I was like, oh my God, things are huge.
00:05:07
Sammi
But it wasn't as gross as people made it seem. It's just like, if you have a really bad bloody nose, it's basically that, you know, and I was on drugs for most of it.
00:05:13
Steve
That's okay.
00:05:16
Sammi
So do I remember it? Not really. um I ate a lot of pudding and I couldn't focus on anything except for TikTok until like a couple days.
00:05:26
Steve
What else is new?
00:05:28
Sammi
Well, that's for sure. But it was especially bad. Like I wasn't reading books. I wasn't watching movies. I wasn't playing video games. Like I couldn't focus on anything but like very short form content, which is unlike me. Like I'll...
00:05:40
Sammi
I'll pop on a four-hour YouTube video about Breath of the Wild. Actually, I did sleep to those still because they're very comforting.
00:05:44
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:05:47
Sammi
And I, for some reason, was like, I need to re-listen to Leah Remini's memoir and also the Going Clear book. So I'm... I don't know.
00:05:58
Sammi
When I'm on hydrocodone, I like to listen re-listen to stuff about Scientology.
00:06:01
Steve
Whatever it takes.
00:06:03
Sammi
I'm not sure. um And then I bought two video games, and they're both kind of the rage in the cozy space right now.
00:06:13
Steve
Oh.
00:06:14
Sammi
um One is called Discounty. Have you heard of Discounty?
00:06:18
Steve
No.
00:06:19
Sammi
Okay, I'll tell you about that in a minute. And the other one is called, like, wait, is Tiny Bookshop? I think that's what it is.
00:06:26
Steve
I don't know that one either.
00:06:27
Sammi
Tiny Bookshop. It's called Tiny Bookshop, AKA Sammy's New Business. So Discounty, you're running like this discount supermarket in a town.
00:06:41
Sammi
It's kind of like Stardew Valley for those who are familiar with that.
00:06:43
Steve
I was going to say, ah both of these sound like Stardew, but it's Stordew instead.
00:06:48
Sammi
So Discounty is much more like Stardew than Tiny Bookshop. um But in Discounty, you like move in Your aunt or something like that ah took over this building. She's like, we're running this chain. So it's kind of like you're working for Jojo Mart.
00:07:04
Sammi
And so you're running this like discount store and but it's like you have to make certain decisions. And if you don't like the story doesn't advance.
00:07:16
Sammi
So you just have to do them. But every decision you make like pisses people off because they're like you're ruining the nature of the town and you're buying out the stuff.
00:07:20
Steve
Oh my
00:07:24
Sammi
And you're like, I just am following the instructions of the game and everybody's mad at me. So then you have to like try to like calm everybody down and like make them okay with what you're doing. And also, you know, so there's like secrets and things like that.
00:07:37
Sammi
But it's a really, it's an indie game, a small team. They did 60 patches in two days because the game blew up and people were like, this isn't working. This isn't working. Why is this going to be...
00:07:47
Steve
oh my god
00:07:49
Sammi
And they're like, we're working as fast as we can. um So I got as far as I could on the console until like it stopped working and they're like porting into the switch light. So I'm like, what else can I play?
00:08:00
Sammi
And then I started playing Tiny Bookshop and Tiny Bookshop is exactly what it sounds like. You run a tiny bookshop in a sleepy little like...
00:08:11
Sammi
like ocean town or whatever, like a beach beachy town.
00:08:13
Steve
Okay.
00:08:15
Sammi
And you just have like, and this is like, I mean, i won't talk about it too much on the podcast because and until it happens, I shouldn't talk about it. But this very up my alley. We'll just, I think people who know me would not be surprised.
00:08:28
Sammi
um
00:08:28
Steve
Yeah, it tracks pretty well.
00:08:28
Sammi
But you basically have like a tiny house like that you, you know, tool around with your pickup truck and you park it in different parking lots and then you sell books and depending on like where you are different genres will sell well you know so like there's like this one place that's kind of like a camping spot for like young scouts and they want like
00:08:38
Steve
Oh.
00:08:44
Steve
Okay.
00:08:51
Sammi
scary stories. So you got to make sure you have enough scary stories for them to read to each other and like fantasy and stuff like that.
00:08:59
Steve
Okay.
00:08:59
Sammi
And then, you know, you go to like the college campus and they're like, well, i want to read some fun stuff, but like I also need books for school. So like, you you know, you've got the classics and you've got like nonfiction books and whatever.
00:09:12
Sammi
So it's very fun, but you start to, I mean, I'm not as far through that. Like I think I'm through one and a half of the season. So I've played like 40 something days worth of gameplay and each day is only like four minutes long or something like that. They're really short days.
00:09:28
Sammi
And um but you start to like form relationships with people that you meet and you you have little side quests. And I just adopted a stray dog and named him Behemoth. And it's so cool. So while I was making negative money in the real world for six days because I wasn't working and I decided to buy this jumpsuit that says special all over it, um video games.
00:09:52
Sammi
I have like two thriving businesses in my video game land. So very proud about that.
00:09:57
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:09:59
Sammi
Feeling pretty good about that.
Academic Achievements and Video Game Escapism
00:10:03
Steve
It's great.
00:10:03
Sammi
But recovery is going great.
00:10:04
Steve
Generating all that revenue.
00:10:06
Sammi
Recovery is going great. I also got like promoted in my academic life to more work while I was recovering. And I was like, yes, I will accept.
00:10:15
Steve
Wait, oh wait, is this, and that's the outside of the video game, that's real academic life, right?
00:10:19
Sammi
That was real life.
00:10:19
Steve
you're not You're not playing a game called like Tiny Grad Student or something, are you?
00:10:23
Sammi
No, I'm... Well, I'm not... I am a tiny grad student, I guess.
00:10:29
Steve
But life is no game.
00:10:31
Sammi
I am a five-foot-tall grad student, But, yeah, so... but yeah so That was kind of funny. I was like, well, the girl math says that I can buy this and some video games because i just got a promotion, right?
00:10:41
Steve
Yeah,
00:10:45
Steve
I think you earned it.
00:10:46
Sammi
Mm-hmm. Tiny grad student. So anyway, um I did keep up with The Bachelor, and I actually watched the last two episodes live, which is surprising because I tend not to do that, um but I've been reorganizing this office, so now I have like a nice...
00:10:56
Steve
Wow.
00:11:03
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:11:03
Sammi
like It's kind of like one of those old um library video game chairs that like rocks like this. I'm talking about like the J-shaped ones.
00:11:13
Steve
yeah yeah yeah
00:11:13
Sammi
It's kind of like that, but it's got a base. um And it's got like this little pillow that you can plug in and it kind of makes your back feel nice, you know?
00:11:21
Steve
a
00:11:22
Sammi
So I'm like, this is very cozy. um So that's how I watched the last two episodes. And um let's see. yeah. oh Yeah, now they're back to like the normal opening.
00:11:36
Steve
I don't know what's going on anymore.
00:11:37
Sammi
And some saucy stuff in episode eight, week eight. I have a note that it was saucy.
00:11:41
Steve
It was saucy.
00:11:42
Sammi
Yeah, I don't know.
00:11:42
Steve
I'm just like, i am I am dumbfounded by how stupid everyone is on this show.
00:11:43
Sammi
Right.
00:11:47
Steve
Like, ah this this whole facade that they're like, it's for love. Everything has to be for love. I'm sorry.
00:11:59
Steve
It's for $500,000. You're here.
00:12:01
Sammi
Right.
00:12:02
Steve
If you leave, you don't leave with $500,000, but you leave with your partner that you have romantically connected with, and then you can go do whatever you want.
00:12:11
Sammi
And it could be love. Yeah, it's just like...
00:12:13
Steve
Yeah, love doesn't happen here. like that's it It's not like you know this this dumb, all-inclusive resort that they're at, what whatever, the Porta Vallarta Hilton. It's not like that's the only place where love can blossom.
00:12:26
Steve
like Just go be a real person.
00:12:27
Sammi
They're in Costa Rica, okay?
00:12:30
Steve
No, that's close enough.
00:12:31
Sammi
Pura vida. Anyway.
00:12:32
Steve
Yeah. ah
00:12:33
Sammi
um But yeah, it's like, it's so weird. And also, i mean, i do think that there are some people who are very actually interested in each other. i don't know if it's like a summer fling or like a real thing or whatever that you can never tell until they get out of off the beach, out of the resorts or whatever.
00:12:52
Steve
yeah
00:12:53
Sammi
But I think it's funny that Kathy is just like, everyone is fake. and And I'm gonna tell on him.
00:12:58
Steve
I know. I love... Kathy's the only one who gets it. She's like, all these kids...
00:13:00
Sammi
She's like, this is all bullshit.
00:13:02
Steve
Yes! She's like, all these kids are dumb and full of shit, and you should be playing for $500,000 right now because you're an idiot. And she's right. She's the only person that's right. And maybe that's because I'm... At this point, I feel like I'm closer to Kathy's age than I am to to their age or something. Like, um I'm leaning towards the olds.
00:13:20
Steve
I'm golden now. But...
00:13:22
Sammi
Wow.
00:13:24
Steve
She's right. Like, what is this weird, like puritanical nonsense, like the purity of bachelor in paradise, ladies and gentlemen, it was never pure to begin with. It's paradise. It's always been messy.
00:13:38
Steve
Okay. And now it's messy with a lot of money.
00:13:39
Sammi
i think yeah I think that's the problem. I don't think they picked a lane in the show um early enough or clearly enough.
00:13:48
Steve
No.
00:13:51
Sammi
And I understand that introducing this new challenge, they thought, oh, that'll be interesting because we bring it in in the middle and that like feels you know like exciting or whatever.
00:13:57
Steve
Yeah, yeah.
00:14:04
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:14:04
Sammi
And they teased it in an earlier episode and stuff. But If they were trying to make it about love, then there needed to be more people on the beach.
00:14:17
Steve
Mm-hmm.
The Bachelor in Paradise Drama
00:14:18
Steve
Yep, sorry.
00:14:18
Sammi
There needed to be more people to choose from from. There needed to be more people on the beach. They needed to send fewer couples home. They needed to have more time with each other. They needed to force them out of their hotel rooms.
00:14:28
Steve
Yeah, this sorry sorry to be Steve, the broken record.
00:14:28
Sammi
Because...
00:14:30
Steve
But I was saying the same thing on our last episode. Like if you have 12 people on the beach, don't be mad at Jonathan because he doesn't fall in love with the one single girl.
00:14:33
Sammi
Yeah.
00:14:41
Steve
I'm sorry. Like it doesn't work that way.
00:14:43
Sammi
Yeah, and they're like, they're like, he's cycling through them.
00:14:43
Steve
quit Quit with your arranged bachelor in paradise marriages.
00:14:48
Sammi
I'm like, because they're the new ones who are coming to the beach and a bunch of people were coupled up.
00:14:52
Steve
Yeah, what do you do?
00:14:53
Sammi
And so he has like one woman to get to know or whatever at a time. Yeah, that's what i'm saying.
00:14:58
Steve
Yeah.
00:14:59
Sammi
It's weird. and And it wasn't enough to shake a lot of couples up. Like a lot of the couples on this show were established very early.
00:15:07
Steve
Yeah.
00:15:07
Sammi
There's not a lot of people who were hanging out with someone else and now they're hanging out with someone new.
00:15:14
Steve
Nope.
00:15:15
Sammi
Really?
00:15:15
Steve
Nope.
00:15:15
Sammi
i mean... Outside of like, you know, the whole, you know, Bailey and Jeremy thing.
00:15:17
Steve
Yeah.
00:15:23
Sammi
And I mean, Alex, she couldn't. hit her stride for a while.
00:15:28
Steve
Yeah, she had to bounce around a little bit.
00:15:30
Sammi
but But that wasn't, yeah, it's like, by and large, things haven't shaken up that much. Things have kind of been the way they've been for a long time. So yeah, I don't know. Anyway, it's just so weird.
00:15:43
Sammi
um But let's talk a little bit about, okay, episode eight and episode nine. I'm trying to remember, a week ago literally feels like another century.
00:15:52
Steve
I know, right?
00:15:52
Sammi
i I had to get up and I was like, I have to look at all my emails and start to tell people I'm alive.
00:15:58
Steve
you
00:15:59
Sammi
But not everybody, only some people, because I'm smart. um So, yeah, this is the other thing. There is an inconsistent strategy with the couples, ah you know, in paradise.
00:16:15
Sammi
So they're not like... They're like, we should pick the weak ones. And then they're like, wait, wait, wait, actually, we should pick the strong ones. We should pick the goldens. Oh, we should pick the young people.
00:16:25
Sammi
Like, they every week every week their strategy changes, which means it's not a strategy.
00:16:26
Steve
there They're morons.
00:16:33
Steve
No, and there's no coherent strategy.
00:16:33
Sammi
It's a reaction.
00:16:35
Steve
There's there's no like alliances or anything like that. Sean came in swinging because he was just like, I need to do politicking, but everyone else is like, I'm not into it.
00:16:46
Steve
And he just he just went completely balls out like he was on Survivor. And then immediately is they're just like, uh-uh.
00:16:52
Sammi
That was the most boring episode ever, though. Okay.
00:16:54
Steve
Yeah.
00:16:55
Sammi
Also, I'm so glad he reminded me that his dad was a politician because I was like, why do I hate Sean again? and and I forgot.
00:17:02
Steve
Because his dad's like a New York Republican congressman or something.
00:17:05
Sammi
Yeah. Who was also like accused of like like sexual misconduct and stuff.
00:17:06
Steve
and
00:17:10
Steve
Oh, I didn't know that.
00:17:11
Sammi
Yes. Yeah. Google it. Look it up.
00:17:13
Steve
Google it.
00:17:13
Sammi
Look it up. Okay.
00:17:14
Steve
Yeah, google.com. Steve, ever heard of it?
00:17:16
Sammi
Allegedly.
00:17:17
Steve
Allegedly.
00:17:18
Sammi
I'm not getting sued. um But I was like, oh, yeah, it's like, oh, my God, you brought him up again. i remember that on the show and I like completely forgot.
00:17:27
Steve
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:17:28
Sammi
But I mean, I just think he's gross because, yeah, I mean, obviously he's like a red pillar. Right. ah
00:17:33
Steve
and
00:17:34
Sammi
Allegedly. um ah In my opinion. He says things that alt-right people say, and I don't like that. Like, I put beef tallow on my face.
00:17:41
Steve
Yeah.
00:17:43
Sammi
And then he's like, I'm gonna, you know, politic and whatever.
00:17:46
Steve
Old beef face.
00:17:46
Sammi
And my my dad is a, you know, totally, like, up-and-up politician. and I'm going to grab butts like he did, all allegedly.
00:17:53
Steve
but But that's the thing. is's like Nobody...
00:17:57
Sammi
Yeah.
00:17:57
Steve
Like you can't, you can't say we're not going to play the game because the game goes on regardless. You have to play. And then you're just making dumb decisions that are based on whims instead of what is strategically smart to do.
00:18:12
Steve
And the idea that people were like, no, it's about love. So the loviest lovers should stay. I'm not.
00:18:17
Sammi
Right.
00:18:18
Steve
I want people who hate each other, who are wildly incompatible to be in these challenges with me because every single challenge has focused on communication, how well you know each other.
00:18:29
Sammi
Right.
00:18:30
Steve
they've They've all been, even when they're like physical in nature, when you're running around and someone has to, you know, talk into a walkie talkie and tell you where to go.
00:18:36
Sammi
And unlock you. Yeah. yeah
00:18:38
Steve
Yeah.
00:18:39
Sammi
It's still communication based.
00:18:39
Steve
Yes, you're doing something physical, but it's like you have to communicate. So I want people who hate each other or can't move. That's that's it. Mm
00:18:49
Sammi
Yeah, i think I think taking out the strong couples is the best strategy for sure.
00:18:55
Steve
hmm.
00:18:55
Sammi
And that people haven't been consistent with that at all is just so goofy. And then they're like, we're going to form an alliance with like three or four couples. And I'm like, that's too many.
00:19:06
Steve
How many couples are there? Yeah.
00:19:08
Sammi
That's too many. You need to be like tight with like one, like any three couples is the max you have to be tight with. You cannot have more than that. It will fall apart. They will not all go the direction that you think they're going to go.
00:19:23
Steve
Yeah, it's not a good idea.
00:19:23
Sammi
Yeah. um OK, I just wanted to read from OK Magazine. I'll just put this in the article. So, yeah, Sean McLaughlin's dad is Stephen McLaughlin. He was a former Republican New York State representative.
00:19:37
Sammi
an assemblyman from 2011 to 2017. And he had a sexual harassment incident. and And now he is... He's a county executive now.
00:19:50
Sammi
And before that, he worked as a banker and a pilot.
00:19:53
Steve
Mmm.
00:19:55
Sammi
Okay? And he went to school at Florida Institute of Technology. um Anyway, I was looking for more about the scandal. Anyway, it's fine. um But yeah, like it's like...
00:20:07
Sammi
Nobody's consistent, not even Sean, because he was like saying things that were confusing. He also didn't understand other people's relationships. And he just tried to like insert the strategy where there was none.
00:20:22
Sammi
It's like the smarter thing. And well, and the end of the episode was mind numbingly bad, but it's like.
00:20:29
Steve
Yep.
00:20:32
Sammi
The smarter thing to do if you're like, I'm going to have a strategy is just to focus as much as you can on your partner and perform as well as you can in the challenges.
00:20:43
Sammi
Because if nobody's going to form alliances, if nobody's going to play ball, if nobody's going to do that, keep your head down. And right now you can still stay the middle of the pack, do as well as you can, and don't make waves.
00:20:56
Sammi
That's your strategy.
00:20:58
Steve
That's the way to do it.
00:20:58
Sammi
Then you will survive. Otherwise, you're done for.
00:21:00
Steve
um with yeah
00:21:01
Sammi
it and And it's like anyone who doesn't see that is just like really, really bad at things.
00:21:10
Steve
Yeah, well, welcome to Bachelor in Paradise.
00:21:10
Sammi
They're just, they're not good. Yeah. Yeah. So the whole thing is just like it literally so embarrassing. um
00:21:19
Steve
I want to see one of these ding-dongs on traitors and watch how quickly they get stabbed in the back.
00:21:19
Sammi
But
00:21:23
Steve
Yeah.
00:21:24
Sammi
But I'm so glad that they're gone because like, yeah, they would not be good at traitors at all.
00:21:30
Steve
No.
00:21:30
Sammi
um OK, so they do this treasure hunk thing, this, you know, scavenger hunt with walkie talkies thing. Those walkie talkies suck dicks.
00:21:39
Steve
ah
00:21:39
Sammi
Those are not good walkie talkies.
00:21:41
Steve
Kathy and Keith just arguing the entire time. I was so into that.
00:21:43
Sammi
And Kathy's like getting drunk in there.
00:21:46
Steve
Yeah. Kathy's like, hold down the button.
00:21:47
Sammi
Wells hands her like a flask.
00:21:48
Steve
You keep cutting out.
00:21:50
Sammi
she's like, thanks. Thanks, Wells. um Yeah, it's like the best you can do is, yeah, talk slowly. Talk long after you've held it down.
00:21:58
Steve
Hmm.
00:22:00
Sammi
Repeat yourself. But did they even get to practice before they went in the box? I feel like they didn't.
00:22:05
Steve
No, no.
00:22:06
Sammi
So that was, I mean, it added to the stakes, I suppose. But I feel like they all did pretty well for only having a half an hour to unlock like five keys.
00:22:17
Sammi
The fact that any of them got that done is kind of surprising with how bad those walkie-talkies were.
00:22:21
Steve
It is surprising. Yeah.
00:22:24
Sammi
anyway. but anyway um oh My God. Okay. i have I'm going to read this Wikipedia article about Sean's dad ah later because I just saw something that shocked me.
00:22:41
Sammi
um Okay. But anyway, I think what I'm saying is Sean, I think, is a misogynist, in my opinion.
00:22:48
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:22:48
Sammi
um As they're like deciding to divvy up the duties, like Alicia's like, I'm fast as fuck. Okay? You should let me be the one on the outside. And he was like, you're a girl. So I don't know if you can be. And she was like, I was literally on track. And he was like...
00:23:02
Sammi
You know, like I was just like, I'm so sick of this guy. I can't wait for him to be off my TV. But I knew he'd be off my TV that week. um She was like, I'm for I was first in track. um But yeah, there's two couples going home.
00:23:13
Sammi
ah Yeah. Oh, basically. Brian and Preece actually did pretty well on the challenge, um which doesn't surprise me.
00:23:20
Steve
Yeah.
00:23:22
Sammi
They're both really competitive. I think the reason that they've done so well on the show was because even though their are personal relationship was not very good, um they do make a good team and they are strategic in the exact right way that works for the show.
00:23:31
Steve
Yeah.
00:23:40
Sammi
Although...
00:23:40
Steve
Yeah, because Brian's a repugnant worm, so he's good at, you know.
00:23:42
Sammi
Right. Brian did put his foot in his mouth and that was not strategic. um But when they're trying to win a game, they're very good at winning games.
00:23:46
Steve
No.
00:23:49
Steve
Yeah.
00:23:49
Sammi
um And then, yeah, I thought Kathy would maybe be good, but I just love that Kathy consistently. Yeah, she's so judgmental about everybody else. And then she has like no self-awareness. And it's funny to watch um because she's like, I'm going to be great because I am a great communicator.
00:24:04
Sammi
And Keith's like, I don't know what it is you're saying.
00:24:08
Steve
a
00:24:08
Sammi
This is the best part ever. um OK, highlights from this, too. Alex did not know what a spigot was. A lot of people did not know what a spigot was. I don't think that's it.
00:24:16
Steve
That was really weird. That was like ah it was like a half dozen grown men and women like, spigot, what is that?
00:24:17
Sammi
that generational thing? Like, am I am I old?
00:24:23
Sammi
What's a spigot? What's a spigot? I'm like, you guys, it's a spigot. Like, that's not like a thing that doesn't exist anymore.
00:24:32
Steve
No, that's...
00:24:33
Sammi
It's not like we're asking you to use a rotary phone and it's Ellen in 2010. Okay. Like this, it's like a normal thing.
00:24:39
Steve
Yeah.
00:24:41
Sammi
And then Nye, I was like, did you not take English class in high school? Never seen the word Nye before?
00:24:48
Steve
never Never seen it.
00:24:50
Sammi
They're like, what does nigh mean? And I was like, oh, God, this is rough. um But yeah, so...
00:24:57
Steve
i would absolutely commit felonies on this island.
00:24:57
Sammi
but
00:25:00
Steve
would... ah
00:25:01
Sammi
It's just like, it's like maddening. Yeah, i would I would have to be paired with the smartest person there or I would get really upset all the time. um Okay, so strongest couples were, let's see, Jess.
00:25:14
Sammi
Wait, why do I have? Oh, yeah. Jess and Spencer and Bailey and Jeremy did really well.
00:25:19
Steve
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:25:20
Sammi
um They were the ones who definitely did the best on the challenge.
00:25:20
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:25:24
Sammi
um Except like... Yeah, there was like some some communication issues with the walkie talkie with Bailey. And she also like lost the key.
00:25:36
Sammi
Scary high stakes, scary stuff.
00:25:37
Steve
who
00:25:38
Sammi
There's also cute dogs on the beach and added distraction. um But I do like that with Spencer, he rolled with spigot and just kept it pushing instead of being because I would get upset about that.
00:25:49
Sammi
He was just like, OK, honey, whatever you say, whatever you call it.
00:25:51
Steve
yeah
00:25:52
Sammi
I know what do you mean.
00:25:53
Steve
sure it's a it's a spy god baby it's fine
00:25:55
Sammi
Yeah. He's like, whatever. It's okay. um Which good for them. um Let's see. Oh, and then yes, Spencer. Yeah. Spencer and Jess got the fastest time. That wasn't surprising. And anyone who finished, no matter what the time was obviously very safe.
00:26:12
Sammi
um But yeah. So and then at the end of the challenge, it was Jeremy's birthday. So they had shot o'clock um leah is again sad about not finding her husband but i'm like listen you get that money you can get into a better rooms and get cool husbands okay so just just keep but it's not gonna work out but
00:26:27
Steve
Yeah.
00:26:34
Steve
Yeah. I mean, quit, quit pouting. You're going to have, what if you had $250,000 and then you were just single and could go do what you want maybe find a husband that way.
00:26:43
Sammi
Yeah, you can like travel to cool places, go to go more places that you want to go.
00:26:44
Steve
That seems fine.
00:26:47
Sammi
you can focus on your own stuff for a while so that when you meet somebody, you're in like a better place, like you feel more established.
00:26:53
Steve
Yeah. oh Go meet your husband like gambling at a blackjack table in Monaco. like You could do a lot with that money.
00:27:00
Sammi
Yeah, ah you could do that. That's a thing you could do. Or you could open a tiny bookshop.
00:27:05
Steve
Who knows?
00:27:06
Sammi
In a sleepy sea town.
00:27:06
Steve
Possibilities are endless.
00:27:07
Sammi
Anyway. ah So, okay. All right. And then, oh, sorry. I just like scrolled in my notes way too far. Yeah. So basically around this point, this is when Sean is like talking shit and he's trying to get everyone to side with him.
00:27:23
Sammi
And, um and he's like undermining Brian, which I would get more mad about if I didn't also hate Brian. Like there's no one to root for here.
00:27:31
Steve
No.
00:27:31
Sammi
It's all annoying. um And then there is ah date for Justin Spencer. And of course it's tantra yoga because it always has to be a
00:27:40
Steve
Sexy. you gotta to do You got to do horny yoga.
00:27:42
Sammi
Yeah, it's totally real and legit.
00:27:42
Steve
That's a real special...
00:27:45
Sammi
ah Anyway, then there's so like as this stuff is happening, the a date I don't want to pay attention to, then Sean is also being someone I don't want to pay attention to being exhausting. And they're calling it like the Parliament of Paradise.
00:28:00
Sammi
And this episode almost made me like Dale. That was scary.
00:28:03
Steve
a
00:28:04
Sammi
That was scary because Dale was so over it. And I was like, I am you. I'm like, it's not going to work. It is too late in the game for you to form a strategy. You should have done it week one of the game changing.
00:28:16
Sammi
This is just like too little too late. And it's going to put a target on your back because you're the annoying little mosquito in everyone's ear. And they're just going to get rid of you because they don't want to deal with you, you know?
00:28:28
Steve
Yep, exactly.
00:28:28
Sammi
And then, yeah, Spencer's like, um well, yeah, because they were trying, he was trying to make everybody vote for Spencer. And then, wait, Jeremy said, you can't prep for a hurricane when it's going to be an earthquake.
00:28:42
Sammi
um Wise words to me. And then Spencer's like, well, I'll kick, I'll kick Sean out because fuck that guy. Yeah.
00:28:51
Steve
Pretty much.
00:28:52
Sammi
And Dale and Andrew and Jeremy are like, well, I'm not sure what I'm going to do. and then And then the women are all in like one room and they're all talking about this too. And then like Alicia walks in and it's so awkward so fast.
00:29:04
Steve
They're so bad at hiding their scheming.
00:29:06
Sammi
Yeah.
00:29:07
Steve
Every single time.
00:29:07
Sammi
She's like like, what are you talking about?
00:29:08
Steve
Like when when they were trying to hide this stuff from Bayley a few weeks ago and Bayley was just like, wait, so ah midnight rendezvous?
00:29:09
Sammi
and they're like, nothing. Yes.
00:29:16
Steve
But like, and then... um She's just like, whoa.
00:29:20
Sammi
Parisa Parisa's like what just tell me that I was with Brian and Bailey's like I'm just doing my nails you know i was like
00:29:26
Steve
Yeah. Well, like can you just say it's not Brian? I not.
00:29:30
Sammi
she I can't not not say that.
00:29:31
Steve
care at not
00:29:32
Sammi
Yeah, so weird.
00:29:33
Steve
yeah
00:29:34
Sammi
um It was so awkward. And I get that Alicia's upset about it, but again, this is game for half a million dollars. So, I don't know. It's all fair game, in my opinion.
00:29:46
Sammi
but i get But it's like, yeah, that's the point. You can't make these alliances this late. You're shaking up all this stuff, and everybody's going to get agitated, and nobody's going to vote the way you think they're going to vote.
00:29:52
Steve
Doesn't work.
00:29:57
Sammi
Like, it's... Things might have shaken out naturally in a different way. How do you not agitate everybody? That's my point. And then Sean is like, you know what I'm going to do then? I'm going to turn on Kat because I think she's fake as fuck.
00:30:11
Sammi
And
00:30:12
Steve
ah Which she might be. yeah
00:30:15
Sammi
she might be. And he's like, I'm annoyed with her. You know, I stick my neck out for her. I've been I've done nothing but defend you consistently. This was his Hail Mary pass, you know. And he's just like, so I'm going to make everybody turn on Kat because they don't know what she's like.
00:30:31
Steve
Well, I don't know. she ah up Up until actually in episode nine, we get some classic cat, which I enjoy. ah
00:30:38
Sammi
Yeah, me too.
00:30:39
Steve
But yeah, I was like, man, this this cat has been pretty sedated.
00:30:39
Sammi
I kind of missed it. I'll be honest. Yeah.
00:30:44
Steve
like This is cat after a couple of Xanax.
00:30:45
Sammi
Yeah.
00:30:47
Steve
She's just kind of zonked on it. But we find out later, and this isn't revealed on the show, but it was revealed all over the internet, allegedly.
00:30:57
Sammi
Allegedly.
00:30:59
Steve
fake ass cat allegedly had or has a boyfriend at home and she was doing all kinds of goofy ass stuff to try and like signal to him like she was like drawing things on her arms like i love you baby
00:31:10
Sammi
Yes.
00:31:14
Sammi
I didn't see any of that, but maybe it's because I wasn't looking.
00:31:14
Steve
yeah
00:31:17
Steve
they might yeah they might have cut around it too i don't know but then while also like i'm gonna smooch down the lips and my boyfriend shut up
00:31:19
Sammi
Yeah, I don't know. but yeah, that's...
00:31:25
Sammi
Yeah, I don't know. mean, could definitely be the case. Like, weirder things have happened on the show. So that could definitely be a real thing that happened. um But also, it's like, you're not going to make people like you by accusing someone else of being fake.
00:31:42
Sammi
Like, that's not going to make you more popular.
00:31:43
Steve
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:31:45
Sammi
that That's not going to, like, improve your image. It's... Unless it's a coordinated effort and a group of people are going after the same person and they have evidence and all this stuff and they say concrete things on the show, um it just never works out.
00:32:04
Sammi
It never works out. So that was what Sean had going against him. But he was just like, well, you're all not seeing the real cat. And it's like, I mean, this is like a pot kettle situation because you are so fake.
00:32:15
Sammi
So like takes one to know one. i
00:32:19
Steve
No, he's not fake.
00:32:20
Sammi
I don't.
00:32:20
Steve
They're the strongest couple on the beach.
00:32:23
Sammi
Yeah, they totally love each other. um
00:32:27
Steve
It's so weird.
00:32:28
Sammi
um i will say, it's mild spoilers. I think as long as a couple is off the beach, I think it's fair game to talk about them. But i as far as I've seen with the two of them, it seems like they've kept it very vague as to what their relationship now is.
00:32:45
Steve
yeah i don't
00:32:45
Sammi
It's like, I've met an amazing person and we have a great connection.
00:32:50
Steve
yeah i think they're just like friends that bang sometimes yeah which that's fine i guess but yeah i i personally would not touch sean's allegedly republican penis so you know
00:32:50
Sammi
and it's like, are you friends? and I think that's what it is. But, which is fine, but it's just like, that's also fake. You know what I'm saying?
00:33:00
Sammi
Because that's not how you were acting. Anyway.
00:33:09
Sammi
just got beef tallow on it. Yeah.
00:33:11
Steve
This beef tallow dick. ah
00:33:16
Sammi
Um, anyway, oh my gosh.
00:33:16
Steve
Oh, ew.
00:33:18
Sammi
Oh, sorry. Okay. This was a TikTok thing. Sorry. This is literally all I've watched for five days. So it's worse than normal, but there's like some guy who started a business called tallow.
00:33:29
Sammi
Did I, did you see this? Um, and he was basically like, I'm not making any money. And he was like complaining about it on, I'll just call it Twitter. And, um, but people were like, yeah, but you're like inside this shopping place.
00:33:46
Sammi
ah center or whatever. And there's like, yeah, I think.
00:33:47
Steve
Oh, the place that sells chicken nuggets or whatever, right?
00:33:50
Sammi
And there's like a Popeye's and there's like, there's like these well-established places and it's like proximity can help your business. Right. But it's like, it was inside this building where there were like three other very prominent businesses and you just started.
00:33:57
Steve
Yeah.
00:34:05
Sammi
And the other thing that's weird is everything's cooked in beef tallow, but they do not sell beef.
00:34:10
Steve
No, they just cook their chicken and beef tallow. And yeah, it's surrounded by a Popeye's, a KFC, and a Wingstop, and it's like inside of a grocery store.
00:34:13
Sammi
So people are coming.
00:34:17
Sammi
Yes. And so people are going, they're going, oh, maybe I could get beef here because there are three chicken options. and And then he's like, well, we don't have beef.
00:34:28
Sammi
We just cook with beef.
00:34:28
Steve
Nope.
00:34:29
Sammi
And he literally said on Twitter, like, we've lost business due to woke or whatever. or We're going out of business due to woke.
00:34:36
Steve
Yeah.
00:34:37
Sammi
I was like, are you?
00:34:37
Steve
I only made $37 to woke.
00:34:41
Sammi
It's like, because you're bad at, I mean, it's it's worse.
00:34:43
Steve
yeah
00:34:45
Sammi
Like, this is a trendy thing right now. You should be able to make money on it from people who, yeah, can hear, you know, music clearly projected from one year to another or whatever, because there's nothing in between.
00:35:00
Sammi
um But so, like, it shouldn't be an issue to make some money, at least temporarily, in this weird beef teller bubble we're in.
00:35:08
Steve
The
00:35:10
Sammi
But so it's like that that should only work in your favor right now. And there are businesses that have been cooking with beef tallow for a long time and they just don't advertise it because it's just the way they cook, whatever.
00:35:20
Steve
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:35:25
Sammi
um So like that that didn't even help you. It's just like that you should have, if anything, your business should have done better now.
00:35:35
Sammi
So it just shows me that you don't know anything about business. It's just like so embarrassing. So ah that was like a nice little win. And um yeah, I just needed to go on another talent rant, I guess.
00:35:48
Sammi
um But i thought that was so funny. Okay. So, yeah. So Sean's going like scorched earth basically is like my little parliament didn't work. So now I'm going to backstab everybody.
00:36:00
Sammi
um If this is the way your dad operated, it's not, it's not good. You know, I don't know.
00:36:05
Steve
Not great.
00:36:05
Sammi
Just saying. um And then, okay. So then they get, they get to the rose ceremony. um Oh, and Kathy gets one of the roses and Parisa is like, oh, no, because I thought i thought maybe I could scoot by one more week, which she should have been able to, you know, um but no.
00:36:28
Steve
You would think.
00:36:31
Sammi
And then before everything could happen, Alicia is like, oh, ah you can't fire us because we quit.
00:36:39
Steve
It was great.
00:36:39
Sammi
So and we're leaving because we want to with our heads held high and we care about each other so much. And it was always about more than money to us. and you know, whatever.
00:36:54
Sammi
and And then Alex was like, well, I didn't vote for them. So I don't know. Like, why are they preemptively doing this?
00:36:59
Steve
a
00:37:01
Sammi
They could still make a speech if they got ejected. and they But if they didn't, if they would have had a chance at a half a million dollars. So it seems kind of weird that they're like, you can't fire us because we quit.
00:37:14
Steve
Yeah, it's real dumb.
00:37:15
Sammi
Yeah.
00:37:15
Steve
i think I think they thought that was their, like, I don't know, like their' their big stand-up moment where they're just like, yeah, now everyone will love us because we're doing the right thing.
00:37:21
Sammi
Yeah.
00:37:24
Steve
it's like, no you're just being weird and dumb.
00:37:26
Sammi
Yeah, we're leaving for love. It's like you could have had both.
00:37:29
Steve
Yeah, why not stay for love?
00:37:30
Sammi
You could have had both. So yeah.
00:37:30
Steve
And money.
00:37:32
Sammi
and then And then as they're leaving, because that didn't go over well, because it wouldn't have.
00:37:36
Steve
No, course not.
00:37:37
Sammi
Then Sean was like, okay, I'm changing strategies again. Again, no strategy. You're just reacting. This is not a strategy. If i went to my clients and said, okay, here's our plan for a marketing campaign.
00:37:51
Sammi
And then two days later, I go, well, that's not working at all. So we're going to do something else. Okay. Well, that's not working at all. So do something
00:37:57
Steve
It's good way to get fired.
00:37:57
Sammi
Oh, well, we just spent $20,000. Like that would be bad. Okay. I go, this is what we're going to do. We're going try it for three months. It, I think it will help.
00:38:08
Sammi
It might not. And if it doesn't, we'll use these things to learn and change. And that's how a strategy is built.
00:38:12
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:38:14
Sammi
Not just like, oh, okay, well now i'm going to tell Dale, oh, you know what? I love you, but Kat, don't come crying to me when this one ends.
00:38:22
Sammi
Cause that's going to make people like me.
00:38:22
Steve
Yep.
00:38:26
Sammi
He's such trash.
00:38:26
Steve
and
00:38:28
Sammi
And then again, Dale, don't make me like you.
00:38:28
Steve
oh
00:38:30
Sammi
Why do you have to fart to break the tension? That was funny.
00:38:33
Steve
That was good.
00:38:33
Sammi
God damn it. um Okay.
00:38:35
Steve
that's I mean, that's probably his only move. I think that's the farting moron Neanderthal.
00:38:36
Sammi
I am starting to like Dale a little bit more and I'm like, no, don't do it. Yeah, there's something very, I don't know. He is quite face value. He's becoming more honest.
00:38:47
Sammi
I think that's what I like about him more.
00:38:47
Steve
but this is This is the endless Bachelor question, which is, are the men on The Bachelorette slash Bachelor in Paradise slash Bachelor evil or stupid?
00:38:59
Steve
Evil, stupid. You never know.
00:39:03
Sammi
You never know.
00:39:03
Steve
And you know, someone like Dale, you're like, hmm, kind of a bad guy. oh but wait, now he's walking back over. No, just a stupid, stupid man.
00:39:09
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, oh, yeah, he is from like what, Nebraska or something?
00:39:14
Steve
Yeah.
00:39:15
Sammi
Or North Dakota?
00:39:17
Steve
He is, yeah, I don't know, wherever he's from.
00:39:19
Sammi
North Dakota, because Alex thought he was from like North Carolina. And he was like, no, North Dakota.
00:39:22
Steve
Yeah. North Dakota.
00:39:24
Sammi
North Dakota.
00:39:25
Steve
All I have to say is the lights are on, but nobody's home. So...
00:39:28
Sammi
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's like, yeah. And then I remember, yeah, it's like he's from either Nebraska or North Dakota and my brain can't tell me which. Um, So then, yeah, Leia gets the rose. Oh, yeah. ja Jesse was basically like, well, they were going to go home anyway. So it's fine that they went home.
00:39:45
Sammi
And Leia gets the rose. So that meant Parisa is going home. And um so, yeah. So it was Parisa and Brian and Sean and Alicia.
00:39:56
Sammi
And um can I should I share a spoiler about Parisa or should I not share a spoiler about Parisa?
00:40:02
Steve
Yeah, why not?
00:40:04
Sammi
Yeah.
00:40:04
Steve
Share it.
00:40:04
Sammi
Okay. If you don't, again, i won't spoil anything that's like still undetermined on the show, but like the things that happened afterwards, I heard through the grapevine, but I don't know for sure. I didn't, I didn't look into it much. I just heard that Parisa has a new boyfriend now.
00:40:21
Steve
Oh my. Good.
00:40:22
Sammi
Yeah.
00:40:23
Steve
I would also get a new boyfriend.
00:40:23
Sammi
I know.
00:40:24
Steve
If my boyfriend was Brian, I would choose any other man on earth.
00:40:24
Sammi
i know
00:40:30
Sammi
I was like, does she really like that? So great, because I just really think she is a weirdo and she's like my kind of weirdo. And it just makes me really sad that like she hasn't been able to like let that, you know, fly as much as it should have on the show.
00:40:40
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:40:53
Steve
her
00:40:53
Sammi
She just didn't get to be as much of a geek as she could have been. Um, so yeah, um, that's what I heard. I don't know anything about it besides that.
00:41:06
Sammi
Um, wait, what is this?
00:41:10
Sammi
Oh, she's an amateur chef. I didn't know that her food looks really fucking good.
00:41:15
Steve
Wow. So she can cook and she's funny and she's quirky and she chose Brian.
00:41:16
Sammi
Oh my God. And she likes, and she likes scrapbooking and rocks and she loves Costco.
00:41:20
Steve
Brian.
00:41:26
Sammi
Um, Oh my God, her food looks so delicious. Everybody go to Chef PMS, which is great
00:41:37
Steve
Sure.
00:41:38
Sammi
name. I'll link it in the show notes.
00:41:40
Steve
yeah link link to Chef PMS.
00:41:40
Sammi
um Chef PMS Parisa. So funny. I'm sure i think that's her. um
00:41:49
Steve
Must be your initials, right?
00:41:50
Sammi
I think so. ah Let me see. Parisa. She. Yeah. Because, yeah, her last name is like Shifta. um
00:42:02
Sammi
Yeah. And her middle name is Marie. That's amazing that her her initials are PMS.
00:42:05
Steve
we go
00:42:08
Steve
She leans into it.
00:42:10
Sammi
I love her. Yeah. yeah So anyway, that's what I heard. ah Whoever it is, I hope that he's awesome. And I'm so glad that um yeah Brian's out of the picture because he really like dulled her light.
00:42:26
Sammi
She's just like such a cool person. Anyway, in my opinion. um Okay. Until proven otherwise. So week nine. Okay. Yeah. Then we're back to like fully traditional intros. Walter's not having it. He's mad downstairs.
00:42:42
Sammi
um We, okay.
Camping Challenges and Personal Stories
00:42:45
Sammi
And then Kat is like, so we start the episode with Kat being like, cause they're all kind of like, where are we going? What's going to happen at the end of this?
00:42:53
Sammi
And Kat's like, well, I'm not getting engaged again. And I was like, that's smart. Yeah. ah yeah If it's because you have a boyfriend back home, don't know, maybe not so. sorry
00:43:02
Steve
oh
00:43:02
Sammi
But I mean, i wouldn't expect her to get engaged again. um
00:43:07
Steve
No.
00:43:07
Sammi
Alex is like, I don't know, maybe Andrew's my guy. I would be shocked if they got engaged, though.
00:43:12
Steve
No.
00:43:13
Sammi
Um, Bailey is like, Jeremy is a pleasant surprise.
00:43:13
Steve
That's a hard no for me, too. It's not going to happen.
00:43:16
Sammi
I fear they're going to be engaged. Um, the amount of defense that she has had with him makes me feel like that is what will be happening.
00:43:22
Steve
Thank you.
00:43:27
Sammi
Um, Andrew's feeling good about the relationship too. And then, okay. So then what they start with, is this is like celebratory dinner about how far they came. And I just kept waiting for like a weird catch at the dinner, but they're like, no, it's just a nice dinner.
00:43:40
Sammi
But then there were bunch of flies there and cats like crashing out. Cause there's flies everywhere, but everyone else is like, the steak is delicious. Oh, what a lovely sunset.
00:43:49
Steve
right
00:43:51
Sammi
This wine is amazing. and
00:43:52
Steve
Pat hates bugs.
00:43:52
Sammi
And she's like,
00:43:53
Steve
She hates them.
00:43:54
Sammi
She is like, it's like cat's a ghost and she's trying to get everyone to see that she exists and they are not falling for it.
00:44:01
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:44:03
Sammi
um And that was kind of hard to watch. I, I don't really like flies, but when she said like a horde of flies and then people were like, oh, it's probably just like, you know, like a fly.
00:44:17
Sammi
Then I was like, well, that's a little dramatic, right?
00:44:17
Steve
Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, because she, I remember her freaking out about bugs on the beach before when she was on Paradise, so this is nothing new.
00:44:26
Sammi
Right. But it's like she didn't do it until now.
00:44:27
Steve
And then she says she has like a bug phobia or something.
00:44:30
Sammi
Yeah. Well, so did Bailey, but Bailey didn't act like that.
00:44:34
Steve
Yeah.
00:44:35
Sammi
She was like, this is gross. And I don't really want to go camping. Like, I would rather.
00:44:40
Steve
No, who does? We have evolved as human beings.
00:44:42
Sammi
Well, this is what I was going to ask.
00:44:44
Steve
We can sleep in beds.
00:44:46
Sammi
This is what I was.
00:44:46
Steve
Under roofs.
00:44:47
Sammi
ah yeah OK. I was going to ask you this when we got to the camping part, which is basically right around the corner from that. You don't like camping.
00:44:54
Steve
No.
00:44:55
Sammi
OK.
00:44:55
Steve
I mean, I've done it, but not like, i like, why would I choose to sleep on the ground?
00:44:55
Sammi
OK. Okay.
00:45:00
Steve
Why would anybody do that?
00:45:01
Sammi
Well, you don't have to sleep on the ground.
00:45:03
Steve
Oh, yeah. Okay. So I put a blow up mattress on the ground.
00:45:07
Sammi
Yes.
00:45:08
Steve
Why?
00:45:08
Sammi
More like a cot.
00:45:09
Steve
i will go to a cabin anytime. People like oh, you don't want to be out in nature? Sure. Put me in a cabin.
00:45:15
Sammi
Okay. Okay.
00:45:15
Steve
Because again, what, what, what, what year is this? Is it 900 BC? Why am I in a, why am I just like on the dirt and stuff?
00:45:21
Sammi
900 BC. We in the wilderness
00:45:22
Steve
Come on.
00:45:25
Sammi
that long ago. Yeah. Yeah. we were in the wilderness not that long ago
00:45:28
Steve
Yeah, listen, listen. The the point is, i don't I don't need to be in a tent. There's no reason for me to be in a tent unless, like, i somehow it is necessitated because I've been lost in nature.
00:45:40
Steve
There was a plane crash.
00:45:40
Sammi
hu
00:45:41
Steve
I'm the only survivor. I have found a tent.
00:45:44
Sammi
yeah
00:45:45
Steve
Then I will camp in the tent. Otherwise, why can't I be in a cabin?
00:45:49
Sammi
Wow. We're so different.
00:45:52
Steve
What do you, what okay, ground sleeper, what do you like about tents so much?
00:45:57
Sammi
ah Well, I feel like I get really good sleep when I'm camping. Like I sleep really heavy. Why are you looking at me like a dog?
00:46:07
Steve
like I'm just picturing you like a ah stick and a rock in your spine and some raccoons like.
00:46:08
Sammi
and Go outside and go outside. Yeah.
00:46:14
Sammi
Okay. I don't know what kind of camping trips you've been on.
00:46:17
Steve
So they do. So they do.
00:46:20
Sammi
Yeah. See, you're like Bailey. You're just like, I can't.
00:46:23
Steve
Yeah.
00:46:24
Sammi
um No, I grew up camping and I grew up tent camping. And then we we did upgrade from tents to campers.
00:46:32
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:46:35
Sammi
Not by my choice. Okay. My mom will agree to this when she's listening. um But it was not my choice. i actually always enjoyed tent camping.
00:46:45
Sammi
um But then we were at the Dells um one year, i think. Oh, gosh, I don't remember how long ago we were supposed to like go to the Dells. And then we were going to like drive to like South Dakota, not North Dakota. Yeah.
00:46:57
Sammi
Um, and we were going to stay at this like campground that had like horses and whatever. And we were going to go see Mount Rushmore. I still haven't seen Mount Rushmore, although I don't think I'm missing anything. And, um, there was like this really big storm that night and my parents' tent flooded.
00:47:18
Steve
Oh, see, that's the other thing.
00:47:18
Sammi
And
00:47:19
Steve
Inclement weather.
00:47:19
Sammi
i I had my own tent with a rain guard. It was Coleman. I am forever and like loyal to Coleman. I have many Coleman products.
00:47:30
Sammi
I'll just say that. so and i was in yeah I had an air mattress and a sleeping bag and whatever. and I was snug.
00:47:36
Steve
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:47:38
Sammi
okay I didn't notice anything. I slept very heavy. My dad apparently like opened it up my tent and was like, do you want to come in with us? like Are you scared or something?
00:47:49
Sammi
and I either gave him like no response or said, leave me alone. I'm sleeping. Something like that. I don't remember. And then I woke up the next morning, like fresh as a daisy, like, ah, so great. Oh, I'm so happy.
00:48:02
Sammi
And my parents were like, they look like they had daggers in their eyes. And I was like, what's wrong? And they're like, you didn't hear like the big storm that happened? And I was like, No.
00:48:13
Sammi
um And they're like, yeah, it terrible. And like they had this old tent that was not I don't think it was a Coleman. It was like one of those old triangular ones that requires way more steps than just it's a dome. And I just, you know, run two things through it and you're done.
00:48:29
Sammi
um And so we had to let it dry out. we had to let everything dry out so we couldn't drive to ah South Dakota the next day. So instead, we went to Nozark. And that was pretty great.
00:48:40
Steve
The water park? It's probably better.
00:48:42
Sammi
Honestly, i was way happier to go to Nozark.
00:48:44
Steve
Yeah.
00:48:45
Sammi
But this is like, this is an upgrade. But yeah, so then we upgraded to like a pop-up ah camper. So we went pop-up camping for like my whole like teenage and early adult life. And then they just got like a trailer not super long ago, like four or five years ago, maybe something like that, maybe a little longer ago than that.
00:49:06
Steve
Sammy, what I'm hearing is you're youre your parents slept in a tent and it flooded with water and they and they lost a good night's sleep.
00:49:11
Sammi
yeah
00:49:12
Steve
And because they slept in a tent, they were unable to see a an essential American landmark.
00:49:19
Sammi
i What I'm hearing
00:49:19
Steve
Sounds to me like someone should have stayed in a cabin.
00:49:22
Sammi
What I'm hearing is tent camping allowed me to go to Noah's Ark and that was great. um But yeah, so I always enjoyed it and I've gone tent camping a lot in my adult life and we do own a tent and I am trying to get Tuck to go tent camping with me. We'll see if it works.
00:49:38
Sammi
But we are also entertaining trailers. I won't lie. But they called it glamping. They called this trip glamping. I would disagree with that.
00:49:46
Steve
what setting up a tent because they had to set up a tent that's not glamping glamping is like if you like rent a yurt and it's got like a ah feather mattress in it i know i know it's just weird
00:49:49
Sammi
They called it glamping on the show. That's what they called it.
00:49:54
Sammi
Listen, i don't get mad at me. That's what they called it on the show. They said glamping. And I was like, well, this isn't glamping. This is just camping. Also, you gave them shitty tents. Like the whole idea was like it's a relationship test because everything's a little bit inconvenient. Like the tents kind of suck.
00:50:12
Sammi
There's horse poop that we shipped in.
00:50:13
Steve
Oh yeah, their matches are wet.
00:50:15
Sammi
Yeah, everything's wet. One of the chairs is broken and there's bugs everywhere. And they're like, have fun. um But I do love camping and don't get too bothered by any of those things. And but one of my favorite things to do is just sit in front of a fire and think about nothing because I never do that. I never think about nothing.
00:50:36
Sammi
So it's very freeing and very nice. um But the way that these couples handle the challenges were not just observed by us. They were observed by a relationship expert.
Relationship Insights and Predictions
00:50:48
Sammi
Dr. Laura, somebody. Not the one you're thinking of. A different Dr. Laura.
00:50:51
Steve
A different Dr.
00:50:52
Sammi
Yeah.
00:50:52
Steve
Laura, yeah.
00:50:53
Sammi
Yeah.
00:50:53
Steve
This is good. I really enjoyed this. Because she's like... I don't know, just just the way she judged people. And then especially Jeremy, the king of taking feedback, him and Bailey, because I think Bailey's like, she's like, I don't like bugs.
00:51:00
Sammi
Yeah.
00:51:07
Steve
i don't like being outside. Like, this sucks. My whole thing is like, if I was doing this, I'd be like, don't like this shit. But also, if you really want me to go camping, like, if that's your thing, I'll go do it. And Jeremy's just like, this isn't bad at all.
00:51:18
Steve
i've I've slept on pointy knives in Peru, and I've... I've, you know, jumped off a cliffs in Guatemala and and then so slept like a baby in a lava pit.
00:51:30
Sammi
Yeah,
00:51:30
Steve
And then the doctor's like, maybe you guys are like not aligned as a couple. Maybe you want different things out of life. He's like, no.
00:51:38
Sammi
yeah it was so funny.
00:51:38
Steve
but Shut up, Jeremy.
00:51:41
Sammi
Yeah, that was really funny. Well, I mean, I will say that they rolled with the punches fairly well. So it's like, but you could truly glamp.
00:51:49
Steve
hmm.
00:51:49
Sammi
And then maybe that would be a good happy medium. Just like, you know, we're keeping our eye out for trailers. And we I would love a scamp. Okay? Those are culty, just the right amount of culty for me. If anybody knows me, they know I love a culty brand.
00:52:07
Steve
yeah
00:52:07
Sammi
And ah they just they've got the following. They got the style. They got the stuff I want. They're made in Minnesota. What's not to like? You know I'm talking about?
00:52:17
Sammi
Do you know what scamp is? Are you Googling right now?
00:52:19
Steve
yes scamp is what people call me old people
00:52:21
Sammi
You're like, scamp trailer. When you see it...
00:52:26
Sammi
When you see it, you'll be like, oh, that looks like something Sammy would like.
00:52:28
Steve
No, I know what a scamp is. I totally know what a scamp is.
00:52:30
Sammi
yeah
00:52:31
Steve
it's ah And it is a very Sammy-ass thing.
00:52:33
Sammi
They're really nice campers. Okay.
00:52:35
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:52:35
Sammi
They're well-designed. Anyway. So it's like, that's a happy medium. And, you know, or you could say um maybe we spend one night, you know, glamping and the other two nights at a nice hotel.
00:52:46
Sammi
It's like, there are ways that you could find ways around it. But yeah, she was basically like, the chemistry is there with you too, but I don't know if you want the same things in life.
00:52:56
Sammi
And I've
00:52:57
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:52:58
Sammi
Probably not. I probably don't. um and But then she kind of said the opposite for Alex and Andrew, where she's like, you two get along really well, but I feel like you don't want to bang.
00:53:10
Sammi
And they were like, up the the ah oh, oh, oh.
00:53:14
Steve
Well.
00:53:15
Sammi
They both like short circuited. It was kind of funny. um Yeah, that was that was a good one. um She didn't really talk about Keith and Kathy, right? I don't think she did.
00:53:25
Steve
No, ah she basically was like, yeah because well, because Keith and Kathy set up all the shit fine because they're adults and not like dumb babies.
00:53:25
Sammi
Yeah.
00:53:31
Sammi
Yeah, they know how to use these things.
00:53:33
Steve
Yeah.
00:53:33
Sammi
Yeah.
00:53:33
Steve
And so then she was like, wow, you guys work really well together. But this is a show about finding love. No, it's not, Dr. Laura. It's a show about five hundred thousand dollars right now.
00:53:43
Sammi
yeah
00:53:43
Steve
I'm sorry. That's.
00:53:44
Sammi
And they make a good team. They were dangerous. They were a dangerous pair because they are a good team for the most part when they can hear each other.
00:53:47
Steve
Mm hmm.
00:53:53
Steve
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:53
Sammi
um Yeah. ah Alex and Andrew laughed through the whole thing. Yeah. Keith is annoyed with Kathy, but he mostly was like in dad mode. He's like, why are you standing on the table with a bug zapper? And Kathy's like, I feel like the Statue of Liberty.
00:54:05
Sammi
That was really funny.
00:54:05
Steve
yeah
00:54:07
Sammi
um Bailey is like, I'm afraid of the dark and bugs. But yeah Jeremy's like, I've built tents before, like you said. um Oh, yeah. Out the chairs, like it one chair of strategically broken. um Would you be the person in your relationship to take the broken chair?
00:54:23
Steve
I would take the broken chair. I don't care. doesn't matter to me.
00:54:27
Sammi
Tuck would definitely take the broken chair. He wouldn't even let me take it.
00:54:31
Steve
No, I don't care.
00:54:32
Sammi
He's like, Yeah.
00:54:33
Steve
i don't i don't mind taking a broken chair. That's fine.
00:54:35
Sammi
That was really nice. it was interesting It was interesting to see who took the broken chair. um Yeah, this is really where Kat was like very much crashing out. But again, Dale, don't make me like you. Okay?
00:54:48
Steve
Dale was pretty calm and cool through the whole thing.
00:54:48
Sammi
But I feel like you handled this really well.
00:54:50
Steve
Yeah.
00:54:50
Sammi
You did a good job. And I don't want to like you, but you're making me like you. It's making me mad. um But yeah, I think he did really well. And he was like, you know what? Just breathe and be calm. And even though he inside told us, I felt helpless. I didn't know what to do.
00:55:06
Sammi
He was like, just it's OK. I got it. And she was like frantic because she's like, I feel like I should be helping you, but I don't um don't want to help you.
00:55:13
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:55:16
Sammi
But I feel guilty about it, ah which I've been there before in different scenarios where it's like even like recovering from surgery. I'm like, I want to be able to do these things.
00:55:28
Sammi
And then I try to do them. And my body is like, actually, no. um And I'm like, I want to be able to like bend over when I want and pick up things that fall.
00:55:38
Sammi
And I have to ask you to do them. And I don't like doing that. um So I feel like she's kind of feeling that way where it's like there are things that are clearly physically preventing her from doing this stuff. She's very afraid.
00:55:51
Sammi
And yeah, he was like a very calming presence and did not make her feel guilty about it and made her feel safe. And she said he made her feel safe. And it was actually it was a nice moment. I would agree.
00:56:03
Sammi
i don't think they should have won the challenge.
00:56:06
Steve
No, probably not. No.
00:56:07
Sammi
But that was interesting TV. Keep them around for one more week. Maybe more controversies will arise. This was the wildest part. Was it real that there were like monkeys coming near the campsite?
00:56:21
Sammi
And they said, a Costa Rican zoologist said, we can't stay out here any longer, so you gotta go back. That was weird, right?
00:56:27
Steve
That was weird. I have no idea.
00:56:29
Sammi
Was that real?
00:56:30
Steve
Probably.
00:56:30
Sammi
I don't know.
00:56:30
Steve
I don't know. have no idea.
00:56:34
Sammi
I was just like... I was like...
00:56:35
Steve
i don't know what the monkey situation is there.
00:56:38
Sammi
Well...
00:56:39
Steve
Are they mean?
00:56:41
Sammi
Maybe if you're encroaching on their property. i don't know.
00:56:44
Steve
are the Are they the raccoons of Costa Rica?
00:56:46
Sammi
i don't know. so But they were just like a zoologist said we can't stay out here any longer.
00:56:54
Steve
Yeah, that's weird.
00:56:54
Sammi
Which is just kind of strange.
00:56:56
Steve
Maybe they're like endangered monkeys.
00:56:58
Sammi
I don't know. um But I was just very confused by that. I was like, oh, well, I guess they're they're going back. um So they didn't even have to sleep out there. So I was really like, no, it was nothing.
00:57:08
Steve
No.
00:57:10
Sammi
They were out there for like a couple hours, probably.
00:57:13
Steve
Yeah, I could have handled that.
00:57:13
Sammi
ah I don't think it was any longer than that. Um, let's see what else. Anything else? I think that was it. Um, most of the experiences I feel like in this challenge were middling to good.
00:57:25
Sammi
Um, Dr. Laura Berman. Sorry. That was her name. Um,
00:57:33
Sammi
Oh, the one thing she was worried about is that Dale will shoulder too much. And then Spencer and Jess are getting like punished for getting along well and everything's going great. Because she's like, well, what happens when you enter the real world?
00:57:42
Steve
Yeah, pretty much.
00:57:44
Sammi
And they're like, well, you could have said that about anybody.
00:57:48
Steve
true.
00:57:49
Sammi
So why are you saying that about us?
00:57:50
Steve
I guess their only thing is like they have slightly different timelines over when they want to have babies or something.
00:57:52
Sammi
These are all artificial situations. Yeah.
00:57:58
Sammi
Yeah.
00:57:58
Steve
i don't know. Who cares? Figure it out.
00:58:01
Sammi
That's like, that's easy. Well, not easy to navigate.
00:58:03
Steve
Should we have babies in two years or four years? Shut up.
00:58:07
Sammi
That's not, that's nothing that's like impossible to navigate or like, yeah, where are you going to, where do you want to live?
00:58:10
Steve
No.
00:58:12
Sammi
Like, that's the other thing.
00:58:13
Steve
Yeah, that's not let's not put the baby cart before the horse here. Come on.
00:58:16
Sammi
Well, and Spencer's like, I want to move in with you, like, as soon as this is over.
00:58:20
Steve
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:58:22
Sammi
And Jess, being the smart one, was like, ah slow down. Okay? We're still getting to know each other. I'm not ready for that right off but after this. Like, that that's a lot.
00:58:35
Sammi
Things are going really well. But, like,
00:58:36
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:58:37
Sammi
um'm I'm not ready for all that. And he was like, oh, that hurts me. And it's like, that should make you feel really good.
00:58:43
Steve
Yeah.
00:58:43
Sammi
That should make you feel really good that she is not trying to love bomb you or over promise or anything. And she mentioned that she moved for her last relationship and she felt like that was a mistake. So obviously that's kind of triggering to her She's not one of those people. Like I'm, I'm been historically the kind of person who's like, I'm happy to kind of live anywhere. I'm down. Like I'll try whatever. I don't care.
00:59:07
Sammi
Um, but you know, not everyone's like that. And she's not like that. And, and it's not her decision either. She would be moving for Spencer. So she's like, I want to, when I move, I wanted to be, I'm moving for me.
00:59:20
Sammi
It's cause I want to do it.
00:59:22
Steve
Yeah.
00:59:22
Sammi
Um, I think that's totally valid again. a person who's being realistic in paradise. And I thought kind of she'd be like stars in her eyes, like, oh, yeah, this is going to all work out.
00:59:33
Sammi
And she was like, whoa, hold on, slow down.
00:59:35
Steve
thanks
00:59:35
Sammi
OK, like we are still getting to know each other. And Spencer was like, I feel so betrayed and hurt by that. I was like, hi She's being honest with you.
00:59:44
Steve
Yeah.
00:59:44
Sammi
Like, I feel like all the couples have actually been pretty honest at this point. They're like, this is where we're at.
00:59:50
Steve
Mm-hmm.
00:59:50
Sammi
We'll see what happens. I don't know if there's going any engagements coming out of the beach, but if there is one, I think it is going to be Bailey and Jeremy.
00:59:58
Steve
Yeah, because ew.
00:59:58
Sammi
I don't know. I don't know.
00:59:59
Steve
Yeah.
01:00:00
Sammi
I'm bracing for that. um Let's see. Yeah.
01:00:04
Steve
Nobody finds love, nobody gets the money. That's actually, no you know what's going to happen is someone is going to get $500,000, but none of these couples are going to stay together. And then all their like waffling and all their, we're going to find love on the beach.
01:00:11
Sammi
Yeah.
01:00:18
Steve
Shut
01:00:19
Sammi
I mean, i'm interested, like, let's say it's like Bailey and Jeremy who make it all the way to the end. Right. I think they would both say that they would split the money.
01:00:32
Steve
Could
01:00:32
Sammi
So I think they each walk away with $250,000 and they might be engaged.
01:00:36
Steve
be.
01:00:37
Sammi
That would be my guess of how this season is going to end.
01:00:38
Steve
ah
01:00:41
Sammi
But I literally haven't looked at anything. Um, But and I'm going in my mind going, that's where this is heading. don't know. We'll see.
01:00:51
Steve
could be
01:00:51
Sammi
um Also, okay, this was interesting. We find out um right before the rose ceremony that the girls have a tradition that when the men have the roses, the women don't drink. I didn't know that.
01:01:03
Steve
didn't know that either.
01:01:03
Sammi
And then Leia's like, well, I'm drinking.
01:01:05
Steve
wow
01:01:05
Sammi
So she's like, she's like, so fuck that.
01:01:07
Steve
She knows. Writing's on the wall.
01:01:10
Sammi
Oh, yeah. Did Dr. Laura even really talk about Leia and Jonathan at all?
01:01:14
Steve
No, say I mean, they gave them the same type of thing that she gave, like, Kathy, where she's just like, yeah, you guys...
01:01:17
Sammi
Kathy and Keith. Yeah. i don't I don't have any notes for them. Yeah.
01:01:20
Steve
Oh, you're not here to find love.
01:01:23
Sammi
It's like, yeah, that's been established.
01:01:24
Steve
Yeah, they found each other. That's all that was left.
01:01:27
Sammi
But couldn't you like be constructive and say, oh, these are the things that are working between the two of you in a romantic relationship. This could mean this or like you could leverage this in a romantic.
01:01:38
Sammi
I know.
01:01:38
Steve
Or you could just be tight bros.
Aaron and James: The Dynamic Duo
01:01:40
Steve
Like, who cares?
01:01:41
Sammi
Yeah, well, there are other types of relationships that exist in the world, goddammit.
01:01:45
Steve
Yeah, Dr. Laura.
01:01:45
Sammi
Let's focus on that. Okay, sorry.
01:01:47
Steve
What about being buds?
01:01:48
Sammi
Yeah. How are they as buds?
01:01:51
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:01:51
Sammi
Okay, that's what I want to know. Okay. Is this a buddy comedy in the making or is it not? That's what I want know. ah that's That would be, if I came on the show, I would be like, I really like, well, didn't you send me a TikTok?
01:02:03
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:02:07
Sammi
I don't remember what day that was of like, this is what we need on Paradise. And it was just like Aaron and James.
01:02:14
Steve
Yes. Yeah, just Aaron and James frolicking around.
01:02:16
Sammi
That's what I said.
01:02:17
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:02:18
Sammi
That's what I said years ago. I said, they need to be the new hosts of everything, first of all.
01:02:22
Steve
New show, Buds in Paradise. Find your new best bud.
01:02:26
Sammi
Because they made the show so good.
01:02:27
Steve
Doesn't matter. Yeah. Doesn't matter if it's if it's another guy, if it's a golden, if it's a gal, whatever.
01:02:29
Sammi
You need them back on the beach.
01:02:33
Steve
Just find a bud.
01:02:33
Sammi
It doesn't matter. Just connect and have fun.
01:02:35
Steve
Yeah.
01:02:37
Sammi
And yeah, they need to be hosts. The fact that they haven't come back is criminal. Criminal.
01:02:42
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:02:45
Sammi
I don't know. Uh, okay. But I remember that. And, uh, yeah, I was like, this is what I've been saying. Someone made a really good, like fan edit of the two of them in love.
01:02:57
Steve
it was nice. Mm-hmm.
01:02:58
Sammi
It was really cute. Um, anyway, I forgot about that. Um, okay.
Keith's Dilemma and Contestant Dynamics
01:03:04
Sammi
So this was like a weird situation. um we get to the end of this row ceremony.
01:03:11
Sammi
um Keith is like, I'm homesick and I want to leave. And we've already heard from one of the other women that they only have four more days.
01:03:20
Steve
hu
01:03:21
Sammi
Like four more. They're like, I think there's only like four days left. Hello, Keith, wait four more days for a chance at half a million dollars.
01:03:29
Steve
Yeah, you ding-dong baby.
01:03:29
Sammi
Wait four more days. What are you And he's like, I'm homesick. I got to go. And Kathy's like, oh, my God, I got to try to keep this guy in the race. What the hell?
01:03:39
Steve
Yeah. four You can't... Four days? For $500,000, I'd go camping for four days.
01:03:45
Sammi
See, there you go. So, yeah, I'm just like, you made it this far where I'm like day 18, day 19.
01:03:53
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:03:53
Sammi
That's not that long. I know you miss your family, but like four more days is not going to make a difference.
01:04:01
Steve
No, does not make a lick difference.
01:04:02
Sammi
just hold the line. um So he's like, it's time to go. um They get down to the voting. um Like, which man will not have a rose to hand out?
01:04:14
Sammi
And there was a tie vote. And so Dale and Cap need to make the final decision of who's going to get the rose. And Jonathan and was it Jonathan and Keith?
01:04:29
Sammi
Right. We're on the chopping block. And Dale's like, well, Jonathan tried for my lady. So.
01:04:38
Steve
and Which again, it's like, what?
01:04:40
Sammi
That kind of came out of nowhere.
01:04:41
Steve
That's like day two, dude.
01:04:44
Sammi
Well, he has kind of flirted with Kat on and off, but that was when Dale was being kind shitty Kat.
01:04:49
Steve
Yeah, I'm sorry, Dale.
01:04:49
Sammi
It's not like he was doing it.
01:04:51
Steve
You put your tongue down that boxing girl's throat. and
01:04:54
Sammi
Yeah, it was always like in reaction to Kat being hurt by Dale. And she was like, i don't know if I want to be with him. And Jonathan's like, well, maybe you can give me some attention.
01:05:01
Steve
yeah
01:05:03
Sammi
Hey, he's playing the game. He's doing the thing that everybody wants him to do. And then they get mad at him when he doesn't do it. so was doing it this That was clear evidence of him trying to entertain other women.
01:05:11
Steve
yeah
01:05:14
Sammi
And then she went right back to Dale.
01:05:15
Steve
Bachelor Nation, stop hating Jonathan.
01:05:17
Sammi
Seriously, justice for Jonathan. So so but yeah, so Dale is like, I'm about to do the pettiest thing ever. And you're leaving, which good for you.
01:05:27
Steve
v
01:05:30
Steve
Sure, yeah.
01:05:30
Sammi
um So yeah, so Jonathan and Leia are out and I don't I didn't think they were going to make it the whole way. So, you know, they made it as long as they did. i don't think they were that surprised.
01:05:41
Sammi
It was like, okay, but then here's like the other thing that's weird. So there's this other like really fast round on the same episode.
Backstabbing Game and Strategic Plays
01:05:51
Sammi
So they get this riddle that doesn't make any sense.
01:05:54
Sammi
Nobody understands it. i I need to look at that riddle again. i don't, it didn't make sense to me either.
01:06:00
Steve
no
01:06:01
Sammi
Yeah. And I didn't really speak to like what they were about to do, but they were doing this backstabbing thing. um If you can find it, you can read into it. um But they do this backstabbing thing the next day and they're like asking all these questions like whose antics are getting old, like are um for their counterpart.
01:06:23
Sammi
Yeah.
01:06:23
Steve
Wow.
01:06:23
Sammi
Um, who will sour on the relationship? Who's got the biggest codependency issues? Um, who's most likely talking to an ex or others, which people didn't pick cat.
01:06:37
Sammi
People picked Jeremy. Um, who keeps the most secrets from their partner?
01:06:43
Steve
oh
01:06:43
Sammi
Who's more motivated by money? Who's more likely to cheat? um Who doesn't deserve to be here? And so some of the things I pulled, at least based on the way they edited it, I don't know, ah that they think Alex is going to get tired of Andrew's antics.
01:06:49
Steve
wow
01:06:59
Sammi
I mean, I think they're both kind of wacky.
01:07:02
Steve
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
01:07:02
Sammi
I'm not worried about it. He's got like weird accents and she's like, I'm so awkward. yeah I think it works. I don't know. I think it's good.
01:07:09
Steve
he
01:07:10
Sammi
um Yeah. That cat will sour, but Dale will also sour on their relationship. um Jess and Spencer have the biggest codependency issues, but so do cat and Dale.
01:07:21
Sammi
Yeah.
01:07:22
Steve
But the thing is, I don't even know how many people know what codependency is. They probably just said that it's like because they've been together the longest and they're always together, I guess.
01:07:25
Sammi
Yeah.
01:07:30
Steve
But it's only been two weeks.
01:07:30
Sammi
Yeah.
01:07:31
Steve
Who cares?
01:07:33
Sammi
Yeah, I don't think you could see codependency that quickly.
01:07:37
Steve
No.
01:07:37
Sammi
um Jeremy is most likely talking to an ex or others. I think it's just because of the Susie stuff. Alex and might keep the secrets from a partner. Jeremy could be motivated.
01:07:49
Sammi
by money also most likely to cheat keith doesn't deserve to be here keith catching strays what the hell um and then they had a lightning strike uh within six miles and they're like you gotta go inside we counted in two or whatever
01:08:02
Steve
Everybody go in your hotel rooms and be boring.
01:08:04
Sammi
and gotta go back in. And then they're talking about, okay, strategy again. And Kathy and Keith are like, all right, who should get it? Who should not? Whatever. And Kathy is like, well, I think, you know, the people who should get the money, because he's like, I'm ready to go again. She's like,
01:08:25
Sammi
fine um she's like well let's think about like the people who are less financially secure who could really benefit from the money and try to like really lobby for them or whatever um but andrew and alex win the challenge so they have like the power in the next round but then they get to the ceremony but that's basically where we leave it we're like on a cliffhanger
01:08:34
Steve
Yeah.
01:08:47
Sammi
I thought they were going to like quick cycle through another round. And I was like 8.58 and I was like, are they going to do another one?
01:08:52
Steve
yeah
01:08:53
Sammi
And then they're like, when we see you next week, the tensions are going to be high. yeah and i was like, okay, no, Ryan, I guess not. But yeah, what are your predictions for the, for the show?
01:09:01
Steve
yeah
01:09:04
Sammi
What do you think is going to happen?
01:09:06
Steve
I don't know. i don't.
01:09:10
Steve
ah Jeremy and Spencer are the only two that I think like one one of those two couples, the Spencer's or the Jeremy's are going to come out on top.
01:09:18
Sammi
Yeah.
01:09:20
Sammi
The Spencers or the Jaredies?
01:09:20
Steve
Jeremy.
01:09:22
Sammi
Okay, heteronormativity. Okay, patriarchy.
01:09:26
Steve
it's Sorry, this was for the fellas. No, actually, what I mean is Spencer and Jeremy are going to kiss.
01:09:32
Sammi
Now kiss.
01:09:32
Steve
Uh, no, I, I don't know. I don't, I don't love like long-term prospects for any of these couples. and i And I don't know if anyone's strategic enough. The only one who seems to be thinking semi-strategically is Spencer.
01:09:48
Steve
I think Jeremy is a little bit more of a lunk and therefore may suck more at winning $500,000. Spencer has been like, listen, have very strong relationship. We know each other well enough.
01:10:01
Steve
They're letting, you know, the criticism hits them, water off a duck's back. And I think he's smart enough to to kind of get the win in the end. So if you got to pick somebody, that's who you go with.
01:10:14
Sammi
I think the biggest um threat Spencer and Jess have is that they are the strongest. And if everyone just decides to pick them to get them out,
01:10:24
Steve
Suddenly become strategic. Yeah.
01:10:25
Sammi
out of the running, yeah, they they could definitely have a target on their back, but there are so many weird, loose alliances, and Spencer is very well liked.
01:10:27
Steve
Yeah.
01:10:36
Sammi
Because he's only been with Jess, he hasn't caused any issues with any of the other men at the beach, like...
01:10:41
Steve
Yeah.
01:10:42
Sammi
pursuing anybody else. They've both been on the up and up. Like there is no scandal. So as long as they're friendly to everybody, it's like, well, and you haven't voted for me to my knowledge.
01:10:54
Sammi
So why would I vote for you? So they, they have it really easy that way right now.
01:10:56
Steve
Yeah.
01:10:59
Steve
i I think, cause mean, there's only going to be one more rose ceremony, right? So I would imagine what's going to happen
01:11:04
Sammi
There, it has to get down to like challenges where they get eliminated in other ways.
Critique and Comparisons of Show Format
01:11:09
Steve
Yep.
01:11:09
Sammi
Yeah.
01:11:09
Steve
Yep.
01:11:09
Sammi
Yeah.
01:11:09
Steve
So, I mean, maybe Kathy and Keith go home at the beginning of of the final episode next week.
01:11:13
Sammi
her Because it's is it the finale next week?
01:11:15
Steve
And then after that, you've got those three teams remaining who are just competing in some sort of relationship challenge. I don't even think there's there's going to be like much of a vote anymore.
01:11:26
Sammi
It's got to be right. It's week 10.
01:11:27
Steve
hmm. Yeah.
01:11:28
Sammi
Yeah.
01:11:28
Steve
Episode 10 is the finale.
01:11:28
Sammi
Yeah.
01:11:29
Steve
yeah
01:11:29
Sammi
yeah
01:11:32
Sammi
getting real. It's getting real. But again, it's so weird. It's like it's it's day 19.
01:11:37
Steve
hmm.
01:11:37
Sammi
It's day 19. And in some circumstances, you know, it's like that's one thing they talk about on like Love is Wind, right? Like how close people got because they were literally talking to each other for hours a day and there was nothing else to do. They were forcing them into the situations where they were talking to people for hours upon hours upon hours.
01:11:55
Sammi
And that's all they could do in this show. It's just weird. Cause yeah, it's like they can all go back to their hotel rooms and just like veg out, which is great. I would like it, but it doesn't really make for good TV. It's just not forcing a lot of people to interact the way that they normally do on the beach.
The Jillybox Incident and Wedding Extravagance
01:12:10
Sammi
um Oh, before we close, I have a couple pieces of news, couple things to highlight.
01:12:15
Steve
Oh.
01:12:17
Sammi
um My jelly box is stuck in customs.
01:12:19
Steve
Oh, no. du Do you have to pay a tariff on your Jillybox?
01:12:22
Sammi
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
01:12:24
Steve
Are you serious?
01:12:25
Sammi
Yes, I have to pay a tariff on my Jillybox and there are certain items that are not coming to the United States.
01:12:26
Steve
oh
01:12:30
Steve
No, because the tariffs Trump has disrupted the Jilly box.
01:12:32
Sammi
So, um yes, because of the tariffs. Yes.
01:12:36
Steve
Oh, first they came for some other stuff and I said nothing. And then they came for my Jilly box and there was no one left to speak for Jilly.
01:12:45
Sammi
Yeah, too bad I never shut up. um But yeah, it's this injustice will not stand. Okay, I need to restore my Jillybox. Yeah, I had to pay 20 extra dollars to get this Jillybox.
01:12:57
Steve
That's crazy.
01:12:58
Sammi
And there were things that they couldn't include.
01:13:01
Steve
Yeah, I know there's a lot of Canadian small businesses right now that are just like, we literally can't ship stuff to America anymore.
01:13:01
Sammi
And then
01:13:06
Steve
Like, it's done.
01:13:07
Sammi
Yeah, i worry that it's going to become that soon, but they're trying to make do. And I think they replaced our item with another item that they said was actually worth more. So they were like, how we trying to make it up to you?
01:13:19
Sammi
But I had bought like an add on like an olive oil and they're like, we can't un do that.
01:13:24
Steve
Hmm.
01:13:24
Sammi
So there are certain things that they just like couldn't send me. And then, yeah, there were a couple of things that got like swapped out. So we'll see.
01:13:30
Steve
Maybe we should become smugglers. What do you think?
01:13:32
Sammi
right i and And then listen, I am close enough to Canada that I could try to arrange a pickup with Jilly herself. But she's been a little busy um because besides that, she had to feel like she just sent out an email like today that was like everything's stuck in customs.
01:13:51
Sammi
She just got married.
01:13:53
Steve
Oh, I did not know that.
01:13:53
Sammi
Did you know that? She just got married like a couple days ago. And ah the amount of stuff she had to prep was heinous. It was like 20 different things of of like jewelry and 10 different pairs of shoes.
01:14:08
Sammi
And I think she did multiple outfit changes.
01:14:08
Steve
Oh, God.
01:14:11
Sammi
Extra. So extra. um People on Reddit were not happy about that. They're like, this is overconsumption core. She can go fuck herself. I'm like... She's been with this guy for like, i don't know, 10 plus years or whatever.
01:14:24
Sammi
They're finally getting married.
01:14:25
Steve
Yeah, let her wear some shoes. Who gives a shit?
01:14:26
Sammi
She wants to have like a big production and multiple changes. Listen, it's I been there, done that. It's not for me.
01:14:32
Steve
Mm-hmm.
01:14:33
Sammi
um But it's your it's your one day to play princess.
01:14:34
Steve
Also, what a dumb thing to get mad. I'm mad because the the lady from TV that I have a parasocial relationship with has more shoes than I like.
01:14:41
Sammi
People were so mad. And yeah, like someone said, like, nothing can make you people happy or something like that.
01:14:43
Steve
ah
01:14:47
Steve
ah Pretty much.
01:14:47
Sammi
I was just like, why are you picking on her? At least like she's donating money from every box to charity. It's usually like 40,000 Canadian um to charity with every box.
01:14:58
Steve
Which is at least $12.
01:14:59
Sammi
chi so she well it's gonna be worth more soon um she like you know like works with like certified b corps and local places and interviews all these businesses and does i think a very thoughtful job with her boxes which is why i enjoy them i think they're fun which is why i've got jilly shit all over my house now you know it's like i don't and she's been she's one of the only
01:15:19
Steve
Nope.
01:15:24
Sammi
bachelorettes that everybody consistently talks about being the nicest one like she has been mentioned by multiple like past contestants lots of people in bachelor nation they're always nobody has ever said anything bad about her i'm like can you just let her have her like extra princess moment like the fuck
01:15:38
Steve
nope
01:15:45
Sammi
Um, so anyway, hopefully by next week, the Jilly box will be here and we'll get to do an unboxing at the finale. Um, otherwise we'll, we'll do it in between paradise and our Mormon wives pick up or something.
01:15:58
Steve
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
01:15:59
Sammi
But she literally just emailed again, like today or yes, I keep getting UPS emails that say your package is coming today. Psych. Your package is coming tomorrow. Actually it's the next day and now it's coming.
01:16:11
Sammi
Um, No. like i When I was sorting through my emails today, I'm like, you know okay, what did I miss? like Who sent me stuff? What should i keep you know keep ah track of?
01:16:22
Sammi
There were like 10 emails for that. And I was like, that just seems unnecessary. like Just way too many emails about that.
01:16:33
Sammi
Anyway, so now I know. um But until next week, friends, um take care of yourselves. ah Don't ah do anything. Well, if you have to do something with your nose, don't do anything.
01:16:44
Steve
deep Don't do anything.
01:16:47
Sammi
If you have to do something with your nose, don't don't overexert yourself and take breaks and run a tiny bookshop from a video game.
Sign-off and Humorous Advice
01:16:56
Steve
But don't do needle drugs. Unless...
01:16:58
Sammi
Yeah, just take prescription medication.
01:17:00
Steve
That's right. Prescribed by a doctor. Legally.
01:17:05
Sammi
There may have been things that I took intravenously.
01:17:11
Steve
But under supervision.
01:17:13
Sammi
They were recommended.
01:17:17
Steve
Oh my God.
01:17:20
Sammi
And then they made me eat graham crackers and cranberry juice cocktail.
01:17:23
Steve
Yeah.