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ReddXit: Why FDS is Abandoning Reddit (and You Should Too)
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Reddit Admins are pedo-supporting, anti-lesbian, terrorist enabling, racist, misogynist, violent porn-peddling, bald faced liars who invite & ignore harrassment and abuse of female users and silence dissent. We reject their recent disingenuous attempt to do public damage control ahead of their IPO and we refuse to subject ourselves to their nonsense any further.
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What's up, queens?
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Welcome to the Female Dating Strategy Podcast, the meanest female-only podcast on the internet.
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I'm Ro.
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I'm Savannah.
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And I'm Lilith.
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What's this episode about, ladies?
Criticism of Reddit's Harassment Policies
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Brexit!
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So basically, fuck Reddit.
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Why we're getting the hell off Reddit.
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Demonetized in this video because we're already swearing less than 30 seconds in.
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But I don't care.
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It's worth it.
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I don't care if it gets demonetized.
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I'm so over Reddit.
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I'm so over Reddit.
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Yeah, I'm done.
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Damn it, shit, fuck!
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get as many swear words in the first 30 seconds if this is getting demonetized anyways we're getting as many swear words in there as we can okay um so reddit came out with a post recently on online harassment of women let me pull it up hold on okay so just summarize it because it's it's a it's a lord of horseshit quite frankly everything they're saying is lies and unimportant
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So long story short, Reddit has been trying to, quote unquote, scale up their safety enforcement mechanism.
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So basically trying to protect their user base from harassment and spam.
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And they recently made a post on their Reddit security page called the prevalence of hate directed at women.
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So they said over the last couple of years, we've been focused on doing more to understand and address the particular challenges faced by certain groups of users in the platform.
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This started with our first prevalence of hate study and then our later prevalence of Holocaust nihilism study.
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We'd like to share the results of our recent work to understand the prevalence of hate directed in women.
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And this is what they said their key goals are.
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The key goals of this work were to understand the frequency at which hateful content is directed at users perceived as being women, including trans women.
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Understand how other Redditors respond to this content.
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Understand how Redditors respond differently to users perceived as being women, including trans women.
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Understand how Reddit admins respond to this content.
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Then what they proceed to do is define what they mean by hateful content.
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And they're saying it's misogynistic slurs, as well as content as reporters or action as hateful, along with some indicator that was directed at women.
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It's like they try to create these parameters of the study and they only looked at certain subreddits that they said were women focused and trans inclusive.
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That was the biggest mistake.
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They completely ignored female dating strategy and how we get trans.
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so much misogynistic abuse, including from trans people.
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Actually, it's the trans community that's the most actively hateful towards FDS other than men.
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Normal men, I guess, are the most hateful towards FDS, and close second is trans women.
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And so right out the gates, the premise of this study is rigged.
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Basically, all the study says is that on women-oriented communities, when misogynistic slurs are posted, it's recorded and reported something like 12 times as often as general Reddit public.
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Oh, wow.
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Like we didn't fucking know that already.
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Us on FDS, we'll post like the most normal take ever about like dating tips on how not to get like raped or murdered.
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And then men report that as violence against men.
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Women's self-protection content being reported as violence against men.
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So duh.
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Yeah.
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Content created by women gets reported at extremely high levels because the reporting system gets abused.
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The reporting system isn't used to actually report abusive content.
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It's for abusive people to harass and abuse groups that they don't like.
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harassing women.
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100%.
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And like some of the things that they'll report us for, like, you know, sexual content involving minors, all that sorts of stuff.
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It's just so disingenuous, but it still gets counted as a report according to Reddit.
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They report the worst possible things you could be dinged on on Reddit for just to make sure that Reddit keeps looking at those reports.
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Because I think there's some reports that are handled by bots and then other ones that are handled by Reddit admin.
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So like it could be any given, any given post and they'll report it for like child sexual abuse materials.
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right?
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And they'll do that just like over and over again to create the illusion that we're posting a bunch of bad content.
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Meanwhile, actual child sexual abuse content doesn't get reported as much because the people who have the time and the bandwidth to spend that much time reporting people, like normal people don't do that, right?
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Like only crazy people do that, right?
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So you've got a bunch of mentally disturbed men on Reddit who are mass reporting content by women that
Challenges Faced by FDS Moderators
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they don't like.
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And women, because we have lives and kids and shit to do, more importantly,
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important shit to do with our time.
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We don't have the time or the bandwidth or desire or motivation to spend that kind of time mass reporting men's content or misogynistic content.
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And even if we did, like, Reddit is a male-dominated site.
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The average Reddit user is a male in his 20s or 30s, so it wouldn't even make much of a difference.
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Like 70% of them.
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Yeah, and probably a neat as well.
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So...
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Oh, also, that's not for lack of trying.
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Like, FDS Reddit moderators have been reporting abusive content.
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We have a subreddit called Ban Female Hate Subs, and we have been actually mobilizing in an attempt to get rid of misogynistic content, rape, porn, really fucked up.
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Like, Reddit is mostly, well, maybe not mostly, like, what, 30%, 40% of porn sites, right?
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Yeah.
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It's got to be more than that, surely.
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A very large chunk of it, anyways.
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But so, yeah, we do have some women who spend some time reporting and that goes nowhere.
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Like nothing fucking happens.
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Like men will send me rape threats, death threats, whatever.
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Maybe one times out of ten will their account get banned or face any kind of consequences.
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Most of the time I get a message back saying like, this content, reported content, didn't violate Reddit terms of service, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And I'm just like, again, double middle fingers to Reddit for...
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Fuck you.
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This whole study is just so offensive to me and I'm so angry.
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Fuck Reddit.
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Yeah.
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So it's twofold.
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So they're saying both that women's communities end up having to report a lot more of the hateful content, but they're also claiming that the hateful content is like evenly spread between the two communities, which is bullshit.
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No, which is such bullshit.
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The women-oriented communities are getting reported much more.
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Yeah.
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They clearly tried to like take a scalpel and create... They're working with shit data.
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Exactly.
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They took a scalpel and created parameters that would let them off the hook and give them like the least amount of work while looking like they're giving lip service to women on their website.
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In addition to the fact that
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Not even just with the actual post, it's just the volume of people that report harass women users, right?
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Like that women users are being reported, people in their DMs sending them hateful messages, et cetera.
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And we used to post these on our FDS superfans.
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I mean, it would just be like, I'm going to mow you down with my car.
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I'm going to rape you and your whole family.
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I'm gonna kidnap you and put you in a breeding farm.
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I'm gonna disembowel the three of you.
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Like, we got one that we actually, I think someone sent it to the FBI because it was so graphic about how he wanted to slowly disembowel us, yeah.
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About how they're gonna take a machete to our heads.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna lock you in your house and burn your entire house and your family to the ground.
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I'm gonna find your dogs, I'm gonna rape your dogs and then kill them and then kill you.
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Truly unhinged, truly unhinged people, really.
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And you know, the fucked up thing is like, I used to actually post some of the DMs when I was like a new, young, naive, fresh, like idealistic FDS mod.
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I used to post some of the fucked up DMs that I got from men on FDS superfans, but that just made men send me more misogynistic views because they wanted to get featured on FDS superfans.
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Like,
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They see it as like a sort of badge of honor.
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Like, oh my god, I sent something so fucked up to an FDS mod that I got posted on the FDS subreddit.
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Like, that's the only way that they're ever going to get posted on FDS, I guess.
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So again, it just creates this really perverse incentive.
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So then I had to start ignoring them.
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Or like, if I did complain it, if...
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If I got, for example, a lot of like sissy hypnoporn and complained about that, we had certain subreddits going like, oh, FDS is inciting trans panic or something like that.
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And it's like, we can't talk about an entire community that's harassing and bullying us because it's such a mind fuck, honestly.
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It's like so fucked up.
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Okay, so people are calling them out in the comments, especially female moderators or female subs.
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Like, there's a couple of comments here that are exactly our experience.
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So this one said...
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from Bright Globe.
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How is this real life?
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I am one of these targeted women and around the time you posted this, Reddit suspended my accounts again.
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They ignore I've spent my entire Reddit tenure three to four years now exclusively fighting and reporting and building communities for women.
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I have said I've been repeatedly targeted with weaponized reporting just for doing what I do and doing it with a strong voice.
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All I've gotten was several years of admins blowing me off, using clearly false reports as grounds to suspend, validate the men who threaten while acting like I'm some kind of criminal.
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I do this work offline in real life and online, but Reddit admin has been so adamant with all this bad faith while all the men who openly organize this are protected.
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This post has especially close relationship in timing of my accounts being suspended without cause by pro-women anti-misogyny accounts.
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Does this post mean women like me have a means to be protected on Reddit or have a way to be finally reviewed?
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Or is this just Reddit saying they know women are being attacked and no meaningful action for
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for several years.
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Reddit literally bans three small but very active women subs using the target weaponized reporting of misogynists and don't want to hear it when Matt sent proof.
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These men organized on Reddit, Discord, and off-site.
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The amount of abuse stalking insults allow while Reddit silences non-political, non-hateful female spaces just because men told them to is unbelievable.
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which is our experience too.
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They spam the subreddits with bannable content.
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And if you believe some of the formal mods of other subreddits, female-oriented subreddits, certain types of power mods, they were actually spamming them with child pornography, allegedly, spamming them with bannable content and reprehensible content to do two things, to moralize the mods, make them traumatized from some of the shit they saw, quite frankly, and then also to flood the reporting system so that sub gets flagged as a bannable sub.
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So
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A lot of female subreddits that were focused on female issues got swept up in a bunch of different bandwaves because of these coordinated attacks from people offsite.
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And Reddit admins don't give a shit because quite frankly, a lot of those guys are power mods, meaning free labor and what they're called on Reddit are called Reddit jannies, Reddit janitors, meaning like they're just losers that sit in their basement all day and do nothing good mod Reddit.
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Basically neats.
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Listen to our episode about that.
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Link in bio.
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They're neats.
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On neats.
Reddit's Management Controversies
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So that's their workforce, right?
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So they let these guys do whatever they want and weaponize.
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Use their fucking tiny Reddit power against women, basically.
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There's this weird relationship on Reddit between neats, sexually predatory men, and hating women.
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It's like, they need these people for free labor, and so they don't want to put any limitations on their behavior, and that just allows the grooming and fucked up predatory sexual shit to proliferate.
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Case in point, Amy Challoner.
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Slightly before we get to that, there was a subreddit or there is a subreddit called rbanfetalhatesubs, which has been also targeted for a coordinated attack to get it banned.
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Because what that subreddit does is it documents all of the misogynist stuff.
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Rape porn, like honestly, the most horrific shit you've ever seen or heard of in your life.
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Like I'm somewhat mentally scarred, I guess, forever having known some of this stuff exists.
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Some of the stuff that was on there is truly stuff of nightmares.
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They have like porn where women are being dismembered.
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They have like elaborate drawings of like women being sexually disemboweled.
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And this stuff is allowed to be on Reddit.
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And what's really shocking is when you go to these subreddits, it's just the number of subscribers.
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It's thousands, sometimes millions of subscribers to these subreddits.
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They're huge.
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Yeah.
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So Reddit knows about them.
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So it's not like this is a tiny subreddit that would go under the radar.
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They know it's millions of subscribers to extremely graphic, gory, violent, racist, misogynist porn that they say is perfectly fine while they let all of these guys launch massive coordinated attacks against
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women and let the manosphere fester on Reddit for what, a decade now until it resulted in real world violence.
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That's the incels, that's MGTOW, that's Red Pill, etc.
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Right.
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So even MGTOW is still around.
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It's just quarantine.
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Like Red Pill is still around on Reddit.
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It's just quarantined.
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You can still view it.
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Yeah, what I think is really fucked up is that, like, all of that shit on Reddit is seen as fine, but if you're a lesbian who refuses to take dick, that's considered hate on Reddit, and then those accounts and those subreddits get banned, right?
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That's what I mean about Reddit having a fundamentally skewed moral compass.
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Right.
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So part of the band wave of female subs was female subreddits that were dedicated to lesbians who wanted to date other ladies and ladies classic, right?
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The classic definition of women, right?
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So Reddit basically decided that women organizing themselves, lesbians organizing themselves to just date lesbians is a hate crime.
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And that the trans community, again, because a lot of them are basically Doreen the dog walker, they're neats who are perpetually online, don't have any real friends.
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And I'm not going to detail any of their names or any specific people.
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But if you Google, you can find extensive, extensive documentation on some of the Reddit power moderators who are part of this group of trans women who are either like,
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Wife beaters or pedophiles or have various other like history of committing sex crimes.
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I'm not going to name any names.
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Including Amy Chaloner, who we will talk about because that one's public, but there's other ones who are.
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And we're not going to dox them, but if you know, you know.
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If you know, you know.
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And basically what they did was they coordinated attacks against any type of lesbian spaces, pushed all the lesbians off the site and said, you can't have it.
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Like, you're not allowed to have a space where you like ladies.
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Ironically, all of the subreddits for porn that are featuring women...
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You're allowed to say women only.
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They're allowed to say females only.
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Or cis women only.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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So once again, it's like a completely and totally unfair treatment between the women on the site and the men on the site.
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If the men want to only masturbate to women and only talk and like be sexually objectifying.
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To female lesbians only.
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Yeah, even lesbian.
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Actually, our lesbians is actually porn, by the way.
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So it's not even like a general discussion for lesbian women.
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So all of the major lesbian subreddits are actually porn.
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That's fine.
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You can be a woman on there and Reddit won't say shit.
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But if you're a lesbian and you only want to look at ladies and you only want to talk to ladies, Reddit will ban you because they find that to be discriminatory.
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This is documented.
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They've been doing this.
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For years.
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Yeah, for years.
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So that's why this whole study that's come out recently about we want to try to reduce hate against females or people who are perceived to be female.
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Fuck you.
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It's bullshit.
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Too little too late.
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And it's not, it's not genuine because like I said, they cherry picked the subreddits they were looking at.
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right?
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Let's be clear about this.
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They refuse to look at any of the harassment towards female subreddits that are specifically for women's issues.
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Specifically, there's been stuff like endometriosis, polycystic ovarian syndrome that got massive amounts of harassment from during the dog walkers on Reddit.
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I'm not kidding, to the point where they had to shut down their subreddits.
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I like how this is like a stand-in for a type of person.
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It is
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There's no way to say it without saying it because I'm like, obviously you can't misgender these people.
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But like when we're saying women, we're not saying like a person who looks like they've actually transitioned.
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We're seeing a type of person who looks like they're probably... Where it's a power trip.
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It's so obviously a power trip.
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It's a power trip and they're a sexual predator.
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During the Doc Walker is a sexual predator who stays on Reddit.
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He's a power mod.
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There's a bunch of people who are specifically like Doreen who are creating very hostile environment for women.
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Now, I don't
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I don't want to purport to say this is reflective of the entire trans community, but it is very reflective of the trans community on Reddit specifically.
00:17:53
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Yeah.
00:17:55
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So that's just something to keep in mind.
00:17:57
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So, so yeah.
00:17:58
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So anyways, like I think a couple of months ago, when was this like last summer when the Amy Chaloner thing blew up?
00:18:05
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Yeah.
00:18:05
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So anybody who's been on Reddit long enough, which would not have been surprised that they hired Amy Chaloner.
00:18:10
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So who is Amy Chaloner?
00:18:11
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If you guys want to explain, cause I've been talking a while.
00:18:14
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Oh yeah, Amy Chaloner basically... Did you want me to explain it?
00:18:18
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Is this person British too?
00:18:19
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Yeah, unfortunately.
00:18:21
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So Amy Chaloner is a well-known British trans activist and they were known, or their father was actually known, for basically keeping two underage girls.
00:18:32
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They must have been about 10 years old or something.
00:18:33
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Basically subjecting them to extreme sexual abuse and the father eventually went to prison.
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Amy Challener, as a result of their actions, they've been suspended from several political parties in the UK.
00:18:44
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When that came out, they were suspended from the Green Party and they accused the Green Party of transphobia, even though they're the most probably trans-liberal party in the UK.
00:18:53
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It became apparent that Amy Challener was aware of what their father was doing to those little girls and they pretended that they didn't know.
00:19:00
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So anyway, Reddit decides to make Amy their flagship employee this time last year.
00:19:06
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It was like eight months ago, I think.
00:19:07
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Yeah, it was like August.
00:19:09
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No, but before that, Amy Chaloner was a power mod on Reddit.
00:19:12
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Oh, yes.
00:19:12
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Yeah.
00:19:13
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And Amy Chaloner's husband was as well a power mod on Reddit.
00:19:16
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And they also modded things like baby diaper fetish porn.
00:19:20
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And, and this mod, by the way, also moderated subreddits for kids and for LGBT kids, specifically.
00:19:29
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And also furry diaper baby porn, while also with the children, so... But let's also talk about Amy Challenor's husband, Nathaniel Knight.
00:19:37
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They pulled up some absolutely disgusting receipts from him basically talking about child porn, you know, making up incest and child porn.
00:19:48
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Writing child erotica.
00:19:49
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Yeah, child erotica.
00:19:51
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It's not possible that Amy didn't know about Nathaniel's perverted interest in children as well, which was just why when Reddit decided to hire them, it was just seen as a ridiculously bad decision to the point where this was probably the only time I've seen subreddits from across the spectrum, like meaning FDS and...
00:20:10
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actually was actually i guess in solidarity with like 99 of reddits when um you know we all took our subreddits private to protest at the hiring decision because it was just so and you and you just know how fucked up your decision making is if 99 of reddit bearing in mind that a lot of reddit are like i like perverts like misogynists themselves if even they're thinking what the fuck that's when you know that you've fucked up big time
00:20:36
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Everyone was private until Steve Huffman himself, the CEO of Reddit, had to come out and make a statement, which was massive bullshit, by the way, that said this person is no longer employed with Reddit, et cetera, et cetera.
00:20:47
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Probably just under an alt now.
00:20:48
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Probably.
00:20:49
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And I know they gave some kind of bullshit reason as well.
00:20:52
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And the reason they even got caught... Oh, here's the other thing.
00:20:54
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The reason Amy Chaloner even got caught and people started drawing attention to the fact that she worked for Reddit is because she started banning anybody who posted links...
00:21:05
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to news stories about her family.
00:21:07
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Criticizing Amy Chaloner.
00:21:09
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Criticizing her family.
00:21:10
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And these are like news links to major news sources, right?
00:21:13
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Like The Guardian, like anything that came from major news.
00:21:16
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Because remember, this is a huge story.
00:21:18
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Yeah, complete power trip.
00:21:20
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And they made a claim that like, oh, we have this bot that bans content that does, we have this new function or algorithm that bans stalking or harassment or whatever.
00:21:30
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And Amy Chaloner is a victim of stalking and harassment or doxing or whatever.
00:21:34
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Right.
00:21:35
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Which like when people started picking that apart, they were like, wait, so you've had this like incredible tool supposedly this whole time and you've chosen not to use it on this millions of other examples.
00:21:44
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Bullshit.
00:21:44
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It's a lie.
00:21:45
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It's a straight up lie.
00:21:46
Speaker
Right.
00:21:47
Speaker
So that's the thing.
00:21:48
Speaker
When Reddit gets called out for something, they fucking lie.
00:21:51
Speaker
Again, this bullshit study is another example of like lying by omission and various other types of it's just so dishonest, like at its core.
00:22:01
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Right.
00:22:01
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They don't actually give a shit about harassment about against women.
00:22:04
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They just want to appear like they're doing something about it.
00:22:07
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And also when the shit went down as well, they tried to say that they didn't know about Amy Tallener's background.
Sustainability Concerns for FDS on Reddit
00:22:13
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People who'd applied for Reddit were coming out and saying this is horseshit because they asked for references.
00:22:18
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So, and you could just do a Google search and all of the shit with their father, with their paedophile husband, it will all come out.
00:22:24
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So you can't tell me that Reddit didn't know that they just hoped that we wouldn't care, but people did care.
00:22:30
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And that's why they started to backtrack.
00:22:32
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So yeah, I want to take it.
00:22:33
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I want to pull over real quick and just talk about why it sucks to be an FDS moderator.
00:22:37
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So you kind of have an idea of all of the challenges that come along with being a Reddit moderator, specifically an FDS moderator, a woman on Reddit in general, and then the apps
00:22:47
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Absolute noncery coming from Reddit admins on purpose, deliberately.
00:22:52
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Amy Challoner was responsible personally before she was hired by Reddit for targeting specifically female-only subs.
00:22:59
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A lot of those female-only subs got banned.
00:23:02
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And then a lot of those users migrated to...
00:23:04
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FDS and then started, some of them were posting bannable content as well as the trolls posting bannable content, which made the workload for Reddit moderators, for the FDS Reddit moderators just explode even more than it already was.
00:23:16
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And it was already bad.
00:23:18
Speaker
Okay.
00:23:18
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So to be transparent, I, Lilith, demodded myself,
00:23:23
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I don't know, like six months ago or something like that.
00:23:25
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Because being a Reddit moderator is just too depressing and also just a waste of my time.
00:23:30
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Like I have better, I have like a job, I have a relationship, I have friends, I have like actual things that add value to my life that I would rather spend my time doing than fighting incels and like assigning flares.
00:23:42
Speaker
Like the whole, the most time consuming thing of being an FDS moderator is going through the mod queue and approving posts.
00:23:49
Speaker
And assigning flares.
00:23:50
Speaker
And we have the flare system to avoid letting men basically to post on the FDS subreddit, you have to have a flare and you get a flare by commenting.
00:23:59
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And then we see your comments and eventually like the moderators can see your contents and eventually we'll give you a flare for pretty confident that you're a woman.
00:24:06
Speaker
Right.
00:24:06
Speaker
Unfortunately, when there's no Flare system, men just spam the subreddit with just constant misogynistic abuse.
00:24:13
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We don't want our users to have to, like our FDS members to have to see that shit.
00:24:17
Speaker
And that's why we have the Flare system, right?
00:24:19
Speaker
And also so we don't get banned because if it goes through and we don't catch it and the mods don't catch it, we also get dinged for that by Reddit admins.
00:24:27
Speaker
Exactly.
00:24:27
Speaker
So yeah, like men constantly posting bannable content.
00:24:30
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This has been a thing ever since FDS was born, basically in like 2019, was men posting bannable content, porn, various other fucked up stuff on the FDS subreddit to try to get FDS banned.
00:24:42
Speaker
Lots of penises.
00:24:43
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Yeah, we saw, I can't tell you, I've saw more dick pics as an FDS Reddit mod than all of the dick pics in the rest of my life combined.
00:24:51
Speaker
Like,
00:24:54
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Male dicks and girl dicks.
00:24:56
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Yeah, yeah.
00:24:57
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A lot of girl dicks too.
00:24:58
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Like dicks peeking out from underneath a little schoolgirl costume or whatever.
00:25:01
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Like, ew.
00:25:02
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Or like just hanging out from the side of some frilly pink panties.
00:25:07
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Like, God.
00:25:09
Speaker
These are the images that have burned in my mind forever and I hate it.
00:25:12
Speaker
I hate it so fucking much.
00:25:14
Speaker
Being an FDS moderator...
00:25:15
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traumatized me honest to god and if you look at the other fds mods like the original fds mods are long gone they either moved on or got like married and some of them have kids now and shit so like they're again like we have better things to do with our time than be a reddit moderator yeah
00:25:33
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Yeah.
00:25:34
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I don't know what else to say.
00:25:35
Speaker
It just sucks so bad.
00:25:36
Speaker
It's so time consuming and so hostile.
00:25:38
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I'd rather spend my time doing other things.
00:25:41
Speaker
The shelf life of an FDS moderator on Reddit is less than a year and possibly less than six months.
00:25:47
Speaker
There's a lot of Reddit moderators that started and they were noped out after like a month.
00:25:52
Speaker
And so trying to get new mods, trying to get people to moderate the subreddit has been a constant struggle.
00:25:58
Speaker
And furthermore, there's like an element of guilt everyone kind of feels because
00:26:03
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It is traumatizing.
00:26:04
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It feels unethical.
00:26:06
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Yeah, it feels unethical to be like.
00:26:07
Speaker
To ask other women to do that, right?
00:26:11
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Like knowing how it affected me mentally, it actually feels unethical for me to ask another woman to do that.
00:26:16
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To spend that kind of time and allow a woman to be traumatized by this kind of work.
00:26:21
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It feels wrong for me to do that to another woman.
00:26:24
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And especially when there's absolutely no rewards, like obviously, you know, Reddit, you know, modest raters aren't paid.
00:26:30
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And it's like, why should we be basically driving traffic to Reddit?
00:26:34
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It's because whenever somebody writes a shitty article about us or our post goes on our all and, you know, the pick me's and the scrotes are tearing us to shreds, driving traffic, you know, why should we be making money for Reddit whilst being subjected to abuse and we're not even protected from that abuse?
00:26:50
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They actually enable it.
00:26:52
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Like, why the fuck should we do that?
00:26:53
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Yeah.
00:26:53
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They actually benefit from the abuse because... Yeah, it drives traffic.
00:26:57
Speaker
The more misogynistic abuse that we get, the more traffic and more ad money that Reddit gets, right?
00:27:02
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I also feel bad for our users in the community.
00:27:04
Speaker
Like, they're not protected.
00:27:06
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If they make a post about something and it goes around, you know, Twitter or Reddit, they get so much horrendous abuse.
00:27:12
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And as moderators, there's nothing we can do to protect them from that.
00:27:15
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It's absolutely awful.
00:27:17
Speaker
Right.
00:27:17
Speaker
So that's partially why, because people always talk about how half the links in the handbook are broken, etc.
00:27:23
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A lot of the users who wrote really great handbook content deleted their accounts because of harassment, abuse.
00:27:30
Speaker
So they don't want to deal with it, right?
00:27:31
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Or they just, like I said, a lot of the mods, especially ones that wrote a lot of the early content, they're long gone.
00:27:36
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They just don't want to deal with it.
00:27:38
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They turned off everything and don't log into those accounts anymore or are barely on.
00:27:42
Speaker
Or their accounts got banned by Reddit because they're women and they got mass reported and there's no way to appeal it.
00:27:48
Speaker
Or they just didn't listen to the appeal, even though they were banned for being subjected to abuse.
00:27:53
Speaker
It's so fucked up and so victim blaming.
00:27:55
Speaker
Exactly.
00:27:56
Speaker
So basically the problem we have, and I think this is the thing that we've just sort of all realized, is that FDS honestly is not...
00:28:04
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continuously sustainable on Reddit because of the fact that it's such a hostile environment.
00:28:09
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It's a hostile environment.
00:28:11
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Our days are numbered and quite frankly have always been numbered because we started the website.
00:28:16
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Because we thought we were going to get banned.
00:28:18
Speaker
Exactly.
00:28:19
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There's a lot of us that are feeling like we love the community.
00:28:22
Speaker
We started the community because of the fact that there was nowhere else on Reddit like it, right?
00:28:27
Speaker
There was so much bad advice, so much hostile, toxic, male-oriented advice for relationships and all the other subreddits.
00:28:33
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Talked about this multiple times here on the FDS podcast.
00:28:36
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In addition to a lot of the other feminist subreddits literally being run by men's rights activists, there's a lot of subreddits that are oriented towards women like our abortion.
00:28:45
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Two X chromosomes.
00:28:46
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Two X chromosomes.
00:28:48
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Our feminism.
00:28:49
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Our feminism.
00:28:50
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And a lot of women, and a lot of women have absolutely no idea about this as well.
00:28:55
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This is the thing.
00:28:56
Speaker
And it's, again, it just goes to show just how male dominated and just how fucking creepy men are that they feel the need to dominate a female-only space.
00:29:04
Speaker
But yeah, our feminism, even the subreddit for women with, um, that who were struggling with body image because they had small breasts.
00:29:12
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It was found out that that was run by a man with a big boob fetish who basically got a kick out of reading all their stories.
00:29:18
Speaker
Or like a small boob humiliation fetish.
00:29:20
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Yeah.
00:29:22
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And they found out.
00:29:22
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So, like, literally, if you're a woman, and I don't mean to sound, like, hyperbolic.
00:29:27
Speaker
Is that hyperbolic?
00:29:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:29
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hyperbolic, but like literally nowhere is safe for you.
00:29:31
Speaker
Like there isn't, apart from FDS, there's not a subreddit where you can go that is supposedly women.
00:29:37
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There isn't really a subreddit where you can go.
00:29:39
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There's actually four women.
00:29:41
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It doesn't really exist because these men, they just have to find a way in.
00:29:45
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And even FDS isn't safe because we are the only truly female-only space on Reddit.
00:29:50
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We are the lightning rod for all of the misogynistic abuse, for misogynists of all stripes.
00:29:55
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And it's just, it's, it's exhausting.
00:29:59
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It's exhausting.
00:29:59
Speaker
And even when, you know, like, the topic is nothing to do with FDS,
00:30:03
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Like, say there's a thread on like, World News or Art All about just a general dating theory or like, you know, about gender dynamics, some script will always bring in our FDS somewhere and then the abuse starts then as well.
00:30:16
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They'll be like, oh, this reminds me of FDS.
00:30:18
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And then they all, everyone's like, oh, what's FDS?
00:30:20
Speaker
And then they go to FDS, this is the worst thing I've ever seen.
00:30:23
Speaker
My eyes literally started bleeding as soon as I started reading that subreddit.
00:30:27
Speaker
They're the most toxic subreddit on Reddit.
00:30:29
Speaker
And then they mass report everything and like, oh, you think we're the worst?
00:30:32
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You must know I've seen all the rape porn.
00:30:34
Speaker
And then they start abusing our users, our mod team, then get.
00:30:37
Speaker
And they would report years old posts.
00:30:40
Speaker
It's just a shitty cycle that just has no reward.
00:30:43
Speaker
I feel like I'm being held hostage by Reddit.
00:30:45
Speaker
Like, that's the thing.
00:30:45
Speaker
Like, they create this rigged system of rules.
00:30:48
Speaker
Like, oh, you can't say hate speech, but we're not going to ban the actual hate speech.
00:30:52
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We're going to ban the people complaining about the actual hate speech.
00:30:54
Speaker
And so you have to like walk on eggshells and do all these crazy things.
00:30:58
Speaker
There are so many double standards that are applied to FDS where we get punished for things that other subreddits don't.
00:31:03
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Like a while back, we had to have a rule like you cannot even mention other subreddits because if you do, that's brigading.
00:31:09
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But other subreddits mention FDS all the time and cause actual brigading and actual dick pics and actual abuse.
00:31:16
Speaker
And they get away with that scot-free.
00:31:18
Speaker
And vote manipulation as well.
00:31:20
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So like there's the system of rules that like exist to punish us that other subreddits that are male dominated, they don't have to follow those rules.
00:31:28
Speaker
But when we complain about other people not following those rules, we get punished for that.
00:31:32
Speaker
Like that's the hate speech.
00:31:33
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And moreover, like the whole reason why they do this, like the false flag accounts, the posting fucked up stuff in our mod queue to make us look at it.
00:31:41
Speaker
All of that is to try to demoralize us and make us get banned.
00:31:45
Speaker
It's like the harder we fight against being banned,
00:31:48
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the more effort and more like mental energy is wasted.
00:31:51
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And so I, it feels, it feels futile because they want us to be banned, but the work that we have to put into not getting banned isn't worth it.
00:31:58
Speaker
Isn't worth being on Reddit.
00:31:59
Speaker
It isn't.
00:32:00
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Agreed.
00:32:01
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And quite frankly, the subreddit, people have been complaining about the subreddit going downhill because there's just, what's happening is the women who were there that were really based in writing good strategy and had great lives and could really like help women and give them good advice.
00:32:14
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Those women are turned off being in that environment.
00:32:16
Speaker
And like,
00:32:17
Speaker
I'm just, I mean, just looking casually at the numbers nowadays of like who's actually in the subreddit.
00:32:21
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It used to be consistently in the thousands all the time.
00:32:25
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And now it's lucky if at any given time, it's like five or 600 people on the subreddit.
00:32:31
Speaker
I haven't browsed Reddit in months.
00:32:33
Speaker
And my mental health has been so much better.
00:32:34
Speaker
Like, not using Reddit has made me feel so much happier and way less depressed, way less anxious.
00:32:40
Speaker
The quality of my life has significantly improved since I stopped using Reddit.
00:32:45
Speaker
What else is there to say, honestly?
00:32:47
Speaker
And also, from a content perspective, like, where I briefly touched on as well, you know, FDS...
00:32:52
Speaker
was known for its strategic direction, its strategic commentary, but partly because of the band wave and partly because, again, this is where Reddit fucks us up, is that the negative posts, they gain more traction, generally speaking.
00:33:04
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So you can now have a really, really well-written strategy post that will maybe have maybe a hundred upvotes.
00:33:10
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But if you then put in a TikTok or a meme or something about, you know, for example, male depravity, that will get thousands of upvotes.
00:33:18
Speaker
So then it's also like, firstly, what's the incentive for people to keep prank strategy if, you know, it isn't going to be upvoted and actually seen by people?
00:33:26
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But secondly, it's also the subreddit's direction is increasingly becoming more meme picture focused and less strategy focused, which is, you know, what it was supposed to be in the beginning.
00:33:36
Speaker
And it wouldn't be so bad if the memes weren't so toxic.
00:33:38
Speaker
The problem is really that it's toxic.
00:33:40
Speaker
Like it was at one point people were posting like the cute kind of girl boss stuff or cute clapbacks from TikTok and stuff.
00:33:46
Speaker
And that was more than fine.
00:33:48
Speaker
But over time, it's just no one wants to do that anymore.
00:33:50
Speaker
Again, there's no benefit if you're not getting the strategy content because then you could just go to TikTok, right?
00:33:55
Speaker
Also, not going to lie, but some of our own like FDS fan base kind of pisses me off, too.
00:33:59
Speaker
Not
Decision for FDS to Exit Reddit
00:34:00
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going to lie.
00:34:00
Speaker
Like one of the things that bothered me as a mod was getting mod mail from allegedly women may not have been women, but people saying like, I've been commenting on FDS for months and where's my flair?
00:34:10
Speaker
Or, you know, just being really demanding and like talking all this like horrible things about the mods.
00:34:16
Speaker
And it's like, what's the point of doing all this work if I'm not even, if all I'm going to get is shit from my own community?
00:34:21
Speaker
I don't know.
00:34:21
Speaker
It's like just low key, like kind of like Karen vibes, like, sorry that our customer service isn't as good as you would like, you know, but this is something that we do for free.
00:34:29
Speaker
And it's the whole flare system is necessary to prevent us from getting banned so that you can enjoy this comment.
00:34:36
Speaker
You're frustrated you haven't gotten the flare.
00:34:38
Speaker
I'm sorry.
00:34:40
Speaker
I was too busy trying to delete all of the dick pics from my memory.
00:34:44
Speaker
And I wish it was just dick pics.
00:34:45
Speaker
It was guys sitting on toilets.
00:34:47
Speaker
There was like jizz pictures.
00:34:49
Speaker
I mean, truly disgusting shit.
00:34:52
Speaker
AOC deep fakes, Nazi hentai, sissy hypnoporn, all of this...
00:34:57
Speaker
I just wanted to make a point about the porn thing.
00:34:59
Speaker
Like, cause this is the one thing that really, really also bothered me as an FDS moderator.
00:35:03
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It's like sending us dick pics.
00:35:04
Speaker
It's like a fuck you to women for us having a female only space.
00:35:08
Speaker
Right.
00:35:09
Speaker
We would ban a guy and then he'd come back a day later being like, well, I identify as a woman now and now you have to let me on.
00:35:14
Speaker
And if you don't, you're not trans inclusive and I'm going to get you banned.
00:35:18
Speaker
Like it's very coercive.
00:35:19
Speaker
The whole dynamic on Reddit.
00:35:21
Speaker
That's what I mean about.
00:35:22
Speaker
I feel like I'm being held hostage by this set of rules that's rigged against me.
00:35:26
Speaker
So what's the point?
00:35:28
Speaker
What's the point of being on Reddit?
00:35:29
Speaker
Like, why?
00:35:30
Speaker
Why are we doing this?
00:35:31
Speaker
Exactly.
00:35:31
Speaker
And we just get, and we just start just getting crap from both ends, from, you know, even sometimes from, you know, the women that we try to help.
00:35:38
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And in a way, it makes me really, really sad that, unfortunately, genuine women get caught up in the flair system, because if that didn't exist, and I'm pretty sure we'd be able to reach more women, but because of the atmosphere and the environment on Reddit, we just can't afford to not have it.
00:35:52
Speaker
So then the women who are caught up in it
00:35:55
Speaker
As opposed to, I guess, having some level of understanding, they just go to other subreddits and then just start bitching about us, and then that adds to the hate even more.
00:36:02
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Yeah, it's like the audacity to complain about FDS moderators not giving you good enough customer service when it's something... To be an FDS moderator...
00:36:10
Speaker
to go through insurmountable abuse, like a truly Sisyphean amount of online abuse, and not get paid for it, and you have the audacity to complain about us not doing a good enough job?
00:36:21
Speaker
Fuck you.
00:36:21
Speaker
And then these same women will then go on other subreddits saying, I really wish there was a female-only space.
00:36:26
Speaker
I was like, but when we try and have one, you guys start complaining.
00:36:30
Speaker
But the thing about Reddit is that literally anybody can make a subreddit.
00:36:33
Speaker
So I would invite some of the people who are critical of the way that the moderators ran female dating strategy.
00:36:38
Speaker
And yes, some of the moderators were really hostile.
00:36:41
Speaker
And in fact, I know that we took the subreddit private a few times because the moderators were fucking losing it because of...
00:36:46
Speaker
the criticism.
00:36:48
Speaker
I mean, it's true, right?
00:36:49
Speaker
They were losing it because of the criticism from the community.
00:36:52
Speaker
And they were basically like, we're like, fuck you, we're going to put all this work and make all this content for you.
00:36:56
Speaker
And you're still going to bitch at us.
00:36:57
Speaker
Fuck you.
00:36:58
Speaker
We're going to take it away.
00:36:59
Speaker
Truthfully, I know that some of the mods were losing it.
00:37:01
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And some of the user base were complaining about certain mods, like being assholes.
00:37:04
Speaker
But I'm like, that's kind of what Lilith is describing is basically why is that it's just all it is, is getting shit on constantly.
00:37:10
Speaker
If you had to go through that, if you had to go through that, like we did, you would be an asshole too.
00:37:16
Speaker
Honestly, it would make you jaded as well, okay?
00:37:19
Speaker
And it's not just about power trips, right?
00:37:21
Speaker
Because people think, like, oh, they have a little power.
00:37:23
Speaker
And it's like, no, I promise you.
00:37:24
Speaker
We don't even get paid, like.
00:37:27
Speaker
You don't even have any power.
00:37:29
Speaker
It's actually a completely powerless position.
00:37:31
Speaker
Being an FDS moderator is not a power position.
00:37:33
Speaker
It is the epitome of being Reddit janitors, is what you are.
00:37:37
Speaker
Yeah, it is the epitome of being powerless, of just being, like, at the bottom of the caste system on Reddit and just being constantly shit on by everybody.
00:37:47
Speaker
It's not fun.
00:37:48
Speaker
There's no power there.
00:37:49
Speaker
There's no power.
00:37:50
Speaker
I promise you, none of the moderators I talk to, like their egos aren't stroked by being a Reddit moderator.
00:37:56
Speaker
They're actually truly doing it out of altruistic reasons.
00:37:58
Speaker
Like they're not feeling, they're not feeling like this is a fulfilling part of their life and that they're getting any type of ego stroke from doing it.
00:38:05
Speaker
And so many of them actually have like high class stellar careers.
00:38:09
Speaker
So they don't need to be a Reddit mod to feel relevant.
00:38:12
Speaker
They don't.
00:38:13
Speaker
They're all in really, really awesome degrees earning extremely good money.
00:38:17
Speaker
Oh, no.
00:38:18
Speaker
All my favorite co-mods, like, when we talk about, like, you know, our jobs and stuff and, like, they're all, like, yeah, managers or, like, you know, have various, like, high-powered careers.
00:38:25
Speaker
And it's, like, if your life is that great where you, like, make good money elsewhere and you have, like, good relationships with people and stuff, why would you waste your time as a Reddit moderator, right?
00:38:35
Speaker
I feel like it happened because everyone was home for COVID.
00:38:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:39
Speaker
And then after COVID broke up, it was like, everyone's like, yeah, I'm going back to work now.
00:38:44
Speaker
Like, bye.
00:38:44
Speaker
Yeah, true.
00:38:46
Speaker
FDS was really like a COVID baby in my estimation because of the fact that that was the only time where you'd have a bunch of people working from home who had the time to actually check Reddit and shit because there was nowhere to go or they were just at home more.
00:38:59
Speaker
All of the bots who were like my favorite people have like moved on to greater things and I'm happy for them.
00:39:03
Speaker
Honestly, that's probably for the best.
00:39:05
Speaker
Reddit is a cesspool and I don't think we're going to be able to fix it.
00:39:07
Speaker
And that's like I've moved on.
00:39:09
Speaker
Like, I mean, I'm still involved with the podcast and like the website and stuff.
00:39:13
Speaker
But like, again, I haven't looked at Reddit in months and it's been great for my life.
00:39:16
Speaker
Every time I'm on there, it's just like blood pressure high, right?
00:39:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:19
Speaker
So I just wanted to make a point about how us FDS Reddit moderators, because we have like jobs and like relationships and friends and a life and stuff, we can't compete with the Reddit needs.
00:39:31
Speaker
No way.
00:39:32
Speaker
Check out our last episode that we just released on Needs.
00:39:35
Speaker
Like Reddit was made by Needs for Needs.
00:39:38
Speaker
Okay.
00:39:38
Speaker
Like this is their world.
00:39:39
Speaker
We do not belong to it.
00:39:41
Speaker
Okay.
00:39:42
Speaker
Like there's all these fucking thousands of low value ass men with no jobs living in their mom's basement with way too much fucking free time.
00:39:49
Speaker
All the time in the world to come up with all kinds of crazy convoluted plans to mess with the FDS subreddit moderators and the entire Reddit system, the reporting system, everything was made by them for them to benefit them.
00:40:02
Speaker
We have no way of competing with that if we're just normal people with jobs and lives and stuff, right?
00:40:06
Speaker
Just the sheer number of hours in the day that we can devote to defending ourselves from that is vastly, vastly outweighed by the amount of hours that they have in the day to perpetuate that kind of online abuse.
00:40:16
Speaker
And so that's why we quit.
00:40:17
Speaker
Fuck it.
00:40:18
Speaker
You can have Reddit, leave it to all the needs.
00:40:20
Speaker
Fuck it, we out.
00:40:21
Speaker
Yeah, we're quitting.
00:40:22
Speaker
We'll leave Reddit to the needs.
00:40:23
Speaker
We surrender that territory.
00:40:25
Speaker
We're on to conquer new and better lands, let's just say.
00:40:28
Speaker
And there's no limit to the amount of depravity.
00:40:30
Speaker
There's actually people that have alerts set up so that anybody that makes a new sub or makes a sub that is female focused, they can automatically mass report it.
00:40:41
Speaker
Yes, we're talking about the dregs of the internet.
00:40:44
Speaker
They have entire Discord communities based on harassing women's subreddits.
00:40:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:49
Speaker
And there's like a list.
00:40:50
Speaker
I guess there's some kind of like backend list you can access.
00:40:52
Speaker
You can see every single new subreddit as it's created.
00:40:55
Speaker
And they literally spend all their days monitoring this stuff just to attack...
00:41:01
Speaker
women's communities or like mass report things.
00:41:04
Speaker
And they're basically just internet police or I don't even call them internet police, internet terrorists, really.
00:41:09
Speaker
We know that at FDS, we will never be protected by Reddit admins because we do not allow male people into our female only space.
00:41:17
Speaker
That's why there's no point at all in trying to fight it because the way that Reddit works, it's like if you're a group of women trying to have a women only sub and you exclude males, that's seen as deserving of harassment.
00:41:28
Speaker
Right?
00:41:29
Speaker
So, like, not only are we getting harassed, like, and they don't see the harassment that we receive as a bad thing, they think that we deserve it because we are female only.
00:41:37
Speaker
Right.
00:41:38
Speaker
And furthermore, they don't think anything is abusive or violent or racist if you can masturbate to it.
00:41:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:44
Speaker
Right?
00:41:44
Speaker
So just to give you guys a taste of the kinds of things that have been highlighted by our banned female hate subs about what's going on on Reddit as far as just violent, depraved, anti-female content, you're talking about subreddits like, our mom creep shots, our degrade this pig, our beaten cunts.
00:42:08
Speaker
R-rape confessions, meaning like guys who confess to sexual crimes.
00:42:13
Speaker
Incest confessions, a few of the others.
00:42:16
Speaker
I don't know if that's the actual subreddit, but there's a few subreddits where men talk about committing incest for masturbatory purposes.
00:42:22
Speaker
R-clitorectomy, it's like them fetishizing female genital mutilation.
00:42:27
Speaker
All that shit's fine on Reddit.
00:42:30
Speaker
So it's bad, guys.
00:42:31
Speaker
I'm only reading this out not to...
00:42:34
Speaker
Not to encourage anybody to watch this stuff, but just to let you know that their declaration that they're trying to do something about the hate on the site against women is absolute fucking bullshit.
00:42:45
Speaker
And that the fact that they deliberately sort of cherry-picked what they're considering a female subreddit in the first place and then actively ignore all of these other subreddits that are...
00:42:56
Speaker
completely and totally dedicated to female hate means that they're not actually serious, among a bunch of the other things we've already outlined.
00:43:02
Speaker
So it's bad.
00:43:04
Speaker
Yeah, they're lying.
00:43:05
Speaker
Like, straight up.
00:43:07
Speaker
Yeah, our female genital cutting, it's bad.
00:43:10
Speaker
Our incest feet... I mean, it's just...
Future Plans for FDS Beyond Reddit
00:43:16
Speaker
All of that's fine on Reddit, but again, being a lesbian that doesn't take dick, that's hate speech on Reddit.
00:43:22
Speaker
Again, Reddit was made by the most depraved men on the planet Earth for the most depraved men on the planet Earth.
00:43:31
Speaker
FDS was born of this... This was like the... You know, people think FDS that were extremists because we expect men to pay for dates, or we break up with men at the first sign of disrespect, or, you know, we...
00:43:41
Speaker
A thread of mine on Twitter that men went crazy over lately had them calling me a psychopath was like, this is why I string men along and don't have sex with them.
00:43:49
Speaker
That is considered a hate crime to men.
00:43:51
Speaker
But the actual physical... Talking about female genital mutilation and masturbating to that, that's not seen as hateful.
00:43:59
Speaker
That's just seen as, oh, that's just a fantasy.
00:44:01
Speaker
That's just like, that's fine.
00:44:05
Speaker
And we're done.
00:44:06
Speaker
We've had enough.
00:44:07
Speaker
We can't compete with that.
00:44:09
Speaker
There's no way for us to exist on this website.
00:44:11
Speaker
And quite frankly, we don't want to.
00:44:13
Speaker
I mean, why would I want to keep giving Reddit any type of traffic for them to, quite frankly, disrespect women as a consumer base repeatedly in every single possible conceivable way?
00:44:24
Speaker
And remember, they used to have a female CEO, Ellen Powell, who they ran off the site because she tried to clean up some of this stuff as well as the racism.
00:44:33
Speaker
And the entire Reddit community revolted because they're the most revolting people on the planet.
00:44:38
Speaker
So any attempts to even try to do something like this has been thwarted by their user base, as well as Alex Ohanian, who was one of the co-founders of Reddit and who's also Serena Williams' husband, saying that he basically just gave up.
00:44:52
Speaker
And so he stepped down from the board and was like, maybe hire a black woman to be involved in this.
00:44:56
Speaker
But he basically walked away from it because he thought it was disgusting.
00:45:00
Speaker
He was disgusted with his own creation.
00:45:04
Speaker
I mean, I'm not exaggerating.
00:45:06
Speaker
Google this.
00:45:07
Speaker
Alex Ohanian basically like walked away.
00:45:10
Speaker
I didn't know that Alex Ohanian was married to Serena Williams though.
00:45:13
Speaker
Hold on.
00:45:13
Speaker
I'm Googling this.
00:45:14
Speaker
They look so cute together.
00:45:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:16
Speaker
Alexis Ohanian is Serena Williams' husband who co-founded Reddit, who stepped down because he was just like, he was like, fuck this shit.
00:45:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:26
Speaker
I'm looking at pictures of him and Serena Williams and I'm like, oh, they're so cute together.
00:45:29
Speaker
Anyway.
00:45:29
Speaker
Anyways, yeah.
00:45:31
Speaker
Okay.
00:45:31
Speaker
I stan.
00:45:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:32
Speaker
He wrote, I co-founded Reddit 15 years ago to help people find community and a sense of belonging.
00:45:37
Speaker
It is long overdue to do the right thing.
00:45:38
Speaker
I'm doing this for me, for my family and for my country.
00:45:41
Speaker
Oh, honey.
00:45:41
Speaker
And wrote on Twitter, I'm saying this as a father who needs to be able to answer his black daughter when she asked, what did you do?
00:45:47
Speaker
I stand that.
00:45:48
Speaker
Nice.
00:45:49
Speaker
So we're doing the same thing.
00:45:50
Speaker
We're quitting too.
00:45:51
Speaker
Fuck this shit.
00:45:52
Speaker
We're out.
00:45:53
Speaker
Yeah, we're fucking out of here.
00:45:54
Speaker
And quite frankly, I think anybody who... Should quit Reddit.
00:45:59
Speaker
If you care about women, you should quit Reddit too.
00:46:01
Speaker
Quit Reddit and broadcast this episode to everyone.
00:46:03
Speaker
Because I don't know to the extent that this kind of stuff is public knowledge.
00:46:07
Speaker
I think most of us, as well as...
00:46:10
Speaker
most of the users of FDS were casual Reddit users, believe it or not.
00:46:14
Speaker
Like we got quite a few women who were not actual Reddit users who just made a Reddit account specifically for FDS.
00:46:20
Speaker
And once you scratch beyond the surface of like the stuff they put on the front page, you start to realize like this is, this website is actually fucking disgusting.
00:46:27
Speaker
And,
00:46:28
Speaker
in multiple ways.
00:46:31
Speaker
And it's really, really hateful towards women.
00:46:32
Speaker
And all of the female subreddits are being squatted on by men's rights activists or trans rights activists, right?
00:46:39
Speaker
So you're being pushed into a certain narrative that you may or may not agree with.
00:46:44
Speaker
Mostly you shouldn't agree with it because once again, men's right activists to be pushed in a certain way and to curate what women are allowed to talk about.
00:46:50
Speaker
And also because they get sick sexual pleasure from shaming women and
00:46:56
Speaker
making fun of our problems.
00:46:57
Speaker
So, and gaslighting about stuff.
00:46:58
Speaker
So I just, I can't, I would never in good faith tell anyone to use this fucking site.
00:47:03
Speaker
I hope their IPO goes bust.
00:47:05
Speaker
If you're a woman, quit Reddit.
00:47:07
Speaker
If you're a man and you care about women, you should quit Reddit too.
00:47:10
Speaker
Or change it from within.
00:47:11
Speaker
I don't know.
00:47:11
Speaker
You can try to do that.
00:47:12
Speaker
That's probably a lot of work that we don't want to do.
00:47:14
Speaker
So you can go ahead and try.
00:47:15
Speaker
You would be competing with
00:47:17
Speaker
Stay at home meets.
00:47:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:19
Speaker
They have nothing else better to do.
00:47:20
Speaker
And that's, I mean, that's a larger conversation I would love to do on another podcast about like why, like these, these group of men are basically just internet terrorists.
00:47:28
Speaker
They don't have anything else to do, but mass report.
00:47:32
Speaker
And make people's lives online.
00:47:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:36
Speaker
And then, and quite frankly, it's a way of crushing any type of dissenting opinion and free speech, especially coming from women because women get disproportionately attacked for their opinions in comparison to men.
00:47:48
Speaker
So, you know, as much as men complain about like not being able to speak freely on the internet, that goes double for women.
00:47:54
Speaker
triple for women, quadruple for women.
00:47:56
Speaker
Like men can say whatever the fuck they want.
00:47:58
Speaker
And in fact, I think that whole like, oh, men can't make sexist jokes anymore is like a complete and massive total projection.
00:48:04
Speaker
Men can make all the sexist jokes they want and other men cheer them on and laugh at them and upvote them and protect them and so on.
00:48:11
Speaker
When women make jokes about, or even when women talk about are very, not even joking.
00:48:15
Speaker
I mean, talking about real, actual serious problems we're facing, like online sexual harassment, people sending us porn,
00:48:21
Speaker
That is seen as the problem, as hate speech, and that's what is seen as needs to be silenced in women.
00:48:27
Speaker
And so, fuck this.
00:48:29
Speaker
Like, we're done with these double standards.
00:48:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:31
Speaker
So we just did a, what, 47-minute rant?
00:48:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:35
Speaker
about why Reddit is absolute trash.
00:48:38
Speaker
And we can honestly keep going.
00:48:42
Speaker
We quit.
00:48:42
Speaker
Fuck you.
00:48:43
Speaker
We quit.
00:48:43
Speaker
I quit.
00:48:44
Speaker
Yeah, we quit.
00:48:45
Speaker
I mean, the summation of this is that we're quitting Reddit.
00:48:48
Speaker
It sucks.
00:48:49
Speaker
We hate it.
00:48:50
Speaker
We quit.
00:48:50
Speaker
We don't feel right subjecting additional women to any type of abuse that's on Reddit.
00:48:54
Speaker
This gaslighting coming from Reddit really was... I don't even know if it's the straw that broke the camel's back because our back's been broke.
00:49:03
Speaker
Our back's been broke.
00:49:05
Speaker
All right.
00:49:05
Speaker
Like this was our block and delete moment.
00:49:08
Speaker
Like we were, we were holding it open because we felt like there was benefit and women finding us on Reddit.
00:49:14
Speaker
And it was, you know, yeah.
00:49:16
Speaker
Basically the whole reason why we stuck with it for so long, like, you know, they've been trying to get us banned forever.
00:49:21
Speaker
And it, first of all, it felt like by making this up private or by quitting, like, oh, we're letting them win kind of thing.
00:49:26
Speaker
And so I was like, I don't want to let them win.
00:49:28
Speaker
Right.
00:49:28
Speaker
And then the other part was that like, I feel like more,
00:49:32
Speaker
I get so many DMs from women saying, like, because of you, I've broke up with my abusive boyfriend, or I've leveled up my life, and FDS has really positively impacted my life.
00:49:40
Speaker
And so the reason why I stuck with it is like, ah, it almost feels selfish of me to quit now because so many women benefit from my writing, from our podcast.
00:49:48
Speaker
And so if we quit now, then those women won't be able to benefit.
00:49:53
Speaker
And then, again, we're letting misogynists win, right?
00:49:55
Speaker
And basically, like recently, we've done just a cost benefit analysis.
00:49:59
Speaker
And we think like Reddit is more of a liability than it is beneficial to us.
00:50:04
Speaker
Like all of the time that we have spent moderating Reddit or stressing about Reddit is better spent making more podcast content or writing for our newsletter, which we're going to be launching soon, by the way.
00:50:15
Speaker
Long story short, sign up for a newsletter.
00:50:16
Speaker
Okay, so yeah, let's do our pitch here.
00:50:19
Speaker
So like, I kind of want to end on a positive note.
00:50:21
Speaker
Because we're going to move on to bigger and better things now.
00:50:23
Speaker
We're frustrated.
00:50:24
Speaker
We're ready to move on from Reddit.
00:50:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:25
Speaker
We're moving on is basically the point of this.
00:50:28
Speaker
The point of this podcast episode was to detail all of the problems that we're having with Reddit because I don't know.
00:50:35
Speaker
And why we've had enough.
00:50:36
Speaker
Why we've had enough, and it's like, and saying it in a place where we can say it off Reddit, because if you announce it on Reddit, then you get deleted, you get harassed, et cetera.
00:50:43
Speaker
The Reddit admins are already gutting for the Reddit moderator.
00:50:46
Speaker
So if we go and we talk about Amy Challoner, we already know they're going to ban your account and delete any type of evidence on there if you're on Reddit.
00:50:54
Speaker
That being said, so I'd rather do this in a way where we like have some control over it at least.
00:51:01
Speaker
And we know when it's going to happen.
00:51:02
Speaker
Because that's the thing.
00:51:03
Speaker
That's the other thing is these past two years, moderating Reddit, knowing we could be banned at any moment has been very stressful.
00:51:09
Speaker
It's like this constant like unknown, not knowing like, oh, if I let this post through, is this going to be the one that gets the subreddit banned?
00:51:16
Speaker
It's very stressful.
00:51:16
Speaker
I'd rather just rip the bandaid off and do it when I know it's going to happen.
00:51:20
Speaker
Control over the narrative.
00:51:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:22
Speaker
And leave on our own terms as well.
00:51:24
Speaker
Yeah, leave on our own terms.
00:51:26
Speaker
I'd rather quit than be fired, if that makes sense.
00:51:30
Speaker
You can't fire me!
00:51:31
Speaker
I quit!
00:51:36
Speaker
We quit.
00:51:36
Speaker
Yeah, we quit.
00:51:38
Speaker
Yeah, we quit.
00:51:38
Speaker
I mean, we do.
00:51:39
Speaker
We quit being mods, and we quit trying to prop up what the subreddit is.
00:51:42
Speaker
So...
00:51:43
Speaker
That being said, so I want to add on a positive note because I know we've been going straight negative, but I just wanted to, I think it's good so people can kind of understand the mindset of a lot of the people who have been invested in FDS for a long time, right?
00:51:57
Speaker
So why we wanted to go off site.
00:51:59
Speaker
So
00:52:00
Speaker
All of the problems with the site, we've already documented.
00:52:03
Speaker
The other thing is, truthfully, we want to attract a certain type of person who will have a positive experience being part of the community, and that's just straight up not possible on Reddit.
00:52:13
Speaker
We want money to go to women, not Reddit admins.
00:52:16
Speaker
Exactly.
00:52:17
Speaker
So right now, if you write a good strategy post on Reddit, all you're going to do is get harassed and possibly banned.
00:52:23
Speaker
But-
00:52:24
Speaker
And it's owned by Reddit as well.
00:52:25
Speaker
And it's owned by Reddit.
00:52:26
Speaker
So you don't have a copywriter, but you have nothing.
00:52:29
Speaker
Our incentive and our idea is that, okay, if we have good female content creators who can give us like good strategy on various topics, this is including FDS as well as female level up strategy, just general life advice.
00:52:41
Speaker
We feel like we should...
00:52:43
Speaker
incentivize those people to stay with money, like with compensation, right?
00:52:46
Speaker
And then also have ownership over the content so that like it doesn't get randomly deleted and now we've lost it and now someone either has to recreate it or the handbook just looks the best because it's just all over the place because of the fact that we keep having to change it based on what happens on Reddit.
00:53:00
Speaker
The other thing too is more control over the narrative.
00:53:02
Speaker
Like we said before, it's Reddit.
00:53:04
Speaker
Anybody can post anything.
00:53:05
Speaker
And people have attacked us over like random shit on Reddit.
00:53:08
Speaker
And we're like, we don't... It isn't even associated with us.
00:53:10
Speaker
It's not even associated with us.
00:53:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:12
Speaker
There's this one satire subreddit that there's a few posts that are spread around on Twitter being like, FDS thinks that
00:53:19
Speaker
male suicide is misogynistic and it's like that wasn't even posted on FDS that was posted by a man on like a satire subreddit right bothers me having to constantly fight against men posting these troll posts or posting on other subreddits and being like and it being taken as FDS canon when it's something that's not associated with us at all or we don't agree with
00:53:38
Speaker
Right.
00:53:38
Speaker
So if we have like our own site and we have our own newsletter, et cetera, we can... We can control what's posted there.
00:53:43
Speaker
Yeah, we can control what's posted.
00:53:45
Speaker
We have massively more control over the content.
00:53:47
Speaker
And then like what we would think is published worthy, something we would think is actually like an official thing that we would want to be representative of FDS, right?
00:53:55
Speaker
So just to kind of give everybody an idea, like so far the ball has gotten rolling.
00:53:59
Speaker
Obviously we have our three podcast hosts here.
00:54:01
Speaker
We have Elle on the F...
00:54:02
Speaker
PS podcast.
00:54:03
Speaker
And then we have a few people behind the scenes who are also working on various things at the FDS website, et cetera.
00:54:09
Speaker
So the general vision is, and like we started the podcast, you have seed money to invest in the business, right?
00:54:16
Speaker
So thanks, thanks to all our Patreon subscribers.
00:54:19
Speaker
We have like, God, like 700 plus now,
00:54:22
Speaker
As of, I think we have like 730, 735 as of today.
00:54:25
Speaker
So we've very rapidly grown, gotten a lot of people who are really invested in the business.
00:54:30
Speaker
They're on our Patreon, they're on our Discord, they're giving us ideas.
00:54:34
Speaker
They're really excited for us to build a brand.
00:54:35
Speaker
So we've been using the money that we got from the Patreon towards building other parts of the business.
00:54:41
Speaker
So like redesigning our website, which we knew wasn't great at first.
00:54:44
Speaker
Uh, uh, and also, uh, also getting investing in software, um, to launch a newsletter, also getting our podcast professionally edited.
00:54:53
Speaker
Cause we were, we were doing it and we're very much amateurs over here.
00:54:57
Speaker
So although we did really good, I want to say we did pretty good job.
00:55:01
Speaker
So with that said, we're taking the subreddit private, like indefinitely.
00:55:06
Speaker
So deal with it.
00:55:07
Speaker
Bye.
00:55:10
Speaker
See you on the website.
00:55:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:11
Speaker
I mean, I mean, that's, that's essentially what we have to say about it.
00:55:14
Speaker
Like, it's just, it's not worth it.
00:55:16
Speaker
We don't want to keep giving Reddit the pedo enabling liars that they are any type of clicks, right?
00:55:23
Speaker
They're, they're monetizing our community towards things we don't agree with.
00:55:28
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:55:28
Speaker
Like,
00:55:29
Speaker
So, yeah, I don't like the fact that they're advertising on FDS and FDS is getting a lot of website searches and Google searches and only for them to use that money to support their jailbait subs and shit.
00:55:42
Speaker
So it's an abusive relationship.
00:55:44
Speaker
So we need to block and delete and move on to pastures anew.
00:55:48
Speaker
So this will be what I call the Tupac sign off.
00:55:52
Speaker
If you've ever listened to Hit Em Up by Tupac, I highly recommend going to listen to that.
Community Support & Final Thoughts
00:55:57
Speaker
But yeah, so basically, yeah.
00:55:59
Speaker
So, yeah, fuck you, Reddit.
00:56:02
Speaker
Fuck the Reddit admins.
00:56:04
Speaker
All the trolls who sent us dick pics and all the nasty shit.
00:56:07
Speaker
Fuck you too.
00:56:08
Speaker
FTS red pills.
00:56:10
Speaker
Big fuck you too.
00:56:11
Speaker
Media who took posts from the subreddit out of context to make us look bad.
00:56:15
Speaker
Fuck you too.
00:56:16
Speaker
Fuck you and your mama.
00:56:19
Speaker
First off, fuck you in the click you came.
00:56:21
Speaker
And all the dissent subs, yeah, fuck you too.
00:56:26
Speaker
We're done.
00:56:27
Speaker
All the trolls, all the fun cells as well, fuck you too.
00:56:30
Speaker
Blackpillar, fuck you too for posting bannable content.
00:56:34
Speaker
All the plagiarizers, fuck you too.
00:56:36
Speaker
Who didn't make their own shit, by the way.
00:56:39
Speaker
Make your own shit.
00:56:40
Speaker
If you're so big in bed, if you're so big in bed, make your own shit.
00:56:45
Speaker
I dare you.
00:56:46
Speaker
Fuck you too.
00:56:48
Speaker
Pink pill, fuck you too.
00:56:49
Speaker
Yeah, pink pill, fuck you too.
00:56:51
Speaker
All the people that took the handbook, people that hate FDS but then took all of our work that we put in in the handbook and distributed it everywhere.
00:56:59
Speaker
Fuck you too.
00:57:00
Speaker
Like, fuck the femcells for being mad at people calling femcells after they call themselves femcells and being mad that everyone doesn't understand the nuances of their femcelldom.
00:57:09
Speaker
Fuck all your bad advice.
00:57:10
Speaker
Fuck you too.
00:57:11
Speaker
Fuck all of you people who sent us sissy hypnoporn, fucking girl dick hanging out from under pink schoolgirl panties.
00:57:19
Speaker
Fuck you too.
00:57:20
Speaker
All of you who, whenever we complained about all the abuse that you sent us, you accused us of inciting trans panic.
00:57:26
Speaker
Fuck you too.
00:57:27
Speaker
Yeah, there's two Reddit power mods we want to call out in particular, but we don't want to give them any clout.
00:57:32
Speaker
So fuck those two people as well.
00:57:35
Speaker
Reddit, double middle finger, fuck you.
00:57:38
Speaker
Fuck you the most of all.
00:57:39
Speaker
You can kiss our ass.
00:57:40
Speaker
Eat my whole ass.
00:57:41
Speaker
I want to tell Reddit to suck my dick, but it's not offensive enough.
00:57:45
Speaker
I want it to be worse than that.
00:57:47
Speaker
That's the thing.
00:57:48
Speaker
I wish I had a dick so that I could tell the fucking Reddit CEO to suck it.
00:57:52
Speaker
Like,
00:57:52
Speaker
If I was a man, I would drag my balls through the hot sands of the Sahara and then like double dip it and teabag Reddit.
00:58:00
Speaker
I swear to God.
00:58:01
Speaker
I hate everything about it.
00:58:03
Speaker
It's the worst thing to have happen to society.
00:58:07
Speaker
It's honestly the worst.
00:58:09
Speaker
Fuck you, y'all.
00:58:11
Speaker
It's the reason in a lot of ways FDS exists because they spent the last 10 years unleashing an absolute nightmare via the Manosphere on their platform.
00:58:21
Speaker
A generation of horrible men.
00:58:25
Speaker
A whole generation of fucking scrotes.
00:58:27
Speaker
Yeah, fuck Reddit.
00:58:28
Speaker
And we tried to clean up the mess and they fucking punished us for it.
00:58:31
Speaker
Well, fuck you too.
00:58:32
Speaker
And anyone who thinks Reddit is cool, positive, happy, hip place, yeah, fuck you too.
00:58:38
Speaker
Yeah, anyone who likes Reddit, fuck you too.
00:58:40
Speaker
Let's be clear, half of it's pedophiles.
00:58:42
Speaker
All the pedophiles on Reddit, fuck you too.
00:58:45
Speaker
All the pedophiles, which is mostly, most of them.
00:58:47
Speaker
Because like, every, our teenagers is half middle-aged men.
00:58:53
Speaker
That's another unknown, known thing on Reddit.
00:58:56
Speaker
It's just terrible beyond all description.
00:58:59
Speaker
I hate everything about it.
00:59:00
Speaker
If it goes public, I wish nothing but tanking on it.
00:59:03
Speaker
If you invest in Reddit, fuck you.
00:59:06
Speaker
I hope you lose all your money.
00:59:08
Speaker
We're personally invested in making sure their stock doesn't grow.
00:59:11
Speaker
My faux faux makes sure your stock don't grow.
00:59:18
Speaker
I hope you lose all your fucking money if you invest in Reddit.
00:59:21
Speaker
Fuck you.
00:59:22
Speaker
I hope your shit's in the red forever.
00:59:25
Speaker
Anybody that buys Reddit stock, I hope that shit goes bust immediately and you're sent to the poor house and you're destitute.
00:59:35
Speaker
I hope you never recover!
00:59:36
Speaker
I hope your family's financially crippled for generations upon generations!
00:59:42
Speaker
I wish you nothing but poverty and suffering!
00:59:46
Speaker
And fuck you too.
00:59:47
Speaker
Fuck you if you buy Reddit stock.
00:59:49
Speaker
It's the worst website of all time.
00:59:51
Speaker
They call it Nance Capital.
00:59:53
Speaker
And fuck you too.
00:59:55
Speaker
I've had enough.
00:59:56
Speaker
I've honestly, I'm so done.
00:59:58
Speaker
I've reached...
01:00:00
Speaker
My limit.
01:00:01
Speaker
I'm not done.
01:00:02
Speaker
I have wind in my sails right now.
01:00:06
Speaker
God.
01:00:07
Speaker
Okay.
01:00:08
Speaker
So anyways, if you would like to hear some bonus content, check out our Patreon at patreon.com forward slash the female dating strategy.
01:00:25
Speaker
We're passing around the collection plate.
01:00:29
Speaker
If you want to see us destroy Reddit, I swear to God.
01:00:35
Speaker
We're going to set up a PayPal.
01:00:36
Speaker
Okay, we're going to set up a PayPal on our website.
01:00:38
Speaker
Donate to us so we can get the fuck off Reddit because we hate it.
01:00:43
Speaker
Help us.
01:00:43
Speaker
We're in an abusive relationship.
01:00:45
Speaker
Help us leave.
01:00:46
Speaker
We're in an abusive relationship.
01:00:48
Speaker
Somebody start a GoFundMe.
01:00:50
Speaker
We're in an abusive relationship with our father, Reddit.
01:00:53
Speaker
He keeps exposing us to pedophiles.
01:00:55
Speaker
But if you hate Reddit, give us money.
01:00:59
Speaker
Check the links in the bio, in our bio.
01:01:01
Speaker
So if you want to support our content and you want us to continue to thrive, thrive into the future, go boldly beyond our limitations on Reddit and change women's lives, then donate to our PayPal or sign up for our Patreon.
01:01:19
Speaker
A dollar for us is a fuck you to Reddit.
01:01:30
Speaker
every dollar that you send to us is a fuck you to reddit if you think reddit is full of fucking pedophiles and scrotes don't think you want to give them middle finger give us money so we can create women's content we want to create a positive space for women
01:01:47
Speaker
If you feel bad for all of the fucking trauma that we had to go through as Reddit moderators and all the fucking nasty ass shit, give us money, okay?
01:01:56
Speaker
All of this unpaid labor of having to look at dick pics, okay?
01:02:00
Speaker
I'd like to receive money for that.
01:02:02
Speaker
I hate that fucking snoo and I punched it in the face.
01:02:07
Speaker
Yank that beanie thing off his head.
01:02:08
Speaker
I don't give a shit what it is.
01:02:09
Speaker
What's it called?
01:02:10
Speaker
Yeah, we want to create a more positive, female-friendly space.
01:02:14
Speaker
If I was at Reddit HQ, I'd kick the antenna off the snooze head.
01:02:17
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:20
Speaker
Fuck the Reddit snoo.
01:02:22
Speaker
Fuck you.
01:02:23
Speaker
Oh gosh.
01:02:24
Speaker
So that's our show.
01:02:28
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01:02:31
Speaker
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01:02:34
Speaker
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01:02:37
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01:02:40
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01:02:43
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01:02:52
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Thanks for listening, queens.
01:02:54
Speaker
And for Reddit, a final fuck you two.
01:02:56
Speaker
For all you lurking scrotes out there and Reddit and all the people we mentioned in this episode that we don't like, fuck you two.
01:03:03
Speaker
Fuck you.
01:03:03
Speaker
Fuck you two.
01:03:05
Speaker
Roundhouse kick that snoo to the fucking face.
01:03:07
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:09
Speaker
We're out, folks.
01:03:11
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Die mad.