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What is Your Idea of Healthy?

S1 E6 ยท Just 4 Moms
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In this episode, Caitlin and the hosts dive into what being healthy really means. They start with a chat about "scruffy hospitality" and last-minute tricks for making homes presentable before guests. The conversation moves to Mom Fails, with Kallie struggling to cook with her toddler and Megan hilariously embarrassing herself at Best Buy.

The main topic explores the overwhelming world of health trends, discussing the pressure to follow them, the fear-driven marketing, and how personal health should be defined by self-awareness, not society's changing standards. Megan shares her red light mask experiment, and Charlotte comments on the shift from nightly news to social media influencers shaping health advice.

The episode wraps up with Peaks and Pits, including Caitlin's deer-spotting frustration, Kallie's productivity wins, Megan's joy over fitting into her skinny jeans, and Charlotte's excitement to restart her business newsletter.

Tune in for laughs and a fresh perspective on health!

Transcript

Noisy Snacks & ASMR Appeal

00:00:00
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I need to move these crinkly crackers. When I was in college, I used to always... like I didn't realize it until it was time to eat, but like I always had the noisiest snack.
00:00:10
Speaker
Does anyone understand ASMR? is it a thing? Why do people like it? i don't Am I old? I don't get... like I understand what it is, but I i don't get why it's... I don't like it. No.
00:00:21
Speaker
I actually... like it's that It does the opposite for me. But wait, Charlotte, can we make a rule that you can't say you're old anymore? Maybe, but I also think... I do think, i mean, maybe we are all collectively old. There are definitely things that I just have acknowledged I've aged out of.
00:00:37
Speaker
I just love the volume one. Am I old or is the volume too high on this? My mother used to be like, turn the TV down. And we'd be like, all right. But like, it sounds good to us.
00:00:49
Speaker
yeah Or it's very true. And I do it also. you turn the volume down when you're backing up in your car. Yes, you do that, right? Isn't it crazy? I'm like, everyone be quiet. Be quiet.

Introducing 'Just for Moms' Podcast

00:01:02
Speaker
All right, we should get started. Welcome to Just for Moms. I'm Charlotte. I'm Caitlin. I'm Megan. And I'm Callie. We are regular moms talking about regular stuff like aging, parenthood, work-life balance, and figuring out what's for dinner.
00:01:17
Speaker
Again, no-judgment zone to talk, laugh, and maybe cry about all the things women think about on a daily basis. The things I'll plan, the things I would say, now I right, welcome back, friends. This is Just For Moms. I'm Caitlin. I'm here with Charlotte, Callie, and Megan. I want to start this episode off by reading ah quote that I read in an article that I thought was really just one of those quotes that made me think.

Scruffy Hospitality & Tidying Routines

00:01:42
Speaker
So the quote is, friendship is about preparing a space for authentic conversation, and sometimes authenticity happens when everything is a bit scruffy. So that quote came from an article called What is Scruffy Hospitality?
00:01:56
Speaker
And it is this new wave exception or ah accepting that your house is not going to be perfect when your friends come over. Because it should not be perfect. And like the best things and conversations happen when it's just casual and not planned.
00:02:15
Speaker
So I thought it would be a really fun conversation starter to ask you guys, if you know someone is coming to your house, and you only have a very limited amount of time, what is the one chore or one thing that you do to kind of make your house look more presentable than it actually is.
00:02:33
Speaker
I tidy. But like what? like So our house, we have like a kitchen sunroom area, which is when people come over, that's we just hang out there and stand around the counter. And it's I am not an empty counter type of a person. I just, I cannot achieve that goal, but I can definitely tighten things up. So I will try to even if the sink has stuff in it, I'll just try to clear that main kitchen counter and organize whatever piles of stuff are on the other counters.
00:03:03
Speaker
And then the kids typically just walk out of their shoes. And so I will take the shoes that are midway in between the space and like put them to the side. So I don't, it's not cleaning, it's tidying.
00:03:16
Speaker
And I just make it so it doesn't look You know, I might put the blankets off the floor onto the chair, it's, you know. Fix the pillows. Yeah. Yeah. Mine's almost the same. I just, I i have a ah rule that i use in YouTube and I call it my flat surfaces rule.
00:03:32
Speaker
So it's like, I don't focus on anything that's cleaning. I'm not like wiping or sweeping. I'm just trying to remove things from flat surfaces. So like I would start with either kitchen counters or the dining room table. And then if I had time, I would move to other flat surfaces, but it's just like,
00:03:45
Speaker
taking stuff that's on, you flat surfaces just collect shit. So

Relatable 'Mom Fails' & Image Debate

00:03:49
Speaker
it's removing this stuff from the flat surfaces. That's what I would do. And then obviously dust the baseboards. Right. Of course. Of course.
00:03:57
Speaker
Megan, what about you? Before we have house guests, I go around to all the bathrooms and flush the toilets. That's good. That's a good one. i I feel like I flush our toilets all day long. Like I go in every bathroom and I'm like, oh, he took a shit before he went to school. Great.
00:04:15
Speaker
And just left it there. Thanks. I mean, it's been floating for two hours. Wonderful. you know, like I just like I get nervous. I get nervous that that's going to be in there when they go to pee. And I just like I like we only have three bathrooms in our house.
00:04:30
Speaker
The playroom one has been broken for six years. Don't even get me started on that. Um, so yeah, I just flush all three toilets and hope for the best. What's yours, Caitlin? I vacuum.
00:04:41
Speaker
I don't know. Like, well, I would say flat surfaces. And then I vacuum like our entry, like the main room that you're going to walk into. I made make sure that that room is vacuumed because on any given day at any time of day, there's usually some sort of evidence of whatever Arbor's eaten for the day. So I just like clean up those crumbs. I maybe fix the pillows on the couch and i I'll light a candle because sometimes when it smells nice, people don't notice like for everything else that's going in the house. She chills herself. I love this whole concept though, because it is this funny catch 22 because
00:05:18
Speaker
I think all of us can agree there's a sweet spot between like tidying a house and like if I were to walk into my friend's house and like there wasn't a place to move, that I would argue is probably like I might not feel as welcome.
00:05:33
Speaker
So you like there is a sweet spot. But then I was also thinking about friends that don't, you know, ask for help or they sort of present this very perfect image to the world. And, you know, I think all of us want to be simultaneously like showing that we have our shit together, but also be vulnerable.
00:05:53
Speaker
And it's like, there's this weird inflection point because with that friend that is always presenting perfect to the world, I don't, it like keeps me it keeps me removed and distanced because it's like, all I want to do is be helpful And that's how I show you that I care. But when I'm offering, the answer is always, no, thanks.
00:06:12
Speaker
I'm all set. And so it's like, I can't be like, we will never be as intimate as we could be because you're not letting me help. And, you know, it's not like I'm forcing myself, but it's just like across the board, this is someone who is like, yeah, I'm good.
00:06:27
Speaker
And that's like, it's, it is an interesting, like it's a spectrum. It's not black or white, but I like that. That's what my brain was thinking about when you were talking about how friends need to be scruffy.
00:06:37
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I like the word scruffy. It kind of makes me laugh. I just, if you walk into someone's home and it's very sterile and let's say you kind of know them a little bit, I'm never going to be my full self because I'm going to be reserved and worried that I'm just going to mess something up versus when I walk into someone's home that looks like it's lived in I am going to be more casual.
00:07:01
Speaker
And that, you know, for new moms, like, remember that you don't have to be perfect. People are actually not new moms, just anyone. Anyone. Yeah.
00:07:11
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and Anyone. Also, like, has it you have you ever gone to somebody's house and it's not like it's it's sort of messy and there's stuff out and like you feel a little better almost. You're like, oh, cool. These people are normal like me.
00:07:24
Speaker
Like, I think about that sometimes when people, I don't need it. I don't want it to look like some picture. Sometimes we'll be getting ready for people to come over and Michael will be cleaning some absurd thing.
00:07:34
Speaker
And I'm like, people live, they know people live here. Like, we can leave that out. It's all right. and Yeah. Brandon always says that about the playroom. He's like, it doesn't have to be perfect. They know we have kids and in two seconds it's going to get trashed anyways. So why are you freaking out?
00:07:48
Speaker
Totally. I mean, like you can pick the underwear off the floor. That's a valid, but I know it is that finding that fine line between like, this was an easy five minutes. I feel better. it feels presentable, but like, I'm also not like sterilizing the whatever.
00:08:04
Speaker
No. Yeah. No. And like when the kids too, I feel like I've gone to like play dates and I'm like on edge because the house is like perfect and everything's white. And like, I'm nervous. Like Nico's going to like touch something like a pottery piece of pottery that he's not supposed to. It's like, okay. I like, I liked going to this, the other girl's house where there was just like stuff all over the place, like my house. And then it was like, okay, I can like relax.
00:08:30
Speaker
You don't have to worry if your child's eating Cheetos and puts their hand on the wall and yeah got at a good friend's house. As moms, we we like to talk about our mom fails every episode because we want other moms listening.

Health Trends & Social Media Influence

00:08:44
Speaker
We're just other humans to know that we make mistakes and we do things that are not intentional. No, truthfully, I never have a mom fail because there are so many that I just am not going to pinpoint one when every day I'm doing something wrong, like letting Arbor play with red chapstick that she ultimately paints her face with.
00:09:04
Speaker
She's probably eating. Yeah. So does anyone have a mom fail this week that they would like to share? i have one. It's not really a mom fail, but it's, I feel mom guilt about it. And so I feel like people can relate. My four-year-old wants to cook with me all of the time. It's her most favorite thing. Every time I say I'm going to cook, she's like, please, mommy, can I cook with you? Of course, my sweet girl. I love you. I hate cooking with her.
00:09:26
Speaker
hate it She's a horrible sous chef. Horrible. And I feel bad because every time she's like, can I cook with you? What I really think is, I can't think of anything worse.
00:09:37
Speaker
Is she savvy enough to pick up on if you were to give her a little like fake task to do on the side? Is she savvy enough to realize that she's not contributing to whatever it is you're doing? I've tried that. Not so much. It's more just she actually doesn't want any task I give her. She has a task she wants to do. And I try to explain to her that cooking is following a set of instructions if you want to, but she doesn't. She just, I'll give her a task and she's like, I don't want to do that. only got strawberries. And like, we don't have strawberries. I don't, we don't need them. I don't.
00:10:06
Speaker
I can relate. Yeah. Megan, you look like you had something you wanted to share. Yeah. So I feel like it might be kind of a mom fail and I don't know if I'm setting a bad example. So I will share it and let you ladies decide.
00:10:19
Speaker
Okay. So we were in Best Buy parking lot and we pulled in and I had all three kids in the car and I looked straight across from me and there's this man who's sound asleep taking a nap.
00:10:30
Speaker
ah His wife is definitely inside shopping and he's like, no, no, I'm going to hang out here. So I pull in and and like, it's like right in front of my face. Right. So I said to the kids, I'm I'm going to lay on the horn and then like look the other way. Let's see if he wakes up.
00:10:46
Speaker
And they're like, yeah, do it. So like I like lay on it hard, right? Hard. And I look the other way and I'm trying not to laugh. And I'm like, like to one of my kids in the back, let me know he wakes up.
00:10:58
Speaker
So like he like flinched a little, not fully. Right. But then like the people in the parking lot were looking at us and they're like, You know, like, so then I'm like, I'm going to do it again. They're like, I don't know, mom, like everyone's staring at us. So like we let a few minutes go by and then like I do it again. And like like well and then like everyone's staring at us again. i don't know if I was setting a bad example, if it was a mom fail, but I found it was fun. I don't think it's a mom fail. Okay. I didn't know if I was setting a bad example, but I don't i mean, you might, but I don't.
00:11:34
Speaker
Maybe. I'm not judging. i was I'll just put that out there. Not judging at all. I mean, and if you want a silver lining, and your kids will probably always remember that like time that mom was fun in the Best Buy parking lot. so Exactly. know But they were saying, stop to me. What's your passport?
00:11:51
Speaker
Right? They're like, mom, don't do it again. So it's not a mom fail because your children knew the right choice. Thank you, Kat. Charlotte, did you do anything bad this week? I mean, yes, but nothing that I...
00:12:04
Speaker
Yeah, nothing that I remembered. This week's episode, we're going to talk a little bit about health trends. I think health trends are kind of both fascinating and annoying because...
00:12:17
Speaker
On one hand, I'm like, who thought of this? This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. And then on the other hand, I'm like, oh, this is fun. I want to try it. And so I thought it would be great to share with you some of the trends for 2025 and kind of then segue into like our own thoughts about what we believe is healthy and what we don't.
00:12:36
Speaker
believe it's healthy at all. Before I say that I heard the reason I thought of this, again, I heard a quote. And the quote was, we have all been wired to see healthy through a small lens.
00:12:48
Speaker
And so that kind of affects how what we think is the definition of healthy. And so then I was like, went down this rabbit hole of now I'm looking at health trends for 2025 and so on and so forth. And so here are some of them.
00:13:04
Speaker
And i'm not going to read them all because there's a lot. One of them is wearing healthcare devices like a smartwatch, those aura rings or any kind of ring that tracks ovulation, your sleep patterns and things like that.
00:13:17
Speaker
There is infrared therapy, saunas and cold plunges, personalized medications where you take a test and then they send you a packet based on, you know, vitamins or what your needs are.
00:13:30
Speaker
And then wellness travel, which is rejuvenation beyond borders, going somewhere to better yourself, like taking a spa trip or some kind of wellness retreat of some sort.
00:13:45
Speaker
and All of those trends, I feel like some of them are new, newer than others, but I kind of wanted to get your thoughts and see if you're on any of those.
00:13:56
Speaker
band wagon The idea of health trends is, I guess I'm dubious because it's all generated like follow the money, right? yeah I saw a documentary years ago that I can't remember the name of it, but it was saying what you're saying, how like if you look back over time, this was more about eating and dietary trends, but they were...
00:14:17
Speaker
You know, you can correlate like there was a time when everyone was doing Atkins and then everyone was doing keto and, you know, so on and so forth. There's always something that is like right now everyone's talking about protein. And it's not that anyone is wrong per se, but it is interesting how these notions and ideas of health kind of reach this peak critical talking point. And for the things you mentioned, I can only assume that it has to do with like moving product and someone is making a lot of money.
00:14:45
Speaker
Right now, because of sort of the changeover in politics, there's a lot of discussion about what is it, the Maha movement? All the dietary supplements in that whole industry makes...
00:14:57
Speaker
exponentially more money than big pharma. And none of it is regulated. None of it is really controlled. And it is fascinating that through whatever media or lobbyist or whatever it is, that seems to be lost in a lot of the dialogue. Like we're so busy going after what a broken system this is from an insurance point of view, which it is.
00:15:19
Speaker
And then, you know, that fundamental, like a notion that this other entity is just like cashing checks left, right and center. So I guess for me, it's hard for me to take any of it at total face value. I mean, yeah, I have a red light, like I buy the things and I'm always hoping that it's going to be the next greatest discovery. But I guess in a quiet moment, I'm well aware that this is just like one big money grab. but Right. It's just a trend. and And so to bring it back to the quote that we're all wired to see what healthy is through this lens and like what society is telling us is what we're supposed to be doing. And here's the newest, greatest thing. So you should do this to be healthy.
00:15:59
Speaker
Right. And what I believe personally is health is what you want it to be. And i want my children to grow up and and think of healthy as a certain way that's not defined by society.
00:16:14
Speaker
You know, I don't want them to think that they have to use this ring anymore. to to be healthy that's going to tell them, you know, all of their stats every single day. I think the hardest part for me about the health trends is that I feel like a lot of them are based on feeding off of your fear. Like, I can't think of how many of them are sold to us based on, you know, if you if you use this, you know, this is going to happen. And it's all sort of like...
00:16:39
Speaker
yeah we end up buying these things because we become fearful of what's going to happen if we don't have them. And I think that's what frustrates me about them a lot or how much they will go back and forth, how one year something is really great for you. And then the next year, for some reason now that's not really great for you.
00:16:55
Speaker
And I think that's, super frustrating because we sort of get stuck trying to like, which ones are even healthy? Which ones are we even supposed to do? I mean, to your point, Charlotte, obviously everything has been about protein, but I've been seeing this new wave now where people like, it's not protein, it's fiber. and it's just like, you're like, oh my God, you know, like what? it's So I feel like I've unsubscribed from so much of it because I just feel like you can't really trust anything really, at least from these sort of health health trends.
00:17:25
Speaker
And it it becomes too mentally exhausting, i feel like, for me to try to pinpoint where the truth lies and all of that. It also ends up being sort of, I don't want to say manipulative, but like having a lot of protein is good for you. Like the the messaging is delivered in such a way that it feels very binary. So like, yeah, yeah we should have fiber. We should have protein.
00:17:48
Speaker
But also, you know, if you don't, your world's not going to end. I don't know. I think all of it is presented as very much like This is the be all and into the end all. This is the golden ticket now. Right. So it's not wrong. It's just not, you know, like putting that creepy mask with the red light.
00:18:04
Speaker
I don't know. It may do a little something, but it's not, you know, it's probably not going to make me look 20 years younger. So it's when they say, i don't know. So it's not, it's not going to do any harm, but it's just not.
00:18:17
Speaker
not going to do what I want do. And at the end of the day, ah you know, it's just, I think it's understanding that there isn't one single solution. Like we're a whole person with like so many other, you know, there's so many parts of us from, you know, our physical health to our mental health to, you know, all other aspects.
00:18:32
Speaker
So there's not one thing that's going to work for all of it. What about you, Megan? What do you think? So I will admit i' am the sucker that bought the red light mask and I, these trends get thrown at me and I get sucked right in.
00:18:49
Speaker
I will admit it. And I also bought a membership and did the red light therapy sauna thing where you lay down. I've done the polar plunges. I don't think it's good that I do this, but I just, it's out there. And I feel that Not like, I guess it's a stress and also like I want to try it so then I can like tell people I tried it, I guess, or just, again, because it's trending and it's maybe like I think I'm cool even though I'm not, but I definitely by the buy the trends, try them.
00:19:20
Speaker
And yeah, I, you know, I guess sucked right in and what is. don't you think that part of it is that the people that were here, like gone are the days when you're hearing about this in the last 10 minutes of the nightly news. We're hearing about this from people that we have this parasocial relationship with, people that we like and admire from afar.
00:19:39
Speaker
And so if, you know, fill in the blank, this person is saying, you guys, I've been cold plunging for the last two months and I swear it's changed my life. I feel more energetic. Like look at my skin. I'm going to take them at face value and I'm going to trust that.
00:19:52
Speaker
And it ends up being this roller coaster of like, how can, you know, you might find some people that are obsessed with something new every month. And so you begin to be like, okay, maybe that's not going to be my source. But it's very hard, especially when you're on social media, the way we are to ignore these people that we fundamentally like and admire when they've had some epiphany.
00:20:13
Speaker
Yeah. And it's not to say that these, I mean, I think there's truth and benefit to all of them. I mean, I think there's benefit to cold plunging. I'm sure there's benefit to red light therapy, but I think it's just because there's so many and they're constantly coming and they're constantly clashing against each other. And then they're constantly sold to us via this sort of, if you don't have it, you won't get this or you will get something bad is what makes it so tricky.
00:20:38
Speaker
And I don't mean to say that it's manipulative. I hope it didn't come across that way. I mean, I think If someone is being paid to advertise a different skin cream every month, like that, that feels like a different category. But someone who's cold plunging and is wanting to, you know, espouse the benefits, I think that's coming from a wonderful place of this made a difference in my life and I want to share it. And I think most of the time that's where this messaging is coming from. But to your point, Callie, there's just so much of it that it's...
00:21:03
Speaker
Like, I can't do it all. Yeah. And that's the thing with social media. I mean, I always go back to the thought that, you know, 40 years ago, you might have heard about a few health things from like the ladies on your street that you walk with. But now we hear, you know, we're getting everyone's stories, right?

Mindfulness & Healthy Habit Evolution

00:21:18
Speaker
Their story is literally all day long. So we're hearing just about so many more, too.
00:21:22
Speaker
Or the like liquid IVs that like, you know, that's like a health trend too. I don't know if any of you, I've tried that. Like the drips. What is the sticker that people sleep with? Oh my gosh. I want to try.
00:21:33
Speaker
See Charlotte, I saved that the other night on TikTok shop to order. My mom uses mouth tape. Oh, she's going be so upset you called it out. Sorry, mom. Does it work? ah She said it worked, but then her doctor said not to you. I forget where she's landed on it.
00:21:49
Speaker
I just, how do you not die? Like, what if? Oh, yeah. Doesn't it? I don't even know how it works. Does it tape your mouth closed? The one I saw, it was very, like, chic sticker.
00:22:02
Speaker
And the girl woke up and she was like, oh, this is better. That's better. That's better. And, of course, I saved it and didn't order it. But I saw it and I was like, maybe I should try it. So please try it and come back and let us know if your life has changed.
00:22:15
Speaker
Yeah. I would appreciate that. i will. I'm going I'm going to order it when we get off. Going back to what's healthy and what it means to you, everybody's definition of healthy is different and, you know,
00:22:26
Speaker
Megan's definition of healthy is what's trending. Just kidding.
00:22:33
Speaker
i know my definition of what's healthy has changed throughout my life. and it And it has to do with my relationship with food and my body and my connection to my personal mental health and, and all that jazz.
00:22:46
Speaker
Something I've been doing this year is journaling in the morning with prompts that kind of make me think about different areas of my life. So how I'm resting, how I'm making connections throughout the day with people, how I'm moving my body, my energy level, and I've never paid this close attention to myself before. And it's really been an eye opening experience. And obviously, I'm only a couple weeks into this journal. And I'm really excited to see six months from now how it's evolved and changed and what my habits and patterns are.
00:23:22
Speaker
But I know that there's things that I've been doing forever that I think are healthy and whether they're healthy or not, it's just it's just my routine. And you know, drinking water and brushing my teeth and wearing moisturizer on my face and taking vitamins. But I just, I want to know what you guys, what your definition of healthy is. I know, Charlotte, you're always like, I know what I'm supposed to do and I don't do it. But I, what makes you feel healthy and good?
00:23:50
Speaker
i think, I mean, i I guess I will say two things. I didn't grow up with like healthy as a real body. buzzword or talking point in my family. So it's not something that is front of mind most of the time.
00:24:04
Speaker
But when you ask me right now, i definitely am thinking of more like physical health. And I've always been athletic. And so it's only been, you know, it like recently, I've had to sort of not come to terms with, but just recognize that what was a pretty okay baseline of physical health, I have reached an age where I think I need to not take that for granted anymore. So I have tried to consider like strength training and just being a little bit more aware of that. So I think my first thought is like physical health and I don't eat a lot of junk food. I'm not the best, but I'm not the worst.
00:24:40
Speaker
But I think the area that I don't consider as much is sort of the idea of like mindfulness. I mean, I do think that I'm pretty open and Like, I don't think I move through the world with, what is it, toxic positivity? Like, I've been to therapy. I'm studied therapy. So I do think that I'm sort of open to that.
00:25:00
Speaker
But you were talking about your journal. I think basic mindfulness is not something that I readily... jump into like meditation. i don't do I'm not interested. i don't want to do it. And that probably like that reticence is probably something I should listen It's very rarely a quiet moment around here. There's always a podcast or an audio book. So I do think that that aspect of health is not, that's probably a blind spot for me. So I don't know. I guess it's sort of a moving target. Like you said, it changes as I get older. Yeah. I i always like to hear what other people, how they think.
00:25:34
Speaker
Mindfulness to me was I didn't even know what it meant a couple years ago. And I still kind of don't know what it means. And I don't even, i mean, I write about it. i don't really, couldn't define it, but everybody's different. Callie, how,
00:25:47
Speaker
What's your mentality on healthy? Yeah. I mean, I feel like, yeah, there's like the cornerstones of, of healthy that we all think of, like you have to eat healthy and you have to exercise.
00:25:58
Speaker
Um, but I feel like mine has changed as I've gotten older when I think more, I don't know that I want to say mental health, cause I don't even necessarily mean mental health, but I think just, um,
00:26:11
Speaker
ah the way that I think about the activities that I'm doing and the purpose for them. Like, for example, I never was somebody who ever worked out or liked to exercise because I feel like for a good chunk of my life, it was either because you were supposed to work out or because I wanted to work out to like look good, right? Like in my 20s, I wanted to work out. So I'd be like skinny and I would look good in a bathing suit.
00:26:29
Speaker
And it wasn't until I was pregnant with my third child that all of a sudden I got really good about working out and I was working out every day. obviously i had nothing to do with looking good, right? Like I'm like 40 weeks pregnant.
00:26:40
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It was because it made my body feel good. And I realized that it made me feel good. And my my days were like, I text Caitlin the other day, we were in the middle of a very deep conversation about Onyx Storm, deep theories. And I was like, I got to go work out or I'm going feel like shit.
00:26:54
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So I've sort of adjusted the way that I look at healthy a little bit, because it's more about how it makes me feel. Like I eat good foods, not because... necessarily it's what you're supposed to do and I'm getting the things and it's, you know, the protein it's, I realized that certain foods will make me feel certain ways. So thinking about that and just the other things that people don't always think about as healthy, like getting outside, getting sunlight, these are things that like make me feel good. And so I feel like those are the things that I focus on when it comes to healthy a little bit more than like the basic cornerstone stuff of, you
00:27:28
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exercising and eating good. And and but that for me is mindfulness is like, yeah, because I was the same way with exercise. Exercising for me was to get faster because I needed to be out on the lacrosse field or whatever, or to be, and then, you know, in my twenties to be skinny or I, to offset the calorie. It was never, I never took a minute to think about how it made me feel. And that, yeah that's easier said than done, but that's, you are wondering what mind, like, that's how I would define mindfulness is how does it,
00:27:57
Speaker
really thinking about how does it make you feel when you eat or do or whatever. Yeah. And i always think about I always think about the difference between like pleasure and gratification. This is something I'm always talking about and thinking. like Pleasure, those are like those quick things that you can get. They make you feel good like in the moment while you're doing them.
00:28:13
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um But then typically, the moment is sort of gone, where these sort of mindfulness things tend to be more gratification. They might be a slower burn, and they take longer to get there. But you sort of get that feeling of of goodness for a longer period of time. What about you, Megan? Yeah.
00:28:29
Speaker
So healthy for me, and I'm not saying I do all these things, but I try because I know I feel better, is getting enough sleep at night, eight to nine hours, and eating right.
00:28:42
Speaker
Charlotte just almost spit coffee. Eight to nine hours, girl. I I mean, I am like, I try to go to bed at certain times. eat certain foods, the meals, not so much coffee and the alcohol intake. Now that I've gotten older, I've that whole, that's for a whole nother day too.
00:29:01
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us And also working out that's now that my kids are all older and I have time for that. That is like my time for the day to motivate me. That's like my, like, if I'm having a I had a bad day the next day, I'm like, I got to work out.
00:29:19
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It's just for me that it motivates me and it just makes me feel good. Like you said, Kelly, it's, I don't know if it's a quick fix or if it's a modification for the long run, but working out and also.
00:29:31
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Health-wise too, is being around certain people. being like I have certain people that I like to be around with because they make me feel good. Positivity, like for me, that's healthy too because I feel good. They make me feel good. It's like a group. We just have good vibes together. So now that I've gotten older too, I've realized there's certain friends that I like to be with and don't like to be with because maybe they put me down or whatever

Phone Usage & Well-being Strategies

00:29:57
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it may be. But that's sort of my health is...
00:30:00
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eating, sleeping, working out, the positive people I'm around. And one more thing too, I don't know if this is health, but like these phones, sometimes I try to set a limit on how much time, because I feel like that is like, that's a health too, is being on my phone too much. And I feel like, so I try to limit that. It doesn't really happen. I try, i try, I try to plug it in and, you know, go spend 30 minutes with Nico or whatever it may be. So my friend got a lockbox.
00:30:30
Speaker
for their phone. I used a lock. When I first cut back my screen time, I used a lockbox. It was wildly successful. It's like a timer, right? You're like locked out for an hour or something. Yeah. I mean, that's a good thing. Sometimes you have to put some kind of control over yeah a habit that you have. and And I guess my point of the whole entire health conversation is just And healthy doesn't have to be one definition. It should just be what you want it to be and what makes you feel good. And I really like how you kind of all said the same thing, but you didn't say the same thing because you can tell what's important to you. And, you know, I already spoke about myself, but you all kind of said something that was funny, I think, about exercise. And when we were young, it really was amazing.
00:31:14
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I mean, I wasn't working out because I liked the endorphins. I was like, I'm going on spring break. I need to look really good in a bathing suit. That's what's happening here. And now I exercise for a release. I exercise to get away. i like what it does to my mind. So speaking of mental things, let's move to our last segment of our show, which is Peaks and Pits.

Personal Highs & Lows

00:31:37
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And I say mental because sometimes those pits just, you know really do a number on your mind. Does anybody have anything good they want to share this week? I have a peek.
00:31:49
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Finally. i am trying to dust off like some chapters of my business that I haven't had to lean on, but now everything is so different in the online world. And so I have met with someone and I'm finally getting back into my newsletter. Do you guys have newsletters for your businesses?
00:32:07
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I've had it in the past, but it was just like something I did and I didn't feel like I was getting the benefit of it. And and met with someone ah couple of times to like basically have her tell me the same thing two times in a row so that it would make itself into my brain.
00:32:20
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And so I've been working on that and I'm hopeful that it'll be a fun way to connect with people, but I feel like that's a nice way to start the year. So that's my peak. I have a peak. I guess this isn't super timely because we do film these like a couple weeks out, but I just went over.
00:32:37
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and like to make little goals at the beginning of the month, you know, just to sort of stay on track. I make some business ones and some personal ones. These aren't like crazy over the top things. It's just i'm ah I'm a to-do list kind of person. So I like like having little check marks of things I want to try to accomplish.
00:32:51
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And so i stuck to most of the ones that I wanted to get done. So it felt good to kind of like check those off at the end of the month, be like, oh, I did these things that I wanted to do. And that felt good. I love that.
00:33:02
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I don't have a peak. I have a pit. And it's not that bad of a pit. When we got a bunch of snow a couple weeks ago, we noticed the next morning there were lots of tracks in the front yard. And i was, I've just been dedicated to seeing the animals that are crossing through our front yard since my neighbor told me she saw them and it's five deer. And I have this thing about deer.
00:33:25
Speaker
love them. I just think they're beautiful. And I have never seen one in my yard. My neighbor will send me pictures of them in my yard. The people across the street will send me pictures of them in my yard, but I've never caught them. So the other morning, my neighbor texts me and she's like, did you see them? Did you see them?
00:33:42
Speaker
It's five o'clock in the morning and I'm sitting in my kitchen and I'm like, where? And she goes, they just crossed by your window. So I'm like, so the next morning I wake up, I get up at four my four o'clock wake up call and I turn my chair. So now I'm facing out the window and I look, I'm looking directly out in my yard.
00:33:58
Speaker
I stared out that window for two hours. You know where the deer went? They crossed on the side of my house and went into somebody else's yard because my neighbor saw them. They wouldn't come see me.
00:34:10
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Today, the deer came again and I didn't see them because I was in the bathroom. So that's my pit. I'm never going to see this family. My ring camera won't pick it up and I'm really depressed. So you still haven't seen the deer at all?
00:34:23
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No, I've seen them like at the top of the hill, but not in my yard. That's okay. the Do you hear the dog barking? She's probably barking because of deer in our yard. They're there all the time. How about you, Megan? Okay. I have a peek and it's been all over social media. I think we even talked about it once a little bit and then we stopped.
00:34:41
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Skinny jeans are back. Okay. okay And I saved all mine from like high school and college and I dusted them off and I'm really excited because I've been seeing headlines everywhere that they're back.
00:34:53
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And I'm excited because I never got rid of mine and now I can just dust them off and bring them back out. So I'm the asshole that's like, I will never wear skinny jeans again. No, thank you. Just like I did with bootcut jeans and give me a year and I'll be buying them all again.
00:35:10
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i can't keep on top of jeans. It's like every time I'm not pregnant again, it's a different gene and I just can't, I can't keep up. It changes. I mean, it changes every year, but I was like, oh, wow. i Like so-and-so said they're back. and Alex Earl. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I saw I was like, oh, okay. Well, if she said, then I'll wear them again. Well, Megan, I love that for you. And I feel like that's a really nice way to end the podcast.
00:35:35
Speaker
Right. I'm so proud of this moment for you, Megan. Well, thank you guys for listening. i hope you come back soon. Don't forget to leave us a review if you listen to our show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or watch you on YouTube.
00:35:52
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Have a great day. Bye. That is where I saw it
00:36:04
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Thanks.