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Savannah Read ’Spare’ by Prince Harry So That You Don’t Have To
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Savannah reviews Prince Harry's book 'Spare', We feel bad, but we also don't care.
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Introduction & Podcast Overview
00:00:04
Speaker
What's up, queens?
00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to the Female Dating Strategy Podcast, the meanest female-only podcast on the internet.
00:00:11
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I'm Ro.
00:00:12
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And I'm Savannah.
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And this week, by semi-popular demand, we will be reviewing Prince Harry's book,
Initial Impressions of 'Spare'
00:00:20
Speaker
Spare.
00:00:20
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Because it's been like, it's been actually six months.
00:00:23
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Which I haven't read, so this is more like a recap for me.
00:00:27
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so let's not recap it's more like hey let me know all the highlights because i wasn't gonna bother because quite frankly with harry it's like i don't care right we don't have a monarchy the only reason i sort of care about this entire fiasco is because i did not like the way they treated megan markle i feel bad for harry because he comes from a toxic family but like i don't think anybody over here would care about this book if it wasn't for megan markle
00:00:52
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That's fair, 100%.
00:00:53
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And I was, because I've read the book, I managed to get myself a bootleg
Critique of 'Spare' and Harry's Insights
00:00:57
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copy because I'm not, I mean, as much as Harry says the right things, but he's still from that family and I'm not lining their pockets even more.
00:01:06
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And I was quite underwhelmed.
00:01:08
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I think the first thing that stood out to me was that
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it was really, really badly written.
00:01:12
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And I know Prince Harry didn't write it himself.
00:01:15
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He got a ghostwriter like most celebrities do.
00:01:19
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But the way it was written, it just wasn't, I mean, you wouldn't think it was of a publishing standard.
00:01:24
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Do you know what I mean?
00:01:25
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And I just feel like this whole, clearly the publishers and they were right on this one.
00:01:30
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It was just a cash grab for them.
00:01:33
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You think so?
00:01:33
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I mean, they act like they're poor and they need a lot of attention.
00:01:37
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I don't think I mean, I know that the royal families cut them off to a certain extent, but Meghan Markle had plenty of money from suits.
00:01:44
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And I don't know.
00:01:46
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I imagine Harry had an inheritance.
00:01:48
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So whatever.
00:01:50
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I mean, are they just, they're just, they're just like continuously trying to create media, I think, to build a media brand.
00:01:56
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And to be fair, it is popular.
00:01:58
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I mean, wasn't it on the bestsellers list when it came out?
00:02:01
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Yeah, it sold really well.
00:02:02
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So, I mean, despite what we say, people are interested.
00:02:05
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Yeah, I mean, but I mean, obviously controversy sells, but when I say it was like a cash grab, I'm not.
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me just talking about, you know, for Meghan and Harry, I also mean for the publishers as well.
00:02:15
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Like they knew what they were doing.
00:02:17
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They promoted it very well with the, I mean, the documentary on Netflix was the gateway to the promotion.
00:02:23
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And then Prince Harry's interviews where he wasn't really revealing a lot to be fair.
00:02:29
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Like this is where I found the book was underwhelmed because I thought he could have really, really like spilled some more tea, but I understand why he did it.
00:02:36
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And he probably didn't for various reasons, but yeah.
00:02:39
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Yeah, that was just one of the
Harry's Achievements and Purpose
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things that jumped out to me.
00:02:41
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And even like the way they formatted like text conversations.
00:02:45
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So Harry shares quite personal, clearly, I guess, text messages from him between himself and the main characters, such as William and Kate and his dad.
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And even the way it's formatted in the book, it's really hard to read.
00:02:59
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Like they don't use speech marks when they're
00:03:02
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using you know when they're talking about text messages it's just little stuff like that do you know what i mean it just it just made it quite difficult to to follow sometimes so he just like didn't get a good editor on his book and it's just a stream of consciousness of all the things that he feels he suffered in his life yes
00:03:17
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Sounds boring.
00:03:18
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Yes.
00:03:19
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Sounds boring.
00:03:21
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But the worst part is, is like, he got a professional writer to write the book.
00:03:24
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He didn't write it himself.
00:03:25
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So it's like, why is it so bad?
00:03:28
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So yeah, that was one thing.
00:03:29
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Because there's nothing compelling about him other than his like royal... True.
00:03:33
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True.
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status, right?
00:03:35
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Like he hasn't really done anything worthy of people's attention.
00:03:39
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And in the influencer space, everyone's fighting for attention.
00:03:42
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And even a royal can't necessarily capture it just by virtue of his birthright, right?
00:03:47
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Like I feel like to me, when I look at him, like he's like the Paris Hilton of Britain's.
00:03:52
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He's like the Paris Hilton of the Brits, right?
00:03:53
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Like he just, he happened to be born fabulously wealthy to a famous family and he's got connections to other famous people, but I don't know why I care about him.
00:04:02
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He's not even hot anymore.
00:04:04
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He used to be kind of cute when he was younger and he just...
00:04:07
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I don't know I mean it looks better than the rest of the family but that's not saying much and that's not difficult I mean the bargain well yeah exactly exactly but no I I think and like Harry's aware of that as well like he talks about that quite by the way it's a massive spoiler alert so if you want to be surprised by the book which I don't think you will be you might want to skip this episode sorry I should have put that at the top
00:04:29
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But Harry talks a lot about what Roe just touched on, about being the royal that had no direction, because he was born as the spare to William.
00:04:38
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And when it became apparent that William was likely to get married and have his own children, then Harry's role as the spare became very redundant.
00:04:47
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So he talks about when he was about 18, 19, he literally sat down with his dad to talk about, okay, what can I do?
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He wanted to be a fucking ski instructor.
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And obviously Charles was like, absolutely not.
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So that was why he sort of ended up in the army where that gave him something to do for a couple of years.
00:05:06
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And then he went to Africa and then he started the Invictus Games.
00:05:10
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So throughout the book, you see sort of what Roe is saying and that he doesn't really have any direction.
00:05:16
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He's often aware that his intellect isn't great.
00:05:21
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So the press...
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would often refer to him as the stupid one.
00:05:24
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I think even in his family, he was sort of known as the dumbest.
00:05:28
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So he knows he's dumb.
00:05:30
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Yeah, Harry knows he ain't shit, basically.
00:05:32
Speaker
He knows he's dumb?
00:05:33
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:05:34
Speaker
See,
Family Dynamics and Struggles
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now I feel a little bit bad.
00:05:37
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There's something almost sad about a person who's self-aware about being stupid because you want to be like, no, you're not dumb.
00:05:45
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I mean, when I say dumb, though, I mean he knows he's not... Just mentally different.
00:05:51
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But when I say dumb, I think he knows that he's not, he doesn't have a natural talent for anything.
00:05:56
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I guess, you know, when you're a royal family member, you don't have to have a natural talent for everything because by virtue of your birthright, you will, you know, that will open doors for you.
00:06:06
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So he went to places like Eton College where it's highly selective usually, but I mean, it's basically Rich Kids Central.
00:06:14
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But generally speaking, if you don't come from that background, it's a highly selective school to get into.
00:06:19
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And he just got in.
00:06:21
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did very very average in his in high school um to the point where there was a story that he got one of his art teachers to do his exam for him and he was really stung by that because it was like no i did the work and all that jazz so yeah i think harry is well aware of his position within the family and also within the wider world as well is that he doesn't have a talent so to speak
00:06:45
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Do you know what I mean?
00:06:46
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Like, he's not... He's just around.
00:06:48
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He's like the ultimate Nepo baby.
00:06:50
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There's no other... Is there a bigger Nepo baby than a royal family member?
00:06:55
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I think that's pinnacle Nepo baby.
00:06:57
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But he's not even a Nepo baby because... He's not even really a Nepo baby, though, because when... I mean, he's not really obtained... Well, I guess he's obtained something, but in terms of like... Yeah, what does he do?
00:07:10
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But he's not...
00:07:12
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He's kind of in Hollywood right now, or not even really Hollywood.
00:07:16
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Maybe Hollywood adjacent because he's with Tyler Perry, who actually I think is based out of Atlanta.
00:07:24
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But I mean, he's not exactly like ingratiated himself to any industries over here in the States.
00:07:29
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Yeah, he's still not doing a lot, really.
00:07:31
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Like, yes.
00:07:33
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Exactly.
00:07:33
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He's just some guy.
00:07:35
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So it's just, so yeah, he seems very, very aware of that.
00:07:38
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So, and this is almost like self-aware wolves.
00:07:41
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Like guys know when they ain't shit as well.
00:07:43
Speaker
Like, you know, lots of women, you know, need to recognize that guys understand that they often like beneath your level.
00:07:51
Speaker
This was sort of why, like, you know, in the documentary, Roy, when his friends were talking about, wow, how did you get Megan?
Controversies and Public Perception
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Speaker
I understand.
00:07:58
Speaker
I understand why they were asking that.
00:08:00
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I guess he's a distance.
00:08:02
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Even his friends though.
00:08:07
Speaker
This guy is a bit like, uh-uh.
00:08:09
Speaker
I mean, it's a bit of a non-starter.
00:08:14
Speaker
He's our boy and all, but he's stupid as hell.
00:08:16
Speaker
Oh my god.
00:08:18
Speaker
Okay, yeah, okay, I agree with the stupid as I'll come on to that, actually, I'm not even going to defend that.
00:08:22
Speaker
So the book starts, obviously, with the death of his mother and how Charles comes and tells him and it seems like Charles didn't do it in the most emotionally sensitive way, like he wasn't given a hug.
00:08:35
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and or anything like that and he was very much expected to just carry on with it and you can see the pinnacle of that is at diana's funeral when he william prince philip and prince charles are walking behind diana's coffin a experience that both william and harry have said really really traumatized the pair of them so and that's a common theme and i just get the impression i sort of look at his relationship with megan in quite a
00:09:03
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different way now because whilst I do believe their love is genuine but I also feel like Harry was searching for his mum and he's found another Diana so to speak in the form of Meghan I definitely feel like a big part of his attraction to Meghan was the similarities between her and Diana or perceived similarities yeah
00:09:25
Speaker
It's interesting too, because I feel like I picked up on that in some of the narratives that they were running when they were doing interviews about how being under the paparazzi scrutiny was affecting her.
00:09:37
Speaker
And then Harry suddenly like getting to be the hero in the situation.
00:09:41
Speaker
And I was like, oh, this is like really emotional.
00:09:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:09:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:09:45
Speaker
It's like he gets to be he gets to kind of redo the past and be the hero that he felt that someone should have stepped in for his mom.
00:09:52
Speaker
Yes, yeah, and he makes lots of lots of references to his mum throughout.
00:09:57
Speaker
Some I think are borderline inappropriate.
00:10:00
Speaker
Like, there was one section where he was talking about how he got like frostbite on his dick, and he was then spoke about in the next sentence, like, he used like this cream that smelled like his mum's Elizabeth Arden cream.
00:10:15
Speaker
Gross.
00:10:16
Speaker
And I'm like, what the fuck?
00:10:18
Speaker
Holy Oedipus complex, Batman.
00:10:20
Speaker
I might have scrambled that a bit, but I remember thinking like, if I had like a UTI, I wouldn't think of like a cream that my dad used at some point when I was recounting the tale of treating said UTI.
00:10:36
Speaker
It's very strange, isn't it?
00:10:37
Speaker
Very, very bizarre.
00:10:39
Speaker
And I just... He's emotionally stuck there.
00:10:41
Speaker
I feel bad.
00:10:41
Speaker
You know, it sounds like a very traumatized kid who's emotionally stuck at an age where he was happy.
00:10:47
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:10:48
Speaker
Yeah, when he had... I definitely get that sense.
00:10:52
Speaker
It's almost like his life ended on the 31st of August 1997, the day Diana passed away.
00:10:59
Speaker
I genuinely get... And also, it does make sense, though, because I don't think he was ever really allowed to grieve and to properly mourn her, because especially the public...
00:11:11
Speaker
Especially the way Diana passed away and the way that she was mourned.
00:11:15
Speaker
It was deeply traumatic to the point where he even goes back to the tunnel where she died and asks his driver to take him through it.
00:11:23
Speaker
And even his bodyguards were like, I don't really want to have to do this, but he ordered them to do it like the brat he is.
00:11:31
Speaker
And they did it anyway.
00:11:32
Speaker
And it didn't make him feel better.
00:11:34
Speaker
Who would have thought that?
00:11:36
Speaker
But yeah, it's just little stuff like that.
00:11:37
Speaker
I think he's still deeply, deeply affected by his mum.
00:11:40
Speaker
It is really, really sad because losing a parent at such young age in such a public way would be deeply traumatic for anyone, I think.
00:11:49
Speaker
Especially seeing as Diana used to say that she always made a conscious effort to treat Harry...
00:11:55
Speaker
not better than William, but to treat him like he was important because she understood that, you know, William is going to be one day the star of the show and Harry's going to fade into the background.
00:12:07
Speaker
And that always happens with the spares in any royal family.
00:12:11
Speaker
So with Queen Elizabeth, you had Princess Margaret who sort of almost like ran off the, like she basically went off the rails a bit, didn't really have much direction, was just known for having affairs and, you know,
00:12:24
Speaker
doing drugs and stuff like that.
00:12:26
Speaker
You sort of see parallels between Princess Margaret and Prince Harry.
00:12:30
Speaker
Once their, I guess, their use as despair is expired, they don't really have anything else to do.
00:12:37
Speaker
So then you get onto Harry's wild child, in quotation marks, phase where he talks, he admits to using drugs.
00:12:46
Speaker
talks about losing his virginity in a field.
00:12:49
Speaker
I just thought it was just the way that was written about, not to sound like a prude, but it was quite tacky how he wrote about it, to be honest.
00:12:57
Speaker
She was like, she rode me like a stallion.
00:12:59
Speaker
And I'm like, oh.
00:13:00
Speaker
Oh my God, gross.
00:13:03
Speaker
Rolls eyes.
00:13:05
Speaker
Rolls eyes to the back of my head all the way through my throat.
00:13:08
Speaker
Do you know, it's like, you know, it's like, why is it always these basic looking dudes who have talked the most about their sex lives?
00:13:15
Speaker
Why can't it be somebody like... Right, Roadme like a stallion.
00:13:19
Speaker
He doesn't look like he has a stallion dick.
00:13:21
Speaker
Sorry to, you know, just like, project.
00:13:25
Speaker
There's just nothing about him that makes me feel like, oh, yeah, he has big dick energy.
00:13:28
Speaker
I could be wrong.
00:13:29
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:13:30
Speaker
You never know.
00:13:31
Speaker
But he looks like a stallion.
00:13:36
Speaker
Someone thinks much of himself.
00:13:40
Speaker
Every guy fancies himself a stallion.
00:13:43
Speaker
Mike, let's be clear.
00:13:44
Speaker
Some of you guys are pygmy donkeys.
00:13:50
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:13:50
Speaker
Yeah, I agree.
00:13:53
Speaker
I just don't look at Prince Harry and think, yeah, I want me some of that.
00:13:57
Speaker
So it was... Some of you are Eeyores.
00:13:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:14:03
Speaker
So yeah, that was a bit weird.
00:14:06
Speaker
And then he also... And this is where I think Harry is stupid, right?
00:14:10
Speaker
This is where it gets into stupidity phase.
00:14:12
Speaker
So you know that incident where he was caught wearing the Nazi uniform?
00:14:16
Speaker
In the book, he basically pins that on William and Kate, basically saying they told him it was a good idea.
00:14:24
Speaker
And I'm sitting there thinking, but you are 20 years old.
00:14:26
Speaker
Like, on what planet do you think that wearing a Nazi uniform would ever be socially acceptable?
00:14:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:14:33
Speaker
number one.
00:14:34
Speaker
And then he also, I'm not sure if you saw this, but he was in a hotel room, I think it was in New York, with these strangers, and they played like strip poker or something.
00:14:45
Speaker
And then the pictures got out, and he was surprised and upset at that.
00:14:49
Speaker
And I'm just like,
Family Tensions and Cultural Differences
00:14:50
Speaker
mate, like, you're Prince of England.
00:14:52
Speaker
Like, if you're doing something dumb, like getting naked,
00:14:55
Speaker
with a room full of people you don't know, it's not right, but surely you would expect that that is going to get out to the press because that's tabloid fodder.
00:15:07
Speaker
And he just seemed really surprised, almost like, why me?
00:15:11
Speaker
How could this happen?
00:15:13
Speaker
I'm shocked.
00:15:14
Speaker
I'm like, really, dude?
00:15:15
Speaker
Really?
00:15:17
Speaker
He still doesn't understand that he's famous.
00:15:18
Speaker
He's confused by it.
00:15:22
Speaker
Harry, you're a prince of England.
00:15:25
Speaker
People pay attention to what you do.
00:15:28
Speaker
And this was after a decade of the press just giving him hell.
00:15:32
Speaker
Do you know what I mean?
00:15:34
Speaker
So it was just a bit like, set eight here.
00:15:37
Speaker
And then with the William and Kate, the Nazi uniform, I'm like, okay, yeah, even if they told you to do that, let's assume that that's true.
00:15:45
Speaker
But surely you should know better at 20 years old that you don't wear Nazi uniforms.
00:15:50
Speaker
Even school kids know not to do the Nazi salute.
00:15:52
Speaker
11-year-olds know not to do it.
00:15:54
Speaker
I can remember when I was younger, we would watch a lot of public access television because we didn't have cable.
00:16:02
Speaker
And I watched a lot of like these old black and white films and like the Three Stooges used to do a lot of Nazi bits.
00:16:08
Speaker
And so I didn't know anything about World War II.
00:16:11
Speaker
And I was just trying to be fine.
00:16:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:16:14
Speaker
I thought it was funny.
00:16:15
Speaker
I didn't know anything about Wolver 2.
00:16:17
Speaker
So like I was just imitating like these old movies I would see on TV.
00:16:20
Speaker
And then I just did like the Heil Hitler song.
00:16:22
Speaker
I was like, salute one time.
00:16:24
Speaker
I mean, I must have been really young, like maybe six or seven.
00:16:27
Speaker
And I saw it on TV.
00:16:28
Speaker
My mom looked at me like she wanted to snatch my throat through my body.
00:16:31
Speaker
She was like, don't you ever do that again.
00:16:36
Speaker
I'm like, what is that?
00:16:37
Speaker
I'm like, what?
00:16:38
Speaker
What did I do?
00:16:38
Speaker
I saw it on TV.
00:16:39
Speaker
It was really funny.
00:16:40
Speaker
And she was like, Hitler is a horrible man.
00:16:45
Speaker
but again single digit age not a grown-ass man like harry continue the juiciest most fucked up things is it just me or harry's eyes too close together to be handsome anyways just i just wanted i don't know why i said that i just felt like it so i'm gonna share some of the juiciest tea from the book
00:17:07
Speaker
The first one, and perhaps one of the most fucked up claims that Harry makes, is that Charles joked about not being his real dad.
00:17:18
Speaker
Obviously, there's this ongoing controversy, speculation that Harry's real dad is Major James Hewitt because they look similar.
00:17:28
Speaker
Princess Diana swore up and down that they started their affair, so she...
00:17:33
Speaker
So Diana had an affair with James Hewitt for five years and she's adamant that it started after Harry was born.
00:17:40
Speaker
But Harry tells a story of when Charles basically joked that he might not be his real dad.
00:17:48
Speaker
And obviously Harry was quite destroyed by that.
00:17:51
Speaker
I'm not even sure in what universe that sort of joke is appropriate.
00:17:57
Speaker
But yeah, I kind of felt bad for him, to be fair, because he was really hurt by that.
00:18:02
Speaker
So that was one.
00:18:03
Speaker
The second one was that Charles...
00:18:08
Speaker
was very... It seemed like he did the bait and switch with his sons about his relationship with Camilla.
00:18:14
Speaker
So they were happy for them.
00:18:17
Speaker
So William and Harry were happy for him to date Camilla, but they weren't happy for him to marry her, and they begged him not to marry Camilla.
00:18:27
Speaker
And obviously he did anyway.
00:18:29
Speaker
Why?
00:18:29
Speaker
And now she's the Queen of England.
00:18:31
Speaker
Why didn't they want Charles to marry Camilla?
00:18:33
Speaker
I guess because of the stuff...
00:18:36
Speaker
I mean, I guess if you look at the relationship dynamics, like Camilla and Charles had an affair whilst Charles was still married to their mum.
00:18:45
Speaker
I see.
00:18:46
Speaker
They didn't want the side chick to become the main chick.
00:18:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:18:49
Speaker
And it's going to pose all sorts of issues, I think.
00:18:53
Speaker
So this is going back to like technical royalty stuff.
00:18:57
Speaker
But if...
00:18:58
Speaker
Charles dies before Camilla, which statistically likely, she will technically become Queen Dowager, right?
00:19:07
Speaker
So that basically means like Dowager Queen is the widow of a deceased monarch, Dowager King or Dowager Queen.
00:19:15
Speaker
No, no, Dalger Queen.
00:19:16
Speaker
There's not usually a Dalger King.
00:19:18
Speaker
And that begs the question of what is William going to do with that?
00:19:22
Speaker
Because William could technically strip her of that title when he becomes king.
00:19:28
Speaker
And it just seems like the pair of them, like William and Harry, aren't too keen on Camilla generally.
00:19:34
Speaker
So that's going to be something.
00:19:36
Speaker
But of course, like men who do this sorts of things that Charles has done, they don't really seem to care about that.
00:19:43
Speaker
They just care about what they want.
00:19:44
Speaker
So I just hope for Camilla's sake, this might sound morbid, but I hope that she dies before Charles, basically.
00:19:51
Speaker
Wait, so, okay, so how does that work?
00:19:53
Speaker
So, she's the queen, but then also William can be the king at the same time.
00:19:59
Speaker
Yes.
00:19:59
Speaker
But, like, he outranks her, right?
00:20:01
Speaker
Yes.
00:20:01
Speaker
Okay.
00:20:02
Speaker
So, like, she's the dowager queen.
00:20:03
Speaker
Yes.
00:20:04
Speaker
But she's technically, like, the queen to the previous monarch.
00:20:08
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:08
Speaker
So she's still, like, second in command, I guess?
00:20:11
Speaker
Well, she's not even second.
00:20:12
Speaker
Like, would she be above Kate and...
00:20:15
Speaker
in this case?
00:20:16
Speaker
No.
00:20:17
Speaker
No, she wouldn't.
00:20:18
Speaker
She'd be below Kate.
00:20:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:19
Speaker
Because Kate is the wife of the current monarch.
00:20:22
Speaker
Yes.
00:20:22
Speaker
Yes.
00:20:23
Speaker
Okay.
00:20:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:24
Speaker
And also, technically, a queen dowager would be, like, the king or queen's biological parent.
00:20:30
Speaker
Obviously, Camilla's a stepparent.
00:20:32
Speaker
So there's that as well.
00:20:33
Speaker
So that's interesting.
00:20:34
Speaker
So once the monarch dies, their spouse doesn't become the highest ranking person.
00:20:39
Speaker
It's always their successor.
00:20:41
Speaker
No, they get demoted.
00:20:42
Speaker
Especially if you're female, you get demoted.
00:20:45
Speaker
I see.
00:20:46
Speaker
Oh yeah, that makes sense, because yeah, okay.
00:20:48
Speaker
No, like... Scroats and sexism.
00:20:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:52
Speaker
This is part of the reason why there was this, there's still this conspiracy theory that the royal family's bumped Diana off, because if Diana was still alive, you then have to consider, okay, where does that leave her?
00:21:03
Speaker
Because she would be the mother of the king.
00:21:05
Speaker
Right.
00:21:06
Speaker
That's going to fuck up the pole like thing, surely.
00:21:10
Speaker
So, so yeah, so there was that.
00:21:12
Speaker
So they were like begging her and, you know, Harry talks about how Camilla basically moved her dresses into his bedroom.
00:21:19
Speaker
Oh no.
00:21:20
Speaker
Oh man, disrespect.
00:21:24
Speaker
I mean, I sort of see it from Bravestite, it's like Clarence's house where it happened.
00:21:28
Speaker
So that was where Harry had his bedroom.
00:21:30
Speaker
It's a massive, it's not really a house, it's more like a mansion, stash palace, mini palace.
00:21:35
Speaker
So she could have probably used any other room.
00:21:38
Speaker
But it's also like, you have moved out as well.
00:21:40
Speaker
So yeah, there was that.
00:21:45
Speaker
The next one was the explosive argument between William and Kate and Harry and Meghan because Kate got offended that Meghan made a comment about her having baby brain.
00:21:58
Speaker
So I think the story was that Kate...
00:22:01
Speaker
was like forgot something and then like Megan said offhandedly oh haha must be the hormones baby brain and Kate got really offended and they basically William and Kate basically confronted Megan about it and said we don't do this in Britain like that's not appropriate to the point and like William was like waving his hand like basically wagging a finger in quite rudely in Megan's face to the point where Megan was like take your hand out of my face good for you Megan good for you
00:22:29
Speaker
Yeah, she is.
00:22:30
Speaker
She's not with the shits and I'm all the way here for it.
00:22:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:33
Speaker
Fuck the monarchy.
00:22:35
Speaker
We don't do that in America.
00:22:37
Speaker
I feel like every time we talk about this family, I'm like, yeah, I'm glad we don't have to deal with them.
00:22:41
Speaker
We don't have any like permanently installed people in our government.
00:22:45
Speaker
Technically, quote, quote, quote, quote.
00:22:48
Speaker
I mean, we do have some people that have probably been in office way too long, you know, decades upon decades.
00:22:53
Speaker
But like, in theory, we could get rid of them.
00:22:57
Speaker
Yeah, basically.
00:22:58
Speaker
I mean, even the Kennedys, like, they're not really a thing, political thing anymore, because I think the last one who was... I want to say his name was Patrick in the House of Reps.
00:23:08
Speaker
I think he got voted out.
00:23:10
Speaker
So, yeah, he's not a thing anymore.
00:23:13
Speaker
So, yeah.
00:23:14
Speaker
But it was just, like, the way...
00:23:18
Speaker
It just seemed like, I don't know, from the book, and I'm not really surprised by this, it just seems like William is very used to getting his own way and he's quite petty as well.
00:23:27
Speaker
So, you know, Harry also recounts how, you know, when he got married to Meghan?
00:23:31
Speaker
No!
00:23:31
Speaker
You mean he's not the picture of patience and respect?
00:23:35
Speaker
for others so when like harry got married to megan this is ridiculous right but you know he had his beard right he had to get the queen's permission to keep his beard for the wedding because he was in uniform really should have been clean shaven but he had to make a special request to granny to keep his beard because yeah fuck the monarchy
00:23:55
Speaker
And so, you know, the Queen... I just can't even imagine, like, having to ask people to, you know... To ask your grandmother, can I keep my beard?
00:24:03
Speaker
Can I keep my beard for my wedding?
00:24:05
Speaker
It's just like you asking, can I wax my legs for my wedding to your grandmother?
00:24:09
Speaker
But then obviously, the Queen says yes, because he had his beard, and William was outraged.
00:24:13
Speaker
So he was like, you must shave.
00:24:15
Speaker
I'm like... And Harry was like, no.
00:24:17
Speaker
But William was like, well, no, because I had to shave.
00:24:19
Speaker
I'm like...
00:24:20
Speaker
These are stupid problems for stupid people.
00:24:22
Speaker
I'm sorry, but like the more I hear about... Yeah, I see why people are reading this book with sort of like a, yeah, okay, Harry.
00:24:28
Speaker
Because it's like, it's... Okay, it sucks, right?
00:24:32
Speaker
And his family's toxic, but... It's
Meghan Markle's Influence and Criticism
00:24:35
Speaker
petty.
00:24:35
Speaker
Yeah, everything here is like not...
00:24:38
Speaker
it's pay yeah it's just not mission critical of to experience life it's pay it's really really pay like and i think the the book got interesting when he actually met megan that's what's made the royal family interesting of i mean let's be real like megan you know for good or evil she's bought some something different to the royal family like even her biggest attractors in the british media they talk about her way more than the royals they actually do like so the book
00:25:09
Speaker
ends with them talking about their courtship, talking about how he knew she was the one, how she moved over to the UK pretty quickly, basically rehashing the documentary in book form.
00:25:24
Speaker
He also talks about how she visited Diana's grave again and was like asking, was like kneeling on Diana's gravestone asking for guidance, which again, I just thought
00:25:37
Speaker
She's so new.
00:25:37
Speaker
I mean, OK, so like her her mom is like a yoga teacher and like real new agey.
00:25:42
Speaker
So that just sounds like an extension of that.
00:25:44
Speaker
OK, so the thing with Megan is like what people criticize her for is like that allegedly she's fake or she's like kind of superficial.
00:25:51
Speaker
But I really think that's like who she is.
00:25:53
Speaker
I don't even think it's like her being manipulative the way the media tries to like over portray it.
00:25:58
Speaker
No, no, not at all.
00:25:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:00
Speaker
I think she, like, that's her genuinely trying to, like, emotionally connect.
00:26:04
Speaker
But people think it's glib because they think it's performative.
00:26:07
Speaker
But think about that, like, before she was in the royal family, nobody had a bad word to say about her.
00:26:13
Speaker
Like, surely if she was this super fake, pretentious bitch, like, it would be out there somewhere.
00:26:19
Speaker
But no one had a bad word to say about her.
00:26:21
Speaker
And, you know, people... Yeah, I mean, the only thing is, like...
00:26:25
Speaker
I guess she went to private school and she went to Northwestern and like she's lived kind of like a charmed privileged girl's life.
00:26:33
Speaker
But I think people expect her to have a little bit more depth than she actually has.
00:26:37
Speaker
So then when she doesn't, people are kind of like, oh, she must be a bitch.
00:26:41
Speaker
But I'm like, I don't think so.
00:26:42
Speaker
I think she's just sort of a bit more surface level than people want her to be for some reason.
00:26:47
Speaker
I don't know.
00:26:49
Speaker
Like she hasn't really experienced like like massive hardship.
00:26:52
Speaker
And I guess her parents divorce is really difficult for her.
00:26:54
Speaker
But, you know, she more or less like her.
00:26:56
Speaker
I don't say they're wealthy, but like she was she went to nice schools like she's well groomed.
00:27:01
Speaker
She was in like upper crust like Hollywood circles before all of all of the royalty stuff.
00:27:07
Speaker
So she's just, you know, she's just like from a certain class.
00:27:11
Speaker
And so I feel like some of this to me seems like on the American side anyways, like the American.
00:27:16
Speaker
So there's hate.
00:27:17
Speaker
There's like hardcore Meghan Markle haters on the American side.
00:27:19
Speaker
And they're always like, oh, she's fake.
00:27:21
Speaker
And some of that just seems like like class warfare to a certain extent.
00:27:24
Speaker
And or like sexism, like just like people feel like she doesn't respect the.
00:27:29
Speaker
Here's what actually pisses me off.
00:27:31
Speaker
It's like suddenly the Republicans are like pro monarchy just because they want to hate on a Megan.
00:27:36
Speaker
And this is where you start to see that like patriarchy and sexism doesn't make sense.
00:27:40
Speaker
I'm like, how are you as an American pro monarchy, like period.
00:27:43
Speaker
And you're supposed to be like the most American loving party and, you know, superior to Democrats who quote unquote hate America.
00:27:49
Speaker
But to me, I'm like,
00:27:51
Speaker
I'm not saying you have to love everything Meghan does, but the idea that she should bow to the monarch, she should completely kowtow to the monarch of another country is fully insane to me as an American because any other time, if any of our other ambassadors or anybody did that, they would be calling for their head.
00:28:07
Speaker
True.
00:28:07
Speaker
It's just weird.
00:28:09
Speaker
I just feel like they expect her as a woman to be cowed by the British monarchy, but they would not expect that from a man for sure.
00:28:17
Speaker
In fact, they would see it as weak.
00:28:19
Speaker
But they wouldn't even expect it from themselves.
00:28:22
Speaker
I know one of them is like Megyn Kelly.
00:28:24
Speaker
And I'm just like, what do you actually know about the royal family?
00:28:27
Speaker
Probably not a lot to be talking about just like the entire situation.
00:28:33
Speaker
And again, you know, yeah, that makes sense.
00:28:36
Speaker
You know, what you've just said, if you're a staunch Republican, believe in the class of children and all that shit, then why are you pro-monarchy?
00:28:43
Speaker
Like, why are you taking the side of the royal family in this?
00:28:46
Speaker
Mental situation.
00:28:46
Speaker
They just want to see a woman humbled, especially a woman of color.
00:28:51
Speaker
Colorish woman.
00:28:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:54
Speaker
And I think especially because... I know it's controversial because she's kind of white passing, so people who look at her may not necessarily know that she's biracial.
00:29:01
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, some of that's that.
00:29:03
Speaker
But also, Meghan has a lot going for her as well.
00:29:06
Speaker
Like, aside from being a woman of colour, she's very attractive to the point where, like, one time the Daily Mail even wrote an article basically complaining that she looked too attractive next to Kate.
00:29:18
Speaker
You know, she's attractive, she's articulate, she's accomplished...
00:29:21
Speaker
Because you know what?
00:29:22
Speaker
OK, and I don't want to like I don't want to like do body shaming or body comparison, but Kate always looks really skinny to the point of being starved.
00:29:30
Speaker
Whereas Megan, for the most part, like she's thin, but she looks fit, which is totally different.
00:29:35
Speaker
Like sometimes the way that Kate looks, it looks like she's like she's she looks like she has an eating disorder to me.
00:29:40
Speaker
And it's actually worrisome.
00:29:41
Speaker
Kate is really, really small.
00:29:43
Speaker
Like really, really small.
00:29:45
Speaker
Really thin.
00:29:46
Speaker
And it doesn't look healthy.
00:29:47
Speaker
And she's been that way ever since she's... Because I feel like she's not that she's like not unattractive and by any means.
00:29:52
Speaker
I think it's just the means by which she tries to stay skinny makes her look like, like, you know, it doesn't make her glow.
00:29:59
Speaker
It makes her look like she's starving herself to stay thin.
00:30:01
Speaker
Yeah, and it sort of ages her a bit as well because, and the thing is, she wasn't, I mean, she was always on the petite side, even before she got married, but it just seemed like after her wedding, she just disappeared.
00:30:13
Speaker
Like she's been razor thin ever since, like really.
00:30:17
Speaker
And even Megan is quite slim, but even when you see the two of them together, there is like a clear weight difference, if that makes sense.
00:30:24
Speaker
Like you see like Megan is already quite petite herself, but Kate is just really, really small.
00:30:30
Speaker
And to go back to my original point, I do think part of the vitriol towards Meghan Markle is that she is attractive, she's accomplished, she's articulate, she's clearly intelligent, and she's not really somebody that you can...
Perception of Royal Image
00:30:46
Speaker
There's really nothing to not like about her.
00:30:48
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:30:49
Speaker
People just want to hate to hate.
00:30:50
Speaker
Exactly.
00:30:51
Speaker
Exactly.
00:30:51
Speaker
And it just feels sexist.
00:30:53
Speaker
They just want to find a reason to say like, oh, she's not all that and she didn't deserve to marry William or she didn't deserve to marry Harry.
00:31:00
Speaker
But like everything about Harry is not particularly impressive other than his royal blood.
00:31:05
Speaker
He's way out of his league.
00:31:07
Speaker
They feel like her self-esteem is too high and every time I see people talk about her it's like they're just trying to knock her down a peg.
00:31:13
Speaker
For reasons that don't make sense to me.
00:31:16
Speaker
You like you think she's you know what I mean like they all feel like she should be knocked down a peg but it's like for what?
00:31:21
Speaker
For who?
00:31:21
Speaker
For why?
00:31:22
Speaker
Right?
00:31:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:24
Speaker
And as we've said before Harry even his friend even Harry his friends they know he's not that much of a catch.
00:31:30
Speaker
Like, okay, yeah, he's a prince of England, but that's literally it.
00:31:35
Speaker
So, yeah, there was that.
00:31:39
Speaker
And then, obviously, the explosive fight between William and Harry, where William punches Harry and he falls on the dog bowl, stunned by his brother.
00:31:51
Speaker
Willie did that to Harold.
00:31:53
Speaker
That's their nicknames for each other.
00:31:56
Speaker
Over Meghan, like a fight over Meghan as well.
00:31:59
Speaker
Oh, this is like when they were adults.
00:32:00
Speaker
Whoa.
00:32:00
Speaker
Yeah, this was like a couple years ago.
00:32:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:05
Speaker
William just sounds like a bully, right?
00:32:06
Speaker
I mean, I feel for him, right?
00:32:08
Speaker
He's just, his family sucks.
00:32:10
Speaker
Everything about this makes me feel, yeah, man, you got a shitty family.
00:32:14
Speaker
They don't treat you well.
00:32:16
Speaker
You're kind of stuck in there.
00:32:18
Speaker
They're stuck where they are.
00:32:19
Speaker
You're stuck where you are.
00:32:20
Speaker
But I don't know what to say because it's like a lot of us have terrible families.
00:32:25
Speaker
Fortunately, you're not special.
00:32:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:30
Speaker
This isn't like a story.
00:32:31
Speaker
This isn't like a child called it or something where the abuse is so compelling that people stop and they're like, Oh my God, like it's bad, but it's also not like, um, and the sea of problems it's hard.
00:32:43
Speaker
It's like, it's gets, it just gets drowned out.
00:32:44
Speaker
Right.
00:32:45
Speaker
I think the most compelling thing is like how he dealt with the loss of his mother.
00:32:48
Speaker
Cause I feel like that's a pretty unique type of pain.
00:32:51
Speaker
And then, uh, the way and the way in which his position affected, uh,
00:32:56
Speaker
everything surrounding his mother and his mother's death is pretty compelling but then all this stuff with his like family fights it's like as shitty as it is a lot of families fight yes exactly and this is and this is one of the things where you know when people talk about purple blood the royal family god's representative divine right of kings like they're so special yada yada yada
00:33:18
Speaker
Ultimately, this book drives home the point that they are just any other regular family who have dickheads, who have spats, who have unresolved trauma, who have people who don't speak to each other for years.
00:33:29
Speaker
They are just like any other regular family.
00:33:32
Speaker
And I think that what this book has probably done is that it's really, really driven that point home in that because the royal family spend a lot of time crafting their image to make out like they're perfect.
00:33:43
Speaker
Like, look at the way they portray William and Kate, like the perfect married couple.
00:33:47
Speaker
even though you can see the cracks.
00:33:49
Speaker
Because no married couple is perfect.
00:33:52
Speaker
It's not this idyllic, two parents and three kids sort of thing.
00:33:58
Speaker
Every family has its...
00:34:01
Speaker
I guess, idiosyncrasies.
00:34:02
Speaker
Every family has its issues.
00:34:05
Speaker
And I think this book, and this is something that the royal family really wouldn't want.
00:34:09
Speaker
They wouldn't want people to really, really get to see that they are just like any other family.
00:34:14
Speaker
Because once people realise they are any other family, it then becomes, okay, why do we need them then?
00:34:20
Speaker
If they're not these, you know...
00:34:22
Speaker
Yeah, if they're not special people with special blood.
00:34:26
Speaker
If they're not special people, then why do we need them?
00:34:30
Speaker
We're literally paying.
00:34:32
Speaker
I feel like just eyeballing them, you can see that they weren't divinely gifted with anything.
00:34:37
Speaker
Just eyeball tests.
00:34:39
Speaker
I don't feel like William passes the eyeball test for some kind of special genetic bloodline that's so much above the rest of his.
00:34:45
Speaker
I don't get it either, to be honest.
00:34:47
Speaker
And I really, really like the way, like, when they went... Maybe if he looked... Maybe if he was, like, particularly handsome... Well, those days are through.
00:34:54
Speaker
They're just not hot enough to pull that off.
00:34:56
Speaker
I'm trying to dance around it, but I'm like, if they were much hotter than the way that they are, like, maybe I'd be like, okay, yeah, like, you're six foot five, you've got, like, beautiful golden skin, you've got... If they looked like Diana's, like, nieces...
00:35:11
Speaker
If they look like Diana's nieces and nephew, then I might be like, OK, if you look up the Diana's nephew, Louis, if one of them looked like that, I'd be like, OK, yeah.
00:35:22
Speaker
We treat them like we treat our Kennedys, right?
00:35:24
Speaker
Like so the Kennedy, you know, the JFK Jr. was like rakishly handsome.
00:35:29
Speaker
And so we kind of teach.
00:35:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:31
Speaker
We have sort of a reverence for them because we have lived in a very superficial society.
00:35:34
Speaker
And I also feel like that's the same reason why Kate hasn't really resonated in the States either is because she doesn't really slay any of her looks like she's just very boring and understated.
00:35:42
Speaker
And so all of us, all of us collectively are yawning at the monarchy and their special, their special blessed blood or whatever.
00:35:53
Speaker
we're going to call it.
00:35:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:55
Speaker
Collective yawn.
00:35:56
Speaker
I'll never forget that.
00:35:58
Speaker
Was it the Celtics game where they were asking the coach and the players, oh, did you see the Prince and Princess of Wales?
00:36:03
Speaker
They could not give less of a shit.
00:36:05
Speaker
I actually felt sorry for William McKay.
00:36:07
Speaker
They could not give less of a shit.
00:36:09
Speaker
And it's like, this is the sort of apathy
00:36:12
Speaker
that I think will grow towards the royal family over time is that yeah they're just like any other people and you know this is why this book was just so it just incensed the the royalists because it's like yeah they're like any other family they're just like us
00:36:28
Speaker
Yeah, I just I mean, I feel like in the 24 hour media landscape, like celebrities are so much more accessible now.
00:36:37
Speaker
So it's not like a big deal to see them or hear from them.
00:36:41
Speaker
And the the era of keeping like a stiff upper lip and being sort of segregated from the common people just seems stuffy and obnoxious.
00:36:50
Speaker
I think it's just that the concept of celebrity has changed around the royal family as well.
00:36:55
Speaker
Yes, definitely.
00:36:55
Speaker
So there's no mistake anymore.
00:36:57
Speaker
There's no mystery.
00:36:58
Speaker
Yeah, definitely.
00:37:00
Speaker
And I think they are, like, William and Harry, they're the first generation of royals to grow up in this celebrity era, like you say.
00:37:09
Speaker
Because before, it was easier to keep control of the press.
00:37:14
Speaker
Before you had things like social media.
00:37:15
Speaker
Before you had things like, I don't know, people leaking stuff to the press within your office.
00:37:22
Speaker
And...
00:37:24
Speaker
That's another thing that Harry actually says, which is quite sad actually, is that when Charles and Camilla became public with their relationship, obviously there was a lot of backlash around that.
00:37:34
Speaker
And he alleges or claims that Charles and Camilla's office, they were leaking bad stories about Harry.
00:37:42
Speaker
So all the stories about him taking cocaine, doing drugs, they were leaking those stories deliberately to deflect from their relationship or the flack their relationship was getting.
00:37:52
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And they try to portray Charles as like this, oh, way but high dad who's struggling with this, you know, coke addicted son to try to rehabilitate their images.
00:38:02
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He's a scapegoat child in a narcissistic family.
00:38:05
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And it sucks.
00:38:07
Speaker
You know, none of this.
00:38:09
Speaker
And the thing is, he would be the best scapegoat.
00:38:11
Speaker
None of their behavior surprises me because they have a dynamic that's similar in a lot of families like that.
00:38:16
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Yeah.
00:38:17
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Yeah.
00:38:17
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Yeah.
00:38:19
Speaker
it's just like they have it's like legally
Review of 'Spare' and Future Speculations
00:38:22
Speaker
the way things are for him yeah obviously like it's yeah so that was the that was the ultimate theme um and obviously they have their happily ever after in california where that's where the book ends and and so yeah it's
00:38:40
Speaker
Would I say it's worth buying?
00:38:42
Speaker
No.
00:38:42
Speaker
If you can, I'm sure, I think there is a bootleg copy floating around the internet.
00:38:46
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This wasn't an advertisement for this book, by the way.
00:38:48
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It was just like, Savannah read it so the rest of us don't have to.
00:38:52
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And it was a requested review.
00:38:54
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But I would just say, like, if you've watched a Netflix documentary and Harry's interviews, it doesn't really say much more than that.
00:38:59
Speaker
Unless you really want to hear about Harry's stints in the army and how the petty stuff, like...
00:39:06
Speaker
he was doing coke behind a pub, then you can probably skip it to be fair.
00:39:12
Speaker
But the thing is, I do feel like he definitely left stuff out and maybe he's thinking of doing a sequel at some point because he's very careful not to name the names that he's named.
00:39:24
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He's very, very careful at the moment.
00:39:27
Speaker
And what's also interesting is that, I mean, so Harry is currently in court against a newspaper and,
00:39:34
Speaker
I think it's the Daily Mirror, I want to say.
00:39:36
Speaker
The Daily Mirror.
00:39:37
Speaker
So Piers Morgan used to be editor for that.
00:39:40
Speaker
He's Meghan Hater in chief.
00:39:44
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And they actually confirmed in the court hearing that they were getting bad stories about Harry doing drugs from Charles and Camilla's office as well.
00:39:55
Speaker
That's just so... It's so shitty, isn't it?
00:39:58
Speaker
Really, really shitty.
00:39:59
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Yeah, absolutely.
00:40:01
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And it's weird.
00:40:02
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It's weird how that doesn't seem to reflect poorly on Charles in the public eye in the way that it would like an American president, for example, if we found out like, oh, they're throwing their kids in the bus to deflect from whatever poor decision they made.
00:40:16
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Oh yeah, Charles and Camilla have basically gotten away with it.
00:40:19
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This is why at the coronation, if I was Camilla, I'd be smiling like a chest cat as well when I was crowned.
00:40:25
Speaker
Because it's not even about becoming Queen of England, but it's the ultimate redemption arc.
00:40:29
Speaker
In what...
00:40:32
Speaker
I can't think of another mistress.
00:40:33
Speaker
She got her man.
00:40:35
Speaker
Yeah, she got more than the man, though.
00:40:36
Speaker
She got, you know, she gets the public respect, the public admiration.
00:40:40
Speaker
Like, people have forgotten, you know, she's now, she does work in the domestic violence sphere, even though she invited, you know, two people who massively bullied her daughter-in-law to dinner after they've been publicly bullying her for years.
00:40:57
Speaker
And that's all swept under the carpet.
00:40:59
Speaker
It's also about the respect and prestige.
00:41:01
Speaker
And I cannot think of another mistress in history who's had this sort of redemption arc.
00:41:06
Speaker
I can't think of one.
00:41:08
Speaker
Yeah, I can't think of a mistress.
00:41:10
Speaker
I mean, trying to think of US presidents.
00:41:12
Speaker
I mean, there's like the Monica Lewinsky.
00:41:16
Speaker
I wouldn't say she's had a redemption arc so much as that people have now been so much more grossed up.
00:41:22
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It's not on Camilla's level, though.
00:41:24
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It's not like a Camilla level redemption.
00:41:26
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It's more like, oh, yeah, you know, we flew under the bus.
00:41:29
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We're really sorry.
00:41:30
Speaker
And it's because we feel bad and we realize that actually you were exploited sort of thing.
00:41:34
Speaker
Do you know what I mean?
00:41:35
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Yeah.
00:41:36
Speaker
I mean, she was like, yeah, it was more like a workplace power dynamic thing once we started from Me Too.
00:41:42
Speaker
But even she doesn't really act like she's a victim in that situation.
00:41:46
Speaker
A hundred percent.
00:41:47
Speaker
She did try to fuck him.
00:41:48
Speaker
And she knew he was married.
00:41:51
Speaker
And she wasn't a child.
00:41:52
Speaker
And like, obviously, like Bill Clinton is...
00:41:55
Speaker
way way way more responsible and i think his image has been tarnished and the arc of history and his legacy has been tarnished by that but nobody felt like nobody yeah nobody um yeah i guess she hasn't like people feel like she was clearly being thrown under the bus and like this was really unfair for monica levinsky and acting like she was the entire problem instead of bill and that bill was just basically well of course he's the president of course he's gonna cheat and shit like that so which is stupid
00:42:25
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So, so yeah, ultimate review of Spare is, I would say, just catch highlights on the internet.
00:42:32
Speaker
Don't bother reading it.
00:42:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:34
Speaker
I sort of read it for research purposes so I could do this episode, so I don't do nice things for you guys, for you listeners.
00:42:43
Speaker
Don't say we never did nothing for y'all!
00:42:46
Speaker
I've also actually read, you know the, you know 365 D&I, the film?
00:42:53
Speaker
I actually read the book as well.
00:42:57
Speaker
for use in a future episode.
00:42:58
Speaker
That was even worse than Spare.
00:43:00
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And that was even worse than the movies.
00:43:02
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So maybe I'll rant about that one in a future one.
00:43:04
Speaker
How could it possibly be worse than the movies?
00:43:07
Speaker
The movies are so bad.
00:43:08
Speaker
No, no, this was like... For some reason, like, the first movie was tolerable, but the second and third movies, they were so little.
00:43:14
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plot we didn't even review it because there was nothing to do no no the book was the book was bad like i i i'm trying to think of a worse book that i've read and i can't think of one the only redeeming feature was that my partner would like read out to me in his voice that was the only but let's be real the hotness of the actors is what carried that entire film
00:43:37
Speaker
But even that got old after a while, to be honest.
00:43:40
Speaker
By movies two and definitely three, it got old.
00:43:44
Speaker
So yeah, so maybe that will be a future one.
00:43:47
Speaker
And I can read you extracts of that book.
00:43:50
Speaker
Because honestly, it was worse than the film.
00:43:53
Speaker
I didn't think it was possible.
00:43:55
Speaker
And this is how you know, if the movie's shit, the book will be even shitter.
00:43:59
Speaker
Because the book should be better than the film, because there are some things that you can, you know, write about in book that doesn't translate to films.
00:44:08
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If you look at Lord of the Rings, for example, the movies were epic, but anybody who's read the books will tell you that they don't hold a candle to the books because some things just, you can't bring to screen.
00:44:19
Speaker
So that was my own fault, really.
00:44:22
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I should have really known.
00:44:23
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But yeah, if, if a movie is bad and it has a book with it, the book will be shitter.
00:44:28
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Trust me.
00:44:29
Speaker
So yeah, that was that.
00:44:30
Speaker
But let's just hope that Splare is never a film, basically.
00:44:36
Speaker
What's it going to be about?
00:44:37
Speaker
Like him being a dummy for years?
00:44:39
Speaker
And then, I don't know, man.
00:44:40
Speaker
I feel like all the compelling characters, there's already...
00:44:45
Speaker
There's already been a million movies and documentaries about the interesting people in that family.
00:44:50
Speaker
So, I mean, I can't think of one about Harry that would be compelling to anyone.
00:44:54
Speaker
I guess they would have to make it... You know what?
00:44:56
Speaker
No, no, no.
00:44:56
Speaker
They would have to make it like a romantic... They'd have to make it Bridgerton style.
00:45:00
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Like a complete and total romantic getaway type movie where he meets this beautiful actress and she becomes the love of his life.
00:45:08
Speaker
Okay, exactly.
00:45:09
Speaker
Okay, they could
Conclusion and Future Teasers
00:45:10
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do it, but it would have to be like a almost historical fiction in the way that they did Queen Charlotte of the Bridgerton series where they're real characters or real people, but they fictionalized the love story to make it like way more interesting than probably was and like compelling and sexy and everything.
00:45:27
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Okay.
00:45:28
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I would listen to the Harry story, Harry and Meghan story.
00:45:30
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If they fictionalize it via Bridgerton, I would totally, totally watch that because I love Bridgerton.
00:45:37
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And that's our bonus content.
00:45:39
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See y'all next week.