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Ep 9 - Wrestling moves, whiny moods, and other mayhem
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Insufficient brain cells, swan drama, and the great grape standoff—oh my. In this delightfully unhinged catch-up, we swap camping (okay, glamping) stories, reveal why Wyatt the Swan needed his own 23andMe, chat intrusive thoughts and postpartum anxiety, and troubleshoot toddler “hitting” with energy-redirect tricks (hi, clapping). We also recount Gene’s first full-body Target tantrum…over non-organic grapes (glyphosate girlies unite), wonder if food dyes can sneak into breastmilk, and confess the crunchy conversions of our formerly Red-Bull-vodka husbands—complete with “witch-doctor” pellets and Montessori floor beds. It’s cozy chaos, zero shame, maximum laughs.
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Transcript
Intro
Weekend Work Dilemmas
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Natalie Richards
Felicia,
00:00:51
Felicia Devine
Hello.
00:00:54
Felicia Devine
Natalie. How are you?
00:00:55
Natalie Richards
I'm good. Feeling, you know, a little brain dead today. It's
00:01:00
Felicia Devine
Well, it's Sunday and you're at your office, so that's confusing.
00:01:02
Natalie Richards
Sunday. I know, it's weird. I feel strange. Something about me
00:01:06
Felicia Devine
I actually, I thought about going into my office today.
00:01:10
Natalie Richards
It's kind of, it actually is nice to have a dedicated space to talk.
00:01:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And then I said, not today.
00:01:17
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
Capturing the Conversation: Podcast Realization
00:01:19
Natalie Richards
we've just been the city We've just been sitting here like talking about all this random stuff and we're like, wait, we need to be saying this on the podcast.
00:01:19
Felicia Devine
Maybe next Sunday.
00:01:26
Felicia Devine
Okay. I just realized we're 30 minutes into our scheduled time and we just hit play.
00:01:31
Natalie Richards
Oops.
00:01:34
Natalie Richards
We could have had a whole episode now.
00:01:36
Felicia Devine
That's our husband's problem.
00:01:38
Natalie Richards
Sorry, Kyle.
00:01:41
Felicia Devine
I just heard Dan take step on a bike ride.
Camping Comforts and Swans' Tales
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Felicia Devine
So we have, we have time to kill.
00:01:44
Natalie Richards
Oh, perfect.
00:01:45
Felicia Devine
It's fine.
00:01:45
Natalie Richards
Got plenty of time.
00:01:47
Felicia Devine
Plenty of time.
00:01:48
Natalie Richards
Oh, I apologize if the brain cells are not fully computing today because,
00:01:54
Felicia Devine
Okay. Tell us what you did last night. wait, I want to, I want hear about what you did last night.
00:01:58
Natalie Richards
yeah.
00:01:58
Felicia Devine
I remember you were doing this co-op situation, right?
00:02:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it's it was, well, yes, yes, kind of. Yeah, it was like friends and and with the co-op. So I, last week I was like, oh, the weather's going to be really nice this weekend.
00:02:13
Natalie Richards
Let's camp out at my parents' house, which was really, it was actually really fun.
00:02:15
Felicia Devine
huh Like intense.
00:02:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Intense. So we had like, we made our dinner outside. We did the whole thing, except we have bathrooms to go to inside. That's really, it's cheater camping, cheater camping.
00:02:31
Felicia Devine
it cheater
00:02:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah. You don't have to schlep your stuff anywhere. You just drive your truck to the backyard.
00:02:36
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:02:40
Natalie Richards
i will say my parents yard has pond and like, it's beautiful.
00:02:44
Felicia Devine
yeah
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Natalie Richards
Like you wouldn't know that you're not in a campsite.
00:02:48
Felicia Devine
It's not, it's not in like a HOA residential sidewalk lined neighborhood.
00:02:52
Natalie Richards
No, no, no, no.
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Felicia Devine
No.
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Natalie Richards
It's in the middle of the country and
00:02:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Natalie Richards
and There were, you know, coyotes eating things like just a mere hundred feet away from us. Yes.
00:03:06
Felicia Devine
Natalie's family has swans in the pond.
00:03:08
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:03:09
Felicia Devine
Are your swans what generation now?
00:03:11
Natalie Richards
theres We're on like number nine and 10 at least, but number nine is no longer now.
00:03:12
Felicia Devine
or
00:03:17
Natalie Richards
We have just number 10.
00:03:17
Felicia Devine
who Wait, it's by itself now?
00:03:20
Natalie Richards
Singular. Yes, it's so sad.
00:03:23
Felicia Devine
Do they run away or what happens to them?
00:03:25
Natalie Richards
No, she was nesting and she had her she was like sitting on her eggs and ah coyote came and got her.
00:03:27
Felicia Devine
Oh.
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Felicia Devine
oh Oh, oh, that's okay.
00:03:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah, like it it like happens, like for real.
00:03:36
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:03:37
Natalie Richards
That's happened to at least half of them.
00:03:39
Felicia Devine
Oh, well, that's depressing.
00:03:39
Natalie Richards
The first one was the psychotic one that might have chased everybody.
00:03:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah. You said chase your brother.
00:03:47
Natalie Richards
Chased everybody.
00:03:48
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:03:50
Natalie Richards
my dad One of my dad's friends was like at the bonfire one night and the swan's name was Wyatt.
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Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:03:57
Natalie Richards
Wyatt comes up, attaches, his beak attaches to the back of his the guy's coat and he's running around, literally running around in a circle around the bonfire with a swan attached to his coat.
00:04:11
Felicia Devine
We all think swans are like beautiful, majestic, gentle beings.
00:04:14
Natalie Richards
Oh, God.
00:04:14
Felicia Devine
No, they're crazy.
00:04:16
Natalie Richards
No. So every time somebody would go in the backyard, they had to have like a boat cushion with them to like defend themselves against Wyatt.
00:04:22
Felicia Devine
oh
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Natalie Richards
Wyatt was like, no, Wyatt was cray cray.
00:04:23
Felicia Devine
are you serious?
00:04:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
RIP Wyatt.
00:04:29
Natalie Richards
So we're on number, it's got to be at least number 10.
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Felicia Devine
Oh gosh.
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Natalie Richards
I don't know.
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Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:04:33
Natalie Richards
But the Lone Ranger is out there right now. So, you know, you do I guess.
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Felicia Devine
Oh, it needs a friend. we should We should fund it another friend.
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Natalie Richards
I know.
00:04:40
Felicia Devine
Where do you buy swans?
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Felicia Devine
They don't sell them like tractor supply, do they?
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Natalie Richards
There's something called a swan swap.
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Natalie Richards
And you go and there's like – no, I swear to God.
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Felicia Devine
Wait, you're being serious?
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Felicia Devine
What?
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Natalie Richards
I think it's like in Wisconsin somewhere. I don't know. And people like bring their therere baby swans that and they just swap them out.
00:04:56
Felicia Devine
And you go in?
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Natalie Richards
So you can – the weird thing is that it's like acceptable practice to allow –
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Natalie Richards
ah ah one generation of like siblings to mate with each other. It's like the weirdest freaking thing.
00:05:15
Felicia Devine
No. Ew.
00:05:17
Natalie Richards
So i there's there's like a whole swan protocol and a whole like swan etiquette of owners. And I don't know the ins and outs, truthfully.
00:05:27
Felicia Devine
I think Wyatt sounds like he was second generation sibling.
00:05:30
Natalie Richards
why it was doubt And that's why I think a lot of them maybe are a little bit, a little screwy in the head.
00:05:35
Felicia Devine
Crazy.
00:05:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:05:36
Felicia Devine
Oh, wow.
00:05:36
Natalie Richards
Because they are inbred. and
00:05:40
Felicia Devine
Okay. Something we all didn't know we needed to know.
00:05:45
Felicia Devine
Do your research if you're going to a swan swap.
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Natalie Richards
yeah just like make sure it's not like yeah I don't know I don't know how you would ever know but that's a thing and great idea
00:05:49
Felicia Devine
Check that lineage.
00:05:53
Felicia Devine
No, literally. We need a, we need a, what's that DNA website?
00:06:02
Felicia Devine
We need a 23andMe swan edition.
DNA Talk: 23andMe and Cold Cases
00:06:05
Felicia Devine
Wait, speaking of 23andMe, have you ever done that?
00:06:05
Natalie Richards
great idea Yeah. No, I have not. i
00:06:09
Felicia Devine
I can't tell if I want to.
00:06:10
Natalie Richards
I'm on the fence about really wanting to. Part of me is like, will it really change anything that I know about myself? I don't know.
00:06:19
Felicia Devine
No, but it will link you one step closer to being a cold case file murderer.
00:06:24
Natalie Richards
That's true.
00:06:25
Felicia Devine
That's literally how they're finding all these cold case murderers.
00:06:25
Natalie Richards
It can. That's true.
00:06:28
Felicia Devine
the the So the reason I say that is because like they would be like, oh, Natalie submitted her DNA and three uncles removed. He was a murderer, but they used your DNA to solve that.
00:06:39
Natalie Richards
Oh, can you imagine?
00:06:40
Felicia Devine
I know. Wait, so is that a good deed? That's a good deed. We should do it then.
00:06:44
Natalie Richards
i guess.
00:06:45
Felicia Devine
We're solving murders.
00:06:46
Natalie Richards
If it's like our third removed uncle, is that a good thing to expose them?
00:06:50
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:06:54
Felicia Devine
Not good for our family, but good for society. No, but I, I, I'm, so when I was pregnant, I watched 22 seasons of cold case files or something.
00:07:03
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:07:03
Felicia Devine
Obsessed.
00:07:04
Natalie Richards
Did that not like freak you out?
00:07:07
Natalie Richards
oh
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Natalie Richards
Right.
00:07:16
Felicia Devine
um,
00:07:16
Natalie Richards
I see.
00:07:17
Felicia Devine
they're now coming back and they're reopening these files and they're running DNA forensics and comparing it to the public databases of like 23andMe.
00:07:27
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:07:28
Felicia Devine
Aren't there other ones? I forget what they are, but there's like, there's a couple other brands.
00:07:31
Natalie Richards
it's Again, not computing.
00:07:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Again, not coming to the forefront,
00:07:35
Natalie Richards
it's ah I don't know.
00:07:38
Felicia Devine
but then they're using that DNA profile and finding familial matches.
00:07:44
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:07:45
Felicia Devine
So now all these people are getting busted.
00:07:47
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:07:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So very interesting.
00:07:51
Natalie Richards
That's but speaking of family, that's kind of what we're talking about.
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Felicia Devine
Wait, you never finished your camping story.
00:07:58
Natalie Richards
No, I didn't. Okay. Okay. Okay.
00:07:59
Felicia Devine
Okay. Who was there? What did you do?
00:08:01
Natalie Richards
We had, we really only had two tents that ended up staying all night.
00:08:09
Felicia Devine
was was
00:08:09
Natalie Richards
there were a lot of people who had talked about camping. They still came for the fire and for dinner and everything.
00:08:13
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:08:14
Natalie Richards
So there were probably, oh at least 20, I think there were like 20 people probably.
00:08:19
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:08:20
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So it was fun. The kids all played, had a great time.
00:08:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Was the weather good?
00:08:24
Natalie Richards
The weather was beautiful. it definitely – it was like 65 during the daytime.
00:08:26
Felicia Devine
Okay. Got chilly.
00:08:31
Natalie Richards
At night though, it got to definitely 45. It was like it was little cold.
00:08:36
Felicia Devine
Did you stay outside?
00:08:37
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:37
Natalie Richards
So we – braved it in the tent. Gene slept like an angel.
00:08:43
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:08:43
Natalie Richards
he He was like, oh, it's time to go to bed in my fort. but was so cute.
00:08:48
Natalie Richards
he's just like It was like 10 o'clock and he's like, okay, I'm ready to go to bed in my fort. Let's go.
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Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:08:54
Natalie Richards
was so cute.
00:08:54
Felicia Devine
So cute. And he stayed in all night.
00:08:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. As long as I mean, as long as I was laying there. Yeah.
00:09:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't going anyway.
00:09:01
Natalie Richards
i No. If I were to leave, he'd be like, what is this?
00:09:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:05
Felicia Devine
Beside himself. The swan would come for him.
00:09:09
Natalie Richards
So he like he was bundled in like four blankets. He had the sleeping bag like zipped around him.
00:09:15
Felicia Devine
Oh, he also loves so many blankets on top of him.
00:09:15
Natalie Richards
He was like snug as a little bug. It was so cute. He does. So he was in heaven and it was – for him, he was probably very warm actually.
00:09:22
Felicia Devine
So.
00:09:26
Natalie Richards
I was slightly chilly if I didn't have the blankets like in the exact right place and then there were all these noises and then I – honestly, I slept zero minutes last night.
00:09:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. and hey
00:09:37
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:09:39
Natalie Richards
Like zero.
00:09:39
Felicia Devine
That's why you have no brain cells.
00:09:41
Natalie Richards
I have nothing going on in my brain today.
00:09:43
Felicia Devine
Oh no.
00:09:44
Natalie Richards
I think I
Camping Challenges and Sleep Struggles
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Natalie Richards
maybe slept after I went to the bathroom at like 5.45 in the morning. I think I maybe slept for 45 minutes, but like half asleep, like not really, not real sleep.
00:09:54
Felicia Devine
Oh no.
00:09:57
Natalie Richards
It was crazy.
00:09:57
Felicia Devine
Oh, that's not good.
00:09:58
Natalie Richards
it was like one of those instances I'm just like laying there like, there's no hope. im
00:10:04
Felicia Devine
Might as well and not even try.
00:10:05
Natalie Richards
By the time, by the time the noise, like my mom was, she like came out and was like clapping at the coyotes to like make sure they didn't attack us, but like they weren't that close.
00:10:13
Felicia Devine
Anita. Anita.
00:10:19
Natalie Richards
They were we definitely close, but not that close.
00:10:23
Felicia Devine
andita
00:10:23
Natalie Richards
And she's like coming up. I'm like, I'm just falling asleep. And she's clapping. Get out of here. Get out of here.
00:10:30
Felicia Devine
Have we talked about the reference of your mom being Meredith Blake?
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
That's very Meredith but meredith Blake.
00:10:40
Natalie Richards
is. She is.
00:10:42
Felicia Devine
Oh, my God. That's funny.
00:10:43
Natalie Richards
So then it was like the owls, then it was more coyotes, then it was this dog like two miles away that I could hear. Just bark it.
00:10:51
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:10:51
Natalie Richards
is Truly for three hours, I think this dog barked.
00:10:54
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:10:55
Natalie Richards
I'm like, can't you can't you figure out, like, can't you shut your dog up for a moment?
00:11:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Either bring it inside or yeah.
00:11:00
Natalie Richards
Aren't you getting annoyed? Isn't somebody else getting annoyed by this?
00:11:03
Felicia Devine
Oh no. know. When my dog's annoying for three minutes, I'm like, no.
00:11:09
Natalie Richards
Like the neighbors can hear you. Stop.
00:11:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh my gosh. Did gator come?
00:11:14
Natalie Richards
So a gator came.
00:11:15
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:11:16
Natalie Richards
yeah That was then he's like moving in his little crate in the truck.
00:11:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:20
Natalie Richards
And I hear that. And then it's just like one thing after another.
00:11:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:23
Natalie Richards
So I i didn't sleep.
00:11:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:24
Natalie Richards
But that was okay.
00:11:25
Felicia Devine
We tried to tent camp in our backyard at our old house.
00:11:30
Natalie Richards
Oh, you did?
00:11:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah. when
00:11:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:11:32
Felicia Devine
When Feeney was a little puppy we were trying to get her used to like being in a tent.
00:11:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:11:37
Felicia Devine
And inside – so we lived in a brick house and like inside the house at night, you couldn't hear anything. Like had no idea.
00:11:44
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:11:45
Felicia Devine
had a loud neighborhood. The second we went to bed, literally was there – Natalie, I was out there for 34 minutes.
00:11:53
Natalie Richards
like, I can't do it.
00:11:54
Felicia Devine
I packed up. I went right inside. I said, that is that is not – we're not sleeping.
00:11:59
Natalie Richards
You don't realize the sounds.
00:11:59
Felicia Devine
Like, I knew after 30 minutes it was not going to work.
00:12:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:02
Felicia Devine
So I packed up. I went inside. Dan and Josephine and stayed out for, like, another hour and a half.
00:12:07
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:12:07
Felicia Devine
They came in at, like, midnight. But, like, no one was sleeping. It's so loud.
00:12:12
Natalie Richards
Exactly. i don't
00:12:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:13
Natalie Richards
i don't understand.
00:12:13
Felicia Devine
So –
00:12:14
Natalie Richards
Like, thank goodness for our houses because I would be – don't know.
00:12:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. and guess how many times
00:12:18
Natalie Richards
We're going to probably try it again.
00:12:20
Felicia Devine
guess how many times Josephine has gone tent camping since?
00:12:22
Natalie Richards
Zero.
00:12:23
Felicia Devine
Zero.
00:12:25
Natalie Richards
It's a great idea.
00:12:27
Felicia Devine
She's an indoor doggy.
00:12:28
Natalie Richards
oh my God.
00:12:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:29
Natalie Richards
i had I was like, oh, I'm going to get all the camping stuff. We're going to do this. Like, it's going to be fun.
00:12:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:34
Natalie Richards
Jean's going to like it.
00:12:34
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:12:35
Natalie Richards
Now I'm like, I don't want to do that again for a while.
00:12:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah, you're like, and we're going to hit return on those.
00:12:42
Natalie Richards
oh
00:12:43
Felicia Devine
No, I prefer glamping. I'm a glamper.
00:12:46
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:12:46
Felicia Devine
I love a shower.
00:12:48
Natalie Richards
Definitely.
00:12:49
Felicia Devine
I love a bed.
00:12:51
Natalie Richards
Definitely.
00:12:51
Felicia Devine
My nemesis, a sleeping bag.
00:12:51
Natalie Richards
i mean,
00:12:55
Natalie Richards
I know they're not good. That was half of my problem.
00:12:57
Felicia Devine
They're so slippery.
00:12:59
Natalie Richards
They're so slippery. They're so tiny. Like I can't get –
00:13:01
Felicia Devine
Who invented that?
00:13:03
Natalie Richards
If it's not fully zipped up, like I can't actually get it over my body. Like it doesn't do anything for me.
00:13:09
Felicia Devine
Also, the the trapping that it does of my feet.
00:13:09
Natalie Richards
Oh
00:13:14
Natalie Richards
um my my God. The most uncomfortable thing. cannot have my feet trapped. That was so bad.
00:13:20
Felicia Devine
Like, if my feet are trapped, i am not sleeping. So, yeah.
00:13:23
Natalie Richards
No.
00:13:24
Felicia Devine
No. No, I hate a sleeping bag. The slipperiness.
00:13:31
Felicia Devine
Wait.
00:13:31
Natalie Richards
See, I had to get the flannel lined ones.
00:13:32
Felicia Devine
Wait.
00:13:34
Natalie Richards
I've made sure that I got a flannel lined sleeping bag, but the outs it's so yes.
00:13:35
Felicia Devine
Okay. But the exterior is still slippery. So, if you're laying on something and somebody's next to you, you're just sliding into each other.
00:13:44
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:13:44
Felicia Devine
And then you're touched. No. We need to create Velcro.
00:13:47
Natalie Richards
And the air mattress was so bad.
00:13:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:13:49
Natalie Richards
Like it's it was a really – how can an air mattress be nice? But it was a really nice air mattress, top of the line.
00:13:54
Felicia Devine
It was top line. Yeah.
00:13:57
Natalie Richards
and I was laying there like, this is a board. I'm i'm much better sleeping on the ground. Like I think I would – I would do much better.
00:14:06
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:14:07
Natalie Richards
so then I went to the ground because Gene has his little – oh, did I tell you Gene does not sleep in his bed? He sleeps on a floor mat. like a
00:14:16
Felicia Devine
Wait, I thought you did.
00:14:16
Natalie Richards
He sleeps on like a Japanese floor bed.
00:14:17
Felicia Devine
Did you tell me this? Why?
00:14:20
Natalie Richards
because he he has a floor mattress, by the way.
00:14:22
Felicia Devine
Why?
00:14:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:26
Natalie Richards
Okay. So like, but that's not but that's not good enough for him.
00:14:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So to step low enough. Okay.
00:14:30
Natalie Richards
It's not low enough. It was scary to him, apparently. So he goes, my bed is scary. I can't sleep there.
00:14:36
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:14:37
Natalie Richards
Like, okay. So for a little while, just had blankets on the floor of his bedroom and he loved it and he would sleep there all night with no problem.
00:14:42
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:14:45
Felicia Devine
No problem.
00:14:47
Natalie Richards
So then I was like, okay, I'll upgrade you to this little like mat thing that can roll up and I can like take it places. So I brought his little bed basically with us to camp and that – it worked great because he was like, oh, nothing's changed.
00:14:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:01
Felicia Devine
No, he was in heaven.
00:15:02
Natalie Richards
He was in heaven.
00:15:03
Felicia Devine
I've seen those Japanese floor mat beds.
00:15:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:06
Felicia Devine
Honestly, kind of wish I did that for SAP. He's on like a twin size mattress, like floor.
00:15:10
Natalie Richards
Right. On the floor.
00:15:12
Felicia Devine
Well, Dan built a frame.
00:15:15
Natalie Richards
It has like a little something.
00:15:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Which, so it's technical technically like a Montessori floor bed. Yeah.
00:15:22
Natalie Richards
Right. $1,000.
00:15:23
Felicia Devine
But Montessori, anything, it's like you attach the word wedding to anything and it's like 10 times expensive.
00:15:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:31
Felicia Devine
Literally, twin size Montessori frame is like $600 to $800.
00:15:39
Natalie Richards
That's insane. Uh-huh.
00:15:40
Felicia Devine
And it's minimalistic. Nothing to it.
00:15:44
Natalie Richards
It's a couple two-by-fours.
00:15:46
Felicia Devine
Literally, we we spent $80 on lumber. What's it called? Lumber?
00:15:51
Natalie Richards
Lumbar. Are we chiropractors?
00:15:54
Felicia Devine
Lumber. Lumbar is a bone in your back.
00:15:57
Natalie Richards
Oh, shoot. Hold on.
00:16:00
Felicia Devine
Are you about to get crushed by your ring light?
00:16:00
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:16:04
Felicia Devine
Okay. Lumber is the word. We spent $80 on lumber and my handyman of a husband who's, let's say, not not the most handy, ah he built this frame and it's lovely.
00:16:12
Natalie Richards
Wonderful. Not the most handy. Amazing.
00:16:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So anyway, I wish I had a Japanese floor mat. I didn't need a frame for that.
00:16:23
Natalie Richards
No, you wouldn't. Which I don't know how I feel about it long term, truthfully. I'm like, yeah, it has like it has a cover that you can take off.
00:16:28
Felicia Devine
Can you wash Can you like put it in the washer? Oh, has a cover. Okay.
00:16:32
Natalie Richards
But then some of it's like, is it going to get like moldy because it doesn't breathe underneath?
00:16:34
Felicia Devine
How big is it? Is a twin?
00:16:38
Natalie Richards
like I don't know.
00:16:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:39
Natalie Richards
it's it that It's a twin size, yeah.
00:16:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:42
Natalie Richards
But, right.
00:16:42
Felicia Devine
No, that's why we built a frame because they say like if your mattress is on like the actual floor, there's like mold potential.
00:16:48
Natalie Richards
Exactly. So I'm like, I don't know how I feel about this, but hopefully it won't be for too much longer and he'll actually sleep in his normal floor bed.
00:16:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:56
Felicia Devine
Hopefully he'll go back to his bed.
00:16:58
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:16:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. When did you get rid of the crib?
00:16:59
Natalie Richards
But. ah He was like two and a half. It hasn't been long.
00:17:06
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:17:06
Natalie Richards
It hasn't been long. But he was kind of sad about it, actually.
00:17:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:09
Natalie Richards
I thought he was going to do be like, oh, yeah, big boy bed.
00:17:11
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:17:12
Natalie Richards
Awesome.
00:17:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:13
Natalie Richards
And he goes, where's my crib? He didn't even like being in there before.
00:17:16
Felicia Devine
Oh. Oh.
00:17:19
Natalie Richards
i don't know. Yeah.
00:17:20
Felicia Devine
Poor kid.
00:17:21
Natalie Richards
was sad. But at that point he was sleeping with us anyway.
00:17:23
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:17:25
Natalie Richards
So he never slept in the dang crib. but Like you don't care about your crib. And then all of a sudden I take it out and he goes, I need my crib.
00:17:31
Felicia Devine
Where's my crib? Yeah, give me my crib back.
00:17:33
Natalie Richards
Okay. Whatever. So I didn't.
00:17:35
Felicia Devine
Oh, my goodness.
00:17:36
Natalie Richards
He got a floor bed.
00:17:37
Felicia Devine
Sep slept in an actual pack and play for 14 months.
00:17:39
Natalie Richards
you oh my. Like.
00:17:42
Felicia Devine
Like a pack and play. But I bought him like an avocado, like the bougiest mattress you can buy.
00:17:43
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:17:46
Natalie Richards
like
00:17:49
Felicia Devine
he had an avocado mattress in his pack and play, and he loved it
00:17:51
Natalie Richards
Wow. I didn't know they made that.
00:17:53
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:53
Natalie Richards
That's amazing.
00:17:54
Felicia Devine
So the I just bought what's it a mini crib size mattress.
00:17:58
Natalie Richards
Okay. Yeah.
00:17:59
Felicia Devine
So a pack and play is the size of a mini crib.
00:18:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:18:01
Felicia Devine
So I just bought that and then he would sleep in there and he loved his pack and play. But then i was like, okay, I feel kind of bad that he's in a pack and play for 14 months.
00:18:06
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:18:09
Natalie Richards
the
00:18:11
Natalie Richards
They get tiny at that point. like It's like you don't fit in here anymore.
00:18:14
Felicia Devine
I was like, he was like literally squished side to side, but he like liked it. But I was like, okay, so his floor bed has been in his room since the day he was born.
00:18:22
Natalie Richards
I remember.
00:18:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But I was like, okay, I have to like move you over to your real bed. And he's done fine. He's, he tea touches every inch of that bed the whole night.
00:18:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:18:31
Felicia Devine
Like he literally is a whirling dervish all over the place.
00:18:35
Natalie Richards
And he doesn't fall off.
00:18:36
Felicia Devine
Well, we have like a mesh rail.
00:18:37
Natalie Richards
You have like yeah. Yeah.
00:18:39
Felicia Devine
We put on mesh rails that go up and down.
00:18:40
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:18:41
Felicia Devine
So like when I go to get him in the morning, I just like put the whole rail down and I just like sit on his bed and he climbs up himself and stuff.
00:18:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah. yeah
00:18:47
Felicia Devine
But only because honestly, I'm like scared he's going get out of bed and then like prop himself behind the door and then I can't get in.
00:18:55
Natalie Richards
There are a lot of things that could happen.
00:18:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I'm like, I don't trust that I like can get to you if you're not contained.
00:18:57
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:19:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:19:02
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:19:04
Felicia Devine
But it's not like it's not forever. It's just like, well, well, you don't have like the wits about getting stuck behind doors.
00:19:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah, for now.
00:19:11
Natalie Richards
And he doesn't know how to get out himself at this point.
00:19:14
Felicia Devine
Exactly. Yeah.
00:19:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:19:16
Felicia Devine
So.
00:19:16
Natalie Richards
It's kind of freaky, actually.
00:19:18
Felicia Devine
I know. so I'm like, I'm going to wait until like can communicate. Like I can say, Giuseppe, you need to get up and move away from the door.
00:19:25
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:19:26
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:19:26
Natalie Richards
Do – yes, that would be considered intrusive thought.
00:19:27
Felicia Devine
Is that like intrusive thoughts? Yeah.
00:19:31
Felicia Devine
like
00:19:34
Felicia Devine
and classified.
00:19:34
Natalie Richards
I was just thinking about that the other day.
Navigating Intrusive Thoughts
00:19:37
Natalie Richards
i was like, do I get intrusive thoughts? I don't know.
00:19:39
Felicia Devine
my God, i get them all the time.
00:19:39
Natalie Richards
and do you really?
00:19:40
Felicia Devine
imer oh all the time, Natalie. Yeah,
00:19:43
Natalie Richards
like i know a lot of people do and I had one – Today, actually. i think it's because I was sleep deprived.
00:19:49
Felicia Devine
because you have no brain cells.
00:19:50
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:19:50
Felicia Devine
yeah What was your intrusive thought?
00:19:52
Natalie Richards
And I was microwaving. was microwaving. ah ah so Like I was making French toast this morning. Campfire French toast.
00:19:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:01
Natalie Richards
But I had to go. I was making it inside.
00:20:02
Felicia Devine
But you had a microwave?
00:20:03
Natalie Richards
i was making it inside. It was supposed to be outside. Whatever.
00:20:07
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:20:07
Natalie Richards
Made it inside. was microwaving maple syrup and butter together to the point that it's like boiling.
00:20:12
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:20:13
Natalie Richards
And that's like the syrup that we use for our French toast.
00:20:13
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:20:19
Natalie Richards
And Gene was running around without a shirt on because he like he spilled water on himself. So it was in the dryer.
00:20:27
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:20:28
Natalie Richards
i I was like, oh my gosh, this would be horrible if he like came around me and it spilled on him. Like that was my intrusive thought.
00:20:35
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yeah.
00:20:37
Natalie Richards
But i I thought about it. I was like, don't get that. Like, I don't have that.
00:20:41
Felicia Devine
Oh, I have six intrusive thoughts a day.
00:20:43
Natalie Richards
my gosh.
00:20:44
Felicia Devine
Minimum.
00:20:45
Natalie Richards
That's horrifying.
00:20:47
Felicia Devine
So in my new house, I'll share one that's repetitive, like a scary dream. So in my house, on our second story, we have like on one side of the house, we have two bedrooms and like a bathroom.
00:20:59
Felicia Devine
And then there's a like a bridge.
00:21:04
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:21:04
Felicia Devine
So it's open air on both sides down to the floor, the tile.
00:21:05
Natalie Richards
Open on both sides.
00:21:09
Felicia Devine
And then the bridge goes across and then it's our side of the house. So it's like my bedroom, Steph's bedroom.
00:21:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:21:16
Felicia Devine
But this bridge is like only there's like, what's it called when you have like staircase rungs, slats, spindles, spindles, and like a little wood but like railing.
00:21:23
Natalie Richards
I'm going to say rungs. That's the only thing I can... It's not those. Spindles. Spindles. This is hard today.
00:21:33
Felicia Devine
And that's all that's like containing us. And when I'm like up in the middle of the night going to get set to nurse him or like, I'm so terrified. We're going to both fall over the bridge and splat on the ground.
00:21:43
Natalie Richards
I would have that intrusive thought too, I think.
00:21:46
Felicia Devine
It's like repetitive. And then I'm like, if I carry him, I have to walk like down the exact center of the bridge.
00:21:47
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:21:50
Natalie Richards
and just like, okay.
00:21:52
Felicia Devine
Cause I'm like, please don't jump out of my arms and fly off the bridge.
00:21:56
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's horrible.
00:21:57
Felicia Devine
It's really scary.
00:21:59
Natalie Richards
o Yeah, we need to release some emotions in you.
00:21:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But, oh, last night there was a couple ambulances across the street, policeman, ambulances, and
00:22:02
Natalie Richards
know
00:22:04
Natalie Richards
A lot.
00:22:08
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:22:12
Felicia Devine
10 minutes later, I have to go nurse Sepp because he woke up. I'm nursing him. And I go, OK, so if there were ambulances at my house, how would they get in my house? And then would my dog attack them? And like, what would I do with Sepp?
00:22:22
Felicia Devine
Because if I was having the emergency, like I'm running through on emergency protocols in my head while I'm nursing him because I'm like, what would happen?
00:22:31
Natalie Richards
I feel like that's a good thing to do What would you do?
00:22:33
Felicia Devine
No, but they were like, I was I was dying.
00:22:36
Natalie Richards
if you were dying.
00:22:36
Felicia Devine
Those are the thoughts that I was like actively dying.
00:22:37
Natalie Richards
I see. Okay. Okay.
00:22:39
Felicia Devine
Not like, OK, how?
00:22:40
Natalie Richards
How would somebody actually come save me?
00:22:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:42
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:22:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No, was like, I'm dying. This is what happened.
00:22:45
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:22:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah. It's crazy.
00:22:47
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's horrific.
00:22:48
Felicia Devine
i know. It's exhausting.
00:22:50
Natalie Richards
It is.
00:22:51
Felicia Devine
It's like daydreaming, but like on steroids.
00:22:54
Natalie Richards
oh. I'm
00:22:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:58
Felicia Devine
How do you, wait, is is your is course done?
00:22:59
Natalie Richards
like
00:23:00
Felicia Devine
Can you release that?
00:23:01
Natalie Richards
No, it's not done yet. i know.
00:23:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:06
Natalie Richards
The only problem with the course right now is that in order to move past like a certain level, you also have to read the corresponding book. And that's my only – yeah.
00:23:15
Felicia Devine
There's separate books.
00:23:18
Natalie Richards
there's That's my only thing that like takes me longer because I don't – I can sit there –
00:23:18
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:23:23
Felicia Devine
have audio?
00:23:25
Natalie Richards
with audio Yeah. half Most of it's audio, like pre-recorded sessions.
00:23:30
Felicia Devine
No, but the books, can you do audio books?
00:23:30
Natalie Richards
And then, oh, the book. I guess I probably could.
00:23:33
Felicia Devine
Are they like real books are they like, they are?
00:23:33
Natalie Richards
i have never – yeah Yeah. No, they're real books. Yeah.
00:23:38
Felicia Devine
Oh, you should audible it.
Parenting Trials: Toddlers' Behaviors and Hitting
00:23:39
Natalie Richards
I should.
00:23:40
Felicia Devine
You should get a like a free month subscription of Audible and just like crush them on your commutes.
00:23:40
Natalie Richards
That's a good idea. Yeah. And then finish all of them. I could do that really easily.
00:23:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Maybe I'll do that because that's the thing that's like holding me back because I want to read the corresponding stuff.
00:23:54
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:23:54
Natalie Richards
before I move on to the next piece.
00:23:54
Felicia Devine
So that you know what you're doing.
00:23:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:23:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:57
Natalie Richards
So whatever. So it's coming.
00:24:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:00
Natalie Richards
I promise it's coming.
00:24:02
Felicia Devine
It's coming.
00:24:02
Natalie Richards
I'll heal you. I will i will heal you, Felicia.
00:24:03
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah.
00:24:05
Natalie Richards
I'm excited because I will be able to heal myself.
00:24:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:08
Natalie Richards
can do it on myself.
00:24:10
Felicia Devine
And then we'll have listeners call in.
00:24:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Let's do healing session and an emotion code session.
00:24:15
Felicia Devine
oh my gosh.
00:24:18
Felicia Devine
That would be really fun. I love it. Okay. So I have a question.
00:24:23
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:24:24
Felicia Devine
So Giuseppe entered the era of like hitting. And Dan and I are communicating this morning about like, how are we, how are we addressing the hitting?
00:24:38
Felicia Devine
Cause like, he's not hitting out of anger. Like clearly he's just like, he's not acting out.
00:24:41
Natalie Richards
No.
00:24:43
Felicia Devine
He's just like hitting. I honestly don't know why he's hitting, but it's not in a tantrum.
00:24:48
Natalie Richards
What are the instances? Like, is it?
00:24:50
Felicia Devine
It's not tantrum related. It's like we'll be playing with something like we'll be playing with like trains or like cars and then he'll like pick them up and like whack you over the head with it.
00:24:57
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:25:00
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:25:01
Felicia Devine
And so it's like it's like inappropriate play for that toy.
00:25:06
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:25:07
Felicia Devine
Or he'll like walk up and like instead of like blowing a kiss at you, he like smacks you in the head.
00:25:13
Natalie Richards
Got it.
00:25:14
Felicia Devine
You know, but it's not like we're in the middle of a grocery store and he's just like, no, no.
00:25:16
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:25:19
Natalie Richards
He's not having like a tantrum. It's not it's not like menacing hitting. It's
00:25:24
Felicia Devine
And it's not like he's dysregulated in the moment.
00:25:27
Natalie Richards
Right. He just – honestly, a Gene is the exact same way.
00:25:30
Felicia Devine
I don't.
00:25:32
Natalie Richards
because Not hitting. I don't think he like – but physical like like too much.
00:25:34
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:25:39
Natalie Richards
i always I tell him all the time, i a junior, just like too much.
00:25:40
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:25:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah. you you need to be touching people too much. And I think it's just like release of emotion or a release of like pent up energy inside them.
00:25:55
Natalie Richards
And if it's not, if it's not like, if they're not shown how to do it constructively with something else, they're going to do it with some other object or whatever.
00:26:03
Felicia Devine
Right. Yes.
00:26:08
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:26:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:08
Natalie Richards
It's really hard.
00:26:10
Felicia Devine
So we ah collectively decided like, okay, when he's hitting like no big emotion, like yeah we're not going to like react big.
00:26:16
Natalie Richards
No.
00:26:18
Felicia Devine
We're just going to like divert the energy. But like one of the things we're like focusing on is like, oh if you want to hit, we can clap.
00:26:21
Natalie Richards
huh
00:26:27
Felicia Devine
And I walk out right before we start podcasting and I hear Dan say, oh, oh, how about we clap?
00:26:28
Natalie Richards
That's fine.
00:26:33
Felicia Devine
And he's over there clapping. I'm dying laughing because it's like he actually does it.
00:26:36
Natalie Richards
Maybe it'll work. Yeah. He just needs to release it, to release something somehow.
00:26:39
Felicia Devine
Because he like, yeah. And he's just standing there like, like clapping away. Like he's happy as a clam, which is just so cute.
00:26:48
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:26:48
Felicia Devine
But I'm like, it's only going to work so long for us to like divert the like hitting to clapping. So we need like, we need phase two.
00:26:53
Natalie Richards
Oh, no. oh no. For a little while, it was so funny because Gene wasn't a hitter.
00:26:57
Felicia Devine
But.
00:27:01
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:27:01
Natalie Richards
But then ah ah if something would like hurt him or something, my mom would be like, oh, just hit it back.
00:27:07
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:27:10
Natalie Richards
or so
00:27:11
Felicia Devine
No.
00:27:11
Natalie Richards
And I'm like, No.
00:27:14
Felicia Devine
Your mom's like, be the bully.
00:27:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God. I'm like, can we not, please? So, like, it he would run into something, let's say, and it, like, hurt his leg.
00:27:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:24
Natalie Richards
he would just, like, hit the object.
00:27:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:27
Natalie Richards
Sure, fine. If it's an object, fine.
00:27:29
Felicia Devine
Right. But then it doesn't translate if like a kid pushes you on the playground and Jean
00:27:29
Natalie Richards
Give it a little tap. No, if – right. Which I guess whatever. If a kid pushes you on the playground, Gene, it's do it.
00:27:36
Felicia Devine
deck him deck him hard.
00:27:40
Natalie Richards
So last night last night at the ed our at our camp out, he was he was like wrestling in our tent before we got anything anything put in there, wrestling with other kids.
00:27:43
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:27:51
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:27:52
Natalie Richards
And he starts like – he would have like some kid's leg like in a lock. Yeah. like basically what a headlock would be, but it was his leg.
00:28:01
Felicia Devine
But a leg lock.
00:28:02
Natalie Richards
Thank God.
00:28:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:28:04
Natalie Richards
And he starts going one, two, three, one, two, three. I'm like, you have got to be kidding me.
00:28:11
Felicia Devine
Where'd he learn that?
00:28:11
Natalie Richards
And Kyle, Kyle looks at me he goes, Hmm, I don't know where you learned that.
00:28:13
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:28:18
Natalie Richards
But he'll like – Kyle will like teach him jujitsu moves. They're like wrestling on the bed and he's teaching him like legitimate wrestling moves.
00:28:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:28:27
Natalie Richards
And everyone's like, does Gene actually know how to wrestle? I'm like, honestly, by this point he might. I don't know.
00:28:32
Felicia Devine
He might. He might be pretty good.
00:28:33
Natalie Richards
And he loves nothing more than to just –
00:28:36
Felicia Devine
Squeeze things.
00:28:36
Natalie Richards
wrestle and just squeeze and sit on your head.
00:28:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:28:40
Natalie Richards
And like, and like when I'm laying next to him, I'm like, Jean, can we just like, can we just sit here, please?
00:28:46
Felicia Devine
We can't do that either. We can't.
00:28:47
Natalie Richards
please no i mean, it's, I think it's a boy thing.
00:28:49
Felicia Devine
No.
00:28:51
Natalie Richards
Truthfully.
00:28:51
Felicia Devine
It is.
00:28:52
Natalie Richards
It's good for them from everything that i hear, read, see, whatever.
00:28:53
Felicia Devine
Before, it is.
00:28:58
Natalie Richards
It's good for them. But I'm like, can you just wrestle with your dad?
00:28:59
Felicia Devine
have selective hearing.
00:29:02
Felicia Devine
I was selective hearing and thinking that it is good for them. But we do the same thing with Giuseppe. Like before, after bath time, before bed, we like do WrestleMania.
00:29:11
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:29:11
Felicia Devine
And it's like, he runs around the room. He tackles Dan. He like tackles me.
00:29:15
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:29:16
Felicia Devine
We're like roughhousing. But then I'm like, is that what's translating into the hitting? But like, how can I be so sure it's not?
00:29:22
Natalie Richards
I don't know. But I think it helps them so much to like decompress, actually sleep.
00:29:26
Felicia Devine
Decompress.
00:29:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Well, I don't know about that because we don't sleep.
00:29:30
Natalie Richards
Maybe.
00:29:31
Felicia Devine
We don't sleep. But he, so we'll be like full on. He'll be like running around the room, tackling wrestling.
00:29:38
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:29:38
Felicia Devine
And then in the flip of three minutes, we can put him in a sleep sack. I can start nursing him and he's fluttering off to sleep.
00:29:44
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:29:46
Natalie Richards
It's like part of his nighttime routine.
00:29:47
Felicia Devine
It's like, yeah, he like loves it
00:29:48
Natalie Richards
I know. Yeah.
00:29:50
Felicia Devine
But I just, I'm like, oh, are we creating like a demolition derby monster?
00:29:55
Natalie Richards
Well, so.
00:29:56
Felicia Devine
Well, I would never call him a monster. A demolition derby.
00:29:58
Natalie Richards
No.
00:30:00
Felicia Devine
i don't even know. Not a monster though.
00:30:03
Natalie Richards
No, I'm not also thinking of whatever word I'm trying to think of.
00:30:08
Felicia Devine
You get a break today, Natalie.
00:30:09
Natalie Richards
cannot. You do too. You don't sleep ever.
00:30:10
Felicia Devine
Wait, wait, tell me about, I've i've literally never slept.
00:30:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:30:17
Natalie Richards
That's how I felt for so long.
00:30:18
Natalie Richards
Seriously. for Until about six months ago.
00:30:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:21
Felicia Devine
I can't wait. You just wait until I get brain cells back.
00:30:24
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:30:26
Felicia Devine
I'm going to be on fire. wait, you have to tell me about Jean's tantrum.
00:30:29
Natalie Richards
Oh. Yes.
00:30:31
Felicia Devine
And also, was it related to Di? have a story about Di.
00:30:34
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:30:35
Felicia Devine
But tell me his tantrum and then we'll go back to Di.
00:30:36
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay. We'll get back to that. Okay. Gene has had – mean, he like sometimes has tantrums where he just is like, yeah you know, whatever.
00:30:45
Felicia Devine
Like emotions are too big.
00:30:45
Natalie Richards
Like if he doesn't – yeah, he doesn't get his way. He like needs a moment.
00:30:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:49
Natalie Richards
He never – you know how you see like kids breaking down in a grocery store or something and they're just losing their minds, like ah screaming on the floor, whatever.
00:30:59
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:30:59
Natalie Richards
He had never done that before. Yeah.
00:31:02
Felicia Devine
Until
Parenting Meltdowns and Boundaries
00:31:02
Felicia Devine
this day.
00:31:03
Natalie Richards
un Until, until, wait until you hear why. It's the funniest part.
00:31:09
Felicia Devine
No.
00:31:09
Natalie Richards
Okay. So we were in Target. but We were walking around. i don't do my grocery shopping at Target. Like that's not where I can buy like two things at Target that fall under my, under my guidelines of what I buy.
00:31:19
Felicia Devine
yeah Your guise of adequate. Yeah.
00:31:25
Natalie Richards
So I hardly buy anything there. So we're like going through buying other stuff
00:31:29
Felicia Devine
Is Jean, does Jean walk through the store with you or is he in a cart?
00:31:32
Natalie Richards
At this, it depends. This particular day he was walking but beside me, and which has never been a problem before until we're like going, i still look through the the food aisles at Target and we're like coming through the produce section and I go, oh no, we're going to the produce section.
00:31:34
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay.
00:31:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:31:40
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:31:49
Natalie Richards
Like all they have is non-organic produce. And I know he's going to see something. I knew this. I knew this before.
00:31:57
Felicia Devine
Not the candy aisle, the produce section.
00:31:59
Natalie Richards
Which is just so funny. The fact that this even happened is so funny.
00:32:02
Felicia Devine
You should have taken him through the candy aisle. He doesn't even know what that is.
00:32:05
Natalie Richards
He didn't even, he wouldn't care.
00:32:06
Felicia Devine
No.
00:32:06
Natalie Richards
wouldn't care. We're going by, he sees grapes and I go, oh no, not the grapes, not the grapes out of anything that you could pick up that are not, that are not organic.
00:32:08
Felicia Devine
Oh. no No. this heavily sprayed grapes.
00:32:19
Felicia Devine
The glyphosate is just a radiant glistening off of them.
00:32:19
Natalie Richards
The grapes.
00:32:23
Natalie Richards
Not the grapes. And I had it in my head. I was like, nope, I'm not buying non-organic grapes. I'm not doing it. I don't do it. I never have done it. I'm not going to do it.
00:32:32
Felicia Devine
We're not doing it.
00:32:33
Natalie Richards
We're not doing it. This is a rule in our house. I'm not doing it. When did I decide that that was going to be the rule that I was going to stick by?
00:32:38
Felicia Devine
That moment.
00:32:41
Felicia Devine
That very moment.
00:32:44
Natalie Richards
Because truthfully, if he would have picked candy, i probably would have bought it for him knowing he would take one bite of it and then I could throw it away and he would hate it.
00:32:50
Felicia Devine
I'd hate it. Yeah.
00:32:52
Natalie Richards
But I knew he was going to eat every single one of those grapes.
00:32:58
Natalie Richards
And I said, Jean, we do not buy organic grapes in our house. I'm so sorry. And like we can go to another store and get organic grapes. Okay. And he decided that that was going to be the day that he, he literally went, yeah.
00:33:15
Natalie Richards
It lays on his back. No, maybe it was like on his stomach, like literally pounding on the floor, like one of those moments. And the fact that if somebody asked me, what was your kid?
00:33:31
Felicia Devine
I won't buy my kid the grapes.
00:33:33
Natalie Richards
What was your kid melting down over? it was because I wouldn't buy him grapes. Yeah.
00:33:40
Natalie Richards
But i had just to I had to stand my ground.
00:33:43
Felicia Devine
Once you made that voice, yeah.
00:33:43
Natalie Richards
That was like, I made the choice. i was like, you know what? If I don't stick by this, then he's going to want this every single time.
00:33:48
Felicia Devine
You're going to run over.
00:33:51
Natalie Richards
it is, you know, like whatever.
00:33:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:52
Natalie Richards
I had to stand up for myself.
00:33:54
Felicia Devine
It's a boundary. That good firm.
00:33:57
Natalie Richards
It was just like, are you kidding me? It's so dumb.
00:33:59
Felicia Devine
No. How did you get him to recover?
00:34:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Barely. I mean, I had to like, holt picked him up, held him.
00:34:03
Felicia Devine
Did you just pick him up?
00:34:06
Natalie Richards
i mean, we like, it was it was like a 20 minute ordeal.
00:34:08
Felicia Devine
Talked through it.
00:34:11
Natalie Richards
It was, and we were like in the checkout line and I was holding him and he was like, Mama, I can't, want the grapes.
00:34:19
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:34:22
Natalie Richards
I'm like, I'm so sorry. I'm traumatizing you right now. But...
00:34:28
Felicia Devine
I honestly love that story.
00:34:31
Natalie Richards
it's It's like the best.
00:34:31
Felicia Devine
That's epic.
00:34:33
Natalie Richards
So that was like our our tantrum moment. And he like has certain ones sometimes, but nothing like that.
00:34:40
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:34:41
Natalie Richards
That was like the tantrum that I will never forget.
00:34:43
Felicia Devine
I love it. I love it. It's perfect. It's very Natalie coded. You're like, this is the hill we have chose.
00:34:50
Natalie Richards
It's...
00:34:52
Natalie Richards
in that
00:34:54
Felicia Devine
We will not move.
00:34:56
Natalie Richards
i am not compromising on this.
00:34:57
Felicia Devine
But i like I like your firmness in that because honestly, it would be so easy to just cave and be like, get the grapes.
00:35:04
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:35:05
Felicia Devine
And you were like, this, yeah.
00:35:05
Natalie Richards
And then it would happen every time with everything else. hu
00:35:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And then he would have glyphosate coursing his veins right now.
00:35:11
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:35:12
Felicia Devine
So good job. I approve.
00:35:14
Natalie Richards
Thank you. Thank you. The funny thing is like we don't eat entirely glyphosate free like in other ways.
00:35:22
Felicia Devine
Right, but it's the grapes.
00:35:23
Natalie Richards
It just was like It just was the principle. It just was too much for me that day.
00:35:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:29
Natalie Richards
I just was like, no, I can't.
00:35:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:31
Natalie Richards
ah ah He probably already got a car from the toy department. Like he he was living his life.
00:35:34
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:35:36
Natalie Richards
Like he, this kid gets a car every time we go to Target.
00:35:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. He's well fed.
00:35:39
Natalie Richards
Like he doesn't hear the word no.
00:35:42
Felicia Devine
hu Until he asks for grapes.
00:35:46
Natalie Richards
There we go.
00:35:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:48
Natalie Richards
Okay. You had a die story
00:35:49
Felicia Devine
I love it. guess This happened in the past 24 hours and I'm
00:35:53
Natalie Richards
with Sepp.
00:35:54
Felicia Devine
I'm trying to recover. Well, I don't know.
00:35:56
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:35:58
Felicia Devine
I need to source your information, your knowledge that you probably don't have in your brain right now, but we'll try.
00:36:00
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:36:03
Natalie Richards
Okay. We'll try.
00:36:05
Felicia Devine
So yesterday we went to a music fest, like arts fair, something or other. i and they had like food trucks and vendors and whatever.
00:36:15
Felicia Devine
So we brought the kids to lunch. We took my brother's, baby with us and we like had our little picnic lunch.
00:36:20
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:36:23
Felicia Devine
Like the kids had the food that we brought with them. Danny got a beer and I was like, Ooh, I could really go for a lemon, Italian ice Rita's.
00:36:34
Natalie Richards
Oh, yep.
00:36:36
Felicia Devine
Do you guys have Rita's?
00:36:37
Natalie Richards
No, but I...
00:36:39
Felicia Devine
Yuck. Anyway, a lemon, lemon ice, whatever that is, sounded appetizing.
00:36:46
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:36:47
Felicia Devine
So I say, Dan, can I get a lemon ice? He goes, okay. So I'm watching the kids. I look back. Sure enough, Dan's walking back with a ah ah electric blue, electric blue ice.
00:36:57
Natalie Richards
Of course. Of course. Of course.
00:37:01
Felicia Devine
And he panic bought because he's like, they only need three flavors and one was red.
00:37:04
Natalie Richards
oh
00:37:05
Felicia Devine
He knew i I would have actually, yeah i would have drop kicked the red.
00:37:07
Natalie Richards
knew red was a no oh fine yes okay
00:37:10
Felicia Devine
So he knew red was a no, but he didn't want to come back empty handed. So he just chose the blue, which like I commend him for just like, Just saying like, well, this is the best we have. Okay.
00:37:21
Felicia Devine
So I was like, well, I really wanted an Italian ice. So I'll like try a couple bites. So i probably, and I'm not even kidding you. They like kind of cup it, dome it over the the lip of the cup.
00:37:29
Natalie Richards
uh-huh uh-huh
00:37:31
Felicia Devine
I didn't even eat enough bites of this thing to break even.
00:37:34
Natalie Richards
Oh, it like makes me want to throw up just thinking about it.
00:37:35
Felicia Devine
I know. I know.
00:37:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:37:37
Felicia Devine
it was It was not good. Okay.
00:37:39
Natalie Richards
oh
00:37:40
Felicia Devine
So we throw it away. Dan and I both like were not into it. We're like, that no, we're not eating it. So this was like early afternoon, like very early afternoon, probably noon.
00:37:51
Felicia Devine
And we go back to the house. I nurse Seppie. We move on with our day. And we had both agreed like he napped early. Let's just have him take like a chest nap or like just like lights out, like calm time, because he's only on one nap.
00:38:03
Natalie Richards
yeah Yeah.
00:38:06
Felicia Devine
I went and laid down and Dan went and did whatever they did. And it, he was a psycho. Okay. He didn't put one touch of the blue to his lips.
00:38:18
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:38:20
Felicia Devine
He was crazy yesterday, Natalie. Like the lights, the lights weren't working.
00:38:25
Natalie Richards
I wonder. i i don't know the answer to whether it transfers. I do know that it screws with your gut bacteria, which then can cause all kinds of weird – should we ask chat to GPT?
00:38:36
Felicia Devine
But could it be that quickly? Like he was crazy yesterday. Like he was, we should, he was doing things that I was like, what is like, he, it was as if he wasn't making a single logical and he was crying.
00:38:47
Natalie Richards
Where it's like, oh my God, you are ah demon. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:52
Felicia Devine
He was just,
00:38:53
Natalie Richards
Sounds like a, it sounds like a die reaction.
00:38:56
Felicia Devine
it was dive, a dive reaction. It was crazy. And it was only, i only ate like five bites of it. If that,
00:39:04
Natalie Richards
I am so interested now because I don't know the answer to this.
00:39:06
Felicia Devine
I know. And today, different kid.
00:39:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Where it's like absolutely noticeable.
00:39:14
Felicia Devine
Because Dan and I don't really eat dyes. And I'm like, Dan, I wonder if we can like track anything with like, if he has like one of these days where he's like crazy to me eating dye.
00:39:25
Felicia Devine
Cause the only thing consistent is that if, cause I'm nursing and he's never had processed food in his life.
00:39:25
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:39:28
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:39:32
Felicia Devine
So I'm like,
00:39:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah, there was...
00:39:34
Felicia Devine
The only way he could consume anything like that is through my milk.
00:39:38
Natalie Richards
Yes. Oh, my God.
00:39:40
Felicia Devine
I'm so fascinated. What'd you find? Let's see.
00:39:46
Natalie Richards
so
00:39:48
Felicia Devine
do you have to go on like the dark web to Google that?
00:39:49
Natalie Richards
didn
00:39:50
Felicia Devine
Because like,
00:39:51
Natalie Richards
Probably because i don't know that you'd be able to get the real answer. Blue three
00:39:54
Felicia Devine
does blue what's the blue dye called? Blue dye
00:40:01
Natalie Richards
blue. don't know. three
00:40:07
Felicia Devine
Well, I'll just say blue.
00:40:08
Natalie Richards
i don't know
00:40:09
Felicia Devine
Cross the breast.
00:40:14
Natalie Richards
It's kind of like unknown is what I'm coming across right now. The full intact dye molecules don't up appear to cross.
00:40:20
Felicia Devine
oh
00:40:24
Natalie Richards
What is yours saying?
00:40:26
Felicia Devine
It does say that blue can pass into breast milk.
00:40:29
Natalie Richards
Really? Blue specifically?
00:40:30
Felicia Devine
I don't know about, well, it just says artificial blue can pass into the breast milk, sometimes giving it a green tint when combined with other factors.
00:40:33
Natalie Richards
oh
00:40:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah, because I've seen things like that before where people will have like literal blue breast milk.
00:40:41
Felicia Devine
Yes. Well, sometimes my blue breast milk is when he's sick.
00:40:45
Natalie Richards
It's from something else. Yeah. But.
00:40:46
Felicia Devine
But the extent and effects of these dyes on infants are still being studied. Yeah.
00:40:50
Natalie Richards
Oh, my word.
00:40:53
Felicia Devine
It is recommended that mothers monitor and avoid excessive consumption of food dye.
00:40:54
Natalie Richards
i mean, I would say.
00:40:58
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:40:59
Felicia Devine
oh Artificial blue and green in foods and drinks can transfer into breast milk and change its color. Therefore, Giuseppe had blue dye yesterday and was a Looney Tune.
00:41:07
Natalie Richards
my
00:41:11
Natalie Richards
Oh my goodness. Well, I'd say that's a pretty good, good reason to never feed him anything.
00:41:13
Felicia Devine
Crazy.
00:41:20
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. So he's allergic.
00:41:21
Natalie Richards
but
00:41:22
Felicia Devine
We just to start determined he's allergic.
00:41:24
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. And that's just blue. And that gene does definitely, he has a definite reaction to blue and a definite reaction to red
00:41:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:34
Natalie Richards
He has had like a yellow – had like like on a snow cone at the 4th of July last year, he had like a half of a pump of green in the whole ah ah you And I'm like, ah whatever.
00:41:49
Felicia Devine
You're like one drop.
00:41:51
Natalie Richards
Okay. So like the yellowish, he was he seemed okay.
00:41:52
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:41:56
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:41:57
Natalie Richards
ah ah Not like – not insane.
00:41:59
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. I'm like triggered.
00:42:01
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. Isn't that crazy?
00:42:03
Felicia Devine
You know what? One of my guilty pleasures is too, which I, and it's not always I indulge, but I love nerd clusters.
00:42:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
00:42:13
Felicia Devine
So good. Yeah.
00:42:15
Natalie Richards
Gosh dang.
00:42:16
Felicia Devine
I know. So i I really have to stay away from those now that I'm like suspicious that the dye is a problem.
00:42:20
Natalie Richards
Okay. I really am like loving the sour giggles. the yeah
00:42:27
Felicia Devine
What?
00:42:28
Natalie Richards
The yum earth.
00:42:29
Felicia Devine
Oh, yes.
00:42:29
Natalie Richards
They're like the, yes, they're sour Skittles, but they're called giggles.
00:42:30
Felicia Devine
They're like sour Skittles, but they're called giggles.
00:42:34
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:42:36
Felicia Devine
Yum.
00:42:36
Natalie Richards
And they're so good. And even Kyle likes them, which is – and also we – last night for our s'mores, we were using the Dandy's marshmallows, which are dye-free.
00:42:38
Felicia Devine
Ooh. Okay. Yeah.
00:42:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:48
Felicia Devine
Okay. Those are dye free. yes
00:42:50
Natalie Richards
And Kyle tasted one. He goes, these are really good. i go, yeah, well, they're the healthy ones. He goes, you don't have to tell me that. But he's like, they they really are good.
00:42:58
Felicia Devine
Don't spoil this for me.
00:42:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:02
Natalie Richards
So that's how I know that they're good is, is, is because usually he'll try something and be like, yeah, this is good.
00:43:02
Felicia Devine
Don't ruin this moment, Natalie.
00:43:08
Natalie Richards
And I'll tell him like, oh, well, it's, there's, you know, there's, so and he goes, I don't like it anymore.
00:43:10
Felicia Devine
There's liver in it and he'll go.
00:43:14
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:43:15
Natalie Richards
Well, you just liked it two seconds ago.
00:43:18
Felicia Devine
When I make taco meat, I'll put liver in it and I just won't tell Dan.
00:43:21
Natalie Richards
Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:43:22
Felicia Devine
Because I feel like when you know something's in there that you are just like a little bit icked out by, it does change the taste.
00:43:23
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:43:29
Felicia Devine
So like if he doesn't know there's liver in it, then it can't hurt him.
00:43:31
Natalie Richards
Yep. I can't tell him and I can't tell Kyle half of the things that I put in his food.
00:43:39
Felicia Devine
Now, Kyle wasn't any bit crunchy when you met him, was he?
00:43:43
Natalie Richards
No. Oh my goodness, no.
00:43:44
Felicia Devine
Mm-mm.
00:43:45
Natalie Richards
Like this guy was drinking Red Bull vodkas like they were going out of style. He was eating at all the... All the bar, like the little country bars around us.
00:43:57
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yeah.
00:43:58
Natalie Richards
He had, oh my gosh, I'm trying to remember back to what he had in his fridge when
Embracing Natural Lifestyles
00:44:02
Natalie Richards
I first met him.
00:44:03
Felicia Devine
Wait, he used to like meal prep for the whole week, right?
00:44:04
Natalie Richards
yeah had He would, and it would be straight up just like ground beef, just plain and noodle.
00:44:06
Felicia Devine
Like one pot.
00:44:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And noodles or something.
00:44:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Like nu and rice maybe.
00:44:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:15
Natalie Richards
He had minute brown rice in his cabinet.
00:44:17
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:44:18
Natalie Richards
He had bisquick, milk,
00:44:23
Felicia Devine
What would he do with the Bisquick?
00:44:24
Natalie Richards
That might be it. He would make pancakes.
00:44:25
Felicia Devine
Like pancakes?
00:44:28
Natalie Richards
He came back when one time from being out and here he like made pancakes. ah ah I remember this story. It was right when I first met him. He like sent me a picture of it the next day because he like made pancakes and instead of cleaning the pan and the and putting away everything, he threw everything in the garbage.
00:44:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:44:49
Felicia Devine
no
00:44:51
Felicia Devine
What? What?
00:44:54
Natalie Richards
So he woke up the next day and he was like, where did all this stuff go?
00:44:59
Felicia Devine
Oh, because he was drunk.
00:45:01
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:45:01
Felicia Devine
Oh, I thought it was because he was like, I don't clean dishes. What is this? Did he take them out of the trash can?
00:45:07
Natalie Richards
I don't remember. They were Teflon fans anyway, so they've gone.
00:45:10
Felicia Devine
Oh, they've they're gone.
00:45:11
Natalie Richards
They're like, they have since way gone out the window.
00:45:15
Felicia Devine
You're like, if he didn't throw them away, I would have.
00:45:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:18
Felicia Devine
Oh, I'm dead. That's so funny.
00:45:22
Natalie Richards
He was not in the least bit crunchy. here But in some ways he was, which is kind of funny.
00:45:28
Felicia Devine
He was open.
00:45:29
Natalie Richards
Like he was very open.
00:45:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:33
Natalie Richards
Well, we'll get into this a little bit. when we first When I first met Kyle, it was like 2021.
00:45:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:41
Natalie Richards
So it was like the height of COVID and like and vaccines and like all this stuff.
00:45:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:48
Natalie Richards
So that was something where I was very adamant that that was not something I was doing.
00:45:52
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:45:55
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:45:56
Natalie Richards
And he also had that view. And truthfully, I would have never, I would never have dated him if he...
00:45:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:02
Felicia Devine
Move forward. Yeah.
00:46:04
Natalie Richards
that sounds insane to say,
00:46:07
Felicia Devine
I think there's like now dating apps like that are for people that are that direction.
00:46:10
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes. Yes. There were like – I'm trying to remember. when When we met, we were both on Hinge. That's how we met.
00:46:21
Natalie Richards
And there were like little things that you could like put about yourself that would be like – yeah, yeah.
00:46:25
Felicia Devine
Or like emojis or something. Yeah.
00:46:27
Natalie Richards
Or like there was there was like religion and like politics and all that stuff that you could put on if it was –
00:46:35
Felicia Devine
like freedom, freedom seeker.
00:46:36
Natalie Richards
and so it
00:46:39
Felicia Devine
Kyle's like, that's my wife. Okay. Kyle does not speak like that. I'm so sorry, Kyle.
00:46:44
Natalie Richards
No, he really doesn't. He really doesn't.
00:46:46
Felicia Devine
So sorry.
00:46:48
Natalie Richards
and So
00:46:48
Felicia Devine
He actually, one of the most endearing things and I love about Kyle is that he calls you boss.
00:46:53
Natalie Richards
he does.
00:46:54
Felicia Devine
And I love that about him.
00:46:55
Natalie Richards
He does. He knows.
00:46:57
Felicia Devine
He knows Natalie is boss. He goes, yes, boss. I'll let boss decide.
00:47:01
Natalie Richards
and he pretty much knows that like
00:47:02
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:47:04
Felicia Devine
and it's so cute.
00:47:06
Natalie Richards
all he goes, let me check with my scheduling department.
00:47:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:10
Felicia Devine
That's an HR problem.
00:47:11
Natalie Richards
well Let me talk to the boss.
00:47:14
Natalie Richards
And that is pretty much, pretty much how it is.
00:47:15
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. It's pretty accurate.
00:47:18
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:47:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. That's how should be.
00:47:19
Natalie Richards
He knows. He knows how it is.
00:47:22
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. That's funny. All that to say, Dan also didn't like inherently grow up. I should say crunchy.
00:47:29
Natalie Richards
No, but he has definitely adapted a lot of things.
00:47:30
Felicia Devine
No. I mean like,
00:47:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Like my man, he'll go to a grocery store and he won't buy inorganic.
00:47:38
Natalie Richards
That's amazing.
00:47:39
Felicia Devine
Like he knows, he knows the schedule. Yeah. I'm trying to think like what other huge shift I've noticed in Dan. I mean, what's so cool.
00:47:50
Felicia Devine
And i I honestly like didn't ever expect this out of Dan or like I never pushed this on Dan. But like we've had certain instances when like Sep has been like spiking a high fever or something in the middle of the night.
00:48:01
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:48:02
Felicia Devine
And I'll be like doing something. And Dan's like, I think you should adjust him.
00:48:07
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:48:08
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry, what, sir?
00:48:09
Natalie Richards
Oh, isn't that something?
00:48:10
Felicia Devine
What did you say? I'm like, that's Dan's first line of defense. I think you should adjust him.
00:48:15
Natalie Richards
That's amazing.
00:48:16
Felicia Devine
I know. So I'm like, it clicks for Dan. Like he gets it.
00:48:19
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:48:21
Felicia Devine
It's just like, it's so crazy.
00:48:22
Natalie Richards
Kyle's coming around. He gets really – Kyle has a lot of ailments, let's just say.
00:48:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:29
Natalie Richards
Kyle is my most screwed up patient by far, by a landslide.
00:48:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:48:35
Natalie Richards
He is the most difficult one who's had the most injuries
00:48:39
Felicia Devine
He's had the most trauma.
00:48:40
Natalie Richards
And most trauma. Absolutely. So he gets really, like he's had so many TBIs, like it's unbelievable. So every time there's a storm that comes, he feels like his eyes are about to pop out of his out of their sockets.
00:48:48
Felicia Devine
and
00:48:53
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:48:54
Natalie Richards
Whenever there's like a pressure change and he gets really bad headaches.
00:48:56
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:48:57
Natalie Richards
So the other day he goes, can I have one of your like witch doctor pillets?
00:48:57
Felicia Devine
oh
00:49:02
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:49:04
Felicia Devine
Homeopathy for those of you that don't speak that.
00:49:09
Natalie Richards
And I'm like, oh, perfect. He must have recognized that it worked last time.
00:49:11
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
00:49:13
Natalie Richards
he was So I was like, okay, let me figure out which one I gave you last time because I don't remember because you didn't tell me that it helped.
00:49:14
Felicia Devine
I love that.
00:49:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. You didn't write it down. so you're like, I hope this pellet was the one. um God.
00:49:25
Felicia Devine
Do you do, it do you do mostly pellets?
00:49:25
Natalie Richards
it was so cute.
00:49:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah, mostly pellets just because it's easy.
00:49:28
Felicia Devine
Oh, I do a lot of the liquid dosing.
00:49:30
Natalie Richards
The water. Yeah, I think the water dosing is great for kids.
00:49:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:34
Natalie Richards
Even I should probably do that for myself.
00:49:35
Felicia Devine
It's also good for husbands.
00:49:37
Natalie Richards
True.
00:49:38
Felicia Devine
I just mix something up and I say, drink this.
00:49:39
Natalie Richards
Here, take it.
00:49:41
Felicia Devine
But like Dan will ask for it sometimes too. Like he knows.
00:49:43
Natalie Richards
It's so funny. I think our bodies know that it works.
00:49:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah. It helps. Yeah.
00:49:47
Natalie Richards
hu
00:49:47
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. That is, that is lovely.
00:49:50
Natalie Richards
He's coming around.
00:49:50
Felicia Devine
Those witch doctor pellets.
00:49:55
Felicia Devine
I love it. Oh my gosh.
00:49:57
Natalie Richards
But whatever.
00:49:59
Felicia Devine
Okay. Well, that was, that was lovely.
00:50:01
Natalie Richards
That was. ah think we've made it.
00:50:03
Felicia Devine
I think we connected enough brain cells to make this episode make sense.
00:50:07
Natalie Richards
Yes, that was funny.
00:50:08
Felicia Devine
Thank you. Thank you for joining us on episode, is it nine?
00:50:12
Natalie Richards
Nine. Yeah.
00:50:13
Felicia Devine
Yay.
00:50:14
Natalie Richards
Wow. Next one is a milestone.
00:50:16
Felicia Devine
okay We'll do something fun for episode 10. Maybe we'll bring back the but little game of the rating because people seem to like that.
00:50:21
Natalie Richards
The rating.
00:50:25
Felicia Devine
if you have anything that you would like us to rate, shoot us a message.
00:50:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah. We were thinking like rating parenting techniques, rating parenting styles, rating parenting choices.
00:50:33
Felicia Devine
styles choices
00:50:39
Natalie Richards
I would love to hear what all of you are interested in hearing our opinions about.
00:50:46
Felicia Devine
so if you have something you want us to rate shoot us over i guess it's really like there's no categories just like all things like parenting child mother whatever yeah so episode 10 will be off the rails
00:50:52
Natalie Richards
No, it could be anything. Yeah. Yeah. Any little topic that we can talk about.
00:51:03
Natalie Richards
always. Bye.
00:51:06
Felicia Devine
Bye.