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S2.Ep6 - Chit Chatting About Preparing for Pregnancy in Trimester Zero
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Welcome back to Episode Six — where we immediately panic about the episode number, admit weekly podcasting might be mandatory, and then spiral into everything from hair MLM experiments to pregnancy preparation no one is actually talking about.
In this episode, we cover:
- Natalie’s honest Monat hair review (spoiler: some hits, some absolute no’s, and a scent situation)
- The shocking realization that Whole Foods is no longer “Whole Paycheck” — and might actually save you money
- A heated debate on whether $13 tortilla chips are ever justified (and which flavors are illegal)
- Why Costco is never a “quick stop” and always a $600 lifestyle choice
- Felicia’s ski trip cancellation thanks to her dog’s FIFTH bowel obstruction surgery (because… of course)
- Life without gel nails, chemical detox spirals, and the 43 hours a year we sacrifice for manicures
- Why your liver is doing the most (and how it affects hormones, energy, pregnancy, and literally everything)
- The concept of “Trimester Zero” — why pre-pregnancy is the most important phase no one prepares for
- Vegan → animal-based transitions, mineral depletion, and why nourishment matters more than “clean eating”
- Placenta health, protein sourcing, and why pregnancy symptoms don’t come out of nowhere
- Movement, stress, Oura Ring call-outs, and why Pilates is back on the menu
- And a teaser for next week’s episode: Reiki, intuition, and connecting with future babies 👀✨
This episode is equal parts educational, chaotic, heartfelt, and wildly relatable — especially if you’re a mom, a practitioner, trying to conceive, or just wondering why you’re exhausted despite “doing all the right things.”
* Midwife Lindsey Meehleis and Dr. Paul Saladino on Nourished documentary to see the difference between placenta health
* Dr. Mimi McParland - fertility expert
* Fullscript supplements we mentioned - Designs for Health Hepatatone Plus, DFH Organ Synergy, BodyBio PC or Seeking Health PC (phospolipid complex), DFH Probiospore, DFH ADK Evail fat soluble vitamin complex, Gaia Pro Vitex: Progesterone Support
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Early Technical Confusion
00:00:50
Felicia Devine
Hello and welcome back to episode six. six
00:00:56
Felicia Devine
I just panicked. I couldn't find where on the screen it said the episode. It's episode six. Welcome back.
00:01:01
Natalie Richards
Welcome. Welcome. It's great to be here.
00:01:04
Felicia Devine
That was my first fumble.
00:01:06
Natalie Richards
i feel like we have to do the weekly again.
00:01:09
Felicia Devine
i know. I know.
00:01:10
Natalie Richards
It's just I have too many things to talk to you about.
00:01:13
Felicia Devine
Well, we just said, oh, what do we want to talk about? We have 40 things.
00:01:14
Natalie Richards
It's not like we can't call each other on the phone.
00:01:16
Felicia Devine
No, we have to save it for the pod.
00:01:19
Natalie Richards
but If we say we're going to call each other on the phone, it doesn't happen.
00:01:20
Felicia Devine
I was even asking.
00:01:23
Natalie Richards
All right.
00:01:23
Felicia Devine
doesn't happen. And if it's not recorded, it doesn't count. Right before we started filming, I was like, Natalie, what are you
Beverage Preferences: Tea vs Espresso
00:01:28
Felicia Devine
drinking? And I was like, save it for the pod.
00:01:30
Natalie Richards
Save it.
00:01:31
Felicia Devine
All right.
00:01:31
Natalie Richards
Save it. Don't say anything funny until we start.
00:01:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Don't tell me any funny story. What are you drinking, Nat?
00:01:37
Natalie Richards
Today I'm drinking one of the reishi elderberry teas. It's really good.
00:01:43
Felicia Devine
Oh, it's pretty. It's like so pretty.
00:01:44
Natalie Richards
Reishi is like beautiful tea and their tea bags are gorgeous. They're not plastic.
00:01:49
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:01:49
Natalie Richards
They're made from plants. Gene's yelling at me for some. Gene has the run of the house today. He is playing in the sink currently and I don't care.
00:01:56
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:02:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:02:02
Natalie Richards
So yeah, it's like a beautiful pink, beautiful pink tea.
00:02:05
Felicia Devine
It's gorgeous.
00:02:06
Natalie Richards
I drank it the other day at this coffee shop near us and I was like, oh, I have a box of that at home that I never drink. So might as well.
00:02:12
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:02:13
Natalie Richards
And it's very good. has like a little hint of ginger in it, little licorice.
00:02:15
Felicia Devine
I like it. Mm.
00:02:19
Natalie Richards
What's the other thing? Hibiscus.
00:02:21
Felicia Devine
Oh, I love a hibiscus.
00:02:21
Natalie Richards
It's very good. It's very good.
00:02:22
Felicia Devine
That's probably why it's so red.
00:02:23
Natalie Richards
That's why it's pink. Yeah.
00:02:25
Natalie Richards
What are you drinking?
00:02:27
Felicia Devine
Well, I'm just drinking a basic espresso with cream.
00:02:29
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:02:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:02:30
Natalie Richards
Perfect.
00:02:31
Natalie Richards
Perfect.
00:02:31
Felicia Devine
This is like the latest we've probably ever podcasted.
00:02:34
Felicia Devine
And i always have a coffee when we podcast. And I'm like, oh, is this a bad idea? Maybe. It's three o'clock in afternoon.
00:02:39
Natalie Richards
Oh, boy.
00:02:41
Felicia Devine
But.
00:02:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah, I know.
00:02:41
Natalie Richards
Seriously, I know we're a little later than we usually are, but you'll survive.
00:02:45
Natalie Richards
Maybe. It's fine.
00:02:46
Felicia Devine
And it's the weekend, so it really like doesn't matter if I stay up a little later.
00:02:48
Natalie Richards
It's fine.
00:02:49
Felicia Devine
But anyway, so, okay.
00:02:50
Natalie Richards
it's fine
00:02:53
Natalie Richards
We have like some housekeeping things just to like brush up on and then we're going to dive in
00:02:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
Monet Hair Products Experience
00:02:59
Felicia Devine
have to circle back to a few things. Okay, so first circle back and longest standing circle back is Natalie's hair journey.
00:03:01
Natalie Richards
We do.
00:03:07
Natalie Richards
It's true.
00:03:07
Felicia Devine
Let's tell let's tell the people, Nat. Okay, tell me because I don't know.
00:03:09
Natalie Richards
Well, it I know.
00:03:11
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:03:12
Natalie Richards
Okay. There's a lot of things to unpack here. I did receive my Monet, Monat, Monat, Monat package.
00:03:16
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:03:22
Felicia Devine
Well, what do you call the champagne?
00:03:26
Natalie Richards
Moet.
00:03:27
Felicia Devine
Oh, it's not that then.
00:03:29
Natalie Richards
No, but it's got to be Monet because why would it be called Monat?
00:03:29
Felicia Devine
Cause I was going say Monet is like the champagne, but it's different. I don't, who the heck, who would call it Monet? That's ugly.
00:03:38
Natalie Richards
That's the worst name I've ever heard.
00:03:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Monet. Monet.
00:03:43
Natalie Richards
So I received the package.
00:03:45
Felicia Devine
Okay. wait Do you feel comfortable sharing how much you spent?
00:03:48
Natalie Richards
Sure. I mean, i I signed up for like their, they're I don't know what you even call it.
00:03:55
Felicia Devine
Subscription?
00:03:56
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:03:56
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:03:56
Natalie Richards
Like to be like one of their partners or whatever, but I'm not.
00:03:58
Felicia Devine
No, you're selling it. You're selling it. Natalie's selling Monet.
00:04:01
Natalie Richards
But here's why. Because January, then they give $150 to like voucher. paid $160 maybe. And then they give to start. And then they give you $150 more whatever want in January.
00:04:09
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:04:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:04:12
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:04:13
Natalie Richards
to start and then they give you a hundred and fifty dollars more to do whatever you want with in january
00:04:17
Felicia Devine
dabble. Could you use it at that first order?
00:04:20
Natalie Richards
No.
00:04:21
Felicia Devine
Oh, that's the trap.
00:04:21
Natalie Richards
No. so you had so So it's the trap. but So I got at least the shampoo, the conditioner, a scalp scrub, blowout cream, split end mender.
00:04:35
Felicia Devine
Oh, I've heard of that.
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Natalie Richards
detangler.
00:04:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:04:37
Natalie Richards
and then with the with the voucher, i got hair oil,
00:04:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
Whole Foods vs Other Grocery Stores
00:04:41
Natalie Richards
which I actually would do actually, that might be the only product I really, really like.
00:04:46
Felicia Devine
okay
00:04:48
Natalie Richards
Spoiler alert.
00:04:49
Felicia Devine
For a girl that doesn't like to wash her hair, I'm not surprised.
00:04:51
Natalie Richards
you know I know, know. I've been washing it more just so I can get to a get the real feel about what these things are.
00:04:55
Felicia Devine
Use it
00:04:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:05:00
Natalie Richards
What else did I get? Oh, a dry texture spray, which I actually will use.
00:05:05
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:05:06
Natalie Richards
Here's the thing.
00:05:07
Felicia Devine
Tell us.
00:05:09
Natalie Richards
I can't stand the smell of half of them.
00:05:13
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:05:14
Natalie Richards
It's too much.
00:05:15
Felicia Devine
Oh, it's too potent.
00:05:15
Natalie Richards
I really... It's not even that it's bad. It's just like... so much smell. And it's just like a lot.
00:05:23
Felicia Devine
Do they all smell the same?
00:05:24
Natalie Richards
Half, no, half of them are perfectly wonderful.
00:05:24
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:05:27
Natalie Richards
And then half of them are horrendous.
00:05:29
Felicia Devine
Oh, no.
00:05:30
Natalie Richards
And they all, the horrendous ones all smell vaguely the same.
00:05:36
Felicia Devine
floral or like masculine or?
00:05:38
Natalie Richards
Oh, it's not masculine. It's not floral. It doesn't smell luxurious. It smells a little cheap. That's just my take.
00:05:49
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:05:49
Natalie Richards
But can I get over it? And does it the smell go away? Yes. Like it's not like I'm smelling it on my hair for the next week.
00:05:54
Felicia Devine
Okay. Oh, yeah.
00:05:57
Natalie Richards
Like for the most part, it Yeah, I don't smell it on my hair.
00:06:01
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:06:03
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:06:03
Felicia Devine
That's good.
00:06:04
Natalie Richards
So, okay. So this shampoo is fine. It works fine.
00:06:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:08
Natalie Richards
Conditioner works fine. I think the detanglers trash the...
00:06:15
Felicia Devine
Have you tried that on Jean or will you not?
00:06:17
Natalie Richards
No, because it I
The Worth of Expensive Masa Chips
00:06:19
Felicia Devine
Too much.
00:06:19
Natalie Richards
love the Honest one.
00:06:20
Natalie Richards
The Honest detangler works so well on him.
00:06:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay.
00:06:23
Natalie Richards
When I put it on my hair, it does nothing. like I love Divi detangler.
00:06:27
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:06:30
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:06:31
Natalie Richards
It's like a spray.
00:06:32
Felicia Devine
Is that clean?
00:06:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah, Divi's pretty clean.
00:06:33
Felicia Devine
Or no? Okay.
00:06:35
Natalie Richards
Divi's pretty good. I love that one. It smells like peppermint and it's like very subtle and it's a spray.
00:06:37
Felicia Devine
Okay. Can
00:06:43
Natalie Richards
i think it has a... has a
00:06:47
Felicia Devine
you protect it?
00:06:47
Natalie Richards
what am i yeah What am I saying? Yeah, a heat protectant. It has a heat protectant in it. And I love that one because it actually helps you brush your hair out after you shower.
00:06:50
Felicia Devine
Oh. Okay. Yeah.
00:06:54
Natalie Richards
Because we have like I have like a curly texture, so I need like something.
00:06:55
Felicia Devine
You and I have textured hair. Yeah.
00:06:59
Natalie Richards
So the detangling spray does literally nothing. The blowout cream seems fine.
00:07:04
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:07:06
Natalie Richards
I think it gives probably a little too much... Too much like, yeah, not even structure, too much like product buildup.
00:07:10
Felicia Devine
Structure.
00:07:15
Felicia Devine
i don't i don't like product.
00:07:15
Natalie Richards
You know, i don't like that. I like it to just be my hair.
00:07:17
Felicia Devine
I don't like, yeah.
00:07:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:07:19
Felicia Devine
I don't even like body lotion, to be honest with you.
00:07:21
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:07:21
Felicia Devine
I don't like product.
00:07:22
Natalie Richards
So I think I like the split end mender. I actually have noticed that that that works really well.
00:07:26
Felicia Devine
Okay. I've heard that's their like most famous product anyway.
00:07:30
Natalie Richards
I got, and then the hair oil, I actually really do like. I really do like that.
00:07:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:36
Natalie Richards
There's just, I'm very on the fence on whether I like it. a whole, no am I selling it?
00:07:43
Felicia Devine
I like the honesty.
00:07:44
Natalie Richards
No.
00:07:46
Felicia Devine
Well, you're also not selling it as a as a consumer.
00:07:46
Natalie Richards
oh will
00:07:50
Felicia Devine
Like you're not doing a great job of pitching it.
00:07:51
Natalie Richards
I know this is the review is not pitch not pitching well.
00:07:54
Felicia Devine
If you were to give it out of five stars, what would you give it?
00:07:58
Natalie Richards
Three and a half out of five.
00:07:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. That's what I was thinking okay you were going to say.
00:08:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:08:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Like you'll use it, but it's not your favorite thing you've ever used.
00:08:03
Natalie Richards
I will use it and I will finish the products, but i don't know.
00:08:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:07
Natalie Richards
if Maybe I'll rebuy a couple of things, but like, I love the texture of the hair, like the spray, the texture spray, love the texture.
00:08:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:12
Felicia Devine
okay Yeah. Okay.
00:08:16
Natalie Richards
The smell is so bad that I do i will not rebuy that.
00:08:18
Felicia Devine
Oh, the smell on that one's terrible. oh
00:08:21
Natalie Richards
i will rebuy the oil because I like it. It's kind of similar to the Olaplex oil.
00:08:26
Felicia Devine
Okay. I've never used Olaplex.
00:08:29
Natalie Richards
i like it. I feel like it helps repair my my blonde damage.
00:08:31
Felicia Devine
It's famous. Why did I say it's famous?
00:08:35
Natalie Richards
It is famous. It's culty. Mm-hmm.
00:08:37
Felicia Devine
I was going to say, it's like it's like popular. That's what I meant to say. Yeah, this brand is so famous.
00:08:43
Natalie Richards
but Oh, Flex is famous. Yeah. So there's like things that maybe I'll keep. There's no way that I'm going to be a longevity user in this company.
00:08:50
Felicia Devine
Re-upping everything. Yeah.
00:08:53
Natalie Richards
And I just cut off like four inches of my hair the other day.
00:08:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:56
Felicia Devine
I love it. It's a great length.
00:08:57
Natalie Richards
i just
Dog Surgery Update
00:08:59
Natalie Richards
said, i'm going to chop it. And I chopped it.
00:09:01
Felicia Devine
I love it.
00:09:02
Natalie Richards
And Jean goes, mama, what are you doing?
00:09:05
Felicia Devine
Oh, you're like, mommy's cutting off the old.
00:09:07
Natalie Richards
don't worry. It's fine.
00:09:08
Felicia Devine
It's fine.
00:09:09
Natalie Richards
It's fine. And I like it. I think it's cute.
00:09:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No, it's a good length for you.
00:09:12
Natalie Richards
so that's that. What's my other update?
00:09:13
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:09:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, I did. I do have an update. Okay.
00:09:18
Felicia Devine
Oh, give it to me.
00:09:19
Natalie Richards
So I go and get adjusted in Elgin, which is like an hour from my house.
00:09:25
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:09:25
Natalie Richards
It's in like near the suburbs of Chicago. Elgin is still, it's like still an outskirt, but it's, I guess it's kind of considered a suburb.
00:09:34
Felicia Devine
Chicago-y.
00:09:34
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It's a Chicago suburb. And i said, I was in there and I was like, hmm, I'm going to go to Whole Foods after I get adjusted because why not?
00:09:45
Natalie Richards
I'm here. and it's kind of like on the loop on my way back home.
00:09:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:48
Felicia Devine
my Okay.
00:09:50
Natalie Richards
So I said, okay, I'm just going to go in. I haven't been in a Whole Foods in truthfully many years, i think.
00:09:56
Felicia Devine
I don't know if I've ever shopped at Whole Foods.
00:09:58
Natalie Richards
it's It's quite, well, this is, here's my here's my take.
00:09:59
Felicia Devine
Is it out of budget? Yeah.
00:10:03
Felicia Devine
Oh, I'm like, I don't know if I could afford Whole Foods, but.
00:10:07
Natalie Richards
In my mind, I'm like, oh, Whole Foods is so bougie. It's so expensive.
00:10:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:12
Natalie Richards
i go in this place and I'm like, wait, all this stuff is yeah equal or less than the organic products I'm buying at four other different stores that I have to go to in order to get all the things that I need.
00:10:23
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:10:26
Felicia Devine
Right. We go to three stores.
00:10:28
Natalie Richards
i go to three different stores.
00:10:29
Felicia Devine
Mm hmm.
00:10:30
Natalie Richards
Meanwhile, I could go to one store and have five different organic options of each item I
00:10:34
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
And more options that you didn't know you had.
00:10:41
Natalie Richards
I can price shop. I can buy on sale. I'm telling you, I get out of there for way less per week than I would going to three different places.
00:10:52
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:10:52
Felicia Devine
Really? So you loved it?
00:10:54
Natalie Richards
I loved it. I adored it. I got a rotisserie chicken, organic rotisserie chicken.
00:10:58
Felicia Devine
I...
00:11:02
Felicia Devine
Unheard of.
00:11:03
Natalie Richards
i got lunch from their hot bar. i got And everything was like so much less than what I would have spent going to all my other places.
00:11:11
Felicia Devine
Wow. My perception of Whole Foods is that you have to have umpteen amount of money to even walk in those stores.
00:11:20
Natalie Richards
that's how it That's how it used to be. But it used to be that way because everything else relatively was cheaper.
00:11:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:28
Natalie Richards
Now it's it's on the same level.
00:11:29
Felicia Devine
Everything's expensive. Yeah.
00:11:31
Natalie Richards
Everything's expensive. And the stuff that we buy is so expensive anyway that I'm like, oh, I can save two whole dollars on that item.
00:11:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:37
Felicia Devine
Right, right. That is like, wow.
00:11:41
Natalie Richards
I'm going to go to Whole Foods.
00:11:43
Felicia Devine
I have a question for you. So we have, it's called Kimberton Whole Foods and it's essentially, it's a local, so Kimberton PA is local to us and they started their own Whole Foods store.
00:11:49
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:11:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:11:57
Felicia Devine
It's gorgeous, lovely.
00:11:57
Natalie Richards
Sure. Yes.
00:11:59
Felicia Devine
It's like a full grocery store, but like upscale and they sell masa chips there.
00:12:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:12:07
Felicia Devine
Have you ever eaten them? I can't, I cannot bring myself, Natalie, they're $13 a bag for a bag of chips.
00:12:08
Natalie Richards
Oh, I've ordered them. I've ordered boxes of them. There's seven. There's seven if you order them in bulk off their website.
00:12:17
Felicia Devine
But I don't like tallow.
00:12:17
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:12:18
Felicia Devine
Do they taste like tallow?
00:12:19
Natalie Richards
No, they're like the greatest, the best tortilla chip that you'll ever have.
00:12:22
Felicia Devine
Are they, are they worth it?
00:12:27
Felicia Devine
Cause then I, okay.
00:12:27
Natalie Richards
Don't buy the lime ones.
00:12:29
Felicia Devine
I turned around and the Siete used to be like an upscale brand, right?
00:12:29
Natalie Richards
The lime ones are horrible.
00:12:34
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:12:34
Felicia Devine
I mean, it still is. They still have really,
00:12:35
Natalie Richards
Now they've been purchased by PepsiCo.
00:12:38
Felicia Devine
Oh, then then we don't like them anymore. No, I'm just kidding.
00:12:40
Natalie Richards
her
00:12:41
Felicia Devine
Big food.
00:12:41
Natalie Richards
They're still good. They're still fine.
00:12:43
Felicia Devine
Right. And they use avocado oil and they're not like, there's no seed oils.
00:12:46
Natalie Richards
They're still fine.
00:12:47
Felicia Devine
However, well,
Mentorship and Chiropractic Influence
00:12:48
Felicia Devine
I guess avocado seed this is a seed.
00:12:51
Natalie Richards
Technically, it has more
00:12:52
Felicia Devine
But you know what I mean? it's you you know what i mean?
00:12:56
Natalie Richards
it has more mono triglycerides.
00:12:56
Felicia Devine
But Yeah. So I'm just like, I'm confused on like why I would spend $13 on a bag of chips.
00:13:07
Felicia Devine
I just don't know if it's worth it.
00:13:08
Natalie Richards
I wouldn't spend 13.
00:13:10
Felicia Devine
Okay. That's what it costs at our grocery store.
00:13:12
Natalie Richards
That's how much it is at our like natural grocery store in Rockford, too.
00:13:16
Felicia Devine
Okay. So should I just try?
00:13:17
Natalie Richards
They're not worth that, but
00:13:18
Felicia Devine
I may, well, i might buy a $13 bag to see if I even like them. If I like them, then maybe I purchase in bulk, but good golly.
00:13:22
Natalie Richards
Sure. Okay. Maybe. Maybe. I really like the Siete. I do like the Siete corn avocado oil chips. Those are very good.
00:13:33
Natalie Richards
But the ma when you compare those to the masa...
00:13:33
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah.
00:13:37
Felicia Devine
Are they crazy different?
00:13:38
Natalie Richards
her
00:13:38
Felicia Devine
Oh, what's your favorite masa flavor?
00:13:39
Natalie Richards
They just really are.
00:13:40
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:13:43
Natalie Richards
They make like an extra salty one now, which is really good. The churro ones are are insane.
00:13:48
Felicia Devine
Oh, yum.
00:13:49
Felicia Devine
Okay. Mm-hmm.
00:13:50
Natalie Richards
The cobonero one is good.
00:13:51
Natalie Richards
like It has like a little hot to it Do not get the lime. The lime is straight up lime rind, bitter, gross, yuck.
00:14:00
Felicia Devine
Ew. Ew.
00:14:01
Natalie Richards
It's horrible. I'm
00:14:02
Felicia Devine
Oh, i my favorite lime chip, get this, Chipotle.
00:14:07
Natalie Richards
that It's subtle and it's got like the salty chunks on it.
00:14:09
Felicia Devine
It's subtle and it's so it's so salty and so acidic.
00:14:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:14
Felicia Devine
I want my lime chip to have acid, not bitterness.
00:14:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it is. Yeah. So like they, they slightly, they missed the mark on the lime flavor.
00:14:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:22
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:14:22
Natalie Richards
It's bitter.
00:14:22
Felicia Devine
Well, if Masa's listening at any point to this podcast, we have some adjustments, right?
00:14:26
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:14:28
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:14:29
Natalie Richards
But they are, they're very good.
00:14:31
Felicia Devine
Okay. so So now are you just going to be like adjustment, whole foods, your combo?
00:14:31
Natalie Richards
They're very good.
00:14:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I think it's like my every couple week routine.
00:14:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Maybe supplementing a little bit here and there, like picking and choosing little things from if I need things, but it's that I don't think they had raw, but they have the organic A2 that I get.
00:14:44
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:14:46
Felicia Devine
Right. Can you get raw milk at Whole Foods?
00:14:53
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay.
00:14:54
Natalie Richards
So for the same price as Costco, the same exact thing, the same price, it might even be less, less than Costco.
00:14:54
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah, because Kyle likes that.
00:15:04
Felicia Devine
I love, I love Costco.
00:15:08
Natalie Richards
I love Costco too, but I will go in there and I can't leave for less than $600.
00:15:09
Felicia Devine
I just got my membership.
00:15:12
Natalie Richards
Like you walk 600, $600.
00:15:13
Felicia Devine
I was just about to say 600 is my my ticket price.
00:15:15
Natalie Richards
like it's just you walk in
00:15:17
Felicia Devine
oh
00:15:18
Natalie Richards
six hundred
00:15:19
Felicia Devine
Now I just learned, okay, I just got my Costco membership a couple months ago and I've been like twice. I just learned that you can pay for like a little bit nicer of a membership. I didn't know there were tiers, but there's tiers. You can go an hour early
00:15:33
Natalie Richards
You can. And then you get a rebate. You get like a percent back of everything that you spend and you get a nice check in the mail in whenever it comes.
00:15:36
Felicia Devine
What do you mean?
00:15:38
Felicia Devine
What?
00:15:43
Natalie Richards
I don't remember.
00:15:44
Felicia Devine
my gosh. I mean, I spent a lot of money there, so I might as well.
00:15:44
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:46
Felicia Devine
Maybe I need to go to Costco tomorrow.
00:15:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:49
Felicia Devine
I love Costco.
00:15:50
Natalie Richards
So I love, I do love Costco. I really do.
00:15:53
Felicia Devine
And I am a girl of mass quantity.
00:15:54
Natalie Richards
I really do. Uh-huh.
00:15:57
Felicia Devine
Like if I'm going to get something, I want it in an extra large. If I'm going to get something, I want 300 them.
00:16:00
Natalie Richards
And if I really like it, Yeah, I don't want to have to rebuy it.
00:16:04
Felicia Devine
No, I order a lot of my food.
00:16:05
Natalie Richards
who
00:16:07
Felicia Devine
Well, not mine, but like step stuff on thrive market.
00:16:10
Natalie Richards
i love Thrive Market.
00:16:11
Felicia Devine
And I just get like bulk.
00:16:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it's great.
00:16:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:12
Natalie Richards
It's great. So I think like Whole Foods is going to be, i what I was doing for a long time is I was Instacarting from this one grocery store that I never wanted to actually go in, but they had a lot of like the organic dairy that I get that I can't get anywhere else.
00:16:24
Felicia Devine
Oh,
00:16:29
Felicia Devine
okay.
00:16:30
Natalie Richards
But that's like, that's what that's what Whole Foods has. So I can go in and get all the produce, organic produce I could possibly think of, anything I could possibly want.
00:16:38
Felicia Devine
Wow. Now is everything in Whole Foods organic?
00:16:40
Natalie Richards
They have Not everything, but they have an insane amount of organic things.
00:16:44
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:16:49
Felicia Devine
I'm enticed by their hot bar.
00:16:49
Natalie Richards
It's just the hot part is so good. It's not maybe like the healthiest. They still use like seed oils and stuff, but for for quick food, it's it's fine.
00:16:58
Felicia Devine
That's fine. Yeah. It's better than Chipotle and fast foods.
00:17:02
Natalie Richards
better than whatever. Yeah.
00:17:03
Felicia Devine
and Yeah.
00:17:04
Natalie Richards
It's better than something else.
00:17:05
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:17:05
Natalie Richards
So I'm kind of like on, I don't know. I'm going to see how I can make whole foods part of play routine, but it's just, it takes out three other stops for me.
00:17:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:15
Felicia Devine
Right. i know. I say, I say we go to three grocery stores.
00:17:16
Natalie Richards
So
00:17:18
Felicia Devine
Danny does the grocery shopping.
00:17:19
Natalie Richards
sure.
00:17:20
Felicia Devine
Danny goes to three grocery stores.
00:17:21
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:17:22
Felicia Devine
I know. so, okay. Your, your grocery update. I love that.
00:17:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah. i've I've been meaning to say something about that, but it's just so funny because you think that it's like so expensive and nowadays it's just relatively is not.
00:17:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:33
Felicia Devine
I, I won't even walk in one.
00:17:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:17:36
Felicia Devine
But the closest Whole Foods I have is in a town that I don't ever go to.
00:17:41
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:17:42
Felicia Devine
It's literally the opposite direction of anything I would go to.
00:17:42
Natalie Richards
I wouldn't either. i would have to go. And only because I go again adjusted an hour away would I ever go
00:17:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right.
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00:17:49
Natalie Richards
near a Whole Foods.
00:17:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:17:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. natalie Natalie believes in the power of an adjustment so much. She drives an hour to get adjusted.
00:17:56
Natalie Richards
I do.
00:17:56
Felicia Devine
She used to drive two.
00:17:56
Natalie Richards
I have two
00:17:57
Felicia Devine
so So this is actually cutting her distance in half.
00:18:00
Natalie Richards
do. End of pregnancy, every single week, two hours there, two hours back.
00:18:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah. She drove. She used to get adjusted.
00:18:08
Natalie Richards
And then to my midwife, an hour there, an hour back.
00:18:09
Felicia Devine
yeah Yeah. My, my midwife was an hour away too. Natalie used to get adjusted every week by our, uh, college mentor.
00:18:14
Natalie Richards
That was a lot.
00:18:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it was worth it Very, very.
00:18:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I mean, he taught us, I would say, i would say Dr. Wallace taught us everything we know confidently every single philosophy and every single technique I currently use in practice.
00:18:24
Natalie Richards
who Literally everything.
00:18:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:18:33
Felicia Devine
Dr. Wallace.
00:18:33
Natalie Richards
We are the way we are because of him.
00:18:35
Felicia Devine
yeah we are dr Wallace's minions.
00:18:38
Natalie Richards
And he's the great, he's a he's kooky, but he's the greatest.
00:18:42
Felicia Devine
And he had such an odd reputation at school that Natalie and I gravitated to him immediately.
00:18:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it was like, oh, please tell us what you know.
00:18:49
Felicia Devine
i was like, oh, he's different and the school's threatening to cook him out.
00:18:50
Natalie Richards
do you? Yeah.
00:18:51
Felicia Devine
I'm like, oh, I would love to work under him.
00:18:54
Natalie Richards
Tell me everything.
00:18:56
Felicia Devine
Teach me everything you know. i love being on the outskirts.
00:18:59
Natalie Richards
But Dr.
00:18:59
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:18:59
Natalie Richards
Wallace, he had done, he was a researcher for a long time, a chiropractic researcher. And he,
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00:19:06
Natalie Richards
but this guy, I think he's 85 now or 80.
00:19:09
Felicia Devine
yeah yeah
00:19:10
Natalie Richards
He's eight, oh he's creeping up on 85, I think. he knew most of the people who developed most of the chiropractic techniques out there.
00:19:20
Felicia Devine
technique yes uh-huh uh-huh through and through correct
00:19:22
Natalie Richards
So like his, they were his friends. So he knows these techniques so well. And then he's either done the technique or he's done research on every technique out there.
00:19:35
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:19:36
Natalie Richards
And he knows the good and bad.
00:19:37
Felicia Devine
And he'll tell you what doesn't work. Mm-hmm.
00:19:38
Natalie Richards
yeah He knows the good and bad of all of them. And then he created his little protocol.
00:19:41
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:19:43
Natalie Richards
And then we kind of just like,
00:19:45
Felicia Devine
Ran with it.
00:19:46
Natalie Richards
spun off of it.
00:19:47
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. I love it.
00:19:49
Natalie Richards
it's It was game-changing.
00:19:51
Felicia Devine
Yes. Okay. Let's do a couple more updates.
00:19:56
Natalie Richards
Yeah, give me your updates.
00:19:57
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:19:58
Natalie Richards
You, ma'am.
00:19:58
Felicia Devine
Where do you want to start with?
00:19:59
Natalie Richards
oh boy. Start with the fact that you're not on your ski trip right now.
00:20:04
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay. So last episode I said, oh yeah, I can sure podcast next weekend. I'll be on my ski trip. No big deal. I'll take my equipment. Okay.
00:20:12
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:20:13
Felicia Devine
Well, if you're a watching listener, you'll see that I'm still in my house. I'm at home this weekend. my January was sabotaged again.
00:20:25
Felicia Devine
But this time, so last week I gave the update that we all got the stomach bug. were all like under the weather. Giuseppe was like coming out of it last weekend. And Josephine, my German short hair pointer, who's five, was like still throwing up.
00:20:40
Felicia Devine
So we podcast, when did we podcast Nat? Saturday?
00:20:43
Natalie Richards
Sunday, i think it was Sunday.
00:20:44
Felicia Devine
Sunday? Okay. So Sunday she was still throwing up and we're like, Monday, we here in Pennsylvania had a snow day. Everyone's offices were closed. So Dan and I were off. So Monday comes around and she's still shaking and hiding.
00:20:58
Felicia Devine
and we're like, why is she not turning the corner? I mean, she's pretty resilient. And honestly, hindsight, she doesn't get sick. what What was I saying? She got the flu. She didn't get the flu. Josephine didn't get the flu, guys. Josephine is historically known for having bowel obstructions.
00:21:15
Felicia Devine
And normal things that, like, dogs would consume, she just, like, physically can't pass because she has a lot, a of scar tissue. And B, she just, like, for whatever reason, like, the smallest thing can turn into the biggest deal for her.
00:21:31
Felicia Devine
So she, okay. So Monday comes around, Dan and I don't work. She's still throwing up and we're like, okay, what is the plan here? Because we start work Tuesday and then we're going to Vermont Wednesday.
00:21:40
Natalie Richards
you
00:21:40
Felicia Devine
So we're like, we kind of have to like take her to the vet if she needs anti-nausea medication, if she needs a bolus of fluid, like what do we need? So Dan takes her in at noon and he doesn't get home till like almost eight o'clock at night.
00:21:52
Felicia Devine
Turns out, turns out she had a bowel obstruction.
00:21:53
Natalie Richards
Oh,
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00:21:56
Natalie Richards
of course she did.
00:21:57
Felicia Devine
They're like, she needs surgery tonight. Yada, yada. We're like, oh my gosh, this was her fifth bowel obstruction surgery, her sixth abdominal surgery.
00:22:07
Felicia Devine
So she had, she was spayed or fixed. What is it called?
00:22:10
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:22:11
Felicia Devine
Whatever the girlies get. Okay.
00:22:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:22:13
Felicia Devine
So that was an incision. Then she had five obstructions. Well, this was her fifth. So
00:22:20
Natalie Richards
That was a wild scenario.
00:22:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah, so this was her fifth surgery. We were shocked they even said they would do it because she is she has this weird scarring disorder.
00:22:26
Natalie Richards
I'm surprised.
00:22:29
Felicia Devine
I forget whether they called it, but basically all her intestines flip all over the place. They don't lay like a normal intestine would, and then they scar and adhere to all her different organs. So when they went in and they went to remove this obstruction, it was adhered to her gallbladder and her liver and they had to like peel it and remove scar tissue and then open it up.
00:22:40
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:22:46
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:22:48
Felicia Devine
And the surgeon said that if it was on a loop of her intestines that was deeper into the bundle of intestines that it would have been impossible to remove. It was on an outside loop.
00:22:57
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:22:58
Felicia Devine
So she was a very lucky girl. And it turns out it was a little bolus of grass.
00:23:05
Natalie Richards
No.
00:23:05
Felicia Devine
Not kidding.
00:23:06
Natalie Richards
That's all.
00:23:07
Felicia Devine
That's it. It was grass. It was a little tiny ball of grass.
00:23:09
Natalie Richards
Oh, this girl.
00:23:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. So she, unfortunately, like all dogs who eat grass, they eat because they have maybe a stomach ache or they eat grass to kind of just like move stuff through her digestive tract.
00:23:14
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:23:21
Natalie Richards
Just, yeah.
00:23:23
Felicia Devine
But like dogs can't digest grass. And so it usually is just like kind of like a
00:23:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah, our dogs puke it up every time.
00:23:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah, they either puke it up to kind of help get things moving in their in their stomach or they like pass it through their digestive tract and it doesn't digest and it just comes out the other end.
00:23:30
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. It's gross.
00:23:34
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:23:39
Felicia Devine
Hers got stuck, of course. So then that was Tuesday. Well, Monday night at 1030, she came out of surgery. Tuesday, she was like a ball of anxious nerves and they were like, yeah, she's like not doing hot.
00:23:54
Felicia Devine
Like she wouldn't eat for them.
00:23:56
Natalie Richards
Oh. Oh.
00:23:59
Felicia Devine
so Tuesday night they were like, it's best that you just come get her because she is so anxious.
00:24:04
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:24:05
Felicia Devine
Usually they don't release them until they eat, but she like wouldn't even eat.
00:24:08
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah, she wouldn't, no.
00:24:09
Felicia Devine
She wouldn't even eat for us. We got her home and we're like, uh, she's not eating for us either. the first time we got her to eat was like midnight and she ate like a little something. So anyway, we were supposed leave Wednesday and that obviously wasn't going happen because she has 14 inch incision.
00:24:23
Natalie Richards
That didn't happen.
00:24:27
Natalie Richards
cow. That's how big they had to... Are you serious? oh
00:24:28
Felicia Devine
and he, it's her whole abdomen.
00:24:31
Felicia Devine
The whole
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00:24:31
Felicia Devine
abdomen is cut.
00:24:33
Natalie Richards
oh
00:24:34
Felicia Devine
for the sixth time, like I'm surprised she has a muscle left to her. Like the amount of times they've sliced her open.
00:24:40
Natalie Richards
That's so sad.
00:24:41
Felicia Devine
So she has two arm wounds.
00:24:44
Natalie Richards
Hi. genene
00:24:46
Felicia Devine
Hi, Jean.
00:24:47
Natalie Richards
Hello?
00:24:48
Felicia Devine
Hi, honey.
00:24:51
Natalie Richards
Felicia's saying hi. to listen. You want to listen? Just for a second, okay?
00:24:55
Felicia Devine
I'm
00:24:56
Natalie Richards
Felicia's telling us about how her doggie is sick.
00:24:58
Felicia Devine
i'm talking about my doggie and she's sick and she's wearing a cone on her head now.
00:25:09
Natalie Richards
He's still talking about the dangerous animals from PetSmart.
00:25:12
Felicia Devine
Oh, from PetSmart.
00:25:13
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:25:13
Felicia Devine
Oh, my gosh.
00:25:15
Natalie Richards
i think
00:25:16
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:25:16
Natalie Richards
A lot of dangerous animals.
00:25:18
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:25:19
Natalie Richards
And where do they go when they have a blue card on there? Blue card means they went to a loving home. home.
00:25:27
Felicia Devine
Oh. Jean, that's so sweet.
00:25:31
Natalie Richards
Oh, sweet baby. Okay, you go watch TV, okay?
00:25:37
Natalie Richards
They're all dangerous.
00:25:38
Felicia Devine
All dangerous.
00:25:38
Natalie Richards
They're all dangerous. Yeah.
00:25:40
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:25:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
00:25:44
Felicia Devine
I love that the blue card means they went to a loving home.
00:25:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:47
Felicia Devine
It's so cute.
00:25:47
Natalie Richards
He knows when they have a blue card on their on their tank, it means he went to a loving home.
00:25:52
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. That's so cute. who
00:25:55
Natalie Richards
That's where he goes for outings now. He goes to PetSmart.
00:25:57
Felicia Devine
I love it. i love it.
00:25:58
Natalie Richards
He's been there three times in last week.
00:26:01
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. That's well, before I had Giuseppe, that's what we would do with Josephine. That would be her winter outing. We would go to PetSmart and we'd just walk around look at birds.
00:26:05
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. It's so cute.
00:26:08
Felicia Devine
Look at snakes.
00:26:08
Natalie Richards
It's so cute.
00:26:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:10
Natalie Richards
So this sweet girl is so not doing well.
00:26:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. No. And then her recovery has been so rough.
00:26:16
Natalie Richards
Has it?
00:26:16
Felicia Devine
Rightly so. I mean, she's been in horrific pain.
00:26:17
Natalie Richards
Well, yeah.
00:26:19
Felicia Devine
I've been trying to get in touch with the vet. We played phone tag all day yesterday. And then they're like, we'll call you back. We'll call you back. We're just struggling with pain management.
00:26:26
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:26:26
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:26:27
Felicia Devine
So she's pretty miserable.
00:26:28
Felicia Devine
no one's been sleeping, obviously.
00:26:31
Natalie Richards
Obviously.
00:26:32
Felicia Devine
Danny's been like sleeping on the floor with her in the living room because she can't do any steps. So she can't come upstairs. she has Dan got her a ramp for Outback to go potty.
00:26:43
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:26:44
Felicia Devine
She's pretty much kenneled like 18 hours a day because I want to keep Sep from her.
00:26:46
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:26:48
Felicia Devine
Because like every time Sep is running around, she feels like she has to get up.
00:26:48
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:26:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:26:52
Felicia Devine
So the kennel at least keeps her from like having to feel like she's on defense.
00:26:54
Natalie Richards
Keeps her safe. And yeah, she's in her like den.
00:26:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. zone Yeah. And like, I'll go read her books and stuff. But, but anyway, so Dan and I have all this time off work and, but I mean, it's good that we have time off work so that we can be with her.
00:27:03
Natalie Richards
oh
00:27:08
Natalie Richards
It's fine. Yeah.
00:27:09
Felicia Devine
Cause she, she's like on a she's on high need support right now, but,
00:27:10
Natalie Richards
She's needing it. Yeah.
00:27:15
Felicia Devine
Anyway, so I'm not in Vermont and I'm bummed, but we got to like accomplish some things this weekend.
00:27:15
Natalie Richards
this girl,
00:27:20
Felicia Devine
We actually got to go to a baby shower that we weren't going to go to.
00:27:23
Natalie Richards
which is really nice.
00:27:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So, I mean, it's disappointing, but she's alive. She's on the mend and it is what it is.
00:27:30
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah. She's done this before.
00:27:34
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:27:34
Natalie Richards
She can do it again, but girl, she's just like,
00:27:34
Felicia Devine
She's in this one. Yeah. Oh, I will also say in three years, they have massively upped their prices.
00:27:42
Natalie Richards
have they?
00:27:44
Felicia Devine
Like a lot more thousand dollars.
00:27:46
Natalie Richards
no
00:27:47
Felicia Devine
A lot. So what used to be like $5,500, $5,600 is now $9,000. Mm-hmm. know. She's? yeah. She's had, well, way more.
00:27:53
Natalie Richards
No. This dog.
00:27:56
Felicia Devine
i know
00:27:57
Natalie Richards
This dog is like more expensive than your child.
00:27:58
Felicia Devine
cheese oh yeah she said well
00:28:02
Natalie Richards
Way more.
00:28:03
Felicia Devine
way more Yeah, she, I mean, so five abdominal surgeries, then she had autoimmune meningitis and was on straight up crazy treatment for that with like spinal taps, MRIs, IV, everything.
00:28:09
Natalie Richards
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00:28:12
Natalie Richards
That's right.
00:28:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, God.
00:28:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah, that was crazy.
00:28:18
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:28:21
Felicia Devine
Anyway, so that was an update. The other update is that I got my fingernail gel removed.
00:28:23
Natalie Richards
Gosh.
00:28:28
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:28:30
Felicia Devine
Natalie, i don't think I can do it.
00:28:32
Natalie Richards
I know you feel naked.
00:28:34
Felicia Devine
Not only do I feel naked, i am i am so sensitive.
00:28:40
Natalie Richards
Oh, because they who they don't have the protection.
00:28:42
Felicia Devine
They're like, I'm like a turtle without its shell on right now.
00:28:47
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. You'll have to – did you cut them down?
00:28:48
Felicia Devine
They, I, a hundred percent, they've been breaking off.
00:28:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I know. That's – they're so brittle.
00:28:54
Felicia Devine
They're, they're shredding. Now, I will say they are in fabulous shape. Like I can't even bend it right?
00:29:04
Natalie Richards
Good. It's – uh-huh.
00:29:04
Felicia Devine
But it's the blunt force trauma that I'm not used to having to avoid. Like I just whack my fingers on anything and I'm realizing that now.
00:29:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And now you're like, oh, I broke a nail. Oh, shoot.
00:29:14
Felicia Devine
I've, my behavior is is with a shell on. I need to change my behaviors.
00:29:19
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. Mm-hmm.
00:29:20
Felicia Devine
Like I'm just blunt force traumaing all my fingers and they're just absolutely, they're like exploding under force.
00:29:27
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And you did this to decrease your toxic load, which
Nourishment and Pregnancy
00:29:32
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:29:33
Natalie Richards
think is marvelous.
00:29:35
Felicia Devine
But like when, what, what differences am I going to notice Natalie other than all the trauma to my fingers?
00:29:41
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:29:42
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:29:42
Natalie Richards
I will tell you that I have an actual allergy to the gel.
00:29:42
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:29:46
Felicia Devine
I know. I wonder if I go to get them back on ever if I have an allergy.
00:29:51
Natalie Richards
If see, that's what happened to me.
00:29:52
Felicia Devine
Like, that's what happened with my eyelashes.
00:29:53
Natalie Richards
I did them for so long and then I stopped it and then I went back and it was like, nope, you're not doing this again.
00:29:56
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:30:01
Felicia Devine
I know. I know.
00:30:02
Natalie Richards
And it's like a, it's like a elimination diet.
00:30:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:06
Natalie Richards
You eliminate it for a little bit, you try it again, and then you see what actually makes you sick.
00:30:09
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:30:11
Felicia Devine
What if I'm not tired from being awake at night? What if I'm tired because my body is detoxing chemical nail polish at all costs for five years?
00:30:17
Natalie Richards
Maybe. And these are the things you don't know. These are the things you don't know.
00:30:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:22
Natalie Richards
i will So I just did mine one last. I just was like, I just want to try it at home one more time.
00:30:28
Felicia Devine
One more time.
00:30:30
Natalie Richards
So I did it for Banff.
00:30:30
Felicia Devine
Did you try it?
00:30:33
Natalie Richards
It was the most disastrous reaction i've I've had yet.
00:30:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:38
Natalie Richards
Like so bad. Like my nails, my nail beds, like and my nail starts to separate from my skin.
00:30:40
Felicia Devine
Natalie.
00:30:46
Natalie Richards
So needless to say, we're finished.
00:30:48
Felicia Devine
You're naked forever.
00:30:49
Natalie Richards
We're finished. I can use regular nail polish, like clean ones, but like, what's the point?
00:30:50
Felicia Devine
oh no. So, but like, what's the point?
00:30:55
Natalie Richards
I can use the manicurist gel, it's but the performance is just not, it's not normal gel.
00:31:03
Felicia Devine
No.
00:31:05
Natalie Richards
It's like, it's better than regular nail polish.
00:31:05
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:31:08
Felicia Devine
Cause it dries quick, but okay.
00:31:09
Natalie Richards
Barely. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:31:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:12
Natalie Richards
So that's all I can do. and i And I was even using like the non-toxic gel versions I've gotten.
00:31:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah, like...
00:31:18
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:31:19
Natalie Richards
I've gotten Madam Glam, which is supposed to be like Hema free and all this stuff.
00:31:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:23
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:31:25
Natalie Richards
Horrible.
00:31:26
Felicia Devine
Ugh.
00:31:26
Natalie Richards
Performance, amazing.
00:31:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:29
Natalie Richards
It performs very well.
00:31:31
Felicia Devine
But that chemical load, still there.
00:31:32
Natalie Richards
Chemical load, my body said, no, thank you.
00:31:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I know.
00:31:37
Natalie Richards
so And then I also just talked to my friend who I was in Chicago with her last weekend. And her daughter was getting this like rash around her eyes and around her mouth.
00:31:48
Natalie Richards
And she had read somewhere that that was, it could be from gel nails because you're like touching your face, like in the high touch areas.
00:31:53
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:31:55
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:31:57
Natalie Richards
that you get a reaction.
00:31:57
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:32:00
Natalie Richards
She grew out all of her nails, took like got the last bit of nail polish off, and the rash completely went away.
00:32:08
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:32:09
Natalie Richards
But it didn't go away until it was off of her fingernail.
00:32:09
Felicia Devine
See...
00:32:12
Felicia Devine
I don't have any issues with like skin reactions. I don't have a skin issue, but I don't know if I have an issue until maybe it resolves.
00:32:20
Natalie Richards
Until you, right. You might just be generally used to it and then your body is just like, just working a little too hard to try to get it out.
00:32:22
Felicia Devine
Like, like, yeah.
00:32:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I saw somebody I follow and highly respect posted something that said, imagine all the energy your body would have if you didn't have to detox from the things that you put in and around it every single day.
00:32:42
Natalie Richards
Seriously.
00:32:43
Felicia Devine
So that's a very valid risk like reason to say, i don't need nails, right?
00:32:49
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:32:50
Felicia Devine
Like it's a vanity thing.
00:32:50
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:32:52
Felicia Devine
i mean, they they were protective in nature because I'm crazy cumbersome on my fingers.
00:32:53
Natalie Richards
Right. Somewhat. o
00:32:58
Felicia Devine
But like, do do I need them? No.
00:33:02
Natalie Richards
I know. That's what I said too. I was like, eh, okay.
00:33:05
Felicia Devine
So like maybe my energy stores can go towards doing something else.
00:33:05
Natalie Richards
Fine.
00:33:10
Felicia Devine
I don't know. It's an experiment. Everything's an experiment.
00:33:10
Natalie Richards
And now you instead of getting instead of going to your appointment, you can go get a massage or something.
00:33:15
Natalie Richards
It's annoying.
00:33:15
Felicia Devine
That's so true. Cause honestly, but let's do the math. Hold on. I need to do the math because this is like the time commitment to go get my nails done.
00:33:21
Natalie Richards
It's like a lot of hours.
00:33:25
Felicia Devine
Okay. I'm going to do this. So round trip with the nails and the driving was two hours and 45 minutes.
00:33:35
Natalie Richards
That's a long time.
00:33:35
Felicia Devine
Let's just say two and a half.
00:33:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah. 52
00:33:36
Felicia Devine
So 2.5 hours, three times every third week. How many?
00:33:41
Natalie Richards
in a year.
00:33:41
Felicia Devine
So wait, hold on. Let's do 50. How many weeks? 52 in a year?
00:33:44
Natalie Richards
fiftytwo in a year
00:33:45
Felicia Devine
Okay. Divided by three. So that's 17.3 times. So 17.33 times 2.5, 43 hours a year. I'm getting my nails done.
00:33:58
Natalie Richards
That's a lot for something that's potentially toxic to your c system.
00:34:00
Felicia Devine
Whoa. hundred percent toxic to my system and my wallet.
00:34:06
Natalie Richards
Very toxic. Yeah, that's the other thing.
00:34:08
Felicia Devine
So toxic to my wallet.
00:34:09
Natalie Richards
That's the other thing.
00:34:10
Felicia Devine
So we'll see.
00:34:11
Natalie Richards
I think it's okay. I think it really is okay.
00:34:13
Felicia Devine
So if I've spent that much time, well, and I'm not even going to calculate the price because Danny doesn't need to know that.
00:34:18
Natalie Richards
He doesn't need to know.
00:34:22
Felicia Devine
we're We're in the positive now. Okay.
00:34:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:24
Felicia Devine
where we've We've come out of the red.
00:34:25
Natalie Richards
So I don't know where, I don't know if these numbers are correct, but somewhere I heard it was like your liver can process like 400 different types of like compounds a day.
00:34:39
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:34:39
Natalie Richards
We are exposed to like 10,000 a day.
00:34:43
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:34:44
Natalie Richards
so let that sink in.
00:34:45
Felicia Devine
Okay. So let's hope that like 6,000 of those were from nail polish.
00:34:47
Natalie Richards
so
00:34:50
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:34:51
Natalie Richards
right. But this is why I harp on the liver.
00:34:52
Felicia Devine
Oh gosh. Yeah.
Dietary Changes: From Vegan to Balanced
00:34:55
Felicia Devine
The liver, the, the girlies need to take care of the liver.
00:34:58
Natalie Richards
o
00:34:58
Felicia Devine
I think 2026, we spend taking care of our livers.
00:35:02
Natalie Richards
Taking care of our livers. just like We all know we need to be low tox. I get it But like really, do we really?
00:35:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. And it's like cute to be low tox, but like your liver, your liver is doing the most.
00:35:12
Natalie Richards
This is real. And this is why there's like, I think the top condition right now is non-alcoholic fatty liver disease for every age group.
00:35:14
Felicia Devine
It's doing the most.
00:35:24
Natalie Richards
And it's because our livers are breaking down.
00:35:24
Felicia Devine
here That and fricking type two diabetes. I'm sorry.
00:35:28
Natalie Richards
And which same issue, same issue, different day, all tied in to the same things.
00:35:30
Felicia Devine
Insulin resistance. Yeah. Right. Right. All ties into our next topic, food.
00:35:39
Natalie Richards
Food and pregnancy preparation because that's where you are right now.
00:35:41
Felicia Devine
Health. Yeah.
00:35:45
Natalie Richards
You're trying to prep your body for pregnancy.
00:35:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:48
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:35:51
Natalie Richards
And when we talk about, i think we should talk about like your prenatal stack and your, and your diet and all of that stuff.
00:35:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm. And how it looks different than my first pregnancy.
00:35:59
Natalie Richards
I'll talk about what I did too. Yeah. It's very different now than where you began with Mr.
00:36:03
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yes.
00:36:04
Natalie Richards
Sepp.
00:36:05
Felicia Devine
Oh, my little Giuseppe.
00:36:07
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. And there's just like the the term prenatal, like a prenatal supplement or prenatal preparation, all that stuff.
00:36:16
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:36:21
Natalie Richards
You have to do that work before you ever become pregnant to prepare you.
00:36:25
Felicia Devine
Oh, my gosh. Which dr Dr. Mimi McParland.
00:36:31
Natalie Richards
Oh yes. Yes.
00:36:32
Felicia Devine
She is our fertility expert. She's a fertility specialist. She works with plenty of IVF clients, fertility clients. She is...
00:36:39
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:36:41
Felicia Devine
amazing and so well-researched, so well-versed.
00:36:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:36:44
Felicia Devine
I mean, this is her wheelhouse. She posted the other day that the most important trimester is the one that no one talks about. And that's trimester zero, which is pre-pregnancy.
00:36:53
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yes.
00:36:55
Felicia Devine
It's everything you're doing to get pregnant because once you're pregnant, it's like once you sign up for the marathon, it's kind of too late.
00:37:04
Natalie Richards
Way too late, in fact.
00:37:05
Felicia Devine
So like you kind of have to prep before you sign up for the marathon, because once you're already pregnant, your, so your fetus and your placenta are pulling everything from your stores.
00:37:05
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:37:09
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:37:19
Felicia Devine
The things you're eating while pregnant, they matter.
00:37:19
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:37:22
Felicia Devine
Okay. They matter.
00:37:23
Natalie Richards
Not that much.
00:37:24
Felicia Devine
But not that much because what's happening is your your baby is pulling from things that are already processed and already vetted by your liver. your Like, it's taking from your stores.
00:37:31
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:37:34
Felicia Devine
And a store is that.
00:37:34
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:37:36
Felicia Devine
It's been stored.
00:37:37
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:37:37
Felicia Devine
It's not like, oh I'm pregnant. Now let's take an iron supplement. Too late.
00:37:41
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:37:41
Felicia Devine
Sorry. i mean, it is supportive. i'm I'm not going to, like, discount that.
00:37:45
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:37:45
Natalie Richards
You need it in your system far before you ever get pregnant.
00:37:45
Felicia Devine
But... You need it in your system. You need your systems working well far before you get pregnant.
00:37:51
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:37:53
Felicia Devine
Now, there is knowledge is power. Okay.
00:37:57
Natalie Richards
Nourished.
00:37:57
Felicia Devine
If you don't know, you don't know. But when you know, you can do better. So if you're in the trying phase, maybe take a month off to like really get your body working in stores, right?
00:38:09
Felicia Devine
Like nourish and like make the conscious decision of like, I'm not ready.
00:38:10
Natalie Richards
Nourished.
00:38:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:38:15
Felicia Devine
Like you can always say you're not ready.
00:38:17
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:38:19
Felicia Devine
Don't force it. Don't just try because it's another time you're ovulating.
00:38:22
Natalie Richards
Exactly.
00:38:23
Felicia Devine
And I think that's mature.
00:38:23
Natalie Richards
Exactly.
00:38:24
Felicia Devine
I think that's maturity.
00:38:25
Natalie Richards
Wait until the premium, the premium egg.
00:38:25
Felicia Devine
I think that is.
00:38:30
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:38:30
Natalie Richards
Wait until the premium sperm.
00:38:30
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:38:34
Natalie Richards
Wait until everything is like, yes, I am nourished.
00:38:37
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:38:38
Natalie Richards
I am healthy. I am ready. I am not stressed.
00:38:40
Felicia Devine
who
00:38:41
Natalie Richards
I get that some of those things are never going to happen for certain people.
00:38:44
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:38:44
Natalie Richards
i get it.
00:38:45
Felicia Devine
But if you consciously know you're having a depleted month, you've been depleted recently. Like, for instance, getting pregnant six weeks after you give birth, not a great time to get pregnant.
00:38:58
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:38:58
Felicia Devine
Depleted. Okay. I actually know someone that did this. So, yeah.
00:39:01
Natalie Richards
the The most depleted that you will be, maybe, well, post-breastfeeding, I actually think is probably the most while breastfeeding, unless you're doing really, really well with nourishment.
00:39:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:09
Felicia Devine
While breastfeeding, aka me.
00:39:13
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:39:15
Natalie Richards
and some people really, really do, and you do.
00:39:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:18
Natalie Richards
so
00:39:19
Felicia Devine
I do my best. However, i have so much room for improvement because food has never been my best
Exercise and Stress Management
00:39:25
Felicia Devine
subject. I don't have an appetite. I really never have. Which means I don't really crave foods.
00:39:34
Felicia Devine
So like if I'm not told or reminded to eat, I won't eat, which is kind of a weird thing to say.
00:39:38
Natalie Richards
Oof, I do not have that problem.
00:39:41
Felicia Devine
I know a lot of people, if they're stressed or if they're bored or if they're like home alone or if they're out and about, all they think about is like their next meal, the next snack.
00:39:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:39:50
Felicia Devine
Like that is very common and I'm not like shaming anyone.
00:39:54
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:39:55
Felicia Devine
But like for me, if Dan goes to work and I'm like at home doing stuff with Sep and like running errands and stuff, like I will forget to eat.
00:40:05
Natalie Richards
So you do have to work on it a little bit.
00:40:05
Felicia Devine
So I have to work on that because like I have to work on increasing my volume. Like the foods I choose, great. I'm a great sourcer.
00:40:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:40:14
Felicia Devine
I source whole foods. I focus on fats and proteins. Like I will have like little cheats here and there. Like I'll eat the chips and I'll eat, you know, here and there. But I need to work on volume of calories and not necessarily what the source of the calorie is.
00:40:25
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:40:29
Natalie Richards
And that's huge, as we said last time, for adequate hormone levels in general, like across the board.
00:40:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:34
Felicia Devine
Right. you You need energy.
00:40:37
Natalie Richards
You have to You have to have the fats and you have to have the minerals.
00:40:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:40
Natalie Richards
You do.
00:40:41
Felicia Devine
A sign that you're also not eating enough is being cold.
00:40:46
Natalie Richards
Totally.
00:40:47
Felicia Devine
And I think in the winter, you're like, oh, am I cold because it's like winter? no like you can be cold because you're true you don't have enough food in you.
00:40:56
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:40:57
Felicia Devine
Like food is going to be the fuel to your fire. and if.
00:41:00
Natalie Richards
Especially if you have extremity cold, like like coolness in your extremities because your body's focusing all the energy you have to heat your core and keep you alive and your organs.
00:41:03
Felicia Devine
hmm.
00:41:09
Felicia Devine
And your organs.
00:41:12
Natalie Richards
And if you have extremity coldness, there's something happening.
00:41:12
Felicia Devine
Your fingers can go.
00:41:16
Felicia Devine
yes Yes. So nourishment is so vital and so important for the preconception phase.
00:41:17
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:41:22
Felicia Devine
And knowing that you're not ready is also like, it's okay.
00:41:26
Natalie Richards
it's It's okay to skip a month and and nourish yourself.
00:41:30
Felicia Devine
You don't have to try every, if you're in the trying, you do not have to try every month.
00:41:30
Natalie Richards
It's okay.
00:41:34
Natalie Richards
It's true. tuck The stress of that too.
00:41:37
Felicia Devine
Also, yeah, in the planning.
00:41:38
Natalie Richards
oh
00:41:39
Felicia Devine
I mean, come on.
00:41:39
Natalie Richards
I know. i know. And the tracking and the, oh, I mean, how many times do you hear people getting pregnant when they decide to just like stop?
00:41:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:48
Felicia Devine
Stop trying. Mm-hmm.
00:41:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Because sometimes it just is like, maybe we just need to listen in to our intuition a little bit more too.
00:41:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. And it becomes obsessive.
00:41:57
Natalie Richards
That's a whole other side.
00:41:58
Felicia Devine
And I know when I was trying to get pregnant with Sep, I was very much like, when we're ready, I'm going to go foot, like pedal to the metal. And we got pregnant in like two months. So it's really like, I was fortunate in that, but
00:42:08
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:42:11
Natalie Richards
That really is very fortunate. I think more people need to realize too that you' the the human body is actually not designed to get pregnant every cycle, to have like implantation and have everything work.
00:42:25
Natalie Richards
Like we're not rabbits.
00:42:25
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Right.
Prenatal Care Strategies
00:42:28
Natalie Richards
Rabbits are that way. They, they you know, have intercourse and and get pregnant every single time that there's there's like they go through heat.
00:42:29
Felicia Devine
thanks okay
00:42:34
Felicia Devine
They're pregnant.
00:42:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:42:39
Natalie Richards
And human beings are actually not designed that way. I forget what the term for it is, but it's really somewhere like every three cycles, I think, is really like what is the average for, or like if that's what normal would be.
00:42:46
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:42:54
Felicia Devine
okay
00:42:57
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:42:57
Natalie Richards
So honestly, like six months minimum is what most people should expect in the back of their mind.
00:42:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I was going to say, i was going say like setting your heart on something can be very defeating.
00:43:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:09
Felicia Devine
So being like, I need to be pregnant in two months. I think that can be very, or if it doesn't happen the first try, if it doesn't happen in the second try, it like, don't know.
00:43:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It doesn't mean your body's not working. It actually is like, that's how we're designed.
00:43:21
Felicia Devine
No, that's okay. And also it's, it's, it's buying you more time to nourish
00:43:28
Natalie Richards
To nourish, it is.
00:43:28
Felicia Devine
To get your hormones right.
00:43:28
Natalie Richards
Hold
00:43:30
Felicia Devine
To be prepared. Because everyone who ever gets pregnant and has a baby always says it happened at the right time.
00:43:32
Natalie Richards
on, speaking. so
00:43:36
Natalie Richards
Yep, exactly.
00:43:37
Felicia Devine
It happened at the right time.
00:43:37
Natalie Richards
into my day
00:43:38
Felicia Devine
And you just have to have trust in that.
00:43:40
Felicia Devine
even
Nail Polish Toxicity Concerns
00:43:40
Felicia Devine
if you're not getting pregnant every month, it's buying you more time to be able to nourish your body, get the hormones right, optimize all of the things that you're trying to optimize your sleep.
00:43:47
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:43:51
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:43:51
Felicia Devine
I mean, i will rave about an Oura Ring.
00:43:55
Felicia Devine
They, they don't sponsor me for one minute and they don't even repost me. Okay.
00:44:00
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:44:00
Felicia Devine
But I will always tag them because I'm such an aura ring girly. They constantly are coming up with updates. And I was looking at my updates yesterday and it basically is telling me that like my stress load has honestly never been higher.
00:44:18
Natalie Richards
Oh, boy.
00:44:19
Felicia Devine
And it's it takes it and it breaks it into categories of like what stressors you're having currently. And like sleep honestly is like mild to moderate. It's not even my biggest problem.
00:44:30
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:44:31
Felicia Devine
It's my inactivity level right now. And I was like, oh, that's embarrassing.
00:44:35
Natalie Richards
Oof.
00:44:37
Felicia Devine
I have been called, yeah, essentially my aura ring was like, get your booty moving.
00:44:37
Natalie Richards
Called out.
00:44:41
Natalie Richards
i see.
00:44:42
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:44:43
Felicia Devine
We had my parents here for over a month. the holidays and this like Arctic cold weather come through that like I was out, we were walking.
00:44:54
Felicia Devine
I would say I was walking like six times a week, like nice long walks.
00:44:56
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:44:58
Felicia Devine
Now that it's so cold, I have a hard time getting seppy out there with it.
00:45:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:02
Felicia Devine
big I mean, it's like, it's like 16 degrees.
00:45:03
Natalie Richards
Like cold, cold. Yeah.
00:45:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And like, he's not working out. I am. So like it's colder for him because he's just getting windblown with cold air sitting stationary.
00:45:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:13
Felicia Devine
So I will
Tribute to Dr. Wallace
00:45:13
Felicia Devine
admit like my activity level has been down, which is decreasing my resilience to stress because I'm not getting, like, I'm not warming up my core.
00:45:23
Natalie Richards
hu
00:45:23
Felicia Devine
I'm not moving my bones. I'm not moving my muscles. I'm not like doing the things that boost my hormones. Yeah.
00:45:29
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:45:30
Felicia Devine
So my aura ring was like, really get moving. So I started another Pilates segment yesterday or two days ago.
00:45:36
Natalie Richards
Love it
00:45:37
Felicia Devine
So hopefully I can get back on like more of a movement train, even though it's cold out and just start kind of, yeah, building that resistance back up to the stress.
00:45:43
Natalie Richards
Do something. h
00:45:47
Felicia Devine
Cause like it, it was an eyeopening thing. I mean, I'm not stupid. i would tell you, yeah, I haven't moved, but it was like slap in the face, like really get your body moving.
00:45:52
Natalie Richards
For sure.
00:45:56
Natalie Richards
And that it is affecting your stress levels.
00:45:59
Felicia Devine
It is. Yeah. And I will always, always commend Danny because he is like, he will get on that bicycle at 10 o'clock at night because he knows how much it helps his mental health.
00:46:10
Felicia Devine
He knows how much it helps his physical health. And like, he will not sacrifice working out. Whereas for me, why am I like this?
00:46:17
Natalie Richards
Kyle's the same way. Mm-hmm.
00:46:19
Felicia Devine
I will literally sacrifice working out at all costs.
00:46:22
Natalie Richards
At all costs. I know.
00:46:23
Felicia Devine
I would like, I'll be like,
00:46:23
Natalie Richards
I'm like, I have so many other things to do.
00:46:26
Felicia Devine
It's six degrees windy and I am gonna skip a workout. Like i will I will come up with any excuse and I don't know why I'm like that.
00:46:33
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:46:34
Felicia Devine
Why do I not like working out?
00:46:34
Natalie Richards
We also, it's because we are women and we don't have the same ability to push through as men do.
00:46:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:46:43
Felicia Devine
Well, they also don't have as many like repercussions of working out.
00:46:46
Natalie Richards
Exactly.
00:46:47
Felicia Devine
Like, and I will use breastfeeding as an excuse forever.
00:46:52
Natalie Richards
well, it is.
00:46:53
Felicia Devine
But I'm like, oh, if I work out too hard, my milk will go down.
00:46:56
Natalie Richards
And and it could.
00:46:57
Felicia Devine
And it could. It's not like invalid, but it's also like, okay, doing Pilates isn't going to drop my supply.
00:47:01
Natalie Richards
no No.
00:47:03
Felicia Devine
so I'm being dramatic and I'm using, I'm making excuses.
00:47:09
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:47:09
Felicia Devine
And this is me owning up to that. We're not all perfect.
00:47:12
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:47:12
Felicia Devine
Like you can have this, all your resources and still not do it right.
00:47:13
Natalie Richards
No.
00:47:16
Natalie Richards
But that is what the prenatal period is all about, is just taking all of the information that we have and saying, okay, how can I optimize my body so that when you actually get pregnant and you move into that first trimester, when you can't take in anything, then it doesn't matter.
00:47:21
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:47:24
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:47:36
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:47:38
Natalie Richards
if you can't take your prenatals that day, it's okay because you're not so depleted and you actually have the stores.
00:47:38
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:47:44
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:47:46
Natalie Richards
So like if you can prepare yourself beforehand, then who who cares if you have a trimester that you actually can't eat things and can't take things?
00:47:46
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:47:49
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:47:53
Natalie Richards
It's okay.
00:47:54
Felicia Devine
And can't move your body.
00:47:55
Natalie Richards
It's okay.
00:47:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:56
Natalie Richards
So it's preparing you for like the time when your body's actually going to be super protective about what it allows in its system.
00:48:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:48:06
Natalie Richards
And that I think is where a lot of people get the na some of the nausea comes from and some of the food aversion food aversions because your body's saying, i don't I don't trust that.
00:48:10
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:48:15
Natalie Richards
I don't know that. I'm trying to grow a new human.
00:48:16
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Chicken is a scary thing when you're pregnant.
00:48:19
Natalie Richards
Chicken's very scary. Yeah.
00:48:20
Felicia Devine
but we need to take We need to take more precautions when we're not pregnant.
00:48:24
Natalie Richards
That's true. So like the first the trimester zero is the time when you want to just rebuild all of that stuff as much as you can.
00:48:25
Felicia Devine
oh
00:48:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah. It's opportunity.
00:48:34
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:48:35
Felicia Devine
It's like when you're in on a basketball team and you don't get put in as a starter and you're like, this is my opportunity to to work harder in practice. Yeah.
00:48:41
Natalie Richards
There we go.
00:48:42
Felicia Devine
There you go.
00:48:43
Natalie Richards
Boom.
00:48:43
Felicia Devine
We have to work harder in our preconception time for the grand finale for the buzzer beater, which is getting pregnant.
00:48:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So you can enjoy pregnancy and you can ideally the not feel as terrible in your first trimester.
00:48:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:59
Felicia Devine
Okay. Natalie, Natalie, let's go through, what I did during my preconception phase last time versus what you did and why I had such a sensory overload during my first trimester versus why you didn't know you were even pregnant.
00:49:06
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:49:16
Natalie Richards
Correct.
00:49:18
Felicia Devine
I developed every sensory concern you could ever imagine.
00:49:21
Natalie Richards
Oh, you had you had a rough first, yeah, 18 weeks.
00:49:22
Felicia Devine
18 weeks. in it
00:49:28
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:49:28
Felicia Devine
Once I hit 18 plus two, I was like pregnant.
00:49:30
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:49:32
Felicia Devine
Who's pregnant? Me? Like thrived the rest of pregnancy.
00:49:34
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:49:36
Felicia Devine
However, prior to that was due to my nutritional preparation.
00:49:36
Natalie Richards
Yep. Uh-huh.
00:49:42
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:49:43
Felicia Devine
Okay. So let's, let's hear it from Natalie. Cause Natalie in all regards of nutrition is like spot on.
00:49:46
Natalie Richards
So.
00:49:51
Natalie Richards
So.
00:49:52
Natalie Richards
I remember the day you texted me and you said, oh we just watched Game Changers.
00:49:56
Felicia Devine
That I did with
00:50:01
Natalie Richards
We're all going vegan. and I go, oh no.
00:50:01
Felicia Devine
you.
00:50:05
Felicia Devine
This was what, six years ago?
00:50:06
Natalie Richards
God, it was years, years, years, years ago.
00:50:08
Felicia Devine
It was literally six years ago because I was still in my first apartment.
00:50:10
Natalie Richards
Probably. Yeah, probably. And I was like, oh boy. Okay. And I let you do it. i let you. Yeah. And I should probably shouldn't have, but I let you.
00:50:23
Felicia Devine
I should have stepped in. I should have intervened.
00:50:25
Natalie Richards
I should have stepped in.
00:50:26
Felicia Devine
okay
00:50:27
Natalie Richards
And you guys, you guys did it well. Like it's, it's not that you were.
00:50:32
Felicia Devine
I will say... We also did it before it was mass produced, I should say, in the food industry. Like there weren't a lot of like fake meats.
00:50:45
Felicia Devine
There weren't a lot of fake cheeses yet.
00:50:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:50:47
Felicia Devine
Like a lot of the fake stuff has come out since.
00:50:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:50:51
Felicia Devine
So in the beginning we were, we were vegan.
00:50:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:50:54
Felicia Devine
So we were like very clean. We weren't doing a lot of the like fake stuff.
00:50:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:50:59
Natalie Richards
Right. You were eating like whole foods.
00:51:00
Felicia Devine
However, Yeah, we were doing whole foods. We were just eating, you know, beans instead of steak, which in hindsight, we missed the boat.
00:51:04
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:51:09
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:51:12
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:51:13
Natalie Richards
Anyway, so then...
00:51:14
Felicia Devine
Anyway.
00:51:16
Natalie Richards
Felicia then tells me, oh, we're trying to get pregnant, like, you know, all this stuff. and and
00:51:21
Felicia Devine
Which was years later.
00:51:22
Natalie Richards
years later, so you were true you were vegan for at least four years.
00:51:27
Felicia Devine
Four. Well, we were, I was vegan for like two and a half and I was vegetarian for like an hour, an hour and a half, a year and a half.
00:51:31
Natalie Richards
Vegetarian for, oh, an hour and a half year. So meanwhile, in that time, like, i think you started to eat eggs, right?
00:51:42
Felicia Devine
did I eat eggs?
00:51:42
Natalie Richards
When you were a vegetarian, I can't remember.
00:51:44
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah. I ate eggs and cheese when I was a vegetarian.
00:51:46
Natalie Richards
eggs and cheese. So you had at least kind of like rebuilt a little of that, but you were likely missing out on a lot of minerals only because food, food grown in the ground just doesn't contain nutrients anymore.
00:51:51
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:51:57
Felicia Devine
A lot of minerals and amino acids.
00:52:05
Felicia Devine
Anymore, correct.
00:52:06
Natalie Richards
it it should on paper.
00:52:07
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:52:09
Natalie Richards
It should.
00:52:10
Felicia Devine
On paper, things come from the earth should have high loads of minerals, high loads of antioxidants.
00:52:14
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:52:17
Felicia Devine
However, it's just not the same as it used to be.
00:52:18
Natalie Richards
It doesn't exist anymore. So you were just depleted. That's all there is to it.
00:52:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:24
Natalie Richards
And I remember...
00:52:24
Felicia Devine
Years, years a nutritional profile that was lacking.
00:52:24
Natalie Richards
i
00:52:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:52:29
Felicia Devine
It wasn't that I was eating bad food.
00:52:31
Felicia Devine
This wasn't eating nutritionally dense food.
00:52:31
Natalie Richards
No.
00:52:35
Natalie Richards
Correct.
00:52:36
Felicia Devine
There we go. Yeah.
00:52:37
Natalie Richards
That's the key right there.
00:52:39
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:52:39
Natalie Richards
So I remember you sent me a picture of you eating meat stick for the first time and I go, oh!
00:52:45
Felicia Devine
The day I got my period after i tried to get pregnant one month, it didn't stick.
00:52:47
Natalie Richards
for Yes. Yes.
00:52:54
Natalie Richards
Yup.
00:52:54
Felicia Devine
I got my period. I sent Natalie a picture of a meat stick in the parking lot of a grocery store. And she goes, oh my God, you're like, what's happening?
00:52:58
Natalie Richards
I forget what you even said. I go, thank God.
00:53:02
Felicia Devine
I'm like, didn't get pregnant, changing my life, starting eat meat. Cause I intuitively knew. So rewind a little. So in, I think July, I did a seven or eight day colon and gallbladder cleanse.
00:53:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's right. It was intense.
00:53:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:53:23
Felicia Devine
So i was so depleted.
00:53:24
Natalie Richards
You were so sick. Yeah.
00:53:28
Felicia Devine
However, during that cleanse, every waking moment, my brain was consumed with animal products. I wanted an egg eight ways. I wanted steak. i want and i had I was still vegetarian at this point.
00:53:40
Felicia Devine
So intuitively, my body was craving all the things that it needed.
00:53:40
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:53:43
Felicia Devine
So then I come off the cleanse for a month. I do nothing. We we try and get pregnant one month. Didn't work. And I knew in my heart of hearts, I needed animal products.
00:53:54
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:53:55
Felicia Devine
I knew. And so I sent Natalie this picture. i like grabbed a meat stick because I was like, it was it was more cathartic.
00:54:00
Natalie Richards
You're like, what do I do? Right.
00:54:01
Felicia Devine
I just like went to the grocery store, grabbed something I could eat in the car.
00:54:03
Natalie Richards
No.
00:54:04
Felicia Devine
i wasn't going to grab like a raw piece of steak.
00:54:07
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:54:07
Felicia Devine
it I'm going to the store. I'm ripping the bandaid off. And like, everyone's like, oh, did you get sick? No, I didn't get sick. Like,
00:54:13
Natalie Richards
no
00:54:14
Felicia Devine
I'm like resilient. I wasn't like, I don't know. So I ate the meat stick and I was like, I'm changing my ways. I got pregnant the next cycle. Was that enough time to build up all my mineral deficiencies, all of my nutritional deficiencies, stack my amino acids?
00:54:32
Felicia Devine
No, the answer is no.
00:54:33
Natalie Richards
No, no, no, no, no.
00:54:33
Felicia Devine
The answer is absolutely not.
00:54:37
Natalie Richards
And to have, no, to have enough, no, to have enough saturated fat, to have enough cholesterol, to have, no.
00:54:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah, no. but
00:54:41
Felicia Devine
No, no, no, it was not.
00:54:44
Natalie Richards
And it's amazing and wonderful that you got pregnant. It's so awesome.
00:54:47
Felicia Devine
And Giuseppe is perfect.
00:54:48
Natalie Richards
And he's perfect.
00:54:48
Felicia Devine
So like I would never,
00:54:49
Natalie Richards
And, and truly like, it's not that you can't get pregnant when you're a vegan it's or a vegetarian, whatever.
00:54:54
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah. It's not impossible.
Dietary Preparations for Pregnancy
00:54:56
Felicia Devine
It's just your odds of successful, i guess, comfort.
00:54:57
Natalie Richards
It's just
00:55:01
Natalie Richards
Your odds of feeling very good are not high.
00:55:05
Felicia Devine
and And also like, I'm not discounting what I did, but like, My placenta was tiny per my doula. And like that to me, the way it came across was like not very nice.
00:55:17
Felicia Devine
But tell us about like placental health, Natalie, and like the resources we can look at because she's, Natalie sent me this.
00:55:20
Natalie Richards
Okay. Yes. So i will say i yeah so to back up a little bit, prepared prepared myself
00:55:32
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah. Let's see how Natalie prepares.
00:55:32
Natalie Richards
for pregnancy
00:55:35
Natalie Richards
by eating mostly. i I've gone back and forth with dietary things for the last 15 years in terms of like what we'd love an experiment.
00:55:42
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:55:44
Felicia Devine
Natalie and i love an experiment.
00:55:47
Natalie Richards
I love new information.
00:55:48
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:55:50
Natalie Richards
i love like the research. I love new stuff.
00:55:52
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:55:53
Natalie Richards
I just like to know like what people are thinking about diet and all of that. So I have, I mean, I do a lot of research on this stuff.
00:55:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:56:01
Natalie Richards
Here, Jean.
00:56:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:56:02
Natalie Richards
Okay, go watch TV. And so I have kind of landed in this little bubble where it's primarily like your protein is coming from animal sources.
Dietary Choices and Health Conditions
00:56:14
Natalie Richards
You're not worried about pretty much any sort of plant type of protein at all.
00:56:14
Felicia Devine
and hey
00:56:18
Felicia Devine
Right. hey
00:56:21
Natalie Richards
I dabble with dairy, organic dairy.
00:56:23
Felicia Devine
and hu
00:56:23
Natalie Richards
i dabble with, some grains occasionally for the most part. It's like whole foods, whole vegetables, but only certain ones.
00:56:37
Natalie Richards
Like i I, don't, I don't do well with nightshades.
00:56:38
Felicia Devine
Are you a nightshade girl or do you stay away from nightshades?
00:56:42
Natalie Richards
I will still eat them occasionally.
00:56:42
Felicia Devine
Okay. okay Okay.
00:56:44
Natalie Richards
I have to stay away from oxalates because and phytates and oxalates.
00:56:47
Felicia Devine
So that's like your green green leafy objects.
00:56:50
Natalie Richards
So we're talking about nuts with skins on them. We're talking about my leafy kale, spinach,
00:56:57
Felicia Devine
Green kale. Yeah. who
00:57:00
Natalie Richards
So like that, I personally do not do well with. And this is only from i i get a kidney stone.
00:57:04
Felicia Devine
Natalie gets kidney stones. Okay.
00:57:07
Natalie Richards
I look at a piece of spinach, I get a kidney stone.
00:57:10
Felicia Devine
Also, if it's raw, it's more aggressive.
00:57:12
Natalie Richards
If it's raw. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:57:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:13
Natalie Richards
So I personally do not do well with it. So I have to eat the way that I do. because I'm not trying to do that again. i haven't had one, praise be, in three and a half three and a half years.
00:57:22
Felicia Devine
goodna
00:57:25
Felicia Devine
okay Yeah.
00:57:27
Natalie Richards
The last one was when I was like 10 weeks postpartum with Jean.
00:57:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:31
Natalie Richards
That was horrible.
00:57:32
Felicia Devine
Crazy. I remember your first one.
00:57:35
Natalie Richards
Oh, it was...
00:57:35
Felicia Devine
You texted me and you were like, I think I'm actually dying.
00:57:38
Natalie Richards
It was – every one – I've had three I think three different ones. Horrifying. Like would not wish it on my worst enemy.
00:57:44
Felicia Devine
Oh my God.
00:57:47
Natalie Richards
After having a unmedicated 48-hour home birth and then 10 weeks later having a kidney stone, I'd take the home birth every every day.
00:57:54
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:57:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:57:56
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:57:56
Natalie Richards
the So that's that's that. So I don't eat levy greens.
00:58:00
Felicia Devine
Okay. Not that they're bad. They're just not for Natalie.
00:58:03
Natalie Richards
No, not they're not for me. So I've kind of gone to this like animal-based situation for diet. It's not that I don't eat plants. I do. I just am particular about the ones that I eat.
00:58:12
Felicia Devine
You.
00:58:15
Felicia Devine
You teeter more carnivore. Mm-hmm.
00:58:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Teetering on the edge, I would say, but I'd certainly eat.
00:58:20
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:58:22
Natalie Richards
i'm I'm still balanced.
00:58:22
Felicia Devine
Vegetables.
00:58:23
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:58:24
Natalie Richards
So i had, that's pretty much when I met Kyle, like that's how we ate. We had we were eating his cow that he had purchased that he had in his its freezer.
00:58:29
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:58:34
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yep.
00:58:39
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:58:42
Natalie Richards
And then there were a lot of things that happened in between there. But anyway, got for not that much time.
00:58:47
Felicia Devine
Well, not that much time, Natalie, from when you for when you met Kyle and got pregnant.
00:58:50
Natalie Richards
Six months. Got pregnant very
Insights from 'Nourished' Documentary
00:58:54
Felicia Devine
I don't even think you ate your way through that whole cow before you got pregnant.
00:58:54
Natalie Richards
easily.
00:58:57
Natalie Richards
Oh, goodness, no. But I had been eating like this for a long time, needless to say.
00:59:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:59:10
Felicia Devine
okay
00:59:12
Natalie Richards
So then I came across this video and Lindsay Melis is a really amazing midwife. She's like
00:59:19
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:59:20
Natalie Richards
I love her. I've followed her for a very long time. And she teamed up with Paul Saladino, who's like the carnivore MD guy, who is the heart and soil founder of that supplement company.
00:59:29
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:59:38
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:59:40
Natalie Richards
the Nourish documentary compared a vegan placenta of a vegan mother, a fresh placenta, yeah, and a fresh placenta from like somebody who ate more animal-based.
00:59:44
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Fresh.
00:59:53
Natalie Richards
Lindsay Milos is very, very supportive of eating an animal-based, just a well-rounded diet when you're pregnant, but certainly getting your your protein sources from animals, from well-taken care of animals.
01:00:00
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:00:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:00:06
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:00:07
Natalie Richards
That's huge. they compared the two. the The vegan mother's placenta was like light colored, almost like grainy sort
Preconception Health for Pregnancy
01:00:17
Felicia Devine
thin Yeah.
01:00:17
Natalie Richards
of thin, like very, it had it had like like calcifications in it almost, which is really quite scary.
01:00:26
Natalie Richards
And then the the animal-based mother's placenta was like deeply colored, dark red, like beautiful tissue.
01:00:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:00:33
Felicia Devine
Dark, rich. ha
01:00:35
Natalie Richards
Like it just, I don't know how else to explain it
01:00:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Like, yeah, I can like visualize it in my head.
01:00:39
Natalie Richards
Beautiful tissue.
01:00:41
Felicia Devine
So we'll, we'll like share it on our social media. We'll reshare those, those videos, but
01:00:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Come here, baby. You can sit with me.
01:00:47
Felicia Devine
But yeah, like it does matter because your placenta is grown in that first trimester and it is what is nourishing your baby throughout your whole pregnancy.
01:00:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah, exactly.
01:00:58
Felicia Devine
And so like a healthy placenta is important, but that is built upon your building blocks of preconception health.
01:00:58
Natalie Richards
exactly
01:01:06
Natalie Richards
No, I won't listen. Exactly.
01:01:08
Natalie Richards
it really does matter what you feed yourself.
01:01:08
Felicia Devine
Okay. Mm-hmm.
01:01:13
Natalie Richards
It really does. Sorry to say, it just does.
01:01:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:15
Natalie Richards
Not to say you can't birth a healthy baby.
01:01:19
Felicia Devine
Right.
01:01:20
Natalie Richards
It just depletes you in a different way.
01:01:21
Felicia Devine
It's harder. Mm-hmm.
01:01:23
Natalie Richards
It's harder. You may experience different issues with your child that you don't want to have to deal with in terms of like skin issues, gut issues, whatever, whatever it may be.
01:01:29
Felicia Devine
her
01:01:33
Felicia Devine
Or like prenatal issues like gestational diabetes, gestational hypertension.
01:01:36
Natalie Richards
Yes.
01:01:39
Natalie Richards
hu h
01:01:43
Natalie Richards
Just nausea.
01:01:44
Felicia Devine
like i mean, like.
01:01:46
Felicia Devine
Right.
01:01:46
Natalie Richards
Nausea in your first trimester is highly linked. it's It's linked to sperm health, but it's also linked to your mineral deficiencies.
01:01:55
Felicia Devine
I was going to your nutritional profile going into pregnancy.
01:01:56
Natalie Richards
It just is.
01:01:57
Felicia Devine
Now, my goal for this next pregnancy is to feel, my goal is to feel 50% better than I did my first pregnancy.
01:02:05
Natalie Richards
oh, I think that's like completely doable.
01:02:07
Felicia Devine
Do you think that's doable? Yeah.
01:02:09
Natalie Richards
So you,
01:02:12
Felicia Devine
Natalie's my acting doula, just in case you're new here, case you're newly listening, Natalie's my health advisor and my acting doula.
01:02:13
Natalie Richards
i know
01:02:19
Natalie Richards
Just the fact that you now eat more on the animal-based side of things, you are going to be so much better nourished from a mineral perspective.
01:02:23
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:02:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:02:29
Natalie Richards
Like that's just for sure.
01:02:29
Felicia Devine
Right.
01:02:32
Felicia Devine
Right.
01:02:33
Natalie Richards
are there so And Dan is too. So then you get the sperm health side of it to create a really healthy placenta, to create a really healthy pregnancy, to create good levels of minerals in your body.
01:02:35
Felicia Devine
Yes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:02:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:02:47
Felicia Devine
Right.
01:02:48
Natalie Richards
You're going to be at a completely different place.
01:02:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:02:50
Natalie Richards
But then that brings us to how do we optimize other things?
01:02:54
Felicia Devine
Right. I gotta be moving more.
01:02:54
Natalie Richards
So when I was, you do, you do. You have to make sure your foundation is good too. So like making sure you have, you know, magnesium is supplemented potentially.
01:03:00
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:03:04
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:03:05
Natalie Richards
i'm i'm trying to think back to when I was, before I got pregnant, I was kind of doing my foundational
Importance of Prenatal Supplements
01:03:10
Natalie Richards
stuff. So I was doing, i always do and
01:03:11
Felicia Devine
Okay.
01:03:14
Natalie Richards
a fat soluble vitamin. So A, D, E, K altogether.
01:03:16
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:03:18
Natalie Richards
I love that. That's like, that's huge.
01:03:19
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:03:20
Natalie Richards
a, a spore probiotic is kind of like in my general rotation all the time.
01:03:26
Felicia Devine
I use the one you gave me or the one you recommended.
01:03:28
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:03:29
Felicia Devine
okay
01:03:30
Natalie Richards
There's tons of them out there now because they're the probiospore.
01:03:31
Felicia Devine
think it's pro bioscore.
01:03:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:03:35
Natalie Richards
The other thing for fatty, for lipid bilayer protection is the phosphatidyl complex.
01:03:43
Natalie Richards
So I don't know Do you take the body bio PC?
01:03:43
Felicia Devine
I also have that.
01:03:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:47
Natalie Richards
Yep.
01:03:47
Felicia Devine
honey
01:03:47
Natalie Richards
And then Seeking Health has one too. So it's a little bit less expensive.
01:03:49
Felicia Devine
and okay
01:03:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:03:52
Felicia Devine
yeah
01:03:52
Natalie Richards
But that's very, very, very powerful for creating membranes.
01:03:55
Felicia Devine
know
01:03:57
Natalie Richards
Membranes are very important for us and for our developing babies.
01:04:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:04:04
Natalie Richards
What else? and live And I was doing an organ, a dried organ complex.
01:04:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:04:08
Natalie Richards
Back then i was doing one that tasted horrendous.
01:04:08
Felicia Devine
Yep.
01:04:11
Natalie Richards
Now i have we've figured that out.
01:04:11
Felicia Devine
I know. Same.
01:04:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:04:17
Felicia Devine
I don't know how heart and soil does it.
01:04:18
Felicia Devine
I mean, you can't taste anything, anything.
01:04:21
Natalie Richards
No, that's how the Designs for Health one is too.
01:04:23
Felicia Devine
who
01:04:23
Natalie Richards
The organ synergy. It's amazing.
01:04:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:04:27
Natalie Richards
So that essentially was my multivitamin or my my main source of vitamins was the organ complex.
01:04:30
Felicia Devine
Right. Same.
01:04:36
Natalie Richards
And that I think is like kind of what organs are there for.
01:04:37
Felicia Devine
Right.
01:04:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:04:41
Natalie Richards
They're nature's multivitamin. And when we're talking about nutrient density, those foods are the most nutrient dense things you can take.
01:04:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:04:45
Felicia Devine
here
01:04:51
Felicia Devine
and bioavailable, which means that like your body can process them more readily without as much energy than having to convert things in your body or converting synthetic into your body.
01:04:52
Natalie Richards
in bioavailable.
01:04:59
Natalie Richards
Yes.
01:05:02
Natalie Richards
Right.
01:05:06
Felicia Devine
Like a whole food is going to be infinitely more powerful and more energetically favorable than taking something that's synthetic, 100%.
01:05:06
Natalie Richards
Yep.
01:05:14
Natalie Richards
Absolutely. And when we come back to then the lovely liver again, your your liver is going to be, everyone has to.
01:05:14
Felicia Devine
hundred percent
01:05:17
Felicia Devine
Yes. Liver, liver, liver, liver. Everyone needs to take a liver. Everyone needs, everyone needs to take a liver supplement because everyone's liver needs help and support.
01:05:26
Natalie Richards
Absolutely. The more synthetic things you take though, the more your liver is going to have to process that in a little bit of a different way.
01:05:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:05:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:05:34
Natalie Richards
So you just want to give it as much help as you can.
01:05:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:05:38
Natalie Richards
The liver is also the culprit behind most of the pregnancy hypertension, most of the preeclampsia, most of the undesirable pregnancy symptoms that everybody's worried about.
01:05:56
Felicia Devine
Are
01:05:57
Natalie Richards
like gestational diabetes for sure, cholestasis.
01:05:58
Felicia Devine
I was going to say diabetes. Mm-hmm.
01:06:01
Natalie Richards
These are all like the heavy hitters of like you could actually have your birth outcome
01:06:02
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:06:08
Felicia Devine
Very.
01:06:08
Natalie Richards
change because of those.
01:06:09
Felicia Devine
And your baby's health.
01:06:11
Natalie Richards
And your baby's health is, yeah.
01:06:12
Felicia Devine
the The risk of like mortality.
01:06:15
Natalie Richards
Of actual like problems of you dying or your baby dying.
01:06:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yes. Your baby.
01:06:21
Natalie Richards
So the liver health is huge. If you have a ton of swelling in pregnancy, and that's liver.
01:06:23
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:06:26
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:06:28
Natalie Richards
So it When you're pregnant, your liver has to process bodily products, bodily breakdown products, a lot more than what it usually does.
01:06:35
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
01:06:38
Natalie Richards
So when we're talking about like toxic load again, decreasing that as much as possible so that you ideally don't develop all of those things.
01:06:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:06:47
Natalie Richards
And you can do gentle liver...
01:06:47
Felicia Devine
Right.
01:06:50
Natalie Richards
helping things while you're pregnant, liver support.
01:06:51
Felicia Devine
Support.
01:06:53
Natalie Richards
But before you become pregnant, that's way more important, way more important.
01:06:56
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
01:06:57
Natalie Richards
But like we'll talk about like during pregnancy later.
01:06:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Like the, the big detoxes. Yeah. Like my favorite big liver support and liver detox isn't ideal for when you're pregnant. It's the, the coffee enemas.
01:07:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:07:09
Felicia Devine
now you can do other things.
01:07:09
Natalie Richards
But you can do other things. You could do a nice liver tea. You could do just like, you can take liver.
01:07:13
Felicia Devine
who You can take liver.
01:07:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:07:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But what we're talking about with like the heavy support, the heavy detoxing, like we just like, that's the preconception that we're talking about.
01:07:25
Natalie Richards
That's what you can do when you're not pregnant.
01:07:25
Felicia Devine
Like this is the, the practice work, the prep work, because you want to prime your liver for being able to process all the toxins that you are going to take.
01:07:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:07:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:07:34
Natalie Richards
Okay. I'll mention this really quick. So like right before I got pregnant, maybe like, oh goodness, a month or two, maybe one cycle.
01:07:36
Felicia Devine
Okay.
01:07:38
Felicia Devine
Yes.
01:07:43
Natalie Richards
I don't even know.
01:07:44
Felicia Devine
Okay.
01:07:45
Natalie Richards
I had gotten really sick, like
Fasting, Illness, and Health Beliefs
01:07:47
Felicia Devine
No.
01:07:48
Natalie Richards
really sick.
01:07:49
Natalie Richards
I don't know if you remember, but my neck swelled to like outside of my head.
01:07:50
Felicia Devine
You're
01:07:55
Natalie Richards
Like it was
01:07:56
Felicia Devine
you're going to have to jog my memory. I don't remember this.
01:07:58
Natalie Richards
I was nearly like unable to breathe because I was, I refused, but like I probably should have.
01:08:01
Felicia Devine
Hospitalized?
01:08:06
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
01:08:07
Natalie Richards
i for a full week, I couldn't sleep because I couldn't breathe at night because my neck was so swollen.
01:08:13
Felicia Devine
Wait, was this your mold issue?
01:08:13
Natalie Richards
Like I had a, this was the essentially the mold issue.
01:08:16
Felicia Devine
Okay.
01:08:17
Natalie Richards
i was in my moldy apartment.
01:08:17
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah.
01:08:19
Natalie Richards
So it was a moldy apartment mixed with some sort of sickness.
01:08:23
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
01:08:23
Natalie Richards
And i was deathly ill. but I somehow pulled through.
01:08:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah, i literally deathly ill.
01:08:29
Natalie Richards
Deathly ill. I couldn't eat for at least three weeks. Like I i could eat maybe five pistachios was like my limit.
01:08:39
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. Because you couldn't swallow?
01:08:42
Natalie Richards
I just had zero appetite.
01:08:44
Felicia Devine
Appetite?
01:08:45
Natalie Richards
So I essentially cleared out my system.
01:08:47
Felicia Devine
You did a cleanse.
01:08:48
Natalie Richards
i did a three-week cleanse.
01:08:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:08:51
Natalie Richards
which I never would have been able to do without that.
01:08:56
Felicia Devine
You're like, and food is such an important part of me.
01:08:57
Natalie Richards
So I was clean as a whistle.
01:08:58
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
01:09:00
Natalie Richards
I was completely regenerated.
01:09:04
Felicia Devine
I read somewhere that if you fast for seven days at any point during your lifetime, it's protective in nature from cancer.
01:09:10
Natalie Richards
Correct.
01:09:11
Felicia Devine
I don't know the the percentage, but like it is, it like it cleans house.
01:09:12
Natalie Richards
No, it is. Yeah.
01:09:16
Felicia Devine
Now I will say I just had the flu.
01:09:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Even three days.
01:09:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:09:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah, and you couldn't eat.
01:09:20
Felicia Devine
And when I had the flu, I couldn't eat for six days.
01:09:21
Natalie Richards
I know.
01:09:22
Felicia Devine
So maybe this is my, my cleansed, my cleanse.
01:09:22
Natalie Richards
I know. You're cleansed. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
01:09:29
Felicia Devine
Cause I did that big cleanse before I got pregnant with Giuseppe.
01:09:31
Natalie Richards
vu
01:09:33
Felicia Devine
Now,
01:09:33
Natalie Richards
So sometimes it's a good thing to just like regenerate.
01:09:36
Felicia Devine
now this is a, This is little teaser, but next week I'm going to get Reiki done, which I have been hesitant to do since I had my interaction with the ghosts and the spirits when I had Reiki the first time.
01:09:44
Natalie Richards
Oh.
01:09:51
Natalie Richards
I know.
01:09:53
Felicia Devine
However, I'm going into it this time trying to connect with my future babies.
01:09:57
Natalie Richards
i love it.
01:09:58
Felicia Devine
So am – maybe next week's podcast we can talk about it.
01:10:03
Natalie Richards
Oh, let's talk about it. Oh, I love it.
01:10:05
Felicia Devine
know.
01:10:05
Natalie Richards
I love it.
01:10:06
Felicia Devine
I know. i know
01:10:08
Natalie Richards
So i think we like hit a lot of things today.
01:10:12
Felicia Devine
We hit so many things. We hit recaps.
01:10:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:10:14
Felicia Devine
We hit, we hit like some knowledge.
01:10:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:10:16
Felicia Devine
We hit some like advice and some tangible things you can work on.
01:10:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yep.
Incorporating Animal Products for Health
01:10:20
Felicia Devine
and if you're a vegetarian or a vegan, get the, no, I'm just kidding.
01:10:21
Natalie Richards
Yep.
01:10:24
Natalie Richards
Maybe start eating some eggs if you can at the very least and maybe start taking a liver supplement and drinking bone broth.
01:10:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Natalie says it so kindly.
01:10:32
Natalie Richards
And that's all you need.
01:10:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:10:33
Natalie Richards
That's all you need really. Please just do it. Please. Just a little. Okay.
01:10:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah, just and incorporate a little bit of animal.
01:10:40
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:10:41
Felicia Devine
A little goes a long way.
01:10:42
Natalie Richards
I know. i get that there's an ethical component. i get that, the honestly, the health component I feel has been completely debunked.
01:10:52
Natalie Richards
i All you have to do is talk to anybody who's been vegan for more than a few years and ask them what they're what their health issues are.
01:11:02
Felicia Devine
Don't ask me.
01:11:03
Natalie Richards
Ask them how many teeth they've broken. ask them, oh, that's a real thing.
01:11:06
Felicia Devine
my God.
01:11:10
Felicia Devine
Good thing I know a lot of dentists, but I never broke my teeth though.
01:11:10
Natalie Richards
real. Thank goodness.
01:11:13
Felicia Devine
Thank goodness. I think I did it pretty well, but like you said, like I just was missing so much opportunity.
01:11:15
Natalie Richards
You did. You did. Yeah. And you can still eat all the vegetables you want to eat.
01:11:21
Felicia Devine
So yeah.
01:11:24
Natalie Richards
Just dabble with a little steak here and there.
01:11:27
Felicia Devine
here
01:11:27
Natalie Richards
Just a little.
01:11:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's it for episode six. Thanks for joining us. Next week, we're going to talk about some more fun things and we'll kind of recap my Reiki.
01:11:38
Natalie Richards
Whatever we decide we're going to talk about.
01:11:43
Felicia Devine
So we'll see you next time.
01:11:45
Natalie Richards
Bye.