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Ep 16 - Steez (style+ease) Season
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It’s the daylight-savings fever dream where our kids sleep in, our hatch clocks gaslight us, and our closets stage a revolt. We unpack Gen Z slang (six-seven, anyone?), why polyester makes our nervous systems hiss, the case for natural fibers (hi, cotton and cashmere), and how to build real-life mom-steez: streetwear silhouettes, practical shoes, and zero itch. Also on deck: chronotypes, prenatals that don’t make you gag, animal-based protein swaps, and Natalie volunteering as tribute to be Felicia’s doula. It’s chaotic. It’s crunchy. It’s comfy.
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Transcript
Intro
Greetings and Daylight Savings
00:00:51
Felicia Devine
Hello and welcome back to episode 16.
00:00:53
Natalie Richards
Hey, Felicia.
00:00:54
Felicia Devine
Hey Natalie.
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Natalie Richards
So happy to talk to you.
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Felicia Devine
Happy daylight savings.
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Natalie Richards
oh my gosh. I actually do feel like it's a happy day.
00:01:04
Felicia Devine
It's a great day. Honestly, our weather is banging right now.
00:01:08
Natalie Richards
yeah ah Agreed.
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Felicia Devine
That was such a weird.
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Natalie Richards
It's like that banging.
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Felicia Devine
It's banging outside. It's like it's popping
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Natalie Richards
We're such millennials.
Decoding Gen Z Slang
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Felicia Devine
off.
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Natalie Richards
ah Gen Z could never.
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Felicia Devine
What's a Gen Z like that's hot word? Bet. Wait, no.
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Natalie Richards
Oh, God.
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Felicia Devine
What does bet mean?
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Natalie Richards
What does what does six seven mean?
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Felicia Devine
Oh, I learned.
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Natalie Richards
i need to know.
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Felicia Devine
Okay. Okay.
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Natalie Richards
Like, what does it mean?
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Felicia Devine
So I've had multiple patients in that are like middle school to high school age boys.
00:01:37
Felicia Devine
it's It's a, I feel like the boys more so.
00:01:37
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Natalie Richards
They started out. Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Okay. So my interpretation of what it means is that it's like mid-year-old. It's like, it's subpar, like subpar.
00:01:46
Natalie Richards
I don't even know what that – I don't even know what that means.
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Felicia Devine
It's like not awesome and it's not bad.
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Natalie Richards
Okay.
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Felicia Devine
So it's a rating. It's like, oh, it's a six or seven out of 10. Like six, seven.
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Felicia Devine
i think that's what that means.
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Natalie Richards
Really?
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Natalie Richards
Somebody told me it meant like thanks.
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Felicia Devine
What?
00:02:04
Natalie Richards
I cannot,
Generational Slang Differences
00:02:05
Felicia Devine
What?
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Natalie Richards
which doesn't make any sense.
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Natalie Richards
It makes way more sense that it would be like a mid, like mid would be much.
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Felicia Devine
It's like a rating.
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Natalie Richards
Of course.
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Felicia Devine
It's like, oh, how was your meal? Six, seven?
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Felicia Devine
Wait, that's the interpretation I got from my kids.
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Natalie Richards
Maybe nobody actually knows.
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Felicia Devine
No. And then a dad tried to interpret it for me. And i was literally like, sir, you're confused. Don't speak. He couldn't comprehend what he was saying. And I'm like, you can't explain something like that.
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Natalie Richards
This isn't helping.
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Felicia Devine
No. And then he just kept saying it slower. And he's like, six, seven. I'm like, okay, you're not doing a good job.
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Natalie Richards
Not getting the point.
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Felicia Devine
It was interesting.
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Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
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Felicia Devine
But yeah, I got the interpretation that it's like a mid,
Style and 'Steez' Across Generations
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Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
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Felicia Devine
like it's mid.
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Felicia Devine
I don't even know if I'm using mid right.
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Natalie Richards
I don't know.
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Felicia Devine
Ooh.
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Natalie Richards
I couldn't even tell you what the slang is. like
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Felicia Devine
I don't know.
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Natalie Richards
is steez still a thing or is that more like our generation?
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Felicia Devine
What is steez?
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Natalie Richards
Steez. I don't know. i can't. and don't have the
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Felicia Devine
What is it? what How would you interpret that? Or use it in a sentence.
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Natalie Richards
Steez I think is like style mixed with vibes mixed with
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Felicia Devine
Steez. I've never heard that.
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Natalie Richards
that's all I got.
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Natalie Richards
I'm going to look it up. I'm going to look it up.
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Felicia Devine
I've never heard of that. Have I heard of that? I don't think I've ever heard of that.
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Natalie Richards
I don't know if that's like an old older thing or if that's a newer thing.
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Felicia Devine
Oh, I don't know. I keep hiring Gen Zs though.
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Natalie Richards
Steez.
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Felicia Devine
i I have three Gen Zs I work with. Four, if you count my social media manager.
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Natalie Richards
Steez.
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Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. you need We need them in our lives because I don't know what any of this stuff means.
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Felicia Devine
know, I literally, I have a chronic condition of saying they're our age in reference to I'm the same age as my employees. I'm like, we're 10, 12 years apart.
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Natalie Richards
Right.
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Felicia Devine
They're our age.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah, that's a problem.
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Natalie Richards
So far away.
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Felicia Devine
So little far away. I still identify as 25.
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Natalie Richards
oh my God. I do too. I don't think I ever will not.
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Felicia Devine
I kinda like it. Yeah.
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Natalie Richards
I've and i've identified as 25 since I was 15.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah.
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Natalie Richards
So I'm just like,
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Felicia Devine
Oh yeah, we talked about that. Natalie was clubbing when she was 15.
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Natalie Richards
I was actually. um Okay. Steez. S-T-E-E-Z.
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Felicia Devine
Okay, in reference to what does it mean?
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Natalie Richards
slang term that combines style and ease. Is that not what I just said?
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Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
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Natalie Richards
wait what did I just say?
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Felicia Devine
No, you said vibe, didn't you?
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Natalie Richards
Vibe. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Felicia Devine
Well, whatever.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah, I did. I did.
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Felicia Devine
We...
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Natalie Richards
Having a confident, effortless, and impressive style.
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Felicia Devine
Okay, I feel like I'm entering my steez era.
Wardrobe Evolution and Comfort
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Natalie Richards
Okay. This definitely is not a new term. This is from 80s.
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Felicia Devine
Oh.
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Natalie Richards
The term emerged from hip hop culture in the nineteen eighty s Oh, but now it's becoming more popular with younger generations.
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Felicia Devine
Thank God.
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Natalie Richards
Okay.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
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Natalie Richards
Anyway, i we ah dated myself. Whatever.
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Felicia Devine
Okay, so speaking of steez, I am trying to do a closet overhaul.
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Natalie Richards
Oh, boy.
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Felicia Devine
Oh, she's rough.
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Natalie Richards
i really need to do that too.
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Felicia Devine
Well, the part of me that's like holding on to like pieces of clothing pre-baby, like I need to get over it.
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Felicia Devine
A, it's not stylish for me anymore. Like skinny jeans that just suck my stomach in and invert me.
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Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
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Natalie Richards
ah
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Felicia Devine
Like I don't need that.
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Natalie Richards
Right. Where you can't breathe and everything's like your stomach is up inside of your rib cage.
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Felicia Devine
no. what
00:05:41
Felicia Devine
That was literally like pre-baby. And I i just like, I'm holding onto them thinking, oh, what if I fit in them again? No, no one should fit in those again.
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Natalie Richards
know.
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Natalie Richards
I know. i know
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Felicia Devine
I'm really leaning towards it.
00:05:52
Natalie Richards
oh no
00:05:52
Felicia Devine
I wore this outfit to
Capsule Wardrobes vs. Shopping Habits
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Felicia Devine
work the other day. And my so my team was there because we do social media filming, like batch content twice a month. So Brooke was in and she's like, Felicia, nice outfit. And I was like, thank you, Brooke.
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Felicia Devine
I got dressed.
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Natalie Richards
Was this like a nice outfit or was this like a, ooh, nice outfit, Felicia?
00:06:14
Felicia Devine
Well, I thought I nailed it. And like, honestly, I still will wear it again because I thought it was so fresh. So this male patient of mine who was in the day before, he's like 15.
00:06:27
Felicia Devine
fifteen He was wearing this like loose cargo jean slides, like um like a clog, like a Birkenstock clog.
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Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
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Felicia Devine
Okay. Long white shirt that was sticking out of a loose knit sweater.
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Natalie Richards
Okay.
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Felicia Devine
It was so chic. And I was like, love your outfit. So what did I do? I recreated it the next day.
00:06:51
Natalie Richards
Okay. I love that.
00:06:52
Felicia Devine
And I thought I looked so chic. And Brooke was like, it's giving Justin Bieber. And I said, that's a compliment. was
00:07:02
Natalie Richards
That's what I was going for.
00:07:03
Felicia Devine
like, I got dressed as a 15 year old boy yesterday.
00:07:07
Natalie Richards
I love you taking style advice and inspiration from a 15-year-old boy.
00:07:07
Felicia Devine
I thought, oh, yes. But it was so chic.
00:07:12
Natalie Richards
Love that for you.
00:07:13
Felicia Devine
And I literally told him, I was like, I love your outfit. And he was like, thank you. And what else? said Oh, and then I put on like ah like a baseball cap, not a trucker hat, like a baseball cap with my hair and like a a messy ponytail.
00:07:24
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:07:27
Felicia Devine
I thought I looked fabulous. And then I was like, oh my God, this is so comfortable. Everything was loose and baggy, but I was like, I look great. So we'll see when the, we will see when the content comes out if I look as chic as I thought. But like,
00:07:41
Felicia Devine
I don't know I'm trying to make my closet more efficient because right now I look at it and I'm like, Ooh, I don't like that.
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Natalie Richards
I can't wait. I know.
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Felicia Devine
I don't like how that fits. I don't like how that's like, that hangs on me. Yeah.
00:07:51
Natalie Richards
I love like the idea of a capsule wardrobe except that I like – I have a shopping addiction.
00:07:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:58
Natalie Richards
So I have a hard time with that because I like a lot of things.
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Felicia Devine
yeah
00:08:02
Felicia Devine
I, I don't have enough things. And Dan is going to murder me when I say that.
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Natalie Richards
Enough things that you're really – yeah, he's going to be like, Felicia. Yeah.
00:08:10
Felicia Devine
yeah like We got a problem if you don't think of enough things.
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Natalie Richards
you don't have enough things to like actually create a a piece, like a ah cohesive look.
00:08:15
Felicia Devine
A piece, a look.
00:08:19
Felicia Devine
the The Justin Bieber outfit I put together was pieces.
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Natalie Richards
Yes.
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Felicia Devine
And I thought it looked great because it was like the white t-shirt with the sweater, with the hat, with the pant, with the shoe.
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Natalie Richards
and Right.
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Natalie Richards
Right.
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Felicia Devine
That's one outfit. I can't redo that. How do I do that over and over again? I don't have enough items to make one outfit.
00:08:35
Natalie Richards
Right.
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Felicia Devine
Does that make sense?
00:08:36
Natalie Richards
Do you still do the rental thing that you
Clothing Rentals and Sizing Challenges
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Natalie Richards
were doing? what
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Felicia Devine
I, it actually, but or it's called Nuuly.
00:08:40
Natalie Richards
What was that called? Yeah. Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
I've been Nuuly-ing for like five years.
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Natalie Richards
i know
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Felicia Devine
I Nuuly'd before Nuuly was cool.
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Natalie Richards
I know you did. You were like the OG Nuuly user.
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Felicia Devine
I was, but I've run into the problem. Now, I don't know if it's a me problem or a Nuuly problem. There's nothing in my size.
00:09:00
Natalie Richards
Oh, because it's all.
00:09:01
Felicia Devine
and So I paused it
00:09:02
Natalie Richards
I see. Uh-huh.
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Felicia Devine
It's like, I love the piece and then I go to rent it and it's like out of stock.
00:09:05
Natalie Richards
Shoot.
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Felicia Devine
And I'm like, that kind of annoys me because I'm an OG.
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Natalie Richards
Shoot.
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Felicia Devine
I should have priority.
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Natalie Richards
Because it's what everybody – yeah, because it's what everybody wants.
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Felicia Devine
It's what everybody wants. And I feel like I'm like a generic size. I'm like an eight female, mid-size female.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah. yeah ye yep Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
I don't know. So paused it. It actually resumes now that I'm talking about it with you. My renewal comes up November 6th. So I either need to like keep pushing my pause or cancel.
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Felicia Devine
Cause I'm just like, not, I don't know.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah. ah
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Felicia Devine
I just like, yeah.
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Natalie Richards
It's hard. Sometimes I really just like the idea of owning a piece. you know? And just like, i i just do Like I just can't get behind like spending money on something that I then can't keep and then decide later I want to give away.
00:09:41
Felicia Devine
I love owning. I love owning a piece, Natalie. I agree.
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Felicia Devine
I like, but i I love a rental piece for something that's like a one-off event, a wedding, a trip, an event, a photo shoot.
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Natalie Richards
For sure. For sure. Totally. Totally. Like I will never wear this again.
00:10:03
Felicia Devine
I want to, yeah, exactly. Cause I don't want to be seen in it again.
00:10:07
Natalie Richards
Sure. Sure.
00:10:08
Felicia Devine
Now, I don't know. So I i need to go through it I need to clean out things that are old and don't fit me and are not my style. And I don't know what my style is, but I think it's gonna I think it's going to be Justin Bieber streetwear.
00:10:15
Natalie Richards
hu
00:10:19
Felicia Devine
Like,
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Felicia Devine
That's where I'm headed.
00:10:23
Natalie Richards
Justin Bieber, streetwear slash mom slash 15-year-old boy.
00:10:26
Felicia Devine
Like, I love a baggy look. And I don't think I'll ever not love a baggy look.
00:10:29
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:10:31
Felicia Devine
I loved a baggy look before.
00:10:31
Natalie Richards
I know you do. You did.
00:10:33
Felicia Devine
Like, i'm I've always been like a free people loose thing. But now that I discovered that one outfit, I'm like, oh, I got a taste of, i got a taste of joy.
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Natalie Richards
and So how do you then go and get inspiration for those outfits?
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Felicia Devine
watch 15-year-old
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Natalie Richards
You just go on TikTok, I guess.
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Felicia Devine
What?
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Felicia Devine
fifteen year old boys
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Natalie Richards
I don't know.
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Natalie Richards
I guess.
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Felicia Devine
Wait, did I tell you about the haircut situation that's happening?
00:10:58
Natalie Richards
No.
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Felicia Devine
oh Natalie.
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Natalie Richards
Is it a new haircut such for you or for other people?
00:11:02
Felicia Devine
No. Well, my haircut's a problem because I just keep chopping it shorter and shorter. I'm not going have hair.
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Natalie Richards
Every time I see you, it's shorter. I just cut my own hair the other day. i was like, we're just going to chip chop.
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Felicia Devine
Did you? Why'd you do that? Just for like frayed edge?
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Natalie Richards
I just looked at it and I go, it's not for me.
00:11:16
Felicia Devine
No, not for me.
00:11:18
Natalie Richards
Bye.
00:11:20
Felicia Devine
Wait, can you chop your hair like I did? I think you'd look great with short hair.
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Natalie Richards
I have had it before and then I get annoyed and then I get annoyed for the next year as it's growing out.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Natalie Richards
And then I just, I don't know.
00:11:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay. So don't chop it. Okay.
00:11:33
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I could. I do need to like, I think I need to do one more chop of it. I am getting it done very soon.
00:11:38
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:11:40
Natalie Richards
So we'll see what I come out with.
00:11:40
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:11:42
Natalie Richards
Maybe I will.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:43
Natalie Richards
Maybe I will.
00:11:44
Felicia Devine
I don't know. I, yeah, I don't know.
00:11:49
Natalie Richards
Okay. Let's talk about um let's talk about materials because I have now given myself a rule that I can't buy something that's polyester ever
Fabric Preferences and Age Sensitivity
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Natalie Richards
again.
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Felicia Devine
Natalie, I was going to bring this up in conversation today because I was shopping right before we came on and I was like, oh, I have a great topic to bring up with Natalie.
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Natalie Richards
Beautiful.
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Felicia Devine
Continue. i' will add to this.
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Natalie Richards
Beautiful.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
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Natalie Richards
I have pretty much given that rule to myself. Like if it is not a natural material in a ah a color that is not offensive.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
What's your season? Did we talk about this? you have a season?
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Natalie Richards
Oh, and like color season.
00:12:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:33
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I don't know what I am. I think I know what I am just by what I typically wear. i like blues. I like white. i like black I like,
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Felicia Devine
Okay, so did you know the only season that has stark white and stark black is winter?
00:12:49
Natalie Richards
I think I, of course I'm a winter. How would I not how would I not be a winter?
00:12:51
Felicia Devine
Oh
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Natalie Richards
Like this, is that Giuseppe?
00:12:58
Felicia Devine
my God, Dan's home. He...
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Felicia Devine
Poor kid.
00:13:01
Natalie Richards
Dan's going to be like, are you killing our child?
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Felicia Devine
No, no, he's with Dan right now. Dan went and got him, but I don't, I think he's crying cause he's so sleepy.
00:13:05
Natalie Richards
Oh, he's with Dan. Oh, okay. For sure. oh poor maybe
00:13:10
Felicia Devine
All right.
00:13:12
Felicia Devine
Whoops. Um, no, he's literally in the kitchen.
00:13:14
Natalie Richards
Burn the monitor down. oh you can – oh, no
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Felicia Devine
Yeah. I'm sorry.
00:13:20
Natalie Richards
Oh, baby boy.
00:13:21
Felicia Devine
He's sleepy. Uh, he's fighting his nap. So, okay.
00:13:24
Natalie Richards
we'll talk We'll go back to daylight savings in a second.
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Felicia Devine
Um,
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Felicia Devine
What's so crazy though is you and I have similar features, but you and I look very different in the same clothes.
00:13:32
Natalie Richards
And it's so true.
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Felicia Devine
so Like, yes.
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Natalie Richards
You can wear more like fall-y type colors. Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
i yeah. So I'm a, what, what I discovered is it has to be a true color. It can't be like a muted or a milky or a faded.
00:13:44
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:13:48
Natalie Richards
Yes.
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Felicia Devine
It has to be like stark blue.
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Natalie Richards
No pastels.
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Felicia Devine
No, no class cells and no, like I, which is sad because as I'm sitting in a,
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Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
olive green chair.
00:13:57
Felicia Devine
Oh, bought that chair. and Talk to my designer about that. Um, but like the earthy milky, like muted colors are not for me.
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Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:14:10
Natalie Richards
Okay. Interesting.
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Felicia Devine
I had to wear like sky blue, true red, like those like true colors.
00:14:13
Natalie Richards
Yes. Okay. Okay. Mm-hmm.
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Felicia Devine
And I'm like red.
00:14:17
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
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Felicia Devine
Like, it's like, um, but yeah.
00:14:19
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Like this color brown I have on is not for me. It's just not.
00:14:23
Felicia Devine
Oh,
00:14:24
Natalie Richards
I love this piece, but it's not for me.
00:14:26
Felicia Devine
It's not for me.
00:14:29
Felicia Devine
I really want to get into dyeing clothing, but i don't I don't have time for that.
00:14:32
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:14:34
Felicia Devine
But honestly, might if I pick out, because I'm going to go through my closet and I'm going find the items that I love but are just not in my right color palette and see if I can dye them.
00:14:43
Natalie Richards
h
00:14:43
Felicia Devine
Because stark white is not for me, but like ah cream white, like an oatmeal, an oatmeal.
00:14:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yes. Yes is good for you.
00:14:51
Felicia Devine
That's for me.
00:14:52
Natalie Richards
oh Okay.
00:14:53
Felicia Devine
So if I can get my nice white pieces and then just like oatmeal them, I i love the idea of it.
00:14:57
Natalie Richards
Sure. why not? Just wash them in the washing machine with like a new brown sweatshirt.
00:15:05
Felicia Devine
Okay, I'll go out and buy a new brand sweatshirt. If that's what you mean.
00:15:10
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:15:10
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:15:10
Natalie Richards
Go buy something else.
00:15:11
Felicia Devine
Okay, so back to your comment about like if something is not like an organic material.
00:15:16
Natalie Richards
Okay. Yeah.
00:15:17
Felicia Devine
Okay, so I was listening to this influencer talk a couple months ago and she was like, you know, I decided that I'm at the age now where I need to wear 100% cotton.
00:15:31
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, huh, I wonder.
00:15:31
Natalie Richards
What age does that come to be?
00:15:33
Felicia Devine
I go, what age is that? I'm curious.
00:15:35
Natalie Richards
Is that like perimenopausal when you feel like you're sweating when you're having hot flashes?
00:15:37
Felicia Devine
No.
00:15:40
Natalie Richards
Is that the reason?
00:15:40
Felicia Devine
Maybe, maybe. But then I i was like, huh, I wonder what age that is.
00:15:42
Natalie Richards
Like linen and cotton?
00:15:46
Felicia Devine
And I moved on. And I was like, it's not me right now. Okay, fast forward three months. I've realized that I'm overstimulated in clothes that are not cotton.
00:15:56
Natalie Richards
Because, yeah your nervous system is picking up on it.
00:15:56
Felicia Devine
I'm overstimulated. My system is literally... its I will look at my underwear drawer and I will go, not today, not today. Those are for tomorrow.
00:16:08
Felicia Devine
Like I need a cotton pair of underwear.
00:16:10
Natalie Richards
Cotton. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:11
Felicia Devine
So before we got on, I was shopping for cotton underwear because I don't have enough cotton underwear. Like I have, I think I have three pairs of cotton underwear that I'm like, Ooh, got to save that for like the right day.
00:16:20
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:16:21
Felicia Devine
Because if I'm in the same with socks, I just realized this about me with socks.
00:16:21
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:16:26
Felicia Devine
I get overstimulated in a sock that doesn't fit right.
00:16:28
Natalie Richards
How interesting.
00:16:28
Felicia Devine
And that's not cotton.
00:16:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Polyester has like a different vibration than linen and cotton.
00:16:34
Felicia Devine
I hate it.
00:16:36
Natalie Richards
And I mean, yeah.
00:16:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I'm that age now.
00:16:39
Natalie Richards
So have you heard of quince?
00:16:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah. All right.
00:16:42
Felicia Devine
I hit the age. The age is 32 and a half.
00:16:46
Natalie Richards
It's right now.
00:16:47
Felicia Devine
It's right now. It's it's happening.
00:16:49
Natalie Richards
Have you heard of quince? Q-U, yeah, yeah.
00:16:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I was shopping.
00:16:52
Natalie Richards
i but I have bought so many things from there.
00:16:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah. They have a very cute oversized boyfriend organic 100% cotton sweater that I was looking at.
00:16:55
Natalie Richards
So many things.
00:16:59
Natalie Richards
Yes, yes. I buy lots of cashmere there.
00:17:01
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:17:02
Natalie Richards
i buy
00:17:02
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:17:03
Natalie Richards
I've bought like leather bags and I mean a lot of things.
00:17:05
Felicia Devine
Oh
00:17:09
Felicia Devine
yeah. Natalie will never be vegan because she loves leather.
00:17:11
Natalie Richards
like And fur and all of it.
00:17:13
Felicia Devine
o
00:17:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah, sorry,
00:17:14
Felicia Devine
here
00:17:15
Natalie Richards
can't
00:17:16
Felicia Devine
Can't be me.
00:17:17
Natalie Richards
Sorry, shearling, leather, fur, all of it.
00:17:21
Felicia Devine
You love it.
00:17:22
Natalie Richards
I just do I can't help it.
00:17:23
Felicia Devine
I would be so curious if you're actually a winter and if you're not a winter, like how do you become a winter? Like we have to like change your feature. ah You're a winter.
00:17:31
Felicia Devine
There's no question.
00:17:31
Natalie Richards
i am ah i don't think there's any I don't think there's any doubt in my mind.
00:17:35
Felicia Devine
Your wardrobe is like 90% black.
00:17:38
Natalie Richards
Yes. I need to look up and silver.
00:17:40
Felicia Devine
And silver. You love silver.
00:17:42
Natalie Richards
Yes. I need to look up what and what actual winter colors are
Color Theory and Personal Style
00:17:47
Felicia Devine
So winter is. Yeah, it is because it's it's true white, true black, silver. And then it's your like stark jewel tones, I believe.
00:17:47
Natalie Richards
because I'm pretty sure it's everything that I wear.
00:17:57
Natalie Richards
It's – yes, it's like a – yeah, they're like – they're brighter colors.
00:18:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah, they're it's not your olive green. It's not your like.
00:18:04
Natalie Richards
No.
00:18:04
Felicia Devine
me
00:18:05
Natalie Richards
No. It would be like teals and –
00:18:10
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:18:12
Natalie Richards
and like blues and greens and aquas and all of that stuff.
00:18:15
Felicia Devine
What's your green? What's your favorite green to wear? I see you in a green sometimes.
00:18:20
Natalie Richards
I do love green. I love like a – do I wear green though?
00:18:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:18:26
Felicia Devine
I've seen you in a green and I i want to say it was almost like, um not what's the jewel tone? That's green.
00:18:33
Natalie Richards
i mean everything about my office is winter.
00:18:33
Felicia Devine
What's?
00:18:36
Natalie Richards
Like it's – the walls in my office are literally teal.
00:18:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah.
00:18:40
Felicia Devine
What is Giuseppe's first tone?
00:18:42
Natalie Richards
oh like ah
00:18:43
Felicia Devine
What's green?
00:18:44
Natalie Richards
Emerald?
00:18:45
Felicia Devine
Emerald. I see you in emerald.
00:18:48
Natalie Richards
do i have and Do I own anything emerald? I'll have to look.
00:18:51
Felicia Devine
I don't know if you do.
00:18:52
Natalie Richards
I should probably if I don't.
00:18:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:18:56
Natalie Richards
I'm going to do the same thing. I'm going to get rid of everything that's really not my color. oh moonlit winter colors. That is me. I don't know if you can see that.
00:19:06
Natalie Richards
It's probably not going to come out the right colors.
00:19:06
Felicia Devine
Let me see. Oh yeah. Wait, what is that winter?
00:19:10
Natalie Richards
Moonlit winter.
00:19:12
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:19:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. i
00:19:14
Natalie Richards
It's like blue. It's blues and greens. And i just, I'm not a huge like red person in general, but I guess I could wear red.
00:19:20
Felicia Devine
Oh, you want to hear a fun fact?
00:19:22
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:19:24
Felicia Devine
Because I got my colors done. She told me this and it stuck with me. Every single season, every single person looks great in true red.
00:19:33
Natalie Richards
ah Oh, interesting.
00:19:34
Felicia Devine
True red, not like dark red, not muted red, not like orangey red.
00:19:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:19:39
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:19:40
Felicia Devine
It's like true red is good on every single person.
00:19:41
Natalie Richards
True red. I can see that. That would, yeah, like your hat.
00:19:44
Felicia Devine
So when in doubt, yeah, when in doubt, go true red. And red is for the person of the hour, okay?
00:19:49
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:19:53
Felicia Devine
Like you're the graduate, you're the birthday girl, you're guest speaker.
00:19:54
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:19:59
Felicia Devine
True red, ooh.
00:19:59
Natalie Richards
It makes sense.
00:20:01
Felicia Devine
guest speaker true red
00:20:04
Natalie Richards
It makes sense.
00:20:05
Felicia Devine
Never misses. Don't wear true red to a wedding.
00:20:09
Natalie Richards
Can you imagine?
00:20:10
Felicia Devine
Don't be that girl. Natalie, one time I wore white to a wedding. Who was I?
00:20:15
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:20:15
Felicia Devine
What was I doing?
00:20:16
Natalie Richards
You didn't even and realize.
00:20:17
Felicia Devine
Rude. No, it was honestly, it was such a mistake.
00:20:19
Natalie Richards
were so young.
00:20:21
Felicia Devine
It was such a, I wasn't invited to the wedding. Yeah.
00:20:26
Natalie Richards
Maybe it was your subcon so your subconscious saying, I'm not invited and I'm going to wreak havoc.
00:20:29
Felicia Devine
Well,
00:20:33
Felicia Devine
And I'm going to go anyway. It was this ex-boyfriend. I was visiting accidentally. I forget how it worked out.
00:20:42
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:20:42
Felicia Devine
I was visiting, but it was like the weekend of the wedding. So they like were like, oh, I guess she could come to the reception. But I wasn't invited like at all. I got none of the invite.
00:20:51
Natalie Richards
And you only had one outfit, yeah.
00:20:51
Felicia Devine
And that was the only dress I had. it was the only dress I had with me because I was literally driving across the country to go to college, pit stopped at this place.
00:20:56
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:21:00
Natalie Richards
I see.
00:21:01
Felicia Devine
And that's all I had with me. So I wore ah white dress.
00:21:02
Natalie Richards
Can you imagine what they were thinking? This girl is the ex-girlfriend.
00:21:07
Felicia Devine
I will never know because I, yeah, I will never know because I don't, I don't associate with one single person that was there.
00:21:14
Natalie Richards
Okay, whatever. Good.
00:21:15
Felicia Devine
So sorry.
00:21:16
Natalie Richards
Bye.
00:21:17
Felicia Devine
Sorry, sorry. Didn't mean to.
00:21:19
Natalie Richards
that's funny.
00:21:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So yeah.
00:21:22
Natalie Richards
it's It just happened. It's okay.
00:21:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:24
Natalie Richards
It's okay.
00:21:25
Felicia Devine
um Anyway, do you want to talk about daylight savings? Because
00:21:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah, we need to go back to that. Right.
00:21:31
Felicia Devine
What's currently transpiring in my house is so on brand
00:21:33
Natalie Richards
We were like, oh, let's 1230 when Seth usually naps.
00:21:38
Felicia Devine
with you shall speak it and it shall backfire.
00:21:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah. let's do twelve thirty whenap usually
00:21:49
Felicia Devine
Steffi is rebelling against authority.
00:21:53
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
00:21:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah. All right. So let's let's rewind. Technology. Technology.
00:21:57
Natalie Richards
Tell me... okay.
00:21:59
Felicia Devine
Technology just confuses the daylight's enemy. And maybe that's where that saying comes from, Natalie. I didn't even, that wasn't even on purpose.
00:22:06
Natalie Richards
Here's another thing. Look at that.
00:22:10
Felicia Devine
Is that even the saying?
00:22:11
Natalie Richards
It's got to be.
00:22:11
Felicia Devine
Confuse the daylight's enemy.
00:22:13
Natalie Richards
That's the saying.
00:22:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it's confusing the daylight's enemy.
00:22:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:16
Felicia Devine
ah Yeah, that's very true right now.
00:22:19
Felicia Devine
So I wake up this morning and it's like what I perceive to be 6 a.m. because my phone says 6 ? But my clock in my house says 6 a.m.
00:22:19
Natalie Richards
It's...
00:22:31
Natalie Richards
Wait, what?
00:22:32
Felicia Devine
Okay. Hear me out. I'm like, oh, so daylight savings didn't happen yet. Okay. Because again, I'm confused. i don't understand time.
00:22:41
Natalie Richards
I don't think it happens until 3 a.m.
00:22:44
Felicia Devine
Well, it was 6
00:22:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that's so weird.
00:22:47
Felicia Devine
Okay. So I'm like, oh, I'll go back to bed. I couldn't have cared to Google it. I was like, I'm going back to sleep. Just that piece sleep. I'm going back to sleep. So I go back to bed and I wake up at 7.15 and I'm like, huh, it's still 7.15 on my phone and 7.15 on the clock.
00:23:02
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, how is this happening? It's like a clock that's plugged into a wall.
00:23:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:23:06
Felicia Devine
and I'm like, did it not happen? Did we vote against it? Like, i was like, oh, maybe it didn't happen.
00:23:10
Natalie Richards
Did.
00:23:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah, maybe it's not happening in Pennsylvania.
00:23:15
Felicia Devine
It's a hatch clock.
00:23:17
Natalie Richards
Oh, it did it for you.
00:23:18
Felicia Devine
It's smarter than I am. It automatically reset. And ah first off, I think there's a lot of controversy with Hatch right now.
00:23:25
Natalie Richards
There is
00:23:26
Felicia Devine
I completely took the Hatch out of Sep's room.
00:23:29
Natalie Richards
ah
00:23:30
Felicia Devine
So there's nothing in there that's Hatch, but I have a Hatch clock.
00:23:34
Natalie Richards
o
00:23:35
Felicia Devine
And it reset itself and confused me
00:23:37
Natalie Richards
It's smart. Wow. Wow.
00:23:40
Felicia Devine
I was so boggled. i woke up and my brain could not comprehend. And also my eyes were so bloodshot this morning. I was like blinking and I was like, did I sleep with my eyeballs open?
00:23:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah, what happened?
00:23:50
Felicia Devine
I couldn't believe it. They were like bloodshot.
00:23:52
Natalie Richards
Okay, I did wake up and I was, my fingers were like so swollen.
00:23:56
Felicia Devine
What?
00:23:56
Natalie Richards
I was like, what happened last night? Like, I don't understand. Okay.
00:24:01
Felicia Devine
I don't know what happened last night either. Wait, do you wear your rings when you sleep?
00:24:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah. My wedding ring. Yeah.
00:24:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:07
Natalie Richards
I've been, I've been taking a break from the aura for a little bit, just for like, but just for like a month.
00:24:10
Felicia Devine
why
00:24:11
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I just feel like not really.
00:24:12
Felicia Devine
Is it because you're like overt you over, you overanalyze
00:24:15
Natalie Richards
i just, I don't know. I just said, eh, I'll just wait. I also need a new one because the battery only lasts like a day and a half at this point. And I just got sick of charging it.
00:24:22
Felicia Devine
Oh, charging it.
00:24:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:25
Natalie Richards
So we'll come back to it.
00:24:27
Natalie Richards
I'll come back to it.
00:24:27
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:24:28
Natalie Richards
But okay. So Jean slept until
00:24:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:33
Natalie Richards
eight 8.15 today, which means that 9.15.
00:24:36
Felicia Devine
which is 9.15,
00:24:39
Natalie Richards
And granted, yeah, he went to sleep like late last night, but no later than he usually does.
00:24:39
Felicia Devine
right?
00:24:44
Natalie Richards
Why in the world did he sleep until 9.15 on this day? Like, that's so weird.
00:24:50
Felicia Devine
Slept till I had to wake him up at nine.
00:24:51
Natalie Richards
That's so weird.
00:24:53
Felicia Devine
And don't they usually wake up the opposite? Like they wake up too early.
00:24:55
Natalie Richards
it should it should be. And Kirsten texted me today too, and she goes, Finn slept a whole hour later than he usually does.
00:25:02
Felicia Devine
What happened last night?
00:25:04
Natalie Richards
um no idea. So there's some like weird shift time warp also combined with daylight savings.
00:25:06
Felicia Devine
Time warp.
00:25:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:25:12
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:25:12
Felicia Devine
I don't know what happened. It was confusing. And I was laughing because I'm like, am I the one that's wrong? I thought he was supposed to wake up earlier and he woke up later. And I was just like, I'm not sure what's happening. And then my hatch is tricking my brain.
00:25:27
Felicia Devine
i like, that shouldn't be allowed. I'm sorry. I should have to manually reset you.
00:25:31
Natalie Richards
For sure.
00:25:33
Felicia Devine
How did that happen?
00:25:33
Natalie Richards
And also, I also slept until 8, 15. eight fifteen
00:25:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah, so did I.
00:25:40
Natalie Richards
Like maybe because I'm usually – like 6.45, I'm like becoming aware usually, but I don't get up.
00:25:40
Felicia Devine
Is that why my eyes are bloodshot? I overslept. I slept more than I've ever slept in my whole life.
00:25:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:25:50
Natalie Richards
Like I'm just like, no, I'm keeping my eyeballs shut for another hour.
00:25:53
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:54
Natalie Richards
But then today i was like I was out until 8 at least.
00:25:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:26:02
Felicia Devine
Well, so if I got out of my bed at 7.15, that means I got out of my bed at 8.15,
Relaxation and Nighttime Routines
00:26:07
Felicia Devine
which means that's never happened in my whole life.
00:26:07
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Right.
00:26:09
Felicia Devine
Well, postpartum.
00:26:10
Natalie Richards
Postpartum.
00:26:11
Felicia Devine
That's why my eyes were bloodshot.
00:26:13
Natalie Richards
That's why. Yeah.
00:26:14
Felicia Devine
i ran a out of teardrops in my eyes because I've never been shut that long.
00:26:17
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:26:19
Natalie Richards
What time do you usually go to bed at night?
00:26:21
Felicia Devine
I'm asleep every single night by 1030.
00:26:24
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:26:25
Felicia Devine
No later.
00:26:26
Natalie Richards
It's amazing.
00:26:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But I'm in bed. Okay, so this is my night routine. We we do Dinner as a family, we all eat together. And then we divide and conquer the bedtime routine.
00:26:36
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:26:37
Felicia Devine
And then I always nurse to sleep. So Seppi is usually asleep between 7.30 and 8. By the time I leave Giuseppe's room at 8.05, 8.10, my feet don't go downstairs.
00:26:50
Felicia Devine
My feet go right to bed. Actually, that's a lie.
00:26:52
Felicia Devine
My feet go shower. I shower at night. I shower and I get ready. And then I just plop myself in bed and Dan and I call it rotting. ah go and I rot and I don't see, I don't see vertical until the morning.
00:26:52
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:27:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:07
Natalie Richards
I love that for you.
00:27:08
Felicia Devine
So like, yeah, I will rot in bed. And like, I don't know, is it a bad habit? Maybe. But like, I like once Giuseppe is asleep, I'm off duty.
00:27:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:18
Felicia Devine
I'm not productive.
00:27:18
Natalie Richards
And that's okay. That's what that's for.
00:27:21
Felicia Devine
It's not for me. Mm-hmm.
00:27:22
Natalie Richards
You have to be productive the other times of the day.
00:27:25
Felicia Devine
Yep. So my productivity happens. Like, you know how Oura Ring does your, what's it called? Chronotype.
00:27:33
Natalie Richards
Your chronotype, yeah.
00:27:33
Felicia Devine
What's your chronotype?
00:27:35
Natalie Richards
Mine is like definitely, I forget what it's called, but I'm like a late, late person. Yeah.
00:27:40
Felicia Devine
Oh, you're a nighttime person.
00:27:41
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:27:42
Felicia Devine
Oh, I'm a mid, mine's called mid-morning or something.
00:27:43
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Oh, no.
00:27:45
Felicia Devine
Late morning.
00:27:46
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:27:47
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:27:47
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:27:48
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:27:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah, no. I'm like a – Uh-huh.
00:27:50
Felicia Devine
That's why you guys stay up late.
00:27:52
Natalie Richards
So we – I am most productive between the hours of 7 p.m. and 10 p.m.
00:27:57
Felicia Devine
That scares me.
00:27:58
Natalie Richards
For sure. Yeah.
00:28:00
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:28:00
Natalie Richards
If I need to get anything done, that's when it's happening.
00:28:02
Felicia Devine
Oh, wow.
00:28:03
Natalie Richards
And then Jean will go to sleep at like 10.
00:28:07
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:28:07
Natalie Richards
And then I'll usually go to bed at like – I'm usually asleep by 11. Yeah.
00:28:12
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:28:13
Natalie Richards
But then I definitely sleep until 7 for sure.
00:28:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:18
Natalie Richards
And if I don't – 7.30, honestly. If I don't sleep until 7.30, I am not okay.
00:28:21
Felicia Devine
Ugh.
00:28:24
Felicia Devine
No, I, well, pre-baby,
00:28:26
Natalie Richards
I need eight and a half hours for sure.
00:28:26
Felicia Devine
pre-baby Pre-baby, I needed nine to 10.
00:28:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Now you can survive on maybe – yeah.
00:28:32
Felicia Devine
Six.
00:28:34
Natalie Richards
It's amazing what we can do. Yeah.
00:28:36
Felicia Devine
I told Dan the other day, so I slept through, straight through from 10.30 to five the other night. Even though Sepp has been sleeping through, I'll still wake up, check the monitor.
00:28:46
Natalie Richards
Totally. Mm-hmm.
00:28:47
Felicia Devine
Like I'll wake up, roll over. i slept like the dead from 10.30 to 5 a.m.
00:28:51
Natalie Richards
Ugh.
00:28:52
Felicia Devine
And i I was, again, time warped.
00:28:54
Felicia Devine
i was like, I couldn't figure out what had happened.
00:28:54
Natalie Richards
You don't know what to do with yourself then.
00:28:57
Natalie Richards
I know. Yep.
00:28:59
Felicia Devine
It's crazy.
00:29:00
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:29:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:29:02
Natalie Richards
I got the thought of, oh, oh, oh, scurry.
00:29:02
Felicia Devine
I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, i don't, I was talking with my sister-in-law the other day. Thinking about a second baby right now is like so intimidating.
00:29:15
Natalie Richards
Horrific. ah
00:29:17
Felicia Devine
How do you take care of a toddler and be pregnant?
00:29:20
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:29:22
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I truly don't know.
00:29:24
Felicia Devine
I, Here's one thing I'm going to change next time I'm pregnant. I'm going to get IVs regularly.
00:29:31
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:29:32
Felicia Devine
I need to do that because somebody told me that that's like one of the biggest hacks to like pregnancy nausea and like lethargy.
00:29:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:29:38
Natalie Richards
h
00:29:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Why not?
00:29:42
Felicia Devine
Am I saying that word right? Okay.
00:29:43
Natalie Richards
Lethargy. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:45
Felicia Devine
Sounds weird coming out of my mouth. Um... So I think I'm going to do that next time.
00:29:49
Natalie Richards
sir I think that's a great idea.
00:29:52
Felicia Devine
My sister did that um her first pregnancy. She did her birth center, provided IVs once weekly.
00:29:59
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
00:30:00
Felicia Devine
Isn't that cool?
00:30:01
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:30:01
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:30:02
Natalie Richards
I'm also interested in general for you to not be – this is – I'm not speaking for myself.
00:30:05
Felicia Devine
For me.
00:30:08
Felicia Devine
Natalie won't do it again.
00:30:10
Natalie Richards
No, I'm literally never doing it again.
00:30:10
Felicia Devine
Natalie won't do it again. No. Wait, Natalie, you should be my doula.
00:30:14
Felicia Devine
you want to my doula?
00:30:14
Natalie Richards
I would love, ah i would love to be your doula.
00:30:17
Felicia Devine
We, we did podcasts during labor.
00:30:20
Natalie Richards
my God.
00:30:21
Felicia Devine
Wait, you should really be my doula, Natalie.
00:30:24
Natalie Richards
I've 1 million percent will be your doula.
00:30:26
Felicia Devine
Okay. It's a business write-off.
00:30:27
Natalie Richards
How do we make that happen? I'd have to be out there for like two weeks or you come live with me.
00:30:30
Felicia Devine
I guess.
00:30:32
Felicia Devine
That's fine.
00:30:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah, that's fine. Well, I'm sure we could get you here.
00:30:34
Natalie Richards
No, I'm just kidding.
00:30:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Quickly. i could be there. i could be there.
00:30:44
Felicia Devine
i and you can bring Jean. If you want to bring Jean, you can bring Jean. Wait room.
00:30:49
Natalie Richards
i don't know.
00:30:49
Felicia Devine
No, I don't know.
00:30:52
Natalie Richards
Not for a birth.
00:30:53
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. Wait, why don't we think of this? Okay. Wait, you were saying, okay, for you, you were like for you, not for me.
00:30:56
Natalie Richards
I love that. What the hell was I saying?
00:31:01
Natalie Richards
ah um Oh, I'm curious for you if if you really will do different because you're not coming off of being plant-based for
00:31:05
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:31:10
Natalie Richards
however many years you were.
00:31:11
Felicia Devine
You're not wrong.
00:31:12
Natalie Richards
Like that's a very, very different scenario.
00:31:14
Felicia Devine
You're not wrong.
00:31:17
Felicia Devine
You are not wrong.
00:31:19
Natalie Richards
So from like a replenishment standpoint, mineralization, i think i i think it's going to be very different.
00:31:23
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. Okay.
00:31:29
Natalie Richards
I really do.
00:31:29
Felicia Devine
Love the positivity.
00:31:30
Natalie Richards
I'm hoping that for you because i will
00:31:30
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:31:34
Natalie Richards
I can't even tell you how many symptoms I did not have when i It was a joke. It was a joke. Like people would be pregnant around me and they're like, oh, it doesn't this suck?
00:31:42
Felicia Devine
You, no, like...
00:31:45
Natalie Richards
I go, I couldn't tell yet.
00:31:47
Felicia Devine
Couldn't tell you. No, I remember even at your wedding, we were joking. Cause you're like, some days I forget I'm pregnant because you like literally didn't feel different.
00:31:52
Natalie Richards
It's one million percent.
00:31:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay. Well, okay. As, as acting as my doula, what, what should I prepare right now?
00:32:00
Natalie Richards
Acting as your doula.
00:32:02
Felicia Devine
Because I'm doing the prenatal. I'm doing the, like the minerals I'm doing like the probiotic.
00:32:08
Felicia Devine
What, what do I need to be doing?
00:32:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:32:09
Natalie Richards
Liver. I mean, it's truly like like more liver flushing.
00:32:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I'm doing the liver.
00:32:14
Natalie Richards
I would do like a – do you do morning like lemon water or apple cider vinegar or anything like that?
00:32:20
Felicia Devine
Not right now.
00:32:20
Felicia Devine
i have. When I was pregnant, oh boy, did I love a lemon water.
00:32:20
Natalie Richards
You could do something like that.
00:32:25
Natalie Richards
ah Because you really want like – you want your stomach acid to be acidic enough because you want to be like really sucking out every bit of nutrient from every food that you eat.
00:32:25
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:32:30
Felicia Devine
Oh, I want to be acidic.
00:32:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. God, people who decrease their stomach acid.
00:32:40
Natalie Richards
I know with PPIs, it kills me.
00:32:42
Felicia Devine
Literally daily in my office, I'm like, Pepsid again? I'm like, the point of of acid is to break down your food and suck out nutrients.
00:32:52
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:32:53
Felicia Devine
And here we are decreasing stomach acid. I'm banged my head against a wall.
00:32:55
Natalie Richards
Right. The downstream effects from taking Tums and Pepsid and all that stuff is unbelievable.
00:33:01
Felicia Devine
Oh. Oh.
00:33:04
Natalie Richards
Unbelievable.
00:33:05
Felicia Devine
I had to like tell people, like don't drink water when you're eating food. And they're like, what? And I'm like, oh.
00:33:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh, boy. ah That's where it then i have to decide how how much of a conversation do I want to have today?
00:33:19
Felicia Devine
How disruptive do I want to be?
00:33:19
Natalie Richards
Do I feel like or truly helping you today?
00:33:22
Felicia Devine
The disruptive conversations I have in my head are toxic.
00:33:28
Natalie Richards
Like, do I want to throw your entire life upside down right now?
00:33:30
Felicia Devine
What kind of rabbit hole can we jump into?
00:33:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:33:33
Felicia Devine
i feel like Alice in Wonderland. ah know.
00:33:36
Natalie Richards
Oh my God. I'm like, ah be careful the questions that you ask me because they
Diet Hacks and Nutrition
00:33:40
Natalie Richards
will be they will be answered in a way that may shock you.
00:33:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:43
Felicia Devine
They will be answered. ah Yeah. So the goal, the goal is to have a very acidic stomach. So, okay. I'm going to, I'll start doing lemon water again.
00:33:52
Natalie Richards
I don't think it's going to be a problem for you.
00:33:54
Felicia Devine
You know what else i
00:33:54
Natalie Richards
I also have been – the preeclampsia situation has been running rampant lately.
00:34:01
Felicia Devine
I know a lot of those.
00:34:03
Natalie Richards
And it's not for no reason. Like it's it's a liver issue.
00:34:06
Felicia Devine
No.
00:34:07
Natalie Richards
Preeclampsia is a – it's more of a – yeah, it's it's it's an electrolyte.
00:34:07
Felicia Devine
And it's a, it's a, it's a electrolyte issue too. Yeah.
00:34:13
Natalie Richards
It's a mineralization.
00:34:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:14
Natalie Richards
It's a you cannot detox the things that are coming out of your system and the byproducts of just growing a human.
00:34:22
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:34:22
Natalie Richards
So it's more taxing on your liver in general to be pregnant, but then take it – all the other stuff around us is a problem.
00:34:32
Felicia Devine
What kind liver support can you do pregnant?
00:34:34
Natalie Richards
You can do a lot of things. You can do milk thistle. You can do artichoke.
00:34:36
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:34:37
Natalie Richards
You can do – yeah, there's there's a lot of things.
00:34:38
Felicia Devine
I need to do some of that.
00:34:41
Felicia Devine
I'm almost through my prenatal scoopies.
00:34:44
Natalie Richards
Oh, God, thank goodness.
00:34:45
Felicia Devine
Wait, kind of unlocked a hack.
00:34:46
Natalie Richards
The powdered prenatal. What?
00:34:48
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay. So Dan used to do my smoothies with frozen fruit every morning. So he would do the vanilla protein powder.
00:34:52
Natalie Richards
Oh
00:34:54
Felicia Devine
um We like cachava. We've done cachava for like six years.
00:34:57
Natalie Richards
so yeah.
00:34:59
Felicia Devine
um Then he would do frozen fruit and then he would do my prenatal powder. And then we do whole milk.
00:35:05
Natalie Richards
No,
00:35:07
Felicia Devine
i had to survive on my own without Dan the other weekend. He was gone.
00:35:12
Natalie Richards
God forbid.
00:35:12
Felicia Devine
So I had to feed myself.
00:35:13
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:35:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:14
Natalie Richards
but no god forbid
00:35:17
Felicia Devine
I know. So I was like, you know what? I'm too, first off, I'm too lazy to get the frozen fruit out. So I'm just going to do milk and powders.
00:35:23
Natalie Richards
which just
00:35:26
Felicia Devine
And guess what? It tasted, it tasted infinitely better.
00:35:28
Natalie Richards
And just suck it down.
00:35:31
Felicia Devine
It was not as offensive. I don't know if the fruit enhanced the horrendous taste of the prenatal or what, but I can suck it down.
00:35:33
Natalie Richards
Huh.
00:35:37
Natalie Richards
Huh.
00:35:38
Felicia Devine
Also, it's not as thick. So I can just, I can just like slug it.
00:35:40
Natalie Richards
It's not as thick. Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:43
Felicia Devine
So i think I think it's not as offensive as I thought it was. Granted, it still doesn't taste bad, but it or it doesn't taste good, but it's like I can actually drink it to completion and not want to die.
00:35:49
Natalie Richards
With the right things. oh
00:35:54
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay. That's good to know.
00:35:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah, so if I can't do pills again when I'm pregnant, I'm going to probably have to resort to this.
00:35:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:02
Felicia Devine
But I'm glad I found a solution that's like not that offensive.
00:36:05
Natalie Richards
Definitely. i will say I had a hard time. i did have a hard time like wanting to swallow pills at the beginning of pregnancy for sure.
00:36:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:13
Natalie Richards
I did it, but it was like, this is not – like it just felt wrong to me.
00:36:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:36:20
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:36:21
Felicia Devine
What was so crazy is I would swallow the pill and then I would immediately throw up all the water I just swallowed.
00:36:28
Natalie Richards
But the pill would stay.
00:36:29
Felicia Devine
Most of the times the pill would stay, but it was every single pill I would swallow.
00:36:31
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
00:36:32
Felicia Devine
that I would literally immediately throw up everything I just put
00:36:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:36:37
Natalie Richards
That's dedication.
00:36:38
Natalie Richards
See, honestly, I would have been like, I'm just not taking it.
00:36:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Well, I did for like 11 weeks.
00:36:41
Natalie Richards
that
00:36:42
Felicia Devine
I didn't take a single thing.
00:36:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah. No, you just don't.
00:36:44
Felicia Devine
i was like, baby, you're just going to have to suck what I have because I have nothing in me to like replenish.
00:36:46
Natalie Richards
it's yeah It's one of those things I'll replenish later.
00:36:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I think that's again, why I was so sick was because I was like, I can't swallow one more thing.
00:36:51
Natalie Richards
It's okay. Yeah.
00:36:56
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:36:56
Felicia Devine
And oftentimes I would spit the pill back out or like so throw up the pill too. But, oh man, that was terrible.
00:37:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah. that's horrible.
00:37:02
Felicia Devine
So I'm curious.
00:37:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah, no.
00:37:03
Felicia Devine
You're right. If I will be off to a better start because I'm not coming off of veganism.
00:37:07
Natalie Richards
Very curious. So then it's like, okay, you really have to make sure you're absorbing the nutrients you're taking in and that's where like stomach acids, number one, liver function, liver flow, all of that, pooping multiple times a day if possible.
00:37:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:37:16
Felicia Devine
And liver.
00:37:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never got constipated, thank God, when I was pregnant.
00:37:25
Natalie Richards
that Good.
00:37:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:37:28
Natalie Richards
What's in the cachava?
00:37:29
Felicia Devine
I love it.
00:37:30
Natalie Richards
what's the What's the protein base?
00:37:31
Felicia Devine
Let me Google it.
00:37:34
Natalie Richards
Is it plant or is it – oh.
00:37:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it's plant. um i don't Oh, I don't have a phone. Okay.
00:37:41
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. Okay. So that's where I would be like maybe you swap that for a little bit too and you do an animal-based protein.
00:37:50
Felicia Devine
Natalie, don't tell me that.
00:37:52
Natalie Richards
I'm sorry.
00:37:52
Felicia Devine
Shut up. Can you Google it for me?
00:37:54
Natalie Richards
like Like I will.
00:37:55
Felicia Devine
and don't have it.
00:37:56
Natalie Richards
I'm sure cachava is plant. I'm sure it is. i know you like I know you like it.
00:37:59
Felicia Devine
No, it is. is plant. It is plant, but is it a good plant?
00:38:03
Natalie Richards
I just, oh, I don't know.
00:38:03
Felicia Devine
We'll see.
00:38:06
Felicia Devine
i know, but I eat so much other animal.
00:38:08
Felicia Devine
I just love cachava.
00:38:08
Natalie Richards
I know you do.
00:38:10
Natalie Richards
and Okay.
00:38:11
Felicia Devine
But fine, I'll switch it. I could do what a...
00:38:13
Natalie Richards
Is it this?
00:38:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Vanilla.
00:38:16
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:38:16
Felicia Devine
Vanilla.
00:38:17
Natalie Richards
yeah Okay, hold on.
00:38:21
Felicia Devine
And don't worry, they don't sponsor me so I can chop them whenever.
00:38:21
Natalie Richards
Let's see.
00:38:25
Natalie Richards
Okay. It's pea, rice, amaranth, quinoa. it's It's a good plant-based protein.
00:38:34
Felicia Devine
I know it is a good one.
00:38:35
Natalie Richards
But plant-based protein is – yeah.
00:38:37
Felicia Devine
i know I need amino acids. Okay. But it, okay. So what's a good plant-based protein that you would want me to take?
Protein Powder Preferences
00:38:46
Natalie Richards
Animal-based, you mean?
00:38:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:48
Natalie Richards
I would do either the ancient nutrition bone broth.
00:38:52
Felicia Devine
I like them. Yeah.
00:38:53
Natalie Richards
Or um Equip is really good.
00:38:54
Felicia Devine
I like them.
00:38:56
Natalie Richards
Equip is a beef isolate.
00:38:58
Felicia Devine
Why does a quip sound like you get it at Walmart?
00:39:00
Natalie Richards
You don't.
00:39:01
Felicia Devine
Oh, that's a quate.
00:39:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:06
Felicia Devine
Like, isn't that the Walmart brand?
00:39:07
Natalie Richards
Equip is a beef isolate. Designs for Health has a beef isolate.
00:39:11
Felicia Devine
A protein powder?
00:39:12
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:39:13
Felicia Devine
Is it good?
00:39:13
Natalie Richards
h It's – yeah, it's fine.
00:39:15
Felicia Devine
I'll try.
00:39:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I like the – I think the bone broth, ancient nutrition bone broth, I think is – would be my preference for you.
00:39:16
Felicia Devine
Maybe. Maybe.
00:39:23
Felicia Devine
Okay, all right, I'll switch.
00:39:26
Natalie Richards
Just – I know.
00:39:26
Felicia Devine
I'll switch, because I'm in my preconception era.
00:39:28
Natalie Richards
So just for optimization, i like it.
00:39:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay.
00:39:32
Natalie Richards
ah It's got some collagen in there.
00:39:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:34
Natalie Richards
It's going to be – yeah.
00:39:35
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:39:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:39:36
Felicia Devine
It's good to grow out my short little hairs.
00:39:38
Natalie Richards
correct. I just thought I have so many baby hairs coming in.
00:39:42
Felicia Devine
Why is that?
00:39:42
Natalie Richards
I must have lost hair like a couple months ago.
00:39:44
Felicia Devine
When?
00:39:46
Natalie Richards
And now I have like all these little ones coming in.
00:39:49
Felicia Devine
Oh my goodness.
00:39:50
Natalie Richards
My hair has always been so thick. I don't notice if I like lose any, but then the other day i i lost like only the little curly things like right by my, right there.
00:39:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I really didn't have postpartum hair loss.
00:39:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. i would say just a little shadow.
00:40:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:01
Felicia Devine
but wait, when I was getting my hair done for a wedding, the girl was like, oh, I'm just going to like spray paint this area real quick. And I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, yeah, I'm just going to like spray paint your little baldy spot.
00:40:10
Natalie Richards
Spray paint.
00:40:13
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:40:13
Felicia Devine
First off, that's my natural hairline, sir.
00:40:13
Natalie Richards
o
00:40:14
Natalie Richards
What?
00:40:16
Felicia Devine
Or ma'am. Ma'am, that's my natural hairline. She took a can of aerosol spray paint. That's like for root touch up.
00:40:24
Natalie Richards
oh Oh.
00:40:25
Felicia Devine
And she gave me a faux hairline.
00:40:28
Felicia Devine
I looked fine. I didn't look crazy, but I was like, is that what it's supposed to look like?
00:40:29
Natalie Richards
Did it? Oh my gosh. Oh no. What?
00:40:36
Felicia Devine
I was a little confused, but i was like, I'm not going to say anything more.
00:40:39
Natalie Richards
it's It's just been like how your hair is for so long.
00:40:39
Felicia Devine
it looked fine. That's just like, and well, and I am like naturally so light hair, like my hair's so light usually anyway, but, oh, I was like giggling to myself because she was like, yeah, I'm just going spray paint your bald spot.
00:40:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh, that's so funny.
00:40:52
Felicia Devine
And was like, what the, yeah, that was, that was humbling.
00:40:53
Natalie Richards
That's so funny.
00:40:56
Natalie Richards
Okay. did we Did we hit all of our points for our the closet clean out that you wanted to talk about?
00:41:01
Felicia Devine
No, but we're talking about o over being overstimulated by texture.
00:41:05
Felicia Devine
And we have to go.
00:41:06
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah.
00:41:06
Natalie Richards
By texture and polyester.
00:41:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah, we have to like, we as we say that, my neck is itching because I'm wearing like a, what, is this wool?
00:41:12
Natalie Richards
because
00:41:14
Felicia Devine
Is this wool?
00:41:15
Felicia Devine
Is wool natural? Wool's natural.
00:41:15
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:41:16
Natalie Richards
Wool is natural.
00:41:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it's itchy.
00:41:17
Natalie Richards
Cashmere is natural. I tell myself I can buy as much cashmere as I want because it's natural fibers.
00:41:23
Felicia Devine
I get so itchy. Why am I itchy with it?
00:41:25
Natalie Richards
Cashmere is my favorite. ah I can't wear wool. I cannot wear wool or angora.
00:41:29
Felicia Devine
Who can wear wool? Sheeps.
00:41:31
Natalie Richards
like It's made for sheep, okay? But cashmere I can. Cashmere is wool too. But can't
00:41:36
Felicia Devine
Is cashmere just like really, really like fine wool?
00:41:36
Natalie Richards
but i
00:41:39
Natalie Richards
It's really fine. Yes, it's really fine fibers. It is wool technically. It comes from, ah I think, a specific type of sheep.
00:41:46
Felicia Devine
Do they just like massage it down like really thin?
00:41:49
Natalie Richards
No, I think it's from a specific breed of sheep.
00:41:52
Felicia Devine
We should breed cashmere sheep.
00:41:52
Natalie Richards
Actually, I don't know the answer. I'm saying i'm saying this and it could it may totally be done be wrong.
00:41:57
Felicia Devine
We don't know. We don't know.
00:41:59
Natalie Richards
It's a very fine, fine material though. And that's it's so prized because it's it doesn't itch.
00:42:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No.
00:42:08
Natalie Richards
There's nothing about cashmere that's itchy.
00:42:10
Felicia Devine
I'm wearing itchy wool right now.
00:42:10
Natalie Richards
Wool, I could literally crawl out of my skin thinking about it.
00:42:14
Felicia Devine
I know. i As we talk about it, I'm getting itchier. Yeah.
00:42:18
Natalie Richards
Jean had a –
00:42:21
Natalie Richards
I had a cashmere jacket on him the other day because it's from Quince.
00:42:23
Felicia Devine
Oh my god, Natalie.
00:42:26
Natalie Richards
Like they're so cute.
00:42:27
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:42:27
Natalie Richards
And he'll wear it for a few years and then it's fine.
00:42:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:30
Natalie Richards
My mom was like, oh my gosh, he has like, you would never have been able to wear that. I go, yeah, would have. i You put me in Angora and wool. I was itching out of my skin. I couldn't even have it touch me.
00:42:42
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:42:43
Natalie Richards
and I was like, give me cashmere.
00:42:43
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah.
00:42:45
Natalie Richards
I'll wear that all day.
00:42:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I need more cashmere. um
00:42:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I guess, I guess the whole goal of this closet clean out is to reduce the overstimulating clothes.
00:42:49
Natalie Richards
you do.
Natural Fibers Over Synthetics
00:42:56
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:42:57
Felicia Devine
I just can't do it.
00:42:58
Natalie Richards
And clothes that don't vibe with your energy, literally, and that's polyester.
00:43:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah. That's, that's synthetics.
00:43:04
Natalie Richards
oh
00:43:07
Felicia Devine
We were walking on Halloween and it was like gusting wind.
00:43:10
Natalie Richards
oh
00:43:11
Felicia Devine
I turned to Dan. I go, I can't think straight right now. He goes, what do you mean? I was like, I can't comprehend the conversations happening around us because the wind is overstimulating me to the degree that my brain can't even like process.
00:43:23
Natalie Richards
Can't handle anything else.
00:43:25
Felicia Devine
I was like, damn, we have to go home. My brain was like spinning. I'm so overstimulated lately. And I think it's my synthetic clothing.
00:43:32
Natalie Richards
That's – maybe it would be one less thing that your body has to process.
00:43:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:39
Felicia Devine
Ugh, so yeah, so we're going all cotton underwear.
00:43:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:43
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. But Quince has – Quince has organic cotton underwear and it's not like a million dollars.
00:43:44
Felicia Devine
Cashmere sweaters.
00:43:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:43:50
Felicia Devine
I also like my organic cotton underwear from Gap.
00:43:54
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah.
00:43:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah, but I'm gonna look at Quint's because I'll see if I like that style better.
00:43:55
Natalie Richards
That's another good spot.
00:43:59
Natalie Richards
oh well
00:44:00
Felicia Devine
um Yeah, i don't i I don't know, Natalie. what do you What do you need to do about your closet? What's your closet situation?
00:44:07
Natalie Richards
i just – I have things in there that i in theory, like.
00:44:12
Felicia Devine
Okay, and what does that, what does in theory mean?
00:44:13
Natalie Richards
But then I go – in theory, i'm like, okay, yeah, like I really like that.
00:44:14
Felicia Devine
Like you look at you look at it and you're like, i like it.
00:44:18
Natalie Richards
I could see it going with this outfit.
00:44:20
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:44:21
Natalie Richards
And then I put it on and it's like that doesn't work in any way of what I thought it was going to.
00:44:26
Felicia Devine
Okay, because of comfort or because of look?
00:44:29
Natalie Richards
look It just doesn't look the way that I want it to with the other things I have.
00:44:32
Felicia Devine
Okay. Wait, maybe you need to be more Justin Bieber.
00:44:34
Natalie Richards
So then I'm like, maybe I need different pants and maybe I then need like a different jacket to then go over it.
00:44:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:40
Natalie Richards
And then I'm like, why I love jackets.
00:44:41
Felicia Devine
Ooh, you're a jacket girl.
00:44:43
Felicia Devine
You love a good jacket.
00:44:43
Natalie Richards
I really do.
00:44:44
Natalie Richards
and love a sweater, like an over sweater, long cardigan.
00:44:47
Felicia Devine
You like a leather jacket.
00:44:48
Natalie Richards
I love a leather jacket. i just bought a new one. It's amazing.
00:44:52
Felicia Devine
oh Anytime I think of like a jacket, I think of you.
00:44:52
Natalie Richards
It's like tan with silver studs. And I had just, I love it. I love it.
00:44:58
Felicia Devine
Cause you're a good jacket girly.
00:45:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah. i'm start I have to curate my Banff outfits.
00:45:02
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:45:06
Felicia Devine
Oh yes, you do. that's coming up.
00:45:08
Natalie Richards
oh It's coming up in January. I'm so excited.
00:45:12
Felicia Devine
ah Yeah. Okay. So maybe you need more street style. You need more steam.
00:45:17
Natalie Richards
I do need more – I need more steez.
00:45:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:21
Natalie Richards
I need more like that's a piece that I can just throw on and it looks awesome and doesn't create – I don't know.
00:45:24
Felicia Devine
Okay. Do you ever go baggy?
00:45:29
Natalie Richards
Hardly ever.
00:45:30
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:45:31
Felicia Devine
I've never, I've never picked you up to be baggy. Really?
00:45:31
Natalie Richards
And I try, i try, and then I go, o ah it's not, it's not it.
00:45:37
Felicia Devine
No.
00:45:37
Natalie Richards
It's not it.
00:45:37
Natalie Richards
I need, nope.
00:45:41
Felicia Devine
The only thing baggy I've ever seen you wear is like a ah long cardigan.
00:45:45
Natalie Richards
Yes, that's it.
00:45:45
Felicia Devine
And that's not baggy because you still wear a thin silhouette cardigan.
00:45:46
Natalie Richards
No. Yeah, that's it. That's that. That's
00:45:50
Felicia Devine
If I wear a cardigan, it has to be the most frumpy oversized thing to look good me. I put one on the other day that had skinny arms and I was like, ah, I was like, sell immediately. It was like, it was giving me like toothpick arms, big body.
00:45:59
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:46:03
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's like – that's my problem with with like bulky things is like I'm already like a large person.
00:46:09
Felicia Devine
oh
00:46:11
Natalie Richards
Like I'm tall.
00:46:12
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah.
00:46:13
Natalie Richards
I need things that kind of just like bring me in a little bit rather than the other.
00:46:17
Felicia Devine
Okay. I need things to bring me out because I have toothpick arms and I need to make them look bigger so that my waist looks smaller because, okay.
00:46:19
Natalie Richards
I don't know. Sure. it And you need to balance those out. Yeah.
00:46:28
Natalie Richards
I'm going to try some things on and post pictures of them and be like, hmm, yes or no.
00:46:33
Felicia Devine
Hmm. Yes or no. Right. because Because my proportions are so drastically different. Like I have the widest hips on the planet and the skinniest little toothpick arms.
00:46:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah. All right. You have to balance that.
00:46:43
Felicia Devine
So what I need to do, I have to make my arms look bigger so that my waist looks smaller.
00:46:48
Natalie Richards
Got it.
00:46:48
Felicia Devine
I think that's the thing.
00:46:50
Natalie Richards
I actually like that sometimes too. I love like a puffy sleeve.
00:46:52
Felicia Devine
Okay. Oh, you look good in a puffy shoulder.
00:46:53
Natalie Richards
i love i love a puffy shoulder.
00:46:54
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:46:56
Natalie Richards
love. Like shoulder pad era would have been for me.
00:46:57
Felicia Devine
Or if you're Or I like when you have your jackets that have like the leather, like, and what are these things?
00:47:05
Natalie Richards
the
00:47:05
Felicia Devine
Straps?
00:47:07
Felicia Devine
Like you should be a general. You need stripes.
00:47:10
Natalie Richards
Like a a, sure, like a bulkier, a bulkier shoulder.
00:47:13
Felicia Devine
A detail on the shoulder. You look great with a detail on the shoulder.
00:47:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:17
Felicia Devine
What kind shoe are we wearing these days?
00:47:19
Natalie Richards
That, i I just had an almost a meltdown the other day about this. i I don't know. I go back to like my Same old shoe option. I've been wearing cowboy boots like a lot with wide leg jeans and I love that.
00:47:30
Felicia Devine
Okay. Ooh, cute.
00:47:33
Natalie Richards
Like I could do that nearly every day.
00:47:33
Felicia Devine
That's cute. Okay. i just, I just purchased a pair of Sambas.
00:47:37
Natalie Richards
But then I look the same every day.
00:47:42
Natalie Richards
What are those?
00:47:43
Felicia Devine
Adidas.
00:47:44
Natalie Richards
Oh, okay.
00:47:45
Felicia Devine
Like, like a simple Samba.
00:47:46
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes. i love a tech I love like a – yeah.
00:47:48
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry. Is that what it's called? Is it not a Samba? I don't know.
00:47:51
Natalie Richards
It is. i just It just wasn't clicking in my head.
00:47:52
Felicia Devine
oh no. Cause I, I don't, I don't know if that's how you pronounce it.
00:47:54
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:47:56
Felicia Devine
Okay. Um, I've never owned Samba.
00:47:57
Natalie Richards
The gazelles and the sambas.
00:47:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:59
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:47:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:59
Felicia Devine
I bought a bright red one.
00:48:00
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:48:01
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:48:01
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:48:02
Felicia Devine
Pop a color.
00:48:03
Felicia Devine
Then I found a barefoot shoe that looks like an Adidas Samba, but it's a barefoot shoe.
00:48:03
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:48:10
Natalie Richards
I've seen those.
00:48:12
Felicia Devine
So I got two of those.
00:48:12
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:48:13
Felicia Devine
I got like a baby blue.
00:48:13
Natalie Richards
Send me those. so Mm-hmm.
00:48:14
Felicia Devine
i will. I got a baby blue and a tan, like, um, uh, what's that material?
00:48:18
Natalie Richards
Love that.
00:48:21
Felicia Devine
That's like
00:48:22
Natalie Richards
Swede.
00:48:22
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:48:22
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. I knew by your fingers. I knew.
00:48:27
Felicia Devine
I'm doing one of these.
00:48:28
Natalie Richards
I knew it was going to be swayed.
00:48:28
Felicia Devine
I'm doing on one of these.
00:48:30
Natalie Richards
and
00:48:30
Felicia Devine
Okay. So I got those and I just ordered them today because I'm like, I need to figure out my shoe game. Cause I think part of my outfit put together is that I don't have shoes. I'm not a shoe girly.
00:48:39
Natalie Richards
yeah that's what's hard.
00:48:40
Felicia Devine
I've never been a shoe girly.
00:48:41
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:48:43
Felicia Devine
And I think that's the downfall lot of my outfits.
00:48:46
Natalie Richards
That does make or break everything.
00:48:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it does.
00:48:49
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:48:50
Felicia Devine
So I'm trying to figure it out.
00:48:50
Natalie Richards
I love a sparkle silver tenny.
00:48:54
Felicia Devine
Yes, you do.
00:48:54
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:48:55
Felicia Devine
You love a golden goose penny.
00:48:56
Natalie Richards
i love a I love anything that's like, whoa, that's a fun element.
00:49:01
Felicia Devine
You love, you love a sparkle shoe.
00:49:04
Natalie Richards
I love that. And that's where like I can easily have most of my wardrobe be just simple black and then I throw on like the one little thing and I'm like, that's it.
00:49:11
Felicia Devine
And then do a fun shoe. Yeah.
00:49:15
Natalie Richards
That's all I need.
00:49:16
Felicia Devine
I really want to get into the ballet flat era, but part of my problem is my pants are so big.
00:49:20
Natalie Richards
I used to
00:49:21
Felicia Devine
My pants are so big and that I have little baby feet sticking out.
00:49:22
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it doesn't work.
00:49:25
Felicia Devine
It's like, where did her feet go?
00:49:25
Natalie Richards
The tiny thing.
00:49:26
Felicia Devine
Where did her feet go?
00:49:27
Natalie Richards
You could do like a point. You could do like a pointed ballet flat, even though that was so.
00:49:31
Felicia Devine
That gives me, I'm overstimulated. My feet, like, oh my God, my toes the most overstimulated body part.
00:49:34
Natalie Richards
Just a thought.
00:49:39
Felicia Devine
To begin with, my toes are so sensitive, you guys.
00:49:42
Natalie Richards
That's true.
00:49:42
Felicia Devine
It's not even funny.
00:49:43
Natalie Richards
You can't have your feet under the covers. Yeah.
00:49:45
Felicia Devine
if If you put me in a pointed shoe, I'm staying at the event less than one hour before I have to go home.
00:49:50
Natalie Richards
I did. i've wore I wore heels last night. I wore pumps to this fundraiser we went to.
00:49:55
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:49:57
Natalie Richards
I used to be able to go out in pumps and wear them for 10 hours and walk for miles. i like
00:50:04
Felicia Devine
Natalie's never taken a shoe off in public.
00:50:04
Natalie Richards
said i lasted 30 minutes.
00:50:07
Felicia Devine
oh
00:50:08
Natalie Richards
I took them off. I took them off.
00:50:10
Felicia Devine
I'm shook.
00:50:11
Natalie Richards
i'd I literally said to somebody, I go, I used to shame people for doing this.
00:50:11
Felicia Devine
I've never seen you take a shoe off in public.
00:50:15
Felicia Devine
Yes, you said, i quote you.
00:50:18
Natalie Richards
I
00:50:18
Felicia Devine
If I wear a shoe, I'm committing to it.
00:50:22
Natalie Richards
last night, did not commit.
00:50:23
Felicia Devine
oh
00:50:24
Natalie Richards
I did not. I was also walking around like having to sell raffle tickets and stuff and that was the mistake.
00:50:24
Felicia Devine
Oh no.
00:50:28
Felicia Devine
Okay. Did you bring a backup shoe or were you barefoot at this event?
00:50:30
Natalie Richards
If I could have – no, no, because i was literally barefoot. I would go, i I'm wearing these shoes. I'm just going to deal with it, I guess.
00:50:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:50:37
Natalie Richards
And I could not. I could not deal.
00:50:38
Felicia Devine
Oh, and then you have to deal with the shame of being barefoot.
00:50:39
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:50:42
Felicia Devine
Yep, that's punishment.
00:50:43
Felicia Devine
There are consequences for behaviors.
00:50:43
Natalie Richards
Yep, it was.
00:50:44
Natalie Richards
It was. So that's my karma.
00:50:48
Felicia Devine
No, I need to figure out the shoe game because, yeah, it has to be has to be comfortable, stylish, and a pop of like spaz.
Shoe Dilemmas and Style
00:50:57
Felicia Devine
What's it called?
00:50:58
Natalie Richards
Of...
00:50:58
Felicia Devine
Spiz?
00:51:00
Natalie Richards
Steez.
00:51:00
Felicia Devine
It's got to be seized.
00:51:02
Natalie Richards
I gotta
00:51:04
Felicia Devine
It's got to give Justin Bieber, okay? Easy street wear, easy.
00:51:06
Natalie Richards
be steez.
00:51:08
Felicia Devine
We'll see. i don't know. I don't know. If you're stylist listening, shoot us some um inspo.
00:51:13
Natalie Richards
I know. Please, please help. Please help.
00:51:16
Felicia Devine
ah students
00:51:16
Natalie Richards
What are people wearing now?
00:51:17
Felicia Devine
But what are the crunchy girls wearing? Because need to...
00:51:21
Natalie Richards
The Crunchy Girls aren't wearing shoes. They're going...
00:51:23
Felicia Devine
No, that's me at work. I'm barefoot at work. That's part of my problem of like committing to a shoe because like I just immediately take it off at work.
00:51:30
Natalie Richards
Which is fine.
00:51:30
Felicia Devine
but But like i need the juxtaposition of like being put together but also being crunchy.
00:51:36
Natalie Richards
I know. Like, what do we actually do here? Mm-hmm.
00:51:39
Felicia Devine
I need a cute shoe that's like actually practical.
00:51:44
Natalie Richards
I'm trying – I – no, don't – I wear, like, my – the same things over and over.
00:51:46
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:51:50
Natalie Richards
And at work, I just wear my barefoot shoes. So, mm-hmm.
00:51:53
Felicia Devine
Do you wear shoes when you adjust? Oh, I'm baby. I'm dead.
00:51:58
Natalie Richards
I'm baby.
00:51:59
Felicia Devine
I'm
00:52:05
Felicia Devine
dead.
00:52:07
Natalie Richards
We have to be done. We're done.
00:52:09
Felicia Devine
I was just peed. I'm dead.
00:52:13
Felicia Devine
No, I was reading. text just came through from the, beat wait, from the group chat called baby. It's a group chat between my husband, his parents and me.
00:52:25
Felicia Devine
And it's like, it's about Giuseppe.
00:52:27
Natalie Richards
Oh, oh, it's only for talking about Giuseppe.
00:52:27
Felicia Devine
It's like our Giuseppe chat. It's well, and it's like, are we coming over tonight for dinner? Like it's those kinds of chats, but it's called baby.
00:52:34
Natalie Richards
Okay, okay, okay. oh
00:52:38
Felicia Devine
And I was, was going say a sentence that I read a text came through and I read baby.
00:52:45
Felicia Devine
I'm baby. oh well.
00:52:49
Natalie Richards
Oh boy.
00:52:50
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay. Anyway, that's it.
00:52:52
Natalie Richards
That extra hour of sleep.
00:52:54
Felicia Devine
That's it for our style tips today.
00:52:59
Felicia Devine
All right, so next, yeah, next time we talk to you, we're gonna have our lives together in our closets.
00:53:00
Natalie Richards
Hope you enjoyed episode 16. Yeah.
00:53:05
Natalie Richards
yeah Yeah, we will.
00:53:06
Felicia Devine
Mark our words.
00:53:06
Natalie Richards
and And also next time we talk to you, we're going to be talking about water.
Next Episode Preview
00:53:11
Felicia Devine
Water.
00:53:12
Natalie Richards
Water, as you would say in Pennsylvania.
00:53:14
Felicia Devine
Water. Water?
00:53:15
Natalie Richards
so Water.
00:53:16
Felicia Devine
Water ice.
00:53:17
Natalie Richards
Water.
00:53:19
Felicia Devine
We're gonna talk all things water, all things detoxing, like like water sourcing.
00:53:22
Natalie Richards
Electrolytes.
00:53:24
Felicia Devine
water sourcing
00:53:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:53:27
Felicia Devine
So stay tuned. That'll be episode 17.
00:53:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah.