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S2.Ep3 - New Year, New Brain, New Habits (& conspiracies)

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New year, same us — but with a new brain (allegedly). We’re kicking off 2026 with running shoe rage (why are we inserting our own insoles??), the concept of “luxury hopping” (aka romanticizing your day with micro-luxuries every few hours), and the reality that sometimes your entire personality shift is just… a minor concussion.

Then we spiral (as we do): miswak sticks instead of toothpaste, EMF hot takes, parasite chatter, toddler stomach drama, DIY carnivore “meat bark”, and a surprisingly educational detour into what a functional cycle actually looks like.

And because it’s us, we end up at aliens, disclosure, nuclear sites, and a conspiracy-themed birthday party where everyone presents a slideshow to prove their theory is real.

Welcome to 2026. Grab your red light, your vibe plate, and your blood pills.

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Transcript

Intro

Natalie's Return to Running

00:00:50
Felicia Devine
Hello, Natalie.
00:00:52
Natalie Richards
Hi, Felicia.
00:00:53
Felicia Devine
Welcome back to episode three.
00:00:55
Natalie Richards
Episode three. yeah I would say new year, new us, but same old stuff still going on.
00:00:57
Felicia Devine
whoop
00:01:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah, same old stuff.
00:01:06
Felicia Devine
Wait, I actually am a new me as of 2026.
00:01:11
Natalie Richards
Really? in what way?
00:01:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I ran for the first time in probably like three years yesterday.
00:01:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, my word.
00:01:17
Felicia Devine
I know I went and got new running shoes and I was like, I'm going to be a running girl again.
00:01:21
Natalie Richards
And how do we feel?
00:01:24
Felicia Devine
actually feel lovely.
00:01:25
Natalie Richards
Do you?
00:01:26
Felicia Devine
Like i mentally drained, tired, fatigued.
00:01:29
Natalie Richards
See, that would throw me into a spiral.
00:01:31
Felicia Devine
right My hips, fine. i even like push step in the stroller.
00:01:36
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
00:01:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:01:37
Natalie Richards
Heck yeah.
00:01:37
Felicia Devine
So I felt like fine, but I had like such a subpar experience at the running store.
00:01:43
Natalie Richards
Oh, no. Why?
00:01:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Just like customer service these days.
00:01:47
Natalie Richards
subpar.
00:01:47
Felicia Devine
It just makes me so upset. and i can't on I can't unthink about it when I'm there.
00:01:50
Natalie Richards
it's subpar
00:01:54
Felicia Devine
I'm just like, I wouldn't have done that. Or like, oh, should have sold me up on that. Like, she had the opportunity to upsell anything.
00:02:02
Natalie Richards
And sometimes that's what I want.
00:02:04
Felicia Devine
I want to be sold.
00:02:04
Natalie Richards
I want to be, I want, I'm here to buy something.
00:02:06
Felicia Devine
Convince me. Influence me. okay.
00:02:08
Natalie Richards
Please tell me what I need.
00:02:09
Felicia Devine
i i didn't I didn't come in there being like, what's your cheapest parachute?
00:02:11
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:02:14
Felicia Devine
I was like, what are the girlies wearing? And she was like, i everything.
00:02:16
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:02:17
Felicia Devine
And I was like, oh, okay. And then i was like, okay, like, I think I should have an insole. Because she did this foot scan. I had to ask for the foot scan.
00:02:26
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:02:27
Felicia Devine
She did the foot scan. And then i had to ask, like, could I try an insole? And then she's like, I mean, yeah, I sure. And then she handed me the insole.
00:02:37
Felicia Devine
I had to put the insole into my own shoe. i said, trade trade me chairs. I want the squishy seat.
00:02:44
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:02:45
Felicia Devine
i don't want to be on this hard bench. I'll sit on your little squishy, so rolly seat, but in my own insole. It was crazy. And then what happened? I don't know. I was just like, I was telling Dan on the way home. I was like, it's like going to the dentist and your dentist being like, okay, we're going to try this crown in here. You put it in.
00:03:03
Natalie Richards
Oh my God. It's true actually.
00:03:05
Felicia Devine
Like you put the insole in you tell me why I should buy it. Make me love it. Upsell me to the highest grade insole.
00:03:12
Natalie Richards
I think the problem is people don't know what they're actually selling. So they don't know anything about what they're trying to give you because it's just like high school kids
00:03:15
Felicia Devine
No, literally.
00:03:18
Felicia Devine
I was actually like, what is happening? Yeah.

Reflections and Festive Traditions

00:03:21
Natalie Richards
that are improperly trained.
00:03:22
Felicia Devine
But then I'm like, I'm like, you're selling me $300 pair of shoe pair of shoes, and you don't know what you're doing.
00:03:28
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:03:31
Felicia Devine
I could see it if it's like a smoothie shop and you're like, eh, it's all good.
00:03:34
Natalie Richards
Fair enough. Fair enough.
00:03:35
Felicia Devine
When you're talking about $300 pairs of shoes, that's crazy behavior.
00:03:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah, there's a difference between what you want. Mm-hmm.
00:03:40
Felicia Devine
i don't know. I had a bone to pick about it. And I still bought the shoe and I upsold myself.
00:03:45
Natalie Richards
Of course.
00:03:46
Felicia Devine
But I was like, I don't even know what my options are because I don't know what's relevant anymore. Like I'm so disconnected from the running world. Like what I ran in in college doesn't exist anymore.
00:03:54
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:03:58
Natalie Richards
No. m
00:03:58
Felicia Devine
No, it's like all moon shoes.
00:04:00
Natalie Richards
That was all, everything is a moon shoe with like a three inch sole.
00:04:00
Felicia Devine
Everything's a moon shoe. yes
00:04:04
Natalie Richards
it's
00:04:05
Felicia Devine
I'm like, my ankles are not ready for this.
00:04:08
Natalie Richards
Sprained ankle.
00:04:09
Felicia Devine
I'm like, where's your ankle support department?
00:04:10
Natalie Richards
is it
00:04:13
Natalie Richards
Can we run in high tops?
00:04:15
Felicia Devine
Literally, I'm like, do you have braces?
00:04:17
Natalie Richards
Oh, goodness.
00:04:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I bought the shoes.
00:04:19
Natalie Richards
o
00:04:20
Felicia Devine
I went on the run. My dad and I ran together.
00:04:23
Natalie Richards
Yes, your parents are there.
00:04:24
Felicia Devine
And then, yeah. And then Danny ran with Josephine. So it was a little run club.
00:04:29
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:04:30
Felicia Devine
It was really fun. So I'm excited. I'm i'm bringing that into 2026. And I already started.
00:04:34
Natalie Richards
how was How was the Christmas polar plunge?
00:04:38
Felicia Devine
It was great.
00:04:38
Natalie Richards
That you didn't do, right?
00:04:39
Felicia Devine
I didn't do it. And I'm so grateful I didn't do it because guess what? I didn't miss anything. You know, it's like no one no one notices that I didn't go in.
00:04:46
Natalie Richards
No, it's true. It's true.
00:04:49
Felicia Devine
You know, everyone's in their own world.
00:04:49
Natalie Richards
Because everybody in their own world, it doesn't matter.
00:04:52
Felicia Devine
There was a gazillion people there.
00:04:52
Natalie Richards
You're there holding a towel and everything's good. It was perfect.
00:04:54
Felicia Devine
No, I didn't even hold a towel. I just showed up.
00:04:57
Natalie Richards
Good.
00:04:58
Felicia Devine
No, Josephine got in. so So she was the first puppy to go in all the years they've been doing this.
00:05:00
Natalie Richards
She did. Oh. Oh.
00:05:04
Felicia Devine
And I had some naysayers behind me being like, that dog doesn't even want to be in there. That dog just wants to get out. I'm like, girly would swim in there for 45 minutes and still have to be dragged out.
00:05:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:15
Felicia Devine
She was living her best life.
00:05:17
Natalie Richards
it
00:05:19
Felicia Devine
No, it was really fun. it was It was like cold, but like weather-wise it was cold out, but it wasn't snowing or anything.
00:05:22
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:24
Felicia Devine
So it was nice.
00:05:25
Natalie Richards
Perfect. Oh my gosh.
00:05:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:05:26
Natalie Richards
Fun. i love i just love that tradition.
00:05:27
Felicia Devine
It was lovely.
00:05:28
Natalie Richards
I think that's so cute.
00:05:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. No, there were so many people.
00:05:30
Natalie Richards
What a good thing to do as like a group and your family and your friends and everybody like coming together.
00:05:32
Felicia Devine
It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like all these people that like I would never go out of my way to see on a holiday.
00:05:42
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:05:43
Felicia Devine
But it's like so fun.
00:05:43
Natalie Richards
But it's kind of nice. Yeah.
00:05:45
Felicia Devine
It's like we're all out here on this like a random Christmas morning. I don't know.
00:05:50
Natalie Richards
No, I really, really like it. I think that's so fun.
00:05:51
Felicia Devine
And technically, like it's you're not supposed to swim in the creek. Like it's a creek that goes through like while missing, which is like a the zip code, I guess.
00:05:56
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:06:00
Felicia Devine
And you're not supposed to swim in it. And it's like 40 people could like the parking lot was overflowing that we were parked on the street.
00:06:09
Natalie Richards
Oh, wow.
00:06:10
Felicia Devine
So like how the cops don't stop and be like, what's going on on Christmas morning at the creek?
00:06:12
Natalie Richards
Interesting. Yeah.
00:06:14
Felicia Devine
Why is there a gigantic crew of people jumping in the creek? But no one's ever stopped them. So I think the cops are just like, do your thing.
00:06:20
Natalie Richards
They shouldn't. They say, you know what? It's Christmas.
00:06:23
Felicia Devine
Become a better version of yourself.
00:06:25
Natalie Richards
They don't want to be working that day anyway. Trust me, I can vouch.
00:06:27
Felicia Devine
No, no. Yeah. Kyle's like, I would never even stop. Yeah.
00:06:33
Natalie Richards
It's like, I don't want to deal with that on Christmas. Have fun.
00:06:37
Felicia Devine
Have fun Yeah.
00:06:37
Natalie Richards
hope nobody dies.
00:06:38
Felicia Devine
He's like, yeah.
00:06:39
Natalie Richards
Bye.
00:06:39
Felicia Devine
He's like, you guys can like vet yourselves. We don't need to get involved.
00:06:43
Felicia Devine
But yeah, it was, it was really fun. Like the whole Christmas week was to die for. I loved it.
00:06:47
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
00:06:48
Felicia Devine
We had so much fun.
00:06:48
Natalie Richards
Love it. Love it.
00:06:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah. How were your festivities?
00:06:51
Natalie Richards
It was good. I feel like once Christmas got there, it was it was good. I was i was happy again.
00:06:58
Felicia Devine
Was Jean like, I know you were like, you were struggling.
00:06:59
Natalie Richards
Leading up, I was like, i was so not into it. But you know why?
00:07:03
Felicia Devine
i was so not into it.
00:07:04
Natalie Richards
i figured it out.
00:07:06
Felicia Devine
Why, you have parasites?
00:07:07
Natalie Richards
nu Well, that too. Okay. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. No, I have now after the fact diagnosed myself with a minor concussion.
00:07:17
Felicia Devine
What?
00:07:18
Natalie Richards
Did I tell you the last time we recorded that the week before I hit my head so hard right here, right at the top, like right on my hairline.
00:07:26
Felicia Devine
What?
00:07:28
Felicia Devine
Kay. Kay.
00:07:30
Natalie Richards
It was in Gene's room and i it was like on his bed. He has like this teepee bed that has like wood posts.
00:07:34
Felicia Devine
Kay.
00:07:35
Natalie Richards
And I can't, it was six in the morning.
00:07:35
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:07:37
Natalie Richards
He had woken up for some reason. And I was like going to shut the door and I like turned really fast, like really fast, slammed my head into this wooden post and
00:07:40
Felicia Devine
Oh no.
00:07:49
Felicia Devine
Natalie.
00:07:50
Natalie Richards
It was painful probably for the full week until we recorded. i don't think I mentioned it because I was like, okay, it's like not swollen anymore.
00:07:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:58
Natalie Richards
Well, it was, but it I had a hat on
00:07:58
Felicia Devine
Right. oh
00:08:02
Natalie Richards
And I realized like after that point, I was feeling like nearly depressed, like the closest to depression that I could probably imagine without really being depressed.
00:08:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:13
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh, you were struggling.
00:08:14
Natalie Richards
And it really I was. I was like, something is not right with me. Like, I don't want to plan anything. i don't want to do anything.
00:08:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:20
Natalie Richards
i don't want i don't want to be involved in anything right now.
00:08:23
Felicia Devine
Right. I remember you being like, I said no to everything. And I'm like, oh, that's weird.
00:08:25
Natalie Richards
and Everything. Everything.
00:08:27
Felicia Devine
Cause Natalie's a yes girl.
00:08:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Like literally everything. I was like, nope, not for me. Not doing it.
00:08:33
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:08:33
Natalie Richards
I don't want to do anything. And then I went to acupuncture a few days ago and I was telling her like, oh yeah, like three weeks ago I hit my head.
00:08:35
Felicia Devine
What in the world?
00:08:42
Natalie Richards
It is still like, I can still feel the bump on my skull.
00:08:44
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:08:45
Natalie Richards
Like I couldn't even touch my face for at least a week.
00:08:49
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:08:49
Natalie Richards
It was so bad. So then I was like, huh, I really need to do some things for like my brain to to like help me heal.
00:08:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:58
Natalie Richards
Okay. I haven't also used my nicotine gum in probably two months, like a month and a half.
00:09:05
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:09:06
Natalie Richards
I go, oh, let me just, let me just try it again.
00:09:06
Felicia Devine
Okay. Papa, Papa Nikki.
00:09:12
Natalie Richards
Swear to you within 12 hours, I'm my normal self again. Normal. I'm like, I don't have a problem anymore.
00:09:21
Felicia Devine
What? How did you forget to tell me this?
00:09:24
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:09:25
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:09:27
Natalie Richards
I literally feel like everything's fine.
00:09:30
Felicia Devine
That's insane, Natalie.
00:09:31
Natalie Richards
within And I'm telling you, I just started doing that. I did like eight milligrams yesterday. i was trying to get to 10, but I couldn't.
00:09:39
Felicia Devine
Hmm.
00:09:39
Natalie Richards
It's like, it's hard for me to actually take to actually take it that much, which is so funny because one Zin that people do is like seven.
00:09:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Oh.
00:09:48
Natalie Richards
but So I'm like trying my hardest to get up to 10 and I can't even get there. But within 12 hours, i was I was perfectly fine.
00:09:52
Felicia Devine
That's insane.
00:09:57
Felicia Devine
I'm happy for you.
00:09:57
Natalie Richards
It's so funny. i Thank goodness.
00:09:58
Felicia Devine
That's crazy. And then also so scary because if you didn't have acupuncture, if you didn't have the the whereabouts to like help yourself, if you didn't have the nicotine understanding, tailspin.
00:10:03
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:10:06
Natalie Richards
i know. i'm like, okay, great. So now I'm going to continue doing all of my things I know that I can do to help heal my brain. But like, I actually had a brain injury.
00:10:19
Natalie Richards
And it was just like so specifically just right here where it wasn't like a normal, like I slammed my whole head against something and had a concussion.
00:10:19
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:10:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:28
Felicia Devine
No.
00:10:29
Natalie Richards
It was like just a very no, no countercute.
00:10:29
Felicia Devine
It wasn't like the counter coup. It was like prefrontal cortex.
00:10:34
Natalie Richards
And it wasn't anything with the back. So I didn't have any like eye symptoms. I didn't have any sound symptoms.
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
Coordination.
00:10:38
Natalie Richards
I didn't have nothing. It was purely planning and like frontal...
00:10:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And emotional. Yeah.
00:10:45
Natalie Richards
Frontal lobe executive functions. It was so interesting.
00:10:48
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:10:50
Natalie Richards
h
00:10:50
Felicia Devine
Okay. That takes me to... postnatal depression,

Postpartum Brain Health and Luxury Hopping

00:10:54
Natalie Richards
For sure. Mm-hmm. For sure. And the the lack, like your brain gives all the omega-3s to your baby.
00:10:55
Felicia Devine
like brain inflammation from like the pushing phase.
00:11:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:05
Natalie Richards
So like omega-3s, cholesterol, all of that is coming from your brain and your butt.
00:11:05
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:11:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:10
Natalie Richards
So that's why people, that's why you don't have a butt anymore because that's where all the omega-3s are stored in your body.
00:11:14
Felicia Devine
Oh my God.
00:11:16
Felicia Devine
I mean, I never had a butt to begin with, but girly has gone away.
00:11:19
Natalie Richards
But it goes away. It goes away. Isn't that funny?
00:11:23
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:11:23
Natalie Richards
so
00:11:25
Felicia Devine
So I need to up my omega threes.
00:11:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I just was like, what the heck is going on So Christmas was good, but I still just was like, not okay.
00:11:28
Felicia Devine
What in the world?
00:11:31
Felicia Devine
So, okay. So you're doing,
00:11:36
Felicia Devine
when did you discover your, when did you discover your concussion?
00:11:40
Natalie Richards
I, no, I didn't even know, no, until three days ago, I didn't even put the pieces together that that's what I was dealing with.
00:11:40
Felicia Devine
Pre Christmas?
00:11:46
Felicia Devine
Oh no. Well, cause you had brain, brain injury.
00:11:47
Natalie Richards
I was like, I just, I had a brain injury, so I didn't even realize that I had a brain injury.
00:11:54
Felicia Devine
Natalie.
00:11:54
Natalie Richards
Because i was like, oh, I just hit my head, like it swelled on the on on the top, like my hole above my eyebrows and like above my nose, my glabella, you're right, were so swollen.
00:11:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:02
Felicia Devine
Glabella. I love that word.
00:12:06
Natalie Richards
Like you would look at me from the side and it was like
00:12:09
Felicia Devine
You looked like a caveman.
00:12:13
Natalie Richards
So, duh, when I think back, i'm like, of course I had a problem.
00:12:15
Felicia Devine
Wow. Wow.
00:12:18
Natalie Richards
It's just so funny.
00:12:19
Felicia Devine
It's funny now, but it's not funny then.
00:12:21
Natalie Richards
It's not funny. And I'm like, thank God I actually put the pieces together.
00:12:23
Felicia Devine
Concerning. Yeah.
00:12:25
Natalie Richards
and I said, oh, maybe that's why I was feeling so not myself. Like it was so not myself that I was like, what is actually wrong?
00:12:29
Felicia Devine
No. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:33
Natalie Richards
Like I have something. I have an infection. i have parasites.
00:12:36
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:12:37
Natalie Richards
Like you said, I'm like, something's going on.
00:12:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Something's off.
00:12:39
Natalie Richards
Something's going on.
00:12:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:40
Natalie Richards
So, Now, my new year is going to be hopefully so much better because now I'm like motivated to do all the stuff that I was needing to do before, like take all my NAD and NMN do my vibration plate and do my red light and do all of my stuff.
00:12:45
Felicia Devine
Lovely. Yeah. New year, new brain.
00:12:52
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:12:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:13:01
Natalie Richards
And now I'm just going to be doing it all together.
00:13:01
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:13:03
Natalie Richards
So I'm going to be a whole new person.
00:13:03
Felicia Devine
yeah Okay. So this is something i stumbled upon recently and I cannot get the like vibe out of my head.
00:13:13
Natalie Richards
Oh my.
00:13:13
Felicia Devine
Have you heard of luxury hopping?
00:13:16
Natalie Richards
Luxury hopping. No, but I i need it.
00:13:17
Felicia Devine
Yes. okay, you probably already do this, but if you change the mindset to be luxury hopping, it just like elevates your day.
00:13:21
Natalie Richards
Tell me.
00:13:27
Felicia Devine
So the concept is that you do something every few hours that feels luxurious to you and you just like get through your day with like such a better mindset.
00:13:34
Natalie Richards
oo
00:13:37
Felicia Devine
And it's like something to look forward to the next few hours. And like, Then it's your little like sweet treat.
00:13:40
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:13:42
Felicia Devine
But it's like, it could be literally anything that you're into. But like for me, when I wake up, I'm like, ooh, I'm going to do my red light therapy with my like dry brush gua sha.
00:13:46
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:13:51
Felicia Devine
And that's like my first luxury.
00:13:51
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:13:53
Felicia Devine
And then it's like, for some people it's like, okay, and in an hour and a half, I'm going to have my like French press coffee with a raw egg.
00:13:53
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:14:00
Felicia Devine
And that's like my next luxury I have to look forward to.
00:14:03
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:14:04
Felicia Devine
And then, yeah.
00:14:04
Natalie Richards
I like that mindset shift actually because it instead of saying like, oh, these are all things I have to do, like they're all my habits that I have to go through.
00:14:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:10
Felicia Devine
Right. Yes.
00:14:13
Natalie Richards
It's like, no, I get to do these wonderful, amazing, luxurious things.
00:14:15
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:14:17
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:14:17
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:14:17
Natalie Richards
I'm totally doing that.
00:14:18
Felicia Devine
And you just hop about your day with like whatever luxury you desire.
00:14:20
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:14:22
Felicia Devine
And I just think it's so, it's so cutesy and it's so like, I don't know.
00:14:27
Natalie Richards
I love that because that's the mindset I need to have to make myself actually do the stuff.
00:14:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Cause I always, Yes. Right. And I like whenever it's like 3.30, 4 o'clock in the afternoon, I'm like home with Sep and I'm like, oh, like what's the next move?
00:14:33
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:14:42
Felicia Devine
I'm always like, ooh, I'll pour myself like a fancy spin drift and a fun cup.
00:14:43
Natalie Richards
It is.
00:14:45
Felicia Devine
And like, like that's luxury hopping, right?
00:14:46
Natalie Richards
Love it. it is
00:14:48
Felicia Devine
Like I'm looking forward to my afternoon spin drift with like a tincture in it and a fancy champagne glass. And I'm going to sip on like turning it into luxury.
00:14:55
Natalie Richards
love it
00:14:58
Felicia Devine
And yeah, yes, it can be.
00:14:58
Natalie Richards
I think that's spectacular. Every day can be luxurious. That is 2026.
00:15:03
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:15:04
Natalie Richards
That is what I'm looking for.
00:15:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So we're going be luxury hopping.
00:15:08
Natalie Richards
and it could also be, I'm going to my facial and then to my massage and then to my...
00:15:10
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. Exactly. Or it's like, I don't know, instead of like grocery shopping today, I'm going to do so like curbside pickup. Luxury.
00:15:19
Natalie Richards
Beautiful. Luxury. Love it.
00:15:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So
00:15:23
Natalie Richards
Like I need another reason to treat myself. Yeah.
00:15:28
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:15:28
Natalie Richards
But I
00:15:30
Felicia Devine
Honestly, I'm so guilty of that. i'm like, I deserve a treat for what doing what? I don't even know.
00:15:35
Natalie Richards
for us existing.
00:15:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So my luxury hopping is going to be my, my forefront of my brain this, this year.
00:15:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Okay. So tell me some of the things that you want to do that are luxurious for yourself that I can then take inspiration from.
00:15:48
Felicia Devine
Okay. Implement.
00:15:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:50
Felicia Devine
Okay. So the four o'clock like little mocktail hour.
00:15:54
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:15:55
Felicia Devine
i love, it's like almost my favorite thing of my day because a lot of people will be like, oh, when I'm cooking dinner, like I'll pour a glass of wine, but that's just like not applicable to me.
00:15:57
Natalie Richards
I love that so much.
00:16:04
Felicia Devine
I don't like love wine. I don't need to be drinking alcohol at four o'clock in the afternoon.
00:16:05
Natalie Richards
no No, no.
00:16:10
Felicia Devine
i have a kid to watch.
00:16:10
Natalie Richards
I have like an aversion.
00:16:11
Felicia Devine
I have the, like, have a long day. yeah.
00:16:13
Natalie Richards
i have an aversion to alcohol right now. Like i i can't even fathom.
00:16:15
Felicia Devine
oh
00:16:17
Natalie Richards
Maybe it's my brain injury, but I i cannot actually, icks me.
00:16:18
Felicia Devine
Oh. It just like icks you out?
00:16:23
Natalie Richards
It's really, really interesting, which I'm okay with it.
00:16:23
Felicia Devine
Oh. Interesting.
00:16:26
Natalie Richards
It's great.
00:16:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:27
Natalie Richards
But I have never experienced that before. Yeah.
00:16:29
Felicia Devine
An alcohol ick.
00:16:32
Natalie Richards
Because usually like i can I can stay away from it with self-control and just say I don't need that right now.
00:16:32
Felicia Devine
You'll never turn down a champagne. Yeah. re Right,
00:16:39
Natalie Richards
But like to actually have zero desire and like an actual ick for it is really interesting.
00:16:44
Felicia Devine
Interesting.
00:16:45
Natalie Richards
I know. and
00:16:46
Felicia Devine
I sent you something about champagne savoring on Instagram the other day.
00:16:48
Natalie Richards
I saw that. I saw that.
00:16:50
Felicia Devine
Very cute. But that's for when you don't have your ick anymore.
00:16:53
Natalie Richards
Sometime.
00:16:54
Felicia Devine
Okay. So my like 4 p.m. mocktail, I love. I love a wind down drink. So like after Sep goes to bed, I'm going to go sit in my bed and rot, whether I watch Netflix or like read a book or whatever. And I will make like...
00:17:08
Felicia Devine
Some concoction. I don't know. Like recently, because I got a head cold, it's been like immune tea with like raw honey and electrolytes and like just like the art of making it and then like sipping on it.
00:17:15
Natalie Richards
m
00:17:20
Felicia Devine
So that's a luxury.
00:17:21
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:17:22
Felicia Devine
The Red Light Therapy Vibe Plate Pyramid Combo.
00:17:26
Natalie Richards
To have everything all together. i know.
00:17:28
Felicia Devine
Yes. oh my God. Nothing feels more luxurious than stacking five expensive wellness techniques together.
00:17:35
Natalie Richards
seriously, seriously.
00:17:37
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:17:37
Natalie Richards
Vibe plate with, I do my Lumi box like right on my face basically and my thyroid.
00:17:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yes. Face and thyroid. Yep.
00:17:44
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:17:44
Natalie Richards
Vibration plate.
00:17:45
Natalie Richards
I have my like gua sha and my dry brush and we go through all that and I pump all my lymphatic nodes and I'm like, okay, this is great.
00:17:47
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:17:51
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:17:53
Natalie Richards
I need to add more things.
00:17:53
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:17:54
Natalie Richards
I don't know how to add more things. Maybe a drink.
00:17:56
Felicia Devine
So a drink.
00:17:56
Natalie Richards
A drink
00:17:58
Felicia Devine
And then you could also add like healthy like whitening strip.
00:18:03
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay. Yes.
00:18:04
Felicia Devine
Or like a face mask.
00:18:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Okay. That's what I need to do.
00:18:08
Felicia Devine
Or eye jellies. I love an eye jelly.
00:18:09
Natalie Richards
Eye jellies. Eye jellies. I like that.
00:18:12
Felicia Devine
love an eye jelly. You know what I recently got into?
00:18:18
Felicia Devine
Okay, so year 2026 is the year I take my oral health seriously in the wellness sphere,
00:18:23
Natalie Richards
Okay.

Wellness Practices and Traditional Health Methods

00:18:24
Felicia Devine
okay?
00:18:24
Natalie Richards
Okay. okay
00:18:25
Felicia Devine
We're we're done with the toxic products.
00:18:28
Natalie Richards
No. Are you ditching fluoride toothpaste?
00:18:31
Felicia Devine
Natalie, I'm going to be ditching toothpaste altogether. Okay.
00:18:33
Natalie Richards
Okay. I like this. This is the, I like this route.
00:18:36
Felicia Devine
Have you heard of a, I'm going to pronounce this wrong, a misawack?
00:18:40
Natalie Richards
No, but is it like a tooth scraper?
00:18:43
Felicia Devine
It's a root.
00:18:43
Natalie Richards
Like a root?
00:18:44
Felicia Devine
It's a root.
00:18:44
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Like a, uh, uh, a stick.
00:18:45
Felicia Devine
It's a stick. You bite the end off and it is like frayed like a broom.
00:18:48
Natalie Richards
Yup. Yup.
00:18:50
Felicia Devine
And it's literally just a root.
00:18:50
Natalie Richards
Yup.
00:18:52
Felicia Devine
And this is what all the like tribal lands, like all their people use misawack.
00:18:53
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes. Yes.
00:18:57
Felicia Devine
I think it's called a misawack.
00:18:57
Natalie Richards
This is also what my brother has been doing for the last o maybe five to 10 years.
00:19:01
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. That's so Matthew.
00:19:04
Natalie Richards
he
00:19:04
Felicia Devine
That's so Matthew.
00:19:05
Natalie Richards
i i don't think he brushes his teeth ever, but he just like scrapes them.
00:19:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mr. Tree Boy.
00:19:13
Natalie Richards
But do you remember, okay, the Rewild Yourself podcast that I used to listen to in chiropractic school, he talked about that.
00:19:17
Felicia Devine
Yes, yes, okay, yes, it's so cool.
00:19:21
Natalie Richards
And that this has been in my brain for so long. It's so cool. And you don't disrupt the microbiome with anything.
00:19:28
Felicia Devine
So, exactly.
00:19:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:19:32
Felicia Devine
Yes. And all these tribal people that like do this in other countries, their teeth are gorgeous.
00:19:39
Natalie Richards
Gorgeous.
00:19:40
Felicia Devine
Gorgeous.
00:19:40
Natalie Richards
Gorgeous.
00:19:41
Felicia Devine
So it's.
00:19:42
Natalie Richards
It's so Weston A. Price. I love it.
00:19:44
Felicia Devine
Okay. So on your vibe plate, you could me swap. I think it's called a me swap. I don't know what it's called.
00:19:50
Natalie Richards
You can go get like of a young branch off of a tree too and you can just like peel back the little, the bark and then you can just fray it.
00:19:57
Felicia Devine
There's glyphosates out there, Natalie.
00:19:59
Natalie Richards
That's true. Okay. Okay.
00:20:00
Felicia Devine
But you could, but you could, you could go about it that way.
00:20:01
Natalie Richards
yeah At my house, there's not.
00:20:04
Felicia Devine
If you live on your own land. Yeah. I don't know. what I bought mine online. but I've been me swacking and you can do that on your vibe plate.
00:20:10
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. I love this.
00:20:14
Felicia Devine
And so my sister-in-law is a periodontist and she was like, just like, don't like jam it on your gum.
00:20:16
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:20:19
Natalie Richards
No, no, no, no.
00:20:19
Felicia Devine
Cause like you will get gum recession.
00:20:21
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:20:22
Felicia Devine
You'll need to hit up the periodontist, get a gum graft.
00:20:23
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:20:25
Felicia Devine
So like, if you are me swacking, you need to like, just rub your teeth.
00:20:25
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:20:30
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:20:31
Felicia Devine
And be careful about it.
00:20:32
Natalie Richards
And it like goes in between a little bit.
00:20:32
Felicia Devine
You're not like jamming. Yeah.
00:20:34
Natalie Richards
It's basically like flossing.
00:20:34
Felicia Devine
it's like a little It's like a little fairy brush for your teeth. I started it when I'm sick though.
00:20:38
Natalie Richards
yep, yep.
00:20:41
Felicia Devine
And so I can't tell what it truly tastes like because I have like an altered sense of taste right now.
00:20:44
Natalie Richards
Oh. Yeah.
00:20:46
Felicia Devine
I have like sick taste. So I think when my head cold's done, I'm going to have like a fresh understanding of what a miswhack feels like.
00:20:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:54
Felicia Devine
But I'm so into it.
00:20:54
Natalie Richards
I cannot wait. I love that. i love it so much.
00:20:57
Felicia Devine
I got one for my dad too. Cause my dad does literally, if I'm like, oh, this is wellness. This is cool. This is trending.
00:21:02
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:21:03
Felicia Devine
My dad's like, sign me up. Give me 10.
00:21:05
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:21:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:06
Natalie Richards
And do you do tongue scraping?
00:21:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:09
Natalie Richards
Okay. Perfect. With like the metal ones or whatever.
00:21:11
Felicia Devine
I don't have a metal one, but honestly, no reason why.
00:21:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:21:14
Felicia Devine
It's not like I can't find one.
00:21:17
Natalie Richards
What do you use? Oh,
00:21:18
Felicia Devine
It's like a flexible, like plastic one, which microplastics, uh,
00:21:21
Natalie Richards
plastic. I mean, what
00:21:25
Felicia Devine
So 2026, I'm getting a metal tonscraper.
00:21:26
Natalie Richards
I hear the copper, the copper ones are the best in terms of like antimicrobial and so copper has some sort of, some sort of, I need i don't know.
00:21:33
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:21:38
Felicia Devine
Copper is lovely.
00:21:38
Natalie Richards
It's some Ayurvedic copper yes.
00:21:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah, copper is very Ayurvedic. I had a copper water bottle I used for like four years.
00:21:43
Natalie Richards
Yes. yes
00:21:47
Felicia Devine
Have you ever grounded your sheets?
00:21:49
Natalie Richards
Yes, but i don't know that I felt anything truthfully.
00:21:50
Felicia Devine
What do you feel? that was a That was a quick pivot, sorry. oh
00:21:58
Natalie Richards
Here's the problem with grounding mats and grounding sheets is you have to make sure that the grounding from your electrical outlet is actually grounded not interfered by all the other crap EMF that's coming and all the crap electric.
00:22:06
Felicia Devine
Grounded.
00:22:09
Felicia Devine
How do you do that?
00:22:12
Natalie Richards
You have to literally have like a building biologist come and analyze your house.
00:22:16
Felicia Devine
Test it.
00:22:17
Natalie Richards
So then I kind of like, i was like, i don't know that I want to like be putting, i don't know.
00:22:21
Felicia Devine
more electrical current into my body.
00:22:22
Natalie Richards
i just, yeah Like it could be like a bad current that's coming through your ground.
00:22:27
Felicia Devine
didn't know that. Oh my God.
00:22:30
Natalie Richards
So I don't know.
00:22:31
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:22:31
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I think it, I think it's okay. to do in most cases. But like definitely I've heard if you live in an apartment building, bad idea.
00:22:39
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:22:42
Natalie Richards
there Like all all kinds of like if there's any sort of like weird electrical setup near you, like you probably don't want to do it.
00:22:43
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:22:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay. That's good to know. Speaking of EMF, did you see that thing I posted about Yodo and Tony? Like the Yodo player and the Tony player?
00:22:59
Natalie Richards
Oh yes. Oh yes. That was fascinating.
00:23:03
Felicia Devine
The Tony player is EMF bomb.
00:23:08
Natalie Richards
Literally, which is shocking to me.
00:23:09
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:23:10
Natalie Richards
Like, how is it so different than the Yodo?
00:23:13
Felicia Devine
I don't know, but even if they turn the Wi-Fi setting off, it's still...
00:23:15
Natalie Richards
It's still, that was crazy.
00:23:17
Felicia Devine
Now, they did show like three feet away from it. It's significantly reduced.
00:23:20
Natalie Richards
It's fine. As long as you're not holding it next to your body.
00:23:22
Felicia Devine
by But crazy.
00:23:25
Natalie Richards
It's practically like holding a cell phone next to you.
00:23:28
Felicia Devine
Well, as I sit with it on my lap.
00:23:30
Natalie Richards
i know, I know.
00:23:32
Felicia Devine
But like a lot of kids will have that on like their nightstand.
00:23:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah, like right next to their head.
00:23:37
Felicia Devine
Right next to their head next to their bed.
00:23:38
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. I know. All the things that we just don't, we just don't know.
00:23:43
Felicia Devine
Oh, it's so scary.
00:23:44
Natalie Richards
It's so scary.
00:23:45
Felicia Devine
I told you, i told you I took the hatch out of Seb's room like six months ago.
00:23:45
Natalie Richards
The world out there is so scary. Yes, you did. Mm-hmm.
00:23:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I didn't really dive too in the room.
00:23:51
Natalie Richards
I think any Wi-Fi devices... in the room, around the room is not good.
00:23:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:23:57
Natalie Richards
It's not even good to have your kid by an outlet. When you talk to like these building biologists, I've, I'm not even kidding.
00:24:02
Felicia Devine
What?
00:24:04
Natalie Richards
Like to, do they say, put your kid's crib or bed in the middle of the room.
00:24:07
Felicia Devine
Where are you supposed to put your kid?
00:24:11
Natalie Richards
I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm not doing that.
00:24:12
Felicia Devine
Wait, really?
00:24:12
Natalie Richards
But, or you can turn, you can like turn the outlet off.
00:24:17
Felicia Devine
i guess you could turn the breaker off for that side of the room. Natalie!
00:24:21
Natalie Richards
This gets really, this gets really in the weeds. And I listened to all this stuff and I know it all.
00:24:23
Felicia Devine
Also, I've never heard of a building biologist.
00:24:25
Natalie Richards
I know all of this, but I also do not implement all of this because I can't like, it's, can't, it's really scary actually.
00:24:30
Felicia Devine
It's somewhat detrimental. I always tell Dan, I'm like, the more you know, the more you know. And it's like, you can't unknow it. And then I look at it and I'm like, well, you can't like for seed oils for SEP.
00:24:41
Felicia Devine
I'm like, you just can't eat that. Like that's not on the itinerary. you That's not on the menu.
00:24:45
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:24:46
Felicia Devine
You're not eating that.
00:24:47
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:24:47
Felicia Devine
Food diet, absolutely not.
00:24:49
Natalie Richards
Absolutely not.
00:24:49
Felicia Devine
Like, like you can't unlearn these things.
00:24:52
Natalie Richards
No. Because you know then what it's doing to you.
00:24:53
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:24:54
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:24:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:55
Natalie Richards
It's like... parasites and salmon and fish and stuff.

Parasite Concerns and Dietary Experiments

00:25:00
Natalie Richards
like you Once you see this stuff, like you can't actually I'm sorry to everybody who still likes salmon.
00:25:03
Felicia Devine
You can't unsee it.
00:25:09
Natalie Richards
It's bad. It's really bad. Even though they're like dead, and sometimes they're not. Sometimes the eggs are there. It's it's just like, oh God, i can't.
00:25:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah, we were supposed to go to a sushi restaurant last night for dinner. We showed up. We're like, a reservation for four at five. And they're like, we have nobody. And I'm like, no, no. And they're like, wait, we do see a reservation for four at five.
00:25:31
Felicia Devine
But that's for shorts. And we're like, that's none of us.
00:25:34
Natalie Richards
Oh no.
00:25:34
Felicia Devine
None of us. So then we were like, okay. And then we're like, okay, just a table for four at five. And they're like, we have nothing today.
00:25:42
Natalie Richards
my gosh.
00:25:43
Felicia Devine
like And like, okay, we're leaving. So we walked out.
00:25:45
Natalie Richards
Maybe that was the universe telling you that we shouldn't have that.
00:25:45
Felicia Devine
We went to a different restaurant. But that was a sign.
00:25:49
Felicia Devine
Parasites, parasites were ready to jump into my body last night.
00:25:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah. They were. And yeah, it's its it's prime time because it's full moon time and it's very real.
00:25:53
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yeah. Yes.
00:26:00
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:26:00
Natalie Richards
I actually think this might be the first full moon Jean hasn't had a reaction.
00:26:01
Felicia Devine
So.
00:26:05
Natalie Richards
i know we were talking about this off the podcast, but like...
00:26:05
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We had some behind the scenes conversation about parasites.
00:26:09
Natalie Richards
He, yeah, he pretty much every full moon wakes up in the middle of the night saying his stomach hurts and it's like, okay, cool.
00:26:18
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:26:20
Natalie Richards
But like now it's gotten better because I've been doing all kinds of consistent stuff with him.
00:26:24
Felicia Devine
So Sep, the past few nights, has been having the worst nights of his entire life. Like, it's so tragic and also so tragic for Dan and I. So Natalie has advised us to do some parasite tinctures, which we will be trying.
00:26:34
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:26:41
Felicia Devine
We will be trying.
00:26:41
Natalie Richards
I think why the heck not.
00:26:42
Felicia Devine
We had we had a rough night last night. He was going to the bathroom in the middle of the night, like on the potty. Like, he was having the worst stomachache of his whole life, literally writhing around in our arms.
00:26:48
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:26:54
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:26:55
Felicia Devine
so uncomfortable, screaming.
00:26:57
Natalie Richards
I have been there. Absolutely been in that exact place. It's horrible.
00:27:02
Felicia Devine
How did my kid get parasites?
00:27:04
Natalie Richards
I'm telling you, it's the dogs.
00:27:04
Felicia Devine
Oh, you said you the dog's in the house.
00:27:06
Natalie Richards
It's the dogs. It's bad.
00:27:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:08
Natalie Richards
Like bad, bad.
00:27:09
Felicia Devine
Because she, honestly, she licks his hands and his face.
00:27:13
Natalie Richards
constantly, if the dog is run is walking in your kitchen where you're preparing food, it's happening.
00:27:18
Felicia Devine
Well, and she eats a raw diet.
00:27:20
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:27:21
Felicia Devine
So...
00:27:22
Natalie Richards
It's just, like, it' it's just happening. It just is.
00:27:26
Felicia Devine
Josephine is out here trying to run run the roost on me.
00:27:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And they're pretty much, parasites are in every food, like, they're everywhere.
00:27:31
Felicia Devine
Ugh. I know.
00:27:34
Natalie Richards
We just don't do anything consistently as a culture here to get rid of them.
00:27:38
Felicia Devine
Until I clear it out.
00:27:38
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:27:40
Felicia Devine
Ooh, I'll tell you a new food I've been giving Sep that he absolutely adores and loves.
00:27:46
Felicia Devine
So i found... this recipe this girl so the girl that I followed and like kind of taught me about the whole like food introduction thing for infants or like introducing solids she posted this thing and it was a recipe for like a tallow bark and yeah uh wild nutrition or something
00:27:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:28:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:28:05
Natalie Richards
I saw that. Is it this like wild nutrition? What's her name? Wild nutrition? Yeah.
00:28:13
Felicia Devine
this Yes, that.
00:28:14
Natalie Richards
Nutritionist? Wild nutritionist?
00:28:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:16
Natalie Richards
Maybe? Yeah.
00:28:18
Natalie Richards
She's great.
00:28:19
Felicia Devine
She's great. And she posted this bark and she's like, it's essentially a hack for these protein bars that the carnivore...
00:28:27
Natalie Richards
The carnivore bars.
00:28:29
Felicia Devine
but Have you seen how much those cost, Natalie?
00:28:31
Natalie Richards
Oh, yes. Insane. I've never tried them because I...
00:28:35
Felicia Devine
One bar is $16.99. $16.99.
00:28:38
Natalie Richards
For one, i didn't realize that.
00:28:39
Felicia Devine
For one serving, one protein bar is $16.99. For five, it's like $60.
00:28:43
Natalie Richards
Oh, my word. Oh, my. Okay. Okay.
00:28:47
Felicia Devine
It's crazy. So basically what she did is she just like recreated it because it's very few ingredients. The whole point of it is that the carnivore bar is like basically just like three things.
00:28:58
Natalie Richards
meat, fat, and some maple syrup or something, honey, whatever it is.
00:28:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Honey. Yeah. so basically you take ground beef, you cook ground beef and then you dehydrate it in your oven. Or if you have a dehydrator, I don't.
00:29:10
Natalie Richards
her
00:29:11
Natalie Richards
I don't.
00:29:11
Felicia Devine
so you like make it like small crumbles, dehydrate it, and then you're supposed to like pulverize it in your like blender.
00:29:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:29:18
Felicia Devine
I didn't do that cause it was already like really small crumbles.
00:29:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:29:21
Felicia Devine
Then you take tallow and honey and you melt them together in a pot. And then,
00:29:26
Natalie Richards
Oh, that sounds so good.
00:29:27
Felicia Devine
some salt and then you put your crumbles on a cookie sheet. You pour your tallow honey mixture over when it's hot. And then you, sprinkle, like she did dehydrated strawberries.
00:29:37
Natalie Richards
straw She did strawberries, didn't she?
00:29:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. My strawberries were like super weird. Like didn't, I was like, man, i don't think they're good anymore. So I did dehydrated blueberries.
00:29:46
Natalie Richards
Perfect.
00:29:47
Felicia Devine
And I sprinkled that over, put it in the freezer, and then you crumble it up and it's literally like a little bark. He ate like four pieces yesterday.
00:29:53
Natalie Richards
I'm going to do that.
00:29:54
Felicia Devine
He loves it
00:29:55
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:29:56
Felicia Devine
It's so good.
00:29:57
Natalie Richards
I'm so going to do that for Gene. He would love Mm-hmm.
00:29:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah, he would love it. And it's you know it's like really, really good for you. And it's also super shelf stable, they say. the carnivore The carnivore bars, they say they're like unlimited shelf stability.
00:30:06
Natalie Richards
Which, yeah, it has to be.
00:30:11
Felicia Devine
Like they don't go bad ever.
00:30:13
Natalie Richards
Because of the honey and the...
00:30:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And the, like, because everything's dehydrated.
00:30:15
Natalie Richards
Interesting. Oh, sure.
00:30:18
Felicia Devine
but with hers, she was like the strawberries make it so that it is like a little bit less shelf stable, but like, I just keep them in the freezer, which is fine.
00:30:24
Natalie Richards
whom Right, which is fine.
00:30:28
Felicia Devine
And it's a little cold and he like, he'll just hold it and like suck on it and crunch it.
00:30:28
Natalie Richards
Oh, I'm totally going to do that.
00:30:32
Felicia Devine
And he loves it.
00:30:33
Natalie Richards
I have so much ground beef from our cow that we got.
00:30:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:36
Natalie Richards
Like, how do I use all of this ground beef?
00:30:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:38
Felicia Devine
And it's so few ingredients.
00:30:40
Natalie Richards
That's amazing.
00:30:41
Felicia Devine
And to look at like what a a carnivore bar costs, like I probably just made like $300 worth of protein bars.
00:30:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that's worth it.
00:30:49
Natalie Richards
this
00:30:52
Natalie Richards
I need things like that too, where I can just like eat that.
00:30:52
Felicia Devine
So yeah.
00:30:55
Natalie Richards
I have to also, I, I've had like a candida overgrowth for two years, like absolutely a couple of years.
00:30:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:31:03
Natalie Richards
And I have to just do
00:31:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:05
Natalie Richards
a dang candida diet. I have to do it.
00:31:07
Felicia Devine
Is that no sugar?
00:31:08
Natalie Richards
It's literally no sugar, no sweet fruit, no... Actually, I read something that you can still do like kombucha and like fermented things because to technically I think you're not...
00:31:17
Felicia Devine
Pre-fermented? Yeah.
00:31:20
Natalie Richards
So you can do that, but everything's just like vegetables and no like starches, like no for at least a couple weeks, which I can do for a couple weeks, but probably more like a month.
00:31:28
Felicia Devine
For how long?
00:31:31
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:31:35
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:31:35
Natalie Richards
So I just have to do it. i have to do it.
00:31:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:38
Natalie Richards
So that's my, not necessarily, I'm not, I really don't.
00:31:38
Felicia Devine
Do you have sugar cravings?
00:31:42
Natalie Richards
It's more like carbs in general.
00:31:43
Felicia Devine
That's good.
00:31:44
Natalie Richards
So I just need to be done with with the carbs and just see what happens.
00:31:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:49
Natalie Richards
And I'm hoping it'll work.
00:31:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:51
Natalie Richards
But that's my other like new year, i don't know if it's a resolution, but it's like this year I just need to do this.
00:31:57
Felicia Devine
New year to-do list. It's your to-do list.
00:32:01
Natalie Richards
Wait, I have to, okay. I have to tell you.

Lifestyle Changes and Conspiracy Theories

00:32:03
Natalie Richards
So ky Kyle, Kyle, first of all, to say he is doing so well.
00:32:03
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:32:09
Natalie Richards
He has now been, think like 60 something days without drinking alcohol, which I don't know if, I think this guy's been drinking alcohol since he was probably 14 years old.
00:32:10
Felicia Devine
Good.
00:32:17
Felicia Devine
That's lovely.
00:32:22
Natalie Richards
I don't even know.
00:32:22
Felicia Devine
I was going to say 13, 14, but yeah.
00:32:23
Natalie Richards
but i don't even know. And recently it hasn't been like that much, but I think it was enough to just make him feel just junky.
00:32:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:32:34
Natalie Richards
So he has felt so good and has been doing so well.
00:32:36
Felicia Devine
Good.
00:32:38
Natalie Richards
So he's like 60 days without anything, which is crazy
00:32:42
Felicia Devine
And that also includes energy drinks or no?
00:32:45
Natalie Richards
he's been, yeah he hasn't been doing energy drinks either.
00:32:46
Felicia Devine
Good.
00:32:49
Felicia Devine
Good for him.
00:32:51
Natalie Richards
but his, it's so funny because he started texting me the other day and he's like, what's that? So like, what's that, but that, what did he say?
00:33:00
Natalie Richards
The shake thing that you do? i go, what are you talking about?
00:33:05
Felicia Devine
What's that Shakira device you have?
00:33:06
Natalie Richards
What do you mean? He goes, can you tell me like what it does? I'm like, okay, did you see something about this?
00:33:12
Felicia Devine
Interest piquing his interest.
00:33:15
Natalie Richards
That's so funny.
00:33:18
Felicia Devine
Oh. Uh-huh.
00:33:18
Natalie Richards
So he was like, so I explained to him what the vibration plate was and all of that. then a couple of days later, he goes, do you think I should do a parasite cleanse? like
00:33:32
Natalie Richards
And i go, I'm sorry, have our algorithms switched? Yeah.
00:33:35
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. Is he just getting inundated with like wellness?
00:33:38
Natalie Richards
I think he's getting all of the wellness, like all the wellness stuff, but it's got to be from people he follows that they are changing.
00:33:43
Felicia Devine
I wonder if he's like, i was going to people he follows or like, like no alcohol.
00:33:48
Felicia Devine
Like, yeah.
00:33:49
Natalie Richards
I think that's what it is.
00:33:50
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:33:50
Natalie Richards
So he's started to like, to go down this holistic route and I'm like, no way. There's no way.
00:33:56
Felicia Devine
That is crazy.
00:33:57
Natalie Richards
So funny.
00:33:58
Felicia Devine
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
00:33:59
Natalie Richards
yeah. You can't. They have to find it themselves.
00:34:01
Felicia Devine
They defied him.
00:34:02
Natalie Richards
And that is okay.
00:34:02
Felicia Devine
Yep. Yep. So he's finding his water source.
00:34:05
Natalie Richards
i knew he'd come around sometime.
00:34:08
Felicia Devine
I love it.
00:34:09
Natalie Richards
isn't that so funny?
00:34:10
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:34:11
Natalie Richards
So we're both off to a good start now that I've fixed my head injury.
00:34:11
Felicia Devine
Good for him.
00:34:15
Felicia Devine
Your concussion.
00:34:16
Natalie Richards
And he's going to laugh when I tell him that because I haven't even told him that that's what my theory is.
00:34:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. I can't wait.
00:34:24
Natalie Richards
He's going to be like, are you kidding?
00:34:27
Felicia Devine
He's like, we went through all that.
00:34:28
Natalie Richards
I'm like, no, I have had a problem. i have not been okay.
00:34:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I'm sure he's going to like, no, I knew like something was wrong.
00:34:35
Natalie Richards
Probably. Yeah.
00:34:36
Felicia Devine
He won't know what it was.
00:34:37
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:34:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:38
Natalie Richards
Then he'll be like, okay, that makes sense.
00:34:39
Felicia Devine
Any good husband will not pick apart your, your faults.
00:34:43
Natalie Richards
And then poor Kyle, who's had like eight concussions. I can't even imagine what that does to a person.
00:34:45
Felicia Devine
Right. Oh, I know his poor brain. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:51
Natalie Richards
I think people don't realize or don't notice it, but I was like, this is not
00:34:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:56
Natalie Richards
This is not me.
00:34:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No, I know.
00:34:58
Natalie Richards
I know. Like what? Yeah.
00:34:59
Felicia Devine
When you were telling me during that Christmas episode, you're like, I'm saying no to everything.
00:35:01
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:35:02
Felicia Devine
I'm like, huh, that's odd.
00:35:03
Natalie Richards
sad. It so
00:35:05
Felicia Devine
Cause Natalie's my girl. If I'm like crazy idea out on a stretch, like out on a limb, she'll be like yep, let's do it.
00:35:11
Natalie Richards
sad.
00:35:14
Natalie Richards
i know it's so sad it was so sad
00:35:15
Felicia Devine
I love it. Well, i'm I'm happier on the other side of it.
00:35:19
Natalie Richards
Thank God. and then I texted you.
00:35:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:21
Natalie Richards
I was like, we need to go on a trip or do something because that was me in my depression stage where I was like, I got guy got to get out of here.
00:35:23
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yeah, you needed to like book something. Yeah.
00:35:30
Natalie Richards
and I need I don't know.
00:35:30
Felicia Devine
Where do you want to go What should we do?
00:35:32
Natalie Richards
i don't know. But we need to do something. i want At the time, I wanted to just like go to a spa, just go pick a spot, pick a hotel call it a day.
00:35:37
Felicia Devine
Lovely.
00:35:41
Felicia Devine
I'm there.
00:35:43
Natalie Richards
But now I'm like, don't feel like I need that as much, but I still do.
00:35:48
Felicia Devine
You're like, and epic ski trip.
00:35:49
Natalie Richards
I know. I was like, maybe we could go skiing. So I don't know. We'll see.
00:35:53
Felicia Devine
Okay. We will plan something.
00:35:55
Natalie Richards
We'll see.
00:35:56
Felicia Devine
Back to the algorithms.
00:35:57
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:35:59
Felicia Devine
Dan's algorithm is so hardcore conspiracy theory.
00:36:00
Natalie Richards
Oh, God.
00:36:03
Felicia Devine
It's crazy.
00:36:05
Natalie Richards
See, I love that too.
00:36:06
Felicia Devine
i do too. So I think he had mentioned this a couple, maybe months ago or weeks ago.
00:36:07
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:36:11
Felicia Devine
He was like, I want my birthday party. He doesn't ask for birthday parties. So I'm like, birthday party.
00:36:16
Natalie Richards
A birthday party.
00:36:17
Felicia Devine
Okay. So now I just throw him 34.
00:36:17
Natalie Richards
How old is he going to be?
00:36:21
Felicia Devine
thirty four thirty I don't know.
00:36:24
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:36:24
Felicia Devine
Wait.
00:36:28
Felicia Devine
35. 91. 35.
00:36:29
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's a big, see, that's a big birthday.
00:36:29
Felicia Devine
Old man.
00:36:31
Natalie Richards
Ooh, daddy.
00:36:31
Felicia Devine
Old man Danny. So he he wants his birthday party to be a conspiracy theory birthday party where everybody they come dressed as their conspiracy theory and then they present on it with a slideshow.
00:36:41
Natalie Richards
Where everybody presents their conspiracy. I've seen that. I wanted to do it. Okay.
00:36:52
Natalie Richards
And try to convince everybody that the conspiracy is real.
00:36:53
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:36:55
Natalie Richards
That is like a dream.
00:36:56
Felicia Devine
do you guys want to come?
00:36:57
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:36:57
Felicia Devine
you guys should come.
00:36:58
Natalie Richards
Wait. Yes. I want to.
00:36:59
Felicia Devine
Mid-February.
00:37:01
Natalie Richards
oh my gosh.
00:37:02
Felicia Devine
i know. It would be so fun. I'm excited. I'm like, I need to plan this and come up with like the best conspiracy.
00:37:06
Natalie Richards
That's amazing.
00:37:09
Felicia Devine
like I kind of want to do oh i don't want to do the one about like how we didn't actually land on the moon and dress like an astronaut.
00:37:14
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes. Yes. That would be so funny. And have you heard the one that like the dinosaurs were not real?
00:37:23
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:37:23
Natalie Richards
Like everything is not real.
00:37:25
Felicia Devine
Yes. But Dan yesterday was like, yes.
00:37:26
Natalie Richards
i can't. I would do the Northern Lights i have because i own i because I have to dive into it.
00:37:27
Felicia Devine
And then the other day, Dan's like, how did we get on this topic? How like, were the aliens that crashed into earth and like killed the dinosaurs? I'm i like, so what you're saying is you're not Catholic.
00:37:53
Felicia Devine
Are you telling me you're not Catholic anymore?
00:37:57
Felicia Devine
but I'm just like, this is this. we could We could have so much fun with it.
00:38:01
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:38:02
Felicia Devine
i just love it.
00:38:03
Natalie Richards
I cannot.
00:38:04
Felicia Devine
I know. so So he's like Mr.
00:38:06
Natalie Richards
That would be so fun.
00:38:07
Felicia Devine
Conspiracy Theory.
00:38:09
Natalie Richards
I saw people doing that for their Christmas and I would totally do that.
00:38:09
Felicia Devine
Also, so fun.
00:38:14
Natalie Richards
How fun would that be?
00:38:14
Felicia Devine
I love an interactive party.
00:38:16
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:38:17
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:38:18
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:38:19
Felicia Devine
So think we'll do that for his birthday. The other thing is, did you watch the act of or the Age of Disclosure?
00:38:25
Natalie Richards
No. What is that?
00:38:27
Felicia Devine
It's like this documentary that just came out on Amazon.
00:38:28
Natalie Richards
A documentary?
00:38:31
Felicia Devine
It's about the, like, in 2020, Trump signed a, what's it called?
00:38:40
Natalie Richards
Some act. Some...
00:38:41
Felicia Devine
an act within like the COVID legislation, all this stuff.
00:38:45
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:38:45
Felicia Devine
But it was like, basically you had to disclose all these like undercover, like alien operations you guys do. And that's why like they started releasing like, like what's what's it called?
00:38:53
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah.
00:38:56
Natalie Richards
All these files.
00:38:58
Felicia Devine
Uh, what's it called when you go under oath? I can't even think of the word.
00:39:03
Natalie Richards
Oh, God.
00:39:04
Felicia Devine
What do I, what's going on with me? Anyway, it's all these like court hearings about people that have like interacted with like classified things.
00:39:06
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:39:11
Natalie Richards
All these like classified things. Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Basically they have to disclose what they've been doing for all these years.
00:39:18
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:39:19
Felicia Devine
And there's like, it's just wild.
00:39:21
Natalie Richards
My uncle, my uncle who lives, my dad's brother who lives next door to my parents, he ever since I can remember, he has told me all of his alien, he like he dove deep into alien conspiracies And for I remember being like seven years old sitting there and like listening to him about all of his, all the stuff that he knew about Roswell and like all of this stuff about aliens and how it's tied into so many different things.
00:39:21
Felicia Devine
Cause it's, it's incredible.
00:39:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right.
00:39:48
Felicia Devine
It's crazy.
00:39:50
Natalie Richards
And now it's like, oh yeah, like half of that stuff is real and they just declassified it. know.
00:39:55
Felicia Devine
Right. And like now they have to tell us, but it's crazy. It's like, nobody's talking about it.
00:40:00
Natalie Richards
No, because every because there's a there's some crisis that happens every two days.
00:40:01
Felicia Devine
Like,
00:40:04
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:40:05
Natalie Richards
So nothing.
00:40:05
Felicia Devine
She's a cover up. So that's a conspiracy.
00:40:07
Natalie Richards
Everybody talks about it and then it comes out that it's real. And then it's like, oh, well, okay, moving on.
00:40:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh, well, I guess we could have expected that. Yeah.
00:40:15
Natalie Richards
like COVID.
00:40:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:16
Natalie Richards
Let's just move right along. Okay. All right. No, we weren't right.
00:40:18
Felicia Devine
Yep. Yep.
00:40:19
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:40:20
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:40:20
Natalie Richards
Whatever.
00:40:21
Felicia Devine
One of the crazy things was like these people that are like, quote unquote, whistleblowing in the government right now about this like Disclosure Act.
00:40:26
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:40:28
Felicia Devine
They're saying like, it's actually like a national security threat that we have aliens and aren't telling people.
00:40:34
Natalie Richards
For sure.
00:40:35
Felicia Devine
Like we have no control of our airspaces.
00:40:35
Natalie Richards
God.
00:40:37
Felicia Devine
So at these different like nuclear sites, See, now that I'm saying this online, we're going to get like, the aliens are going to come for us. The government's going to come for me.
00:40:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah, they will.
00:40:48
Felicia Devine
But they're, we're with you.
00:40:48
Natalie Richards
We'll be your friends. Don't worry.
00:40:51
Felicia Devine
We stand with you.
00:40:52
Natalie Richards
we're We're on your side.
00:40:54
Felicia Devine
I believe in you.
00:40:58
Felicia Devine
These nuclear power sites, like where we have nuclear warheads, are being turned off.
00:41:00
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:41:03
Natalie Richards
Yes, that's it all runs together.
00:41:05
Felicia Devine
Crazy.
00:41:06
Natalie Richards
All the nuclear bomb, like, God, this is good.
00:41:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:11
Felicia Devine
How did we get here? were supposed to be like New Year's resolution and now we're talking about aliens.
00:41:12
Natalie Richards
Aliens and nuclear testing and all this stuff are all like so tied together.
00:41:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:18
Natalie Richards
And then all like military people, like pilots, fighter pilots, they all believe in aliens because they've all seen them.
00:41:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:24
Felicia Devine
Yes. But you know how many and NDAs they have to sign?
00:41:27
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:41:27
Felicia Devine
They're literally like, we will kill your firstborn child if you even say one ounce of what you saw.
00:41:30
Natalie Richards
oh my God.
00:41:33
Natalie Richards
lord
00:41:33
Felicia Devine
So that's why this act of disclosure is that what it's Age of Disclosure it's such a cool documentary because they're really diving into like, they're trying to declassify things so people can actually share their experiences because they're crazy.
00:41:45
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:41:47
Felicia Devine
Like some of these accounts of these like black cubes that are floating without any noise, any light, any like sign of propulsion, defying all like things of physics that we currently know or share, currently share.
00:41:51
Natalie Richards
Yes. The cubes. I've heard that multiple times. a
00:42:00
Natalie Richards
Oh my God. Uh-huh.
00:42:02
Felicia Devine
We know, we know.
00:42:03
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:42:04
Felicia Devine
And then these like time continuing bubbles where it's like they're warped between a different time.
00:42:05
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:42:10
Felicia Devine
It's honestly crazy. That's why, oh you know how like everyone who takes like a picture of a UFO, it's like blurry and terrible photo.
00:42:17
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:42:17
Felicia Devine
You're like, how do have bad photos of UFOs?
00:42:19
Natalie Richards
Right. It's like Bigfoot. Sure.
00:42:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So Bigfoot might be in a little bubble like this, but basically their theory is that they're in this like space bubble where time is warped.
00:42:28
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:42:30
Felicia Devine
And so when you take a photo of it, it's like,
00:42:32
Natalie Richards
Sure, it doesn't come out clear.
00:42:33
Felicia Devine
blurry, it doesn't come out clear, or it's like invisible because they're literally traveling so quickly and they're from like such a far away existence that it literally, we can't perceive it.
00:42:35
Natalie Richards
That makes sense.
00:42:43
Natalie Richards
It makes sense. I'm convinced.
00:42:47
Felicia Devine
I did a terrible job describing it Go rent it on Amazon. It's worth the money. I think it was like $10, $20.
00:42:53
Natalie Richards
What?
00:42:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah, but worth it.
00:42:55
Natalie Richards
I'll go watch it.
00:42:55
Felicia Devine
I'm telling you where the the other movie I rented, which was not worth it, was that stupid Jack Black Santa movie.
00:42:56
Natalie Richards
I'll go watch it.
00:43:02
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:43:04
Felicia Devine
I was influenced and I was like, I don't even like Jack Black.
00:43:05
Natalie Richards
What?
00:43:07
Felicia Devine
It was terrible. Do not watch it. Do not rent it.
00:43:09
Natalie Richards
I will not. i didn't have any thought.
00:43:10
Felicia Devine
Do not give Jack Black one penny. It was weird.
00:43:12
Natalie Richards
I didn't have any thought.
00:43:13
Felicia Devine
It was about Satan. I didn't know it was about Satan.
00:43:16
Natalie Richards
Oh no.
00:43:16
Felicia Devine
And he's done another Satan movie.
00:43:18
Natalie Richards
Oh, see, okay.
00:43:19
Felicia Devine
So Threads of Satan?
00:43:19
Natalie Richards
This brings me back to what was that documentary that came out right when COVID came out?
00:43:21
Felicia Devine
No.
00:43:26
Natalie Richards
It was called like
00:43:27
Felicia Devine
The one where they're like drinking children's blood.
00:43:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah, where it literally was like exposing all of Hollywood's like satanic things.
00:43:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah, I saw that.
00:43:35
Natalie Richards
And I was like, oh my God.
00:43:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:37
Natalie Richards
Like it was all no.
00:43:37
Felicia Devine
I know. I don't support that.
00:43:41
Natalie Richards
and it's but it's real, real, real.
00:43:43
Felicia Devine
yeah Right.
00:43:45
Natalie Richards
What was that called? And then they took it, they removed it. Like you can't find it anymore.
00:43:48
Felicia Devine
Oh, you can't. That's probably why they wiped it from our memories like Men in Black.
00:43:49
Natalie Richards
Gosh darn it, what was it called? Yeah, right.
00:43:53
Felicia Devine
No, I remember that, though.
00:43:53
Natalie Richards
That was crazy.
00:43:54
Felicia Devine
I watched that.
00:43:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:56
Felicia Devine
Speaking of blood, I started taking blood pills
00:44:00
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh.
00:44:01
Felicia Devine
Natalie, I can't.
00:44:02
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:44:04
Felicia Devine
I'm obsessed.
00:44:05
Natalie Richards
Is that one called life? What is that one called?
00:44:07
Felicia Devine
It's called lifeblood.
00:44:07
Natalie Richards
Lifeblood? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:07
Felicia Devine
It's literally, it's literally dehydrated blood, which is crazy wild.
00:44:10
Natalie Richards
Just dehydrated blood. No, it's amazing.
00:44:14
Felicia Devine
I'm like, and I'm like on the, the, yeah.
00:44:16
Natalie Richards
does that have marrow in it too? Desiccated marrow? Yeah.
00:44:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So on the nutrition label, it literally is like white blood cells, red blood cells, platelets, immune globulin.
00:44:25
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:44:25
Felicia Devine
Like it lists out like what you're actually, can it's insane.
00:44:28
Natalie Richards
It's amazing.

Supplements and Health Misconceptions

00:44:30
Felicia Devine
I'm obsessed. So my new prenatal regimen, gorgeous, gorgeous.
00:44:33
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:44:35
Felicia Devine
I can't wait to share more about that, but I just, yeah.
00:44:35
Natalie Richards
Love, love, love, love, love. We'll talk about that next episode.
00:44:39
Felicia Devine
But I just like keep around the house. I'm like, Oh Dan, do you want some blood pills? And he's like, Felicia, if you can't stop saying that, like we're going to have a problem. I'm like, no, I'm so excited about them.
00:44:48
Natalie Richards
I'm so into all of like the dried organ stuff.
00:44:52
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:44:53
Natalie Richards
I am so into it. I actually started taking, what's it called? Primal Queen. Have you seen all the ads for that?
00:44:58
Felicia Devine
Oh no, but I love the name.
00:45:00
Natalie Richards
I know, right? It's like the the branding is good.
00:45:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:03
Natalie Richards
It's good branding. And it's it was like all over my Instagram, but it's a it's pretty good.
00:45:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:09
Natalie Richards
Like it's a good quality.
00:45:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:10
Natalie Richards
It's liver, ovary, fallopian tube, uterus, like all of the the female ones because I'm already doing the dried thyroid and the dried other liver and heart and spleen and all of that.
00:45:13
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:45:16
Felicia Devine
Queen. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:45:21
Natalie Richards
So was like, yeah, I need one that has ovary and fallopian tube and uterus.
00:45:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:24
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:45:25
Felicia Devine
Absolutely.
00:45:26
Natalie Richards
And I tell you, my cycles are pristine. They were pretty good before, but like now they're really good.
00:45:31
Felicia Devine
Are they? Yeah.
00:45:33
Natalie Richards
Like really good.
00:45:33
Felicia Devine
I love that.
00:45:35
Natalie Richards
Like the quality of, this is not TMI.
00:45:35
Felicia Devine
o Good.
00:45:39
Natalie Richards
Nothing is TMI.
00:45:41
Felicia Devine
If you made it 45 minutes into this podcast, nothing is TMI.
00:45:44
Natalie Richards
have listened to us before. Nothing is DMI. But it's like I start my period. It's like red, heavy, like bright red, not clumpy, not globby.
00:45:53
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:56
Natalie Richards
And it's like perfection for like a couple days. And then it trails off a little bit and gets like lighter but still red.
00:46:02
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:46:04
Natalie Richards
and then maybe one day where it's like brown and it's done.
00:46:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:07
Natalie Richards
And I couldn't, I mean, I haven't had cramps in years, but like nothing.
00:46:08
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:46:12
Natalie Richards
I couldn't even tell you that I even feel anything when my period's coming.
00:46:14
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:46:17
Natalie Richards
Like it doesn't, the sensation doesn't exist.
00:46:21
Felicia Devine
And that's birth, wait, birth queen? No.
00:46:23
Natalie Richards
That one's Primal Queen.
00:46:24
Felicia Devine
Primal queen.
00:46:25
Natalie Richards
I've done that for like a few months and it's definitely, definitely helped because I was having more brown trailing at the end before where it was pretty good, but it was like a little darker blood.
00:46:26
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:46:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:37
Felicia Devine
Does that show signs of like a fatigued uterus?
00:46:41
Natalie Richards
the The brown, it's more of like, I think estrogen is
00:46:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:49
Natalie Richards
not high enough for a long enough time.
00:46:52
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:46:52
Natalie Richards
It might be a fatigued uterus. Yeah, absolutely.
00:46:54
Felicia Devine
Because I know if you...
00:46:54
Natalie Richards
Where it's not contracting appropriately to get the to get everything out.
00:46:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:46:58
Felicia Devine
Right. it's like It's like tired at the end.
00:46:59
Natalie Richards
h I think if you don't have heaviness enough at the beginning, you're going to have more of that brown trailing at the end because you really need it to just like flush and come out.
00:47:00
Felicia Devine
I know if you...
00:47:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:07
Felicia Devine
Okay. Dump out.
00:47:11
Natalie Richards
Like you shouldn't have five, six, seven day cycles really.
00:47:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:14
Felicia Devine
Right, right.
00:47:14
Natalie Richards
Like it should just be four days of pretty good bleed and then you're done.
00:47:17
Felicia Devine
Right, that's what, that's what might have been for the past like, well, since I got my period after SEP.
00:47:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:24
Natalie Richards
It's amazing. ever After I had Gina, everything was so good.
00:47:24
Felicia Devine
I love it. It's also so convenient.
00:47:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:28
Felicia Devine
Like only bleeding for four days. Love that.
00:47:29
Natalie Richards
It's amazing. It's what everybody should strive for, just so you know.
00:47:31
Felicia Devine
Love that. yeah
00:47:34
Natalie Richards
Just in case you're wondering what a normal functional cycle is you shouldn't really have much cramping and you really shouldn't have like this weird like brown at the beginning or pink at the beginning or all this stuff that people have.
00:47:42
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:47:47
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yep.
00:47:50
Natalie Richards
something is not right.
00:47:51
Felicia Devine
Something is not right.
00:47:51
Natalie Richards
Even if it's 28 days or 30 days consistently, if it doesn't look good during that bleed and it's not like super red, it's not clumpy, stringy, all of that stuff.
00:47:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:58
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah.
00:48:06
Natalie Richards
Like it should be like it shouldn't be c cloudy, shouldn't be bright like dark, deep red.
00:48:06
Felicia Devine
Clawdy. Right.
00:48:11
Natalie Richards
Like it should just be bright, oxygenated blood that sloughs off and is done.
00:48:14
Felicia Devine
Blood.
00:48:16
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:48:17
Natalie Richards
Anyway, just in case anybody's wondering.
00:48:18
Felicia Devine
Love that. And if it's not, Primal Queen.
00:48:20
Natalie Richards
Because I think a lot of people don't know that.
00:48:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:23
Natalie Richards
A lot of people do not know that at all.
00:48:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:24
Natalie Richards
And they're like, oh, my period comes like at the right time every month, everything's good. And it's like, no, you have to think about what actually right, exactly.
00:48:30
Felicia Devine
And they bleed for nine days. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:34
Natalie Richards
Not normal.
00:48:35
Felicia Devine
So if if you're struggling with that, Primal Queen and Lifeblood.
00:48:40
Natalie Richards
lifeblood would be a good first start.
00:48:41
Felicia Devine
From heart and soil. Yeah.
00:48:43
Natalie Richards
I love heart and soil. I think it's great.
00:48:44
Felicia Devine
Okay. Oh, another thing I'm bringing into 2026 is consistently swallowing pills again.
00:48:48
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes, me too
00:48:52
Felicia Devine
i still have such a pill aversion, but since I got the heart and soil, because I'm so excited about it.
00:48:54
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:48:57
Natalie Richards
You feel better about it.
00:48:58
Felicia Devine
Oh, I'm just like slugging them back for my whole regimen. Cause I'm taking four different products for this prenatal thing.
00:49:04
Natalie Richards
Oh, it's like 30 pills probably. No, it's probably 20.
00:49:08
Felicia Devine
24, 24 pills. So I'm doing, two, four, or six.
00:49:09
Natalie Richards
o Are you muscle testing yourself on those?
00:49:13
Felicia Devine
No, I should though for dosage.
00:49:14
Natalie Richards
You should.
00:49:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Cause I'm doing, well, I got it this weekend. So I'm doing two of each of the four. So eight, wait, two, four, yeah eight.
00:49:27
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:49:29
Felicia Devine
Eight in the morning, eight at lunch, and then eight at night.
00:49:32
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:49:32
Felicia Devine
Just because I can't take 24 pills at once.
00:49:34
Natalie Richards
Do it all of it together.
00:49:35
Felicia Devine
But because it's...
00:49:36
Natalie Richards
Muscle test yourself for sure.
00:49:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:49:37
Natalie Richards
Because Primal Queen, I test for double what the dosage says, but then all my other all my other desiccated ones, I test for like half.
00:49:38
Felicia Devine
And...
00:49:41
Felicia Devine
Oh...
00:49:46
Felicia Devine
Okay. Interesting.
00:49:47
Natalie Richards
So, mm-hmm.
00:49:48
Felicia Devine
I'm interested to see what it's going to do too, because I had such bad, busy legs during my first pregnancy.
00:49:55
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:49:56
Felicia Devine
I literally was like crawling out of my skin. And once we figured out was an iron deficiency and I started my iron supplements, I had no busy legs.
00:50:00
Natalie Richards
Oh. Oh, yeah.
00:50:06
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:50:06
Felicia Devine
So taking this lifeblood now getting ahead of it and not having an iron deficient.
00:50:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And Danny too.
00:50:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:50:11
Natalie Richards
Have Danny do some of it.
00:50:13
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah. I mean, if I keep talking about it the way I do, he's never going to take it. I'm like, blood.
00:50:19
Natalie Richards
I just started Kyle on on testicle.
00:50:20
Felicia Devine
this Oh.
00:50:23
Natalie Richards
And like a whole blend of like testicle prostate.
00:50:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Wait, which brand is that?
00:50:26
Natalie Richards
I was doing, and well, heat Heart and Soil has it too, but that one's just testicle.
00:50:31
Felicia Devine
Okay, because I...
00:50:33
Natalie Richards
I think I have a whole package.
00:50:33
Felicia Devine
Is it called like Whole Package? Yeah.
00:50:36
Natalie Richards
I have Kyle on the ancient nutrition one, which is called Male Performance, I think is what it's called.
00:50:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:43
Natalie Richards
And that has like, it has some herbs in it, but it also has like a ton of dried organs.
00:50:43
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:50:47
Felicia Devine
of Oregon. Okay.
00:50:49
Natalie Richards
So I think that one was the best one I found.
00:50:50
Felicia Devine
I should get him, I should get him the heart and soil whole package.
00:50:54
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:50:55
Felicia Devine
He would love that.
00:50:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah. That would be a good birthday present for his his conspiracy birthday.
00:50:58
Felicia Devine
That what? His conspiracy. see
00:51:03
Felicia Devine
my God. I'm so excited about that. Okay. So 2026 going to be a great year.
00:51:06
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:51:09
Felicia Devine
going to have lots of fun with the podcast. We're going to do some traveling together, take lots of trips.
00:51:11
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:51:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:51:15
Natalie Richards
I'm going to post something on Instagram, maybe both of us should, about like any top specific topics that anybody wants us to talk about because we could talk about general things all day.
00:51:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:51:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:51:27
Natalie Richards
But I know people really like I know.
00:51:28
Felicia Devine
Well, we talked about a lot today that we didn't even plan on talking about. So
00:51:30
Natalie Richards
People really like when we talk about something specific and like a I think we should actually.
00:51:34
Felicia Devine
yeah, I liked that. We should talk about the cycle because that was really cool that you shared that.
00:51:38
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:51:40
Felicia Devine
And then i feel like that, because from what I've gained from people that have talked to me about the podcast is that we are like shedding light on topics that are at the forefront of like wellness culture or like, like everyone's heard of a vibe plate, right?
00:51:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:51:55
Felicia Devine
They don't maybe know exactly what it does, but everyone's seen it.
00:51:58
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:51:58
Felicia Devine
But like people aren't hearing about like what your blood color should be when you're on your period, how many days your period should actually be.
00:52:03
Natalie Richards
Right, right.
00:52:06
Felicia Devine
Like, so I think, I think this is like where people like the niche is like, we're talking about things that are just like off the beaten path and yeah.
00:52:06
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:52:10
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:52:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah, but like real life.
00:52:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And on need to know basis.
00:52:15
Natalie Richards
that everyone should know, but like when we were living in a village, everybody knew this stuff, and we just don't talk about this stuff anymore.
00:52:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:52:21
Felicia Devine
Great. Yes. Get your me swag, sit down, pop on your red light therapy while you're listening to us.
00:52:28
Natalie Richards
wait I'm going to buy one.
00:52:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:52:29
Natalie Richards
I'm going to buy one.
00:52:29
Felicia Devine
it is I'll send you the link.
00:52:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:52:32
Felicia Devine
but okay. So for luxury hopping, people could be listening to our podcast while doing their wellness routine.
00:52:37
Natalie Richards
There we go. There we go.
00:52:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So let us know tag us in the tag us in your, uh, your, I don't even know what it's called your story.
00:52:39
Natalie Richards
and love it.
00:52:45
Natalie Richards
Whatever.
00:52:45
Felicia Devine
Share, like, save. Hopefully, hopefully in 2026, we get our first brand deal.
00:52:51
Natalie Richards
oh my God. Can you imagine? Ooh.
00:52:53
Felicia Devine
i would love it. Maybe it'll be Heart and Soil or Primal Queen.
00:52:57
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:52:58
Felicia Devine
I know. Yeah. All right.
00:52:59
Natalie Richards
I'll reach out. Bye.
00:53:01
Felicia Devine
Okay. We'll see you next time.

Outro