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S2.Ep9 - From Fight Night to Field-Harvested Cows
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In this episode, we accidentally uncover our chiropractic origin stories — and somehow end up discussing boxing injuries, pregnancy Pilates drama, ethically raised cows, toddler sleep chaos, and full-moon parenting survival strategies.
Felicia shares how a concussion from a college boxing match changed the trajectory of her life (and career), while Natalie reflects on growing up adjusted from infancy and what lifelong chiropractic care actually looks like. Along the way, we debate corporate fitness culture, regenerative food sourcing, parasite protocols, potty-training negotiations, and why toddlers somehow always know when you’re trying to rest.
It’s equal parts philosophy, motherhood, and absolute feral chaos — just how we like it.
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Transcript
Opening and Greetings
00:00:51
Felicia Devine
Hello, and welcome back to episode nine.
00:00:53
Natalie Richards
Hello, Felicia.
00:00:54
Felicia Devine
Hi, Natalie.
00:00:56
Natalie Richards
Here we are. Back in our...
00:00:58
Felicia Devine
Josie, sit down.
00:00:59
Natalie Richards
Oh, Josephine.
00:01:00
Felicia Devine
Sit down. If you're a viewer and not just a listener, Josephine has decided to turn her back to us.
00:01:02
Natalie Richards
Josephine here with us.
00:01:08
Natalie Richards
Oh, she's like, oh no you you people don't get my mama.
00:01:10
Felicia Devine
Oh, no.
00:01:12
Natalie Richards
It's my mama.
00:01:13
Felicia Devine
No, it's my mommy.
00:01:14
Natalie Richards
o
00:01:15
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:01:15
Natalie Richards
who
00:01:15
Felicia Devine
speaking they down si So she's sitting in my chair with me and licking my face.
00:01:18
Natalie Richards
Oh, sweet baby. She's like, I know you're doing something that's...
00:01:23
Felicia Devine
I hope this isn't ASMR licking.
00:01:25
Natalie Richards
just She literally was fine until we hit record.
00:01:28
Felicia Devine
she was She was sitting like a perfect associate.
00:01:28
Natalie Richards
Hello, baby.
00:01:33
Felicia Devine
And then now she's like acting a fool that we hit record. Oh, hold on.
00:01:36
Natalie Richards
my God. I'm just going to knock your stuff down.
00:01:37
Felicia Devine
Okay, she's gone. Bye, Feeny.
00:01:39
Natalie Richards
Okay. Bye, Feeney.
00:01:40
Felicia Devine
We'll see you later. Okay.
00:01:41
Natalie Richards
Love you. Oh my gosh.
Upcoming Visit Plans
00:01:43
Natalie Richards
Wait. We have to talk about the fact that I am coming to see you in like four days. Five days.
00:01:50
Felicia Devine
I know. very excited.
00:01:51
Natalie Richards
I cannot wait.
00:01:52
Felicia Devine
Okay, had to say something.
00:01:55
Natalie Richards
Please.
00:01:56
Felicia Devine
You texted me the other night. First off, I was already asleep, so that's why I didn't respond.
00:01:59
Natalie Richards
I did.
00:02:00
Felicia Devine
Okay, Natalie goes, should we do Pilates when I'm there?
00:02:00
Natalie Richards
did.
00:02:06
Felicia Devine
na
00:02:07
Natalie Richards
Is that so unusual?
00:02:10
Felicia Devine
You expect me to go in public and work out right now? I just started working out.
00:02:15
Natalie Richards
I thought you were back on the Pilates game.
00:02:17
Felicia Devine
I am, but like in private.
00:02:19
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:02:20
Felicia Devine
Like I'm doing Pilates in house.
00:02:21
Natalie Richards
oh oh
00:02:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I'm doing my Peloton Pilates, which we can totally do, but I'm not going in public to do Pilates right now.
00:02:27
Natalie Richards
I misunderstood.
00:02:32
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:02:32
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:02:33
Natalie Richards
Fine.
00:02:34
Felicia Devine
I have to take a break every three minutes and literally exhaust it.
Pilates and Public Exercise Concerns
00:02:39
Felicia Devine
Pilates is so hard.
00:02:40
Natalie Richards
It is hard.
00:02:41
Felicia Devine
It's so hard. Now, I also got kicked out of my Pilates studio.
00:02:42
Natalie Richards
o
00:02:45
Felicia Devine
So when I was pregnant,
00:02:46
Natalie Richards
Why? Oh, they didn't let you come?
00:02:51
Felicia Devine
No, they like literally made a fool out of me in public. um
00:02:55
Natalie Richards
What?
00:02:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I was 30.
00:02:57
Natalie Richards
Wait, please, please expand.
00:02:57
Felicia Devine
I
00:03:01
Felicia Devine
i was 33 34 weeks pregnant. The only reason I remember that is because it was like right after our ski trip when I went up for my birthday. So said, I've been going to Pilates since before I got pregnant.
00:03:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:03:16
Felicia Devine
i I took a hiatus when I was really sick, like nauseous and like couldn't really do much.
00:03:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:03:22
Felicia Devine
But I continued back like regular scheduled program when I was when i was pregnant.
00:03:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah, feeling good.
00:03:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:03:27
Natalie Richards
one
00:03:27
Felicia Devine
And I've been an athlete my whole life. i know how to modify things. I know what I can and can't do.
00:03:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:03:32
Felicia Devine
I know what is like vulnerable for my body and what's not. So like every class I would just kind of modify as I saw fit. And I just like didn't really make a big deal out of it.
00:03:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:03:44
Felicia Devine
Like I was just like, okay. Like if if you're doing like um like a boat pose with rotation, i'm just going to put my knees down and go backwards and not rotate.
00:03:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:03:52
Felicia Devine
Like I just would make it like what it would be for mine.
00:03:53
Natalie Richards
Yes. Because you know.
00:03:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I knew.
00:03:56
Natalie Richards
ah
00:03:56
Felicia Devine
So I wasn't aware that they had a policy and maybe they didn't because i've I'm skeptical that like you can't go to their studio and take classes after a certain amount of weeks.
00:04:01
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:04:10
Natalie Richards
What?
00:04:11
Felicia Devine
And I didn't, A, know that policy existed and B, I don't even know what that number of weeks is because I was like on unaware of it.
00:04:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:04:19
Felicia Devine
So I signed up for this class and it was a level 1.5. So it's like moderate, beget like more beginner than it is moderate.
00:04:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:04:27
Felicia Devine
Like ah it's like not a level two yet.
00:04:28
Natalie Richards
Is this Club Pilates?
00:04:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it's club plotteries for all those out here listening.
00:04:31
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:04:33
Natalie Richards
It makes sense.
00:04:34
Felicia Devine
um And this instructor is no longer there, so um I won't name drop.
00:04:36
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:04:37
Felicia Devine
But so I signed up for this class. I've gone to this class a gazillion times.
00:04:42
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:04:42
Felicia Devine
I've used or I've been with this instructor so many times. Like she was one of my favorite instructors.
00:04:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:04:47
Felicia Devine
um And I walk in the door and I go to click my name on the iPad and she goes, and this is in the class transition. So like people are coming out of the studio. It's like the 10 minute time frame.
00:04:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:04:57
Felicia Devine
So like people are coming out and people are going in. So that was very busy. And I go to click my name on the iPad and she's like, um how pregnant are you? And I was like, what? She's like, how many weeks are you? And I was like, oh, I'm like, I i honestly can't remember. It was like 30 something weeks.
00:05:15
Felicia Devine
I delivered at 37. So it couldn't have been like 36.
00:05:17
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:05:18
Felicia Devine
Like it was probably like 33 34.
00:05:22
Felicia Devine
And I told her, and like, I still like didn't have that big of a belly. I never got that big of a belly. So like, I was very capable of doing almost everything.
00:05:26
Natalie Richards
No.
00:05:29
Felicia Devine
I golfed 18 holes a week before I gave birth.
00:05:31
Natalie Richards
Yes, it's fine.
00:05:33
Felicia Devine
Like I was fine. And she made this huge stink and she goes, oh, you can't take this class. And I go, why not? She's like, oh, we have a policy. You can't take this class.
00:05:45
Felicia Devine
And I'm standing there and all these people are looking around it and like, you know, obviously like chicken necking.
00:05:50
Natalie Richards
Oh, the pregnant.
00:05:50
Felicia Devine
What's it called?
00:05:51
Natalie Richards
dig
00:05:52
Felicia Devine
Goose necking?
00:05:53
Natalie Richards
Oh, I know what you're saying.
00:05:54
Felicia Devine
What's it called?
00:05:55
Natalie Richards
Is that what it's called?
00:05:55
Felicia Devine
What's it When you like drive past an accident you're like turning your head.
00:05:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah, yeah. who
00:05:59
Felicia Devine
What's it called?
00:06:00
Natalie Richards
Oh my God, I don't know.
00:06:00
Felicia Devine
Chicken necking? No.
00:06:01
Natalie Richards
no
00:06:02
Felicia Devine
Turkey necking?
00:06:05
Felicia Devine
What's it called?
00:06:07
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:06:07
Felicia Devine
Goose necking.
00:06:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I guess.
00:06:08
Felicia Devine
No. Oh my gosh. Rubber necking.
00:06:13
Natalie Richards
Is that what it is?
00:06:14
Felicia Devine
It's called rubbernecking.
00:06:15
Natalie Richards
Oh, I can't. I don't know. My brain.
00:06:16
Felicia Devine
I just screamed.
00:06:16
Natalie Richards
No.
00:06:17
Felicia Devine
I hope I didn't blast anybody's ears off. Okay, so anyway, people are watching this interaction happen. And if you know anything about the, um the and not the industry, the franchise that we're speaking of, um it's very expensive to go there.
00:06:31
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:06:35
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:06:35
Felicia Devine
And then like, you don't wanna be gypped, right? Like it's A, hard to get at a spot and B, like, yes.
00:06:38
Natalie Richards
No, like if you're paying for your yeah, if you're paying for your monthly membership, like you're gonna go four times.
00:06:44
Felicia Devine
I'm going to go. And I like showed up and I was like, I come three times a week and I had the unlimited monthly membership.
00:06:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:06:50
Felicia Devine
So it was like, I was paying a lot of money.
00:06:52
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:06:53
Felicia Devine
And she's like, you can't be in this class. And I was like, I signed up for this class. I'm taking this class. So we were going back and forth. She's like, you can't take this class. And I was like, I'm taking the class. So I ended up taking the class and she made this huge, and she was an instructor.
00:07:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:07
Natalie Richards
She was the instructor?
00:07:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I'm like, I'm staying. I'm taking the class. um
00:07:12
Natalie Richards
At my own risk, thank you.
00:07:13
Felicia Devine
And yeah. And I was like, I'm fine doing things.
00:07:14
Natalie Richards
let's Let me sign something.
00:07:16
Felicia Devine
She was like so bent out of shape about it. And she's like, well, I'm putting it in your um account that you can't take these classes.
From Boxing to Chiropractic Care
00:07:24
Felicia Devine
And I was like, OK.
00:07:24
Natalie Richards
What?
00:07:26
Felicia Devine
So basically, she nixed me from taking.
00:07:29
Natalie Richards
Blocked you.
00:07:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So she said I couldn't take any Pilates classes after X amount of weeks. And I honestly was so mad. I don't even know what she said because
00:07:35
Natalie Richards
You wouldn't have gone back anyway.
00:07:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So then I went back like two or three classes postpartum because I had like paused my membership because of the whole like she kicked me out.
00:07:37
Natalie Richards
Whatever.
00:07:46
Natalie Richards
Mm
00:07:46
Felicia Devine
And I went back and I was just like, honestly, like I don't like the culture. I'm not really into like, I'm sorry, their instructors are not well trained.
00:07:50
Natalie Richards
hmm.
00:07:55
Felicia Devine
So...
00:07:55
Natalie Richards
They're, they're not.
00:07:57
Felicia Devine
No. And it's not like my mom takes like real Pilates like you do, like real Pilates.
00:07:57
Natalie Richards
They aren't.
00:08:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:08:03
Felicia Devine
And then this like corporate version, their instructors are not real instructors. And like they have certifications and stuff, but like they, it's not the same. I went to my mom's studio.
00:08:13
Natalie Richards
No. And truthfully, for that reason, I understand why they have a policy for pregnancy. Because most people really should not be doing that.
00:08:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah, probably. Yeah.
00:08:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah, and those instructors aren't actually managing the person correctly.
00:08:23
Natalie Richards
And I get it. They don't know how to right they don't know how to modify correctly for pregnancy.
00:08:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah,
00:08:31
Natalie Richards
i totally get that.
00:08:32
Felicia Devine
I get it.
00:08:32
Natalie Richards
Interesting.
00:08:33
Felicia Devine
However, to make a mockery of me in public, I wasn't gonna take it. i was gonna take that class.
00:08:39
Natalie Richards
Interesting.
00:08:39
Felicia Devine
I wasn't gonna take you harassing me, I was gonna take your class. So anyway, i just, that was, no.
00:08:43
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:08:46
Natalie Richards
Okay. So we won't be doing Pilates when I come and visit you. I misunderstood. i thought you were ah you were back in the studio Pilates.
00:08:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. In the studio. No, I would love to find a local studio that's not corporate.
00:08:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Are there any near you?
00:09:00
Felicia Devine
There are, but they're very limited um class selections. So it's like Wednesday at 10 a.m., Thursday at 2 p.m.
00:09:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:09
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, okay.
00:09:09
Natalie Richards
And it's do they have like a lot of reformers or is it just like a few?
00:09:13
Felicia Devine
No, it's like two to three reformers.
00:09:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that's the that's the hard part.
00:09:15
Felicia Devine
It's very private. Yeah, it's very private. Now, I don't know. I mean, I probably could take private lessons, but. I'm not there yet.
00:09:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah, no, it's OK.
00:09:25
Felicia Devine
I need to like, I need to build my base back up because I'm like weak.
00:09:26
Natalie Richards
OK.
00:09:30
Felicia Devine
I'm so weak. So weak. So anyway, um so we're not going to an in-person Pilates class, Natalie.
00:09:36
Natalie Richards
okay
00:09:39
Natalie Richards
Okay, but we can do something.
00:09:39
Felicia Devine
However, we can do something and maybe we can find another activity.
00:09:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:09:44
Felicia Devine
I was just driving this morning and saw adult kickboxing.
00:09:44
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:09:48
Natalie Richards
Have you ever done it?
00:09:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I used to be a boxer. Mm-hmm.
00:09:50
Natalie Richards
i did it in LA one time. Like I did like a kick, like a like a dark room, like like like neon lights, like music pumping, ah boxing in LA.
00:09:56
Felicia Devine
okay Oh, oh, like, like a soul cycle, but boxing. Oh, fun.
00:10:03
Natalie Richards
It was very fun. I was so sore.
00:10:05
Felicia Devine
Oh, my gosh.
00:10:06
Natalie Richards
it was like like, so sore.
00:10:08
Felicia Devine
Oh, I love that.
00:10:09
Natalie Richards
um But i don't I don't have the coordination to be a boxer.
00:10:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:14
Natalie Richards
Like that's not, but doesn't it
00:10:14
Felicia Devine
Right. Did you know that's my, did you know that's my origin story to chiropractic?
00:10:21
Natalie Richards
Is it really?
00:10:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:22
Natalie Richards
no I did not know that.
00:10:23
Felicia Devine
do you want to hear my testimony?
00:10:24
Natalie Richards
Yes, please.
00:10:27
Felicia Devine
And then we have to get Natalie's chiropractic testimony because her started at one day old.
00:10:31
Natalie Richards
Very far, very far, long ago.
00:10:32
Felicia Devine
um Okay. So I had seen a chiropractor in high school or middle school because I was playing softball and slid into home plate and like my legs went over my head, like backwards, like a scorpion.
00:10:45
Natalie Richards
Like backwards scorpion. Yeah.
00:10:46
Felicia Devine
Like I got like snapped in half.
00:10:46
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:10:48
Felicia Devine
Now the chiropractor I saw in middle school slash high school had like zero personality.
00:10:48
Natalie Richards
Ooh.
00:10:53
Felicia Devine
I don't recall a single chiropractic philosophy talk. What a subluxation was, what an adjustment was. Like I remember going and then putting a heating pad on me. And then like, I think there was some manual manipulation, but I honestly, like it was so unremarkable that I was like, I don't remember anything.
00:11:06
Natalie Richards
It was.
00:11:12
Felicia Devine
Like what?
00:11:12
Natalie Richards
and did it do anything? Did it help?
00:11:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah, probably.
00:11:15
Natalie Richards
Probably, but you don't remember.
00:11:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:16
Natalie Richards
Weird.
00:11:17
Felicia Devine
I don't remember a single thing about chiropractic. I remember the heating pad and like I so swore myself.
00:11:19
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay. Isn't that so sad?
00:11:23
Felicia Devine
Yes. And I swore myself to like, I will never have a heating pad in my office.
00:11:29
Natalie Richards
no
00:11:30
Felicia Devine
A wet heating. What are those things called again?
00:11:32
Natalie Richards
oh the hydrocolator.
00:11:33
Felicia Devine
The moisture pack with a hydroculator or whatever.
00:11:34
Natalie Richards
e Yeah, hydrocolator. Mm-mm.
00:11:37
Felicia Devine
I will never have that in my office.
00:11:39
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:11:41
Felicia Devine
Okay. So then fast forward, I'm in college and I'm going to the University of Arizona. i live on campus. I ride my bicycle to boxing.
00:11:51
Felicia Devine
I take private lessons. I am in classes. Like I'm training.
00:11:55
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:11:55
Felicia Devine
I'm like literally training as a boxer for fight night. My first ever fight night was, I don't even know.
00:12:01
Natalie Richards
Do you have pictures?
00:12:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah, probably.
00:12:04
Natalie Richards
I'll find them.
00:12:05
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:12:05
Natalie Richards
I need to see you with like a bloody mount.
00:12:06
Felicia Devine
I'll find them
00:12:08
Natalie Richards
No, I'm just kidding.
00:12:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No, no, no. Actually, would so we would have like sparring days where you would go and it was just like an open like sparring opportunity and coaches would be there and then you could spar people in your weight class or like people of your same caliber.
00:12:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:12:22
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:12:24
Felicia Devine
Well, no girls would ever go. so I always had to spar boys and I busted this guy's lip one time and I just will never forget that.
00:12:31
Natalie Richards
Oh, amazing.
00:12:32
Felicia Devine
So anyway, so um fight night comes. There's only one other girl. for, I forget what it was. It was like, I think there was only other one other girl for fight night.
00:12:43
Felicia Devine
It was like all these guys.
00:12:43
Natalie Richards
Was she massive?
00:12:45
Felicia Devine
No, she was petite, but she was buff, but it really didn't matter the weight class because it was like, she's a girl.
00:12:46
Natalie Richards
Oh, oh.
00:12:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that's it.
00:12:51
Felicia Devine
And she was like, i want to say she was like semi-pro amateur, like she was like experienced.
00:12:56
Natalie Richards
Oh goodness.
00:12:57
Felicia Devine
And this was my first ever like public fighting boxing match. Um, Okay. So we go toe to toe and like, I'm holding my own, whatever. We're like swinging in a, like it was intense.
00:13:10
Felicia Devine
And like all girl fights, they're way more physical than the guy fights.
00:13:10
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:13:13
Natalie Richards
Did you do well?
00:13:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:13:15
Natalie Richards
You had like held your own.
00:13:15
Felicia Devine
We like, we won fight of the night.
00:13:17
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh, Felicia.
00:13:19
Felicia Devine
hu Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:20
Natalie Richards
I've never heard this.
00:13:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So during that, I got
00:13:23
Natalie Richards
i didn don't even know if I knew that you were a boxer.
00:13:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I got pummeled in the face, like straight up sucker punch.
00:13:27
Natalie Richards
oh
00:13:30
Felicia Devine
Like she jabbed me pretty much right in the mouth.
00:13:32
Natalie Richards
Oh, multiple times or just like one big one?
00:13:33
Felicia Devine
Now I, um I want to say I got like one big face punch because then i got i got like a whiplash injury.
00:13:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:13:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:13:43
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:13:43
Felicia Devine
So I got whiplash and I got a concussion.
00:13:46
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:13:46
Felicia Devine
Um, so anyway, so the next few days i like literally would wake up in the morning to go to class and I would like shower and then I would have to take a nap before I could like finish getting ready.
00:13:57
Natalie Richards
Because you were so just done.
00:13:58
Felicia Devine
I couldn't spell, I couldn't spell my dad's name.
00:14:01
Natalie Richards
No.
00:14:02
Felicia Devine
My mom took me to urgent care or something like that to get my, like, I literally got a CT scan.
00:14:08
Natalie Richards
Whoa.
00:14:08
Felicia Devine
And she was like, oh, um who's the primary on the insurance? And she's like, oh, can you spell that for me? And I was like, I literally couldn't spell. So my mom was like, okay, you're coming to my chiropractor.
00:14:20
Felicia Devine
So she took me to Dr. Jeff. And Dr. Jeff, like literally, I remember it so vividly, his explanation of chiropractic, his why, his oh, you need to try this and this is going to help you recover and you need fish oil.
00:14:34
Felicia Devine
And like, he literally was like all encompassing and it was like so philosophy based. And my mom would come pick me up from campus and take me and get adjusted.
00:14:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:43
Felicia Devine
And like, he, he pretty much rehabbed me and then he was like, no more boxing. So I only really, my debut was my, my closing statement.
00:14:48
Natalie Richards
Wow. Wow. Oh boy, Jean is crying and I do not know i
00:14:56
Felicia Devine
Oh no.
00:14:59
Natalie Richards
Probably a wrestling injury.
00:15:01
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:15:03
Natalie Richards
we're talking about boxing.
00:15:04
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:15:05
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:15:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:06
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. Okay.
00:15:07
Felicia Devine
So i had one fight night and it was over.
00:15:07
Natalie Richards
So.
00:15:09
Felicia Devine
i had to hang up the gloves.
00:15:10
Natalie Richards
Oh, cause you can't do that again.
00:15:11
Felicia Devine
my Yeah, because Dr. Jeff was like, yeah, that's not for you.
00:15:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:14
Felicia Devine
And I was like, darn it. It was so fun. I loved boxing. um
00:15:17
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:15:18
Felicia Devine
But then...
00:15:18
Natalie Richards
but we that A kickboxing class would be fun.
00:15:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. I think I would like to get back into boxing. I follow this one girl on Instagram. Her name is like Christina. um And she, I don't think her whole personality is that she's a boxer, but sometimes she posts boxing videos and I'm like, oh, I would love to get back into that.
00:15:37
Natalie Richards
That would be so fun.
00:15:37
Felicia Devine
um
00:15:38
Natalie Richards
So Dr.
00:15:38
Felicia Devine
So yeah.
00:15:39
Natalie Richards
Jeff was, cause remember you talking about Dr. Jeff and he was like the greatest and that was like really what got you interested.
00:15:43
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:15:47
Felicia Devine
He and a ah few of his friends actually started the business center at Palmer.
00:15:51
Natalie Richards
That's right.
00:15:52
Felicia Devine
They founded the business center and they're only like not that much older than us.
00:15:52
Natalie Richards
That's right. That's right. That's right. Yes. That's right. Not that, no. So that wasn't around for that long.
00:15:59
Felicia Devine
No, no. And he got the philosophy award at graduation.
00:16:02
Natalie Richards
Very cool. Very cool.
00:16:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah, so Dr. Jeff um actually was the one that got me into chiropractic, but it was because I was a boxer that I got a concussion and he rehabbed me from it.
00:16:10
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:16:13
Natalie Richards
Very cool.
00:16:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah, so what's your origin story? I hope it's not as dramatic as mine.
00:16:20
Natalie Richards
It's not that not dramatic. It was my origin story.
00:16:22
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:16:24
Natalie Richards
i was adjusted for the first time when I was like, I think two weeks old. i don't even know.
00:16:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:28
Natalie Richards
Like it was like it was so unusual when we were talking to all of our friends at school.
00:16:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:34
Natalie Richards
And it was like, oh, who, like, when was the first time you got adjusted? I was the only person who got adjusted as an infant that, whose parents, whose parents weren't chiropractors.
00:16:42
Felicia Devine
Well, I think Mariah did. Oh, oh, I see what you're saying. I'm like, no, Mariah did, but Mariah's dad was a chiropractor.
00:16:47
Natalie Richards
They did. They did. Yeah. i Like Colton's dad was a chiropractor.
00:16:49
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:16:50
Natalie Richards
Who else was a chiropractor? Colton and Mariah.
00:16:52
Felicia Devine
Mariah, Colton, Cassie.
00:16:52
Natalie Richards
That was it, right? Cassie. Yeah.
00:16:56
Felicia Devine
um
00:16:56
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:16:58
Felicia Devine
I don't remember who else.
00:17:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I don't remember either.
00:17:00
Felicia Devine
That's probably it.
00:17:01
Natalie Richards
I think that might be it. So,
00:17:02
Felicia Devine
I can't wait for Jean and Giuseppe to be in the same class at Palmer.
00:17:04
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:17:05
Felicia Devine
but
00:17:05
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. Can you imagine? oh my gosh.
00:17:07
Felicia Devine
It'd be roommates.
00:17:08
Natalie Richards
That would be so cute. I can't even handle it.
00:17:10
Felicia Devine
I know. i know.
Natalie's Birth Story and Chiropractic for Horses
00:17:12
Natalie Richards
Oh, that would be adorable. So like, I feel very fortunate to be one of like, even in a chiropractic school of our friend group, like one of the only people to be adjusted like their whole life.
00:17:13
Felicia Devine
guess.
00:17:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:19
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:17:23
Felicia Devine
That early. Mm-hmm.
00:17:25
Natalie Richards
It's amazing. So,
00:17:27
Felicia Devine
What was your birth story?
00:17:28
Natalie Richards
um
00:17:29
Felicia Devine
Or like like generically, like were you born at home?
00:17:33
Natalie Richards
My mom, no, I was born in a hospital. I think my mom my mom always told me that she wanted to have a home birth, but like she was too, she just like couldn't quite do it.
00:17:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah. She's too controlling.
00:17:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I think maybe. She just was like not, she told me she wasn't brave enough or something of something along those lines.
00:17:50
Felicia Devine
Oh, Anita.
00:17:50
Natalie Richards
Like she could, she just didn't feel like she could, you know?
00:17:53
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah.
00:17:53
Natalie Richards
And it's like, she probably would have and would have done perfectly fine.
00:17:56
Felicia Devine
I bet you it's because she probably wouldn't be able to like turn her brain off about things that she wanted to do around the house.
00:18:00
Natalie Richards
Probably, probably. it's
00:18:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah. She'd be like, oh, John, get the baseboard.
00:18:06
Natalie Richards
i think it was more like she I don't think she would have like been able to tell the people around her that, yes, I'm having a home birth. I think it just, she's, she was into like the, definitely more into like, what does that look like?
00:18:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Like it was like socially not. Mm hmm.
00:18:22
Natalie Richards
You know, I think, I think if I had to get in her brain, that was probably more of what it was.
00:18:23
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah. yeah Okay.
00:18:28
Natalie Richards
Um, so my birth was like, I think I was OP. p So I was posterior for a long time. So my mom had back labor for a long time.
00:18:36
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:18:40
Natalie Richards
I had the stupid electrodes in my head because my mom remembers that she finally, she was in labor for a long time. She finally had this nurse that like got her into a different position was like, all right, we're getting this baby out.
00:18:57
Natalie Richards
I think she said she went through three nurses. so I think she had a really long labor with me.
00:19:01
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. Tell me about these electrodes though.
00:19:02
Natalie Richards
I don't even, it's like those, those like little things that screw into the top of a baby's head. It's like they'll, they do that still.
00:19:09
Felicia Devine
During labor?
00:19:10
Natalie Richards
Yeah, they do that still. They're like, I forget what they even monitor. They monitor brain activity or they monitor like something, but it's like this little like metal thing that like literally screws into the top of a baby's head.
00:19:17
Felicia Devine
Distress?
00:19:23
Felicia Devine
Natalie?
00:19:25
Natalie Richards
that's This happens all the time. i don't know if people know this.
00:19:28
Felicia Devine
I didn't know this.
00:19:30
Natalie Richards
If there's ever wires sticking out of a mother's vagina, that's happening.
00:19:37
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:19:37
Natalie Richards
it's it's and You should look it up. It's horrific. It's like a metal little thing in it.
00:19:40
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:19:42
Natalie Richards
like
00:19:43
Felicia Devine
I mean, I thought the suction cups in the...
00:19:43
Natalie Richards
I'm probably making it sound, I know.
00:19:45
Felicia Devine
the
00:19:46
Natalie Richards
I'm probably making it sound worse than it is. But it's it goes into this it goes into the scalp.
00:19:48
Felicia Devine
that's pretty bad.
00:19:52
Natalie Richards
So I had those on and she remembers that she saw the wires move, like turn. And she goes, oh, she turned.
00:19:58
Felicia Devine
Wow. Wow.
00:20:00
Natalie Richards
So that's the only thing I remember about the story. and then i And then I was born.
00:20:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Wow.
00:20:07
Natalie Richards
And I was breastfed for three years. I don't even know. Two and a half, three years, something like that.
00:20:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:20:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that was it.
00:20:13
Felicia Devine
And well-adjusted. You got adjusted early.
00:20:14
Natalie Richards
And well-adjusted.
00:20:15
Felicia Devine
Now, your chiropractor, was he family chiropractor, like, your whole growing up?
00:20:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah, so thank goodness. He was... Yep. He was my parents. My dad, I think, is actually who started going first because he had all kinds of all kinds of injuries.
00:20:24
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:20:26
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:20:27
Natalie Richards
So he started going to this guy first. Then my mom, I think most of my family members, honestly, like my aunts and uncles, all of that they went to him.
00:20:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:20:37
Natalie Richards
um I went to him probably for the first like few years, maybe like four or five years of my life to the point that I have like pictures of but me getting adjusted. Did you ever see the picture in my office?
00:20:46
Felicia Devine
ah Yeah, at your grand opening.
00:20:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So.
00:20:50
Felicia Devine
Did he come to your grand opening?
00:20:51
Natalie Richards
He did. Yeah, he was there.
00:20:52
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:20:53
Natalie Richards
um But he ended up retiring and selling his practice to his associate, who then I saw the rest of my life. And um ah he went to be a racehorse chiropractor or a horse, like ah a horse chiropractor, not a race.
00:21:00
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:21:05
Felicia Devine
Whoa. Yeah.
00:21:07
Natalie Richards
But he would go around to like barns and adjust like all the racehorses in these barns. So cool.
00:21:13
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:21:14
Natalie Richards
So cool. And I like.
00:21:15
Felicia Devine
Horse chiropractic is so cool.
00:21:17
Natalie Richards
It's so fascinating.
00:21:18
Felicia Devine
Also, so much money.
00:21:20
Natalie Richards
So much money. I've got i've gone down the hole the rabbit hole of this horse stuff.
00:21:21
Felicia Devine
my gosh. Have you? But you're allergic to horses.
00:21:25
Natalie Richards
I know, but i I was doing the emotion code on me the other day.
00:21:30
Felicia Devine
You're like, can I clear this allergy?
00:21:31
Natalie Richards
No, I literally was trying to. i was trying to, but then I went to Banff and then I nearly died from being behind a horse.
00:21:34
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:21:39
Natalie Richards
was
00:21:39
Felicia Devine
But like, if you didn't do that, would you have died actually? Maybe. So you might've done some help.
00:21:43
Natalie Richards
Maybe, maybe, maybe because I hit a moment.
00:21:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:46
Natalie Richards
I had a point. halfway through the the sleigh ride and I was like, i in about five minutes I could stop breathing.
00:21:56
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:21:56
Natalie Richards
I had that thought. And then couple minutes, no, I didn't because I just am kind of like, I'm very in my head.
00:21:58
Felicia Devine
Did you get like worked up?
00:22:03
Natalie Richards
do there's no outward There's no outward display of panic whatsoever with me, zip zero.
00:22:03
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:22:06
Felicia Devine
Right. No, no, no, no. Probably no one knew.
00:22:11
Natalie Richards
Kyle looked at me at the end and he goes, what's wrong? Only because I had like tears streaming down face.
00:22:15
Felicia Devine
You're like, I didn't mention anything. well
00:22:19
Felicia Devine
Kyle's enjoying the view and he looks over at you an hour in and he's like, what's wrong with you?
00:22:22
Natalie Richards
Meanwhile, I literally am half dead. And I thought I really did at one point. I said in five minutes, I think this might be a bad thing. But then after that, like my body was like, okay, it's going to be fine. And then I just got really congested in the nose. It was okay.
00:22:39
Felicia Devine
Natalie?
00:22:39
Natalie Richards
So maybe I would have died. i don't know. So we're going to keep working on it.
00:22:42
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:22:42
Natalie Richards
And I'm going to do exposure therapy.
00:22:43
Felicia Devine
So maybe, are you?
00:22:44
Natalie Richards
And eventually you may see me being a ah horse chiropractor. We'll see.
Full Moon Effects on Children?
00:22:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No, I think you would be so good at it.
00:22:50
Natalie Richards
We'll see.
00:22:51
Felicia Devine
You could be a prenatal horse chiropractor.
00:22:55
Natalie Richards
For a breeding farm.
00:22:56
Felicia Devine
Yes. And only take care of prenatal prenatal horses.
00:22:57
Natalie Richards
Can even handle it?
00:23:01
Felicia Devine
I'm sure there's terminology for this and I'm botching it. So if you're a horse girly, don't come for me. But like you could do like pregnancy adjustments on horses and then newborn adjustments.
00:23:11
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:23:12
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:23:12
Natalie Richards
Yes. I'm telling you.
00:23:14
Felicia Devine
Okay, that that horse video, were we're continuing the horses real quick.
00:23:15
Natalie Richards
I'm manifesting.
00:23:18
Felicia Devine
That horse video you sent me this week of the horse being squeezed to restart its suckle reflex.
00:23:22
Natalie Richards
Yes. How fascinating. it's like, duh.
00:23:25
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:23:25
Natalie Richards
Because I can't remember what happened in the horse's birth itself, but I don't, I think it was quick.
00:23:30
Felicia Devine
I think it was precipitous.
00:23:30
Natalie Richards
It was a tiny little, a tiny little thing. It was really fast labor. And it didn't quite get that, that like midpoint squeeze that babies need, all babies need.
00:23:37
Felicia Devine
Squeeze.
00:23:41
Felicia Devine
All babies need.
00:23:42
Natalie Richards
Just FYI.
00:23:43
Felicia Devine
You need to be squeezed as a baby. you need You need to at least if you, I've always wanted to do this. I've always wanted to come up with a device that C-section babies could be put through like a tunnel.
00:23:53
Natalie Richards
Yes. Well, that's essentially what this, what they were doing with these babies.
00:23:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:23:58
Natalie Richards
And maybe it is, we just need to like squeeze their abdomen a little bit and just, look I don't know, but it helped this horse.
00:24:00
Felicia Devine
Squeeze these babies for a while. Yeah.
00:24:05
Natalie Richards
popped right back up and was nursing within two minutes.
00:24:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:08
Natalie Richards
I mean, it's fascinating.
00:24:08
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:24:10
Natalie Richards
So they basically took this like rope, I guess, and did this.
00:24:10
Felicia Devine
yeah Rope. Which, were like, we wouldn't do on a human baby.
00:24:15
Natalie Richards
No, but gets me thinking.
00:24:15
Felicia Devine
But.
00:24:20
Felicia Devine
What kind of device could we make?
00:24:22
Natalie Richards
And they tie this rope around the abdomen of the horse and they just like gently squeeze and hold.
00:24:27
Felicia Devine
Squeeze it. Mm-hmm.
00:24:28
Natalie Richards
And it's just not like you're not squeezing the crap out of it, but it's definitely just enough of a prolonged squeeze.
00:24:31
Felicia Devine
No. It's giving appropriate, yeah.
00:24:36
Natalie Richards
And then that baby was a-okay within a couple minutes.
00:24:36
Felicia Devine
Proprioceptive feedback.
00:24:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:41
Natalie Richards
It was crazy.
00:24:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay.
00:24:43
Natalie Richards
So I just, I just like, my brain gets, gets going when I watch these, these horses being born and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm going to link this girl's Instagram page at the bottom of the show notes because people need to watch this stuff.
00:24:43
Felicia Devine
We're going to manifest that for you.
00:24:50
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:24:55
Felicia Devine
Instagram. The show notes. Yeah.
00:24:59
Natalie Richards
It's fascinating.
00:24:59
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:25:01
Natalie Richards
Fascinating.
00:25:01
Felicia Devine
Yes. Fascinating.
00:25:02
Natalie Richards
i'm gonna keep I was going to send you another one today and I forgot what it was.
00:25:06
Felicia Devine
You're like, I'm trying to limit how many I send you on a weekly basis.
00:25:08
Natalie Richards
Because it's insane. Anyway, so I'm manifesting eventually getting over my horse allergy to then be able to be a horse chiropractor.
00:25:17
Felicia Devine
I love it. Okay, keep working on it.
00:25:19
Natalie Richards
So... I will. um So that's my origin story. like My chiropractor now is is a horse chiropractor, and I think that is the coolest thing ever.
00:25:26
Felicia Devine
Kind of dramatic. No, I'm just kidding.
00:25:32
Felicia Devine
That is so cool.
00:25:33
Natalie Richards
But I was adjusted every two weeks my entire life.
00:25:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:25:38
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:25:39
Natalie Richards
Only up until I think the least I was ever adjusted was like during school probably, which ironic because we're...
00:25:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah, because we were botching each other. You're getting the opposite of adjusted in school.
00:25:50
Natalie Richards
The opposite of adjusted. And then probably the most unfortunate time was like shortly postpartum.
00:25:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:25:58
Natalie Richards
That's probably why you have so many problems currently that I'm now figuring out.
00:25:59
Felicia Devine
Oh. Mm-hmm.
00:26:03
Natalie Richards
But there was a year, there's probably a year, a year and a half that I didn't get adjusted at all.
00:26:03
Felicia Devine
Because you didn't have anybody close.
00:26:08
Natalie Richards
Cause it was right when Dr. Wallace retired.
00:26:10
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:26:10
Natalie Richards
So then I was like, what do I do?
00:26:12
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:12
Natalie Richards
I had a few post postpartum adjustments and then he retired.
00:26:16
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:17
Natalie Richards
And that was so sad because I was i was going down there postpartum every two weeks, too.
00:26:18
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Oh, I know.
00:26:23
Felicia Devine
Were you witching?
00:26:24
Natalie Richards
Mm hmm.
00:26:25
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:26:25
Natalie Richards
That was ridiculous. yeah
00:26:28
Felicia Devine
That was ridiculous.
00:26:30
Natalie Richards
Three hours in a car with a four week old.
00:26:30
Felicia Devine
Talk about, talk about dramatic.
00:26:32
Natalie Richards
Interesting. Psychotic.
00:26:36
Felicia Devine
That's Jean's origin story.
00:26:38
Natalie Richards
For real. Yeah.
00:26:39
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. No, I, don't know. I mean, you haven't really had, you do have a chiropractor now, but she's still what? 45 minutes away? Hour?
00:26:50
Natalie Richards
An hour, hour and five.
00:26:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:26:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:52
Natalie Richards
But it's been great. I've been loving my little routine. we go to Pilates and then I go, and I do, it I go to Pilates at eight.
00:26:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Whole foods.
00:26:59
Natalie Richards
like zoom out of the house really early before me, but it wakes up.
00:27:03
Felicia Devine
You're like, see ya. Yeah.
00:27:04
Natalie Richards
Bye. I'm doing my routine. Go to, go to Pilates, go to, um Elgin and then I go to Whole Foods and then I come home and it's like my four or five hour little jaunt.
00:27:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:15
Felicia Devine
Journey. What days do you get to do that?
00:27:16
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Every other Friday. Every
00:27:20
Felicia Devine
Once a quarter.
Parenting and Sleep Challenges
00:27:23
Natalie Richards
two weeks. I was trying to do every week for a little while just because I needed it.
00:27:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. That's a lot.
00:27:30
Natalie Richards
But now I feel like I'm okay. I'm okay with every couple.
00:27:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:34
Natalie Richards
I could probably get adjusted every two days, to be completely honest.
00:27:37
Felicia Devine
Honestly, I try and get adjusted every week to every two weeks.
00:27:40
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:40
Felicia Devine
um I check ah ah check Giuseppe every week to two weeks easily.
00:27:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:46
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:27:46
Natalie Richards
Gene, about every like couple weeks, I think, is when he needs it.
00:27:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:49
Natalie Richards
I'll start to like notice with his behavior a little bit.
00:27:49
Felicia Devine
And like,
00:27:52
Natalie Richards
Or I'm like, oh, we do need to die.
00:27:53
Felicia Devine
speaking of, tell us about the moon.
00:27:56
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:57
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:27:58
Natalie Richards
Full moon is coming, everybody. FYI.
00:28:00
Felicia Devine
Talking about Jean's behavior. The full moon's on its way.
00:28:04
Natalie Richards
We were outside playing the other day because it was such a nice day.
00:28:04
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:28:08
Natalie Richards
And everybody looks up at the sky and is like, oh, the moon. And I go, oh, it's almost parasite time.
00:28:13
Felicia Devine
Oh, you're like, no.
00:28:17
Natalie Richards
Not again. so gene was the past like couple days, i usually notice four to five days leading up to the full moon. And we are now, i think three days out from when the full moon is going to be.
00:28:32
Felicia Devine
So it will probably be the day this airs.
00:28:32
Natalie Richards
I usually, hu yeah it'll be the day, I think the day before. ah usually start noticing not sleep disturbances yet, but sometimes like weird waking times.
00:28:46
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:28:46
Natalie Richards
for him. And then ah definitely his poop starts to change a little bit. it gets a little runnier, i would say. And then, so the last few days I've started giving him his herbs, just to like his herbs and his homeopathy for parasites.
00:29:04
Natalie Richards
Cause I've figured out if I do that preemptively, like five, days like seven days leading up to the full moon,
00:29:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:29:07
Felicia Devine
Okay. Mm-hmm.
00:29:11
Natalie Richards
It usually helps those sleep disturbances like that night before the full moon.
00:29:15
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:29:16
Natalie Richards
Usually for him, he gets a really bad night, like the night before the full moon where he's up.
00:29:22
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:29:22
Natalie Richards
My stomach hurts. My leg hurts. Can you like, like all of it.
00:29:26
Felicia Devine
i said
00:29:26
Natalie Richards
And there's nothing that can be done except for shove homeopathy in his mouth and pretend to pull on his leg to adjust it.
00:29:28
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:29:32
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:29:35
Felicia Devine
I'm adjusting you. I'm adjusting you.
00:29:36
Natalie Richards
He's so funny. He goes, mama, can you pull my leg? you pull in and I pull it a little bit. He goes, oh, thank goodness. That's better.
00:29:44
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:29:45
Natalie Richards
It's so much better. I'm like, okay. So today, today I gave him secretly his little herbal, herbal tinctures.
00:29:54
Felicia Devine
What do you put it in? Just like his water?
00:29:56
Natalie Richards
Kombucha, because it's the one thing I know he'll drink because he's obsessed with it.
00:29:57
Felicia Devine
Oh. Drink. Okay. see and Honestly, you probably could drop any herb in there and you would never know.
00:30:02
Natalie Richards
But honestly, No, you'd have no idea. Or like if I had to, I'd use juice or something like that. I'd do it in whatever, whatever I possibly can.
00:30:10
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:30:11
Natalie Richards
So he's like, so now I've given him probably like three doses of this like tincture.
00:30:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:16
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:30:18
Natalie Richards
And then i gave him probably two or three days of the homeopathy one too, which is supposed to really just like expel things like pinworms and like all that stuff, which freaks me out.
00:30:28
Felicia Devine
oh
00:30:32
Natalie Richards
I've never seen one. in his poop and I'm just like waiting for the day that that's going happen.
00:30:35
Felicia Devine
Nervous for it. Yeah.
00:30:37
Natalie Richards
So today he's laying on the couch and he had just pooped, I think.
00:30:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:43
Natalie Richards
And he's laying on the couch. He goes, mama, mama, there's something in my butt. And i go not today, not today.
00:30:55
Felicia Devine
No.
00:30:55
Natalie Richards
I can't, I can't, I can't do it. Mama, come help. There's something in my butt.
00:31:03
Felicia Devine
Gene, what was in his butt?
00:31:05
Natalie Richards
graze be by the time I got everything together and I opened that up, his diaper, and there was nothing there. Thank goodness. But what would I have done if there was, it was probably a pin word, more than likely, more than likely.
00:31:16
Felicia Devine
It was probably sticking out and then it came back in.
00:31:20
Natalie Richards
He felt it. And I, oh
00:31:24
Felicia Devine
Natalie, it's going to come out next time he poops.
00:31:26
Natalie Richards
you know I know, know.
00:31:28
Felicia Devine
Wait, have you heard where you put tape on his butt?
00:31:31
Natalie Richards
yes
00:31:32
Felicia Devine
Why are we whispering?
00:31:33
Natalie Richards
I don't know because I can't.
00:31:34
Felicia Devine
I'm whispering because I'm so nervous.
00:31:34
Natalie Richards
I like, it makes me so nervous. I can't, I don't know what I would do.
00:31:36
Felicia Devine
ah
00:31:38
Natalie Richards
I want it to happen.
00:31:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah, what do you do?
00:31:40
Natalie Richards
I want those suckers to get the heck out.
00:31:43
Felicia Devine
Oh, no.
00:31:43
Natalie Richards
But I'm like, oh no, i don't want it that bad.
00:31:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah. oh
00:31:50
Natalie Richards
So anyway, so we'll see.
00:31:50
Felicia Devine
jeepers. Okay.
00:31:52
Natalie Richards
We'll see what happens the next few days because
00:31:52
Felicia Devine
We'll see. yeah So do you continue giving him the tinctures until the boom full moon hits?
00:31:56
Natalie Richards
i probably but i probably will, even though that makes me freaked out.
00:31:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Uh-huh.
00:32:01
Natalie Richards
But it's worth not having to like wake up all night before the full moon.
00:32:06
Felicia Devine
You'd think it's a full moon every night in Giuseppe's room.
00:32:08
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:32:10
Felicia Devine
Homie, what in the world? 21 months.
00:32:12
Natalie Richards
How old is he now?
00:32:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:32:19
Felicia Devine
Old enough.
00:32:20
Natalie Richards
hello yeah
00:32:21
Felicia Devine
Honestly, though, you like, i can't complain because he is like the most joyous child.
00:32:29
Natalie Richards
Exactly. Yep.
00:32:30
Felicia Devine
He's quite literally advanced in every single department, motor, speech, like, I can't complain.
00:32:33
Natalie Richards
Yep. That's how Gene was too. Like there was no, and he didn't sleep well. He really just didn't sleep well.
00:32:40
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. I'm like, he's high-functioning and he doesn't need as much sleep. I need more sleep.
00:32:45
Natalie Richards
okay
00:32:45
Felicia Devine
I'm low-functioning. Okay? Giuseppe, who's your mother? Low-functioning.
00:32:49
Natalie Richards
okay
00:32:50
Felicia Devine
But, yeah, I mean, it's – and it's not –
00:32:53
Natalie Richards
I think that's okay though too, that you just like realize that it's okay to be low functioning for a little bit.
00:32:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And like when he wakes up, I go in, I nurse him, I put him back down. I go in.
00:33:02
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:33:02
Felicia Devine
Like it's not this whole hour long ordeal and production every single time.
00:33:04
Natalie Richards
He's not up for a long time. Yeah.
00:33:07
Felicia Devine
Like sometimes it is. um That's very rare and like very niche.
00:33:12
Natalie Richards
And before the full moon, I'm pretty sure is every time it happens.
00:33:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So, yeah, I'm going to kind of play that out.
00:33:17
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:33:17
Felicia Devine
um Thank God that didn't happen any sooner because Dan's been gone since Wednesday and I've been solo with him.
00:33:23
Natalie Richards
Mm.
00:33:25
Felicia Devine
And, like, Dan can't help in the middle of the night anyway.
00:33:25
Natalie Richards
Oh, my. Mm-mm.
00:33:27
Felicia Devine
Anytime Dan goes in he's like, Mommy! Like, screaming bloody murder for me.
00:33:30
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:33:32
Felicia Devine
So it wouldn't have helped anyway.
00:33:32
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's how Gina is too. Still to this day, Kyle will go in there and he ah your job is never done.
00:33:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay. Interesting.
00:33:38
Felicia Devine
No.
00:33:38
Natalie Richards
He can't put him to sleep. Like I am the sole, sole bedtime person.
00:33:41
Felicia Devine
Nope. Mm-hmm.
00:33:45
Felicia Devine
I do naps.
00:33:45
Natalie Richards
Can't put him to sleep.
00:33:46
Felicia Devine
I do bedtime.
00:33:47
Natalie Richards
Cannot wake up with him. if i am He knows when I'm in the house.
00:33:50
Felicia Devine
it
00:33:51
Natalie Richards
And if I'm in the house and and Kyle goes in there to wait to like get him something in the morning when he wakes up, he's like, where's mom?
00:33:56
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:33:59
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:33:59
Natalie Richards
Where's mom? Dad, go get mom. He's a little asshole about it too.
00:34:05
Felicia Devine
I can hear Steppy on the monitor when he wakes up in the morning. He's like, mommy. And like, mommy's trying to
Grocery Store and Meat Selection
00:34:11
Felicia Devine
sleep.
00:34:11
Natalie Richards
Please just be quiet.
00:34:15
Felicia Devine
So he woke up this morning. Homie sleeps till like 8 a.m. m Usually.
00:34:19
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:34:21
Felicia Devine
7.45, 8 o'clock.
00:34:21
Natalie Richards
It's amazing.
00:34:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah, he's a good sleeper in the morning.
00:34:23
Natalie Richards
That's our schedule too. Amazing.
00:34:25
Felicia Devine
However, this morning... He wakes up at 628 or something like so early. And, and sometimes if he wakes up like in the six o'clock range, he will kind of like shush himself to sleep.
00:34:36
Natalie Richards
Try to go back to sleep.
00:34:37
Felicia Devine
Like he'll kind of like, my remember around and then he'll fall back asleep. But this morning he continued being like, mommy, but and he was like upset about it. And I was like, it's okay. So I go up to like sneak in there, nurse him, pretend it's, I sometimes pretend it's the middle of the night.
00:34:52
Natalie Richards
Pretend it's nighttime.
00:34:52
Felicia Devine
It could be It could be 6.55 in the morning.
00:34:53
Natalie Richards
Yes, I do too. Yeah. no
00:34:55
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, oh, it's middle the night. Go back to sleep. And that usually works. I walk in his room and he goes, oopsie. And I go, what's wrong, Seppy?
00:35:06
Felicia Devine
He goes, poopy. And I'm like, oh, did you have an accident? He goes, poopy. And I'm like, what's going on? So I was thinking like he had pooped his diaper.
00:35:15
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:35:16
Felicia Devine
But I go over there and he goes, he points at the door and he goes, poop. And I'm like, oh, you have to go? And he was like, yeah.
00:35:23
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:35:23
Felicia Devine
And I zip him out of his sleep sack and I sprint into the bathroom.
00:35:27
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:35:28
Felicia Devine
I carry him and he goes on the potty. But he like, he was like telling me, he was like, mom, I have to go to the bot. Like I have to go to the bathroom.
00:35:33
Natalie Richards
wow yeah like mom oh my gosh
00:35:34
Felicia Devine
Come get me. So yeah, so I was like, okay, a good thing I listened. But then like after he pooped, he like was wide awake.
00:35:44
Natalie Richards
yeah there's no way that yeah they just hate those days oh gosh no for him for sure I think yes there's no other way to be
00:35:44
Felicia Devine
So there was no going back. So we've been up since 630 and I'm like, I know. i love an eight o'clock wake up for him. You know, it gives me some time. Yeah.
00:35:57
Felicia Devine
and So I don't know. and it was like mushy. I don't know if that's like leading up to the full moon.
00:36:02
Natalie Richards
Maybe it's maybe a little, a little, yeah, it could.
00:36:04
Felicia Devine
I don't know. We also might be getting molars. We also like,
00:36:07
Natalie Richards
Well, that's the thing. What is it?
00:36:10
Felicia Devine
what is it?
00:36:10
Natalie Richards
but
00:36:10
Felicia Devine
And it's usually, um, unbeknownst to me until it's over.
00:36:15
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:36:15
Felicia Devine
You know, was it teething?
00:36:16
Natalie Richards
And then you're like, oh, yeah, it's probably that.
00:36:16
Felicia Devine
Oh, I don't know. Until the tooth comes through.
00:36:18
Natalie Richards
Right. That's kind of like the whole first few years child's life.
00:36:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:36:24
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:36:25
Felicia Devine
Everything's guessing. We, speaking of guessing.
00:36:28
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:36:29
Felicia Devine
So we went to the grocery store this morning and Dan usually grocery shops. Okay.
00:36:33
Natalie Richards
right.
00:36:33
Felicia Devine
I'll go occasionally. So I've been to the grocery store. I love the grocery store that I like to go to, but Dan does the shopping and I just do that. Oh, look around. Okay. So I was standing at the meat section of whole, like our Kimberton whole foods. And I'm like looking at all these steaks and I'm like, I couldn't, I felt like I was looking at an alphabet in a different language.
00:36:58
Felicia Devine
I couldn't decipher what I was looking at. I was like, do I have a concussion? Like I literally was like confused.
00:37:05
Natalie Richards
about like what they were.
00:37:05
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, and then I'm like also overstimulated because Giuseppe wouldn't sit in the cart. And so he's like, so I'm holding him.
00:37:11
Natalie Richards
oh
00:37:14
Natalie Richards
It's so funny.
00:37:14
Felicia Devine
What's happening? him
00:37:14
Natalie Richards
Did you hear that you hear that? He's been doing this thing where he he like tiptoes to his snack cabinet. So like, I don't know that he's coming except for the fact that i know that he's coming.
00:37:25
Felicia Devine
Oh. And then he crashes it Yeah.
00:37:30
Natalie Richards
And he like thinks it's a funny joke with Kyle. So he's like I'm going to go tiptoe and she's not going to see me. And he goes around the long way.
00:37:37
Felicia Devine
You saw him.
00:37:39
Natalie Richards
He's literally right in front of me. you like, but yeah, i probably.
00:37:42
Felicia Devine
Does he know you saw him?
00:37:44
Natalie Richards
And then he makes a huge noise.
00:37:45
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:37:46
Natalie Richards
And then I'm like, oh, Jean, what are you?
00:37:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah. All the snacks fall out.
00:37:49
Natalie Richards
What are you doing? And he's like giggling. hey And then he goes around the long way again and tiptoes and like runs really fast past the door.
00:37:55
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:37:58
Natalie Richards
He's so funny.
00:37:59
Felicia Devine
He's like, no one saw that.
00:38:01
Natalie Richards
Okay. So you were perplexed by the meat cabinet.
00:38:03
Felicia Devine
Okay. So I'm standing at this meat department and I'm holding Giuseppe and he doesn't want to sit in the cart. So I'm like, I'm like borderline overstimulated and I'm reading labels that I have, it could have been in a different language. I'm looking at these labels and looking at the meat and I'm like, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it's for. It could be for...
00:38:24
Felicia Devine
cooking in a slow cooker, it could be for, i like literally, I'm like, I'm so confused. I just want a nice tender steak.
00:38:30
Natalie Richards
Oh
00:38:30
Felicia Devine
I can grill. I'm not grilling. Dan's going to grill it. Okay.
00:38:33
Natalie Richards
That Dan will grow. Sure.
00:38:34
Felicia Devine
I need a grillable tender steak and I don't like really chewy.
00:38:34
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:38:37
Felicia Devine
So i'm standing here and I'm just perplexed.
00:38:38
Natalie Richards
Okay. Did you ask the meat guy, the butcher?
00:38:42
Felicia Devine
No, cause there's no, um forward facing butcher.
00:38:46
Natalie Richards
Oh, I see.
00:38:47
Felicia Devine
It's like local farm.
00:38:47
Natalie Richards
It's like, okay.
00:38:49
Felicia Devine
It's like farm to rec or farm to grocery store.
00:38:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:51
Felicia Devine
So they're like prepackaged. Um,
00:38:52
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:38:53
Felicia Devine
So I'm standing there and I'm like literally just like looking around and I'm taking more time than necessary because I like can't even like, I can't even bring myself to touch anything. I'm like, I don't even know what I'm doing. And I look over and up comes one of our dental friends, one of the dentists in the area.
00:39:08
Felicia Devine
I'm like, Jordan, he's like, what's up?
00:39:08
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:39:11
Felicia Devine
I'm like, Jordan, I need you to pick me out some steaks. He's like, what?
00:39:16
Natalie Richards
My wheelhouse. I don't know what I'm doing.
00:39:18
Felicia Devine
I'm like, so it looks like I'm like recruiting a stranger, which like he's not a stranger.
00:39:22
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:39:23
Felicia Devine
He's a friend of ours. But he was like looking for steaks himself. I think he was going to like do short ribs or something. But I'm like, Jordan, what kind of steak do I want? He's like, what like? I'm like, I want it to be tender and I want to grill it.
00:39:36
Felicia Devine
And I don't care what it costs.
00:39:40
Natalie Richards
Filet.
00:39:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:41
Natalie Richards
Filet mignon.
00:39:42
Felicia Devine
He's like, you went to the Marble? I'm like, I don't know what I want. You tell me what I want and I will buy it. So he's like, oh yeah, the Dominicanos. What are they called? Dominicanos? There's a steak.
00:39:53
Natalie Richards
Domenico steak, I think is what it is Yeah.
00:39:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah, whatever that is. He's like, but then there's like also a filet, but you don't want, you you could get this. And I don't like that brand or like this farm.
00:40:02
Natalie Richards
Hell.
00:40:02
Felicia Devine
Anyway. It left me with fewer questions, even fewer answers.
00:40:09
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:40:10
Felicia Devine
So he said a lot of words and touched a lot of meat. And then he was like, yeah, you got it and I was like, I don't think I got it.
00:40:13
Natalie Richards
And you had no idea.
00:40:18
Felicia Devine
And I'm super overstimulated now. But um I ended up getting the Domenicano. What are they called?
00:40:26
Natalie Richards
steak, I think.
00:40:26
Felicia Devine
Domenico?
00:40:27
Natalie Richards
Delmenico? Del...
00:40:28
Felicia Devine
What does that mean?
00:40:30
Natalie Richards
I don't know. It's some sort of cut.
00:40:30
Felicia Devine
Is that like is that like a Mexican gal
00:40:31
Natalie Richards
I don't i don't know. I don't think so.
00:40:35
Felicia Devine
Oh, oh, it is a cut.
00:40:36
Natalie Richards
I think it's a certain cut. I'm going look it up.
00:40:39
Felicia Devine
It's a cut.
00:40:39
Natalie Richards
It's a, yeah, it's a cut of of meat.
00:40:42
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:40:42
Natalie Richards
I just don't know where it comes from on the cow.
00:40:42
Felicia Devine
Well, there should be, there should be Pictionary in the butcher department of like what the cut is, what it's going to taste like, how tender it is and how to cook it.
00:40:52
Natalie Richards
There should be, except
00:40:54
Felicia Devine
Why isn't there?
Humane Meat Harvesting Discussion
00:40:55
Felicia Devine
I was like, I was looking at stuff. Oh, Delmonico. That sounds like a place in California.
00:40:55
Natalie Richards
most people, Delmonico, sorry, Delmonico steak is what it is.
00:41:02
Natalie Richards
It is, let's see.
00:41:05
Felicia Devine
did i Did I get a good steak?
00:41:06
Natalie Richards
Okay, it's a particular cut
00:41:08
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:41:09
Natalie Richards
is popularized by New York City's Delmonico's restaurant. So it's a particular cut that they use.
00:41:15
Felicia Devine
Oh. Okay, is that that sounds fancy, right? Ooh.
00:41:19
Natalie Richards
It's known for its rich flavor and tenderness from good marbling, though the exact cut varies and can be a boneless ribeye or New York strip. That's so strange. It's traditionally grilled or pan... Okay, that makes no sense to me.
00:41:34
Felicia Devine
Okay, now more confused.
00:41:35
Natalie Richards
I'm more confused because ribeye and a New York strip are very different in my in my humble opinion.
00:41:42
Felicia Devine
Are they? Okay.
00:41:45
Natalie Richards
What?
00:41:49
Natalie Richards
This is so weird. Okay. it I guess it's just saying that there's some sort of marbling in the steak, which sometimes New York strips are not marbled.
00:41:56
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:41:59
Natalie Richards
So I guess if you find a marbled New York strip that could be a Delmonico steak.
00:42:06
Felicia Devine
A square is not a rectangle, but a rectangle is... Wait.
00:42:10
Natalie Richards
And it just says the specific cut can vary.
00:42:11
Felicia Devine
Wait.
00:42:13
Natalie Richards
So sometimes it's a chuck eye steak, which ah is a poor man's ribeye or a choice cut from the rib.
00:42:13
Felicia Devine
have to...
00:42:22
Felicia Devine
Natalie, you've sent you've sent me into outer space. I'm not following anything.
00:42:27
Natalie Richards
i need to know where it comes from. It's not standardized. So I don't know what you bought. I don't know what a Delmonico is because I don't know what you bought.
00:42:34
Felicia Devine
Jordan, Jordan, I thought you made, well, honestly, what if they're delicious?
00:42:36
Natalie Richards
It can be a, it can be a thick cut ribeye, a chuck eye, or even a strip. And those are all different.
00:42:44
Felicia Devine
And now it sounds cheap.
00:42:46
Natalie Richards
No, those aren't, they're all, they're all expensive cuts.
00:42:49
Felicia Devine
I thought you said that cut the chuck eye was a knockoff of, yeah.
00:42:52
Natalie Richards
A poor man's ribeye, but it's not, it still is a good cut.
00:42:56
Felicia Devine
Wait, what's the most expensive cut? A ribeye? Mm-hmm.
00:42:59
Natalie Richards
Filet mignon probably is the most expensive cut, which I believe is the psoas muscle, if I'm not mistaken.
00:43:05
Felicia Devine
Oh, that tube. the little
00:43:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:07
Felicia Devine
Okay. Well, Sep loves a filet, but okay.
00:43:10
Natalie Richards
Tenderloin, like that that whatever comes from the tenderloin, which is filet.
00:43:12
Felicia Devine
All right. Well, anyway, we're going to try these Delmonicos, see how they go, but we'll have to go shopping for steak when you're here and Danny can grill for us.
00:43:17
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:43:21
Natalie Richards
Lovely, lovely.
00:43:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah. We'll have a steak night.
00:43:22
Natalie Richards
i should bring my I should bring a cooler on the plane of my cow that we have.
00:43:28
Felicia Devine
I thought you were like hoping to take cow back with you. Like, please don't.
00:43:31
Natalie Richards
No, no, no, no, no.
00:43:33
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I don't think you're going to need to do that.
00:43:34
Natalie Richards
I could bring my ethically harvested cow. Have I heard told you about my cow?
00:43:38
Felicia Devine
Wait. Yes. I was explaining this to a patient the other day. Please share with our audience. These, these poor cows.
00:43:45
Natalie Richards
Okay, this couple,
00:43:46
Felicia Devine
I mean, it's so kind, but it's also devastating what happens to them.
00:43:50
Natalie Richards
I mean, I suppose it's more devastating if you have to go a slaughterhouse than, it's just like a killing a deer.
00:43:51
Felicia Devine
I mean, you're smelling the roses. You're chomping the dandelions.
00:43:59
Natalie Richards
um
00:44:00
Felicia Devine
True. It just seems like a little bit more like they're having fun and then they're not. So can you explain what this means?
00:44:09
Natalie Richards
So this farm I get my meat from is the sweetest couple ever.
00:44:11
Felicia Devine
h
00:44:14
Natalie Richards
They're so sweet. Kyle actually went to school with the guy, like, or his family in this teeny little school of like 30 people back in the day.
00:44:22
Felicia Devine
Oh, wow.
00:44:23
Natalie Richards
So ah they're very sweet. They raise these cows like in the open, like these cows have the best life that you can possibly imagine.
00:44:34
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. I think that's why it's so sad.
00:44:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah. it's true. And they don't give them any, they don't give them anything. They're purely like grass fed cows. Like they are, maybe they get some hay, but that's still grass.
00:44:47
Natalie Richards
Um, and they, they field harvest them. So what that means is that it's essentially like if you went and you were hunting for venison, you were hunting for deer and you'll,
00:44:59
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:45:01
Natalie Richards
shoot the deer and you field dress it, which is basically like you're cutting up the pieces like in real time.
00:45:08
Felicia Devine
In real time.
00:45:09
Natalie Richards
Like you're not, you're not, yeah.
00:45:09
Felicia Devine
hey
00:45:11
Natalie Richards
Anyway. So what happens is that the cow doesn't feel fear because you're not leading it to a slaughterhouse where they're seeing all their friends and hearing all their friends die.
00:45:20
Felicia Devine
Stress.
00:45:25
Felicia Devine
Or they're not being transported in like trucks where they're overstuffed and.
00:45:28
Natalie Richards
right where there's Right. Where they're going from this beautiful farm with all this grass to like being stuffed in ah in a truck with a bunch of other cows and like wondering where their demise is going to be.
00:45:40
Natalie Richards
It reminds me of like Auschwitz. like That's what that reminds me of.
00:45:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Or Chicken Little.
00:45:46
Natalie Richards
like like oh God, it's so sad.
00:45:48
Felicia Devine
Wait, was that the chicken run? What's that movie? Chicken. What was that one where they're like turned to chicken pot pies and they escape?
00:45:55
Natalie Richards
Oh, yes. Yes. Oh my gosh.
00:45:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:00
Natalie Richards
It's so sad.
00:46:00
Felicia Devine
So that it's like, it's like, so essentially what's happening is like the cows that you're getting from the grocery store were like stressed out for a few hours to a few days prior to being slaughtered.
00:46:01
Natalie Richards
So...
00:46:08
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:46:12
Felicia Devine
So their meat tastes different.
00:46:12
Natalie Richards
And it makes the meat, like, it tastes different. it tastes like like stress hormones.
00:46:17
Felicia Devine
It tastes like fear. You're eating fear meat.
00:46:18
Natalie Richards
It tastes like fear. And it makes the meat seize a little bit. So like it makes the meat definitely not as tender.
00:46:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:28
Natalie Richards
So then you take these cows and you essentially just shoot them in a field.
00:46:32
Felicia Devine
And they have no idea it's coming.
00:46:34
Natalie Richards
They don't know what's coming. They're just really happy. Everything's good.
00:46:36
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:46:37
Natalie Richards
And then they're done. And that's, and then you like appreciate them and you say a prayer over them.
00:46:38
Felicia Devine
And then there's no fear.
00:46:43
Natalie Richards
And then you, it's like the native Americans, you just offer them up and then you eat the whole animal.
00:46:46
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:46:47
Natalie Richards
So like when I get my meat, I'm getting the ancestral blend with the liver and the heart and all that blended into my ground beef.
00:46:47
Felicia Devine
Yes. Mm-hmm.
00:46:55
Natalie Richards
And then I'm having the bones and I have the marrow and I have the, the suet and all of the the fat so I can make my own tallow.
00:46:56
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:46:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:04
Natalie Richards
and
00:47:06
Felicia Devine
Wow, Natalie. You're such a little regenerative eater. Mm-hmm.
00:47:12
Natalie Richards
So I love it because you can really, you can use the whole cow. You can get whatever cuts you want.
00:47:19
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:47:19
Natalie Richards
You go online and you like choose whatever you want. And then i don't know that they do ship.
00:47:22
Felicia Devine
Do they ship?
00:47:25
Felicia Devine
I need to find an ethically sourced cow.
00:47:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I don't know that many places do field harvesting. I've i've never heard of it before, before this place.
00:47:35
Felicia Devine
I know. it When you explained this to me a couple years ago, I was like, what?
00:47:39
Natalie Richards
And i was like, why...
00:47:40
Felicia Devine
But it makes so much sense.
00:47:41
Natalie Richards
But why wouldn't you? It's incredible. So their meat is very tender.
00:47:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah, imagine if you were marched to a
00:47:46
Natalie Richards
their Everything is just like, oh my gosh, it's amazing.
00:47:47
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:47:50
Felicia Devine
Do you get a full cow, half cow, quarter cow?
00:47:52
Natalie Richards
i got a half cow over a year
Toy Safety and Parenting Decisions
00:47:55
Natalie Richards
ago and I am still going through it.
00:47:55
Felicia Devine
And you still eat it?
00:47:58
Natalie Richards
Hmm.
00:47:58
Felicia Devine
What's your favorite thing from a cow? Like, do you get a lot of steaks? Do you get a lot of ground beef? Do you get, like, what do you do?
00:48:04
Natalie Richards
I love the roast. I love having like the bone in roast where there's like an arm.
00:48:09
Felicia Devine
What do you do with that?
00:48:10
Natalie Richards
ro I put it in the crock pot or slow cook it in the oven or something like that.
00:48:12
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:48:14
Natalie Richards
um I just did one the other day. It was so good. I had, I put it in before I went to work. And by the time I got home, it was, it was done and perfectly tender and lovely.
00:48:23
Felicia Devine
What do you do with it?
00:48:23
Natalie Richards
um I just, that one, i just put it in the crock.
00:48:26
Felicia Devine
Like, do you put it?
00:48:28
Natalie Richards
I have a crock pot that sears.
00:48:28
Felicia Devine
No, but like, do you, how do you eat it? Is it like in a bowl or on a sandwich?
00:48:31
Natalie Richards
Oh, So then, yeah, you could do whatever. Because I did that one actually like kind of Mexican flavors where it was like a it was a carnitas flavor, which really should be pork, but it didn't matter because it tasted really good on the beef.
00:48:37
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:48:44
Felicia Devine
You're like, no one's complaining at my house.
00:48:46
Natalie Richards
I liked it on the beef. So I did a car of carnitas beef roast basically, which is an oxymoron.
00:48:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:48:56
Felicia Devine
I did a pork
00:48:57
Natalie Richards
rose ah And it was great. So we did tacos and then I did like breakfast burritos with it, like to have done in my, in my fridge with like the almond flour tortillas.
00:49:05
Felicia Devine
Oh. Yeah.
00:49:10
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:49:11
Natalie Richards
So good. So good. It was amazing.
00:49:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:13
Natalie Richards
So I just usually like, I'll just like throw some meat in or cook it some way. Kyle actually cooked ground beef the other day, which was amazing that he did that.
00:49:23
Felicia Devine
Did he do a good job?
00:49:24
Natalie Richards
I mean, yeah. Can you mess it up? You probably could.
00:49:27
Felicia Devine
No.
00:49:28
Natalie Richards
You probably could.
00:49:29
Felicia Devine
I probably messed it up.
00:49:31
Natalie Richards
But he did it.
00:49:33
Felicia Devine
Good.
00:49:33
Natalie Richards
And that was very helpful.
00:49:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:36
Natalie Richards
So it's really like remembering to take the stuff out of the freezer is the problem.
00:49:39
Felicia Devine
How do you keep yourself organized? How do you know what you have?
00:49:43
Natalie Richards
um I don't.
00:49:45
Felicia Devine
You just guess.
00:49:45
Natalie Richards
mean I mean, I know.
00:49:45
Felicia Devine
You reach in You say, what's this?
00:49:46
Natalie Richards
In general, i know I know what I have, but it's all like in the freezer downstairs. So I'm like, oh, what do I want to do today? So I'll like alternate.
00:49:52
Felicia Devine
You're like, oh.
00:49:53
Natalie Richards
Oh, maybe we'll do a roast and some ground this this week. And then I'll take some steaks out and some ground the next week. And then usually ground beef is part of our weekly rotation because we have so much ground beef.
00:50:03
Felicia Devine
Rotation.
00:50:06
Felicia Devine
Well, and it's so good. Like I made, um I made like a I don't want to call it a homemade hamburger, but it was like, I did my own blend, my seasoning blend and like a good egg.
00:50:12
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Right. Right.
00:50:16
Felicia Devine
And i just omit ah breadcrumbs because the breadcrumbs we have in our pantry have seed oils in them.
00:50:19
Natalie Richards
right i know everything i know
00:50:22
Felicia Devine
I'm like, everything has a seed oil. So you know what? The burger didn't need a breadcrumb. It was fine without it.
00:50:29
Natalie Richards
yep i found these sourdough breadcrumbs like panko breadcrumbs and they don't have seed oils in them they're amazing i got them on thrive market there and whole food or uh costco had them for a little while
00:50:32
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah. Where do you get them? Oh, I love Thrive. Oh, okay.
00:50:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah, they're so good.
00:50:43
Felicia Devine
ah have to, I'll have to find.
00:50:43
Natalie Richards
Kushi, I think is what they're called. They're in this kushi.
00:50:45
Felicia Devine
Bougie? I was like, they are pretty bougie.
00:50:47
Natalie Richards
which With a K, I think is what it is.
00:50:51
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:50:51
Natalie Richards
But they were so good. They're not organic, but they're sourdough and they're they don't have seed oils.
00:50:53
Felicia Devine
Oh, yum.
00:50:56
Felicia Devine
There's no seed oils.
00:50:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:58
Felicia Devine
um Wait, I remembered what the salt thing was.
00:51:01
Natalie Richards
Oh, okay, what's it called?
00:51:02
Felicia Devine
It's called a salt cure.
00:51:04
Natalie Richards
ah salt cure. Okay. Okay.
00:51:06
Felicia Devine
C-U-R-E.
00:51:07
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:51:07
Felicia Devine
And essentially it's curing your house of all the evil spirits and bad energies and stuff.
00:51:12
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:51:14
Felicia Devine
So yeah, me too.
00:51:14
Natalie Richards
I'm gonna go do that today. I'm gonna find some pennies. I have them somewhere.
00:51:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:51:18
Natalie Richards
And we're gonna...
00:51:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Sep is like obsessed with like a pet penny.
00:51:20
Natalie Richards
yeah.
00:51:23
Natalie Richards
Really? He carries it with him.
00:51:24
Felicia Devine
he has have one penny and he carries it around. He puts it in things and he takes it and he's like, penny, penny. I'm like, where'd you put your penny?
00:51:30
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's cute.
00:51:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So it's so cute until he eats it.
00:51:32
Natalie Richards
That's so cute. Does he? He tries to.
00:51:36
Felicia Devine
No, but like, know, I know.
00:51:37
Natalie Richards
Or... no, he won't eat it. It's his pet.
00:51:40
Felicia Devine
But like, I'm just like so trusting of him with this penny. i'm like, don't eat this thing.
00:51:46
Natalie Richards
Does Sepp things in his mouth like, like, she never would dare to put something other than food in his mouth.
00:51:51
Felicia Devine
No.
00:51:53
Felicia Devine
Last spring, so early spring, before he was one, we started doing like more outdoor time, right?
00:52:00
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:52:00
Felicia Devine
And like him crawling around and exploring. It took maybe two weeks of no mouth.
00:52:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:52:06
Felicia Devine
No mouth.
00:52:06
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:52:07
Felicia Devine
Don't put that in your mouth. No mouth.
00:52:07
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:52:08
Felicia Devine
Okay. I had to repeat myself 600 times. But now he doesn't put anything in his mouth unless it's supposed to be in his mouth.
00:52:10
Natalie Richards
Sure. Nothing.
00:52:15
Natalie Richards
Gorgeous. Lovely.
00:52:16
Felicia Devine
And it's lovely. We can do Play-Doh.
00:52:18
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:52:18
Felicia Devine
can do paint. We can do, oh Natalie.
00:52:19
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:52:23
Natalie Richards
I don't know what to, what I would do with a child that did that, that put everything in their mouths.
00:52:26
Felicia Devine
No, I don't know. we've We have a few children that come to my office that are old enough not to put things in their mouth.
00:52:31
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:52:33
Felicia Devine
And it's tragic. The girls are chasing these kids around and they're eating crayons and eating chalk and like licking baby dolls.
00:52:38
Natalie Richards
oh
00:52:40
Felicia Devine
And we're like, quit it.
00:52:42
Natalie Richards
Okay, there are some kids that I see where I'm like, how do you how do you parent that?
00:52:46
Felicia Devine
That can't be normal. That's called
00:52:49
Natalie Richards
Because I don't have that child.
00:52:51
Felicia Devine
that's called a nutritional deficiency.
00:52:52
Natalie Richards
That's true. That's also true.
00:52:55
Felicia Devine
That's called they're lacking something in their diet and they think everything's going to satiate the nutritional deficiency.
00:52:57
Natalie Richards
That's true.
00:53:00
Natalie Richards
That's true.
00:53:00
Felicia Devine
They need iron. um okay Okay. I bought name brand kinetic sand because I tried to make my own.
00:53:11
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:53:13
Natalie Richards
And it doesn't work and it doesn't.
00:53:15
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry. That was the messiest disaster I've ever done in my whole life. And I'm like, that won't ever happen inside my house again.
00:53:20
Natalie Richards
Why do you even want that in your house?
00:53:23
Felicia Devine
I don't know, but I was like, well, I want to okay, we do rice bucket and rice bucket is so fun, but I wanted something that had a little bit more like moisture to it, right?
00:53:24
Natalie Richards
Okay. That's a no-go for me. Okay.
00:53:31
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:53:33
Felicia Devine
Like I wanted more, like more Play-Doh, but like not Play-Doh.
00:53:33
Natalie Richards
okay
00:53:37
Felicia Devine
Anyway, so I bought the name brand connected.
00:53:37
Natalie Richards
who
00:53:40
Natalie Richards
okay
00:53:41
Felicia Devine
It's so poisonous. I mean, you open the bag and you're like, oh my God, petroleum product.
00:53:45
Natalie Richards
ah slapped in the face.
00:53:46
Felicia Devine
Like, oh, it's, it's atrocious, but it is so fun.
00:53:46
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:53:50
Natalie Richards
Oh. Is it really?
00:53:53
Felicia Devine
It is, I'm addicted.
00:53:54
Natalie Richards
Oh, it actually like, oh, the thought of it.
00:53:56
Felicia Devine
But I make, Giuseppe has to wear his underwear when we're playing with kinetic sand because I cannot have his private parts getting kinetic sand poison on them.
00:53:59
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:54:02
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. No, no, no, no, no. no
00:54:06
Felicia Devine
Oh, but the kinetic, oh, Natalie, it's so good.
00:54:06
Natalie Richards
It actually the feeling, oh, I could just die actually thinking about it.
00:54:12
Felicia Devine
It's so good, but it's so poisonous.
00:54:15
Natalie Richards
I hate sand anyway.
00:54:15
Felicia Devine
It's terrible for you.
00:54:16
Natalie Richards
Oh my god, I hate it.
00:54:17
Felicia Devine
It's terrible. So I don't know if I'm proud of myself or not proud of myself for buying it. Like I'm proud of myself like, oh, you're so type B. Like it's okay to have some poison. But then I'm also like, oh, I'm not proud of myself because I just allowed that into my house.
00:54:30
Natalie Richards
I know. It's okay. It's gonna dry up in another like few weeks anyway. We'll be done.
00:54:34
Felicia Devine
hopefully, but in like all bold capital letters, it's like wash hands with soap and water immediately following play.
00:54:37
Natalie Richards
Do not eat. oh Wait, for real?
00:54:41
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, for them to have that on the label, that must mean it's literally, ah should I throw it away? It's, I should throw it away.
00:54:48
Natalie Richards
Oh, I'm not sure.
00:54:49
Felicia Devine
Shouldn't I?
00:54:50
Natalie Richards
I'm not sure. Give him a couple times of playing with it and then be like, okay, that was fun. We're done.
00:54:55
Felicia Devine
done. But he loves to hide his penny.
00:54:56
Natalie Richards
That's what I would do.
00:54:57
Felicia Devine
I think that I reminded because he likes to put his penny in it and we hide the penny and then we find the penny and then where's the penny.
00:55:00
Natalie Richards
oh Oh, that's cute.
00:55:02
Felicia Devine
And then the, yeah but
00:55:04
Natalie Richards
There's got to be some. I mean, you could get into the slime making business.
00:55:08
Felicia Devine
No, no, not for me.
00:55:09
Natalie Richards
No.
00:55:12
Felicia Devine
i did I never thought I'd be a name brand kinetic girl.
00:55:17
Felicia Devine
But there is a non-tox, quote unquote, kinetic sand that uses, it's like the, you know, the playground dense foam that's like the the padding, not the wood chip playgrounds, but the ones that have like the rubber mat almost.
00:55:26
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yep. No. Yep. Yep.
00:55:32
Felicia Devine
It's pulverized that.
00:55:34
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:55:35
Felicia Devine
And it kind of sticks together in a sense, but then you can pull it apart and it falls apart almost like a kinetic sand. But they've been sold out of it. So that's why I went with the Poison brand.
00:55:44
Natalie Richards
I see with the poison brand.
00:55:46
Felicia Devine
So I think when
Potty Training Struggles
00:55:47
Felicia Devine
the the non-tox version comes back into play.
00:55:47
Natalie Richards
Hi, Jean. Then you can get that. yeah well our petsman with a comedian and know i want um Felicia is asking if you've pooped on the potty to get your creature in your room.
00:55:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Hi, Jean. That's smart.
00:55:58
Felicia Devine
Jean, have you been pooping on the potty? Do you get your lizard yet?
00:56:07
Natalie Richards
Have you been doing that? Okay. Yeah,
00:56:11
Felicia Devine
Oh, Jean, you want to say hi to me?
00:56:13
Natalie Richards
he wants to say hi.
00:56:15
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:56:15
Natalie Richards
um We were supposed to be doing potty training this weekend and we started trying yesterday and he was like, you're not you're not taking my diapers away from me.
00:56:17
Felicia Devine
Hi, Jean. Yeah?
00:56:22
Felicia Devine
Hello?
00:56:26
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:56:28
Natalie Richards
That's basically what he said. you think you're hilarious?
00:56:31
Felicia Devine
Hi, Jean.
00:56:32
Natalie Richards
close And he is pretty much like the day before we had a deal and I said, Jean, if you want a creature,
00:56:45
Natalie Richards
You have to be potty trained.
00:56:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:56:47
Natalie Richards
Right, Jean? Isn't that what I told you?
00:56:49
Felicia Devine
Jean, you have to be potty trained if you want a creature.
00:56:51
Natalie Richards
and And I said, I'm going to say bye-bye to diapers.
00:56:52
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:56:55
Natalie Richards
And tomorrow we're going to start. And then in the morning came and I said, okay, we we're putting our big boy pants on. And he said, no.
00:57:05
Felicia Devine
Jean!
00:57:05
Natalie Richards
He said, I want my diapers. And he said, I want to stay in my diapers. He won't even wear a pull-up.
00:57:12
Felicia Devine
my gosh. Wait, I got Sep, like, not that this, it was conceptually too advanced for Sep, but I got him like cool panties that had like Paw Patrol on them.
00:57:23
Natalie Richards
we We have them. We have the Hot Wheels.
00:57:24
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:57:25
Natalie Richards
We have the... Yeah. Okay, bye, Gene. He doesn't want to talk about it anymore.
00:57:31
Felicia Devine
um He's over it. He said, nope. Yeah. I think um Giuseppe like conceptually wasn't as advanced to say no. he Well, he was the one that was like kind of leading it, but
00:57:39
Natalie Richards
No, he wasn't, and that's why you're way smarter than me. To do this way before.
00:57:46
Felicia Devine
m
00:57:47
Natalie Richards
but the clips
00:57:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:48
Natalie Richards
Way before they get really attached. So now...
00:57:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:51
Natalie Richards
where i don't know i don't know the bribes have happened the candy has happened the the creeper now he go he'll go he totally goes in the potty and poop and pot but he just won't wear underwear that's the that's the sticking point so then during the day he'll still pee in his diaper because obviously because he just doesn't feel it so i'm like we gotta and then we've tried the the like little um
00:57:56
Felicia Devine
and it he's Is it the pooping or the peeing?
00:58:03
Felicia Devine
But he just wants a diaper.
00:58:08
Felicia Devine
So crazy. Oh.
00:58:16
Felicia Devine
Wait.
00:58:21
Natalie Richards
not really underwear, but like there's absorbent underwear.
00:58:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it's the one with the like the liner.
00:58:26
Natalie Richards
Like a diaper, but it goes on like a pull up and he hates it going over his legs like that.
00:58:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:58:32
Felicia Devine
Okay, Natalie, here's a hack. Here's a hack. Try this. Commando.
00:58:38
Natalie Richards
he He won't even walk. He like, he goes, i need a diaper, I need a diaper, I'm telling you.
00:58:44
Felicia Devine
Wait, he needs a diaper to even like function? Oh.
00:58:48
Natalie Richards
it's a problem. Like it's a real, it's a real problem.
00:58:49
Felicia Devine
Oh, Natalie. Oh, Natalie. Oh, I didn't know that.
00:58:56
Natalie Richards
So like he just wants it so bad and he has like an actual meltdown if he doesn't have the diaper on.
00:58:58
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:59:02
Felicia Devine
Okay. Gotcha. I thought it was just like he refused to like use the potty.
00:59:04
Natalie Richards
The problem is the diaper. who He goes in the potty, poops in the potty, he has to have a diaper on.
00:59:08
Felicia Devine
No, it's like he needs to be wearing a diaper.
00:59:12
Natalie Richards
So then that prevents our daily like remembering of, oh, we have to go potty because he'll just he just doesn't have to.
00:59:17
Felicia Devine
Because he doesn't need to.
00:59:20
Natalie Richards
So he'll go like you he'll say, oh, I have to go potty occasionally. What
00:59:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah, right, right.
00:59:27
Natalie Richards
happened, baby? Yeah, we're still talking about you and your pottying. Felicia says Felicia says that baby Sep doesn't wear diapers anymore. boom
00:59:37
Felicia Devine
Mm-mm.
00:59:37
Natalie Richards
o You have a blue boy. need to kiss it. OK. Is that better? okay
00:59:47
Natalie Richards
So I don't know. I don't know if he needs public shaming. i don't know if but
00:59:52
Felicia Devine
we were Wait, wait, wait. What if you just like run out of diapers and you're like, oh my God, Jean, we don't have any. We ran out, but you didn't really run out.
00:59:58
Natalie Richards
I think I feel like that's.
01:00:00
Felicia Devine
But like, you just like tell him, like, let them like like dwindle away in his diaper caddy and then be like, oh my God, Jean, we don't have any more diapers.
01:00:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:04
Natalie Richards
Just go. Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
01:00:08
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Now what are we going to do? And he's going to have a meltdown.
01:00:10
Felicia Devine
That's like, I feel like that's what people do with their pacifier.
01:00:12
Natalie Richards
And then it's just, that's what that's what we had to do with that.
01:00:14
Felicia Devine
They like go missing.
01:00:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It just was gone one day and I dealt with a couple days of crying and then it's gone.
01:00:18
Felicia Devine
or Or I've seen people plant a pacifier in the garden, right?
01:00:23
Natalie Richards
I saw that too.
01:00:23
Felicia Devine
Go outside, plant the pacifier.
01:00:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah. We could plant a diape plant his diapers.
01:00:25
Felicia Devine
Tomorrow you wake up, plant a diaper, and it's going to grow into a dinosaur.
01:00:31
Natalie Richards
Oh boy. Mm-hmm.
01:00:33
Felicia Devine
Or put, wait, put his diaper in an Easter egg, one of those big ones from the dollar store.
01:00:37
Natalie Richards
Oh, and then the Easter Bunny comes and takes him away.
01:00:38
Felicia Devine
and then in the morning it, or no, in the morning it turns into a dinosaur. It cracks open and it's a dinosaur.
01:00:43
Natalie Richards
Oh, maybe. Okay. Okay.
01:00:44
Felicia Devine
And now he has no more diapers because they turn to dinosaurs.
Future Podcast Plans and Conclusion
01:00:48
Natalie Richards
Lovely. I like it.
01:00:49
Felicia Devine
He's too smart for his own good.
01:00:51
Natalie Richards
He He is.
01:00:53
Felicia Devine
Okay. So if you're listening, potty train your child before they're smarter than you.
01:00:59
Natalie Richards
Which sometimes happens really fast. Yeah.
01:01:03
Felicia Devine
Giuseppe's awake.
01:01:05
Natalie Richards
Oh, sappy-sap. Okay, we'll have to go.
01:01:06
Felicia Devine
Seppi, Sepp. Okay.
01:01:07
Natalie Richards
Okay, that's the episode.
01:01:07
Felicia Devine
All right. Well, and it's also one hour, so perfect timing, Giuseppe.
01:01:12
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
01:01:13
Felicia Devine
Oh, I can't catch a break this week.
01:01:14
Natalie Richards
Oh no.
01:01:15
Felicia Devine
He's been taking pretty terrible naps, and it's just so lovely when it's a day you're by yourself.
01:01:17
Natalie Richards
ah
01:01:20
Natalie Richards
He might just be at that like transition time that he's not needing very long ones.
01:01:25
Felicia Devine
Don't tell me that.
01:01:26
Natalie Richards
I know, I'm sorry. It happens eventually.
01:01:27
Felicia Devine
Natalie, you don't need diapers, and Sepp doesn't need long naps.
01:01:29
Natalie Richards
happens eventually.
01:01:30
Felicia Devine
Oh, this is a horrible way to end.
01:01:35
Felicia Devine
ah You know, that's what friends are for, to tell you the hard stuff.
01:01:36
Natalie Richards
The time is coming to the end. Yeah,
01:01:41
Felicia Devine
Okay. Well, the next time I see Natalie, I'm going to be in person with her.
01:01:44
Natalie Richards
yeah we're going to in-person podcast.
01:01:46
Felicia Devine
Recording. Yes. I can't wait. I know.
01:01:49
Natalie Richards
I don't know what we're going to talk about, but something amazing.
01:01:51
Felicia Devine
I'm almost like, okay, we can't talk about anything fun or funny until we record. Maybe we should record like right when you get here.
01:01:55
Natalie Richards
I know. Do it like right away. I think that might be a good idea. Mm-hmm.
01:01:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. We can have, maybe we'll have a glass of wine and do like an evening recording on Friday.
01:02:04
Natalie Richards
Beautiful. we need to We need to plan out our our few days.
01:02:04
Felicia Devine
Okay.
01:02:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah, our itinerary.
01:02:08
Natalie Richards
Also, did you see it's supposed to be 70 degrees on Saturday?
01:02:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:02:12
Natalie Richards
with Like where you are? Like that's going to be amazing.
01:02:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. the Our photographer sent me and was like, it's going to be spring.
01:02:19
Natalie Richards
Oh, is that what day we're doing in the photo shoot?
01:02:19
Felicia Devine
i know. So I think we're doing it set Sunday? Saturday.
01:02:25
Natalie Richards
Okay.
01:02:26
Felicia Devine
No, Sunday. I don't know. One of those two days.
01:02:28
Natalie Richards
Whatever.
01:02:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I'm excited.
01:02:29
Natalie Richards
Okay. We got some planning to do. i picked up our shirts and hats.
01:02:33
Felicia Devine
Did you?
01:02:34
Natalie Richards
I'm not going to show you yet.
01:02:34
Felicia Devine
I'm so excited. Okay. We'll keep it a surprise.
01:02:41
Natalie Richards
Okay.
01:02:41
Felicia Devine
Okay.
01:02:41
Natalie Richards
Bye.
01:02:42
Felicia Devine
Well, that's all for today.