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S2.Ep2 - Strung Out Like Christmas Lights
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Happy ho-ho-holidays, feral fam. We are not okay — we’re stretched thinner than a sad little hair tie and hanging on by a single scrap of wrapping paper. If your nervous system feels like Christmas lights that got tangled in storage and never emotionally recovered — same.
We’re unpacking all things holiday survival: gift giving as a love language (and also a personality flaw), wrapping paper moral dilemmas, what we’re actually buying for our toddlers this year, and why a poorly trained Grinch should never be allowed within finger-tickling distance of a baby in a bunting.
We also chat family traditions (cookies for Santa, carrot evidence, Seven Fishes, and a Christmas morning cold plunge that sounds illegal), plus the sweet/funny realities of mom life when your kid is either (a) calling Santa on a pretend phone line or (b) stopping the entire household production to pick up a microscopic crumb.
Merry everything. Good luck out there.
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Transcript
Intro
Holiday Greetings and Frazzled Feelings
00:00:50
Felicia Devine
Hello, Natalie.
00:00:51
Natalie Richards
Hi, Felicia.
00:00:53
Felicia Devine
Welcome back to episode two.
00:00:55
Natalie Richards
Oh boy we've got a we've got an episode today.
00:00:57
Felicia Devine
oh
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Felicia Devine
Happy ho-ho holidays.
00:01:01
Natalie Richards
yeah Happy? I wish I could swear.
00:01:06
Felicia Devine
Beep.
00:01:07
Natalie Richards
Because that's how I feel
Decorating Challenges and Festive Opinions
00:01:08
Natalie Richards
right now.
00:01:09
Felicia Devine
Oh God, I know i'm a little I'm a little um frazzled. no Is it frazzled?
00:01:14
Natalie Richards
i I feel...
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Felicia Devine
what ah What are we?
00:01:16
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:01:16
Felicia Devine
We're not frazzled.
00:01:16
Natalie Richards
Frazzled. I feel as, as close to strung out as, I can feel.
00:01:17
Felicia Devine
Frazzled?
00:01:23
Felicia Devine
as the Christmas lights on the front of my house. No, I did not have the capacity to string lights on the front of my house, I'm sorry.
00:01:31
Natalie Richards
I, Kyle and I did that thankfully when I was still feeling motivated. Two days after and we put lights on the house.
00:01:36
Felicia Devine
You guys string lights on your house?
00:01:39
Natalie Richards
Two days after that, I said, I'm not doing anything else. done. I'm done.
Holiday Stress and Hair Tie Analogy
00:01:46
Felicia Devine
Okay, I'll tell you what. I told Dan I wanted projectors for the house.
00:01:52
Natalie Richards
like The snowflakes and the...
00:01:52
Felicia Devine
He literally goes, yes, sir I wanted snowflakes falling down the side of my siding. And he's like, Felicia, that is not it. And I'm like, no, it's so cute.
00:02:03
Felicia Devine
And he's like, no, it's not. it He literally thinks it's like, I was gonna say trashy.
00:02:06
Natalie Richards
Like tacky. Uh-huh. Uh-oh.
00:02:10
Felicia Devine
and lost my hair tie. We're starting off.
00:02:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah, this isn't starting this day.
00:02:13
Felicia Devine
Okay, I regained my hair tie. um my My hair tie is as stretched out as I am.
00:02:18
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. i I like those hair ties for the first two times you use them.
00:02:23
Felicia Devine
The end of my limits. Yes. They're lovely because they're so soft, but it's literally made out of somebody's old t-shirt cuff. And I'm like, no.
00:02:33
Natalie Richards
And then I put it on my wrist and it's literally dangling off. Like this is not doing that.
00:02:40
Felicia Devine
It's a great analogy for
Gift Wrapping Strategies and Behind-the-Scenes
00:02:41
Felicia Devine
how I feel. Right?
00:02:42
Natalie Richards
One more thing to just throw me over the edge.
00:02:45
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:02:45
Natalie Richards
it was did I don't know if I sent it to you. There was this this Instagram post. thing She was talking about like how she's just one, one minor inconvenience away from really not being okay.
00:03:00
Natalie Richards
And she's talking about how like you you like measure the wrapping paper and you measure it wrong and you bring it together and it's like like a hair
00:03:01
Felicia Devine
Committing a crime.
00:03:12
Natalie Richards
up
00:03:14
Felicia Devine
Wait, okay. What kind of person are you?
00:03:15
Natalie Richards
And that's enough to just make you lose your mind.
00:03:20
Felicia Devine
to throw something out a window. What kind of person are you? Are you going to now patchwork in a second piece or are you throwing it away?
00:03:28
Natalie Richards
it depend ah It depends on who's who it's for.
00:03:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:03:32
Natalie Richards
Definitely. um If it's for... Right.
00:03:35
Felicia Devine
If it's for my husband, i'm not even doing anything. it's It's just getting flipped on its side.
00:03:39
Natalie Richards
me right
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Natalie Richards
i
00:03:43
Felicia Devine
if it's for my own mother or my mother-in-law, I'm redoing it.
00:03:47
Natalie Richards
Absolutely. if If it's like a really big thing and I'm like, oh, that was a lot of paper, first of all, and it's really big and somebody would look at it and be like, oh, it's really big anyway.
00:03:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:03:57
Felicia Devine
We cannot start over. yeah
00:04:01
Natalie Richards
Like I understand why it isn't wrapped properly.
00:04:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Not a jewelry box that you're like clearly using a scrap for.
00:04:08
Natalie Richards
Then yeah I probably will just let it be.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:04:12
Felicia Devine
Okay. Okay.
00:04:13
Natalie Richards
Depends on what mood I'm in.
00:04:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. I'm more likely to not fix it than I am to patch it.
00:04:16
Natalie Richards
Depends on what mood I'm in.
00:04:22
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:04:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Like I'm likely to leave it empty than I am to patch it.
00:04:25
Natalie Richards
To just, yes. Agreed.
00:04:27
Felicia Devine
Oh, patching. How, how do you do your wrapping? Do you wrap all in one night?
00:04:33
Natalie Richards
um it depend i have so many people that i buy for right now It's
00:04:37
Felicia Devine
I know. Same.
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Natalie Richards
crazy
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Felicia Devine
I feel like Santa. And if, okay, we have a disclaimer that we need to throw out.
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Natalie Richards
i truly do
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Felicia Devine
If you're listening with small children, we are going to be talking about the BTS of Christmas.
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Natalie Richards
Christmas.
00:04:53
Felicia Devine
So maybe your kids could go listen to something else right now.
00:04:57
Natalie Richards
Right.
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Felicia Devine
We don't want to spoil any fun surprises for your kids. um So yeah, pause and
00:05:04
Natalie Richards
We'll give you two minutes. No, just kidding.
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Felicia Devine
To remove
Gift Wrap Categories and Homemade Bows
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Felicia Devine
your child.
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Natalie Richards
Okay.
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Felicia Devine
um No, but so you, how do you do your wrapping? Do you wrap in like themes? Like, okay, you're doing stuff for like friends and family or like, I guess like coworkers or I don't even know how you would do it.
00:05:16
Natalie Richards
This year, i did you i used different paper for each category of people.
00:05:22
Felicia Devine
Did you?
00:05:23
Natalie Richards
I did. Just because i can't.
00:05:24
Felicia Devine
That's organized. Okay.
00:05:26
Natalie Richards
it It's purely for necessity. Because I can't.
00:05:28
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:05:30
Natalie Richards
I can't like think about it too hard.
00:05:33
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:05:34
Natalie Richards
So I did that. I'm the person who does homemade bows on every package. And this is me.
00:05:39
Felicia Devine
Natalie Richards.
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Natalie Richards
Like I love wrapping. And this year i said, mm no, no.
00:05:44
Felicia Devine
Oh, I thought you were still doing homemade with a...
00:05:46
Natalie Richards
Except I did.
00:05:48
Felicia Devine
Oh! This year said, no, thank you, and then I still did it.
00:05:52
Natalie Richards
I started i started like probably a week and a half ago and I got all like most of the wrapping stuff done and I only did bows on like a couple things where I was like, okay, this would this needs a bow or something.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Right.
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Natalie Richards
And then i got to like a couple days ago and I go, okay, fine. I'll just do bows on all of them because I just can't.
00:06:15
Felicia Devine
You couldn't stand You just couldn't stand it.
00:06:16
Natalie Richards
I couldn't stand it. But I also like very, very easily could have just
00:06:18
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:06:21
Natalie Richards
given up this year for sure.
00:06:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:23
Natalie Richards
I just can't. I just can't do it this year. I don't know. Something feels just, ugh, it's harder.
00:06:28
Felicia Devine
Harder. Yeah.
00:06:30
Natalie Richards
And it shouldn't be.
00:06:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:31
Natalie Richards
like it
00:06:33
Felicia Devine
No, it should be.
00:06:33
Natalie Richards
Gene is easier this year. like it shouldn't be harder. But it's just like the general feeling of everything in the world right now, I guess.
00:06:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:41
Natalie Richards
not even Nothing bad is even
00:06:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
Gift Exchanges and Love Languages
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Natalie Richards
happening.
00:06:44
Natalie Richards
It's just, I just feel like the vibes are off.
00:06:44
Felicia Devine
What? What?
00:06:49
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:06:50
Natalie Richards
The vibes are off.
00:06:50
Felicia Devine
No, I, ah so I don't theme my paper to any category of person.
00:06:55
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:06:57
Felicia Devine
However, most all of my paper has the same vibe because I have to be able to like mix and match my ribbon and my paper.
00:07:02
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:07:05
Natalie Richards
Totally.
00:07:07
Felicia Devine
And it has to have like, it has to be like, oh, that came from Felicia.
00:07:08
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:07:12
Natalie Richards
Totally.
00:07:12
Felicia Devine
You know, it has to be like in my category.
00:07:12
Natalie Richards
Love it. Yes. Cohesive. Yes. Okay.
00:07:15
Felicia Devine
Cohesive. Except I absolutely panic bought a roll of wrapping paper that was so darn cute last Christmas. And it's like holographic dinosaurs with Santa hats.
00:07:29
Natalie Richards
Cute. Have that be the Santa paper.
00:07:31
Felicia Devine
So that doesn't go with the vibe.
00:07:33
Natalie Richards
Have that be the Santa paper.
00:07:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But Sep doesn't even know what Santa is still. So like...
00:07:37
Natalie Richards
No, he doesn't. So save it.
00:07:39
Felicia Devine
I'm kind of, well, I kind of already used some of it, but like, it's so funny.
00:07:41
Natalie Richards
okay. Well, he won't know.
00:07:43
Felicia Devine
Cause it's like all this like beautiful, like brown craft paper with these like nice, like rich painted looking things on.
00:07:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:07:50
Felicia Devine
And then it's like holographic dinosaurs. So it's a little abrasive to the eye, but that's okay.
00:07:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:07:56
Felicia Devine
Cause I did that first, like a few set things, but I, yeah.
00:07:57
Natalie Richards
It's okay. Okay. a And he'll love it.
00:08:01
Felicia Devine
And he'll be so thrilled and he'll love the paper and not the gift. Um,
00:08:04
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:08:04
Felicia Devine
Um, but I've been wrapping for like three weeks now. I do, I have a whole wrapping station.
00:08:11
Natalie Richards
Oh, I love it.
00:08:12
Felicia Devine
i have a table. I have all of my wrapping supplies.
00:08:13
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:08:15
Felicia Devine
I have my old nursing cart that I had like all my like nursing stuff on that was empty.
00:08:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:08:20
Felicia Devine
So I put all of my like tags, ribbon, um, cards, tape, scissors.
00:08:24
Natalie Richards
Love.
00:08:26
Felicia Devine
And I like wheel my cart and I watch a movie.
00:08:27
Natalie Richards
Love.
00:08:29
Felicia Devine
I can't hear anything. Who, no one told me wrapping paper was so loud.
00:08:34
Natalie Richards
It's so true.
00:08:34
Felicia Devine
What in the world? I literally turned on a movie and go, I didn't hear a single word.
00:08:38
Natalie Richards
But it doesn't even matter.
00:08:38
Felicia Devine
I didn't hear a single word. No.
00:08:40
Natalie Richards
It's all background noise. It doesn't matter.
00:08:41
Felicia Devine
It's all the vibe.
00:08:41
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:08:42
Felicia Devine
It's all the vibe.
00:08:42
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:08:43
Felicia Devine
But, yeah, I've been rapping for weeks.
00:08:44
Natalie Richards
Yep. Oh, my. See, I can't.
00:08:46
Felicia Devine
And I kind of got some kickback. People are like, what are you rapping? And I'm like, what do you mean, what am I rapping? I'm rapping GIFs.
00:08:52
Natalie Richards
I think people don't buy anything for anybody other than their immediate family, which I understand why you wouldn't.
00:08:59
Felicia Devine
Well...
00:09:00
Natalie Richards
But that's not the luxury that we are.
00:09:06
Felicia Devine
Well, i have to buy gifts for all my employees and then I buy them extra like other things that I have to wrap. I did that at ah work yesterday. I
00:09:14
Natalie Richards
yes
Thoughtful Gifts: Salt Grater and Somavidic Pyramid
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Felicia Devine
wrapped other things.
00:09:15
Felicia Devine
um Yeah.
00:09:17
Natalie Richards
i i mean
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Felicia Devine
I don't know. I'll tell you. My number one love language is a gift.
00:09:21
Natalie Richards
same
00:09:22
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry. i and and I don't know why I say sorry because it's not a bad thing because I love giving gifts.
00:09:26
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep. That's – yes.
00:09:27
Felicia Devine
I love giving. I love receiving gifts.
00:09:30
Natalie Richards
Can we talk about the incredible gift you got me just for a second?
00:09:34
Felicia Devine
Oh, was that not absolutely stunning?
00:09:39
Natalie Richards
Stunning.
00:09:39
Felicia Devine
OK, let's talk about it.
00:09:41
Natalie Richards
Felicia sends me the most incredible,
00:09:47
Natalie Richards
perfect. I talked to Kyle about this at length after I received it.
00:09:50
Felicia Devine
It's like literally so perfect.
00:09:52
Natalie Richards
i go, that was the perfect gift. it was It was me. It was something I would maybe buy myself if i ah really had like an inkling like be super over the top.
00:09:59
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:10:02
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:10:05
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah. If it was like midnight and you were like about to get your period and you're like, I am impulsively buying this.
00:10:10
Natalie Richards
totally. Right. Like it would be like, okay, I need that.
00:10:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:14
Natalie Richards
But like, I don't need that.
00:10:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. Right.
00:10:17
Natalie Richards
But it was the perfect thing to have somebody get for me because I was like, oh my gosh, yes. Like that's something I would love.
00:10:22
Felicia Devine
It's so over the top.
00:10:24
Natalie Richards
So Felicia got me this, like, it's, it's a decorative salt grater set, but saying that is like not even what it is
00:10:31
Felicia Devine
Think.
00:10:34
Felicia Devine
No. Think like. upscale cheese grater with a marble stand for your salt.
00:10:39
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:10:44
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:10:45
Felicia Devine
A chunk of salt, like a rock salt.
00:10:45
Natalie Richards
and A rock of salt, like ah a golf ball sized salt rock.
00:10:52
Felicia Devine
Salt, and then extra salt rocks.
00:10:53
Natalie Richards
along ah but Exactly. Like ah a glass jar of extra salt rocks and a glass jar of these little pepper, long little pepper things that you then grate.
00:10:56
Felicia Devine
A glass jar of extra salt rocks.
00:11:01
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:11:05
Felicia Devine
that you grate.
00:11:06
Natalie Richards
Oh my word. I just couldn't even...
00:11:09
Felicia Devine
And then these toothpicks, is this where toothpicks originate?
00:11:12
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:11:13
Felicia Devine
I have never seen this.
00:11:14
Natalie Richards
People used trees for toothpicks. Yeah.
00:11:17
Felicia Devine
Is that, what is it? I've never i've never seen it. it's So it's basically a bundle of, it looks similar to maybe the shape of a pine cone.
00:11:24
Natalie Richards
it Yeah. It looks like a dried, long, hairy pine cone thing. Yeah.
00:11:32
Felicia Devine
Kind of. And you peel off and break off a toothpick.
00:11:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:11:36
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:11:37
Felicia Devine
Have you used one?
00:11:38
Natalie Richards
I have not used one yet.
00:11:38
Felicia Devine
Do they work?
00:11:39
Natalie Richards
I will use one.
00:11:40
Felicia Devine
They're gorgeous.
00:11:41
Natalie Richards
They're insane. Like I just want to like leave it there and just not disturb it.
00:11:44
Felicia Devine
I know. Now, have you graded your salt? is it
00:11:46
Natalie Richards
Oh yes. Oh yes.
00:11:47
Felicia Devine
Is it luxury?
00:11:48
Natalie Richards
It's luxury. huh
00:11:50
Felicia Devine
Have you used the pepper?
00:11:50
Natalie Richards
er ah No, I haven't used that one yet. i tried to use it for gene I tried to use it for Gene the other day and he goes, i don't know.
00:11:53
Felicia Devine
and See, I don't like pepper, so... Yeah. Oh, that's too fancy for me.
00:11:59
Natalie Richards
But kyle Kyle made me grate his great salt for him on his eggs.
00:12:04
Felicia Devine
It's like Parmesan.
00:12:04
Natalie Richards
ah
00:12:04
Felicia Devine
It's like creating Parmesan on your Italian dinner.
00:12:06
Natalie Richards
i so I said, say when.
00:12:09
Felicia Devine
anyway
00:12:12
Felicia Devine
i love it. No, I literally saw it and I said, if this isn't Natalie, I don't know what is.
00:12:18
Natalie Richards
It's beyond. It's just beyond.
00:12:20
Felicia Devine
It's just Natalie. Yeah.
00:12:21
Natalie Richards
It was so perfect.
00:12:21
Felicia Devine
And then what did I receive the mail the other day?
00:12:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:12:24
Felicia Devine
The most perfect gift for me. so do you shop? Do you use the shop app, whatever that thing's called, where it tracks all your packages?
00:12:34
Natalie Richards
I think I, I think I like in without knowing i do like when it, whenever it comes up as an option to buy something and you just push the button shop.
00:12:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
00:12:44
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:12:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:12:45
Felicia Devine
Okay. So I have the app on my phone. So it like has like all of my packages that are on every platform you could ever imagine.
00:12:48
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:12:52
Felicia Devine
and it tells you like when they're shipping, when they're arriving out for delivery, like it's, whoever created that, lovely.
00:12:54
Natalie Richards
I see. Okay.
00:12:58
Natalie Richards
Quite nice. Yeah, I know. It's great.
00:13:00
Felicia Devine
Um, anyway, so where was it? Oh, so I know what's coming to my house. I opened my door, a package is there.
00:13:07
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:13:10
Felicia Devine
I've never ordered this package. I don't know what it is, but my name's on it. I rip it open. i immediately rip because I'm just like, I can't wait for anything. And what is it?
00:13:20
Felicia Devine
It's a somavidic pyramid. And it is just, literally, i look at it and I'm like, I'm a better human looking at this pyramid.
00:13:29
Natalie Richards
Exactly. i saw that and I was like, oh my gosh. And I know you have them.
00:13:33
Felicia Devine
It's so, yes, yes.
00:13:34
Natalie Richards
You have the somovetics. So i was like, okay, this is perfection.
00:13:36
Felicia Devine
yes
00:13:39
Felicia Devine
It is. So it basically sits on top of your somavetic. I don't even know if I say it right. Somavetic? Somavetic?
00:13:46
Natalie Richards
i don't know.
00:13:47
Felicia Devine
It's a fancy crystal that blocks EMF.
00:13:47
Natalie Richards
Whatevs. Mm-hmm.
00:13:50
Felicia Devine
So it it blocks EMF, but then this pyramid that's like a glass, gorgeous pyramid sits on top of it. And it like triples the power of...
00:14:00
Natalie Richards
which supposedly amplifies the sum of Vedic to like go further.
00:14:03
Felicia Devine
I i was reading people's reviews, Natalie.
00:14:04
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:14:06
Natalie Richards
I, that's what I read too.
00:14:07
Felicia Devine
Their plants were coming
Minimalistic Gift-Giving and Experiences Over Items
00:14:08
Felicia Devine
back to life.
00:14:08
Natalie Richards
I know. i said I saw that too.
00:14:11
Felicia Devine
but like If you can bring a b plant a plant back from the dead with this pyramid, imagine what it can do to my myself.
00:14:17
Natalie Richards
No kidding.
00:14:18
Felicia Devine
I'm aging in reverse.
00:14:19
Natalie Richards
And then you can take it with you. Like if you wanted to bring it in the car with you or whatever, cause it charges it for a few, I don't even know how long it charges it, but I think so.
00:14:21
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. Yes. I think it charges it for a few days from what I read.
00:14:29
Natalie Richards
I think so too.
00:14:29
Felicia Devine
um So when it sits on your Soma Vedic, it basically like absorbs the like frequency of the blocking power, like EMF blocking power.
00:14:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:37
Felicia Devine
So you can like bring it on a ah road trip because our cars are just chocked. I mean, I don't even drive an electric car, but the Bluetooth is like chocked full.
00:14:43
Natalie Richards
No. The Bluetooth is really what is what the problem is. And everything is Bluetooth.
00:14:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:50
Natalie Richards
like
00:14:50
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:14:51
Natalie Richards
it And to even turn it off on your phone is like you have to go through 20 steps just to to fully turn it off.
00:14:52
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:14:54
Felicia Devine
Right. Yes. Well, and then wherever you're going, you're going to be with a wifi router or like 5G.
00:14:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:02
Felicia Devine
So this thing, and I saved the box cause I read that you're supposed to save the box that comes in.
00:15:02
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:15:06
Felicia Devine
It comes in this beautiful blue, like fancy cardboard box, like fancy box.
00:15:07
Natalie Richards
oh
00:15:10
Natalie Richards
ah Oh.
00:15:11
Felicia Devine
um So that's what you would like put it in if you need it, just like put it in a bag.
00:15:15
Natalie Richards
I see.
00:15:17
Felicia Devine
But it's just gorgeous. People say like, if they're anxious, they like grab it off their Sumo Vedic and they put it on their chest.
00:15:23
Natalie Richards
For sure. for sure.
00:15:25
Felicia Devine
I need to try that. I need to put it on my head.
00:15:27
Natalie Richards
i need that right now.
00:15:29
Felicia Devine
need to sit on my head and take a nap.
00:15:31
Natalie Richards
I need it to be attached to my body at all times right now.
00:15:35
Felicia Devine
I'm like, hopefully should you get a new necklace? Yes, I did.
00:15:36
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:15:37
Felicia Devine
just put it on a chain. Oh, it's lovely. So thank you.
00:15:40
Natalie Richards
whom Of course. You're welcome.
00:15:42
Felicia Devine
You're a very good gift getter.
00:15:43
Natalie Richards
Well, we are both – well, we just know each other.
00:15:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. See, Natalie is the only one that probably got me anything that I didn't put on my list.
00:15:49
Natalie Richards
think it's really what it comes down to.
00:15:53
Natalie Richards
There we go. who
00:15:55
Felicia Devine
Because I make this very comprehensive list for my husband.
00:15:58
Natalie Richards
Do you?
00:15:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Because he doesn't know what I'm into.
00:16:00
Natalie Richards
See, I don't – yeah.
00:16:01
Felicia Devine
Like, I'm into dark corners of the internet of wellness stuff that he's never heard of.
00:16:02
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:16:05
Natalie Richards
Absolutely. Absolutely. As much as I love to give gifts, I actually like don't love to receive them.
00:16:08
Felicia Devine
um Yeah.
00:16:14
Felicia Devine
What?
00:16:14
Natalie Richards
i i do from like like when it's a really real thoughtful gift, right?
00:16:20
Felicia Devine
Gift. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:22
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:16:23
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:16:24
Natalie Richards
But I don't want another thing. Like I don't want another like
00:16:27
Felicia Devine
Or a pair of fuzzy socks.
00:16:29
Natalie Richards
Right. So it's like, just don't. Like, I'm good.
00:16:32
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:16:33
Natalie Richards
I'm good. i want So Kyle and I are going – actually, Kyle is an amazing gift giver.
00:16:33
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:16:37
Felicia Devine
Is he?
00:16:38
Natalie Richards
he usually like He usually figures out something where it would be like, oh, I would have never even told you to get me that. But he does ah he actually does a really good job.
00:16:45
Felicia Devine
I love that.
00:16:47
Natalie Richards
But I don't want him to spend – like, I want to go on a trip.
00:16:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:16:51
Natalie Richards
You know, like I want to I want something, but I don't want it to be just like another thing that I then have to find a place for, I think is what it what it really is.
00:16:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right.
00:17:01
Natalie Richards
Where I'm like, I'm becoming a little more trying to be more minimal and I just don't want more things.
00:17:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:07
Felicia Devine
Right. I get that.
00:17:08
Felicia Devine
I totally get that.
00:17:08
Natalie Richards
So it's like, okay, what is something thoughtful that's like not more things, you know?
00:17:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Now, who gives you gifts? Do you get gifts from Kyle's family and your family, or do you guys not do gifts?
00:17:20
Natalie Richards
It depends. um My mom is also kind of that same way. She's like – she's kind – she is a thoughtful gift giver, but sometimes she just does she just doesn't.
00:17:26
Felicia Devine
Oh, is she? Is Anita?
00:17:33
Felicia Devine
She is.
00:17:35
Natalie Richards
Sometimes ah she like doesn't want to spend the money I think is what it is. She just like – for the same reason, it's kind of like why?
00:17:40
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:17:44
Natalie Richards
like she'd rather like go do something or give us –
00:17:44
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah. And they take you guys on trips and you guys go to the lake and yeah.
00:17:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. So like that – right. So it's not really – like they do so much other stuff. I'm like, I don't need a gift from you.
00:17:53
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:55
Natalie Richards
So we barely even do like a gift exchange for the adults.
00:17:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:58
Natalie Richards
Like with my family, we do – for the kids.
00:17:59
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:18:03
Felicia Devine
okay
00:18:03
Natalie Richards
We get stuff for the kids. And then that's pretty much that's pretty much it. Then Kyle's family, um i kind of wish we didn't do it for the adults because, again, it's kind of the same thing.
00:18:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
Family Traditions and Unique Gift Exchanges
00:18:14
Natalie Richards
I'm just like, we don't need to do anything. Let's just do it for the kids.
00:18:16
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah.
00:18:18
Natalie Richards
So it kind of depends on each year what we do, but.
00:18:21
Felicia Devine
So Dan's family, this stopped the generation above Dan. So like, I don't think Dan ever participated in it. Maybe he did.
00:18:28
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:18:29
Felicia Devine
I don't think he did. But this is a lovely idea. I think we're starting it next year. Don't quote me on this. I think it's called Tannenbaum. Have you heard of it So i think I think that's what it's called.
00:18:37
Natalie Richards
Okay. i mean, I've heard the the word. I just don't have a clue what that means.
00:18:42
Felicia Devine
So your family, like let's say on the Richard side, like you guys would get a big basket.
00:18:44
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:18:50
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:18:50
Felicia Devine
And then every year you can pick your order, how you do it. Like Dan's family did yeah oldest to youngest. And each year it goes, one person receives gifts from everyone.
00:19:02
Natalie Richards
Whoa.
00:19:03
Felicia Devine
So it's like all the gifts go in this Tannenbaum basket and you sit around and they wear this fun hat and they just like in 2025, it's like year of Natalie and everyone gets Natalie a gift.
00:19:14
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:19:15
Felicia Devine
And then the next year, it's the next oldest and they get the gift.
00:19:19
Felicia Devine
And then so you probably only get gifts once every 10 years, whatever, you know, how many cousins there are, like how, what the adults are.
00:19:19
Natalie Richards
Oh my.
00:19:23
Natalie Richards
Sure. Sure. Right.
00:19:27
Felicia Devine
um So I think we're going to do it with my siblings next year because we usually do secret Santa for the adults.
00:19:33
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:19:34
Felicia Devine
um So you're only getting one person a gift, but we're like, well, we're already doing one gift.
00:19:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Which is...
00:19:38
Felicia Devine
Like, let's just do it where you're only receiving every five years. Because we, like you said, like you don't need,
00:19:43
Natalie Richards
Sure. Because it's just too much. I know.
00:19:45
Felicia Devine
a bunch of stuff, but like Dan's, I think it was Dan's older cousin, something.
00:19:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:51
Felicia Devine
i don't think it ever made its way down to Dan.
00:19:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:19:53
Felicia Devine
um But if it's like five or six people, how fun.
00:19:55
Natalie Richards
That's so funny. Yeah, that's great. my my like big My mom's big side of the family with all my cousins and my grandma and everything, we would draw – like the aunts and the uncles would draw a name for the kids.
00:19:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah. okay
00:20:09
Natalie Richards
So like they weren't receiving from – yeah, yeah.
00:20:09
Felicia Devine
Oh, so one aunt uncle got a kid. Yeah.
00:20:12
Natalie Richards
Which that was good because then it's like, okay, just each kid gets like –
00:20:16
Felicia Devine
A gift.
00:20:16
Natalie Richards
a gift, which is perfect.
00:20:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:20:19
Natalie Richards
I can't imagine like everybody buying a gift for everybody. like I can't even fathom that situation.
00:20:25
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:20:26
Natalie Richards
like That would actually make me be like, what are we doing here?
00:20:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:30
Natalie Richards
This is crazy.
00:20:30
Felicia Devine
yeah Yeah.
00:20:32
Felicia Devine
We're about to have a lot more nieces and nephews in the next few years. so I think maybe that's a good idea for us of like, okay, one family is responsible for one of the the like nieces or nephews.
00:20:32
Natalie Richards
It's just much.
00:20:35
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:42
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:20:43
Felicia Devine
I think that's a good idea.
00:20:44
Natalie Richards
It's good.
00:20:44
Felicia Devine
I've got to write these things
00:20:44
Natalie Richards
It's just good.
Children's Christmas Presents and Impact
00:20:45
Felicia Devine
down because then I come to the next year and I panic buy for everyone.
00:20:45
Natalie Richards
I know. I like the, I really do like the drawing names for people.
00:20:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:51
Natalie Richards
And we've done that in my immediate family one time before too.
00:20:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:54
Felicia Devine
a
00:20:54
Natalie Richards
And then now we just said we just aren't doing anything for the adults.
00:20:56
Felicia Devine
yeah Yeah. Well, because you guys guys have kids now.
00:20:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:59
Felicia Devine
So yeah.
00:20:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:21:00
Felicia Devine
um Oh, that's lovely.
00:21:02
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I like the drawing names because then it's like you can then ask somebody like their wife or something like, what do they want?
00:21:03
Felicia Devine
then
00:21:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:09
Natalie Richards
What do they like?
00:21:10
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:21:10
Natalie Richards
What do they, i don't know.
00:21:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I have a hard time. So because we are in so many secret Santas and like, you know, my in-laws asked me what I want, what's on my list.
00:21:16
Natalie Richards
the
00:21:18
Felicia Devine
And i have such a hard time because I'm like, what if I put the same thing on all four lists? And then I get the same.
00:21:23
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:21:24
Felicia Devine
So then I'm like, okay.
00:21:25
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:21:26
Felicia Devine
So then I panic and I don't have a list.
00:21:27
Natalie Richards
i have to tell this person this and then I have to tell this person this.
00:21:30
Felicia Devine
So I don't know what I'm getting this year.
00:21:30
Natalie Richards
ah
00:21:31
Felicia Devine
I didn't give anyone a list except for my husband.
00:21:35
Natalie Richards
I just – I don't know. I don't know anything that I want to even give people a list.
00:21:39
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:21:41
Natalie Richards
Like that concept is foreign to me.
00:21:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah, my...
00:21:43
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:21:44
Felicia Devine
I'm only comfortable giving my husband a list because it's not things that are um mostly budget friendly.
00:21:50
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:21:51
Felicia Devine
You know, it's like, i want a water purifier.
00:21:52
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:21:54
Felicia Devine
I'm not going to tell my sister-in-law that.
00:21:54
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:21:57
Natalie Richards
Correct.
00:21:57
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:21:59
Natalie Richards
Exactly.
00:21:59
Felicia Devine
Like, that's wild behavior.
00:22:00
Natalie Richards
There's certain things where it's like, exactly. You have to have certain things that are like $50 and below, you know?
00:22:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. But like, and and then I just, I'm like, I don't need it.
00:22:07
Natalie Richards
I know. i don't want anything I know. are we doing?
00:22:10
Felicia Devine
I don't need it
00:22:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:22:12
Felicia Devine
We don't need things. I just, I need, yeah.
00:22:13
Natalie Richards
ah know and that's the whole the whole thing
00:22:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:17
Natalie Richards
what are we doing
00:22:18
Felicia Devine
I know. So, okay. So next year we're doing Tannenbaum for siblings. And then I like the idea of buying for one niece or nephew.
00:22:23
Natalie Richards
That's funny. Yeah.
00:22:27
Felicia Devine
I love that.
00:22:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It's just you don't – nobody needs all this stuff.
00:22:28
Felicia Devine
Okay. Simple.
00:22:31
Natalie Richards
And it's just become so consumer-ism.
00:22:31
Felicia Devine
No.
00:22:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:36
Natalie Richards
I end up doing like a clothing item for my nieces and nephews and then like maybe a game and maybe like one little toy.
00:22:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
00:22:45
Natalie Richards
So i never I don't do like tons of toys. But like Kyle's family will get – like his dad got Gene like five different major toys last year.
00:22:56
Natalie Richards
And I'm just like this is too much.
00:22:57
Felicia Devine
Oh, oh. Last year I said no gifts.
00:22:59
Natalie Richards
Too much. Like just for his expectations. Like I don't want him to just think that's normal.
00:23:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah, right. think every Christmas he's getting, yeah, a million gifts.
00:23:07
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:23:08
Felicia Devine
Last Christmas, Sep was seven months old and I said no gifts for any, like in-laws, no.
00:23:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:23:14
Felicia Devine
Like each, like my in-laws got him like a little tiny pet shop that was like blocks. And then my mom got him silicone stacking cups.
00:23:20
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:23:22
Felicia Devine
But I literally was like, that's it.
00:23:24
Natalie Richards
That's it. Right.
00:23:25
Felicia Devine
This year we blew the top off. What did we do? we... we
00:23:33
Felicia Devine
Natalie, not good.
00:23:35
Natalie Richards
Not good. I know.
00:23:36
Felicia Devine
Not good.
00:23:36
Natalie Richards
I did the same thing. I'm like, why do I have so many things for my son to give him?
00:23:38
Felicia Devine
What is our problem?
00:23:42
Felicia Devine
Literally, I give him life.
00:23:44
Natalie Richards
i even took I
Children's Preferences and Holiday Events
00:23:45
Natalie Richards
even took like some things away and I'm like, I'll save these.
00:23:47
Felicia Devine
I'm going to put the bows on my boobies.
00:23:49
Natalie Richards
Literally.
00:23:50
Felicia Devine
I'm the gift.
00:23:52
Natalie Richards
Literally. Okay.
00:23:53
Felicia Devine
I'm on tap.
00:23:53
Natalie Richards
So what are you, what are you doing for SEP this year?
00:23:54
Felicia Devine
I'm like kombucha on tap. Okay, so he is just like Mr. Rambunctious, rough and tumble, ride a bike, wear a helmet.
00:24:05
Felicia Devine
I didn't get him, I don't think I got him any toys. I got him, well, my parents got him a jumping castle.
00:24:14
Felicia Devine
Like a full size jumping castle.
00:24:16
Natalie Richards
Where is that going?
00:24:18
Felicia Devine
Well, we measured. um It's going in my basement for the winter and then it's going outside in the summer. Um...
00:24:26
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:24:28
Felicia Devine
My husband got him a motorcycle helmet, like a BMX full face helmet.
00:24:31
Natalie Richards
Okay, sure.
00:24:32
Felicia Devine
um Cause they like ride bikes together.
00:24:34
Natalie Richards
And those are, like, useful. that Like, that's cool.
00:24:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:37
Natalie Richards
Fine.
00:24:37
Felicia Devine
Everything, everything's useful.
00:24:38
Natalie Richards
Awesome.
00:24:38
Felicia Devine
We got him an indoor slackline board.
00:24:43
Natalie Richards
Oh, yes.
00:24:43
Felicia Devine
Have you seen those? Yeah.
00:24:45
Natalie Richards
Yes, I have.
00:24:47
Felicia Devine
Very cool. So Dan's been playing on it since it arrived.
00:24:47
Natalie Richards
They're cool.
00:24:50
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, I'm like, Giuseppe's going to like walk in and see this.
00:24:50
Natalie Richards
Of course. ah Right.
00:24:53
Felicia Devine
It's super cool, but I think it's going to be fun for everyone. um Oh, like a sensory swing, like for for kids with disabilities.
00:25:01
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. who hu absolutely All kids would love that.
00:25:03
Felicia Devine
But I'm like, Steph would love this. So I wrapped the swing, but I'm leaving out the hook because I'm making my dad hang that somewhere before Christmas.
00:25:11
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. So that you can just like pop it right up there.
00:25:13
Felicia Devine
So you could just be like, oh, Steph, look.
00:25:15
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:25:15
Felicia Devine
Santa came and hung a hook.
00:25:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:25:17
Felicia Devine
um So all like gross motor. And then I got him um like an organic Play-Doh set with tools.
00:25:24
Natalie Richards
perfect.
00:25:24
Felicia Devine
So, yeah.
00:25:25
Natalie Richards
Gene loves Play-Doh. He loves it.
00:25:27
Felicia Devine
Sep all a sudden loves it.
00:25:30
Natalie Richards
He could play with it for hours. His little dinosaurs go in it, like he his cars.
00:25:32
Felicia Devine
Literally. Yes. I brought out the cookie cutters.
00:25:36
Natalie Richards
Yep. Cookie cutters and play.
00:25:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:25:37
Natalie Richards
I mean, it's the best, the best.
00:25:39
Felicia Devine
It's lovely. Yeah.
00:25:40
Natalie Richards
And it it's not, that it doesn't have to be that messy.
00:25:41
Felicia Devine
So I did that, but no.
00:25:44
Natalie Richards
Like it's, it depends on the kid.
00:25:45
Felicia Devine
Well, I don't have a kid that puts everything in his mouth.
00:25:48
Natalie Richards
Correct. I don't either. Yeah.
00:25:49
Felicia Devine
So, Plato's a lovely activity because it's not it's not a mouth activity.
00:25:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah. We do not have what a lot of people have.
00:25:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:25:57
Felicia Devine
I was talking to Dr. Taylor about this the other day. we were like, it's wild to think that like some kids put everything in their mouth. Like we, Taylor and I don't have that kid. And so like, I'll be like loading the dishwasher and Steph's playing with Play-Doh.
00:26:11
Felicia Devine
And I like, don't have to like, no.
00:26:13
Natalie Richards
To worry that he's going to be eating it. No.
00:26:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:15
Natalie Richards
It's great.
00:26:16
Felicia Devine
it's It's just like, some people have that problem.
00:26:17
Natalie Richards
It's really quite amazing.
00:26:19
Felicia Devine
Trust me, I have plenty of problems with my kid, but eating every object isn't that.
00:26:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:26:23
Natalie Richards
Eating things is not it.
00:26:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:24
Natalie Richards
I know. Gene would like go around and see like one little speck on the floor and he'd pick it up and he'd go, this needs to go somewhere. Like he just would like notice it and say here.
00:26:31
Felicia Devine
No, Natalie. Yes. Accepted that this morning. He does that all the time.
00:26:37
Natalie Richards
It's so funny.
00:26:38
Felicia Devine
There was a, there was like a little black speck of something on the staircase and he's going down the stairs with my mom. He had to stop the production, pick up this little black thing.
00:26:48
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, yeah, he's, he's telling me this didn't get cleaned well enough.
00:26:51
Natalie Richards
Exactly. Hello. Somebody's not doing their job.
00:26:54
Felicia Devine
Somebody missed this crumb. So, and he didn't put it in his mouth.
00:26:57
Natalie Richards
So awful. Oh my gosh.
00:26:59
Felicia Devine
So he'll go throw it away. It's lovely.
00:27:02
Natalie Richards
ah I think those sound like great gifts for him for like where he's at right now.
00:27:03
Felicia Devine
um Yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah. And then, oh, I got him.
00:27:08
Natalie Richards
That's kind of what I've done in the past.
00:27:09
Felicia Devine
I did get him one toy, a bath toy. it this There's bubble, silicone bubble things.
00:27:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh. I know what you're talking about.
00:27:15
Felicia Devine
You like dunk it and it's like it like gurgles and then you can squirt the water out of them um and that they're different sizes so they have different noises.
00:27:16
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:27:20
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I love that.
00:27:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah, so the one toy.
00:27:24
Natalie Richards
Love it. And that's for the bath. It's fine.
00:27:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:27
Natalie Richards
Fine, fine, fine.
00:27:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Would you get Mr. Jean?
00:27:29
Natalie Richards
um So i have been – tend to like get my gifts over the course of like multiple months because in like September I start thinking like, oh, you know, I could start thinking about this like for this particular person or for Jean or whatever.
00:27:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:44
Natalie Richards
So I have got – I have accumulated a lot over the last few months.
00:27:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:48
Felicia Devine
yeah Where do you put it? Like, where's your where's your little gift storage center?
00:27:51
Natalie Richards
I had this huge box, like a mass, I don't even know what was in it that got delivered to me, but it was like a huge shipping box.
00:27:57
Felicia Devine
Oh, like shipping box.
00:27:59
Natalie Richards
And I was like, oh, perfect.
00:28:00
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:28:01
Natalie Richards
So I just ended up, I was like, oh, we'll just throw everything in the box.
00:28:02
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:28:05
Natalie Richards
so throw everything in the box, throw everything in the box.
00:28:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yes.
00:28:08
Natalie Richards
Two weeks ago, I go to open the box and I go, oh my goodness, the box is full.
00:28:11
Felicia Devine
Oh, no. The box is full.
00:28:17
Natalie Richards
And then Kyle ended up getting Jean like a custom skateboard that has like gator's face on it.
00:28:24
Felicia Devine
No!
00:28:25
Natalie Richards
It's so cute.
00:28:26
Felicia Devine
You're gonna have to share a picture with me.
00:28:27
Natalie Richards
I will. It is cute.
00:28:28
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:28:29
Natalie Richards
I just wrapped it last night, so I can't share yet.
00:28:30
Felicia Devine
Oh. Yeah.
00:28:31
Natalie Richards
But once it's opened, it's so cute.
00:28:33
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:28:35
Natalie Richards
So that that's an extra. And then I got him like a couple games. I got him this like fishing game.
00:28:39
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:28:41
Natalie Richards
It's like a magnetic, magnetic like fish game.
00:28:41
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:28:44
Natalie Richards
picker game.
00:28:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah.
00:28:45
Natalie Richards
um i got him snowshoes because and that's just what we're going to do.
00:28:50
Felicia Devine
He just needs snowshoes.
00:28:51
Natalie Richards
He just needs – they're like the cutest little like real metal snowshoes that look – I mean, they're legitimate and they'll hold him up to 100 pounds, but like they're so cute.
00:28:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:28:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:29:02
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:29:02
Natalie Richards
They're so cute.
00:29:04
Felicia Devine
That's lovely.
00:29:05
Natalie Richards
um And then what else? ah Okay. This kid is – he's obsessed with dinosaurs.
00:29:11
Felicia Devine
so I could have told you that.
00:29:12
Natalie Richards
like obsessed. And this is a different, exactly.
00:29:14
Felicia Devine
The first ride we did at Disney, he immediately went back into the gift shop and had to get a dinosaur.
00:29:21
Natalie Richards
And he goes,
00:29:21
Felicia Devine
And he didn't let go of it the entire Disney day.
00:29:24
Natalie Richards
nope. This kid knows every name. He knows every sound that the dinosaur makes.
00:29:27
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:29:30
Natalie Richards
He knows everything about the dinosaur. He goes, oh, that one spits goo. And he goes like, and I'm like, oh, okay.
00:29:35
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:29:37
Natalie Richards
And he'll they'll say, oh, that's a Parasaurolophus.
00:29:37
Felicia Devine
and
00:29:40
Natalie Richards
I'm like, I didn't even know what that was called before this.
00:29:43
Felicia Devine
I didn't, I don't, I don't know more than five dinosaur names.
00:29:45
Natalie Richards
This kid knows his dinosaurs. And
00:29:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:29:48
Natalie Richards
So he, he takes his little hand and he pretends to call Santa. He like holds his hand backwards on his, on his ear and he goes, uh, Santa elves. Uh, I would like a yellow remote control car and a robot dinosaur and
00:30:07
Felicia Devine
like, Santa has okay?
00:30:09
Natalie Richards
it yeah i have a direct line to Santa.
00:30:11
Felicia Devine
No snail mail for Santa. He has 5G.
00:30:15
Natalie Richards
so And he did go up and see Santa one time. So he told Santa that he wanted um the remote control like car, yellow, yellow specifically, and a remote control or like robot dinosaur.
00:30:18
Felicia Devine
Did he?
00:30:24
Felicia Devine
Okay, okay. Oh, hopefully it doesn't come blue.
00:30:30
Natalie Richards
So I had actually already purchased a robot dinosaur, could you even...
00:30:30
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:30:34
Felicia Devine
Had you really?
00:30:36
Natalie Richards
could you even?
00:30:36
Felicia Devine
Because you're Santa.
00:30:36
Natalie Richards
I go, it's amazing. and then I've got like a little yellow ram remote remote control car. But then i also got him like magnet tiles that are dinosaur themed.
00:30:47
Natalie Richards
At one point throughout the months, I got him...
00:30:47
Felicia Devine
Ooh. Yeah.
00:30:52
Natalie Richards
um Oh, at Costco, he saw this massive dinosaur that he really wanted me to buy for him and I didn't. And i said, we'll put it on your Christmas list.
00:30:59
Felicia Devine
what What was it? Like a toy?
00:31:01
Natalie Richards
We'll send it to Santa. It's like a huge dinosaur toy and it eats it eats up little dinosaurs.
00:31:05
Felicia Devine
okay
00:31:11
Natalie Richards
Which I was like, okay, you can help me clean then.
00:31:12
Felicia Devine
then Yeah, it picks up other dinosaurs.
00:31:13
Natalie Richards
That's fine. That's fine. It picks up all your little things that are but on the floor.
00:31:17
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:31:18
Natalie Richards
So I go, okay, fine. um
00:31:20
Felicia Devine
So you went back to Costco and got it.
00:31:22
Natalie Richards
I went back to Costco and got that at one point when I wasn't with him.
00:31:23
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah.
00:31:26
Natalie Richards
Which is hard to do these days.
00:31:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:28
Natalie Richards
um What else? There's like a couple other like useful things.
00:31:32
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:31:32
Natalie Richards
Like little dinosaur cars that are going to be in his stocking. and So he has definitely more toy toys than I would have preferred.
00:31:36
Felicia Devine
okay
00:31:40
Felicia Devine
yeah What should I put in Giuseppe's stocking?
00:31:42
Natalie Richards
But...
00:31:46
Natalie Richards
I did – trying to remember what I did for him last year.
00:31:47
Felicia Devine
I mean, he's a baby, so should I just not?
00:31:50
Natalie Richards
Any like little – I did like little fidgety things for Gene last year, i think in his stocking.
00:31:55
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:31:58
Natalie Richards
um Like crayons. Like you could put anything. Like little.
00:32:02
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:32:02
Natalie Richards
Just like something silly.
00:32:03
Felicia Devine
Okay. Like arts and crafts?
00:32:04
Natalie Richards
ah Yeah.
00:32:05
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:32:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to do anything if you don't want to.
00:32:08
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:32:09
Natalie Richards
This year you don't have to do anything.
00:32:09
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I know.
00:32:11
Natalie Richards
He won't remember. Yeah.
00:32:12
Felicia Devine
Did he sit on Santa's lap?
00:32:13
Natalie Richards
He saw Santa this year just standing.
00:32:17
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:32:17
Natalie Richards
Yes, he did not want to go up to the sitting Santa.
00:32:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:32:21
Natalie Richards
But last year he was into it. He was like, Santa.
00:32:25
Felicia Devine
Oh, Santa.
00:32:26
Natalie Richards
He loved it. Yeah, he loved it.
00:32:27
Felicia Devine
Okay. So guess what we did last night?
00:32:30
Natalie Richards
Oh, boy.
00:32:31
Felicia Devine
We went to this place called Christmas on the Mountain.
00:32:33
Natalie Richards
oh.
00:32:34
Felicia Devine
It was lovely. It was honestly a gorgeous night, beautiful sunset.
00:32:35
Natalie Richards
oh
00:32:38
Felicia Devine
We were on this like mountain in our city. I'm describing this very poorly.
00:32:43
Natalie Richards
A mountain in your city.
00:32:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So it's called Mount Penn and it's where the pagoda is.
00:32:47
Natalie Richards
It's like a little...
00:32:49
Felicia Devine
It's like the iconic like city of Reading thing.
00:32:50
Natalie Richards
oh okay.
00:32:54
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:32:54
Felicia Devine
um But there's this playground on the mountain. So you're like on this hillside and this playground is kind of like
Awkward Interactions and Mistaken Identities
00:33:00
Felicia Devine
tiered.
00:33:00
Natalie Richards
Oh, cool.
00:33:01
Felicia Devine
I don't know what organization. I should have done more reading when I was there. But this organization takes over the playground for the whole month of December, I believe.
00:33:10
Natalie Richards
Wow. Wow.
00:33:10
Felicia Devine
And they wrap this thing with trillions of lights. Like,
00:33:15
Natalie Richards
That's cool.
00:33:16
Felicia Devine
Every particle of metal on a playground is triple wrapped with lights. You can't even see the metal.
00:33:22
Natalie Richards
Isn't that amazing? oh my gosh.
00:33:24
Felicia Devine
It's phenomenal. And every equipment, like,
00:33:27
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:33:27
Felicia Devine
You clearly can't use it. It's just for display.
00:33:29
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:33:30
Felicia Devine
But then they do all these pop-ups. So like they did like all the playgrounds were like covered. Every fence line was floor to ceiling light.
00:33:39
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:33:39
Felicia Devine
It was incredible. And then they have like different themes as you're walking through the playground. So they had this whole Grinch Whoville scene and we're like, oh, let's go like walk through there. Well, you walk into this little Whoville house and the Grinch was there.
00:33:53
Felicia Devine
Like a full-on like
00:33:54
Natalie Richards
What did Sep think of the Grinch?
00:33:56
Felicia Devine
Okay, so Sep was like not about it. Sep was in a full bunting. Like he was not getting out of it. I was not taking him out of the stroller because like it was very cold and I was like, you don't need to.
00:34:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah. No, no.
00:34:06
Felicia Devine
So like we walked up to the Grinch and like I turned him around and the Grinch like held the stroller. And then Dan and I stood by the Grinch. And then I was like, oh we'll switch and have my parents stand with the Grinch and Sep.
00:34:16
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:34:20
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:34:21
Felicia Devine
Well, I turned around and walked away. The Grinch started tickling Giuseppe with his long finger on the face.
00:34:26
Natalie Richards
Ew, like the little fur.
00:34:27
Felicia Devine
Sep literally was like, like could not have wanted to be out of there more.
00:34:28
Natalie Richards
Poor
00:34:32
Felicia Devine
I was like, I'm sorry.
00:34:33
Natalie Richards
boy. That's terrible.
00:34:33
Felicia Devine
Hey, you're trapped in this bunting. You can't even use your arms.
00:34:35
Natalie Richards
Okay. poor boy
00:34:37
Felicia Devine
in the And the Grinch was tickling him. I felt so sad.
00:34:40
Natalie Richards
that's terrible
00:34:40
Felicia Devine
i was like, I shouldn't turned my back. So then, and there was a line for Santa.
00:34:44
Natalie Richards
oh
00:34:46
Felicia Devine
And I said, no, Santa. We're not doing Santa. then there was there was another area for Frozen.
00:34:54
Natalie Richards
okay
00:34:54
Felicia Devine
and it was in this white blow-up house. Like, you know, those inflatable, like, um it was huge. It was like, like, you would almost put like, yeah.
00:35:02
Natalie Richards
like a bubble thing.
00:35:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah, kind of.
00:35:04
Natalie Richards
Is that what it is?
00:35:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it was like a white giant tent, but it was like blow up.
00:35:05
Natalie Richards
Okay. okay Yeah.
00:35:09
Felicia Devine
and It's hard to explain. So you like walk in and there's five or six huge Frozen characters. Like they were basically mascots.
00:35:17
Natalie Richards
Oh my.
00:35:20
Felicia Devine
They were in like mascot costumes.
00:35:21
Natalie Richards
They're like life size. Okay.
00:35:23
Felicia Devine
Gigantic cartoon Frozen characters. Not like a real life Anna like or Anna.
00:35:29
Natalie Richards
Oh, like Olaf. Uh-huh. Like Olaf the and like a...
00:35:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah, no, like Frozen.
00:35:34
Felicia Devine
Like they were mascot version. It was crazy.
00:35:35
Natalie Richards
I see. Okay.
00:35:36
Felicia Devine
it was terrifying.
00:35:36
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:35:37
Felicia Devine
But Daphne loves Frozen. So I was like, we'll go with them. But I kept stepping in the corner because I was like, he wants nothing to do with this.
00:35:47
Felicia Devine
wanted nothing to do with like standing next to them being with them but um so we did that and then it was just like so it was so like cool but it was free free parking and free access to this place and they were like shooting fake snow in the air and we got hot cocoa and we walked around it was just like so lovely um but yeah so sepp didn't sit and say in santa's lap but he got tickled by the grinch so
00:35:57
Natalie Richards
That's awesome.
00:36:02
Natalie Richards
That's so fun.
00:36:06
Natalie Richards
Cute. I love it.
00:36:13
Natalie Richards
Poor guy. He's never going want to watch that movie ever.
00:36:15
Felicia Devine
No. Oh, it was so sad.
00:36:17
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:36:18
Felicia Devine
and honestly, I told Dan, I was like, that Grinch had like the weirdest um behavior.
00:36:22
Natalie Richards
ill ill
00:36:25
Felicia Devine
Like he looked like he didn't want to be there, but not in a Grinch way. Like he looked like he was just like not really caring.
00:36:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:36:32
Felicia Devine
And then Dan's like, well, you don't also want him to do too much because then that would actually be scary.
00:36:37
Natalie Richards
Totally. And you don't know with the kids.
00:36:38
Felicia Devine
But I was like, he just like was awkward maybe? i don't know.
00:36:42
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:36:43
Felicia Devine
it was weird. And like...
00:36:45
Natalie Richards
He didn't know how to be mascot.
00:36:46
Felicia Devine
No, I was like, he was not a a trained professional. Like, honestly.
00:36:49
Natalie Richards
ah
00:36:50
Felicia Devine
And that's the problem with these places you go to, like, sit on Santa's lap.
00:36:53
Natalie Richards
Oh, I know.
00:36:54
Felicia Devine
We're not getting to look at their background check. You don't know.
00:36:56
Natalie Richards
This is true.
00:36:57
Felicia Devine
Are they a pedophile? Are they a registered sex offender?
00:36:58
Natalie Richards
It's true. It's true.
00:37:00
Felicia Devine
Because, like, this wasn't even, like, I mean, I guess it was sanctioned. But, like, you don't even pay to go. Like, I don't know who these people are.
00:37:05
Natalie Richards
It's true.
00:37:07
Felicia Devine
Who is tickling my son?
00:37:08
Natalie Richards
You don't really know.
00:37:09
Felicia Devine
That's crazy. should have ripped his mask off and punched him in the head.
00:37:13
Natalie Richards
Thankfully, it was just the costume.
00:37:15
Felicia Devine
I know. what But I'm like... OK.
00:37:18
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. This reminds me of something.
00:37:19
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:37:22
Natalie Richards
And I have to remember the full story. Okay.
00:37:24
Felicia Devine
opening
00:37:24
Natalie Richards
We were last, it was last year. It was like almost a full year ago. We went to this bar. It was like a, like a restaurant bar kind of thing with a couple of our other other friends who have a son about Jean's age and and there was this old crusty man who was just like, he's like coming by them to go to the bathroom.
00:37:46
Natalie Richards
Like they're playing with these little ducks that they won from the the arcade game or whatever. They're like the plastic little duckies.
00:37:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah,
00:37:54
Natalie Richards
And he's like, oh, look at these kids. It's so fun and blah, blah, blah, blah. blah And he literally like I forget what he did, but he like he like put his finger like somewhere, like something touched Gene or like went in his mouth or something.
00:38:12
Natalie Richards
I forget like what it really was, but it was like one of those like you can't – like you're seeing this happen and you just are like, oh.
00:38:15
Felicia Devine
No.
00:38:17
Felicia Devine
You couldn't stop it. Yeah.
00:38:22
Natalie Richards
Like I couldn't – I can't even remember what it really was.
00:38:24
Felicia Devine
Like what if he had drugs on his hand?
00:38:25
Natalie Richards
Exactly. Like it was really bad. was really bad.
00:38:29
Felicia Devine
Did Kyle see it?
00:38:31
Natalie Richards
Kyle wasn't even there. It was just like me and my friends.
00:38:32
Felicia Devine
Thank God.
00:38:34
Natalie Richards
And it was just like the weirdest interaction that you don't even know that you need to prepare yourself for because who the heck would ever touch somebody else's like child, literal baby?
00:38:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:44
Felicia Devine
Child, baby.
00:38:46
Natalie Richards
you like –
00:38:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh, that makes me so uncomfortable. I know. Ugh, I hate that for you.
00:38:53
Natalie Richards
um
00:38:54
Felicia Devine
Because, like, what if what if he had, like, drugs on his hand and then Gene, like, passed out?
00:38:54
Natalie Richards
and you like I know. Or anything like a disease.
00:38:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:02
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:39:02
Felicia Devine
True. Yeah.
00:39:03
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:39:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Ugh, I'm sorry.
00:39:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It was very, very, very weird.
00:39:06
Felicia Devine
hate that.
00:39:07
Natalie Richards
But he was really just like an old grandpa probably, but he was drunk and like just crust.
00:39:12
Felicia Devine
Ew, ew, ew.
00:39:13
Natalie Richards
It was the it horrible.
00:39:15
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:39:15
Natalie Richards
Horrible. Constantly.
00:39:16
Felicia Devine
Giuseppe keeps getting called a girl still. I know we've talked about this before, but he was decked out in a blue sweatsuit with a blue beanie on and gray shoes.
00:39:21
Natalie Richards
Constantly.
00:39:26
Felicia Devine
And this guy was like at Costco, he was like, she's so beautiful. And I was like, got to bang my head on this cart. And then he goes, oh, wait, like he corrected himself. Cause I was like, I was about to say, and I think I ended up saying like, he is beautiful, but
00:39:36
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:39:41
Felicia Devine
And he was like, oh, wait, he's a boy.
00:39:44
Natalie Richards
ah
00:39:44
Felicia Devine
He's wearing blue. And I said, thank you.
00:39:45
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:39:46
Felicia Devine
And he's like, I have a grandson. I should know. He's he's he's about to be one.
00:39:50
Natalie Richards
And some kids just look beautiful and they just have, yes.
00:39:50
Felicia Devine
I should know. And I'm like, thank you for correcting yourself because she is gorgeous. I have a gorgeous baby. And I'm like, sorry, Giuseppe. But I'm like, i can I don't even dress him like borderline, is that a girl?
00:40:00
Natalie Richards
Who cares? You won't know.
00:40:05
Felicia Devine
Like he wears blue all the time.
00:40:05
Natalie Richards
No, like it's a boy.
00:40:07
Natalie Richards
who
00:40:09
Felicia Devine
He looks great in blue, you know?
00:40:11
Natalie Richards
i love Jean in blue. i
00:40:13
Felicia Devine
Yes. oh
00:40:13
Natalie Richards
Blue, teal.
00:40:15
Felicia Devine
Oh, I know.
00:40:16
Natalie Richards
ah Oh God, I just love it.
00:40:18
Felicia Devine
I just love it.
00:40:19
Natalie Richards
And that's where I think, I don't know if it's like the teal that gets people or what.
00:40:19
Felicia Devine
then
00:40:24
Natalie Richards
I don't know what it is, but people are still to this day.
00:40:26
Felicia Devine
I don't know. I honestly think it's their blonde curls.
00:40:28
Natalie Richards
He's three and a half it's It is the blonde curls. it's Because most boys at that age then don't have long hair.
00:40:32
Felicia Devine
And I don't know why.
00:40:35
Natalie Richards
Most most boys don't.
00:40:36
Felicia Devine
No. True.
00:40:37
Natalie Richards
So I get it.
00:40:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:38
Natalie Richards
I get it.
00:40:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:39
Natalie Richards
But I'm not cutting Jean's hair. It's not happening.
00:40:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah. oh I really want to give Sep like a fade. So his mullet comes in a little harder because Danny has a mullet.
00:40:46
Natalie Richards
Like a modern a modern mullet. Mm-hmm. Kyle does too.
00:40:50
Felicia Devine
I'm like, oh, I love it.
00:40:51
Natalie Richards
I know. Mm-hmm. No.
00:40:53
Felicia Devine
love it. And I'm like, okay, if I were to cut Sep's hair, I'm not cutting any length off the top or the back. I just would trim the ears up on a fade.
00:40:59
Natalie Richards
No. Just around, yeah.
00:41:03
Felicia Devine
So cute. I'm like, can I do that myself?
00:41:04
Natalie Richards
Do it.
00:41:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:06
Natalie Richards
If he would allow you, that's the problem.
00:41:08
Felicia Devine
Well, I would have to probably do it when he's eating because he's a very good eater.
00:41:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:41:13
Felicia Devine
Like he'll sit in a high chair and he'll use his utensils and he like eats.
00:41:15
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. He'll be distracted enough and sit there.
00:41:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah, like he eats. um So I could probably do that. i I wouldn't want to do it with like music because he dances.
00:41:26
Natalie Richards
Oh, no. Okay.
00:41:27
Felicia Devine
So I wouldn't want to do that. But he we just started like the dancing era and it's so cute.
00:41:32
Natalie Richards
fun so cute oh
00:41:33
Felicia Devine
Oh, it's so cute. Oh, and he claps for himself when he dances and he's like, I'm so proud.
00:41:39
Natalie Richards
i love it these boys they're so precious
00:41:41
Felicia Devine
I know. I know. I love it. um Are you guys going to do any traditions for Christmas? I'm like just now thinking, like, are you guys doing like, um like, are you going to put cookies out for Santa or like carrots or reindeer?
00:41:52
Natalie Richards
Yes. Gene is already already talking about it.
00:41:55
Felicia Devine
Oh, he already knows.
00:41:55
Natalie Richards
He's already talking about his... Oh, yeah. he has it.
00:41:58
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:41:59
Natalie Richards
He's like Santa this year.
00:42:00
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay.
00:42:01
Natalie Richards
He is like, this is what we do.
00:42:01
Felicia Devine
Oh, fine. Okay.
00:42:03
Natalie Richards
Santa comes down the chimney. He goes over by our fireplace.
00:42:05
Felicia Devine
Oh, do you have a chimney?
00:42:06
Natalie Richards
We have like a wood stove, so we have a chimney.
00:42:08
Felicia Devine
Okay, so yeah.
00:42:09
Natalie Richards
Because he said that the other day. he goes, ah do we have a chimney?
00:42:14
Felicia Devine
He's like, Mom, I was reading about this. do we have a chimney?
00:42:15
Natalie Richards
but was reading... And I said, yes, we do. Remember, we have the wood stove.
00:42:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:21
Natalie Richards
and Santa comes down the wood stove and he doesn't get caught because he's Santa.
00:42:25
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:42:26
Natalie Richards
And and he is so skinny.
00:42:26
Felicia Devine
And he's so skinny.
00:42:29
Natalie Richards
and So, he yeah, we're we're good with that. And he's like, okay, yes, we're going to to put the cookies out, cookies and milk.
00:42:35
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:42:38
Felicia Devine
Oh,
00:42:38
Natalie Richards
And Kyle's like, you better have a lot of milk because he's going to be drinking it.
00:42:41
Felicia Devine
yeah. Santa's so thirsty. It better be raw.
00:42:47
Natalie Richards
you know. Oh my gosh.
00:42:48
Felicia Devine
And those reindeer need organic carrots.
00:42:49
Natalie Richards
I can't keep up with the raw milk. this
00:42:51
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:42:51
Natalie Richards
my who These two boys drink so much, just mainly Kyle. he drinks like a full 16 ounce milk, glass of milk at every meal, at every meal.
00:42:58
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:43:02
Felicia Devine
A day.
00:43:07
Felicia Devine
That's such a Midwest thing though.
00:43:09
Natalie Richards
It's so Midwest.
00:43:11
Felicia Devine
That's so Midwest.
00:43:12
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:43:12
Felicia Devine
college boyfriend did the same thing and I was perplexed. They would be like sitting down for dinner and everyone's pouring gigantic glasses of milk. And I'm like, dinner?
00:43:20
Natalie Richards
And I'm like, what is this?
00:43:22
Felicia Devine
They're like every meal we drink milk.
00:43:24
Natalie Richards
God.
00:43:25
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, huh, huh, that's odd.
00:43:27
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I buy, not even kidding you, eight half gallons a week. Eight.
00:43:38
Felicia Devine
What?
00:43:39
Natalie Richards
Eight.
00:43:39
Felicia Devine
Just get a cow, Natalie.
00:43:41
Natalie Richards
I should at this point because I'm not buying regular milk.
00:43:42
Felicia Devine
my god, that would be so cute.
Holiday Traditions and Santa Visits
00:43:45
Felicia Devine
No, you're buying raw.
00:43:45
Natalie Richards
I'm buying organic A2...
00:43:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:43:49
Natalie Richards
milk.
00:43:51
Felicia Devine
So, whoa. See, I was buying raw milk.
00:43:55
Natalie Richards
Like it's you can't even fathom the amount.
00:43:57
Felicia Devine
And we weren't we weren't going through it fast enough.
00:44:00
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:44:00
Felicia Devine
so i So I was buying Sepi homogenized.
00:44:00
Natalie Richards
How much or not?
00:44:04
Felicia Devine
I don't know why I was saying no.
00:44:04
Natalie Richards
How much or not? And that's,
00:44:06
Felicia Devine
I was buying him homogenized. so It was like gently pasteurized.
00:44:09
Natalie Richards
yeah, that's what I, that's and what I do now.
00:44:09
Felicia Devine
And then, yeah But the raw, raw, the raw, raw milk, I was buying for myself.
00:44:16
Natalie Richards
The raw, raw.
00:44:17
Felicia Devine
We couldn't go through fast enough.
00:44:18
Natalie Richards
No.
00:44:19
Felicia Devine
So
00:44:19
Natalie Richards
And Kyle won't drink it. if it's he if there's a If there's a bit of cream chunk in there, he's done. He's out.
00:44:26
Felicia Devine
Oh, wow.
00:44:27
Natalie Richards
He's out.
00:44:27
Felicia Devine
So yeah, so you got to slug it
00:44:28
Natalie Richards
I know. Yeah.
00:44:30
Felicia Devine
I know. um So yeah, we go through a lot of milk because we waste it.
00:44:37
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:44:38
Felicia Devine
Unfortunately, and it's it's wasted because we'll pour se a glass of milk or a cup of or like a bottle of milk. And he only, he doesn't really want it that much.
00:44:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah. He doesn't want it. You could make butter.
00:44:48
Felicia Devine
I mean, maybe he will when I'm done nursing.
00:44:52
Natalie Richards
No, you have to do that with cream. What can you do with milk?
00:44:54
Felicia Devine
okay.
00:44:55
Natalie Richards
You can make yogurt.
00:44:58
Felicia Devine
That sounds so time consuming.
00:45:00
Natalie Richards
It goes in like a Instant Pot. You can make yogurt in an Instant Pot.
00:45:04
Felicia Devine
Well, I didn't put that on my Christmas list.
00:45:06
Natalie Richards
Well, I don't have an Instant Pot either. But I have that new crock pot thingy that I got, the Ninja, that Ninja crock pot from Costco.
00:45:11
Felicia Devine
What? What's it do?
00:45:14
Natalie Richards
It does everything. You can sear in it.
00:45:15
Felicia Devine
What do you mean?
00:45:17
Natalie Richards
So like when you're making like a roast or something, you sear in exactly.
00:45:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Instead of using more multiple bands.
00:45:22
Natalie Richards
You sear it in there and every other one, they exist, but they're like $500. And I'm like, eh, don't need a $500 thing.
00:45:27
Felicia Devine
Oh. Yeah. Crockpot.
00:45:31
Natalie Richards
i don't need a $500 crock pot.
00:45:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:34
Natalie Richards
So it sears it in the pan, in the thing, and then you can put it on like braise or roast or slow cook or yogurt or um or bake.
00:45:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:43
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:45:44
Natalie Richards
You can bake stuff in it. Like it's crazy.
00:45:47
Felicia Devine
Okay, my crockpot's low, high, warm.
00:45:48
Natalie Richards
It's great.
00:45:51
Natalie Richards
Exactly. Exactly.
00:45:53
Felicia Devine
I don't even know what temperature those are.
00:45:55
Natalie Richards
oh
00:45:55
Felicia Devine
I couldn't even tell you what high or low is.
00:45:57
Natalie Richards
No.
00:45:58
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, let me get some bacteria off.
00:45:58
Natalie Richards
The crockpot doesn't know either.
00:46:01
Felicia Devine
We'll go high for a little. Like, I don't know what it means. I pretty much just, if I crock pot something, i annihilate it.
00:46:06
Natalie Richards
ah
00:46:09
Felicia Devine
It's mush.
00:46:10
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. You just keep going. You just keep going and going and going.
00:46:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I'm like, it's been long enough.
00:46:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:46:14
Felicia Devine
And my chicken is actually just, it's, it's now grits, chicken grits.
00:46:16
Natalie Richards
It's just... m
00:46:22
Felicia Devine
It's fully decomposed.
00:46:23
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:46:24
Felicia Devine
It's a smoothie. um and
00:46:29
Natalie Richards
I know what you're talking about.
00:46:30
Felicia Devine
ah ah Do you guys do church on Christmas?
00:46:30
Natalie Richards
That's gross.
00:46:34
Natalie Richards
I think we probably will. Well, I don't know. So this year Kyle works Christmas Eve night and Christmas day night, which kind of stinks too.
00:46:42
Felicia Devine
but And what time is night? Is it 6 p.m.?
00:46:45
Natalie Richards
No. So like two to two AM. m
00:46:48
Felicia Devine
Stop. Stop.
00:46:48
Natalie Richards
So, and Christmas Eve is like my family's big, big celebration. So
00:46:54
Felicia Devine
Well, at least he won't faint this year then.
00:46:56
Natalie Richards
No. So he won't faint. So Kyle has a history of being overwhelmed by Christmas.
00:47:00
Felicia Devine
Being a fainting goat at Christmas.
00:47:01
Natalie Richards
So he's actually okay to to miss it this year.
00:47:05
Felicia Devine
Sit this one out.
00:47:06
Natalie Richards
He's all right. Because it gets it's just it gets a little overwhelming for him. And I understand because he never had any of that when he was growing up.
00:47:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:14
Natalie Richards
So anything family, like big family and and Christmas put together is like
00:47:20
Felicia Devine
And decor.
00:47:21
Natalie Richards
a lot for him. And it's at my parents.
00:47:23
Felicia Devine
It's a lot for Kyle.
00:47:24
Natalie Richards
So it's like all of the decor.
00:47:27
Felicia Devine
doesn't your Your mom must do those like ornate large Santas.
00:47:31
Natalie Richards
Yes. But my aunt, the problem of when of when Kyle passed out at Christmas time was because we were at my aunt's house and she has 500 Santas across her house.
00:47:34
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah, your aunt goes wild.
00:47:44
Natalie Richards
Like, ah Not even kidding.
00:47:48
Felicia Devine
It's so funny.
00:47:48
Natalie Richards
and
00:47:49
Felicia Devine
Didn't he pass out multiple years though?
00:47:50
Natalie Richards
Multiple. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:56
Felicia Devine
Oh my God.
00:47:56
Natalie Richards
we're sitting We're sitting at dinner the first year.
00:47:59
Natalie Richards
And this is the first year of Christmas like with my family.
00:48:02
Felicia Devine
That he spent with you.
00:48:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:48:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:04
Natalie Richards
like It was like the first time ever. So the probably the first time he's had a Christmas like this in his entire life. And he is looking around. We're eating dinner. And he looks at me.
00:48:14
Natalie Richards
He stares at me. Like sta deer in a headlight stares. And he goes, I have to get up. Can you come? I have, I have, I have to go. i have to go. And then I go, okay, get up.
00:48:25
Felicia Devine
what Where are we going?
00:48:25
Natalie Richards
Okay. What do you mean?
00:48:27
Felicia Devine
and
00:48:28
Natalie Richards
So I follow him to the bathroom. He stands in the, in the door frame of the bathroom and he just starts just like melting, literally melting.
00:48:37
Felicia Devine
Melting.
00:48:38
Natalie Richards
I like thankfully kind of caught him as he's coming down.
00:48:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:43
Natalie Richards
So he didn't slam his head on the floor, but he was out, out, like eyes rolling back in his head.
00:48:45
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:48:48
Natalie Richards
I was go, I'm like, what is going on? but my mom is panicked.
00:48:53
Felicia Devine
Oh my god.
00:48:55
Natalie Richards
And I'm like, let's just give it a second. Hold on, hold on.
00:48:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. You're like, Kyle!
00:49:00
Natalie Richards
and So he like fully passed out.
00:49:01
Felicia Devine
Oh, wait.
00:49:03
Natalie Richards
Then the next year it was at my cousin's house, which was it kind of like equally as as as decorated in a different way.
00:49:06
Felicia Devine
On the couch.
00:49:12
Felicia Devine
Also equally as loud.
00:49:13
Natalie Richards
And he's sitting at dinner. He goes, I'm going to pass out again. I'm going to pass out. He didn't that year, but he was like,
00:49:19
Felicia Devine
But he was close.
00:49:19
Natalie Richards
He was close.
00:49:19
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah.
00:49:20
Natalie Richards
that Since then, he's gotten better, but he has had it the actual PTSD reaction Christmas.
00:49:24
Felicia Devine
He has exposure therapy to Santa's. Yeah, yeah.
00:49:29
Natalie Richards
Like a full-on allergic reaction.
00:49:30
Felicia Devine
Christmas. So he'll be fine sitting this one out.
00:49:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
Christmas Plans and Seven Fishes Dinner
00:49:33
Natalie Richards
So he's okay. and And it's okay for us too.
00:49:34
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:49:35
Natalie Richards
like I'm like, well, I'll just be with my family and it'll be fine.
00:49:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:39
Natalie Richards
And then we'll have our Christmas morning, Santa at home, and then he'll wake up for that.
00:49:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:43
Felicia Devine
Okay, and he'll wake up for that because... Okay.
00:49:46
Natalie Richards
And then he'll go to work and we'll go probably to church or to my parents' house or something. But you yeah, we usually go to church at some point.
00:49:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah. Okay. um We've never spent Christmas in Pennsylvania.
00:49:55
Natalie Richards
At some point.
00:49:58
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:50:00
Felicia Devine
know. It's quite crazy. um I actually, i will revoke that statement.
00:50:00
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:50:04
Felicia Devine
We did spend Christmas in Pennsylvania one time. It was ah the year 2021 and my parents flew out here and they were going to spend Christmas with us. And we were so excited.
00:50:15
Felicia Devine
And COVID took over the family to the point where my parents flew home on Christmas Eve because they're like, we're outie.
00:50:18
Natalie Richards
Oh no. Oh no.
00:50:25
Natalie Richards
Oh no.
00:50:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah, and then I got COVID. my Well, I was gifted COVID from a family member.
00:50:33
Natalie Richards
ah
00:50:34
Felicia Devine
They went to this lovely party in Philadelphia um where they were on a trolley with ah other people that were um injected.
00:50:46
Felicia Devine
So the fact that they all got COVID, everyone on the trolley got COVID
00:50:51
Natalie Richards
interesting
00:50:52
Felicia Devine
was quite fascinating. And then they brought it back and gave it to me. and then Dan, being the resilient immune system he is, didn't get it
00:51:03
Natalie Richards
of course of course not that's so sad oh they did oh my god
00:51:03
Felicia Devine
So Dan froliced about the holiday, going to all the family outings. I was stuck at home. My parents flew home. They ended up getting COVID when they got home. Yeah.
00:51:14
Felicia Devine
So they were flying high transmissible, you know, like it was crazy.
00:51:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:51:19
Felicia Devine
um But that was one time we did spend in Pennsylvania and I was locked inside the whole time.
00:51:20
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:51:25
Felicia Devine
So I'm i'm saying we've never done it.
00:51:25
Natalie Richards
Great. Yes, because you haven't.
00:51:27
Felicia Devine
I'm going to say we've never done it.
00:51:28
Natalie Richards
Because you haven't. You know what I feel like this year? I feel like it's the year that was pre-COVID where everything was like like a little hectic, a little too much, a little like this world needs a break
00:51:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:51:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah. We're getting ahead of ourselves.
00:51:46
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
00:51:47
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:51:48
Natalie Richards
And I'm just like really hoping and praying that something doesn't like fall onto us ah to like force us into submission like it did that time.
00:51:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:51:53
Felicia Devine
I erupt. Yeah. o
00:51:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't mind being locked in my house for another two weeks.
00:52:02
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:52:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:52:04
Natalie Richards
Just 10 days this time, okay?
00:52:06
Felicia Devine
No, I was unemployed during COVID. It was lovely.
00:52:09
Natalie Richards
ah
00:52:09
Felicia Devine
um That meant, though, I wasn't collecting unemployment because I was unemployed.
00:52:13
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:52:13
Felicia Devine
so
00:52:16
Natalie Richards
I was six months into practice.
00:52:16
Felicia Devine
Interesting.
00:52:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Ooh. Rough.
00:52:19
Natalie Richards
That was wild.
00:52:21
Natalie Richards
Wild. i hope that never happens again, but I'm just feeling like like people need to take a little breather.
00:52:22
Felicia Devine
Ooh. Yeah, same.
00:52:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what we're doing. the the breather we're taking is on christmas morning dan's family there you know how there's like the the saying on thanksgiving where it's like there's two types of families one that does 5ks and one that drinks okay dan's family they go in the creek and swim they do a cold plunge in the creek on christmas morning
00:52:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Let me guess. love that. Yeah. Yeah. i love that
00:52:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So it's grown exponentially. I honestly don't know who exactly started it. I don't know if it was Dan's uncle, John, or it was, I don't know who in the family started it, but it's now branched out to like, you know, like Dan's dad's partners and their families or like, you know, like whatever.
00:53:09
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:53:12
Felicia Devine
So I invited my employees this year to see if they wanted to come.
00:53:14
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:53:14
Felicia Devine
I don't know if anyone will come, but um yeah.
00:53:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:53:18
Felicia Devine
And that like Christmas morning like rain, shine, snow, sleet, like
00:53:18
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's so fun.
00:53:23
Felicia Devine
they jump full on in the creek, like bury their heads underwater.
00:53:25
Natalie Richards
I'm going to go do that in the pond.
00:53:27
Felicia Devine
then
00:53:28
Natalie Richards
It's, oh, oh, that's so fun.
00:53:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So they like tailgate the parking lot and then they go jump in the creek. We've never been there for it. um So that's, I'm not, I'm not.
00:53:36
Natalie Richards
So are you going to do it this year? Why? Well, you're breastfeeding.
00:53:40
Felicia Devine
Cause I'm breastfeeding and my body's already so frazzled stressed.
00:53:41
Natalie Richards
It's fine.
00:53:44
Natalie Richards
It's fine. You don't need, you don't need any more stress.
00:53:46
Felicia Devine
I think cold plunge would stress my body.
00:53:46
Natalie Richards
No. Yeah.
00:53:49
Felicia Devine
Literally all my milk ducks would just shrink up and die.
00:53:53
Natalie Richards
I would be like, more, more.
00:53:56
Felicia Devine
and I'm literally hanging out for dear life with my milk ducks.
00:53:59
Natalie Richards
oh I know.
00:53:59
Felicia Devine
So, um so I'm not going to do it, but i will go and I will tailgate.
00:54:01
Natalie Richards
Oh boy. Yeah.
00:54:04
Felicia Devine
I will hold blankets. I will, I will cheer people on and yeah.
00:54:06
Natalie Richards
Oh, that will be so fun. Yep. Just to be part of it. That sounds so fun.
00:54:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah. um What else? Oh, we do, his family also does seven fishes.
00:54:18
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. That's like a traditional Italian Christmas.
00:54:19
Felicia Devine
which I believe is, yeah, I think it's like Italian Christmas thing. So we're doing that on Christmas Eve.
00:54:24
Natalie Richards
It is. Oh, fun.
00:54:26
Felicia Devine
And this year it's at Dan's cousin's house and there's gonna be like 40 people there.
00:54:28
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay. And you do eat fish.
00:54:31
Felicia Devine
And I eat fish, but I'm not sure I'm gonna eat
00:54:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Maybe not like right.
00:54:36
Felicia Devine
spelt or smelt or splelt. I don't even know what it is.
00:54:39
Natalie Richards
so I don't know what the seven fishes are.
00:54:40
Felicia Devine
What is that? um I think they make it up. I think it's like um they're going to do some octopus and they're going to do some like, I think they're going to do, yeah, like calamari, like not all gross fish, I think.
00:54:43
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:54:46
Natalie Richards
Okay. Tuna. Okay. ah okay
00:54:53
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:54:55
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:54:55
Natalie Richards
Seven seafood dishes of some sort.
00:54:56
Felicia Devine
hello I'm going to bring sushi.
00:55:02
Felicia Devine
No, I don't know.
00:55:02
Felicia Devine
I really have no idea. So I'm almost inclined to like, should I eat before?
00:55:02
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:55:04
Natalie Richards
I dare you bring sushi.
00:55:08
Felicia Devine
I don't know. I'm nervous.
00:55:09
Natalie Richards
No, you'll find – it'll be like pasta and like – it'll be like Italian –
00:55:12
Felicia Devine
Will it? Okay.
00:55:14
Natalie Richards
fish dishes.
00:55:15
Felicia Devine
Smorgasbord.
00:55:16
Natalie Richards
It'll be really good.
00:55:17
Felicia Devine
Okay. So I guess I'll eat there. So we're doing that Christmas Eve and then we're cold plunging Christmas morning.
00:55:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:55:22
Felicia Devine
So, you know, I know.
00:55:22
Natalie Richards
I love those. That's so good. i may make Kyle do little like flower footprints, like Santa footprints this year.
00:55:30
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:55:31
Natalie Richards
i've I've seen those and I'm like, I think we should do that for Gene.
00:55:33
Felicia Devine
That's good.
00:55:34
Natalie Richards
He would die.
00:55:35
Felicia Devine
You also have to like nibble the carrots and make them just like so gnarled.
00:55:37
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. I do have to actually have to buy carrots.
00:55:41
Felicia Devine
Wait, make gator or chew on some of them.
00:55:41
Natalie Richards
Shoot. Yes. Duke will like pick up a carrot in his mouth and go andang and then he'll just drop it anyway.
00:55:46
Felicia Devine
Just leave the tails.
00:55:50
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:55:51
Natalie Richards
So I'll just have him do it.
00:55:52
Felicia Devine
Oh my god, perfect. I have to do that. love it.
00:55:56
Natalie Richards
That's so perfect.
Gator the Dog's Work and Health Issues
00:55:57
Felicia Devine
Um, speaking of Gator, I just remembered. Has Gator had any outstanding performances at work lately?
00:56:04
Natalie Richards
He just had – last night, he just had two bites. Two who bites in one night.
00:56:08
Felicia Devine
Stop! my god, I have to tell my dad.
00:56:11
Natalie Richards
kyle came Kyle came home and he was like, we had two bites. It was 2 a.m. m And he literally couldn't fall asleep because he was like, yeah, yeah.
00:56:16
Felicia Devine
I have to tell my dad. My dad's gonna be so proud of him.
00:56:19
Felicia Devine
that up? how i wouldn't even have known that.
00:56:20
Natalie Richards
i don't know. You just knew. you just knew to ask.
00:56:23
Felicia Devine
Gator.
00:56:24
Natalie Richards
I know. Isn't that cool? Yeah.
00:56:25
Felicia Devine
That's a big deal. My dad said either a dog has it or they don't, and you don't know they have it until it's real life.
00:56:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah. h who
00:56:30
Felicia Devine
ah Gator.
00:56:33
Natalie Richards
I know. So he's he's a real dog.
00:56:38
Felicia Devine
Gator?
00:56:39
Natalie Richards
ah Just FYI, people don't run from the cops because you don't know if they have a dog.
00:56:40
Felicia Devine
so scary. No. No, literally.
00:56:46
Natalie Richards
And then the fact that like he says, I'm going to release my dog. You have the option to stop or not.
00:56:53
Felicia Devine
Oh, that's a not, there's a warning.
00:56:54
Natalie Richards
I have to. Yeah. There's a warning. And the fact that you then decide that you're not going to stop.
00:57:01
Felicia Devine
And Kyle's like, good luck.
00:57:02
Natalie Richards
And he goes, all right, send it.
00:57:05
Felicia Devine
Oh my God, I love that for Gator. What a big moment.
00:57:08
Natalie Richards
I know. So he like lives for that. Like that's what he, that's what he trains for.
00:57:10
Felicia Devine
ah That's what he's bred for, yeah.
00:57:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So, so that was a big day.
00:57:14
Felicia Devine
Okay, so love that.
00:57:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:57:15
Felicia Devine
So Kyle and Gator are protecting the streets.
00:57:18
Natalie Richards
Yes, they are. Yes, they are.
00:57:19
Felicia Devine
They're taking the bad guys off the naughty list.
00:57:20
Natalie Richards
That's right. That's right.
00:57:22
Felicia Devine
Oh, I love that for you guys. um So Gator gets extra food today. he gets extra treats.
00:57:27
Natalie Richards
Gator's going to get like a cheeseburger or something. i don't know.
00:57:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah, he's gonna get French fries.
00:57:32
Natalie Richards
ah That dog's gut is is up is a problem.
00:57:33
Felicia Devine
oh i say Does he have a sensitive belly?
00:57:36
Natalie Richards
i need to do some gut healing. He has a very sensitive belly.
00:57:40
Felicia Devine
Gator.
00:57:40
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Like nerves really get him.
00:57:43
Felicia Devine
Oh, he has a separation anxiety.
00:57:43
Natalie Richards
Separation anxiety, definitely. Definitely.
00:57:49
Felicia Devine
has a nervous belly.
00:57:50
Natalie Richards
And then he's had like parasites and all kinds of stuff I mean, I don't know what they've they are exposed to in Belarus.
00:57:56
Felicia Devine
Do you think it's like when he was...
00:57:57
Natalie Richards
like Yeah.
00:57:58
Felicia Devine
i was... Yeah.
00:57:58
Natalie Richards
there He's had all kinds of like stuff. Yeah.
00:58:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:58:02
Natalie Richards
He comes here and then everything is – he's been on, I don't even know, five rounds of antibiotics.
00:58:02
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:58:08
Felicia Devine
Can
00:58:08
Natalie Richards
It's ridiculous. I'm like, can we not do that and expect him to be okay after that?
00:58:12
Felicia Devine
we not? Yeah.
00:58:14
Natalie Richards
What?
00:58:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I know.
00:58:15
Natalie Richards
no this poor dog.
00:58:17
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:58:18
Felicia Devine
That's sad.
00:58:18
Natalie Richards
But anyway.
Ending with Holiday Wishes and Announcements
00:58:19
Felicia Devine
Okay. Well, that's it for our holiday episode.
00:58:20
Natalie Richards
Okay. think we've – I hope everybody has an awesome Christmas.
00:58:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Take some time to de-stress.
00:58:28
Natalie Richards
And I hope you're not as strung out as I feel.
00:58:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Or you don't look like my hair tie.
00:58:33
Natalie Richards
But, right.
00:58:33
Felicia Devine
Hey, that's on my Christmas list.
00:58:37
Natalie Richards
Stretched out, strung out, crashed out, all of it.
00:58:38
Felicia Devine
and need I need new hair ties.
00:58:41
Natalie Richards
ah There you go.
00:58:41
Felicia Devine
So
00:58:42
Natalie Richards
Anybody who's listening?
00:58:45
Felicia Devine
it's my under $500 list hair ties.
00:58:48
Natalie Richards
That's right. Oh, my gosh.
00:58:49
Felicia Devine
um Well, happy holidays. Natalie and I are deciding to go to an every other week recording schedule to help with our sanity.
00:58:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:58:58
Felicia Devine
um So maybe here and there we'll drop some extra special stuff.
00:58:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:03
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah.
00:59:03
Felicia Devine
But for now, we're going to every other week.
00:59:04
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah.
00:59:06
Natalie Richards
You'll hear from us every two weeks.
00:59:10
Natalie Richards
Go listen to our old episodes.
00:59:12
Felicia Devine
We made a business decision. We're going to every other week. So we will catch you in two weeks at the new year.
00:59:19
Natalie Richards
Okay. Bye.
00:59:20
Felicia Devine
All right. Bye.