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S2.Ep8 - The Female Physiology Finale
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This week we spiral (scientifically) from Olympic heartbreak and dirty chais into moon cycles, haunted closets, red light bathroom rituals, and the very real metabolic shift of the luteal phase.
We break down:
✨ Why you actually need ~200 extra calories before your period
✨ How hormonal birth control can shift attraction + desire
✨ Light pollution, circadian rhythm, and syncing to the moon
✨ The Inito fertility tracker experiment
✨ Reiki revelations, emotional bandwidth, and motherhood isolation
It’s hormones.
It’s haunted toddlers.
It’s high-functioning chaos.
It’s Functionally Feral.
Sarah Hill, PhD This is Your Brain on Birth Control
Sarah Hill, PhD The Period Brain
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Lake Adventures
00:00:51
Felicia Devine
Welcome back to episode eight.
00:00:51
Natalie Richards
We're off to a great start.
00:00:55
Felicia Devine
What was that?
00:00:56
Natalie Richards
That's the laundry.
00:01:00
Felicia Devine
It sounded like a dog was about to attack you. What?
00:01:03
Natalie Richards
I'm at the lake and we're, you know, we're like in the middle of kind of like trying to get out of here, but like also podcasting in between.
00:01:11
Felicia Devine
Wait, like you're going home right now?
00:01:12
Natalie Richards
soon
00:01:14
Felicia Devine
Who went to lake?
00:01:15
Natalie Richards
Kyle's been here for like four days. He was here like a couple days by himself, which was really nice for him. And then Gene and my dad and i drove up in different car and we've been here for a couple days.
00:01:21
Felicia Devine
Okay. okay
00:01:27
Natalie Richards
And then my dad went home. So then it's just us three now, Kyle, Gene and myself going home.
00:01:31
Felicia Devine
Gotcha.
00:01:32
Natalie Richards
So we're like, you know, do trying to get all the sheets off the bed and like but the washing machine is not doing.
00:01:37
Felicia Devine
The washer machine.
00:01:41
Natalie Richards
Okay. Do you hear that?
Podcast Production Challenges
00:01:43
Felicia Devine
I hear it, but I'm curious if our listeners will hear it because our our mics are really good at cutting background noise.
00:01:46
Natalie Richards
stopped. Yeah. Anyway.
00:01:51
Felicia Devine
But it sounds like Natalie's house is going to blown over by the big bad wolf.
00:01:53
Natalie Richards
don't know what's happening. So we're trying, you know, we're like washing the dishes and doing the laundry and doing all the stuff.
00:01:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:02:01
Natalie Richards
So pretty much done, but I'm just waiting for the laundry to be swapped over to the dryer, but we'll see what the status is of that.
00:02:04
Felicia Devine
my gosh. Okay. Well, if the washing machine doesn't explode before that happens.
00:02:10
Natalie Richards
Right. Okay. So anyway,
00:02:13
Felicia Devine
What are you drinking, Natalie?
00:02:15
Natalie Richards
Just water today
Coffee Gestures and 3D Printing Innovation
00:02:15
Natalie Richards
because I already did the dishes and I didn't want to dirty another cup.
00:02:16
Felicia Devine
Oh!
00:02:23
Natalie Richards
I probably would have made a tea or something. I don't know.
00:02:25
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. I love it. I was just drinking water and I sat down and Dan was like, all right, I'm going to go ride, whatever. And I was like, would you mind bringing me a coffee?
00:02:33
Natalie Richards
That's amazing. What did he make you?
00:02:34
Felicia Devine
So he brought me a coffee. He just made me an espresso with cream, I think.
00:02:37
Natalie Richards
Perfect.
00:02:38
Felicia Devine
Simple. But he he is a little saint.
00:02:38
Natalie Richards
Sometimes that's all you need.
00:02:42
Felicia Devine
he went So he had an emergency patient this morning. So he went in and they have this new 3D printer.
00:02:45
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:02:47
Felicia Devine
he three d printed this whole case and
00:02:50
Felicia Devine
put this guy's teeth back together. Then he went to our, i know, way, way, be like, this is how atrocious your spine looks like.
00:02:50
Natalie Richards
Oh my god.
00:02:53
Natalie Richards
I wish we could 3D print people's spines so they can see what they look like. wait That's...
00:03:02
Natalie Richards
There we go. This is... Wait, that's an amazing idea. We need to pitch that to someone.
00:03:08
Felicia Devine
Okay. Who do we know? I don't know.
00:03:10
Natalie Richards
Okay, anyway.
00:03:10
Felicia Devine
Dan's Dan's printer. Anyway. It prints like ceramic teeth. So I don't think that would be applicable to our spine model. But then he called and was like, hey, I finished up.
00:03:18
Natalie Richards
No, but.
00:03:20
Felicia Devine
And I was like, oh, I really wanted to go to like Whole Foods. Well, our Whole Foods is called Kimberton Whole Foods. So it's like a local version of Whole Foods.
00:03:27
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:03:28
Felicia Devine
And I was like, but I just didn't get the house yet. I'm still in my robe. Like we're just doing breakfast. He's like, I'll go to Whole Foods. And he went there, got our groceries. And then he brought me home a chai tea latte.
00:03:40
Natalie Richards
I do. Actually, I love chai.
00:03:43
Felicia Devine
I've never had a chai tea latte. I don't know what sparked.
00:03:44
Natalie Richards
Never ever.
00:03:46
Felicia Devine
No, I don't know.
00:03:47
Felicia Devine
I don't know. Natalie, I don't know if he thought he was getting me a matcha.
00:03:47
Natalie Richards
oh
00:03:49
Natalie Richards
be Right.
00:03:51
Felicia Devine
I didn't tell him.
00:03:53
Natalie Richards
He thought he was getting you something else.
00:03:55
Felicia Devine
I think he thought he was getting me a matcha because I'm on this like matcha cake. I don't know.
00:04:00
Felicia Devine
I'm
00:04:00
Natalie Richards
Wait,
Chai Lattes and Olympic Hockey Excitement
00:04:01
Felicia Devine
whispering. He's in the basement. But it was so sweet. And I was just very grateful. And I was like, oh my God, I love it. And it was actually so good.
00:04:01
Natalie Richards
that's so, that's so cute.
00:04:08
Natalie Richards
So good. Have you ever had, well, you've never had a dirty chai then, which is chai tea latte with a shot of espresso in it.
00:04:09
Felicia Devine
Never had chai before.
00:04:12
Felicia Devine
No, I don't know what that is.
00:04:15
Felicia Devine
Vodka.
00:04:16
Natalie Richards
No, well,
00:04:17
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:04:19
Natalie Richards
Tequila.
00:04:20
Felicia Devine
i thought it was a dirty martini.
00:04:22
Natalie Richards
No.
00:04:23
Felicia Devine
oh
00:04:23
Natalie Richards
It has a shot of espresso in it. So it's like a chai latte.
00:04:26
Felicia Devine
Would I like that? I would like that.
00:04:28
Natalie Richards
It's good. It's real good.
00:04:29
Felicia Devine
So you just call it a dirty, you order a dirty try.
00:04:31
Natalie Richards
A dirty chai.
00:04:33
Felicia Devine
Okay, we'll get that when you're here.
00:04:33
Natalie Richards
I think most places know. I think most places know what that is.
00:04:37
Felicia Devine
I order a dirty try at 7am and it comes with vodka. And pickle juice.
00:04:41
Natalie Richards
They're like, ma'am, we don't have martinis here.
00:04:45
Felicia Devine
I'm like on the rocks. They're like, that's also not it.
00:04:51
Natalie Richards
That's amazing.
00:04:52
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. Okay.
00:04:53
Felicia Devine
So Natalie has some topics that I have so kindly derailed the podcast the past few weeks to, to, yeah, to not be able to catch up on.
00:04:53
Natalie Richards
Oh, okay.
00:04:59
Natalie Richards
It's okay. We have some things.
00:05:03
Felicia Devine
So Natalie's going to give us the itinerary.
00:05:04
Natalie Richards
First though, did you watch, did you watch the Olympic gold medal round the hockey game today?
00:05:12
Felicia Devine
This morning? Yes.
00:05:13
Natalie Richards
Yes. Did you watch it?
00:05:13
Felicia Devine
I know. Overtime? Uh-huh.
00:05:15
Natalie Richards
Amazing. Amazing.
00:05:16
Felicia Devine
I was so confused. I was like, oh my God, they have 20 minutes? What's going to happen in 20 minutes? And Dan said, oh, it just ends.
00:05:20
Natalie Richards
A lot could happen in 20 minutes, but it's sudden death.
00:05:23
Felicia Devine
It just ends. And I'm like, oh, so we could be here for 20 minutes? And it was like a minute and a half in
00:05:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it was amazing. They like trash most of the game.
00:05:30
Felicia Devine
And then,
00:05:32
Natalie Richards
the The goalie was their only saving grace of that whole game.
00:05:33
Felicia Devine
oh
00:05:36
Felicia Devine
I'm not going to lie, Natalie. We literally turned it on and it said overtime. And i was like, huh, okay. We watched a minute and a half of hockey, but we don't have the TV on.
00:05:45
Natalie Richards
that's great.
00:05:47
Felicia Devine
Like, i didn't even know it was happening.
00:05:47
Natalie Richards
I know. Right. It was.
00:05:50
Felicia Devine
So, yeah.
00:05:51
Natalie Richards
I wouldn't have known it started at 7am today or no for you guys, it would have been I don't know when it would have have started.
00:05:54
Felicia Devine
Oh, eight.
00:05:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:05:57
Felicia Devine
Okay, well, I watched one and a half minutes of it and that's all I needed to watch.
00:06:01
Natalie Richards
Well, good. That's all you needed.
00:06:02
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:06:03
Natalie Richards
You saw them come from not playing well.
00:06:05
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:06:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even have to see that. I just saw them play like phenomenally.
00:06:10
Natalie Richards
No. Yeah.
00:06:13
Felicia Devine
However, in their celebration, they were holding up the jersey of the NHL player that passed away and so sad.
00:06:13
Natalie Richards
Anyway.
00:06:19
Natalie Richards
That killed me. They brought his kids out.
00:06:21
Felicia Devine
His parents were there.
00:06:22
Natalie Richards
They brought the kids out on the ice and they took a picture with it.
00:06:24
Felicia Devine
Wait, he had kids.
00:06:26
Natalie Richards
Yes, he had three kids. who His wife was pregnant when he got killed and she announced that she was pregnant at his funeral with their third baby.
00:06:37
Natalie Richards
And then, yeah it's so tragic like tragic.
00:06:37
Felicia Devine
No.
00:06:41
Felicia Devine
Oh my God.
00:06:42
Natalie Richards
These kids were under three.
00:06:42
Felicia Devine
And he passed away riding his bike.
00:06:44
Natalie Richards
i think they had like three or four three kids under four maybe. So sad.
00:06:49
Felicia Devine
Natalie.
00:06:49
Natalie Richards
And his brother died too.
00:06:51
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:06:51
Natalie Richards
He was with his brother and they both, I know, I know that's awful.
00:06:52
Felicia Devine
And I only can think of like Dan and my brother are riding their bikes on the side of the road. Oh, I can't imagine.
00:06:57
Natalie Richards
So they held his, the kids were there for the the picture with the whole team and they held his Jersey up and his parents were there and his sisters were there.
00:06:58
Felicia Devine
Awful.
00:07:05
Natalie Richards
my God. So sad.
00:07:07
Felicia Devine
Devastating.
00:07:08
Natalie Richards
Tragic, but it's cool that they, yeah, we won gold and it's cool that they honored him.
00:07:09
Felicia Devine
Okay. But we won gold. Yeah.
00:07:14
Natalie Richards
That was awesome.
00:07:14
Felicia Devine
Oh, that is so sad. Oh my gosh.
00:07:16
Natalie Richards
that awful? Oh, and know
00:07:18
Felicia Devine
In better news, what do we have to talk about today,
Empowering Women Through Education and Health
00:07:20
Felicia Devine
Natalie? Give me the rundown.
00:07:22
Natalie Richards
I know. we have some things.
00:07:23
Felicia Devine
Keep me on track.
00:07:24
Natalie Richards
Because we could talk about the female hormone cycle, apparently for three episodes, we have some more tidbits to talk about.
00:07:30
Felicia Devine
Why not add more?
00:07:34
Felicia Devine
when you think we're done.
00:07:39
Natalie Richards
There's this program. I don't know if I mentioned this last time or I just didn't. say it. I don't know. Do we talk about girls who know? do we talk about that like class that you can go?
00:07:51
Natalie Richards
And I might have mentioned it to you.
00:07:53
Felicia Devine
OK. I think you did.
00:07:54
Natalie Richards
i don't think we talked about it on the podcast.
00:07:57
Felicia Devine
No, you just mentioned the Catholic class.
00:07:57
Natalie Richards
it's this like online oh that's right It's this online course. I don't know exactly what the curriculum is.
00:08:03
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:08:05
Natalie Richards
I haven't looked at it deeply. But it's called Girls Who Know. And it's like a, I think they say it's for like 10 years old to 13. And it's just kind of like a general, this is how your body works.
00:08:15
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:08:18
Natalie Richards
This is how like even childbirth works sometimes. I think they talk a little bit about that. And just kind of like general female empowerment about your cycle and about your body.
00:08:27
Felicia Devine
Cycle things.
00:08:29
Natalie Richards
So that's kind of cool for anybody who has kids.
00:08:30
Felicia Devine
Honestly, or anybody who's just like, my upbringing didn't go over this or like, I don't know what this means.
00:08:37
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:08:39
Felicia Devine
And like,
00:08:40
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:08:41
Felicia Devine
I'm, I realized it's like way later in life that your cycle length is from like day one until day one.
00:08:49
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:08:50
Felicia Devine
I didn't know it. I thought it was like when you were done bleeding.
00:08:53
Natalie Richards
Done with your, yeah.
00:08:54
Felicia Devine
Like, so those like simple things that I take for granted.
00:08:54
Natalie Richards
and Yeah.
00:08:58
Felicia Devine
was like, hello, it's day one to day one.
00:08:58
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yeah, but people don't know that.
00:09:01
Felicia Devine
But like people don't know that.
00:09:02
Natalie Richards
And somebody could ask you, what day of your cycle are you on? Like your doctor could ask you that and you could say, oh, I'm on day two, but really it's day seven.
00:09:06
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Exactly. or like if you ask somebody like, yeah.
00:09:12
Natalie Richards
so just for blood work purposes, like you need to know this stuff.
00:09:18
Felicia Devine
Or like if you're like, oh, how long is your cycle? And then people are like four days and you're like, oh, wait, that's not what that means.
00:09:21
Natalie Richards
Right, right. Oh, people say that all the time. Yeah.
00:09:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:26
Felicia Devine
So like it could.
00:09:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:09:26
Natalie Richards
And I realize like people don't know what I'm talking about.
00:09:28
Felicia Devine
Exactly. So it could be very rudimentary if like you just want to learn overall how the female cycle works about like very basic things. This could be good for you. It could also be really good for your teenager.
00:09:38
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:09:40
Felicia Devine
So yeah.
00:09:40
Natalie Richards
Yes. It's good for everyone to know. Men too, you know? like there's There's things that guys should probably know about.
00:09:44
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:09:49
Natalie Richards
why is my girlfriend or wife acting insane right now?
00:09:53
Felicia Devine
Have you, have you seen those trends that go around that like, they'll be like, okay, asking my husband what the, the like letter on a tampon means, like an R and S.
00:09:54
Natalie Richards
Or
00:10:06
Felicia Devine
Like, like what they they're like small, medium, large.
00:10:07
Natalie Richards
Just like the silliest little basic things.
00:10:11
Felicia Devine
And you're like, no.
00:10:15
Natalie Richards
Fair enough.
00:10:16
Felicia Devine
they Yeah. Like try. I don't, I've never done anything like that on Dan, but Dan is like, a Dan's like a, I don't know.
00:10:21
Natalie Richards
No, I think.
00:10:25
Felicia Devine
He like, isn't weirded out by that kind of stuff.
00:10:27
Natalie Richards
No, I feel like he also might know.
00:10:27
Felicia Devine
So I feel like I wouldn't even like, I wouldn't even think to ask him. Cause I'm like, he probably knows. And just like, it's not like weird to him.
00:10:34
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:10:34
Felicia Devine
i don't know.
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
I'm also not in the in the business of tricking my husband.
00:10:41
Natalie Richards
Right, no. No, that's not my...
00:10:42
Felicia Devine
I feel like he would not take that well if I was like trying to prank him.
00:10:45
Natalie Richards
That's... and That's not my...
00:10:47
Felicia Devine
I don't think Kyle would take that either.
00:10:48
Natalie Richards
That's not that's not my MO.
00:10:48
Felicia Devine
I'm
00:10:49
Natalie Richards
I don't
00:10:52
Felicia Devine
not in the business of pranking my husband.
00:10:53
Natalie Richards
need to do that.
00:10:55
Felicia Devine
I don't need to prank the mouth that feeds me, okay?
00:10:58
Natalie Richards
Wait, we also have to talk about the horses.
00:11:01
Felicia Devine
or that
00:11:05
Felicia Devine
More horse information? Tell me.
00:11:07
Natalie Richards
We never really talked about this on the podcast.
00:11:10
Felicia Devine
Yes,
00:11:11
Natalie Richards
We did. it
00:11:12
Felicia Devine
I thought we did.
00:11:14
Natalie Richards
I talked about it with you and then we never actually talked about it in depth, I don't think.
00:11:17
Felicia Devine
we didn't. we Okay, so really?
00:11:20
Natalie Richards
I don't think so.
00:11:22
Felicia Devine
Okay, tell me, tell me about the horses because Natalie, and Natalie loves horse fertility.
00:11:27
Natalie Richards
I sent you so many Instagrams about this one particular horse breeding page.
00:11:31
Felicia Devine
uh-huh. yes huh
00:11:37
Natalie Richards
And she starts, well, she's analyzing these horses because she knows like what their signs are for for giving birth.
00:11:41
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah, like for entering labor.
00:11:47
Natalie Richards
And they maybe we did talk about this. I don't know. But they like the the pH of the colostrum.
00:11:50
Felicia Devine
can't remember.
00:11:54
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:11:56
Natalie Richards
it starts to change. Like the day that they were, would be giving birth, the pH goes down.
00:12:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:02
Natalie Richards
And I'm like, why
00:12:03
Felicia Devine
Okay.
Circadian Rhythms and Lighting
00:12:03
Natalie Richards
can't we test this on, on human beings?
00:12:05
Felicia Devine
Women.
00:12:06
Natalie Richards
Like what?
00:12:06
Felicia Devine
Well, yeah.
00:12:07
Natalie Richards
We know this stuff. like
00:12:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:09
Natalie Richards
It's so funny.
00:12:09
Felicia Devine
I know. It's crazy too, because I feel like we've overcomplicated it in like human physiology, whereas like horse physiology, cow physiology, like they're like, well, yeah, this this biomarker means labor starting in eight hours.
00:12:11
Natalie Richards
And then.
00:12:17
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:12:28
Felicia Devine
This biomarker means they're like ready to transition.
00:12:28
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:12:31
Felicia Devine
Like why don't, oh my gosh.
00:12:32
Natalie Richards
And they don't dream of inducing them. but That's not it. And these horses, they're birthing very, very expensive, prestigious horses.
00:12:38
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:12:42
Natalie Richards
Never once, never once is it talked about inducing them.
00:12:43
Felicia Devine
With hooves.
00:12:50
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. And then we're on an induction train in America.
00:12:51
Natalie Richards
to be like, oh gosh, this horse, you know, they could just be pregnant for 320 days or 360 days.
00:12:55
Felicia Devine
if
00:12:58
Natalie Richards
We don't really know. They kind of just give birth when they're ready.
00:13:00
Felicia Devine
We don't know. And they'll just tell us. Now, how do they do the colostrum? Is it like leaking out of them? Is that how they test it?
00:13:07
Natalie Richards
Sometimes, but they will let you will hand express it, yeah.
00:13:07
Felicia Devine
Or are they hand expressing it?
00:13:11
Natalie Richards
And they just put it on a little pH strip and it's fascinating.
00:13:15
Felicia Devine
Okay. I never made it to the colostrum harvesting stage of pregnancy.
00:13:20
Natalie Richards
I'll send them to you again. Oh, for you.
00:13:22
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah.
00:13:22
Natalie Richards
Oh, with the video. I never made it to that point either.
00:13:24
Felicia Devine
I never, i never collected colostrum and i really wish I could have.
00:13:28
Natalie Richards
I never did either. Yeah.
00:13:30
Felicia Devine
That is one of the things i was like so bummed about missing while pregnant.
00:13:35
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:13:36
Felicia Devine
Like that seems like
00:13:36
Natalie Richards
That you could have saved some up just for a rainy day.
00:13:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah, but I just, I wasn't even like on my radar.
00:13:39
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-mm.
00:13:42
Felicia Devine
I wasn't even there yet.
00:13:42
Natalie Richards
and Either. I didn't even try. Yeah, no. I was like, nah, whatever.
00:13:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. So next time, next time I'm going to live stream colostrum harvesting.
00:13:47
Natalie Richards
It's fine. Sounds like too much work.
00:13:54
Felicia Devine
And we're going to test the pH.
00:13:56
Natalie Richards
Yes, because I'm so curious.
00:13:58
Felicia Devine
There's got to, can we look it up? There must be something, Natalie.
00:14:01
Natalie Richards
I'll have to look it up. I've never heard of something like that before.
00:14:02
Felicia Devine
There must be.
00:14:04
Natalie Richards
And that's why I was like, I saw that with the horses. I go, what? It has to be the same way.
00:14:10
Felicia Devine
there's gotta to be There's got to be somebody that's done it.
00:14:11
Natalie Richards
Must be.
00:14:13
Felicia Devine
Right?
00:14:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:14
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:14:14
Natalie Richards
I don't know. all the All the cool things start with horses and then it trickles down to to humans later.
00:14:19
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:14:20
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Because they're more expensive than we are.
00:14:22
Natalie Richards
Exactly. The other thing we didn't really discuss, like we're going to talk a little bit today, more tidbits about the cycle, but we didn't really discuss the moon cycle and how, how, yes.
00:14:36
Felicia Devine
sorry. I just noticed you have a giant fish picture behind you.
00:14:41
Natalie Richards
Hey,
00:14:42
Felicia Devine
just noticed that a gigantic is that a painting oh my god that's so funny okay the moon cycle
00:14:45
Natalie Richards
pushy, pushy. Yeah.
00:14:50
Natalie Richards
to the lake. Yeah. So, cause we went into this kind of in depth with your little party that you had at your office like long ago and how like the seed cycling plays into the actual lunar cycle and how really our cycles are actually supposed to be 28 days.
00:15:00
Felicia Devine
okay yeah uh-huh uh-huh
00:15:11
Natalie Richards
Like that's
00:15:13
Felicia Devine
In sync with the moon.
00:15:13
Natalie Richards
kind of the biological norm in psych with the moon cycle and how most people traditionally would have been in line with that, that typical lunar cycle.
00:15:15
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:15:23
Natalie Richards
And then some women would be switched, which were like the healing women would have been, would have been switched where they would be the opposite.
00:15:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Inversed. Yeah.
00:15:32
Natalie Richards
So typically we, like a normal woman would bleed on the new moon
00:15:41
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:15:41
Natalie Richards
Am I saying that right? Yes.
00:15:43
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:15:43
Natalie Richards
And then they would ovulate on the full moon. So you would have the potential to get pregnant on a full moon.
00:15:46
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:15:49
Felicia Devine
Which is like the, the brightest night you're more awake, like in, in ancient history where before electricity that also coincided with like the brightest night and things like that.
00:15:51
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:15:57
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:16:00
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:16:00
Felicia Devine
So yeah, that's how I try and remember it.
00:16:01
Natalie Richards
yes
00:16:03
Felicia Devine
It's like the brightest night.
00:16:03
Natalie Richards
And that's pretty fascinating.
00:16:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:05
Natalie Richards
So then what really has gotten us away from that lunar cycle is all of the artificial light that we now have. in our world. So all of the light that we have, light pollution in cities or even just like having artificial lights on after sunset,
00:16:13
Felicia Devine
Yes. Like light pollution.
00:16:23
Felicia Devine
In our houses. Yeah.
00:16:25
Natalie Richards
is actually changing around our hormone cycle pretty significantly to the point that we don't really even understand what that's doing to our circadian rhythms.
00:16:28
Felicia Devine
Oh
00:16:35
Felicia Devine
my goodness.
00:16:35
Natalie Richards
Circadian rhythms, yes, but our hormone cycle rhythms are also on those same wavelengths.
00:16:36
Felicia Devine
Cause how do you hormone cycle? Yeah. Well, they're synced with our circadian rhythm.
00:16:43
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:16:43
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:16:44
Natalie Richards
So there's so many things that we're really, really screwing up with this electricity thing. So that's where this like this whole this whole movement to have like like red lights in your house and and turn all the big lights off and just have lamps after sunset and turning screens off or turning like red settings on on your phone, they really do make a difference.
00:16:50
Felicia Devine
Electricity. know here
00:17:00
Felicia Devine
Screen time. Yeah.
00:17:07
Natalie Richards
So if you're trying to change anything that's like
00:17:07
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:17:11
Natalie Richards
a very free thing to do free of charge.
00:17:12
Felicia Devine
I was going say free of charge.
00:17:15
Natalie Richards
You can just change around your lighting in your house after sunset, along with like meal timing and things like that.
00:17:15
Felicia Devine
We're not telling you on anything.
00:17:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. whom
00:17:23
Natalie Richards
So like eating within like an hour or two of the sun going down is is ideal and not eating within like three hours of going to bed.
00:17:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:31
Natalie Richards
So there's like a lot of things you can hack with that like very primitive biology.
00:17:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:36
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:17:36
Natalie Richards
It's really fascinating.
00:17:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No, I love that.
00:17:39
Natalie Richards
So I just wanted to mention those things because we really are meant to be on the 28-day lunar cycle.
00:17:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:45
Natalie Richards
So if we're veering from that in any way, it is it is an indicator that something's not quite right.
00:17:45
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Detrimental. Right. Right.
00:17:53
Natalie Richards
So just wanted to mention...
00:17:54
Felicia Devine
Now, now, so like the free version of switching over your home to be more conducive to less light pollution and, honoring that circadian rhythm would be like turning off the lights and like lighting unscented candles, beeswax candles.
00:18:09
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:18:11
Felicia Devine
or just simply turning the lights down if you have a dimmer.
00:18:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:18:14
Felicia Devine
If you like don't have beeswix beeswax candles, like that's okay.
00:18:19
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:18:19
Felicia Devine
But if you could just like reduce the light, reduce the overhead pollution, turn on a lamp instead of the overhead light.
00:18:19
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:18:26
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:18:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah, a big part about that is that our eyes are used to seeing like campfire light at night.
00:18:31
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:18:34
Natalie Richards
So anything that's like if it's bouncing from the ceiling down to the ground and into your eye it's giving you a different signal that it's actually like the middle of the day.
00:18:40
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:18:44
Natalie Richards
So if the light is then bouncing straight from a lower surface, which would be like a lamp or like if you can envision where a fire would be on the ground.
00:18:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:18:49
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:18:53
Felicia Devine
Right. Turn on your fireplace.
00:18:54
Natalie Richards
Sure, turn on your fireplace. So like that, that type of light bouncing up into our eyes gives us a different type of signal on what time of day it is.
00:18:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:19:00
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:19:02
Natalie Richards
So if you're dealing with sleep issues, if you're dealing with anything like that, it's, it's really, really interesting how you can hack all this stuff.
00:19:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And it also helps with kids and like getting a kid to start settling down.
00:19:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:19:14
Felicia Devine
I mean, don't take my advice on sleep. Okay. I'm not the sleep expert, but what we do in our house is we do reduce light. We do turn lights down. and this is like a purchase, but that's, this isn't necessary, but I have the happy home light bulbs.
00:19:30
Felicia Devine
And so, it's,
00:19:31
Natalie Richards
Do those dim? They dim and change color?
00:19:34
Felicia Devine
They dim and they're three settings. So every time you turn, like we have them in pretty much every room, but so in the kitchen, they're at the Island Pendants.
00:19:36
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:19:44
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:19:44
Felicia Devine
And so in the evening, they go from our daylight setting and then you flip the switch once and it goes to sunset color.
00:19:49
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:19:51
Felicia Devine
So it's like a little bit warmer. And then when the sun is down, you turn it to campfire mode and it's like orange.
00:19:58
Natalie Richards
Lovely.
00:19:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And then so we have those in our lamps in our bedroom, like our table lamps and our floor lamp.
00:20:03
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:20:05
Felicia Devine
And then in Giuseppe's room, we do the same thing. So like we change the color as the day progresses.
00:20:09
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
00:20:12
Felicia Devine
We really don't use the daylight one because I don't really have lights on in the house unless it's.
00:20:12
Natalie Richards
That's my next thing I need to do. No. Not during the day.
00:20:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:21
Felicia Devine
But that does like kind of set the tone for like what time of day it is.
00:20:22
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:25
Felicia Devine
And like, it's time to start winding down.
00:20:25
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:20:26
Felicia Devine
And like, you really do feel calmer when it's orange light and it's not like a bright light in your eyeball, but I've always been hypersensitive.
00:20:30
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I know. It's so funny because i I love bright lights. Like I want it to be like, it's awful, but like that's what I want.
00:20:39
Felicia Devine
Like in a house you want to, you want to be able to see, yeah.
00:20:40
Natalie Richards
Like I want it right. But I have to actually, I'm going to have to now train myself into not having to have that all the time.
00:20:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:48
Felicia Devine
Well, when you come to my house, you can see how the the like vibe operates and see if you like having like that opportunity for like dim and like orangey lights.
00:20:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah, I think I just like my my eyes love cool colors.
00:21:01
Natalie Richards
And when it's warm, can't stand it.
00:21:04
Felicia Devine
Oh, you just like can't stand it.
00:21:05
Natalie Richards
I don't know. don't know why. I don't know why.
00:21:07
Felicia Devine
I'm the opposite.
00:21:07
Natalie Richards
i don't know why
00:21:07
Felicia Devine
I cannot stand a cool. if If a light bulb is a cool tone, I feel like my soul is being pierced.
00:21:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:21:13
Natalie Richards
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I don't get that at all.
00:21:14
Felicia Devine
I don't know what that is about me. I don't know what's what's wrong with us.
00:21:18
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:21:18
Felicia Devine
Why are we different? Natalie, we're usually the same on everything.
00:21:22
Natalie Richards
i know. And this is where we're like, oh, I don't know.
00:21:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah, this is where we differ.
00:21:25
Natalie Richards
is so strange. Mm hmm.
00:21:26
Felicia Devine
No, I don't know. I've always been so sensitive to overhead lights. Like, it's a joke in my family. Like, if there is an overhead light on, I'm like a vampire.
00:21:32
Natalie Richards
But you are sensitive. You are, it's, as you have said, that's your autism.
00:21:35
Felicia Devine
I'm like, ah! like,
00:21:39
Felicia Devine
Yes, that's coming through.
00:21:39
Natalie Richards
It's your autism speaking.
00:21:42
Felicia Devine
yeah So it just pierces my soul.
00:21:44
Natalie Richards
So funny.
00:21:46
Felicia Devine
And yeah, I love it. They're called happy. Did I so healthy home?
00:21:50
Natalie Richards
Happy home.
00:21:51
Felicia Devine
No, happy home.
00:21:51
Natalie Richards
I think you said happy home. Yeah.
00:21:53
Felicia Devine
I think they're called happy home. And like I said, like they work on a lamp.
00:21:54
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:21:55
Felicia Devine
So every time you switch the lamp, it'll change the color. They work on a light switch.
00:21:59
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:21:59
Felicia Devine
They're dimmable. Like I i really do love them. We'll link them in the show notes.
00:22:02
Natalie Richards
That's going to be my next, it's my next, it's my next step. I'm just going have to get over warm toned light.
00:22:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Well, wait, don't buy anything. Come to my house in, what is it?
00:22:09
Natalie Richards
I'll come and see how I like it.
00:22:10
Felicia Devine
Two weeks. See how you like it.
00:22:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Two weeks.
00:22:12
Felicia Devine
Cause it's so orange, Natalie. If you don't like, if you don't like not cool tone, it's almost difficult to see.
00:22:18
Natalie Richards
I'm going have a hard time with that.
00:22:21
Natalie Richards
I would almost rather just like not have, I would rather have nothing.
00:22:22
Felicia Devine
It's like operating by campfire.
00:22:26
Natalie Richards
would rather have a candle, I think.
00:22:29
Felicia Devine
I'm going to put candles in Natalie's room. Oh my gosh. No, I'm like,
00:22:34
Natalie Richards
But I have to just train myself for that.
00:22:36
Felicia Devine
I think so we started doing these light bulbs when we moved to this house and I just think it's such a vibe.
00:22:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:22:43
Felicia Devine
It's and I just I don't know it is it's such like an elevated thing, but don't feel like you to go out and purchase them.
00:22:44
Natalie Richards
No, it is.
00:22:47
Natalie Richards
I think it's hilarious. The thought of like our neighbors going by our house and have and seeing like straight up red light coming from our house would be so funny.
00:22:53
Felicia Devine
Mm hmm.
00:22:58
Felicia Devine
We. Did you know that's what happens with my house?
00:23:01
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:23:02
Felicia Devine
I have, I have red light.
00:23:03
Natalie Richards
That's what happens.
00:23:04
Felicia Devine
i have red light in my shower, like a bright red light, div like my light bulb in this the shower is red light.
00:23:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:23:11
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:23:12
Felicia Devine
My whole bathroom glows and I don't shut my blinds in my bathroom. So my whole bathroom, it looks like we're doing like seances every single night because Dan and I shower at night.
00:23:22
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:23:23
Felicia Devine
And so the the light is like so potent.
00:23:24
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:23:26
Felicia Devine
You're going have to shower in my bathroom. But it's like, i just know Carol. It's just like, what are they doing up there?
00:23:32
Natalie Richards
What is going on?
00:23:34
Felicia Devine
What is going on?
00:23:35
Natalie Richards
and we are
00:23:35
Felicia Devine
Did I ever tell you my neighbor, Carol?
00:23:37
Natalie Richards
No, I have a neighbor Carol too.
00:23:40
Felicia Devine
I don't think she listens to the podcast.
00:23:40
Natalie Richards
That's so funny.
00:23:41
Felicia Devine
I hope she doesn't. she called me the other day when I was at work and left me a voicemail. It was like, uh, Felicia, it's Carol from like next door. I just, I just wanted to let you know that your bird feeder in your backyard has been empty for a very long time. And like the snow storm is coming and like, you need to fill it.
00:24:02
Natalie Richards
Carol of the HOA.
00:24:03
Felicia Devine
What? Carol, it's Tuesday. Well, no, it what day was it? It was a Monday at like noon.
00:24:09
Natalie Richards
Oh no.
00:24:09
Felicia Devine
i like, Carol, I'm at, so I call her back and she's like, hi, honey, are you at work today? I go, yeah, Carol. at work. She's like, well, I guess I could go fill up your roof here. I said, don't go, no, don't go back there.
00:24:21
Natalie Richards
Oh, goodness.
00:24:21
Felicia Devine
Don't worry about it. I'll figure it out.
00:24:23
Natalie Richards
Goodness. Somebody will do it.
00:24:24
Felicia Devine
I'll figure it out, Carol. But she's, she's nosy.
00:24:26
Natalie Richards
That's funny. Oh, yeah.
00:24:27
Felicia Devine
She's super nosy.
00:24:27
Natalie Richards
So she definitely is looking at your red light bulbs and she's like, what are these people doing?
00:24:29
Felicia Devine
So she watches my red light glowing,
00:24:34
Natalie Richards
What kind of funky stuff are they doing?
00:24:34
Felicia Devine
Yes. isn it And my toxic trait is I don't shut blinds. So like if she wanted to look in my bathroom window, like I'm walking around naked.
00:24:41
Natalie Richards
I don't either. don't have time for that.
Nosy Neighbors and Home Rituals
00:24:44
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry, Carol.
00:24:44
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:24:46
Felicia Devine
I just, I can't be bothered to shut my blinds every night and then reopen them in the morning.
00:24:47
Natalie Richards
So funny.
00:24:50
Natalie Richards
That's so funny.
00:24:50
Felicia Devine
That sounds like too much work.
00:24:52
Natalie Richards
No. Yeah. Who do people do that?
00:24:55
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:24:55
Natalie Richards
I can't even imagine.
00:24:56
Felicia Devine
i couldn't.
00:24:58
Natalie Richards
i don't know.
00:24:58
Felicia Devine
I couldn't. No, my bedroom blinds never. I've never shut my bedroom blinds.
00:25:03
Natalie Richards
No, no.
00:25:03
Felicia Devine
Actually, maybe I did when I was sick and I like needed like to nap.
00:25:07
Natalie Richards
And then I'll leave them that way for weeks.
00:25:07
Felicia Devine
The one time I took a nap. nice okay
00:25:12
Natalie Richards
If they get closed, they're they're closed.
00:25:14
Felicia Devine
They're staying closed. Like I just couldn't.
00:25:15
Natalie Richards
They're done.
00:25:16
Felicia Devine
I couldn't be bothered to open blinds every day. That sounds like a chore. i have other things to do.
00:25:22
Natalie Richards
I know. The other thing I want to start doing is that like Norwegian Scandinavian house burping situation. Have you seen that?
00:25:29
Felicia Devine
Wait, the Lufton?
00:25:30
Natalie Richards
Where you, yeah, like you just like open your house for 10 minutes a day and just let it breathe.
00:25:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I actually recommend that to patients at work because they'll be like, oh, we've been sick for like three weeks and I can't, no one can get over it.
00:25:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:43
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:25:44
Felicia Devine
I'm like, go home, open every window in your house, 10 minutes, don't tell your husband.
00:25:48
Natalie Richards
But again, effort of that, my word.
00:25:51
Felicia Devine
I know, but to get over a sickness, I'm like, youre you need new air.
00:25:53
Natalie Richards
But yes, it, oh, for sure.
00:25:55
Felicia Devine
Your air is dirty.
00:25:56
Natalie Richards
For sure. They do that every day, traditionally.
00:25:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:00
Natalie Richards
Like they're doing that every day.
00:26:00
Felicia Devine
Well, I'll do it in like the kitchen area. Cause it will, even though have air purifiers, it's just like, it's stuffy.
00:26:07
Natalie Richards
gets stuffy. I know. And I have so many air purifiers.
00:26:09
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, I'm like, let's just like get some fresh air in here. But yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't, I like how you called it air or house burping.
00:26:14
Natalie Richards
I need to make that part of my routine. i just, house burping. That's what I just came across the other day. Somebody said I burp my house every day.
00:26:22
Felicia Devine
That's so cutesy. It's like burping your sourdough or something. Wait, Or your, what's it called?
00:26:27
Natalie Richards
Here, kombucha.
00:26:30
Felicia Devine
Kombucha.
00:26:30
Natalie Richards
Here.
00:26:31
Felicia Devine
I'm like, there's something else. Wait, I have something else to say. Have you heard of,
00:26:35
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:26:40
Felicia Devine
what's it called? it's It's, so in the chinese news and the Chinese New Year, which like just happened, they do a, I think it's called like a salt thing.
00:26:43
Natalie Richards
don't know, Felicia.
00:26:53
Felicia Devine
lick or a salt cleanse or no, it's something else. It will come to me. Basically what you do is you take, a glass jar. It could be a tomato sauce jar.
00:27:03
Felicia Devine
it could be an old yogurt jar, whatever glass jar you fill it with chunky salt, preferably pink Himalayan salt, chunky course.
00:27:11
Natalie Richards
Okay. Just like court. Yeah. Okay.
00:27:13
Felicia Devine
You felt like three quarters of the way. And then you put five pennies on the top of the, the, salt in a clockwise, like you lay them down clockwise and they're like organized inside on top of the salt.
00:27:23
Natalie Richards
Inside the jar. Okay.
00:27:27
Felicia Devine
Then you pour water over the pennies. So like you cover the pennies just a little bit. So there's water in the whole jar and like slightly above the pennies.
00:27:35
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:27:35
Felicia Devine
Then you put this jar in like just like an old to go container, like plastic container, something that you don't care about. You're going to throw it away.
00:27:43
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:27:43
Felicia Devine
And then you put it on like the top shelf of your kitchen. You can put it on like the top of your like closet, basically wherever you're trying to draw negative energy and bad energy out of your home. And throughout the whole year, it like basically turns to like poison energy.
00:28:00
Felicia Devine
It collects and like attracts all the bad energy in your home. And then at the end of the year, you throw it away, but you like can't touch it.
00:28:05
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:28:09
Felicia Devine
so you have to wear like Gloves and you have to like put it, you have to put the whole thing in a bag without touching any of it because it's like impurities.
00:28:09
Natalie Richards
I like it.
00:28:16
Natalie Richards
Oh my. Okay.
00:28:17
Felicia Devine
I know. So I bought, I bought some ingredients to make it.
00:28:17
Natalie Richards
That's very interesting. I love that.
00:28:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But I need to figure out what it's called. What is it called? salt? No. I don't know.
00:28:27
Natalie Richards
boy. I'll have to look it up.
00:28:28
Felicia Devine
Darn it. I wish I could remember what it was called, but I'm going to, I'm going to make one or two because Dan is convinced that Giuseppe's room is haunted.
00:28:30
Natalie Richards
Post something about it.
00:28:37
Felicia Devine
so I'm going to make one and put it in his closet.
00:28:37
Natalie Richards
And it may be. We've got lots of purpose room.
00:28:39
Felicia Devine
but we burp his room and we sage it
00:28:42
Natalie Richards
We'll see.
00:28:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:28:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Okay.
00:28:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:28:44
Natalie Richards
Interesting.
00:28:44
Felicia Devine
Because he just, I don't know, but he could also be highly sensitive like me.
00:28:47
Natalie Richards
Oh, I'll do the emotion code on Giuseppe when I get there.
00:28:50
Felicia Devine
You need to you need to.
00:28:51
Natalie Richards
Let's do it. We'll do.
00:28:53
Felicia Devine
I had Reiki again.
00:28:54
Natalie Richards
Oh, you did.
00:28:56
Felicia Devine
it was very sad.
00:28:57
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:28:58
Felicia Devine
it was very sad. She basically was like, she was like, and I'm going hit it home again.
00:28:59
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:29:03
Felicia Devine
You have no friends.
00:29:04
Natalie Richards
Oh, okay. So that's really like your primary situation.
00:29:06
Felicia Devine
Okay, that was like the that was the theme, okay? But like the way she presented it was not that way. It was basically like, imagine you're walking 15 dogs.
00:29:11
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:29:14
Felicia Devine
You have some on a belt leash, you have some in each hand, and then each hand, each leash separates three times. She's like, these are the relationships in your life, and like the dogs are all pulling, and you're holding on tighter than you need to.
00:29:28
Felicia Devine
And she's like, honestly, sometimes it's better to just drop the leash, and like the dogs that run away probably aren't for you, and the dogs that stay are like your people.
00:29:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:29:36
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, ew.
00:29:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:29:39
Felicia Devine
ew why is that?
00:29:39
Natalie Richards
I hate that concept, but it's true.
00:29:42
Felicia Devine
What is wrong with me?
00:29:43
Natalie Richards
oh no, that's like normal. i think i think most people only have the capacity to have like maybe three or four friendships, like true
00:29:47
Felicia Devine
Natalie.
Friendship and Fertility Tracking
00:29:53
Natalie Richards
relationships at any given time where it's like then everybody else is kind of like acquaintance-ish otherwise it takes to it's so much energy for you
00:29:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah, maybe that's it.
00:30:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:03
Felicia Devine
Well, I feel like I have to balance like my family relationships, right?
00:30:07
Natalie Richards
yeah yeah and that's what really is pulling you yeah obviously
00:30:07
Felicia Devine
Because they're all long distance. Every family member, except for my brother, I see him all the time. But like, yeah, it's like I have to maintain the relationship with my parents, which I like, these aren't like hardships, but it's like, it's energy that I'm like, I have to maintain relationship long distance, which I find very challenging.
00:30:27
Felicia Devine
I'm not good at communication long distance. I just am not.
00:30:30
Natalie Richards
long I'm not either. I'm not either. It ends up being like, I love those people, but like, i it's not something I can spend every day checking in on someone.
00:30:33
Felicia Devine
Like when my, yeah.
00:30:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. Like when my parents stay at our house for like a month at a time, I am like my best self.
00:30:40
Natalie Richards
That's not me.
00:30:46
Felicia Devine
I'm my happiest self because I don't have to communicate with them via electronics.
00:30:46
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:30:49
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I'm going to my mom's room and I'm sitting on her bed and we're chatting or like she, you know, like that is where I feel so fulfilled.
00:30:50
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:30:53
Natalie Richards
Oh, yes.
00:30:57
Natalie Richards
And that's what you have to put energy into achieving for yourself is to like go there or have them here or have them with you or whatever.
00:30:57
Felicia Devine
So I'm like,
00:31:01
Felicia Devine
Having my parents move in with me.
00:31:05
Natalie Richards
Like actually make make like the travel happen to make those relationships.
00:31:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:12
Natalie Richards
like And that's where you recharge that relationship.
00:31:13
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:31:15
Natalie Richards
And then during the rest of the time, you don't have to do it every single day.
00:31:16
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:31:19
Natalie Richards
That's where it gets really hard.
00:31:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I know it's hard though.
00:31:22
Natalie Richards
It's really hard.
00:31:22
Felicia Devine
It's so hard. So that was depressing.
00:31:23
Natalie Richards
oh Well, that's kind of sad.
00:31:24
Felicia Devine
Oh, it was so sad. And then I was like talking to Dan about it.
00:31:27
Natalie Richards
So that was the majority of that Reiki.
00:31:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I was talking to Dan about it and i was like, truthfully, i don't even know where my cup gets filled anymore. Like, I'm just like, what the heck?
00:31:35
Natalie Richards
Oh, I know.
00:31:38
Felicia Devine
I was like, my most meaningful conversation all week is with Natalie.
00:31:38
Natalie Richards
What does it?
00:31:42
Natalie Richards
oh I feel the same way. That's so true.
00:31:44
Felicia Devine
I know. I'm like, I just, it fills my cup to talk about things that I want to talk about.
00:31:48
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:31:49
Felicia Devine
And not things that are like admin, you know, like I don't want to do admin in my life.
00:31:52
Natalie Richards
Oh. Or like as much as we love our patients, it's a lot of like, how are you?
00:31:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:59
Natalie Richards
What's going on in your life?
00:32:00
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:32:01
Natalie Richards
Like helping people through their stuff, which it's a good relationship, but it's not it's not the same type of relationship as a friend is.
00:32:01
Felicia Devine
And not to be. Yeah.
00:32:05
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah. I know.
00:32:12
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah.
00:32:14
Natalie Richards
So that's really hard.
00:32:14
Felicia Devine
So that was ultra depressing.
00:32:15
Natalie Richards
Oof.
00:32:18
Felicia Devine
I know. i was like, oh, I wasn't ready for that.
00:32:22
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:32:22
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm. Oh, I'm so excited I'm coming to see you.
00:32:22
Felicia Devine
So that happened.
00:32:26
Felicia Devine
I know. i was like, oh, my cup is going to filled.
00:32:28
Natalie Richards
That's just what that it makes it really hard. That was the hardest part for me to like having a kid, I think, is that I can't do the things that, yeah, I can't.
00:32:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. The isolation. Yeah.
00:32:38
Natalie Richards
I mean, I made it made time for it because I just like went places all the time.
00:32:40
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:32:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:32:43
Natalie Richards
But like, I don't know.
00:32:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:32:45
Natalie Richards
It's really then really hard to like cultivate the relationships that you want to have because you don't have the capacity anymore.
00:32:50
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:32:53
Felicia Devine
I know. I know. And like work is great, but it's so demanding.
00:32:55
Natalie Richards
I think
00:33:00
Natalie Richards
it's draining.
00:33:00
Felicia Devine
It's so demanding.
00:33:01
Natalie Richards
As much as we love it, it's so draining and demanding.
00:33:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:06
Natalie Richards
So it's just, there's I know, there's like big, big questions, big philosophical life things.
00:33:07
Felicia Devine
I love it, but
00:33:10
Felicia Devine
yeah.
00:33:15
Felicia Devine
Not for today.
00:33:17
Natalie Richards
No, don't have to figure that out right now.
00:33:19
Felicia Devine
So changing topics to something funnier. enough It's not funny. I don't know why I said funny, but like lighter topics. Okay.
00:33:25
Natalie Richards
later.
00:33:26
Felicia Devine
So Natalie got me to purchase the Inito fertility tracker.
00:33:32
Natalie Richards
Oh, yes.
00:33:33
Felicia Devine
And girl, that thing's confusing. And I'm like pretty educated. What the heck?
00:33:38
Natalie Richards
I don't, I think you might be having a glitch, truthfully, because I've heard that from a few people, that some of them are just glitchy.
00:33:41
Felicia Devine
Well,
00:33:44
Felicia Devine
I looked
00:33:46
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:33:46
Felicia Devine
But I looked at other people's charts. So there's like a Facebook group of people who have the trackers and then they upload like their charts and they ask questions and whatever. Everyone's chart kind of looks the same.
00:33:57
Felicia Devine
So I don't know if it's the scale.
00:33:57
Natalie Richards
And that's where I, yeah, I think the scale is just different than than what you would usually see.
00:33:59
Felicia Devine
Like it might look...
00:34:03
Felicia Devine
Would have thought.
00:34:04
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:34:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Because I'm like, it looks like I have no hormones at all. I'm like, am I dead inside? But then like, as I've continued testing, they are slightly changing. And based on what I'm seeing in other people's charts, now I'm comparing myself against people. I don't know their health.
00:34:23
Felicia Devine
Like they could be completely unhealthy and like, I'm like not gauging this right, but it looks like their charts are drastically different too.
00:34:24
Natalie Richards
right
00:34:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:31
Felicia Devine
Like from what I was expecting to see.
00:34:32
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:34:34
Felicia Devine
So I don't know if it's necessarily faulty or it's just like, I'm interpreting it
00:34:34
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:34:38
Felicia Devine
different. I don't know.
00:34:39
Natalie Richards
Different.
00:34:39
Felicia Devine
But there's also not a lot of education cycle.
00:34:40
Natalie Richards
We'll have to wait and see what the full what the full month looks like.
00:34:44
Felicia Devine
So I actually have been testing daily because I was so confused on how to even read the thing.
00:34:44
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:48
Felicia Devine
i was like, well, I need to have like as many data points as possible.
00:34:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:52
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:34:53
Felicia Devine
But it's, it's interesting. And I feel like it will be really cool if I figure out how to stink and read it Like I literally like, I you know.
00:34:59
Natalie Richards
And I don't know what to tell you until I see the whole thing.
00:35:02
Felicia Devine
And I just, I feel like kind of confused I don't know. I feel confused. And there's not a lot of like education on the app on like how to interpret your results.
00:35:14
Natalie Richards
Which is interesting. I wonder if they they don't have it on their website or anything.
00:35:15
Felicia Devine
And I, I wonder if it's like a legal thing.
00:35:18
Natalie Richards
It must be because they don't have,
00:35:19
Felicia Devine
They like provide like, like health advice.
00:35:24
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:35:25
Natalie Richards
unless you're talking to an actual doctor
00:35:25
Felicia Devine
They're like, yeah like, but like, why won't they tell me how to interpret it? I don't know.
00:35:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that's interesting.
00:35:32
Felicia Devine
I don't know. So anyway, we'll see.
00:35:36
Natalie Richards
We'll have to see.
00:35:36
Felicia Devine
We'll continue.
00:35:37
Natalie Richards
We'll have to see about that.
00:35:37
Felicia Devine
I've tested one, two, three, four. if I've tested six days in a row now.
00:35:42
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:35:42
Felicia Devine
So we'll see.
00:35:43
Natalie Richards
This is good.
00:35:43
Felicia Devine
We'll see. Things are changing.
00:35:44
Natalie Richards
It's good.
00:35:44
Felicia Devine
I'll show you.
00:35:45
Natalie Richards
You've got to be, you're close to ovulation now, aren't you? Oh yeah, things are changing.
00:35:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Things are changing. We're heating up.
00:35:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I feel like that's doing what it's supposed to do.
00:35:52
Felicia Devine
oh Yeah. But I think i when I first like started testing, i was like, i have no hormones.
00:35:58
Natalie Richards
What is this? Yeah, that it was just low.
00:36:00
Felicia Devine
yeah, but my estrogen is high. So that's good.
00:36:04
Natalie Richards
Oh boy.
00:36:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I don't know.
00:36:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
00:36:08
Felicia Devine
We'll see.
00:36:08
Natalie Richards
We'll have to see.
00:36:08
Felicia Devine
We'll see. Yeah.
00:36:09
Natalie Richards
We'll give it, we'll give it some more time.
00:36:11
Felicia Devine
We'll give it some more time and I will give my full input on like what I think of the device.
00:36:12
Natalie Richards
the
00:36:16
Felicia Devine
I don't know. It's also like I didn't try this hard with, and I'm not trying hard, but I like didn't have this much data when I was getting pregnant with Giuseppe. So it's like, my mom was like, you do love a gizmo, like a a gadget to like see things.
00:36:29
Felicia Devine
And I was like, I do love a science experiment, but I'm nervous.
00:36:29
Natalie Richards
huh. To just check.
00:36:32
Felicia Devine
I'm going to get two in my head.
00:36:34
Felicia Devine
And I don't want that to happen.
00:36:34
Natalie Richards
I know that's the problem.
00:36:35
Natalie Richards
I know. So you just do this for a little bit and then you kind of just for fun see what happens.
00:36:38
Felicia Devine
It's just for funsies. And I had to remember that. Yeah.
00:36:41
Natalie Richards
it gives It gives you good perspective on what to tell other people.
00:36:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:36:45
Natalie Richards
And then you can go from there and you can just say, okay, i'm not going to try anymore.
00:36:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I know.
00:36:49
Natalie Richards
And we're just going to, which is probably going to happen.
00:36:49
Felicia Devine
Not for me. Yeah, I know. And also like it is kind of cumbersome. It's a 10 minute thing every morning.
00:37:02
Natalie Richards
That's a lot. And that's probably why you don't do it every day, where you end up just doing it every few days.
00:37:03
Felicia Devine
and like, you're not. Yeah, I don't know, but it has. Yeah, and I think I'm just doing it every day right now to just like see what it is.
00:37:14
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:37:15
Felicia Devine
But then like if I were to use it in other months, I don't know if I would do that, you know?
00:37:19
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:37:20
Felicia Devine
okay. So the other thing i was going to say about that, what was I going to say about that?
00:37:21
Natalie Richards
Right. I... I want to talk a little bit about that, about Sarah Hill. the she' iss
00:37:29
Felicia Devine
Mm. Mm-hmm.
00:37:30
Natalie Richards
Did you listen to the podcast?
00:37:31
Felicia Devine
Yes. Mm-hmm.
00:37:33
Natalie Richards
Okay. It was very interesting because we had talked about Sarah Hill a couple podcasts back. and She's a evolutionary psychologist.
00:37:39
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:37:42
Natalie Richards
She has her PhD in evolutionary psychology, which is quite interesting, quite an interesting background.
00:37:43
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:37:45
Felicia Devine
Which is so cool.
00:37:49
Natalie Richards
She has a book called This Is Your Brain on Birth Control, and then which we touched on.
00:37:49
Felicia Devine
okay
00:37:55
Natalie Richards
And a couple of podcasts ago, she now has a new book, which is like on your period.
00:37:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:00
Natalie Richards
I forget what the full name of it is, but Sarah Hill, new book on, on like pretty much what we've been talking about, which is like your menstrual cycle and like what is actually happening.
00:38:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:10
Natalie Richards
so there were a few things that I wrote little notes about when she was talking.
00:38:13
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:38:14
Natalie Richards
Cause was like, Oh, these are really interesting little tidbits.
00:38:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Tidbits.
00:38:19
Natalie Richards
So she was just saying how like in the luteal phase, because we've been talking about the luteal phase a lot, how but like your we know our temperature increases in the luteal phase, but that's actually because our metabolic rate is actually
00:38:24
Felicia Devine
Yes, yes, that.
00:38:35
Natalie Richards
increasing so much to like to to prepare the endometrial lining and prepare for a pregnancy.
00:38:37
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:38:42
Natalie Richards
And we're working so much harder to do that.
00:38:42
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:38:46
Natalie Richards
So then our body naturally is going to want to kind of slow down a little bit because there's so much metabolic activity happening.
00:38:54
Felicia Devine
It just kind of drains your battery.
00:38:56
Natalie Richards
Right. so then you will be very tired if you're not nourishing yourself well. And she said you need at least 200 extra calories in the luteal phase a day.
00:39:07
Natalie Richards
Isn't that interesting?
00:39:09
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:39:10
Natalie Richards
i don't know if I've ever heard that metric where it's like, no, you actually need that much more fuel, bodily fuel to not feel
00:39:13
Felicia Devine
That's cool.
00:39:17
Felicia Devine
To be baseline.
00:39:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah, to be baseline, to not feel tired. And and that's why we feel hungry because but we've actually and have cravings because we actually are needing more metabolic fuel.
00:39:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And have cravings. You're just hungry. Yeah.
00:39:31
Natalie Richards
So that was very interesting. So I was like, I like that little little tie in where it's like, okay, temperature is increasing because your metabolic rate is increasing and you actually need more calories.
00:39:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:39
Felicia Devine
here
00:39:42
Natalie Richards
So that is fascinating to me.
00:39:43
Felicia Devine
yeah And that's just like anybody cycle. Like, it's not just, if you're trying to get pregnant, you need those 200 extra calories. Like it's to make sure that in that luteal phase, you're nourishing yourself so that you're not running on empty.
00:39:57
Natalie Richards
Yep. So that was really, really cool.
00:39:58
Felicia Devine
So it doesn't, it doesn't matter whether or not you're trying to get pregnant. That's just like a a blanket statement of like, you need a little bit more nutrients in that luteal phase and right.
00:40:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah. No, that's that's what everyone needs.
00:40:06
Natalie Richards
Right. And sometimes that may help your symptoms a little bit in the lobial phase. Maybe you won't feel as hangry.
00:40:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:12
Natalie Richards
Maybe you won't feel feel like you're you're losing it and run down and and run down and you can handle your workouts a little bit better.
00:40:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. As rundown. Yeah. Snappy. Mm-hmm.
00:40:21
Natalie Richards
Right. So it's just, that was that was an interesting metric.
00:40:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:25
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:40:26
Felicia Devine
Now, for those of us that forget when the luteal phases, the luteal phase is right after you ovulate. So it's that window between ovulation and like starting day one year period again.
00:40:31
Natalie Richards
yes
00:40:35
Natalie Richards
Yes. And closer to your period, you're going to have a little more of those symptoms.
00:40:35
Felicia Devine
So it's that, that period of time.
00:40:40
Natalie Richards
And that's why when people have like serious PMDD or PMS symptoms, it's usually, it's probably because your metabolic rate is, is getting so high at the end there.
00:40:40
Felicia Devine
is it
00:40:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:50
Natalie Richards
and you just aren't nourishing well enough.
00:40:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:52
Natalie Richards
So then you end up having having some some serious symptoms. Obviously there's more to it than that, but that was that was interesting.
00:40:58
Felicia Devine
Whole Foods.
00:41:00
Natalie Richards
So don't feel like you can't just eat a little bit more, it's okay.
00:41:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. wholeford
00:41:06
Natalie Richards
Whole foods, yeah, like these are good.
00:41:07
Felicia Devine
this
00:41:09
Natalie Richards
Focusing on good proteins, good fats, all of that stuff towards the end, because we just, we need that.
00:41:12
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:41:14
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:41:16
Natalie Richards
And the other part that was interesting to me, I don't know if anything stuck out to you when you were listening to
The Science of Hormonal Cycles
00:41:22
Natalie Richards
it.
00:41:23
Felicia Devine
I like the, well, this has more to do with the birth control thing, but the men's faces.
00:41:27
Natalie Richards
no Oh my gosh. Yeah. So go, at yes. So going back to like, to the birth control, what it changes in your brain, like you're female's brain, not on birth control will be attracted to more masculine features in a man.
00:41:31
Felicia Devine
Talk about this.
00:41:42
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:41:46
Natalie Richards
Also a certain type of fair bone, like certain smells, certain tests, they'll literally smell testosterone in men.
00:41:46
Felicia Devine
Stronger jawlines. Mm-hmm.
00:41:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah. then
00:41:54
Natalie Richards
So then when you're on birth control, it changes around the way that that your brain perceives masculine features. So it will make you more attracted to sometimes a more, a less masculine man or a man who has different, different pheromones that are maybe more attractive to you at that moment when your hormones aren't cycling.
00:42:14
Natalie Richards
And it's just crazy that, that that can happen.
00:42:16
Felicia Devine
here
00:42:19
Natalie Richards
And she said that sometimes if you met your partner when you're on birth control, sometimes you aren't as attracted to them if you go off of it, but
00:42:19
Felicia Devine
no
00:42:28
Felicia Devine
She also said, though, like when you come off of it, you might be more attracted to your partner.
00:42:32
Natalie Richards
Sometimes.
00:42:33
Felicia Devine
Because they might have more of those masculine features. And when you were on birth control, you didn't find that particular part of attraction as it important. And then when you came off the birth control and your brain received proper signaling and proper chemical input, then you became more attracted to your partner.
00:42:43
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:42:48
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:42:53
Felicia Devine
And I was like, well, thank God for that.
00:42:53
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Right.
00:42:56
Felicia Devine
Those poor girls...
00:42:57
Natalie Richards
I know. and She said it's very rare. Like it's not a super high percentage of people who like aren't attracted to their partner after.
00:42:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:04
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:43:04
Natalie Richards
Cause there's more parts to attraction than, than just that.
00:43:04
Felicia Devine
Right. Yes, exactly.
00:43:07
Natalie Richards
But it's just so fascinating that it truly changes our brain around that much.
00:43:07
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:13
Natalie Richards
yeah it's It's wild. So I highly recommend anyone read her books or listen to her to just talk. It's really, really fascinating.
00:43:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:21
Natalie Richards
Find a podcast that she's on and I'll link a couple of podcasts.
00:43:21
Felicia Devine
And we'll, we'll link the books and some of her stuff in the show notes too.
00:43:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah, because it's really, really cool to just know that stuff and to know like to know the sides.
00:43:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:33
Natalie Richards
like If you really want to be on birth control, that's fine. But just know what you're getting into instead of just going to your OB and having them tell you, no, you just need to take this.
00:43:38
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:43:42
Natalie Richards
This is your only option. And then it's like, but you don't realize all the other effects because they don't really go over that.
00:43:43
Felicia Devine
It's so sad.
00:43:48
Felicia Devine
Effects. it's It's the downline. I know.
00:43:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:51
Felicia Devine
they know.
00:43:51
Natalie Richards
So the other thing... It was kind of, it was interesting because she was noting something about like different parts of sexual desire at different parts of your cycle, because that will change depending on on where you're at in your cycle and like what a woman wants to do, right?
00:44:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:15
Natalie Richards
And she was saying that after ovulation, because your body is trying to conserve energy a little bit more because it's trying to build up that lining, you may not be like as you don't have the same type of sexual desire.
00:44:27
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:44:32
Natalie Richards
I think most people know this about themselves. If they really like listen, you crave more of like the intimacy, but not necessarily like the actual sexual desire because your body is trying to protect against foreign DNA being put into the system.
00:44:34
Felicia Devine
yeah yeah
00:44:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:49
Natalie Richards
that because it's more stuff to fight off as you would potentially be plant like implanting a pregnancy at that time.
00:44:50
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:44:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:57
Natalie Richards
So it's really just like so cool that because it's craving protection, it's craving more like intimate and protection versus like before ovulation where you'd wanna just pretty much just be having sex.
00:45:00
Felicia Devine
So it's like craving protection. So like to be like protected. Mm-hmm.
00:45:10
Natalie Richards
So it's kind of, it's really cool.
00:45:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
00:45:13
Natalie Richards
Not to say that you wouldn't throughout the whole cycle anyway, but the desire changes.
00:45:13
Felicia Devine
That is really cool.
00:45:18
Felicia Devine
yeah Yeah.
00:45:19
Natalie Richards
because of your body trying to protect itself if there were to be a pregnancy implanting.
00:45:23
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:45:25
Felicia Devine
That's so cool.
00:45:26
Natalie Richards
So cool. So there were just so many things that I was like, wow.
00:45:27
Felicia Devine
Like physiology is so wild.
00:45:30
Natalie Richards
Yeah, and that's why I love i love physiology because it's not just like, this is how the cycle works and this is you know these things happen at different times.
00:45:30
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:45:39
Natalie Richards
It's like, this is why that happens.
00:45:39
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:45:41
Natalie Richards
And I find it so, so, so cool.
00:45:41
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:45:43
Natalie Richards
So those were kind of the little things.
00:45:44
Felicia Devine
I know. Anytime we talk about, anytime we talk about that kind of stuff, I just, I don't know why, but I just think of like birds and they're like how like bird attraction works and like how like the males dance and like, they're all pretty in colors and you get to like pick your bird.
00:45:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:55
Natalie Richards
In general, like, yes.
00:45:59
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, we do that.
00:45:59
Natalie Richards
Yes. An animal attraction.
00:46:01
Felicia Devine
It's just like, we almost like downplay it, you know, like we're like, oh no, we don't like pick based on like features.
00:46:02
Natalie Richards
We do it in different ways. Mm-hmm.
00:46:08
Felicia Devine
No, we do.
00:46:09
Natalie Richards
Totally. Our brain is working in a certain way no matter what.
00:46:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Like, but we also pick on like protection and like, like, I don't know, like masculinity in itself.
00:46:13
Natalie Richards
yep
00:46:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:46:19
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:46:19
Felicia Devine
I don't, I just find it so fascinating. So I picked a good bird.
00:46:21
Natalie Richards
It's so cool.
00:46:23
Felicia Devine
Is that what, oh, is that where that saying comes from?
00:46:23
Natalie Richards
with whom Maybe.
00:46:27
Felicia Devine
Is that a saying? Or did I just think it was, picked a good bird.
00:46:28
Natalie Richards
Maybe.
00:46:31
Natalie Richards
Maybe.
00:46:31
Felicia Devine
who
00:46:32
Natalie Richards
It's just so cool.
00:46:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. It's fascinating. Mm-hmm.
00:46:36
Natalie Richards
I think if we, it's another like lesson for intuition. And if we tap into what we're feeling and not thinking that that's abnormal to be changing is just, it's a little more empowering.
00:46:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:48
Natalie Richards
So.
00:46:49
Felicia Devine
But also don't feel bad about yourself if you were on birth control when you met your husband and got married.
00:46:53
Natalie Richards
Right. No. And she did stress that. She's like, it's okay.
00:46:55
Felicia Devine
You probably still like very much love them.
00:46:56
Natalie Richards
do You will still love them.
00:46:59
Felicia Devine
It's not like you picked the wrong person.
00:47:01
Natalie Richards
No.
00:47:02
Felicia Devine
That's not what we're saying. So like if like if that is you, I'm sure you still love your husband. Disclaimer. Disclaimer.
00:47:13
Natalie Richards
Okay. Do we have anything else to talk about?
00:47:14
Felicia Devine
is
00:47:15
Natalie Richards
I kind of i just wanted to like throw those little tidbits in just round out our...
00:47:15
Felicia Devine
I don't know. No, love that.
00:47:20
Natalie Richards
our female hormone cycle situation.
00:47:22
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:47:23
Natalie Richards
Now I feel like we can move on to other topics.
00:47:26
Felicia Devine
which we What should we give the listeners to look forward to? Because I don't even know what the next topic could be.
00:47:31
Natalie Richards
I don't know either.
00:47:32
Felicia Devine
Should we talk a little bit about business soon?
00:47:34
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I think we should.
00:47:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:40
Natalie Richards
and a
00:47:40
Felicia Devine
Business, business.
00:47:40
Natalie Richards
no, we should.
00:47:41
Felicia Devine
Now was talking to, well, we'll get into it later, but we should, we should bring in some business aspects soon. And just talk about how like we're moms, but we also run businesses and we're also doctors.
00:47:52
Felicia Devine
And like, there's way more to it than just like what meets the eye.
00:47:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:57
Natalie Richards
Totally.
00:47:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I feel like this day and age, it's so common to have a female entrepreneur.
00:47:58
Natalie Richards
And how to juggle everything.
00:48:02
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:48:03
Felicia Devine
Like there's so many avenues for women to go into their own business, whether it be like your online business or you have like an Etsy shop or you're in the service industry and you have one of those like suites and you're like operating a solo business.
00:48:06
Natalie Richards
it is.
00:48:18
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:48:18
Felicia Devine
There's just so much more of it now than there has ever been.
00:48:19
Natalie Richards
we're at We're at like this weird crossroads of culture where we grew up saying we can do everything.
00:48:20
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:48:28
Natalie Richards
You can go to school, you can be a doctor, you can do all this stuff.
00:48:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:32
Felicia Devine
okay
00:48:32
Natalie Richards
And then we're also on the other hand, like, wait, we actually want to like raise our kids to the absolute best that we possibly can.
00:48:38
Felicia Devine
We,
00:48:39
Natalie Richards
And now it's like, wait, what are we doing? Now we have to do all of it.
00:48:42
Felicia Devine
i know, know.
00:48:43
Natalie Richards
And we have to like reteach our parents how like, it's a very interesting, interesting crossroads because it's, it's a recipe for burnout for sure.
00:48:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it is. i know. and like, how do we, it is, but like, how do we raise our children the way we want to raise them if we don't have money? Right.
00:49:05
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:49:06
Felicia Devine
Because like it's expensive to raise your child crunchy.
00:49:09
Natalie Richards
Yes, it is. So there's just like, there's a balance.
00:49:11
Felicia Devine
It is. So maybe we'll dive into that.
00:49:14
Natalie Richards
There's a balance. And like, there's also the independence side of it where it's like, wait, like I want to work, but like I don't.
00:49:19
Felicia Devine
Yes. is I also like I don't know what why my brain is wired the way it is, but like I don't want someone telling me what to do.
00:49:23
Natalie Richards
and said
00:49:29
Natalie Richards
Absolutely not.
00:49:29
Felicia Devine
I can't.
00:49:30
Natalie Richards
I like, i cannot.
00:49:32
Felicia Devine
It's a visceral thing.
00:49:34
Natalie Richards
It's a visceral reaction for sure.
00:49:36
Felicia Devine
It's so wild.
00:49:36
Natalie Richards
I cannot. So that's the other half of the story. I cannot do that.
00:49:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:43
Felicia Devine
So maybe we'll dive into that and talk a little bit more about like Natalie and I's experiences with like opening our businesses and how they're operating currently.
00:49:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:49:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:51
Felicia Devine
but
00:49:51
Natalie Richards
And how do we live our daily lives and not crash out?
00:49:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And not, yeah, fizzle out.
00:49:57
Natalie Richards
Maybe we do.
00:49:58
Felicia Devine
I don't know. These hormones might be a sign of crash out, burnout.
00:49:59
Natalie Richards
Maybe we crash out.
00:50:03
Natalie Richards
So that's that.
00:50:04
Felicia Devine
All right. Well, that's all for this week. We'll see you next time.
00:50:07
Natalie Richards
Bye.
00:50:08
Felicia Devine
Bye.