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Ep 15 - Spooky Motherhood: A Halloween Horror Story
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This week we lean into Halloween energy: toddlers materializing at your bedside like tiny ghosts, the sundown scaries, and why one eyelid-droop in the car nukes “sleep pressure.” We circle back to last week’s Emotion Code session with some jaw-dropping family confirmations and real-life aftereffects. We also chat light nootropic use (nicotine gum—strictly personal chat, not medical advice), diaper lore (pull-ups, blowouts, and brand wars), potty training in the trenches, sayings we’ve been mangling for decades (“bad rap,” not “bad rep”), and what it means to be a “red woman” who bleeds on the full moon—aka healer archetype vibes. Unfiltered, holistic, and very real—just how we like it.
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Transcript
Intro
Celebrating Milestones and Tea Talk
00:00:50
Natalie Richards
15 big milestone, actually.
00:00:50
Felicia Devine
Hello and welcome back to episode 15. Hey, Natalie.
00:00:53
Natalie Richards
We deserve tea. fifteen episodes this is a big milestone actually we deserve something like peppermint tea always constantly, every moment of the day i'm sweaty.
00:00:56
Felicia Devine
whoop
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Felicia Devine
is, I know, like a little fun drink.
00:01:03
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah, are you still sweaty?
Nicotine Gum Discussion: Flavors and Effects
00:01:08
Natalie Richards
ah just and you werere talking about asmr I
00:01:09
Felicia Devine
i really hope you guys couldn't hear my gulp.
00:01:13
Felicia Devine
That was so aggressive.
00:01:17
Felicia Devine
I made it. I made Natalie take her nicotine gum out because so she was chomping it in my ears. so
00:01:24
Natalie Richards
It's too overstimulating.
00:01:26
Felicia Devine
But hopefully you got all your nicotine out before I made you spit it out.
00:01:28
Natalie Richards
I did. I think it was it was it was at the tail end.
00:01:32
Felicia Devine
How long do you have to chew it before it comes out or before it's all like empty?
00:01:34
Natalie Richards
This one, honestly, I think I noticed in like 10, 15 minutes it's gone.
00:01:39
Felicia Devine
Oh, is it a flavor?
00:01:40
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It's peppermint. It's minty.
00:01:42
Felicia Devine
So when the flavor is gone, the nicotine's out?
00:01:45
Natalie Richards
Pretty much. who
00:01:46
Felicia Devine
Oh, gotcha.
00:01:47
Natalie Richards
Because you'll get like a little, with the mint, you get a little burn of the nicotine. Not burn, but like it just kind of like tingles a little. It's like a – it's a noticeable difference other than the mint.
00:01:59
Felicia Devine
It's a drug. Oh
00:02:00
Natalie Richards
It is a drug.
00:02:04
Felicia Devine
my gosh.
00:02:05
Natalie Richards
It's purely if i want my brain to be working, one milligram is all I need.
00:02:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
It turns you on.
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Natalie Richards
It's just like a little switch.
00:02:16
Felicia Devine
The light switch goes on.
00:02:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:02:18
Felicia Devine
I love it.
00:02:18
Natalie Richards
The connections are formed. ah Workouts are good.
00:02:20
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:02:22
Natalie Richards
Like everything, ah Lucy, L-U-C-Y.
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Felicia Devine
Give us the brand again of the gum. Lucy. L-U-C-Y. All right.
Personal Stories and Warnings on Nicotine Use
00:02:28
Felicia Devine
all right
00:02:28
Natalie Richards
And they have two milligram, four milligram, six milligram, I think. You would never want to be doing a normal part. Normal female really should never need to do a six. Like that's just dumb.
00:02:43
Felicia Devine
Okay, I won't.
00:02:43
Natalie Richards
You'll throw up. Like you will absolutely throw up.
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Felicia Devine
Gotcha. Okay, so I'm going to get a two.
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Natalie Richards
These guys who are like walking around and sucking on Zins all day, they're doing, i mean, 6, 12, 21.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:02:52
Natalie Richards
sex well twenty want Like there it's an insane amount of nicotine.
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Felicia Devine
They're just popping multiple.
00:02:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:02:58
Natalie Richards
So there's a sweet spot. That's too much.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:00
Natalie Richards
And I actually just listened to another
00:03:01
Felicia Devine
If you just want, like, the brain effects, just like a couple milligrams.
00:03:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Just like nootropic effect, turn the connections on in your brain. start i mean, it helps you detox. So getting things out is is a huge benefit of it.
00:03:12
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah. ah Yeah.
00:03:16
Natalie Richards
and just like tops, maybe four tops on any given day that you really want to be on.
00:03:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:03:24
Natalie Richards
And then some days you don't do any. Like ah there's plenty of days I do none.
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Felicia Devine
yeah
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Natalie Richards
But if I'm going to work out, I usually put maybe like a two milligram gum or I'll even break it in half and half. But like never really cresting over four milligrams a day for me.
00:03:41
Natalie Richards
That's
00:03:43
Felicia Devine
is This is so lovely. Okay. I'm going to get the gum.
00:03:45
Natalie Richards
funny. I think you should.
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Felicia Devine
I'm going to get the gum.
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Natalie Richards
You just like you go slow again and you can just take like a little you could do a third of a piece of a two milligram piece if you
00:03:52
Felicia Devine
Right.
Emotion Code Insights and Family Reactions
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Natalie Richards
wanted to.
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Felicia Devine
I'll choke on it, but that's fine.
00:03:55
Natalie Richards
it's Yeah. It's like super tiny.
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Felicia Devine
So does the gum disintegrate? Okay.
00:04:00
Natalie Richards
No, it's like normal gum.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:04:03
Natalie Richards
And the Lucy gum is way better than the nasty gum you would get at like Walgreens or a gas station or something.
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Felicia Devine
Oh, for like a true like tobacco addict.
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Natalie Richards
It's way better.
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Felicia Devine
Okay. Okay.
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Felicia Devine
All right.
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Natalie Richards
It's like and enjoyable gum.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
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Natalie Richards
And then there's knick-knack.
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Felicia Devine
um I might.
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Natalie Richards
Knick-knack are the lozenges and those come in like 1.5.
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Felicia Devine
Oh yeah.
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Natalie Richards
I mean, these this is like not enough to even really make you feel anything.
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Felicia Devine
Right.
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Natalie Richards
Like it's it's but somebody who actually uses nicotine would be like, what? why are you you use Why are you using one milligram?
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Felicia Devine
What's the point? Yeah.
00:04:36
Natalie Richards
Like that's silly.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay. So
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Natalie Richards
The point is not to feel a high from the nicotine.
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Felicia Devine
the right
00:04:43
Natalie Richards
That's not the point.
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Felicia Devine
So for all our listeners that have TMJ disorder, go with the lozenges.
00:04:48
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. That's true. You may want to you may want to do that.
00:04:51
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So let's recap from our emotion code episode.
00:04:57
Natalie Richards
Yes, because I got a text from you not too long after we did our release.
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Felicia Devine
Oh, and Natalie.
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Natalie Richards
You're like, Natalie, you wouldn't believe it.
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Felicia Devine
You wouldn't believe it. I, so i had to like go about my day before talked to my parents after we recorded.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
So we recorded, know.
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Natalie Richards
I know. I was waiting. i was sitting there. I was like, I know she's going to text me something.
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Felicia Devine
Yes.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
So we, i think Seppy woke up from his nap almost like right after we finished a recording finished recording and then we had to go grocery shopping and we had to hit multiple stores. So by the time we got home and unpacked and like settled, I called my parents.
00:05:39
Felicia Devine
Now my parents are three hours behind us.
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Natalie Richards
yeah
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Felicia Devine
So in Pennsylvania, we're at like, okay, i don't know time zones, Eastern time zone.
00:05:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:05:48
Felicia Devine
We're on Eastern time zone time.
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Natalie Richards
And then I'm in Central.
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Felicia Devine
Okay. And then my parents are on, don't know what that's called.
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Natalie Richards
And then there's like Mountain Standard, which is like two hours. And then there's, i think, West Coast.
00:06:01
Felicia Devine
Well, I'll just say Arizona doesn't, and we can like, we'll circle back to this because Arizona doesn't do daily savings.
00:06:05
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. That's right.
00:06:08
Felicia Devine
And so they're three hours behind us.
00:06:11
Natalie Richards
But I think they're technically Mountain Standard.
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Felicia Devine
Two.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Right.
00:06:14
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
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Felicia Devine
ah it's confusing.
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Natalie Richards
Whatever. Okay.
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Felicia Devine
So anyway, I call them. It's 3 PM for my parents. Okay. I call my mom and she answers and she's like, Oh, I'll go find your dad. And I'm like, okay. Cause like anytime I call, I liked like, they both hop on the phone so we can like just have a group chat.
00:06:29
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
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Felicia Devine
So she's like, yeah, I was just laying down to take my third nap of the day. Well,
00:06:35
Natalie Richards
And it was probably what? Like noon there for her?
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Felicia Devine
it was three.
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Natalie Richards
it was three there. Okay.
00:06:40
Felicia Devine
She was on her third nap of the day at 3 p.m.
00:06:42
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:06:44
Felicia Devine
And she's like, I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm so tired today, Felicia. And I'm like, sit down, Pammy. Buckle up.
00:06:51
Natalie Richards
Wait till I tell you what we did to you today.
00:06:52
Felicia Devine
I'm about to help blow your mind. i think I blew your mind virtually or or energetically. And so that's why you're so tired. But she was exhausted.
00:07:04
Natalie Richards
That's very normal. Like that's a very common symptom afterwards where you're just like so out.
00:07:06
Felicia Devine
Could not function.
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Felicia Devine
yeah
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Natalie Richards
You're just like, my body needs to process.
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Felicia Devine
So, yeah.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
So, like I said, like we went grocery shopping almost immediately after we finished podcasting. And I was like, Dan, I'm so fatigued right now.
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Natalie Richards
h
00:07:24
Felicia Devine
And he's like, didn't you tell me you were like thought you were getting sick last week? And I was like, yeah, well, I never got sick because I boosted my supplements.
00:07:31
Natalie Richards
Exactly.
00:07:31
Felicia Devine
Um, but I was like, I just feel so run down right now. And he's like, okay. And then obviously connecting the dots, like, duh.
00:07:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:40
Felicia Devine
Um, so I was super run down. My mom was toasted. and then i was like, okay, we got a fact checked here. Like, I was like, sit down parents.
00:07:48
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:07:49
Felicia Devine
And I went through, like all our notes and I explained to them, like, this is what we uncovered. This is what we cleared. This is what we uncovered. And I'm like, dad, I'm curious. did grandma lose a baby?
00:08:02
Felicia Devine
And he says, yes, grandma lost a baby girl.
00:08:04
Natalie Richards
That's insane.
00:08:09
Natalie Richards
It's just one of those things where i don't trust my abilities enough yet to say like, yes, like your body's telling me that your grandma on your dad's side lost a baby.
00:08:20
Felicia Devine
Yes.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Natalie Richards
I'm just kind of sitting there like, maybe, i don't know.
00:08:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. You're like, but like, that's what I'm picking up.
00:08:28
Natalie Richards
and That's what I'm picking Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Nat, you're legit.
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Natalie Richards
And then to have it be like, yeah.
00:08:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Well, okay. Even if my grandma didn't lose a baby, the fact that my mom was absolutely toast, she couldn't function that day.
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Natalie Richards
Exhausted.
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Natalie Richards
That's so wild.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah. Crazy.
00:08:49
Natalie Richards
So wild.
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Felicia Devine
So yeah. So then I talked with my mom about like the different stuff that we cleared on her side and then like my dad's side.
00:08:55
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
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Felicia Devine
And it was just like so crazy and validating that like what, what you did actually worked.
00:08:59
Natalie Richards
Ugh.
00:09:02
Natalie Richards
and through the generations.
00:09:04
Felicia Devine
Yes. And then i don't think I told you this, but that night Giuseppe had like arguably his worst night ever
00:09:05
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:09:13
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:09:14
Felicia Devine
Okay, I don't want to say ever. That's an exaggeration because he's had like sick nights that have been worse.
00:09:18
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:09:19
Felicia Devine
But like there was no sickness involved and he was hysterically crying multiple times that night um awake after we had been sleeping through the night.
00:09:22
Natalie Richards
Yep.
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Natalie Richards
Oh.
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Felicia Devine
um And so I think he was processing.
00:09:30
Natalie Richards
Right? I was hoping that wouldn't happen.
00:09:35
Felicia Devine
I know. I think he was processing. But we've had like much better nights since.
00:09:37
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
But yeah, it was like crazy.
00:09:39
Natalie Richards
How do you feel in yourself? Did you notice any difference? Because we probably have we probably have more to do in terms of like your separation from him and all of that.
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Felicia Devine
I mean, I was fatigued beyond belief.
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Felicia Devine
Right.
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Felicia Devine
Right.
00:09:52
Natalie Richards
I'm assuming there's going to be some more things we need to tap into.
00:09:55
Felicia Devine
I think there's definitely more to be done.
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Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:09:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But so he came to work with me on Thursday for an entire day.
00:10:03
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:10:03
Felicia Devine
So Dan was out of town and my mother-in-law. So like he was with me from 830 till 6 He did well, and he always does well, but like he didn't even come looking for me.
00:10:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:10:16
Felicia Devine
I don't even think one time.
00:10:17
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:10:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And like he will sneak in sometimes when I'm adjusting because we have an open office. So he'll just like peek over and like come in and like say hi to me.
00:10:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah. He's like, okay, you're there.
00:10:28
Felicia Devine
And then like when the girls have to take him away, he'll get sad about it.
00:10:28
Natalie Richards
Sure. Sure.
00:10:31
Felicia Devine
But like he didn't have, I don't think he was sad about me working at all.
00:10:36
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:39
Natalie Richards
That's crazy.
00:10:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah, he had a great day at the office.
00:10:42
Natalie Richards
well that's good. Mm-hmm.
00:10:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah. The other thing is I always adjust him on Thursdays because that's the day he comes to work with me.
Energy Healing and Chiropractic Care
00:10:48
Felicia Devine
And he sprints in there and he he tries to grab my arthurstem and he tries to climb on my table. And I'm like, OK, I guess you want your adjustment now.
00:10:54
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:10:55
Felicia Devine
So I'm adjusting him. And then he's done with his adjustments. I'm like, OK, time to get off. And he gets off the table and he tries to climb back on because he wants another adjustment.
00:11:02
Felicia Devine
He's like, he's so funny about his adjustments. He loves them.
00:11:02
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:11:05
Natalie Richards
Here's the thing. Okay. So the connection between the emotion code and chiropractic I find to be really cool because, and this is why I insist when I do muscle testing on people,
00:11:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:11:20
Natalie Richards
they have to be under chiropractic care by somebody, like by myself or somebody else.
00:11:24
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:11:26
Natalie Richards
It doesn't matter.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:11:27
Natalie Richards
You have to be getting adjusted alongside the muscle testing because when you think about the governing meridian, so as I was like swiping my hand down, if i I could reach my back, which I guess I could have done it, i would be swiping down my back as well.
00:11:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Yeah.
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Felicia Devine
Right.
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Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:11:44
Natalie Richards
no matter where you do it.
00:11:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:46
Natalie Richards
But when you think about the governing meridian is from the tip of your, top of your upper lip all the way down to pretty much your tailbone, ah governing meridian, that's where energy is stored and released from.
00:11:52
Felicia Devine
Okay.
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Felicia Devine
All right.
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Felicia Devine
yeah
00:12:00
Natalie Richards
and
00:12:00
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:12:01
Natalie Richards
that's, that's the spine. Like that's what we then adjust.
00:12:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Adjust.
00:12:06
Natalie Richards
So
00:12:06
Felicia Devine
And so we have to make sure that the energetic connections are physically able to transfer, right?
00:12:11
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:12:12
Felicia Devine
With a chiropractic adjustment, you're creating
00:12:12
Natalie Richards
Correct. Where it's not that energy isn't going to get stuck and bound again.
00:12:17
Felicia Devine
Exactly.
00:12:17
Natalie Richards
Because I think it could.
00:12:17
Felicia Devine
We're creating fluidity.
00:12:19
Natalie Richards
Exactly. So that's where like the emotion code kind of is like that cherry on top where when you clear the spine, you then can allow the rest of the body to clear the energy out as well.
00:12:24
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:12:31
Felicia Devine
Gotcha.
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Felicia Devine
Gotcha. That's really cool.
00:12:31
Natalie Richards
So.
00:12:33
Natalie Richards
That's, it's amazing. And that the, the person who, who came up with this is a chiropractor.
00:12:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:12:38
Natalie Richards
So he also, he's a chiropractor.
00:12:38
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:12:40
Natalie Richards
he um was, he, he was pretty much like given this from God is what is what his, his story is.
00:12:48
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah, it was like a
00:12:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Like it, it's come to him over like a series of different, different things as he, he would just feel that there was something else to be done for his patients and And that's how I felt too.
00:13:00
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:13:01
Natalie Richards
I'm like, there's more to this. There's people who don't clear their, like their adjustment doesn't hold. There's something else there that's preventing the body from letting go.
00:13:07
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:13:12
Natalie Richards
And that's where this is just such an amazing literal cherry on top. and So-
00:13:17
Felicia Devine
Now, what's it called to, like, find it? Like, how would I – because what if I want to become a practitioner?
00:13:23
Natalie Richards
Yeah, it's just called The Emotion Code. And you couldn you can become – like you can do it on yourself. You can read the book and kind of like get the gist of how to do it and you've seen me do it.
00:13:32
Felicia Devine
Right.
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Natalie Richards
So anybody technically can do it on themselves.
00:13:35
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
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Natalie Richards
It just you is a little different. Anybody really can do it on other people too. The practitioner course goes a lot deeper into it and gives you like the background of like how things are working a little bit more and some of the nuances in terms of like
00:13:45
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:13:52
Natalie Richards
what happens if you get this particular answer and what happens if you get this particular answer? And then you can you can advertise it then too, that you do it.
00:13:57
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah, I might have to do this.
00:14:01
Natalie Richards
So it's pretty darn cool.
00:14:02
Felicia Devine
Okay. It is very cool.
00:14:03
Natalie Richards
Pretty darn cool. I think like, yeah, the course itself, they you get six months to finish it.
00:14:11
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:14:12
Natalie Richards
So you have to like go through courses and then you have to do like certain homework in between each module. So you have to do a certain amount of sessions on people.
00:14:19
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:14:21
Natalie Richards
You have to do a certain amount of sessions on you. a certain amount of sessions on animals, and then you learn all the different than different nuances.
00:14:31
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:14:31
Natalie Richards
so It's cool.
00:14:32
Felicia Devine
How close are you to being done?
00:14:33
Natalie Richards
It's been awesome. Very close. I have like three more modules technically, but I, I, and then you have to read the whole book. So I kind of, that which I finished the book because of the audio book.
00:14:44
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:14:46
Natalie Richards
So that was good.
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Felicia Devine
Go ahead.
00:14:47
Natalie Richards
Um, so yeah, it's, it's very cool. I have until this December to technically finish it, but I'm close as long as do my follow-up sessions with people I've already done.
00:14:53
Felicia Devine
Okay.
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Felicia Devine
That's awesome.
00:15:00
Natalie Richards
It definitely, they say you can finish it in like six to eight weeks if you really buckle down, but you'd have to be, if you have nothing else going on
00:15:06
Felicia Devine
If you have no other no other priorities, yeah.
00:15:10
Natalie Richards
The really awesome thing for us though is we have ah ah constant flow of of people to work on.
00:15:16
Felicia Devine
Right. And like we're already so in tune with energy.
00:15:19
Natalie Richards
So in tune. And i there's been certain people where I'm like, I need to do this on you.
00:15:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:23
Natalie Richards
Like ah you're going to be my guinea pig.
00:15:23
Felicia Devine
I have like multiple people through my office, like different patients that I'm like, oh, I could do this on.
00:15:30
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:15:31
Felicia Devine
I love it.
00:15:32
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:15:32
Felicia Devine
All right.
00:15:33
Natalie Richards
So i i would i think you would love it just for your own
00:15:36
Felicia Devine
Well, and so so many of my patients were like, how do I get in touch with Natalie?
00:15:38
Natalie Richards
I know. think
00:15:41
Felicia Devine
How do I get an emotion code? I'm like, okay, I guess I need to become certified so that I can tap into this.
00:15:44
Natalie Richards
think you need to do it. I know. And the cool thing is, is that you can do it
00:15:47
Felicia Devine
um
00:15:50
Natalie Richards
online. Like you can you can do it completely remotely if you wanted to.
00:15:51
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:15:55
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:15:55
Natalie Richards
And that's very cool. And I think for like my life, I like that idea where I can do some things in person with chiropractic.
00:15:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:03
Natalie Richards
I have the flexibility then if I wanted to do more stuff, not having to come into the office, I can.
00:16:11
Felicia Devine
I made my first dollar.
00:16:12
Natalie Richards
So I know it's all about diversification and we're –
00:16:16
Felicia Devine
It's diversification. you know what? We are the goal is to always be moving up, you know?
00:16:22
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. And that's where i i loved this because I needed something.
00:16:23
Felicia Devine
So.
00:16:27
Natalie Richards
I needed some goal.
00:16:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:29
Natalie Richards
I needed something different. I had felt so stagnant for so long. i just was like, there's something more that I can be doing.
00:16:35
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:16:36
Natalie Richards
And here we are doing a podcast and motion code.
00:16:39
Felicia Devine
And doing emotion code and monetizing.
00:16:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:16:43
Felicia Devine
We're still looking for our first sponsor of the podcast.
00:16:46
Natalie Richards
This is true.
00:16:48
Felicia Devine
So if you want a sponsor us, let us know.
00:16:50
Natalie Richards
Oh, man.
00:16:50
Felicia Devine
Maybe Lucy Gum.
00:16:52
Natalie Richards
and Maybe should reach out.
00:16:53
Felicia Devine
a I know.
00:16:55
Natalie Richards
and tag that I'll tag them in there and our next reel.
00:16:55
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:16:58
Felicia Devine
Okay. So for our next segment of the podcast, I have an outfit change.
00:17:03
Natalie Richards
Oh, my word.
00:17:04
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:17:06
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:17:06
Felicia Devine
Okay. I'll be right back.
00:17:08
Natalie Richards
Okay. This is so funny. like your car heart, by the way.
00:17:14
Felicia Devine
It's Dan's.
00:17:17
Natalie Richards
Oh, this is funny. i this is something. Oh, stop it. I can't.
00:17:27
Natalie Richards
Felicia told me that she had an idea for today's episode and I cannot wait to see what is coming. Oh, Felicia, I love you.
Halloween Fun and Motherhood Challenges
00:17:42
Natalie Richards
Oh, my goodness. oh my gosh. Hold on. I have to take a picture. Hold on.
00:17:55
Felicia Devine
Can you hear me?
00:17:55
Natalie Richards
We have a new guest today. what?
00:17:59
Natalie Richards
This
00:18:01
Felicia Devine
but
00:18:04
Natalie Richards
is too much. I cannot.
00:18:06
Felicia Devine
Can you hear me?
00:18:08
Natalie Richards
I mean, kind of. yeah I can hear you.
00:18:11
Felicia Devine
Because I can't breathe through this thing at all.
00:18:14
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:18:17
Natalie Richards
wait I love it.
00:18:21
Natalie Richards
So for those of you not watching, highly recommend you watch what the heck we're doing on this podcast.
00:18:27
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:18:28
Natalie Richards
Felicia has a ah she had scary mask on because today we're talking about spooky motherhood.
00:18:31
Felicia Devine
so
00:18:40
Felicia Devine
Spooky.
00:18:41
Natalie Richards
Spooky because this podcast comes out, what, two, yeah, Halloween week, two days before Halloween.
00:18:44
Felicia Devine
Halloween week. Yeah.
00:18:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:18:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah. um So background on that mask.
00:18:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah. why Why do you have that?
00:18:52
Felicia Devine
So this is this is one of multiple layers of a dental oral cancer model.
00:19:01
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:19:03
Felicia Devine
This is like only like stage one.
00:19:05
Natalie Richards
Does Dan wear that for Halloween every year?
00:19:07
Felicia Devine
No, it's no, Natalie, it's patient education.
00:19:07
Natalie Richards
He should.
00:19:09
Felicia Devine
It's not a real human mask.
00:19:10
Natalie Richards
it. Oh, my God. Oh.
00:19:12
Felicia Devine
Wait, have to show you. It's on my bed. Hold on.
00:19:15
Natalie Richards
oh my gosh
00:19:21
Natalie Richards
ah This mask is disgusting for anybody who's not watching. it It's like, oh my gosh, this is horrifying. Horrifying.
00:19:33
Natalie Richards
This whole model is absolutely horrifying.
00:19:35
Felicia Devine
Okay, so, oh, it's terrifying.
00:19:37
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:19:38
Felicia Devine
When I pulled out the Halloween boxes here, Giuseppe was with me in the basement and I was like, oh, I think this is a Halloween box. Let me just see if it has what I want in it. Well, I didn't know that Dan had put this in the Halloween box face up.
00:19:50
Natalie Richards
Oh, oh my goodness.
00:19:51
Felicia Devine
I opened the box, Giuseppe screamed and jumped in my arms.
00:19:55
Natalie Richards
a
00:19:57
Felicia Devine
And I was like, yeah, that's actually terrifying.
00:19:59
Natalie Richards
ah Same.
00:20:00
Felicia Devine
So it's this full foam head, okay?
00:20:03
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:20:04
Felicia Devine
And it's layers of oral cancer.
00:20:07
Natalie Richards
Oh, oh my gosh. So all the stages.
00:20:10
Felicia Devine
Yes. And this is what happens if you smoke cigarettes.
00:20:11
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:20:15
Natalie Richards
oh my goodness.
00:20:18
Felicia Devine
Isn't that terrifying?
00:20:20
Natalie Richards
Oh, so his whole jaw is removed and wow.
00:20:20
Felicia Devine
So don't... Yeah, so this is a dental education tool.
00:20:27
Natalie Richards
Oh, wow.
00:20:29
Felicia Devine
Terrifying.
00:20:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah. and Yeah. PSA, don't smoke.
00:20:32
Felicia Devine
Don't smoke.
00:20:33
Natalie Richards
Nicotine is different than cigarettes. Okay.
00:20:37
Felicia Devine
Okay. That being said, we'll talk about real motherhood spooky things beyond oral cancer.
00:20:44
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:20:44
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:20:45
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:20:45
Felicia Devine
All right, Natalie, you want to you want to start us off with um one of the spookiest things about motherhood? Okay.
00:20:51
Natalie Richards
One of the spookiest things that I've encountered in motherhood happened not too long ago, actually.
00:20:57
Felicia Devine
Ooh, what was it?
00:20:58
Natalie Richards
um i was sleeping like a little – I was asleep.
00:21:04
Felicia Devine
was like You were asleep. That's spooky.
00:21:07
Natalie Richards
And i for some reason, I think Kyle was like half awake or something. I don't even know.
00:21:12
Felicia Devine
OK.
00:21:13
Natalie Richards
But I'm like slowly – kind of just waking up. Kind of waking up.
00:21:19
Felicia Devine
In the morning. OK.
00:21:20
Natalie Richards
Yeah, in the morning. And I'm like fluttering my eyes open. And kyle like for a moment, he like touches my arm and he goes, mama, like be be like aware. And i I'm like, what?
00:21:35
Natalie Richards
I look over and Jean is literally just standing there, just silent, just standing right no right next to my face practically.
00:21:41
Felicia Devine
In the corner of the room.
00:21:46
Natalie Richards
I look over and I'm like, oh my God, Gene.
00:21:50
Felicia Devine
He was like, hello.
00:21:51
Natalie Richards
He's like, mama, mama, are you awake?
00:21:53
Felicia Devine
oh That's scary. Now I am Now I am.
00:21:59
Natalie Richards
This kid stealthily opened his door, walks through our bathroom.
00:22:03
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:22:04
Natalie Richards
I know how he comes into our room. He comes through the bathroom around.
00:22:07
Felicia Devine
Why?
00:22:08
Natalie Richards
I don't, I have no idea.
00:22:08
Felicia Devine
Is that because the door is left open?
00:22:10
Natalie Richards
Probably.
00:22:11
Felicia Devine
Whereas your you're like regular doors, oh, so he sneaks to the bathroom.
00:22:12
Natalie Richards
Our door is is closed. um so hell ah So he'll come through the bathroom. He walks around our bed.
00:22:17
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:22:18
Natalie Richards
And for some reason, I'm usually so i'm usually so aware.
00:22:18
Felicia Devine
ah Around Kyle's side, he surpasses Kyle. Yeah.
00:22:23
Natalie Richards
I could not believe that I did not wake up. Because usually I'll hear his door like kind of creak open and I'm like, oh, great.
00:22:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:29
Natalie Richards
Here he comes.
00:22:30
Felicia Devine
Here he comes.
00:22:31
Natalie Richards
But this day he was stealthed.
00:22:33
Felicia Devine
oh my god
00:22:33
Natalie Richards
And he was just standing there staring at me. i go, Kyle, how long was he standing there? He goes, I have no idea. I just woke up and I saw and I didn't want you to like flip out. I'm like, thank goodness you touched my arm because I would have actually
00:22:46
Felicia Devine
Yes. Like punched him in the head.
00:22:49
Natalie Richards
my gosh.
00:22:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah. That's so scary.
00:22:52
Natalie Richards
um my gosh
00:22:53
Felicia Devine
my God. Actually that happened. Wait, that happened to Dan the other night. In the middle of the night, he woke up and I don't know what woke him up, but maybe this. And the dog was sitting like so squared off and so forward to Dan that it looked like this.
00:23:07
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:23:12
Felicia Devine
I mean, Josephine sitting is the size of Giuseppe.
00:23:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that's true.
00:23:17
Felicia Devine
And Dan thought Giuseppe had gotten out of his bed, opened his door. it was standing in the doorway and it
00:23:24
Natalie Richards
Well, some kids do that.
00:23:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And so he was horrified.
00:23:27
Natalie Richards
but
00:23:28
Felicia Devine
I think he woke me up and I'm like, that's, that's not nice.
00:23:33
Natalie Richards
Don't wake me up for any reason.
00:23:34
Felicia Devine
Don't wake me up. Um, I just started sleeping, but yeah, he was like jump, like it was a jump scare.
00:23:38
Natalie Richards
oh
00:23:42
Felicia Devine
Cause he thought it was the baby and like, it was the dog, but yeah, that's scary.
00:23:42
Natalie Richards
um my
00:23:48
Felicia Devine
That's spooky for sure.
00:23:50
Natalie Richards
So bad.
00:23:51
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:23:51
Natalie Richards
That's like, I don't know That's the the scariest thing that that I can think of where I was actually scared. There's a lot of other scary things that are like, what are we doing?
00:23:59
Felicia Devine
I'll I'm so I get sundown scaries not as much anymore but newborn like infancy sundown scaries oh you and you know you're not gonna sleep that was for me it was like this doom of like I'm getting tired and I know I'm not gonna be able to sleep and it was just daunting spooky
00:24:06
Natalie Richards
o
00:24:08
Natalie Richards
Because you know that like witching hour is coming. Oh, I know. I know. That, yeah. Yeah.
00:24:20
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:24:22
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I remember that vividly so bad.
00:24:28
Felicia Devine
I, well, I always swear that this will be me and then I'll probably end up with a newborn in December. um But I always tell people, I'm like, my goal is never to have a kid in the fall or the winter, like have a baby because I need, i need sunshine.
00:24:41
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You have to be able to go outside. i know.
00:24:47
Felicia Devine
I need long days. I need fresh air.
00:24:48
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:24:49
Felicia Devine
And if I like have a newborn in November, December, and I'm stuck inside and it's dark at four o'clock, I'm
00:24:53
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:24:56
Natalie Richards
I know. I know.
00:24:57
Felicia Devine
Nothing scarier.
00:24:57
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:24:58
Felicia Devine
Nothing scarier.
00:24:59
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:25:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:25:01
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:25:01
Felicia Devine
So that's my biggest fear.
Parenting Dynamics and Sleep Routines
00:25:03
Natalie Richards
Oh, speaking of getting dark at 4 o'clock, you know what's coming.
00:25:03
Felicia Devine
So I don't even know. Oh, yeah.
00:25:08
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm. Daylight savings time.
00:25:09
Felicia Devine
but The infamous daylight savings. Okay. Hear me out. I thought we voted against that.
00:25:15
Natalie Richards
I thought we did too.
00:25:16
Felicia Devine
And by we, I didn't vote, but I thought people voted against it I thought it was getting exploited.
00:25:20
Natalie Richards
thought so too.
00:25:21
Felicia Devine
And people are were like, this isn't practical for an electric society.
00:25:22
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:25:26
Natalie Richards
ah Correct. Like why do we need this anymore?
00:25:28
Felicia Devine
Because wasn't it back when I was going to say, I don't know much.
00:25:30
Natalie Richards
It's from farmers. Yeah.
00:25:33
Felicia Devine
ah Like this was not in my history book growing up, but like, wasn't it about farming and like utilizing daylight in the morning?
00:25:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah. To give them longer.
00:25:43
Felicia Devine
But like, we have lights, we have electricity.
00:25:44
Natalie Richards
Correct. And these farmers, I can tell you from experience, they are they are plowing, whatever, combining.
00:25:51
Felicia Devine
Regardless.
00:25:52
Natalie Richards
Kyle would say they're not plowing anything right now.
00:25:55
Felicia Devine
Carbining.
00:25:55
Natalie Richards
They're combining for until midnight because they have lights.
00:25:57
Felicia Devine
and Any time of day. Yeah.
00:26:02
Felicia Devine
So why are we daylight savings?
00:26:03
Natalie Richards
Why? Mm-hmm.
00:26:04
Felicia Devine
You know, Arizona has really figured it out. They don't participate. I love that for them.
00:26:11
Natalie Richards
I love that, but it just makes it so confusing.
00:26:14
Felicia Devine
It does. It does. And like, honestly, i do like the winter months for the fact that I'm two hours apart from my parents and my sister, as opposed to three hours.
00:26:22
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:26:24
Natalie Richards
Three is a lot. Three is a...
00:26:25
Felicia Devine
Three is a lot because you're hitting like different mealtimes. Like I wake up in the morning and I'm getting ready for work.
00:26:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:26:31
Felicia Devine
it's It's three o'clock in the morning in Arizona.
00:26:33
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:26:34
Felicia Devine
I can't communicate with my family. And then I get home from work and we do dinner and and bedtime and stuff. And then they're eating dinner when we're going to bed. it's
00:26:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:26:42
Felicia Devine
So two hours is much more achievable.
00:26:42
Natalie Richards
It's weird. Two hours is much better.
00:26:45
Felicia Devine
But we need to figure out where the the the politics stand in voting it out. I could have sworn people said it was done with.
00:26:49
Natalie Richards
I know. They talk about it every year. They talk about it every single year of voting it out and then it never actually happens.
00:26:55
Felicia Devine
We need to take a stance.
00:26:59
Natalie Richards
and And as far as I know, mothers with toddlers need to stand up.
00:26:59
Felicia Devine
Mothers, mothers with toddlers.
00:27:03
Felicia Devine
We need to stand. We need to vote. We need to use our voices.
00:27:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:06
Natalie Richards
And the funny thing, I remember every single year, it seems like like the past few days, Gene's been waking up a full who almost two hours before he usually does.
00:27:17
Felicia Devine
What is that about?
00:27:17
Natalie Richards
And I'm like, excuse me, sir.
00:27:19
Felicia Devine
Stop that.
00:27:20
Natalie Richards
Like, no.
00:27:22
Felicia Devine
And by two hours, what time of day is that?
00:27:22
Natalie Richards
And he will not go to – so it's like 6.30 in the morning. So like usually he wakes up at 8.30, 8, 8.30, and he is waking at 6.30.
00:27:28
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:27:29
Natalie Richards
have no idea. Yeah.
00:27:31
Felicia Devine
Why is he doing that? That spooky.
00:27:32
Natalie Richards
i have no idea But it's it happens all the time. So then I'm like, oh no, like we're going to be falling back. He's going to be waking up if that keeps happening at 530.
00:27:41
Felicia Devine
At five, wait, ah my girls at the office had to explain to me in great detail how this stuff works.
00:27:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I can't
00:27:46
Natalie Richards
even. I can't even.
00:27:48
Felicia Devine
I can't comprehend it to save my life. I don't know if I have like a learning block where I'm like, oh, I'm too old for that. Like, you know how you can't teach ah teach a grandma how to like email.
00:27:58
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:27:59
Felicia Devine
They're like, and can't teach an old dog new tricks.
00:28:01
Natalie Richards
Yep. No, I do too.
00:28:01
Felicia Devine
I, you cannot teach me about daily savings.
00:28:02
Natalie Richards
have.
00:28:03
Felicia Devine
It doesn't stick.
00:28:04
Natalie Richards
That's how feel about accounting. Taxes.
00:28:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh, taxes. Good golly.
00:28:08
Natalie Richards
I'm like, I go blank. I'm like, and somebody please take the wheel.
00:28:11
Felicia Devine
No, that and investing.
00:28:13
Natalie Richards
I can't. And then that, oh my gosh, I need some handholding.
00:28:14
Felicia Devine
Good golly. Oh, my investing guy, when we get on meetings with him, Dan's like, okay, like Dan and the investing man, Sean talk like legitimate terms.
00:28:19
Natalie Richards
ah
00:28:27
Felicia Devine
And I go play aggressive, Sean play aggressive on a level of zero to 10, 10 out of 10.
00:28:31
Natalie Richards
Now's the time.
00:28:33
Felicia Devine
He's like, are you sure? He's like verifying with Dan.
00:28:35
Natalie Richards
who
00:28:35
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I don't know what real terms are, but I want to be aggressive.
00:28:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah, now's the time to do that.
00:28:40
Felicia Devine
So anyway, I don't, I don't know anything.
00:28:40
Natalie Richards
I know all these things. Like I know like, but I, but how do I actually do this is the, is the thing. I just need to have somebody do it for me.
00:28:49
Felicia Devine
All I know is I am trying to set Giuseppe up for success and that's why I'm like, be aggressive.
00:28:52
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:28:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah, absolutely.
00:28:57
Felicia Devine
i don't know.
00:28:57
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:28:58
Felicia Devine
It could bite me.
00:28:58
Natalie Richards
i know as far as I go right now is a high yield savings account.
00:29:00
Felicia Devine
It could bite me.
00:29:02
Natalie Richards
So actually, no, I have more.
00:29:02
Felicia Devine
Oh my God.
00:29:03
Natalie Richards
I have more than that, but
00:29:04
Felicia Devine
aye Nothing brings me more joy than remembering I have secret savings accounts.
00:29:09
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:29:10
Felicia Devine
And they're not like actually a secret. Like they're both of ours, but I forget.
00:29:13
Natalie Richards
But you forget about them and that's the point.
00:29:15
Felicia Devine
And then I'm like, Oh my God, it grew a lot.
00:29:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:29:18
Felicia Devine
Cause I forgot about it for a year.
00:29:19
Natalie Richards
Yes, I know. I forget about my Roth and then I like look at it it and again I'm like, oh, good, perfect.
00:29:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:29:24
Natalie Richards
I didn't do anything to it.
00:29:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. My direct deposit goes split up between a couple of different things and one, it like trickles into my high yield savings.
00:29:30
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's good.
00:29:33
Natalie Richards
Good. Uh-huh.
00:29:33
Felicia Devine
But again, I forget about that. So like so much time will go by and then I'll look at it and I'm like, Oh, I love this.
00:29:39
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:29:40
Felicia Devine
It's looking fat.
00:29:41
Natalie Richards
Can you direct deposit right into a high yield savings account? Yeah, I need to do that.
00:29:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I use, um so I have a couple, but the one I'm thinking that goes from my paycheck is through ally.
00:29:52
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:29:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:29:54
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I have i have one. i need to just I guess, yeah, it has a bank account number and a routing number.
00:29:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:29:59
Natalie Richards
i don't know why I can't just have it set up.
00:29:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. I just split my, i split my paycheck.
00:30:04
Natalie Richards
Who do you use for payroll?
00:30:06
Felicia Devine
It's a local company. It's NCR.
00:30:08
Natalie Richards
Oh, it is. Okay. I just go through QuickBooks because it's easy.
00:30:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh, yeah. They like take out taxes. They do all my payroll like um employer and employee stuff.
00:30:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah. That's what... Yeah.
00:30:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:30:19
Felicia Devine
It's easy peasy.
00:30:20
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:30:21
Felicia Devine
um
00:30:21
Natalie Richards
Thank goodness for people who know more than we do.
00:30:22
Felicia Devine
Talk about scary.
00:30:24
Natalie Richards
oh
00:30:24
Felicia Devine
Talk about spooky payroll.
00:30:26
Natalie Richards
e
00:30:26
Felicia Devine
Oh, I have.
00:30:27
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:30:28
Felicia Devine
I think we're at seven employees now.
00:30:32
Natalie Richards
Wow. Yes.
00:30:32
Felicia Devine
that include I'm an employee.
00:30:34
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:30:34
Felicia Devine
So six other people and me, seven people i have on payroll.
00:30:37
Natalie Richards
Wow. That's a lot.
00:30:40
Felicia Devine
It is a lot. Oh, that is putting food on people's table.
00:30:41
Natalie Richards
Oof.
00:30:44
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm.
00:30:46
Felicia Devine
Woo. That's frightening.
00:30:47
Natalie Richards
A pressure.
00:30:49
Felicia Devine
Um, okay. What are some, Oh, another spooky thing about motherhood wake windows.
00:30:55
Natalie Richards
Oh, my gosh. Also, i have i wish i never even i wish I never even listened to them. i really do
00:31:03
Felicia Devine
I didn't know wake window was a thing until he was like seven months old. And I read a book and it was like, oh, the newborn wake window.
00:31:06
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:31:09
Felicia Devine
I go wake window.
00:31:10
Natalie Richards
I know. I just, i wish, yeah.
00:31:11
Felicia Devine
My kids never slept though. So he had, he was awake the whole time. The window was wide open.
00:31:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, newborn wake windows? Uh-uh. Gene was awake. He, I, that kid, unless he was like actively nursing half asleep, then he would sleep.
00:31:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. Right. I remember our newborn.
00:31:27
Natalie Richards
Or in the baby carrier.
00:31:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Our newborn photo shoot. He was awake for like six hours straight. And like I was like, this doesn't seem like it's right.
00:31:39
Natalie Richards
I really think kids will sleep when they need to sleep. I don't know. I know.
00:31:44
Felicia Devine
I don't know. Natalie.
00:31:44
Natalie Richards
they ah They will eventually.
00:31:46
Felicia Devine
Seppi needs to sleep.
00:31:47
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:31:49
Felicia Devine
He needs to sleep.
00:31:49
Natalie Richards
i just – I'm not sure. i'm not sure.
00:31:50
Felicia Devine
I don't know. Maybe it's creating like, I don't know. He's like building up his sleep pressure for when he's like a teenager.
00:31:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:31:58
Felicia Devine
I don't know. Sleep pressure is another thing.
00:32:00
Natalie Richards
Sleep pressure is another thing.
00:32:00
Felicia Devine
That's stressful.
00:32:02
Natalie Richards
Making sure they are tired enough.
00:32:03
Felicia Devine
Oh, well, and like, oh, they close their eyes in the car seat and then it's like their sleep pressure.
00:32:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah. like no
00:32:10
Felicia Devine
It's like you released a cooker, ah pressure cooker valve.
00:32:12
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:32:13
Felicia Devine
There goes all your sleep pressure.
00:32:15
Natalie Richards
Yep. Like truly the, the first nod of the eyeballs and you're no, no.
00:32:17
Felicia Devine
Gone. Yeah. yeah um Wake up. I remember driving to work. Sep would try and fall asleep driving to work sometimes because he didn't sleep well at night.
00:32:29
Felicia Devine
So then like one hour into his being awake during the day, he was trying to fall asleep in the car.
00:32:29
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:32:32
Natalie Richards
Oh, Jean would do that all the time.
00:32:34
Felicia Devine
I would like roll the windows down and turn up the music and be like, Giuseppe.
00:32:36
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:32:37
Felicia Devine
I would be like, yeah i not yelling at him in a mad way, but I'd be like, I'd be like alerting him.
00:32:37
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:32:40
Natalie Richards
Oh, no, no, no. I've done it. Been there, done that. I think everyone has done that.
00:32:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, we cannot fall asleep on the way to work because then that ruins his first nap at work. And then that throws off our nursing schedule. And I'm like, whoa.
00:32:55
Natalie Richards
Yep. And it does.
00:32:56
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:32:56
Natalie Richards
It throws off everything. I know. And we have had to rely more on schedules than I probably would like to because that's how we have to survive because we have to work.
00:33:04
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah.
00:33:07
Felicia Devine
Right. We see patients. Yeah.
00:33:09
Natalie Richards
so ah so So I wish I never had to rely on a schedule at all.
00:33:16
Felicia Devine
I know. i do I do really love the like fluidity of moms that just like my baby sleeps when we sleep and we're awake when we're awake and we go to bed when we go to bed.
00:33:26
Felicia Devine
Like I really like that for them.
00:33:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I know.
00:33:29
Felicia Devine
But it just like that doesn't fly.
00:33:30
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:33:32
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:33:33
Felicia Devine
Because I know we have to be up and out of the house for work at this time and you are coming with me whether we like it or not.
00:33:40
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:33:41
Felicia Devine
And sometimes I've had to wake step up for work and that makes me so sad.
00:33:41
Natalie Richards
Yep. Oh, I do that all the time. I scoop Gene up in his blanket asleep and he like – yeah.
00:33:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Do you?
00:33:49
Natalie Richards
And then he will either wake up or he goes right back to sleep in the car.
00:33:51
Felicia Devine
Will he stay asleep?
00:33:54
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:33:55
Natalie Richards
h and So sometimes I just do it and we just – he wears what he wears.
00:33:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I know.
00:34:02
Natalie Richards
Sometimes that's a diaper and I bring clothes along with it.
00:34:05
Felicia Devine
Does he sleep in just a diaper?
00:34:05
Natalie Richards
I just seem like he he's insistent on it now. And he's just like, yeah, he I i don't know.
00:34:10
Felicia Devine
No clothes. Why? Is he hot?
00:34:14
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I don't know. He likes you know what?
00:34:15
Felicia Devine
Well, he's in a mountain of blankets.
00:34:17
Natalie Richards
yeah he You know what it is?
00:34:18
Felicia Devine
He likes a sensory.
00:34:18
Natalie Richards
He has to feel his blanket.
00:34:20
Felicia Devine
Yes, he does.
00:34:21
Natalie Richards
He has to feel his blanket on his entire body. And boy, if he could sleep even without a diaper, he probably would.
00:34:24
Felicia Devine
I get it.
00:34:27
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:34:28
Natalie Richards
And he just, he refuses to wear a pull-up.
00:34:28
Felicia Devine
Is he in like a pull-up or is he in a real diaper? So he doesn't take his diaper off.
00:34:33
Natalie Richards
He, mm-mm.
00:34:35
Felicia Devine
Oh, Giuseppe started picking at his flaps.
00:34:38
Natalie Richards
he has a problem. he has an attach He has an attachment to his diapers at this point.
00:34:39
Felicia Devine
That sounded really weird.
00:34:43
Felicia Devine
Oh, oh.
00:34:43
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. And he like, mm-hmm.
00:34:47
Felicia Devine
Step has to have like his diaper has to be covered because he'll pick at the Velcro.
00:34:47
Natalie Richards
It's a problem. Mm-hmm.
00:34:51
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:34:52
Felicia Devine
And so I just started putting him in pull-ups like three days ago.
00:34:55
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:34:55
Felicia Devine
Now he can sleep with just the diaper on the bottom and like a shirt with his sleep sack because he goes, he goes complete worm.
00:35:00
Natalie Richards
Right. Yes.
00:35:04
Felicia Devine
He sucks both arms in his sleep sack and he's like a literal worm just like rolling about his bed with no arms.
00:35:07
Natalie Richards
This is so cute.
00:35:11
Natalie Richards
Just rolling around. That's so cute.
00:35:14
Felicia Devine
I know. So, but if, when he does that before I realized he would like take his diaper on and off.
00:35:15
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:35:20
Natalie Richards
I see. Mm-hmm.
00:35:21
Felicia Devine
So he would have to sleep with like a pair of pants or like a full onesie.
00:35:23
Natalie Richards
Yep. Something barrier. Yeah.
00:35:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:35:26
Felicia Devine
Um, but the, the, the actual pull-up doesn't have flaps.
00:35:28
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:35:30
Felicia Devine
So he doesn't like mess with it.
00:35:32
Natalie Richards
That makes sense. Yeah.
00:35:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:34
Natalie Richards
I have all these pull-ups for Gene and he will he refuse he will scream if I try to put that on him.
00:35:39
Felicia Devine
So how do you, does he lay down to do a diaper still?
00:35:39
Natalie Richards
have no idea why. Yeah.
00:35:43
Felicia Devine
Oh, okay.
00:35:43
Natalie Richards
ah Yeah.
00:35:44
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:35:44
Natalie Richards
He just knows. they just right This kid, I don't know.
00:35:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No, that's fine. I think, I don't know.
00:35:50
Natalie Richards
It is what it is.
00:35:51
Felicia Devine
Are pull-ups more expensive or cheaper?
00:35:53
Natalie Richards
i think they're more expensive.
00:35:55
Felicia Devine
Because I know.
00:35:56
Natalie Richards
You get less of them for the same amount of money.
00:35:57
Felicia Devine
Right. Right.
00:35:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:35:59
Felicia Devine
Well, I used pull-ups for SEP when he was like eight months old, I think, because he was like an alligator.
00:36:05
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:36:06
Felicia Devine
And so I would just use pull-ups because I'm like, I'm not wrestling you.
00:36:08
Natalie Richards
remember you saying that. Yeah.
00:36:09
Felicia Devine
I'm not wrestling you. And then once he started laying again for diaper changes, we went back to um diapers because Coterie, that brand was more expensive for pull-up.
00:36:10
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:36:15
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:36:19
Natalie Richards
That, yes. Mm-hmm.
00:36:21
Felicia Devine
But I don't, I mean, I didn't even look at the price of the pull-ups I just bought, but I got like Millie Moon.
00:36:27
Natalie Richards
That's what I have too.
00:36:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:36:28
Natalie Richards
that's Those are the ones that I bought.
00:36:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:30
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I wish you would wear them.
00:36:30
Felicia Devine
But man, I love a coterie diaper.
00:36:33
Natalie Richards
I know you do.
00:36:34
Felicia Devine
Gosh.
00:36:35
Natalie Richards
They're like a cult.
00:36:36
Felicia Devine
Oh, and it's like, I mean, it's literally like you can't unfeel how soft they are.
00:36:37
Natalie Richards
Coterie.
00:36:42
Felicia Devine
I mean, if you put Jean in a coterie, good Lord, he would be obsessed.
00:36:43
Natalie Richards
It's true. That kid would never come out of diapers ever. God, I'm trying to potty train this kid.
00:36:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:50
Natalie Richards
And he's like already obsessed with his ah Thrive Market diaper.
00:36:54
Felicia Devine
His certain diaper. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I don't know. he
00:36:59
Felicia Devine
Okay, so, yeah.
00:36:59
Natalie Richards
We're working on it. He's doing okay. Potty training, also scary.
00:37:03
Felicia Devine
Scary.
00:37:04
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:37:04
Felicia Devine
I'm doing it. We're potty training.
00:37:05
Natalie Richards
I wish – God, I wish I would have – wish I would have done elimination communication, truthfully. I wish I would have just – I didn't have it in me either.
00:37:13
Felicia Devine
I didn't have the, I did not have that capacity. Uh-uh.
00:37:17
Natalie Richards
Like that – no.
00:37:18
Felicia Devine
I also wish I cloth diapered.
00:37:18
Natalie Richards
Now, that wasn't going to happen.
00:37:20
Felicia Devine
Didn't have it in me. Yeah. Yep.
00:37:22
Natalie Richards
That was like a perfect world scenario. There was no way that was happening.
00:37:24
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:37:26
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:37:26
Natalie Richards
I can't imagine – this is a confession.
00:37:30
Natalie Richards
i can't believe it.
00:37:32
Felicia Devine
Expose yourself, Natalie.
00:37:34
Natalie Richards
if he If he had a blowout through clothes, I would just throw him away. I'm like, I'm not – I'm not – I did plenty of times.
00:37:39
Felicia Devine
You did?
00:37:42
Natalie Richards
Not every time. But if he would have like a massive blowout, I'm like, I'm literally not dealing with this. I do not have the ability to actually sit here and hand wash this poop out of this outfit.
00:37:55
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:37:55
Natalie Richards
It's going in the trash.
00:37:56
Felicia Devine
What's a crazier confession is Sep had three blowouts at minimum a day in his outfits.
00:38:01
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:38:03
Felicia Devine
At minimum, every single poop came out.
00:38:03
Natalie Richards
Holy moly. What?
00:38:06
Felicia Devine
Every single one.
00:38:07
Natalie Richards
So much for those coterie diapers.
00:38:09
Felicia Devine
Well, wasn't using Coterie at the time because they didn't fit him.
00:38:10
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:38:11
Felicia Devine
His proportions were weird. I am convinced I never found the right proportion because every poop came out, no matter what brand I used.
00:38:13
Natalie Richards
That's right.
00:38:17
Natalie Richards
That's so wild. It just was him.
00:38:19
Felicia Devine
Every Natalie, you would have thought I was, I was hand washing and hang drying every article of clothing for fun, but it was literally, I would have a clothing rack outside all summer long because he blew out every outfit.
00:38:22
Natalie Richards
Oh
00:38:27
Natalie Richards
oh my gosh.
00:38:33
Natalie Richards
Oh yeah, I can't do that.
00:38:34
Felicia Devine
I would come home from work with a trash bag, like a little mini trash bag Fran would put together of all the blowouts he had that day all day long. I had to bring three outfits with me to work minimum.
00:38:45
Felicia Devine
He blew out everything. So A, I would be broke.
00:38:46
Natalie Richards
would have lost it.
00:38:47
Felicia Devine
And B, he would have no clothing.
00:38:49
Natalie Richards
That's true. they're really i could count on my I can count on one hand the amount of blowouts Jean ever had. like There were not many, not many.
00:38:58
Felicia Devine
Whoa. Oh, okay. I couldn't figure out Sepp's proportions.
00:39:03
Natalie Richards
that's
00:39:03
Felicia Devine
None of his diapers fit right. He also, at the beginning, would pee out so often.
00:39:08
Natalie Richards
Interesting.
00:39:08
Felicia Devine
i finally figured that out, but it was every poop.
00:39:11
Natalie Richards
oh my gosh.
00:39:12
Felicia Devine
Quite literally, every poop.
00:39:13
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:39:14
Felicia Devine
But I will take that over a constipated baby.
00:39:17
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:39:19
Felicia Devine
ah hundred percent.
00:39:20
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:39:21
Felicia Devine
So really got to pick your battles.
00:39:24
Felicia Devine
And I was picking and choosing to hand wash and air dry and sun bleach multiple outfits a day.
00:39:29
Natalie Richards
oh my God.
00:39:34
Felicia Devine
We luckily had a very sunny summer that that year.
00:39:38
Felicia Devine
Anyway, back to potty training. So yeah, we're both in the thick potty training.
00:39:39
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:39:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah. It's not fun. And he, Gene really, you're so, you're at the perfect age to actually do it.
00:39:44
Felicia Devine
I love it, but it's because we're like so young and there's no pressure.
00:39:51
Natalie Richards
And Gene was, he was going in the potty even way back then and he would do it and he would, he loved it.
00:39:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:57
Natalie Richards
And then I just didn't stick with it.
00:39:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh yeah.
00:40:01
Natalie Richards
And then he became attached to his diaper.
00:40:02
Felicia Devine
Well, I, I'm trying to do.
00:40:03
Natalie Richards
And the same thing with his pacifier. It's the same way. I wish I would have taken it away at like 10 months.
00:40:06
Felicia Devine
hmm.
00:40:10
Natalie Richards
And then, so it was the same, the same situation. And then he just like, it's pretty much gone.
00:40:14
Felicia Devine
Did you get rid of it yet? Okay.
00:40:17
Natalie Richards
It's gone except for in the car because we're in the car for so long and he had just like needs something.
00:40:19
Felicia Devine
Oh, all right.
00:40:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Need something. Yeah.
00:40:25
Natalie Richards
So, but other than that, it's gone.
00:40:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:28
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah. I mean, Sep just started like pointing at his diaper and then I would realize he would go potty.
00:40:33
Natalie Richards
He would go potty. That's so funny. That's great.
00:40:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I'm like, okay, well, i'll I'll start. And like there is really not a lot of pressure. Like I offer it a couple times a day.
00:40:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:40:41
Felicia Devine
If he tells me we take him the potty, like it's 1 o'clock in the afternoon.
00:40:43
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:40:45
Felicia Devine
He's already had two poops on the potty today and like three peas.
00:40:47
Natalie Richards
Perfect. Perfect.
00:40:49
Felicia Devine
And like if he poops – but he like woke up with a poopy diaper.
00:40:49
Natalie Richards
That's really all it is.
00:40:52
Felicia Devine
So I'm like it it is what it is.
00:40:53
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:40:53
Felicia Devine
Why has he pooped three times today?
00:40:54
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:40:55
Felicia Devine
That's odd. Oh, well.
00:40:57
Natalie Richards
That's – my mom would always be like, Gene has pooped like three times today. I go, yeah he just does. I don't know. This kid poops three times a day.
00:41:05
Felicia Devine
He's clearing out.
00:41:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:41:06
Felicia Devine
He's clearing out. Yeah.
00:41:08
Natalie Richards
and Speaking of that, there was one week when Gene was like really little, like infancy.
00:41:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:15
Natalie Richards
And he – it was like five days that he went without pooping. And that was like being adjusted and like and I'm like, dude.
00:41:20
Felicia Devine
The longest of it. Yeah.
00:41:23
Natalie Richards
But I really think it was like a ah growth spurt where he just was literally absorbing every ounce of ah nutrients that he was taking in.
00:41:27
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:41:30
Felicia Devine
What you were giving him. Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:33
Natalie Richards
um But like now I was thinking about probiotics and stuff as as an infant.
00:41:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:38
Natalie Richards
I don't think I ever gave them to him as an infant. But we do now. And he begs for them.
00:41:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:41:44
Natalie Richards
Like his vitamins, he knows where the drawer is and he brings them all to me.
00:41:45
Felicia Devine
Oh, what do you give him?
00:41:49
Natalie Richards
And he's like, mama, I need my probiotic. And then he goes, I need my other probiotic. And need my multivitamin. And I need my Omega Fishy. And he's – Most of them are just – are various like different gummies and stuff.
00:41:56
Felicia Devine
Oh, make fishy.
00:42:03
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:42:03
Natalie Richards
so
00:42:04
Felicia Devine
Have you heard of grooms?
00:42:05
Natalie Richards
I have heard of those.
00:42:06
Felicia Devine
I've heard kids like those.
00:42:07
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:42:08
Felicia Devine
I don't know how old you have to be.
00:42:08
Natalie Richards
he eats enough He eats enough like greens and veggies.
00:42:13
Felicia Devine
ah is that what it is?
00:42:14
Natalie Richards
that's pretty It's just a whole food veggie like gummy pretty much.
00:42:15
Felicia Devine
Oh. oh Oh. Sep's a good eater.
00:42:19
Natalie Richards
So I'm like, I don't know. I don't know that I – I don't know. So he takes the Megaspore gummies, the kids' gummies.
00:42:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:25
Felicia Devine
yeah Okay.
00:42:27
Natalie Richards
Those are actually like really good. I wish they made an adult one because they're really good.
00:42:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. You'd have to eat 300 of them.
00:42:33
Natalie Richards
They're really good. um And then he takes like a Metagenics, like normal probiotic, which is a chewable.
00:42:39
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:42:40
Natalie Richards
it's like a grape. chewable and he actually likes that.
00:42:42
Felicia Devine
Oh, nice.
00:42:43
Natalie Richards
And the Nordic Naturals Vitamin C and then the Nordic Naturals little Omega-3 fishies.
00:42:48
Felicia Devine
and
00:42:53
Natalie Richards
And they're like they in like foil packaging. So you pop them out and it's like a fresh, like a they don't go rancid, which is amazing.
00:42:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:02
Felicia Devine
Oh, i hear what you're saying.
00:43:04
Natalie Richards
So they they're super fresh.
00:43:04
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:43:05
Natalie Richards
Like every one you take out has not been exposed to air pretty much.
00:43:09
Felicia Devine
Okay. Is it a chewable?
00:43:11
Natalie Richards
it's a It's like a really gump gelatin-y gummy, like a floppy gummy.
00:43:15
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:43:16
Natalie Richards
It's like in the shape of a little fish.
00:43:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Does it look like a fish?
00:43:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So he loves those.
00:43:19
Felicia Devine
Oh, cute.
00:43:21
Natalie Richards
And then – um The Smarty Pants organic version is actually like a really good quality vitamin.
00:43:27
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:43:32
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:43:32
Natalie Richards
The other Smarty Pants I don't love.
00:43:35
Felicia Devine
Natalie, you need to film rundown.
00:43:37
Natalie Richards
I should. I'll send. Yeah, I will.
00:43:39
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:43:39
Natalie Richards
Because he brings them to me every day and he says, Mama, I need my vitamins. And I actually have to like cut him off from his vitamins.
00:43:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:47
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:43:48
Felicia Devine
I have to cut stuff up from his homeopathy. This morning, begging for his teething homeopathy.
00:43:52
Natalie Richards
Isn't that funny?
00:43:53
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, okay, if he's begging for it, he probably wants it.
00:43:55
Natalie Richards
probably needs it.
00:43:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I'm like, if it doesn't, if your body doesn't need that, it won't process it.
00:43:57
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:44:01
Felicia Devine
So I'm like, it does not matter to me.
00:44:01
Natalie Richards
Yep. It's not a big deal.
00:44:05
Felicia Devine
If that's what's going to float your boat, then fine.
00:44:07
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:44:09
Felicia Devine
He's pushing molars. That's spooky.
00:44:10
Natalie Richards
Oh, that is spooky teething.
00:44:13
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:44:13
Natalie Richards
Spooky. The second you think things are going well.
00:44:15
Felicia Devine
Spooky. Boom, a tooth.
00:44:18
Natalie Richards
Oh, tooth.
00:44:20
Felicia Devine
Four teeth.
00:44:21
Natalie Richards
Literally all at the same time. oh no.
00:44:24
Felicia Devine
oh He bit my arm the other day.
00:44:27
Natalie Richards
What?
00:44:27
Felicia Devine
were FaceTiming my family and he was doing like flips and he is the most acrobatic baby. And I say that because I'm like not familiar with.
00:44:34
Natalie Richards
Okay. That's so funny because Gina's so not that way.
00:44:38
Felicia Devine
He already does somersaults.
00:44:40
Natalie Richards
That's so funny.
00:44:41
Felicia Devine
Um, so he loves like doing flips and somersaults and we like throw them around and we hang them upside down and he's like literally constantly in motion.
00:44:47
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:44:49
Felicia Devine
So he was flipping over his triangle, um cushion for the nugget couch and he goes over it like 400 times in a session. It's just like, no, no, no, Well, my arm was leaning on it because I was kind of like relaxing and then we were FaceTiming and he goes to go over it and then he kind of pauses and I'm like, oh, maybe he's stuck.
00:45:08
Felicia Devine
he bites down on my arm through my sweater.
00:45:10
Natalie Richards
He was like probably saying, Mom, get your arm off of my couch.
00:45:14
Felicia Devine
I was, i screamed.
00:45:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:16
Felicia Devine
I go, like, I actually screamed. And my parents were like, what happened? I'm like, he just bit me. He's never bit me.
00:45:21
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. He really, he was saying, get your arm off.
00:45:22
Felicia Devine
And it wasn't.
00:45:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Which was so weird because ah but my arm was on it the whole time. Um, and he didn't do it again.
00:45:29
Natalie Richards
Oh my, oh my gosh.
00:45:29
Felicia Devine
he he just looked at me like, Oh yeah.
00:45:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I did something bad.
00:45:33
Felicia Devine
And I didn't scream at him. I just screamed out loud, you know?
00:45:35
Natalie Richards
who
00:45:36
Felicia Devine
Um, but that was crazy.
00:45:37
Natalie Richards
Which I feel like is appropriate.
00:45:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah, no, I mean, it scared me.
00:45:40
Natalie Richards
It obviously,
00:45:41
Felicia Devine
It didn't break skin or anything, but it scared me.
00:45:43
Natalie Richards
no. oh my word.
00:45:44
Felicia Devine
Those baby teeth are like puppy teeth.
00:45:47
Natalie Richards
Yes, they are.
00:45:47
Felicia Devine
They're so sharp. ah
00:45:51
Natalie Richards
They've got to break through the skin. They've got to be sharp.
00:45:52
Felicia Devine
I know. Did Gene ever bite you when he was nursing?
00:45:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah, like a couple times.
00:45:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:00
Natalie Richards
hu i every time i Every time I hear like a ah lactation consultant or something talk about biting, they're like, don't react. Like how do you not react?
00:46:11
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry.
00:46:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:46:13
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry. My nervous system is attuned to throw that baby across the room.
00:46:17
Natalie Richards
Literally like.
00:46:20
Felicia Devine
One time though, I think the only time he ever bit me while we were like actively nursing, I was holding my shirt up on that side and he was nursing, nursing, nursing.
00:46:27
Natalie Richards
Oh yeah.
00:46:30
Felicia Devine
I'm like chatting with Dan. He bit me. My hand was so close to his face. I backhanded him.
00:46:34
Natalie Richards
Oh, for it's purely reflexive.
00:46:35
Felicia Devine
On accident. I mean, I don't want to say accident because it was a reflex.
00:46:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:46:39
Felicia Devine
And it wasn't hard because I only had to move three inches.
00:46:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah. But you know what?
00:46:42
Felicia Devine
But he he never bit me again.
00:46:42
Natalie Richards
Maybe he learned exactly.
00:46:45
Felicia Devine
He never bit me again, except for when he was asleep on the airplane attached.
00:46:48
Natalie Richards
Okay. That makes sense.
00:46:49
Felicia Devine
And he had like a twitch.
00:46:50
Natalie Richards
And it's kind of like a like a little...
00:46:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:52
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:46:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. um But yeah, that was short-lived because I said not today.
00:46:55
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:46:58
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm. Mm-mm-mm.
00:46:59
Felicia Devine
Nope. I snipped that in the butt.
00:47:00
Natalie Richards
New, new, new, new.
00:47:02
Felicia Devine
What is the phrase? Nip it in the
00:47:04
Natalie Richards
Nip it in the bud. Uh-huh.
00:47:06
Felicia Devine
B-U-D? and Well, I've for 32 years been saying nip it in the butt.
00:47:10
Natalie Richards
You are not alone. There are so many people who say that.
00:47:13
Felicia Devine
You know what, Natalie?
Common Sayings and Mystical Topics
00:47:16
Felicia Devine
Fun fact about me. I say a lot of a lot of phrases wrong.
00:47:21
Felicia Devine
You want to know another one?
00:47:21
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:47:22
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Tell me another one and then I have another question.
00:47:25
Felicia Devine
I learned this like two years ago, maybe. I used to say play it by year, like the year 2000. Yeah. And my brother goes, what did you say? I said, play it by ear. He goes, that's not it.
00:47:36
Felicia Devine
I go, what is it? He says, it's play it by ear because it means you're supposed to listen to something and play it by listening.
00:47:40
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:42
Felicia Devine
I go, that's actually crazy. Why? Who didn't tell me that? I'm 30 years old and no one told me it was play it by ear.
00:47:50
Natalie Richards
ah Okay. I have another one. i have a question because I truly don't know what it is, what the proper thing is I think I know what it is, but I think everyone says it wrong.
00:47:52
Felicia Devine
What's another one?
00:47:55
Felicia Devine
Okay. I won't know it because I'm so bad at phrases. Tell me.
00:48:00
Natalie Richards
Okay. we You would say it like you've got a bad rap, but it's not rap.
00:48:06
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:48:07
Natalie Richards
It's got to be rep, reputation. It's got to be bad rep, but everybody says
00:48:17
Felicia Devine
what ah What if it's like rapture? No, wait, that's not a word.
00:48:19
Natalie Richards
it's maybe it stands Maybe it stands for something else.
00:48:20
Felicia Devine
or Well, let me Google it.
00:48:22
Natalie Richards
But like how is it not – no, I don't know the answer.
00:48:24
Felicia Devine
Do you know the answer?
00:48:26
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:48:26
Natalie Richards
like In my mind, it has to be rep because it's a bad – he's got a bad reputation.
00:48:32
Natalie Richards
And then it's just gotten shorted.
00:48:33
Felicia Devine
Who are you hanging out with that uses this term so often?
00:48:35
Natalie Richards
i was listening to a ah I was listening to a podcast today and she was saying like something got a bad rep. And I'm like it can't be a bad rep. It's got to be a bad rep.
00:48:49
Natalie Richards
Reputation.
00:48:50
Felicia Devine
Okay. Well, there's there's big signals on the Google. Okay.
00:48:53
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:48:54
Felicia Devine
He's got a bad rap, R-A-P, which means he has a negative reputation, which may or may not be deserved. Origin of the term, the word rap in this context is related to an old sense of the word meaning reprimand or criticism.
00:49:09
Felicia Devine
It evolved from physical punishment, sharing criminal charges for a rap sheet.
00:49:09
Natalie Richards
Hmm.
00:49:14
Natalie Richards
A rap sheet. Okay. Makes sense.
00:49:16
Felicia Devine
Criminal record.
00:49:17
Natalie Richards
Criminal record rap sheet.
00:49:17
Felicia Devine
Okay, so it is a rap, but I like rep.
00:49:18
Natalie Richards
Okay. A rap. Okay.
00:49:21
Felicia Devine
He's got a bad rep.
00:49:23
Natalie Richards
A bad rap. Bad reputation.
00:49:24
Felicia Devine
I think that, I think, I think, I guess.
00:49:25
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I guess it means the same thing, but it probably the saying, I guess, is rap in relation to a rap sheet, which makes sense.
00:49:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah, and it is spelled R-A-P, not W-R-A-P.
00:49:39
Natalie Richards
Oh. Got it. Okay.
00:49:43
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:49:44
Natalie Richards
Okay. Now we know.
00:49:44
Felicia Devine
that's why That's what AI Google told me.
00:49:45
Natalie Richards
Okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. i i can I can understand that now.
00:49:48
Felicia Devine
Okay. um What are some other terms I am so bad at?
00:49:50
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:49:53
Natalie Richards
ah
00:49:54
Felicia Devine
I'm so bad at them. um
00:49:55
Natalie Richards
ah
00:49:56
Felicia Devine
I'm trying to think.
00:49:57
Natalie Richards
I can't think of any right now.
00:49:57
Felicia Devine
i'll have to I'll have to come up with some more, but I'm horrific at them.
00:49:58
Natalie Richards
there are There are so many. Okay.
00:50:02
Felicia Devine
And I'll forever say them wrong.
00:50:03
Natalie Richards
That's okay.
00:50:04
Felicia Devine
Like I still say play it by ear.
00:50:05
Natalie Richards
So who does 90% of the population.
00:50:07
Felicia Devine
I know. Why are they so hard to say?
00:50:09
Natalie Richards
Because nobody knows what these things actually are from.
00:50:11
Felicia Devine
Right. Because they're vintage.
00:50:14
Natalie Richards
Exactly. It's like bone apple teeth.
00:50:22
Felicia Devine
I was like, what's that one? Oh, Bon Appetit is bone apple teeth.
00:50:26
Natalie Richards
People say bone apple teeth because they don't know what they're actually saying.
00:50:26
Felicia Devine
That's funny.
00:50:30
Felicia Devine
Bon Appetit is, is that French? Is that French? I think it's French.
00:50:34
Natalie Richards
It's French, yeah.
00:50:35
Felicia Devine
Okay. um That's a funny one. What are some other good ones? I love, I love sayings because i inherited it from my dad.
00:50:41
Natalie Richards
There are so many.
00:50:44
Felicia Devine
My dad's really bad at sayings.
00:50:46
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's funny.
00:50:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So of course you learned the improper way to say things from him.
00:50:51
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yeah. I inherited trauma.
00:50:53
Natalie Richards
Of course. Yes.
00:50:55
Felicia Devine
Release the meridian.
00:50:55
Natalie Richards
Drama. Release it.
00:50:58
Felicia Devine
Okay. So now, now it's a joke in my family. My parents will be like, release the trauma.
00:51:02
Natalie Richards
Are they really?
00:51:05
Felicia Devine
My dad just swiping his head all day long. I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's not how it works, but I love the effort.
00:51:10
Natalie Richards
ah me
00:51:11
Felicia Devine
You know, my dad, my dad ah loves a life hack. He loves a biohack.
00:51:17
Natalie Richards
That is a biohack.
00:51:18
Felicia Devine
My dad, like he was progressive. He was sleeping with like magnets in his pillow 25 years ago.
00:51:24
Natalie Richards
See, you can do that with a mat you can do that with a magnet too.
00:51:27
Felicia Devine
Okay. Don't tell my dad that.
00:51:29
Natalie Richards
ah huh
00:51:29
Felicia Devine
My dad will take that up.
00:51:30
Natalie Richards
it It works the same way though because we our hands have magnetic energy in them.
00:51:34
Felicia Devine
Right. Right.
00:51:35
Natalie Richards
Recall back to Dee Dee Palmer who was a magnetic healer.
00:51:38
Felicia Devine
Oh yeah. He was a healer. Yeah.
00:51:41
Natalie Richards
I'm just like, wow, this whole thing is really just coming
00:51:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. So people will be like, oh my God, Felicia, your hands are so sweaty. I'm like, that's a good thing because my hands are so hot.
00:51:47
Natalie Richards
Yes. Same. So warm.
00:51:51
Felicia Devine
They are vibrating at like the highest frequency.
00:51:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:51:53
Felicia Devine
I have so much energy going through my hands and I'm like, it means I'm a healer.
00:51:53
Natalie Richards
I have been told, ah literally, I have been told so many times that ah my hands are like a hot, a heating pad. And I'm like, oh, okay.
00:52:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. No, literally I'll put my hands on somebody's back and they're like, oh, your hands are warm.
00:52:05
Natalie Richards
They are.
00:52:07
Felicia Devine
I'm like, you're welcome. Yeah.
00:52:09
Natalie Richards
We've got Flow.
00:52:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:52:11
Felicia Devine
Oh, you know, another spooky thing that's very on par with like Halloween being a red woman.
00:52:11
Natalie Richards
flow
00:52:17
Natalie Richards
Oh, yes. I love talking about that.
00:52:18
Felicia Devine
I'm a red woman.
00:52:20
Natalie Richards
I am too.
00:52:21
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:52:22
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:52:22
Felicia Devine
So for those of you that don't know what that means, your normal, like, um, I guess menstrual cycle, you should ovulate on the full moon.
00:52:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:52:37
Natalie Richards
You should ah ovulate on the full moon.
00:52:38
Felicia Devine
You should ovulate on the full moon, bleed on the new moon.
00:52:39
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes.
00:52:43
Felicia Devine
Okay. That historically, yeah, there was no electricity.
00:52:44
Natalie Richards
This is back when the whole, yeah, when everybody was synced together because there was nothing, yeah, because we were looking at the moon.
00:52:49
Felicia Devine
So on the break hi on the brightest nights, you would conceive because you were ovulating on the brightest nights and you were more awake and all of those things.
00:52:53
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:52:56
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:52:57
Felicia Devine
Okay. A red woman is the opposite. You bleed on the full moon.
00:53:01
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:53:03
Felicia Devine
And that is spooky, spooky, spooky because those people are inherently more like mystical, magical.
00:53:05
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:53:10
Felicia Devine
She was.
00:53:11
Natalie Richards
Healers. It's like typically the healers that are – like it would be back in the day when we were living in tribes, it would be like the woman, the woman the medicine woman who was taking care of all the other women going through there.
00:53:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:53:16
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yes. The medicine woman.
00:53:22
Felicia Devine
Yep. Yep.
00:53:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:53:24
Felicia Devine
You would be opposite.
00:53:24
Natalie Richards
You can't have everybody bleeding at the same time.
00:53:27
Felicia Devine
No. No. So, mm-hmm.
00:53:28
Natalie Richards
So there's like a smaller subset of the population that would be red women.
00:53:31
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. And I'm a red woman.
00:53:34
Natalie Richards
Yes. It's typically healers because you tap into like that that lunar energy.
00:53:34
Felicia Devine
Proud. Yeah. Yeah. So that energy source. so Yeah.
00:53:40
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:53:41
Felicia Devine
I love the moon.
00:53:42
Natalie Richards
Now, what's really interesting too, when you think about a 40-week or whatever, it ends up being the 40-week gestation period of being pregnant.
00:53:52
Felicia Devine
ka Okay. Okay.
00:53:55
Natalie Richards
When you think about it, you would be most people would be conceiving on full moon.
00:54:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:54:03
Natalie Richards
and then also, if you follow the track, you'd also be more likely to then have a baby on the full moon.
00:54:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Deliver.
00:54:09
Natalie Richards
And that's typically what happens.
00:54:11
Felicia Devine
Why more women have full moon babies.
00:54:13
Natalie Richards
If it's a full moon, there's a lot of people who end up having babies.
00:54:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Also babies are parasites and they breed on that.
00:54:20
Natalie Richards
ah On the full moon.
00:54:23
Felicia Devine
Wait, wait, wait, wait. What did I have to say about the full moon? Oh, I was just about to tell you something very fascinating.
00:54:30
Natalie Richards
Oh, man.
00:54:32
Felicia Devine
Wait, what were you talking about?
00:54:33
Natalie Richards
We were talking about gestational periods and...
00:54:35
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah. Wait, this isn't fascinating. This is a ah serious question.
00:54:39
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:54:40
Felicia Devine
Why does everyone say... that people deliver, like, they're like, oh, nine months pregnant, ready to pop. Aren't we pregnant for 10 months?
00:54:47
Natalie Richards
It's... Yes.
00:54:49
Felicia Devine
40 weeks divided by, or yeah, 40 weeks divided by four is 10.
00:54:50
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh.
00:54:54
Felicia Devine
ten
00:54:55
Natalie Richards
It's 10. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
00:54:56
Felicia Devine
We're pregnant for 10 months. I just, I've never understood why people think we're pregnant for nine months.
00:55:01
Natalie Richards
I have no... I think because by the time people find out they're pregnant, it's nine more months, but but it 10 Yes.
00:55:04
Felicia Devine
They have nine more months. It just confuses the daylights out me.
00:55:09
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:55:11
Felicia Devine
It's a, you're pregnant for 10 months, 10 months of pregnancy.
00:55:12
Natalie Richards
ah
00:55:14
Natalie Richards
yes
00:55:15
Felicia Devine
Well, I was pregnant for nine, but that's semantics, but we should be pregnant for 10 months.
00:55:17
Natalie Richards
Right. Same.
00:55:20
Felicia Devine
That's crazy. And everyone says nine.
00:55:21
Natalie Richards
h And 10 plus. 10 months plus.
00:55:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. 42 is actually still normal.
00:55:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:55:30
Felicia Devine
Anyway, yeah, I've never understood why people call it nine months.
00:55:31
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:55:33
Felicia Devine
Like, I don't even know the context I'm trying to say it in, but people always assume nine months pregnant.
00:55:34
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:55:38
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, no, it's 10.
00:55:39
Natalie Richards
No. Yep.
00:55:40
Felicia Devine
it's
00:55:40
Natalie Richards
When you're fully pregnant,
00:55:41
Felicia Devine
People are pregnant
Motherhood Struggles and Seeking Support
00:55:41
Felicia Devine
for 10 months. You're 10 months pregnant. Why don't we say that?
00:55:42
Natalie Richards
you're 10 months pregnant.
00:55:46
Natalie Richards
So by the time you're nine months, you're only 36 weeks.
00:55:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So, like, this is so confusing.
00:55:52
Natalie Richards
And that probably is why people are like, okay, I'm done.
00:55:55
Felicia Devine
I'm full term. I'm like, your baby's still be cooking.
00:55:57
Natalie Richards
you're like, no way.
00:55:59
Felicia Devine
You're soft boiled.
00:56:00
Natalie Richards
oh
00:56:00
Felicia Devine
Um, anyway, that was, do you any more spooky things?
00:56:06
Felicia Devine
Cause that's a lot of spook.
00:56:06
Natalie Richards
I don't think so.
00:56:07
Natalie Richards
Yeah. we We covered a lot of spooky things.
00:56:09
Felicia Devine
We did.
00:56:10
Natalie Richards
Oh no. Yeah. The only other thing was like early morning wake ups. I think we covered that kind of
00:56:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah.
00:56:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, Jean waking up at 6.30.
00:56:16
Felicia Devine
Jean waking up at six 30. I don't love that.
00:56:18
Natalie Richards
It's not fun.
00:56:20
Felicia Devine
Not fun.
00:56:21
Natalie Richards
Not fun.
00:56:22
Felicia Devine
All right.
00:56:22
Natalie Richards
But other than that, we're just thriving. I mean, I think motherhood in general, i had and one of my friends texted me.
00:56:27
Felicia Devine
Honestly, I'm sure there's a lot more.
00:56:30
Natalie Richards
She goes, is this really this hard for everybody or am I just like not doing something right?
00:56:35
Felicia Devine
Oh, it's that hard.
00:56:35
Natalie Richards
And I'm like, it's just, you i I was like, honestly, I think everyone is within one slight moment. problem throwing them over the edge at all times.
00:56:48
Natalie Richards
And I don't think anyone is is exempt from that.
00:56:52
Felicia Devine
No.
00:56:52
Natalie Richards
And i think we've completely lost our village. We've completely lost the ability to actually like do this.
00:56:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:01
Natalie Richards
And we have to, that's why there's gimmicks.
00:57:01
Felicia Devine
and hey
00:57:03
Natalie Richards
And that's why there's things out there to help you sleep train and do all this stuff because something has to give.
00:57:08
Felicia Devine
and
00:57:09
Natalie Richards
Like you have to you have to make, you have to make sacrifices in some way.
00:57:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:16
Natalie Richards
And everyone's pretty much in the same boat. And I don't think people talk about one minute away from something bad happening.
00:57:18
Felicia Devine
They're one minute away from snapping. Yeah.
00:57:23
Felicia Devine
Everyone's over-simulated.
00:57:25
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:57:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:26
Natalie Richards
So it's a serious problem. I think we have to be good at asking for help, but that's the hardest part is actually admitting that we need it.
00:57:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:57:36
Natalie Richards
That's so hard.
00:57:38
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:57:39
Natalie Richards
So I just want everybody to know you are not alone.
00:57:39
Felicia Devine
It is.
00:57:42
Natalie Richards
That's why we're talking about this stuff.
00:57:44
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:57:45
Natalie Richards
It is really, really hard.
00:57:47
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:57:47
Natalie Richards
Really, really hard.
00:57:49
Felicia Devine
You know how, like, margarine is one molecule away from being plastic?
00:57:53
Natalie Richards
yeah That
00:57:55
Felicia Devine
Motherhood is one molecule away from being completely in prison.
00:57:59
Natalie Richards
in jail.
00:58:03
Natalie Richards
One molecule. li
00:58:05
Felicia Devine
One molecule away from being locked up for life.
00:58:08
Natalie Richards
So everybody watch out.
00:58:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:58:09
Felicia Devine
So you're not alone.
00:58:09
Natalie Richards
rap sheet is going to, is going to, yeah.
00:58:13
Felicia Devine
We're about to have a bad rap.
00:58:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah. ah rap sheet is going to
00:58:19
Felicia Devine
The rap sheet is here.
00:58:19
Natalie Richards
was gonna yeah
00:58:20
Felicia Devine
Okay. Well, that's all for episode 15. Thanks for joining us this week.
00:58:24
Natalie Richards
Bye.
00:58:25
Felicia Devine
Bye.