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S2.Ep11 - A Very +POSITIVE+ Episode
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Episode 11 is a full-blown life update with all the chaos, comedy, and plot twists you’d expect from us. We recap how weird it was to podcast in person, the brutal transition back into real life, chaotic travel days, nervous-system dysregulation, windy weather madness, St. Patrick’s Day plans, reptile show drama, and toddler interruptions galore. But the real headline of this episode is the big surprise: Felicia found out she’s pregnant while Natalie was still in town. We get into the full story of the positive test, Dan’s reaction, Natalie’s fairy-godmother pregnancy energy, and why this pregnancy already feels so different. We also talk potty training, public bathroom struggles, tiny toddler accidents, and why sharing pregnancy news early felt right this time around. It’s funny, heartfelt, completely unfiltered, and yes — the twin theories are already in full force.
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Transcript
Intro
Virtual vs. In-Person Podcasting
00:00:51
Felicia Devine
Hello, and welcome back to episode 11.
00:00:53
Natalie Richards
Hello, Felice.
00:00:55
Felicia Devine
Natalie.
00:00:56
Natalie Richards
how weird it is to see you like through a computer again.
00:00:59
Felicia Devine
from From a distance, I know.
00:01:00
Natalie Richards
it it was actually weirder to podcast with you looking straight at your face.
00:01:05
Felicia Devine
i agree. i agree. i was like, what do we talk about?
00:01:09
Natalie Richards
Like the brain the brain cells like didn't.
00:01:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:01:12
Natalie Richards
It was very weird.
00:01:14
Felicia Devine
It was hard, but listening to it, it didn't sound any different.
00:01:18
Natalie Richards
No, it didn't.
00:01:18
Felicia Devine
But in person, it felt different.
00:01:19
Natalie Richards
I was... It felt very different. Like I didn't know what to do with myself.
00:01:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I know.
00:01:24
Natalie Richards
I didn't know where to look.
00:01:24
Felicia Devine
It's like FaceTiming someone and then being in person with them and you're like, uh...
00:01:29
Natalie Richards
It was so weird. It's such a different, like a different part of your brain.
00:01:32
Felicia Devine
I didn't watch it back though. Was it awkward looking?
00:01:34
Natalie Richards
i didn't watch it. I didn't watch it at all.
00:01:35
Felicia Devine
I just listened. I think I listened to the whole thing.
Guest Appearance: Gene's Humorous Interactions
00:01:39
Natalie Richards
Hello, Jean. You coming to say hello before we start?
00:01:39
Felicia Devine
It was so interesting.
00:01:42
Natalie Richards
Okay. You want to say, speak into the microphone right here.
00:01:44
Felicia Devine
Hi, Jean.
00:01:47
Natalie Richards
Speak into the microphone. Felicia's saying hello. So you would say, hello, Felicia.
00:01:51
Felicia Devine
Gene is a constant guest. He's the only guest we ever have on.
00:01:55
Natalie Richards
He's the only guest besides the dogs.
00:01:56
Felicia Devine
Yes. Giuseppe's never a guest because he's always asleep during this time.
00:01:58
Natalie Richards
to
00:02:01
Natalie Richards
What do you want to do, honey? Oh, you want the headphones. He has to be the real podcaster.
00:02:05
Felicia Devine
Oh, he has to participate. Yes. I have to talk to Gene. Gene.
00:02:10
Felicia Devine
Hello. Happy Saturday. Did you miss your mommy last week?
00:02:11
Natalie Richards
Did you miss mommy?
00:02:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:02:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Did you have a lot of fun with daddy though?
00:02:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:02:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I knew it.
00:02:21
Natalie Richards
Did you like the cars that mommy brought back for you?
00:02:21
Felicia Devine
I knew it. I was going to say, oh, cars.
00:02:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:02:27
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:02:28
Natalie Richards
Oh, there they
00:02:30
Felicia Devine
What about the monster trucks?
00:02:33
Natalie Richards
Did you have fun at the monster truck show with dad? the i got bone shaker.
00:02:36
Felicia Devine
Did you?
00:02:38
Natalie Richards
I got bone shaker.
00:02:39
Felicia Devine
Oh, but did you get Bone Shaker as like a car to take home?
00:02:44
Natalie Richards
Daddy got you a car there? That was really nice of him.
00:02:47
Felicia Devine
Daddies are the best.
00:02:49
Natalie Richards
Okay. You going bye-bye?
00:02:50
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:02:53
Natalie Richards
How about you go wrestle with dad, okay? Can you go wrestle for a little bit? Don't touch. Don't touch the colors. You're going to...
00:03:03
Felicia Devine
He's about to mute Natalie.
00:03:05
Natalie Richards
Jean. Uh-huh, here it goes.
00:03:09
Felicia Devine
Muted.
00:03:10
Natalie Richards
oh no. Okay, now we're back. Okay, Jean, we're going to we're gonna have to say, hey, dad will go give you a piece of candy. I promise.
00:03:19
Felicia Devine
promise.
00:03:19
Natalie Richards
I promise he will.
00:03:24
Natalie Richards
Yay.
00:03:27
Natalie Richards
Oh boy. All right. So yeah, our in-person podcast was
Natalie's Travel Tales
00:03:31
Felicia Devine
Interesting. We'll get better at it every time we do it.
00:03:31
Natalie Richards
was just interesting.
00:03:36
Natalie Richards
Are we gonna do that again?
00:03:38
Felicia Devine
A quarterly podcast meetup.
00:03:43
Natalie Richards
just seems like it's a very hard thing to achieve when we're in person together.
00:03:46
Felicia Devine
It is. Because we talk nonstop when we're together and then we're like, oh, that would have been really good to record.
00:03:51
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:03:53
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:03:55
Felicia Devine
so then when we actually go to podcasts, we're like, oh, this feels forced.
00:03:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah, kind of.
00:04:01
Felicia Devine
but Natalie, I would love to hear.
00:04:01
Natalie Richards
There's always things to say.
00:04:03
Felicia Devine
Cause honestly, we went back to like normal scheduled programmer where I don't talk to Natalie during the week. So Natalie, how was your travel day?
00:04:09
Natalie Richards
Right. And we're like in our own zones. The travel day was actually really easy.
00:04:15
Felicia Devine
Oh, good.
00:04:16
Natalie Richards
it was really easy. I almost got in an accident on the way to the airport, I will say.
00:04:17
Felicia Devine
How was your trip? I was going to ask you, how was your trip from my house to the airport? Cause it was still dark out.
00:04:23
Natalie Richards
was horrible. It was mostly dark.
00:04:24
Felicia Devine
Why? Yeah.
00:04:25
Natalie Richards
It's just people are insane. Like people driving are really, really insane.
00:04:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. People are commuting into Philly.
00:04:30
Natalie Richards
So it was one of those where like people are just way too close to each other in traffic and they're not paying attention and they're weaving and dodging.
00:04:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:04:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And weaving and dodging. Yeah.
00:04:37
Natalie Richards
And then like one person doesn't stop soon enough. And then you're almost in like a five car pile up.
00:04:40
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Is that what happened?
00:04:43
Natalie Richards
But yeah, basically, I think two people hit each other and I just kind of like skirted.
00:04:45
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:04:48
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh.
00:04:49
Natalie Richards
It was like really close, but I was paying attention.
00:04:51
Felicia Devine
Oh. Yes, you were.
00:04:54
Natalie Richards
So I saw it coming, but there's still I was worried about the person behind me because I'm I was stopping in time.
00:04:56
Felicia Devine
of
00:04:59
Felicia Devine
yeah rear-ending you.
00:05:03
Natalie Richards
But like that person, I'm like, if you're not paying attention, you're screwed.
00:05:05
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:05:06
Felicia Devine
And they probably aren't.
00:05:06
Natalie Richards
So and they probably
Weather and Travel Experiences
00:05:08
Natalie Richards
aren't.
00:05:08
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God, it's snowing.
00:05:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah. oh
00:05:11
Natalie Richards
so
00:05:12
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:05:12
Natalie Richards
hello
00:05:12
Felicia Devine
It's so windy.
00:05:14
Natalie Richards
it's supposed to snow for the next like four days here, which is wild.
00:05:16
Felicia Devine
Oh, that's horrifying.
00:05:18
Natalie Richards
Maybe I don't know. Okay.
00:05:20
Felicia Devine
We've had like crazy wind storms.
00:05:23
Felicia Devine
No, like no clouds. I don't think a cloud can hang on.
00:05:23
Natalie Richards
Very, it's been so bad.
00:05:26
Natalie Richards
Windy, windy.
00:05:27
Felicia Devine
I mean, it's so windy.
00:05:28
Natalie Richards
I know that's so true.
00:05:30
Natalie Richards
It's so true.
00:05:31
Felicia Devine
But I guess if you're getting snow now, we probably are getting snow. Cause we usually get like the Iowa, Illinois wind storm or like storms.
00:05:35
Natalie Richards
You'll probably get something. Mm-hmm.
00:05:39
Felicia Devine
They move over to us usually.
00:05:41
Natalie Richards
I assume. And March is like, we're going to get snow.
00:05:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:05:43
Natalie Richards
So thankfully my flight went off without a hitch.
00:05:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:05:47
Natalie Richards
It was actually early into O'Hare, which is like unheard of.
00:05:47
Felicia Devine
Okay. Oh, were you good on timing?
00:05:52
Natalie Richards
I was great on timing and I actually got off the plane, made it to my car.
00:05:53
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:05:58
Natalie Richards
And I was like, oh, I have like an extra hour at least. So I went and got lunch at Whole Foods and I went grocery shopping and i did all this lovely stuff.
00:06:02
Felicia Devine
Did you really?
00:06:05
Felicia Devine
good. Yeah, so you actually didn't have to like sprint to
00:06:07
Natalie Richards
And so I was like prepared.
Post-Travel Work-Life Balance
00:06:09
Felicia Devine
work and feel like you were like stressed.
00:06:09
Natalie Richards
no I was like prepared for my week.
00:06:11
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:06:12
Natalie Richards
And then once I got to work, I was like, oh, I'm tired. But I was, i was okay.
00:06:17
Felicia Devine
You had a full afternoon.
00:06:18
Natalie Richards
had a full afternoon. It's okay.
00:06:20
Felicia Devine
And then you to drive 45 minutes home.
00:06:21
Natalie Richards
I will never do that again because I think what happened is that set me up for not so great of a week.
00:06:23
Felicia Devine
Now.
00:06:29
Felicia Devine
Exhaustion.
00:06:30
Natalie Richards
because
00:06:31
Felicia Devine
I mean, what did you, like, what would you have done if you had to go straight to work and you didn't even get to grocery shop?
00:06:36
Natalie Richards
I don't know, because then I would have been behind.
00:06:37
Felicia Devine
You would have been even more frazzled.
00:06:39
Natalie Richards
far behind And then I had things like every day this week.
00:06:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:43
Natalie Richards
Like I was really busy this week.
00:06:44
Felicia Devine
Did you?
00:06:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:45
Natalie Richards
So it just was, it was an odd transition back into life.
00:06:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:51
Natalie Richards
I felt very chaotic. I think that happens when it's really windy like that.
00:06:52
Felicia Devine
okay
00:06:55
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:06:55
Natalie Richards
My nervous, like my aura ring was like, what's wrong with you? Like something's something's wrong.
00:06:59
Felicia Devine
I had major symptoms.
00:07:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
St. Patrick's Day Celebrations
00:07:01
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:07:02
Natalie Richards
My my like resting heart rate was so high.
00:07:04
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:07:06
Felicia Devine
h
00:07:06
Natalie Richards
My HRV was so low for like four days straight.
00:07:10
Natalie Richards
And then I finally then got adjusted again with Bianca on Friday.
00:07:10
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:07:15
Natalie Richards
And then I was finally like, oh my God, I can finally relax.
00:07:15
Felicia Devine
Did you? okay good.
00:07:19
Felicia Devine
breathe again. Yeah.
00:07:20
Natalie Richards
It was crazy. i was like, something feels very weird.
00:07:22
Felicia Devine
I know it did feel really chaotic.
00:07:26
Natalie Richards
So now I'm feeling okay. We're transitioning into the next week.
00:07:28
Felicia Devine
Good.
00:07:32
Natalie Richards
Hopefully going to the St. Patrick's Day parade today.
00:07:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah. What do, what is the parade?
00:07:35
Natalie Richards
be really fun.
00:07:37
Felicia Devine
Like, what do they do?
00:07:38
Natalie Richards
It's just like they throw candy out and they're like dressed and there's a bunch of people that are are dressed in red and orange or no green and orange. What am I saying? Dressed like leprechauns.
00:07:50
Felicia Devine
Leprechauns.
00:07:51
Natalie Richards
I am not a stitch Irish. Not even a dribble.
00:07:55
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:07:56
Natalie Richards
I love St. Patrick's Day. Remember in the Quad Cities how it was like such a thing?
00:07:58
Felicia Devine
Do you?
00:08:01
Natalie Richards
And I had my like green shamrock Flava Flav like the necklace.
00:08:02
Felicia Devine
it was such a thing in the Quad Cities. Yes. Yes. Wait, do you still have it? Are you going to bring it today?
00:08:08
Natalie Richards
Oh, I still have it. I'll take a picture of it.
00:08:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:11
Natalie Richards
so I just, I love St. Patrick's Day. I love dressing up.
00:08:15
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:08:16
Natalie Richards
I love the parade.
00:08:18
Felicia Devine
I only liked it in the Quad Cities.
00:08:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah, because it was a big celebration there.
00:08:21
Felicia Devine
It was a huge celebration.
00:08:22
Natalie Richards
huge.
00:08:22
Felicia Devine
And yeah was it?
00:08:23
Natalie Richards
And when I was in Milwaukee, huge celebration, huge.
00:08:26
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:08:26
Natalie Richards
And Chicago's huge. Like it's just a, I,
00:08:28
Felicia Devine
I honestly forgot about St. Patty's Day until you literally showed up in green and I was like, oh cute shirt. You're like, there's a parade today. And I guess St. Patty's Day is this week. So it will have happened by the time this airs.
00:08:39
Natalie Richards
Yes, it is. Yeah. By the time it's there.
00:08:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah, but
Podcast Interruptions by Kids
00:08:42
Felicia Devine
that's okay. I'm not missing much.
00:08:43
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:08:44
Felicia Devine
i don't I'm not a girl that loves an Irish beer. I'm not a girl that loves Irish food.
00:08:51
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:08:52
Felicia Devine
And I'm not a girl that is a fan, particularly of Irish music.
00:08:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:08:56
Natalie Richards
Right. And that's fine. Gene. Gene keeps turning my microphone off, you little stinker. Go somewhere else.
00:09:05
Felicia Devine
It's off.
00:09:06
Natalie Richards
Go somewhere else. okay oh Turning it off so I can say the things I want to to him.
00:09:11
Felicia Devine
I know, right?
00:09:13
Natalie Richards
Honey, no, we're done. We're done. We're done. I mean it. Go somewhere else. No. Jean, I'm sorry, but you're going to have to have a time out for a little bit. I'm just to turn it on. Turn it on. Thank you.
00:09:30
Natalie Richards
Okay. Go find dad. I bet he'll take you to the store.
00:09:35
Felicia Devine
Go to PetSmart.
00:09:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah. He'll take you to the... Okay. He's going to go rest. Jean, my God. i said This little home situation is turning into a problem.
00:09:41
Felicia Devine
He is a little spitfire today. You're like, maybe we should podcast at the office again. Okay.
00:09:50
Natalie Richards
Oh, the thought of that, though.
00:09:51
Felicia Devine
So you started your week chaotic, but it ended off being like pretty okay.
00:09:54
Natalie Richards
Yes. Now I feel like, yeah, I feel like things are okay now.
00:09:56
Felicia Devine
Okay. What's your
Family Plans: Reptile Show
00:09:57
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:09:57
Felicia Devine
weekend looking like?
00:09:58
Felicia Devine
Are you guys like overly committed or is it just a few things?
00:10:01
Natalie Richards
It's pretty much just the parade today. And then we've got... A creature show, like a reptile show tomorrow in Chicago.
00:10:09
Natalie Richards
Like the biggest reptile show in the country is what my brother said.
00:10:13
Felicia Devine
Oh no, you're coming home with a chameleon.
00:10:14
Natalie Richards
And my brother's like ready to like buy something. My brother's like going to buy a boa some of some sort.
00:10:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:22
Natalie Richards
An Amazonian rainbow boa or something.
00:10:25
Felicia Devine
What are you going to buy?
00:10:26
Natalie Richards
Nothing.
00:10:26
Felicia Devine
Gene, you're going to get him his chameleon.
00:10:27
Natalie Richards
not Oh, no no no, no, no, no. No, he hasn't fulfilled his end of the deal.
00:10:29
Felicia Devine
No. Oh, is this the potty training chameleon?
00:10:32
Natalie Richards
The potty training deal.
00:10:34
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:10:34
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:10:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Gene, I don't think that you're ready for that.
00:10:36
Natalie Richards
So, nope, he's not.
00:10:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So that can be a lesson learned.
00:10:39
Natalie Richards
He's not.
00:10:40
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:10:41
Natalie Richards
That's right. Otherwise, he would have come home with a chameleon today if he followed the plan.
00:10:43
Felicia Devine
hu Yeah, yeah.
Parenting Challenges: Potty Training
00:10:49
Natalie Richards
So that's the that's the weekend.
00:10:49
Felicia Devine
oh poor poor Seppy had an accident yesterday.
00:10:52
Natalie Richards
he did... yes.
00:10:53
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:10:54
Natalie Richards
oh what was it
00:10:55
Felicia Devine
I was in a meeting. So Dan was with Seppy and the landscaping company was here going over our plans for the backyard. So Dan and Sepp were outside with the landscaper Seppi kept trying to go inside.
00:11:10
Felicia Devine
And Dan's like, oh, maybe he's cold. Like he kept trying to like open the door.
00:11:15
Felicia Devine
And Dan's like, oh, like, I don't know. And then all of a sudden he walks up to Danny who goes, Seppi stinky. Sorry.
00:11:15
Natalie Richards
Oh no.
00:11:21
Natalie Richards
Oh no.
00:11:22
Felicia Devine
Sorry, Seppi stinky. And Dan's like, oh, you have to go potty.
00:11:24
Natalie Richards
Oh poor baby.
00:11:26
Felicia Devine
He's like stinky. And he had already gone potty in his pants.
00:11:28
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:11:31
Felicia Devine
And dan Dan felt so bad.
00:11:31
Natalie Richards
That makes sense.
00:11:33
Felicia Devine
He was like, it was my fault, Seppy, because Seppy kept being like, sorry, sorry.
00:11:35
Natalie Richards
Oh. Oh.
00:11:41
Natalie Richards
Sweet boy.
00:11:42
Felicia Devine
But the poor kid.
00:11:43
Natalie Richards
He was trying. He did.
00:11:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:44
Natalie Richards
He did his end of the deal. And that's great.
00:11:46
Felicia Devine
He did his end of the deal. And Dan was like, honestly, I'm not surprised that he wasn't like poo-poo because like there was a stranger around. So I think he was like trying to get inside to go potty and didn't want to tell Dan exactly why.
00:11:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:11:56
Natalie Richards
I see. He was trying to be polite.
00:11:59
Felicia Devine
yeah So it was just so sad because he was like seppy stinky.
00:12:02
Natalie Richards
Oh, poor baby. so
00:12:04
Felicia Devine
So yeah, that was a sad little accident.
00:12:05
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:12:07
Felicia Devine
But I know.
00:12:08
Natalie Richards
yeah it's okay. it happens i mean he's literally not even two he's doing great
00:12:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I know.
00:12:15
Felicia Devine
i I had a mom at the office the other day because I was like, oh, so do you have to go potty? And the mom goes, how old is he? And I didn't know what she was referencing. And I was like, I think he's like, I think he just turned 22 months.
00:12:22
Natalie Richards
right
00:12:24
Felicia Devine
And she's like, what? And I was like, yeah. And she's like, and he's potty trained? And I was like, oh, yeah. yeah I was like, yeah. And she's like, OK. And her kid's like, you know, I don't even know.
00:12:35
Felicia Devine
I don't even know what age her kid is. But it was just funny because I was like, I don't know what you're referencing here.
00:12:40
Natalie Richards
It's definitely not the norm anymore. That's for sure. It's great.
00:12:42
Felicia Devine
No. Yeah. And like, I don't think I wouldn't have forced it. Like I wouldn't have made him potty train, but he was showing signs that he wanted to.
00:12:47
Natalie Richards
Great. He was ready.
00:12:50
Felicia Devine
And it's been a lovely journey. I don't regret any of it.
00:12:53
Natalie Richards
You go for it. Oh God. No, no, no, no.
00:12:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I don't know. Sometimes I feel like people do like the three days naked, but I think that's the older kids that never would have worked for Giuseppe.
00:13:00
Natalie Richards
I know it is. That's for older kids. If you're, At 18 months, you can just do it. It doesn't have to be. It's just like they just learn how to do it.
00:13:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he didn't.
00:13:11
Natalie Richards
And I wish I would have. Jean was ready at that time too.
00:13:12
Felicia Devine
Yeah. He didn't do the three days naked, but it did. I mean, he would still wear diapers out in public for a long time.
00:13:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:13:18
Felicia Devine
Like I think two or three months he still was in diapers in public.
00:13:20
Natalie Richards
Which is fine.
00:13:21
Felicia Devine
But yeah. And it wasn't necessarily because I was like, oh, he's going to pee and poop all over the place. It was just so that I didn't have to worry about taking him to a potty in public. That was a me thing.
00:13:31
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:13:33
Felicia Devine
Because he's he still doesn't even fit on like a toddler seat.
00:13:33
Natalie Richards
Totally.
00:13:36
Felicia Devine
Like we have one of those like foldable toddler seats that you put on the seat like in public.
00:13:37
Natalie Richards
Totally
00:13:41
Natalie Richards
on top. h
00:13:43
Felicia Devine
He's still too tiny for that.
00:13:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:13:46
Felicia Devine
So I'm like holding him and his pants are on his ankles so he can't open his legs.
00:13:46
Natalie Richards
He's a teeny little, oh, it's, I know that's what's so hard.
00:13:49
Felicia Devine
So then he's one time he like peed all over his pants and his underwear and his shoes and socks because I couldn't even get him like correctly positioned on the toilet. So then I was like, that's even more annoying.
00:13:59
Natalie Richards
Right. It's hard.
00:14:01
Natalie Richards
I know my mom said, yeah, which is that's I have one of those too.
00:14:01
Felicia Devine
But now I just bring that collapsible one and it's his size.
00:14:06
Felicia Devine
It's perfect.
00:14:07
Natalie Richards
think Gene is too big for that now. Like the one I have for my car and I'm worried about that.
00:14:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:11
Natalie Richards
like he's so tall.
00:14:12
Felicia Devine
Oh, he is so tall.
00:14:14
Natalie Richards
I don't knowt know how long.
00:14:14
Felicia Devine
He would be literally in like squatty potty form.
00:14:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah, but that's just for pooping, I guess, which is fine because he can pee on the side of the road if he had to.
00:14:20
Felicia Devine
yeah.
00:14:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:14:24
Natalie Richards
don't care.
00:14:25
Felicia Devine
it might still work for him.
00:14:26
Natalie Richards
and think it might work.
00:14:27
Felicia Devine
It's honestly, I saw a lady post that she was using it in her car cause she was pregnant and she was like, I had to pee and I had nowhere else to go. And I just sat on this potty in the seat.
00:14:35
Natalie Richards
If, yeah. If you have to, you have to.
00:14:39
Felicia Devine
You could do it like this, Natalie. If you use it in the car, you could put it on the seat that doesn't have the the car seat.
00:14:44
Natalie Richards
That's true.
00:14:45
Felicia Devine
And he could sit on it and have his legs towards the ground and not like his feet on the actual ground, you know?
00:14:48
Natalie Richards
That's very true. And then his
Growth and Parenting Insights
00:14:51
Natalie Richards
legs don't have to be like squooshed up.
00:14:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:14:54
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that's very true.
00:14:54
Felicia Devine
He reminds me of like Elf, the movie Elf.
00:14:55
Natalie Richards
Or in the trunk. he He is litter and everything is miniature sized.
00:14:59
Felicia Devine
Like he's, yeah, he's too big for things for his age.
00:15:02
Natalie Richards
Yeah, he has like this little bike from last year and he looked at and he goes that's too tiny for me.
00:15:02
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:15:08
Felicia Devine
That's too tiny.
00:15:11
Natalie Richards
I know, Jean, it's always been too tiny for you.
00:15:13
Felicia Devine
that That's a too tiny bike.
00:15:15
Natalie Richards
When you were a year old, it was too tiny for you.
00:15:19
Felicia Devine
oh my gosh.
00:15:19
Natalie Richards
His proportions are just not, it just doesn't work.
00:15:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:23
Natalie Richards
It just doesn't work. and So.
00:15:24
Felicia Devine
Sep is finally getting the concept of like proportions or sizes, I guess.
00:15:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:28
Felicia Devine
So if something is really big, he'll be like big.
00:15:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:31
Felicia Devine
And then something that's small, he'll go tiny.
00:15:34
Natalie Richards
Oh, that's so cute.
00:15:35
Felicia Devine
He'll be like tiny pee pee. Like if he just barely pees or like, he's like tiny grape.
00:15:38
Natalie Richards
He was so cute the whole time.
00:15:42
Felicia Devine
like
00:15:42
Natalie Richards
oh I just love him. His like hand motions of like pointing down, it just like, I don't even know what to how to explain it.
00:15:44
Felicia Devine
I know. Oh, he loves a point. He loves a point. Yeah.
00:15:52
Natalie Richards
It's like he takes his whole hand and his pointer finger up and it's bobbling.
00:15:54
Felicia Devine
And he's whole hand and it's a flick up and down.
00:15:57
Natalie Richards
It's like a bobble head finger.
00:15:58
Felicia Devine
And he goes, and it's mostly no words. And he's just like, like you had it. yeah.
00:16:04
Natalie Richards
He looked at me when we sat down for dinner, like the second the second night.
00:16:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:16:08
Natalie Richards
It wasn't the first night. First night, he's like, what are you doing at my house?
00:16:09
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:16:11
Natalie Richards
Second
Pregnancy Announcement and Reactions
00:16:11
Natalie Richards
night, he looks at me, points at me, moves his finger, his hand up and down, points to the seat.
00:16:17
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:16:18
Natalie Richards
And he just goes, you, sit.
00:16:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sit. Sit. Yeah. He's a character.
00:16:24
Natalie Richards
He's so cute.
00:16:25
Felicia Devine
He's a lot of fun. I have i have no quarrels about spending time with him.
00:16:29
Natalie Richards
Oh, no, he's great.
00:16:30
Felicia Devine
Not at all. I'm not, I never identify with a mom that's like, oh, like Friday scaries.
00:16:31
Natalie Richards
He really is great.
00:16:35
Felicia Devine
Like now I spend the whole weekend with my kid. I'm like, that sounds great.
00:16:38
Natalie Richards
Oh, I know. That's kind of sad. I know.
00:16:40
Felicia Devine
that That sounds great to me. That sounds like my kind of paradise alone time with my family.
00:16:43
Natalie Richards
That's so cute.
00:16:46
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:16:47
Natalie Richards
I know. That's really sweet.
00:16:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So, did I tell you Shane Amanda are going to Disney?
00:16:52
Natalie Richards
You did.
00:16:53
Natalie Richards
You did. And do you know how many ads I've gotten for the private tour at Disney since we talked about it?
00:16:54
Felicia Devine
so I'm like,
00:17:00
Felicia Devine
Girl, I think the next time we do Disney, well, you're going again in November.
00:17:03
Natalie Richards
I think we do it. I know, but have a little
00:17:08
Felicia Devine
I can't go.
00:17:09
Natalie Richards
We have a little blip where you can't come come on the annual Disney trip this year.
00:17:11
Felicia Devine
i have an occasion to attend to.
00:17:17
Natalie Richards
And why is that, Felicia?
00:17:19
Felicia Devine
Oh, because I'm pregnant. So most, I mean, if you listen to our podcast, the only place we advertise our podcast is social media. So you probably already know this.
00:17:30
Natalie Richards
like
00:17:31
Felicia Devine
I mean, but who listens to our podcast? Well, I don't know, actually, because there's people in other countries that listen to our podcast.
00:17:35
Natalie Richards
No, I think there's, I think there's plenty of people that listen that are not social media people.
00:17:39
Felicia Devine
Okay. Are not aware. Okay.
00:17:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:17:42
Felicia Devine
Pop off. So yeah, big news.
00:17:43
Natalie Richards
So big news.
00:17:46
Felicia Devine
I'm pregnant. Turns out it works.
00:17:47
Natalie Richards
Let's, let's like tell the, tell the little story, tell the, tell the little story how you weren't even to your missed period yet.
00:17:49
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:17:52
Felicia Devine
To the little tail.
00:17:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:56
Natalie Richards
And you just on a whim decide to take a test while I'm there.
00:18:00
Natalie Richards
Of course.
00:18:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah. No, it was so weird, Natalie. I still don't even know if I fully explained this to you. So, okay. I'll rewind to the time when I was testing for Giuseppe. So when I was testing for Giuseppe, the all the tests that are like name brand say like, I think it's, is it six days before your missed period is like the typical window for like name brand.
00:18:20
Natalie Richards
That's like the really nice, the really like good ones, yeah.
00:18:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah, like clear blue, first response, like all those.
00:18:25
Natalie Richards
That maybe you can detect.
00:18:27
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah.
00:18:28
Natalie Richards
i don't even, yeah, maybe five or six.
00:18:29
Felicia Devine
If you don't pee for 24 hours and then you pee in a stick.
00:18:31
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:18:38
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:18:42
Felicia Devine
And I was testing, I think, six days before my missed period with Giuseppe and it was like negative every single day. and I was like, well, maybe I'm just like making this up in my head. But like I was exhausted, but I had also just run a ten k
00:18:53
Natalie Richards
You felt different already, right?
00:18:55
Felicia Devine
And yeah, I was like, my boobs felt sore, but I was like, well, maybe I'm just having a more symptomatic period.
00:18:57
Natalie Richards
With it.
00:19:02
Felicia Devine
And I was like, oh, I don't know. I'm just like not testing positive, even though these tests are like test positive before.
00:19:05
Natalie Richards
Overthinking.
00:19:08
Felicia Devine
like So it comes to the day I'm supposed to get my period and I wake up and I'm supposed to fly to see Natalie that day. So I was like, well, I didn't like wake up to a period.
00:19:20
Felicia Devine
So i'm like, maybe. so I did it. I got in the shower. And when I got out of the shower, there was the most faint whisper of a line. And I was like, oh my gosh, I think this worked.
00:19:32
Felicia Devine
But it was like so light, so faint. And it was the day of my missed period.
00:19:36
Natalie Richards
moon
00:19:38
Felicia Devine
And so that was my experience.
00:19:40
Natalie Richards
with the first
00:19:41
Felicia Devine
With the first. Okay. And he was a lovely, beautiful, healthy pregnancy, fully stuck. Like it wasn't any, I had no complications.
00:19:47
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:19:48
Felicia Devine
So then coming to this period or to this cycle, I was laying in bed.
00:19:54
Natalie Richards
This is your first time fully trying. I just want to like say first time fully trying.
00:19:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. This is the first time. Yeah.
00:19:59
Natalie Richards
However, many months, many months of preparing.
00:19:59
Felicia Devine
Fully trying and tracking.
00:20:09
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:20:10
Felicia Devine
we, cause like I was still much more like heavily nursing. We were very much not sleeping in November.
00:20:15
Natalie Richards
Great.
00:20:18
Felicia Devine
Like, so it was like, Hey, if it happens, it happens. But this was the first time we were like, actually like, these are the days we should try.
00:20:25
Felicia Devine
so it comes to Saturday morning. Yes.
00:20:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah, Saturday morning.
00:20:31
Felicia Devine
No, Sunday morning. Cause it's a, za the photo shoot Saturday. We went shopping
00:20:36
Natalie Richards
Oh, it was the day of the photo shoot.
00:20:38
Felicia Devine
Sunday.
00:20:39
Natalie Richards
Wait.
00:20:40
Felicia Devine
Cause you left Monday.
00:20:42
Natalie Richards
No, because i washed my hair Friday night and then I did my hair Saturday morning.
00:20:45
Felicia Devine
No, you didn't. No, you didn't. You, didnt you wash your hair Saturday night.
00:20:47
Natalie Richards
didn't.
00:20:50
Natalie Richards
Really?
00:20:50
Felicia Devine
Yes. You got here Friday.
00:20:53
Felicia Devine
You didn't wash your hair after we eat burgers. you ate your You wash your hair if we eat sushi.
00:20:57
Natalie Richards
shesh okay
00:20:58
Felicia Devine
Okay. So, So the only thing I can think of is i was laying in bed and I was like, oh, let me check my aura ring. Cause I love, so the weird thing was when Natalie was here, Giuseppe slept through the night three times, twice, two or three times, which is crazy.
00:21:13
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:21:16
Felicia Devine
I'm like, maybe Natalie's fending off like bad energy in this house. So that's literally what I thought. So I'm like, ooh, let me look at my sleep data. So I pull up my phone. It's early, early Saturday morning.
00:21:27
Felicia Devine
No, Sunday morning. It's early, early Sunday morning. And I pulled my phone and I'm looking at my Oura Ring. And I like my Oura Ring has like your your period prediction. And it was predicting my period to start Tuesday.
00:21:39
Felicia Devine
and I was like, well, it's Sunday and I'm supposed to get my period Tuesday. Oh, I guess I'm in that window you can test.
00:21:44
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:21:44
Felicia Devine
And I was like, I might as well try.
00:21:46
Natalie Richards
Might as well.
00:21:47
Felicia Devine
and I didn't have any inclination that it would be positive because A, I didn't test positive until the day of my missed period. And B, I didn't have any of the symptoms I had when I was pregnant with Giuseppe.
00:21:58
Felicia Devine
So i was like, I'm not, I had no like, ooh, butterflies.
00:21:59
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:22:03
Felicia Devine
Like I really just like did wash my face, like put on my lotion, was just like standing around.
00:22:03
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:22:08
Felicia Devine
And i was like, oh, it's been five minutes.
00:22:09
Natalie Richards
Just like going through the motions.
00:22:10
Felicia Devine
Like, I just really was like chill about it. Cause I was like, honestly, I'm just like trying to like gather data.
00:22:15
Felicia Devine
So it wasn't even like I was like sitting there like fingers crossed and I wasn't going to be sad if it wasn't positive because I was like, I still have time.
00:22:16
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:22:24
Natalie Richards
Exactly.
00:22:25
Felicia Devine
So I was like, Hey Dan, I'm going to take a pregnancy test. And he's like, okay, I'm going to take step down. I'm going to start coffee. Let me know when it's done. And I was like, okay.
00:22:31
Natalie Richards
hmm.
00:22:32
Felicia Devine
And like, again, i didn't even think it was going to be positive. So I just flipped it over in the bathroom by myself. And I was dumbfounded. I mean, I literally recorded like a five minute clip of me, like gaping mouth, like couldn't talk.
00:22:48
Felicia Devine
And I was like, is this real? I like couldn't believe it. It was a darker line.
00:22:52
Natalie Richards
It was a line.
00:22:54
Felicia Devine
Like it wasn't faint like it was with Giuseppe.
00:22:56
Felicia Devine
It was like a line. Yeah, I have them.
00:22:56
Natalie Richards
Did you take a picture of them?
00:22:59
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. It was like to be that day in that dark.
00:23:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:23:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah. In that dark, twins.
00:23:05
Natalie Richards
Was pretty crazy. I'm not saying it's not.
00:23:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I know.
00:23:09
Felicia Devine
Me too.
00:23:09
Natalie Richards
twin
00:23:10
Natalie Richards
Felicia, is Felicia having twins?
00:23:13
Felicia Devine
it Yes.
00:23:13
Natalie Richards
One baby. Two babies.
00:23:15
Felicia Devine
Two. It's pulling too.
00:23:17
Natalie Richards
Are you testing yourself?
00:23:17
Felicia Devine
I know. I haven't.
00:23:19
Natalie Richards
I think you should.
00:23:20
Felicia Devine
I should. So... so I like flip it over. It's positive. I can't move. I can't talk. I'm just standing there in like absolute, absolute
Speculations and Social Media Announcements
00:23:32
Felicia Devine
shock.
00:23:32
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:23:32
Felicia Devine
So then I'm like, okay, what do I, I was like, what do I do now? Cause I didn't have a plan for like it being positive. I wasn't going to like, I didn't have a plan to tell Dan. I was like, what do I do now?
00:23:42
Natalie Richards
Mm-mm.
00:23:44
Felicia Devine
Cause he's down making coffee thinking like I will come get him when it's ready.
00:23:44
Natalie Richards
All right.
00:23:48
Felicia Devine
I was just expecting it to be negative.
00:23:49
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:23:50
Felicia Devine
So I like ruined our surprise.
00:23:50
Natalie Richards
Right. right
00:23:54
Felicia Devine
I was like, oh gosh. So I was like, I like go out to the balcony or like whatever that thing is, the bridge. And I called down to Dan. I'm like, hey Dan, it's like ready. and I was like, kind of like smiling, but like, I wasn't like cheesing. i was just like, hey Dan, it's ready.
00:24:10
Felicia Devine
and he was like, why are you laughing? He's like, did you already, is it positive? Do hear you already look? And I'm like, no, I can't lie. i can't lie.
00:24:18
Natalie Richards
You can't now. Don't
00:24:19
Felicia Devine
So I'm like, come up, we'll look at it together. So I like recorded it. And he's like, oh, I don't want to be on social media. I was like, oh, don't worry. Trust me. I already recorded Okay.
00:24:27
Natalie Richards
worry, I already recorded one. of
00:24:29
Felicia Devine
But I was like, because Dan doesn't like being on social media. So I was like, I'll just record it for like our own joy.
00:24:31
Natalie Richards
No, tight. Yes.
00:24:34
Felicia Devine
Right. So I'm recording it and I'm like, oh, Dan. And he flips it over and he's like looking at it. He's like, I can't read. He's like, what is this?
00:24:44
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:24:45
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, and he's like, is it positive? Because I'm like, in the in the background, I'm like, I haven't, I didn't show it to you.
00:24:51
Natalie Richards
Wait, I need to see the video. Not that one.
00:24:55
Felicia Devine
Okay, I'll show it to you. And Giuseppe's just there with like this gigantic blueberry mustache because he was drinking a smoothie.
00:24:59
Natalie Richards
oh
00:25:01
Felicia Devine
And Dan's like, what are we looking at? He grabs like a pair of tweezers and he's like pointing.
00:25:05
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:25:06
Felicia Devine
He's like, are you looking at this line or this line? And I'm like, well, this line tells us that the test is like accurate, like valid, right?
00:25:13
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:25:13
Felicia Devine
Like the test line or control line.
00:25:14
Natalie Richards
It's the control line. Sure.
00:25:15
Felicia Devine
And then the other line that was arguably more faint, it was, but still very prominent.
00:25:21
Natalie Richards
As long as there's anything on there, it's detecting the hormone.
00:25:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, it's this line. And he was like, oh, like I need a test that says pregnant. And I was like,
00:25:30
Natalie Richards
yeah meaning We're telling a very important story, okay?
00:25:31
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:25:34
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:25:38
Natalie Richards
Honey,
00:25:38
Natalie Richards
still talking. will talk. You will talk? Hey, did I tell you that Felicia's having another baby? Felicia has
00:25:48
Natalie Richards
Okay. liha has felicia has a baby in her tummy
00:25:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah, another baby.
00:25:54
Natalie Richards
can you believe that thank can you hear yeah i useful
00:26:01
Natalie Richards
tell her Can you tell her congratulations?
00:26:06
Felicia Devine
Thanks, Jean. I can't wait for you to meet this baby.
00:26:09
Natalie Richards
have more friends, probably two.
00:26:11
Felicia Devine
Do you remember baby Sep?
00:26:14
Natalie Richards
Baby Sep is gonna have siblings.
00:26:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:20
Natalie Richards
I keep saying twins.
00:26:22
Felicia Devine
Siblings!
00:26:27
Natalie Richards
Isn't that awesome? There's more babies.
00:26:29
Felicia Devine
More babies to be had.
00:26:30
Natalie Richards
Or a baby. At least one baby. Okay, Okay, we're all done.
00:26:32
Felicia Devine
at least.
00:26:36
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:26:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:26:37
Natalie Richards
Now turn it. No, leave it on. Thank you. Go find Dad. But what about you? I'm coming. Okay, I'll be done in a little bit and we're going to go to the parade.
00:26:48
Natalie Richards
If you're a good boy, we can go to the parade. Okay, thank you. That was a cute little reaction.
00:26:52
Felicia Devine
So that was cute. He's just like uncontrollably laughing. So I think I own, I haven't even checked. I think I own like a fancy one, but I didn't use it because I was like, why use something expensive if I don't think it's going to be positive?
00:27:03
Natalie Richards
you weren't ill. Why would you?
00:27:08
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:27:08
Felicia Devine
So a brand had sent me like strips that were, they look like little like COVID tests or something.
00:27:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah, they're great.
00:27:15
Felicia Devine
Like the very simple ones.
00:27:16
Natalie Richards
Those are perfect.
00:27:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And so that's just what I used. And then I was like, oh, I guess i I don't even need to use the fancy one. I haven't even checked. Maybe if I have it, if I have it, I should pee on it and put it on like dance pillow.
00:27:29
Natalie Richards
Yes, you should. And then be like, Jean, please.
00:27:31
Felicia Devine
So it says pregnant.
00:27:35
Natalie Richards
I'm so sorry. Go tell dad to kill it. Go get dad. Dad's the bug killer. and Mommy is not the bug killer.
00:27:41
Felicia Devine
mommies's Mommies don't kill bugs. Yeah.
00:27:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:27:45
Natalie Richards
You should put it under his pillow and be like here, Dan, see?
00:27:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah, when we're done podcasting, I'll go look for it. so So anyway, so then I'm like in shock. Dan's like, this is crazy. Natalie is just about to wake up.
00:27:59
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, oh my gosh.
00:27:59
Natalie Richards
I wasn't even awake yet.
00:28:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah, so I'm like, so what do we do? And I didn't really have a plan. So then Natalie's curling her hair and i walk in her room and I throw two pregnantancy pregnancy tests down on her like vanity when she's getting ready.
00:28:13
Felicia Devine
And Natalie is like, what? Because yeah I hadn't even said I was going to test.
00:28:15
Natalie Richards
i No, I was like, are you kidding?
00:28:18
Felicia Devine
Because it wasn't the plan.
00:28:20
Natalie Richards
we had been We had muscle tested you two days before though.
00:28:22
Felicia Devine
Yes. Two days before. And you were like, eh.
00:28:24
Natalie Richards
And it was like, it was a maybe for sure.
00:28:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:28:27
Natalie Richards
Like it wasn't like a strong, absolutely yes, but I had a feeling I was like, eh, but it very well might be.
00:28:27
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yes. Yeah.
00:28:33
Natalie Richards
And everything was looking perfect with your temperatures and all that, like conditions were perfection.
00:28:34
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, my temperatures, Natalie. Oh, they were gorgeous. It was textbook.
00:28:42
Natalie Richards
Conditions were perfection. I go, of course she's going to be pregnant, but like, it wasn't coming up.
00:28:44
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
00:28:47
Natalie Richards
It wasn't coming up super strong yet.
00:28:49
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:28:49
Natalie Richards
But then two days later, Oh, it was ready.
00:28:49
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:28:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:28:52
Natalie Richards
And I couldn't believe how dark they were.
00:28:54
Natalie Richards
i That's why I was like, you can't, like, you're not even squinting.
00:28:54
Felicia Devine
I know. You literally were like, oh, that's unmistakable.
00:28:58
Natalie Richards
Like, it's a line line.
00:28:59
Felicia Devine
No. I didn't even have to hold it up to the light. It literally was like, it was there.
00:29:03
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:29:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah. so so I just like ripped the bandit off and I show Natalie and we just start giggling because I got to tell Natalie in person the day I was pregnant with Giuseppe.
00:29:15
Felicia Devine
I got to tell Natalie in person the day i got pregnant with these babies. And I'm like, this is so exciting.
00:29:19
Natalie Richards
see We're to manifest twins.
00:29:21
Felicia Devine
I'm like, Natalie is my fairy pregnancy mother.
00:29:25
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:29:25
Felicia Devine
And it's so crazy.
00:29:25
Natalie Richards
Kyle said, kyle said that he goes, you need to start charging for your fairy godmother services.
00:29:32
Felicia Devine
It's crazy because we don't get to see each other often, right?
00:29:35
Natalie Richards
No.
00:29:36
Felicia Devine
Like a few ski trips here and there, a baby shower, Disney.
00:29:40
Natalie Richards
Like maybe once, maybe twice a year.
00:29:42
Felicia Devine
In the past five years, I think I've seen you five times, maybe.
00:29:45
Natalie Richards
That is probably true. Mm-hmm.
00:29:47
Felicia Devine
And so of the five times, two of those times, I'm day one testing positive on a pregnancy.
00:29:49
Natalie Richards
It's
00:29:53
Natalie Richards
insane.
00:29:54
Felicia Devine
Insane.
00:29:55
Natalie Richards
Insane.
00:29:56
Felicia Devine
So, so lovely. What a grateful little moment I had because it was just so fun to be able to share with Natalie.
00:29:59
Natalie Richards
Oh my goodness. That was so fun. That was so fun.
00:30:03
Felicia Devine
And ironically, we had just went shopping the day before and I bought shorts and jeans that were gorgeously fitting my trim body that I just achieved a week ago.
00:30:14
Natalie Richards
Are they still fitting?
00:30:16
Felicia Devine
I did wear those jeans this week. And at one point I did unbutton the button.
00:30:20
Natalie Richards
You did already? Yeah,
00:30:21
Felicia Devine
Just because I get sensitive. It's not that I'm too big for the pants or like, it's not that the pants are too tight.
00:30:25
Natalie Richards
yeah, yeah. yeah You just don't like it to be.
00:30:28
Felicia Devine
It's like a sensory thing. It's almost like when you have like hair on the back of your neck and it's like tickling you.
00:30:31
Natalie Richards
Is that a, do you think this is a pregnancy sensory thing?
00:30:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah, because I couldn't have anything touching my belly when I was pregnant with Seb.
00:30:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:39
Felicia Devine
It was like, it's it's like if there's a little bit of pressure, I don't like it.
00:30:45
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:30:45
Felicia Devine
And it's not that the pants were too tight. It was just like touching.
00:30:47
Natalie Richards
No. that
00:30:49
Felicia Devine
So i like did unbutton them a little.
00:30:50
Natalie Richards
So no more pants for you for a while.
00:30:52
Felicia Devine
What?
00:30:53
Natalie Richards
No more pants for you for a while.
00:30:53
Felicia Devine
What'd you say I know. I know. So today I'm wearing these like barrel sweatpants and I just pulled them below my stomach.
00:30:56
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:30:59
Natalie Richards
and Yeah.
00:31:00
Felicia Devine
And it's, it's literally not cause I have a bump. It's just cause like my stomach is sensitive.
00:31:03
Natalie Richards
That is so funny. That's so funny.
00:31:06
Felicia Devine
It's almost the sensation that you get when you're really, really bloated in the pants.
00:31:11
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:31:12
Felicia Devine
You're like, I just need to unbutton this and I'll feel better.
00:31:15
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:31:15
Felicia Devine
And it's not that it gave you eight more inches of room.
00:31:18
Natalie Richards
No.
00:31:18
Felicia Devine
It's just like a little less pressure and it feels infinitely better. So I guess I feel a little bloated.
00:31:23
Natalie Richards
That's so funny.
00:31:24
Felicia Devine
Like by the end of the night, like I have like a little bloated pooch, but i don't think it's baby.
00:31:28
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:31:29
Felicia Devine
I think it's just hormonally like bloated.
00:31:30
Natalie Richards
no. no Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:32
Natalie Richards
And, you know, if you're having twins, that's going to happen really fast.
00:31:34
Felicia Devine
It might be. Yeah. Yeah. So, the other crazy thing is I squeaked in with my midwife cause she is taking a holiday break, this year, which is like perfect for her.
00:31:38
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:31:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that was amazing.
00:31:47
Felicia Devine
I think that's lovely. but I'm like one of her last clients, I think.
00:31:52
Natalie Richards
Wait, real question. Will they do twins?
00:31:54
Felicia Devine
What?
00:31:55
Natalie Richards
Can you do, can they do twins in Phil in Pennsylvania?
00:31:57
Felicia Devine
I think Allie would do twins. I think Allie would do twins. Um, twins.
00:32:00
Natalie Richards
You better ask her.
00:32:01
Felicia Devine
I know. I don't see why she wouldn't though. Cause I had a suspicion I had twins with my first.
00:32:04
Natalie Richards
Sometimes there's a law, like there's certain States that you can't do them as a midwife. Not that like, i mean, he could, uh-huh.
00:32:09
Felicia Devine
That would be crazy. I would be devastated. have to Google that. No, I will ask her.
00:32:17
Natalie Richards
Cause like California, I don't think they can do twins unless they're under like an obstetrician's supervision.
00:32:21
Felicia Devine
Okay. Well, I told you I don't do this. I never do this, Natalie, but I'm going to Google it.
00:32:27
Natalie Richards
Cause this is important information to have.
00:32:31
Felicia Devine
Midwives deliver.
00:32:33
Natalie Richards
jean do you think Felicia's having one baby or two babies? She says two babies.
00:32:38
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:32:38
Natalie Richards
Jean's a, Jean's a clairvoyant.
00:32:39
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:32:40
Natalie Richards
So.
00:32:41
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:32:42
Natalie Richards
What's this
00:32:42
Felicia Devine
Yes, midwives can deliver twins at home, but it is considered high-risk.
00:32:46
Natalie Richards
What's this for mom?
00:32:46
Felicia Devine
Specialized scenario requiring an experienced midwife.
00:32:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah, whatever. We don't care about that. She'd probably just have to call on her. Like if she hasn't done a ton of toys, she can recruit somebody else's.
00:32:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I think she's done a few twin births.
00:32:56
Natalie Richards
mom This is the light. Oh good, for oral perfect. I have light in my room. You do have a light in your room, honey. You have a lava lamp in your room, don't you? Jean, please.
00:33:10
Natalie Richards
I'm going to have to edit out so many things.
Balancing Podcasting and Parenting
00:33:13
Felicia Devine
Your poor mom is going to have to edit this whole podcast.
00:33:15
Natalie Richards
I don't have time for this, Jean.
00:33:19
Felicia Devine
Where's Kyle? Oh.
00:33:20
Natalie Richards
I don't know. Probably just laying in bed. Jean?
00:33:25
Natalie Richards
Okay. Honey, it doesn't that doesn't affect anything that that we're doing, okay? Okay. Thank you.
00:33:33
Natalie Richards
Okay. I'm about done with this.
00:33:36
Felicia Devine
Okay. We'll hurry. okay. So anyway, i think, I think she's done a few twin births. Don't quote me on that, but I think she has at least assisting in training.
00:33:47
Felicia Devine
so she's, I think seen it hey and twin births.
00:33:47
Natalie Richards
Which really like, and I think the main thing is like, you do, and one could be breach and that's okay.
00:33:51
Felicia Devine
You also want more hands off. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:56
Natalie Richards
You just have to like have somebody who knows how to do that.
00:33:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:59
Felicia Devine
that protocol.
00:34:01
Felicia Devine
So yeah, so we'll see.
00:34:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:01
Natalie Richards
And that's okay. Oh my God. I want to be there.
00:34:04
Felicia Devine
So far you can't, well, you can fly from Disney to me.
00:34:05
Natalie Richards
want to be there.
00:34:09
Felicia Devine
But so far,
00:34:11
Natalie Richards
Unless you have a Halloween baby.
00:34:14
Felicia Devine
I know i texted it or I told a friend that who loves Halloween.
00:34:16
Natalie Richards
It's very possible.
00:34:18
Felicia Devine
She loves Halloween.
00:34:18
Natalie Richards
me
00:34:19
Felicia Devine
And i was like, I could have, and one of my employees has a Halloween baby.
00:34:23
Natalie Richards
I think that would be very fun. Okay.
00:34:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah, so I'm gonna be so large on Halloween or I'm gonna be having a baby on Halloween. And that would be so par for the course because I also had Giuseppe the day of the neighborhood yard sale.
00:34:36
Natalie Richards
You're right.
00:34:36
Felicia Devine
So why would I not wanna have my child the day everyone is walking around my neighborhood again?
00:34:43
Natalie Richards
Let's also think Okay. Yes, your singleton, Giuseppe, came three weeks early. Twins situation could be like mid-October, but that can be normal for babies.
00:34:52
Felicia Devine
better hold these twins inside this belly.
00:34:56
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:34:56
Felicia Devine
And also if I am pregnant with twins, I guarantee you I'm slowing down with work where I did not, I was busier with work because I was doing Taylor's leave.
00:34:56
Natalie Richards
Like they can be totally fine.
00:35:03
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh, yeah.
00:35:06
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:35:07
Felicia Devine
And so I was working, this is going to be very different.
00:35:08
Natalie Richards
This would be so different. Thank goodness.
00:35:11
Felicia Devine
So I think I'm going to be on like a different regimen have, if I have that information.
00:35:12
Natalie Richards
You... even You need to go back to your Reiki person.
00:35:20
Felicia Devine
Wait, I did.
00:35:21
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:35:21
Felicia Devine
i went to stay.
00:35:22
Natalie Richards
Oh, you did?
00:35:23
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:35:24
Natalie Richards
while pregnant. Oh my gosh.
00:35:24
Felicia Devine
Yes. She said she knew when I was walking up.
00:35:25
Natalie Richards
Okay. What did you... What did... Okay.
00:35:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:29
Felicia Devine
So I was, she is like greeted me at the door cause a client was leaving and I was like walking from my car up and we're like laying on the table.
00:35:29
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
00:35:32
Natalie Richards
I don't
00:35:36
Felicia Devine
She puts all her rocks around me and like so many on my belly. And then we're doing that. And she's like, Hmm.
00:35:43
Natalie Richards
know.
00:35:44
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. She's like, your uterus is a giant ball of fire right now. I'm like, I'm pregnant. She's like, I know.
00:35:52
Felicia Devine
She's like, think of this was her analogy. Think of a hamster ball. Okay, so like the ball that you would put a hamster in on the floor so it doesn't like get stepped on or run away.
00:35:56
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:36:00
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:36:01
Felicia Devine
And she said, think of that size and then think of the sun, like fire pulsating in energy and pulsating out and just like tons of energy.
00:36:02
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yep.
00:36:10
Felicia Devine
She said, that's my uterus right now.
00:36:11
Natalie Richards
My word.
00:36:11
Felicia Devine
And I said, that's lovely. That means a very strong, healthy pregnancy.
00:36:15
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:36:16
Felicia Devine
So I'm like, we're crushing it.
00:36:18
Natalie Richards
Hell yeah. Did she say anything about the twin situation?
00:36:21
Felicia Devine
She did not because we had so many other things to focus on. And she kind of just like moved on. But she did say, she goes, were you nauseous with your first pregnancy? And I said, yes.
00:36:33
Natalie Richards
So bad.
00:36:33
Felicia Devine
I said, very nauseous, very long. And she's like, she's like I'm getting that you're going to be nauseous, but not as nauseous.
00:36:36
Natalie Richards
Trying to prevent that.
00:36:41
Felicia Devine
And it's not going to be nearly as long. She said, probably through April.
00:36:43
Natalie Richards
Fair enough.
00:36:45
Felicia Devine
And I was like, oh, I can do hard things.
00:36:48
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:36:48
Felicia Devine
That's not bad.
00:36:49
Natalie Richards
Done them before. them before. Can do it again.
00:36:51
Felicia Devine
I was nauseous for almost five months with Giuseppe.
00:36:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
00:36:54
Felicia Devine
So I'm like, okay, two, one and a half months. I can do that.
00:36:57
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:36:58
Felicia Devine
So I've just been drinking ginger lemonade that I make. Oh, my ice cubes.
00:37:03
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:37:04
Felicia Devine
I've just been doing two ice cubes, minerals, salt, and then I've just been drinking this throughout the day and I'll just remake it as I need to.
00:37:06
Natalie Richards
In water.
00:37:10
Natalie Richards
Love.
00:37:12
Felicia Devine
I'm not nauseous yet, but I don't want to get nauseous. So I'm like doing all my preventatives, my minerals, my ginger.
00:37:16
Natalie Richards
No.
00:37:20
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:37:20
Felicia Devine
So yeah.
00:37:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I hear six weeks is kind of like the turning point.
00:37:25
Felicia Devine
I got sick with SEPF at five.
00:37:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:37:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I'm just like, i know, I know.
00:37:29
Natalie Richards
That's what I opened was like always waiting. i was waiting. I'm like, oh, five weeks, six weeks. And then nothing really ever happened.
00:37:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:36
Natalie Richards
Thank God. But keep doing your liver, your liver and your, all that stuff.
00:37:38
Felicia Devine
But yeah, my, yes.
00:37:42
Natalie Richards
And that should help a little bit too.
00:37:43
Felicia Devine
Yep, and I'm taking my supplements, so I'm not gagging on them yet. I have no symptoms.
00:37:45
Natalie Richards
And constant, constant protein, constant.
00:37:48
Felicia Devine
I honestly he feel you're, like, i don't know how to describe it. I feel like euphoric, which is funny because I feel more energized than I felt postpartum.
00:37:54
Natalie Richards
I love that.
00:38:00
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:38:01
Felicia Devine
And I don't know if it's because Giuseppe has slept through the night like three or four times in the past week, which he doesn't do.
00:38:06
Natalie Richards
Maybe. Maybe.
00:38:08
Felicia Devine
So I'm like, am I riding a high that's like false?
00:38:12
Natalie Richards
Right, right.
00:38:13
Felicia Devine
But I feel really good. I really have slowed down on the coffee just because it doesn't like sound appetizing. Yeah.
00:38:19
Natalie Richards
That's what happened to me too. i was like, no, I don't want it.
00:38:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. When I was pregnant with step, I couldn't even smell it.
00:38:23
Natalie Richards
No.
00:38:23
Felicia Devine
I hated the thought of coffee. And now I just like have a little and I'm like, that's fine.
00:38:28
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:38:28
Felicia Devine
Like I don't need a ton, but I'm like energized. I feel good.
00:38:32
Natalie Richards
Amazing.
00:38:33
Felicia Devine
And I understand it's going to get harder, but I'm living in the moment because I know what not feeling good feels like.
00:38:37
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:38:41
Felicia Devine
So like the days I feel good, going to tell everyone,
00:38:42
Natalie Richards
No kidding.
00:38:45
Natalie Richards
And you were exhausted, right? Like with Giuseppe, like couldn't function exhausted.
00:38:49
Felicia Devine
Literally narcoleptic. Like we would be out with friends, out at family members' houses. I was falling asleep in chairs, sitting upright, falling asleep in conversations.
00:39:02
Felicia Devine
Like, isn't that crazy?
00:39:02
Natalie Richards
I think that part is going to be very different for you this time.
00:39:05
Felicia Devine
I hope so. We were at an airport. I was eight weeks pregnant. We were flying home from Michigan. We're sitting in the terminal waiting to board the plane up with hundreds of strangers around.
00:39:16
Felicia Devine
Okay. If you know me, you know, I can't fall asleep in public. Like I've never fallen asleep in class.
00:39:19
Natalie Richards
No.
00:39:20
Felicia Devine
I will not fall asleep in an airplane terminal. Like I'll fall asleep on an airplane, but that's more private.
00:39:23
Natalie Richards
No.
00:39:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:39:27
Felicia Devine
We're sitting in the terminal. I've, I was passed out sitting upright. I was like, And Dan's like, oh no, you're going to out this.
00:39:35
Natalie Richards
with oh my god oh yeah this is also very interesting yeah
00:39:36
Felicia Devine
Because at that point, we still hadn't told people. So I think hiding it also was exhausting because I was trying to fake it. Oh, I'm pouring out white claws and filling them with water.
00:39:46
Felicia Devine
Or I'm like, oh, I'm carsick. No, I'm just nauseous.
00:39:48
Natalie Richards
that is exhausting yep oh my gosh
00:39:49
Felicia Devine
Like, I love this. People know. I can be like, yeah, I'm pregnant. And i like I'm going to tell you how i how it is. So I don't know. It's not for everyone. I don't think everyone likes sharing this early. But like,
00:40:02
Felicia Devine
I had no joy in my body when I shared I was pregnant with my family, which was devastating to me because in my head, I'm like, going have this grand reveal and it's gonna be funny and everyone's going to laughing and crying and happy.
00:40:07
Natalie Richards
No kidding.
00:40:15
Felicia Devine
i literally was like, just rip the bandaid off. We were driving home from Shay and Amanda's one night and we stopped at the gas station to get a cinnamon bun so that we could go to his parents' house and just do it because I was like, I just need to rip the bandaid off.
00:40:21
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:40:24
Natalie Richards
Hmm.
00:40:28
Natalie Richards
I didn't get it over with.
00:40:28
Felicia Devine
I'm literally so ill.
00:40:30
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah, you can't hide that.
00:40:31
Felicia Devine
So now I can like tell people and I'm like, yay. Like I'm excited.
00:40:34
Natalie Richards
Right. And it's like, oh, I'm feeling kind of kind of sick today because I'm pregnant.
00:40:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:38
Natalie Richards
you know give me a little Give me a little grace.
00:40:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And it's like, okay to say that.
00:40:41
Natalie Richards
I think it's okay.
00:40:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:42
Natalie Richards
And you know what? There's something about like even if something weren't like were to happen or whatever, like then you have people who know and they you're not dealing with that alone either.
00:40:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:51
Felicia Devine
Great.
00:40:54
Natalie Richards
i think
00:40:54
Felicia Devine
Exactly.
Reflections on Early Pregnancy Sharing
00:40:55
Natalie Richards
it's okay.
00:40:55
Natalie Richards
But whatever people decide to do, I think is A-okay.
00:40:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:58
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:40:58
Felicia Devine
But I don't think I should be like, maybe look down upon because I am sharing early.
00:41:04
Natalie Richards
No, I don't think so at all.
00:41:04
Felicia Devine
And I feel like maybe some people, I had somebody in my office, the poor girl, she had no idea. i i recently was introduced to her and she goes, I saw your thing on Instagram.
00:41:16
Felicia Devine
And I go, oh yeah. And she goes, is it real? Are you actually pregnant?
00:41:20
Natalie Richards
would be horrible.
00:41:21
Felicia Devine
I go, yeah. She's like, oh, I didn't know. Maybe it was an ad for a company.
00:41:26
Felicia Devine
i go, oh my God, that would be so mean.
00:41:30
Natalie Richards
horrible
00:41:31
Felicia Devine
So all of you listening, just know I'm actually pregnant.
00:41:34
Felicia Devine
This is not a scam. This is not a stunt.
00:41:34
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:41:35
Natalie Richards
and I actually when you announced it that day, I wasn't expecting that you were going to announce the real thing.
00:41:41
Natalie Richards
right
00:41:41
Felicia Devine
What did you think I was going to do?
00:41:42
Natalie Richards
I honestly when I was watching the video, was like, I thought you were going to take like Dan's pee for a couple of days and have like. Like fake false, like fake negative ones.
00:41:56
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:41:57
Natalie Richards
And then announced it. I don't know what I thought you were going to do.
00:42:00
Felicia Devine
No, people were like shocked I actually announced it.
00:42:01
Natalie Richards
And then I was like, oh my gosh, she actually did it. i was glad that you did.
00:42:03
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:05
Natalie Richards
but I just wasn't expecting it.
00:42:08
Felicia Devine
I think a lot of people were caught off guard because i mean, part of my thing is when I first made the commitment to this is like, I wanted to be true to the fact that I was like posting in real time.
00:42:18
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:42:18
Felicia Devine
So like I did wait two days so that I could tell family. I didn't want anybody to find out online.
00:42:22
Natalie Richards
Which, No, no, no.
00:42:24
Felicia Devine
and then I told a few of my closest friends and I was like this, like I shared the day after I missed my period. So like,
00:42:32
Natalie Richards
I know, which is crazy. Yeah.
00:42:35
Felicia Devine
I guess, wait, so I tested positive Sunday. i shared Wednesday. So really like three days.
00:42:40
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:42:41
Felicia Devine
But I think that's still pretty much in real time, right?
00:42:44
Natalie Richards
I would say yes, because you that's when most people would find out maybe like,
00:42:46
Felicia Devine
and
00:42:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. And like some people probably don't, don't know they're pregnant then still.
00:42:54
Natalie Richards
no.
00:42:55
Felicia Devine
so I just wanted to be authentic about that and not feel like I'm like putting on a stunt and then like hiding when it actually is hard.
00:43:01
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:43:05
Felicia Devine
Cause it is, I mean, like a lot of people do not share for at minimum 12 weeks with their family, let alone the internet.
00:43:05
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:43:10
Natalie Richards
Exactly. i know. And the things that you're going through during those first 12 weeks, like that's, you that's when you need the support.
00:43:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, it's a risky move, but I'm willing to take it because I feel good and I feel confident and i am ready for like the next phase, you know?
00:43:23
Natalie Richards
I think it's great.
00:43:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:43:32
Natalie Richards
Yep, think it's great.
00:43:33
Felicia Devine
So we'll see. I don't know. It might be a very different pregnancy.
00:43:35
Natalie Richards
Jane is being a menace today. She is screaming from across the house.
00:43:38
Felicia Devine
I know that's crazy.
00:43:43
Natalie Richards
Mama! I can't. I can't.
00:43:49
Felicia Devine
and do you want to wrap this up?
00:43:50
Natalie Richards
I think we should.
00:43:52
Felicia Devine
right.
00:43:52
Natalie Richards
So congratulations.
00:43:52
Felicia Devine
so and thank you.
00:43:54
Natalie Richards
This is a crazy, amazing journey. Pretty sure you're having twins, but we'll determine that.
00:43:58
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:43:59
Natalie Richards
Pretty sure they're boy, boy, boy twins, but we'll see.
00:43:59
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:44:03
Felicia Devine
Oh my God. I love it. I love it. And they're already named Alfredo and Alfonso.
00:44:07
Natalie Richards
Yes. Oh my gosh.
00:44:10
Felicia Devine
And we're going to call them Fredo and Fonso.
00:44:10
Natalie Richards
Let's hope it's not a girl. Cause you don't have a girl. Alfreda.
00:44:12
Felicia Devine
I know. Cause then I'll have to call her Fonza. Alfonso. Alfredo.
00:44:18
Natalie Richards
reda
00:44:20
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. But yeah, so Natalie's going to go to the parade. I'm going to probably like clean up my house a little, get some stuff done.
00:44:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I need to do that too. Oh, I miss you.
00:44:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah. All right. I miss you. It was good talking.
00:44:34
Natalie Richards
It was.
00:44:35
Felicia Devine
All right. We'll talk next time. Bye.