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S2.Ep7 - Reiki Told Me I'm Too Busy- But Not Too Busy for Some Skincare and Conspiracies
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In this wild episode, we spiral from warm lemon detox drinks straight into psychic Reiki downloads, frozen feet with emotional baggage, and the shocking revelation that there may be two more babies waiting in the cosmic queue.
Naturally, this leads us into:
✨ Vivid death-dream symbolism (casual)
✨ Korean skincare that feels like rubbing glass shards on your face
✨ Clean nails, sweaty childhood trauma, and healer hot hands
✨ A full conspiracy-theory birthday party featuring pyramids, chemtrails, Avril Lavigne clones… and the possibility that we never actually landed on the moon
Basically, nothing is real, everything is glowing, and we might be psychic now.
Welcome to Episode 7 of Functionally Feral — where healing, motherhood, and mild delusion coexist beautifully.
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Transcript
Intro
Morning Rituals and Drinks
00:00:50
Felicia Devine
Hello and welcome back to episode seven.
00:00:53
Natalie Richards
Hey, hey, Felicia.
00:00:54
Felicia Devine
hey. hey hi Natalie.
00:00:57
Natalie Richards
Here we are.
00:00:58
Felicia Devine
know, here we are, episode seven.
00:00:59
Natalie Richards
Wait, what are you what are you drinking today?
00:01:01
Felicia Devine
Just a basic coffee. Like a coffee with like a sweet cream in it.
00:01:06
Natalie Richards
That sounds good.
00:01:07
Felicia Devine
It is delicious. But I did a egg yolk espresso yesterday.
00:01:10
Natalie Richards
oh yeah.
00:01:13
Felicia Devine
it was fancy. I had to take two-day break from my matcha journey.
00:01:17
Natalie Richards
Oh, my gosh.
00:01:18
Felicia Devine
I just had to return back to the the grounds of coffee that I know and will taste good.
00:01:18
Natalie Richards
That's silly.
00:01:24
Natalie Richards
Silly little matcha.
00:01:25
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:01:27
Natalie Richards
drinking... Okay. The past like almost week, I've been doing warm lemon water with like a dandelion in tincture in it, or I've been doing like an everyday detox.
00:01:34
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:01:39
Natalie Richards
like It's like dandelion and tea, kind of.
00:01:40
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:01:41
Natalie Richards
And I've loved it.
00:01:41
Felicia Devine
Ooh.
00:01:43
Natalie Richards
It's amazing.
00:01:43
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:01:44
Natalie Richards
I really like it a lot.
00:01:46
Felicia Devine
i love that for you.
00:01:46
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I'll see how it goes like long-term, but it's like kind of an enjoyable...
00:01:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:01:51
Felicia Devine
Is it earthy?
00:01:52
Natalie Richards
Little drip. Yeah.
00:01:53
Felicia Devine
Or can you not taste the dandelion?
00:01:53
Natalie Richards
More on the earthy side Barely. You can barely taste it.
00:01:57
Felicia Devine
Can I go like harvest my own dandelion?
00:01:57
Natalie Richards
It's mostly a lemon. Technically you could, except for the fact, well, you don't, do you treat your, do you treat your lawn?
00:02:02
Felicia Devine
says I don't know.
00:02:03
Natalie Richards
No. So, so sure.
00:02:04
Felicia Devine
No, she's free range.
00:02:07
Natalie Richards
It's a free range dandelion.
00:02:10
Felicia Devine
But I think we have a lot of ticks in my my area.
00:02:13
Natalie Richards
Oh, you probably do.
00:02:14
Felicia Devine
So I don't know, like, could I like infuse it with Lyme disease?
00:02:14
Natalie Richards
Well, you can, it doesn't matter.
00:02:17
Felicia Devine
i don't know.
00:02:18
Natalie Richards
doesn't, know no, no, no. no no
00:02:19
Felicia Devine
I mean, honestly, my whole shtick is I'd rather buy it anyway.
00:02:22
Natalie Richards
For sure.
00:02:23
Felicia Devine
You know, I'm not trying to make my own dandelion tinctures.
00:02:24
Natalie Richards
It's much easier just to, no, no.
00:02:27
Felicia Devine
I'd probably poison myself.
00:02:28
Natalie Richards
I found this dandelion tincture at a farmer's market like up in the Northwoods, like in Wisconsin at the lake. And I was like, oh, beautiful.
00:02:36
Felicia Devine
Oh, cool.
00:02:37
Natalie Richards
And it was this cute little Northwoods, I think it's literally called Northwoods Tea. dot com or company or whatever.
00:02:42
Felicia Devine
Oh, I love something like that.
00:02:43
Natalie Richards
And they make like tinctures from like hand foraged items and they make teas and all kinds of stuff. So I got like a usnea and a dandelion tincture.
00:02:55
Felicia Devine
I love that.
00:02:55
Natalie Richards
i know so fun, but I've loved it.
00:02:56
Felicia Devine
That's so lovely.
00:02:57
Natalie Richards
like even just like the lemon, warm lemon in the morning before I do anything else, I feel like it sets me up in a very nice way.
00:03:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:03:06
Natalie Richards
I like it a lot.
00:03:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah. i when I had the flu, I made, Dan went to the store and got me a bundle of lemons and a big chunk of ginger.
00:03:13
Natalie Richards
hello
00:03:14
Felicia Devine
and I just like blended those all together. And then I put them into ice molds.
00:03:19
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah.
00:03:19
Felicia Devine
So what I've been doing is just making hot water and I plop a ginger lemon cube in.
00:03:20
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:03:23
Natalie Richards
Yes. Somebody else told me that.
00:03:25
Felicia Devine
It was, it's just a lovely little hack because it doesn't go bad because it's a frozen.
00:03:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I hate ginger.
00:03:30
Felicia Devine
oh you don't like ginger?
00:03:31
Natalie Richards
i hate it.
00:03:32
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:03:32
Natalie Richards
It's like it's like a like a guttural reaction that I like despise it, actually.
00:03:36
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:03:39
Natalie Richards
i don't know why.
00:03:39
Felicia Devine
Oh. Well, it's not Dan. I think Dan's brother hates him because when he was motion sick on a fishing boat, they gave him like ginger snaps or something.
00:03:46
Natalie Richards
oh
00:03:48
Felicia Devine
And like he associates the ginger with like seasickness.
00:03:51
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. but Well, right.
00:03:54
Felicia Devine
That was me pregnant. Everything I associated with pregnancy, I couldn't even wear socks postpartum because of the association with being sick.
00:04:02
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:04:02
Felicia Devine
So I get that.
00:04:03
Natalie Richards
acupuncturist my acupuncture actually told me, she goes, well, you're a Leo, because she knows
Reiki Session Insights
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Natalie Richards
I'm always hot. Like we're constantly trying to work on my my internal heat.
00:04:10
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:04:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:04:14
Natalie Richards
But she's like, you're a Leo.
00:04:15
Natalie Richards
And everybody that I know that's a Leo has an internal... heat to them. And ginger is so warming that it's like like repulsive.
00:04:21
Felicia Devine
Oh. Oh, it just like sends you through the roof. Okay.
00:04:26
Natalie Richards
It's like way too much.
00:04:27
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:04:29
Natalie Richards
And then I was like, okay, that definitely, that makes sense.
00:04:29
Felicia Devine
Way too much for you. Do you like spicy food?
00:04:32
Natalie Richards
And turmeric too. Like I do like spicy, spicy food, but even like turmeric kind of like repulses me a little bit to an, in an odd way.
00:04:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:04:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. o
00:04:40
Natalie Richards
i don't know.
00:04:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:04:40
Natalie Richards
It's kind of funny.
00:04:42
Felicia Devine
I'm trying to think what else. Like, do you ever do like, is it golden? What's that thing called? Golden seal?
00:04:48
Natalie Richards
Like a golden milk tea.
00:04:50
Felicia Devine
Golden milk tea?
00:04:51
Natalie Richards
golden sea Golden seal is berberine.
00:04:54
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:04:54
Natalie Richards
Golden milk is like a turmeric coconut milk tea.
00:04:55
Felicia Devine
What is golden milk? Is it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
00:05:01
Natalie Richards
It's not my thing.
00:05:02
Felicia Devine
I'm not a big turmeric fan.
00:05:03
Natalie Richards
It's not my thing. No, I just, I don't know why.
00:05:05
Felicia Devine
I don't think. Except for I don't really know because the only Indian dish I like is, I'm drawing a blank on it. It's cheese cubes. What's it called?
00:05:13
Natalie Richards
Oh, paneer.
00:05:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. but
00:05:15
Natalie Richards
hu
00:05:15
Felicia Devine
Does that have turmeric in it?
00:05:17
Natalie Richards
You probably not.
00:05:18
Felicia Devine
Mudder. Mudder paneer. What is that? I don't even know. Is mudder the flavor? Yeah.
00:05:22
Natalie Richards
it It's probably like the type of sauce that comes. The paneer itself is the cheese.
00:05:26
Felicia Devine
Right, right, right. I love the cheese cubes.
00:05:27
Natalie Richards
but And then whatever's around it is whatever type of sauce.
00:05:31
Felicia Devine
I tell myself it's tofu. I'm like, oh, this is just tofu. No, it's cheese cubes.
00:05:35
Natalie Richards
Cheese cubes.
00:05:36
Felicia Devine
It's so good though.
00:05:36
Natalie Richards
I love that. I love, see, that's what's funny. I love Indian food. I don't know why, but I've loved i've loved it since I was a baby, like a child.
00:05:41
Felicia Devine
You do?
00:05:44
Felicia Devine
Wait, you're the you're the one that ate the Indian food from the place next to my house first because you came to watch Josephine when I was at that wedding.
00:05:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:05:55
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:05:55
Felicia Devine
And you ordered Indian food. And I'm like, I've never eaten Indian food. Then you gave me some of the the garlic naan the next day or no when I got home and I was so drunk.
00:06:00
Natalie Richards
Best.
00:06:02
Natalie Richards
Yes. It's the best. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah.
00:06:07
Felicia Devine
You fed me garlic naan on my living room floor.
00:06:09
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:06:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:10
Natalie Richards
Is that the... Did you throw up?
00:06:12
Felicia Devine
Throw up in the car.
00:06:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:06:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. I will say I was car sick, but I was also hammered.
00:06:15
Natalie Richards
That's the one. Okay. Yeah. Sure.
00:06:19
Felicia Devine
We were on these like back winding roads for an hour, like literally back roads for an hour with no street lights.
00:06:20
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:06:25
Felicia Devine
It was, and we were in the Cadillac.
00:06:25
Natalie Richards
That's right. That's right.
00:06:27
Felicia Devine
We were like, Oh, who
00:06:28
Natalie Richards
wo my God. This has already gotten derailed.
00:06:31
Felicia Devine
So I was carsick. was carsick. But anyway, so you ordered Indian food from that restaurant, which introduced me to that restaurant.
00:06:39
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:06:39
Felicia Devine
But then we ordered from there a ton when we lived at that house.
00:06:39
Natalie Richards
Got it.
00:06:43
Felicia Devine
Delicious.
00:06:43
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:06:43
Felicia Devine
I don't know how we derailed, but you get really hot.
00:06:44
Natalie Richards
It's the best.
00:06:46
Felicia Devine
Okay. So we're working on your internal temperature.
00:06:47
Natalie Richards
I get really hot. I'm working.
00:06:48
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:06:49
Natalie Richards
I'm working on it. I have to like help myself release energy. Everybody also in the past week, my patients and people I've been working on, they go, your hands are so warm.
00:06:52
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:06:59
Natalie Richards
Like I, it feels like an actual heating pad is on my back and I go, yeah, well, there's nothing I can do about it.
00:07:02
Felicia Devine
Heating pad. okay I've, I've really warm hands too.
00:07:08
Natalie Richards
But that's like the sign of a good healer. So we're good healers.
00:07:10
Felicia Devine
hu
00:07:12
Felicia Devine
On the contrary to hot hands. Do you want to hear about my Reiki session?
00:07:16
Natalie Richards
yes.
00:07:18
Natalie Richards
Oh, yes.
00:07:20
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:07:20
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:07:20
Felicia Devine
Cause we have so many things to talk about.
00:07:20
Natalie Richards
This also, we have so many things to talk about. I have no idea where this episode is going to go.
00:07:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:26
Natalie Richards
we we can always like, we'll circle back.
00:07:26
Felicia Devine
Strap in.
00:07:29
Felicia Devine
We can circle back to something if we need to.
00:07:31
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:07:31
Felicia Devine
And this probably wasn't what I was going to start with, but we were talking about hot hands.
00:07:32
Natalie Richards
Yes. Reiki. Oh, doesn't matter. Yes.
00:07:36
Felicia Devine
So i growing up have always had really hot hands and really sweaty, hot feet.
00:07:39
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:07:42
Felicia Devine
Like I'm going to go as far as to say like disgustingly sweaty feet.
00:07:42
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:07:44
Natalie Richards
yes
00:07:47
Felicia Devine
Like I couldn't wear sandals growing up. You know, those like old Navy, you know, those old Navy plastic sandals that everyone loved.
00:07:50
Natalie Richards
Because it would be like a slip and slide.
00:07:54
Natalie Richards
The dollar flip-flops.
00:07:56
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:07:56
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:07:57
Felicia Devine
And you would mix and match color. I couldn't wear those.
00:07:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:07:59
Felicia Devine
Those were actually a health hazard for me because they were so slippery.
00:07:59
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:08:02
Felicia Devine
It was as if I was walking on like like a slip and slide.
00:08:03
Natalie Richards
Oh, no. Oh, no.
00:08:05
Felicia Devine
I couldn't wear, I could not wear sandals. And I still can't wear sandals that don't have a fabric bottom.
00:08:12
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:08:12
Felicia Devine
So like my Birkenstocks, I wear, well, I don't wear the brand Birkenstock. I wear Mephisto, but they have like a fabric sole.
00:08:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:08:21
Natalie Richards
I gotcha. Okay.
00:08:23
Felicia Devine
I couldn't wear rainbows growing up.
00:08:24
Natalie Richards
I'm kind of the same way.
00:08:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:26
Natalie Richards
I've always been like that.
00:08:27
Felicia Devine
It's a liability. i Like I literally look at a shoe and I'm like, I couldn't wear that for more than one minute.
00:08:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:08:35
Felicia Devine
You know, when jellies came back into popularity,
00:08:36
Natalie Richards
Oh my God. I can't know. Instant blister, first of all. Slipping around.
00:08:40
Felicia Devine
oh my God, so slipping around.
00:08:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:08:43
Felicia Devine
No, Natalie, one time I went to Nashville and I wore my Mephisto's.
00:08:50
Felicia Devine
and So they had a fabric bottom, okay. I was so sweaty walking around all day in these methistas that the leather disintegrated on the shoe.
00:09:02
Felicia Devine
I looked down. They were bubbling. My feet had bubbled over. it looked like there was mud on my foot because the leather disintegrated within my sweat.
00:09:13
Felicia Devine
It was, I had to throw the shoe away in Nashville.
00:09:16
Natalie Richards
Oh, no.
00:09:17
Felicia Devine
It was crazy. Anyway, so that's how, like, that's just the backstory for like how hot and my hands and feet usually are.
00:09:19
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:09:23
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:09:24
Felicia Devine
Now, moving into yesterday's Reiki session, I didn't tell the Reiki master anything. I just like, hey, I want an appointment. I'm a new patient, whatever. So I get there.
00:09:35
Felicia Devine
She doesn't know who I am. And
00:09:37
Natalie Richards
So this is a different person than did your first one.
00:09:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:41
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:09:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:42
Natalie Richards
Good.
00:09:43
Felicia Devine
She's very well known. She's been practicing for 13 years. Like she's very good at what she does. I've heard, but I didn't know what I was getting into.
00:09:51
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:09:51
Felicia Devine
Okay, because my only experience with Reiki was one time, and, like, based on what I talked to this lady about, she said, like, it's very much practitioner-practitioner.
00:10:02
Felicia Devine
Like, the scope of Reiki could be anything at this point.
00:10:02
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:10:05
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:10:06
Felicia Devine
Like, it was very eye-opening. So I get there. I lay on this, like, bed. I'm in, like, what looks like maybe a massage room.
00:10:13
Natalie Richards
Sure.
00:10:13
Felicia Devine
It's in her house, but it's a bedroom, and she's turned it into, like – there's, like, crystals all over, and there's, like –
00:10:15
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:10:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah, like a nice little massage therapy.
00:10:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Beaded bracelets that have like tourmaline and like, you know, all the different types of, stones.
00:10:20
Natalie Richards
well Sure.
00:10:27
Felicia Devine
And then there's a big drum that like, I think at one point she would drum, but she didn't use that on me, but she has all her tools.
00:10:32
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:10:33
Felicia Devine
So she's like, okay. Like, we didn't even say like, what are you here for?
00:10:38
Natalie Richards
She says, let's go.
00:10:38
Felicia Devine
She was just like, get on the table. And I was like, I know i'm going to like you. Cause you're going to pull stuff out that I didn't have to like tell you.
00:10:42
Natalie Richards
oh
00:10:45
Natalie Richards
Correct.
00:10:46
Felicia Devine
So I get on the table
00:10:46
Natalie Richards
Yes, yes, yes.
00:10:48
Felicia Devine
And she's like, I'm just going to start off by saying I'm super chatty. And I'm like, oh, okay. That's not – I'm a chatter too. So I'm like, when I work, I kind of talk through things.
00:10:56
Natalie Richards
Fine.
00:10:57
Felicia Devine
So she's like, this might feel different than any experience you've ever had before. and she's like, my guides – she goes, my guides use humor to like give me messages.
00:11:08
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, oh, I like you.
00:11:09
Natalie Richards
This is great.
00:11:09
Felicia Devine
Like we're not just like using our hands to move energy. Like she's getting like downloads and she's telling me what the guides are telling her.
00:11:15
Natalie Richards
Okay. Beautiful.
00:11:19
Natalie Richards
beaut. Okay.
00:11:20
Felicia Devine
So I'm like, okay, I love this.
00:11:21
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:11:22
Felicia Devine
So she starts placing, I think she placed like, I'm going to say 20 to 30 stones in and around me
00:11:30
Natalie Richards
Different types of stones.
00:11:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:31
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:11:32
Felicia Devine
And I don't know what she was placing.
00:11:32
Natalie Richards
Like different crystals that correspond with different chakras more than likely.
00:11:34
Felicia Devine
Different crystals. Yes. So I was laying on my back and my hands were just like crossed on my belly and I had stones on my legs.
00:11:38
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
00:11:42
Felicia Devine
I had stones around my torso, on my chest, on my belly.
00:11:45
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:11:45
Felicia Devine
Like if I would have gotten up, it would have been like, like it would have been a disaster.
00:11:48
Natalie Richards
thats
00:11:49
Felicia Devine
So I was like frozen in space.
00:11:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:11:51
Felicia Devine
And then she's like, okay, so nothing I say today here should be taken like personally. It's just what I'm being told and downloaded and like, you know, nothing the other side is negative like she was kind of just giving me this preface of like don't be mad at me and I was like oh god so she puts her hand on my top shoulder and then she puts her hand on i think like my pelvis hip area she's sitting next to me and she's like hmm
00:12:06
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:12:21
Felicia Devine
huh interesting yep okay really and I'm like
00:12:27
Natalie Richards
Oh, funny. I love it.
00:12:30
Felicia Devine
like, where are we going with this? She goes, yeah, I'm getting, you lot of energy. And I'm like, okay. She's like, I'm getting a puppy dog, golden retriever, lot chaotic energy.
00:12:43
Felicia Devine
I'm like, what? She's like, yeah, ton tons of energy. you have You have a lot going on. Right. And I'm like, yeah. She's like, no, it's not a bad thing. And she's like, there's so much energy. And I was like, well, that's like a good, you don't want to be like dead.
00:12:55
Natalie Richards
good like dead exactly like oh i'm having a hard time picking up on anything
00:12:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah, she's like, she's like no pulse, no pulse. So she's like telling me like this golden retriever energy, like she was going on and on about it. And i was like, okay.
00:13:09
Natalie Richards
oh there we go
00:13:09
Felicia Devine
And then she's like, she's like, wow, tons of baby energy. I'm like, oh, now we're talking. Now we're talking. she's And I was like, yeah, I think we're gonna start trying for a baby soon.
00:13:20
Felicia Devine
She goes, yep, I can definitely tell that. She's like, you tons of baby energy. Like it's like turned on. And I was like, awesome.
00:13:29
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:13:29
Felicia Devine
And I told her, I said, you know, i foresee in my future maybe having twins. And she's like, hmm. So she's like, she's like nope.
00:13:41
Felicia Devine
She goes, if you have anything to do with it, I would hope you would say no to twins. And I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, from what I'm reading, they would just absolutely destroy you.
00:13:50
Natalie Richards
Destroy you. I mean, I, sounds about right.
00:13:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, what I'm getting from your energy and my guides is saying that like, you don't know how to put anything down metaphorically or physically.
00:13:59
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:14:01
Felicia Devine
She's like, you just like, yeah.
00:14:01
Natalie Richards
You do it to 100%, yeah.
00:14:03
Felicia Devine
She's like, you, you like go so hard that you like, can't put something down. And she's like, if you have twins, you would literally fatigue out burnout so quickly in motherhood that it would be disastrous for you and a good job.
00:14:07
Natalie Richards
And that would just, it would destroy you. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you wouldn't feel like you were doing things in the way that you wanted to do them.
00:14:18
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:19
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. So she was like, if you have any say in it, maybe not twins.
00:14:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:22
Felicia Devine
And she was like, yeah, what I'm getting is three separate pregnancies.
00:14:22
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Oh.
00:14:25
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:26
Felicia Devine
And I'm like, three more? And she's like, no, no, three total. And I'm like, okay, so I have two more babies.
00:14:30
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:14:32
Felicia Devine
And maybe that's where the downloads are coming from about like twins is have two waiting.
00:14:35
Natalie Richards
sure. Is that you just have two? Sure.
00:14:38
Felicia Devine
So I'm curious.
00:14:39
Natalie Richards
Oh, my word.
00:14:40
Felicia Devine
I don't know. So that was really interesting. And I was like, okay. So we tabled that. And then we started talking about like all these other things related to like, sorry, Josephine is knocking at the door.
00:14:50
Natalie Richards
Oh, is she? is the Oh, sweet girl.
00:14:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it's okay. So,
00:14:55
Felicia Devine
Okay, so then she's telling me about stuff that's work-related, which, like, isn't that important for the sake of the podcast. I mean, it kind of is. But she was like, you're fingering too many things.
00:15:06
Felicia Devine
Like, you're you trying to do everything at once, and you're like,
00:15:07
Natalie Richards
Hello.
00:15:13
Felicia Devine
like, even if somebody has the task, you want to know about it. You want to be involved in the decision. and she's like, you got to step back a little. And I was like, well, that's probably true.
00:15:21
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Okay.
00:15:22
Felicia Devine
I have to know everything in the office. I don't know. i'm like a control freak, right?
00:15:26
Natalie Richards
Sure. I mean, yeah, absolutely.
00:15:27
Felicia Devine
Who isn't? so she was like, you need to kind of like delegate out better.
00:15:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:34
Natalie Richards
and actually truly delegate things that you actually feel like you can separate yourself from.
00:15:34
Felicia Devine
cause it's yeah.
00:15:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah. She's like, cause it's like, Right. And like part of the funniness after the session was like, I literally had to deal with like three work problems immediately following the Reiki session on a Friday.
00:15:50
Felicia Devine
And I never have to do that.
00:15:51
Natalie Richards
Well, isn't that just a test?
00:15:51
Felicia Devine
So it was kind of like a reminder of like, yeah, you need to step back and in some regards.
00:15:55
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:15:59
Felicia Devine
So I had like a payroll issue on Friday.
00:16:01
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:16:01
Felicia Devine
so I'm like, okay, i really do need to push payroll to my office manager.
00:16:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:16:06
Felicia Devine
And like, I don't need to be doing that. It doesn't require any special skill.
00:16:08
Natalie Richards
No. No.
00:16:11
Felicia Devine
And my sister can do that. Like she's skilled enough to do so.
00:16:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:16:14
Felicia Devine
And I trust her.
00:16:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:16:15
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:16:15
Felicia Devine
The reason I don't offload payroll is because it's just like at a very intimate, like you don't want people kind of seeing that side.
00:16:21
Natalie Richards
It's in from. Yeah.
00:16:23
Natalie Richards
Yes. with I know. I know.
00:16:24
Felicia Devine
So that's why I've been kind of hesitant.
00:16:26
Felicia Devine
So she's talking about work and she's like, you just like do too much and and and then she's like, well, I'm just like picking up is like, you're so much energy. And I'm like, I'm like loving her telling me that I'm like, hell yeah.
00:16:39
Natalie Richards
Beautiful.
00:16:39
Felicia Devine
But she's like, but part of it is that you make it seem like you have this little like exterior that like, oh, I'm i'm fine.
00:16:46
Felicia Devine
Like there's, there's no problem. And so like, I have like 300 tabs open in my head, but I like make it look easy.
00:16:51
Natalie Richards
huh
00:16:53
Felicia Devine
And she's like, that's a problem.
00:16:56
Natalie Richards
It's a path to burning out really fast.
00:16:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah, she's like she' was like, you are like putting on this like front that like you're good, but like that's a problem.
00:16:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:17:03
Natalie Richards
hu I have that issue as well.
00:17:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I was like, that is true. So I, at the end of the day, this was like a psychic reading is what I'm getting at.
00:17:10
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:17:11
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:17:11
Felicia Devine
she was doing Reiki and like moving energy, but she was basically like giving me a psychic reading and I was like, so into it.
00:17:18
Felicia Devine
And then she's like, yeah, the other thing, i the other thing I'm picking up is that you don't really have a community. i'm like, what? And she's like, yeah, like, uh, I'm getting a sense that you don't have anyone that like you have really like close, And like, you know, I'm getting like mom, dad, she's like, you're a transplant.
00:17:33
Felicia Devine
Right. And I was like, yeah, I'm like, not from here. She said like, okay. And she's like, yeah, you know like don't have your people. And I was like, I was like, yeah, I don't really have friends. And that's like, so sad.
00:17:42
Natalie Richards
Not. cut Yeah.
00:17:45
Felicia Devine
Cause like my closest friends are like you, like, i don't have a circle here.
00:17:46
Natalie Richards
Wait, that's so true. That's true.
00:17:52
Felicia Devine
And so, and, and she's like,
00:17:53
Natalie Richards
You have people you com commit you associate with, but not necessarily.
00:17:56
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. And she's like, you use your practice to fulfill some of those needs and build those relationships, but they can only go so deep because you have to create
00:17:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
Social Circle and Personal Growth
00:18:05
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:18:05
Felicia Devine
boundaries.
00:18:06
Felicia Devine
So like with my employees and I know in my patients and stuff, and i was just like, it like, yeah, I don't really have friends.
00:18:06
Natalie Richards
Called out.
00:18:13
Felicia Devine
who
00:18:13
Natalie Richards
Whoa.
00:18:14
Felicia Devine
So that was awkward.
00:18:15
Natalie Richards
oh
00:18:16
Felicia Devine
But that's okay.
00:18:17
Natalie Richards
well, that's why I'm coming to visit you.
00:18:17
Felicia Devine
There's, you know, room for improvement. Yeah. She's like, that at the end of the day is going to wear you down eventually because you require closeness.
00:18:25
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:28
Natalie Richards
yeah Yeah.
00:18:29
Felicia Devine
And like, obviously I have Dan and i have my brother and Amanda and stuff, but it's really different when you don't have that, like those besties.
00:18:33
Natalie Richards
It's different. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:18:38
Felicia Devine
So that was interesting.
00:18:38
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:18:40
Felicia Devine
And then she, she's making her way down my leg and then she gets my foot and she's like, Oh, I'm getting like a cinder block of ice.
00:18:54
Felicia Devine
She's like, your foot is frozen. i'm like, what? Cause I have hot feet usually, right?
00:18:59
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:19:00
Felicia Devine
Like my history has been sweaty feet and that's like my full personality growing up.
00:19:02
Natalie Richards
is. Yes. well
00:19:06
Felicia Devine
I'm like, can't do that.
00:19:07
Felicia Devine
Have sweaty feet. I like quit karate as a kid because I couldn't be barefoot in the studio. Cause I'd sweaty feet. Like it has shaped my life.
00:19:17
Natalie Richards
Oh, my gosh.
00:19:18
Felicia Devine
I also like didn't want to have a boyfriend growing up because I had sweaty hands.
00:19:19
Natalie Richards
No, it is. It forms
00:19:21
Felicia Devine
Like literally my sweaty hands and feet.
00:19:21
Natalie Richards
A lot of your decision-making actually is based upon your appendage sweat.
00:19:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:19:27
Natalie Richards
Okay. Sure.
00:19:27
Felicia Devine
Like my face never sweats.
00:19:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:19:29
Felicia Devine
My armpits sweat normal amounts. Like my my hands and my feet have been like a source of like, like I went to the dermatologist growing up and they were like, yeah, I think the next solution is like Botox in your hands.
00:19:35
Natalie Richards
No,
00:19:42
Natalie Richards
thank you.
00:19:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And my mom was like, oh, we're going to not do that.
00:19:45
Natalie Richards
no the gi
00:19:47
Felicia Devine
But I don't know if I've said this on the podcast. We used to buy prescription grade antiperspirant deodorant and I would slather it on my hands and then put socks over my hands at night and I would sleep with prescription antiperspirant.
00:20:02
Felicia Devine
To dry my sweat out.
00:20:03
Natalie Richards
Oh word.
00:20:05
Felicia Devine
I know. my My mom tried everything because I was – it truly shaped so much of my social life and my personal life.
00:20:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:13
Felicia Devine
And, like, i I wouldn't even, like, want to shake hands. Like, if you had to do a team building activity in a classroom and, like, get out of the hand-holding, like, ring – nightmare.
00:20:25
Felicia Devine
I didn't go to skate country and do the slow song where you dance around and skate around in the circle with someone. I would like run to the bathroom, i would skate to the bathroom because I didn't want to hold hands with someone.
00:20:34
Natalie Richards
Oh, my gosh.
00:20:36
Felicia Devine
Okay. So she gets to my foot. She goes, cinder block of ice. And I go, that's crazy because what's happening down there? So she's telling me i have like no energy in my feet.
00:20:47
Felicia Devine
And I'm not really sure what that ties to. Like, I don't really have an answer.
00:20:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:20:50
Felicia Devine
But over the past few months, I have developed the worst calluses ever.
00:20:51
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:20:59
Felicia Devine
Like my mom was like, this is a medical concern. Like she saw them at Christmas and she was like, I've truly never seen feet that like and in like encrusted in a shell.
00:21:02
Natalie Richards
What?
00:21:10
Natalie Richards
What?
00:21:11
Felicia Devine
Like Natalie, I'm not kidding you. Like my feet hurt.
00:21:14
Natalie Richards
you think you're like allergic to a shoe?
00:21:16
Felicia Devine
No, I think she's right in saying I have like no energy to my foot.
00:21:20
Natalie Richards
Or you're so blocked, you've created a block because you're,
00:21:21
Felicia Devine
And it, I've like, there's no blood flow down there. There's no energy.
00:21:26
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:21:27
Felicia Devine
Like they literally like turned into a crust.
00:21:29
Natalie Richards
What?
00:21:30
Felicia Devine
And I'm saying this for the whole world to hear.
00:21:31
Natalie Richards
What?
00:21:33
Felicia Devine
It was crazy. My mom and i had to do like an hour pedicure. She sat there and she scrubbed with like callus remover and like tools and took some of the calluses off.
00:21:43
Natalie Richards
What?
00:21:46
Felicia Devine
Cause it's, I literally was like, mom, do I have elephantitis?
00:21:49
Natalie Richards
Wait, that's so weird.
00:21:51
Felicia Devine
Isn't that crazy? And I've, I've literally never had a callus on my foot in my life because my feet are always wet.
00:21:53
Natalie Richards
oh never had that. and Because they're so sweaty.
00:21:56
Felicia Devine
I have like hot tub feet.
00:21:58
Natalie Richards
Wait, that's so weird.
00:22:00
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:22:00
Natalie Richards
I'm a very callous-y person. My whole family is very callous-y person.
00:22:02
Felicia Devine
Oh, see, I've never had a callus problem.
00:22:07
Natalie Richards
Interesting.
00:22:08
Felicia Devine
So I tell her this. I'm like, my feet have been encrusted in a shell. So hopefully after she restored some energy to my feet, we can start recovering because I've been working on removing the calluses, but you can't go too quickly because you'll like literally injure yourself.
00:22:15
Natalie Richards
Yes. Mm-mm.
00:22:22
Natalie Richards
They're there for some reason too.
00:22:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:24
Natalie Richards
Like they're protecting something or it's finally your body saying we have to shut these sweat glands off.
00:22:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:22:32
Felicia Devine
They're like, you've asked enough times.
00:22:32
Natalie Richards
i Exactly.
00:22:35
Felicia Devine
We're answering your prayers.
Beauty and Skincare Experiments
00:22:36
Natalie Richards
you've been so and You've been putting energy there to try to get it to stop and this is your body's way of getting it to stop.
00:22:39
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. Yeah. But honestly, ever since I became a professional, like I have a job, I have a husband.
00:22:43
Natalie Richards
I don't know. I don't know.
00:22:48
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I don't care that I have sweaty hands and feet anymore.
00:22:50
Natalie Richards
Right. It's just, it's what it is.
00:22:51
Felicia Devine
I mean, it's been 32 years. I'm like, I don't, if you don't want to shake my hand because it's sweaty, you probably are my inferior. Okay.
00:23:03
Felicia Devine
So like I've like, and I, I adjust people all day and I don't really have sweaty hands anymore.
00:23:04
Natalie Richards
This is funny.
00:23:08
Felicia Devine
Whereas like in clinic, I would be like wiping my hands.
00:23:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:23:10
Natalie Richards
The nerves, the nervous sweat.
00:23:11
Felicia Devine
I would have like a towel with me.
00:23:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:23:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:23:13
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:23:13
Felicia Devine
So it's definitely gotten better with confidence.
00:23:14
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:23:16
Felicia Devine
However, the, the feet calluses so crazy.
00:23:20
Natalie Richards
That's weird.
00:23:21
Felicia Devine
It's wild. And so she was like, yeah, you have no energy in your feet. And then she moved to other foot and it was like equally. I mean, when she put her hand on my foot, I could feel how cold my foot was. And I didn't notice it before.
00:23:30
Natalie Richards
Huh.
00:23:31
Felicia Devine
Like I wasn't laying there being like, oh, I'm really cold. So it was interesting.
00:23:36
Natalie Richards
Okay, that's very interesting.
00:23:37
Felicia Devine
Then she moves up to the other hip. So the right hip now. And this is the hip I injured in labor and has always been an issue postpartum.
00:23:41
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:23:45
Felicia Devine
Like, I don't know if I like hurt my labrum.
00:23:46
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. Yeah.
00:23:48
Felicia Devine
I got, I was getting fascial work. I got it adjusted. My pelvic floor therapist has been working on it and it's been what, 20 months and it's still injured.
00:23:52
Natalie Richards
Oh, no. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:23:56
Felicia Devine
It's crazy.
00:23:57
Natalie Richards
oh no
00:23:58
Felicia Devine
So she starts getting this drop in from her guides. Okay. So she's at this hip and she's like, Really? oh Huh.
00:24:10
Felicia Devine
Okay. Hmm. Tell me more. So she's like talking to her spirit guides and I'm just laying there like, oh, I can't wait to see what she says. So she's like, all right. So this is the male side of your, your body, the right hip and the right side.
00:24:24
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:24:25
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:24:27
Felicia Devine
guides are pointing me in the direction that like, was your dad, uh, Like, did your dad leave you when you were a child? Did he abandon you? Was there a strained, absent relationship? Like, I'm picking up, like, your dad wasn't around.
00:24:41
Felicia Devine
I literally was like, she went on for, like, almost 30 seconds describing an absent father and daddy issues before I was like, I have to i have to stop you.
00:24:41
Natalie Richards
Oh!
00:24:47
Natalie Richards
Weird.
00:24:51
Felicia Devine
i was like, truth be told, I'm my dad's favorite kid, okay?
00:24:55
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:24:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:24:56
Felicia Devine
Like my dad and I are besties. We have the best relationship.
00:24:59
Natalie Richards
huh
00:25:01
Felicia Devine
He was like a coach for every sport i did We traveled all over growing up.
00:25:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Oh
00:25:05
Felicia Devine
Like he was the one that was taking me to softball tournaments because he was my coach. Like,
00:25:09
Natalie Richards
my God. Is this another abandonment post another SEP abandonment?
00:25:12
Felicia Devine
yes. No, it didn't end up Well, maybe it was a SEP abandonment. We interpreted it.
00:25:17
Natalie Richards
Because that's what came up with with my emotion code session with you.
00:25:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. And it was a male, so SEP.
00:25:21
Natalie Richards
huh.
00:25:24
Felicia Devine
She kind of, cause I was like, it my dad was not absent.
00:25:27
Natalie Richards
No, no.
00:25:28
Felicia Devine
I was like, not at all. But I used to i used to cry a lot as a kid when I would know my dad was going to work.
00:25:29
Natalie Richards
Okay. So what did you deduct?
00:25:36
Natalie Richards
Oh, you were so attached to him.
00:25:37
Felicia Devine
i I didn't want him to get injured.
00:25:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:25:39
Felicia Devine
i didn't want him to die because he was a cop.
00:25:39
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:25:41
Felicia Devine
So I inherently was like very sad around him leaving for work.
00:25:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:25:47
Felicia Devine
So she kind of picked that up as like the interpretation, but that could have just been because that was the first thing that came to my head.
00:25:52
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:25:53
Felicia Devine
I don't know. But in your work, you say like, usually the first thing that drops in is, but it still could be very much generational now into Sep, like me and Sep and me and my dad, like,
00:25:56
Natalie Richards
Usually. That's usually right. Yeah.
00:26:05
Natalie Richards
Who knows?
00:26:06
Felicia Devine
It was very interesting, but I like, I started laughing on the table because I was like, my dad?
00:26:11
Natalie Richards
is like the best, right?
00:26:12
Felicia Devine
Abandonment? Like, talk about a present father.
00:26:14
Natalie Richards
But abandonment, at least from like my emotion code stuff, I do see that, that like a child's body processes abandonment in a different way than what like an adult would, would say abandonment is.
00:26:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:26
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:26:28
Natalie Richards
So like your dad just going to work could have totally been abandonment.
00:26:28
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:26:30
Felicia Devine
Abandonment.
00:26:33
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:26:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:34
Natalie Richards
So who knows?
00:26:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right, right. And so I have always been so sensitive, obviously. Like I cried all the time growing up because I'm just so sensitive.
00:26:45
Felicia Devine
So so that's what we deduced.
00:26:45
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:26:47
Felicia Devine
But it was like so funny that she was just like, I'm getting abandoned, absent father.
00:26:49
Natalie Richards
that's funny. Your dad left you.
00:26:54
Felicia Devine
i'm like, oh my God, no. but That is literally the most present father ever. And then what else did did we get into?
00:26:57
Natalie Richards
how funny
00:27:02
Felicia Devine
I'm trying to even think yeah there was so much constriction in my body. She was like, you have inner tubes around your knees constricting them. And that's where your decision-making skills are for like work.
00:27:13
Felicia Devine
And like, you have just like all this energy.
00:27:13
Natalie Richards
Oh,
00:27:15
Felicia Devine
That's just like, she said, uh, deep waters run still. And she's like, that's why a lot of people look at you and you think you have it together because you have so much going on
00:27:23
Natalie Richards
for sure that it's yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:25
Felicia Devine
Your waters are so deep.
00:27:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:27:28
Felicia Devine
That there's no chaos. Whereas when people have a lot of chaos, it's because they don't a lot of depth to them.
00:27:30
Natalie Richards
huh yeah h
00:27:34
Felicia Devine
And I was like, oh, that's kind of reassuring that I have a lot of resilience. She just kept coming back to resilience. She's like, you're you're very resilient and that's a good thing. But you have a lot on your plate.
00:27:42
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:27:47
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:27:47
Felicia Devine
was like, girl, you're telling me.
00:27:47
Natalie Richards
Which, yeah. Yeah.
00:27:49
Felicia Devine
You're telling me.
00:27:50
Natalie Richards
You do.
00:27:51
Felicia Devine
I'm juggling it all.
00:27:51
Natalie Richards
You
00:27:52
Felicia Devine
All the plates it's been in.
00:27:54
Natalie Richards
Oh, boy.
00:27:54
Felicia Devine
And it was just, it was so crazy. So then at the end of the session, she's like collecting her rocks and her gems and her crystals.
Conspiracy Theory Party Plans
00:28:02
Felicia Devine
And she's like, okay, so like you're going to dream tonight. And it could either be like movie previews where it's just like snippets.
00:28:06
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:28:09
Felicia Devine
And you're like, oh, I think I had some dreams that I don't really remember the full plot. Or you can have like full length feature film. And I'm like, probably.
00:28:16
Natalie Richards
which is how you usually dream anyway.
00:28:18
Felicia Devine
I'm a big dreamer, okay?
00:28:19
Felicia Devine
And I have vivid dreams. So she's like, and you're going to probably feel tired and thirsty, like all the normal things you get when you do body work. So I'm like, okay. So sure enough, fall asleep.
00:28:30
Natalie Richards
oh boy.
00:28:31
Felicia Devine
have some dreams. Now I need to text her because this was crazy. And I'm like, this is scary. I had like full vivid dreams, but in one of the dreams, I got in an elevator with my mom in a tall building and we started going down and it broke and we were crashing.
00:28:49
Natalie Richards
Oh God.
00:28:50
Felicia Devine
So we' we're falling and like, we knew we were going to die. and I just kept saying like, I love you. I love you. And then we died.
00:28:58
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:28:59
Felicia Devine
And like, I always, my dreams always follow through. You know, when typically like you hear people say like, oh, I was falling in a dream and I woke up or like, oh, like something was going to happen.
00:29:07
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:29:09
Felicia Devine
Like I was in a plane accident and I woke up before we crashed.
00:29:12
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:29:13
Felicia Devine
My dreams always kill me. I always complete death.
00:29:14
Natalie Richards
wow
00:29:17
Felicia Devine
Always. And I'll get like in plane crashes or I'll have a building smash me. Like a building will fall and I'll die.
00:29:20
Natalie Richards
oh God, what does that mean?
00:29:24
Felicia Devine
What does that mean?
00:29:24
Natalie Richards
Died.
00:29:24
Felicia Devine
So in this elevator, we like fell and like died.
00:29:30
Natalie Richards
That sounds like my nicotine dreams.
00:29:30
Felicia Devine
And then, I'm not even on nicotine right now.
00:29:32
Natalie Richards
That's what happens when I have it too late at night. I'll have something that either I die or or something, I don't know, they get like really oddly morbid.
00:29:38
Felicia Devine
What does that mean? i need to text her. Yeah. So then the other part of my dream was that there was this big tsunami in like Tahiti or so taai Taiwan, tea something with a T.
00:29:53
Felicia Devine
And a lot of people died. And I'm like, I don't need to check the news today because in my head, there was a massive tragedy happening overseas. I don't know.
00:30:00
Natalie Richards
My word.
00:30:02
Felicia Devine
So then she said, you know, I just, I just got to tell you this because they just keep telling me and they just keep dropping in And I'm like, just keep telling me.
00:30:08
Natalie Richards
like, yes, please.
00:30:10
Felicia Devine
I will tell me, I'm like, tell me more.
00:30:10
Natalie Richards
Tell me everything.
00:30:13
Felicia Devine
Keep telling me.
00:30:14
Natalie Richards
the
00:30:15
Felicia Devine
She's like, yeah, my guides keep telling me that you're gifted and that your gifts are going to get more amplified over the next few weeks. And I was like, girl, I know I'm gifted. Thanks for telling me.
00:30:23
Natalie Richards
Lovely.
00:30:24
Felicia Devine
So my psychic abilities are going to turn up a little. And I'm very excited about it.
00:30:28
Natalie Richards
Ooh, I like that.
00:30:29
Felicia Devine
And I can't wait to share what that means. She said you might get drop-ins from patients of things that you don't even ask. And they're just kind of like you're getting drop-ins. She said it could look like anything.
00:30:38
Natalie Richards
h I love when that happens.
00:30:39
Felicia Devine
But I'm like, can't wait.
00:30:40
Natalie Richards
Ooh,
00:30:43
Felicia Devine
So I'm going back to see her.
00:30:43
Natalie Richards
I love this.
00:30:43
Felicia Devine
I loved it.
00:30:45
Natalie Richards
I was going to say, when are you going back?
00:30:47
Felicia Devine
and
00:30:48
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:30:48
Felicia Devine
I think I'm going to see her in like another two weeks.
00:30:49
Natalie Richards
I want to see her. i want to see her when I come and visit you.
00:30:50
Felicia Devine
I you know. Wait, when you come out. Okay.
00:30:52
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:30:53
Felicia Devine
I'll ask if she has an opening.
00:30:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that would be awesome.
00:30:57
Felicia Devine
hu And we could go together.
00:31:00
Natalie Richards
I know I was going to say, would she do a duel?
00:31:02
Felicia Devine
We could do it for the, we should do it.
00:31:04
Natalie Richards
Would she do but a duel and see like on what level we're connected?
00:31:04
Felicia Devine
We should record. Well, i asked her, I said, do you do like multiple people at a time? She's like, yeah, like I could do like couples.
00:31:11
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:31:12
Felicia Devine
I have like multiple, like, yeah, I know.
00:31:14
Natalie Richards
Wait, Felicia, we have to together.
00:31:16
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:31:17
Natalie Richards
oh
00:31:17
Felicia Devine
was so fun. So fun.
00:31:19
Natalie Richards
that would be so fun.
00:31:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So it was really cool. And she was right. She was very chatty. She talked the whole time. It was just like dumping what her spirit guides were giving her.
00:31:27
Natalie Richards
I love that. I love it.
00:31:29
Felicia Devine
i was like, I'm, I will come back whenever you will see me next.
00:31:29
Natalie Richards
I love it. I love it so much.
00:31:33
Natalie Richards
Oh my God.
00:31:34
Felicia Devine
So it was really cool.
00:31:35
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:31:35
Felicia Devine
And to take away from the whole like baby thing, I have two more babies waiting.
00:31:39
Natalie Richards
Two more. I love it.
00:31:41
Felicia Devine
So we'll see when they come in.
00:31:42
Natalie Richards
Holy cow.
00:31:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:31:43
Natalie Richards
And hopefully not all at once. Take your turns, babies.
00:31:46
Felicia Devine
Right. I know. Now I'm like, take your turns.
00:31:47
Natalie Richards
Okay. Take your turns. I'm still convinced that I actually was pregnant with twins and i and then Gene just won out. I'm confident.
00:31:59
Felicia Devine
Me too.
00:32:00
Natalie Richards
I'm confident in that. Like absolutely.
00:32:03
Felicia Devine
Me too.
00:32:04
Natalie Richards
Gene just won nice as he would.
00:32:06
Felicia Devine
I need to go look at my placenta. It's still in my freezer.
00:32:09
Natalie Richards
oh and go examine it.
00:32:10
Felicia Devine
whichever We have a placenta thawing party when you're here.
00:32:14
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. i Can we, yes, please. Can we actually do these things this time?
00:32:18
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:32:18
Natalie Richards
Let's make a list of the things we want to accomplish.
00:32:20
Felicia Devine
We to thaw my placenta. Then we had to bury it with a tree. So we to go source a fruit tree so that when we thaw it, we could bury it.
00:32:25
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:32:28
Felicia Devine
And then had to go get Reiki.
00:32:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. This just made my decision. I have to come for for two full days, and not just one full time.
00:32:32
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yes. Yes. Yeah, because we had to squeeze it all in.
00:32:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah. yeah okay
00:32:39
Felicia Devine
Okay, so get we'll trade off updates because that was a long update. You give me your update.
00:32:43
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh, I love it. I don't even know what I have to update at this point.
00:32:46
Felicia Devine
You had a nail update.
00:32:47
Natalie Richards
Oh, a nail update. It did. Okay. So last episode I mentioned, I can't really use any like clean gel products because they just don't work.
00:32:56
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:32:57
Natalie Richards
And I said, I can use the manicurist brand because it's like really clean.
00:33:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Is that gel?
00:33:02
Natalie Richards
They call it gel.
00:33:04
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:33:04
Natalie Richards
They call it gel.
00:33:06
Felicia Devine
Is it l is a cured?
00:33:06
Natalie Richards
The texture, it cures by a light and it just, it doesn't quite do what you want it to do. if that makes sense.
00:33:13
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:33:13
Natalie Richards
Like it just, it takes forever to actually cure.
00:33:14
Felicia Devine
It's not like thick enough?
00:33:18
Natalie Richards
Like it's not like the 30 to 60 seconds, like, like anything else would be.
00:33:18
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:33:22
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:33:23
Natalie Richards
takes like two minutes per coat to actually cure. So it takes forever, but it worked and it was fine and it worked okay.
00:33:29
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:33:32
Natalie Richards
But it would like, within a few days, it would actually start to like peel off really easily.
00:33:36
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:33:38
Natalie Richards
So then they just came out with a new top coat and I ordered it and tried it and it's superb. It's so good.
00:33:45
Felicia Devine
What?
00:33:46
Natalie Richards
And it didn't, as far as I can tell, it's been like four days. I have not had any bit of a reaction.
00:33:52
Felicia Devine
No reaction.
00:33:55
Felicia Devine
You're so bold for continuing to try. Mm-hmm.
00:33:57
Natalie Richards
i'm I'm psychotic for continuing to try is what it is.
00:34:00
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:00
Natalie Richards
I just,
00:34:01
Felicia Devine
Wow. What's different about this top coat? Is it like thicker? Like, does it give it more of a gel feeling?
00:34:04
Natalie Richards
it's thicker. It gives it, yep, it gives it like a really shiny, really like durable, durable top.
00:34:07
Felicia Devine
Oh. Mm-hmm. Soft. Yeah.
00:34:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:13
Felicia Devine
I hate when my nail texture is bad.
00:34:13
Natalie Richards
Whereas before the top coat was just like horrible. Like it just was not satisfying.
00:34:17
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:34:19
Natalie Richards
So it was like, I might as well just use regular nail polish.
00:34:19
Felicia Devine
Ew.
00:34:21
Natalie Richards
But now I feel like that's the winner.
00:34:21
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:23
Natalie Richards
So manicurist colors with their new extreme top coat or whatever.
00:34:27
Felicia Devine
Top coat. Okay.
00:34:30
Natalie Richards
And it worked great.
00:34:30
Felicia Devine
All right.
00:34:31
Natalie Richards
It worked great.
00:34:31
Felicia Devine
I like, I want to cover them because they're ugly, but I've told myself they need to be naked, you know?
00:34:37
Natalie Richards
They do.
00:34:38
Felicia Devine
And so I just,
00:34:38
Natalie Richards
They do. And I go like in between. I'll like wear a color for a couple weeks and then I'll take it off for a week and just breathe.
00:34:42
Felicia Devine
the
00:34:45
Felicia Devine
and like, let it breathe.
00:34:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:47
Felicia Devine
I know I need, they just need to breathe and I need to sit with that.
00:34:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:50
Felicia Devine
But I look at my nails and I'm just like, like jump scare.
00:34:52
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:34:52
Felicia Devine
It's like walking around with just your panties on.
00:34:54
Natalie Richards
Well, you're so used to having like long painted done nails.
00:34:57
Felicia Devine
long claws. Like i I used to work with long, long nails and people would be like, how do you do that?
00:35:03
Natalie Richards
law
00:35:07
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I just, I love it.
00:35:08
Natalie Richards
You just figure it out. I know.
00:35:09
Felicia Devine
I loved my nails.
00:35:10
Natalie Richards
I know this is so different for you.
00:35:12
Felicia Devine
Now I can't open anything.
00:35:14
Natalie Richards
Oh, because it hurts.
00:35:14
Felicia Devine
I had to have Dan open something for me last night and he's like, are you serious? And I was like, I literally have like, i have like nubs as fingers. I don't know how to use them anymore.
00:35:20
Natalie Richards
It's
00:35:21
Felicia Devine
It's like someone took my tools away. Like in income incompetent. Oh, i have a question for you.
00:35:26
Natalie Richards
Gosh, darn it. Yeah. Yes.
00:35:28
Felicia Devine
I impulse bought this. Have you heard of MediCube?
00:35:33
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:35:33
Felicia Devine
It's like Korean skincare.
00:35:35
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:35:35
Felicia Devine
What are your thoughts? Because I bought 40 products from them in a set.
00:35:39
Natalie Richards
My word. i don't know. i think in general, the Korean standards are pretty good.
00:35:45
Felicia Devine
Pretty good. Okay.
00:35:46
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Like they're pretty good. Mm-hmm.
00:35:47
Felicia Devine
I know so a good chunk of them. You can't use pregnant because there's some like salicylic acid kind of stuff in them. However, I'm not pregnant. So I started using them last night.
00:35:55
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:35:57
Felicia Devine
I mean, Natalie, I got this. I never go on TikTok anymore. i just don't know how to use it.
00:36:00
Natalie Richards
That's so funny.
00:36:03
Felicia Devine
And I've never purchased anything off TikTok shop.
00:36:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:36:05
Felicia Devine
But someone had posted this like set of MediCube stuff that was on like 90% sale.
00:36:11
Natalie Richards
Crazy sale.
00:36:13
Felicia Devine
I don't even know.
00:36:13
Natalie Richards
What?
00:36:13
Felicia Devine
I so i got like I'm not exaggerating. I got like 14 products for like $99 and they're full size.
00:36:20
Natalie Richards
My goodness. Wow.
00:36:23
Felicia Devine
And I was like, okay, sold. So I ordered it and it came in yesterday and I used, I used them last night.
00:36:24
Natalie Richards
You'll have to report back.
00:36:29
Felicia Devine
Natalie, I woke up looking, Dan goes, you look like a Barbie doll.
00:36:35
Natalie Richards
What?
00:36:36
Felicia Devine
I was, i was glazed and taut.
00:36:36
Natalie Richards
Like a glazed face? Like...
00:36:41
Felicia Devine
He's like, you look like a bar. He was like, it's kind of scary. I was like, what? I don't know what happened last night, but I literally was marinating.
00:36:50
Natalie Richards
Wait,
00:36:53
Felicia Devine
And it was so awesome. I mean, yeah like, I'm like kind of into it.
00:36:55
Natalie Richards
that's so funny. What are they? Like, what are the actives in it?
00:36:59
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:36:59
Natalie Richards
Like, what's what are the...
00:37:00
Felicia Devine
So the first one, well, when you order your kit, there's two options. The kit either comes with a mild exfoliant or extreme exfoliant.
00:37:07
Natalie Richards
okay
00:37:07
Felicia Devine
And I'm my dad's daughter. If it doesn't burn, it's not working.
00:37:10
Natalie Richards
extreme.
00:37:11
Felicia Devine
So they're like,
00:37:12
Natalie Richards
Is it one of those that like balls up your dead skin and like, like rubs, like it rubs off?
00:37:16
Felicia Devine
it didn't really ball anything up. No, it just like when it goes on, it feels like you're rubbing needles on your face, but nothing's like pulling off your skin.
00:37:23
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:37:24
Felicia Devine
It just feels like you're rubbing glass all around your face. It's like painful.
00:37:28
Natalie Richards
Oh, it's like, like little beads.
00:37:31
Felicia Devine
No, no, it's a chemical.
00:37:32
Natalie Richards
Oh, it's a chemical.
00:37:34
Felicia Devine
It literally feels like you're rubbing glass into your skin in your and like it hurt.
00:37:35
Natalie Richards
Oh, what?
00:37:40
Felicia Devine
And I was like, okay, keep going.
00:37:41
Natalie Richards
Oh, I don't know.
00:37:42
Felicia Devine
So you rub glass shards, but there's no texture to it. It's complete, it's a serum. Okay, so now you have glass hole.
00:37:49
Natalie Richards
And it stays on.
00:37:51
Felicia Devine
It stays on. So what it does is it makes, it's it's basically like microneedling.
00:37:53
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:37:55
Felicia Devine
It's liquid microneedling.
00:37:57
Natalie Richards
Wait, this makes me so nervous, but I get I get it
00:37:57
Felicia Devine
It creates... my God. I was so into it. I'm like, yes, it hurts.
00:38:01
Natalie Richards
i get it
00:38:02
Felicia Devine
It works. So I'm rubbing this. I'm calling it glass shards, but it's, that's not what it is. And it's, it's making injury.
00:38:13
Felicia Devine
It's injuring my skin, right? That's what you want. You want injury.
00:38:16
Natalie Richards
Yes. I was using a bee venom like serum for that same reason.
00:38:20
Felicia Devine
Oh, I would go into anaphylactic shock.
00:38:21
Natalie Richards
i know you would, but for the same reason where it like creates micro inflammation that then creates collagen.
00:38:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Injuries.
00:38:28
Natalie Richards
I get it.
00:38:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:28
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:38:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:28
Natalie Richards
Okay. Continue.
00:38:29
Felicia Devine
So you injure your skin. Okay.
00:38:31
Felicia Devine
Then you apply a pink serum. And I'm not really sure what the ingredients are, but I want to say there's something about salmon sperm or something.
00:38:40
Natalie Richards
Salmon sperm for sure.
00:38:41
Felicia Devine
Is that possible yet?
00:38:41
Natalie Richards
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
00:38:42
Felicia Devine
Maybe it's not MediCube. I don't know. But anyway, you you put this like pink serum all over your face. But when you're rubbing it in, it feels like glass shards because you still have glass shards under there. Right. So you're like continually glass sharding your face.
00:38:56
Felicia Devine
So, so now I have two layers of glass on my face and then I put this like pink jelly all over and it's so moisturizing.
00:38:57
Natalie Richards
This is so funny. Okay.
00:39:04
Felicia Devine
It literally felt like I was rubbing like honey on my face, not sticky, just really wet.
00:39:09
Natalie Richards
This is so funny.
00:39:10
Felicia Devine
Like my face was so wet.
00:39:14
Felicia Devine
So my my face is sopping wet, glistening.
00:39:15
Natalie Richards
but
00:39:17
Felicia Devine
And then I'm like, oh, why not just grab the mask, the overnight mask? i was like, why start with one thing when I could literally put the whole box of chemicals on my face at once when I'm sure they're probably like micro test on the back of your hand, wait 24 wait.
00:39:32
Natalie Richards
Yes. Test on the, on your arm to make sure.
00:39:37
Felicia Devine
No, I'm going all in. So, so then I take this overnight mask and it, it didn't really give instructions on how much to use, but I just kind of like put it on like a moisturizer.
00:39:46
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:39:47
Felicia Devine
And it's one of those masks that like turns into a sheet mask when it dries. It's like, it's like it hardens, but it it's pliable.
00:39:52
Natalie Richards
Okay. It hardens. Uh-huh.
00:39:56
Felicia Devine
So like you can talk, it's not cracking.
00:39:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And then you peel it off.
00:40:00
Felicia Devine
Then you peel it off in the morning. So when I woke up, I looked like a plastic Barbie doll.
00:40:02
Natalie Richards
Okay. Oh, so you literally did look like plastic.
00:40:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And I was like, I was like looking in the mirror i was like reflective, shiny.
00:40:06
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:40:12
Natalie Richards
That's amazing.
00:40:22
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
00:40:24
Felicia Devine
Like it literally was like, I loved it.
00:40:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:40:27
Felicia Devine
And you probably shouldn't use it every night, but I'm like, I'm going to buy seven more bottles.
00:40:30
Natalie Richards
Too bad. Yeah. Okay.
00:40:32
Felicia Devine
and I had the most glowy, perfect neutral skin. Like I didn't have any redness.
00:40:39
Natalie Richards
Oh my word.
00:40:39
Felicia Devine
I'm sold. I can't get pregnant now because I need to use MediCube.
00:40:43
Natalie Richards
Right. i don't know enough about it to give you any, to give you any feedback or any, I have no notes.
00:40:47
Felicia Devine
Don't look, don't look. I don't want to know. i don't want know. What was, what sharp object was I rubbing in my face?
00:40:53
Natalie Richards
I have no notes. I have no idea.
00:40:57
Felicia Devine
I don't need to know. Why it hurts so bad doesn't bother me.
00:41:01
Natalie Richards
Oh my God. I love that.
00:41:03
Felicia Devine
And then it came with like sheet masks.
00:41:03
Natalie Richards
That was great.
00:41:05
Felicia Devine
It came with cleansers. It came with other lotions, other potion. I mean, it was like a huge package.
00:41:13
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:41:14
Felicia Devine
I think I spent $99.
00:41:16
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:41:16
Felicia Devine
So I think you should get it.
00:41:18
Natalie Richards
I'm not sure. it i actually, I'm so happy with the things I use right now that I'm good.
00:41:26
Felicia Devine
No, i'm I'm going from using no skincare. Like I literally use lard as like my daily moisture or my nighttime moisturizer.
00:41:32
Natalie Richards
That's true. You're going from nothing to, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:35
Felicia Devine
And then I use like the honey halo cream before I put makeup on.
00:41:38
Natalie Richards
yeah yeah
00:41:40
Felicia Devine
to So I use two products and now I use 14.
00:41:43
Natalie Richards
Wow. No, I'm like locked and loaded on my on my product situation.
00:41:46
Felicia Devine
Okay. Well, when it doesn't work anymore and you need to like open up the pores.
00:41:49
Natalie Richards
I'll tell you, I'll let you know.
00:41:52
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Or when you're here, you can, you can try it.
00:41:53
Natalie Richards
I'll let you know. Okay.
00:41:55
Felicia Devine
They say like, if you don't exfoliate often or you're new to exfoliating to get the mild one, are you an exfoliator?
00:42:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah. No, i own I only allow myself to do maybe once a week.
00:42:07
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:42:08
Natalie Richards
Like I probably would do more, but like I, to preserve my skin barrier, i choose to not, to not do it at more than like once a week.
00:42:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Especially in the winter.
00:42:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:17
Natalie Richards
Whereas it' like once a week, I feel like I need it
00:42:20
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:42:20
Natalie Richards
But then more than that, it would be too much. And my skin's sensitive anyway. So I just don't, you know, I'm more concerned about replenishing the moisture and the nutrients and all of
00:42:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Don't try the extreme one.
00:42:32
Felicia Devine
Okay. Then you need the overnight mask. It locks. I mean, literally nothing was escaping.
00:42:36
Natalie Richards
Oh, No, i do like that idea.
00:42:40
Felicia Devine
It was full security on my face.
00:42:41
Natalie Richards
You can put everything under it and then you put that on top and then it is like locked and loaded.
00:42:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:46
Felicia Devine
It was crazy.
00:42:46
Natalie Richards
i love that.
00:42:46
Felicia Devine
So it said like, wait 15 minutes before falling asleep because you want it to dry and you don't want your hair in it. So I just like, yeah.
00:42:53
Natalie Richards
that's Okay. So that's my problem lately is I'm like, I wake up and my hair is full of my skincare because I'm sleeping.
00:42:56
Felicia Devine
oh
00:43:00
Felicia Devine
is is it
00:43:02
Felicia Devine
Not this.
00:43:02
Natalie Richards
like
00:43:03
Natalie Richards
and i need So I've been sleeping with my hair like loosely up
00:43:07
Felicia Devine
A pineapple.
00:43:08
Natalie Richards
Yeah, because I slather so much stuff on my face.
00:43:08
Felicia Devine
You need, wait, you need a silk. You need a silk cap.
00:43:13
Natalie Richards
You're right. I do, actually.
00:43:15
Felicia Devine
I have one of those.
00:43:15
Natalie Richards
That's my next.
00:43:17
Felicia Devine
Next step.
00:43:17
Natalie Richards
yeah I do, actually. I need to go do that.
00:43:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So, but then I think you should get this overnight thing.
00:43:23
Natalie Richards
Maybe.
00:43:23
Felicia Devine
It was incredible.
00:43:24
Natalie Richards
and it just locks in all of my.
00:43:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I don't think it's a, I think it's a weekend only kind of thing because this morning I spent way too much time picking and peeling and then like even, yeah.
00:43:27
Natalie Richards
yeah maybe. Yeah. the To try to peel it off. Oh my gosh, Gene would love to peel it. He's a picker.
00:43:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:38
Natalie Richards
He is a sticker peeler.
00:43:38
Felicia Devine
Oh, so have you ever put like Elmer's glue on his hand?
00:43:41
Natalie Richards
Oh, I should because he could sit there and peel his hand for his whole day.
00:43:43
Felicia Devine
And then peel it off. Kids used to do that in elementary school.
00:43:46
Natalie Richards
That would be amazing. He sits at my office and he will peel crayons for an hour and a half.
00:43:47
Felicia Devine
So, yeah.
00:43:51
Natalie Richards
Like I'm not even kidding. He sits there and just peels crayons.
00:43:53
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:43:55
Natalie Richards
I took him to dinner with me the other night.
00:43:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:56
Natalie Richards
We had a little date and he as he's eating his adult portion salmon off of the adult menu, he's sitting there peeling the crayons
00:43:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:07
Felicia Devine
Oh, my gosh.
00:44:10
Natalie Richards
at the table. And we sat there, we had a marvelous dinner.
00:44:11
Felicia Devine
Well, that's so cute.
00:44:13
Natalie Richards
We sat there for an hour and a half.
00:44:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:15
Natalie Richards
It was amazing.
00:44:15
Felicia Devine
I love it.
00:44:16
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:44:16
Felicia Devine
I love it. So next time you go to Marshall's, let him take all the stickers off all the products you get.
00:44:21
Natalie Richards
all the No kidding.
00:44:21
Felicia Devine
Those stickers are no joke.
00:44:22
Natalie Richards
Those those stickers are so bad. Mm-hmm.
00:44:24
Felicia Devine
Marshall's needs to invest in a cheaper glue. Like I'll look at a product and if it's sticker is visible, I'm like, not for me. Like, I don't want to spend the next seven business days trying to get the sticker off.
00:44:34
Natalie Richards
You're right. You're right. You're right.
00:44:39
Felicia Devine
Like literally now that I have no nails either.
00:44:41
Natalie Richards
So bad. Yeah, you can't.
00:44:43
Felicia Devine
goodbye
00:44:43
Natalie Richards
Oh, no. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
00:44:46
Felicia Devine
I can't. And I'm like, I'm against using Gloobiegon. Have you ever heard of Gloobie?
00:44:51
Natalie Richards
Oh, you can just use olive oil. You just rub a little oil on it.
00:44:53
Felicia Devine
Oh, I also have heard lemon essential oil.
00:44:55
Natalie Richards
Goo gone, right?
00:44:56
Felicia Devine
Goo gone. Is that what it is?
00:44:57
Natalie Richards
o
00:44:58
Felicia Devine
What did I call it?
00:45:00
Natalie Richards
Glue be gone.
00:45:01
Felicia Devine
That's not it. New product alert.
00:45:04
Natalie Richards
I knew what you were talking about.
00:45:06
Felicia Devine
Gloobiegon. That sounds like a joke.
00:45:08
Natalie Richards
Glue be gone. We're just going to put olive oil in a bottle and rebrand it.
00:45:11
Felicia Devine
yeah what's the What's the real one called?
00:45:14
Natalie Richards
Goo gone.
00:45:15
Felicia Devine
Google.
00:45:15
Natalie Richards
Isn't it?
00:45:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. What was I thinking?
00:45:19
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:45:19
Felicia Devine
Well, oh my gosh.
00:45:22
Felicia Devine
oh
00:45:22
Natalie Richards
That is funny.
00:45:24
Felicia Devine
we're having Dan's conspiracy birthday party tonight.
00:45:26
Natalie Richards
Yes. Tell me, okay, who's coming?
00:45:28
Felicia Devine
Okay. So just close family because we're present.
00:45:31
Natalie Richards
Okay. So how many different, how many different conspiracies are going to be presented?
00:45:36
Felicia Devine
So it's two, four, six. It's eight adult presentations.
00:45:41
Natalie Richards
Okay. If you guys missed when we talked about this before, with a conspiracy theory party essentially you invite people who are interesting and i mean yeah,
00:45:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:51
Felicia Devine
okay Yes. It's a close knit circle. You can't just invite anyone.
00:45:56
Natalie Richards
no, no. It has to be people that are vetted and create a presentation, each person or each couple.
00:45:59
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:46:05
Felicia Devine
No, each person.
00:46:06
Natalie Richards
Each person creates a presentation to present on a conspiracy and you have to convince the rest of the crew that your conspiracy is true.
00:46:14
Felicia Devine
The audience that it's true.
00:46:16
Natalie Richards
And you have to dress like your conspiracy.
00:46:19
Felicia Devine
Oh, yes. It's a costume party.
00:46:20
Natalie Richards
Yes. So Felicia is doing this for her husband's birthday.
00:46:26
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:46:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:46:26
Felicia Devine
Yes. My husband's birthday is fully surrounding conspiracy. And it's going to be so funny.
00:46:30
Natalie Richards
I want to be there so bad.
00:46:34
Felicia Devine
And I'm really bummed out. And so is Dan. His younger brother and his fiance were supposed to be here and they can't make it. But they're like so good at this stuff.
00:46:45
Felicia Devine
And James is like,
00:46:46
Natalie Richards
Dang.
00:46:47
Felicia Devine
easily the most compelling argument man I've ever met.
00:46:50
Natalie Richards
Would sell it. huh
00:46:51
Felicia Devine
He can argue about anything and not in a mean way. Like he's not condescending.
00:46:55
Natalie Richards
I want to know what conspiracy he was going to he was going to present on.
00:46:55
Felicia Devine
He's not. Yeah, I know. And so I think what we're going to end up doing, Natalie, is maybe doing this annually. And so next year you should come.
00:47:06
Natalie Richards
Okay. I'm there.
00:47:07
Felicia Devine
and you can just put on your calendar now that mid February we're having the second annual conspiracy theory party.
00:47:10
Natalie Richards
Beautiful. Yeah. Okay.
00:47:13
Felicia Devine
So I finished my presentation last night and it's like, it's gorgeous. I have like video or I have photographic evidence I'm presenting.
00:47:25
Felicia Devine
I have, authors I'm quoting, like
00:47:29
Natalie Richards
You already announced what you were going to do.
00:47:30
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes. I'm doing that the moon landing was a staged Hollywood production.
00:47:35
Natalie Richards
Falsified. Yeah.
00:47:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:37
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:47:37
Felicia Devine
And so I'm dressing in a full astronaut suit and an astronaut helmet.
00:47:45
Felicia Devine
And Dan is presenting that the Egyptian pyramids are power plants. yeah
00:47:50
Natalie Richards
Truth.
00:47:51
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:47:51
Natalie Richards
I mean, he doesn't even have to convince me.
00:47:53
Felicia Devine
I know. Right. Yeah.
00:47:55
Natalie Richards
there There's some crazy stuff happening under those pyramids. Okay.
00:47:59
Felicia Devine
Now, i need I need to ask you how should I, should I send a ballot around or should I have people have like anonymous voting of like, yes, I believe it, no?
00:47:59
Natalie Richards
Amazing. Amazing.
00:48:06
Natalie Richards
Oh, to vote. You should do like a scale of one to 10, how believable.
00:48:11
Felicia Devine
And then, okay, and then maybe put it in a basket and then,
00:48:15
Natalie Richards
And then you like compile it all, add them all together and like, yeah.
00:48:18
Felicia Devine
Okay. And then we present like, okay, like this was proven that the conspiracy is a hundred percent, a hundred percent believable. Okay. Cause we need like a, how to wrap it together.
00:48:29
Natalie Richards
So then if it's like 10 people, you have a score out 100, that would be like how how believable.
00:48:31
Felicia Devine
hu Yeah.
00:48:35
Felicia Devine
Believable.
00:48:35
Natalie Richards
And that's like on a scale of one to 10, it would be believability.
00:48:37
Felicia Devine
Yes. Okay. Okay. I love it. So yeah, Dan's doing pyramid energy source. My brother's doing chemtrails, which like is, I mean,
00:48:47
Natalie Richards
You can dive deeply into that.
00:48:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And like, it's so believable. Like I'm really excited.
00:48:51
Natalie Richards
And there's a lot to it. That's like that you have the weather, you have all of that like manipulation.
00:48:53
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:55
Felicia Devine
Right. Yes.
00:48:57
Natalie Richards
Oh boy.
00:48:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:58
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:48:59
Felicia Devine
Curious to see what his outfit is. Cause he's making it, he said.
00:49:02
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:49:02
Felicia Devine
So interested to see what he's doing there.
00:49:05
Natalie Richards
I would do like a snowflake or something like a water droplet.
00:49:07
Felicia Devine
Right. Like a a barometer.
00:49:12
Felicia Devine
Dan is dressing, he's using a, he's created a cardboard pyramid that he's wearing as a hat.
00:49:18
Natalie Richards
Okay. Just on his head. Perfect.
00:49:20
Felicia Devine
And then he's dressing himself as a mummy.
00:49:25
Natalie Richards
There's no other.
00:49:26
Felicia Devine
is
00:49:26
Natalie Richards
There's no other thing.
00:49:26
Felicia Devine
I know. My in-laws potentially are doing the same one together. i don't know. But I think they're doing, and I'm going to say this wrong because it's not, this is the only name stuck in my, Amelia Earnhardt.
00:49:33
Natalie Richards
fine.
00:49:39
Felicia Devine
Earnhardt's a race car driver.
00:49:40
Natalie Richards
Amelia Earhart.
00:49:41
Felicia Devine
Earhart. I keep wanting to call her Earnhardt.
00:49:43
Natalie Richards
The airplane crash.
00:49:44
Felicia Devine
The plane crash.
00:49:44
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:49:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:46
Natalie Richards
okay
00:49:46
Felicia Devine
So but my mother-in-law was like, you have to do a computer presentation? And I was like, yeah. She's like, I think we might just do a flip board.
00:49:54
Natalie Richards
Perfect. Oh my God.
00:49:55
Felicia Devine
And I was like, would actually be even funnier. Please do a flip board. So I'm hoping and praying they walk in with a full-size teacher flip board.
00:50:02
Natalie Richards
A poster board, like one of those, those like giant.
00:50:04
Felicia Devine
Like a giant sticky notepad.
00:50:07
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:50:07
Felicia Devine
Like I'm so hopeful that they walk in like that.
00:50:09
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:50:11
Felicia Devine
Amanda's doing Avril Lavigne.
00:50:13
Natalie Richards
I'm unfamiliar about the Avril Lavigne conspiracy. What is it?
00:50:18
Felicia Devine
People say she died like years ago and that the Avril Lavigne that's current is like a stand-in.
00:50:24
Natalie Richards
Really?
00:50:25
Felicia Devine
Like there's a theory that like Avril Lavigne as we know her today is falsified Avril Lavigne.
00:50:30
Natalie Richards
oh I am unfamiliar. Okay.
00:50:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So I'll have to learn about this and see if I believe it.
00:50:32
Natalie Richards
Wow. Wow.
00:50:35
Felicia Devine
I don't know. I need the facts.
00:50:37
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:50:38
Felicia Devine
Dan's cousin Lisa is doing Helen Keller.
00:50:42
Natalie Richards
What?
00:50:44
Felicia Devine
Apparently very heated.
00:50:46
Natalie Richards
What?
00:50:47
Felicia Devine
Apparently very polarizing.
00:50:50
Natalie Richards
Again, very unfamiliar that she wasn't, that she, what, what's the conspiracy?
00:50:50
Felicia Devine
Can't wait to hear. Also, what's the costume?
00:50:55
Natalie Richards
That she wasn't actually deaf, and mute, right?
00:50:55
Felicia Devine
I don't know. Blind, deaf, and mute? I don't know.
00:51:00
Natalie Richards
Interesting.
00:51:01
Felicia Devine
I'll have to find out. I need my facts.
00:51:02
Natalie Richards
Oh, I cannot wait.
00:51:04
Felicia Devine
I don't know what her husband, AJ, is doing.
00:51:06
Natalie Richards
Somebody has to do, Epstein is still alive, right?
00:51:10
Felicia Devine
Oh, that's a good one. see this is why we need a second party and more people. But eight people are presenting.
00:51:14
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:51:16
Felicia Devine
How long is this going to take? I told everyone four to five slides.
00:51:18
Natalie Richards
I don't know. Yeah.
00:51:20
Felicia Devine
To make it so that like we're not presenting.
00:51:21
Natalie Richards
It's going to be ten a 10-minute presentation, each person.
00:51:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. So we're not presenting forever.
00:51:24
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:51:25
Felicia Devine
So, but yeah, I'm like so excited.
00:51:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:51:28
Felicia Devine
We ordered like 20 sushi rolls and like fried rice and we're just going to eat sushi and present conspiracies.
00:51:28
Natalie Richards
Ooh.
00:51:33
Natalie Richards
Love it.
00:51:34
Felicia Devine
And then do you watch ancient aliens?
00:51:35
Natalie Richards
Oh, my gosh. No.
00:51:39
Felicia Devine
Okay. Ancient aliens is like a really popular show on, I don't even know. The Geography Channel? or ge What's that?
00:51:47
Natalie Richards
Sure. History Channel or National Geographic.
00:51:47
Felicia Devine
National Geographic? History Channel.
00:51:49
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:50
Felicia Devine
It's like seasons deep. And they just present on like conspiracies of like aliens and like ancient ruins.
00:51:54
Natalie Richards
Wow.
00:51:57
Natalie Richards
Oh, I'm going to start watching it.
00:51:57
Felicia Devine
And like Dan's obsessed.
00:51:59
Natalie Richards
It's got to be on.
00:51:59
Felicia Devine
we love it.
00:52:00
Natalie Richards
Is that Disney Plus? is Does History Channel go on Disney Plus?
00:52:03
Felicia Devine
Probably. I mean, you could – I think it's on YouTube too.
00:52:03
Natalie Richards
I feel like it does.
00:52:06
Felicia Devine
Like you could literally – it's so – there's so many episodes.
00:52:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:52:10
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:52:10
Felicia Devine
That's like sometimes if we can't fall asleep, Dan's like, I'm just going to turn on ancient and aliens.
00:52:13
Natalie Richards
Oh, my God.
00:52:15
Felicia Devine
Anyway, there's a popular phrase that they use in ancient aliens talking about conspiracies. And they say, is it not possible? Is it not possible?
00:52:24
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:52:25
Felicia Devine
So i decorated a cookie cake that says, is it not possible?
00:52:25
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:52:29
Natalie Richards
Lovely.
00:52:30
Felicia Devine
And I said, Dan, probably. So that's his cookie cake for tonight. And i was going to decorate, but like Dan's just like not a decoration guy. Like he doesn't like a balloon.
00:52:41
Felicia Devine
God, I do a balloon art.
00:52:42
Natalie Richards
So why put, why put the effort?
00:52:43
Felicia Devine
He would literally, you would lose it. Yeah. So I'm just, I'm going to avoid decorations.
00:52:45
Natalie Richards
No.
00:52:47
Felicia Devine
We're going to do sushi, a cookie cake and conspiracy presentations.
00:52:48
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:52:52
Natalie Richards
Love it. I hope you film it. Can you film it
00:52:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I'm going to. Yeah. Dan was like, I don't know.
00:52:56
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:52:57
Felicia Devine
Like, is this like too vulnerable to like share? I was like, no, it's literally for the fun.
00:53:00
Natalie Richards
No. It's so fun.
00:53:02
Felicia Devine
Like, I don't think anyone's going to think we're like, I don't know.
00:53:05
Natalie Richards
no it's so fun to dive into something silly like that and be like,
00:53:07
Felicia Devine
Like, yeah. Like, I don't think people are going to be like oh they're flat earthers. Like, it's simply just a theme and we're just being silly goofy about it.
00:53:12
Natalie Richards
No. But is somebody presenting on that?
00:53:15
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah. Well, part of my conspiracy comes from the flat earthers because there's the Van Allen belts surrounding earth, which are belts of radiation.
00:53:21
Natalie Richards
That's true.
00:53:29
Felicia Devine
And they claim that if you were to send astronauts through the radiation belts, that they would like melt.
00:53:36
Natalie Richards
Oh. So your conspiracy is basically saying that nobody has ever been to space?
00:53:42
Felicia Devine
No one has ever been as far as the moon.
00:53:43
Natalie Richards
As far as the moon.
00:53:44
Felicia Devine
Like, I think they've orbited around Earth, but I don't think they've made it across these Van Allen belts.
00:53:45
Natalie Richards
Oh, I see.
00:53:49
Natalie Richards
I see what you're saying. Okay.
00:53:51
Felicia Devine
Now, I'm going to tell you, the counterargument is pretty accurate in saying, like, they've covered the spaceship and, like, yeah EMF blocking, like, radiation blocking.
00:53:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Where you can.
00:53:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah, sure. Okay. Sure. Okay.
00:54:00
Felicia Devine
But, like, let's say that they didn't do that.
00:54:03
Felicia Devine
And then they say, like, all the footage on their cameras would have melted coming back. Even though they, and then they are that there's so many arguments, Natalie. There's so many arguments.
00:54:14
Felicia Devine
But part of it is that these Van Allen radiation belts would have just melted our astronauts.
00:54:19
Natalie Richards
Well, the timing of it was all very suspicious because before the Soviets do, right?
00:54:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah, because Kennedy said we had to make it to the moon in this decade. Yeah. Uh-huh.
00:54:31
Natalie Richards
Because it was a whole, Yeah.
00:54:33
Felicia Devine
So he said we had to make it to the moon in and the next 10 years within this decade.
00:54:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:54:37
Felicia Devine
Okay. He said that in 1961.
00:54:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:54:39
Felicia Devine
Okay. 1969.5, right?
00:54:39
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:54:42
Felicia Devine
It was like June or July of 1969. We made it to the moon.
00:54:48
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry. We we beat the buzzer by six months.
00:54:49
Natalie Richards
hu
00:54:51
Felicia Devine
What? You're trying to tell me that we so beat the buzzer by a half of a year and you had 10 years to do it?
00:54:58
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:54:58
Felicia Devine
i don't know. I don't know, America.
00:54:59
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:55:01
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
00:55:01
Natalie Richards
where what do the What's the thought on like where they actually stepped foot?
00:55:08
Felicia Devine
So they think it was actually like a studio production. so I don't know because another compelling argument.
00:55:13
Natalie Richards
Okay. Like an actual movie.
00:55:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Another compelling argument is that the space shuttle portion that they like landed on the moon with like the I forget what it's called.
00:55:20
Natalie Richards
wow
00:55:24
Felicia Devine
Something the rover, whatever they landed on the moon with left no marks in the moon surface, the moon dust. OK, no footprint of the actual landing.
00:55:36
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:55:36
Felicia Devine
That weighed 17 tons.
00:55:39
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:55:39
Felicia Devine
but we have footprints of little baby astronauts.
00:55:43
Natalie Richards
Hmm.
00:55:44
Felicia Devine
And also there's no moisture on the moon, okay?
00:55:45
Natalie Richards
okay
00:55:46
Felicia Devine
And in order to have a left footprint, you need moisture in soil.
00:55:50
Natalie Richards
Okay. okay Okay.
00:55:52
Felicia Devine
Okay, I'm like sold.
00:55:53
Natalie Richards
Okay. Done.
00:55:55
Felicia Devine
Hello, 17 tons didn't leave a mark and you were telling me 180 pound astronaut was leaving fully formed ridges in a footprint?
00:55:56
Natalie Richards
Convinced.
00:56:06
Felicia Devine
I'm sold. We didn't land on the moon.
00:56:08
Natalie Richards
Very interesting.
00:56:10
Felicia Devine
The book I quoted, it was 0.00017% chance that we'd successfully land on the moon as humans.
00:56:19
Felicia Devine
I'm like, and you're telling me we did it with six months to go with the ratio of being 0.00017% chance? no
00:56:29
Natalie Richards
No. oh man. i love it.
00:56:32
Felicia Devine
it' not possible is it not possible
00:56:33
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:56:36
Felicia Devine
We didn't do it. So that's my argument. Do you think, what's what's your, what's your grade?
00:56:39
Natalie Richards
is so oh funny.
00:56:40
Felicia Devine
What do you think?
00:56:41
Natalie Richards
I give that a not not a believability nine for sure.
00:56:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Nine. A hundred percent.
00:56:46
Natalie Richards
For sure.
00:56:47
Felicia Devine
Natalie, there's also photographs of them like doing their moon things and the rocks in the shot have like a C on them. Like as if they were labeled props, like handwritten, like letters on the props.
00:56:55
Natalie Richards
No.
00:57:00
Natalie Richards
Okay. Yeah. I gotcha. m
00:57:05
Felicia Devine
There was a lady, and I didn't include this in my argument because it's only one lady. She claims that the... What's it called? The Coke can.
00:57:15
Felicia Devine
There was a Coke can rolling across the bottom of the screen on the live... On the live footage.
00:57:20
Natalie Richards
I have heard that before. have heard that before.
00:57:22
Felicia Devine
Yes. I didn't have any footage of it, so I couldn't like include it, but...
00:57:26
Natalie Richards
Do they even have the foot? Like, does it exist? Can you find footage currently of the moon landing or have they taken it away?
00:57:31
Felicia Devine
I don't know, because they didn't have like...
00:57:33
Natalie Richards
Like.
00:57:34
Felicia Devine
They didn't have like, not TiVo. What's it called when you record something on your TV? Remember?
00:57:39
Natalie Richards
That's what it would at TiVo. Like when you're. yeah On demand or whatever.
00:57:44
Felicia Devine
Was it? Yeah, yeah, where you could like record live TV.
00:57:46
Natalie Richards
huh. Yeah, that's great that's true.
00:57:49
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I don't know.
00:57:50
Natalie Richards
So like they could, the the footage has been manipulated at this point for whatever.
00:57:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I know, yeah.
00:57:55
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh, I can't. Nothing is real.
00:57:59
Felicia Devine
Nothing is real. And they say that the delay lag time and communications with like the correspondence of, oh, we're like talking to the man in the moon. It should have been over two seconds of delay based on like distance and and technology. And it was like 0.5 seconds.
00:58:14
Natalie Richards
whom
00:58:15
Felicia Devine
That's like FaceTiming.
00:58:15
Natalie Richards
I'm going to have to ask i'm to have to ask Kyle about this, about his radio wave knowledge, his calculation.
00:58:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh, yeah. We I'll send Kyle my presentation.
00:58:23
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Let's see how believable it is.
00:58:26
Felicia Devine
Mm hmm. Okay, I'm going into this a lot more confident now.
00:58:28
Natalie Richards
Oh, man.
00:58:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah, no, I think...
00:58:31
Felicia Devine
Last night when I made my presentation, because I was reading the counter arguments, I was second guessing myself.
00:58:36
Natalie Richards
No. the who the Conspiracy theories, it does who cares about the counterarguments?
00:58:38
Felicia Devine
A part of it is like, i know part of conspiracy is that you it omit
00:58:42
Natalie Richards
Just...
00:58:45
Felicia Devine
you omit knowledge
00:58:46
Natalie Richards
You completely omit things to just believe what you believe.
00:58:50
Felicia Devine
believe what you believe and present the facts that you know so that's part of my shtick is I'm not telling them anything that counter-argued so yeah it's also on Wikipedia for them to see yeah
00:58:58
Natalie Richards
Gosh, no. They can find that out themselves. This is why you have to do your own research. oh this is amazing.
00:59:10
Felicia Devine
anyway
00:59:11
Natalie Richards
Well, that's the
Future Podcast Topics and Wrap-up
00:59:12
Natalie Richards
episode.
00:59:15
Felicia Devine
I don't think you learned a single thing today, but that's okay.
00:59:18
Natalie Richards
That funny.
00:59:18
Felicia Devine
Did anyone learn anything? Did they learn anything? Did we teach...
00:59:21
Natalie Richards
It doesn't matter. We had a couple, we've, we've taught a lot in the last few episodes.
00:59:26
Felicia Devine
We have a follower or a listener that wants us to start maybe educating on some of the things that crunchy people do that are not safe for pregnancy.
00:59:37
Felicia Devine
So that can be next episode.
00:59:37
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:59:38
Felicia Devine
But I just I just we're 59 minutes in and I just remember.
00:59:39
Natalie Richards
Okay. Sure thing. Sure thing.
00:59:44
Felicia Devine
She had said she would say, oh, I you had mentioned like ashwagandha isn't safe when you're pregnant.
00:59:44
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:59:50
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:59:50
Felicia Devine
And that's not common knowledge, but ashwagandha is a very common crunchy girl additive these days. There's like ashwagandha and Nello drinks.
00:59:57
Natalie Richards
Totally. Yeah, it's in a lot of things now.
01:00:00
Felicia Devine
like So maybe us giving some like products or topics of things that like, hey, when you are pregnant, this is something that you shouldn't take.
01:00:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:06
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:00:10
Natalie Richards
Lovely. Okay. We can do that. I have a lot to say about, we have to talk about birth control a little bit.
01:00:12
Felicia Devine
So.
01:00:18
Felicia Devine
Oh, wait, Natalie.
01:00:20
Natalie Richards
We have a lot to talk about.
01:00:21
Felicia Devine
Wait, we were supposed to talk about...
01:00:22
Natalie Richards
look
01:00:23
Felicia Devine
so I'm so sorry.
01:00:27
Natalie Richards
oh it doesn't matter.
01:00:27
Felicia Devine
i derailed us.
01:00:28
Natalie Richards
it's because really we needed to have that part of like a different episode entirely. What I was going to talk about today is fascinating
01:00:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yes.
01:00:39
Natalie Richards
just wait no it doesn't matter it just was like no it's fine we can talk about this whenever I'll make like a I'll make some serious notes about it to listen to the podcast yeah yeah kind of except it's well researched it is I could so it could sound like a conspiracy I suppose
01:00:40
Felicia Devine
Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. Okay. You're going to start off the podcast next week.
01:00:48
Felicia Devine
Incredible. oh Well, this also gives me a chance to listen to some of the the arguments that you're going to present on. The conspiracies you're going to present on.
01:01:02
Felicia Devine
It's actually well-researched. Yeah.
01:01:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I will drop one.
01:01:09
Natalie Richards
Your birth control makes you not like your husband anymore.
01:01:11
Felicia Devine
One bit of knowledge i just I just learned about is this massive research that just came out about berberine. And is B1 berberine?
01:01:22
Felicia Devine
Or did you say berberine earlier?
01:01:23
Natalie Richards
B1. I said berberine earlier.
01:01:24
Felicia Devine
What is B1?
01:01:25
Natalie Richards
Berberine is B1 thiamine.
01:01:26
Felicia Devine
Siamine.
01:01:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah, that sounds right.
01:01:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Okay. I don't know why I said berberine.
01:01:30
Natalie Richards
huh Well, because it's on the brain.
01:01:32
Felicia Devine
That's not right. I know. Well, you had said berberine. Okay. I think B1 is thiamine and it's direct linked to hyperemesis.
01:01:37
Natalie Richards
i think so.
01:01:42
Felicia Devine
I can't even use words today. HG. Okay. If you have HG in pregnancy, grab it. I can't say that for the life of me. So HG in pregnancy is directly linked, but I think a lot of people had kind of
01:01:54
Natalie Richards
To a lot of b vitamins.
01:01:56
Felicia Devine
Yes. But I think a lot of people have like fear, not theorized, but like in the crunchy world where like you're mineral deficient, you're vitamin deficient.
01:02:04
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:02:05
Felicia Devine
It's like a nutritional profile thing.
01:02:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah. People know this.
01:02:06
Felicia Devine
And now, now the research is coming out that says that.
01:02:07
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Beautiful.
01:02:10
Felicia Devine
So I think OBs and Western medicine are going to be able to then help out.
01:02:10
Natalie Richards
Beautiful.
01:02:16
Natalie Richards
Good. I certainly hope.
01:02:17
Felicia Devine
a little bit deeper and a little bit better. Cause a lot of times when people have HG, they're just like, yeah, like come to the hospital, get an IV, go home.
01:02:22
Natalie Richards
Good luck.
01:02:23
Felicia Devine
Good luck.
01:02:24
Natalie Richards
Try some unisum.
01:02:24
Felicia Devine
You're just gonna wait it out. Yeah.
01:02:25
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
01:02:26
Felicia Devine
Unisom. Yeah. Which I think is Unisom B6 and B12.
01:02:27
Natalie Richards
Uh-huh. B6.
01:02:30
Natalie Richards
Yeah, and something else.
01:02:31
Felicia Devine
Right.
01:02:32
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
01:02:32
Felicia Devine
Or no, they say Unisom and take B12 like combined.
01:02:32
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
01:02:36
Felicia Devine
But, anyway, it was just really cool to hear that actual research is going to propel the Western side forward.
01:02:40
Natalie Richards
Lovely. I love it.
01:02:44
Felicia Devine
Anyway.
01:02:45
Natalie Richards
Love it.
01:02:46
Felicia Devine
Thanks for joining us this week.
01:02:49
Natalie Richards
We've got lots of amazing things coming down the pipeline.
01:02:50
Felicia Devine
The roller coaster.
01:02:53
Felicia Devine
Yeah, that was our little preview for next time. Maybe. Maybe. Unless we get off track again.
01:02:58
Natalie Richards
Something else is going to come up. Okay.
01:03:00
Felicia Devine
All right. Have a great week.
01:03:02
Natalie Richards
Bye.