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Ep 12 - WWFND? (medicine cabinet edition): Pain and Fevers
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New series, who dis? We’re kicking off What Would Felicia & Natalie Do?—aka the unsponsored tour of our actual medicine cabinets and the messy thought process behind them. This week’s hot topic: the internet spiral over acetaminophen in pregnancy and why “use the least amount necessary” somehow broke the timeline. We talk fevers (what they’re for, when we watch vs. intervene, why demeanor matters more than the number), safe ways we manage symptoms for moms-to-be and littles (think electrolytes, lukewarm baths, ABC homeopathy, saline, herbs), and practical pain alternatives from prenatal chiro to nettle tea to fixing your dang chair. The thesis? Go least-invasive to most-invasive, observe your people like it’s your job, and prep your cabinet before the 2 a.m. panic. Choose what’s right for your family—no politics required, just discernment.
Friendly reminder: We’re chiropractors chatting about our own choices. This episode is education + opinion, not personal medical advice. Do what’s best for you with a trusted provider.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction: Episode 12 Overview
00:00:51
Felicia Devine
Hello and welcome back to episode 12.
00:00:53
Natalie Richards
Hello, Felicia.
00:00:54
Felicia Devine
Hey, Nat.
00:00:55
Natalie Richards
How's everything going today?
00:00:58
Felicia Devine
It's been a good week.
Nostalgia and Hot Topics
00:00:59
Natalie Richards
It has been a good week, but we have some things to address.
00:01:02
Felicia Devine
ah Some hot topics.
00:01:04
Natalie Richards
Some serious stuff
00:01:07
Felicia Devine
I just said hot topics and it reminded me of that store we used to shop at.
00:01:09
Natalie Richards
of the store.
00:01:11
Felicia Devine
Well, I didn't shop there. Oh my gosh.
00:01:13
Natalie Richards
Oh, I would like walk by it in the mall and be like, who goes in there?
00:01:13
Felicia Devine
I would have never. I don't think I was allowed inside of it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't want to be caught.
00:01:19
Natalie Richards
It's not not our MO.
00:01:22
Felicia Devine
Not our MO for the shopping, but today's hot topic is our MO.
00:01:26
Natalie Richards
But we do like we do like hot topics, that's for sure.
Introducing 'What Would Felicia and Natalie Do?' Series
00:01:31
Natalie Richards
um So we have some things that we have to get off our chest.
00:01:35
Felicia Devine
We have to. We can't let you listeners go.
00:01:38
Natalie Richards
Because we have opinions and they deserve to be heard.
00:01:43
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:01:44
Natalie Richards
And ah ah we're basically titling this episode and potentially ah few others. What?
00:01:52
Felicia Devine
A new series is emerging.
00:01:53
Natalie Richards
a new series of Felicia and Natalie, a new series called What Would Felicia and Natalie Do?
Approaches to Health and Medicine
00:02:00
Felicia Devine
What would we do?
00:02:00
Natalie Richards
and We're taking ah few different scenarios and we're going to ah kind of give you guys what our thought process would be behind that scenario and what would we do? What would we take? What would we give?
00:02:18
Natalie Richards
We're talking like ailments and sickness and yes, literally what is our what is our medicine cabinet?
00:02:20
Felicia Devine
How would we address it? Where's that? What's our medicine cabinet looking like these days?
00:02:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And truthfully, like Giuseppe knows what quote unquote medicine is these days.
00:02:33
Natalie Richards
Oh yeah.
00:02:33
Felicia Devine
Like I call his things medicine. I say ready for medicine because medicine is supposed to be healing,
00:02:36
Natalie Richards
Medicine. Yeah. Yep.
00:02:41
Natalie Richards
Helpful, healing, adaptive with the body.
00:02:43
Felicia Devine
not not suppressing.
00:02:46
Natalie Richards
Correct. That's how we think. um So let's dive in.
00:02:51
Felicia Devine
Shall Let's start off with a little history.
Acetaminophen and Pregnancy Concerns
00:02:56
Felicia Devine
not some history. Let's start off with um current events. So last week, the president, Mr.
00:02:59
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:03:02
Felicia Devine
Trump, and his cabinet and the and NIH, yeah, they basically came out and said that they are now going to
00:03:06
Natalie Richards
Secretary Kennedy and and and everybody. Yeah.
00:03:14
Felicia Devine
you know, proceed with saying that acetaminophen Tylenol is not recommended during pregnancy. And if it is used, that it should be used in the least um amount possible for the shortest, yeah, the shortest amount of time possible.
00:03:24
Natalie Richards
The lowest dose.
00:03:27
Natalie Richards
Let's also preface this by saying they are announcing this based on preliminary data that I don't think has fully been released yet.
00:03:36
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:03:40
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:03:40
Natalie Richards
So I think there's more to come.
00:03:42
Felicia Devine
There's more to come.
00:03:43
Natalie Richards
um And it's just purely ah precaution that's been blown out of the water, truthfully.
00:03:43
Felicia Devine
Like all good things.
00:03:51
Felicia Devine
Truly so hot.
00:03:53
Natalie Richards
So hot.
00:03:54
Felicia Devine
So hot.
00:03:55
Natalie Richards
But it was trite.
00:03:55
Felicia Devine
And people are so enraged by it. And it baffles my mind.
00:03:59
Natalie Richards
And I watch this and I go, I'm sorry, where's the confusion?
00:04:03
Felicia Devine
why Why are we mad?
00:04:05
Natalie Richards
I'm so confused.
00:04:06
Felicia Devine
They're literally like, be cautious. And everyone's like, ah, why are we being cautious?
00:04:10
Natalie Richards
I'm going to down a whole bottle of Tylenol while I'm pregnant.
00:04:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:04:13
Natalie Richards
What's happening?
00:04:14
Felicia Devine
Where was your caution and where was your skepticism when they said stay six feet apart from each other?
00:04:19
Natalie Richards
Holy moly.
00:04:21
Felicia Devine
What? why are we Why are we freaking out that people are like, be cautious. Use the least amount of Tylenol as possible. And everyone's like, I want more.
00:04:28
Natalie Richards
like is i know Like, is this that controversial to just say you're you're pregnant and maybe maybe you should be thoughtful on what goes into your body?
00:04:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
Natural Remedies and Health Management
00:04:40
Natalie Richards
I'm so blown to pieces about this.
00:04:41
Felicia Devine
Take a beat.
00:04:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I had to, i don't do this often, but I had to unfollow some people this week.
00:04:49
Natalie Richards
I know. Right.
00:04:50
Felicia Devine
And it's simply because they're gaslighting mothers into thinking that they can't make their own choices. And I'm like, wait, what?
00:04:55
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:04:57
Felicia Devine
They're literally like, if you're, if you're like listening to this advice, if you're part of the disgrace and the uneducated mothers that are listening to this of advice, I'm like, that's called gaslighting.
00:05:09
Natalie Richards
this study is from Johns Hopkins.
00:05:12
Felicia Devine
Also, it's called use discretion.
00:05:14
Natalie Richards
And yes, yes,
00:05:15
Felicia Devine
If you don't want to take Tylenol, you don't have to take Tylenol. They're not telling you to take more. They're saying take less. Do less, America.
00:05:22
Natalie Richards
you can still make your own decision.
00:05:23
Felicia Devine
Do less. Yeah.
00:05:26
Natalie Richards
Oh my god i don't understand.
00:05:27
Felicia Devine
It's crazy.
00:05:28
Natalie Richards
and
00:05:29
Felicia Devine
So the fact that it got super heated and political is wild. But Natalie and I are here to show you that there are alternatives to reducing fevers, why we have fevers in the first place, to reducing pain, why we have pain in the first place.
00:05:44
Felicia Devine
All these things, we have a medicine cabinet and we have options for us.
00:05:46
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:05:48
Felicia Devine
And again, it doesn't have to be political. It can just be, this is what you're choosing for your family and you can make your own choices.
00:05:51
Natalie Richards
No.
00:05:54
Natalie Richards
Yes. And also newsflash, this isn't new.
00:06:00
Felicia Devine
Newsflash.
00:06:03
Natalie Richards
been aware of this for maybe my entire life.
00:06:05
Felicia Devine
Centuries. Yeah.
00:06:07
Natalie Richards
I mean, i i've it just wasn't something, i don't even i don't even know.
00:06:11
Felicia Devine
Natalie's at a loss for words.
00:06:15
Natalie Richards
I understand i grew up a little different. ah have a different point of view, but like my whole premise of my life is
00:06:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:25
Natalie Richards
is least invasive to most invasive. Okay.
00:06:28
Felicia Devine
Start small.
00:06:28
Natalie Richards
Can we, can we figure out maybe like, why do you have a headache?
00:06:33
Felicia Devine
and huh
00:06:33
Natalie Richards
ah Just, just purely that.
00:06:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:35
Natalie Richards
Why do you have pain?
00:06:37
Felicia Devine
and
00:06:37
Natalie Richards
Why, like can you try drinking a glass of water?
00:06:43
Felicia Devine
Water fixes a lot of problems, let's be real.
00:06:44
Natalie Richards
have you Have you had some electrolytes?
00:06:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:06:48
Natalie Richards
Let's start there and then we can slowly build our way up as things are necessary.
00:06:49
Felicia Devine
Correct.
00:06:53
Felicia Devine
Correct.
00:06:53
Natalie Richards
So like my personal experience with pain relief is that I maybe have taken maybe i've taken Tylenol once in my entire life.
00:07:02
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:07:03
Natalie Richards
Once. I've never taken Advil.
00:07:05
Felicia Devine
That's hot, Natalie.
00:07:06
Natalie Richards
but and Never have I ever taken Advil. One time of Tylenol, the only time was when I had ah kidney stone and I wish I didn't because it didn't even touch it.
00:07:10
Felicia Devine
Cool.
00:07:17
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:07:17
Natalie Richards
So it was like, it was stupid.
00:07:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And it distressed your kidneys and your liver.
00:07:19
Natalie Richards
I wish, i wish I had homeopathy at that time. I wish I knew more because probably when I was pregnant.
00:07:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah. When did you get into homeopathy?
00:07:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So I really, my mom had used like certain remedies.
00:07:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:37
Natalie Richards
just like random ones like pulsatilla for like my life, but never, it was never like a huge part.
00:07:40
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:45
Felicia Devine
It wasn't like a medicine cabinet.
00:07:45
Natalie Richards
And then I started, no. And then I started diving in.
00:07:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:07:48
Natalie Richards
But like, again, we didn't really have a traditional medicine cabinet at my house anyway. Like the medications, over the counter stuff that wasn't an option for us really,
00:07:59
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:08:00
Natalie Richards
And we survived really well. We had chiropractic and we had good food and nutrition and there weren't many that needed more.
00:08:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:05
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:08:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:08:10
Felicia Devine
No.
00:08:11
Natalie Richards
Okay. Because we have so many things at our disposal.
00:08:11
Felicia Devine
No.
00:08:14
Natalie Richards
We have so much control over, we have so many options if you really dig and dive.
00:08:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:21
Natalie Richards
So that's, I guess, where I'm coming from. So this whole thing, I don't understand at all, but I understand that if if Tylenol is your only thing and you're pregnant and that's the only thing that you've been told is safe,
00:08:25
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:08:27
Felicia Devine
I know. what Like, why people are mad? I'm like...
00:08:35
Natalie Richards
quote unquote safe.
00:08:36
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:08:36
Natalie Richards
I understand that this could be a really, really tough topic because it's like, what do I do then?
00:08:39
Felicia Devine
Shocking moment. Yeah.
00:08:42
Natalie Richards
But we're here to tell you that there are so many options. Okay.
00:08:47
Felicia Devine
Okay. Natalie's taking the calm road. I'm so hype about this. Natalie's like, we're going to sit and hold your hand and I'm going to be like slamming a book in your face.
00:08:59
Felicia Devine
um
00:09:00
Natalie Richards
ah Do what you need to do.
00:09:00
Felicia Devine
So sorry. No, it's fine. um Yeah. I mean, there are so many reasons why your body is presenting the symptoms it's presenting. Like symptoms are essentially check engine lights.
00:09:11
Natalie Richards
right Yep.
00:09:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. You get a headache. That's the check engine light that comes on that says, hey, you need to dive into what the cause of the headache is. Like we said, are you dehydrated? Are you mineral deficient? Do you need electrolytes?
00:09:25
Natalie Richards
I have seen so many chronic migraine patients that and get better within two days of adding a mineral supplement or trace minerals your water or electrolytes, whatever, whatever form.
00:09:26
Felicia Devine
Are you?
00:09:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:09:34
Felicia Devine
Right. Mm-hmm.
00:09:37
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:09:38
Natalie Richards
do wonders.
00:09:38
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:09:39
Natalie Richards
It can do wonders.
00:09:40
Felicia Devine
Exactly. And it's like, if we can just trace backwards to the check engine light and figure out why you're having the pain and the fever, then you don't need to just mask it with a Tylenol because the Tylenol is not solving a problem.
00:09:44
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:09:48
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:09:52
Felicia Devine
The Tylenol is masking.
00:09:53
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:09:54
Felicia Devine
So essentially what Tylenol does to the brain is it raises your pain threshold. So it's not fixing the problem. It's just making your brain less aware. Oh
00:10:00
Natalie Richards
Right. Not to mention all the then side effects that are coming from Tylenol.
00:10:05
Felicia Devine
yo oh my gosh.
00:10:07
Natalie Richards
Like so bad.
00:10:08
Felicia Devine
Your poor liver.
00:10:09
Natalie Richards
but Can we talk about that for a second?
00:10:09
Felicia Devine
Your poor liver. Yeah.
00:10:10
Natalie Richards
So Tylenol massively depletes your glutathione levels. And glutathione for anybody who doesn't know is maybe one of the most important compounds in your body to make sure that you have something that can help your liver.
00:10:17
Felicia Devine
Massively.
00:10:23
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:10:27
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:10:28
Natalie Richards
It's working in your liver to help your body detoxify and get out the 20,000 chemicals that we're exposed to every day.
00:10:32
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:10:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah, it's called it's called an antioxidant.
00:10:35
Natalie Richards
Like we we, are so taxed. Yes. It's a mass, the master antioxidant.
00:10:41
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:10:42
Natalie Richards
We are so overloaded with toxins in general that if you don't have glutathione working even like a little bit, like you will die.
00:10:43
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:10:45
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
Tylenol's Impact and Alternatives
00:10:50
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:10:51
Natalie Richards
and And this is why people actually die from taking sixilele six Tylenol.
00:10:51
Felicia Devine
No, it literally Mm-hmm.
00:10:55
Felicia Devine
Too much, don't know.
00:10:57
Natalie Richards
It doesn't even take much. You can overdose from like four to six Tylenol depending on your weight.
00:10:58
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:11:02
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:11:03
Natalie Richards
One Tylenol, one normal strength Tylenol is the equivalent to drinking six alcoholic drinks.
00:11:07
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:11:11
Felicia Devine
On your liver.
00:11:11
Natalie Richards
Did you know that?
00:11:12
Felicia Devine
On your liver.
00:11:12
Natalie Richards
that's That's the glutathione reduction and the the overall stress on your liver.
00:11:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:11:16
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:11:19
Natalie Richards
One.
00:11:19
Felicia Devine
Oh, and they get this. People drink the night before and then they take a Tylenol to fix their hangover and their liver is literally being squished to shrivel and it's being out Yeah.
00:11:23
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:11:27
Natalie Richards
It's shriveling.
00:11:33
Natalie Richards
Ugh.
00:11:33
Felicia Devine
And then we wonder why we have problems.
00:11:35
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:11:35
Felicia Devine
But I just – I'm getting sidetracked because I'm getting so heated. I'm sweating right now.
00:11:40
Natalie Richards
I know. ah you know.
00:11:43
Felicia Devine
I don't know where I was going to go with that. Oh, so glutathione and like antioxidants.
00:11:45
Natalie Richards
oh
00:11:47
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:11:48
Felicia Devine
So a huge thing in like trendy nutrition culture is like eat your antioxidants like blueberries or get your acai bowls. It's like –
00:11:56
Natalie Richards
Your colors.
00:11:57
Felicia Devine
It's like, no, just honor the liver that you have and don't treat it poorly.
00:11:58
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:12:03
Felicia Devine
And then you don't need to do all these trendy things.
00:12:05
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:12:06
Felicia Devine
Your liver produces antioxidants.
00:12:08
Natalie Richards
The appropriate amount.
00:12:09
Felicia Devine
Yes. And so, I mean, yes, you need to eat your rainbow and yes, you need to eat healthy foods, but like we don't need to counteract a night of drinking with eating an acai bowl.
00:12:12
Natalie Richards
Of course.
00:12:18
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:12:20
Felicia Devine
Let's be real.
00:12:21
Natalie Richards
Let's be real.
00:12:21
Felicia Devine
Let's be real. Okay. So
00:12:23
Natalie Richards
I guess it's better than counteracting a night of drinking with a Tylenol.
00:12:28
Felicia Devine
Our advice, eat an acai bowl over taking your Tylenol. Yes, but.
00:12:35
Natalie Richards
Okay. Also be aware. We're not just talking about Tylenol here.
00:12:39
Felicia Devine
Right, right.
00:12:39
Natalie Richards
Acetaminophen is in so many things.
00:12:40
Felicia Devine
Sorry.
00:12:44
Felicia Devine
NyQuil, DayQuil.
00:12:45
Natalie Richards
So many things.
00:12:46
Felicia Devine
hu
00:12:46
Natalie Richards
Be aware. Okay.
00:12:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah, no. um The other thing. So speaking of glutathione, maybe let's start off our first hitter. Coffee enemas.
00:12:56
Natalie Richards
Oh yeah.
00:12:58
Felicia Devine
So circling back to episode one, no, episode two, episode two about detoxifying.
00:12:58
Natalie Richards
Two. Yeah. Okay.
00:13:05
Felicia Devine
So coffee enemas utilizing the benefit of like your hepatic vein and, and, um, pulmitic acids and things like that.
00:13:12
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:13:14
Felicia Devine
It boosts your glutathione in your liver. it helps your liver squeeze out 600 to 800% more glutathione. more glutathiae
00:13:24
Natalie Richards
Crazy.
00:13:25
Felicia Devine
It's about 700%, but depending on how old you how long you hold and like all the like little nuances, it's insanity.
00:13:27
Natalie Richards
Yes. That's amazing.
00:13:33
Felicia Devine
So if you can boost your glutathione naturally using ah coffee enema, that can fight off tons of inflammation in the body.
00:13:37
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:13:40
Felicia Devine
It can fight off tons of precancerous cell. Like it literally goes to war for your body.
00:13:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:13:47
Felicia Devine
So that's a good starting point. If you're like, okay, I need like antioxidant things in my body right now.
00:13:55
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Okay, real question.
00:13:56
Felicia Devine
and
00:13:57
Natalie Richards
Can you do that while you're pregnant?
00:13:59
Felicia Devine
You can't do it while you're pregnant. Well, actually you can, but I'm not going to tell you, you can.
00:14:00
Natalie Richards
Right?
00:14:04
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:05
Felicia Devine
I've had patients that do it. I'm, I'm a little bit more cautious on it. As far as coffee goes, you can do it, but I, I don't, but I also,
00:14:09
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:13
Natalie Richards
You can do a regular enema, but yeah.
00:14:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah. I also like I'm a little bit more cautious on all things when I'm pregnant, as I think everyone should be.
00:14:20
Natalie Richards
Exactly. Yes.
00:14:22
Felicia Devine
Everyone should be more cautious when they're pregnant. You are literally creating life.
00:14:25
Natalie Richards
yes
00:14:26
Felicia Devine
You should not be just willy-nilly doing things.
00:14:27
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:14:29
Felicia Devine
um But in the grand scheme of like boosting glutathione, the most straightforward route of doing that without consuming glutathione as a supplement is to do a coffee enema.
00:14:40
Natalie Richards
yes
00:14:41
Felicia Devine
So –
00:14:41
Natalie Richards
In general, we're just trying not to deplete our bodies also and just like treat it well.
00:14:45
Felicia Devine
Yeah, we're trying to boost our natural, yeah.
00:14:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:14:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah, okay, so let's talk about um your reasons and explanations for fevers and then how we can address those in pregnant patients or pregnant people um and children.
00:14:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:00
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:15:04
Natalie Richards
And children. Yeah. so fevers are just such a hot, like a they're triggering subject.
00:15:11
Felicia Devine
Hot topic, shall you say?
00:15:12
Natalie Richards
Because it's another hot topic, literally.
00:15:17
Felicia Devine
I wonder if that's sort where that came from.
00:15:19
Natalie Richards
so um There are so many people that have a lot of fear around fevers. I am not that person. So I'm going to come at this from a person who I don't even know if I own a thermometer because I because i don't care about the number.
00:15:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:34
Felicia Devine
Really? Okay.
00:15:38
Natalie Richards
i truly don't.
00:15:39
Felicia Devine
like I own a thermometer.
00:15:40
Natalie Richards
i I do somewhere. If i had to find it, I would find it.
00:15:43
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:46
Natalie Richards
But i I'm not concerned about the number at all.
00:15:49
Felicia Devine
i've not I've not taken an adult fever temperature in a very long time.
00:15:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah. like
00:15:53
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:15:55
Natalie Richards
I am mostly concerned about the affect of that person. so the I'm concerned about the
00:16:00
Felicia Devine
Yes. What does that mean, Natalie? What is affect?
00:16:07
Natalie Richards
kind of just the general demeanor like the
00:16:08
Felicia Devine
Demeanor.
00:16:11
Natalie Richards
yes
00:16:12
Felicia Devine
okay
00:16:12
Natalie Richards
the look the smell the behavior the
00:16:14
Felicia Devine
Behavior.
00:16:17
Natalie Richards
Yeah. So if there's severe lethargy, if there's any sort of dehydration to the point that that person is either not taking anything in or is then expelling whatever they're taking in, then I would get concerned.
00:16:19
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:16:21
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:16:30
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:16:31
Natalie Richards
Like dehydration is really the only thing I am concerned about if there's a fever.
00:16:32
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:16:37
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:16:37
Natalie Richards
That's really it.
00:16:38
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:16:38
Natalie Richards
Because from a immunological standpoint, if your body is determining that it needs to get its temperature up to a certain point, it knows depending on it's a bacteria or a virus or fungus or whatever, it knows how high it needs to get.
00:16:44
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:16:49
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:16:55
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:16:56
Natalie Richards
And if we interfere with that in any way, we end up not letting your body's cycle go through the whole – it's not finishing the loop.
00:17:05
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:17:05
Natalie Richards
So then you end up with these recurrent fevers for multiple days. You end up with kids who are really, really sick end up getting more of like that chesty bronchitis type of sickness because the body isn't able to clear it out when it's in the throat and the sinuses.
00:17:09
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:17:16
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:17:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:20
Natalie Richards
That's what the fever will do.
00:17:22
Felicia Devine
So a fever basically incinerates whatever pathogen it's detecting. If it's a bacteria, it's going to raise it to a certain temperature.
00:17:26
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:17:28
Felicia Devine
it's if a virus,
00:17:28
Natalie Richards
Yes.
Fever Management in Pregnancy and Children
00:17:29
Felicia Devine
it's going to raise a little hotter.
00:17:31
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:17:31
Felicia Devine
um And if we interfere by taking a substance that's going to reduce the fever, a fever reducer, that's basically going to prolong the virus, the bacteria, the pathogen inside our body, allowing it to make you sicker.
00:17:43
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:17:46
Felicia Devine
So the goal is to let that fever run its course, correct?
00:17:50
Natalie Richards
Ideally, hot
00:17:52
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:17:52
Natalie Richards
hot and heavy, and then it breaks within a day.
00:17:53
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:17:56
Natalie Richards
like that
00:17:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:17:57
Natalie Richards
Unless there's something serious, serious, serious going on, like a major, I guess, bacteria that your body's never seen before, yes,
00:18:00
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:18:05
Felicia Devine
hey But there will be other signs that something is wrong.
00:18:08
Natalie Richards
yes.
00:18:09
Felicia Devine
Like Natalie was saying, like the demeanor of the person will drastically shift if there needs to be intervention.
00:18:10
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:18:15
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:18:15
Felicia Devine
um Now, how what's your take on like febrile seizures? Like how do we recognize what's going to happen?
00:18:22
Natalie Richards
Febrile seizures typically actually don't even happen at very high temperatures.
00:18:25
Felicia Devine
In kids.
00:18:28
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:18:29
Natalie Richards
It happens when the temperature shifts quickly, whether that's up or down.
00:18:32
Felicia Devine
Oh, it's a quick shift. Oh.
00:18:35
Natalie Richards
So sometimes with fever reducers, it can actually cause febrile seizures because it's quickly, it's a quick shift.
00:18:38
Felicia Devine
hey
00:18:41
Felicia Devine
Oh, because it's a quick shift. So your body's going into shock.
00:18:44
Natalie Richards
So, right. So it's either like a very quick, uptick that then a lot of times doesn't very high.
00:18:51
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:18:54
Natalie Richards
get very high
00:18:55
Felicia Devine
it Okay.
00:18:55
Natalie Richards
um or Yeah. it's It's usually the quick change in temperature, which would could also be putting like a really cold cloth on on the back of the neck or like a cold bath.
00:19:09
Felicia Devine
Okay. hey
00:19:11
Natalie Richards
Like that could, even a tepid bath sometimes can trigger a febrile seizure if you're trying to reduce that fever without letting the body go through its natural
00:19:12
Felicia Devine
Trigger.
00:19:17
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:19:22
Natalie Richards
it's natural progression. Um, I also know febrile seizures typically are not damaging for the child's brain.
00:19:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:19:31
Felicia Devine
Correct. They're scary.
00:19:33
Natalie Richards
They're very scary.
00:19:33
Felicia Devine
They're scary. Okay.
00:19:34
Natalie Richards
I think the main part to them is that they're very scary and they are absolutely, absolutely.
00:19:38
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And you should seek some sort of medical. Yeah.
00:19:42
Natalie Richards
But typically it's when you're trying to take that fever down quickly or, or it's, it's jumping quickly.
00:19:43
Felicia Devine
um
00:19:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah. yeah Yeah. And that's another problem. Like, why is your body doing that drastic?
00:19:53
Natalie Richards
Right. Right. But high let's let's also discuss what you consider to be a high fever.
00:19:56
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:01
Natalie Richards
And this is not just me, my opinion.
00:20:01
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:20:03
Natalie Richards
Like this is actually what...
00:20:04
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah. now is Natalie's leaving the opinion sphere. Okay, Natalie.
00:20:10
Natalie Richards
This is like documented. So if there is no fever until it is 100.4. Okay.
00:20:17
Felicia Devine
it
00:20:18
Natalie Richards
okay So anything lower than 100.4 is not a fever.
00:20:18
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:20:21
Felicia Devine
Not a fever.
00:20:22
Natalie Richards
Sorry.
00:20:22
Felicia Devine
Not a fever.
00:20:23
Natalie Richards
You have maybe a slightly elevated temperature reading that day, but it is not, it is, or a false reading.
00:20:27
Felicia Devine
Or a false reading.
00:20:29
Natalie Richards
It's not a fever. Sorry. ah So you do not need to even begin to think about being worried.
00:20:35
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yep. Mm-hmm.
00:20:37
Natalie Richards
At 100.4. Okay. 100.4 could, ja I mean, I wouldn't even be, ah it wouldn't even cross my mind that I'd be nervous about that.
00:20:39
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:20:44
Felicia Devine
But no.
00:20:47
Felicia Devine
No. Mm-hmm.
00:20:48
Natalie Richards
Then we get up to like 101. Don't care. 102. Don't care.
00:20:52
Felicia Devine
Do not care.
00:20:52
Natalie Richards
hundred and three
00:20:53
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:20:53
Natalie Richards
103. Truthfully, don't really care. That's still a very moderate, considered a moderate fever.
00:20:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:00
Natalie Richards
That's a very much so. Most people will get to 103 if they're really trying to something out. knock something out
00:21:07
Felicia Devine
i'm gonna go i I'm just going to throw a disclaimer in.
00:21:10
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:21:10
Felicia Devine
We're not talking about infants.
00:21:12
Natalie Richards
No, also true.
00:21:13
Felicia Devine
We're not talking about newborn infants.
00:21:15
Natalie Richards
No newborns. Like under, what is it, three months, four months?
00:21:16
Felicia Devine
No, no.
00:21:19
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I think, well, I was going to say six months just because I like six months.
00:21:21
Natalie Richards
Six months is safe.
00:21:22
Felicia Devine
um So this is none of what we're talking about right this second is about newborns.
00:21:27
Natalie Richards
No.
00:21:28
Felicia Devine
Just so you know.
00:21:29
Natalie Richards
Also, very rare for a newborn to get a fever that that that's that high, especially if breastfeeding.
00:21:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:21:35
Natalie Richards
Another plug for breastfeeding. Okay.
00:21:39
Natalie Richards
Your baby will get all of the antibodies from you.
00:21:39
Felicia Devine
Okay, so.
00:21:41
Natalie Richards
Okay. Anyway, one of three.
00:21:42
Felicia Devine
Okay, now we're at 103. What do you think, 103? Okay.
00:21:45
Natalie Richards
Don't care.
00:21:45
Felicia Devine
okay
00:21:46
Natalie Richards
ah Personally.
00:21:47
Felicia Devine
and
00:21:47
Natalie Richards
but I just, I don't care.
00:21:50
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:21:50
Natalie Richards
However, if I had a lethargic dehydrated kid in front of me at 103, then I would be nervous.
00:21:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yes.
00:21:58
Natalie Richards
So, but but, but from my experience, 103 typically alone does not create lethargy.
00:22:06
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:22:07
Natalie Richards
It's just... I don't see that.
00:22:10
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:22:12
Natalie Richards
104, I'm starting to be like, okay, maybe let's consider, we'll monitor it.
00:22:17
Felicia Devine
Let's monitor this.
00:22:20
Natalie Richards
Maybe let's consider maybe some homeopathy.
00:22:24
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:22:24
Natalie Richards
Certainly this entire time electrolytes are being pounded. Okay.
00:22:28
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:22:29
Natalie Richards
Electrolytes, whatever sort of like immune boosters we can get, which we will get into at some point.
00:22:33
Felicia Devine
and huh Right.
00:22:35
Natalie Richards
We're going to get into the immune side of it.
00:22:35
Felicia Devine
Right. Yeah.
00:22:37
Natalie Richards
Another episode.
00:22:38
Felicia Devine
But this is more like triage.
00:22:40
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:22:40
Felicia Devine
Like, what do we do? And then how do we, how do we fix the problem?
00:22:44
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:22:45
Felicia Devine
But we're like talking triage when you have the fever, what are we doing?
00:22:48
Natalie Richards
Yep. And I think if I remember correctly, 104.5, 105, then you start to think like that's actually a high fever.
00:22:56
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:22:57
Natalie Richards
so like I'm still not concerned all that much and in terms of like, there's no brain damage happening.
00:23:01
Felicia Devine
okay man
00:23:05
Natalie Richards
There's no, there are no damages happening to the body.
00:23:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:23:08
Natalie Richards
If your fever gets up that high, it's, it's not documented 107, maybe, but also like,
00:23:10
Felicia Devine
Okay. Right. I was going to say 108, I believe is when proteins denature, but I've literally never known anyone to get 108.
00:23:17
Natalie Richards
yes. So like,
00:23:21
Natalie Richards
ah that would be like severe sepsis that you need to be somewhere else.
00:23:22
Felicia Devine
I've never seen a 108 rating. Yeah.
00:23:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:30
Natalie Richards
Of course. But like in terms of, in terms of real scary things, even febrile seizures don't happen at those high temperatures.
00:23:36
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:23:39
Natalie Richards
It's typically at the lower temperatures if you're trying, if you're changing it quickly.
00:23:40
Felicia Devine
That swing.
00:23:44
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:23:44
Natalie Richards
So I'm just, ah that's just me. I don't have fear around It,
00:23:49
Felicia Devine
Okay. So if you notice that gene is lethargic, you're doing electrolytes and water, and you're doing what homeopathy?
00:23:58
Natalie Richards
Absolutely.
00:24:01
Natalie Richards
If it got to that point and I was really trying to get the fever to come down like a degree or so, i'd probably, depending on his mood, um I'd probably go with belladonna if I was really trying to reduce the fever.
00:24:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:24:13
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:24:16
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:24:17
Natalie Richards
If there was a time when he woke up out of sleep and was like crying, nervous, scared, not feeling good, aconite would probably be my my thought on that one or camomilla.
00:24:23
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:24:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:24:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So the ABC remedy. So aconite, belladonna, chamomilla, you can give in combo.
00:24:33
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:24:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:24:36
Felicia Devine
um and it's like a mother's best friend. If you're like, ooh, what are we, are we fighting an illness?
00:24:39
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:24:41
Felicia Devine
Are we teething? Are we like, just like, like, we don't know.
00:24:44
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:24:46
Felicia Devine
Waking up in the middle of the night, crying, not really sure what's going on.
00:24:48
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:24:49
Felicia Devine
the ABC remedy is gorgeous.
00:24:52
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:24:53
Felicia Devine
Again, aconite, belladonna, chamomilla.
00:24:55
Natalie Richards
Can we talk about teething for a second?
00:24:57
Felicia Devine
Sure.
00:24:57
Natalie Richards
Because this is like this is a common one and this there will be like a low fever, maybe even 102.
00:24:59
Felicia Devine
Sure. Yeah.
00:25:04
Felicia Devine
hi Okay.
00:25:06
Natalie Richards
Could be.
00:25:08
Felicia Devine
Cute. See? Mm-hmm.
00:25:09
Natalie Richards
baby is pulling at their ear maybe. You're thinking, uh-oh, ear infection.
00:25:16
Felicia Devine
Ooh, antibiotic.
00:25:16
Natalie Richards
i'm not thinking I'm not thinking that.
00:25:19
Felicia Devine
We're saying no, no, no,
00:25:21
Natalie Richards
This is what gets people down a really slippery slope.
00:25:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:25:24
Natalie Richards
You have 101, 102 fever. Baby's pulling on their ear.
00:25:28
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:25:28
Natalie Richards
Take him to the pediatrician. oh there's a little fluid in there. You better put him an antibiotic.
00:25:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Catch it. Catch it early. Put them on an antibiotic.
00:25:37
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:25:38
Felicia Devine
No.
00:25:39
Natalie Richards
No. Okay. So typically in these cases, that baby is spiking a fever because the tooth is about to emerge.
00:25:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:25:47
Natalie Richards
Or maybe not even about.
Understanding Symptoms and Parental Anxiety
00:25:49
Natalie Richards
but could be like a few few more days. so
00:25:51
Felicia Devine
Also, they're shoving random things in their mouth, so their body's probably fighting something off.
00:25:51
Natalie Richards
That nerve...
00:25:56
Natalie Richards
No kidding. And that's fine.
00:25:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah, they're like shoving dirty objects in their mouth. Maybe you're getting a little fever from that.
00:26:00
Natalie Richards
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:26:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:26:02
Natalie Richards
The body also will, it gives a fever to protect against the opening of tissue that's about to happen. So it's a preventative fever to eliminate whatever bug might be might be getting into the mouth.
00:26:11
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:14
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:17
Felicia Devine
Hanging out there. Mm-hmm.
00:26:19
Natalie Richards
Yeah. In through that new tooth emerging.
00:26:21
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:22
Natalie Richards
So The nerve from that tooth that they're teething goes right across the lip, right up the cheek and goes right to that ear, that ear pain.
00:26:27
Felicia Devine
okay
00:26:33
Felicia Devine
The ear.
00:26:35
Felicia Devine
Ears.
00:26:36
Natalie Richards
So and you take a baby who's potentially having a tooth come in. They're feeling it in their ear. I'm not saying that they're not feeling the ear.
00:26:43
Felicia Devine
Right. Right, we're right, right.
00:26:45
Natalie Richards
They are. And they're poking at
00:26:46
Felicia Devine
And they're self-soothing by pulling on it.
00:26:47
Natalie Richards
They're pulling on it whatever.
00:26:48
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:50
Natalie Richards
There may also be fluid in that ear, clear fluid, because either they need an adjustment.
00:26:53
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:26:57
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:59
Natalie Richards
They need to get that eustachian tube draining.
00:27:00
Felicia Devine
They need a chiropractic adjustment regardless.
00:27:02
Natalie Richards
regardless, they do, um to help the the cranial bones and the facial bones all all shift the way that they're supposed to and the discomfort.
00:27:03
Felicia Devine
and When they're teething, they need a chiropractic adjustment. Yes.
00:27:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And the discomfort. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:27:13
Natalie Richards
So we have to get that fluid draining a little bit, but the body will create, again, that fluid is there as a result of the inflammation of the tooth emerging.
00:27:22
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:27:24
Natalie Richards
If there is no redness in the ear, if there is no weird looking cloudiness, exactly.
00:27:29
Felicia Devine
Cloudy fluid. Mm-hmm.
00:27:32
Natalie Richards
please do not put your child on an antibiotic for teething. Thank you.
00:27:36
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:27:37
Natalie Richards
Okay. Anyway,
00:27:38
Felicia Devine
End plug.
00:27:41
Natalie Richards
but that's then how you get antibiotic resistance and you get in the cycle and then it happens again with the next tooth and you're like, oh my gosh, another ear infection.
00:27:43
Felicia Devine
And the cycle. Yeah.
00:27:50
Natalie Richards
And then without even really determining whether it's an ear infection at all, they'll say, oh, well, if this happens again, you're going to have to put tubes in the ear.
00:27:54
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:27:58
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:27:59
Natalie Richards
ah this fluid can't be there.
00:28:01
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:28:01
Natalie Richards
Meanwhile, I think the the fluid is actually very protective, but that's a whole other story.
00:28:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah. We could do a we could ear infection process. podcast I mean, a huge population of my patients who start around the age, I would say that around the age from like one to five, a large portion of them, the mom is seeking it out because they're they're in the cycle of ear infection after ear infection, after tube, after tube, after procedure.
00:28:10
Natalie Richards
We could.
00:28:27
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep. yeahp Yep.
00:28:31
Felicia Devine
And they're just like, is there another way? And I'm like, yeah, we can get off the crazy train. We can certainly like remove ourselves from the cycle and have your body naturally healing.
00:28:36
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:28:40
Felicia Devine
And like fevers are fevers are part of it
00:28:41
Natalie Richards
It's hard though. There they are.
00:28:44
Felicia Devine
Like you have to let your kid fever.
00:28:46
Natalie Richards
You have to let your kid be sick.
00:28:46
Felicia Devine
yeah. But also, I'll say we have to observe our babies.
00:28:53
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:28:53
Felicia Devine
We have to observe our children. You need to have eyes on your child. You need to have eyes on what they're doing, how they're acting, what their differences are.
00:28:59
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:29:01
Felicia Devine
Your kid might be totally normal with 104 fever.
00:29:04
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:29:05
Felicia Devine
But we have to be observing. We have to pay attention and be diligent. diligence.
00:29:08
Natalie Richards
That's the whole point is you have, you could have 102 fever and your child's really, really struggling and you need to do something sooner.
00:29:09
Felicia Devine
It's diligence.
00:29:14
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Right. But if we're not being diligent and observing and making note of what is going on, then we're never going to have a compass that tells us and points us north.
00:29:18
Natalie Richards
who Right.
00:29:25
Felicia Devine
If you don't know your kid's normal, you do not know where north is.
00:29:25
Natalie Richards
That's,
00:29:28
Natalie Richards
Exactly.
00:29:28
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:29:29
Natalie Richards
That's why I love homeopathy also because dependent on – like you could have pain for multiple different reasons or presenting in a very different way and you can give a different remedy dependent on how they're acting.
00:29:35
Felicia Devine
Right. Right. Yeah.
00:29:41
Felicia Devine
Right. Right.
00:29:42
Natalie Richards
The other half of it, the other side of the story that I learned from homeopathy class that I took is that your child's recovery is somewhat dependent on – your behavior as a caregiver.
00:29:59
Felicia Devine
um what? Tell us more. i mean, I believe it, but I need to know more.
00:30:03
Natalie Richards
That's what I learned from this one class. It was like, yeah what are the feelings of the caregiver while this sickness or ailment or whatever is going on?
00:30:11
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:30:12
Natalie Richards
you're really nervous about it that child's goingnna going to take on that nervousness and you're going to have to then treat that.
00:30:18
Felicia Devine
Okay. Also Munchausen's by proxy.
00:30:20
Natalie Richards
ah Exactly. Mm-hmm.
00:30:22
Felicia Devine
If your parent is like, oh, you're sick, you're sick, you're sick, you're going to like, I'm sick.
00:30:26
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:30:27
Felicia Devine
And it's quite literal, a psychological turmoil.
00:30:31
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:30:32
Felicia Devine
That's crazy. um i can totally believe it.
00:30:33
Natalie Richards
So like health anxiety and and parental anxiety around sickness is is potentially causing more problems for your child.
00:30:42
Felicia Devine
COVID, COVID, COVID.
00:30:45
Natalie Richards
Exhibit a
00:30:48
Felicia Devine
Natalie, I just can't be stopped today.
00:30:50
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:30:51
Felicia Devine
You're going have censor me.
00:30:52
Natalie Richards
and Never, never cut anything out like that. No.
00:30:57
Felicia Devine
Just you know, for your, for our listeners, Natalie and I don't edit our podcast out.
00:31:01
Natalie Richards
No, we kind of just leave it.
00:31:02
Felicia Devine
We don't cut.
00:31:03
Natalie Richards
No, we talk.
00:31:05
Felicia Devine
We talk.
00:31:05
Natalie Richards
And if we say it, if we say it, we say it.
00:31:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So you're getting like our full unfiltered experience. We, if we say it, it's in the pod.
00:31:13
Natalie Richards
No going back.
00:31:14
Felicia Devine
There's no editing. Um,
00:31:16
Natalie Richards
Okay. What else do we need to talk about fevers?
00:31:18
Felicia Devine
Okay, so what about fevers in pregnancy?
00:31:18
Natalie Richards
There's a couple things.
00:31:21
Felicia Devine
I think, yeah.
00:31:22
Natalie Richards
Okay. Yeah. Very real, real potential um scare, especially during first trimester.
00:31:26
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Right. You don't want to heat your fetus.
00:31:30
Natalie Richards
No, I still am, I'm still, you still have to go by your feelings. Okay.
00:31:40
Natalie Richards
You still have to
00:31:40
Felicia Devine
ok Okay.
00:31:42
Natalie Richards
I'm still not as worried about the actual temperature, but as we get up to like 103, 104, yeah, maybe you want to start doing some natural things to help bring that down a little bit.
00:31:53
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:31:53
Natalie Richards
Tepid bath, tepid washcloth on the neck, belladonna, like do the homeopathy.
00:31:57
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:32:00
Natalie Richards
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:32:01
Felicia Devine
And adults are a little bit more resilient to the shifts.
00:32:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:32:06
Felicia Devine
That's why you don't hear of adults getting febrile seizures.
00:32:09
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:32:09
Felicia Devine
um But again, you don't want to do anything drastic. You don't want to jump in an ice bath.
00:32:14
Natalie Richards
Correct.
00:32:15
Felicia Devine
No. And the word tepid, Natalie, please describe for our listeners if they do not know what that means.
00:32:20
Natalie Richards
Tepid would be like like a little more than room temperature maybe, like 80 degrees,
00:32:22
Felicia Devine
Room temperature?
Natural Remedies and Preventative Strategies
00:32:28
Natalie Richards
like so like lower than our body temperature, not cold, not to the point that they're shivering in the bath.
00:32:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:34
Felicia Devine
Wait, lukewarm? Lukewarm.
00:32:36
Natalie Richards
I guess like lukewarm, yeah.
00:32:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah, I like the word lukewarm.
00:32:38
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:32:38
Felicia Devine
I also like describing outside weather as room temperature. I'm like, oh, it's perfect today. It's room temperature outside.
00:32:45
Felicia Devine
Don't even know what that means.
00:32:45
Natalie Richards
That's true. Like is a nice like 72 would be room temperature.
00:32:46
Felicia Devine
It just feels good. Yeah.
00:32:49
Natalie Richards
So maybe like lukewarm, I guess, is a better.
00:32:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. But a 72 degree bath would be frozen.
00:32:53
Natalie Richards
No, that's cold. Like lukewarm is ah is a better description.
00:32:55
Felicia Devine
um Lukewarm. Stick your hand in and if it's a little bit toasty, it's good.
00:32:58
Natalie Richards
Yeah. There's also a old wives tale of a sock trick, which really does work. And it's like a, you put a wet wool sock on and then cover it with a dry sock.
00:33:07
Felicia Devine
Oh. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
00:33:11
Natalie Richards
And that honestly, from what I've heard works wonders.
00:33:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:33:15
Natalie Richards
So if I had to do anything, I'd probably start with that.
00:33:18
Felicia Devine
Okay. Okay.
00:33:19
Natalie Richards
That would be, it sounds crazy, but it, it, from everything I've, I've ever seen, it really does work.
00:33:20
Felicia Devine
I would. Yeah.
00:33:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah. The other thing is homeopathy is safe for pregnancy.
00:33:28
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:33:29
Felicia Devine
It's natural substances. So it's substances from nature diluted down.
00:33:32
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:33:33
Felicia Devine
And so,
00:33:33
Natalie Richards
Diluted down to the hundred thousandth power, you cannot take too much.
00:33:36
Felicia Devine
yeah, it's very diluted.
00:33:40
Natalie Richards
You also can't, there are no side effects.
00:33:41
Felicia Devine
It's no, no. And
00:33:44
Natalie Richards
There, there is not a side effect.
00:33:46
Felicia Devine
All of the homeopathy is safe for pregnancy. I mean, i probably wouldn't do a parasite homeopathy when I was pregnant, but like if we're talking like in the grand scheme of things that are and like readily consumable, you go to your local food store, health food store, they're going to have the little blue bottles.
00:33:51
Natalie Richards
No, no, no, no, no. no
00:33:57
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:34:01
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:34:04
Felicia Devine
um Is it Boreon? How do you say it?
00:34:07
Natalie Richards
I say Boiron.
00:34:08
Felicia Devine
Boiron?
00:34:09
Natalie Richards
but ah it That's probably not what it is. There's also Alois.
00:34:11
Felicia Devine
And they're these little...
00:34:13
Natalie Richards
There's like all kinds of, a law whatever.
00:34:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:15
Natalie Richards
I don't know.
00:34:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah. So they they're they're these little blue vials. They kind of look like the size of a chapstick and they have sugar pellets in them.
00:34:20
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:22
Felicia Devine
And those sugar pellets are then rolled in the hyper, hyper, hyper diluted solution.
00:34:27
Natalie Richards
yep
00:34:28
Felicia Devine
And you take a couple of those every 15 minutes and it's safe for pregnancy.
00:34:31
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:34:32
Felicia Devine
So you could do a
00:34:33
Natalie Richards
it's either going to It's either going to work or it's not.
00:34:35
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:34:35
Natalie Richards
There's no downside.
00:34:37
Felicia Devine
Yeah. And so you could you could dabble in a little bit of homeopathy for fever reduction and feel confident that you're not over-inundating your liver, that you're not passing anything through the placenta.
00:34:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:34:48
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:34:49
Felicia Devine
Like it truly is very low risk when we're talking about like how do you manage symptoms?
00:34:53
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:34:56
Felicia Devine
Again, this is not like tracing it back to why we're having it. It's like when you're having it, how do we manage symptoms?
00:34:59
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:35:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:02
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep. It's truly just a symptom management when when it's necessary.
00:35:06
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:08
Natalie Richards
It's not a preventative.
00:35:08
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:35:09
Natalie Richards
it's not a That's not what it's there for.
00:35:11
Felicia Devine
Also, homeopathy is quote unquote over the counter. You can just go to the store and purchase it.
00:35:14
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:35:17
Felicia Devine
Like it's easily accessible for most people. That's why I'm kind of getting at this.
00:35:19
Natalie Richards
Have it. Yeah. Have it for when you need it.
00:35:21
Felicia Devine
It's like I just stock up our quote unquote medicine cabinet in advance.
00:35:26
Natalie Richards
yep
00:35:26
Felicia Devine
I know what season's coming and I'm like, okay, so I think I'm going to need like some more saline nasal flushes. I think I'm going to want like X, y and Z.
00:35:32
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:35:34
Felicia Devine
Get it before you need it
00:35:35
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:35:36
Felicia Devine
I did that with like, I crazily did that with COVID.
00:35:36
Natalie Richards
I'm...
00:35:39
Felicia Devine
I got Ivermectin.
00:35:40
Natalie Richards
and I did too.
00:35:42
Felicia Devine
I got nebulizers.
00:35:43
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:35:44
Felicia Devine
I got um Apex water. i did all I made myself a COVID kit, a quercetin, all the things.
00:35:50
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:35:52
Felicia Devine
I made each kit for every household that was in my like immediate circle.
00:35:56
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:35:57
Felicia Devine
Natalie, the day my ivermectin was prescribed or like my my prescription was ready, i got COVID.
00:36:04
Felicia Devine
I kid you not. But I had prepped in advance. i I put in the work before I was sick.
00:36:04
Natalie Richards
Of course.
00:36:09
Natalie Richards
That's exactly what you have to do.
00:36:10
Felicia Devine
And I reaped the benefits.
00:36:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Because you want to have what you need when you need it.
00:36:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:36:14
Natalie Richards
And when you're sick and you need it, and that's what homeopathy is, in those acute situations, that's when you use homeopathy.
00:36:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:36:18
Felicia Devine
It's too late. Yes. Yes.
00:36:23
Felicia Devine
yes
00:36:23
Natalie Richards
If you have a chronic condition, you have to actually see homeopath for constitutional care what they say.
00:36:27
Felicia Devine
Homeopathy. Yeah.
00:36:31
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:36:31
Natalie Richards
is what they say
00:36:32
Felicia Devine
Constitutional care is chronic conditions that you're seeking homeopathy care for.
00:36:35
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:36:35
Felicia Devine
When we're talking about acute symptom relief and acute um like symptom management, we're talking over-the-counter homeopathy, first aid kits.
00:36:44
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:36:45
Felicia Devine
like I have a first aid kit. You have a first aid kit.
00:36:47
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:36:47
Felicia Devine
um But again, like I also have the Borean. I shove in my purse if I need it.
00:36:51
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:36:52
Felicia Devine
um So yeah, homeopathy is great for babies, pregnant patients, or pregnant people. Sorry.
00:36:59
Natalie Richards
Everybody.
00:37:00
Felicia Devine
I'm like, I call everybody a patient.
00:37:01
Natalie Richards
and Everybody's a patient.
00:37:03
Felicia Devine
Everyone's a patient of mine. and um Okay.
00:37:05
Natalie Richards
I will also say yes needed, like if something was getting really high, then I would start doing like colloidal silver or like a antibiotic alternative than at that point.
00:37:12
Felicia Devine
yeah Yeah. Okay.
00:37:19
Natalie Richards
Because then like your body's really start, it's trying to fight something, you know?
00:37:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:37:24
Natalie Richards
so like give giving some other things that could maybe help to kill off that particular bug, I think is is warranted at that point.
00:37:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:33
Felicia Devine
There's two
00:37:33
Natalie Richards
I'm always giving herbs, but yeah.
00:37:34
Felicia Devine
i know of Yeah. I love herbs. There's two I really like um that are safe for kids and adults, both from Earthly. um Feel better fast.
00:37:44
Natalie Richards
Yes. Love it for everything.
00:37:45
Felicia Devine
Tincture. ceppi
00:37:47
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:37:47
Felicia Devine
Seppy knows. like I'm like, OK, time for some medicine. If he's feeling a little bit like, ooh, I don't know, or he's having a really tough day, and I'm like, OK, he needs a little boost.
00:37:54
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:37:55
Felicia Devine
so Feel better fast. And then they also have an immune biotic.
00:37:59
Natalie Richards
yep
00:37:59
Felicia Devine
um And it's kind of like a nature's antibiotic, if you will.
00:38:03
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yep.
00:38:04
Felicia Devine
Um, but what, is there any herb that you like?
00:38:09
Natalie Richards
um I typically, anything with echinacea, which the Feel Better Fast has echinacea, I'll usually do an echinacea T along with it, something that has that.
00:38:13
Felicia Devine
Yeah. huh
00:38:17
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:18
Natalie Richards
I think that's really powerful for bacteria and virus, um which is funny because my grandma always was like, all right, take your echinacea.
00:38:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:38:27
Natalie Richards
And I'm like, what?
00:38:27
Felicia Devine
Dude, if you've ever taken echinacea straight, standard process would just rip shots at us at all those seminars.
00:38:30
Natalie Richards
oh
00:38:32
Natalie Richards
oh Oh, my gosh.
00:38:37
Felicia Devine
I'm like, keep getting trapped into these echinacea shots and my throat is completely numb.
00:38:37
Natalie Richards
It's horrible. I know. or they'd tell you to take the capsule or like the pill and suck on it for a little bit to really get the to really taste the alkaloids or whatever the heck is in the echinacea.
00:38:46
Felicia Devine
hu Oh, I've never done that.
00:38:52
Felicia Devine
Oh, goodbye. Good night.
00:38:54
Natalie Richards
Holy cow. And then your whole mouth is numb.
00:38:55
Felicia Devine
No, thanks. Yeah. And I'm like, is this so ah the first time I tried echinacea liquid?
00:38:57
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:38:59
Natalie Richards
I got a weird, is this okay?
00:39:01
Felicia Devine
I literally it was like, I think I'm allergic because I thought my throat was closing.
00:39:04
Natalie Richards
That's what it feels like.
00:39:05
Felicia Devine
It feels like you're having an allergic reaction. And it's like, no, that's what it's doing.
00:39:09
Natalie Richards
But the other, like the feel better fast has a very little amount.
00:39:12
Felicia Devine
Well, yeah, like Sepp loves it.
00:39:13
Natalie Richards
You wouldn't even know.
00:39:14
Felicia Devine
You would never know.
00:39:14
Natalie Richards
Jean takes it all the time.
00:39:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:17
Natalie Richards
I love, i love the propolis sprays, Beekeepers Naturals Propolis.
00:39:19
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:39:21
Natalie Richards
I love those.
00:39:22
Felicia Devine
i stay away from propolis because I'm allergic to bees.
00:39:25
Natalie Richards
Oh, okay.
00:39:26
Felicia Devine
And they just kind of say like be a little weary.
00:39:26
Natalie Richards
Smart. Just be cautious.
00:39:29
Felicia Devine
yeah And I feel like the only time I would take propolis is if I was already like a little bit compromised.
00:39:30
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:39:34
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:39:34
Felicia Devine
So I just worry that with some compromised immune and then I'm taking propolis, I'm like, so I stay away from But I gave Danny propolis cough drops the other day.
00:39:37
Natalie Richards
Hmm.
00:39:41
Natalie Richards
Maybe not.
00:39:45
Natalie Richards
Yeah. I love those.
00:39:45
Felicia Devine
He was having like a little bit of a sore throat and I handed him some honey propolis.
00:39:48
Natalie Richards
They're so good. Yep. I love beekeepers naturals.
00:39:51
Felicia Devine
What is it? be each Beekeepers natural? Yeah.
00:39:54
Natalie Richards
hu
00:39:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:39:55
Natalie Richards
I love thieves oil.
00:39:56
Felicia Devine
Oh, yeah.
00:39:56
Natalie Richards
I diffuse that all over the place. My aunt also would tell me she would put a drop on her thumb and stick it at the top of her mouth.
00:39:58
Felicia Devine
Yep.
00:40:05
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:05
Natalie Richards
And I was like, it tastes disgusting.
00:40:08
Felicia Devine
Thieves.
00:40:08
Natalie Richards
um
00:40:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:09
Natalie Richards
but no, no, no, no.
00:40:09
Felicia Devine
Not the cleaner. Don't stick the cleaner. Just the pure essential oil.
00:40:13
Natalie Richards
Pure oil. Just if you're sick. I mean, it's it's just another thing.
00:40:16
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:40:16
Natalie Richards
So if if there's anything going around, like I'm doing it, I'm doing all of it.
00:40:16
Felicia Devine
It's just tip little tips, little tricks. Mm-hmm.
00:40:22
Felicia Devine
I like to do um colloidal nasal spray if I'm exposed to somebody who's really sick.
00:40:22
Natalie Richards
um
00:40:25
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:40:28
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:40:29
Felicia Devine
If I know I'm going in an airplane.
00:40:29
Natalie Richards
If you're on an airplane, Yes.
00:40:31
Felicia Devine
Oh, when I hit that sky, those nasal drops come out.
00:40:34
Natalie Richards
Yep. Even um I'll do like a combo. There's a xylitol propolis herbal that I like. Again, beekeepers naturals.
00:40:42
Felicia Devine
Nasal spray? Okay. Okay.
00:40:45
Natalie Richards
um Anything with xylitol will clear the nasal passageways and actually kill Xylitol will kill bacteria and virus before it gets to the rest of your body.
00:40:53
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:40:56
Felicia Devine
Whoa.
00:40:57
Natalie Richards
So nasal sprays are, e well, xylitol, yeah, but like a saline spray you can do with babies if you want to.
00:40:57
Felicia Devine
I'm sure there's an age limit to that, right?
00:41:02
Felicia Devine
Like, yeah, I do say Elaine.
00:41:06
Natalie Richards
So like saline in general, you're going to be flushing.
00:41:09
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:41:09
Natalie Richards
Whatever comes into contact in your sinuses, flush it out before your body has a chance to even even react to it.
00:41:18
Felicia Devine
Do you guys all remember when you were little and your mom was like, oh, you have a sore throat, go go gargle salt water?
00:41:24
Natalie Richards
Yes. Gargle salt water. And I was like, no, I don't want to.
00:41:25
Felicia Devine
Okay, that's saline. That's saline. So when you're shooting saline up your nose, you're clearing and and flushing out those tissues and it's antimicrobial.
00:41:32
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:41:35
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:41:36
Felicia Devine
So like, yeah.
00:41:36
Natalie Richards
It's just like a good a good practice. Every once in a while, few times a week, just do something.
00:41:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:42
Natalie Richards
um the But then, yeah, the silver, i like do i like the ACS 200 nasal spray, colloidal silver nasal spray, because it's
00:41:52
Felicia Devine
Oh, I just use the um the normal one. ah
00:41:56
Natalie Richards
The sovereign silver?
00:41:57
Felicia Devine
Sovereign Silver.
00:41:57
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And that's just silver, which is fine.
00:41:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:00
Natalie Richards
um i The other one, ACS Clinical or ACS 200.
00:42:00
Felicia Devine
What's the brand you like?
00:42:05
Felicia Devine
What's in it? Is that the one with Zylitol?
00:42:07
Natalie Richards
That one doesn't, I don't think has that at all. Let me look. It has herbs in it too. So I really like that one if you're really trying to kill stuff.
00:42:15
Felicia Devine
Oh, cool. Yeah.
00:42:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:42:19
Natalie Richards
Like if you have a sinus infection or you have um anything more than just like you're trying to just clear your sinuses
Alternative Pain Management
00:42:28
Natalie Richards
out, it kills stuff.
00:42:28
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:31
Natalie Richards
Silver nasal.
00:42:33
Felicia Devine
I'm just going to beat a dead horse.
00:42:35
Felicia Devine
You guys have to, you have to purchase all of this in advance.
00:42:35
Natalie Richards
Please.
00:42:39
Natalie Richards
You have to.
00:42:40
Felicia Devine
This is not like i have a sinus infection. Now what? This is like, okay, this is my medicine cabinet.
00:42:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah. You need to have it.
00:42:47
Felicia Devine
And these are the things I have like, um, like clear tubs and I have like cold flu.
00:42:53
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:42:53
Felicia Devine
i have allergy. i have them all labeled out. And then I have all our remedies in each one.
00:42:55
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:42:58
Felicia Devine
And it's like when, when step has something, I'm like, okay, I'm going to go to this department of my medicine cabinet and see what we have and see how we can help them.
00:43:04
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:43:06
Felicia Devine
Cause at two a m you're not, you're not ordering something.
00:43:07
Natalie Richards
Yep. No, you don't want to think. You don't want... No. And you don't even...
00:43:11
Felicia Devine
And that that's why people reach for Tylenol because they don't they're not prepared yeah they're not prepared with alternatives.
00:43:14
Natalie Richards
right. They don't know what to do.
00:43:19
Natalie Richards
Right. I have something for everything.
00:43:20
Felicia Devine
Alternatives, yeah.
00:43:23
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:24
Natalie Richards
There's not ailment on the planet that I don't have something for.
00:43:28
Felicia Devine
We also have an opinion for everything.
00:43:30
Natalie Richards
True.
00:43:31
Felicia Devine
That's kind of our personalities. We have something for everything, whether it's an opinion or an herb.
00:43:33
Natalie Richards
Something for everything. Also, if anyone neat wants like a list of what, like I have a running list of like what I would keep in
00:43:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. In our medicine cabinets.
00:43:43
Natalie Richards
in our medicine cabinet for any sort of thing. Let me know.
00:43:47
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:43:48
Natalie Richards
I'll send it to you.
00:43:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Let us know. We will um send you a PDF of our medicine cabinet.
00:43:53
Natalie Richards
Yep. Yep.
00:43:55
Felicia Devine
Love it.
00:43:55
Natalie Richards
Cause that, it, it just helps. I actually give it every time I go to a, every time I go to a baby shower.
00:43:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:06
Felicia Devine
Do you give a medicine box?
00:44:07
Natalie Richards
I print sometimes depending on the person, depending on the person, if I think they're going to use it.
00:44:09
Felicia Devine
Oh, cute. Yeah. They have to be ready to receive. Yeah.
00:44:13
Natalie Richards
Yeah. But I'll print out my list because it's just like helpful because half the time for little babies, infants, there's nothing you can give an infant
00:44:16
Felicia Devine
That's cute.
00:44:20
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:44:26
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:44:27
Natalie Richards
if they're sick, except for homeopathy and vitamin D drops like there's and saline.
00:44:28
Felicia Devine
Right. Homeopathy. Yep. And saline.
00:44:34
Natalie Richards
Yeah. like That's it.
00:44:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:36
Natalie Richards
So it's nice to have maybe like a couple more options.
00:44:39
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:39
Natalie Richards
So I have on the list, like what can you take give to a one-month-old? What can you give to under six months months old?
00:44:46
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:46
Natalie Richards
What can you give past six months old?
00:44:48
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:48
Natalie Richards
So there's a lot.
00:44:49
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:44:49
Natalie Richards
Okay. The ACS nasal spray, the okay.
00:44:50
Felicia Devine
Oh, I love that. Yeah.
00:44:53
Natalie Richards
The brand is results. RNA is what it is. so It has the silver. it has quercetin, elderberry, chamomile, echinacea, and rose hips.
00:45:03
Felicia Devine
Ooh, cute.
00:45:04
Natalie Richards
So it's a good, it's like a good herbal with silver.
00:45:08
Felicia Devine
I'm going to have to add that to to my list because we're we're coming up on ah season of which...
00:45:11
Natalie Richards
I like that one.
00:45:16
Felicia Devine
We call cold and flu season.
00:45:17
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:45:18
Felicia Devine
um More importantly, it's a season of inflammation.
00:45:23
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:45:23
Felicia Devine
We are inundated with inflammation from holiday drinks, holiday parties, holiday treats, holiday candies, holiday baked goods.
00:45:29
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:31
Felicia Devine
And we're stressing we're stressing our body.
00:45:31
Natalie Richards
Stress. ah
00:45:33
Felicia Devine
And that stress is coming in the form of things we put in and around our body, the smells, like the candles, the
00:45:33
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:39
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm. Oh, the chemicals.
00:45:41
Felicia Devine
all the scents of the holiday, the chemicals we're exposed to, ah baked goods, the alcohol, all that, which reduces our immune response.
00:45:45
Natalie Richards
Oh.
00:45:50
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:45:51
Felicia Devine
And then we're getting sick.
00:45:51
Natalie Richards
ah and and the change in temperature.
00:45:54
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:45:55
Natalie Richards
The change in season is really, at least from like a Chinese medicine perspective, that's what creates sickness.
00:45:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. It's hard. Yeah.
00:46:02
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Oh, speaking of Chinese. So again, like if you're sick, trying to take preventative measures, warm fluids in the body are known by the Chinese medicine practitioners and like people who practice that to absorb moisture in the body and dry quote unquote dry it out.
00:46:04
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:46:12
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:46:16
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:46:22
Natalie Richards
yeah
00:46:22
Felicia Devine
um So warm sipping broths, warm teas, warm soups, stay away from cold things.
00:46:24
Natalie Richards
yep
00:46:27
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:46:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:30
Natalie Richards
Herbs work better also when they are warmed.
00:46:30
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:33
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:46:33
Natalie Richards
So they –
00:46:34
Felicia Devine
It also makes sense. Like you don't crave salad when you're sick.
00:46:37
Natalie Richards
So true. Yep. Exactly.
00:46:39
Felicia Devine
You're craving a cup of bone broth.
00:46:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:46:42
Felicia Devine
Well, I am at least.
00:46:46
Felicia Devine
And so we want to, the goal is to reduce moisture in the body to like, yeah.
00:46:46
Natalie Richards
um i
00:46:49
Natalie Richards
yeah yeah
00:46:50
Felicia Devine
So warmth.
00:46:51
Natalie Richards
I also want to say the classic like old school chiropractor technique for fevers or what they would give was calcium lactate.
00:46:59
Felicia Devine
Yeah. How do you take that? What is that?
00:47:03
Natalie Richards
it' and It's like a pill. Standard process makes it.
00:47:04
Felicia Devine
Is it?
00:47:05
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:06
Felicia Devine
Oh.
00:47:06
Natalie Richards
And that's like a classic fever remedy.
00:47:09
Felicia Devine
Really?
00:47:10
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:10
Felicia Devine
I've never heard of it.
00:47:11
Natalie Richards
Calcium lactate. So that's safe for pregnancy also.
00:47:12
Felicia Devine
Wow.
00:47:15
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:47:15
Natalie Richards
And that's a really good one.
00:47:16
Felicia Devine
Okay. And you can get that from standard process?
00:47:18
Natalie Richards
ah Yeah, I'm sure there's other ones too, but off the top of my head.
00:47:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. um All right. So that's fevers. Let's touch on pain. let's Because like the whole premise, the the big umbrella picture is that we're trying to provide an alternative for pregnant people and and kids from taking acetaminophen slash Tylenol that is quote unquote supposed to help reduce fever and help with pain.
00:47:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:47:36
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:47:43
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:47:44
Felicia Devine
So what are we doing what are we doing these days for pain to prevent the pain but also stop the pain?
00:47:48
Natalie Richards
Right.
00:47:50
Natalie Richards
oh
00:47:52
Felicia Devine
Keyword, prevent the pain.
00:47:54
Natalie Richards
Prevent the pain. Prevent the issue.
00:47:55
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Prevent the issue.
00:47:57
Natalie Richards
ah Nourish your body so it can heal properly.
00:48:00
Felicia Devine
yeah
00:48:01
Natalie Richards
um Get adjusted, please.
00:48:04
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:48:05
Natalie Richards
It's just like at this point, I don't know.
00:48:08
Felicia Devine
I know.
00:48:09
Felicia Devine
i know. know.
00:48:09
Natalie Richards
i
00:48:10
Natalie Richards
what Like, come on. Like, if your body hurts you, figure out why.
00:48:14
Felicia Devine
Get adjusted.
00:48:15
Natalie Richards
Like, get adjusted.
00:48:15
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:48:17
Natalie Richards
Start there.
00:48:17
Felicia Devine
hey Now, if you're not familiar, chiropractors have um specialties. There's a specialty in prenatal chiropractic.
00:48:26
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:48:26
Felicia Devine
um It's called the Webster certification. You can find a chiropractor in and around your area through the Webster um certification and ICPA.
00:48:35
Natalie Richards
The ICPA. Yeah.
00:48:36
Felicia Devine
I mean, if you won't remember that. But if you type in like Webster chiropractor near me, there's a database of Webster certified chiropractors that will pop up in your zip code.
00:48:38
Natalie Richards
No.
00:48:41
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:48:47
Felicia Devine
um
00:48:47
Natalie Richards
Yeah. And for the most part, they at least have done extra training.
00:48:50
Felicia Devine
It's yeah, exactly.
00:48:53
Natalie Richards
At least one class of extra training.
00:48:54
Felicia Devine
Yes. Check their website. Their website should jive with like prenatal and pediatric family-based chiropractic.
00:48:56
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:48:59
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:49:01
Felicia Devine
If they don't maybe find someone else.
00:49:04
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:49:04
Felicia Devine
Um, but yeah, there are so many options.
00:49:05
Natalie Richards
There are so many options for for pain in pregnancy. Like you don't have to – you do not have to deal with it. No.
00:49:12
Felicia Devine
No. And you also don't have to resort to Tylenol. There are so many alternatives.
00:49:14
Natalie Richards
No. Yep.
00:49:17
Felicia Devine
Um,
00:49:17
Natalie Richards
So I like, I mean, Arnica is the classic.
00:49:20
Felicia Devine
Classic.
00:49:21
Natalie Richards
Arnica is, yeah I would say, and ah for bruising, like dermatologists use it at post, post like Botox injection.
00:49:21
Felicia Devine
It's pretty much like the most well-known homeopathy.
00:49:28
Felicia Devine
huh
00:49:31
Natalie Richards
They say, put some Arnica cream on or take Arnica and you won't bruise.
00:49:31
Felicia Devine
huh
00:49:34
Felicia Devine
That's ironic.
00:49:35
Natalie Richards
That's the gateway. It's the gateway for people to be aware of homeopathy is Arnica post Botox.
00:49:38
Felicia Devine
i
00:49:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:49:43
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:49:44
Felicia Devine
That's crazy.
00:49:45
Natalie Richards
which is just so funny.
00:49:45
Felicia Devine
The irony of that.
00:49:47
Natalie Richards
It's so funny. So there's so many like dermatologists or injectors I've talked to and I will say something about homeopathy and say like, oh yeah, Arnica or whatever.
00:49:57
Natalie Richards
And they go, oh yeah, Arnica use all the time.
00:49:58
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:50:01
Natalie Richards
like yeah, that's homeopathy. Welcome.
00:50:03
Felicia Devine
Welcome.
00:50:03
Natalie Richards
Welcome to being a holistic practitioner.
00:50:05
Felicia Devine
yeah After you inject your you're patient with pure poison, here, rub some Arnica on it.
00:50:14
Natalie Richards
So funny. and um
00:50:15
Felicia Devine
Love it. We love a good moment.
00:50:16
Natalie Richards
So that's, Arnica is more for like a deep healing, um bruising,
00:50:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:50:24
Natalie Richards
lacer maybe a laceration. Anything that requires like tissue healing is really what Arnica is for.
00:50:29
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:50:32
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:50:33
Natalie Richards
Not necessarily for like generalized pain or headaches or something like that.
00:50:38
Felicia Devine
Mm-mm. Because typically people are using Arnica in the most used forms as a cream or a gel.
00:50:44
Natalie Richards
Right. So like it can be like probably
Self-Observation and Natural Healing
00:50:48
Natalie Richards
helpful for arthritis too a little bit, like if it's a a lower dilution.
00:50:50
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:50:53
Natalie Richards
um So that's an option for for general pain, I suppose, but typically it's for something that requires healing.
00:50:57
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:51:01
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:51:02
Natalie Richards
Then we have like hypericum, which would be more of like a nervy pain, at least from my understanding of it.
00:51:05
Felicia Devine
Yep. Okay.
00:51:12
Felicia Devine
I also, I believe I use hypericum and stomach bugs, right?
00:51:16
Natalie Richards
and Possibly.
00:51:18
Felicia Devine
Cause it's like extreme stomach pain, right?
00:51:20
Natalie Richards
Possibly, yes. Yeah, it's more of like a um a sharper pain.
00:51:25
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:51:26
Natalie Richards
Hypericum would be like a sharp
00:51:26
Felicia Devine
Okay. Yeah.
00:51:28
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:51:28
Natalie Richards
That's the the characteristic of it. So you can use it for a lot of different types of things, but that's like if it's sharpness, shooting, whatever, like that would be hypercom.
00:51:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:33
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:51:41
Natalie Richards
um Nettle, stinging nettle, like in a tea or a tincture is incredible for pain.
00:51:44
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yes. Mm-hmm.
00:51:49
Natalie Richards
And that's general pain, headaches, bone pain, whatever, whatever it may be.
00:51:54
Felicia Devine
Yep. Yep.
00:51:57
Natalie Richards
I'm trying to think.
00:51:57
Felicia Devine
Nettle tea is a common ah common recommendation in pregnancy.
00:52:01
Natalie Richards
Yeah. Yeah. That one is like stinging nettle.
00:52:03
Felicia Devine
Stinging nettle tea.
00:52:04
Natalie Richards
That one's really, really powerful actually.
00:52:06
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:52:07
Natalie Richards
Works really well.
00:52:08
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:52:08
Natalie Richards
um Not necessarily for pregnancy, but if we're having any sort of like arthritic pain, don't sleep on the nicotine patch.
00:52:15
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:52:18
Felicia Devine
Oh, we start going
00:52:19
Natalie Richards
Coming back.
00:52:20
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:52:21
Natalie Richards
Coming back.
00:52:22
Felicia Devine
I didn't know you were going to drop that on us, Natalie.
00:52:24
Natalie Richards
I know.
00:52:24
Felicia Devine
Yeah, the nicotine patch.
00:52:24
Natalie Richards
I'm sorry.
00:52:26
Felicia Devine
Do you want a little anecdotal story?
00:52:28
Natalie Richards
Yeah, I do.
00:52:29
Felicia Devine
Dan had mommy's wrist and it's now gone.
00:52:32
Natalie Richards
Oh my gosh.
00:52:33
Felicia Devine
But I will say we were doing red light therapy, nicotine and adjustments and CBD cream.
00:52:35
Natalie Richards
You were doing a lot. h
00:52:39
Felicia Devine
But the nicotine was like a daily thing for Dan. Like he was is wearing a daily nicotine patch.
00:52:44
Natalie Richards
Yep. And you can like put a patch right on the area of pain too.
00:52:49
Felicia Devine
Yes. His wouldn't stick.
00:52:50
Natalie Richards
Just FYI. Yeah.
00:52:51
Felicia Devine
His wouldn't stick because he was hairy.
00:52:51
Natalie Richards
I know it's hard. Yeah.
00:52:53
Felicia Devine
But still, he would put it on that side of his body.
00:52:55
Natalie Richards
so
00:52:57
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:52:57
Natalie Richards
So that's another option. um What do you have for pain besides what we just said?
00:53:02
Felicia Devine
Pain. Um, ooh,
00:53:04
Natalie Richards
Depends on where it's coming from.
00:53:06
Felicia Devine
I guess so. So it's, yeah, I think we need to do, again, observation and diligence. I think we need to check in with with ourselves.
00:53:12
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:53:15
Felicia Devine
Do we have hip pain because of the chair we're sitting in when we're pregnant? If it's not supportive, if it's too squishy, are we working from home and sitting in a deep set couch that's like sucking us in?
00:53:27
Felicia Devine
your body is going to ache. It's going to be just miserable if you're not supporting it.
00:53:31
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:53:33
Felicia Devine
So typically a firmer surface, one with more support.
00:53:37
Felicia Devine
um I'm looking at it for but like, ah how can we switch your ergonomics? How can we switch your lifestyle to reduce the gas pedal, right?
00:53:37
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:53:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:53:47
Felicia Devine
The gas pedal is like, why do we have the pain?
00:53:47
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:53:49
Felicia Devine
And then from there, we can do more of the things that you and I had just talked about.
00:53:53
Natalie Richards
Exactly.
00:53:53
Felicia Devine
um Like supportive methods.
00:53:53
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:53:54
Felicia Devine
But I love brainstorming with a patient on why.
00:53:59
Natalie Richards
Agreed.
00:53:59
Felicia Devine
Like why do we have the pain?
00:53:59
Natalie Richards
Like there's always a reason. Sorry. There always is.
00:54:02
Felicia Devine
There's always a reason. Again, seek a chiropractor. If your hips are aching you every single day, your pelvis – no, it's not normal.
00:54:05
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:54:08
Natalie Richards
That's not normal. That's not...
00:54:10
Felicia Devine
Pregnancy should not hurt.
00:54:11
Natalie Richards
No.
00:54:12
Felicia Devine
You should not be in pain.
00:54:14
Natalie Richards
No, that is not normal.
00:54:16
Felicia Devine
That is not normal.
00:54:16
Natalie Richards
There's something going on.
00:54:18
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:54:18
Natalie Richards
Whether it's a pelvic floor therapist you need, whether it's a chiropractor, whether it's whatever, maybe you need to stop doing something you're doing for a little bit.
00:54:21
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:54:25
Felicia Devine
okay Right. Right.
00:54:28
Natalie Richards
Maybe you need to look at the way you're getting in and out of your vehicle.
00:54:31
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:54:32
Natalie Richards
That's a huge one.
00:54:34
Felicia Devine
It's a huge one.
00:54:34
Natalie Richards
Anytime you're like opening up and splaying your pelvis can be causing instability and pain.
00:54:40
Felicia Devine
i have I've talked with a couple of patients recently about carrying a toddler up and down a staircase while you're pregnant.
00:54:46
Natalie Richards
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:54:49
Felicia Devine
Screech.
00:54:49
Natalie Richards
On the same side every time.
00:54:51
Felicia Devine
Every time.
00:54:51
Natalie Richards
Same side.
00:54:52
Felicia Devine
Oftentimes resulting in a breech baby because the breech baby is being shoved on the other side of the belly and won't flip.
00:54:55
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:54:59
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:55:00
Felicia Devine
um So if you have a toddler and you can help create independence of them going up and down the stairs by themselves, yeah, it's going to take longer.
00:55:08
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:55:08
Felicia Devine
But at what expense? Are you going to be in chronic pain because you can't be bothered to wait another two minutes to go up and down a staircase?
00:55:10
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:55:18
Natalie Richards
I know we have to make smart decisions,
00:55:19
Felicia Devine
I'm sorry. i'm the I'm not being very empathetic right now. bye
00:55:24
Natalie Richards
but it's true.
00:55:24
Felicia Devine
But I'm very passionate about diligence.
00:55:24
Natalie Richards
so
00:55:27
Felicia Devine
I'm very passionate about observation.
00:55:27
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:55:28
Felicia Devine
And I think we need to do a ah better job of encouraging our mothers and encouraging ourselves to observe.
00:55:35
Natalie Richards
yeah I think we've and we've become so disconnected to like something is causing this.
00:55:35
Felicia Devine
We stopped observing.
00:55:39
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:55:41
Natalie Richards
We don't pay attention.
00:55:42
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:55:43
Natalie Richards
So there is a reason for everything.
00:55:43
Felicia Devine
No.
00:55:46
Natalie Richards
Just take a moment, think about what you're doing,
00:55:47
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:55:50
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:55:50
Natalie Richards
Think about your environment.
00:55:52
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm.
00:55:53
Natalie Richards
There's probably something that you could change that would help with what you're doing.
00:55:55
Felicia Devine
Yes. Yes.
00:55:56
Natalie Richards
But we're so we're so used to being able to just reach for something fix our ailment that we don't ever we don't ever try to actually fix the problem.
00:55:57
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:56:02
Felicia Devine
Mm-hmm. Yes.
00:56:07
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:56:08
Natalie Richards
And it's infuriating.
00:56:10
Felicia Devine
Now, I will say in the event that you're in a work environment. Okay. Let's give an example. um You're a nurse. You work 12-hour shifts and you're eight months pregnant.
00:56:17
Natalie Richards
Okay, fine.
00:56:18
Felicia Devine
Okay.
00:56:18
Natalie Richards
So roll a belt.
00:56:19
Felicia Devine
So yes, you're going to use a supportive device, whether that be a supportive garment, um, which a belly band, um, I like compression shorts that are specific to pregnancy.
00:56:22
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:56:26
Natalie Richards
A belly band of whatever. Yeah.
00:56:31
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:56:32
Felicia Devine
Um, I had those, um, a sorola belt, which is going to help support the pelvis and the sacrum, um, and the hips.
00:56:37
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:56:39
Felicia Devine
Um, you're going to get your, you're going to evaluate what kind of shoes you're wearing.
00:56:43
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:56:44
Felicia Devine
Okay. You're going to evaluate if they're beat to shreds or if they're too supportive or like, I don't want to say too supportive, but like if they're not the right shoe and you're standing for 12 hours, you're going to be in a world to hurt.
00:56:55
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:56:58
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:56:58
Felicia Devine
um Again, hydration.
00:57:00
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:57:01
Felicia Devine
Are we hydrated? If our tissues are dehydrated, they become beef jerky.
00:57:04
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:57:06
Felicia Devine
I tell that to all my pediatric kids.
00:57:08
Natalie Richards
I love it.
00:57:08
Felicia Devine
I'm like, have you ever eaten beef jerky? And they're like, yeah. I'm like, you're beef jerky. You drink one cup of water a day. Like, hello? Like, I can purchase you at this store for $10.99.
00:57:20
Natalie Richards
I'm going to use that.
00:57:21
Felicia Devine
Like, dehydrated tissue is beef jerky.
00:57:22
Natalie Richards
I'm going to use it.
00:57:25
Natalie Richards
h
00:57:25
Felicia Devine
So if we drink water, we can fight so many pain pain signals.
00:57:29
Natalie Richards
So many.
00:57:31
Felicia Devine
So many.
00:57:31
Natalie Richards
It sounds insane that really it's like, did you drink water today?
00:57:34
Felicia Devine
Is it that simple? Is it, i could I be a life coach?
00:57:36
Natalie Richards
But like, there's a lot.
00:57:38
Felicia Devine
Drink more water.
00:57:40
Natalie Richards
There's so many things. We have to do a water episode still.
00:57:42
Felicia Devine
Yeah, we do. We have so many things we have to talk about.
00:57:44
Natalie Richards
I know it's on the docket. It's so many things.
00:57:47
Felicia Devine
Okay. So, okay.
00:57:48
Natalie Richards
Okay.
00:57:48
Felicia Devine
So again, the nurse, the shoes, the supportive garment, the hydration, the nutrition, nutrition, nutrition, nutrition.
00:57:55
Natalie Richards
Yes.
00:57:56
Felicia Devine
You need to be eating enough protein. You need to be eating enough fat. You need to be getting your electrolytes in.
00:58:00
Natalie Richards
You need to be eating connective tissue.
00:58:01
Felicia Devine
Like Yeah.
00:58:03
Natalie Richards
Hello, collagen, bone broth, meat cooked on the bone, please.
00:58:04
Felicia Devine
Hello.
00:58:09
Felicia Devine
Jelly. um Yeah. Like we we have to observe the fact that if our tissues are aching, what are they asking for? Are they asking for rest?
00:58:17
Natalie Richards
Yep.
00:58:18
Felicia Devine
Are they asking for
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00:58:19
Felicia Devine
nutrients? Are they asking for support? Are you mentally checked in or checked out?
00:58:25
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:58:26
Felicia Devine
What's going on?
00:58:26
Natalie Richards
Mm-hmm.
00:58:27
Felicia Devine
And I'm sorry, but Tylenol is not going to fix your problems.
00:58:29
Natalie Richards
No. Yes.
00:58:30
Felicia Devine
So we have to go back to the ground basics. We have to go back to the building blocks of what is our body asking for. And that's the same thing that goes for our children. What is our children's body asking for?
00:58:39
Natalie Richards
Yes. Yes.
00:58:40
Felicia Devine
How can we observe that? How can we best approach it that's going to support them and it's not going to diminish them?
00:58:46
Natalie Richards
Yep. Otherwise, you are doing yourself and your child a major disservice. Sorry.
00:58:51
Felicia Devine
We deserve better.
00:58:53
Natalie Richards
Yeah, we all do.
00:58:53
Felicia Devine
We deserve better.
00:58:54
Natalie Richards
We all can thrive.
00:58:56
Felicia Devine
It's crazy. i I just, I truly wish people were better ah observation.
00:59:02
Natalie Richards
i know.
00:59:03
Felicia Devine
And i i can't I can't say that more.
00:59:03
Natalie Richards
We have the ability. we have... but i know We can do more. Sorry.
00:59:09
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:59:10
Natalie Richards
we We have the options.
00:59:12
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:59:12
Natalie Richards
There are other things out there.
00:59:14
Felicia Devine
Yes.
00:59:14
Natalie Richards
If you open your eyeballs and say, no this is like old news.
00:59:18
Felicia Devine
And it's not political. I'm sorry.
00:59:22
Natalie Richards
I'm sorry. Like this isn't new.
00:59:22
Felicia Devine
Yeah. Not now.
00:59:25
Natalie Richards
There are so many other options out there.
00:59:27
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
00:59:28
Natalie Richards
So if you need handholding, this is the one area I will hold your hand.
00:59:30
Felicia Devine
Right.
00:59:32
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:59:32
Felicia Devine
Yes. i am I'm very passionate about the why.
00:59:36
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
00:59:36
Felicia Devine
And and that's, I think, what helps make a chiropractor a really good chiropractor
00:59:42
Natalie Richards
Yeah.
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00:59:42
Felicia Devine
is they're passionate about the why.
00:59:44
Felicia Devine
They're not just passionate about, oh, your low back hurts. Let me just like adjust that low back. It's why does your low back hurt? Yes, let's adjust you because obviously that's like our bread and butter.
00:59:52
Natalie Richards
Of course.
00:59:54
Felicia Devine
But how do we stop the cycle? Yeah.
00:59:57
Natalie Richards
Yep. We have to think better.
00:59:57
Felicia Devine
How do we stop the cycle of the that ear infections? How do we stop the cycle of the achy hips when we're pregnant?
01:00:03
Natalie Richards
Yep.
01:00:04
Felicia Devine
What are we doing?
01:00:05
Natalie Richards
Yep.
01:00:06
Felicia Devine
So that's my soapbox.
01:00:09
Natalie Richards
I'm with you.
01:00:10
Felicia Devine
I'm passionate.
01:00:10
Natalie Richards
I'm with you. This is great.
01:00:12
Felicia Devine
This is what would Natalie if we should do? Take one. Again, and edited so like this is this is just us spewing from the heart about like what is in our home and then we're trying to help encourage others to like open their eyes to have alternatives.
01:00:18
Natalie Richards
ah Medicine cabinet. Yep. Yep.
01:00:32
Natalie Richards
yep
01:00:34
Felicia Devine
I don't know.
01:00:35
Natalie Richards
yep
01:00:35
Felicia Devine
But like Trump said, I'm sorry, I have to. If you can't tough it out.
01:00:44
Felicia Devine
What was he doing? what was it
01:00:46
Natalie Richards
Oh my God. I can't.
01:00:47
Felicia Devine
if you can't if you can't tough it out, then take it, I guess. I'm like, oh gosh, the delivery.
01:00:52
Natalie Richards
The delivery. Oh goodness gracious.
01:00:55
Felicia Devine
So hopefully our delivery was a little bit more graceful, a little bit more, well, I say empathetic.
01:00:58
Natalie Richards
Oh, maybe.
01:01:01
Felicia Devine
I don't know. I could have been more empathetic, but I'm i'm highly passionate. And I really truly think that we can do better for ourselves and our children. And that's why Natalie and I are doing this podcast. It's really to just open everyone's like minds up to there are options and you can you can choose to be different.
01:01:16
Natalie Richards
Yep. We have all the power. And also you can choose to take Tylenol.
01:01:22
Felicia Devine
You can. my God. Newslash.
01:01:24
Natalie Richards
it's
01:01:24
Felicia Devine
It's stills ah still available for purchase at your nearest drugstore.
01:01:27
Natalie Richards
It's really like, okay, if you know all the all the info and you decide that you need to take it, then take it.
01:01:34
Felicia Devine
Yeah. It's your informed choice.
01:01:37
Natalie Richards
And you know what? it yeah that's okay.
01:01:41
Felicia Devine
Yeah. That's your choice.
01:01:43
Natalie Richards
It's your choice.
01:01:43
Felicia Devine
You're allowed to take it no one's telling you you can't take it.
01:01:43
Natalie Richards
All right.
01:01:45
Felicia Devine
We're just giving you options. if you're If you're just slightly questioning, huh, maybe shouldn't.
01:01:52
Natalie Richards
Right. I was going to say, i was going to say that you can take it and maybe your child won't get autism or maybe they will, but we don't know.
01:01:53
Felicia Devine
So
01:02:04
Felicia Devine
we don't know. and honestly, unless you use your own discretion, we can't help you.
01:02:10
Natalie Richards
We don't know. There's so many things that we don't know.
01:02:11
Felicia Devine
We don't know.
01:02:12
Natalie Richards
And that's science in general.
01:02:14
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:02:14
Natalie Richards
Like you have these studies that come out and you have
01:02:15
Felicia Devine
The point of science is that nothing is proven.
01:02:18
Natalie Richards
You have a new study that comes out and then you have this other one that contradicts that study. And then you have and then you have somebody who's who's funding another study that ah Right.
01:02:28
Felicia Devine
and then if you're the CDC, you can throw out data points and call it a study.
01:02:32
Natalie Richards
There's never a settling of science. That's not how works. is not settled there's never
01:02:37
Felicia Devine
no
01:02:38
Natalie Richards
there's never ah settling of science that's not science that's not how it works
01:02:41
Felicia Devine
No. The second somebody comes up with something in science, somebody else is out there to disprove it.
01:02:47
Natalie Richards
doing the other thing.
01:02:47
Felicia Devine
That is the point of science.
01:02:48
Natalie Richards
That's the whole point. So take in all the information. Don't rely on one study to make any decision.
01:02:58
Felicia Devine
know And Natalie and I are not a study.
01:02:59
Natalie Richards
Rely on and no
01:03:03
Felicia Devine
No study here.
01:03:04
Natalie Richards
oh So it's just, we don't know, but just maybe use a little caution and maybe like don't down an entire bottle of Tylenol while you're pregnant.
01:03:10
Felicia Devine
Yeah.
01:03:14
Natalie Richards
Okay. Okay.
01:03:14
Felicia Devine
yeah Yeah. Thanks.
01:03:16
Natalie Richards
Thank you. Bye.
01:03:17
Felicia Devine
right. We'll see you next week.