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Popowski’s Ghost Ships, Clayton Oliver’s blister, and Sam Flanders SZN feat. Stevie Fizz! | Round 14 AFL Fantasy #PODPOD
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The PODPOD crew are joined by avid salary cap enthusiast, Stevie Fizz, to discuss all the ins and outs of AFL Fantasy action as we approach the final bye-round!
The lads discuss some concerning news from cousin Popowski, whether it's finally time for Sam Flanders to shine, and we learn more about Harmey's fascination with Clarry's blister.
Plus, Dossy recaps his weekend equivalent of Div 12 Ressies action versus a beloved member of the PODPOD family...
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Transcript
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Introduction and Guest Introductions
00:00:19
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And welcome to the Pod Pod, it's your boy Darcy talking all things AFL fantasy on this Wednesday night, June 21st, 2023. As always, we've got a duo of two time top 10 finishes on board tonight. I'll introduce them first, cause we have a special guest coming up. But first of all, I'll introduce John Harmy, also a member of the AFL fantasy fanatics podcast. Harmy, welcome mate.
00:00:47
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Yes, thanks for having me, Doss, and just another guest appearance for the week. How was your week of fantasy footy? Give us a little bit of a rank and score update there.
00:00:58
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Oh look, I was probably a little bit disappointed but I still pumped out a 1.887 so I can't complain too much can I? My rank came in 400 spots based on that so I've just nudged inside the top 5000 but I fear I'm just a little bit disappointed because I had a running competition with a friend of mine who's
00:01:21
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ghosting us tonight, and he's nudged ahead of me now. I think he's overtaking me. So got a bit of work to do for the next 10 rounds, Dossie.
Fantasy Footy Performances
00:01:30
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A lot of work to get back there, uh, harm me. But we do have another member of another esteemed podcast, The Hat Chat. Uh, Holmesy mate, welcome on board and thanks for gracing us, kindly gracing us with your presence now that you've hit the big time. Yeah, thanks mate. I've finally moved up in the podcast world, but I'll tell you what, I'm super excited about the special guests we got on today. I'm not going to ruin it just yet, but
00:01:53
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They say you should never meet your heroes in person because they'll end up disappointing you and I have no doubt the special guest will fall right into that mould. That is incredibly rough, but I couldn't have done a better intro myself there. But as you know, now, based on that laugh, you probably know the voice already. But joining us this episode, it is a salary cap expert. Hates Draft just has a pure love for fantasy classic. It's Stevie Fears. Welcome, mate.
00:02:23
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Yeah, nah, cheers to us. It's good to finally make the full transition. Just get rid of the draught doctors and move into salary. Perfect.
00:02:32
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That's right, now there wouldn't be too many listeners not aware of the show, but Stevie Fears, of course you are the co-founder of the Draft Doctors podcast and the website and one of the OG fantasy podcast is going around. So right now though, you guys just having a couple of weeks off while the other lads basically aren't available. I heard you the other week, you did a solo podcast by yourself. Talk us through how hard, how challenging is that? Cause you went for 25 minutes. I thought it was an unbelievable effort and riveting listen despite being just a solo pod there mate.
00:03:00
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It's not fun. You really have to be very narcissistic to be able to attempt and then pull off something like that. So I got that in spades. It's not a lot of drama. No, you did an unreal job, man. And hopefully we get the draft doctors back sooner rather than later. Holmsey, I missed your score and rank there, though. Let's get a bit of an update
Fantasy Strategies and Challenges
00:03:18
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there first.
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Yeah, not too bad, Dossie. Pretty much par round for me, which I kind of thought was going to happen coming into this bar round as one of my weaker ones. So I had an 1840, probably pretty lucky to get there with how one of my players came home on Sunday Arvo, but this meant I think I slid back about 80 ranks to 8255. So pretty much par for the week and fingers crossed I can keep moving up through the buys.
00:03:43
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Now, I am interested in a score and rank update. Our first from Stevie Fizz from the season. Now, there was a lot of activity on the Twittersphere early days. You were pretty up and about. I assumed you must be right up there in the rankings, just like Dossie here. How's your season been panning out, mate? And a bit of an update from the weekend.
00:04:02
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Yeah, it wasn't one of my best. It was 1865. I tend to tweet out when you do well, don't you, Doss? That's sweet when you're up and about and lay low when you're not. And that's 10,613 for the year, negotiating the buys like a submersible pod looking for the Titanic.
00:04:21
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Yeah, that's a pretty reasonable rank. You've just about halved mine there. I want to have a look at mine now. Look, the listeners have been interested to know if I've managed to finally break the algorithm and get inside the top 20,000 now. There is a conspiracy going out there that
00:04:39
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AFL Fantasy has capped Dossi's progress, obviously following the song earlier in the year, claiming the luck's early days. They have put a shadow ban on my account getting inside the top 20K. And my score this week, 1877, which only 10 points shy of harmi. So we can't continue the joke of pumping in 100 points to me there, lads. But look, a pretty solid score. And my rank came in to, drumroll please,
00:05:10
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21,721. I'm still outside. And guys, I think we have to go back. I did end up tweeting my cousin, Jaden Papowski out there, Dossie Papowski's cousin, Jaden. And I asked him,
00:05:26
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If there is any ghost ships out there ahead of me inside the top 20K, now look, he tweeted me back. I have to confess, I didn't really understand all the numbers, but Holmsey, you've got the explanation for us here. Are there any ghost ships ahead of me?
00:05:41
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Yeah, look, Dossie, he looked into some of the coaches in the top 20,000 to see if there was any out there that had been higher than you without making much trades and things like that. And the main one we really want to take away is there was one coach ranked before the weekend about 10,000. He'd only made 11 trades for the year and hadn't logged into his account since round eight. So how does that make you feel, mate?
00:06:08
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That is just, look, if there's not a ban on my account, that's honestly, that's just embarrassing for me, I'm afraid. That is just shocking. And should I just delete the team? Should maybe be the next question I asked Papowski and how many people have deleted their team out there and if I should join the ranks. But no, fantastic stats there. Let's get into some positives for the round after hearing that disastrous news and our Lux for the week. You know, the Lux is mine from the start.
00:06:37
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Let's start with you, Hami. What was your luck this week? Well, who should I say? Well, I had a couple of Bulldogs bringing it home for me on the Sunday, Dossie. And I couldn't go past Tim English as my captain in the last quarter. He pumped up about 60 points. And I was really, really happy to see that come through.
00:07:01
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You know what, Hami, I actually do have a bone to pick with you, mate, because you just had to come into the group chat at three-quarter time. Tim English was on 78 points, and me being a non-Tim English owner, I was quietly happy. He was going to go just a low ton, but you had to tempt the gods. You come in, you say, hey, Dossie, knowing that Dossie had foregone the 113 VC from Dunkley to go English, and you're going, hey, do you think he's got 37 points in him this quarter, Dossie?
00:07:30
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Dossie replies with the old, yeah, he's got at least 50 plus points in him, mate. I can feel it. And what happened, Hami? What happened, mate? There we go. That's Buzz. Yeah, look, I better come clean. I didn't have him as my captain. I was just really happy for my friend, Dossie, with the sea on coming home. And I was hoping he'd just get another five points or so so that you could go past me, Doss. But nevertheless, still almost, almost got me.
00:07:58
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That's beautiful stuff. Homesy, who's your Lux?
Player Performances and Surprises
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Yeah, I'm going to give it to his Bulldogs teammate, Marcus Bontempelli, 158. He's been an absolute ripper pick for me this year. I was very bullish on him in the pre-season and it just sucks that I started his other Bulldogs teammate, Bakre, alongside him. But he's been an absolute fantastic pick, nearly priced at the million dollar price tag now. And yeah, 158 was an absolute masterclass, including I think a 60 point last quarter. So it was a very, very good way to bring it home on Sunday.
00:08:29
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Yeah, a couple of late goals in that game. It's just outstanding from the Bont, heading towards that Brown low as well. Now, Stevie, must have had a couple of good performers on the weekend. Who's going to be charging you back from 10K and getting you your Lux this year? Probably, I'll give it to Patrick Cripps, just because he's been absolutely terrible ever since I brought him in. And he actually had, I was going to trade him out this weekend and he actually put a good score on the board against
00:08:56
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You're mine now. God go, son. So, probably Crips. But now he's gone. Yeah, what did he get this week? It was like $117,000. Three girls, $110,000, mate. Hey, Holmsey, I don't want to ruin the Fossil's Fire for next week. But would you consider him at $660,000? Could you bring him in next week?
00:09:17
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Patrick Cripps, that is loose as. I'm not sure I could, but knowing what he's done in the past, you never know, but he'd been pretty ordinary up until that point, hadn't he, Stevie? I started out okay, and then he had a couple of bad games. It was just Carlton had a good run for inside mids, and I thought, oh, he's pretty cheap. He fits what we're trying to do, and it didn't work out. Obviously, he just kept going poorly.
00:09:42
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So as you mentioned, he's sort of on his way out of your team, but we'll mention a few others that were not so good in our sucks.
00:10:00
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giving my sucks to the primos that are dropping off my score as we go through these buy arounds. So these are the guys that aren't making the top 18 because I'll accept 40 from Chincotta or I'll accept 61 from Wilmot, you know, as a lower scoring player, but 66 from Tom Stewart. I was expecting about a hundred, so he's well short of that. So he can have my sucks for the week.
00:10:28
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No worries, and I will get to my lucks as well. I know I skipped over myself. There's an extended story there, so that's what I'll get to mind. But, Holmes, who was your sucks this week? Yeah, I'll raise you, Hami, because at least Tom Stewart dropped off for you, whereas a 60 from Jack Steele did not. He was well and truly in my 18, and he's probably been the worst pick of my fancy career so far, and I've had some bad ones too. So, 60 from Jack Steele, and I'm sure we're going to get into whether or not we can trade him this week, because I really, really want to.
00:10:58
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Just rewind two weeks ago, you may recall that I said better wait a week on Steele and just see how he looks physically coming off that buy. But did you wait a week? I didn't, Hami. But at the same time, we preach about if you want to get ahead of the competition, sometimes you've got to go early. So I'm actually all right with it. I didn't expect him to be as bad. I didn't expect him to be worse coming off the buy compared to when he was playing banged up before it.
00:11:25
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Yeah, it's not looking good now. You were right, but I had to take a punt from where I was anyway, so it's all good. For a guy that averaged over 120 last year, you wouldn't expect a 60, would you? Worst case scenario. All right, Stevie Fizz. Let us know who let you down this week, mate. It's tough to say this man let you down because he's an absolute jag off, but it's Scott Lissette.
00:11:49
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And I had, so I just brought him in to cover over the bias because I don't have English. Um, so I've been playing like Samson Ryan in R2 and I thought I'll bring in light and he got injured. It brought in Lycet cause he had like three really easy match ups after the buy over the bias. I'm like, Oh, sweet. He'll pump up, pump up my cash. He got subbed in the first match and brought him in.
00:12:13
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And he scored nothing against the Bulldogs. And then he had Geelong who's like cake and still scored nothing. And it's like, come on, man. Come on. Dossie, I was right, mate. Samson Ryan at R2 and then Lysette. Ah, Stevie, what are you doing, mate? He's letting you down. What are you doing, mate? Well, this is the draft coaching me. It's like you play the matchups and, you know, it might not be a good strategy in classic.
00:12:40
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But all I'm going to say is this strategy is having me twice as good as DOS. That's all. I know. Stevie, you can't be doing this. You can't be coming out of here. Out of my own goodwill, got you on the potty. I'll tell you what, you can't be bringing that. But Stevie, I want to know, you've got to let us know, is there any other real loose cannons in your team? You've already mentioned a couple of points. It's absolutely chock-a-block. Come on. Just list a couple of names for us. I brought in Kitty Coleman last week.
00:13:10
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I don't hate that. I mean, they got a string of good match-ups. He's cheap. And he was cheap and no rich, so. Dan Houston, Matty Rowell, Chad Warner. Matty Rowell's a loose one. I'm starting to see why you had Dossie on the draft doctor's pod for so many years, Steve. You're two peas in a pod. Well, every now and again, it clicks. Because I had a top 50 for the week a few weeks ago, and sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't.
00:13:41
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Can't believe that that squad just sounds like a absolute loose loose unit of Luke Jackson's in there mate. He's been good. I'm double your rank. Oh god. Oh Luke Jackson's on fire. Hang on. Oh Luke Jackson in the forward line or is he your other ruck? No no he's in the forward line.
00:13:58
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Okay. All right. Well, quickly, my sucks was the same as Holmes. Yeah, I just had steel, but I do want to get to my Luxe going back, going back a step. Now, I just got a little bit of a bit of story time for my Luxe. Now, I do want to give it to Louis this week. So obviously not on the pod, bit of a laid out tonight, but
00:14:16
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He, as you mentioned before, he talked me out of backing in the Dunkley VC who had 113. I think that's a really tough line to go against. I didn't want to go against it. As we know, I think it was last week I went against 110 odd VC, ended up getting
00:14:33
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Something like a 60 or an 80 or something it was an absolute loose call and and harm He was the the hero there saying don't do that this time I went against that again Louie backed it in first of all he said go Toronto I missed that one then I went on Tim English for the big 134 to come home put the sea on him as well
00:14:51
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And so I also want to give the likes to Louie because he actually came out and watched Dossi play a bit of footy on the weekend with Heth. And it was versing the team that, you know, I'll make check as he's in for his Div 12 resi's comp, just a few few grades up from that. But I wanted to tell a story from that because it's pretty funny. So.
00:15:11
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I give an accidental, I swear it was accidental, whack to the guts to one of the opposition players. You know, after a spoiler, I'm a defender. So give him the whack in the guts. Sorry, mate. Sorry. Sorry, but that wasn't intentional. He says, oh, geez, no worries, mate. You also give me shit fantasy advice. So we had
00:15:30
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A Pod Pod, one of the members of the Pod Pod family on the opposition. He goes back, I think he actually slotted the snag there. So a bit of a friendly encounter there. But then later in the game, this is where it gets even better. Later in the game, a tussle emerges and Dossie, as he valiantly does, goes in to care for his teammates. You know, goes in there, enters the fray.
00:15:55
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Suddenly I realize a big old strong arm grabs me by the scruff of my neck, pulls me out of the pack with one hand, he's got another bloke by the other neck as well. Who other than a member of our beloved Pod Pod family quite aggressively getting some vengeance for that shit fantasy advice, pulling me away from the pack there.
00:16:14
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I'll tell you what I tried to push against those two pythons as well and couldn't break the grip so Good on you there one of the pod pod family getting the job done Dossie and the cookers had the last laugh though with the big dubs. All right, let's move on Let's move on and I would just want to recap some of the content creators cup We have been talking about that quite frequently.
Competitions and Challenges
00:16:37
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So the round 14 matches the results are in
00:16:42
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I got the big win over Sanchez Snags, actually, and I gave him, that's from Hat Chat, your podcast there, Holmesy. I gave him a little DM, actually, with the GG too easy, and he hasn't replied to that one, so I'll be waiting his reply. Who else got the matchup? So, Stato, unfortunately, went down to Cowvernator. We had Holmesy getting a big win over DC Caterpillars of the Hat Chat, as well, and Stevie Fizz.
00:17:11
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had to buy alongside Harmy, but apparently Harmy now getting entry into the Content Creators Cup next year. Stevie, do you reckon with your salary cap influence, you might be entering this Content Creators Cup next year as well? What? No. No, I don't create any content anymore. Don't create any content, so I'm out. We might have to check on the
00:17:35
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the ranking requirement, whether 10,000 cuts it, Dossie, because as you say, I had a chat to the commissioner, Tim Guest, and as long as I keep up my rise up the rankings, I'm looking at a promotion, so I'm pretty happy with that.
00:17:52
Speaker
All right, well, we'll move on as well. Getting to the Pod Pod Challenge. There's now 20, I think it was 26 inside the top 100 now. So massive effort from everyone in the Pod Pod Challenge. Remember to search that and your legs join a board. That's all the listeners of the Pod Pod Challenge. I wonder where old pipes McGee would be sitting in the Pod Pod Challenge there. Hot topics.
00:18:15
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Hot, hot topics for the week. Look, there's not, I wouldn't say a stack of relevant hot topics, but we did hear the news on Monday night that Sicily is now gone for three
Trade Dilemmas and Strategies
00:18:27
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weeks. That ban was upheld as well as Whitfield who's suspended. So I want to get your thoughts, Holmsey, on if we're going to be trading these guys away. Sicily is a clear trade.
00:18:36
Speaker
Yeah look, Sicily, no doubt, you gotta trade that. Missing another three weeks. Got a lot of money on his head, so no doubt you'll be able to get creative and bring in a pretty good player with the money that's on his head. Whitfield, I think you'd trade as well. It's obviously he's on his buy this week and then he's missing another week and...
00:18:52
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I know coaches have been struggling with premiums that they could trade on this buy around to get their players playing this week. So I think that's a bit of a no brainer. Makes the decision easy for you if you can turn him into another premium and have an extra body on field this week. So owners might be a little bit blessed. He's been serviceable, but I don't think he's a top six defender. So if you can turn him into someone that definitely is. I think that's a very good play.
00:19:18
Speaker
All right, now Clayton Oliver, I know he's got the big injury sign next and we should know if he's going to be named soon enough. Has that been announced yet? No, Clayton Oliver. He hasn't made the list. Wow. Interesting.
00:19:34
Speaker
Interesting. So that was kind of some of the rumours going around was that he wasn't going to get up. So not named in the 22 for Melbourne and probably a big trade target for a lot of people wanting to go up to that massive big dog in the midfield coming off his fly. Still managing that lingering blister injury by the sounds of it, does he? Well, sounds like it because I thought initially a hamstring and then the infection was what was holding him back.
00:20:01
Speaker
Yeah. Big Dossy's never missed a game of footy with a blister. Have you, Dossy? Nah, just about 50 others with other soft tissue injuries. All right. With the last week of the buys as well, just a bit of a reflection on our buy-around strategy. And I guess it has your team improved as you'd hoped. Now, maybe get Stevie's thoughts. If we've got you there, Steve, on how your buy-around went and if you did much planning this year. Oh, none. None. We'll just pick a team, get to the buys.
00:20:31
Speaker
Not a salary capper. We just get there and then go like, well, how screwed am I? Well, how'd it go then? Because obviously we put in a lot of time and effort kind of coming into the buyers. Did you find yourself plummeting, you know, you're at that 10K point where you're doing a lot better pre-buy and, you know, how did that journey kind of go? I think I had one big week.
00:20:53
Speaker
up and one big week down and it's just I always think you can get too far ahead of yourself with these sort of things like we get people asking is this in draft and it's like who do I pick because this guy has this and it's like well you don't know if they're gonna get injured you don't know if they're gonna get suspended like it's
00:21:10
Speaker
you know you can do all the planning in the world and like I think maybe a week or two before it if you're making trades and you go oh maybe I'll get to make sure I've got a point but maybe the other boys probably no more than obviously no more than me about it but I think we can overstate what your team looks like heading into the buy that's my personal opinion.
00:21:31
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think there are, obviously, we've just mentioned there's ghost ships out there doing better than us anyway, so clearly I don't think they're doing too much buy-around planning, but I think there is something to be said as well on that extra, extra round of the buyers that kind of helps us navigate that, but yeah, I guess going to you, Harmony, how have you found it this year? Oh, it's really good, because that extra round helped me navigate, bringing in Bailey Humphrey and Braden Feorini and Rory Atkins, all these gun players, to help me through the pies.
00:22:23
Speaker
A bit rough to put Bailey Humphrey in the category with those other two players. Army? Hump is a gun.
00:22:31
Speaker
75. I'm not shooting for 10,000, mate. I'm shooting for the top 1,000. The big humper. Yeah, well, actually, I've finally enough had a message from Clevo, who was on one of the earlier iterations of this podcast. And he said, buy around planning works, sending me a screenshot of his team. He was pretty happy with his rise during the buys, notoriously a non buy around planner. So finally taking advice after all these years.
00:22:59
Speaker
and seemingly taking a jump. Holmsey, did you have any other takeaways that were kind of different? Have you enjoyed this buy-around period? Is your team looking any better? Yeah, I definitely have. I think that round in the middle, especially the one that I went bang, it's definitely made it a lot easier for us to be able to navigate the buys, but it does
00:23:17
Speaker
really hammer home. I know last week I kind of came on this podcast and I was spruiking that maybe you only need 19 or 20 players because of how we've been looking this year, but a week's a long time in fantasy and those coaches like myself that had to cop a ward law and Johnson on field this week or, you know, even players that had to cop Buller or something like that, it really hampers your score. So it does really still nail
00:23:41
Speaker
the fact time that you got a plan so you can get at least 20 on so that you're not copying these rookie scores because they will happen. We're not always going to get lucky and drop sixties or premiums off harmi.
00:23:54
Speaker
Yeah I agree it's a bit of a rule that isn't it with some of those lower priced players you can receive a really awesome score some of them are getting hundred you know but that the Johnstons 37 and the Ward Law 31 really just highlights
00:24:13
Speaker
you know, the risk and reward through this period and who you're relying on and making sure you got an appropriate bench cover. I think that's probably the one thing that saved me a little bit. Dossie coming in was I've traded away some of those red dots. So I at least had a fair number of players each week, which was good.
00:24:30
Speaker
Yeah, let's get on to one of my favorite parts of the show. It's our observations and our little roundtable discussion. So we just go around, talk about a few observations for the week. It can literally be to do with anything. And I think this is where Stevie Fizz will find his home on this show because I really enjoy part of that. That's the part of the Draft Doctors I enjoy the most is when you guys just sit back, you give us some data that or, you know, some some thoughts about some game plans or whatever.
00:24:54
Speaker
that you've been seeing. And that's kind of really where I think you differentiate from a lot of the other podcasts. And you're a great watcher of the game, Stevie. But I wonder if you've got some sort of observation for us this week. Yeah, love watching all those games. I think it's just about being realistic about match ups and situations is we had a lot of people discussing the Josh Dunkley captaincy score. I saw on the Twitters like whether to take it and probably on that line ball. But I just want to look, is it actually a smart move
00:25:24
Speaker
to be captaining players in night games up north, and especially outside players. I think there was a lot of people who were disappointed with Rory Atkins in the Northern Territory. And I just think you're running the dice or rolling the dice when you play these sort of guys. There's just no marks in those conditions. If you look at the average marks per game, it's 90 per side. Well, neither of those teams cracked 70 on Friday night. And marks are really where you make
00:25:53
Speaker
make your money. So I just and also probably even going back to Tom Stewart, I know he was a popular trade in off the by. They had port, I don't know, it's a shit matchup. But be realistic about what you're
00:26:06
Speaker
you're trying to achieve when you trade in players and captain players. And you're going to have Brisbane playing a night match. I think it's Thursday next week. I mean, you can get there with tackles in those conditions. There's going to be a lot of tackles, but I'd just be careful about captaining the outside players in those sort of situations.
00:26:25
Speaker
Just a question for you there, Stevie. So we've got a couple of games this week that might be similar. So we've got the Suns and Hawks play the late game on the Sunday, 4.40pm, Heritage Bank.
00:26:41
Speaker
And then we've got the night game in Perth, so Freo and Essendon. So again, could be a bit dewy at night, I suppose, potentially. So you're sort of saying that you reckon that there's a bit of a cap on the ceiling of players playing in those games? Well, I think it can be, certainly.
Environmental and Player Strategy Impact
00:27:00
Speaker
I mean, especially if you, I mean, it's probably more of a drafting, but like, say you're looking at captaining
00:27:06
Speaker
a Noah Anderson or someone who primarily wins on the outside against the Hawks, that might be a great matchup on paper. And maybe he gets there, but I just think that maybe there's some limit to the ceiling. I'll put it that way. Yeah, kind of like that. Yeah, it's another great observation from Stevie. And then what we got you on board for, hopefully hasn't disappointed you too much on the show, Holmes. Did you have an observation for us?
00:27:34
Speaker
Yeah, I just want to say, Stevie touched on it before in terms of not looking too far ahead in the buyers, but I just want to actually look a little bit further ahead to what our teams are going to look like ideally next week coming out of round 16 with those two trades. So I'm going to start with you, Hami.
00:27:51
Speaker
Do you think you're still going to be running a rookie on field either at F6, M8 or D6, or do you think you're going to be able to be essentially full premium, albeit you still have maybe a couple of premiums that aren't quite up right at the top where we eventually want to be towards the end of the year? All right, I'll just be with me in sec here, Holmsey.
00:28:14
Speaker
I'll just run through my, I guess the worst player who I'm predicting will be in each line. Okay, so probably will day as a defense. I'm hoping that my worst player in my midfield will be Fioreini. Sorry, Dossi. And then in forward line will be Benquis. So yeah, I'm hoping that it's close enough to full premium. It kind of just depends on a couple of trades this week and what I do.
00:28:43
Speaker
And this is why I'm still going to try and still do my downgrade upgrade, cashing out the guys on my bench to try and get to that level. So that's where I'm at at the moment. But look, it may change. I'm sort of considering a elite YO type and things like that, which I'll talk to later. But yeah, that's where I'm at at the moment. And Dossi, being a coach that is still contending for the LUX, where are you sitting with your team coming out of the buyers next week?
00:29:14
Speaker
Not that good. I'd say I think I'm still in it. I'm in a similar situation where I think Feoreni will be my M8 there. Everything else. My forward line is actually really strong as well. It's really my defense that I just did not upgrade enough.
00:29:29
Speaker
throughout the season pre and sort of mid-buy, I just couldn't ever get to the cash I wanted. And then with Adelaide and Adelaide having that kind of middle buy, it was really, you know, Dawson was really the one that I wanted to target. And I still might bring him in, but yeah, just haven't really filled out the defensive line. So I think my bottom D6, maybe even D5 is going to look a bit ugly. But aside from that, the team shaping up much better than it was pre-buy for sure.
00:29:57
Speaker
Yeah, because I was just trying to get a bit of a gauge of where coaches are at. Clearly the coaches in the top 100,000 are all going to be close, if not at full premium coming out of the bias and we're not really competing against them. But I suppose the dilemma that I'll have next week is.
00:30:12
Speaker
whether I do sort of use the last little upgrade to get my last on-field player up to someone at that high 500, low 600 range like a YO Keys, a Himmelberg type, or whether it is okay to maybe run a Windhager at F6 and then decide to go maybe a Caldwell up to a real mid-premium or a Briggs up to English or something like that.
00:30:36
Speaker
listening to you guys talk, if you do have a Feorini at M8, then maybe it's not the worst thing as a Windhager and a Feorini could be, you know, comparable, at least for that one round, until I have a bit more time to get a bit more cash to go up. Stevie, how are you sitting? Oh yeah, I'll probably have a couple youngsters in there. I think Weddle will be my D6. Probably Sheldrick will be my F6. And probably Ashcroft still in the midfield.
00:31:09
Speaker
Yeah, I was just going to say there, Homsey, with you say full premium. My premiums would also include people like Lucky Neil, Bragg Crouch, people that may not actually end up being the top of their line. So that's kind of the compromise, I suppose, that I've made in that mix as well.
00:31:35
Speaker
But I'm also tempted to hold, this is one of my other things, I'm also tempted to hold Windhager as my M8, and that would make Fiorini my M7, because then, I think it's a pretty good match-up, isn't it? Have they got the Eagles or someone? I haven't looked at it, but it's pretty decent for memory. Yeah, they've got the Eagles in round 16, and that's one of the things that is making it a little bit more tempting to run him at least that week.
00:31:59
Speaker
I mean, there'd be no point upgrading Briggs to English that week, considering they have the Dockers matchup. So you'd think that the Jackson-Darsie combo means that English probably won't have a real big ceiling game, although he's definitely done it before. So yeah, that's just something I'm looking at. And that role for Windhanger was fantastic on the weekend, had the most CBAs for St. Kuehler, and they really seemed to like him as that defensive-minded midfielder in there.
00:32:24
Speaker
That means that his floor is probably pretty high with the tackles, but as I said, a week's a long time in fantasy. We were saying this last week about Johnson and Wardlaw, although I think Windhager's spot on that side is probably a little bit more cemented than what those two rookies had.
00:32:40
Speaker
Going onto my observation now, and it's one purely for the great man joining us on this show, but look, I was watching the Gold Coast Suns, as I usually do, Stevie watched my, your beloved son, sorry, I've probably been kicked out of the club, but look, Stewie Jew, I watched his strategies on the
Controversial Selections and Player Potential
00:33:02
Speaker
weekend. My boy, Stewie Jew, yeah, my great friend, Stewie.
00:33:06
Speaker
45 CBAs between David Swallow, Alex Davies, Will Powell, and Nick Holman. Fair any we know isn't getting used there. That's all right. He's popped him on the wing. At least he's getting a game. But could this finally be it after an absolute walloping? Their midfield was questioned constantly on the broadcast as well, getting a bit of heat there. Stewie, you know, really fighting for that gig.
00:33:34
Speaker
Could this be the moment? I mean, he desperately, in desperation, put Will Powell and Nick Holman at the Centre Bounces mix in the second half. Yes, after half time, they said, what's Stewie going to do to change it up? In goes Nick Holman and Will Powell into the Centre Bounces after half time. What's stopping in now in putting in a man that just had 44 disposals, seven marks, eight tackles and two snags with 173 fantasy points. Talking about Flanders.
00:34:04
Speaker
Surely it's nothing at all. Stopping him from putting him in there, Stevie. What do you think on that? Flanders, is it time? Well, it should be, but he seems to have an aversion to the great man, so I'm not sure what the hell's going on there.
00:34:19
Speaker
Even early in the piece, he couldn't get a sniff. I don't know what photos Alex Davies has of Stewie Doo and what, but it's got to be something juicy. He hates him. I don't understand it. I can't understand it. I sort of understood it early in the year when the small forwards were lacking, but I think you've got enough other guys there to give him a run. I just can't get it.
00:34:43
Speaker
Even when he did come in pre-injury, he was only allowed to sit in a 50 arc too. He wasn't allowed to come up the ground. That's it. It's just unbelievable. Is he too small to be an inside mid at AFL level? Like we've seen Caleb Daniel do it at times. Caleb Daniel! At times though, Dossie. And Daniel's a bit older, right?
00:35:02
Speaker
It's crazy. They're talking about preseason. Like, I don't understand it. They're actually at a chance of losing him. The sun's just... No offense, Steve. The suns keep doing this time after time. What's the go with Sharp? Why didn't they let him go last year to West Coast when he wanted to? I don't really understand their trading and their recruitment philosophy. Tell us, Steve. I don't think they need... Well, I mean, they weren't going to get anything for Sharp, right? So they need future picks.
00:35:29
Speaker
Um, I think the deal was he was happy to go to Freo. Freo didn't have any future picks. Um, so they just held him to the contract. I mean, I think it sort of goes back to like when, when the dumped lions, they had no need for the pick. So they just let him go. And it's, I think it's just one of those things. They've got a clear strategy. They needed picks for this year because they've got an extremely strong, uh, Academy hand coming through.
00:35:55
Speaker
And if Freo didn't didn't have it then they may as well keep him and I mean he can't crack the team like not even getting a sniff so I don't understand. Stewie Jew is really interesting man. I know people might say is a shocking coach But the the guys are signing on like they're not losing Yeah, the stars hand over fist. So I think they're in a really tough spot. I
00:36:20
Speaker
I'll just say, Dossi, I actually am a believer. I have traded him in and out of my draft team about four times this year, so I'm waiting for Flanders to get a game, but I just can't see it.
00:36:30
Speaker
I spent a waiver in my keep. I've been holding that waiver for ages. I was that convinced watching the game on the weekend that they need to change their midfield mix, that I would not be surprised if he finally gets a gig this week. So look, Buzz Dostia, he often predicts things before they happen. Stevie, I don't know if you know that, but look, I think your boy Flanders might be at that first set of outs on the weekend. The only thing of his favor is Jed Anderson's pulled a pin. He's, well, not retired, but he's taking time away. So unless it's kind of Blakely season,
00:37:01
Speaker
And also, by the way, I think Constable got injured on the weekend. He only had, yeah. So he's down there to replace. I think you'll have, I think you'll have, um, Ellis come in cause Jeffrey's out for six weeks. Um, yeah. So he was on the bench for the whole last quarter. Yeah.
00:37:23
Speaker
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Speaker
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00:38:03
Speaker
We wanted to quickly go through your, in honor of the fossil, of course, not with us on the show at the moment, but the fossil is five.
Top Trade Targets and Value Picks
00:38:11
Speaker
So, Harmi, you're going to be the honorable fossil this week and your top five targets this week before we get into our Twitter questions and the requests there.
00:38:22
Speaker
And look, I don't mean to go against the host's instructions, but I'm afraid, Dossie, I've taken a bit of poetic license and I've moved this around slightly, sorry. I couldn't really, when I wrote down all of the players coming off their buy and the ones that I'm interested, I kind of had to group them. So I've got sort of two groups, I'm sorry, mate. One being premiums and one being mid prices. I'm not really gonna go through rookies because there's stuff all,
00:38:50
Speaker
unless your name's Kyle Lowman, you're probably not a bad dang great option. So I'll throw out a few primos. I'll go three, two, one, I think with the primos. And coming at number three is Zach Merritt. Priced at 994,000. He's a little bit above his starting price. So he's priced at 115. Had a great run coming into the
00:39:15
Speaker
By with a break even of a hundred so you you'll get that no worries But I guess my only knock on merit is he has had a great run coming in Not sure whether that's going to continue and I see that Darcy Parrish is a chance to come back. Okay, so he's my number three and
00:39:33
Speaker
Number two, out of the pies, Tommy Mitchell, love the pig, absolute gun player, a guy that gets it done in all facets of the game, as in marks, tackles, probably too many handballs, but I really enjoy watching him, okay? 875,000, he's gone up slightly on his starting price, okay, so he's 22,000 up, but what he's been doing the last sort of, the last few weeks, getting out those 120 plus scores has been awesome.
00:40:01
Speaker
Average, sorry, priced at 102. I reckon he goes a little bit beyond that. Okay. So he could be 105, maybe a touch more. So that's not too bad. I just want to jump in there. Cause I know, yeah, like Stevie, you're, you're a whiz with the stats. Is there anything that you would flag if you're looking at targeting Tom Mitchell? Do you think the last kind of month's been a little bit of an outlier or would you back in the form change here? I mean, to go, he's out, but I'm okay with, I'm okay with Tom Mitchell.
00:40:30
Speaker
All right, you've got the you've got the tick of approval there from Stevie Holmsey. Yeah, and I'll just I'll give this one to Jake, who actually flagged this on the HatChat podcast the other day. The only thing I'll say is that his scores have been built very heavily around tackles and he hasn't really been the biggest tackler in his career so far. And admittedly, that's because his role was just to get as much pillars he could
00:40:51
Speaker
on the outside, but I think 10 and 13 tackles in his last two games when he's more, you know, traditionally a four, five, six tackler. So maybe if those tackles start to come back down to a more normal level, then maybe the big ceiling scores aren't going to be there. But I can't really knock the pick I was looking at in myself. And I think at a minimum, I think the one or two price tag is what you're going to get. So, yeah, great flag there.
00:41:15
Speaker
OK, thanks, Jake. Got to remember, he also did have a smashed shoulder for a while, so his tackling was probably down a little bit coming back from that. But number one in the primos, I'm going to throw it to Rory Leid. He's the sort of player that I like looking at coming in through this period of the season because he's actually down a fair chunk on his starting price. There's been a couple of little injuries throughout the first half of the season, and there's potentially some upside there. So yes,
00:41:42
Speaker
Jordan Dawson's coming to the mid field and he's playing awesome but I still think that he's a good pick Rory Leid. So 118,000 down for the year, he's priced at $110,000 with a break even of $104,000. So if you're going for a premium this week, he would be a very good pick up I think guys. Agree with that. Leid, Titch, Merritt, 1-2-3. Yeah, can't go wrong with that I reckon. Although Titch probably the controversial one I'd say.
00:42:11
Speaker
Stevie any different from the from a drafting sense, you know, you you like the one through the 100 I suppose No, no, they're great picks. I'm probably looking at Stuart myself this week held off last week. I think he's an easy swap for Whitfield And I probably brayshore as well, I just think with sarong Battling through injury. He might be a pretty handy pickup. I mean he's gone anyway, so
00:42:42
Speaker
Yeah. Cool. All right. So I'm going to move into the, I guess the mid priced people. I'm going to throw out five, if that's okay, Buzz. I know that you've probably got, there's probably a hundred that you could probably name. So number five, I'll give to Salem.
00:43:01
Speaker
I think when you watch that Melbourne game prior to the buy, everything that they wanted to do coming out of that back line was through him. So at $659,000, he's basically at his starting price. And I think he's not too bad at value. So his price at $76,000.
00:43:18
Speaker
Every chance you could go beyond that, OK? So break even of 59. Number four, you guys might not like this one, but this is a guy that I was watching through the preseason and not much has gone his way. He's out of the midfield, but he's still scoring bloody well. And that is Taylor Adams. Taylor Adams is priced at $624,000. So affordable from maybe even your ward law types, I suppose.
00:43:44
Speaker
He's down $100,000 on his starting price. He's been in the Ford line, and that's affected that. His price is $72,000, and I think that he's beyond $72,000. He's got a $44,000 break even, so probably not a bad pick up this week. If you're interested in somebody cheap, then he's mid-Ford as well. That's worse. That's okay. That's all we're here for, Dossy. You're rubbing off on me. Number three, my mid prices.
00:44:08
Speaker
Very, very high on the trade targets a couple of weeks ago, but Darcy Cameron, 691,000. He's down on his starting price when we were all keen on him as a value ruck coming into the season. Priced at 80, break even at 56. If you were keen on him two weeks ago, I know that you don't really haven't had all of the support through the buy, but I think he's still probably a good pick.
00:44:33
Speaker
Number two, my mid prices, I know this one has been floated around and I'm bloody glad I picked him up for about $120,000 cheaper than he is now. But Ben Keyes, the midfielder, not forward, the midfielder for the CRO, $675,000, steal $190,000 down on his starting price. Can you believe that? He's priced at $78,000 with a break even of $28,000. Holmes, what do you feel? How do you feel about Ben Keyes?
00:45:02
Speaker
I really like the pick and I really want to go there this week, but I do worry coming up against Colton, is he going to tag Dacos like he did in the same fixture only six rounds ago when he tagged him and only had a score of 44. So if they give him the matchup this week and they say you're going to run with Dacos wherever he goes,
00:45:23
Speaker
it's going to be all right in the midfield because we know he can score in the midfield but if Daikos just takes himself back to the half back flank and Keys just has to follow him around it might be a bit of a disaster for coaches this week bringing him in so that's the flag I want to put on it I've been toying with it all week I think he's fantastic value I think in the midfield role he's going to be a top six if not very very close
00:45:45
Speaker
But yeah, I just do worry about the matchup this week. That's the flag I want to put on it. And that flag kind of extends for the rest of the season, right? If he is that sort of go to where they kind of fling him around, match up dependent to give him different roles where we really want consistency.
00:46:00
Speaker
I think we heard that from Tommy Duda on the Traders podcast earlier in the week saying pretty much exactly that, that he's their jack of all trades and you can throw him anywhere, which hurts his ability to play that pure midfield when he can do other things. Who else have you got for us in this before we get onto some requests quickly to round out the show?
00:46:24
Speaker
Yeah, I'll just... I'll throw a question back to you, I suppose. How many times has Nick Daco been tagged this year?
00:46:33
Speaker
Well, not as many as we thought, but they did tag him in the in that corresponding fixture earlier in the year and they got within one point of Collingwood. So you would think that they potentially roll with that again. It's just a flag, but, you know, it's going to be a disaster if you do it. And then the tag does eventuate and it doesn't score. That's that's just a flag. But you are right, Hami. I've been worried about tags for most of the year and it hasn't eventuated a lot of the time. But when there is evidence of it happening against this side earlier on in the year, it's it's definitely something you've got to consider.
00:47:03
Speaker
Yeah, and look, fair call. Agree with you. There is some risk there, but I just think that I've been looking at these tags, expecting things to happen. And then you say you avoid a trade in, but then you look at it and then the guy never gets tagged and he smashes out a massive score and you regret not, you know, training him into your team. So I just feel as though there's actually been a lot less this year than we expected. But anyway, we'll go to my number one.
00:47:27
Speaker
If you like risking your backline, this is your man, Elliot Yeo, okay, priced at $605,000, $20,000 cheaper than the start of the season.
00:47:41
Speaker
Wow, priced at 70. This is a guy that's gone over 100 in the past. I really think that it's a great play. He's playing in the midfield now. Yeah, sure, there's a risk of a shoulder, calf, groin injury, but I still think if I am looking for a value pick this week, it's probably, yeah.
00:48:03
Speaker
Yeah, and I don't know if you've seen it, but they've basically confirmed that McGovern, Barrass and Liam Duggan are all going to come back into the side this week, which is a guaranteed two defenders, if not Duggan going back there as well. We've seen Duggan play a bit of midfield this year, so you would think that that means that there's less reliance on Jo to go back and play fullback like he did against Adelaide, which means that potentially there's a bit more midfield time for him where we know he can score too.
00:48:26
Speaker
Yeah, and you've seen it, like when they have their ideal type, like ideal midfield, so when Simpson's got what he wants, it seems to be Yo, Kelly and Sheed. And that would make sense. Yeah, they'll run through, Jim being that and, you know, less extent, some of the other guys, that's who they feel they are most competitive with. And they just haven't really had it the entire season, have they, Dossi?
00:48:53
Speaker
Oh, no, mate. And it'll be good to hear Stevie's thoughts on this. And will Elliot Yeo be joining your mishmash crew of misfits, mate? Oh, I don't know. Maybe after that pitch. I was just going to ask, homie, at this time of the year, are you more willing to take on a risky player like Yeo? Because you've kind of got a full team or close to a full team. So you're not trying to make upgrades, downgrades. Is that something that plays a new strategy or, you know, as opposed to say starting someone like that at the beginning of the year?
00:49:23
Speaker
There's a couple of, yeah, so you're right. I'd be far more inclined to take this sort of a player at the start of the year, but my team is not in the top 100, and it actually may work as a bit of a point of difference from those teams that are up there, because they can't afford to do it. If they've got a full premium team, they're not gonna downgrade to yo. For me, Holmes, he asked about who our worst players were coming out. I see him as affordable and a rookie upgrade.
00:49:52
Speaker
Unfortunately for my team, my personal situation, it's going to be a bit harder because I'm actually going to have to have move. I've already got Will Day in my midfield. I'm going to have to move another defender amid into my midfield to be able to get your win. So this is the only reason I'm a little bit reluctant this week for myself.
00:50:12
Speaker
Yeah, and the other thing that I kind of like about the Yopik as well, don't get me wrong, it's just fraught with danger with his body. But we've spoken a lot on this podcast how, you know, the top four defenders are pretty much set in. You've got Daikos Dawson, Cicely, and then Docherty as the top four. But that fifth and sixth defender is just up in the air. Like we've seen Stewart be up and down. Sinclair's hitting a bit of form, but he has a bit of a flaw on his day as well.
00:50:36
Speaker
You know, if you can get an Elliott Yo price at 600k that can push close enough to those guys, then that can definitely be a win at this time of year compared to, you know, Hami's right. Some of the other top sides that have got their defense set. But, you know, just because those defenders performed well in the first half of the year doesn't mean that they're going to perform as well in the second half.
00:50:56
Speaker
All right, that's Epic Fossils 5 or Fossils, what was it in the end, 8 there from you, Harmony. We got some mid prices and some premiums. I love that though. That touches on a lot of the players that did come up in the listener request, but we are going to get to these now and look in honour. I'm going to go back to our segment steal. Now, Stevie, I don't know if you've heard this, but we steal segments occasionally on the show. We're frauds here.
00:51:19
Speaker
can't think of our own ideas so we go and steal some segments and this time in honor of Kyle's guest appearance on Hat Chat we're going back to the well and we're stealing trade or spade.
00:51:40
Speaker
So in trade or spade, it's obviously, it's essentially hold or fold, but with Nathan spin on it from hat chat. Now there is a couple of people that are really relevant this week. Jack Steele, they came out and said he's got a grade two medial strain and an Achilles issue. But Stevie, if he gets up and about this week, would you trade or spade?
00:52:03
Speaker
Now you gotta get rid of him. I brought in Brad Crouch last week just because Steel looks rooted. Target the other dude. All right, so if you're an owner though, you're trading. Yeah, yeah, yeah, get rid of him. Wow, all right. Does anyone have any difference? You can only look at it though if you're gonna have 20 on field, right? So I'm looking at it this week. I wanna trade him. I just wanna get off. I can't have another half where I see him only get 20 points and just look absolutely nowhere but
00:52:31
Speaker
I can't trade him this week if it means I'm only going to have 18 or 19 on field because you cop a few rookie scores and you may as well keep him. So if coaches are in a good spot where they've got 20 or 21 playing and they can get rid of steel, I'm definitely ticking that move off because you're just going to kick yourself if you try and hold him and he comes out and he still just looks exactly the same. I can't see him getting over his injuries just like that. I think it's going to take a bit more time. So I think for me personally, if I can do it, I'm going to jump ship.
00:53:01
Speaker
All right. I also want to throw this one to you, Stevie as well. So Sam Walsh in a bit of a form slump. And, uh, is this a trade or spade for coaches? Yeah, that's a strange one, eh? Um, not sure what's going on. I'd probably try to stick fat. Uh, what? Yeah. Spade. Yeah. Try to stick fat. Just they got some good match ups. I just can't get it. I just, it's, it's in my blood, the good match ups. Um, I can't get away from it.
00:53:31
Speaker
Although I said I'd trade Patrick Coops, but he sucks. Fair. All right, trade or spay, Jack Zabel, harmi.
00:53:39
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Well, he gets 59 and sat a fair chunk, like a third of the game on the bench. Some of these ones are really difficult. That Jack Steele one is quite difficult because he's playing this week. Well, yeah. You know, you might need him as a number. It's the most difficult buy around and you were relying on him as a premium scorer in it. So that is a really difficult decision for coaches. But this one with him not playing, opportune time to trade him out.
00:54:08
Speaker
What about Harry Shaezel on the same team, Homesy? But we saw him move back into that fantasy-friendly role in defense again this week. And obviously, some coaches have already traded. But if you haven't, is it a trade or spade?
00:54:20
Speaker
I think this one's a spade, Dossi. I actually have a bit of regret trading out Chisel two weeks ago. I thought it was the right move at the time with Aaron Hall still in the side, but with them turfing him out and Chisel moving back into that half-back roll, I can't see that changing anytime soon. And in that roll, he can easily go 90 to 95 and be close enough to the top six defenders while you upgrade around the rest of your side.
00:54:44
Speaker
The caveat on that though is that if you do need to trade him to get numbers on field this week, then I'm absolutely okay with that. And coming out of the bife, if it does end up moving into a more midfield forward roll, then absolutely you'd jump off then because that roll's not going to be as easy to score in compared to that halfback roll.
00:55:00
Speaker
All right, now we're going the double segment still for the first time on the show and it's mainly because we are running incredibly tight on time and I really love this segment from the plus six podcast going back to our boys, Pete and Jep.
Trade Decisions and Player Evaluations
00:55:13
Speaker
Plus six podcast. This is my mate. Your boy, your boy, Pete. Hang on, are we doing a mock draft after this, mate? Aren't we going for two hours?
00:55:24
Speaker
Alright, well we know Steve loves, Steve and Pete have a great relationship on Twitter there, AFL ratings. It's like or dislike.
00:55:35
Speaker
Okay, let's smash through these names. I'll just give you the name you give me a like or dislike you can give us a quick Explanation if of why that is but Clayton Oliver we can write off because he's injured. So that's a dislike there We've gone through the first we've gone through Zach Merritt and Tom Mitchell as both likes in harmies Christian Petrarcha Holmes II like or dislike
00:55:58
Speaker
I'm going to say dislike. I'm a Petrarcha owner so I've had him all year. He's been serviceable, close enough to the top eight mids without being fantastic. Don't get me wrong, owners have been very kissed over the last three to four weeks with Clary Oliver being out but you're going to want Clary Oliver back in your side when he is fit and firing and for that reason I don't really like trading into Petrarcha now knowing that Clary is pretty close. So I'll say dislike but
00:56:25
Speaker
I do have him, so I do actually like him as a player. Locky Neil, harm me. Ooh, as a trade-in target, isn't it? So I'm going to say dislike right now, because I now feel that there are more trading options for you. So yeah, I'd probably be chasing somebody else, such as a Brad Crouch type. Well, Brad Crouch, Stevie Fizz, like or dislike there? Yeah, yeah, fan.
00:56:56
Speaker
Brought him in, so he better be good. Yeah. You love that option with, as you said, steel cooked. I can't remember the exact word there. Liam Duggan, harmy, like or dislike? Dislike, better options. Expensive. He came home firing last year though, but as Holmes, he said there's lots of defenders coming back in the side. I'm keen to look again there, but he came firing home last year. Don't do it, mate.
00:57:21
Speaker
Mason Redman on the contract extension watch. Holmesy, like or dislike? I'll say dislike, but I'm going to caveat this. I actually haven't looked into what his price is or what he's priced at. I know he's been in some pretty good form and Essendon seem to be playing some pretty good footy at the moment, but I'll just keep going back to what we've been preaching over this whole season is that they've got a lot of ball users back there and sometimes they're up, sometimes they're down. And I don't think he's going to consistently score well enough to be a top six defender on the run home.
00:57:51
Speaker
Now, I think some news came out about this guy today, maybe, but Callum Mills, is he out this week? Did we hear today? I think there was some news. No, they just said that he's got to get through training tomorrow before they make a decision on him. All right. Well, if named Stevie Fizz, Callum Mills, do you like that or not a fan of getting him coming off his injury? He's up against West Coast this week, if he plays. I love the player. I don't, I just don't trust him, man. Just don't trust him at the minute.
00:58:22
Speaker
It's a dislike there. Dylan Moore, harmy. Dislike. I don't know. I just don't want to sit on the fence. So I'll say dislike, but he's an option, but. Not enough mid-time notch is the moment he gets mid-time and they look like they're going to give him it for the run home. That's when I want to jump because he's a killer in inside mid humor, cluggage coming off that concussion homes. Any temptation there?
00:58:49
Speaker
Um, he's got the thumbs up, but, uh, nah, I'm going to say dislike. I want to see how he comes back. Um, he's very, very cheap, but cheap for a reason with what we've seen this year up and down like a yo-yo. Um, he's, he's not in the inside mid rotation, which means he's practically a full-time winger, which sees his scores go up and down. So I'll, I'll wait this week to have a look, but he's not someone I'm personally targeting. He has been in the rotation, but, um, uh, Stevie, what's been the downfall of the clogger this year?
00:59:21
Speaker
Uh, probably Josh Dunkley, I'd say. Or the Dossie curse from that song couple of years ago. Yeah. Can't have it. Dossie, you are a little bit upset that Ashcroft put another 71 points on plug out over the weekend.
00:59:38
Speaker
Ah, yeah. I'm sure he'll make up the ground, but no, I don't know. It's tough. Like he's in that mills price range, but he'd have to turn it around. I think it's, it's, uh, it's too tough to jump on at this point of the year unless he really shows that ceiling that we know and love. Darcy Cameron's a popular mid price option. Here's a few middies. Um, are you keen on Darcy Cameron? Stevie fears is a classic option. Have you got him in your eye line sites? No, no dislike. Wow. Okay.
01:00:05
Speaker
I just don't like him. Like the, the role just, it can be up, can be down. Who knows about the splits. Not a massive fan. It's an interesting take. I reckon, what are you, is there any harm? Like I reckon you'd be keen on a bit of Darcy Cameron.
01:00:24
Speaker
No, as well. It's just not for me at the moment. Yeah, I had a look. I mean, he's had a couple of good weeks, but yeah, I'm just, I can't really make it work. I've got so many forwards. I think I'm just going to sit him out. Yeah, I'm just going to not trade him in. All right, we're down to our last few here. Christian Salem-Homesy, could you go him as a yo alternative or are you much more keen on the yo?
01:00:46
Speaker
Oh, you definitely could. Hami put a good case up before. But yeah, look, I think he's only had one career year where he averaged 92 and most of the other years he's been in sort of 86 to 90. So although his value on his 76 price tag,
01:01:01
Speaker
history suggests he's not going to be close enough to the top six defenders in that role. So I'm going to say dislike on Salem, I'd much rather take the punt on an Elliott Yo. But maybe he is a safer play for some of those teams at the top that don't want to take the punt on an injury ravaged Elliott Yo. Yeah. And if you had a flawless run coming in and he'd had a great preseason and the writings on the wall, he was out in a great season. It's just not the case, though, is it?
01:01:29
Speaker
Jarman Impy, Stevie Fizz, I know you'd know his exact price being $697,000 being the salary cap fan that you are. 113 in his last three, like or dislike Jarman Impy, with Sicily three games out as well. Yeah, that's the magic sauce. I wouldn't pick him, but I think it's fine if you want to do that. You're probably going to have to trade him out though at some point.
01:01:55
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Marcus Windhager got the massive center bounce bump harm me. Has he had a bit of a no brainer pick at the moment given Steele's injury and given he's just clearly got a roll change in there? Yeah, look, I brought him in last week and I was quite happy with what I saw out of him. So if he suits what you want to do going forward, probably as a downgrade option to make a bit of cash, I think that it's a good play.
01:02:23
Speaker
All right, and finally, what are our rookie options this week? Holmesey, Dewey, is it just a Kyle Loman that's your real favorite? Or if Marek also gets named from West Coast, is there, you know, what do we got down there, Holmesey, do you think?
01:02:35
Speaker
Yeah, we're going to have to wait for selections, Dossie. I think we'll probably lose a Jack Buller, and he was no good in his debut game. Anyway, Lomond's the obvious one. It seems like they've got a spot for him in that side now, with Gunston going out for a while. But if he's someone that you're going to have to rely on field coming out of the bias, then that's absolutely not a play. But he's a good and great option to get some cash.
01:02:58
Speaker
as any that we've got at the moment. I think he looked really good. Jasper Fletcher looked pretty good as well, but I think he had a bit of an injury towards the end of the game. Pretty low time on ground and also human cluggage coming back means that we don't really have certainty on what his role is going to be moving forward. So I think it's Lohmann, but just wait for teams tomorrow to see if there's any other options that present themselves.
01:03:18
Speaker
Yeah, just have a look at two others. Probably Campbell Chessie is potentially not a bad option. He's still affordable, about $283,000. And then if you want to wait for the Sunday teams, you could see if Harrison's named for the Pies too, because he's only $256,000. So they may be your cash dump options. I've got one final one for Stevie Fizz to wrap up the show. Like or dislike, Sam Flanders.
01:03:44
Speaker
Love Sam Flanders. Thanks to you. We'll leave it there. Thanks so much for joining us, Davey Fizz. And yeah, you reckon the draft doctors will be up and running soon enough in the next few weeks, you reckon?
01:03:59
Speaker
We'll give it a bit of time and then we'll cash in the draft kit again. I don't know. I hope so. I hope so. The boys are still writing articles, so please check out the website and the streamers are just absolutely on fire. Mattyfaz doing a great job.
01:04:16
Speaker
Nice work, Matty Faz. I'll have to check it out myself as I'm on the run home for my Keeper League Championship there. But yeah, check out thedraftdoctors.com.au. Go follow them at thedraftdoctors on Twitter as well. Stevie comes up with some fire on there. I do love watching your Twitter games. So thanks very much, Steve, for joining us. And we'll see all of you next week.
01:04:41
Speaker
Feels like I'm wearing nothing at all! Nothing at all! Nothing at all! Stupid sexy Flanders!