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Audie Pott's Story of Bullying - "Just One Breath"
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In this episode Lisa is telling us the horrific story of Audie Pott. A bright & beautify 15 year old girl who had her whole life ahead of her, until one night of fun made her life spiraled out of control and past her ability to deal.
TRIGGER WARNINGS – this episode deals with high school bullying, sexual assault, alcohol abuse and suicide. If any of these items are difficult for you to hear – please skip this episode. Alternatively, while we are not medical professionals, we are hear to listen to you if you need to vent.
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Transcript
Introduction and Host Mishaps
00:00:08
Speaker
Well, hello, all you lovely people. And thanks for tuning in to another episode of Twisted Tales. I'm Faith. I'm Lisa. And we're glad you're here. Absolutely. And we have on noise reduction canceling in the background. But if you hear random singing, just ignore that. Yeah, she doesn't have an off switch. No, just like her mother. Just like the
00:00:31
Speaker
I'm trying to hear him like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute. Mine's it. Mine's a he. Well, it's weird because neither of us have the off switch. So either way, either way. So how was your week? It's been a crapshoot. Yeah. Car blew up. Wash and dryer blew up. Yep. Everything is blown up. Things I won't mention on the podcast. Blained about it a minute ago to you. Yep.
First Critique and Response
00:01:01
Speaker
My, my, my week was amazing. It was the best ever. It was not, but okay. So here's the thing. No, no. No. What? Faith. What? Are you going there? No. But I probably will now.
00:01:16
Speaker
So personal. We have. No, I'm talking about Facebook. Go ahead. Go ahead. We have gotten, you know, our first critique on Facebook. Thank you, by the way. Yes. Someone pointed out some facts that we got wrong that we, you know, well, by we, I mean, Lisa. Yeah. So let's not. And let me just let me just say for the record. OK, I appreciate the critiques because like I'll get a lot of my information based on like like
00:01:45
Speaker
I can only do so much research being a single mom and trying to like get stuff going and football practice and you can get your socks off and the whole deal. Right. Yeah. Um, so if somebody is coming at me with information, I am on board. But I would like to say, you know, I don't do, you know, I there's some times where I don't do well when people tell me I'm wrong and.
00:02:09
Speaker
things of that nature. I call Lisa and we're discussing this because like I'm interested because he knows the gentleman which I didn't ask
00:02:25
Speaker
If I could talk about him, so I'm not going to say his name, but he has studied the case for like 17 years. I think he said 18 years, 17 or 18 years. And so he knew a lot about the case and I call Lisa and we're talking about it about, about, you know, the facts that were wrong and things like that. And I was like, you know what this means?
00:02:46
Speaker
We have someone besides family that listens to us.
Miscommunications and Speaking Style
00:02:50
Speaker
So so seriously, bro, we love you. And thank you for listening because you might be our third because I listen to it and faithlessness to it. And now you. And that's amazing. It is. Yeah. But you know.
00:03:03
Speaker
I thought that was like, if you have critiques about stuff, dude, I am on board. OK, so this is episodes every other week. You got plenty of time. I've got plenty of ammo, plenty of ammo. Now her response. But I will say this is not great because she doesn't know how to use technique. She kept texting me all his messages disappeared. And I'm like, at least I'm looking at the messages. Yeah. Well, well.
00:03:30
Speaker
Oh, man, Lisa's really tired by like eight o'clock. Yeah, but I do want to look at that at seven or five. So you got an hour of my attention span before I'm ready for bed. But I am interested anyway, because he was like pulling out court docs and everything like them to us. Yeah. And I will say this to you guys, like just straight up. If I'm hearing something on a podcast, if I can't find it myself,
00:03:51
Speaker
Yeah, I'll skip over it because if I can't find the information to me, like I don't want to just like fabricate some random crap. Well, the sad thing is, is you think that if you hear it on the news, it's legit. And that's not what we know better. Yeah, we should know better. Yeah.
00:04:07
Speaker
But either way, so we're just going to go ahead and shout out to the dude that will remain nameless. Thank you very much. And I do appreciate your. You know, don't don't feel weird about like messaging me. No, he was super nice about it. Yeah. Well, I mean, he actually said at one point he didn't know if he was going to message or not. Right. I think so. And we he and I've talked back and forth a lot.
00:04:26
Speaker
Mainly making fun of you. Well, that's the fact that you can't type out a response story in my life. I should have pictures you sent me Well, that's what I'm saying like I have to like I need to be proofread when I say things because sometimes like Unintentionally come off like bitchy, but it's not the intent. There's a reason for that. Yes, we know the reason
00:04:50
Speaker
I'm blunt. OK, if I was just thinking you're anybody that watches the Big Bang Sheldon. OK, I don't say things happily. It's it's it's what I'm thinking. I might not be good at what I'm saying, but I say it and then I get scolded for it. So the things that come out of your mouth are just dumber than what he says. Correct. Is he smart? First of all, I'm going to give the president over here that nobody else can see. May or may not be my middle finger either way. But anyways.
00:05:20
Speaker
We say all that to say we enjoy critique. Hell yeah. Heck yeah, we do. Especially when they're about Lisa. I'm not as good as critique taking. Well, you know, anyway, you know, me and my hummus are going to come over here and be butt hurt. All right. So you just come down.
00:05:38
Speaker
So I
Dating Anecdote and Workplace Reactions
00:05:40
Speaker
guess look at that. I didn't even bring up the fact that you went on a date with some guy you met off the Internet. You psycho, you piece of absolute garbage. Did you think that's what I was going to talk about? No, not only would you not let it go.
00:05:53
Speaker
Nobody at work. Let it go. And we have to do these gimbal walks. And it's it's literally we all are our stations have these boards where we're basically telling you like where we're at with our job. It's all part of this lean, you know, thing to just basically develop your company into like, I got to be honest with you, it sounds like a busy work like when you're at school and your teacher doesn't want to teach. They're like, here do this worksheet. There's nothing to do. Well, honestly, it really is beneficial for the most part.
00:06:21
Speaker
And so I went through my spiel at my gimbal walk this morning and I tell my friends at work, things about my life, right? And anybody that's a true crime follower, you're gonna sit here and you're gonna be like, well, what are you talking about? Well, I have been single for a very long time.
00:06:36
Speaker
and decided to actually meet up with somebody that I met on the internet. And I was kind of nervous freaking out about it a little bit, especially because we do all this every week. I feel like I gave you pretty stellar advice. It was actually kind of funny because I had two of the friends at work. One of them is a very large man.
00:06:57
Speaker
Uh, he's like, where are you guys going? And so I finally broke down, told him where to go. Did you tell him the correct restaurant or the wrong restaurant? No. And I never even told the guy that had you not told me that, like, I would have showed up at the wrong place. But hey, Lisa's great. OK, I don't get lost backing out of my driveway. It's that's not real. It's OK.
00:07:19
Speaker
It's fine. It's fine. Anyway, they were they they were making fun of me so much. And then they were like, we're just going to show up and we're going to sit in the corner. And I sat there like almost half the night waiting, like just peeking over like a whack job is like. Well, he's kind of like one of my like he is like my best friend at work. All right. And.
00:07:39
Speaker
Well, one of which, but I still can't talk about some of the relationships. I have it work because it's a little weird, but I had one of the guys at the gimbal board was like, oh, I have a really great idea for your board. And like we are surrounded by management. OK, this is like from our general manager all the way down, like, you know, yeah, in the whole
Unchanged Society and Women's Safety
00:08:01
Speaker
night.
00:08:03
Speaker
And he said, hey, I have an idea for this. And he played it off smooth, bro. Freaking smooth. And he was so he starts doing equations on the board. OK. And then he's like, so if we have a right and a went out with C. And we multiplied that on a standard between one to 10.
00:08:27
Speaker
How well did your day go last night? And I was like, dude, dude, what is wrong with you? Well, my advice. It was amazing. As her best friend and made her call me. Yeah. Well, actually, I didn't make her. She's freaking out parking lot. I was freaking out power under a very large light where it was illuminated. And I thought her that by the night, she didn't need to let him wear her like a skin suit, pleasurably or not. I state.
00:08:53
Speaker
I mean, sometimes when you got to get it, you got to get it, but then you don't want to get it. So it's very. Don't put the lotion on the skin. It's tricky. Yeah. No, no lotion on the skin for us tonight. No. But now that we've rambled. Yeah. And I really hope to God because he knows I do this podcast and he never, ever actually listens because if you guys in dating long term, I'm going to be like, hey, you don't have to listen to the whole episode, but I need you to listen to number and listen because
00:09:23
Speaker
We discussed you all and your lotioning way your skin All right, I give up on life and now that faith has Wasted what at least 45 minutes at this point? Dang it nine minutes. Really? Mm-hmm. Listen to you talk. You're the one on and on about the gimbal board seems longer
00:09:48
Speaker
because the words of wisdom that spew from my mouth are just hanging on the edge of your seat the whole time. Yeah. Words of wisdom. But as lovely as it is to hear me talk, it's your turn tonight. So on you go. Let me clear my throat.
00:10:03
Speaker
and hope to God that nobody else knows about this case because I'm just going to get told wrong again. You suck. It's OK. Yeah. No, actually, I really didn't care. Here's the podcast. We look up what we can. We research what we can. We give our own opinions. If the facts are wrong, we would love for you to correct us and we will point those out. We will. We will admit that we are wrong.
Audrey's Story and Tragedy
00:10:26
Speaker
Murder just happened on the table of that, Ms. Guato. It's but we like it. But we will gladly. Now he has 18 years worth of research, so we don't have enough time. Do you think it'd be? I literally, literally want to hear everything he had. OK, I'm going to have to just message message him because like I'm invested. I think we should zoom in and have do like a follow up episode with like facts on the show.
00:10:53
Speaker
I'm 100% down with that. I shouldn't have like done that out here on air, but right. Yeah, I thought it would be cool. It's like, I mean, you have that much information, but part two of your story with this is what they reported. But here's all the fact we can do it on the parthenon. Oh, my God. Yeah, it is still a parthenon. I think that anyway. So welcome to Twisted Tales. This is Lisa tonight. I'm going to go ahead and jump in there. We're just going to keep rambling. I'm going to start out with a crap. Why don't I start out with a question?
00:11:22
Speaker
because now I have to listen to you talk again. All right. So Faith, what year are we in 2023? Cool. So I did write that down. Right. Good job, Lisa. All right. So how much how much would you say that times have changed for women in regards to like safety?
00:11:44
Speaker
None. Besides the fact that in Tennessee we can carry without having. Well, I'm asking you like in a regard where. Do you think it's gotten better or you think maybe it's gotten worse? I think that it is hard to answer that question because while it's probably honestly about the same, we hear about crimes more now because of social media and everything else.
00:12:13
Speaker
And then when things happened against women back in the day, they were forced to marry their abusers because, you know, you got raped, you got pregnant. So now you're going to marry the guy that violated you because you know what I mean? Like, so it's hard to say if it's better or worse because they hit it so much back in the day. And today we're so in your face with all of our business. Yeah. Well, you know what, Faith? I like that. I like that. That was a good answer.
00:12:38
Speaker
There's a non answer, but it was an answer. No, I mean, it's it's kind of real life because you like it's really almost an unanswerable question. I mean, it really is because, yeah, like you might have, you know, situation back in the day again, like you said, like hidden, right? Whereas nowadays you have women that don't report it, you know what I mean? Or even men that don't report it. Oh, men never. Gosh, men never.
00:13:03
Speaker
But for women, I feel like you're still kind of in the same boat as we always were. I don't think you have been. I don't think it's any better or worse. Kind of like you're kind of always looking over your shoulder. You know, when you go out to a bar that people always tell you, women, don't leave your drink alone. Yeah. All right. It's just don't wear clothes that look like an invitation. Don't. Well, even that buddy is everything else. Yeah. Well, even that like clothes don't I don't even really think play.
00:13:33
Speaker
a factor in it in some way. Like if you have an evil disturbed mind that's already going to go to that place, it doesn't matter if you're wearing a Moo Moo or a freaking two piece swimsuit. Correct. But he's already that that's like if you're if you're going out as a woman in today's day and age, there's 100 things that you have to be cognizant about.
00:13:54
Speaker
You have to be able to have your cell phone charged. You have to be with people who aren't gonna leave you. You have to have a backup plan. You have to have, you know, the buddy system. There's a hundred things that you have to worry and think about. Well, I mean, truth be told, right? I went on that date and I told people that I was going.
00:14:10
Speaker
OK. Yeah. So not only in my my boss, my boss actually was like the first one, him and the lead of my shift. They were the ones that approached me first thing as soon as I was walking through the door this morning. They're holding their their coffee cups to go. Right.
00:14:27
Speaker
And like in a joking manner, they were like, I'm glad you showed up today. Right. But it's not like I know beyond the shadow of a doubt. Had they known I was going out on a date and I was a no call no show or I wasn't there. Yeah. I ate a clock at least.
00:14:45
Speaker
by 801 802 that have been calling somebody and being like, hey, is Lisa cool? Is she good? Like episode we did last week ago and out with friends took the normal way home and never made it. Yeah. Like nothing has changed. Well, and so that's kind of like. The question that I'm kind of like driving out right now is. You know, where do you stand and who can you trust? So.
00:15:14
Speaker
I'm going to drop us in and August 2012. That's not that bad. No, it's not that bad. I was thinking like seven years. No, no. Well, when you were like today versus back then, I didn't know how far we're going. Like, well, everybody always say that, like women's rights have progressed so much and women's rights and this and that. And, you know, right. So we have more options. Yes. I was going to say our rights is like an individual.
00:15:39
Speaker
They have progressed like a ton, right? And we can speak out against the abuse and not be forced to, you know, wed our, our violators, but it's, yeah, I don't think we're any safer than we were before. And that's kind of biologically we're weaker. Well, yeah. Nine times out of 10 pure physics. That's true. Our bones are smaller. Our stature is lighter. Our muscles don't get as big.
00:16:05
Speaker
Nine times out and they're stronger and faster and can overpower us. Yeah. And they usually have a pack. What? Usually there's more. Oh, a pack of them. Yeah. I mean, I mean, like like a six pack or I'm sorry. Nope. So I'm going to carry us on August 2012 in Saratoga, California, where a young lady by the name of Audrey Pot was 15 years old. She was a sophomore at Saratoga High School.
00:16:32
Speaker
I don't like it when it's. She is on the flag team there and she loves to perform. And so flag team like I couldn't figure out like they called it something else, but like for us down here, it's the flag team. Okay. Yeah. She was very pretty, but much like a lot of teams have like body issues. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, dude. Anybody. I do it now. If you're a female, you know exactly what you can change, right? So.
00:17:01
Speaker
You're thirty seven. Yeah, I'm thirty seven. Gosh, that means I'm so old. Wow. Wow. Why? Because you're thirty eight. No, I'm not thirty eight. I'm thirty seven right now. From thirty eight this year. But you're you're literally I don't ruining my story. I don't keep track of my age. OK, I in my mind, I'm like thirty four, thirty five. I'm not going to lie. I had to do like a math problem not long ago. I lie about my age and I was a coworker that calls me out. And that makes me.
00:17:28
Speaker
OK, cool. This is the year I'm turning right back to California, back to California. All right. So again, much like young teens, I could be thinner. My hair could be better. But while she had all of these, you know, inconsistencies or whatever, she would correct about herself. She was very conservative. OK.
00:17:51
Speaker
I used the wrong word. You did. You did. And but now I can't think of the right word. I know. It's not inconsistent. No, it's not even close. It is not killing me. You're ruining everything. He said the wrong word. This is the lubricating hummus all over again. How many times last week could I have just spent an hour talking about your bubbles? But now I can't think of that. OK. Oh, look, ball drop. Oh, look, ball drop. And they said what?
00:18:20
Speaker
I know I mess up my words, but I mumble and I mispronunciate. Yes. And we're saying entirely wrong. We both know. Wrong word. We both know that I talk way faster than I should. But that was the wrong word. Your mom is the wrong word. And you know what, guys, back in the 90s, that was the best insult ever. So shut up.
00:18:44
Speaker
Like my cigarette you shut your mouth now. Now. I legitimately can't think of the word though. It's not and I know Insecurities, it's Gary dagnabbit We're so dumb and I'm over here trying to figure out where I left off because you're a whore
00:19:02
Speaker
Oh, insecurities. And so how much or how many spikes have I had now at this point because I'm over yelling because now I'm just pissed off. I don't even want to look at you. OK, we're just we're. I was trying to let it go, but I was so confused. Faith, faith, faith. Valacy for the next 30 seconds.
00:19:21
Speaker
Guys, I'm just going to go and warn you this is going to be a two and a half hour podcast because clearly faith can get away. At least that knows how to shut a trap once in a while and just let faith fall in her face and continue to ramble back to California. I have to find my place again. Anyway, she was inconsistently conservative. She was not a girl that wanted to show herself. OK, nothing on all that. Absolutely not.
00:19:50
Speaker
If you ask any of her friends. They tell you that, like, she's wonderful. She's funny, but like in a way that she never felt the need to make fun of other people to be funny. She was. She was a nice person. Yeah. So, you know, good friend. All right. Despite her parents being separated, they both stayed really involved with her life like.
00:20:15
Speaker
I know like a lot of divorce people, it's always like, oh, he did this, blah, blah, blah. But the two of them like together were very involved in her and they still communicated with each other in an amicable way, in an amicable way way to be an adult. And so. Again, I'm going to say like most teenagers, right, we have we have self-esteem issues, right? But we also never tell anybody if we have a problem.
00:20:43
Speaker
Right. We can handle it ourselves. Right. Right. Right. Right. We're getting into trouble. We're we're fine. So now at this point, they're in high school, like I said, choose sophomore. And faith, I'm going to ask another question. I'm I'm I'm going to enter a response from you. So no, but I want to be this is an interactive podcast. Shut your face. I know. Open it when I ask you a question, then shut it when I'm done. OK, that's that's what we need. All right. So.
00:21:11
Speaker
In high school, what do you remember the boys being like? The people I hung out with. They worked out a lot. They played all the sports. They roughed house and they hit on girls. Hit on girls. Right. Because people in their teens have hormones, have hormones, lots of hormones, hormones. So. At their high school at this point in time,
00:21:40
Speaker
You get one girl, just one, who sends a nudie picture. What do you think happens? They all have the nudie picture by the end of that period. Yeah, probably by the end of the period. Right. Apparently, this was like right. It was back then. So she was getting text messages again. This young lady had self-esteem issues. Yes. But she was very well developed. OK.
00:22:07
Speaker
And that hurts you. And when it when it comes to the. You know, develop. Yeah, the the prosthesis. She was endowed. OK, I feel her pain. And this isn't guys. I am not making like a joking manner out of this at all when I say the things that I say, because it's uncomfortable to talk about for me. And again, whenever it falls into like a child thing, I just get weird about it. So just shut up and listen.
00:22:37
Speaker
That's going to keep our one whole viewer. It's fine. They'll be OK. They're used to me by now. So the some of the boys at school, you know, everybody has everybody's number when you're in your certain clicks and this, that and the other. Right. Right. Right. And they would send out a girl, send me a new right. And and she would just shrug it off and she'd be like, never. No. Yeah. Not going to happen.
00:23:05
Speaker
And so Audrey and her friends, they, you know, they would talk about the boys, just like typical girls do, right? Like everybody gets together and they're like, Oh, what do you think about a B and C or whatever? He's cute. He's not, he's a perv. He's weird. Whatever. Yeah. Um, girls locker room talk in a nutshell. So at the end of the conversation that the girls had had one night, it was pretty much like they just kind of swear to each other. Like we're not, we're not sending nudies.
00:23:34
Speaker
of each other because or not of each other but of ourselves good for them right like we just play it play it safe so one of Audrey's friends a close one of her close friends actually invited her to a party her parents were out of town don't go to the party Audrey agreed well I mean it's high school faith who hasn't gone like who hasn't done that you know what I mean okay well
00:24:04
Speaker
You really were kind of sheltered. Yeah. My parents actually like told me to go do things and I was like, no, I don't want to do that. But like, I just like I want the adults listening to put yourself in this in this frame of mind. Yeah. OK, like because we've all done it. Some of us have done it. Yeah. OK.
00:24:30
Speaker
And like one of the things that I wrote, and I think I may have even back paused or whatever, but like we all did dumb things when we were teenagers. When we were in our twenties, probably even a bit worse, right? Right. But we all kind of, I feel like got like the lucky end of that where nothing bad. And there wasn't social media to immortalize it forever. Well, I mean, I don't even like at this point,
00:25:01
Speaker
I'm just saying in general. Was it really the luck of the draw or was it? Could it have been something else? You know what I mean? I don't know. Anyways, so. Chick invites her to the party. Conservative girl, Ms. Audrey wants to look good, but she doesn't really want to reveal anything, right? Right. And so she's.
00:25:27
Speaker
like try and stop on sending pictures to her friends. Is this OK? Is it not OK? And her friends are basically telling her what? You look great. You look great. No, the exact opposite. Oh, show more flesh. Pretty much. So the cleavage. Yeah. Well, she found her outfit. Was not super revealing, but revealing like enough right to where you can be sexy, but not
00:25:56
Speaker
showing everything you got. Yeah. And so she took off to the party. I wish you wouldn't have a good feeling on this party situation. She arrived a little bit before some of her other friends. Her friends that arrived at the party said that Audrey was pretty much drunk by the time that she got there. And
00:26:27
Speaker
I'm sorry, there's a fruit fly flying right in my face is pissing me off anyways. They they
Trust, Communication, and Prevention
00:26:36
Speaker
said that by the time they got there, they had never really seen Audrey. So. I mean, she was drunk, but like. I'm looking for a different word here, like she was. Unlike herself, I was going to say someone slipped her roofie, I feel like.
00:26:56
Speaker
No, it wasn't anything like she just let go. Like she just let go. She was like, I'm going to go out and I'm going to have a freaking good time. And nobody's going to stop me from having a good time. Right. You do you boo boo? Yeah. In a nutshell. So she was kind of hammered by the time her friends got there. So Faith, what happens when you mix alcohol and a bunch of dumb teenagers?
00:27:26
Speaker
Never anything smart or good. Great ideas, right? You know, bad ideas, great ideas, ideas that you get. You get one horny teenager who stands up and he's like, let's play spin the bottle. No, let's not. And so they do. Of course, they do. So these drunk teens decide to play. The other friends that are arrived way, way not as drunk as everybody else who had already been there. Right. OK.
00:27:56
Speaker
So who does the bottle land on Audrey? And Audrey winds up kissing one of her friends crushes, which caused her to get upset. This is this is such high school drama. I know. I know. Right. That was my Monica impression. You're welcome. Like she got really upset about it, but it wasn't like it's not like I'm going to get I'm going to get so mad that I'm just going to storm out like it was nothing like that.
00:28:25
Speaker
Um, so she kisses, dude. Her friends are recognizing at this point, like they're literally just sitting there talking to each other and they're like, this is not something's happening, right? I've never seen her so bad off. OK, so her friends at that point were like, hey, Audrey, why don't we go to bed? The good friends, you know what I mean?
00:28:49
Speaker
We'll take you upstairs. Audrey did not listen to that. They they got her halfway up the stairs. Audrey was like, no, I'm going back downstairs already. Right. And she just went back down. But here's the deal. You are surrounded by your classmates, your friends, your homies.
00:29:06
Speaker
There's no reason for her to feel, I'm sorry, unsafe at that point. When these are all people she knows. You're a teenager, nothing bad can ever happen to you. So Audrey continues drinking.
00:29:20
Speaker
And her friends started to feel uncomfortable because everything just kind of going to the next level. Yeah. Yeah. And so they left. Well, plus you can tell that something her behavior is off. It sounds like just her. It was the majority of the people. Oh, everybody's getting hyped. And you don't give much. You drag them out. Yeah. It is time to go. Well, here's another question that I have for you.
00:29:49
Speaker
In your teenage years, are you really like equipped to handle a situation like that? No, not so much. No. Right. So the next morning, Audrey woke up, found herself covered in green marker. Oh, OK. No, it was on her arms. It was on her legs. Even her privates. That's not a good sign. There were very inappropriate things written on her body, according to the sources.
00:30:19
Speaker
of what they wrote, they didn't really say what was written. Right. So we'll just skip over that. But she went looking for her phone, couldn't find it, called her mom from the landline and was like, Mom, come get me. But I thought her parents were out of town. Are they back? No, no, this was the friends parents were at. OK. She was the one that threw the party. No, I thought Audrey's parents are out of town. That's why she went.
00:30:45
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No. OK. No, I'm so sorry. And you might have said that I might have just misunderstood. So. Mom came to pick her up. She knew something was wrong. Like immediately, like most moms do. Right. And she started just kind of questioning Audrey. Audrey didn't want to talk about it. And like teenagers do shut down. Right. We're not talking about this. I don't care. Whatever. She didn't say a word to her mom or her dad about anything that had happened.
00:31:15
Speaker
Well, did she even remember what happened, though? I mean, in all honesty. So I drew again reaching out to some of her female friends. Yeah. That were at the party and saying, dude, I woke up. I had these drawings all over me. It was everywhere, including under my underwear. Oh, that's got to be the words like. I can't remember anything, guys, please. Anybody just tell me what happened. OK, anybody. But her friends left. They weren't there for that part.
00:31:43
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Well, no, not all of her friends. It was just the two that were so. Gotcha. OK, so. The girls had absolutely no idea, right? She began reaching out to her male friends who were all there and swore up and down. They carried her upstairs. They put her to bed and everyone went to bed and she could just had no idea what happened.
00:32:07
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Basically, OK, and guys like I know everybody always has that stigma of dude, I cheated on you, but I was like drunk and whatever. Y'all, when you're blackout drunk, you don't remember. You don't remember. Yeah, like literally. It's not a lie. It's not a way to get out of the fact that you did something stupid. You. Couldn't control yourself long enough to put the bottle down.
00:32:31
Speaker
and say I've had enough and go night night. Yeah. Okay. Like you literally blackout. Yeah. Whatever happens. The term is blackout happens. Yeah. Like you can like remember portions of the night, but you're not going to remember. No. No way. All right. Especially when you're young like that and.
00:32:51
Speaker
It doesn't sound like this was her normal M.O. for the weekend. And I was going to say, so they're sitting there and they're dropping a ton of beer and liquor. First of all, any any strong adult knows mixing crap. Never a good idea. OK, but. For a kid, everything is just like, oh, we got our hands on this. We got our hands on this. This is what we're drinking tonight, right? I hate that. Yeah. Yeah. So.
00:33:20
Speaker
At school, things got really weird for her. It wasn't until one of her friends told her that apparently there were pictures circulating around the school of her. And Audrey tried to ignore what was going on, but the photos were being passed out. Shoot, the photos were of her passed out naked. And. I mean, honestly, y'all just make up your own mind.
00:33:50
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OK, about what happened, what the kids were doing. It wasn't right. Consent. It was it was it was teen boys. But the more she tried to move on and the more like the more in her face it got. And Audrey had absolutely no recollection of what happened to her. Every every single bit of information she was learning was new to her. So now
00:34:21
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I don't like like I said. When you're blackout drunk, you don't remember crap. Yeah. She wanted to move schools, begged her parents. I thought about it. Turns out. Guess what, Faith? Social media follows you. Well, the other schools already apparently had knowledge of this. OK. Great. And she felt alone.
00:34:51
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Abused. And I rated right by extremely extremely embarrassed, embarrassed so much so that she wouldn't even tell her parents what was going on with her. So you have this little girl who went out for one night and. Just wanted to like live her life, right? Just do do the wrong thing. She just wanted to make a few bad decisions on exactly every every party, no matter what kind of kids you are, even if you're that good kid that doesn't do anything wrong.
00:35:21
Speaker
Y'all have, y'all get to that point where you just want to make some bad decisions. Like, I just want to see what it's like. All my friends do it. They look like they have fun. Yeah. It just never, it never goes well. So good one. She actually started cutting herself. Um, but she, she didn't do it in like a random like line. She did it like everywhere. Uh, one of her friends actually saw the marks that were in her arm.
00:35:48
Speaker
And Audrey was like, oh, I, you know, I broke a face. It sliced me open. Teenager friend like, oh, OK. Right. Because again. Teenager friend probably like that doesn't look right. But then at the same time, what teenager is equipped? There's not a deal with that with that kind of emotion, right? No, they don't they don't understand what to do with that. Yeah. And so they believed her and moved on.
00:36:20
Speaker
So. So earlier we talked about her kissing a dude that her friend liked or whatever. Yeah. Spin the bottle. Spin the bottle. Such a great game, especially when you're hammered. She actually got confronted by that girl. It's been the bottle. You don't get to pick where the bottle lands. Well, yeah, but you're still just a butthead because you you did it, right?
00:36:48
Speaker
Again, teenage logic is so dumb. I had it to get it. But anyways, so confronts her. She's like, dude, you've changed this out in the other blah, blah, blah. OK, so now you have this girl. Who is going through hell. Yeah. And she knows that all these pictures are out here of her. Right. Mm hmm. And now one of her friends, one of her best friends is like, basically, I think you're a crap.
00:37:18
Speaker
Right. I don't think that that's her like, no, it wasn't at all. She was just jealous and angry because it wasn't her lips against dude's face. OK. But again, when you're when you're a teenage girl, that's the end of your world. Well, OK. Here's the thing. Here's the different spectrums of men and women. Right. Where guys are like, I want to see your boobs. Right. Women are like.
00:37:43
Speaker
I want to have intimacy, right? Right. And so when you see the guy that you love or crush on as a teenage, you love. That's that is your that is OK. Yeah. Fair enough. Right. Making out with your very best friend who has absolutely no interest in you whatsoever. What do you think? Are you going to blame him?
00:38:02
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No, of course, it's never the guy's fault. Your best friend should have been like, no, I can't do this, which honestly, probably not an unfair assessment, right? You know, but nobody's going to stop a game and spend the bottle and be like, hey, my best friend has because then everybody else is going to be like, oh, you.
00:38:20
Speaker
Blah, blah, blah. Hey, guys. Welcome back. We have to take care of some family drama, and I'm not 100 percent sure where we left off. It's like an hour since we hit pause. I think what? Thirty five minutes of that was actually recorded. Yeah, children. So we'll put that on the par's anon of me battling it out with apparently a third grader, not a second grader. No, he's third, third and
00:38:49
Speaker
Sweet Mary. He's either going to rule a CEO room or prison gang. One of them. He's going to be. Thanks. Yeah. No, he's probably going to be the president. Damn it. He's like he's in charge. What did you say? Well, anyway. All right. So.
00:39:09
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We talked about how one of Audrey's friends approached her and basically just kind of was like, you know, you're not the person that you were. Yeah, that's where we were. Is that the other thing? Right. And at that point, Audrey, like. Could not have felt more alone.
00:39:27
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Yeah, she's not yet. She's already like trying to. And she's. Yeah. Well, she's at school at this point when when the confrontation happens and she's like, I just I want to leave. Right. So she calls her mom. I understand that. And I want to. Mom comes to get her from school. Mom picks her up again. New new. Something's happened. Something's up. OK. And like moms out there, dads out there. When you're when you're a kid,
00:39:55
Speaker
has that face like, you know, oh, and the shit part of it is. You could try and try and try, but unless the kid wants to talk about it, they're not going to say a damn thing, right? There are some stubborn kids that don't give a bitch. Shut up. Yeah, I'm sorry. Rewind. That's what happened anyways. Hmm.
00:40:23
Speaker
Oh, Lord, there's not enough booze in the world for my life anyway. Anyway, mom, mom picks her up. No, no. Something's up again. Audrey would not. She like just, you know, mom can press her as much as she wants. I'm fine. Everything's great. Honky donky. Right. Mom pulls into the driveway.
00:40:49
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And at this point, like mom felt like Audrey was like upset with her, probably for just like crying a lot. And it made really it. Well, it could not have even been that at all. Like it could have just been simply the fact that she's overwhelmed and doesn't know what to do. Her life is literally spiraling spiraling. OK. And so according to like the interview that I watched. Mom basically was just like,
00:41:20
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you know, based on past experiences, it's better to let her cool off. Yeah. So in my life, most people that know me when I get to that point, what do you do, Faith? Do you keep on pressing me for information? Personally, yes, I typically do because I don't know when to stop. And I know if I get you mad enough, you're just going to start screaming everything that's wrong with you or
00:41:48
Speaker
Are you're going to throw punch me? That's a strong possibility, right? But for this mom and most normal people, most people wouldn't know me back down because you're not backing down. It's I'm going to give you the I'm going to give you the moment. That's what I mean. Back down. You calm. Just calm down. And then we'll talk about this later. Reconvene. OK. So that's what mom chose to do, which is mom was like very hard. She is clearly upset.
00:42:16
Speaker
And I'm I'm not going to keep forcing my hand on this. I know something's wrong with her. But let me maybe if she just takes a few breaths. Cops yourself down. Come talk to me afterwards. Yeah. Well, maybe not even come talk to me, but I'll come back out and we can talk about this. OK, I'll confront her again. Yeah. And everything is. Will come out or, you know, whatever.
00:42:43
Speaker
So mom sits, goes, do whatever, you know, scrambles around for a little bit. Maybe 10, 15 minutes later, according to her statement, she couldn't wait no more. And she went to check on. So she went to Audrey's bedroom, but the door was open. Audrey wasn't in her bedroom. And so her mom, you know, I mean, I like.
00:43:13
Speaker
I feel like it probably wasn't. Conveyed enough, maybe what that mom was going through, like, because I feel like if that was that mom at that moment, you're not just going to go to the bedroom bedroom, be like, oh, Audrey's not there. Yeah.
00:43:30
Speaker
You're going to start yelling for. Yeah. Right. And this again, got here. Here's speculation. It's not OK. Yeah, this is not evidential in anything that I've seen or watched or this is just our opinion based on what we would do. I didn't document any of this based on somebody's podcast, whatnot. Yeah. I can only imagine for myself as a mom, what I would that if I walked upstairs, my my kid told me, you know, I'm going upstairs, whatever, and they're not in the bedroom.
00:44:00
Speaker
The majority of the doors are open. You don't know where she's at. Yeah. And you're you're going to start yelling. Are you where you where you at? Right. Right. So the bathroom doors closed. OK. So she knocked on the door. Call it out for twist of the knob. Knob is locked. OK. No response. The bathroom, though. So basically.
00:44:28
Speaker
bangs on the door, she's like, Audrey, open the door or I'm gonna break it down. I don't like where this is going just because of the content we cover. So again, bangs on the door, screams out loud, open the door or I'm breaking it down. No response. Okay. So mom busts the door down. Good mom. And
00:44:55
Speaker
What she found is not something that a parent should ever have to witness. Audrey hung herself with a belt. And she was like hanging by the shower. So mom grabs her up, right? Because when you're in that moment, you're not going to.
00:45:18
Speaker
It's like caution to the wind. Yeah, obviously. So mom grabs her up and does everything from her neck, calls the ambulance. Ambulance arise, arrives. Aubrey, Audrey, sorry, still has a slight pulse. Gosh, that's so they rushed her to the ER. Where she was put in the ICU. Her father arrived soon after.
00:45:46
Speaker
He heard the news, everything that had happened. And when he got there, the doctors told both mom and dad. It's pretty strong possibility at this point that she's brain dead. OK, so her dad said like he kind of peered through the window like looking at her. Yeah. And. He was like. Like she was she was laying there.
00:46:15
Speaker
And her eyes were open. He was like, but I knew she was gone. Yeah. Right. And so he quoted at that at that point, he was like, I just kept telling myself to breathe just one breath at a time. Everything's going to be OK. Just one breath. Just just breathe. OK, so now I'm sitting here as a parent and I'm like. So he had enough cognitive strength
00:46:43
Speaker
Because you're being put in a situation at this point where your kid is on life support. Yeah. There's nothing there. No. And you're you're sitting here going through. A parent's worst nightmare. Oh, yeah. And you know, at that moment, like your control is gone. It's gone. Yeah. So the only thing that you can concentrate that moment. Is you.
00:47:14
Speaker
Just breathe. And as a parent, like I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, I'm sorry, I'm going to get emotional, but. To have that kind of mental strength. No. No, but this is what like a man is capable. Yeah, there's. Yeah, because you cannot tell me his whole soul. Oh, and his being gone wasn't ripped out. Oh, it's gone. So he was emotionally.
00:47:43
Speaker
physically capable enough to not just understand what was happening. Yeah. But still be able to be there for the wife he divorced. Oh, I forgot they were divorced. So these two are now together. Mom, again, we are wired so totally differently. Yeah.
00:48:12
Speaker
Mom's losing it. Yeah. Dad's over here and he's like, just breathe. Just just breathe. Just breathe. That's all you can do. Nothing is going to be OK at this point. Nothing is going to to make sense at this point. Just breathe. Like literally just focus on the one thing that you don't even have to think about to do, but focus on that. To just focus somewhere. And to me, guys, like I like I don't want to like
00:48:39
Speaker
put a star in that moment for just the one guy, but like. Man, woman, whatever child, because they all go through it, too. Yeah, when you when you're emotionally distraught. And able to rise above that. And still be able to be the person that people need. She is so incredible to me. OK, so that's I'll cut that off there, but. Damn, all right.
00:49:10
Speaker
So. Sorry for the cough. That was probably loud. I got to edit a lot of this out anyway. I'm sorry. Just because I know I went off for 30 minutes recording didn't thought we were pause. So, you know, yeah, we could leave it in.
00:49:25
Speaker
And then people could get a real taste of what life is like. Then people will think I'm not the nice one anymore. No, no, no, no. Lisa couldn't get up and go anywhere because Lisa was about to slam her head into the fridge. I would like to know you were saying when you were alone in the garage.
00:49:43
Speaker
Please don't. Oh, fuck. No, actually, I'm pretty sure that I was quiet. I was just sitting there like just shaking and softly crying in the background. I've got a punching bag, literally two feet. I think I hit it like three or four times. So you might hear the chains wiggling, but that's about it. Right. Hmm. You have to edit that out today. That was. Yeah, you said that word. I did. I'll edit that part out.
00:50:11
Speaker
Sorry, I'm frustrated anyway. So their family, everybody that loves cares about you, right? Everybody always always meets in the middle when it comes to a situation like this. Yeah, they rally. She's in the ICU. They're rallying around her. Thank you. That's the best word I could think of. And they start praying for. They like literally anything that they could do.
00:50:36
Speaker
Yeah, we're going to run this test. We're going to run that test. And then the doctors were just like, guys, like, I'm sorry, but. There's nothing there's no brain activity. Yeah, there's like nothing, nothing. OK, so. The two parents. This divorced couple get together. And they made a decision that no parent should ever have to make.
00:51:02
Speaker
No. OK. Do we keep her on life support and take a chance or do we take her off to let her go? Right. Sorry, I'm getting emotional again. So they chose to let her go. And they also chose to donate her organs. She's OK. I'm sorry. They donated her organs to people that were in need. And the mom even was quoted saying like,
00:51:35
Speaker
My daughter may not have lived, but through her, other people will live. Yeah, right. No. It was along those lines. I'm not going to say that's what it was verbatim, but in a nutshell, that was the sentiment. Yeah. So this sweet, funny, loving conservative girl was gone. Over one night, over one. Yeah. And
00:52:05
Speaker
So that afternoon, they announced at her school that Audrey had passed. Her close friends obviously devastated, rattled with guilt. Right. Because any time any time anybody passes, I could have done more like when any time is something unexpected like that, like like we had a cousin that passed away of overdose. Mm hmm.
00:52:29
Speaker
Well, could we have spoken more into his life? Is there anything that we could have done? Like, whatever, you know, everybody always has that. I will show you right here. You can show me, but you're not going to show 11, 12, 2018. The final text on my phone. Jenna is from Jenna, a friend of mine. We were talking a one tree hill thing got announced. I sent it to her.
00:52:53
Speaker
I was going on the family vacation because we do a cruise every year over New Year's instead of doing Christmas presents for the big kids. And it was not even a full 30 days after that text message that she died in the car crash.
00:53:06
Speaker
And she, her organs were donated, but I to this day still have that last text where we were talking. Yeah. And it's, and it is the same thing. Like we should have hung out. We always just talked about how like, it's not even like we should have gotten together and we should have done more. Right. Like I, you know, I, I should have, I should have just taken the time. Like.
00:53:27
Speaker
You always think that when someone dies. Even if it's a frickin' grandparent that's like 95 years old and you're like, I could have picked the weeds out of her garden. There's always more that you can do and as people we always focus on what we should have done, not what we did.
00:53:44
Speaker
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, Jenna and I didn't hang out all the time like we did when we were in high school. But we still were both married. Right. Right. But we still like we took that any time, anything, any of either of us saw something at this point that we thought about the other one. It was always immediate. Oh, my God. I mean, actually came into play. Right. But the moment that you hear the words and you hear this, you're not going to see this person again.
00:54:10
Speaker
Like it literally you always yeah, you could be with somebody every single day. Mm hmm. And and and think to yourself when they're gone, I could have told them I love them. Just one more time. Always. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Exactly. Especially in this case.
00:54:28
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where they didn't know how to handle the situation. They left her there and something happened and it was horrible and she couldn't live with what happened to her. And every friend that left
00:54:41
Speaker
thought we should have forced her. But they, I mean, they, I mean, they tried to take her out. They're, they're, I don't care that they're in high school. They're babies. Like they don't have life. It's exactly what you and I were just talking about. Life kicks you in the teeth.
00:54:59
Speaker
Every single day, like as an adult, every single day here and even say life as an adult, but even as guys like even as an adult, you make dumb choices. But I mean, as a adult, at least we have like the cognitive ability of hindsight and we can.
00:55:16
Speaker
see and make, you know, we we understand these things when you're a teenager, when you're a kid, you don't like, but it is the end of your world. What was the question that I started this whole thing out with? Right. Our girls. No, no, no, no, no. My title. Who can you trust? Who can you trust? Nobody. And that that is a complex that travels with you your entire life. Yeah. Your existence.
00:55:46
Speaker
Whether you're a boy or a girl, a man or a woman, then it doesn't matter. Trust is something. That you have to give. Fearlessly. Because if you don't give it fearlessly, where are you going to go? Nowhere. Yeah, you're not going to trust anybody. You're not going to trust your partner. You're not going to trust your kids, your boss, whatever. It's like almost a mindless.
00:56:18
Speaker
It's not even emotion. Like it's, I don't have a choice. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I know that might sound stupid, but I don't think trust is an emotion. It's not feeling. I honestly, like, I mean, and this is just, this is real. Like, this is me going to be miserable. I don't think as people,
00:56:47
Speaker
that we actually do trust. Because here's the deal. And this is what I mean by it. I trust my husband. I love my husband.
00:56:59
Speaker
But I still have like, I mean, not like a contingency plan. Like he's going to leave me. He's stuck with me till the day he dies. Unfortunately for him. Right. Yeah. I decided those papers. There ain't no, there ain't no get out of jail clause. Where are you going? Nowhere, bro. But like my boss, like I trust my boss to keep me employed. I trust him to like pay the bills and not be an embezzling jerk that's going to like
00:57:25
Speaker
go bankrupt, but on the other hand, I home my skills and I know that I'm really good at my job and I can get another job if he screws. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's easy to say that we can trust. It's easy for me to say that I trust him to run the business knowing that if he doesn't, I'll just go quote unquote trust somewhere else. I honestly, I trust myself. Like I trust my skill level. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah.
00:57:51
Speaker
But like here, here's, I think we get blindly touching. I think we, I think when you're a child, you learn at some point that that in that, like you learn that I'm going to jump off this tower and my dad's going to catch me and I'm going to jump off this tower and my dad's going to catch me. And that is blind trust. But that first time he drops you. First time you hit too hard on the ground, you hurt yourself and you learn.
00:58:23
Speaker
He can't catch me every time is when you realize like, I trust you to catch me, but I'm going to say, Hey, you ready? Cause you're never going to just jump again. Like you jump, you jump, you jump. And sometimes they're not even looking at the kid, just jumps and expects the dad to know. But that first time you hit, you might trust him to catch you, but you also trust yourself a little bit more to be like, Hey, you ready? Yeah.
00:58:49
Speaker
So I think it's learned then and from then on out, we trust ourselves to put ourselves in situations where we're not going to get hurt. We're going to make sure that those arms are ready to catch us when we jump. Right. And so they're not ready. You don't have a 15 year old girl who was at a party with the people that are friends were her friends. And that's I feel like. Listen. No girl.
00:59:20
Speaker
is going to be a victim or no. Hold on. No girl. Is going to lie about being victimized in this way. Right. At that age. OK, well, you got the one off. I don't know how to explain what I'm trying to say. So. You sit here and you talk about an adult kind of trust.
00:59:50
Speaker
But when you're developing trust, the only trust that you've ever seen is the trust of your parents. Yeah. And what's instilled in you. And as a kid, as a teenager, your kids, you trust them, your friends, not kids. Hold on. How many of us as adults and there are parents out there, OK, that are like this? Who are going to tell a 15 year old kid
01:00:21
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Here's what's out here. This is what could happen. And you gotta watch yourself. Unfortunately, not enough parents. Well, no, this is not parent shaming either. No, no, no, no. It's an uncomfortable. You want to protect their innocence as long as you can. Yeah. It's exactly what you and I were just talking about off the air on our long pause there. You want to make excuses for your kids and why they behave a certain way or why they act a certain way.
01:00:49
Speaker
You want to protect them and you want to protect their innocence and you want to protect all this stuff. But again, life kicks you in the teeth every frickin day. So I guess I think I think my question is like how how far is a parent? Do you have to go in this day and age?
01:01:07
Speaker
You gotta go all the way. Yeah, it's pretty freaking far my kids in first grade since before she started kindergarten We talk about like if we're in a store and someone grabs you right now, what do you do? Yeah, like we have really hard uncomfortable conversations that I maybe she's not ready for But I'm not preparing. I've got to prepare her to be a functioning Successful member of the society and unfortunately innocence is not part of that. No
01:01:33
Speaker
Not even close. And y'all can sit here and judge us or whatever for what we say, but, like, fact of the matter. Your child could get ripped from your arms at a Walmart. Right. OK, there's videos of it. That's fact. Yeah. And it's just like the conversation we've had 100 times on this podcast.
01:02:00
Speaker
You have the conversation with your kid that an adult does not need a child's help. Yeah. If an adult comes to my kid at the park and says, hey, I've lost my dog or I lost my daughter, will you help me find her? My kid's going to look and say, nope, you don't need my help. I'm a kid. You're an adult. Yeah. Let's go get my mom now and then start screaming. Here's the deal. I'm going to I'm going to flip this completely and I'm going to say. We both know that what whatever rating our podcast is. Yeah.
01:02:29
Speaker
There's a kid listening to it. OK, so I'm going to speak out to them for a second and say. Guys. I don't I don't care. If your parents are just a crapshoot. OK, at least you did what you could. Right. Here's the deal. Your mom, your dad, your grandma, your aunt, your uncle, the people that surround you that love you.
01:02:58
Speaker
Your teachers, too, for God's sake. Mm hmm. Your guidance counselors. OK, there's somebody that you can talk to. And if something happens to you. That you know. Beyond the shadow of a doubt, this isn't cool. You got to go to somebody. Yeah, you cannot live your entire life holding shit like that in like you can.
01:03:24
Speaker
It's physically impossible. OK. And you want to know who hears the brunt of my crap now at 37 is the lady sitting across from me right now. OK. Yeah. And there's always been somebody there that's going to listen to my crap. You got to unload and I'll be real. I'm like the worst thing that you could possibly do as a human being is hold it in because if you're holding it in and nobody knows the dark,
01:03:53
Speaker
And it's never brought to the light. There is no light there. There is nobody there to hold you accountable. There's nobody there to tell you, I don't care what you're feeling right now. I don't care what the hell they did to you. I fucking love you. And there's nothing that you're going to do ever, ever to make me stop. No. And quite frankly, there's nothing. And I mean this with all the love of my heart and with all the compassion in my heart.
01:04:22
Speaker
There's whatever you're going through that's so awful isn't worth what you think, what your plans are. If you plan to kill yourself, what you're going through might seem like the end of the world. The sun still comes up the next day and there's another shot at making it better.
01:04:42
Speaker
And you know, like there's once, once you, once you go through those plans, there is no more sunlight. There is no more chances. There's no more possibility. And it's a, it is such, it's like when it's like breaking your arm. Yeah. It hurts. Put a cast on it and you, you make stronger. You've got to heal and it hurts and it sucks to heal, but you can heal. And that it's movement again.
01:05:10
Speaker
There is no stagnant place in your life ever. There is no stagnant. OK, guys, I don't care if you're three. Fifteen or forty five. You do not have a stagnant place in life because that is what life is. Yeah, it's life. There's always a new dawn. There's always a new day. I got to be honest with you.
01:05:36
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Wow, we got so up to off topic. This is going to show. I would literally rather you tell me a story of someone chopping people up and eating them for years. In a story like this.
01:05:57
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Because because there is nothing you are. If you are in this entire world. No, there is nothing worse in this entire world than feeling like you're alone, that nobody will understand. But knowing that dark, dark ass place, but it's always a lie. That's I know it's a lie. Like no matter how like you couldn't have crappy parents. Not everybody has good parents. I 100 percent understand that.
01:06:24
Speaker
Sometimes you don't have a great friend in your life, but there's always someone that's going to miss you. Whether it's just like, say you work as a cashier to grocery store. I had to break it to you. I had to break it to you. Even if you don't think that somebody is ever going to miss you, someone's going to. I want you to flip that. I don't want you to think to yourself. I want you to think to yourself. If I am so desperate to die. If I am so desperate.
01:06:55
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to get away from everything. What's my purpose? Well, it doesn't help them, quite frankly, because they don't feel like they have a purpose. Like when you're that lost in hope and darkness, you don't have a purpose that no one is going to miss you. Like they don't see that. No, but what I want people to see is to see the love in that.
01:07:17
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and the light in that. But they don't. That's my point is they don't. Well, here's the deal. We have a platform that we're sitting here right now and somebody could be listening to that and thinking to myself, that's exactly where I'm at right now. Why bother? I'm going to tell you why you bother because two months from now, 10 years from now.
01:07:36
Speaker
All that, all this doesn't mean all this. Yeah, none of the. Like you literally could be fucking anything that you said the bad word again. I'm sorry, but I'm passionate at this point. I'm going to have to edit so so long. You don't have to edit. Nobody listens. I don't care. I don't like that for it in there. Sorry. But what I'm saying is, but it's something as simple as like literally I grasp it. I grasp it. I go to the same gas station every morning on my way to work to get my Red Bulls every morning.
01:08:06
Speaker
And there's one cashier there and her name is Liz. And I love Liz. She's awesome. She's got my bread bowls waiting for me on the counter. She knows not to bag it. She knows, you know, she knows everything. She knows my whole routine. And I love Liz. She's kind. We always, we always sit there and kind of cut up for a second, talk to her and I'll leave. And the day she's like, if I go in and she's not there, like I know her day's off. Yeah. And I'll ask, where's Liz? Oh, she had car trouble this morning. Oh, she overslept.
01:08:36
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I don't, I don't know her last name. I don't know where she lives. Like I literally know nothing about her, but if she's not there, it affects my morning and I know it's not right. Like it might not be the biggest impact in the world, but I would notice that she never showed back up. Yeah. And so that's my point. Like, yeah, I'm not her best friend. I'm not, I don't know everything about her. I don't know if she's got kids or she's married.
01:09:03
Speaker
But it would still affect my more than I'm saying to you. It's not about how it affects you. It's how it affects the people that feel that way. But no, what I'm saying is that I want you for a second. Oh, my God. What I'm saying is if Liz was depressed and Liz thinks at nobody, I have nobody in my life. I don't matter, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. And she killed herself. I would notice.
01:09:31
Speaker
Even though she doesn't think even though we're not close, even though we're not best friends, I would notice she was gone. Right. I'd miss her in the morning. But here's the deal. You can notice and miss. What I'm trying to tell people that feel that way. Is that it doesn't matter how you feel in a moment, because a moment is fleeting. I get that it doesn't last a lifetime. Yeah, we already we already we hammered that nail down. I'm saying.
01:10:00
Speaker
even when you don't think you matter, people still notice you and like you do. And I agree with that. I'm going on another track. No, I'm just saying. And since we went down this horrible, horrible thread of suicide, trigger warning will be put in the show notes. There will be some there will be some hotline information if there's lots of hotlines that you can call.
01:10:27
Speaker
If you need someone just to sit there and talk to you can call, you can email us. You can Facebook messengers us. We'll talk to you. Yeah. I mean, we are not the most, I will absolutely sit here and tell you, we're not the nicest people don't sit here. Yeah. You know, when it comes to, yeah, when it comes to stuff, love, we're there boy.
Impact of Choices and Personal Purpose
01:10:46
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Yeah. We are never going to make you feel insignificant. No, because you know what? Both of us have been there. Nobody's insignificant. Everybody matters.
01:10:55
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And I know that's like happy, happy Mr. Rogers, but literally everybody, everybody impacts. It's all a ripple. Like you affect everyone around you either for the good or bad. It's your choice, but you still affect everyone. You know, and there's, that's actually kind of funny, but I've always said to myself.
01:11:13
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Like every choice that you make affects somebody else. A hundred percent. Everyone around and people will like disagree with that. But this not like you could wear a hot pink shirt to to work. Yeah. Somebody's going to look at that shirt and be like, oh, my God, that hurts my eyes. Right. That's my favorite color. I love it. Exactly. Literally everything you do affects everyone around you. Everything. And whether you think somebody cares or don't,
01:11:44
Speaker
You're not going to know that. And quite frankly, you may never know that. Let's say worst case scenario. Worst case scenario. You legit like you've got no friends, no family, nothing going for you. I'm kind of there right now. No, you've got you've got a kid. You've got family. I'm talking like legit someone with nobody. Like you've got nothing. OK, fine. You're in a bad spot. I 100 percent understand that.
01:12:13
Speaker
Change it. It sucks. It's going to hurt for a while, but work that out. Keep making strides. And a year from now, you can be in a different place. Say it's not even just like, hey, work that out. Like, no, I mean, like the arm, like I was using the arm illustration, the broken arm, like work it out, like you're working your arm out like it's going to hurt. Well, you probably should have said that. I should have. I just figured we're going to keep up with my train of thought. No.
01:12:41
Speaker
I don't keep up with anything that you say. You've had a sick talk a lot. People in our audience, maybe you not have had is they don't drink as much because they don't have to build me on a daily basis. Well, they don't have to deal with my life on a daily basis. You have to deal with me anyway. Guys, I'm sorry, that was a huge tyrant, but we're only saying it because like like tomorrow is always different. And tomorrow for you may still be crap.
01:13:11
Speaker
But that doesn't mean that a week from now or a year from now. It's not going to be different. OK, because now. Everybody has their purpose. Everybody knows and. You can hate yourself. You can hate the people around you. Fact is. You have a reason and that's as mushy as I'm going to get.
01:13:39
Speaker
And I'm done now. So I'm going to get back to my story. It's not over. No, not even close. Good Lord is a long podcast. I told you. I told you that. Laying that I talk too long. Well, well, you. I thought we were wrapping it up at the end here. Not even close. No. Oh, sweet Mary. Did you talk? All right. So let's just. Well, we'll have to record how much faith talk during this podcast. Compared to me anyway.
01:14:08
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So again, they announced her her passing.
High School Incident and Justice System
01:14:13
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At school, her close friends again, devastated. Yeah. Rettled with guilt. Rettled with guilt, obviously. And they just like, what can I have done, right? How did I not know she was depressed? How did I not know she was upset? The fact is, is they kind of did. Right. But they.
01:14:39
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and their minds at that point like couldn't really fathom what was happening. And here's the deal, guys, like this is a totally different scenario. This is not a norm. OK, now, like, oh, my parents argue or I'm not, you know, exactly. Socially accepted. Right. Like, those are like the norms for high school. Right. OK.
01:15:09
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Oh, you know, I'm in band and people make fun of me or I'm a cheerleader and the other kids hate me or whatever. This is a completely different ball game. Yeah, she she was violating their little minds, their little minds don't have any idea. And so they're bashing themselves. Yeah. Well, how could you not? Yeah, right. 100 percent.
01:15:40
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Anyway. So. The friend that confronted her and I felt bad for her when I heard she killed herself. Well. She. Kind of. Like, obviously, probably felt pretty damn bad about it was the day. Yeah, yeah. And.
01:16:09
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She was like, you know what? I'm going to say something. And kudos to this kid. All right. You can have your high school drama. Yeah, I have your bullshit. Yeah. But to have the strength enough to go tell a worthy adult. Oh, so she like said something, said something. Yeah. And so she went to a guidance counselor. And told her pretty much everything.
01:16:39
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That was going on and she basically was like, hey. This is what we witnessed. This is what I know was going on. Pretty much none of the adults that surrounded these kids had any idea of all that this party even happened. OK. Well, they.
01:17:03
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I mean, it's like the first rule of high school parties. Yeah. Yeah. Like I didn't go to what happens in Vegas. Stays in Vegas. That's pretty much it. Hmm. Anyway. So the adults had absolutely no idea what happened. And once the guidance counselor heard. Kind of.
01:17:30
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that a synom says, if you will, click those synopses synopses. Is that similar to a synopsis? That's the word I was looking for. Thank you. Back to the synopses. We'll go with Cliff Notes. She contacted the authorities like a normal adult would know. And an investigation pretty much immediately open. OK, good. So. Audrey's friends.
01:17:59
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told the cops that they were at the party. Yeah. And these were the girls that were the girls that surrender. I was drunk and apparently some of the boys took some nude photos of her, passed out drunk, it's circular, circulated around the school. And basically told them we didn't know who did it. And like. This is what drives me crazy.
01:18:31
Speaker
Because I feel like they did know exactly who did it. Everybody knows who did it. Like we know that even if you don't know, you know, this girl just killed herself, bro. Like, guys. Like, I'm not asking you move on past it. Oh, my God. Yeah. All right. Oh, man, they didn't know. Nobody knows. Nobody ever does.
01:18:58
Speaker
So the cops began interviewing everyone that was at the party. Her parents did some digging of their own. I bet they did. Hell yeah. It's something to focus on. They broke into her laptop. And started reading some of the messages that were sent. OK. And so I told you earlier, like she was asking her girlfriends what happened that night. Yeah.
01:19:28
Speaker
asking guy friends, hey, what happened? Whatever. At one point, she was basically like banging these boys. Who took the photos, take them down, just take them down. Let me live my life. All right. Like just boom. Right. Yeah. They didn't, obviously. And so the boys, sorry, the cops began questioning the boys that were at the party.
01:19:57
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and typical of any other teenage deviant. Denied, denied, denied. OK. Yep. We didn't do we just put her to bed. That's it. We didn't do anything. I love nothing that happened. Yeah, exactly. Nothing. We didn't. It just it was mad. It's always like it's always magic. Right. So the three main suspects that were called up during the investigation by some of the girls. Yeah. OK.
01:20:27
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They got taken to the police department and interrogated. They continued to deny that they had anything to do with the pictures. You know, we did nothing, whatever, whatever. So one of the detectives that was in there at that point was like. Just kind of like off off the topic.
01:20:50
Speaker
You know, we're not talking about pictures anymore. Yeah. And you just sort of spewed out. So if I find any DNA on her body. Yeah. Who would it belong to? And this kid like froze. OK. We didn't think about that. Guys, we're way in the 2000s at this point. Like DNA is a thing. Yeah. OK. And the kid was like. Um, um.
01:21:19
Speaker
I'm taking this paper cup home with me. All three of us. Oh, man. So the police took their phones all there. Mm hmm. Ran their tests, did their recovery, did what they do. And the pictures were absolutely horrible, according to the police. I still couldn't find anything like what the pictures entailed. And I'm just going to throw that out there.
01:21:49
Speaker
Oh, it's it's a minor. They're not going to be. No, they're not going to say a damn thing. I'm sorry. Come on. I did my best. Your best. My best is the shiz anyway. So. They have the pictures. They have an admission that they all pretty much rape this girl. Yeah.
01:22:18
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She didn't even like, I don't think she even knew like speculation. Just because she's asking what happened. She knows something. She probably didn't even know she was raped. I'm I'm sure that like maybe subconsciously that was like in her head. OK, there's there's certain evidence that I'm sure. She knew I but I mean, again,
01:22:43
Speaker
But she doesn't know. Yeah, she is. She may maybe not have known how far by who, but she knew something happened. Yeah. So the three admitted that they drew on her. Right. And they sexually assaulted her. These three teenage boys were sentenced to between 30 and 45 days of juvenile days days.
01:23:12
Speaker
because they're juveniles, they're their identities are sealed and cannot be released. They literally went back to school. That was it. Happy, happy podcast. No, no, I know it's crap, OK, because we just sat here and we we discussed.
01:23:41
Speaker
thoroughly the mental Just destruction of a human being and they got to take a month And it's like they did nothing wrong So they were 18 no California sucks. Well, but here's it here's my thing. Okay, and I'm gonna say this with like a grain of salt
01:24:12
Speaker
Every teenager, man, woman, or boy or girl, whatever, they all have puberty. Your hormones go crazy. That's not a license to do what they did. No, no, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is we are living in a society now where they're handing out condoms to kids.
01:24:40
Speaker
And we'll tell them, hey, herpes is a thing. And pregnancy is a thing. Right. Right. How often do they actually teach that self control is a thing is a good thing. And I'm not I'm not defending these boys in any way, shape, fashion or form.
01:25:08
Speaker
There's nothing to defend. They didn't even get to step on the wrist. But I'm wondering to myself, how much self-control have they ever learned? None. We live in a world of instant gratification. We pay more for convenience. Two liter bottle of sodas, 99 cents, and it's warm. I can take that two liter bottle of soda home, put ice in a glass, and put a cup
01:25:37
Speaker
That's not convenient. So I'm going to pay 250 for this small bottle, but it's cold and it fits in my cup. Everything is everything is Burger King mentality. You get it your way. Yeah. And this whole case, it's like I told you when I was writing it, I told you to kick you in the kneecap. My heart for Audrey is so.
01:26:03
Speaker
and her parents and her friends and then just just disrespect like my my feeling for Audrey right now is it it wasn't trust. It wasn't anything if I shit. Sorry. Hold on. For this girl who made good grades and was just. A stand up human. Mm hmm.
Shame, Guilt, and Accountability
01:26:33
Speaker
The shame and guilt that she felt was overwhelming. And. It wasn't any one person's fault, like everything about the situation. No, three people's fault. But was it? No, you introduced a substance. That children don't need to be involved in, and they still don't get that.
01:27:00
Speaker
I get I get all that. But and no, I agree. 110 percent. 110 percent. I understand all that. Three boys. Yeah. Like if I was the parent of one of those kids, I'd have been like, listen, fucker, you're going. I'm sorry. I'm being real. This is wrong. Real. Yeah, but I'm going to. You're going out. You're going nowhere. You're going nowhere. You're not getting your license. I'm taking your car. I'm taking your everything.
01:27:29
Speaker
OK, because the government may have said you're rehabilitated. I'm sitting here telling you is your mom. Bro, you are doing nothing. Like you can think I'm wrong. But. There has to be.
01:27:50
Speaker
It's it's not a one way street. OK, you have two biologically different human beings. OK, you have a girl who just wants to go out, have a good time and have faith. Again, trust. Trust is earned, which is something that children don't understand. Now, child, meaning high school. Yeah, they're not adults.
01:28:15
Speaker
OK, and then you have accountability. You have trust and accountability on two different sides. OK, so you have to train a girl to say you can't go get crap faced at a party. And then you have to train a boy to say accountability was you can't let your friends do that. Right. Or not even just accountability as in don't let your friends do that, as in like you don't do that. Yeah.
01:28:44
Speaker
I'm angry. I can't. I can't handle it. I know you can't. And I know it was a crappy story, but. I just I can't stop thinking to myself, this little girl felt like she had no way out. Yeah, but. In accordance to what I what I talked about, like her mom and dad loved her, her friends loved her.
01:29:10
Speaker
I mean, that's that's the crappy part to me and I feel like that's the biggest Issue that I'm going to talk about like I don't know how old our listeners are but That doesn't matter how old our listeners are like You have somebody around you that loves you that you know loves you and you're going through something like that. Just say something
01:29:41
Speaker
I told you this case was not pleasant. Again, I thought it would be different type of unpleasant. I don't like this case. I don't necessarily care for you so much right now for bringing this case. And I don't care for any of this. Well, here's the deal, Faith.
01:30:01
Speaker
No. What's what's like the biggest, like Christian thing to say? If it's in the darkness, nobody knows. But if you bring it to light, right, these things know these things happen. I get that. But I don't like it. It hangers me and frustrates me. And then it's back. The whole story sucks. Like the whole story is awful. Yeah. But to just and then they all got sentenced to 30 to 45 years. You said day I'm done.
01:30:31
Speaker
I'm I'm I'm done with this. I'm done with California. Well, maybe maybe that's the difference between like parents. Like I feel like the day my kid got out, I'd have been like, you know what? That doesn't suit me.
01:30:44
Speaker
So I'm going to beat your face in for a while and and you're going to have a lock. You're going to live in the shed. It's going to be a while. You're going to live in the shed. It's going to have bars on the window, bars on the door. I'm going to put a little toilet in there just like prison. You can do distance learning just like prison until you're 18. That's your life, buddy. It's in house arrest. Right. So.
01:31:10
Speaker
I'm just going to ask like a simple question. No, I'm done with your questions. You're done. You don't get any more questions. No, no, no, no. So you're you. You have a kid, right? And he does something stupid at school. Mm hmm. We know he did something like pretty stupid. Right. And the teacher gets onto him. Mm hmm. And then she calls you. She tells you about it. She's like, hey, he did something stupid. This will happen.
01:31:40
Speaker
And you're like, OK, well, what do you do? And she's like, oh, well, he didn't get 10 minutes of his free time. So you as a parent need to decipher at that point. That's not enough punishment. No, no, no, no. This is the best thing I ever heard. And it was from Donna. It was a woman that I worked with at the daycare that I worked for. That's the punishment.
01:32:12
Speaker
You know who I think explained it best? I don't know if you watched that TikTok, but I sent you the TikTok of a little girl and she's explaining about how little Johnny punches me in the face. I have a black eye and I'm gonna tell my teacher and he's gonna get a rainy day and not get to go get something out of the treasure box. But tomorrow he gets to come back like nothing.
01:32:41
Speaker
So my discipline, my action is little Johnny punches me in the eye. I'm going to lay these hands on little Johnny and we're both going to have black eyes and we're both going to have rainy days, but little Johnny's going to learn to keep his hands. And I think I love that girl. Oh yeah. Number one, cute as a button, but her look because we both going to have rainy days and little Johnny's going to learn to keep his hands to himself. And you know what? I think so.
01:33:10
Speaker
Get that corporal capital punishment thing going. I hate you so much right now. I can't even recover to banter anymore. I just can't have them. Like your your kid did that. But you know what? Nine times out of 10 that he's not going to do that. They're thinking, well, it's just one mistake.
Parental Responsibility and Vigilance
01:33:32
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It shouldn't shouldn't ruin the rest of his life. Guess what? It ruined the rest of her life.
01:33:37
Speaker
And that's the same kind of parents. Can I tell you? Can I tell you? No, you're you don't. You know how people your guilt. No, I want. No. Shush. Shush. Shush. I'm listening. We just sat there and talked for like, you know, forever about guilt. This is longer than any podcast I've ever done. No, I talk to the guilt that people feel when people die. OK, so as a parent, do you feel any guilt at all about how you raise your kids?
01:34:04
Speaker
No, no. But you know, that's not that's not a fair statement because no, I was just going to write. I was going to be a crap bag. Honestly, there's look at Jeffrey Dahmer. No, I'm kidding. I hate you so much. I can't even I can't even try to tell these people to have a good night. Story was depressing. There was no justice. No, it sucks. It's up.
01:34:29
Speaker
Feel free. Literally like I told you that I warned you that my that my. You just said it was a bad topic. You didn't give me a fool. I thought someone was getting chopped up and eaten. I'm not going to lie. I said to you, you're not going to like this. It's going to be a crush. But I thought it was like unsolved. I haven't told you. Is it unsolved? And you're like, maybe. You know, no, no. This is this is a whole different level of crap. You never told me crap about yours.
01:34:58
Speaker
But no, no. I I loathe the air that keeps you alive right now. Me too. No, I'm kidding. Anyway, I am too. But I really hate this story. I'm not going to. Well, you know what, though, guys, like. Audrey's story is probably not.
01:35:21
Speaker
told as much as it should be. No, because nobody wants to hear. Well, there's a lot of things that are so important. I understand. Well, no, I feel like we close caption a lot of things like we don't we don't want people to know. Like realistically, it's 2023. We don't want to. We don't we don't want to talk about stuff like this. She'd be she'd be a young adult. She'd be like what? 10 years later, so she wouldn't even be 30 yet.
01:35:50
Speaker
Like she would just now be like, I have a child or two married, starting her life. Like, and it's just gone. And they're yet. Because it's like, you can't, like at that age, you can't look at your future. Like you can't think of where you're going to be. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like you can't think of where you're going to be.
01:36:15
Speaker
like two weeks from now, let alone 10 years from now. I know where I'm going to be a week from now. I'll find the worst story I can. I'll make you listen to it. I know where I'm going to be tomorrow. Back at work. Living the dream, right? But. I'm sorry, I know, I know. But. I'm just saying, like,
01:36:42
Speaker
You've lost the ability. You've lost that you you you're you're speaking has been revoked. Me and the three other me and the three other podcast listeners took a vote a minute ago. We all said Lisa's done. You've entered all three of us. Me, you, for and and our and our guy. Lisa doesn't get passionate about a lot of things. Lisa, Lisa's standing up, not near. Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I did. I got emotional. All right. I tell a lot of stories.
01:37:12
Speaker
OK, accurate or not. But like, there's just some things that hit me like in the gut. Right. And I'm not saying that none of these other stories like hit me hard. They do. But I like I said, hey, kids. And it's just senseless. The whole thing's senseless. And it pisses me off that it's always like the kids that go out and party every weekend and get drunk every weekend.
01:37:42
Speaker
do it again the next weekend. And it's, it's, it always happens to the kid that just decides I'm gonna, I'm gonna let loose this one time. I'm gonna try it out. Here's the deal. Nothing doesn't happen to everybody. I can honestly say I did that multiple times and always had enough trust in the people that surrounded me that nothing bad was going to happen. And, and all it takes
01:38:05
Speaker
Faith, it literally takes five seconds. No, but this is something that we've talked about from the day we we started this part. All it takes is one evil mind and then people succumb to it and move. OK, all it takes is one bad idea. And I hate you to hate this podcast. Well, it's not a lie.
01:38:34
Speaker
That is not a lie. I'm not. When you call me in the morning, I'm not answering. I'm just telling you right now, you can call. I will not answer to you. Boo. Well, guys, I know that was crap, but the deal is it.
01:38:55
Speaker
You can testify and be justified, but that was a horrible. It is. No, I'm not. I'm not justifying anything. I'm literally sitting here telling you these are the stories that need to be told because it's not just bringing awareness to whatever young listener is out there. It's bringing awareness to the parents that like. Anything can happen at any moment and being a parent is a full time effing job.
01:39:24
Speaker
And as as of what we went through this evening with the pause and my son and the fact that faith had to take over because. Oh, Mommy, Lisa. Needed a break. But. Being compassionate and empathetic and. Like cognitive of what's going on, isn't a bad thing.
01:39:55
Speaker
And this story shows you all the right things. And it's still sometimes not enough that her mom gave her a 10 minute break. Oh, I know. Like, it's not like she was like, all right, see you tomorrow. No, no, I'm not saying anybody's to blame. No, I know you're not. That's not what I'm trying to say. I'm saying that. Sometimes, especially in 2023. It's a it's a good thing to stop and take a breath.
01:40:26
Speaker
like we as parents especially we've got to make the bills. We've got to do this. We've got to do that. It's only getting worse. Just focus. I hate you so much right now. There's no recovery. There's no. I like to leave our listeners on a happy note and ramble till they feel better. That's not happening tonight, guys. We're all going to go cry in our pillows and curse Lisa's name.
01:40:59
Speaker
I'm sorry. It's so bad. I know it's a bad story. Like bad, not not like a bad story in the sense that I care, but senseless and depressing. Yeah. Like really? And I'm going to say it, you really have nothing better to do, right? Get a grip, get a friggin grip again.
Encouragement and Available Resources
01:41:29
Speaker
If you're struggling, please reach out to someone. Someone you know, someone you don't know, there's lots of help line. Again, they'll be posted. Reach out to us. We'll talk to you. You know what? If you're a young guy, just do whatever your other young guy does. I'm going to have to edit the statement out. I can feel it. I'm just going to stop my statement. That's a good idea. That's a good call. All right. Well.
01:41:55
Speaker
I'm late. At least school got canceled tomorrow. I said, like, I still got to work. You and me have to wake up early, but the kids don't. That's a plus. We can sleep like 10 minutes later. And I'm not going to call. So you don't have to call me in the morning. I probably will. I'm not answering. I'm telling you right now I will not answer. And I'm going to call anybody else. Whatever. But. All right, guys, well,
01:42:22
Speaker
I don't even know how to end this. I'm going to be honest with you. I will tell you how to handle this. All right, guys, if you're young and you need help and you don't want to talk to your parents, you don't want to talk to a guidance counselor or whatever, you feel like there is absolutely nobody around you. We can figure it out. I just felt my lifesaver gummies. I didn't realize I had them.
01:42:49
Speaker
I was being super serious. I was too. And you're being a tool. I'm sad now, sadder. Anyway, you all have a good night. I'm so mad at you still. We'll we'll edit the hell out of this whole podcast, because Lacey said the F up, not when Lisa was being serious about getting help and Faith was talking about lifesaver gummies. I'm really upset.
01:43:17
Speaker
I know I'm trying to emotionally rebound and I'm not able. There's. Yeah, I know. Anyway, you guys have a fantastic night. They're not going to. You've ruined that chance. All right, fine. You ready? You're for a joke. Yes. It better be good. It's not. I don't even have a joke. Just that I ever tell you guys what my kids told them last week. Oh, she is.
01:43:47
Speaker
All right, guys, well, I'm sorry. I'm the worst episode was heavy, but it was a complicated night. I'm just going to go ahead and throw that out. We're not going to edit this part out. I'm just going to tell you. I'm going to edit this part out being being a mommy and an auntie. Not easy. I hope I hope you have a good rest of your day and I will hit Lisa for all of us.
01:44:19
Speaker
No. All right. OK. Bye, guys. I like it. Dude, I'm so mad at you.