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Rose Plate Special: Jilly Box, Spring 2026

Pop Culture Diner
Pop Culture Diner

47 plays · Mar 6, 2026

We're back! Did you miss us!  Another season of The Bachelorette is looming on the horizon (and it's MORMON and on SUNDAYS), but until that arrives, we have something else to share with you - our latest Jilly Box!  Join us on YouTube to see the box in all its glory, or just listen to us and imagine what the items are. We'll be back soon with a talk about Rachel Lindsay's book, Miss Me With That, and the new season of The Bachelorette later this month. 

Transcript

Sammi: Hello, I'm Sammy, and you're listening to or watching Roseplate Special.

Steve: Oh, hello. and I'm Steve.

Sammi: Oh my God, we're here for real.

Steve: And hope you've been. i don't even know.

Sammi: Well, you know, you missed out on an episode because my, I think my GPU was being a little dramatic.

Steve: ah

Sammi: And it, well, and my good one wasn't being chosen for certain tasks. So then my like little rinky dink one would take over and then crash everything.

Steve: who

Sammi: And then my screen would go white and then would go black and I could hear you and I couldn't do anything about it. So we had Scrooge based episode that I thought was really good.

Steve: Mm-hmm.

Sammi: And that is lost to time forever. Sorry, there was no way to salvage it.

Steve: Is that...

Sammi: We really tried.

Steve: that's not Yeah.

Sammi: And like there was nothing. maybe one clip.

Steve: hu

Sammi: There may be one clip living out there. I don't remember.

Steve: Well, i let me tell you what I did. I discovered the field of view slider on my camera, which I didn't know existed until I updated the software. So, yeah.

Sammi: That's pretty exciting.

Steve: so now i'm more zoomed in than usual, and you can only see half of my Danny DeVito...

Sammi: Should I be more zoomed in just to match you? Hmm.

Steve: I don't know. Like, what do kids like these days? What's what's the aesthetic?

Sammi: Enhance. Is that better?

Steve: I don't know. You just look like you to me.

Sammi: Okay.

Steve: i don't.

Sammi: I just look the same?

Steve: Yeah. Well, but just closer.

Sammi: Oh.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: Oh.

Steve: It's basically.

Sammi: You look the same, but closer. That's like a Stephen Wright joke. Okay.

Steve: faithfully

Sammi: Anyway, um yeah, I know it's been like forever. um so much has happened and a lot of it bad, but some some good. Any exciting good news to share with our listeners and viewers?

Steve: Oh, no. I think everything's bad. i had to think about it. I'm like, what's so good?

Sammi: um Actually, no.

Steve: yeah I got a two and a half percent raise at work. So that world, that's that's at least like 20 bucks a paycheck, I think.

Sammi: wow congrats.

Steve: Maybe.

Sammi: That's so exciting.

Steve: Think about that one. But yeah.

Sammi: I still feel like I hear myself played back. And so if you all hear feedback, I'm sorry, but at least we fixed the graphics problem.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: I'll just try to not be so loud. um I guess I could turn mic down just a titch. What's fun and exciting? I don't know. I was telling you about trail maintenance. That was honestly one of the highlights of my year so far was doing trail maintenance.

Steve: Yeah. this more Everything Sammy does is always the most Sammy ass thing I've ever heard in my entire life. i was like, yeah, how you been? She's like, yeah, well, I was actually back in Milwaukee, but i didn't call you because I was doing trail maintenance.

Steve: She just says trail maintenance now. Yeah.

Sammi: That's so funny that you say that because like I was sitting next to somebody like we did a show together in like August and we kind of became like Internet friendly, you know, and now we like saw each other IRL again after like months of, you know, not having seen each other.

Steve: Awesome.

Sammi: And we were sitting at this show like on so like it was just a stage reading. So we were just like sitting there before the show started and we're just talking and whatever. And yeah, they were like asking me questions.

Sammi: And it turns out that like they are from near where I live now. And we just missed each other. I was like, when did you move to Milwaukee? And they were like, 2021.

Sammi: When did you move? I was like, 2021. So we were like, and I mentioned, but they have a big idea because we're like friends on Facebook.

Steve: You're hearing

Sammi: I know whatever boomer, whatever. Um, and, and we're like in a discord group together and stuff. So like, they know some of the things that I do, uh, and, and are aware of them.

Sammi: But then I, yeah, I mentioned trail maintenance, trail maintenance. And they're like, okay, they said the same thing. So you just do trail maintenance now too. And I said, listen, if I told you everything that I do, you would think I'm lying.

Sammi: So I'm not going to tell you what I do.

Steve: crazy person fine it's good we love it the

Sammi: It's just like, yeah, it's like once you get to know me, you realize that it's all true and it's all believable.

Steve: oh true yeah now i any anytime i feel overwhelmed in life or that i have too much going on i go sammy's got more

Sammi: But until then, it's like, yeah, i just sound like I'm bragging or making it up or whatever the hell.

Steve: which makes me feel better

Sammi: It's like the equivalent of there are starving children somewhere. Well, Sammy's got more.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: Yeah.

Steve: This is what's going to happen. Like we're to do another episode in two weeks. And she's like, yeah. So I was ah pursuing my certificate to become a cheesemonger. And

Sammi: he

Steve: yeah, i don't know.

Sammi: It's very true. It's very true. But yes, I did do trail maintenance and it was really fun. And if you ever have an opportunity to do that in the winter and you like fire, I highly recommend it because you just spend your time burning giant piles of sticks down and you get to use like a propane torch and it's very fun.

Steve: Oh, well, that actually sounds cool. Maybe I'll do training.

Sammi: Yeah. It was badass. Like they were like and they I was like, I'm new to this. And they're like, well, you're going to learn something fun today. Do you want to try to use a torch? And I'm like, I guess so. And they're like and they have like one of those things that you you had when you were like in school to like light Bunsen burners, you know, and and you just do one of those and go go ah and and then you got like this big propane tank and you know, like a hose basically.

Sammi: And you're just lighting giant piles of sticks on fire.

Steve: Mm-hmm. Then you don't start up forest fire. Is that the Okay.

Sammi: Well, yeah, there was there was snow. So like that you know prevented the spread. But the goal in our trail maintenance was to get rid of invasive species and in increase prairie and savanna habitats.

Steve: Nice.

Sammi: Yeah, very cool. It was very fun. Yeah, I can't complain. And so that's that's what I did. So that was a highlight. I've also been doubling and tripling down on on art, except I have to write a better description on my website.

Sammi: I've been too busy with other things. But I did apply to

Steve: see I don't believe you.

Sammi: I did apply to my first residency and to an art show, the first art show of the year.

Steve: there you go.

Sammi: We'll see what happens.

Steve: Good.

Sammi: So I've been I've been using I've been very consumed with helping my neighbors. We'll just put it that way. And when I need a mental break, I either watch reality TV, go see a movie um or paint. And that's what I do.

Sammi: To cope. um By the way, did you see The Plague? Because i need to talk to like a million people about The Plague. It's like one of my favorite movies of the year.

Steve: No.

Sammi: and I feel like nobody watched it.

Steve: I didn't. Nobody saw that.

Sammi: Nobody saw it. It was in January. um It's a movie. if you I don't know where it's playing at all after that. But if you get a chance, I mean, it's like one of those things that would stream on movie, but I don't know if it is on movie.

Sammi: But if you get a chance, it's called The Plague.

Steve: Mm-hmm.

Sammi: It's a movie about like this kid who is a transfer student and he goes to like a water polo um like summer camp. uh, before school starts.

Sammi: And it's all about like how middle school is the worst. And there's all these like invisible rules. And there's always going to be someone who's like, Oh, don't touch them. Cause they have the plague.

Sammi: Right. Um, and it's, it's kind of horror-y, but it's more like psychological dread. It's very, very good.

Steve: doing

Sammi: Um,

Steve: I had never even heard of it until you just talked about it just now.

Sammi: I absolutely love it. And I just, I mean, i i know we don't have the exact same taste. Like you didn't like death becomes her, which we won't talk about right now.

Steve: It's fine.

Sammi: Uh, whatever.

Steve: But I also realized that that's that's a cardinal sin. And know don't tell any of my gay friends or theater friends that I don't like.

Sammi: It's also probably, I was going to say, it's like, it's more for me than for you. You know what I mean?

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: It's for me. It is a movie that is a hundred percent for me.

Steve: Mm-hmm.

Sammi: Um, when I watch it, I go, that's me. Um, But no, I know we have really similar tastes. so I figured I would say, please, like figure out a way to see the plague. It is so good. I have been thinking about it since I saw it.

Sammi: um I feel like though this year has started off very strong, like Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie. Have you watched that?

Steve: I've not watched that one yet, but I need, I need like the 10th person who has told me that like someone came up to me and at work who I don't ever talk to.

Sammi: It's so good. So good.

Sammi: It's so good.

Steve: And they're like, Steve, I went to the movies and I saw something that reminded me of you. And I'm like, what was that? yeah

Sammi: Nirvana the band the show the movie would definitely be that

Steve: yeah It wasn't Jacob Elordi at Wuthering Heights. It was the one of the band, the show, the movie. Yeah. That's.

Sammi: yeah it was so good it was so good um i can't say enough good things about it I'm gonna go see um good luck have fun don't die tomorrow um I've heard decent things about it I've heard like mixed reviews but I am excited and I'm gonna go see pillion on Friday I think no I'm not gonna go see that

Steve: Okay.

Steve: All right. Have you seen Wuthering Heights yet?

Steve: Probably not. Probably not worth it.

Sammi: No, that movie is not for me.

Steve: <unk>t I don't know who it's for. i

Sammi: It's it's it's like way too white woman for me.

Steve: People who don't like Wuthering Heights.

Sammi: I can't like I'm I'm white, but I'm not that white. You know what mean? No, thanks.

Steve: That's true. That's true.

Sammi: me

Steve: I don't know. i have to see it because i have a I don't know. I get obsessed with disliking certain things that intrigue me. And the films of one emerald fennel is, is my thing. Like,

Steve: I dislike them, but she's always finding kind of new wrinkles and ways to upset me with why her movies are bad. So, yeah, it's good. And there's there's just something fascinating to me about someone who is, like, so obsessed with creating films about class and race and gender, but also fundamentally misunderstands those three things.

Steve: So that's, it's very thrilling.

Sammi: yeah I mean i didn't mind her first two movies but I also totally get the hate like I also totally get the hate but this was like a bridge too far was like oh now you lost me now you lost me yeah

Steve: Yeah, it's really cool.

Steve: i yeah I think she just wants to direct music videos, which is what she should do. Just direct music videos.

Sammi: someone said she should be a cinematographer and I totally agree now it's like um Daniels

Steve: I think she'd do it

Sammi: you know, they started with music videos. And I mean, while they can certainly go back there, i hope they mostly don't.

Steve: too.

Sammi: I hope they mostly stick to movies because holy shit, my favorites.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: um But yeah, so they should swap places, I think is what I'm saying.

Steve: But I mean, if Emerald Fennel is not going to make Heathcliff white, who is?

Sammi: Okay.

Steve: Somebody has to.

Sammi: at I mean it's just like it's so egregious it's like so you didn't even read some of the book like that's weird that's weird behavior any ah any movies you recommend so far this year that you're really excited about

Steve: Um, nothing new so far that I've seen. That's like super, super exciting. I, I've been doing like Oscar catch up stuff.

Sammi: oh sure

Steve: I've got, I've got all the standard, uh, dude opinions, which is, ah one battle and another after another. Awesome. Marty Supreme. Awesome. Uh, so yeah.

Sammi: Those are very standard dude opinions.

Steve: stay duty to If, if I had legs, i do that one's pretty good.

Sammi: I have not watched either of those movies so far on principle.

Steve: Pretty good.

Sammi: Which one's pretty good?

Steve: If I had legs, I'd kick you.

Sammi: I'm really excited to watch that. I haven't seen it yet and I've heard really good things and I'm i am very much planning on watching that.

Steve: Yeah. I don't have children. I'm, you know, as shock of the century. I'm not a mother. But if I were one, I feel like that's what my life would be. So

Sammi: I haven't watched Sentimental Value either. um

Steve: I haven't seen that. I had the opportunity to on a flight to Phoenix, Arizona, and I thought maybe this isn't the correct venue to to watch this show.

Sammi: Yeah. Yeah, maybe not.

Steve: you know

Sammi: I just, ah you know, I'm like, I just want sinners to win everything. So that's just me. And that's just my that's just my feeling.

Steve: Got the most chances. so emer What are you saying?

Sammi: i And I'm like, I'll watch Marty Supreme at some point and one battle after another at some point. But I'm just kind of like, yeah, I don't know. I'm just kind of at my white dude quota. Yeah.

Sammi: for the for the moment

Steve: Timothee Chalamet playing ping pong is a white guy thing? what are you talking about? Come on.

Sammi: I just can't I just can't with his whole ego tour thing you know I'm sure he's good and I did just watch um Bones and All I had never seen Bones and All and I just watched it and I really liked it um but that was I was like that's enough Tibby

Steve: I'm trying to bring up my letterbox so I can see what I've seen lately that's actually new and good. And it's

Sammi: The plague, everyone. Go see the plague.

Steve: It's difficult. Everything is old. ah Shoot. I watched ah the Jerky Boys movie. I watched Big Money Hustlers, which is the movie that I've seen.

Sammi: You watch the weirdest amalgamation of movies.

Steve: What else? Oh, Disorderly's. That's got the Fat Boys in it. You remember the Fat Boys? No?

Sammi: No.

Steve: 1988? They were like an attempt at making commercialized rap music for children, and it was just like three fat guys from Queens. It's pretty cool.

Sammi: the hell

Steve: ah ah No, i it the only thing that I've seen recently, like not a new release that I thought was really good, is there's a movie called What Happened Was, and it stars Tom Noonan, who just died a couple weeks ago.

Steve: It came out in 1994, it's brilliant. it's like It's sort of like My Dinner with Andre, if it was the most awkward first date ever.

Steve: And also Tom Noonan is the most naturally menacing actor in the history of actors. So the entire time you're waiting for someone to murder someone else, but it's unclear whether or not that's going to actually happen.

Steve: So highly recommend check it out.

Sammi: Oh, interesting.

Steve: I don't know if it's streaming anywhere, but I think radiance put out a Blu-ray of it recently. So you can go buy some physical media kids.

Sammi: What happened was...

Steve: Come on.

Sammi: Yeah, own physical media. um That's interesting. Okay, it looks like Philo and Plex and couple other places maybe have it.

Sammi: So go check it out.

Steve: There you go

Sammi: um What else? I don't know. Well, we've we've got mostly a Jillybox friends. That's the deal.

Steve: you go.

Sammi: But I just feel like...

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: We got to catch up.

Steve: We're business people. We're just here to open packages for you.

Sammi: Yeah, catch up on some movies.

Steve: Come on.

Sammi: um I did watch Is This Thing On? And I thought that was honestly...

Steve: Oh.

Sammi: Okay, in terms of white guy quotas. um Here's... um it's a minor spoiler, but I don't really think you can spoil a movie like that, but it's, ah it's about divorce, but it's not like, um, the man is a disaster.

Sammi: i feel like usually it's like man's going through a divorce does stand up is actually a disaster for once. He's not a disaster and it makes the movie so much more enjoyable.

Sammi: so very much appreciated that i also really liked no other choice holy crap that movie was so good

Steve: isn't like men going through a divorce and doing stand-up that's just like every man currently living in Brooklyn right is that right

Sammi: right exactly but this guy came in from jersey or whatever so or connecticut i can't remember think jersey uh so it was like a better somehow um Like, he yeah, it's like they all had full lives and nobody was really the bad guy.

Steve: it's different that's why you gotta say yeah

Sammi: It was good, you know. um The Testament of Ann Lee made me go down a real shaker rabbit hole.

Steve: Oh.

Sammi: Holy crap. I was like, I need to know everything about the shakers.

Steve: they fun Quakers, they get all the attention because they have oatmeal, but shakers are where it's at.

Sammi: What? What?

Sammi: Shakers, I mean, I personally feel like I i personally align more with Quakers than Shakers ah based on their ah practices, but I'm like,

Steve: Yeah.

Steve: Hey there, guys, do you prefer quaking or shaking?

Sammi: But I'm like, this is so interesting that there is this like um very embodied practice that's also celibate confusing.

Sammi: I like it. It's like reverse footloose or something. I'm not really sure.

Steve: Reverse but loose.

Sammi: There's something about the shakers. Um, so I, I recommend it. It was such an odd one and I really enjoyed it. I'm going through my letterbox now too. Oh my God.

Sammi: Send help. Send help. Send help. Send help. Everyone needs to go watch. Send help.

Steve: and an actual cracker help or is that a movie oh yeah nope yep

Sammi: no Sam Raimi. Sam Raimi. Send help. So good. Especially listen, friends. Bruce Campbell is not doing well. I just saw a post. He's got cancer.

Sammi: That fucking sucks. He is very briefly cameoed in Send Help in a photo. That's it. that's But you get a little Bruce Campbell.

Steve: mm-hmm

Sammi: But holy shit. Holy shit. It's a two it's it's mostly a two-person movie. And Dylan O'Brien and Rachel McAdams are fantastic. They're fantastic. They are so good.

Sammi: So, so good. And it's the second movie that prominently features Blondie and Rachel McAdams.

Steve: Wow.

Sammi: So... that, that was my review. My review was if I had it it was like an, if I had a nickel for every time Ripper to shreds was, you know, prominently featured in a movie starring Rachel McAdams, I'd have two nickels, um, which is, you know, which is not a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

Sammi: That whole meme.

Steve: is good.

Sammi: Um, Yeah, fantastic. I gave it four and a half stars. One of the most fun things I've i've seen in a long time. it really, between that and The Roses, those were two very fun movies that just made me feel like I completely escaped.

Steve: Oh.

Sammi: And Eternity was an escape in another way. And that I cried like a baby. i was like, oh my God. Love is so nice. um So anyway, those are all my recommendations. I've been watching a lot of movies to cope, as you can tell.

Sammi: But nothing... i You gotta to give me some like yeah some weird ones.

Steve: I'll give you some weird

Sammi: Send me some weird ones. Yeah.

Steve: I've been watching a lot of garbage lately, but i'll ah I'll send you, as I wade through the garbage and I find little treasures, I'll send you the treasure.

Sammi: If it's like so bad it's good garbage, I may be down too.

Steve: Oh, I got some of those for you. Don't worry.

Sammi: I had never seen Eyes Wide Shut either. I'm admitting that now. I just watched it for the first time during my trail maintenance weekend.

Steve: Oh. That's a Steve classic. I love that movie.

Sammi: I think one of my...

Steve: It's my favorite Christmas movie.

Sammi: Yeah, I think one of my paintings, my next painting is, well, maybe not next. It'll be in the queue. It's going to be Nicole Kidman smoking at the kitchen table with the, with the um oh my God, my brain is blanking, with the Snackwells box by her.

Sammi: Holy shit. I was like, whoa, that's a painting.

Steve: you

Sammi: um So I screenshotted it.

Steve: Yep.

Sammi: But let's get to the chili.

Steve: Yeah. I know it's ah currently. but What do you all you got the jelly box. was like, what are you what are you pulling up here?

Sammi: Yeah, it's currently in the in the ether, in the air, in the in in being talked about.

Steve: Mm hmm.

Sammi: oop And people are like, what's the missing 20 minutes?

Steve: Well, listen, yeah when you go home for Christmas this year, I know it's a ways out, but just consider light a nice fire and you know hang those stockings up, decorate the tree, and then sit down with dear old mom and dad and grandma and watch Eyes Wide Shut.

Sammi: i Listen, the

Sammi: I suppose fun for the whole family.

Steve: Fun for the whole family.

Sammi: i would love to see a cut of of that, you know, um like, you know, like it's a fun holiday movie. That would be very funny.

Steve: im sure Someone's done it. Someone had to. Wow.

Sammi: Someone must have done it.

Steve: and ah

Sammi: All right, but let's let's get to Jilly. Also, i've been in even though we haven't watched The Bachelor or Bachelorette in a long time, I've been in Bachelorette mode because I've been listening to Rachel's book, Miss Me With That, and I'm halfway through, and I haven't even gotten to The Bachelor yet. That's how much she covers. she covers her whole She covers like all of her relationships, um and I forgot she went to Marquette.

Sammi: like I knew at the time, but I forgot.

Steve: She dated Milwaukee guys. Okay. Yeah.

Sammi: She dated Milwaukee guys. um Brief, like, it was mostly, like, one guy in Milwaukee, it sounds like.

Steve: all

Sammi: But it's very interesting.

Steve: okay

Sammi: She's very open and admits, like, we'll talk about it in detail in a future episode. But she talks about, like, cheating even. and I was like, wow, good on you, I guess, to admit that.

Sammi: um I got an umbrella, and it's really cute. i not I'm not going to fully open it because that's bad luck, right? But it's got a little like pink part on the top.

Steve: yeah

Sammi: It looks like it's supposed to be like a cherry blossom or something like that. Very cute.

Steve: Oh, very fancy.

Sammi: And it's small, but it's got that nice handle that I love.

Steve: Is Jilly encouraging us to go watch the cherry blossoms bloom in Washington, D.C.?

Sammi: That's what it feels like. Well, it's it it's spring. Spring has, as we say in our house, spring has sprunge.

Sammi: Because we say things right in this house. This is really cute. But yeah, so I've been in like bachelorette mode. I've been like thinking about The Bachelor. And you said that you took a look at Taylor Frankie Paul's list of men and you don't like what you're saying.

Steve: Hmm.

Sammi: seeing he said, ooh.

Steve: I did. ah My takeaway from it is I'm glad we're still finding new ways to call people unemployed in.

Sammi: What are some of the titles? Give them to me.

Steve: Oh, there' there's some really good ones.

Sammi: I want to hear.

Steve: I'm i'm scrolling through now. One of my favorites is a gentleman from, believe, Newport Beach, California.

Sammi: Newport Beach.

Steve: This is Brad. And yeah, Brad's from Newport Beach, and he calls himself a cowboy slash entrepreneur. I got to tell you, if you live in Newport Beach, you're not a cowboy.

Steve: You're just a rich white guy. that's That's about all there is to it. So he's got rich parents and no job. It says he's lassoing for love. If Taylor is searching for a handsome California cowboy, she won't have to look any further than Brad.

Steve: His best friend is his horse, Gus, whom he partners with on all his cowboy jobs. When he's not on the ranch, Brad enjoys swing dancing, hanging at the beach, and listening to Adele.

Steve: This fearless romantic is ready to start a family and prides himself on being a generous, loving partner. We can't wait to see if he can giddy up his way into our Bachelorette's heart. ah Says he's working towards getting his private pilot's license. He says he would have been an incredible gladiator. Odd choice. Brad prefers a white rose to a red one.

Steve: And then it says it's less basic. I don't know, Brad.

Sammi: Why not pick like orange or something like that?

Steve: Because I don't know. If you saw him, you'd know. Yeah.

Sammi: Well, I'm looking at him and he looks goofy as hell.

Steve: Not bad. yeah so

Sammi: None of these men are cute. Wait, what's going on? Are any of them cute?

Steve: not

Sammi: Wait, hold on. Okay, wait.

Steve: Is anyone cute for the love of God?

Sammi: Okay, page two. I'm like, okay, page two. Save me page two.

Steve: Yeah. There's another guy here who's just listed.

Sammi: Okay, well, a couple of them don't look terrible.

Steve: There's a guy here just listed as business owner, which could be literally anything. um We were talking about love is blind earlier. I like that guy's like, I'm a day trader. It's like, what does he do?

Steve: He's just like watching CNN and looking at stocks, but not doing anything.

Sammi: Oh my God.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: He gave me the ick from day one.

Steve: ah

Sammi: Ugh.

Steve: Another winner, a name with a sterling track record on The Bachelor. It's Clayton, age 36. He's from Nashville, Tennessee, and he's a singer and songwriter.

Sammi: And it's singer-songwriter. I saw that. I was like, singer-songwriter, look out.

Steve: There's no way he's unemployed or a total skis bag. It couldn't be possible.

Sammi: God, most of these guys look sucky.

Steve: ah Another unemployed guy, potentially. This is Conrad 32. He's a startup founder. Is he unemployed? I don't know. He does have an MBA from Stanford, so he's not dumb.

Steve: So we'll see. We'll have to see if he's unemployed or an actual business owner. There's a guy here from San Diego, California, Doug. He's 28. He's an ocean lifeguard. Now, you might be saying to yourself, he's got to be borderline unemployed. San Diego is so expensive. He's a lifeguard. Isn't that what I did in high school? Why, yes, it is. But in California, you can make like 100K being a lifeguard. So no big deal.

Sammi: Wow. Okay.

Steve: this this is This is wonderful. This is my favorite version of Unemployed. Are you ready?

Sammi: hu

Steve: Johnny, spelled J-O-H-N-N-I-E, the worst kind of Johnny. All right?

Sammi: Oh, I was avoiding him. His hair is not 90s enough and two ninety s at the same time.

Steve: I think.

Steve: Yeah, it's ah not not flattering. And he is a quote, former professional baseball player. So he's unemployed. that's it' i guess and I don't know how professional Johnny was.

Sammi: Yeah.

Steve: yeah like He could potentially have millions and and he lives a modest life and is just sitting on it. But hard to say. Hard to say.

Sammi: Yeah. There's like a couple that could go either way. Like, you know, entrepreneur. We've got Rod as an entrepreneur. Like could could be a good thing.

Steve: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Sammi: Could be a bad thing. Christopher, business owner, could be a good thing. Could be a bad thing. Um, we've got, um, Let's see. oh yeah. And Lou is also an insurance tech founder.

Sammi: um Could be a good thing. Could be a bad thing. ah Shane is one of the only ah attractive people, but he's a private wealth planner.

Sammi: Red flag, possibly. Don't know. Hard to say. um That could be good or bad.

Steve: Oh, how about this guy?

Sammi: But he is a massive Uno enthusiast. That's a rat a green flag to me.

Steve: Green flag.

Sammi: Green flag. Massive Uno enthusiast? Yes. Yes.

Steve: How about Michael B., 36 years old? He's a chiropractic healer.

Sammi: Yeah, I just avoided him.

Steve: This

Sammi: i just was like, I'm not even going look at that man.

Steve: guy is the kind of person who I could not spend five minutes in a room with without like running through the wall like a cartoon character.

Sammi: There's only like a few that i'm I'm like, I know that you have a real job.

Steve: He's like

Sammi: Like Kevin, he's a physical therapist. I'm like, that is a real job that requires, ah you know, a doctorate at this point, I believe. um So I know that it's real.

Sammi: Casey's a mechanical engineer. That's a real job. That is a real job.

Steve: hu

Sammi: Aaron is a product manager. i don't know of what, but that's obvious.

Steve: hundred

Sammi: No one would lie about that. That's a real job, you know?

Steve: How about Rob the entrepreneur?

Sammi: That's what I just said. I said, he's an entrepreneur. It can go one way or the other.

Steve: There's a couple of guys that are really leaning in on that. Yeah, yeah. This is not.

Sammi: Yeah, it's like, it's hard to say. There's, I mean, yeah, like Marcus, he's a creative director. That's probably like legit and fine. You know, Matt's a real estate broker. i mean, who knows how good his, his, you know, like flow is or whatever, but like, that's like a real job, you know, but yeah, there's a few of these that I'm like, yeah,

Steve: yeah

Sammi: ah

Steve: yeah start up or entrepreneur next to their name ah ah

Sammi: Yeah, it's like, I'm a business owner, okay?

Steve: unemploy until proven otherwise

Sammi: And look at me.

Steve: go

Sammi: i don't know.

Steve: At least no one's gone on The Bachelor yet with the with the job title Podcaster. That would be the heat death of the universe.

Sammi: Well, that would be so funny, actually. I would love that. Well, there was somebody who was like like a content creator, influencer, or whatever.

Steve: Oh, there's a lot of those, yeah.

Sammi: like There have been a couple of those, but yeah. Anyway. Yeah. It's looking a little, a little bleak. I, you know, Casey can't sleep without socks.

Steve: Mm-hmm.

Sammi: um I was like, maybe I'll root for you, Casey.

Steve: Gross.

Sammi: And then I saw that and then I went, nevermind.

Steve: No, we're going to root for nothing. um Taylor punches a man out.

Sammi: Yeah. There's like,

Steve: He's visibly pregnant. That would be great.

Sammi: None of them are that interesting to me. I hate to say it. They're all kind of giving different versions of red flags at this point.

Steve: Yeah, there's a guy who creative director, and as someone who's worked for and with a lot of creative directors, I wouldn't want to marry one, personally.

Sammi: Maybe one of them will be okay.

Sammi: Well, I mean, you know, listen, they can be okay.

Steve: Wow.

Sammi: He's in like a random city in New York. It's probably fine.

Steve: Yeah, he's probably okay.

Sammi: He's a former basketball star turned creative director.

Steve: Okay, okay.

Sammi: he wants Okay, his fun facts are funny. Well, one of them is, ah Marcus once got attacked by a bird while on a run.

Steve: That's fun.

Sammi: That is a fun, fun fact. Okay. I like that. um He loves a good rooftop vibe. Sure. Who doesn't? um And his favorite food is pancakes.

Sammi: That's solid.

Steve: Okay.

Sammi: Pancakes are delicious. um That's not too bad. But yeah, some of these are are bleak. I don't know.

Steve: i bleak as a

Sammi: A lot of them look, I don't know. Well, I guess some of them they're all a little bit older too. Well, most of them are older.

Steve: hu

Sammi: So I guess I can't say anything because I, I too am older. I mean, they're younger than me, but yeah, let's look at this Clayton guy.

Steve: yeah yeah

Sammi: I want to see his fun facts because this guy's just on to promote his music. um

Steve: oh this is jed 2.0

Sammi: He loves, okay, this is, this is ridiculous. Okay. Well, I'm going to read this exactly the way it's written. And then we're going to open another Jilly thing because I can't deal with this.

Sammi: Clayton loves flower bouquets. He loves flower bouquets.

Steve: Not flowers, but specifically.

Sammi: As opposed to jerky bouquets. Like, like, I don't think anyone would immediately assume like a novelty bouquet is your favorite.

Steve: Edible Arrangement?

Sammi: Why do you have to say flower bouquets? What?

Steve: I don't know.

Sammi: Anyway.

Steve: Edible Arrangement? That little melon flower. that's what

Sammi: Listen, I love an edible arrangement, but then it would just say Clayton loves edible arrangements.

Steve: That's my favorite.

Sammi: um Clayton enjoys a good trail ride on horseback. He's a horse girl.

Steve: but There's like multiple horse girls on this season.

Sammi: lot of horse girls. Well, Taylor will probably like that. Once Clayton visits Antarctica, he'll have been to every continent. Oh, my God. It's like that guy in love is blind who I hate. What is his name? I like literally blocked it out my mind because I hate him so bad.

Steve: I don't know. There's like... it Oh, gosh.

Sammi: It's the one who's the day trader. What is his name?

Steve: What is this?

Sammi: I hate him so much I forget his name as soon as I stop watching the show. I'm going to open something while you give me his name. Because I really do hate him. I mean, and I was i felt vindicated.

Steve: Alex?

Sammi: What did you say?

Steve: Alex?

Sammi: Alex, yeah. um I felt vindicated to like as I kept watching the show because he kept getting worse and worse. Like, um you know, his, you know, impending father in law was like grilling him at at like a dinner or whatever. And I mean, I was like, damn, he's really handing it to him. And he was like, did you vote for Trump? And he goes, well, I didn't vote.

Sammi: And and he's like, but i I would have if I could have or whatever. Like he said, he couldn't. I don't remember why.

Steve: It's kind of felony.

Sammi: No, it was like he wasn't in the country or something. I don't know, whatever. Some bullshit. um And and yeah, he's like a day trader. And then he was like he was like sitting there listening to Jerome Powell talk like about the Fed rate like that was going to impact day trading in a material, immediate way.

Steve: I think that like day traders are actually worse than people with like legitimate gambling addictions because, I don't know, like everyone I know that has had like a modest gambling problem at some point, even if they're not actively fixing it, they're like, this is a problem.

Sammi: Annoying.

Steve: Yeah, right. It's one of those things where there's sides and they're like, you know, and, but the thing is with day trading is it's the same as like sitting at a poker table all day or like losing your money in slot machines or playing roulette or like whatever.

Steve: But you like try and justify it and legitimize it because like trading stocks and making money from stocks is like a real thing that people in business suits do. Ergo, you must be doing legitimate jobs. Like no day day trading is honestly, if you just played Texas Hold'em, you would have better odds and I would respect you more.

Steve: So. Okay.

Sammi: Well, yeah, I mean, there's actual math involved. And I mean, they say like less than 1% of day traders can be successful. It's basically an MLM. And yeah, it's like, think about it.

Sammi: If you just sat and like played roulette, you'd at least have a 50-50 shot, right? Like, it's pretty bad.

Steve: It's pretty rough here. Pretty rough.

Sammi: But yeah, so he's going to be so stressed. He's going to need some night cream. o Night cream. Ooh, pretty.

Steve: Working on my night cream.

Sammi: Yeah, it's lovely.

Steve: Wow. That is fancy.

Sammi: It is fancy. It's even got French on it because everything's from Canada. um Twist to unlock. I'm going to like get this all.

Steve: Smear it all over your face.

Sammi: Yeah, I'm a little scared actually. I'm not going to do that. um I will say I've been using the under eye things that I got in like a recent Jilly box. I love them. They're like so fun to end the day and just put the little gel things underneath my eyeballs feel very luxurious.

Steve: i didn't say you through those I definitely have like the bags under my eyes. Don't sleep too stressed. I'm um'm a no sleep, no water guy.

Sammi: Yeah, you got a hydrate or diatrate. Listen, there's a like I not to say that people compliment me on my skin all the time, but they do. They do. I'll be honest. And they're like, what's your secret? And I'm like, I drink water and use SPF and get facials.

Steve: Mm hmm.

Sammi: That's what I do.

Steve: Yeah, I, I don't, I don't know what to like, okay, so you know how there's all those like, you know, videos or tick tock things or memes or whatever. And it's just like, the girl who needs to be reminded to drink water or whatever. That's just me. I'm just the girl who doesn't drink water. So I can't, I can't relate to those at all. i Why?

Sammi: I don't bring, I don't have like ah an emotional support water bottle like a lot of people do, but I do drink a lot of water at home.

Steve: Why?

Sammi: I also drink a lot of tea, like herbal tea, like so that I'm not up all night.

Steve: Yeah. My thing is like...

Sammi: And that is hydration. Coffee is also hydration. By the way, I'm getting a PhD in nutrition and I'm here to tell you all that coffee hydrates you. It does not dehydrate you. That is BS.

Steve: Okay. That's good to know.

Sammi: That's true.

Steve: Well, then maybe I'm more hydrated than I think.

Sammi: That is actually true.

Steve: Because normally what I do is I drink some coffee in the morning and then I fill my water bottle up and it sits on my desk. And then at like four o'clock, I'm like, oh, why do' I don't have a headache. And it's because I didn't drink any water.

Steve: That's why. Yeah.

Sammi: Yeah, you probably do still need water, but you don't, I mean, unless you're like working out intensely, you don't need like a ton of water every day. Like you you just need enough.

Sammi: um but But coffee is hydrating. It is not, I mean, yeah, it's like a mild diuretic, but not like extreme enough that you're going to like lose all the water that you're taking in.

Sammi: It's like, that's ah um a misconception.

Steve: Okay.

Sammi: So there you go.

Steve: I'm just to chug a bunch of coffee then. Thank you, Sammy.

Sammi: Don't chug a bunch of... Listen, caffeine...

Steve: Thank

Sammi: You shouldn't have too much caffeine, right? you know It's going to screw up your all your cycles and all that.

Steve: you. and

Sammi: But, it yeah. it's So, I don't feel bad about drinking coffee in the morning and sometimes until noon. It's fine. But, yeah. i I'm a big fan of tea. I'm a big fan of... I cannot open this. Oh, I see. I'm a big fan of, like...

Sammi: herbal teas and I drink those like all all day all night. I'll be having one after this. Okay, I can open this maybe. It's got like a seal on it.

Steve: You got smear it all over your face and we'll see if you get a rash or not.

Sammi: Oh, this is a new thing I'm opening. I decided to okay, there's ah there's a knife going on outside of the frame.

Sammi: Okay. New thing. This is another. Ooh. Advanced lip repair serum.

Steve: Ooh.

Sammi: So. Jilly's getting us all restored. She's getting us all restored for spring.

Steve: Wow.

Sammi: She says. Use this lip repair serum.

Steve: Spring Glow. It's about renewal. Renew your lips. Renew your face.

Sammi: Yeah. Look that. That so nice.

Steve: Whoa.

Sammi: If you're just listening to this.

Steve: Replace your Carmex.

Sammi: you yeah Yeah. Oh listen. Menthol. Listen. This doesn't really smell like anything. I didn't think it would. ah Aurora Skin Science.

Sammi: It's got vegan collagen peptide. SH polypeptide 121. So true story. So i used to get facials very regularly.

Sammi: Like every two or three months I'd go. And, you know, kind of get an overhaul and be like, give me the works.

Steve: Mm-hmm.

Sammi: um Nothing super invasive or anything like that. Just like I would say dermaplaning was like the most intense thing we did or whatever. And but my my esthetician closed her business to focus on her family.

Sammi: la no I'm just kidding. um I was very sad, but oh you gonna go with your kids.

Steve: a

Sammi: So she gave me like a list of people that she recommends, but I'm still like looking for someone. So I'm like, I really got to keep up with my skincare at home because like I'm flying solo right now. And like, i don't want to mess it up.

Sammi: So I'm very excited. I'm always interested in new skincare options. And I really, like I said, I really like those under eye ones. I feel hydrated after I use them.

Sammi: So thanks, Jelly.

Steve: Wow.

Steve: Shout out Jilly for hydrating the podcast.

Sammi: hydrating me. Oh, these are cute. Now I'm just like burning through them. We should look at some of these other loser men. I got some earrings though.

Sammi: Look at cute.

Steve: Ooh, very nice.

Sammi: Nice.

Steve: I'd wear those.

Sammi: Very classy. Very cute. Well, I have been getting more ah getting more holes in my ears and also trying to wear more earrings and stuff. I actually don't have anything in my second holes right now, so going to put those in tomorrow. But I did get a new ear piercing like a few months ago. And like before that, I had two that I like tried to get done and they like my ears were like, no, I hate them there. So I had to get them removed. It was like really bad. But anyway, uh, I am trying to get more ear piercings. I just can't stop getting my ears pierced. Oh, my nose ring is out today. i forgot. I fell out in the shower. Anyway, TMI.

Sammi: Um, yeah, I'm just like more piercings, more tattoos, more things to make me, ah not look like I align in any way with this current administration what can I do to make it the most obvious ever forever and ever all right I'm just gonna I'm gonna close my eyes and I'm gonna pick one of these men at random I'm just gonna like this and I'm gonna click oh no I landed on that chiropractor oh no the worst one

Steve: signal that as much as possible

Steve: absolutely terrible

Sammi: Uh, he taught himself how to fire spin. Yeah, I can see that just looking at you.

Steve: what does that even mean he just got drunk and like lit a stick on fire what that's

Sammi: He taught himself to fire spin. oh my God.

Steve: yeah am look that

Sammi: I do want to see him fire spin on the show though. I'm going to be very honest about that. I want to see him fire spin on the show.

Sammi: Let's see what else.

Steve: Who else do we have here?

Sammi: Oh, okay.

Steve: here

Sammi: Rod's job sounds real.

Steve: Okay, what's Rod doing?

Sammi: Okay. This is v Rod's biography. He's an entrepreneur from Austin, Texas. He's 35. Okay. I don't like the first sentence because it's cheesy, but that's okay. That's how these bios always go.

Steve: He didn't write it himself, probably.

Sammi: Serving up Mr.

Steve: Hmm.

Sammi: Right. Rod is a friendly entrepreneur with a big personality and an even bigger desire to find his forever partner. After serving in the military for 17 years, Rod shifted gears to start his own business supporting kids in the foster care system.

Sammi: His passion for helping others doesn't stop there. He's also a nutrition and physical fitness coach. Okay, red flag. um Anyway, the nutrition coach part. What are your credentials, sir? Along with a seriously great cook, you better stay in your lane or the dieticians are going to come for you. Community means everything to Rod, and he's ready to grow his own by starting a family.

Steve: He

Sammi: Acts of service are his love language, so Taylor can expect to be truly cared for and spoiled. With his positive energy and undeniable charm, these two could really hit it off. Ooh, he loves a good aioli. I love a good aioli.

Sammi: Who doesn't?

Steve: likes mayonnaise.

Sammi: I love mayonnaise. um He admits it takes him a while to text back. That's fair, friend. um And he loves a Christmas movie marathon. Maybe he'll add... Eyes wide sh shut to that Christmas movie marathon.

Sammi: Okay, Rod is promising.

Steve: Yeah. Rod, have you seen Eyes Wide Shut?

Sammi: Rod is promising.

Steve: Drop a comment for us, please.

Sammi: Okay.

Sammi: Rod, please be one of the good men on the show because I can't handle it if we don't have at least one good one that I can root for. That's not that's not terrible.

Steve: Yeah.

Steve: Rod, top five Christmas movies. If Eyes Wide Shut isn't in your top five, do you want to hang out and watch it with us? We're available.

Sammi: Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about your entrepreneurship.

Steve: Mm-hmm.

Sammi: And I'm just going to make sure that you give sound nutrition advice. If you start saying eat real food, I'm going to be really mad at you. I'm going to be really mad.

Steve: but

Sammi: Okay, but I'll deal.

Steve: Oh, that's nice.

Sammi: Oh, my. i think I can't. It's such a nightmare at school. Ooh. Yeah.

Steve: bad

Sammi: Okay, I really like my ah wallet, but it's too big for the bag that I use. So maybe this will work with the bag that I use and then I can put the other one in the other thing because this one's slightly smaller than the wallet that I have.

Steve: nice

Sammi: And it's got, I have many a card. This is nice.

Steve: I have a question for you as a nutrition expert

Sammi: By Matt and Nat.

Sammi: I'm not a nutrition expert, but what's your question?

Steve: or ah or a health expert or a food expert.

Sammi: Sure. Well, I'm not an expert in anything. I'm just, I'm just a guy. What's, what's your question?

Steve: Okay. is it Is it more healthy when you do a cold plunge while wearing denim?

Sammi: oh

Steve: Okay.

Sammi: I'm glad this was your question. You know what I heard? And I don't know the research behind this, but I heard that like for women, cold plunges are actually like really bad, but, but I don't know. um You know, it's, I,

Steve: Not for the fellas, though.

Sammi: I saw a TikTok video. Yeah, because like, well, I mean, there's a whole lot of like inequity in terms of like research done on men and not women. And then being like, well, if it's having this effect on men, it must be universal, you know, or like, oh, all white subjects.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: It's going to be the same for everybody. It's like, OK, well, maybe not. um You know, it's really weird. I saw somebody on TikTok like she was on the stair climber and she looked over and it was ah RFK Jr. next to her on the other stair climber and he was wearing jeans.

Steve: like I don't like if it's just too hot outside, like if it's above 75 degrees and I have jeans on, I just want to like tear them off my body. Why?

Steve: How does a man work out in jeans?

Sammi: I don't know.

Steve: How does anyone work out in jeans?

Sammi: It's so, I mean, he does so many things that don't make sense.

Steve: mean,

Sammi: I mean, now they're like, they're like, you, I don't know. I don't even want to do the math on the protein and saturated fat recommendations that they made on their new food pyramid because it literally does not like you can't you can't math that properly.

Sammi: It's a like it doesn't add up. It it defies mathematics.

Steve: tallow. Beef tallow.

Sammi: I hate him. I really thought you were going to ask me like a serious question. So I like wanted to like be like, listen, I'm not even a candidate yet.

Steve: I just need someone to invite you.

Sammi: OK, let's like let's. um No, like the kind of questions that I get asked at home, like Tuck will ask me, he'll be like, is there one food that is universally good for everybody?

Steve: Oh, that's a good one.

Sammi: Those are the kinds of questions he asked me at home and I go, I doubt it. and he's like, Really? Like, and then he'll like pick a food and I'm like, well, I think some people are allergic to that. And he's like, oh, okay. And then I'll be like, what about this? And I'm like, people with kidney issues can have problems with that or like might have too much phosphorus or, you know, whatever. And then he's like, oh, okay. You know, like,

Sammi: I mean, there hasn't been like one thing where I'm like, yeah, I think every single person should eat this. And like, that's the problem with like population level health recommendations is they don't take into account allergies and intolerances and dietary restrictions and surgeries and removed organs that prevent your ability to, you know, consume certain things appropriately. so anyway.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: That's what I have to say about that.

Steve: So not broccoli. Broccoli is not the answer. Hmm.

Sammi: Well, broccoli can be tough for like people with a lot of ah like digestive issues like um irritable bowel syndrome and stuff. like Cruciferous vegetables can be really tough for like IBS.

Steve: Whoa.

Sammi: Depending. They can be high FODMAP and stuff. so like I can eat broccoli no problem. but and For some people, cauliflower is worse than broccoli. It all depends.

Steve: hear that, kids? If your mom says, eat your broccoli, just say, no, mom, I have IBS. Just yell as loud as you can.

Sammi: yeah Don't say that. Look at how cute these are.

Steve: Ooh.

Sammi: These are really fancy. I love them.

Steve: Julie's like...

Sammi: I'm a sucker for a little bowl.

Steve: is this ah Is this a bonus or is this just part of the Jillybox?

Sammi: I, okay, let me tell you a story, everybody. I did not intend to order this chili box because it was $100 Canadian more to go through customs and ships.

Steve: Whoa.

Sammi: And so I said, well, I'm going to skip this one. This is getting heinous. And I get it. Julie can't help it. She's just trying to get these things to America, um the United States of America, rather. And the problem is you can't you can't get add ons right now, like because of all the tariffs, because of all the things that they have to clear and whatever.

Steve: Hmm.

Sammi: It costs them like a shitload to like get anything accepted. So you can only get the base box. You can not get add ons. And it was like one hundred dollars Canadian more. So I was like, I'm just not even going to order it. forgetting that I'm now in this like special tier where it's basically like, if you do nothing, we're just going ship it.

Sammi: So it just shipped, but these are gorgeous. These are absolutely gorgeous. Like, I don't know. To me, this is like you do cute ice cream in here. Or berries, right?

Steve: Oh, yeah.

Sammi: I don't know. It's two.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: comes with two.

Steve: Mmm.

Sammi: They're ah fucking cute. Okay. um We did get that, like, champagne bucket. And, like, I don't even, like, drink, really. um So we did we did give that to my sister-in-law.

Steve: What do you celebrate?

Sammi: and so So we gave it to my sister-in-law. Like, I mean, I have a drink, like, you know, once a fiscal quarter. um So that's it. Okay.

Steve: When the quarterly numbers come in, I like to have a glass of champagne.

Sammi: i had ah I had a guava mimosa the other day. It was really nice.

Steve: All right. all right

Sammi: It was really nice. um But yeah, so I hope this is the right size. Okay, yeah, it is. Because i like didn't put anything in you know for anything.

Sammi: think this is the last thing. Okay, yeah. Sorry if this is really crinkly and loud. um i gotta i got and i gotta a It appears to be a cardigan. It's really cute. it's yes oh it's like a cherry cardigan.

Sammi: And knowing Julie, it's probably oversized because that's how she likes it. Julie likes it oversized.

Steve: Oh, yeah.

Sammi: She's always like slouchy, comfortable, oversized. um Oh, the buttons are like wrapped. I was like, what's going on here? There's a lot of paper. So the buttons look like like this.

Sammi: You can kind of see. They're like a gold brassy button.

Steve: Oh.

Sammi: But they're all wrapped on here so they all look white. But it's just like a cute, nice cherry. I'm pretty good. cut

Steve: That is nice.

Sammi: I honestly wear like, I mean, I haven't really worn the skirt that I got from Jilly, but I just haven't like decided what to style it with. It's like super pleated. I got it a while ago, but like everything else I've gotten from Jilly clothing wise, I wear all the time.

Sammi: So and that robe that I got like a couple springs. That was like two springs ago. I use that all the time. i I got like a towel warmer and I put it in the bottom of the towel warmer and it's so luxurious to put that on out of the shower.

Sammi: Are you kidding me? A warmed robe? um I'm not really sure what.

Steve: that's pretty good i like your cardigan i have a cardigan that actually looks exactly like that except it's blue stripes instead of red stripes so yeah why do we have matching podcast outfits have you ever thought about that

Sammi: Oh, my God. So can we like go somewhere? It's funny. She had a blue or a red and I got the red one. Can we, can we like go somewhere and yeah, like wear matching or yeah. Next time we record, can we wear matching podcast outfits?

Steve: Yeah, of course.

Sammi: Okay. Oh my God. I'm so excited.

Steve: I going to have to buy like a pattern jumpsuit?

Sammi: Yeah, probably. I know the place. I like i can give you the website.

Steve: Yeah, send me the website. I'll get my measurements.

Sammi: Okay. oh Yeah. Well, I can help you with that too. Yeah, for sure. There's a really good community.

Steve: Wonderful.

Sammi: I mean, I'm literally wearing this is like this dress is from that brand too. um

Steve: Nice.

Sammi: I should just listen. They should sponsor the podcast because it's literally my entire wardrobe. But I'm just going to say it anyway because I am obsessed with them.

Steve: There you go.

Sammi: And that's New Works. And that's like the majority of my closet is New Works at this point. It's basically and if you start looking at the prices, you're going to say, Sammy, what the hell is wrong with you? And once I tell you I have over 30 pieces, you'll start to do the math and go, no, seriously, what the hell is wrong with you?

Steve: ah

Sammi: But it's the only clothing I buy, really. So it all works out.

Steve: Well, there you go.

Sammi: Except for this, i got I got from that place in Dallas. Did I ever tell that story? i don't remember if I did.

Steve: Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sammi: The guy who called me Busty.

Steve: Because weren't you working down there? Like, what were you doing down there? I forget what it was.

Sammi: I was driving to Houston. i I drove to Houston, but I stayed in Kansas City and Dallas on the way down and then stayed in Houston for a few days and then went to Tulsa on the way back up.

Sammi: Because I'm a road tripper.

Steve: That's right.

Sammi: And I went to this like really cute boutique and the guy there was really fun. And I actually had wine. He gave me wine. And, um, and, uh, yeah, like he called me busty, but not in a way that like made me offended. You know what i mean?

Sammi: Like he was allowed to call me busty.

Steve: yes ah I like that description.

Sammi: Like.

Steve: Busty in an acceptable fashion.

Sammi: Yeah, he said busty, but not in a way that made me go, oh, that's sexist. You know what I mean? He was just describing the way the clothes fit. Like, you know, because he was just like, oh, we got to put you in something different because you're busty.

Sammi: it

Steve: Yeah, yeah.

Sammi: And I said, understandable. um And then and then, yeah, he got me this, which is like one of my favorite things. And I wear it all the time. And he got me like, well, not got me. I mean, I paid for them, but I wear them all the time. And a blazer that has kind of like graffiti ish looking stuff all over it. And I'm fucking love it. And I wear it constantly. So I will go back there. I like I told Tuck, I'm like, we got to go to Dallas. And when we do, we got to go to this clothing store because it was so good. And Dallas is cooler than I thought it was. Sorry, Dallas, that I didn't think you were cool.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: I actually think you're really cool.

Steve: down all right

Sammi: Yeah.

Steve: new i um I looked at new works by the way, and it is very Sammy core. Uh,

Sammi: It's all my clothes. Yeah.

Steve: no No menswear, it looks like, but look but I feel like a jumpsuit can be unisex.

Sammi: They are unisex for sure.

Steve: i heard

Sammi: Yeah.

Steve: Okay, yeah, yeah. And looking at the measurements, I think I think i could fit here.

Sammi: Yeah.

Steve: so Oh, yeah.

Sammi: Yeah. You got to get a jumpsuit.

Steve: Perfect.

Sammi: There's some nude cuts now too. But yeah, the measurements are very accurate. And also there's a Facebook group that will tell you exactly what size you need to wear. You can be like,

Steve: Perfect.

Sammi: You can be like, this is all the things. And they'll be like, buy this one. And you're like, okay. And they're right on. I don't know why the hell. But anyway, a big fan of new works. Let's see.

Sammi: I'm going to read a little bit about the the Jilly things.

Steve: The Jilly experience?

Sammi: so So the so her the theme of the box, I'm still trying to like surmise it. um Okay. Okay. I could see this. I'm a true believer that elegance shouldn't be reserved for special occasions.

Sammi: Okay.

Steve: Hmm.

Sammi: It's meant to be woven right into our everyday life. A couple of years ago, I traveled to France, and that immediately sparked the idea for this box.

Steve: Rack about it.

Sammi: She's like, oui, striped cardigan. um I wanted to create a love letter to that timeless European luxury where every detail is considered yet completely effortless. and merge it with that romantic, charming, old Montreal feeling.

Steve: Ooh.

Sammi: Of course. This box embodies chic, feminine, and totally elegant vibes that feel so fresh. Think of those soft, serene mornings strolling down a cobblestone street and ducking into a little Parisian cafe for an espresso.

Sammi: Imagine the delicate site delicate scent of petrichor after spring rain or wrapping yourself in something cozy that features a classic beautiful toile or brocade pattern. I don't know if I pronounced that right. I'm not French. ah We wanted to capture that exact feeling of effortless sophistication, and this collection does just that.

Sammi: Every single piece in this box was chosen to bring that elevated cafe society magic right into your home and everyday life. So pour yourself something lovely. Get cozy and dive in.

Steve: me

Sammi: I really hope this collection makes your heart full as it makes mine.

Steve: Oh, silly.

Sammi: Jelly. I really like these.

Steve: You. girl

Sammi: like Yeah, they're coupes. And she she has a recipe for for a pot de creme.

Steve: Oh.

Sammi: Which I could probably ah make dairy-free.

Steve: Wait, how do you? Can you? What what ah what would you?

Sammi: Sure. Sure.

Steve: what's this What's the substitute? How do you how do you get the point?

Sammi: Well, it's whole milk, so I would probably just use coconut milk or something.

Steve: that would work.

Sammi: Or like coconut cream or something like that.

Steve: Mm-hmm.

Sammi: Probably coconut milk would probably be the right consistency. Well, if I do, I will report back and let you all know. Um, yeah, this wallet might be the perfect size for another thing that I needed. Um, I will try the night cream. I will let you know. There's actually like one other skincare thing from her. I haven't tried yet that I've been like, oh yeah, I got to try that.

Sammi: Um, okay. The umbrella, she just says, how perfect is this umbrella? It's just so cute and functional. Sure.

Steve: Yeah, it is.

Sammi: Yeah. I do love the handle.

Steve: last question.

Sammi: I'm like a sucker for old timey handles. Big fan, big fan of an old timey handle. um And she said it offers such a comfortable sturdy grip and adds that traditional sophisticated finish. It's going to go in my in my Prius.

Sammi: ah So in case it rains, I...

Steve: It's going to go in my Prius.

Sammi: This is going in Pepper Ann, okay? Pepper Ann is going have this in her trunk. Okay. um let's see what else they are freshwater pearls yeah the the coops are fucking cute as hell i don't know very obsessed um they are such a sophisticated playful nod to that parisian style they're like yeah they're they are crafted from luminous jade glass they're really like hefty they're really pretty um what'd you say

Steve: pretty advantageingaging They look beachy.

Sammi: what'd you say

Steve: They look sturdy. They don't look cheap.

Sammi: Yeah. Yeah. They're really nice. um I'm very excited. Tuck is going to be like, where are we going to put them? And I'm going to be like, don't worry about it.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: They're pretty. We've got to find a place for them. The add-ons that I did not get were lipstick. um There was like a protein shake thing.

Sammi: um

Steve: getting those spring gains?

Sammi: Another skirt. um Polka dot tool. um Mouth tape. minty mouth tape.

Steve: Hey, some of our listeners think we could use that. Am I right?

Sammi: Wake up at 5 a.m. A mop. a mop Like a ah wow mop. Don't know much about that. Wow, she had a lot of add-ons this time. ah A Jilly charm set.

Sammi: um For like a a bag. Like a bag charm. And that is it. Interesting. Alright, cool. Yeah, no, i I feel good about this selection. I think this is pretty good.

Sammi: Um... Wait a minute.

Steve: Worth the extra hundred jilly bucks to get it.

Sammi: What's in my bag? Oh. Well, I don't know about that.

Steve: but

Sammi: um But we'll see.

Steve: but Look at these tariffs are doing to us right now.

Sammi: who

Steve: they're

Sammi: We'll see if I keep doing it. It literally was an accident.

Steve: uncle

Sammi: like I was just like, well, I'm just not going order it. It's okay. It's just not going to happen this time. And then I got an email that was like, your jewelry box has shipped. And I went, oh, I was supposed to opt out.

Sammi: I like just did nothing. And if we know anything from trolley problems, doing nothing is also a choice.

Steve: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Sammi: no but all this stuff is really cute and i see myself actually using all of it there's nothing i would uh re-gift this is all for me you can't have it but i really like i love i got this really i found this like etsy company that makes really good like leather stuff um and they're really cute and they'll like hand write thank you notes and stuff and um They've got like, ah you know, you can like get them hand stamped and and whatnot, like just really cool.

Steve: That's nice.

Steve: Mm-hmm. Oh, that's nice.

Sammi: And I got like two different sizes of of bags and one is too small for the wallet that I bought from them that I love using.

Sammi: So I'm like, if I, so I haven't been using it. So I'm like, if this wallet is small enough to fit in that bag, that's great because I'm not, I've used their wallet every day.

Steve: you go.

Sammi: And I been, I actually am using a Jilly bag though. The bag that I use every day is a woven bag that I got from Jilly.

Steve: i take chili with me wherever I go.

Sammi: And I'm not really like, i Yeah, it's true. But I'm not the kind of I'm not the kind of gal who like ah switches bags often. You know, there's some people who have like a lot of bags. um You'd think for how colorful I am that I'd have like a million bags and a million shoes. And I don't. I have like I like Birkenstocks and I like like a tan bag because I'm like, I don't have time to do all that. Yeah.

Sammi: You're asking me to, I mean, maybe someday I'll expand, but probably not.

Steve: yeah

Sammi: I just don't. I just, I'm like, that just has to work. It just has to be utilitarian. So it's just funny. I feel like it's like the biggest mismatch of me is like, if you look at my shoes, they're all relatively boring and so are my bags.

Steve: But not your jumpsuits.

Sammi: No, not my jumpsuits. Today, one of my, i was in class. um i I have like class that goes till five. So um thank you for meeting later. And one of my classmates said, oh, I just told my husband I made a new friend in class and she is really colorful.

Steve: ah ah

Sammi: I said, thanks. I agree. um

Steve: okay ah

Sammi: But yeah, that's all I got. Oh my gosh. We're like, we're, well, actually we're just at an hour. So that's pretty good.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: We said we'd keep it to an hour and we are at an hour. Wow.

Steve: An hour. We did it.

Sammi: Look at us.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: i mean, we started a little late, but that's okay. That was my fault.

Steve: Sorry. Well, wait

Sammi: I was on hold with support. I needed some support.

Steve: i had I had to update my camera. Who has to update a camera?

Sammi: Well, my website is being blocked. Like my art website is being blocked on spectrum.

Steve: That's weird.

Sammi: So I had to like, I went to like, and it's a show.

Steve: cable internet has you dead to rights.

Sammi: It's like Shopify, but it's, you know, like I have like a domain, you know, that I bought elsewhere. And I, so I reached out to Shopify and listen, I like, I'm not a big fan of AI. I don't think that that surprises anybody. I'm, I mean, I mostly hate it. And, but when it works well and as Within its correct scope, it can be very good. And I will say to Shopify's credit, I believe they have like a small language model that they've trained to do help for Shopify. So when you have a question, they give you an extremely specific, non-hallucinating answer.

Steve: yeah which is pretty cool I like what that is

Sammi: So that is really helpful. You know, so I was like, hey, here's the issue. And the little bot goes, oh, um like, try this, this and this and this. And you can go to this page and you can check these things. And I go to the page and they're like, I see you're at the page. Do you want me to check it for you? And they check it and they're like, everything is fine. um And we figured out like the error my friend was getting was like related to spectrum. So then i connected with a human and said, this is what the little robot told me to tell tell you.

Sammi: And it said the little robot was right. And I said, well, how about that? um And they're like, and then the human said, here's the link to report it directly so that you don't have to go through all the stuff.

Steve: Hey, there you go.

Sammi: And I said, hey, this was a really nice combination of automated answers and human response. And I got it resolved within 20 minutes.

Steve: Not too bad.

Sammi: Not too shabby. So I just hate like when you email support and they're like, have you tried this thing that literally doesn't exist? Yeah.

Steve: Yeah, that's all.

Sammi: And you're like, no, ah AI hallucination. I didn't try the thing that doesn't exist that you're making up exists. So and I never thought I'd be giving credit to Shopify, but.

Steve: Here we are.

Sammi: Good job, Shopify, your customer service is miles above square. Holy crap. It's night and day.

Steve: Yeah.

Sammi: So love it. But friends, we'll be back, if not for the start of The Bachelorette, ah for a special episode where I talk about Miss Me With That.

Sammi: And you're going to read the fiction book, right? Are you serious? Are you going to?

Steve: um I'll read the fiction. Sure. Yeah.

Sammi: Okay. are wait wait Wait, what's it called? I forgot what it's called.

Steve: it Tell me what it's called so I can read it.

Sammi: Oh, shit. Okay, hold on. Let me get it open.

Steve: oh oh shit.

Sammi: So so no so Rachel Lindsay wrote... ah Oh, interesting. um Oh, no. That's got to be... That's so weird. Okay, I'm on like a fiction database website. um Her book is called Real Love.

Steve: Real love. That's the name of the fiction book.

Sammi: Real Love. That's the name of the fiction book.

Steve: ah Rachel Lindsay. Okay.

Sammi: But what I love about it is... It also brings in all the other people named Rachel Lindsay who have written books and make it sound like it's the same person.

Steve: Hmm.

Sammi: So it says her first book was designed for murder in January 1964. I'm like,

Steve: Oh, yeah.

Sammi: That is not the same.

Steve: She's a vampire.

Sammi: I'm like, what? What are you talking about? But if you go to Rachel Lindsay's website, like rachellindsayofficial.com, and then her URL needs help because it just says Projects 8.

Steve: All

Sammi: Okay. Who's working on Big Rachel's website? we got And her copyright at the bottom of the page is still 2021.

Steve: right.

Sammi: Rachel,

Steve: and

Sammi: call me i will help you Um, but miss me with that is on there.

Steve: here

Sammi: And yeah, real love, um, reality TV love may look tempting, but real love could change everything in the debut novel from the bachelor star and author of miss me with that.

Steve: right

Sammi: Um, so if you read that, uh, I will thank you forever. Okay. So we'll see when that comes in, but so far, yeah, so far her book is pretty good. Uh, five hours in and I, yeah, forgot she went to Marquette. So,

Steve: but

Sammi: You learn something new every day or relearn something new that you forgot. But it's a really weird I will say it's a weird book because it's written from the perspective of her still being married to Brian.

Steve: Oh, that is weird.

Sammi: Yeah. So she's like trash talking Peter, you know, and is like, at but Brian, like, wow. And I'm like, he yikes.

Steve: Might need a version 2.0 or baby yeah maybe, not.

Sammi: Maybe not.

Steve: Who knows?

Sammi: So I will try to watch some of her recent interviews too, because I know she's been like opening up about the divorce process more lately. And it sounds like she sucks. So not that we're surprised. um So I will try to bring that with me with that review. But until then, everybody.

Sammi: Have um what's coming up. I don't know I have a happy pie day. That's coming up on the 14th. If we don't talk to you before then have a joyous pie day. If you're observing Ramadan, I hope you have a very peaceful, peaceful, good, enlightening, ah lovely, fulfilling Ramadan.

Steve: yeah hope you had a great Pulaski day.

Sammi: Yeah. And if.

Steve: It's a good one.

Sammi: And hey, there's another Friday the 13th coming up. So if you didn't get your tattoo flash, you can get it again. And I think there's another one coming later this year. Maybe two. There's a lot of Friday the 13th coming. So watch out for that.

Steve: yeah Don't do needle drugs.

Sammi: Just get tattooed.

Steve: That's not a a thing.

Sammi: Just get needles. No drugs.

Steve: It's a thing for the skin. hunt

Sammi: That was fun dance.

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