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Sammi: I have new fingers today. Hello.
Steve: With new fingers? ah I've never seen these before.
Sammi: I have new fingers. Hello.
Steve: Hello.
Sammi: I'm Sammy.
Steve: I'm Steve.
Sammi: And you're listening to or watching... Oh, the Soda Jerks, actually. We're we're the Soda Jerks right now because we're going to talk about ah Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Steve: Yeah, so talking about Mormon-wise. what are we gonna What are we going to call ourselves when the new season of The Bachelorette starts?
Sammi: Listen. Okay. Everyone, first all, everybody needs to... ah listen to me all the time because I'm always right and I'm good at predicting the future.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: Okay.
Steve: who
Sammi: i not that I said Taylor Frankie Paul is going to be the next Bachelorette. Okay. But what I did say is everything is moving, moving in a Mormon direction.
Steve: Correct.
Sammi: Everything is getting real alt-righty. Did I not?
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: Did I not?
Steve: You did. You did say it.
Sammi: I was mad about the beef tallow.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: I was like, look at all these Mormon crossovers. I was like, this is becoming more Mormon every day. And what do we get? Taylor Frankie Paul is our new bachelorette.
Steve: I'm cracking a non-alcoholic beverage. I'm a Mormon now. There you go.
Sammi: Is that a polar? I love polar. It's not my favorite polar. My favorite is the orange vanilla, but it's pretty good.
Steve: Yeah, there's a lot of good.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: Well, I mean, I just buy the giant pack from Costco because that's what you do.
Sammi: Yeah, that's the way to do it. Yeah, that's the way to do it.
Steve: The closer you march towards 40, the more things you just buy from Costco.
Sammi: Well, i just i just said I just asked the husband today.
Steve: Hold on, there's a bug. but
Sammi: I said, do you want me do you want to look through the member benefits for Costco got mailed to us today? and he said, no. Well, actually, yeah, I do want to. I said, okay, you're responsible for recycling it when you're done.
Steve: Wow. That's so wholesome in Midwest of you.
Sammi: That's what happens in our house. But yeah, like, ah yeah, we're really, yeah, we just, um oh, I got you.
Steve: You guys are wild.
Sammi: You know what drank today? so Speaking N.A., I had a clearly Canadian.
Steve: room
Sammi: Wow. It felt nice.
Steve: It's so weird to me that that came back.
Sammi: I was like, ah, and I was drinking it and I was like, this tastes like my grandma's house. It's so nice.
Steve: Wow.
Sammi: I missed it. I haven't had one of those in a million years. And I like I opened up, we have a garage fridge because we're in the Midwest. And our garage fridge's name is Ernie. And so I opened up Ernie and I see a clearly Canadian in there. And I was like, is this up for grabs?
Sammi: Can I have this with dinner? And he said, you can have it. Yeah, it's for you. And I drank it.
Steve: wow
Sammi: And I was like, this tastes. Actually, i have i have a couple of sips still here. I got the, I brought the rest of it.
Steve: It's weird because it's like it's been back for couple years now, and I'm surprised that it's it's stuck around.
Sammi: Yeah. Yeah.
Steve: Now, it's definitely heavily discounted because I think people go, I remember that, and then they have it. They're like, oh, it's it's like LaCroix, but really sugary.
Sammi: but you added sugar to it, which like, I am like, I drink a lot of sparkling.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: I also have a couple s sips of a Topo Chico. I have, I always have three beverages by me at all times.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: Right now I have a tea.
Steve: Oh my gosh. We got a real beverage girl over here.
Sammi: um i have a Topo Chico and I have a clearly Canadian. This is like a very normal situation for me. And I drank all of these in the last hour.
Steve: Oh. Every woman I know has a minimum of three to four beverages with them at all times.
Sammi: Yeah, I have to.
Steve: I don't know what that says.
Sammi: It's, I don't know. I have to.
Steve: Are all girls beverage girls? It can't be true. Like there has to be some non-beverage girlies.
Sammi: I don't know.
Steve: Just the ones that I hang around apparently.
Sammi: I don't know. I always have to have like at least three beverages. But the weird thing is I don't bring any to campus. Like I'm not ah bring a Stanley to school. Like I might bring um like the rest of my coffee, like a thermos of coffee with me or like tea.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: But I'm not I have to have a Stanley with me on campus. I literally never drink water when I'm away from my home. But then when I get home, I have three beverages immediately.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: So. I guess that's balance, right? I don't know.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: Maybe it's like I get home. I'm like, I want a crispy Topo Chico. um But yeah, i was really excited because like, you know, we never know what we're going to get in the house because um my husband works food rescue. So it's just like whatever excess things he picks up just come into our house. And it's like the most random shit ever.
Sammi: And so, yeah, I like open it up and it was just one bottle of clearly Canadian. And i was like, I will be drinking this with my dinner. This is very exciting to me today.
Steve: All you need.
Steve: He rescued it for you.
Sammi: And it feels. Yeah, feels right. It's an N.A. beverage. So it matches, you know, our soda ladies. And it's also Canadian, which matches Jilly.
Steve: Exactly.
Sammi: And we have right behind me right here. is our very last, hopefully not forever, but last for now, ah fall 2025 Jillybox.
Steve: Yeah.
Steve: Guys, just remember what Trump took from you.
Sammi: so I know. It's so ah sad Like, like, listen, I mean, you know, all the things are terrible, but really the Jilly box was just the nail in the coffin. It's just terrible.
Sammi: um Yeah, I was I was so happy for it to get through customs. And I think I don't remember when it came sometime last week it came. So just been sitting here. I just opened it like just, you know, split it open just tonight.
Sammi: So I haven't looked at a thing, but I hope it's good because it's all we get. It's all we get.
Steve: That's all we got.
Sammi: We did ah our clip of rest in peace. Jilly got posted today.
Steve: Yep, gone but not forgotten. We love you, queen.
Sammi: Yeah. Gone but not forgotten. Oh, I think it's like making food stuff. I'll grab one thing for now.
Sammi: Okay. We're going to start.
Steve: The Jillybox is just all the things you need for a funeral.
Sammi: I think it's a lot of kitcheny things, which um if you know me, you know, I like kitcheny stuff. I literally study home economics for a living. um So, so yeah, home economics, trad wives.
Sammi: I feel, I swear to God. that this whole thing is culminating to just feature into my dissertation in some way. I swear.
Steve: ha
Sammi: I'm just like, I can't.
Steve: We're getting there slowly.
Sammi: This has to this has to work. um Rachel. Oh, first of all, Rachel Lindsay. Did you hear she's publishing a tell all about her divorce?
Steve: Oh, no, I like that.
Sammi: Yeah, I still haven't read her first book, which I will definitely read. Maybe we'll do both of them at the same time.
Steve: hmm.
Sammi: Um, but yeah, apparently she's publishing a tell all. I saw that on, um, I saw that on Reddit or something like that. Now I'm trying to find it again, but she just, she kind of like, uh, came out and made, uh, she doesn't make a lot of bachelor nation statements, you know, anymore, but she did make one, um,
Sammi: just recently about Taylor Frankie Paul because she's like, and she was like, this is what, this is what the series needed, you know?
Steve: o
Steve: Yeah, yeah.
Sammi: oh wait, nevermind. Wait. Oh, hold on. Is she not doing it? Is Caitlin doing it? But she said she wants to do it. i I saw something on like Reddit.
Sammi: See, now I'm doing the unconfirmed leaks, although mine isn't that bad.
Steve: Mmm.
Sammi: um
Steve: yeah
Sammi: Wait, is it Caitlin's? Caitlin's doing a tell-all? Hold on one second. Okay, Us Weekly. Oh, I see. I see. Caitlin Bristow did a tell all podcast about her breakups with Sean Booth and Jason Tardik.
Sammi: And I mean, anything Caitlin does, people just hate for some reason.
Steve: Yeah,
Sammi: um And then.
Steve: yeah they're always mad at her for just existing.
Sammi: i swear to God, I'm like, what is going on?
Steve: It's strange.
Sammi: Like, she can't do anything. People are just like so mad. OK, let's see. So this was a tell. Oh, this was in April twenty twenty five. And then, yeah, Rachel said, good for you for telling your story. it gets to a point where you're like, enough is enough.
Sammi: I'm almost there, girl. So maybe, yeah I swear to God, she said something about, um I just saw something about her doing a tell-all. Yeah. Let me see if I can find it.
Sammi: Oh, yeah. She's writing a tell-all divorce book. Yeah, this was one day ago. Okay, this on the Bachelor subreddit. um She announced on one of her podcasts, Morally Corrupt, that she's writing a divorce book.
Sammi: She's only written a chapter. Okay, and doesn't have a book deal yet. um But I will pre-order that book so fast. OMG. She said she'll get into it all. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but someone said, I'd buy it simply because I dislike Brian $20 worth. Yeah.
Sammi: Here's the thing.
Steve: but
Sammi: I never liked Brian, but I was like, I liked her so much that I was like, OK, maybe I'm just not seeing what you see. It's TV.
Steve: yeah yeah sure
Sammi: If you're happy, that's great. I think you're great. I'm sure. um But now I feel slightly vindicated and very excited about whatever she has to offer. So I'll have to read her first book and then read her divorce book because I think that's going to be really fun.
Steve: i'll get down with that
Sammi: Um, and, um, how do i make a, how I make a a connection between these? i don't know if I can. Um, it's going to get messy, you know, it'll get messy.
Steve: oh
Sammi: So what you need to do is you you got to clean things up and, and how do you clean things up with Nelly's dish stick? Nelly's dish stick. So this is like, so it's one of those, well, it's one of those things that it comes with like these soaps.
Steve: What does a dish stick do for me? it looks like it's going to come alive in Beauty and the Beast. What does it do?
Sammi: soap inserts that you put inside of it and then you can scrub your dishes with it it's quite sturdy i actually have something like this but it's getting a little old and grody it's like um i got it from like grove forever ago um and so this is like a new version of that so this could replace it and then it's got yeah these nice little soap inserts you get your dishes all nice and clean thanks nelly's dish stick
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Steve: Yeah, shout out to the dish steak.
Sammi: Yeah, and you know who else likes to get messy? The Mormon wives. Oh, queen of transition.
Steve: oh
Steve: Love that for us.
Sammi: um So, yeah, so we're going to cover a little bit of episodes five and six of season two. And I've finally started to catch up, which is so bad that I am this far behind.
Sammi: um But basically, know. Okay, so in these episodes, where we're starting with the Jen is fake. It kind of like left on a cliffhanger, right? Episode four. And it was like, I think Jen is fake.
Sammi: And then we talk about Jen being upset and on the outs. And when we get all the way through episode six, we're like at the pickleball celebrity tournament in Scottsdale.
Steve: this
Sammi: So that's kind of like the range of things. Yeah. that we're going to cover. um But basically, yeah, here's the thing. I don't know how I want to cover this. I feel like thematically.
Sammi: um I just don't get the whole, they need them to stop pushing the Jen is the new Whitney thing. It's just, it was annoying to me and the beginning episodes. It's still annoying to me now.
Sammi: these They aren't anything like each other. Okay. Yeah. They both made it to Dancing with the Stars.
Steve: now Yeah, but that's it.
Sammi: Fair.
Steve: But, like, they're they're not...
Sammi: But that's the closest that they have in common. It's just like, I don't get this constant like, oh, this is what they're like. They're both like the same.
Steve: No, gent Jen is not the main character. She's not... Like, she never wants to be.
Sammi: No.
Steve: She's too... i don't mousy is I don't want to seem like derogatory, but it's like Whitney is very pick me. I'm here. Please let me participate.
Steve: And Jen is not like Whitney is a good villain because she wants to be in a position of power. And I don't think that Jen craves power in the same way.
Sammi: Jen likes to be the life of the party, but not necessarily the center of attention.
Steve: There we go. I like that.
Sammi: Thank you. Thank you.
Steve: Very good. Very good.
Sammi: Clip it. ah Yeah. I mean, I think that that's like the big difference because it's like we see, i mean, the reason they're both on Dancing with the Stars is because out of all the Mormon wives, they are the ones who dance the most and dance the best.
Sammi: And Jen has made... you know, a series of her like dancing on her kitchen countertop. Right. Like that was like a big thing.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And Whitney obviously, you know, dances when her kid has RSV. So it's basically the same thing.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: It's basically the same thing. That's what I'm saying. It's like, it doesn't make any sense. Um, But yeah, like I I'm just really tired of that whole that whole narrative and everyone just trying to push Jen out because the the I just feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone watching these episodes because I'm like, you know, you've got Zach who's who's still trying to be like, I'm an understanding, caring guy who totally didn't fly off the handle when my wife went to a Chippendale show last year and and micromanaged her while spending all of her money in the casino.
Sammi: that's totally not what happened and yeah and my family joke was not meant to be taken seriously actually we never even told the joke in the first place Jen just made that up out of nowhere
Steve: yeah what what did happen please please do tell yeah
Steve: which is he's the worst i hate
Sammi: i just he makes my skin crawl dude he really does
Steve: Like the the way the internet was briefly trying to rehab him too, because he was doing little dancey TikToks. They were like, oh, are we going like him now? No, you're not.
Sammi: No, no, you're not. No, you're not.
Steve: He's a dickhead. Dickheads can be charming little dancers. You ever met a narcissist?
Sammi: I mean, here's the thing, you know, that's that's the thing.
Steve: Come on.
Sammi: OK, like when it comes to like Whitney and Connor, I do find them entertaining. I think they're fun to watch. I think she's a good villain and I think they have a good dynamic together. And I really enjoy watching both of them on my TV, even though I know they're villains.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: They are good. They are very good at it. um But yeah, that's the problem. Like Jen is not a villain and she's very fun. I think she's very fun to watch.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: um She cracks me up. um But the problem is like Zach is a villain, but he's trying not to be a villain.
Steve: who
Sammi: um So it just doesn't work. It doesn't it. None of it, you know, none of it works. They just and they don't.
Steve: Got embrace who you are.
Sammi: They don't have like a good on camera rapport and chemistry the way, you know, like the way that some of the other couples do or the way that some other of the, you know, folks on the show do.
Steve: Yeah, and it's it's hard to hate Jen, too, when on the other hand, you've got Demi like, yeah, I think she's faking being depressed because she's a dumb hoe. ah
Sammi: Dude, that was so fucked up. Like, i mean, I know that they don't get all of the details on like what was going on and that she was like clearly having like sounds like suicidal ideation and things like that.
Steve: That's real fucked up, man.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And just like really, really, you know, and she's like um saying that it's like prenatal depression.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And sounds like she's also had issues with postpartum depression in the past as well. And like she is like total. And also it's like she obviously has been having feelings of I don't know if this marriage is actually right for me.
Sammi: So to go through that on top of like a lot of hormonal changes and and having, you know, mental health struggles like I'm just like, God, you I mean, they really did kind of I know that this is production as well, but they teed it up to make them look as heartless as possible.
Steve: Yeah, yeah.
Sammi: It's just so bad. But also like nobody's forcing you to say that like she's making up being depressed. And there it's just like, well, we all get a little sad or what, you know, it's like, shut up.
Steve: Pretty much. It's freaking gross.
Sammi: You sound like Tom Cruise talking about, you know, Brooke Shields. Like, what the fuck is your problem? um It's really, really messed up. um
Steve: It is.
Sammi: But yeah, I think the other thing that's just perpetually frustrating about the show is like that there I mean, many, ah many, many women on the show, i want them to deconstruct. But the two women I want to deconstruct the most are Taylor and Jen. I'm like, please deconstruct.
Sammi: please be our free gingers. you know i like i just i can see it. I can feel it. I feel like you'd be happier on the other side deconstructing. don't i i don't know. maybe Maybe Taylor will get there someday. i mean A lot of people are upset, and I and i think rightfully so. you know They've been saying, like well, Taylor's mega. I'm like...
Sammi: They're all Mormons. Okay.
Steve: Yeah, it's like...
Sammi: Miranda and Layla are the only two outliers in that scenario.
Steve: what
Sammi: As far as we know,
Steve: Yeah, and even then, it's like, I don't know their politics, but you gotta understand, if if you are a Utah, even former Mormon, even if you're like, I like dildos and have boobs now, like, that you know, this this whole thing where they're like, sex positive girlies, the furthest to the left that they are is the most middle of the road, milquetoast liberal you have ever met in your entire life.
Sammi: Right, exactly.
Steve: None of these women have radical politics, okay? they're not They're not on the same page as yeah
Sammi: Like, yeah, listen, we're not trying to hang out with them. OK, we're just watching we're watching a show and also talking about how it um aligns with ah the way our country is going, that the show like this would be popular.
Steve: Yeah. Mm-hmm. yeah
Sammi: Right. It makes perfect sense. But it's so interesting how much they do lean into it, because it's like I do think we will see at least one of the women on the show, like de defect and deconstruct in the future.
Sammi: That's something that we've seen on other shows that feature Mormons. um on reality TV, like, you know, sister, I mean, sister wives and, you know, real housewives of Salt Lake City.
Steve: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And, you know, it's like, it's not uncommon. It's like, if you're already kind of breaking norms in this very strict religion, we'll call it um for the sake of the show.
Sammi: And, you know, you're already doing things that they don't like. So then you start to get pressured. um You start to get exposed to things that are outside your world.
Sammi: um You start to go, interesting. What about this? What about this? Why is this so weird? This is an odd rule, isn't it? You know, so I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of these women in the next like few years, like walks away.
Sammi: and I would say, i think Taylor is the best candidate for it just because of like how unsupportive her whole family is too. It's like, I, she's, she's constantly being hounded by her family members and micromanaged within an inch of her life.
Steve: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And like, And then they get mad at her. It's just so weird. I don't know. The whole thing is weird. It's like you're going to pressure her to like rush to get married with these men she's interested in because it's part of the culture.
Sammi: And then, you know, you probably don't. you know, it's all about be fruitful and multiply. So then she has kids and then you're like, well, you have kids with too many dads now. It's like, okay.
Sammi: And then she's trying to be casual with Dakota and be like, well, listen, we're trying to co-parent and don't expect anything.
Steve: Yeah, pick your land.
Sammi: We're sleeping together, but like we're, friends, kind of whatever. I don't know. We're trying to figure it out, which honestly is probably the best way to navigate it right now because it's like, yeah, don't don't overcommit to this person who does not seem to be very good for, you are not good for each other at all.
Steve: No. I mean, if I had the counselor on it, I'd probably say, i don't know, maybe don't sleep with him.
Sammi: Yeah, but but they're like but they're like, don't do it.
Steve: You know, if you're gonna...
Sammi: And it's like, why? She's 30.
Steve: Yeah, she can do whatever she wants.
Sammi: She's 30. Just stop controlling her.
Steve: Grown woman.
Sammi: You know, it's like, how well has controlling her worked so far? Oh, not well?
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: Because she just rebels against it and then engages in soft swinging and the whole scandal is the reason for this TV show?
Steve: Yeah. Seems like it.
Sammi: Meanwhile, wait.
Steve: It's a lot of repression going on here. and it's It's just like anything else.
Sammi: who was it was who was it who was trying to make more money now i'm trying to remember who was it who was trying to get like the bigger contract was it to me yeah and taylor was like yeah taylor was like um yeah she wait wasn't wait was it her or was it macy okay because jesse but aren't they like best buddies so okay all right i'm like that's why i was like wait is that true
Steve: That was Demi. because she started to kick people off the show.
Steve: Yeah, she was trying she was trying to start to kick like Jesse off the show. Yeah, that's why I was filthy.
Sammi: um
Steve: I love how Demi in season one was just like nothing. like she was just She was just like background noise.
Sammi: Well, she was like scandalized by cereal, you know, that was to me.
Steve: And now she comes... Yeah, yeah.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: That was her whole thing. It's just like, oh, there's a weird breakfast cereal sex thing that none of us actually understand.
Sammi: Mm hmm.
Steve: And that's your whole shtick. And now she comes in like Emperor fucking Palpatine in season two. This is, it's amazing. Like Whitney is such a classic villain in in that she wants to be liked and and she does things that are evil to sort of get to that point.
Steve: But to me, just seems like a real dick. Yeah.
Sammi: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I, that's what I'm saying. I don't think she's likable like at all. It's very weird.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: And I think Jesse is a lot more likable than to me because Jesse understands her role on the show too. She's like, and she's just fully owns it. She's like, I stir the pot. That's what I do.
Sammi: I'm here and I stir the pot and I, and I do everybody's hair.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: So it's a centralized place where you can come and talk and get your hair done by me and get questions. Well, I won't say anything mean about the extensions,
Steve: yeah
Sammi: You'll get your hair done here. And and that's great. And so like she's got the location. She's got her function. She knows what she's supposed to be doing. And yeah, but I was so I like questioning my own memory and I just pulled up like a vulture recap to make sure I was like, yeah, here it is.
Sammi: um Yeah, like that. Yeah, it's just wild that Jesse is so understanding of Demi when she's like trying to make more money and kick her off the show.
Sammi: And, you know, and and it's like, I think one of the arguments was like, well, Jesse has like a lot of money, you know, because her her Yeah, her business is so good.
Steve: Oh, she's loaded because of her business. Yeah.
Sammi: And it's like, yeah, but also like one of the things that's going to keep it going is the promotion on the show. so She's got a real incentive to be there. And we've got like Macy who, who like promoted her, like, what was it like supplement line or whatever. And, you know, so we've had like other women on the show, like talk about their businesses and things like that. So it's just weird. Like to me, it doesn't even bring as much to the table as Jesse does, in my opinion. So, and she's not the star of the show by any means. Like,
Sammi: There are so many like even Michaela is bringing way more this season than to me is. And Michaela was like, we forgot she existed last year.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: And she did a bunch of TikToks where it was like, I'm over here. you know, remember me? I was in like two episodes or whatever. And so it's like a lot of the women.
Steve: well now she cracks me up because her whole thing is like she's still not a big personality but she's just like there's people here that i absolutely hate and no matter what i'm not going to acknowledge them like i'm just gonna continue to hate their guts she's the only person who sticks by their guts everyone else is a dick to each other but they're like i love you sister hud
Sammi: Mm hmm.
Sammi: Yeah. Yeah. Michaela's like, um I had a problem and everybody's going to know about it. OK, because this is making my skin worse.
Steve: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: So I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell you all off for good skin reasons. And I'm like, I kind of I kind of love that. I'm not opposed to it. Again, better TV like she makes better TV than to me. Like, I feel like most of the women on the show are doing more and being more interesting than to me is. And And like, I mean, i feel like they tried to paint Taylor so poorly in the beginning, you know, and it's like she really, I feel like she is not necessarily trying to be the center of attention the way that people act like she is.
Sammi: I feel like she is pretty good at sharing the spotlight. And she's also like realistic, though. She's like, I mean, what did she say? Something like, well, I guess like get your money or or whatever.
Sammi: But like,
Steve: Yeah, exactly.
Sammi: Remember why you're here because I humiliated myself on the Internet. OK, so like she could be a way bigger dick about that than she's being.
Sammi: And she's just like, i mean, just a reminder, like that wasn't about you.
Steve: No.
Sammi: It was about me. So you're welcome.
Steve: Yeah. ah the show is, yeah, the show is totally an outgrowth of the fact that Taylor Frankie Paul is the main character, and she could be dethroned from that, but she's just a wonderfully messy, likable person, you know?
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: It's like all these mistakes that she made, yeah, she's interesting, there's layers to her, and that's why, you know, when people are like...
Sammi: Yeah, I think she's just, she's naturally interesting. Yeah.
Steve: Oh, my God, I can't. She has regressive political views and also ah got arrested in season one for domestic violence. She can't be on The Bachelor. It's like, OK, listen, we we need we need to like mesh these two things because The Bachelor is like ultimate purity. Right.
Sammi: yeah
Steve: And so is Mormonism. So they are compatible in that way.
Sammi: Mm-hmm.
Steve: But we have to have a little bit of spice, a little bit of zestiness. Otherwise, if you just bring in anybody like that, it that is extremely religious, i then what is no one going to like kiss or like, are they going to get married in episode three?
Steve: You're just going to end up with like an ultra Claire Crowley season or something. It's not going to be good. No one's going to want that.
Sammi: Well, and like, okay, and there was that one, i didn't even watch the show with, um, Caitlin and, um, Colton. They like co-hosted like a virgin dating show.
Steve: Oh, yeah, it's on Hulu. Yeah, it's like some...
Sammi: They had a couple episodes that were playing like after the bachelor too, after a bachelor period. I did not watch it. Um, Yeah, it's like you don't want that. And also, like like I'm saying, I do think Taylor is the person who has like the best potential for changing her views.
Sammi: And I want to see her evolve as a person. And I feel like we've already seen her change and grow as a person So that to me is interesting.
Sammi: It's like I didn't watch like 19 kids and counting because I believed in what they believed in.
Steve: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: I didn't watch Sister Wives in the beginning because of that either. It was fascinating. There's a reason I've watched Jesus Camp like over 20 times. OK, because Christian fundamentalism and Mormonism are like inherently fascinating to me.
Sammi: So I am not condoning anything that anyone believes in, although they keep pulling up like posts that she made like eight plus years ago. There's a good chance she's changed her mind since then.
Sammi: I don't know. And she's kept it quiet.
Steve: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: I don't know. I don't know any of that. but But the ones that they keep pulling up are from like 2016 or something like that. Or oh I don't know. Old. They're old. Maybe not that old. They're old. um And so...
Sammi: so Okay, maybe they're a little bit more recent. I don't actually know. I know they're old. um But anyway, it's just like, yeah, you're watching The Bachelor because you agree with the people on the show.
Sammi: Like, have you not been paying attention to all of the people who've been on the show?
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: It's like we get bright spot.
Steve: And don't get us wrong. We're still going to talk shit.
Sammi: Yeah. Yeah.
Steve: We will, of course. But also, you can be entertaining and on my television. Like, how many how many bands do I like? How many, you know, actors, actresses, ah you know, ah people that are on television embarrassing themselves on reality shows?
Steve: How do these people share my politics? I would say very few. You know, like...
Sammi: I mean, you know, it's like, yeah, I don't know. it Am I going to throw a bunch of money to people who are doing harmful things? Like, no.
Steve: Yes.
Sammi: um Am I going to, I mean, this is what I was saying before. Like, if you don't want to watch it and you want to save yourself, you want to save the view, just come listen to us. We'll talk about it and we'll talk shit about it and it'll be fun.
Steve: who
Sammi: But I also think it is important to, I feel like The Bachelor has been a really interesting litmus test of, kind of like where middle America is at at any point in time, like since the very beginning.
Steve: yes
Sammi: And it was interesting because there I did feel a lot of promise not that long ago when they were like, oh, we're going to start talking about like queer relationships. And I was like, OK.
Sammi: and it And I feel like there was a glimmer. And I hate to say that with like Aaron and James, there was like a glimmer of, oh, we could go in a new, exciting direction.
Steve: Are they go to kiss?
Sammi: Yeah, they could kiss. No, but like, you know, it's like we could do bromances. Yeah. And maybe we'll do more queer stuff. And, you know, and we had some people on the show who were really interesting and have been interesting off camera, you know,
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: um and We've got not Demi. We've got Demi. We've got Gabby. We've got people who have left the show and are like doing really interesting things and talking about really interesting topics like far beyond what The Bachelor does. Obviously, Rachel is another good example of that.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: um But the problem is they're not bringing that good stuff to the show.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And that is going to remain that way, especially when we have commercials of like, you know, about eugenics um and genes. Like, it's just like that's that's where we're at as a country.
Sammi: And I do think it's important for us to pay attention to that and understand like that frame of mind like it reminds me of gosh now I'm trying to remember there was like a video essay I watched or something like that where they talked about like all the weird like American flag outfits that like permeated TV after 9-11 you know it was like in in 2002 through 2005 it's like all that old navy flag shirt and all that shit you could find that on every show and I remember it super prominently on s Sabrina the Teenage Witch that's the show that I remember it on the most
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Steve: but
Steve: Well, and now it's, so I don't know i feel like that stuff is even more popular or just as popular as it was then.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: But it's always like, it's somehow douchier.
Sammi: Right.
Steve: Like there's something hokey about a person who's American just wearing an American flag shirt. But now it's all like tactical. And what if the stars were Punisher skulls?
Steve: Like, so.
Sammi: hu Yeah, it was so it was like it used to be like bedazzled, right? Like you'd have like a rhinestone shirt or whatever.
Steve: Yeah, yeah.
Sammi: And it was like it was this weird time that it was like, even though this is such an odd situation and there is a lot of ah terrible Islamophobia happening, there was also this weird like, but we're in it together.
Sammi: Well, except for, yeah you know, except for some people, except for some people.
Steve: Yeah. Yeah, they're like, we're all in it together.
Sammi: um Freedom for some people.
Steve: Not the brown folks. Like, that was the subtext.
Sammi: Yeah, exactly. and And it was like, okay, I guess this is as close as we're going to get. but that was But that's interesting because that's around the same time that we had the first Bachelor season. you know It was like 2001 that we had the first season of The Bachelor.
Sammi: So if we're starting in... Sorry, I got so excited. If we're starting in that time and then you know and now we're here and you know and people are you know getting fired for quoting people
Steve: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: interesting time that we live in. um I think it's important to understand. It's like, why did they make a decision like this right now? Why did they choose to have, you know, after they had their first, you know, Asian American bachelorette,
Sammi: wit Not that long, like a year ago, you know? And to go, first of all, it's like, why did it take so long, right? But then to go from that to having like a Mormon bachelorette is a very, yeah, significant thing that we should pay attention to.
Sammi: um and you don't have to like it and you don't have to watch it. And I don't blame anyone for not watching it, but I also think it's like an important, I don't know, way of understanding where people's heads are at right now.
Sammi: that's kind of how i That's kind of how I think about it Because there are certain things that I'm like, I don't even want to watch it. I will say the one thing I didn't watch today was Ned Fulmer's podcast.
Steve: Oh, the try, wait, the try guy, isn't he getting divorced or so? He's separated, isn't he?
Sammi: Yeah, well, he did a podcast with his, well, I guess still wife. They're separated, but yeah.
Steve: Oh, wow.
Sammi: They did a podcast together today. and But this is what I'm saying. You don't have to give them...
Steve: The try guys try a trial separation.
Sammi: Yeah, you don't have to give them the views. You know, you can watch what I did is I just watched clips like you don't have to give them the views. Just come to us for the recap. We'll talk shit.
Steve: That's
Sammi: You don't have to do. But yeah, that's what I did. I was like, well, I don't want to give them the views. I don't have to. I'll watch somebody else's thing. It was like the most uncomfortable thing I've ever watched. And I just watched clips.
Steve: fair.
Sammi: It was really bad, but it also like reminded me of ah my life a little too much. I was like, I was like, oh, but okay.
Steve: that's fair
Sammi: Like he said something like, he said something like, oh, I didn't realize how much I hurt you until like, you know, until I like talk to you or something. And she's like, you didn't realize how much you hurt me. Like,
Sammi: it It took you how and I was like, I had a someone wrote me a letter that said something like that.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: It's kind of interesting. um This is OK. So but um this is one thing that I will pay attention to. And that's the next item in the Jilly box.
Steve: Yeah!
Sammi: And oh, my God, here's what's amazing. I was like, I need more half cups in my life because for some reason I use one half cup measuring cups the most.
Sammi: for everything. I need a half cup for everything. And I only have two of them and I burn through them. And then and ah in a day, sometimes I'll use like four or five half cups. I don't know why. So I got a nice set of measuring cups and they're nice metal measuring cups.
Sammi: They're really cutesy.
Steve: Oh, well, look at that.
Sammi: And they even got a cute little ribbon that ties them up and they're perfect. So I got a whole one cup
Steve: Made in Canada. Yeah.
Sammi: A half cup, a course, a third cup, and fourth cup. And they're really cute nesting. Like I said, lots of kitchen-y stuff. And i that's, that's my lane, okay?
Sammi: Kitchen-y stuff.
Steve: And if if you get mad at your husband, you can yell at him and chase him around the kitchen and bonk him on the head with him, right?
Sammi: Yes, exactly. Like a good trad wife would do. And let's talk about making sourdough.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: Okay. um Wait, what is the saying that they brought up?
Steve: Let's do it.
Sammi: Shit. I forgot what it was called. It was like CTA or something. That's called to action.
Steve: What was their...
Sammi: Mormon.
Steve: They had a call to action on on sourdough?
Sammi: Yeah. Remember what was it? What was it called? It was like, it was, yeah.
Steve: Oh, and their bake-off thing that they did?
Sammi: What was the, what was the thing? It was like, I'm trying to find it. Um, Okay. Tender mercies. What's that? I'm looking at Reddit post that's like, what are some humorous and ridiculous Mormon sayings?
Sammi: Do you remember? Modest is hottest.
Steve: e
Sammi: That's funny. No, remember they like dusted their sourdough with it?
Steve: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah Oh, shoot.
Sammi: Yeah. What was it?
Steve: I forget. But they had, yeah, they just, that's like the design thing that they put on there.
Sammi: Yeah, Mormon...
Steve: Yeah. Mormon sourdough bread design. Yeah.
Sammi: Mormon Crest? Like, it was like a...
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: I don't know. Saying... I don't know what it was called.
Steve: But it was a whole thing.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: And then everybody did it.
Sammi: Choose the right CTR. Oh, click-through rate.
Steve: Choose the right CTR. You were close. Yeah.
Sammi: I was like, CTA, CTR. Not call to action, but click-through rate.
Steve: Click through rate. Yeah.
Sammi: Okay.
Steve: Mormons care about their click through rates.
Sammi: Mormons care about click through rates. You heard it here first.
Steve: That's right. what's What's the page bounce level?
Sammi: Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. So they, so they put a click through rate on their sourdough loaves. So they do this bake up and it's like, I think that's the thing that's fascinating to me is they're not even trying to hide it.
Sammi: You know, they're like trad wives. Yes, we want that. That's good. We like that.
Steve: Oh,
Sammi: and um And what we like to do is we make ah we're going to make Mormon-themed baked goods and have a bake-off. And I will say the energy on this show is so different from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Sammi: you know It's like Salt Lake City is like we're Mormon in name only for the most part.
Steve: oh yeah.
Sammi: you know And this is like, no, we are going to bring up all the chuggy Mormon stuff right now.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And and they're like... Yeah, two of them do a loaf of sourdough. And then they fight over who had the sourdough starter first. So Macy was like, no, I had the sourdough starter.
Steve: Yes. the Oh, I got it from you. No, I got it. from How do you not know? That's so weird.
Sammi: Macy's like, I had the sourdough starter. And Whitney was like, oh, oh, no, I had the idea first. OK, the only reason Macy's making sourdough is because of me.
Sammi: And it's just like the funniest it is the trad wifey is fight ever yeah
Steve: It's bread. Yeah. No, the the whole bake off thing is that was hilarious. And it was also the one time that I don't know, you felt like any sort of real just like vulnerability and and humility and like, obviously they were competing, but they were allowed to be silly and some of their food visibly looked like it sucked ass and that was okay.
Sammi: yeah it was good camaraderie yeah
Steve: It's like, Hey, maybe you guys are normal and not weird. Maybe mom talk will survive this.
Sammi: Yeah, the sisterhood was very present in that in that room, um for sure.
Steve: Hmm.
Sammi: and and like, yeah, but here's the thing that bothers me. OK, they made all this effort. The sourdough takes a long time. The loaves are great. Also, I do think i I do think all of the food that they brought, though, was very reminiscent of their personalities.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: It was like everything was so on brand because Taylor brings in stuff and they're like, wow, this looks great. This tastes great. And she's like, yeah, I went to the store and then I like messed it up a little bit.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: So then it looked homemade. And I was like, that is so on brand for Taylor. And that nobody would get mad if, you know, she's like, yeah, I just bought it from the store and fucked it up a little bit. And like, so, but then here's the thing that annoyed me is like, to me, can't pick a lane.
Sammi: I think that's the part that bothers me the most is like,
Steve: Oh, God. Yeah. It's like, stick to your guns here.
Sammi: she doesn't She doesn't own anything because she's like, oh, well, there's like this cake and it's called better than sex cake.
Steve: Be horrible.
Sammi: But in Mormon culture, we call it better than what cake. So I'm going to do that, except I'm going to put penises in it. and I'm like, then just call it better than sex cake.
Steve: Just call it better than that. Exactly. You got to pick your lane, girl.
Sammi: Like, if you're going to do that, like, what's the point?
Steve: This is her entire personality, right?
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: She always wants it both ways.
Sammi: And what was the name of that store? It was like it had some like punny name. It was like baked and confused or something like that. It wasn't like that.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: But is so it was like a really fancy like specialty baking place, you know.
Steve: who
Sammi: Um, oh gosh, I was going to write it down. Um, but I'll be honest, I was also painting. Um, I was so inspired by the Mormon wives that I was, I was working on a painting at the same time.
Sammi: Um, but yeah, I think the thing that's like really, um, annoying is like, yeah, the, you could have more fun. you could be having more fun. And like the whole thing is you started by doing a bunch of fun, silly TikToks together.
Sammi: So we know that you are capable of having fun and having a good time, but there's like a lot of like schisms in the group right now.
Steve: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: So there's like, you know, so what'll happen is, you know, Whitney's like, Hey, do you want to come to my baby Billy baby shower? yeah, They're like, I don't know. And then Miranda's like, right.
Sammi: I really enjoy Miranda. I would like to see more of her because I think she's really cool. And she was just like, well, I think I'm going to have a great time. this is going to be awesome. and She's like, what if it's just us talking back and forth?
Sammi: in the group chat and we're standing right next to each other. And I honestly think that's very funny. um But I like the group that's kind of on the outs way more than the group that's on the inside.
Sammi: Like, I think they're a lot more fun.
Steve: Oh, sure.
Sammi: And I and I am disappointed with Layla because I feel like she should also be with the ones on the outs and she'd have a lot more fun.
Steve: Also, like, where where is she?
Sammi: She's just being so boring.
Steve: I feel like Layla has been like not included in as many group activities post-season two.
Sammi: But she's trying to be, that's what I'm saying. Like she's trying to be involved because she's like hanging out with Demi and Jessie.
Steve: Yeah.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: But like she doesn't get a chance to she doesn't get a chance to shine in those settings.
Steve: But, like, what did she do?
Steve: No, no.
Sammi: Like I think if she actually hung out with the other women, they she would have more fun. That's my point.
Steve: who
Sammi: Because like it's like her storyline in season one was like the divorce, right? And then, and I forgot how young she is.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: Every time I'm like blown away when I'm like,
Steve: Oh, she's super young. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: 23 oh my god dude that's wild um but yeah so she you know and then it's like this season she's dating that new guy and he's kind of like mormon royalty or some shit like that right so
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: his family doesn't really like that she's on the show. Isn't that part of it? Kind of.
Steve: no Yeah, yeah.
Sammi: So they're, they're always like, things are a little stiff there. um so then she doesn't get a ton of airtime for that either, but she was like trying to get him to this friends giving party or whatever, you know, with the bake off.
Sammi: She's like, I just want to smooth things over so that we can go to friends giving. And it's like, God, I mean, if you're already just trying to smooth things over because like you're on a silly little TV show, I don't think this guy's the one for you anyway.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: maybe,
Steve: No.
Sammi: You know, two rat boys in a row. Let's let's let's move on.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: Let's do something else.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: Anyway. Yeah.
Steve: That guy sucks. Like, I don't know anything about him, but he like, and this is me.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: It's like, don't judge a book by its cover. Nope. Never reading that book. The cover has been judged.
Sammi: yeah
Steve: I don't like him.
Sammi: Well, and and just.
Steve: And then she's like, oh, I'm having trouble. Oh, he can't like sexually please me. What does he do? You don't like him. He's not attractive. He's not sexually satisfied. You what? Can he do anything? Can he cook? What does he do?
Sammi: Yeah, it's like she's beautiful and I think she could be way more fun than she's being right now on the show.
Steve: Oh, totally.
Sammi: Like there's there's so much more that she could do And like, yeah, I don't want a guy like that to hold her back. Come on.
Steve: No.
Sammi: No, you need someone. You need someone in your corner who's like, no, those women, they're wet blankets. Fuck them. Let's go have fun.
Steve: Yeah. I think she should bang Marciano from Vanderpump Villa.
Sammi: And yeah.
Steve: That's the only solution.
Sammi: Oh, okay. Okay. Well, there you go. Then Demi would be like off the out off the hot seat, right?
Steve: That's...
Steve: Yeah, exactly.
Sammi: So that would be in her best interest. Maybe she would also endorse that.
Steve: And Jesse, too. We just gotta pass the the the hot potato that is Marciano.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: The Jack's tailor of Europe.
Sammi: Yeah, what is going on there? Also, like, okay, this was something that, like, they glossed over way too quickly at the end of episode five when Jesse was like, well, yeah, like, it sounded like Jesse was like, well, yeah, i was also swinging, kind of.
Sammi: But anyway, and I was like, wait, what?
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: Did you catch that?
Steve: Yes, it was weird.
Sammi: I was very confused by that.
Steve: And I didn't know it was like, you know, oh, me too-ism. Like, i I also would like to be, you know, in this conversation for relevance sake. It's strange. That was odd.
Sammi: Yeah, it was really weird. And then there's still like that.
Steve: Also, ladies, if you're going to cheat on your husband, don't do it with Marciano from Vanderpump Villa. That's a terrible choice. Anybody else? Well, maybe not Jax Taylor either, but anybody else other than those two.
Sammi: Okay. Yeah. Anybody else? Anybody else than than those two?
Steve: you Have you watched any Vanderpump Villa?
Sammi: No, I need to because we've talked about it. I've been really behind on the Bravoverse in general. And I was just watching the last episode of um Black Mirror um that they did, you know, with the USS, what should I call it?
Sammi: I'm talking about. Oh, my God.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: USS Callister. Yeah. I was like, I was going to say USS Callister. And then I was like, is that right or wrong? um So yeah, the, like the last episode of the most recent season, we just watched it. We were kind of behind on black mirror.
Sammi: And in that episode, there's just not a spoiler. um The characters are watching the real housewives of Atlanta. And I was like, man, I haven't watched any real housewives, anything in a really long time. Like I have not watched anything Bravo in like at least a year, which is unlike me, but I've, I kind of got fatigued with it all.
Sammi: So I'm behind, I'm behind on the Bravo verse. I gotta, I gotta jump back in.
Sammi: Um, but I will say that I had, I, uh, was in a class and, uh, one of my professors asked me about my setup and said, so do you, so do you do anything?
Steve: Oh, or streaming and
Sammi: I said, well, I have a podcast. Um, If you're listening, if you are watching this, hello.
Steve: Hello, how are you? That's right.
Sammi: And he goes, oh cool. And then one of my classmates was like, I need to know what it's about. And I was like, it's about The Bachelor and other things, I guess.
Steve: Yeah. There's like...
Sammi: and And they're like, oh, that's no.
Steve: good
Sammi: They're like, that's great. And I was like, this is very odd. And I will tell you what the subject is after after the recording. I'm not going to say it on the recording. But I will say it was just very funny. I was like, I just never envisioned this would happen to me to be talking to someone who does this kind of work about this thing. But yeah he was very excited about it. He was like, that's really cool. i Do you enjoy it?
Sammi: And do you find that you bring your academic work into it? And I said, well, it's funny.
Steve: You do indeed.
Sammi: said it's really funny because I was just ranting about beef tallow the other day.
Sammi: And he was like, oh, that's great.
Steve: Very on brand.
Sammi: He's like, that's great. That's great. I said, yes, I do. it's It is interesting where there there are these intersections. um But yeah, and anyway, yeah, I was like very confused by the whole Jesse talking about swinging at the very end.
Sammi: And then I was like, wait, we moved on way too quickly. Yeah, it is.
Steve: Oh gosh. And then like the weird cliffhanger that the series ends on too. And you're just like, or not the series ends up the season ends on.
Sammi: Oh, I haven't seen it yet.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: I'm still I'm still working my way through.
Steve: Oh, okay.
Sammi: I'm on episode seven. um
Steve: and
Sammi: Sorry, everybody. I see I'm really behind. I have this thing called a life. No, i'm just kidding. That's a joke.
Steve: Okay.
Sammi: That's a joke. um No, but grad school does eat up all of your time to that. You want to watch silly little TV shows. And I decided to do it like well extra times, extra times, unnecessary amounts of times.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: Um, yeah. Okay. I'm on Wikipedia and it does say it's on here. It says like Jesse admits to swinging in her previous relationship. It's the last sentence of episode five. Like, that's what I'm saying. I was just like, huh?
Sammi: Oh, anyway.
Steve: you
Sammi: And now we're onto the next thing. And that's the, my, like, that's one of my biggest qualms with the show is it's like, don't be a hypocrite. You know, it's like the women that are the most fun to watch are the ones that are just like, yeah.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: So yeah. Okay.
Steve: Well, and Jessie's the one she's she's always tried to establish herself as the bad girl, too. Like she was the one like drinking in the hot tub and, you know, things like that.
Sammi: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Steve: Yeah, I think it was just weird the way that she just sort of nonchalantly said it because it was almost like a little kid, you know, when a kid's like, my dad's a fireman.
Sammi: yeah
Steve: And the little kid's like, oh, yeah, my dad's a fireman, too. And he works at Nintendo like. No, he doesn't shut up.
Sammi: Yeah, I don't know.
Steve: This is strange.
Sammi: i Yeah, it was just kind of odd because I was like, well, then why? i And that's why I think Jessie also has the potential to be more fun. I do think she is more interesting than she's being right now.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: um
Steve: I'm very interested in Jessie. I think she...
Sammi: I want to know more about her. And I just feel like she is good at stirring the pot. But yeah, it's like just own the stuff and don't judge these other women. If you're the bad girl,
Steve: Also, i feel like out of all the girls, if Jessie went out and had drinks with us, she'd tell us all kinds of crazy shit.
Sammi: Oh, yeah. She would definitely spill. That would be fun.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: yeah Well, because, like you know, she's she's a stylist.
Steve: Yeah, hairstylists love to gossip.
Sammi: She likes the gossip, you know?
Steve: Yeah, they love it.
Sammi: Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited because I'm getting my hair done tomorrow and my nails done the next day.
Steve: Do you get to gossip?
Sammi: oh my gosh. Oh, yeah. We just everything. Everything. We just go back and forth. It's the most fun thing ever. It's like between that and getting tattoos, it's like, oh, I just love gossip.
Sammi: Sometimes I just go get a tattoo just so I can gossip.
Steve: This girl loves to yap.
Sammi: OK, just so I can talk shit.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: It's awesome.
Sammi: Yeah. And it's like, OK, what did we miss? Let's catch up on everything. OK, what's happening with so-and-so and this thing? And oh, my gosh. um So, yeah, Jessie would definitely spill everything. Taylor would, too. And then she'd be like, oh, I probably shouldn't have said that.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: oh um And Jessie would be like, yeah, well, I stir the pot. So that's what I do. OK, let's see. Yeah. So Scottsdale pickleball. Oh, this is a good time to grab another piece of something.
Sammi: And what's what would a trad wife be um or, you know, ah an Airbnb pickleball place without some double weave dish towels?
Steve: Ooh.
Sammi: ah
Steve: Wow. A double weave. No single weave for this girl.
Sammi: sir
Steve: What's that color?
Sammi: i Do you know what a double weave is? Because I do.
Steve: No, I have no idea. Of course you do.
Sammi: OK.
Steve: Because you have a loom in your basement.
Sammi: Wait, what did you just say?
Steve: You have a loom in your basement, don't you?
Sammi: It's not in my basement.
Steve: or
Sammi: Okay.
Steve: Where is it?
Sammi: We need to be very exact about it.
Steve: It's front and center in your living room.
Sammi: I have a loom. i have a loom room and it is like basically in the entrance of our house.
Steve: loom? A loom?
Sammi: ah Yeah, I have a la room. i have a i have a room for my 36-inch floor loom, okay? It is prominently displayed in my house and currently has a double weave project on it.
Steve: Women be looming.
Sammi: So we're going to learn a little something about weaving today, friends.
Steve: Wow.
Sammi: um So a double weave is basically when you have... a project that you're working on both sides of the loom.
Steve: and Okay.
Sammi: And so that what it might mean is for a double weave, you could have it where you're making something that's twice as wide as the loom and you are basically sewing, sewing, you're weaving the the side, like one side together and then the other side is open so that you can have it so that it's twice as wide as what you're doing and you're doing a different thing on the top and the bottom.
Steve: Okay.
Sammi: So you can have it like the colors are different, whatever.
Steve: ah
Sammi: You can also do it where they're both together and it's twice as thick. and then And then it's kind of like a tube in the middle.
Steve: That's what I thought that That's what I thought it was
Sammi: And then um one color, like you're doing like one type of pattern on the top and one type of pattern on the bottom. And that's actually the setup that I have right now.
Steve: and Okay That's that's wonderful i just I just assumed it was double thick And then I was like Why don't why don't you just fold it over
Sammi: um But you can set up your loom in either way so that you have it do both. That's what double weaving is.
Sammi: Well, so, but yeah, so this one, let's see. I don't know. I can't really tell why it would be called double weave, except the top and the bottom are different. So like this is like lighter and this is darker.
Steve: No. Well, there you go. Oh.
Sammi: So I would assume that that's why it's a double weave. um Yeah. So that's what, so now you learned something about weaving today.
Steve: What's that color? Is that a taupe? What do we got here?
Sammi: it says it's a dove gray. I would agree that it's a dove gray.
Steve: Dover. Okay.
Sammi: Yeah. Yeah.
Sammi: Oh, I've also been getting really into ah typewriters and I'm ah considering learning how to fix them up. I'm working on that.
Steve: oh Oh.
Sammi: So I picked up some crappy ones that can use a little cleaning.
Steve: ah Of course. god Thank God you have a new hobby, you boring person with too much time on your hands.
Sammi: I got really ranty the other day and I was like, I was like downstairs and i was like, all I want to do is I want to cook and weave and bake and can and garden and fix typewriters and be in a fire lookout and and do academic work and and paint and crochet.
Steve: just want to do everything all the time.
Sammi: That's all I want to do. That's all I want to do. That's all I want to do. And Tuck just looked at me and said, that's like, basically everything you just said is like why I love you. was like, thank you.
Steve: doing 9 million things at once.
Sammi: He's like, because you do all of those things. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, ah yeah, I got really ranty about it the other day, which was interesting. um OK, let's see.
Sammi: ah that that that ah Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. Like Whitney is a villain. We've established this. But she is also, I think, not the bad.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: Sometimes maybe she's a bad friend, but I don't think she's as bad of a friend as Michaela makes her out to be.
Steve: Yeah, yeah.
Sammi: Because here's the thing. Yeah, Jen is one of the people on the outs. And Jen didn't do anything to become a person on the outs. It's not like Whitney. Whitney actively antagonized people.
Sammi: and has every And was like, well, I am exiting my, so you know, I'm removing myself from this group. And then she's like, well, can I come back? You know what i mean? It's like, you left the group chat, man.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: Like, I don't know.
Steve: I know. it's like who
Sammi: Like nobody made you leave. You were the one who was like, I'm leaving. So, but Jen is just like existing. And I think telling the truth and they're like, well, she's a liar. And now she's a faker and you know, whatever.
Sammi: But Whitney's like, fuck that. I'm going to go take care of Jen. Oh God. Sorry. I just like knocked over some Tylenol.
Steve: yeah Good work.
Sammi: She's like, I'm going to, I'm going to go comfort Jen.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And You know, I think that that's something that a good friend would do. And it doesn't necessarily I mean, I guess you could argue that she might think it would make her look better on TV, but I don't really think that that's why she's doing it. It does. It doesn't read that way to me.
Sammi: I think she was like, yeah, I've been there. I've been there. I've been the not the most popular person in the group. And people have been mad at me and they're still kind of mad at me. And that's not a fun feeling. And when you're feeling really down on top of that, that's just got to suck.
Sammi: Yeah. You know, and i get here's the thing, though.
Steve: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: There are people who do care about her. and I still I think Zach is positioning his um concern for Jen in an interesting way. Right. Because he's like, well, if you're feeling this way because of these women, I don't think it's a good idea to hang out with him with them.
Sammi: Like true. But I also think she gets that feeling from other people
Steve: yeah
Sammi: just saying don't think it's just from these women and i do think that there are women in this group that she feels really good around and they were the ones that you know she's been hanging around so i i think to lump them all together as like they're all a bad influence is just another way for him to push his i didn't like that you went to chippendale's agenda so that's my theory
Steve: Yeah. So sad little insecure man with bad hair.
Sammi: um
Steve: And that's unforgivable.
Sammi: Wow.
Sammi: And that's unforgivable. Okay. All right. So yeah, I got to make sure I do my hair good when I go get it done tomorrow.
Steve: Yeah, exactly.
Sammi: um
Steve: Otherwise, nothing but judgment from me.
Sammi: Oh, Jesus. Okay.
Steve: going throw you in the Zach pile.
Sammi: Okay. Okay. Well, we're going to about it because I am thinking about going lighter, but it will be vivid.
Steve: um
Sammi: It won't be, um you know,
Steve: Okay.
Steve: On brand.
Sammi: Well, it won't be like, you know, it won't be like weird eugenic stuff. um Anyway.
Sammi: It won't be like, it won't be like real blonde.
Steve: It's good. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: You know what I'm saying?
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: um did didda I'm trying to think if there's any other thing. Yeah. Okay. So this is the thing. Like, do you think that there's any truth to the Demi rumors? And like, and also here's the thing.
Sammi: There's rumors about her and there's rumors about her husband. Right.
Steve: Yeah. Oh, and they're, yeah, that they're both cheating basically.
Sammi: ah
Steve: And her thing is just like, no, it's impossible.
Sammi: Isn't that weird?
Steve: We've only been away from each other for two nights and our whole marriage or something like that. like, what the fuck?
Sammi: That's also weird because it's like if you're counting like that, I don't know.
Steve: That's weird too.
Steve: Yeah, no, no, that's, that's the thing is like on its face.
Sammi: That seems very controlling. Yeah.
Steve: I'm like, oh, they're probably just rumors. But then every time she talks about I'm like, no, it's real.
Sammi: Yeah, i that's what... It's like, yeah, they both doth protest too much.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And then she's like, okay, so when they're in that like specialty baking thing, and then it was like afterwards that like the cameras were off, but the mics were on, right?
Steve: Yeah, yeah.
Sammi: And she's like... I mean, I agree with her. She's like, I don't know. yeah Here's the weird, I don't know. I feel like there's like weird projection. There's a deflection. There's insecurity.
Sammi: There's a lot of stuff going on, right? Because she says something to him to the extent of like, well, if it was me, like I know my truth.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: I wouldn't be acting like that. Although she kind of has with the women more than with him.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: And she's like, I wouldn't deny it that much. I'm like, hmm. I don't know. and then she's.
Steve: Again, weird thing to say. Why are you saying that?
Sammi: Yeah. And then she's like, well, and the fact that you are just makes it sound more guilty. And then she and then she kind of like shrugged it off, though, too, with the women, because she said something like, well, if it's going to come out, it's going to come out. Right.
Sammi: so I'll know eventually. I'm like. But what?
Steve: Yeah, it's...
Sammi: You don't want to know? Like it that was kind of weird, too.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: i don't know. That was kind of strange.
Steve: It's so, so strange.
Sammi: Mm hmm.
Steve: Like, I don't understand.
Sammi: Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know how I would react if I heard something like that. But I don't think I would react like that.
Steve: Yeah, not at all. No.
Sammi: Like, I wouldn't be like, if I was in this situation, like, I wouldn't be like pulling together hypotheticals. I would just be like, so is it true or not?
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: I need to know because like, otherwise, you yeah hit the bricks, you know, I don't know.
Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Sammi: or Or I'd just be like, I'm not, I don't know. It's just weird. It kind of feels like the Kyle and Mauricio stuff from way back in the day.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: That's kind of like the the way the rumors it's giving.
Steve: Oh, totally. And that stuff was weird, too, because it it just seemed because at first it was just like people yelling. It's like, well, your husband, he does this. He goes to Europe and he did he you know, he does this and that and he porks people and all this stuff.
Steve: And then you're like, oh, this is just this is just drunk women yelling. Right. Like this is just Dorit had too many cocktails.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: Oh, no. ah But now it's like, you know, then once they finally separate, you're like,
Sammi: yeah oh
Steve: I don't know. It seems like maybe there is something to the rumors, but then you don't even know that at that point, it's just the way that they deal with it. And there's no right or wrong way to deal with something, but I can't help but kind of cock my head to the side with someone just acts weird as shit.
Sammi: The vibes are just off, right? Like, listen, I'm not Alison Dubois, but like, if I was, you know, that's really nice.
Steve: Yeah. Yeah.
Steve: Which you absolutely could be if you wanted to be.
Sammi: Yeah.
Sammi: I just wonder, I'm like, she must be like, her career must be booming these days if she wants it to be. I mean, she was the original inspiration for the show medium. So what else do you need?
Steve: yeah
Sammi: Right. But you know, like it will live in my mind forever. The, he will never emotionally fulfill you. Know that. Like I will, I will never get over that. But she was like, so right. Or like, remember that one psychic that said something about Ramona?
Steve: yeah oh yeah
Sammi: Remember that? Yeah. So weird. And it's like, these are things that seem very solid, right? And then you look back and you're like, yeah, it probably wasn't that solid. They were probably just like really good at keeping up appearances.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: I'm not saying that that's what's happening here, but I'm just saying these are things that reminds me of the thing that's in front of me right now. But the other thing that's in front of me right now are two ah lip lip treatment kits.
Steve: What do we got?
Sammi: And I'm actually really excited about these scents.
Steve: Treatment. What do they do?
Sammi: Yeah. Well, one is a lip exfoliator and the other one is a hydrating lip mask, which I use a hydrating lip mask literally every night. um So this one is, well, we'll see.
Steve: But is Jilly's better? It's more Canadian.
Sammi: This one's vanilla scented. Three ships. And then this one is buttercream scented. <unk>
Steve: Oh, see, that sounds really good. I would just, I just want to eat it.
Sammi: i know.
Steve: I've heard that from estheticians before that like there's certain things they smell really good and then people just like like lick their face like don't do that.
Sammi: i know. Oh, gosh.
Steve: That's like yeah.
Sammi: Oh, that's bad. Yeah.
Steve: You
Sammi: Oh, the vanilla lip exfoliator smells really good. Yeah, I got to keep these away from Tuck because otherwise he will try to eat them.
Steve: want to eat it? Ooh.
Sammi: We just I just gave him like or I were like out of hand soap, but we had like one like novelty hand soap dispenser that was like hiding it out and it's donut shaped.
Steve: o
Sammi: And I got it from Joanne's.
Steve: R.I.P.
Sammi: May they rest in peace. And um yeah, R.I.P.
Steve: ip
Sammi: Joanne's. And I was like, yeah, I've been saving it. So I'll take it out for now. We got to buy some new hand soap. And it's vanilla scented. And he was like, oh, my God, that smells so good. I want to taste it. I was like, it's soap.
Sammi: It's soap. don't Don't eat it. um Yeah. I don't know if I have much else to say. I don't have anything to say about the pickleball, anything except for I do think it was funny that as they were heading to Scottsdale, Whitney tried to get on the pole and they were like, you will rip and bleed, girl.
Sammi: You better stop.
Steve: a
Sammi: But I thought it was fun. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, Whitney is fun TV because she will like kind of go for anything and and in a way that I very much enjoy.
Steve: he
Sammi: and ah But yeah, I don't have a lot to say about about this episode except for, yeah, like all of the rumors and stuff. um And I just feel like, yeah.
Steve: Sure. Well, even this whole trip feels anticlimactic to me. Like, nothing really happens.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: They just kind of like...
Sammi: They're like, we got here. Yeah.
Steve: Yeah, until...
Sammi: And then all of a sudden we're back home and there's a car wash. Oh, yeah. I guess I was talking about the bake off and that's episode seven. Shit. I forgot about that.
Steve: I don't know.
Sammi: Oh, no.
Steve: Yeah. The big off, the big off is great.
Sammi: Well, we'll talk about we talk about a little bit more or less next week or whatever.
Steve: But when, when they're like, so like standing around, they're like, let's play piss roulette and, and see who has a baby.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: And we're all going to like mix up our pregnancy tests.
Sammi: Wait, did I miss did I miss that one?
Steve: That's, I don't know. Maybe that's episode eight, but this is, this is like when they're on their little girly girl vacation.
Sammi: Oh, maybe that's. a oh yeah. that I think that's episode eight.
Steve: Yeah. It's you'll see.
Sammi: Oh, that's so funny. Okay, great.
Steve: Just wait for piss roulette. Yeah.
Sammi: Oh, geez, Louise. Yeah, yeah, I'm still I'm still on episode seven. I forgot that that was um ah the. Yeah, damn. Sorry about it.
Steve: It's okay. All the juicy stuff is coming.
Sammi: Sorry about skipping all the episodes.
Steve: You're in all these like transition episodes.
Sammi: Well, we'll we'll talk about ah yeah we'll talk about one second of episode seven, and then we'll go back into it. um I also got a mud mask from the brand Mud Masky. um And it is a vitamin infused eye serum. Oh, it's an eye serum.
Steve: So you're cooking and doing self-care simultaneously.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: That's so trad wife of you.
Sammi: I know. That's what I'm saying. Hello. I think it's all about like restoring. We'll have to see. I haven't really seen. know Oh, and there were some things that were supposed to come in this that I was not allowed to get.
Steve: Oh, because America.
Sammi: because of customs. So they got returned. Which is But there's a lot of stuff in here, actually. oh Ooh, a plug-in wall diffuser. It's funny because I have like ah one of those melt things, like those wax melt things, but I can't put them anywhere in the house that like Apollo, our little one, will want to eat it.
Sammi: like Walter doesn't care, but Apollo would be like, this is food, and and would eat the wax.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: Speaking of eating things that smell good, but this is like a very sleek wall diffuser.
Steve: Ooh.
Sammi: Very fancy looking.
Steve: Very fancy.
Sammi: And the scent is vanilla. We are like a house that has like a lot of vanilla scented things because that's something my husband really likes is vanilla smelling things.
Sammi: This is cool.
Steve: That's why he's going to eat all of your lip balm that you just got.
Sammi: that's what I'm saying i have to keep it away from him because he's like that's his favorite yeah this is kind of nice like it's not it's not it's just like very slick very sleek and then you just put up to 500 hours of scent holy shit holy shit balls vanilla mint okay um that's cool so it's just like a cartridge or something oh it's like a dropper
Steve: Whoa, that's a lot stinking.
Sammi: Oh, okay. So, yeah, it's just like ah it's just like an oil diffuser. You just, I would assume, put it in the top and then you plug it in. And you get vanilla mint scented goodness.
Steve: There you go.
Sammi: That sounds nice. I'm excited about that.
Steve: Not too bad.
Sammi: i like I like good smells. Thanks, Jelly, for all the vanilla.
Steve: Did Jilly include anything to get rid of the fruit flies in my house?
Sammi: Jelly, vanilla. Well, I mean, maybe you just need to wash your your dishes better. I'm kidding.
Steve: I have a dishwasher. I don't. I'm a clean person.
Sammi: I'm just kidding. I knew that was going to bug you.
Steve: I know, but the internet doesn't know this. they They think they go, oh, yeah, there's a look at this guy. He's definitely a slob.
Sammi: Look at this schlub.
Steve: Oh, yeah.
Sammi: Yeah. No, I bet my house is messier than yours right now.
Steve: Uh-huh.
Steve: I see you judging me, Internet, and let me tell you, i have a meticulously beautiful, clean kitchen.
Sammi: It's fine.
Steve: Well, I mean, it's not like that. It's it's clean. it's not there's no There's no food. There's no fruit laying around.
Sammi: No, yeah. We also wash our dishes.
Steve: no And yet the fruit flies continue.
Sammi: No, we didn't have... i we I saw like one or two like yesterday and that's because I just brought in a bunch of tomatoes and I made sauce. I made sauce today.
Sammi: made a bunch of tomato sauce.
Steve: that's nice.
Sammi: Um, but then they like, they haven't been hanging around. I feel like we had a real big issue in our old house. Um, and I don't know if it's just kind old house and there was like open when like, you know, little cracks in the windows where they could get in or something like that.
Sammi: But in our new house, we haven't had that many issues. I don't know why, but I'm sorry. You're going through that.
Steve: okay. I'm just mad at bugs.
Sammi: I'm sorry that happened to you.
Steve: i did like I went down the rabbit hole of like trying to find different things that I haven't thought of yet to try and fix the problem. And the best one was some person was just like, I don't know. I had a bunch and I couldn't get rid of them.
Steve: So I just chased them around my shop vac and I sucked them up every time I saw them. And then they went away. It's like...
Sammi: you You could get that um racket that Kathy had.
Steve: Oh, yeah. Or she just smacks the bugs.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: That's a good idea.
Sammi: huh
Steve: like that.
Sammi: Speaking of, look at this. I have one of these already, actually, from Jilly.
Steve: Oh.
Sammi: um And I use it all the time.
Steve: Is that a heart in the middle of the spoon?
Sammi: So now I have another one. Yeah. Isn't that cute? Just a cute little wooden spoon.
Steve: That is cute.
Sammi: Yeah, i use I use the one that I have all the time. Now I have a second one. Yeah.
Steve: How do you feel about the function of that with a hole in it?
Sammi: Well, it's fine.
Sammi: For the things that, but you know, like pasta. I use it for pasta.
Steve: Yeah, that's true. Okay, I'll give you that.
Sammi: Yeah. That's what I use it for. I don't know. Don't you have spoons with holes in them?
Steve: A heart-shaped spoon? No.
Sammi: Oh, I have like...
Steve: I mean, I have a slotted spoon. I don't have a heart spoon.
Sammi: oh I have two now. If you want this one.
Steve: Wow. maybe that Yeah, i'm I'm going to come knocking on your door one day.
Sammi: If you want this so I still owe you that little house. I do have that little house for you.
Steve: How wild would it be if if literally just like on a random Wednesday, you just hear a knock at your door and you answer.
Sammi: can pack that for you.
Steve: It's like, it's me and I want my heart spoon.
Sammi: I would be fine with it.
Steve: No.
Sammi: Except, like I said, our house is definitely messier than yours.
Steve: yeah
Sammi: It's just stuff everywhere. It's clean.
Steve: Yeah, sure, sure.
Sammi: There's just like a lot of stuff.
Steve: That's fair.
Sammi: I'm trying to get rid of all the stuff.
Steve: You're a stuff lady.
Sammi: And then i' I'm bringing...
Steve: We know this about you.
Sammi: I'm not as much of a stuff lady as, as you know, Chuck is a stuff man.
Steve: Oh, yeah, he's a stuff lady, too.
Sammi: he is i am a I am a collection lady, but he is like a stuff man. That's difference. All my stuff is organized for the most part.
Steve: Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Sammi: I can organize it very quickly. His stuff is just, you're like, why do you have a poster of David Copperfield and a Windows 95 box?
Steve: Yeah. And he's got his big box full of cords for stuff and he doesn't know what cords go to. And most of it's like antiquated stuff like that.
Sammi: You know, yeah.
Steve: They don't even use anymore. Yeah.
Sammi: And he collects red sticks.
Steve: Oh, see?
Sammi: He has a collection of red sticks.
Steve: Yeah. Every red blooded American man has to have a big box full of cords that don't go to anything.
Sammi: Yes.
Steve: That's what, that's what you do.
Sammi: Yeah.
Steve: You inherit it from your father and then you pass it down to your children and your children's children.
Sammi: Yeah, exactly. We have, yeah, we have at least like two drawers full of cords that we don't know where they go. Although I do think he downsized at one point when we moved. Like, I do think he got rid of a lot of them, but they have come in handy.
Steve: Yeah, every once in a while.
Sammi: I won't even snark.
Steve: That's what you do.
Sammi: And now.
Steve: Like every three years, you're like, I need a very specific thing. And then you have it you're like, yeah, i don't have to buy this from Amazon.
Sammi: Yeah.
Sammi: And now I have, well, you know, it's funny. The one thing that we didn't have was like a bunch of those like, what do you call them? Like the media, ah like the the red, yellow, and white, you know, media, old, you know, in, out, whatever.
Sammi: Because what I'm trying to do right now is set up all of my consoles actually in this office. wonder if I can angle this all the way over there. Let's see. did it to today Sorry, there's so much stuff.
Sammi: You can't really see it. No, you can't see it at all. Oh, too bad. Sorry. I'll show you later.
Steve: Little peek behind the curtain.
Sammi: this is the map of the ice age trail though, right there, the ice age trail.
Steve: Oh, nice.
Sammi: um But um over there, there is over all of my monitors, so there is a TV and all of my video games. And I've started to set it up where all of my old consoles are there.
Sammi: And so I wanted to have something that like switch the media between the consoles.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And I was like, Oh, the one thing that I don't have enough of are these like media.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: core What are they called? I don't know what they're called. But you know what I'm talking about.
Steve: HDMI cords or AV cords or yeah, you're talking about the red, yellow, white one.
Sammi: No, like, you know, like in the olden days, like, you know, the ones. Yeah, and then and then the other side and the other side is like the um it's like the cord that would go in.
Steve: Yeah. Yeah. it's just an AV cord.
Sammi: It could work in a Super Nintendo and N64 or an NES.
Steve: Yeah. Composite. Yeah.
Sammi: I think they were all the same.
Steve: Nintendo composite cable.
Sammi: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Steve: Yep. Yep.
Sammi: So I had to buy three of those.
Steve: Wow. Okay.
Sammi: Well, I bought two, I bought three, but I only really need two.
Steve: Okay.
Sammi: But I was like, I better just get an extra just in case so that I can.
Steve: You never know.
Sammi: So I've got my not real NES that's refurbished that I'll use in HDMI. I've got my GameCube. I've got my N64 and my Super Nintendo Switch.
Sammi: And I've got them all hooked up to my TV and I got one of those like AV switchers, you know, that I can then I can like switch and just play whatever console I want, you know.
Steve: Mm.
Sammi: So um I didn't have enough cords for that, which was kind of surprising.
Steve: Nice.
Sammi: Like I thought I definitely have enough of these and I was surprised I had to buy them. And I'm glad you can get them for like three bucks a pop online, which was surprising to me.
Steve: Yeah,
Sammi: ah Anyway. Enough about me. Let's talk about Jilly. i got a big bag.
Steve: yeah you do
Sammi: I don't really know what it's good for. It's just an open bag for like shopping, I guess. um It's from Poppy and Peonies. I probably, don't know what I'll use this for.
Sammi: I've used a lot of the bags, like the Weekender bag. I use it literally all the time.
Steve: ah you can You can use that to smuggle goods from Canada to the United States.
Sammi: Yeah, I guess so.
Steve: you'd have to pay the tariff.
Sammi: um it But it is like a nice... I like totes sometimes that have like solid, you know...
Steve: little structure, yeah.
Sammi: Yes, a solid body. And it also does have little... You know what? This would be a great crafting bag. I will definitely...
Steve: Put your loom supplies in it.
Sammi: Yeah, I'll definitely use this for crochet projects. Because right now I have them in like metal baskets that don't really transfer well. I'm going to put my my blanket project that I'm working on in here. Okay, perfect.
Sammi: Done. Oh my god, there's more! Holy shit, Jilly. She was like, I'm going to make this one worth it. And I was like, okay, let's see.
Steve: but What did she give you?
Sammi: And like, there's like two or three more things in here.
Steve: Damn girl.
Sammi: I know. I was like, where' I don't have anything else to say about these episodes, especially because I started to dip into episode seven on accident. um Oh, I think there's just a t-shirt. It's like a boxy t-shirt.
Steve: Oh.
Sammi: Yeah. It's just a traditional white boxy tea that all get messy immediately.
Steve: Now it doesn't say i heart Jilly on it or anything.
Sammi: No, it's just white. so i It's just a white tea. I remember that she was like, we have a classic boxy tea and here's the sizing for it. Um, it's, I like it because it's made of thicker fabric. I really don't like t-shirts that are not, are made of like a thin fabric where the collar like falls all over the place.
Sammi: Drives me nuts. I buy a lot of like Madewell stuff because they're thicker and this has that same consistency. So very happy about that.
Sammi: There's a thing in here. I don't know what it came from. There's like, oh, this is for the, um, measuring cups.
Steve: Oh, oh was it's like a little metal ring.
Sammi: like a ring.
Steve: Yeah, yeah.
Sammi: Yeah. I was like, what the hell? What the hell is that? Okay, one more big thing.
Steve: Whoa.
Sammi: And it's a scalloped baking dish.
Steve: A scalloped baking dish?
Sammi: Yes.
Steve: Whoa. Damn, Jilly.
Sammi: That's nice. I love a baking dish. Oh.
Steve: That's very fancy.
Sammi: I know. um Hold on one second. Do I need? Oh, here. I'm not using a knife. Don't worry about it, everybody.
Steve: going to get us banned from every streaming platform.
Sammi: It's okay. Just an EDC. It's no big deal.
Steve: It's ah it's a sharp spoon.
Sammi: There's a lot of stuff in this box for the, the fact that I, that two things got returned is kind of surprising with everything that's in here. Okay. This basically says, I love Julie Emmett because it says the secret ingredient is always love.
Sammi: This is cute.
Steve: Wow.
Sammi: It's nice.
Steve: That is nice. Thank you, Chili.
Sammi: I bake a lot friends. Um,
Steve: and Do you have any scalloped baking dishes?
Sammi: yeah I have a scalloped pie dish, but I don't have a scalloped baking dish, so these will go well together.
Steve: There you go.
Sammi: um
Sammi: i'll tell you I'll tell you a secret off stream, and then I'll reveal it in November. um So something to look forward to, friends. You won't get to hear the secret until November.
Steve: Okay.
Sammi: So let's find out what the theme was, because I thought it was like kitchen-y stuff, but now let's see what she says. um It's all about
Steve: Yeah, I'm...
Sammi: Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
Steve: No, I really thought it seemed like we were going towards like a baking kitchen theme, but then the the lip stuff throws me off, so...
Sammi: Although everything was like vanilla themed. So it was still kind of like gourmand, right?
Steve: Mm-hmm, yeah.
Sammi: It's all about savoring the warmth and the memories of summer. It's when we can pick the last of berries and fruit from our farm. I just picked all these tomatoes today. Um, can them with love and of course sugar and fill our kitchen with a scent of homemade pies.
Sammi: That's exactly what this box's theme is. A love letter to those nostalgic, joy-filled moments spent in the kitchen with your favorite people. The mixing bowls are out. There's flour on the counter. Fruit stained aprons are on. Music is playing and laughter is echoing through the house.
Sammi: The season's box is packed with thoughtful treasures that celebrate the beauty of late summer.
Steve: Wow.
Sammi: From vintage-inspired kitchen finds to products perfect for your self-care evenings, every item has been chosen with so much care. All wrapped up in a palette of burnt orange, sunflower yellow, soft pinks, and warm browns that fill your heart with nostalgia.
Steve: o
Sammi: I hope this box inspires you to pull out those old recipe cards. Oh, oh, so interesting that you say that.
Steve: She says that she pulls out her grandma's old recipes card.
Sammi: here's Here's an old recipe card from the 30s from my university.
Steve: Oh my god.
Sammi: yep This is something that home economists would learn how to make in school in the kitchens. ah Basically where I'm teaching.
Sammi: Anyway. every item okay I hope this box inspires you to pull out those old recipe cards. Cook something delicious or order takeout. And have a dance party in your kitchen. XO Jillian.
Steve: o
Sammi: Thanks, Jelly. Oh, I'm so sad.
Steve: Thanks, silly.
Sammi: It's the last Jelly Box.
Steve: Gone but not forgotten.
Sammi: Oh, my gosh. I hope we get another one. Oh, she's got a recipe ah recipe ah for apple crisp in here.
Steve: ah
Steve: Man, i just I just want to, but we can't do it because we get hit with a copyright thing, but I just want to blast the Aerosmith song from Armageddon. I don't want to miss a thing because that's how i feel about Jilly right now.
Sammi: Just sing like a few seconds of it.
Steve: uh i don't what is it i don't want to close my eyes i don't want to fall asleep because i miss you jilly and i don't want to miss a thing because the tariffs thank you
Sammi: If that doesn't get clipped, I don't know what will. Holy crap. That was good.
Steve: that's that's what happens what look at what's been taken from us
Sammi: um Yeah. So there's... Yeah. There are certain things that got pulled and I'm trying to see what they are. i think um maybe an everything bagel topper got pulled.
Steve: um
Sammi: um There was like an everything bagel like, you know, yeah, because I don't think that was an add on.
Steve: Like a shaky. Yeah.
Sammi: So that definitely did not get sent to me. Rude. um Let's see what else. Yeah, that wasn't an add on.
Steve: yeah How you going to get your poppy seeds and dried garlic now?
Sammi: And.
Sammi: I know. That's what I'm saying. Although I don't eat that stuff.
Steve: Tastes better in Canada.
Sammi: So it's fine. um There was a ceramic dish that got pulled. Oh, that was an add on. Just kidding. um Yeah. The add ons this time, there was like this very fancy Greek pepper mill that was 109 Canadian.
Sammi: And I went, I cannot rationalize that, but it is gorgeous.
Steve: Is it like the big one from Olive Garden? good
Sammi: It's like, it's like the big gold one, you know, like, let me show you if you can see that.
Steve: Oh, yeah, yeah. I love ah i love a pepper mill that's like four feet tall.
Sammi: These are so fancy. Yeah, I just love them. I'm like, there's no way. It's so pretty, though. um Yeah, there was like a really nice little ceramic dish. And you all know now that I'm a slut for little bowls, but i it wasn't really exactly what I wanted. So I didn't get it.
Sammi: um
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Sammi: And then, yeah, I ordered like the extra virgin olive oil and they said, nope, you can't have that.
Steve: Nope.
Sammi: We're going refund it.
Steve: None of that for you.
Sammi: And I said, okay. And then there was like a cardigan I did not order. um wasn't feeling it. And then there was like a knife set. um So yeah, there were certain things that i just ended up not getting.
Sammi: And then, yeah, the chickpeas. Was that the ones that made the topping? I guess so. Check piece.
Sammi: Yeah. So it's a zero waste refillery place that makes this topping. And they were the ones who were featured in the Jilly box this season. But i couldn't even get any of their stuff.
Sammi: Thanks, tariffs. So that sucks. um And then, yeah, that was. Yeah. So it was all about the refillery and about making apple crisp, which i will.
Sammi: I will make apple crisp jelly. That's for damn sure. Yeah, basically, yeah, it says, oh, that's why I got the wooden spoon. They replaced the bagel topper with the wooden spoon because I was like, I already got this.
Steve: Oh, it was just like in the chili warehouse.
Sammi: and This came in a past jelly box. I was kind of surprised. Yeah, i was like, well, we're going to give you the spoon because it's worth about the same amount of money. That's fair.
Steve: Yeah, that's good.
Sammi: They're like, you get a second spoon to give to your co-host because he deserves a spoon too.
Steve: Yeah, I deserve Love Spoon.
Sammi: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. um Okay, well then next time, I don't know how many episodes we'll cover. Maybe all of them. No, maybe seven, eight, nine because then there is 11 episodes, right?
Sammi: Because there's a reunion.
Steve: Yeah.
Sammi: So we could do that. Um, so until then, friends, probably next week, um, you know, why don't you get cozy and make yourself something delicious and something that warms your soul? Maybe, maybe pull out an old recipe.
Steve: Yeah, and don't do needle drugs. as It doesn't warm your soul. It chills it out when that spike hits your vein.
Steve: What other Aerosmith songs can I sing?
Sammi: I don't know.
Steve: Love in an elevator, but you know what I don't love in an elevator? Tariffs.
Sammi: even when I dream of you, the sweetest dream will never do.
Steve: Yeah, the sweetest dream I'd ever do.
