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The Buzz Lightyear POD Draft, Nutbush City Limits, and Wet Sails | Round 15 AFL Fantasy #PODPOD
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We're through the byes but there are still EIGHT WEEKS to go! Dos, Lewy, Holmesy, and Harmey decide it's time to find the diamonds in the rough to win you the Lux, a hat, or maybe just some pride — in The Buzz Lightyear Draft!
Plus, the lads cover all the hot topics including Elliot Yeo's injury, Harry Himmelberg's legitimacy, Callum Mills' juicy pricetag, and Brayden Fiorini's GOATdem. Harmey also reveals his disdain for the Nut Bush...
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Panel
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you
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Speaker
welcome to the pod pod. It's ya boi Dossi here talking all things AFL fantasy on this Wednesday night, June 18th. Oh, June 28th. That is 2023. Glad it's not June 18th because we are out of the bars now and I'm joined by my
00:00:35
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co-host, the Pod Pod OG, Louis, along with our duo of two-time top 10 finishers, John Harmy and Kyle Holmes. And we're going to be here with you for the run home in AFL fantasy. Whether you're going for that lux, a hat, or maybe just some pride, we've got you covered.
Managing Extra Buy Rounds
00:00:52
Speaker
Let's talk about the round that was the final round of the buys. Finally, Louis, we've hit the light at the end of the tunnel.
00:01:00
Speaker
Finally mate, I know it's probably been a little bit easier than previous years but at the same time I think it did throw a spanner in the works just having to manage just that extra buy around that we weren't used to in previous years. But we're at the back end now and I think most teams should be looking at not a completed side but a team that looks a whole lot better than what they went into the buyers with and it's now time to start making those little adjustments to really sail home and improve your ranking.
Reintegrating Players & Injury Navigation
00:01:30
Speaker
How good did it feel to bring back on those players that were in that round 15 by their army? You enjoying a full squad now? Absolutely. And when I put them all back into play, so I was just hoping that I hadn't stuffed up and had too many defenders or forwards or something like that. So no, it all came together. Okay, mate. Thanks. And feeling good yourself there. Holmes is well ready to attack this last bit of the AFL fantasy season. And well, you're probably looking forward to 2024 already, aren't you?
00:01:56
Speaker
Nah mate, looking alright. I was excited to bring everyone back on and potentially complete the side this week and Elliot Yeo decides to hurt his hip, which means it's going to be a sideways trade and who knows where we'll end up this week.
Critical Trades and Player Acquisitions
00:02:10
Speaker
So you're never up for too long in fantasy. But nah, it's not too bad. We knew the risk taking him on, so it just is what it is. It's kind of cool though, isn't it? It's like another curveball for the season for us to mix it up.
00:02:23
Speaker
It's like a reset back to the pre-season when we all started panicking pre-round one. And Dossie, you said it's on the home stretch, but it's hard to believe that just a fortnight ago, we're only halfway through. So, you know, it's around 16 we're coming into, but obviously we got around 24 this year with the gather around. So it should be an interesting next two months.
00:02:45
Speaker
Can't bloody wait mate, I can't bloody wait. I mean, that's so funny though, considering our teams. I mean, many of our teams are already getting close to, you know, in brackets, in quotation marks, complete. So I guess the next few trades or these next kind of few weeks of our trades are going to be really critical to getting those final big dogs for these next couple
Round Recap & Performance Highlights
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Speaker
of months. Looking forward to every moment, but let's recap the round that was first and go back to that final bar round. And I want to hear how you went first, Louis.
00:03:16
Speaker
Yeah, not too bad. I thought I was really going well. And then there were some teams that just absolutely sailed home with some big scores in that last game. But I scored a 2044, which is some pretty cool territory to be in when you're considering that it's just a top 18 for the scoring, which brought me into rank 3618. So looking at about a 3000 improvement over the buys or thereabouts.
00:03:46
Speaker
I'm sure Hami will keep track of that as well because we're quite close together but now I'm pretty happy with the buy arounds overall. No, that's an awesome rise and I've seen you having, I mean this is probably unfortunately one of your lower rank, one of your lower scores when you're actually being able to come on the pod. We've been relaying your scores when you haven't been on here and they've been some monster scores for the round. So yeah, good effort across the buys. Lou, have you been tracking those scores? Hami, and how was your final week of the buys?
00:04:12
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, Louise just put six hundred ranking points on me over the buy. So he's done bloody well there. My week wasn't too bad. I came up with a score of two zero seven one. So how do you there look? Which brought me in about seven hundred positions. So I'm sitting at four two four three at the moment. So I think I must have gone up about two and a half thousand positions, I think, over the course of the four for by weeks.
00:04:42
Speaker
So, Louis, you must have been about 3,000 up, I reckon, based on that. And finally, Homsey. How was your buy-around planning this year? Did you do your usual jump during the buys?
00:04:55
Speaker
Yeah, capped off pretty well, Dossie. And to be honest, I made some pretty shocking trades throughout the buys as well. Not shocking, but probably not the ones I should have made, but had a 21.07 this week. That actually brought me up another 1,800 spots into 6,416, which is pretty good considering I started the buy rounds at 13.2. So I've halved my rank, things moving in the right direction, and fingers crossed I can keep going. But yeah, there's some pretty good teams out there. So yeah, just fingers crossed.
00:05:25
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Unbelievable, yeah, that's a great rise for old Holmsey. Getting back to his old ways in being an actual good coach on the show, so I appreciate that from you, Holmsey.
Standout Players of the Week
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Dossie to round out the scores. 2049 this week, which surprisingly was a good score. I think it was an 8000 round rank for me, which very, very good scenes. Unfortunately, we'll talk about some results that didn't go my way in a little bit, but
00:05:52
Speaker
I need that drum roll back again this week because people are wondering, did I manage to break the rankings drought? And was I able to push in to the 20,000? Have they released the shadow ban on my account following my claim to the Lux earlier this pre-season? Well, I'm here to tell you, drum roll please.
00:06:15
Speaker
I am now ranked 321st overall, plus 18,000. But look, it's been a journey and I'm now inside the top 20,000 guys. Thank you.
00:06:29
Speaker
Thank you. It's only Harmony that's clapping up. I could have used a bit more from you guys, but yeah, it's been a journey. I'm finally inside the top 20K and looking forward to my rise toward that Lux once again. Speaking of Luxes, let's talk about them for this week.
Top Players and Strategic Contributions
00:06:47
Speaker
Louis, who wins your Lux for the week?
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I was going to give it to the obvious one, but I'm sure somebody else will bring that up later on, but I'll just pay respects to Errol Goulden for his 145. Probably wasn't going to be a guy I was going to select in the preseason, but forced my hand. Ended up being a good pick early on and dropped those two 150s, 160s.
00:07:14
Speaker
Dropped off a little bit and part of me thought, oh, maybe he's just going to return to being a 90 to 95 guy, but he's very much established himself now. 145 can't complain. Top six forward all the way. And it's been a very good pick. Yeah, we won't talk about how the Mighty Weagles went in that game, but he certainly showed up to play and feast on those fantasy points that were on offer. Hami, your likes for the week.
00:07:40
Speaker
Look, I think I might have to leave my number one to you there, Dospy, but I also quite like the game of Willday, 116 points for the Hawks here, a bit of a mixture of on the ball and on the back flank in James Sicily's absence.
00:07:59
Speaker
I held him through where a lot of people jumped off so yeah I was really happy with his Scora 116 there and I think the Hawks don't have too bad a run coming up so happy enough to hold him and comes in handy with another out this week in Elliott Yeo so I can flip him back because he's been in my midfield so bringing a midfielder which is probably not too bad a result.
00:08:22
Speaker
Yeah, I was watching that game, just ran right in the midfield for a little bit and then they switched him back and he was feasting on those plus sixes back there and just playing loose in defense, as you said, in that Sicily role. So that was pretty good to watch.
Controversial Trades and Humorous Exchanges
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Holmesy likes for the week.
00:08:36
Speaker
Yeah, and I'm going to go with Christian Petrarca on the Thursday night. So he was always going to have a better role with Clary Oliver being named out again. But at 125, I didn't think he'd do that down at the cattery. It's generally a pretty tough matchup. So for him to get that done on Friday on Thursday night as a bit of a unique was a good way to start the round. And of course, for me, my lucks for the week, he's back. Cue the music, please.
00:09:06
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It is the GOAT. Braden Feorini. Stewie-doo came to his senses, popped him in the guts, and boy oh boy wowie we saw 115 points from the GOAT. He does that every time he moves into the midfield. Holmes he whys and he play there more often.
00:09:23
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good question, Dos, but I'm actually, I'm a little bit confused. So you've given it to Feorini, but I've got the first who said what segment for the day today. So I want to just go back to the 11th of April. This was at 6.20 and I've got some trades here. So someone's come into the, into my DMs and show me their trades and he's got Matt Rao to Jordan Dawson and then Jinby to Tucker. Who do we think those trades were boys?
00:09:52
Speaker
Louis, any idea? Oh, uh, uh, Scram's Dossy. Yeah, you'd be right. So, so Dossy, why, why haven't you given your, your plus three to Jordan Dawson? You've surely got him, don't you?
00:10:07
Speaker
Very good, very good, Holmsey. Yeah, look, I've been the biggest fan of JD for many years, as we know. Going back to the Sydney days, watching him lay 24 tackles in the kneeful back then. And yeah, just was screaming for him to play in the midfield.
00:10:23
Speaker
didn't think it would happen this year. And what happened this year was the one bloody year he actually moves into the guts. Yep. The 172. My God, that was hard to watch on the weekend. I've unintentionally set that up very well, haven't I? I couldn't believe that you weren't picking Jordan Dawson with the highest score of the season of every player, I believe, for your, for your luck, mate.
00:10:47
Speaker
Oh my god. Yeah, no, that's completely rough. But I'll take the GOATs 1.15 instead. Oh, that was a complete performance from Dawson, though, and should have been, as they've now said, should have been rewarded the kick after the siren to have probably the greatest, one of the greatest games of all time in the modern era. That was unbelievable. So, guys, is he a must-have on the stretch home? Do I have to pay up that millie, Holmsey?
00:11:13
Speaker
You absolutely do mate, but where are you going to find the coin? It's a big jump from Elliot Yeo. It's a big jump from just about anyone, so good luck. Ross, did you go up in ranking this week with the Dawson 172?
00:11:28
Speaker
Yeah, without it, yes, I did. Yeah, I jumped like, I jumped 5K ranks, I think, without JD, so big week for Nelson. That's interesting. Maybe you were able to hide behind that top 18 a little bit there, but it is interesting that you were still able to go up with that. Well, Louis, I suppose you had Jordan Dawson go 60 above his average, but he had Feoreni go 60 above his average as well, so pretty much evened out. 1% owned, Feoreni. There you go. All right, let's get on to our sucks for the week.
00:12:00
Speaker
Yeah so I often struggle to come up with the sucks because I'm not really too upset with a lot of the players on my team for whatever reason even when they do truly suck but this week hurt because all I needed was Bailey Humphrey to go 50 to be able to facilitate my trades. This week I'd planned the trades
00:12:22
Speaker
Previous week based on that and sort of did the maths on Selby's website and figured out alright Humphrey only needs to go 47 and he dishes up a 36 or whatever it was and on 5k short of my ideal trade It's pretty flattening and for that because of that reason badly Humphrey's got to get the sucks for me this week Yeah, that hurts that hurts in the boys harmi. Do you have a different sucks? I
00:12:48
Speaker
Yes, I do have a different sucks and unlike Louie, I find it very easy every week to give my sucks out because I've had quite a few bad plays. But this week, I thought I'll trade. Last week, sorry. I thought I'll trade my worst player to the best.
00:13:06
Speaker
money making player, best mid price player in the comp available. So I went Johnson out and Elliott Yeo in. That one cost me one point because Johnson had 99 I think and Elliott Yeo got 98 and it's also cost me another trade. So that's cost me two trades. So my sucks goes to Elliott Yeo this week. Thanks Yeo.
00:13:29
Speaker
Harsh on the great man. I'm struggling with the injuries, but you know, that's hard. Harmony is a harsh man. Holmesy, what about you?
00:13:37
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Yeah, mine's going to go to Jay Caldwell, and he's actually been very good for me. He's made over, or pretty much 100k since I brought him in. I think he put up two tons out of his three games that I had him, or maybe a 90ish score, and he had the low break even. He really should have gone this week for me, but I thought I'd ride it one more, playing against Freo. The midfield role was still there. He just didn't tackle, so for that reason he only put up a 69, still got his possession.
00:14:03
Speaker
didn't quite get it done. So yeah, Jay Caldwell, and hopefully I can move him on this week, but it's going to be a little bit tricky with the Elliott Yo situation as well. And my Sikes for the Week, I'm giving it just to a bit of Vintage Dossy trading. I've been a really, really good student of the game. I think I followed some of the advice from the group quite well in the last six or so weeks and had some really good trades up my sleeve. But this week, it was Vintage Dossy.
00:14:29
Speaker
We had Peddler Atkins and Bergman going out last week, but coming in was Windhager, which I think was solid. Elliot Yeo, which was also very solid until the injury news, so probably not so solid now. But thirdly, it was Kitty Coleman that made his way into Dossie's squad. And this was off the back of being told not to do it on the AFL fantasy fanatics little livestream right before the game started.
00:14:57
Speaker
They told me this was from a Brisbane fans as well. They were saying don't do it. He's not fit He's not looking good this year. What I want to say is he's looking fit. He's looking fine He lacks thirst and I was lied to on that stream. That's what they should have told me I never would have picked him Kitty Coleman in the squad unfortunate for me
00:15:16
Speaker
Let's get on though now to recapping some of our Content Creator Cup. And look, going forward, I'm sick of just talking for me for so long. I thought I'd hand this roll over to, you know, honorary member of the Content Creators Cup, the permanent buyer, the man who's not actually in the league. It is you, Hami. Can you please recap the round that was in the Content Creators Cup?
00:15:41
Speaker
Look, may not be in the league, but I must say I'm a massive fan of the Content Creators Cup, and I really look forward to this update every week, Dossie. So thanks for passing the baton over to me on this one, obviously supported by Infinite Wealth. And boy, it was an interesting week for the Pod Pod crew.
00:16:01
Speaker
We were held up by our man Kyle, 2-1-0-7, getting a massive win over Matt there. Stado, I tell you what, you thought his season couldn't get more unlucky. Well, how about this? A draw, 2-0-9-8, and a draw with Luke from the Ballboys. Louis going down to Nathan from Hat Chat, and Dos Rera,
00:16:29
Speaker
Oh, one point loss. Honestly, heartbreaking stuff for some of us. Absolutely robbed. And that was with the Jordan Dawson on the opposition. That was absolutely robbed. Jake from Hat Chat. I was waiting for updates. I was sending him, I sent the message of robbed with the meme of the Adelaide Crows fan. I mean, that was just absolute bullshit. But we'll move on though and talk about some
00:16:54
Speaker
Did he send you a Twitter message, mate? GG or whatever it was? GG too easy. No. Did we get a response to that message? We did from Sans. Yeah. We said, yeah, he said he's finally, he said, oh, I just decided to have a week off relax, you know, from the, from the Twitter and I come back to this bullshit or something like that.
00:17:14
Speaker
But then Jake, no, he was too nervous to talk until he got the dub. So I'll probably enjoy a message from him in the coming days now that it is confirmed. I think he was very nervous of a late adjustment and for Dossie to get the dubs over him. Alas, Champion Dada couldn't come to my aid there. Now, Holmsey, you've been keeping a track now as well of our beloved listeners in the Pod Pod Challenge and give us an update there.
00:17:41
Speaker
Yeah, how's this, Dossie? So 25 coaches inside the top 100. I'm a pretty poor maths teacher, but that's one quarter of the top 100 as in the Pod Pod community. So that's unreal. Shows that even though we're not having fantastic seasons ourselves, the advice we've been given out is still pretty solid. And that's including three inside the top 10. So you've got
00:18:03
Speaker
Jono with Love at First Lance, he's sitting in fourth, so he's right in Hilux territory, as are the other two in the top ten as well, Bindi's Blues and Ten's Titans. And then WhatsApp, one, two, another three inside the top 20, and as we said, 25 inside the top 100. So that's unreal, fingers crossed that those teams can keep pushing towards the top.
00:18:25
Speaker
I'm pretty sure when I went well in 2021, I think I was sitting about 25th coming out of the buys. So that's showing that even someone, you know, sitting around that top 30, they're all still well in the hunt. So they really need to just give it one final push towards the end. And what would your advice be, Holmsey, and maybe even we'll get Harmony's opinion too, of you're a man that's been there and done that before in that top 10 and in that hunt home. What advice would you give coaches in that situation?
00:18:56
Speaker
Oh I suppose you just can't be afraid to be different and there's been that narrative over the last day or so that the Elliott Yo was a shocking pick but those type of players present the most upside when a large majority of the top 100 would be too nervous or too scared to go there and
00:19:11
Speaker
You've got to be willing to go against the comp. If you play at vanilla from here, you'll have a very good finish, but I think you've got to be willing to lose and drop out of the top 100 if you're having a crack at the car. I'm not saying be stupid and trade out just for the sake of trading out, but just be really smart and maybe play the game a little bit.
00:19:29
Speaker
really heavily invested in Selby's top 100 and top 50 numbers at this time of the year and seeing how that ownership lined up just to be a little bit different. I know the famous one was there was a week where everyone sort of went Dan Houston and I zagged and went Daniel Rich instead and that allowed me to put on sort of 20 points a week on most of the coaches in the top 100. So just being really smart with your trades and yeah, just backing yourself and not being afraid to be a little bit different.
00:19:57
Speaker
Army, can you add anything to that? Some sage words of advice from Holmsey there.
00:20:02
Speaker
I really just support all of Holmes' comments there. I guess it's probably a different strategy if you are leading or if you are chasing, but you really do have to play your own game and focus on the ownership percentages and who has got what in those teams above you and look at the run-home for the teams and the players that you're looking to bring in, so looking at their ownership percentage and their match-ups coming forward.
00:20:31
Speaker
And Ahami surely is someone who's been on the back end of this. Just trade in Tex Walker in round 24 against the Eagles who's chasing a Coleman. Do you reckon that's a good play? Imagine that, yeah. They'd probably be feeding him too, wouldn't they? So it'd be interesting to see what happens.
00:20:48
Speaker
It's been done before, was it Jeremy Cameron a couple of years ago? That was to you, wasn't it? That was to you, Harvey, right? I've got that, right? Haven't I? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was basically the difference. I think that like I held Jack Billings and he got a 55 and Craig traded in Jeremy Cameron, still the biggest score that he's ever put up. I think it was a 154. So yeah. And that was the difference between winning and not sort of thing.
00:21:15
Speaker
That's rough. Thanks for bringing that up. Not that I can remember, Reg Seeley. All right. Hot topics, everyone. I think we've mentioned it off the top a couple of times with Elliot Yeo for the coaches that brought him in. Lots of people did, as we've said, everyone on this show did currently at the moment. But, Louis, do we go up or is it a situation where there are a couple of, well, there's one clear kind of value option below, which way are you going, up or down?
00:21:42
Speaker
Oh, look, I'm going to go up at this point, I think. But where you head is probably dictated a little bit by the salary spend that you've got from last week. And what else is going on on your ground? Because unfortunately, Elliot Yeo just doesn't have a lot of cash on his head.
00:22:02
Speaker
There are a few blokes beneath him that could score potentially the same and maybe even have a slightly greater upside, but you're either taking a punt on them or you're going straight up and trying to find a big dog. So you're talking, you know, your docketties who would be relatively unique at this point of year as James Sisley in a couple of weeks would be another good example.
00:22:26
Speaker
Uh, you know, even a Tom Stewart, who's probably not doing what you want to do at this point, but is still presenting a little bit of value. I think, yeah, you're just jumping off and you're trying to, um, put a bandaid over that one. Unfortunately, you'd be damn happy with that. Wouldn't you? You're up to dockety this week. Far out. That'd be great move.
00:22:46
Speaker
Thanks, mate. Very happy with that. All right. Well, there's plenty of other options that listeners are keen to know about later, but we'll get to them as time goes on. Unfortunately, I agree with what Holmes said, though. I think Yo, despite the injury concerns, was a smash play if it was going to play off. And look, you've taken a risk. I wouldn't be too upset with that. I think the option was going to be there. It's just unlucky. Clayton Oliver.
00:23:12
Speaker
gone again. Um, I just want to know, obviously you can't bring him in when he's injured, but how do we approach him now? Harmony, when he finally does come off that injury, could this be somewhere, somewhat of a point of difference that coaches aren't keen to jump on or given what we've seen from injured players coming back this year, you know, maybe like a steal or even a meals this week, getting subbed off and a locky. Well, I mind you getting subbed off in a win there as well. Would you be a bit cautious jumping on a Clayton straight when he comes back?
00:23:42
Speaker
If I was in the top 1000 there's no way I'd bring him in the first week. He's had so long out of the game you've got to think it's going to affect his touch coming in. It's not like he's put up a poor score and dropped a bit of price in the week that he did get injured either. He still could put up a decent score, didn't he? I'd be very reluctant to bring him in the first week but he could come back in a couple of weeks.
00:24:05
Speaker
And then for the last five weeks of the season, be an amazing pick up at a low ownership. So there is that chance as well, but I wouldn't be bringing him in straight off. It's been five weeks now, hasn't it? On that hamstring. So you'd have to think that's a good chunk of fitness that he's losing. And even then he might be looking at a mini pre-season, something like what Danger did a couple of years ago.
00:24:30
Speaker
Allegedly spent five days in hospital with that blister as well. So what you're sitting in the hospital bed for five days with a drip It's not like he's sitting there eating roasts and ice cream is it so I don't know I think it's gonna affect him as you say
00:24:44
Speaker
Yeah, interesting one. And then finally, there's not a heap of hot topics this way. We've got lots of other stuff to get to, though. But look, the teams have come out for Brisbane, Richmond, just a few changes there. Darcy Fort and Kai Loman has been. Kai Loman's out omitted.
00:25:00
Speaker
Calamachi coming into the team so that that hurts for people looking for a bit of cash in there he looked like one of the obvious ones to benefit from a couple of those veterans dropping out of the squad but yeah unfortunately he's been dropped Jacob Hopper's back in the team along with Marlon Pickett coming back and then
00:25:18
Speaker
Rioli, Dion Prestia, sorry, Maurice Rioli, Dion Prestia and Hugo Rousmith go outside. I don't know if it's heaps fantasy relevant, but was there anything you wanted to touch on there, lads, or shall we move on? Looks like we can move on. Just unfortunate for a car, the Loman owners. Hopper coming back may affect one of the bargain picks this week, Dossie, Trent Cochin. I know Louis was keen on him. Louis?
00:25:43
Speaker
Yeah, well, the obvious replacement in that midfield is probably Hopper. Koch had shown an ability to play up forward. And I think that last three averages obviously slightly inflated by his three hundredth milestone game. But it is hard to ignore a bloke like Trent Koch in at five hundred and sixty K with that 16 break even.
00:26:07
Speaker
I thought you were joking, but fair enough. A bit of Koch magic, but yeah, with Hopper coming back in, maybe a bit looser of a pick.
00:26:15
Speaker
Let's get into observation round table and I'm going to kick it off this week. I just, I know that I'm a big fan. I'm coming home. Some other podcasts, obviously the traders do their best 22 the rolling 22 for the run home. I'm just kind of wondering at this point a year, especially with that extra round. And we've got, you know, as you said, Louie earlier, you know, two months basically before the end of the season.
00:26:39
Speaker
Is now the time to gain the edge with those matchup based plays, like maybe breaking this into a couple of months blocks rather than sort of doing a season end block? And I don't know, like, what are you guys thoughts on that? I just wanted to throw it around the table. Like, is it more important just maybe break the season up into two months? And because we still have so many trades left to try and get those matchup plays in this first month and then kind of shift it, shift gears and go the other way for the last month.
00:27:10
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely it is, I think, Dossi. We're seeing with New Age Fantasy that there's just a wealth of information out there. On Twitter, Spotify, just all the platforms, there's a lot of people who are very clued in and it's harder than ever to try and find that point of difference in our team.
00:27:28
Speaker
I think splitting it up into chunks a little bit like how you would in draft might be the new way to start trying to find that edge. Certainly in the latter half of the season as well when you're looking at luxury trades and you're not making that high risk sort of trade to cull somebody for somebody else it's more of a
00:27:47
Speaker
play the matchups type thing and you know if that results in fifty extra points every single week then that's massive when it's extrapolated out to eight games of data so I think that's going to be the new age fantasy way to go and looking at the next month of matchups is just going to be so important to finding that ceiling and as we've already seen this year I think finding that ceiling with vice captain and captaincy loopholes because
00:28:15
Speaker
In previous years, we probably haven't had as many opportunities to do the loop with the VC. And I think we've probably underutilized it a little bit as well. And there's a lot of scope for improvement there.
00:28:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's a good call. And yeah, that's just, I guess, going back to using those tools that we have available to us, whether you're, you know, I remember with Moreira's Magic, using those numbers, whether you're using Kepa League or you're using like the draft, what's it, DFS Australia have their defence first position rankings, which is also really good to look at those matchup plays and kind of planning ahead as well. So our planning as much as the buyers are done isn't complete yet. Hami, what do you reckon, man?
00:28:56
Speaker
Well, I was just going to say, in amongst the match-ups, I don't think we should lose sight of the chasing players that have got some value still. And rookies are going to make cash and that sort of thing, because we've still got over a third of the season to go. We're not even two-thirds through. So you've still got to be building value in your team, I think, if you can. That's why I was a bit disappointed with some of those tradings through the buy period, like your Kyle Lohmann types.
00:29:25
Speaker
man, he just may sit there as a red dot, you know, over the next two months now and that's not really going to help us. So I think it was DT Lemon, like he built a massive team value a couple of years ago and he ended up finished third, like he came home with a wet sail because he was still, you know, building up the value of his team and yeah, making money along the way. So we can't sort of then just go and grab, oh, I want to take Dawson and Brayshore and
00:29:54
Speaker
um i don't know lead maybe someone else this week even though lead's probably not a bad pick um you can't just go chasing all the top dogs because it's at the expense of um yeah the valuer picks i suppose that are out there
00:30:08
Speaker
Hami, in some ways would you say that for the top 100 currently, do you think there's a world where essentially the best bench is what takes the win and not the best on-field team? Because you're constantly generating that value. You can come home with a wet sail. I think it's definitely part of the consideration. Yeah, absolutely. Is it more than ever? Because it's just this season, it seems like everybody's got three or four red dots.
00:30:35
Speaker
Um, well, I don't know if it's more than ever because we have the rolling lockout and you can actually be looping players. Um, and you don't sort of the, the emergency means a bit less perhaps because you got like an opportunity throughout the whole course of the weekend to move people around and still support your on field. So you're less risk of copping a zero from a late out and that sort of thing. So I don't know if it's more than ever, but it's definitely part of the game.
00:31:05
Speaker
What homesy given numerous thumbs up during that that display that call it is it is a podcast format homesy you do you can't speak Matt Yeah, well that harmi summed it up beautifully, right? Like I spoke about it before how I was 25th coming out of the bias and ended up, you know finishing second It's a constant theme that we speak about I mean Mottram kind of bucked the trend last year and chuckers in terms of getting to the top early and staying there But year after year, we just say these teams come home
00:31:35
Speaker
They fly home with a wet sail because they are continually building that team value. You're right, you still need to be picking the right rookies. It's not the time to just burn your benches and not have any money to upgrade. You might have a complete team at this point, but there's still always the better players that you want to be able to jump to and you're going to need cash to do that.
00:31:52
Speaker
If you don't have a Dawson, you do need him at some stage and he is that expensive and good luck getting there if you've got a whole bunch of rookies on your bench that are 200, 250, 300K because you're not going to be able to get enough money from them to get up to those players. I don't know whether it's more important than ever, but it's definitely a part of the game that is overlooked. We think we get to this point of the year and that's it, but we still need to be really smart with how we manage our benches and generate the cash.
00:32:21
Speaker
It probably extends a little bit out to some of the mid prices we start to and obviously not all of them, but I know I've been looking at some matchups and I've seen some coaches that are still doing some trades with a James Walpole, a Finn Callahan.
00:32:37
Speaker
these types that many teams started and we all traded at some point maybe around around five or six and it was probably for the better at the time but you do sort of sit back and think well I wonder how much better off I would have been to wait another five weeks generate that extra 200k have that you know 80 85 rolling average there and address other parts on my field as well so yeah I think there's a lot of improvement to be had for that sort of stuff
00:33:04
Speaker
Yeah, I often look at the team value in the top 100 and kind of think that, you know, if a few of those people sitting a bit further back with the team value are going to, as you say, come home steam and on the run home, it might be one for my Cuz Papowski to kind of give us those those million dollar kind of rankings and see where people are sitting and maybe even give us that crop range that we're looking for earlier in the season as to when we should be really cropping those trades and
00:33:29
Speaker
Where we're sitting at. The crop range. The crop range from Kuz, Papowski. Very scientific. I know that, Louis, you have another observation for us this week.
00:33:41
Speaker
Yeah, and it's probably a little bit similar to what we've been discussing and it's just trying to find that point of difference in fantasy where plenty of coaches are switched on. And I just wanted to highlight a couple of names that are pretty popularly owned that maybe just aren't putting up the numbers that we'd like that maybe you can just put on your radar as a little bit of a point of difference to jump off at some point. So Tom Green.
00:34:07
Speaker
Someone who's had a phenomenal season have been an awesome starting pick. His last three is currently 97, last five 102. He started the season like a house on fire but he's 36% ownership. I'm thinking if you can get an extra eight points a week on 36% of the competition via Tom Green that you might be a whole lot better off. What do we think you have Tom Green guys?
00:34:35
Speaker
I'm not the one to comment on this, Louie, because I traded him out and he put a 170 on my head. So I think it's really tough for these players that do have the ability to go 130 plus, which we have seen Tom Green do what? I think he had a high 120, a low 130 and a 170 this year. So he has had three monsters.
00:34:53
Speaker
and he has some good matchups coming up. So you are right, you're absolutely spot on. He hasn't been putting up the numbers in the last five, but has he had a few tough games? Has there been a reason that maybe he was tiring towards the buy and then that freshens him up and he's ready to go in the second half of the season? I'm not too sure, but I do think you want to be smart about when you do trade these players out. And that just comes back to the matchup argument that we were speaking about earlier on in the pod.
00:35:20
Speaker
Yeah, probably a difficult game this week against Melbourne, but I kind of looked at trading him throughout the buys, but I didn't. Because after the Melbourne, he's got the Hawks, Crows, Suns, Bulldogs, then a couple of tough games, the Swans and Port, then Essendon and Carlton to finish. So it's probably not too bad or un-is it?
00:35:41
Speaker
No it's not so maybe that's one that you just hold off for a couple of weeks but there's certainly scope for a better player there if you want to get an extra few points on the comp. Another one is Sam Walsh. He's not as highly owned but some did jump on early and look I just wanted to mention this guy just purely based off his last three and five which I'll be mentioning with all these players. 76 last three and 86 last five from Sam Walsh. First of all
00:36:08
Speaker
can't wait to pick him in 2024. But second of all, are we just putting a line through him now unless he gains forward status, which I think he is in line to do. But geez, it's even then he's not even knocking on the door of being a top 15 forward with those numbers.
00:36:24
Speaker
You say that, Louis. You say you can't wait to pick him in 2024, but the start that he had, he's still averaging 102 for the season. So at this point in time, if he does turn his form around a little bit, he's still not going to be heavily underpriced. But he's someone I'm definitely looking at. I think with the potential forward status, it's a bonus as well. But we know what he can do. He's their future. He's their star.
00:36:47
Speaker
If there's any inkling that Carlton are going to turn their form around, then he's going to be a big part of it. And you would think that he's going to go back to being that 100 to 105 averaging player. He doesn't really tackle enough. He's definitely more reliant on heavy disposals in that in that Carlton system. But yeah, man, he's someone I'm looking at this week. He's just someone I love and he's clearly under priced for what we know he's been able to do ever since he came into the comp in 2020.
00:37:16
Speaker
Yeah, I tend to agree, Kyle. I think if you're an owner now, you're selling low, and everybody who's not an owner is looking to buy low at this point. And if that forward status does come to fruition, then that's going to be huge. The next one, which, Hami, you mentioned earlier, is Will Day. And I've got him in this list. I know he had a great game last week, and that was off the back of his roll change. But previous to that, he was just a little bit underwhelming, sort of floating around that 85 to 90 mark.
00:37:45
Speaker
He's owned by 30% of the competition and knowing that the role just is fluctuating slightly a little bit. Are you just thinking that maybe there's a way to find an edge on the competition there as well?
00:37:59
Speaker
Well if we have a look at his splits, sorry Hami, I just did have a point on wheel day actually. If we look at his quarter splits, he had 24 in the first quarter and then he had that monster 50 in the second quarter when he was able to really sit back behind the play. And then he had two other quarters where he just scored in the 20. So although he had a good 116, he was really off the back of that 50 point quarter.
00:38:20
Speaker
You know, if that just is a normal game, then that's a flat sort of 100 score. And we've seen him have a floor this year in terms of not a 60, but he's prone to putting up an 80 score off the back of 30 possessions. So if he's not able to get back into that loose man role, which he won't be in two weeks time when Cicely comes back, I think he's absolutely someone you can look to sell high on and get an edge over the comp. He's probably the perfect player that I spoke about in terms of getting off to go someone that's a little bit more unique with a better ceiling.
00:38:49
Speaker
Yeah, I almost think it's, it's like you say in two weeks though. I think you have to wait because I mean, even though we say roll change, he still had 19 center bounce of tennis, which was most for Hawthorn as well. So he's playing midfield and floating back. So until, until Sicily is back in the side to sort of take the other half of his points, I'd probably still stick around will day.
00:39:09
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. I think that defensive role helped. And for that reason, you almost want to read the tea leaves a bit and realize that in two weeks time, that's probably not going to be a role that he's going to have. And which point he's going to maybe return back to that 90 to 95, which might not cut it. And you might be able to find somebody better. Next up is Matt Rau. Last three of 73 and a last five of 87. Right off the top, I'll go to you, Dossi. What do you think of Matt Rau, mate?
00:39:37
Speaker
Yeah, look he's in my he's in my plans to jump off this week. It's unfortunate He served me very very well, but with the goat in there There's just too many mouths to fade man when you go around any style down to Flanders Dossi on the card Potentially on the cards. We haven't even mentioned that that Flanders
00:39:56
Speaker
As if this show itself was a Buzz Lightyear, itself podcast last week, Sam Flanders just comes out, we get Stevie Fizz on the show, we talk Flanders up big time, he drops a huge score. Yeah, look, I don't think that's potentially something on the cards, but Matty Rao certainly, even with Took Miller coming back soon as well, he's only listed one week away on the injury report that came out today. Hami doesn't believe it's going to happen, but
00:40:23
Speaker
Took Miller one week away, apparently. Look, I don't know if that hurts Matty Rowell or helps him, but he's not a top, he's not a gunned midfielder and he's sort of had his hot patch, I think.
00:40:36
Speaker
And he's not heaps highly owned either. He's about 8%. But I've got him here because Noah Anderson's about 8% too. And I think most people that have got those two players probably used it as a buy-around play. And even though Noah Anderson is turning it around as of late, he was probably a good example of Fortnite ago. But with Tuke Miller coming back into that side over the next Fortnite, potentially that's going to be something you want to look at.
00:41:01
Speaker
The next one is Steven Canelio. Last three, 100. Last five, 101. 40% ownership. It is difficult with the forward status to find somebody better than that, but he is pretty much performing at what you paid for. There's potential to find a leg up on the comp there if you want to play the matchups.
00:41:19
Speaker
as we spoke about earlier, and finally, which might be a bit controversial, I'm not sure Tom Stewart's getting it done. And I even mentioned him before, I said, look, he's probably in a right option. He still presents a little bit of value. But really, if you strip it back, his last three is 94, his last five is 95. He's at 28% ownership. And when you've got blokes like a Sam Docherty, who's lowly owned and can put
00:41:45
Speaker
you know, 30 points on his head every single week, potentially, then that's something I would look at. That being said, Tom Stewart also does have that awesome run home where he's playing at GMHBA Stadium, where he has shown a bit of ceilings. So might take a bit of a braver coach, but sometimes that's what it takes to get that extra leg up.
00:42:05
Speaker
Nice little observation from Lou there as well. And we have had a big observation section in this, this podcast, but we've got one final one from, from Harmony from the weekend. There was something a bit strange going on down in our dock land.
00:42:19
Speaker
Yeah, thanks, Dospy. One that I wanted to raise, and it's probably one of the most disgusting acts that I've seen on a footy field for some time. I was pretty gutted, really, and I think that it really rattled Essendon, who I love and support. And they, you know, in the last quarter, they couldn't get it done. I think it really affected the game. And I'm calling on the AFL to hold an investigation, because at three-quarter time in the 3-0 versus Essendon game,
00:42:47
Speaker
Couldn't help but notice the music blaring out of the loudspeakers with a nut bush coming on and a line dancing demonstration occurring on the sidelines, which I think is just really poor form. And yeah, I mean, would have been a distraction. And is this a common thing for Rio supporters to encourage at the game?
00:43:07
Speaker
Absolutely, mate. You know how we love our culture. We love everything about it. So yeah, it definitely had nothing to do with the fact that the bombers were coming off the by army and came up against flag mantle. You just keep focusing on the nut bush, mate. I was very good being along the sidelines as part of that. It was fantastic.
00:43:29
Speaker
Oh, my God. Should we give context to this? Go ahead, Lou. I don't even know. I can't even figure out the context myself. Hami was very distraught with the bush. I think I just had maybe a bit of a larger Saturday night, but I just remember waking up Sunday morning and reading the Pod Pod chat and just I was struck by how passionate Hami was about how the nut bush ruined the box.
00:43:59
Speaker
So I thought I wrote down that should be an observation during the week, just that the nut bush is no good. And I hope you guys enjoyed that little chat GPT story during the week of Mr. John Harvey traveling back in time to stop Tina Turner from riding the nut bush. Yeah, ban the nut bush.
00:44:16
Speaker
I think we're going to have to do, you know, we do our Apple ratings challenges. I think we might have to do one to get John Harvey doing the nut bush for us.
00:44:33
Speaker
All right. Well, as a bit of fun this week, we've actually got a little bit of a different setup in our sort of end of the show. We really wanted to do a little bit of a draft style episode here because I feel like we've mentioned it a few times and there is
00:44:51
Speaker
this part of the year where you managed to find those sweet little spots of those picks that come home and win you the locks. And really, we wanted to put our put our nut bush on the line, if you will, there are harmi and pick a few players that might get it done on the run home. Now we're going to do a draft style, snake style draft. We're calling this segment light years ahead to infinity and beyond.
00:45:20
Speaker
and start off in our light years ahead draft. Now just to reiterate, these are players that we might think are going to steam home from here and they might not be on your radar. They're more of those points of difference. So we obviously know that you can check out obviously the Rolling 22. Those are the guys that are going to be killing it for the run home and being your top sort of end premiums and the traders do a great job there. We wanted to try and pick
00:45:45
Speaker
Some points of difference as this show is called the point of difference podcast. We're gonna do two buzz picks and then two Buzzier picks with which maybe are on the looser end I've organized the the draft order and I just did it randomly I put homesy last because I've just been feeling that way about homes at the moment having to buy him the carton popped army first because he's been in some good form and
00:46:09
Speaker
Hammy, take it away. We're going snake draft. Who's your first light-year pick? Your light-year's ahead of the competition. Who's bringing us home strong? Thanks, Dustby. How long have I got on the pick?
00:46:21
Speaker
Oh, immediate. Five minutes, mate. All right. Look, I'll just put a bit of context. I'm looking at guys with a lower ownership because there's going to be people. What's an example? Jordan Dawson. Okay. He's got 58% ownership. So I think that some players are lower ownership with a high ceiling and a nice run and probably got a bigger chance. So at number one, I'm going to take a Brad Crouch. 11% ownership. Great run coming up for the next nine weeks.
00:46:50
Speaker
Yeah, and came absolutely firing home last year. He would have been a buzz pick last year. So going number one in the buzz draft is Brad Crouch. We've got Louis, pick two.
00:47:02
Speaker
Yeah, not too inspiring, really. Been buzzing about Brad Crouch for about a month now, I think. So I'm going to go a bit buzzier than that and I'm going to go with Max Gorn. Oh, I just got a feeling that the big fella is going to come into his own. There's been a lot of chit chat on.
00:47:20
Speaker
on radio and certain sites and all the like about the ruck tandem duo not working and I'm not convinced that Grundy's a good forward. So I think Max Gorn will pick up forward status and I think he might make a bit of a mess there, so to speak. I think he'll have a bit of a split in the ruck, he'll play forward, kick a couple of goals and might come home as a top six forward.
00:47:48
Speaker
Geez, that is pure buzz. I've put Dossi at pick three here. It's a tough one. I've got a few to pick from here, but I think we've mentioned him a couple of times. And look, I'm going a bit further ahead. Obviously, we're saying from here, and this is a buzz pick, but I think the moment that Sicily steps back on the field, he has to be in every team. I think he's going to be the buzz pick of the year. He's going to come home
00:48:14
Speaker
averaging 120 plus and be a guy. We saw him just play loose in defence in his last couple of weeks before suspension. He's going to be fresh off his suspension as well. And he's just got that role. We saw him last year pretty much come home as well and get a 150 in round 23 last year, I think it was. So James Sicily, my buzz pick, round one pick.
00:48:34
Speaker
Does he play West Coast to finish the year? Obviously they just played them but... Let's have a look. I'll have to check out the sketch. I just think regardless of sketch that Sicily is going to carve. Let's have a look. In the meantime, Holmes here. You take your pick.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah so I'll go pretty vanilla for this first one and I'm glad you guys left him because I haven't had a lot of time to put into this dossy but I will go Sam Walsh. I think primed for a big second half of the year, too proud of a club. They've been down for too long and I think he's going to put Carlton on his shoulders for a big run home.
00:49:10
Speaker
what he can do from here I'm not too sure but he's definitely under priced for what we know he can do so I'll go Sam Walsh and then I'll go I'll go a little bit more of a buzz pick and it's not the optimal time to pick him but I'll go Kieran Briggs with my second pick and I'll make the prediction that I'll be able to trade him up to English at some point in the next five or so weeks for about 150 ish K I think he'll just keep going even though he's got the tough matchup this week.
00:49:39
Speaker
Geez, I like that. That is pretty loose there. That could have almost been buzzier, I would have thought, with the Briggsie continuing to hold. I mean, lots of coaches are going to probably hold here that have him anyway. This is really a tough pick, too, because there's some quality names left on the board with low ownership. And if this guy doesn't get picked, I'll be surprised. But maybe I should just go him.
00:50:02
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to obvious one because this is Buzz. Buzz wants to be right. And Buzz does look ahead of the competition. 7.8% owned, looked a lot better on the weekend. You've picked Brad Crouch with your number one pick. How about Jack Steele?
00:50:18
Speaker
I think he looked much better on the weekend and I think there's much better scope for him to come home absolutely like a steam train like we've seen him do before. Scored himself 104 points, 12 tackles in still low time on ground. Surely things turn around for still soon and he can fire home. So Jack Steele and James Cisley pretty vanilla for older the OG buzz here I must say. Are you being tricked by the lack of strapping on the knee or do you think he was actually moving better does he?
00:50:48
Speaker
I definitely saw some, well, I mean, 104 points in low time on ground. Like when he was out there, he was looking better to my eye. He definitely was moving a little bit better, but you don't reckon, Hami, you reckon he was still waddling a bit? He's still, he's not a hundred percent.
00:51:06
Speaker
Just on that, do you think there's any chance that the low time on ground continues this week and they manage him halfway through the third quarter against the Eagles if they're up by a big margin? Or do you think that he's the captain of the club and it's shown that you just really need to spank the Eagles to get that big percentage boost? What do you think? There's the extensive history of research I've done on it. Mate says yes because Callum Mills did it last week.
00:51:31
Speaker
Yeah, but I don't know. I think the Saints have been trying to talk down this Jack Steele injury for a couple of weeks now. They keep changing their mind what it is. And I don't think they'll admit fault by by resting their captain. You know how that you know how we kickstart this this Buzz Light year. Sesh, we pop the C on the great man on the Sunday night. What do you guys reckon? All right. Now it's over to you. Who's it over to? Hang on. It's back to you, Louie.
00:51:58
Speaker
Yeah, so this guy's a bit surprising actually. One percent ownership. One hundred and seven average. One hundred and nine last five. One hundred and ten last three. He's got the Dees, Hawks, Crows, Sons, Dogs, Swans, Port, Bombers and Carlton.
00:52:14
Speaker
It's Josh Kelly. We know what he does. We know he's an absolute jet. He hasn't had the ceiling that we've been accustomed to in previous years. He's got a top score of 126 and a lower score of 91, but it does show his consistency. And if he can come home strong, then that's a player that I would love to jump on as a point of difference just knowing what he's capable of.
00:52:37
Speaker
It's a juicy option. Back to Hami for your last buzz pick and then your first buzzier pick. Yeah, well, look.
00:52:47
Speaker
Being we're going buzz, I'll probably throw this one out to Bevo's favourite son at the Bulldogs. He's now pretty expensive, but as a back, Caleb Daniel, 5% ownership. I think there's a good chance that he could finish, you know, averaging 100 or more and prove to be a bit of a good pod for those that own him. Yeah. But is that going to win? Is that like 120 in the run? I feel like that's what we need.
00:53:15
Speaker
Well, compare that. Let's, using Louis's example earlier, most of us have got Tom Stewart and let's say you had, yeah, Caleb Daniel instead, and there could be a big points difference every week if Louis is right. I think if Caleb Daniel is going to go at 95, which is conservative, because he's going 110 plus over the last, you know, six, seven weeks.
00:53:40
Speaker
Then he's still a great player on your side because of that versatility between forward and defence. So I find it hard to believe a 95 average in Caleb Daniels is going to be your worst player in your forward line and back line each week. So he might just be the ultimate fantasy swingman on the way home. Oh, OK. For me, that's more of a woody pick, potentially even dare I say a Mr. Potato Head there for you, Harvey. But do you want to take away your first buzzier pick?
00:54:10
Speaker
Yeah, I'll take Woody because I think everybody knows that Woody was a true hero of Toy Story. No, that's a lie. Okay, I'm going to look, I'm going to throw out, you'll like this one Buzz, the forgotten man of the AFL playing for a team that has a really great run home. His team sucks and he's probably their best midfielder. His name is Luke Davies, UNIAC, 2% ownership. I'm amazed at his 2%.
00:54:37
Speaker
Yeah, look, David's beauty act. He's, uh, what do we think? Well, yes, it was LD spew earlier in the year. Um, when an LD poo, when I owned him, but, um, yes, hopefully on the run home, he does lift his game because, um, I think it was last year. It was as early as last year when he moved into the midfield.
00:54:56
Speaker
high, high time on ground, high center bounces, hits every stat line and he came steaming home and actually was one of the reasons why I had a solid end to the last season despite having a rancid start to the season. So yeah, a great pick, Lou. And a lot of those types of players do come home strong just because it's winter and the ball's a bit heavier, there's a bit more tackling and there's a few more contests. So yeah, it's not a bad shot actually. It's good. What's your buzzier pick then Lou?
00:55:26
Speaker
Mine's Shannon Hearn and the retirement parade. So it's probably not something that you'd be jumping on now because there's a long time to go in the season. But we know he's retiring this year. We know he's got a ceiling. In fact, we know that just about his median floor is about 80 just with his kick ins.
00:55:44
Speaker
and all the chip chip that goes on in the west coast backline but I think that Shannon Hearn on the way home, certainly in the last two to three weeks could be absolutely mammoth and maybe that's one for the guys who are ranked top 100 to think about in about two months time.
00:56:03
Speaker
That is a big call. I feel like I'm the only one who's understood the buzz assignment. That's a good one. It is a good one. Well, I'm going with a guy. You went LDU, the other part of the song here, Parrish to Darcy Parrish contract year. He's only got eight weeks to prove his monstrous deal that he wants at the end of this season. So I think Darcy Parrish, I know we've just seen his first game back from injury.
00:56:32
Speaker
Look, he only had 24 disposals and a few marks against Fremantle. You know, I feel like he's just going to build form from here and potentially be that huge wet sail that we need on the run. Holmesy, go back to back here, mate.
00:56:47
Speaker
Yeah, so I'll fit Louis as Simon. I was going to pick a Ben Keys who's actually not as highly owned as I thought he was, but I'll go a little bit more loose. I'll go the opposite midfield partner of John Harmy's pick, LDU, and that's Jai Simpkin, only 0.5% owned. Two years in a row, he's gone at 105 post-buy, so we know he loves coming home with a wet sail. And he's had a few weird injuries this year. He's clearly been out of form and battling some stuff, so priced at $626K.
00:57:17
Speaker
You could do worse than Jay Simkin. He's just been a little bit of a weird year. And the last one, because it is the buzzier picks, and I don't like doing these type of picks, Doss, because I'm never going to pick him, but Tanner Broon, 2.7% owned, and the comments out of Geelong yesterday that they're going to rest
00:57:37
Speaker
a lot of players on the run home to make sure that they're cherry right for finals. I can see him having a pretty predominant midfield role in the back half. And we know he can score. He's always had low time on ground, but he had an 82 on the weekend. He did have a 49 the week before, but that was, he pretty much had that at halftime and then had that injury and then was subbed out. So you could do worse than Tana Bruin. I'm not saying pick him, but this is the buzzier, buzzier section.
00:58:03
Speaker
It is the buzzier, buzzier section. I feel like I've just got too many good options of guys that I genuinely think could go 110 to 115. I don't know if this is that buzzy. You guys can veto me if this isn't buzzy enough, alright? It's been a man that I have
00:58:18
Speaker
had a fondness for this whole season and yet he's still incredibly lowly owned, only at 2.6%. He kicks off his buzz run with a 150 this week against Hawthorne and just continues to fly home. It is Adam Cherrer.
00:58:34
Speaker
as my buzzier pick on the run home a midfielder so a lot of people you know not keen to go there given the positional value but he's a guy that's gone 120 then drop down then 120 or 130 then drop down if he just gets consistency he could go 115 from here Lou
00:58:52
Speaker
So we've had Walsh, we've had Chera, and I reckon you could probably throw Crips into this category too. Is that your pick? Maybe it's worth a small discussion. Who's actually going to get the upside from Carlton? Because no one's really taken it by the horns besides Chera at this point. Or Chera, sorry. Doc's going to take the upside and we move on, I think.
00:59:15
Speaker
Yeah, I'll just think that they've been underwhelming for a long time. I like that Crips score. Two weeks ago, he kicked three goals. The score he got the week before, that was 45. Unhinged. Underwhelming is... He's got a horrible floor, Crips. Even in some of his best seasons, his floor is frightening. But that's what you're saying though, low right? The underwhelming form equals potential in disguise right there for guys with upsides.
00:59:42
Speaker
Yeah, somebody's gonna pop on the run home. I think Cher is gonna be the one. Louis, buzzier pick your final one.
00:59:50
Speaker
Yeah, so I was going to go Ollie Wines, but I'm having a tough time wanting to convince anybody to go wines over a mils or even potentially Holmes's pick just before in a Simpkin. I'm going to go Liam Duggan, which is pretty out of the box. It's 1% ownership as well. Last three average of 1.15, last five average of 1.04, which is watered down by
01:00:16
Speaker
a 69 on the weekend, which goes to show the form that he was in. He's taking kick-ins. There's no Yo who was also taking some of the kick-ins. West Coast are getting pumped every single week. It's going to be in the back line and he's going to be taking kick-ins more often than not each week and I think he's someone who could potentially come home with a wet sail. He's shown consistent sealing over the last six weeks and
01:00:44
Speaker
You could make a case that maybe it can't continue because it's not working for the Eagles, but if it does, then this is the Alex Witherton and that everybody's sort of been edging to pick for the last 10 weeks. And we didn't mention at the top of the show, but during this show, we have made a drinking game anytime wet sail has been used that you do have to do a shot. So unfortunately, that's part of the game there this week. Harmony. Okay. Final pick of the draft.
01:01:13
Speaker
Yes, and Dossi, I think you will agree with me that this is the pick that will win me the draft. 1% ownership coming off 115 points. How did I not do it?
01:01:28
Speaker
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01:01:49
Speaker
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01:02:18
Speaker
Now I'm just going to smash through a few of these because I know we've already done a massive pod here lads and I'm just going to throw to you and Louie to finish this off. Louie and Hami to finish off. We are at Pod Pod AFL. If you want to go follow us on Twitter, we ask for requests every single week from our listeners to get a little bit of a fresh perspective.
01:02:36
Speaker
We've talked about lots of players on this podcast already. I just want to touch on the big ones that got called out by our listeners. Now, Harry Himmelberg was a massive one. We've talked a little bit about him, but Hami, what's your verdict on him? Because obviously he's in that price range for Elliot Yeo. And Rojo from the Bowl Boys wants to know, will the Berg sink my season?
01:02:57
Speaker
I don't think he's going to sink your season because what's the worst case scenario he goes 70 probably so I don't think he's going to be a bomb but he presents value I mean he's 570,000 he's been scoring quite well I don't think he's going to be the 100 point player I think he's going to be around 80 or something so if that's all you can get to I still think it's going to be a solid pick
01:03:21
Speaker
I think without Lockie Whitfield in the squad this week, could you get that sugar as well? And is that enough just to jump on and ride the cash rides?
01:03:28
Speaker
Yeah, and also no Nick Haynes, but Locky Keef's obviously down there, Dossie, he'll take a few points off him, but probably a good length to move in. You'll forever bring up my love for Locky Keef last year, I think you always caught that one. Callum Mills is another popular one, you know, not having the breakeven that is desirable.
01:03:51
Speaker
for us, but could you jump early, Louis, given that he was subbed out against West Coast, just precautionary stuff there, and he was looking like he was scoring well, but so was everyone against West Coast.
01:04:04
Speaker
Yeah look you can jump early because it's Callum Mills and a lot of people are going to do it and look to a certain extent I agree but I just can't wrap my head around what we're trading in here. I mean he's gone at 80 for the season obviously that's injury affected with one game.
01:04:24
Speaker
he didn't necessarily have the role when he was fit. He's come back and scored a 64 and he's been subbed, obviously looking after him versus the Eagles, but I just can't help but think back to about three or four weeks ago when some traded in a Jack Steele off of his injury and were left disappointed and I'm just not sure that Callum Mills is that absolute smash player to come back to a 100 plus average when you do have blokes like Goulden, Warner,
01:04:54
Speaker
Parker and robot I'm all in there like playing some seriously good football and averaging well as well so what while I wouldn't convince anybody out of Callum Mills and I think he's going to be. I agree with the best value pick that there is I think there's a lot of holes to be poked in him and that.
01:05:12
Speaker
Potentially, that going against jumping on a callum mills might actually be advantageous to you, as I'm sure the people who didn't jump on Elliot Yeo due to his injury history has been. Luke, can I just try one thing? I'll throw a few names at you. Sorry, Dossie, you might cut across some here that you're going to go to. But you tell me whether you like mills more or less than the people I'm going to give to you around that price point. So you like mills more or less.
01:05:43
Speaker
More. Harry Himmelberg. To put this way, 100K between them. I like meals more. I'm going to go more too, but early for this week. But close. Petty Crips? Closer than you'd think. More, more. Absolutely.
01:06:05
Speaker
They'll probably be other players that come up, but I'm just making a point. You actually, I think you said you like him more than all of those. I think he's the best value option. I just think, like the conversation that we spoke about in our weekly observations and how we can find a point of difference, 50% of the comp are going to jump on Keller Mills over the next fortnight. You guarantee it. He's too cheap not to jump on, so I'm just
01:06:30
Speaker
I'm just pondering about whether or not you could pass on him and find upside elsewhere, even if it means not getting up to even if it means waiting an extra week to get an upgrade and going to a big dog the next week. Can that be enough just to to bridge that gap? All right, Flanders, it is tosy.
01:06:48
Speaker
All right, sounds good. Well, we could talk about, we'll talk about Flanders in a minute. I want to talk about a guy that if he was in the buzz draft, I would have probably taken him three to four weeks ago, given the form now, you know, Jarman Impy. So 117 in his last three, I would have predicted this back then, probably did on the podcast. I don't know, but we'll have to go back and look.
01:07:09
Speaker
Hammy, he is coming home with a, ready, get your shots ready, a wet sail here, but Jarmon Impey, do you reckon, is he still gonna bring that form home even when Sicily comes back and, you know, just going forward, he's in ripping form.
01:07:23
Speaker
Well, you would have gone into that buzz crystal ball and worked out that Sicily was going to get suspended again, wouldn't you? That's definitely helped him along the way. Oh, look, I think I have said before, I don't think he's the right type of player to bring in because he hasn't done this historically, but man, he's just making us look stupid.
01:07:45
Speaker
is, um, I watched the game in the weekend as well. I don't know. Like just kind of got there as well. It just, I don't know. It didn't seem that obvious to me. I mean, I was looking at a few sons pretty closely to be fair, but, um, no, no, no, the one's Nick. Um, sorry for the bombers, the Ford Martin. Yeah. Nick Martin. Sorry. He's just getting it done. He's just getting it done, man. A hundred and 10 hundred every week.
01:08:11
Speaker
Nutbush still really hurt and harm you can't think about. He was one that I hoped would come up earlier in this podcast, but you know, as we approach the end of it, maybe we should bring him up. Nick Martin. Yeah, forward status as well. I don't think so. I think I said that two weeks ago, though, Louie and what an idiot I am should have brought him in. It's the problem is he's just done it against such soft match ups, but I won't be surprised if he continues on because he does pass the eye test. He looks phenomenal.
01:08:40
Speaker
Just an outside player, that's the only disconnect. You know what he reminds me of though, in terms of the ability to still score as an outside player, it's like the Mitch Duncan kind of scoring mould where he just works so hard to get it on the outside, but he's also a good user and just finds space so easily.
01:08:57
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know that that's that'd be such a tricky one because that'd be a ballsy pick at eight hundred and forty K to go On that sort of a point of difference. It would have been a great pick if you I know I think Jep had jumped on him Maybe a few weeks ago on the bias. So that's a good pick by old Jep Alright, let's get to just our last couple here Sam Flanders. We have to do it. We have we are obliged to do it. Um, so
01:09:19
Speaker
He's in the 400Ks. He's come off a great game against Hawthorn. I will say, I watched this game closely on Sam Flanders in particular. He was playing high, half forward for most of the game. So if you just looked at the centre bounces, you'd notice he had a reasonable amount. He did jump into some centre bounces, but they also, if you look at the centre bounces from the last quarter,
01:09:44
Speaker
Stewie Jew chucked him in there when the game was in hand and played Noah Anderson forward to give him a run in the gut. So, um, and I think that was the quarter where, let's have a look where, um, where Flanders did a fair bit of damage. So he had 30 points in that final quarter. But what do you guys think, Louis, you're shaking your head. You're not a Flanders fan. I wouldn't even pick him up off the way of a wire if I was going to catch a donor. Tell us what you really think, Louis.
01:10:13
Speaker
Come on, we can't go back to this town now. Did you watch the game? He was fantastic. He was awesome. I watched it. He was good in the first half.
01:10:23
Speaker
You took that good mark up forward. I don't know. Yeah. That was when you started doing your buzzed off light year routine in the chat. Yeah. All right. Well, I think that's pretty much all we got to cover. There's, there's a few other requests. Um, but yeah, sorry, we haven't managed to get to all of them. The last one, butters versus Canelio. Hami, can you pay up for butters? Butters.
01:10:49
Speaker
Pay up for butters. All right. Well, thanks very much for listening. Any words, final words of advice lads heading into the first week of back to two trades. Pretty depressing with just the two trades. Oh, it's bloody good to actually have some games of football to watch. There's been a bit that I have to wait till 4.50 on a Saturday afternoon for the first game to start.
01:11:10
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Well, on that note, I'll sign off with a little bit of harmi. Just keep the camera rolling. A little bit of nut bush. See you next week.
01:12:02
Speaker
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