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Serial - Tsutomu Miyazaki Japan’s Worst
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This episode is about Tsutomu Miyazaki and I cannot say enough, how absolutely HORRIBLE this dirt bag is. This episode takes you down a path, showing the end result of a family's secret shame, neglect, mental abuse and cruelty. However - what happens when your young never excuses current actions and crimes, and Tsutomu depraved, sadistic crimes cannot be excused.
TW: There are children that were harmed.
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Twisted Tales' Podcast
00:00:03
Speaker
Well, good afternoon, lovely ladies and gents. This is Faith. This is Lisa. And you're listening to a regular, non-U.S.-based Twisted Tales.
00:00:15
Speaker
Oh, the relief, the relief. No one told you where to go tonight, Lisa. No, no, no, no. I didn't have to miss alphabetize a word. No one can see my literacy now. Let's go. I struggled with that. I don't know. We can we can talk about our test runs multiples. Let's move on to Japan. Let's move on. Let's go on. Who cares? The mic was muted for the first hour of our test.
00:00:41
Speaker
No one. Yeah, let's just get past it. Oh, man. All right, Faith. Well, I'm not going to lie. I'm proud of this one. You've you've taunted me for over 24 hours now. Yeah. So this better knock my blasted socks off. Well, if it doesn't, I'm sorry. The next episode will be based on me. I don't care. Murdering you. Oh, ho, ho, ho.
00:01:09
Speaker
You're so clever. I just want the stones at you. I'd throw anything at you, literally. I'm so tired. OK. All right, guys. Well, now that we're done listening to her crap, I'm going to move on to my story. To your crap. My crap,
Introduction to Tsutomu Miyazaki Case
00:01:22
Speaker
too. I am going to talk to everybody tonight about a man named Tsutomu Miyazaki now. I'm going to go ahead and just throw it out there. It's going to be uncomfortable.
00:01:36
Speaker
OK, nice. Not only is it going to be uncomfortable, but there's a very strong possibility that I am going to mix up words. Like mispronounce his name. Yeah. Yeah. I've been practicing. You know, when you said his name like so effortlessly there a minute ago, I thought that can't be pronounced right. There's no way she did that. So like ABC.
00:02:00
Speaker
You did that easier than I picked the next state in the alphabetized state. So hold on. Let's see. One, two, three, four, five. I could be, I could get got on the fifth word. Okay. So just bear with me. All right. Happens. So Tsutomu Miyazaki was born August 21st, 1962 in Itsukachi, Tokyo. And I think that's right.
00:02:25
Speaker
Do you know? Did you? Did you Google anybody's from Japan and they're listening to this story? I would appreciate you letting me know because I don't I don't know. I did my best.
Miyazaki's Troubled Background
00:02:36
Speaker
He was born with a rare birth defect that caused his hand joints to be fused together, preventing him from being able to move his wrist upward. So he was the oldest son of a kind of well-to-do family. They operated the town newspaper. Both his grandfather and his great grandfather served on the town council.
00:02:57
Speaker
According to some of the sources that I read, Satomu's parents weren't exactly around much when he was a child and was mostly raised by his grandfather who was an intellectually disabled man. You know, I want to throw out there. I don't think we have done, like, talked about a horrific crime story, which is, you know, the nature of our podcast.
00:03:21
Speaker
where they had like a solid family background. It's never like they went to church on Sundays, had dinners as families. A lot of people pretended to go to church, but it's always like they had a rough background. Like it was like John Wayne Gacy, who was just like this perfect guy and nobody would ever think that a guy like that could do what he did. There's always outliers, but for the most part, they always have a jacked up history.
00:03:50
Speaker
Anyway, just side note. That's pretty, pretty sure statement faith. So like I said, he was mostly raised by his grandfather who is intellectually disabled man. Now I assume that he wasn't the one that served on the council, but with everybody's experiences in government, you never know.
00:04:17
Speaker
One point or another you've all experienced it. All right
00:04:22
Speaker
So, Sajomo's childhood was a typical childhood for a kid with a deformity, right? Everyone was really caring. They were super helpful. They were there for him when he needed it. They were super supportive. Encouraged him daily. Are you being sarcastic? Wait! Oh, wait! That's the wrong story. I'm sorry. He was teased relentlessly by all of his classmates.
00:04:44
Speaker
He was bullied and pretty much hated himself. OK, apparently the abuse wasn't just by his classmates, but his own sisters. Yeah, because kids are jerks. Yeah, kids are horrible. And kids will only learn a lesson if it never mind. I'm going to move on from that that statement as well. Come on, come on. All right, Faith, buckle your seat belts.
00:05:11
Speaker
Chick chick. Chick chick. All right. So bullied by his own sisters and by sisters, I mean, as it turned out, his older sister was, in fact, his mother. Oh, the plot thickens. What, you ask? His sister was his mom. But that's like olden days, like you don't want to bring dishonor on the family. So you pretend. Oh, is it inbreeding?
00:05:34
Speaker
So his oldest sister is his mother. He found that out later on in his life. Who's his dad? His dad had a sexual relationship with his oldest daughter and to save face, the mother raised him as her own. And kept the father in the household? Yes. Heck no. Again, you're looking at a different culture. I'm saying personally. Oh, absolutely. I mean, he wouldn't be like, you know, I wouldn't divorce him because the body would never be found.
00:06:03
Speaker
I listen to enough true crime that I'm sure I could not get away with it since I'm saying, you know, national news broadcasting. Into the Internet. Well, any any chance you have ever had of getting away is gone now. That's it. It's been heard by at least five people. My mom will know. Mom, don't tell anybody. Keep your lips sealed. Snitches get stitches.
Family Shocking Revelations
00:06:31
Speaker
Snitches get stitches.
00:06:33
Speaker
So, yeah. Wow. I thought that was one of those like you send your daughter, like your your unwed pregnant daughter away and she comes back and you just have a kid. But like, but no, this is worse. If it is a shame thing, it's well, not only do I not want anyone to know that my oldest daughter is pregnant, but I also don't want them to know she's pregnant by my husband. See, that was that makes it worse. Yeah, that would be I mean, you've really hit the nail on the head of the easiest way to dishonor someone.
00:07:02
Speaker
in their family legacy so why that right there why was it why would his own mother make fun of him how old was she do we know how old she was okay no there wasn't a whole lot of um you know i could i could have gotten wrapped up in everybody's names and this that and the other and we don't know um how old the young girl i know it was the oldest um
00:07:25
Speaker
This is probably still in high school minimum. Possibly. Geez. Possibly. Maximum, I mean, max. And you know, maybe I could probably do a little bit more research into that, but there was a lot to cover. And so getting down into the real nitty gritty of his past, and you know how I feel about it. I mean, I know people have a lot of uncomfortable paths, pasts, and it still doesn't justify things for me. So I always end up, you know, the meat of my story is always what happened to the victims, right?
00:07:55
Speaker
Yeah, but. On the flip side, like nothing justifies what he did, but. He was probably very angry at everybody in the world. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. With just cause. Oh, yeah. Your grandfather raped your mother, who's your sister, but also kind of your aunt. Like, that's that's a horrible family tree diagram to draw out. I agree. All right. Continue. Sorry. No, you're fine. I got I got distracted.
00:08:23
Speaker
So pretty much everybody in this kid's life gave him hell. The only one that showed him any kind of compassion was the grandfather that we talked about earlier who was intellectually disabled. Who was his great grandfather? Grandfather. But if his quote-unquote grandfather is really his dad... No. You missed that part. His father had a sexual relationship with his oldest daughter. Okay. The daughter is actually his mother.
00:08:51
Speaker
So we're not talking great. We're talking about his biological daddy. Yes. Should have been his grandfather.
00:09:01
Speaker
No, man, this got complicated. Yeah, there you go. Now you see why I'm confused. But his his bio dad should have been his grandfather. No, his bio dad would have been just his dad had his mom had it. They would have been had the daughter had it had him like she did. Oh, God. Yeah, you're right. There you go. His his biological father should have been his grandfather.
00:09:23
Speaker
We're gonna go with just daddy. Okay, right? Not this not this particular man. I get way too into the weeds I know I'm so off boy, but then it took me a second and I was like, ah dang it You sound like an idiot. Yep. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's a It's a lot. My dad is my granddad. My sister's my mom. That's that's why incest Gets me every I don't get it. I don't understand
00:09:48
Speaker
There's too many. There's too many words. All right. Continue. Sorry. It's all right. As Tomu got a bit older, he found his own mental escape in his everyday loneliness and an abuse.
Isolation and Escapism
00:10:01
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And he began spending a lot of his time reading anime, watching horror movies. He even created his own persona.
00:10:08
Speaker
and called himself Ratman. So basically he was like creating. Oh, yeah. He didn't say a cold name when he was a rat man. But I feel some of the pictures like. It was OK. The way he drew out the hands of Ratman looked almost the way his hands looked. And so that was kind of the weird part. And there's we'll get we'll get to that after. But it's things that we can just post on Instagram. Yeah. So, yeah.
00:10:39
Speaker
By the time he was in high school, this little boy who used to have excellent grades in school pretty much lost interest in everything except for his comic books and movies and his own made-up version of himself. By the time he finally graduated, his grades were horrible and he was completely secluded from the outside world other than his grandfather. His outside world screwed him.
00:11:07
Speaker
And then another thing is too, you don't know.
00:11:12
Speaker
All right, we'll get we'll get real for a second. So when it comes to like incest and stuff, I know there's a lot of like physical disabilities that people can have in incest. And so that's what my next question. How like how mental does it go? Right. It depends on how close the incest is and how the genes hit. Well, I'm going to go with if it's his dad and his sister, that's pretty pretty damn close. It is. But it's I mean, I don't know. It's weird because you can see an incestual offspring
00:11:40
Speaker
be completely quote-unquote I use this term very generalized so don't at me normal yeah and then you can and it can be you know like brother sister or whatever like completely normal but then again you can have an incestuous relationship same everything have a child with physical or mental deformity there's no I don't think there's a rhyme or reason I haven't done a ton of research into it obviously but
00:12:07
Speaker
I just always felt like Game of Thrones depicted incest is completely unrealistic. But it's like all of all of her, the queen and her brother's kids were completely normal. But if you look back into like olden days, like way, way back machine, incest was very common in royal lines.
00:12:28
Speaker
That's true. And a lot of loyal wealthy person is going to depict themselves or any of their family members. True. That's crazy. Deformed or any. But I mean, a lot of them had like blood diseases where they were hemophiliacs and just different stuff like that. They did have diseases where they were mentally
00:12:49
Speaker
and stable the degree of which we don't really know because they didn't have all the medical stuff it's just going off history but I mean and no disrespect because we have a lot of people still here's my thing we have a lot of great listeners so I say this with a very big grain of salt please don't be upset this is just the best analogy I can bring
00:13:13
Speaker
There was incest like back in the day in the royal bloodlines of England. Queen Elizabeth was 100% fine. Right. Even though she probably had incest in her background and came from like long ago before she passed. Yeah, but at some point that bloodline is going to dwindle out when you're, you know, kind of doing it right, I guess, for lack of a better way. How are you doing incest right? If you're looking at like first cousins? No. Well, I mean, honestly,
00:13:36
Speaker
It's not really quite the same club line, but yeah, I mean, you know, her husband wasn't and maybe her mom before that and her dad before that. It was probably like way back for a while. But I'm talking generation upon generation of people who got that family of West Virginia that severely mentally and physically. So when it comes to like when people talk about the past and how all these great kings and leaders and the pictures of these affluent men and women
00:14:08
Speaker
I don't know. I guess I can't buy it if they're if they're that inbred is as you know, it's stated to be. I mean, jeez, you can't even have a normal dog in certain parts without, you know what I mean? So anyway, back to the story, we got I would like to be I would like to make it known. That you were googling some I am googling it now, but if anything comes up on my phone, it was for this podcast. Oh, Lord Faye.
00:14:37
Speaker
Because I'm doing, like, what are the effects of incest on offspring? I'm like, you know, so I'm going to get targeted ads. Like everybody, match.com, mingle, single mangle fish or whatnot for the rest of them. Who needs your brother? Meet these nice cowards. Family reunions.com.
00:15:22
Speaker
Golly if you had to speak that out some of the research that I had to do I'm gonna have to like call it out by name here in a little bit Actually really soon. Oh, no
00:15:34
Speaker
Sorry, we're back on track. Sorry. Are we? That took a weird turn. That definitely took a weird turn. OK, right here. Often. Just like where to get back on track. I got it. I found an article first. Hold on. It is. It is from Guysingler. Title of the article. Keeping it in the family. Game of Thrones title.
00:15:56
Speaker
August 29th. Sorry. Okay. Um, the biological issues.
00:16:07
Speaker
Well, I just want you to know she's like over here tearing up like she's guys is somebody slap happy. Oh, OK. Other side effects of incestuous relationships include increased risk of infertility, miscarriage, cleft palates, heart conditions, facial asymmetry, low birth weight, slow growth rate, neonatal mortality. Even if there's not always a mutation, inbreeding brings up a lot of problems involving recessive traits because the two
00:16:34
Speaker
you have similar genes, any recessive abnormalities you may have can be passed on more easily and expressed more visibly in your offspring. This means that usually the parents do not show any signs of the condition because they only have one copy of that gene that doesn't work correctly. So because you've both got, you're both passing that recessive gene, those traits are going to be more dominant type of situation. Okay.
00:17:00
Speaker
Well, now that we got super off topic, I'm going to try to get back into the murder. Yeah, I hope I get something from Ancestry.com. I can't handle you right now. All right.
00:17:16
Speaker
So yeah, by the time he finally graduated, grades were horrible. He was secluded. The only person he really stayed in contact with was his grandfather. So when his grandfather died in 1988, it seemed like Satomu had completely lost his grip on reality.
00:17:31
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so
Mental Break and Isolation Intensifies
00:17:32
Speaker
much so that he wanted to keep a part of his grandfather alive. So he ate some of his ashes. He entered a course for for for photography. And we're just going to breathe past that him eating his ashes. Just like it didn't. I mean, you could have stopped me. You could have stopped me. Yes. I like grandfather's ashes. Like it was pepper. I know. I don't think he used it as a seat like a seasoning. I think he just
00:17:59
Speaker
got a spoon and just like eight, maybe a scoop. Oh, gag. That that is now there's a lady I work with. Her daughter died suddenly just like brain aneurysm, very young freak accident. She took my drugs and she got a tattoo and had the ashes mixed with the ink.
00:18:17
Speaker
And that's cool. It was cool. There's a lot of people, too, that'll get some of the ashes and wear them around their neck. You can get them made into diamonds now and stuff like, well, not a real diamond, but, you know, like a synthetic diamond. Well, I'm still not going to justify the fact. There's other ways to do. That's what I'm saying. There's lots of ways. Eating eating the ashes is not a necessity. Like to me, at that point, I feel like that's that was the mental break.
00:18:38
Speaker
That was science. Now I am absolutely 110 percent alone. I have nobody any help. I'm eating. I'm eating it. I'm eating ashes. Oh, my worms. Oh, my gosh. Come on. He's over here enjoying some gummy worms that she just dropped all over my porch. It was the best flavored one to the pink and blue ones. That is a debate. Thought she was throwing it at me. I flinched.
00:19:06
Speaker
All right, then I'm going to try again to get back to my podcast. Faith is clearly a freaking child tonight. So all right. So a granddad's ashes. Right. And now I got to try to find my spot again. He entered a course for photography and was completely obsessed with an alternate reality. OK, he was older now and comics and horror films didn't satisfy him anymore. So he dove headfirst into
00:19:34
Speaker
I don't know. Roleplay games? No. That was all I had. No, you're talking about a guy who's probably never been laid in his life. Well, yeah, that's why he wants to see some boobies. Porn. Porn.
00:19:48
Speaker
That was really not an appropriate way to guide you down. I talked about that. I wanted romantic matches on Ancestry.com. I think the professional way has gone out the window for tonight. Listen, this podcast, you're not easily offended. There's a reason that it's graphic. OK, it's not because we cuss or anything. It's because we both have absolutely no filter in thinking things are amusing in the mind of an adolescent boy.
00:20:15
Speaker
Pretty much in a nutshell. All right. I'm going to need you to make sure your seatbelts really, really tight on this one. Okay.
00:20:26
Speaker
Is it tight? You fixed your jacket. I was pulling the seatbelt. You're pulling the seatbelt tighter. All right. He did nothing else but watch porn and go to work as it as it turned out. That's all you do all day. I mean, I'm sure there was some probably comics and then ratman that that was in there at some point. OK, I'm sorry. Ratman just makes me sad. I know. I know. Maybe it's like Mr. Splinter from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
00:20:52
Speaker
No, no, no, no. So naturally, that didn't satisfy him for too long, right? Because people get border porn. And in Japan at that time, they were not allowed to show a woman's pubic area. So basically, the part that he wanted to see the most was not available. So naturally, he sought out a new path. Ladies of the noche.
00:21:21
Speaker
And that path took him directly to... Ladies of the noche? No. Rape? No. I don't know what you're going with. Child porn. Because in that day, in Japan, there is no limit of what could be shown on a child. But they... Uh-huh.
Descent into Depravity
00:21:44
Speaker
Pause. I told you to fashion your seatbelt. Pause. Pause. So you're telling me...
00:21:50
Speaker
Japan had no laws on what you could see on a child being abused But mostly just naked so he's not looking So when you say I don't I don't exactly know If you looking at why I get pictures of children they can show I'm not okay with that, but that's better. You said top porn something about that's what the everything depicted of child pornography But I'm thinking like children being raped
00:22:16
Speaker
And that could have been involved in that. Yes, I am not sure. He couldn't have gotten some black market porn or he could have seen a grown woman's. I mean, this is 88. Right. I think that was the last thing that I gave at least a consensual decision. It's not America, sweetheart. That stuff was banned in Japan. But they're OK. Yeah. Let's just continue. So just just as a. A fun little side note, it wasn't until 2014.
00:22:47
Speaker
where it was deemed illegal and punishable in Japan to look at child porn or possess child porn. But they couldn't see a woman's hoo-ha. You're forgetting something. 2014. That's what I'm saying. But up until then, it's illegal to see a grown woman's hoo-ha on porn. But let's not outlaw children till 2014. Yeah.
00:23:10
Speaker
Hmm, cool. Oh, by the way, as long as it's manga comics or anime videos, it's still totally fine to show a naked child. Hmm. Any thoughts, anything you want? I've got a lot of thoughts, nothing I'm going to tell you, you're going to like the story. Japan, I'm I'm. Disappointed. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very upset right now.
00:23:40
Speaker
Like, OK, let's just want to move on. Let's bump it along here. I mean, you can chew on it for a minute if you'd like. You know, I don't know if that's going to help me digest that any better. I just think that it's weird.
00:23:56
Speaker
I just don't understand like how do you how is the law? Like, OK, kudos to you to say even in porn, you can't see the downstairs or whatever. They're consenting adults. You want to make porn illegal. Fine. You want to make. But here's illegal. Fine. People get around it. But why make why make exploiting a child so frack and easy? Here's my here's my answer to that. Here's my rebuttal.
00:24:19
Speaker
Most normal people will go with like 90% of most normal people generous can look at a naked child and Not be turned on by it. Why do you need to post pictures? Absolutely not but it's the same thing like when somebody posts or whatever and you think it's cute
00:24:38
Speaker
There's some wackadoo out there whacking off to that picture. No, I don't post that crap. Hell, no, I would never post that, but I don't even post my kid in a bathing suit anymore. I think it has more to do with.
00:24:51
Speaker
They don't believe in people being that kind of corrupt. I was going to say, you know what I'm saying? Like, no, I get like in the early 60s, 70s, 80s, whatever, when they made these laws, maybe then you don't come out as strong against child porn because you don't like in your mind, you want to believe that it aren't those that many sick people. But 80s, 90s, it was prevalent. I mean, it wasn't in your face. This is Japan in the early 80s. We have our late 80s. You have no idea what was going on at that point.
00:25:21
Speaker
people. I'm not going to justify it. You're justifying it right now. I'm not. I'm not. I disagree with it 110 percent. But what I'm saying is we always get into a culture debate on when in our earlier before we got stuck doing the 50 states of the freaking US. Sorry. OK. Which, by the way, I hate every state, including my own. And that'll pass eventually. All right. But
00:25:44
Speaker
You know, we always got into a conversation about what other cultures are like. Yeah. And I can't condemn another culture for one thing and accept it in a different culture. I can dim any because we exploitation. Yeah. Hard stance. I agree. Hard stance. I agree. Like that is the hill I would die on. There is nothing that justifies exploitation of a child in any shape, manner or form. And it's just weird that you would want to.
00:26:10
Speaker
I'll go so far as to say, I think kids, YouTube, most of those parents exploit their kids to make money. Yeah. I don't think that's right either because that's not a child's job. It's your job to get your lazy A up and go to work, not stick a camera in front of your child 24 seven to sell toys. Yeah. Well, I don't even just say that. Like it, I don't want my kid to be so exposed on the internet. No. To make them kind of famous. No.
00:26:36
Speaker
That's just my opinion. You all do whatever you want to do. My kid takes podcasts and YouTube videos. We just don't post them. You can hear in the room all the time. Hey, guys, it's me. And I'm like, there's nobody there. But I get my kid. I get the one. There are not multiple kids. There's the one kid and I'm done. Anyways, back to the story. I'm not OK with that still. I'm just letting you know. No, I'm not OK with it either. I think it's just highly of such an uncomfortable thing to talk about. And
00:27:04
Speaker
and I that that was actually happening at that point, so they had laws in place. Nobody wants to talk about it, but if you're going to make a law, make it a sweeping law, no female age, age shouldn't be a mat like. Well, it should be the same for men as well. Yeah, it should be definitely the same. But I don't remember who said it. I think it was Chris Pine, who is an actor here in America. He played on like the Star Trek's and stuff. And he did a movie where he showed Full Frontal.
00:27:33
Speaker
Why? Yeah. And so like they were doing an interview with them. I don't even want to see their husbands. Yeah. And they just. But they were. They were doing an interview with them. I believe it was on the Norton Graham show, which I love. He's hilarious. He is fantastic. He is a great British accent. He always he always has great questions. And when he starts laughing, man, it gets me.
00:27:52
Speaker
But he was talking about the thing and Chris Pine was like, honestly, he was like, I don't see why it's that big of a deal. My co-star here, who was the woman in the in the movie, they was like, she did a full frontal. Nobody bats an eye. I do a full frontal and it's all anyone can talk about. Is it just because men have been like, yeah, but nobody wants to see that. It's not even just that, but women.
00:28:15
Speaker
more intellectual stimulated than men are more visually stimulated. Well, I was going to say men have not been sexualized to the point of what women have been sexualized as true. But if men and women both sit down watching a show, a man wants to see, you know, the goods, whereas the woman wants to see the relationship and the character and the ass. So it's you're playing to your audience. I said the aspects. But yeah, sure. I like a good ass.
00:28:44
Speaker
That's America's ass right there. That's America's. OK, back on topic, back on the topic. No, I understand. I understand. Very just upset. All right. So now that we've gone off on our little tirade number 12, at least man, I'm like a paragraph in two paragraphs. I'll shut up for 30 minutes into the podcast. We are 30 minutes into the podcast. You just keep going. So.
00:29:10
Speaker
Eventually as these things tend to His obsession with child porn didn't cut it for me now This is gonna be my own throw out right here. Okay? People that watch a lot of porn mm-hmm lose interest in it Pretty quickly. Well, just can't get it in real life
00:29:35
Speaker
It's like watching the same movie every day. Yeah. Like, oh, it's a professor and a girl. Oh, it's a doctor. And it's the same. It's the same thing. And eventually, yeah, it gets old. I'm just saying. So again. Again, the point didn't do it for him anymore. So his evil, twisted little mind took him to the streets of Tokyo.
00:30:04
Speaker
Now we're going for ladies of the note. August 22nd, 1988, four-year-old Mari Kono was at a, I'm sorry, Mary Kono, was at a friend's house playing when Sitomo approached her and convinced the young girl to go with her. Him.
The Murders Begin
00:30:22
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He drove off until he reached a bridge in a wooded area where he parked.
00:30:26
Speaker
He claimed to have he claimed, guys, he confessed to this. To have sat with her for half an hour before he murdered her and molested her corpse. I specifically asked you last night if there were children involved and you specifically said no. I specifically didn't want to answer anything that you specifically asked me because I was warning their kids involved. You said we didn't have to do trigger warnings anymore. No, but kids are different. I know. And you know how much I love doing these stories.
00:30:55
Speaker
I'm punching you later. Don't do that. I like my face. Anyway, so he sexually assaulted the corpse. Yes, he dumped her in the hills that were close to his house and took her clothes with him. At some point, when her body was decomposing, he returned and removed her hands and feet, which he kept in his closet.
00:31:19
Speaker
Oh, took the remaining bones of little Mary and he burned them in his fireplace. He ground up what he could and sent the child's remains in a box to Mary's parents. What the why? With a postcard saying Mary. Bones investigate proof.
00:31:45
Speaker
And it's this story right here where everything that happened to him in his past is not justifiable to me anymore. On the one hand, kudos to him for not letting her parents look for her for the rest of their days. Because I feel like being in limbo, like if your child is taking and not knowing the result of that is worse than knowing. I want to use an F bomb. Because F that.
00:32:14
Speaker
If I got my child's ashes, with some of her teeth, no, no, nothing justifies what he did. Nothing makes it better, but at least her parents knew.
00:32:32
Speaker
Like they're not out searching the streets. They can, they can grieve and lay what's left of her. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. No, it's not like they just move on. And I'm going to be honest with you too. Like it's going to be hard regardless, but at least hope can keep somebody alive. See I'm the different, I'd have no hope. I would think she has been raped every single day. I've heard so many parents say,
00:32:57
Speaker
It is the worst thing in the world for a parent to outlive their child. Yeah, 100%. I don't mind disagreeing with what you're saying. To have a definitive, like, we found the body. I just know in my mind, I would make it like what she's living through day to day, I would torture myself with that. So knowing that she's passed, in my mind, I feel like I would be like I would be medicated probably for the rest of my life.
00:33:26
Speaker
I'd probably very, very short life, but knowing that she's, instead of just torturing myself with what's happening, like, are they feeding her right now? Is she cold? Does she have clothes? Are they abusing her? Like, what's going on? Like, just having to think that. You don't have to. There's an end to that portion of the suffering, like mental suffering, but gosh, that opens up a whole nother thing.
00:33:56
Speaker
What a trash bag. Yeah. Wow. October 3rd, 1988, seven year old Misami Yoshizawa. Oh good, there's more.
00:34:13
Speaker
was walking on the side of the road when the devil, I mean, Tsutomu pulled up in his car next to her and offered Mizani a ride. She took him up on it. There's not a whole lot of detail in this story, but he admitted to killing her and committing sexual acts on her corpse. Where did the corpse come into it at? I don't know.
00:34:41
Speaker
because I mean, like I know he killed them, but they didn't have to live through anything he did after that. But do we know that for a factor or just going on his word? I guess kind of going on his word because he's a trustworthy guy. But what would you rather admit to rape or necrophilia?
00:35:01
Speaker
I think I would rather admit to necrophilia because then you think people are just gonna think you're, it's more of an, it's more of insanity plea. Whereas if you're saying you raped the child, you're gonna get, you've got people hating you based off that and the murder. Whereas if you murdered them and then, and you know what I mean? Totally his self-righteous way of getting what he wanted without causing them damage. You know what I mean? Like I know he killed them, but you don't know
00:35:30
Speaker
I want five minutes with him. Five minutes. That's all I need. December 12th, 1988, four-year-old Erika Namba was walking home from her friend's house when this time, Satomu wasted no time trying to convince the child to come with him. He just straight up grabbed her and forced her into her car. He drove to a parking lot where he made Erika take her clothes off while he took photos.
00:35:58
Speaker
When he was finished with his stupid photos, he took her life, bound her hands and feet behind her back, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in her trunk, in his trunk. He got rid of her clothes in a wooded area by the parking lot, drove to the parking lot next door and got rid of her body. Erica's body was discovered three days later on December 20th. Erica's family got a postcard
00:36:25
Speaker
In the mail that read Erica, cold, cough, throat, rest, death. He really can't string along a sentence, Katie. Literally just one word each time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One word period. So really, you know. June 6th, 1989, five year old. He's sending postcards. They don't have any like
00:36:54
Speaker
People over there to investigate. Still looking at 80, 80, 89. Call the FBI. It's Japan. I don't care. Send them over there. They have an international unit on TV. OK. I think we need to have a talk. The things that you see on TV aren't real. They're based on real life all the time. Faith.
00:37:22
Speaker
The things that you see on TV aren't real. Next you're going to tell me everything on Google isn't true, too. Not crap. What about Wikipedia? This is going a lot deeper. This is going a lot deeper. A lot deeper than it needs to go. Oh, sorry. I just needed a break from all the children being maimed. Oh, my gosh. Do they at least catch him and give the parents, like, they sign a petition or at least submit him a scare? I mean, do you want me to just end the story now? No. Yes. Maybe.
00:37:50
Speaker
June 6th. Oh, sweet Mary. 1985, five year old Ayako Nomoto. I thought we were just in 88. Yeah, but now we're June 6th, 89. Oh, I thought you said nine. OK. 1989. Is that not what I said? I thought you said 1985. I don't know. I meant to say 89. Five year old. You could have. I could have just heard five year old. Just continue. Ignore my talk. I'll unplug my mic. Cool. I don't need to agree with that now.
00:38:21
Speaker
Mm hmm. Five year old Ayaku no Nemoto. See, I had it right the first time. I was playing outside when Tsutomu approached her and asked if he could take her picture. She agreed and he led her to his car where he murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet, put her in his trunk. This time. Ayaku's Ayako. Ayako's body.
00:38:52
Speaker
was taken to his apartment where he spent two days committing sexual assault. He took pictures and videos of this poor girl's remains in multiple positions. As her body started to decompose, this devil dismembered her and left her torso in a cemetery and her head in some nearby hills. He kept her hands, he drank the blood of her hands, and then he cannibalized them.
00:39:18
Speaker
Eventually, Satomu got scared that somebody would find the rest of the body that he had disposed of, so he went back to the cemetery and to the hills and got the rest of her and brought it back to his apartment where he hid it in his closet. Did anyone smell it and call the cops? Is this when he gets busted? Does he get put to death by a firing squad? July 23rd, 1989, Satomu approached two sisters.
00:39:48
Speaker
He managed to talk the younger sister into going with him while the older sister stayed behind. Witness! He convinced the younger sister to disrobe and started taking pictures of her, but the older sister did not stay put for very long. In fact, she ran and got her dad. Good girl! The sister's father ran up and caught Satomu in the act of taking nude photos of his daughter in full-on attack Satomu.
Capture and Arrest
00:40:10
Speaker
But the slippery bastard got away. Dang it! Did you get a license plate? Is there anything? Satomu...
00:40:18
Speaker
Hang on. So Tomo waited a little while and then went back to the park for his car. The car was there? Yes, what he took to get there. The police literally have been waiting. He literally ran away from the dad. It better have been waiting. The dad, some I'd have the cops were just sitting there waiting for him to arrive. Were they really? Yeah, like a freaking moth to a flame, buddy. He went back for his car.
00:40:45
Speaker
During the search of his apartment and there was not a lot and I went through. All kinds of crap to see what was there. Did they find the kids remains? Did they any of that out of respect for the families? I'd hope they wouldn't like put every graphic gory detail in the news. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like if that's my kid, just bare bones. Just just try him on the murder. I don't want the world to know everything else that happened in the pictures and.
00:41:12
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Yeah. So during the search of his apartment, they found 5,763 videos that he took, some of which consisted of horror movies, anime, and his own homemade videos of the girls that he abused. Do we know how many of those were the homemade videos? No, it was all cataloged as part of the 5,763 videos.
00:41:37
Speaker
Satomu's trial started in March of 1990. He attempted to convince the court that everything that he did was the fault of his alter ego, Ratman.
Trial and Mental State Inquiry
00:41:48
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Ratman forced him to kill. It's not Satomu's fault.
00:41:53
Speaker
He just did what he was told. Well, then rat man needs to go to jail, which means the Tomu goes with him. Hmm. During the course of his trial, the Tomu's father refused to play to pay his son's legal fees and he wound up killing himself in 1994. So Tomu did. No, so Tomu's father. Oh, the original rapist. The original rapist killed himself in 1994.
00:42:17
Speaker
So Tsutomu's trial went on for seven years because I bet his dirty little secrets got drug out in court and papers and everything else. I'll bet they did talk about shame to your family. You rapist piece of crap. Mm hmm. And not only were you a rapist piece of crap, you need to take responsibility for the kid you had with your own child. Yeah, yeah, I bet he did kill himself. Yeah. Coward, all that dishonor.
00:42:43
Speaker
He is a coward. Good word. Well, he is. He didn't want to stand up. He didn't want to face the ridicule of his peers and he didn't want people to know what he did. So he's just going to leave his wife and his children to suffer that. Yeah, by themselves. Yeah. Oh, I'm really. How does the trial take seven years? Well, let me tell you why. Do they have juries like with real people?
00:43:11
Speaker
For the seven years this trial went on, it went back and forth on Satomu's mental state. Lock him up either way. In Japan or I'm sorry, in Japanese law, people of unsound minds cannot be punished and people that are feeble minded get a reduced sentence. So they just get left back out in the population? Yeah, I don't know. No, I really don't. I have no idea. Put him in like a minstrel institution. Do they have those?
00:43:41
Speaker
So he's a danger to any child. He comes into contact with. Oh, yeah. And he killed them, raped them and ate them. And like he was getting worse and worse. Yeah. Like it went. You know what I'm saying? Like he was digressing quickly. But and he was taunting family. Like that's not someone you let back out in society. I don't care their mental state.
00:44:05
Speaker
I feel like if they ever did leave him, like, let him back out in society, the people would just kill him. Yeah, okay. I'm just saying. New, new, new thought process. New petition. Let him back out in society. Because I guarantee, dad, we're just gonna roll, we're gonna roll these dice. We're just gonna see what happens, guys. And if I'm the dad being brought on trial, temporary insanity.
00:44:27
Speaker
100% gotta let me off. I could not see clear with the That is dead himself. No, well the doubts of the parent victims. Yes. Oh Gosh, I'm okay continue. Yeah, dude. So back and forth they went They had multiple court appointed psychiatrists hired for his case and all of them had different diagnosis, of course they did so one said he was feeble-minded and
00:44:55
Speaker
Another saying that he was schizophrenic and the last one saying that he had multiple personality disorder I'm saying he is a deranged Individual that needs to be locked up for other safety I think honest to God this kid went through so much as a child He was never taught empathy. He was never taught sympathy. He was only taught how to fend for himself and
00:45:24
Speaker
Things that were teaching him were anime and horror movies. He brainwashed himself. No, it does not. He does. No, I mean, you've been back and forth on this a hundred thousand times. OK, this is so if I'm going to blame anybody. Yes. If I'm going to blame anybody, I'm going to blame the parents. He was completely right handed. Dad and his grandmother or his dad and his sister, Mama. That's what I'm saying. The blame goes in all directions. Nobody gave a shit about this kid.
00:45:51
Speaker
OK. And he sought out his own way. His own way became more and more disturbing like it always does. Yeah. OK. You can't just leave a kid to raise themselves. No. It just doesn't. It's not going to turn out well for anybody. Yeah. OK. So the toast the Tokyo District Court considered all of the
00:46:12
Speaker
hogwash that went back and forth and still held Satomo accountable.
Execution and Conclusion
00:46:18
Speaker
Good. He was finally put to death in 2008 where he was hung for his crimes. I'm not sorry that that happened. I don't really feel bad either. Because he would have just kept doing it. Yeah. I feel sorry for the life he led up into that point. I feel sorry for the disregard, the neglect, the abuse, but that doesn't justify. There's still no place for him here. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying that to be like,
00:46:43
Speaker
a douchebag at all. Okay. Because I understand that people suffer. Yeah. But I also know that everyone has a choice and it's the path that you choose. Yeah. And I know it's different for, you know, if he was, you know, uh, feeble minded or
00:47:04
Speaker
sociopath right or schizophrenic Wrong word guys. Sorry Or had multiple personality disorder. I mean, I know that's probably a different a different ballgame But like but he's still not safe to be out in public. Yeah, like it's still not safe for other people Right Well
00:47:30
Speaker
I am still not happy. I know. But you know what? It's a story. No, you know what? There is no silver lining. Because you're looking at a kid who grew up in hell. He was shown no compassion. He was shown no mercy. Who grew up to be an adult? Who showed no compassion and no mercy?
00:47:58
Speaker
And basically, I think the only reason you took it out on kids is because maybe he wasn't physically able, able, able. That's a new word. Okay. Physically able to take it on, take on an adult. You know what I'm saying? And plus he had, he'd already built up these huge fantasies about kids in his head.
00:48:25
Speaker
I don't know how to move past like hearing any story when it comes to kids. Like I know there are a lot of people out there that are probably like, well, you know, like you look at this case and you're like, this kid grew up in hell. He grew up in hell. How can you blame him for that? Because they were his actions. Yeah. And that's how I feel about it. Like it's because how can I blame him? Watch me. Well, I think like it's the same principle as and it makes no sense to me, but
00:48:54
Speaker
I don't know the exact percentages, but if you are abused as a child, your likelihood of being an abuser later in life is stronger than, but you hated the abuse as a child. So how do you then turn around and do the thing that you hated? Like that makes no logical sense to me. Because it's easy. I think it's like an easy path. Like, I don't know faith. Honestly, that's not even a really good answer. I think.
00:49:22
Speaker
Maybe it all boils down to mental strength. You know what I'm saying? You could talk about, we've had this conversation before, you can have twin brothers who grew up in a family of alcoholism where dad beat them and did whatever, A, B, C, and D. Brother one moves out, becomes a doctor. Brother two marries his wife, beats her, and drinks all night. Nobody knows. Yeah.
00:49:47
Speaker
It's your it's your self perception. What you view yourself as like you can you can view yourself as the scum of the earth and believe that everything everything that people say about you or. You know, you can choose to give the world the middle finger and say I can do this anyway. Well, it's the old adage. If you put a potato in water and you put an egg in boiling water, the egg is going to get harder to crack and the potato is going to get softer. So it's the same. It's the same environment. It's what they're made out of. Yeah.
00:50:16
Speaker
And it's it. I don't know. Well, I'm not happy anymore. Yeah. Sad and depressed now. Well, yeah, yeah, it's pretty shitty story. It's pretty bad. But stories like these. Like, I mean, you need to know. You know, and I know it was back in like the 80s and
00:50:48
Speaker
You know, people are very trusting, but I don't feel like being a helicopter mom is that bad anymore. Oh, no, I will never apologize for being a helicopter mom. Yeah. Ever. It's me, my mom, we're actually talking about it a couple of days ago. It was over the weekend. My son was going around the block like literally, it's maybe a house or two down.
00:51:12
Speaker
OK, I will lose sight of him to get to the house. Yeah. But I let him ride his bike over to the house. And she's like, I just don't like it. Yeah, we grew up in Boston. Frankie and I were talking about this this weekend, too. And I said something about how the reason why Bella was on her phone when he came last time we were recording was because Caleb was playing with his friends and she got her feelings hurt. So she didn't want to play with him. And he was like, well, what do you mean he was playing with friends? And I was like, he was out riding bikes and he was like,
00:51:40
Speaker
What do you mean? And I was like, oh, you don't know. Your sister lets him ride around in the neighborhood with his friends and I started laughing. And he was like, you're serious right now. And I was like, yeah, I don't understand. They were they were coming from up that way by John's house. That's where the other parent lives. You don't know where those kids are going. You're telling me they're judging me as a mom right now on a podcast. I am. No, I would never judge another mother's actions. I'm saying is very uncharacteristic of you. It is. But here's the deal.
00:52:11
Speaker
Caleb is nine. Mm hmm. And he he has to learn how to be responsible. And I'll be lucky if she's 16 and I'm not in the back of her trunk like. But what was my call anybody? And I'm also another another mom. That's like if he wants to go climb the tree, he needs to climb the tree. He needs to learn how to do dangerous things. Yeah, I'm OK with all that. But I'm going to be there. But I also have a girl and you have a boy. What's not even just the girl versus a boy thing. I know where he is at all times.
00:52:42
Speaker
There's a tracking device. No, I'm kidding. But I'm not. Anyways, if he doesn't have that innate feeling to fly the coop one day, I'm going to be stuck with a 92-year-old roommate. I'm kidding. I need him to be able to make good choices and trust him enough to be responsible on his own.
00:53:10
Speaker
I will go back to the old staying. It's not that I don't trust him as I don't trust other people. Yeah, that's true. But at the same time, main throw away rules like in the way and they will never go that way. Makes me nervous. It does make me nervous. It scares the crap out of me sometimes. But here's the deal, Faith. I can keep him wrapped up in this world and never let him have any fun or I can teach him how to do things safely.
00:53:37
Speaker
You'll get there eventually. Your daughter is going to have friends. It's going to meet people. And it's just in the neighborhood. So it's not. I had to learn how to let go. I live right by the interstate. No way, dude.
00:53:55
Speaker
Well, apparently my mother cards being revoked. It is not. It's just very unlike you. And you have to admit it's unlike you. Like he was just shocked. It is unlike out of you. Like just that it was you. Yeah, it is. It is very much. It's not a judge. It's knowing you.
00:54:14
Speaker
Like I can see he was like Lisa that main stretch. He goes. So mom let him go ride before Lisa got home. And I was like, no, Lisa knew about it. And he was like, and she was OK with it. And I was like, all the people in this world that wouldn't let Caleb go out and ride, it would be my mom.
00:54:30
Speaker
I wasn't allowed to go to the mall by myself until I was 35. OK, you come over to my house, which is like five miles down the road. And if it gets dark outside, your dad's calling. He's like, well, yeah, I start screaming. She's a frickin adult. Right. Even Frank, you can't say crap. We used to run the neighborhood to newer kids.
00:54:49
Speaker
But that's neither here nor there. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't a judgment. It's just knowing you. They were. They are always within eyeshot of the adults. Like again, it's not a judgment call. Like I don't I try. I do. OK, I'm a big judge. Let's be honest. I judge everybody for everything.
00:55:05
Speaker
It's just part of my personality. Because I like to. But it's not like you're a bad mom. It's just surprising knowing you. I also have a lot of conversations with Caleb about what to expect out of an adult. And adults don't ask children for help. Nope. OK. And these are things that I hammer into him to let him know, like it's not OK. And I've had I've had instances where I've been put in a situation
00:55:33
Speaker
And I can use it as a teachable moment because Caleb was there with me. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like the fishing guy you told us.
00:55:40
Speaker
fishing guy member when it's been multiple, like, keep your eyes open for people that are just watching maybe a little bit too much or whatever. But I was at a grocery store and some weirdo guy. Yeah. And you said, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's the same thing. You know, adults don't ask children for help and grown ass men don't approach a mother with her child and ask for a ride. Like, correct. You got to be smart about things. Correct.
00:56:09
Speaker
I just wanted to, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't that we were judging you. I'm gonna need you to edit out this entire thing. Why? Now I feel bad about myself. What? It's not, it's not. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. That's what I said. Just reiterate. It's not that we were judging you, it's just that he was shocked. Me of all people. You're as bad of a hover as I am. Yeah, worse. Which is how I knew I needed to finally like take a deep breath and be like, the kid is smart. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So.
00:56:40
Speaker
Hmm. Anyways, guys, my story tonight, probably not nice. In the end, he did get his. Like we said, I like when it is that way comfortable, but it happens. And if you're not aware about it, you don't fight against it. Yeah. Putting your head in the sand, not going to help anything. No. You know, I mean, you got to watch over your kids and you got to protect them with every fiber of your being. Even those that aren't nowadays, nowadays, even worse. Oh, yeah.
00:57:09
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? I can't even in public, if he's not holding on to my shopping cart or riding on the front of my shopping cart where I can see him.
00:57:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah, there is no one. There's no. And like I remember when I was a kid, like you would hide in a clothes rack. Oh, yeah. And my mom wouldn't lose her mind. My mom did. I did it in Boston, though. Oh, yeah. We were in a one. I got the beating of all. We were in a one horse town called Jennings, Louisiana that had one. No, I was like a Macy's up in Boston. There was nothing. There wasn't even a mall in Jennings. There's still not. There's a Walmart like that said.
00:57:47
Speaker
And a Mr. Gatties, like those are the two big things in a show nice. But so like you hide there, like my mom is very calm and collective. She yell, yell. You got three seconds. I'm beating your butt. If Bella went missing, there would not be like one, two, three. It's nine, one, one. Yeah, immediately. Yeah. And you know what? I'd rather raise a false flag of alarm than not do anything, not act quick enough. But because I mean,
00:58:16
Speaker
pedophiles and crap people have already existed, always existed. It's not even it's not even just the pedophile and crap people. It's the human trafficking thing now. Yeah. Where I was including that with the pedophiles. Oh, all right. Well, I mean, because the people that abduct them faith aren't necessarily pedophiles, just selling their living. They're selling them to pedophiles.
00:58:37
Speaker
But my thing is, is like that's always existed. It's just in your face so much more now because of the media and social media and awareness. People in general are more willing to stand up and talk about it. Whereas before, nobody wants to talk about it. Oh, wow. All right. Well.
00:58:58
Speaker
Have a great night. This was not a feel good episode, but it's a true crime podcast. We OK. Hey, guys, next week, it's going to do story about Barney. We're going to sing a song.
00:59:12
Speaker
But I just get in trouble. They all do. But you know what I mean? Like last week's, I felt like last week's was good. Like you can. It wasn't heartfelt. They murdered their spouses. OK, yeah, I get that. And the one guy with the bones, bad be a sad. But like there was some there was some. There was a survivor story that's different.
00:59:35
Speaker
But you know, but you know what I mean? Like there's don't be a bitch be a bad. Yeah, you kind of left on it. Like there was some banter at the beginning of this episode, but you can't end on a happy note with this episode. No, no, we did end on a happy note. He's dead. Yeah, that that's the happy note. But like it's not a feel good in like you kind of want to go cry yourself to sleep and put your kid like attached to your body. Like even for a parent.
01:00:01
Speaker
Like, even though the guy's gone, he's dead, he's gone. Nothing remains, he's decomposing in the ground. It doesn't, it doesn't. That's the point. Nothing remains. Their child is gone. Their lineage is gone. That whole future is gone. Like, there's no happy. And, like, I know how people can always go back to the point where, like, what's it gonna do, even if we kill him? Those kids are still gonna be gone, or those people are still gonna be gone.
01:00:26
Speaker
It's going to justify for me that he's not going to ever do it again. Yeah, it's going to save other kids. Here's my thing. OK, this is what I have a hard trouble with a hard time with. Yeah, no, I can't speak. That's all right. So on certain podcasts.
01:00:40
Speaker
like us when we're recording. There are certain episodes like last week where, you know, we ended on a high five, dad's the man, feels pretty good. On episodes like this where it's like super heavy, I have a hard time just being like, peace, because I feel like we've just emotionally traumatized people. And yes, it's a true crime podcast, so that's why they're here. But on the other hand, I ramble trying to make sure they're emotionally healthy by the time we leave, even though that's not possible. Is that weird?
01:01:09
Speaker
But I don't know that that's weird. I just like I'm not holding their hand. I'm not making it like, are you OK, Jimmy Sue? Like, that's not what I'm doing. But on the other hand, I feel like if I just talk for a few minutes, like they have a time to breathe before we're like, OK, deuces. OK, so like, you know what I do if I watch like a movie that really traumatizes me.
01:01:31
Speaker
I'll I will make sure I have enough time to watch some cartoons before I go to sleep. But I don't feel like watching a children's program is the best medicine right now. There are other kinds of court. No. Anime. Anime. Is that what? Oh, my God, Lisa. Oh, my God. All right. All right. All right. Hearing process over for people who are just retraumatized. Pick up a good book. Harry Potter. Go for a walk.
01:01:57
Speaker
Yeah, go for a walk. A children's book, Lisa. Have a couple shots of vodka. I don't know. I mean, it could be whiskey. That might be your thing. I don't know either way. I'm just I'm just trying to explain. Like, that's why I keep talking and don't let the episode in. I think you just like talking because you like hearing yourself. I do. But I just feel I do.
01:02:16
Speaker
I do like talking, but I just I don't want to just be like, here's this horrific murder of a child. You're emotionally scarred. Have a good night's sleep. I feel like we have to. But at least ramble for a little bit. At least it wasn't a lethal injection where they don't feel anything. He was hung. Yeah, there was some work there. It feels still feel like that depends on if the vertebrae's all break. I want like medieval torture. I told you what I tell you yesterday when I was teasing you.
01:02:47
Speaker
I said, you're you're going to come up with some things, right? I just feel like he should be left into the with a pair of despair. I don't know what they call it. We can shove it up his butt. It's not called the pair of despair. It is now. It is now.
01:03:06
Speaker
All right, I'm gonna shut my mic off. Faith, you keep going. All right, guys. Well, I know this is a rough one. And if you hang on through all the rambling, I'm sorry. But I just feel like it's our duty to kind of talk you through till you're in a slightly better headspace.
01:03:21
Speaker
And the pair of despair did it. So on that note, we'll see you next week. Have a great night, a great week. And, uh, yeah, we'll post pictures on some kind of social media. Sorry. I was trying to say Spotify and I got really, you know, we don't post things on Spotify except the cast. All right. And on that note, yeah, we'll be opening up a part of the night. OK, I'm done. Bye. Bear for you. Bye.