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E40 · TwistedTales: a True Crime Podcast
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Tonight Lisa is telling us a story that is hard to believe and wrap your brain around. How much does peer pressure affect us? What are we willing to do in order to make others happy? How far is too far, when an authority figure is telling you what to do? 

These are questions we we look at and discuss as Lisa tells us the story from the docuseries 'Don't Pick Up The Phone' where a hoax caller phones fast food restaurants across the United States, convincing the managers to do unspeakable things - all because he states he is someone in authority.

 

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Podcast Introduction and Excitement for 2023

00:00:06
Speaker
Well hello and welcome to 2023 late. Late. Well we recorded some early. You know. Well I mean you know. It's late. Yeah. 2023 has been a minute. It's been. Yeah. But welcome to 2023. This is our first recording in 2023. We missed you guys. Yes definitely. Definitely.
00:00:30
Speaker
And if you don't know already, I'm assuming the clip art you clicked on gave it away. But this is Twisted Tales with Faith and Lisa, who's very excited to be alive. And our story tonight is going to be from Lisa. So I'm sorry. I'm I'm excited to be alive. I don't know. You're like, I don't remember. So I don't know. That was first of all, we can rewind later that we can rewind. Yeah, keep talking. Keep talking. It's great. It's wonderful. I love it when you do that. Yeah.
00:01:01
Speaker
I'm not. Welcome back to Twisted Tales, guys.

Story Preview: Deviating to Kids

00:01:07
Speaker
I'm going to be honest with you, it's my it's my turn tonight. And what I am about to discuss is so far on the opposite spectrum of what I normally do. But I couldn't not do it. It's about kids, isn't it?
00:01:25
Speaker
No, well, well, well.

Teenage Decision-Making and High School Stories

00:01:29
Speaker
OK, so I wanted to name this episode W to it WTF. Easy for you. And yeah, I know that was terrible. Don't know my own words. That's letters, but tomato.
00:01:49
Speaker
Damn it. You know, woman, you're not very good at this topic. Listen, knowledge and knowledge. All right, so.
00:02:03
Speaker
I can't even go on. You're just the worst. And we haven't seen each other in like two weeks. I know. It's been a minute. It's been a while. I know. It's like we have so much to catch up on, like, hey, or what are you doing today? I've talked to you most times today. Nothing to catch up on. I just haven't seen your mouth to go along with the word. Touche. Touche. All right, so. I have this this line, this little paragraph typed out and I'm going to read it verbatim.
00:02:31
Speaker
verbatim verbatim. Um, so I want you guys to put your, put your seatbelts on. All right. It's going to get, it's going to get weird. So I don't know where I was in the late 1990s, early 2000s. Um, I literally do not remember this story high school. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high school. Yeah. Oh, four for me. Yup. Um,
00:02:59
Speaker
But I don't remember ever hearing about the story that I'm about to tell you. OK. We're too into this. Was I was I under a rock faith? Probably. Probably. Was I just living out my misspent youth? More than likely. Well, teenagers don't listen to you like most. I was just going to say I was not into the the true crime rabbit hole yet. Yeah, no. I mean, not even now, but most most teenagers are blissfully unaware of what is horrible in the world. Oh, for sure.
00:03:29
Speaker
So I'm going to start out by asking when you were a kid and someone told you to do something. Not even not even a kid. OK. Expand the horizon. OK. When you were a like teenager and someone asked you to do something that you knew was wrong. But you did it anyway. You got busted by your parents. Yeah. And you got your butt busted. Right. Yeah. Right.
00:04:00
Speaker
And you never really like comprehended what the big deal was. Like, what's the big deal? Right. And then your parents always use some kind of a stupid statement like everyone else stepped up a bridge. Would you jump off exactly my reference in my notes? Yes, because every day, if your best friend told you to jump off a bridge, would you?

Inspiration from a Netflix Documentary

00:04:19
Speaker
So after going through and watching what I watched, I asked myself a question. Now, my response as a child to that question is, um, no, no, no, I'm not going to jump off a bridge. Yeah. No, that was fine. Or of course it was. I was always in an argument to the person. Such a crap bag.
00:04:46
Speaker
Um, but how many people actually said, yeah, like if they told me to like, I'd jump. I think, I mean, the sad reality is while your parent, every, I'm sure like 99.9% of parents has uttered that phrase before at least in every child, 99.9 are like, no, the sad reality is 99.9% of kids are going to jump off the dang bridge because all you want to do as a kid is fit in.
00:05:15
Speaker
true, but you have no idea where the story is about to go. I do not know. So I got this idea for the story because a coworker of mine. Yeah. Yeah. Actually told me about it. And he's like, hey, I watched this documentary over the holidays on Netflix and I think you'd like it. Yeah.
00:05:43
Speaker
And I was like, all right. So I literally after he explained it to me, went home and turned it on. No, did it on my lunch break. I started watching it on my lunch break and I got completely sucked in and. I'm going to convince all of our five listeners. In this podcast. You know that you guys need to go watch this show and I'll tell you the name of it when I'm done.
00:06:13
Speaker
OK. All right. So the title of the podcast is WTF. I mean, why you ask? Because as I watch this documentary,

Bizarre Incident at McDonald's

00:06:23
Speaker
I literally said that almost 500 times. Nice. Like I was. I like, like, I know you guys can't see my face, but I'm like, my mouth is a gate. Is this like Tiger King? Like what am I watching?
00:06:43
Speaker
No. OK. No. This is like. How? Seriously, what? Really, really? That's that's like pretty much everything that was going through my mind as I was watching the special. OK. So I'm going to start off and I'm going to tell you guys the first story. OK. And that's it. And I'm not going to tell you how it ends.
00:07:13
Speaker
But you're going to I'm not going to tell you, right? Oh, yeah, I'll tell you when I'm done. OK, yeah. But I'm not really going to give you any like super. Information like this is I tried to research this and the only thing that pops up is the Netflix.
00:07:30
Speaker
series that's what sucks about like if they if they make like a based on a true story or whatever and they turn it into a movie like when you try to research this stuff all you can find is that you can't find anything else yeah even even like wikipedia was very you know whatever but you might understand that more after we do the after i tell you
00:07:51
Speaker
What this is about all right? I'm ready so set go April 9th 2004 ooh a detective that's like literally when you graduated you said I know yeah, I met you 2004 oh snap. Yeah, yeah, oh No wonder we weren't paying attention to the real world We're our bubble putting on prom dresses and going rolling people's houses
00:08:13
Speaker
yes and window markers and then that one moment where I accidentally ran into that one guy's car at the gas station it was like yeah you did like getting the car relieving
00:08:30
Speaker
Why did we put on prom dresses to do these things? I don't know. I think it just felt like a good idea at the time. Like we just want to go. Sometimes you want to be fancy. Yeah. You want to be fancy and toilet, people like toilet, people, toilet, people, toilet, people, people. I saw a TikTok the other day and this lady was like, here's the deal.
00:08:48
Speaker
My daughter's four, she shows her and she was like, and we're going out to dinner. And I'm like, Hey, go get dressed. And she put on a princess dress to go out. And the whole time, everybody's like, Oh, look, it's Elsa. It's Ariel. It's a princess. Hi, your majesty. And she goes, Oh, we're just at like, you know, Olive Garden or Applebee's or wherever. Right. And she goes, but if I want to dress fancy, people's like, what's wrong with you? Sorry.
00:09:12
Speaker
She goes, nobody's going to call me Elsa. Everyone's going to call me. Yeah, I want to put on a price and I forgot that we do what he wanted to be. We do it now that moms are like grabbing their kids heads. They're like, look this way. It's a lady of the night. Yeah, I feel like we should normalize.
00:09:31
Speaker
fancy evening wear for no purpose. Besides, you know, window marketing people's cars, a mischief, mischief, mischief. We did cause a lot of mischief anyway. It was a good time. Anyway, April 9th, 2004. Yes. Detective from the Mount Washington Police Department got a call from one of the colleagues of his telling him that there was something going on at the McDonald's. And that he didn't really know what to do. And so he asked the detective to come out
00:10:02
Speaker
just kind of check things out for you for himself. That's not a lot of information to go off of. Yeah. So the detective goes and when he arrives, he walks in and it literally looked like business as usual. OK, so like you imagine the McDonald's, right? You walk in and there's the restaurant. There's some people sitting and eating. People just still taking orders doing the whole night. Right. Yeah.
00:10:26
Speaker
But as he went into the back, there were managers visibly upset and a young girl who was completely beside herself. And what I could only guess was humiliation, anger, sadness and basically completely overwhelmed by what had just happened. OK, so the detective starts interviewing everybody. OK, he doesn't even know what's going on. You know what's going on? No, he's trying to figure out what's going on.
00:10:56
Speaker
OK. I'll basically just just just listen. You got to listen because I can't I can't get too in depth because you have to watch this. You have to. OK. All right. So, uh, yeah, he starts interviewing everybody. It was complete chaos. But all he could really make out of what the situation was. Was that there was this phone call that occurred.
00:11:26
Speaker
There's an SVU episode about this. Maybe. No, 100%. There was an SVU episode like years ago where someone kept calling fast food chains and being all creepy. Keep listening. Okay. I'm listening. All right. So one of the other officers that were on the scene at the time said, Hey, listen, buddy, there's a video of everything that went down.
00:11:54
Speaker
So the detective was like, OK, well, I'm done talking to people. Let me see the video. I want to see the video. Right. So the video didn't have any sound. Super helpful. I'm sorry, guys. Allergies Knoxville. Beautiful. So he what he saw was assistant manager who was on on duty at the time. And it was 51 year old Donna Summers who got a phone call.
00:12:23
Speaker
Okay. According to Donna, the man on the line told her that he was an officer from the Mount Washington police department. You can't do that. He told her that he had corporate on the line with him as well. Like corporate McDonald's? Yeah, like corporate McDonald's. Okay. Okay. Um, she, he proceeded to tell Donna that one of her employees had been accused of stealing money from a customer.
00:12:52
Speaker
So the man on the line gave Donna a description of a small girl with brunette hair. And she was like, oh, my God, I know who it is. And so Donna went and grabbed 18 year old Louise Osborn. That's not nice. You don't know that. And asked her to go into the back with her. Because she needed to talk to her. OK. All right.
00:13:19
Speaker
So Donna supposedly stole from a customer. So Donna then started to explain to Louise that there was an officer on the phone telling her that she had been accused of stealing this money from a purse from a customer, blah, blah, blah. Now, as an 18 year old girl whose age now considers her an adult, right? I can like only imagine
00:13:48
Speaker
like where her head is that, OK? Because in my personal opinion, I don't care if you're 18 or you're 17, 16, you're still in the same for a month. Your stomach has dropped. No, you could be in your 20s and you feel. Yeah.
00:14:02
Speaker
Yeah. Like, what do you do? Because there's no way to prove it. Not even a little bit. If the manager makes her take her clothes off, this is so the SVU episode. I'm just going to throw that out there now. So I can only imagine that the girl's stomach dropped. She didn't steal anything. But how do I get them to believe me? I feel like all of us have gotten in trouble at one point or another. And we all respond in a different way. Right.
00:14:27
Speaker
Some people get pissed. Right. Just completely furious. And there's no settling you down. OK. Some people just shut down completely. Right. Right. And then some people ramble and just beg. Some people are angry. There's a whole spectrum of emotion. Yeah, shit. Those are one bad word. Sorry. There's one more. Anyways, but I feel like the root cause of all of that emotion, no matter what follows is fear.
00:14:57
Speaker
Yeah. Like you're scared to death because you have absolutely no idea what's going on. So Donna is still on the phone with this man and he says to her, can we come down there and we can arrest her or you can help us handle this on your own. And so Donna was like, yeah, well, you know, we can just do this here, whatever. And
00:15:25
Speaker
The guy was like, OK, well, you can conduct a strip search. SVU. Really? I don't remember this. I do. Mm hmm. I remember this 100 percent. So. Not really. They discuss it. Right. Right. And they're like, yeah, well, we'll just do the strip strip search here. And if she's innocent, she's innocent. Right. Right.
00:15:50
Speaker
And so the guy's like, all right, cool. I'll walk you through it. So here's this young girl turning out all her pockets, taking off her shoes. No. When another manager walks in with black garbage bags and starts to like tape them around like the windows and stuff in the around the area so that nobody can see it. OK. So they all know this is happening and they're all OK with it. Yeah. Really? If it had been a few months before, she'd have been illegal.
00:16:22
Speaker
All right. Okay. I'm listening again. I am not one to advocate for a show because I don't care. But I watched this and my mouth stayed a gate. Okay. Okay. I'm there. All right. Anyways, so
00:16:44
Speaker
lady tapes up all the crap on the windows. Right. And then they're like, now take off your shirt and your bra and your pants and so on. And so now this girl is completely naked.
00:16:56
Speaker
What? In the manager's office at McDonald's. No. The managers gave her an apron to cover herself up. Oh, because that's all. Why can't she put her clothes back on? The man on the phone told them to take the clothes, take her keys, like Louise's keys, take her clothes and walk them to the car and put them in the car. OK, so now Louise is literally sitting there naked.
00:17:20
Speaker
with nowhere to go, okay? Because she can't run. What in the manager's mind thinks any cop is gonna say, take her clothes and go lock them in her car? Like logically, that's not, no. Show me a bag, come down here and show me a bag. You're 51 years old, use your common frickin' sense. Yeah. I'm doing good tonight, because I'm not making a comment, because you need to go watch it.
00:17:49
Speaker
Anywho, so now she has zero clothes on. Besides the apron and she can't run. OK, she's literally in the manager's office. OK, so the only escape route she has is through a restaurant full of people and she naked.
00:18:08
Speaker
Oh, if I was her parent, I would be beating that woman. So the detective watching this video was absolutely horrified by what he was saying. That's not real. OK, so he described Louise's situation saying she was a prisoner in her place of employment and that he could see in her face that she was not only terrified, but traumatized. McDonald's, I bet it paid for the rest of her life. Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
00:18:34
Speaker
She owns the couple of McDonald's now. You got to watch it. OK, I'm just going to say it. All right. So I'm going to keep going and you're going to stop talking. I'm probably not, but I know you're not. I know you're not. So here's this little girl. OK, and I say little only because now I'm 30. God, how old are 38 and my 38?
00:18:57
Speaker
I don't know. You're all this dirt. Yeah. Yeah. Things are falling off. That's anyway. All right. So like when you think about it now, like now I'm an adult, right? But at 18, you're like, I'm an adult. You know, but no, you know, you're not near. No, you're naive and you're dumb and you make bad choices like that's just where that's where you're at. But this poor, poor girl is still literally suffering through a like
00:19:28
Speaker
As a woman. She's being violated. Yeah, 100 percent, 100 percent. I'm telling you, if I was her parent, oh my God, that would be honest, but but you know, like everyone's like, oh, well, you know, you know, 18 year olds are adults. No, barely. Not even. No, because they still can't make a cognitive choice. They can't even. They can't even drink yet or smoke legally. Right. Right. You can vote.
00:19:57
Speaker
and join the army. That's sad. Oh, anyways. So like I said, dude was like WTF. What am I watching? Right. And so at this point, the video showed a middle aged man walk into the back room with Louise.
00:20:22
Speaker
He had on no uniform or any kind of... Is this the guy that was supposedly on the phone? Anything. No. Nothing that dictated he worked for McDonald's. Okay? Who is this person? This was a man who took over the phone call. Okay? Like, at the McDonald's side? Mm-hmm.
00:20:45
Speaker
So this random middle aged guy is now the guy on the phone with the supposed car from the Mount Washington Police Department. I'm guessing he was the supposed cop at the beginning and now he's just talking to himself. Well, you could keep listening or.
00:21:04
Speaker
Oh, you're really dragging this out. I need more details. I know. It's amazing. This is kind of why I told you you were going to hate this entire podcast. Yeah. So more than usual. The man on the phone. Told the man in the room, right? Tell the girl to drop the apron. No. Have her do junk jumping jacks again. No. Tell her to shake. The money could fall out of anywhere. What?
00:21:32
Speaker
Oh, Em. Right. Right. Right. What's the first thing you think right now? WTF WTF?

Escalation and Exploitation

00:21:40
Speaker
What's she supposed to do? Start doing squats and like the Harlem Jake thingy. OK, I wish you guys could have seen that.
00:21:50
Speaker
That was amazing. No comment. I'm going to keep going. All right. So good. The money could fall out of anywhere. Do the Macarena. The money could fall out of anywhere, Faith. There is no money, you dipweed. Now, this conversation has gone on.
00:22:10
Speaker
for two hours. Are you a flipping kid? No. And there's. I am so dead. But you are doing things. Absolutely not. He should be in jail. And he better be. Oh, I'm punching you in the neck. So. The phone call has gone on for more than two hours now, right? Everyone's OK with this. Right. Right. OK.
00:22:36
Speaker
So every once in a while, the assistant manager, Donna, would walk back in and Louise would immediately cover herself back up with her apron. Um, that being said, Donna apparently had no idea what was going on. Right. Donna's an idiot. Yeah. Donna's gone record. Donna is a jerk and stupid. Agreed. I don't like Donna. 100% hundo. All right. So
00:23:04
Speaker
The man that took over the phone call was a man named Walter, okay? Walter sucks. From the background that the cops could gather on him, he was an upstanding citizen, Faith. He attended church. He coached a little league team. And he's a pervert. He was just a good guy. He was a good pervert. He was also Donna's fiance. Are you flapping? No, no. She's in on it. She knew this. No.
00:23:34
Speaker
She's. She called him for help. To interrogate a naked little girl. Uh huh. Donna needs to get curb stomped. So we're going to we're going to. You said curb stomped. She needs to get curbs. I have threatened curb stomping at my work like five times. And the first time I did it, my assistant was like, that's pretty violent. I was like, yeah, I just like the.
00:23:58
Speaker
I don't know why I would I'd be like that. I like the taste of it. I like the sound of the word curb stopping. But if I ever saw it in reality, I would probably just like throw up, right? But I don't know. It's just a good threat. Can you make that sound just that was messed up? Oh, sorry. Anyway, Donna, back to the video play. I cannot. Why? Why? So good old Walter keeps listening to the man on the phone.
00:24:27
Speaker
telling Luis to jump, run in place, stand on chairs so he could see her privates and make sure that there is no money shoved up. You know, then she did that for two hours. I would have said, no, you can call 911 and get the cops to come arrest me at the frickin loop or not. I told you I'm not giving my opinion tonight.
00:24:50
Speaker
I know. I know. Because there are so many things I want to say. I hate you. So many things I don't want to say. So, Mr. Walter even listened to the man on the phone when he told him to do a cavity search, I'm sure, to bend her over on his knee and spank her. According to the detective,
00:25:12
Speaker
You could see red marks on her behind that, because that's standard cop, the spanking, the spanking. What about Miranda rights? What about, what about like a lawyer? What about representation? What about anything? This is anybody with common sense or even stupid people who've watched TV before know this isn't real. It's 2004. You're not in the seventies. Do better idiots.
00:25:36
Speaker
This is, uh, no, this is the most difficult part of my life right now because I can't say anything. I can't because I said I wouldn't. Nope. I'm not. I'm done. No. I have thrown away the key face. All right.
00:26:00
Speaker
I'm upset. So the spanking, the spanking went on for 20 minutes. Are you fracking? No. After that, Walker or Walter, Walter, sorry, he is not Walker. Walker, Texas Ranger is a gym to the human population. This guy sucks in a stupid. Well,
00:26:26
Speaker
Yeah, she's lost her spot because her my brother came out. She would brother that I'm not married to. The other one has come out and is out and has taped up her. That's the worst. And of course, it was my kid. No, he said that. No, he said that was your kid. Oh, anyway. Of course, it was my kid.
00:26:49
Speaker
Oh, all right. Your house is not conductive. No, it's like if they could just leave me alone. Nobody does. Nobody leaves. I have no privacy. All right. Anyways, I'm leaving all that in.
00:27:03
Speaker
That's totally I don't care. That's fine. You guys can just build our family drama. So after the whole spanking fiasco, I would punch him in. Walter was instructed by the man on the phone to have naked 18 year old Louise sit on his lap so that he can check her breath to make sure she hadn't been drinking. She's been there for two hours. Then told him a drink. Oh, then told him.
00:27:31
Speaker
Louise needed to give him a kiss to make sure that she was free of booze. At what point do you not think, I'm being punk? Like you're a sheep if you, okay.
00:27:47
Speaker
And his fiance is just sitting there like, yeah, go ahead. I'm doing so good. I'm doing so good. Like you don't even know. Okay? Like I just went totally deep throat. That was bad. Oh my God. That is not what I meant. That is...
00:28:17
Speaker
Of course Okay, I meant I meant a deep voiced. I don't know why you can't you can't go back for this this yeah That's toothpaste right there, buddy. It ain't going back in the tube. No, let's go deep throat continue So many words that want to come out of my mouth and get mad at me when I cuss all right anyway
00:28:40
Speaker
So after the booze-free kiss, the man on the phone told Walter that Louise needed to perform a sexual act. And so Walter made her give him oral sex. And everyone's okay with this. Apparently. Are you fracking? Donna has to be in on it. There is no way, as a 51-year-old woman, I am sitting there with my fiance with a naked 18-year-old watching onto me like, yeah, this is what the cops would do, 100%.
00:29:10
Speaker
earlier. Yeah, 100 percent. You know. So. Walter, you know, so she's been she's she's she's she's I said she was being violated earlier. She literally has been raped at this point. Yes. Against her will. I mean, pretty much everything that happened to her was rape. And my but now she's in my to put his nasty old willy in her mouth. Yeah. I hope she did it.
00:29:40
Speaker
No, I don't think she did. I would have. Yeah. Yeah. So. I'm not happy. As soon as he was like, you know, finished. What? Right. Hmm. He left. Because he was done. There was no one on the other line. It was him the whole time. Donna walks in, has no idea what had gone on. What? Apparently. And now another not hiring McDonald's. Oh, yeah.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah, there's no way they did not have to pay out a sizable sum to this poor little girl And if they didn't they are awful horrible people and no one should eat there ever again Not just because their food is you know mediocre at best swill well at most Anyway
00:30:34
Speaker
So, Donald walks in, has no idea what happened, and all of a sudden, another older man walks in. What is this, a frickin' zoo? He was apparently the custodian for the McDonald's. And he needed to be their wife. Well, he ended up on the phone with this officer, right? Oh, horse crap. Literally heard three words the man spoke.
00:31:00
Speaker
and said, you're full of shit. Good for you. And hung up on it. Thank you, custodian. The detective that was watching the video couldn't make sense of what he had just seen. He saw McDonald's porn. Yeah. This is just our opinion based off of Netflix movie. We do not have any money for McDonald's to sue us. Talking a lot about McDonald's. That's not that out there. That's probably not a bad idea now that I think about it.
00:31:28
Speaker
Netflix. You need to learn how to stop talking. No, I'm kidding. No, I'm sorry. This is that poor girl. Yeah. Like the custodian is the only adult there with any kind of intelligence. Yeah. Fracking kidding me. Yeah. Continue. Well, Faith, that was just one story.

Unveiling a Nationwide Scam

00:31:53
Speaker
The man on the phone had been doing this to fast food restaurants across the United States, and they all just went with it since 1994. There were 73 victims and no one put it together in 32 states. That's got to be like that. That's above crime because you've crossed state boundaries, right? You're you're basically a serial rapist that, you know, making it happen. But here's my question.
00:32:24
Speaker
Here's my question. If your best friend told you to jump off a bridge, would you? No, because I don't get in water. There's sharks and alligators. Right. That's the point of the entire hole. You got to watch it. You got to. I. How do you sit and have a. Oh, oh, I caught myself. Good job. I'm not going to discuss this.
00:32:52
Speaker
You have to watch it. I think my personal opinion, he made thousands of calls. Oh, yeah. Some people hung up on him immediately. And some people said, come on down. And he just never showed. Right. And then others were like.
00:33:14
Speaker
Yeah, I can do this. Yeah, I'll do it. I don't save this kid. Here's my thing. OK, I get that mentality like it's your employee. You know, this person is a good person. You know, they made a mistake. You want to get the money and get it back. But at what point do you not say this is horse crap and stuff like two hours search making her give you fellatio and you don't think, oh, maybe this probably isn't a cop. I will tell you that
00:33:44
Speaker
Donna got like a year in prison. Good. And what did Walter get? Because that's it. I'm kidding me. Yeah. Oh, Lisa and other victims. Luis, not Luisa. Luis, I couldn't remember. I was too angry. That story. Was only the first one told in this documentary.
00:34:12
Speaker
I literally like faith. I can't wrap my head around what I watched. OK. OK, so here's the deal. Like I don't I don't go around often and say, hey, you got to watch this. This is like that's not me. Like I just watch it. And then I'm like, language. Sorry. I'm like, oh, you know, it was it was good. It was, you know, you have to go. You have to watch this. Here's my thing. This went on for 10 years, right? 10 years. You're telling me.
00:34:42
Speaker
Because like, obviously, if these things happen and I mean, maybe Luis's case was extreme. Maybe other people hung up before, but they still you're telling no one reported this to corporate and and the head of the fast food chain didn't like send out a memo to all their people saying, hey, this is what's going on. This is what we don't do. Well, maybe just maybe. You should go home and watch the documentary.
00:35:12
Speaker
No, I'm very angry. Yeah. Are you going to give the name of the said documentary? That was going to be my last thought. OK. You haven't given any thoughts. Well, you're zipped up. Remember Deep Throat? Which is officially your new name is my co-host. Cool. Mm hmm.
00:35:34
Speaker
Yeah, I'm telling you I'm gonna come up with a name for your you're not gonna like I'm telling you there was an SVU episode just like this where they were like because they ended up like tying them up and leaving them making them like the closet or something like that
00:35:46
Speaker
No, this was not like that at all. But it was the same. It was the same situation where he'd call a fast food restaurant and he'd make people do all this stuff and end up like forcing the employees to do something. I'm telling you as an SU episode, like I honestly think that if we could have recorded an episode where we actually videoed ourselves, like you could see some of the faces that I make discussing it because like it's like the head cock sideways like a like a dog, you know, like.
00:36:17
Speaker
What? What? Yeah. OK, I'm not even kidding you. So the name of the documentary is Don't Pick Up the Book. You think?

Questioning Authority and its Importance

00:36:31
Speaker
Oh, man. They were color ID then. Yeah, but star 69 get you where you need to go. But no cop is going to star 69, you moron. Not you, Donna and others. OK, OK.
00:36:47
Speaker
You got to just you got to watch it. It's the weirdest. Most. Like awful. Terrifying. Thing I've ever watched, like, you know how like people use the phrase like a moth to a flame or a lamb to the slaughter. Yeah. Like you just do what you're told. That is all I can think about the entire time. Told you.
00:37:17
Speaker
SVU season 9 episode 17 called authority and I knew it Robin Williams was the bad guy. Oh Yeah, he ended up being loved him. I did love him. He was amazing It ended up being like a two-parter But it was a man accused of impersonating police officer over the telephone telling fast food managers sexually assault an employee is found not guilty and as a result becomes a vocal crusader telling other people to defy authority figures and he keeps talking about how people like
00:37:43
Speaker
The whole thing is his wife died. Yeah. Like I remember it now. His wife died because they listened to the doctors on treatment. And they know the one to one, the one that I remember was the one with Amy, the deaf girl. Mm hmm. I don't know if you remember this one, but not yet. She had like kidney failure. Right. Oh, yeah. She was the one going online telling people to like kill themselves. Yeah. The ride the train. Yeah. About train. Yeah. Something like that. Her much connected. Yeah.
00:38:11
Speaker
We have no lives. In case you guys all find out. Literally, I just look eyes with you and I was like, oh, we're losers. You're right. Most people really came in. We have each other. Remember that time we went to this great place? It's a great thing. We're like, you remember that SVU episode to to all that came in hot.
00:38:39
Speaker
Oh my God. No, I knew it. Yeah. It was Robin Williams. I remember that because it was, it ended up being a two-parter. They changed him into a sound studio, but yeah, that was the thing. He was, he was showing people that you listen to authority people like.
00:38:51
Speaker
Entrance like we don't question authority like right people if the cops tells us or whatever we just do it Did they ever talk but then logically no that's my that's my point there's so many times we're done I should have been like okay corporate tell me our policy
00:39:11
Speaker
Is it to strip a little girl? No. Should I call my fiance in to make her bounce on his lap and and and do perform oral sex? Yeah. No. Look, here's the deal. And again, I don't want to give my opinion on this because I feel like this would be a discussion better had by our viewers. Listeners, wrong word. Facebook, whatever you can hear
00:39:39
Speaker
all of my thoughts if you want to because watching this documentary literally literally i was like you know me i was i was standing i was sitting i was standing i was like really really like you're yelling at the phone dude i was dude i'm not even kidding all right again back to the whole no life thing okay true but no uh
00:40:09
Speaker
I can't like I really like want to. I just don't understand how in your brain you don't know that a cop is not going to tell you to spank a naked girl for two for 20 minutes. Like in your brain, what what part of this seems like a logical this is. You know, and that was kind of like another one of my WTF moments where I was like. Really?
00:40:37
Speaker
Really? Really. Apparently. So not only is this girl like naked, right? But you're a man now. It doesn't work for McDonald's. I guarantee that's against corporate policy. Yeah.
00:40:54
Speaker
But then you walk in, you take over this phone call that you're so and so fiance says. And why did she call him to come down and handle this? Well, apparently the guy on the phone said, is there a man in your life that you trust? Are you a frack it and that? Oh, OK. See, now I'm giving I'm giving too much away. I was trying to be very vague. I was trying to be vague, but no.
00:41:21
Speaker
Did they catch the guy that did all the phone calls? Obviously, they had to have to know that it happened. All these people across all this time. I'm going to need you to go watch the show. I'm going to remind you, we do a podcast. They don't come on here and watch Netflix. They do that in their own time unless they have life. But they say. We could spend an entire podcast. Live. Discussing with our fans.
00:41:52
Speaker
People that will listen. My mom. My mom. I can't. I can't say anything else because I just, you have to watch it because every single part and the end part of all of it. WTF. WTF. Faith. No, get off of Google. Get off, get off, get off. I'm not on Google. I'm going to IMBD.
00:42:22
Speaker
Get off. Open up the phone. Faith? Faith? Drop it.

Documentary Title Reveal and Theme

00:42:28
Speaker
Drop it. Well, I can't spell because I put Glock the phone. Bad, bad girl. Bad. Come on, pretty girl. Come here. Give me the phone. Give me the phone, mama. You're so cute. Don't ruin it for everybody. I'm not ruining it. Don't ruin it. I'm not. I'm literally just looking to see who the people are. That's it. I'm looking to see who's in the documentary.
00:42:54
Speaker
Don't pick up the phone, is it? Don't pick up the phone, the making of a caller. Mm-hmm. Okay, I'm just asking. They don't even give you any information. Nope, they don't. You gotta watch it. Thanks, IMBD. You stink. Like I said, I advocate for nothing. But this is a show worth watching. Only because there are so many sides
00:43:21
Speaker
And you just get left with your head. There are not so many sides. Spin it. Use your common freaking sense. Yes. You should listen to authorities, but a police officer is never going to tell you to spank a naked little girl. No. And then make her give you oral sex. No, that is not what police officers do. Not even close. So don't do that. But you got to watch it because you're going to get sucked into it tonight. And then you're going to call me at three o'clock in the morning and you're going to be like, what did you do to me?
00:43:48
Speaker
How is this happening? And really, really, really, that's that's all you can say. OK, there is if your friend would jump off a bridge, would you do it? This is like a whole nother level of stupid. Uh huh. It's it's it's what people are influenced by. That was the whole point of that question. Right. Like what influences you? What makes you tick? Like how far? How far are you? How far are you going to go?
00:44:15
Speaker
Yeah, before you wake up and are like, hey, maybe I should, you know, think for myself. Mm hmm. Yeah. Wow. You hate me. I told you you were going to hate me. Yeah, I also told you you're not going to like the podcast. I thought I thought I was going to hate you because it was like a horrible story of maim and, you know, that kind of thing. No, I didn't think it was going to be like infuriating because people are so stupid. Again.
00:44:43
Speaker
I cannot give an opinion and I want to so bad. If they've listened to you, they know your thoughts upon this. Oh, oh, I hope they do. I just want when you people go and you watch this stupid special, I want you to keep me in your mind. And just think my thoughts. What would Lisa think about what just happened here? Mine has to go to a dark, dark place to get my.
00:45:14
Speaker
It's not a good place and I advise our viewers not to do it. It's hummus and pairs of despair. You know, I was, I almost brought us up hummus earlier, but I was like, no, she costed me last time. I'm not going to bring up anything about hummus. And you brought up hummus. Well, I thought about you and I ate hummus in Florida. Ooh. It was delicious. I bet it was. Yeah. Not, not quite the lubricant you thought it'd be.
00:45:39
Speaker
No, no, no, no one besides you thinks that hummus is actually I've made fun of you several times to several people about that statement every time shocking every time I hate hummus. I tell the story of how you thought, you know, it was an oily treat, apparently. Oily treat. All right. That's that's that's my story. And it has left me angry. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not a satisfied customer. Yeah.
00:46:10
Speaker
And I'm going to have to punch you in the neck like I said earlier. Cool. Well. Don't come Netflix. I'm pretty sure I cannot run you. Maybe I am pretty sure at least three feet. I'm pretty sure that is not the case. You're probably right. I know. Yeah. You're four foot nothing. My legs are taller than you. I am five foot nothing. Give me my foot. Oh, my gosh. What? Stupid, stupid people.
00:46:40
Speaker
All right, I'm literally I'm telling you right now, if you do not go home and watch this show and text me, I'm going to kill you. I'm not doing it just so you will be unsatisfied and frustrated as I am right now. You can get as pissed off as you want, but I'm not kidding you. I literally sat watching the show with my mouth open like I would have a freaking mouth breather. OK, phone yelling.
00:47:08
Speaker
I can't, man. You guys. All right. No opinions from Lisa. Don't pick up the phone. But if you have Netflix, go watch that, watch it, if not YouTube. And then we really need to have a discussion about this at some point, because I'll post. I have so many thoughts on Facebook and Instagram. Yeah. Which are in the show notes. They're they're a little hyperlinks in the show notes where you can just go click, click and go view that.
00:47:39
Speaker
And if you would like to send Lisa hateful emails, tell them deep throat how much you just are displeased with her. Deep throat. Twisted tells true crime at Gmail. You know, that may be a good thing. Well, I'm just OK. Sorry. It's time to go. It's time to go. It's time to go. It's time to go. All right. Well.
00:48:00
Speaker
Yes, I'll see you guys all on Netflix here shortly. I mean, you better. I'm telling you, get on and watch this. And if you are not absolutely horrified by what you just saw. I'm horrified now. I don't need any like you. We can't just stop following the podcast. Like if you're not sitting here with your mouth open, like that's. Reality like that. I want to have down with Walter and Donna and be like,
00:48:30
Speaker
Are you really that stupid? No, I actually really think like you have to have like a maybe just like an ounce of pure perversion to even follow along with you think that not even really like OK.
00:48:47
Speaker
Donna was a dumbass. Clearly. Sorry. Words. Okay? But... Walter? Or you can- Why would you even walk in? He's a perv. I would've looked at her and been like, um... No! What do you mean there's a guy on the phone telling you to strip a girl- Hang up!
00:49:08
Speaker
Do you think? Oh, I gave an opinion. OK, so I'm done. I'm done. The only one there with any semblance of brain. Thank you, sir. Got to stop. I can't. I can't. All right. Well, I'm going to punch Lisa for all of us and I'll take it. We will. We're going to we're going to sign off now. I know you're all frustrated. I'm frustrated. Deep throat sucks. And
00:49:35
Speaker
Your deep throat. Really? Really? Of all the phrases that you can say. Of all the phrases. I didn't think that. Bye, guys. I hope you have a wonderful, wonderful week. Yes. And we will talk to you again next week. As long as Faith stops talking. That's not going to happen. It's my week next week. Not crap. See ya. Bye.