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News on Cronenberg and son, Tusk 2, Pearl, Barbarbian and more, plus we discuss The Watcher
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Introduction and Personal Catch-Up
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Welcome. For real. That picture was taken in this I love scary movies, like walk through like museum type thing. And that room was built like the room from Lost Boys that the guys hang out in.
00:00:29
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Well, it reminds me of, uh, you and my grandfather's old chair. Remember that blue chair that you always, anyway, let's rock. You were recording. Yep. All right. Welcome back to fright central. I'm doc. I'm back here again with kick. How's it going, bud? Bad. Um, very bad. Uh, things are like very, very bad in my life right now. Like there's some good shit, but there's like right now more horrible shit than there is good shit. How are you doing?
Mad Max Festival and Movie Line-Up
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Well, I'm doing pretty good. I mean, I'm going to this Mad Max festival this week. So yeah, that's awesome. You definitely have to talk a little bit about that. But yeah, so what's now?
00:01:10
Speaker
Uh, nothing really. I mean, uh, there's a bunch of new movies coming out that, uh, I sent you a list for, and, uh, I didn't realize how many, like, we've had such like kind of a lull over the summer.
Movie Re-releases and Avatar's Comeback
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Even the past like couple of weeks, they were like re-releasing movies that like have been out for like over, for over a year now. And even some old, like to try to fill in the content gap, sort of. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. They were re-released a bunch. So they just put Avatar back out in theaters again.
00:01:40
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even though because he has a new one coming out. I thought that was a new avatar. He has a new one coming out, but the one they just put out again is just a re-release, I guess, to get out and watch it. People are still going to see it, so I mean, I'll see the new one. I'm interested, but I'm not expecting it to be good. I enjoyed 3D.
00:01:58
Speaker
I had gotten so much guff for saying that I liked that movie, but the thing is, is like the story was sort of like intentionally supposed to be cheesy. But like it was in, I watched it in the 3d graphics. Like, you know what I mean? It was just like amazing visual experience in theaters. Like I didn't go to see it for the story.
00:02:21
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Yeah, like for the on Optanium, like, you know, he later said, like, yeah, the story was supposed to be like kind of cheese. It was part of like.
00:02:31
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the larger message I was trying to convey. But I just went to see it for the visual experience. And I would say Avatar was an experience I had never had before in any other movie in terms of the 3D visual elements. Yeah. Well, trying to watch it again on your regular TV in 2D is just not the same. It's just like, whatever. But seeing it in 3D is definitely
Netflix's 1899: Language and Style Discussion
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worth it.
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But our movies coming up, I mean, I just saw a bunch, but there's one in particular that's coming up that I thought you would be interested in. It's coming to Netflix November 17th is the TV series 1899 created by the guys who did The Dark. Yeah. So I thought you'd be excited about that. It's described as a genre bending historical mystery thriller. And now is it is going to be in German?
00:03:23
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I believe so. Okay. Well, it's the official, I haven't watched the trailer yet, but there is a trailer available. The official description says multinational immigrants traveling from the old continent to the new encounter a nightmarish riddle aboard a second ship, a drift on the open sea. So it's definitely, the poster is definitely giving me some, you know. Darkest.
Netflix Dubbing and Subtitles Experience
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Dark, dark, but I was going to say Bermuda Triangle. Yeah. With like a ship going into the to a triangle. So I was just curious as to whether or not they were going to have like an old German cast and shoot it in German or if they were going to, you know, do the thing where they just hire like British actors for the accent. So it has like the European feel or something like that, you know, whether or not it's going to be in German or in English.
00:04:17
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Yeah, it looks like it was shot in Germany, but look at the under IMDB anyway, it says language English. So interesting. Well, I just like I watched a full episode of some Netflix show, like just the first episode. I don't want to sidebar too much, but it was a German show called like How to Sell Drugs Online or something like that. But it defaulted to English overdubbing.
00:04:42
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And it was very good English overdubbing. And I didn't even know until the very end of the first episode where they did the credits. I was like, wait, I'm listening to it in an overdub. And then I went back and started watching it in German. And I didn't even realize for some reason Netflix defaulted.
00:05:03
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to the overdub version and I thought that was so now that's like something I want to watch out for because I don't ever like listening to shit dub unless really necessary so I mean luckily Netflix has been really good at uh doing overdubs and a lot of times they'll get the uh the actors oh it was very good
00:05:23
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Dubbing was very good, but like I don't want it to default. Oh, yeah, I would have a regular. You know what I'm saying? Like I wanted to. Yeah. The one thing Netflix isn't so great at is subtitles. Like I've noticed like watching some German shows, like very, very terribly inaccurate subtitles. Also in Spanish, like with Money Heist, I also noticed inaccurate subtitles. But like with the dubbing, yeah, it's been spot on. So with
00:05:50
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with 1899, you're saying that it says that language is going to be English. So yeah, again, I haven't watched the trailer, so I don't know if maybe the trailer is in English or maybe the trailer is in German. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, I'm I'm I'm interested just because it's by the guys from the dark. I don't care what language they play. Oh, yeah.
HBO Max's Scanners Series Excitement
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Yeah, I was just curious. Yeah, I was just curious. Like I wasn't saying like I wasn't going to watch it unless it was in German or anything. I was just curious as to whether or not
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But yeah, I'm definitely going to check that out regardless. Yeah. I'll give that at least a couple. Oh, excuse me. At least a couple episodes. Yeah. Uh, then the, uh, then there's another series coming to HBO max that I thought you'd be interested. It was just announced. It doesn't have a release date yet, but, uh, David, why does it have to be that I'd be interested in? Why can't it be just like that? You thought was interesting.
00:06:42
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No, it is something that I'm interested in. But it's also something you would be interested because I know there's a series like, you know, a supernatural prequel called the Winchester that's coming out. I'm breaking your ball. I'm breaking your ball, breaking your ball.
00:06:58
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raking my balls. Wait till you hear what it is. It's a scanners. HBO is going to do scanners. I've been talking about scanners for like the past couple of years. How I wanted to see them do like a remake of the movie, especially the guy's head exploding. Like how cool would that be with the special effects we have today? Yeah. How cool would that be as a series? Yeah. With Kernenburg involved. Kernenburg is involved as an executive producer.
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Yeah, you know, you're definitely going to want him involved in some way. Yeah, that's going to be sick, dude. I would aim for like one head explosion per episode. That would like that would pretty much be like my ideal thing. One head explosion per episode.
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I hope they use a lot of practical effects, though, for that explosion. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. If they. Yeah. I would see them doing like throwbacks to the original. Like, you know, I mean, like it'd be cool if they like mixed in like CGI to like.
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John Carpenter's the thing where they, you know, use like melting bubble gum and stuff like that to do some of the effects. Yeah, that that'd be awesome. You had brought a lot of attention to like me about like CGI being like mixed in with practical filmmaking. And like I never, you know, usually like they'll do all like, you know, dummy stuff or do all like CGI.
00:08:27
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and like to mix the two and make it like, you know, integrate it in a way that like looks really good and is like just like very engaging. Like I think that's like the best way to do things. Yeah. Because nobody wants to see just, well, I don't know kids today, maybe they do just want to see CGI, but that's not what I want. Yeah. And a lot of studios kind of forcing people to be quicker with CGI, the CGI itself has been a subpar.
00:08:55
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Yeah. CGI is, even though you would think it would be cheaper, like with the software and hardware that's now required, CGI is generally more expensive, right? Like considerably more expensive.
00:09:10
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Yeah, because you would think it would cost more money to buy all the shit you need to make just normal effects, like man-made generated effects, but with all the software and hardware that's required to generate realistic looking shit, it's actually more expensive to do the CGI, right?
00:09:35
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Yeah, probably. I mean, I haven't done the numbers on it, but I would assume. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the case. So yeah, a good mixture is awesome. So yeah, that's definitely, yes, you're correct. That's definitely something I'm going to want to check out. Yeah, so that's why I brought it up. I know. I was busting your balls. And speaking of Cronenberg, his son, Brandon, Brandon? Brandon? Brandon. Yeah.
Brandon Cronenberg's Infinity Pool
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Uh, he, you know, he did, uh, antiviral and a possessor. Uh, he's got a new, uh, sci-fi horror coming out called infinity pool with, uh, Mia goth from, uh, X and Pearl. And right now it has a NC 17 for some graphic violence and sexual content. Mia goth is fucking, uh,
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no stranger to, uh, controversial, like, you know, sexual, um, explicit. Well, I'm saying this based on her work in a nymphomaniac, but all that shit, that was all like either like CGI or like body double shit. But like a lot of people at the time did not know that because like a lot of the scenes were just like so buck wildly graphic. But like, anyway, not to sidetrack, but, um,
00:10:51
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her being in it, I'm fucking sold. I think she's so fucking hot right now. And I don't mean like, in the sense that like, she's just a beautiful woman. But like, she's just been all over the place. Yeah, been doing a couple like I've been, you know, I saw her in the horror and then she's in. She was in another like, she was in some French movie last year that I was just checking out on.
00:11:16
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Yeah, she's all over the place. So, yeah, I mean, she's fucking hot right now. Yeah, well, Infinity Pole is described as a young couple are rich in love and on vacation. They're all exclusive resort boats, both island tours and gleaming beaches. But outside the hotel gates, wait something much more dangerous and stuck to beyond the edge of paradise.
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So, yeah, I'm I'm excited for that. I mean, he's done some good stuff so far that I've liked. So what now you're talking about Cronenberg's son, right? Yeah, Brandon. Now, what else? What else has he done that? I would know a possessor other than what you just mentioned. I'd recommend it that I think he's only done those two right now. We're in our own possessor. So he's pretty. And this is this is a series he's doing or a movie movie. OK, yeah.
00:12:10
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I just was going from Cronenberg to Cronenberg. I was just going from Cronenberg to Cronenberg, you know. Yeah, you're doing double Cronenberg. I wasn't sure. I have not seen Possessor or I'm sorry, what was the other one? Antiviral. I haven't seen either. They're both worth checking out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:36
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So he's living up to daddy's expectations. Yeah, as I say, he's definitely going down that kind of route. Probably not as much body horror, but yeah, there is still body horror in it, especially like I would say antiviral. Yeah, there's some success or two. I mean, it's literally about like taking over somebody else's body and using them as like a hit man. It's like a sci-fi.
00:13:02
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Yeah, I mean, I would just think there'd be like a lot of the pressure being like Cronenberg's son. Like if you're going to like work in film like your father, you need to do that shit really well, or you need to like become a lawyer or something like totally like, you know, a totally different profession. Like I would just see there to be like, you know, so much like pressure on you like Tom Hanks's son or something like that. Yeah.
00:13:29
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Uh, then I'm going from, uh, I'm going from Mia Golf into Mia Golf, uh, for, uh, the next, uh, film series in the X
Maxine: A Sequel Journey to Hollywood
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franchise, because now it's a franchise. It's now a franchise. So it's official that they're doing a sequel to X. Yeah. It's going to be set in 1985. It's called Maxine with three X's in the middle.
00:13:53
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So yeah, I believe it's her going to Hollywood. Yeah, it's going to be her journey towards fame setting out to make it as an actor. I wonder if it's going to be like her like it's going to take place directly after the events. No, it seems some years later because it was like seventy nine. Right. Was the X. Yeah, I'm not sure. I think it was the late seventy, seventy eight, seventy. I think it was seventy nine. Yeah. It's going to be a good like five or six years later.
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Yeah, I was just joking around about at the end of X where she like drove away, like not really thinking it was a big deal that everyone was dead except her. And like, you know, obviously, you know, there was going to be questions about all the murdering and shit. And she seemed like kind of like lax today. Is it cool about the whole thing? I just think it'd be funny if she was just driving up and like the pickup truck.
00:14:47
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like, stops at a rest stop, cleans the blood off of her, and just goes about her life like nothing ever happened. She goes from there directly to a porn shoot. Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah, she's just like, hey, I'm here to audition, like, my fiancรฉ had, like, hauled ahead. Oh, yeah, well, where is he? Uh, he can't make it, because, you know, he's dead.
00:15:13
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And like, you know, I also just got back from doing killing myself. Yeah. So anyway, this old lady that killed my. Yeah, I ran her head over. Yeah. Yeah. She looks exactly like me when I was younger. I mean, well, you know what?
00:15:29
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I was criticizing the movie for making it so ridiculous at the end, but the sequel, Maxine, might explain that whole thing because she was a drug addict and she had some problems, so they'll probably go back to her past.
00:15:48
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probably explain what she did after the murders and all the horrific violence and alligator eating with some shit like that. Yeah, there was a little teaser at the end of Pearl that it just had the- Oh, really? It floated, the camera floated over. It looked like the Hollywood sign, but it said Maxine, and then it was just 80s music playing in the background.
00:16:11
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Oh, cool. So, yeah. Wow. But it's that's not like Pearl where he already shot it, but like it's going to be coming out probably next year, I would say. It's just you want to talk about something taking off. I mean, X was filmed in, what, 2021 and then came out in 2022.
00:16:29
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I think so because he wrote because it was during the pandemic that he like wrote. Yeah. While he was waiting for the two weeks quarantine, he wrote a Pearl. And so then they filmed. Yeah. And that's when they started like collaborating together. Yeah. And so it was he pitched Pearl to me and she was just like, yes, right away. Right.
00:16:50
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Yeah. Or was it like the other way around? Like they both kind of were thinking. Yeah. Well, I wasn't sure. They already had, like they were already about the shoot X and he was in the two week quarantine before they can go shoot that. And in that time he wrote referral. Yeah. And she was just like, yes, like right away. Yeah.
00:17:07
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And but so yeah, so he then pitched to her, she was like, yes, right away. And now, you know, they did the prequel to X, and now they're doing a sequel to X. And that all happened like within like, the span of like, what, like,
00:17:24
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14 months or something like that. Yeah, that's pretty. Yeah, that's just it's crazy to see two movies from the same franchise come out in the end in the year. You know, I mean, like came out April and this one just came out in September. Like, yeah, I mean, that's just normally they'd like wait a year or like, oh, and like April or something, or the other one, they're like, no, we're really, well, yes, especially with Pearl, when you told me it was already in theaters, I was just like,
00:17:51
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Damn, that was quick. I get that they started doing it. But like you were saying, you would think that they would space things out to maximize profits. It's just like, nah, we're trying to just shit this out. We want this out. I think that's fucking awesome.
Teaser for Maxine and Fast Franchise Turnaround
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And this is all in the A24 production company. Yeah. Yeah, when I went and saw Pearl,
00:18:17
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this past weekend. And it was funny because as I was leaving, I was like, oh, let me see if there's a post credit. And it was like, oh, there's a trailer for Maxine in it. So I was like, all right, I threw my trash out and kind of stood by the exit. And like, mostly like a couple other people, there was only maybe like 10 or 15 people in the movie theater. But like, as like these two girls were walking out, I was like, hey, there's like a post credit teaser for the next film.
00:18:39
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And they were like, the next film. And I was like, yeah, I was like, this one's a prequel to X and they had never even heard of X. So I like add that to them. Yeah. So like they came in seeing this, not knowing about X at all. So you're like, yo, you want to like come back to my place and like, you know, watch, watch your movie about porn. That would be a really
00:19:08
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I'm sorry couldn't help it that'd be like a really creepy way like a really creepy pickup lamp like oh you didn't know that like this is a prequel to act like you want to come back to my house and watch
00:19:20
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What's funny is like you say that in the movie Pearl she meets this theater like projectionist and like she... I saw that in the trailer and he's like... Yeah, well that's what made me think of it because you know I haven't seen Pearl yet but like I saw in the trailer like you know him like saying like hey
00:19:45
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come back here like let me show you this other movie because I'm assuming that like she wasn't able to make it the mainstream and like you know uh that's the direction that they were going and so that just kind of made me think like when you were saying like to those girls like hey yeah
00:20:05
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The movie doesn't quite go in that direction. I'm not going to spoil it, but Mia Gough is fucking great. She has like this eight minute monologue in the movie. And it's just like the camera is just on her face nonstop, like straight eight minutes for her doing this fucking monologue. You can go on YouTube. And if you go on YouTube and you type in like Mia Gough casting reads and stuff like that, you can see her reading for several parts.
00:20:31
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And, you know, like when I said she's so hot right now, like, bro, like she is just an immensely talented actress. And the only thing that I had really seen her in until recently X was nymphomaniac. And I think she was only in nymphomaniac part two. So I had not really seen much of I think there was one other thing I had seen her into, but like I didn't recognize her, but like,
00:21:00
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Yeah, she is just fucking taking off right now, and I think it's awesome. Very, very versatile actress. So, yeah, it definitely it definitely makes me want to go back and rewatch Ty West's two previous movies, The House of the Devil and The Innkeepers, because I remember seeing them, but I remember them being a little bit slower in pace. I didn't see I didn't see a house, but I did see The Innkeepers. I don't remember very much of it.
00:21:31
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Well, I feel like I remember the liking it, but I feel like I remember only like the last like 10 minutes something happened in it.
00:21:39
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you know what it was them being innkeepers but i like it's been so long and i was like well i guess it is what it's called but like yeah i don't remember much else about either one of those and i now now now that i think i also might be mistaking it with something else as well so i'm not even sure but anyway i mean we should probably like stop talking about something that we barely remember
Barbarian's Brief Mention and Humor
00:22:02
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Yeah. Oh yeah, it makes me well as I liked, since I liked X and Pearl I want to go back and rewatch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Give them another look. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, and then, yeah, then I also saw a barbarian.
00:22:19
Speaker
which has just came out. It's got a Bill Skarsgar, and he played Pennywise. Yeah, I know who he is. And Justin Long is in it. And when I saw this one in theater, it's about a woman staying at an Airbnb in like Detroit, and she just discovers that the house she rented is not what it seems.
00:22:41
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uh but uh i don't want to spoil too much about it but Justin Long was fucking hilarious when he comes into this he's like he is a very funny guy yeah he's like trying to sell the house and like every time he like goes into like he's like measuring how much like room he has and he discovers like the secret room he's like more pumped about like how much extra space he has to sell it then then like look around and see
00:23:05
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Like the movie is about a bunch of dumb characters doing really dumb shit, you know, and getting themselves fucking trouble. And like, but it had like a couple of good moments. Like it had, Justin Long was funny in it. And then it has some good moments that to the end with that I thought were funny too. Whether they were intentional or not, I don't know. But also there was like this lady that was sitting like down the row for me who was getting like visibly uncomfortable every time, not visibly uncomfortable, but visibly upset.
00:23:33
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Every time one of the characters would do something real dumb, she used to be like, oh, oh, my God. And she would be like, but not like that. Oh, I know. I know. Exactly. I know exactly. You could just hear her moving in the seat like she didn't say anything out loud, but she could hear her moving in the seat and like, you know, almost doing like knee slaps and stuff like that. And like, I was laughing because I thought it was so funny.
00:23:57
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that she was getting upset about characters doing dumb shit like she's never watched a horror movie before where characters do dumb shit she's like oh why you gotta do that basement why you gotta oh this is
Anticipation for Tusk Sequel by Kevin Smith
00:24:08
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so like but she wasn't saying it out loud i thought it was funny yeah it kind of you know yeah i often enjoy my experience better but then just something real funny at the end that i thought was
00:24:19
Speaker
Yeah, I've seen like a few. I mean, I don't know that I can really point out. Well, all right. Jeepers Creepers Justin Long wasn't supposed to be a comic in it, but like he was funny. Like I cannot take Justin Long to do anything other than even when he's not doing comedy. Like I just think it's fun and toss it into the wall.
00:24:45
Speaker
I heard that Smith wants to do a Tusk too. Yeah. Wait, they're doing the Tusk part too? Yeah, that's Kevin Smith announced he wants to do a part too. Wow. You just dropped that on me. You're creeping on that. Did you know that you're... Oh, okay. Yeah. Now you want to talk about something I'm going to be interested in. That would be it. And I hope they bring back Johnny Depp.
00:25:09
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Yeah, that would be awesome because like minor didn't like minor was like arguing with me that Johnny Depp was even in the movie and was trying to tell me it was some other guy I'm like, dude, I know all about tusk. I've seen it multiple times. Trust me, Johnny Depp is not only in it. He's a main character and like my went back and check that he was like,
00:25:31
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Holy shit, like I had no idea like he wears a prosthetic nose with a dick on it. He pitched that to Kevin Smith and he was like, yeah, do it. Yeah, I mean, it was really I mean, Tusk is a really, really bizarre fucked up move. Yeah. But like it's fucking awesome. And now that they're doing the part to like, wow, I am in booze that has just like raised my mood significantly. Yeah. Awesome.
00:26:01
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uh and then I went home after I did the double feature and I watched uh The Watcher and Glorious. Glorious we'll talk about on our next cast but uh yeah I want to talk about The Watcher though because this is something we've both seen. I had actually recommended this to you before I'd even seen it because I heard good things about it and I was like hey we should talk about it.
The Watcher: Navigating Multiple Titles
00:26:21
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I don't have like a bunch of stuff to say about The Watcher. One thing I wanted to say before we discussed it at all is that I was very confused because there's so many movies called The Watcher. Yeah and the new TV series coming up called The Watcher. And the new TV series called The Watcher that is also 2022 that I believe
00:26:43
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is coming out on October the 13th on Netflix. And I believe all the watchers are all in the horror genre, too. Yeah, so it can be like, yeah, there was one reason 2000.
00:26:58
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There was a 2020 watcher. There's now 2022 to watcher and the 2022 watcher series. And there's probably, I believe there's also movies or at least one other movie that's just called watcher and not the watcher. So, uh, if you want to see the movie we're talking about, make sure you go and check out, uh, 2022 the watcher it's a movie and it's shot in Romania or, you know, it,
00:27:27
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It has a lot of, like, Romanian shit going on. Yeah, it is. Just make sure you know. Thanks for my sayin' Boudicrest, yeah. Yeah. What was your impression of the move? I actually, I actually enjoyed this. I liked the different take on it. Well, the watcher's about a young American woman who moves to her husband to Boudicrest and begins to suspect that a stranger who watches her from the apartment building across the street may be a local serial killer decapitating women.
00:27:52
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And it doesn't have anybody in it that I recognized. Spoiler, she was right the whole time. Yeah. The end. Yeah. But I did like the, yeah, I did like the setup of like, you know, maybe she's just wrong and maybe she, and then she kind of becomes the stalker. She's the watcher. And I thought that was an interesting way to go. I was, I was picking that vibe up too. I thought like, Oh, you know, this is going to be like very clever. Like I get it.
00:28:22
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Or, you know, maybe she was just going to like go insane and end up killing her husband or something like that. And she'd be arrested and like, yeah. Yeah. She was like, or, you know, she was starting to become like very paranoid and maybe she had some kind of like underlying mental illness.
The Watcher Movie's Plot and Ending
00:28:40
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And it turns out that she was actually killing these people. She was a killer. Yeah. That she did not realize that.
00:28:48
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Yeah, that she was like going out and she was doing these terrible things. And she was projecting it as like, you know, someone else was doing them. And she was just like extremely like mentally psychopath. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it'd be kind of like Shutter Island in a way or. Yeah.
00:29:11
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Yes, similar to Sutter Island. But yeah, something like that. That's what I was thinking, like, all right, here it comes. This is going to be like the ending twist. And it turned out to be like, yeah, she was just right about every single thing the entire time.
00:29:26
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The guy she suspected was the killer, was the killer the entire time. Like nobody believed her. I still thought it was still well set up even though it still came out that he was the killer. I still hope the setup was still really well done. So it kept you kind of guessing whether she was right or not because no one believed her. Then the guy even calls like the cops on her and was like yeah this chick keeps running.
00:29:49
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And even in my head, I'm like, yeah, maybe like she's just real paranoid and shit because like, well, that's the thing where he called the cops. Yeah. Yeah. Because like when he called the cops on her, it was like, you know, reinforcing what I think we were both thinking in our heads was going to be the outcome.
00:30:06
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't necessarily going like she was the killer the whole time. It was just like she was a little paranoid the whole time. And I was thinking that it was the killer. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking that was going to be the thing and that she was actually stalking these people out. I thought it was going to be like some reverse psychology type stuff. But I would say this, I thought that the movie, well, it was a rather short
00:30:35
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I believe the run time was under 90 minutes. I think it was an hour and 17 minutes total. I think it was. It's an hour and 31 with credits. Well, anyway, it was a relatively short movie compared to today's standards. It was a very slow moving throughout the entire thing up until maybe the last eight
00:31:00
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eight, maybe nine minutes. It was extremely slow paced. I did find it quite dull. However, I want to say the caliber of the acting was very good. Like there was like genuine like suspense. There was tension like, you know, for the main character,
00:31:29
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put Julia played by Mika Monroe. I believe yeah, I don't know how you say it either. Yeah. My name is Burn Gorman. Yeah, well, I didn't. Oh, I knew I've seen Burn Gorman in like a lot of other stuff. Yeah, he was a watcher.
00:31:51
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Yeah, well, yeah, but he was he was in like a lot of TV series that I've seen. He's been in several other films I've seen. He's an English actor. I've known him like I've I've seen him in a lot of other things. So I knew he wasn't like Romanian and didn't speak Romanian. So I was just like I was wondering if like he had like a Romanian background I wasn't aware of and he was going to start speaking Romanian because I know he was like born in England.
00:32:20
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everything I've seen him in, he's pretty much had an English or faking an American accent. He's actually born in Hollywood. Oh, he was born in Hollywood? Yeah. What the fuck did I hear? Yeah. Well, I've seen him do the English accent fairly fucking well, because I've seen him in tons of movies that were all set in England. In a TV show, he played a British officer
00:32:45
Speaker
during the American revolution. He was born in the US, but he had to British parents and spent most of his years growing up in the UK. So he was British. He just happened to be born. I wasn't trying to like get down to like, you know, where he was born and where he was a citizen. I'm just saying he's basically an English actor.
00:33:05
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which I've seen him in like a lot of stuff before, but I don't I did not recognize Miss Monroe before. I don't think I've seen her in. She has a familiar face, but I can't think of anything else I'd seen her in. She was fantastic. You know, the caliber of the acting was great. I just thought the story was kind of weak. Like I felt bored throughout the movie.
00:33:33
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I wasn't that bored. I mean, it was a little slower paced, but yeah, I do agree. If it wasn't for her performance, it could have been dull. It could have been a little bit more if she was, if she was, if she was terrible at it. I thought all the acting was good. It was just, I'm just giving my honest opinion. I thought the movie was slow paced and very dull at times. Like I felt myself bored, but I was still engaged because.
00:33:59
Speaker
I was interested to see where they were going to take the story. I thought they were going to go in a very different direction, like I was saying, and being like a very linear and very simple plot, like everything like you thought was going to happen happened, you know, went down exactly the way she
00:34:21
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said it was going to go down, that he was the killer. And apparently, let's just talk about one scene, the subway scene, I liked very much. Oh, the scene where, like, which one, the one where he comes up and, like, talks. Towards the end, towards the end of the movie, she's on a subway. They had already spoken before. Well, I don't know if they even spoke before when the police officer brought her. Yeah.
00:34:50
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I believe they were pretty much silent. They shook hands. And that was all there was to it. And I believe he leaves. He has up until that point, he has no dialogue. No, I think he had dialogue at the when the cops showed up, he had talked a little. I don't think she was she was just kind of in shock. Like, I don't think I'll remember her talking.
00:35:12
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I didn't think I heard him speak, but you could be very right. I just remember them shaking hands. I could be wrong about that. But the first time they had any meaningful discourse was in the subway scene. And I thought that was done really well. And he was like trying to explain himself to her. And I thought like this was going to turn out like maybe they even became like weird friends or something like that. And then they would end up like
00:35:42
Speaker
working together to confront the killer like maybe he would like come to her aid or something like that. Like the killer was her boyfriend or husband the whole time. Yeah. Bro, I was looking for a twist. That's where I was going for. This movie was not going to be the linear simple plot that was laid out where she was right the entire time.
00:36:02
Speaker
the watcher was the killer, it was the dude, like, you know, generally it doesn't go that way. So I was looking for the thing that was going to get me and I was going to be like, Oh, that was fucking clever. It was just for me, it was just a very dull linear story that like, you know, I thought could have been done a lot better. But, um,
00:36:22
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like i said the caliber of the acting did keep me engaged i love the subway scene and the fact that the woman's head was apparently in that bag like because you think i thought like they were going to like show that it was like his lunch or something at the end but like nah
00:36:40
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he had gone to her neighbor's house and decapitated her only friend. Yeah, when he talks about like hiding in the closet. Yeah, he was like hiding in the closet and they do like kind of like a little foreshadowing thing like her looking at the closet and you think like, oh, are they going to check? Well, they didn't check. He was hiding in the closet with the head. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:06
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Yeah, it was funny because like it like when I was watching it was like, like, yeah, they live close to each other. So like, obviously, they would run into each other, like on the subway, because they'd both be going to the same stop, or like they could their husband tried to rationalize. Yeah, like in the neighborhood, like run into them in different places, like, in the first place he, she runs into him was like at the movie theater, where he sits right behind her and like,
00:37:32
Speaker
Like leans in and like smells or breeze on her or whatever. I thought that was like it funny and then like yeah, that's As you can get I was like, oh maybe he just fell asleep in the theater like, you know Yeah, well then he sees him as she sees him at the supermarket and they're like like no you're watching him like of course he's gonna be looking at like yeah, somebody just knocked over a bunch of shit and then ran away like of course he would go over there and be like what the fuck like I
00:37:58
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Yeah, I thought it was built. There's a lot of ways they could have taken it. In the end, I guess there's a lot of different directions that they could have gone in. Um, overall, I would say if I, you know, if I would recommend checking it out, but like, if you're expecting like a fast paced thriller where, you know,
00:38:18
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it gets like into like intense like psychological therapy you're gonna be disappointed yeah it was good acting it's definitely worth the watch but um that's about all i really have to say now
00:38:31
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Yeah, I did like the the end scene where like his husband realizes I like that she's now missing is like, oh, shit, I've been a real dick this whole time. And I might not listen to my wife. I just thought that was funny. That's like that. He was like, oh, fuck, I probably should listen to my wife. But it feels like a real day. I saw that her suitcase was that I thought like I thought the guy had murdered her and it was going to end or the guy gets away.
00:38:57
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And it looked like she just went back to New York or whatever, but that was not the case. And she ended up killing him. I don't know whether it looks like she was going to survive her wounds, but the final sequence was really awesome. I enjoyed the last five minutes, but I thought it was overall kind of dull.
00:39:18
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But definitely worth a watch. I would definitely recommend it. And that was the Watcher. Yes. And so that's about it. That's all the time we have. Thanks for joining me. And yeah. Yeah. It's good seeing you, buddy. And we will be talking about Glorious next time. All right. Thanks. Bye.